Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Actually taking delivery of my Transporter tomorrow to replace SB3 +Lavry TransporterAnti-Cable XLR interconnectsJolida 1501a Hybrid ampMagnepan MG12 -- mmg_fan mmg_fan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9157 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Modwright Transporter (source) Modwright LS 36.5 (pre) McCormack DNA-500 (amp) Dali Helicon 400's (speakers) Soundstring Technology (interconnects) Synergistic Research Tesla Accelerator (speaker cable) -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
I will post about the Endlers when I get them. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Rydenfan. What do you think of the 36.5? Have you compared the sound of the MW TP directly to power w/no pre- to the sound with the pre? Just ineterested; I am really impressed with Dan's work. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Shredder;285847 Wrote: I did not own the stock, but I did some extensive listening to the stock version before I sprung for the mod. Both are teriffic, but I really like the warm tube sound of the Mod. Shredder - that is the most sensible post I have yet seen regarding the MW TP mod. Nice one!. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal...SB3+Stontronics PSU - Altmann JISCO/UPCI - TACT RCS 2.2X with Good Vibrations S/W - MF X-DAC V3/X-PSU/X-10 buffer (Audiocomm full mods)- Linn 5103 - Linn Aktiv 5.1 system (6x LK140's, ESPEK/TRIKAN/KATAN/SEIZMIK 10.5), Townsend Supertweeters, Kimber Chord cables Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Shredder;286116 Wrote: Rydenfan. What do you think of the 36.5? Have you compared the sound of the MW TP directly to power w/no pre- to the sound with the pre? Just ineterested; I am really impressed with Dan's work. Shredder, I have compared my system with the MW TP directly to my amp and with the 36.5 in between, it is in another league with the 36.5 in place. you can read a more detailed review of my impressions here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1013221 -- rydenfan rydenfan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Great review Rydenfan. Thanks. Some day, I may need one of those. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Phil. I have followed the MW TP posts and can't believe how controversial it has proven. Kind of funny. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Modwright TP directly into Classe CAM-350 monos w/no pre. Denon 2910 universal player through digital inputs in TP. Aerial Model 9 speakers. Anti-cables and ics. Very happy with this set-up. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Shredder;285716 Wrote: Modwright TP directly into Classe CAM-350 monos w/no pre. Denon 2910 universal player through digital inputs in TP. Aerial Model 9 speakers. Anti-cables and ics. Very happy with this set-up. Nice set up Shredder! How do you like the new ModWright Transporter - did you have the stock TP before the modded unit? Do you like running without a preamp? Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Slim Devices Transporter -- First Watt F1 (with Endler Attuators at input) -- AKG K1000 -- xand1x Linksys WRT54G -- Slim Devices Transporter (Black) -- First Watt F1 -- AKG K1000 xand1x's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14838 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP SPDIF to a set of Meridian DSP5000 digital active speakers TP Balanced out to a TACT 2.0 and then to a set of ATC SCM 50a actives TP rca to a Musical Fidelity X-cans V3 headphone amp (Siemens CCa's) and then to a set of Sennheiser 650 cans. I vary the headphone amp tho, I have a custom built SET hp amp as well as a custom built dual mono totally discrete component Solid state HP amp. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian DSP5500's TP/X-cans v3/Senns 650's TP/TACT 2.0/SCM 50a's TP/Meridian DSP5000's The nicest thing about smacking your head against the wall is...the feeling you get when you stop Rodney_Gold's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14618 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Mr. Bill. Thanks. I did not own the stock, but I did some extensive listening to the stock version before I sprung for the mod. Both are teriffic, but I really like the warm tube sound of the Mod. I am pretty happy running the TP directly into the monos. It definitely sounds better than it did with my old integrated as the pre (pre and power separated). I cannot imagine a pre adding much as it really sounds great as is. The only drwback is the volume; the lowest volume setting is way too loud. I have Endler attenuators on order, but have not received them yet. -- Shredder Shredder's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Shredder - thanks. I'll be interested to hear if the Endlers help or if