Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter balanced output?

2010-03-30 Thread Ron Olsen

I use a Parasound Halo A23 amp (http://www.parasound.com/halo/a23.php)
with balanced inputs, auto on/off, with my Transporter to drive Sonus
Faber Cremona Auditor speakers.  Fabulous sound to my ears. 

For more power, check out the Halo 21 amp:
http://www.parasound.com/halo/a21.php

Great bang for the buck.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] transporter balanced output?

2010-03-30 Thread Ron Olsen

I use a Parasound Halo A23 amp (http://www.parasound.com/halo/a23.php)
with balanced inputs, auto on/off, with my Transporter to drive Sonus
Faber Cremona Auditor speakers.  Fabulous sound to my ears. 

For more power, check out the Halo 21 amp:
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Great bang for the buck.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Themis

:)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Phil Leigh

pfarrell;529218 Wrote: 
> Phil Leigh wrote:
> > tcutting;529198 Wrote: 
> >> So, do you know the difference between "Hardware" and "Software"?
> > 
> > ???
> 
> I see this as a perfectly valid question. These days, a lot of 
> "hardware" is really defined by "software" and so the ancient 
> distinctions are vague and occasionally meaningless.
> 
> I expect that in time, there will be very little "hardware" differences
> 
> in even high end audio equipment.
> 
> -- 
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> http://www.pfarrell.com/

No I get that - FPGA's changed everything. But there's a big difference
between DSP within audio gear and large-scale commercial Enterprise
computing...(as I'm sure you know)

...and yes I am 100% comfortable that I understand the difference
between hardware and software!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Pat Farrell
Phil Leigh wrote:
> tcutting;529198 Wrote: 
>> So, do you know the difference between "Hardware" and "Software"?
> 
> ???

I see this as a perfectly valid question. These days, a lot of 
"hardware" is really defined by "software" and so the ancient 
distinctions are vague and occasionally meaningless.

I expect that in time, there will be very little "hardware" differences 
in even high end audio equipment.

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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Phil Leigh

tcutting;529198 Wrote: 
> So, do you know the difference between "Hardware" and "Software"?

???


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread tcutting

So, do you know the difference between "Hardware" and "Software"?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Display Problem

2010-03-30 Thread ModMike

Does anyone know how to reach Sean Adams? He used to accept PMs here
(long time ago) and I see he still posts/checks in periodically. I
figured he could settle the "hardware or server" issue pretty
definitively and quickly.

Thanks everyone,
M


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Display Problem

2010-03-30 Thread ModMike

I'm not sure he set it up correctly. It does seem to work initially,
plays music and display looks OK, and then it glitches out. He sent me
the image that is in the link in the above post. I suspect a server
problem of some kind (having owned several SBs and a TP for 4+ years, I
know what kinds of things go wrong). The devices themselves don't do
much that can break, as I understand it. Any issues I experienced were
always related to server probs.

I am using an older version of Squeeze Center, (because newer ones
caused probs on my network). He seems convinced that "the device" is
the problem, and I am not at all convinced of that -- quite the
opposite.

M


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Display Problem

2010-03-30 Thread iPhone

ModMike;529184 Wrote: 
> Thanks for the help here.
> 
> The new buyer reports the remote isn't working, the unit doesn't
> respond to it. Would that make the Xilinx reset basically impossible to
> do?
> 
> M

Mike, do you trust this guy you sold the Transporter? That is my first
question, could he be trying to scam you? Has he sent you a picture of
the display? Are you sure he has his server and the TP setup properly?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume-control digital input

2010-03-30 Thread Fxdwg123

cliveb;529164 Wrote: 
> I've never tried it myself, but I believe that the digital inputs on the
> TP are only so it can be used as a DAC. AFAIK there is no "pass though"
> from digital inputs to digital outputs.
> 
> It's a pity, it would have been a great solution. Now I have to
> rethink.
> 
> 
> I can definitely confirm that the TP's volume control does work on its
> digital inputs, when you are using it as a DAC (ie. external source ->
> TP -> analogue output -> amp).

In this case perhaps the solution could be not to use my external dac
for the cd-transport but to use the Transporter DAC and connect the
Transporter also via RCA analogue to my poweramp. I still can use my
external dac for streaming as that dac is connected to my power-amp
with XLR. In that way I can use the Transporter volumecontrol for all
sources and only need to switch the power-amp (there are switches on
the back) from XLR to RCA when I want to listen to a cd (what does
happen often). I'll give this a try. Thanks!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Display Problem

2010-03-30 Thread ModMike

Thanks for the help here.