you prefer the sound without them. Thanks, Bill -- mr_bill mr_bill's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6737 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Shredder;285847 Wrote: The only drwback is the volume; the lowest volume setting is way too loud. Hi Shredder, I am running my (stock) TP directly to my BK. I suffer the opposite...at 0db the music is at perfect loudness for the size of my listening room but not loud enough to shake the windows and p-off certain neighbors. Occasionally I am in the mood to shake them windows and deal with those neighbors. . -- haunyack Transporter | BK 200.2 | Vandersteen 3A Signature C.G. Conn New York Wonder haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter unbalanced output - DIY passive attenuators - Dynahi (self-built) - Sennheiser HD650. I may replace the Dynahi with a trimmed-down beta24 when I have more money and time, but meh. It's pretty damn good already. :) -- jacobdp jacobdp's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Parasound JC1 mono blocks Parasound JC2 Preamp Thiel CS 3.7 Speakers Straight Wire Crecendo Balanced Cables Straight Wire Octave Speaker Cable- temporary Hoping to find a way to use my Apple Time Capsule! -- dwelldesigns dwelldesigns's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16282 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
* Mac Mini with 2 x 500 GB USB drive, with 450 GB music (most lossless and high def (96/24). 2nd 500 GB drive is backup, running automatically. * Via Gbit ethernet, wired, to Transporter * Siltech Paris to Harman Kardon AVR 8500 * Mission 782, biwired (Ixos) * REL Strata III Sub (two of them, diagonally placed) * And last but not least - navigation via the superb new Duet Controller (via my WiFi) -- Audiotic MacMini CoreDuo, 450 GB of mostly ALAC lossless music (iTunes ripped) - Black Transporter (via analog digital out) HK DVD47 for SACD + DVD-A, via Siltech Paris to Harman Kardon AVR 8500 HK PA2200 Signature - Mission 782 plus 4 x Mission 780SE 78C 2 x REL Strata III Audiotic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5912 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter (Wired Ethernet to QNAP TS-101 Built-in Slimserver) Arcam A90 / P90 (Bi-Amping) PMC Db1+ Speakers Van Den Hul D102 Mk3 Interconnects Van Damme Blue Series Loudspeaker Cable Any thoughts or suggestions for improvement are welcome. -- milanlad milanlad's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7353 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Yes, the Isotek stuff is also very good. In fact they impressed Nordost enough that they collaborated on the Nordost Thor. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
johann;189933 Wrote: TP - Musical Fidelity A5 -Focal 1027Be TP - MF X-DACv8 - MF A5 -Focal 1027Be Johan, Could you tell me how different they sound or when you use X-DAC v8 between TP and MF A5? Thanks. -- smarco smarco's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12178 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Hi Wireless, I have an original Hydra, I haven't heard the latest versions. Have a look at this link to see what I thought: http://www.hifiplus.com/t-rev17-1.html -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Mine is simply connected to the pre/power via xlr's Wireless, you should also look at the Isotek mini-sub and the sigmas as a very good alternative to the hydra, they are quite popular in Europe but im not sure they are in the US market... The inclusion of the min-sub to my system was heavenly, probably my best purchase since it made all my equipment sound as it good as it should, good luck searching... +---+ |Filename: setup2.jpg | |Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=4609| +---+ -- GuyDebord Reference3A RoyalMaster monitors biwired with van den Hul Inspiration, REL Strata5. AMPS: Pathos Classic One MKIII's in mono config. ANALOGUE: Clearaudio Ambient CMB, Satisfy Carbon Lyra Helikon SL, ASR MiniBasis SQ preamp, link: WireWorld SilverEclipse 5.2. DIGITAL: SlimDevices Transporter, link: AcousticZen Silver Reference2 XLRs. POWER: Isotek MiniSub GII, Isotek Elite cables (MiniSub, Rel), Siltech SPX30 MKII (Transporter), van den Hul Mainstream (Pathos) van den Hul Mainserver (ASR). GuyDebord's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=14587 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter - Ethernet - Zalmann TNN 500 2x500Gb Seagate ES.2 Series Raid 0 + 2xGibabyte Iram in Raid 0 for OS and Slim server - CEC AMP 3300 Class A amplifier - Myryad Z110 (Digital output - Transporter) - BW CM1 speakers -- x-transporter x-transporter's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=16076 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