The new buyer reports the remote isn't working, the unit doesn't
respond to it. Would that make the Xilinx reset basically impossible to
do?

M


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Phil Leigh

Themis;529176 Wrote: 
> Well, then, we must agree, I guess. :)

Yes... it gets written very, very slowly :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume-control digital input

2010-03-30 Thread Fxdwg123

Phil Leigh;529150 Wrote: 
> Not answering your question, but on a safety note you need to have some
> analogue attenuators between DAC and power amp (unless your dac or
> power amp has an analogue gain/level control) or you are risking
> potential destruction of your speakers and amp.

Thanks Phil...is also my worry, therefore I doublecheck before I switch
on my poweramp that the volume of the Transporter is on a low llevel.
But for the long run that is no solution as there will be a moment that
check will be forgotten. So your suggestion will be followed up.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Themis

Well, then, we must agree, I guess. :)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume-control digital input

2010-03-30 Thread cliveb

Fxdwg123;529129 Wrote: 
> Can anyone tell me if the digital in does go to the digital out or only
> out via the internal DAC?
I've never tried it myself, but I believe that the digital inputs on
the TP are only so it can be used as a DAC. AFAIK there is no "pass
though" from digital inputs to digital outputs.

Fxdwg123;529129 Wrote: 
> Does the volumecontrol of the Transporter also works for the digital
> inputs, or does it only works for the analogue output?
I can definitely confirm that the TP's volume control does work on its
digital inputs, when you are using it as a DAC (ie. external source ->
TP -> analogue output -> amp).


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter Display Problem

2010-03-30 Thread Phil Leigh

* Disconnect the power
* Press and hold "1" on the remote
* Reconnect the power
* Release the "1" button when you see "Programming xilinx" on the
screen


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume-control digital input

2010-03-30 Thread Phil Leigh

Fxdwg123;529129 Wrote: 
> My Transporter is via AES/EBU connected to an external DAC which is
> connected directly to my power-amp. Eliminating in this way my pre-amp
> gives the best result. Volume control I do with the volumecontrol of
> the Transporter, which works fine for me.
> 
> I want to connect my CD-transport also, so I have made a digital coax
> (RCA) connection between the CD-transport and the Transporter. After
> choosing RCA coax digital input on the Transporter I do not hear
> anything, no music.
> 
> Can anyone tell me if the digital in does go to the digital out or only
> out via the internal DAC? Does the volumecontrol of the Transporter also
> works for the digital inputs, or does it only works for the analogue
> output? If it has to work with the digital inputs, what do I do wrong?
> 
> Many thanks!!

Not answering your question, but on a safety note you need to have some
analogue attenuators between DAC and power amp (unless your dac or power
amp has an analogue gain/level control) or you are risking potential
destruction of your speakers and amp.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Themis

Phil Leigh;529034 Wrote: 
> Well, actually my experience is that it can be much cheaper AND
> faster-to-market to buy a new £1m server that is ten times quicker than
> it is to hire a bunch of highly expensive gurus to pour over
> already-optimised code to get maybe 50-100% performance increase after
> massive testing... and then 6 months later buy the hardware anyway...
> ymmv :-)
Bad idea. It costs less. Code is rarely optimized, you would be scared
if you knew how it is made and tested... (not talking about the
Transporter, here).

Experts are no "gurus", just normal/good professionals. The bunch of us
is simply heavily under-qualified, crushed by the abnormally high
project-management costs. ;)


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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Transporter volume-control digital input

2010-03-30 Thread Fxdwg123

My Transporter is via AES/EBU connected to an external DAC which is
connected directly to my power-amp. Eliminating in this way my pre-amp
gives the best result. Volume control I do with the volumecontrol of
the Transporter, which works fine for me.

I want to connect my CD-transport also, so I have made a digital coax
(RCA) connection between the CD-transport and the Transporter. After
choosing RCA coax digital input on the Transporter I do not hear
anything, no music.

Can anyone tell me if the digital in does go to the digital out or only
out via the internal DAC? Does the volumecontrol of the Transporter also
works for the digital inputs, or does it only works for the analogue
output? If it has to work with the digital inputs, what do I do wrong?