bigfool1956;248462 Wrote: [...] Power from Shunyata - a Hydra and a mix of their powersnakes (I put my money where my mouth was and bought the review set). How much did the Hydra improve the sound, if any? I'm thinking about buying a Hydra 4. regards, David -- wireless200 wireless200's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11887 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter to Tom Evans Vibe pre-amp with Pulse power supply. 4 x Michell Alecto Monoblocks to bi-amp the Ravel Salon speakers. Vinyl: Michell Orbe with Ringmat, SME V, Clearaudio Accurate cartridge, Tom Evan's Groove also with Pulse power supply. Signal and speaker cabling: Nordost Valhalla throughout. Power from Shunyata - a Hydra and a mix of their powersnakes (I put my money where my mouth was and bought the review set). Various support items. CD transport and DAC from Trichord - about to become a dusttrap. -- bigfool1956 David Ayers Music is what counts, hifi just helps us enjoy it more bigfool1956's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13782 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Has anyone here paired the Transporter with Bryston and 800-series BW? I'm wondering how that would sound in the end, because I love the Bryston B-60 with the BW 805s when they are fed by a Rega Apollo, but I wonder how the TP would compare? -- LikeButtah *2-Channel:* SB3 Rothwell Attenuators Quad 303 Dynaudio Audience 52 *Home Theatre:* Yamaha DVD-S657 Yamaha RXV-557 Tannoy Fusion F3s/F1s/FC Not bad for a student, eh? LikeButtah's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7258 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
My Transporter's connected to:- Naim NAC102 pre amp powered by a HiCap then on to a Linn Activ Tunebox Crossover then three Naim NAP 250s stereo power amps and finally 3 way active Linn Kaber speakers Also in the system are a Linn Sondek, a tuner and a CD player but they *never* get used, since I got the Transporter it's the only source I use -- jeremy jeremy's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3000 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Tranporter --Bal-- Bryston BP26DA Pre --Bal-- Linn Artikulat 350A I bypassed the Bryston to see if I could hear a difference and if there was one, it was negligible. I could get the TP to -10db before my windows started to visibly bow outward. I decided that for safety and flexibility of other sources, I'd keep the Bryston inline. I've A/B'd the balanced out vs. DAC in the Bryston and honestly can't conclude what differences there are and if I like it better one way or the other. The nice thing is that I have 3 DAC connections available for future digital sources...although I don't picture having anything other than a CD player I suppose. -- thomsens thomsens's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1352 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter -Bal- Bryston BP25 -Bal- Bryston 4B ST - PMC OB1. -- Chewie Esoteric DV50/ Transporter/ Squeezebox SB3/ Bryston BP25 Pre - 4BST Power Amplifier/ PMC GB1+. Chewie's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8747 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
I have my transporter feeding directly into my Simaudio Moon i-5. The DAC compares favorably to my Simaudio Moon Nova, so I haven't felt any need to add a seperate DAC. Speakers are Totem Arros. Inputs are: ComputerHagUSBDigital Coax In ServerEthernet Panasonic DMR-EH75VS (DVD/VCR/HDD)Digital Optical In Simaudio Moon Nova (as transport)both AES/EBU and BNC In One of these days I will get around to deathmatching the five paths I can use to play a CD(ComputerHagUSBTransporter, DVDTransporter, Nova as CD, Nova as transportTransporter AES/EBU, Nova as transportTransporter BNC). -- riffer riffer's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13459 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter -- ME-Geihtain RL 922k -- connorml Transporter (Firmware 33) / ME-Geithain RL 922k NF-Kabel Funk BS-2 SqueezeCenter 7.0 unter Windows 2000 Dell Optiplex GX150 SFF PIII 1Ghz / 512MB / 300GB connorml's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11141 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Just got my rack setup complete about two weeks ago. Here is what I'm planning: Transporter - Crestron CNX-PAD8a - AudioControl Avalon - Gallo Reference 3.1 with SubAmp I'm not sure if the PAD8a will introduce and sound issues, but it is there so I can also send the signal to other zones around the house. -- patrija patrija's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=380 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP - NHT Xd 2.2 -- Ken Rahaim Ken Rahaim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9526 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