Many thanks!!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread michael123

paulduggan;529118 Wrote: 
> I don't understand the relevance of the link. It seems to be advertising
> material for a device that adds distortion to a signal. If you want to
> do that then surely there are cheaper and easier ways than buying a
> high fidelity device and then hacking it?
> 
> Which distortion are you talking about? Do you know of one which
> doesn't detract from the accuracy of the source?

Did you read it?
It is about common goals in audio design of amplification
If you have further questions, please post them on DIYAudio


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread paulduggan

I don't understand the relevance of the link. It seems to be advertising
material for a device that adds distortion to a signal. If you want to
do that then surely there are cheaper and easier ways than buying a
high fidelity device and then hacking it?

Which distortion are you talking about? Do you know of one which
doesn't detract from the accuracy of the source?


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread michael123

paulduggan;529089 Wrote: 
> That sounds like -more- distortion.

which one? ;-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread paulduggan

michael123;529085 Wrote: 
> ...I think that higher-order harmonics's amplitude decreased.

That sounds like -more- distortion.


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread michael123

Phil Leigh;528853 Wrote: 
> Well, no need really - a lot (probably most) of the music we listen to
> has already passed through several 5532/4 opamps (or worse - much
> worse) with power supplies you and I wouldn't allow in the house, so
> there is no going back from there. Messing around with the opamps in
> the TP will make it sound different for sure, but absolutely better
> (more accurate)? Categorically not. Just "better" for you - which is
> fine. DAC output stages are like cartridges - pick one to suit your own
> taste.

I agree that as far as it comes to music, this kind of experience is
very subjective. Yet, there are at least five people I know that liked
the sound..

Objectively speaking though, these op-amps I am talking about are
*discrete*, not SMD. The benefits are much less inter-modulated
distortion (?? I believe this is the coined term..). That's like
comparing Class AB and Class A amplifiers. Also, since the sound became
"warmer" (and respectfully, less analytic and metallic), I think that
higher-order harmonics's amplitude decreased. [ We do not have 10K$
Audio Precision so we could not measure, although I very wanted to.. ]

We did not modify topology, did not touch the digital interface, which
is in our opinion - excellently built.

The guy who soldered this for me is professional, he has 20 years of
experience in electronics (high-tech) and now he builds and sells
various kind of equipment, such as speakers, digital amplifiers, power
supplies etc.
Modders and DIY-ers are not something bad.. This is by far the best
"bang for the buck", if you know what you're doing..


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread michael123

Themis;528895 Wrote: 
> Well, I don't know which is michael123's job, but he's right on software
> performance. Optimizations are not indefinite, of course, but you can
> divide useful (externally observed) response time by 20 to 50 most of
> the time. ;)

Thanks!
BTW, I spent almost a month with my team two years ago in Montpellier
in IBM Labs, benchmarking and optimizing our system for Power6

Really great place!


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Phil Leigh

Themis;529023 Wrote: 
> Thanks Robin.
> 
> 
> Yes, you have to upgrade the hardware, eventually. But, problem is, you
> upgrade it for adding another software, rarely for making existing
> applications faster (except if you lack software experts to do so, or
> you are advised by hardware makers...). ;)

Well, actually my experience is that it can be much cheaper AND faster
to buy a new £1m server that is ten times quicker than it is to hire a
bunch of highly expensive gurus to pour over already-optimised code to
get maybe 50-100% performance increase after massive testing... and
then 6 months later buy the hardware anyway...
ymmv :-)


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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-30 Thread Themis

Robin Bowes;528957 Wrote: 
> On 29/03/10 23:34, Themis wrote:
> > 
> > Sorry, Phil, my English is not good enough to know what "throw tin"
> > means... and search engines were not of much help. I would be
> grateful
> > if you could provide a synonym, if you don't mind.
> 
> To "throw tin" at something means to upgrade the hardware.
> 
> R.
Thanks Robin.

Phil Leigh Wrote: 
> You can go so far then eventually you have to "throw tin" at the
> problem. 
Yes, you have to upgrade the hardware, eventually. But, problem is, you
upgrade it for adding another software, rarely for making existing
applications faster (except if you lack software experts to do so, or
you are advised by hardware makers...). ;)


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