I've never heard of them. I will do some more research! Thanks. -- MikeFish MikeFish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Hey Mike, what do you mean by bridge mode and how does this effect bi-amping? How much are the maridian? How much the Vandersteen? I read about atc 100 in this thread? Seem to be active speakers? This would involve replacing my dali speakers. I am satisfied with them. -- jaysung jaysung's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12375 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
jaysung;228458 Wrote: Hey Mike, what do you mean by bridge mode and how does this effect bi-amping? How much are the maridian? How much the Vandersteen? I read about atc 100 in this thread? Seem to be active speakers? This would involve replacing my dali speakers. I am satisfied with them. Oops looking at the atc scm 100 gave me a good laugh. And I thought I was crazzy! $22k for speakers. Nope. Definitely out of range! And happy about it! Will look at the other two to get an idea if I can tune my setup within a reasonable range. Any suggestions gratefully received. The 557 amplifier is a stereo amp that can be bridged for a mono output. Because I have two of them I could run them in mono mode with one powering each speaker. However I use them in stereo mode which means I have 4 channels of amplification. This means that instead of 680 watts per speaker I am running 200 watts per driver (i.e. 200 watts for left bass, 200 watts for left tweeter and so on). This is the way the designers of the amp had intended it to be used. In momo mode I could only bi-wire not bi-amp. I don't know of the atc 100 you mention. The speakers I was talking about are Called A.C.T. and made by a british company called Wilson Benesch. -- MikeFish MikeFish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
ATC produces speakers for different budgets starting from $1,000 up to the million dollar system they installed at the Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles. If you are curious about any of them I'd be happy to provide more information if you'd like to pm me. I am an ATC dealer in the San Francisco Bay area and I like to think of myself as someone who is looking to make new friends and share knowledge rather than convince someone to buy something. I found a product that I really like and realized that in the USA there aren't a lot of people outside of the professional world that have even heard of the name ATC. I think the Transporter is an amazing product and I hate having to fumble through cd's when I use my cd player. The Transporter - ATC active speaker is an excellent, minimal signal-path combination. If anyone is bothered by my post, please pm me and let me know what I should do differently or how I should edit this post to make it more appropriate. I don't like annoying salespeople or spam either, and I hope this doesn't qualify as either. Thanks, Will jaysung;228458 Wrote: Hey Mike, what do you mean by bridge mode and how does this effect bi-amping? How much are the maridian? How much the Vandersteen? I read about atc 100 in this thread? Seem to be active speakers? This would involve replacing my dali speakers. I am satisfied with them. Oops looking at the atc scm 100 gave me a good laugh. And I thought I was crazzy! $22k for speakers. Nope. Definitely out of range! And happy about it! Will look at the other two to get an idea if I can tune my setup within a reasonable range. Any suggestions gratefully received. -- musiklov3r musiklov3r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13166 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Hi currently connected to my transporter: crap of a dvd player via coax spdif tp - marantz pm-11s1 - dali helicon 400 Since I don't need the preamps capabilities of the Marantz anymore I wonder if I should sell it and get two power amps. I choose the marantz since it had xlr inputs and I had some devices which went into it. Especially my sb3 via rca. I would want to have symmetric power amps for arrround 1000 to 2000 Euro each. Any suggestions. -- jaysung jaysung's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12375 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Hi My transporter is connected directly to a pair of Meridian 557 power amps via balanced XLR (not in bridged mode to allow bi-amping). I also have a Meridian 500 CD transport connected to the AES/EBU input of the transporter. This used to run through a Meridian 518 and 566 (20bit) DAC but prefer the 500 going straight into the TP. My speakers were Mission Elegante E83s as my system was mainly used for movies (with a Rotel RSP-1098), however I hardly watch movies now and my system is slowly turning more into a 2 channel system. The massive E83s have made way for their smaller borthers the E81s as these sound much more musical. I have my eyes on some BW 800 series speakers or some Wilson Benesch A.C.Ts next as I think my speakers are throttling the rest of the system. -- MikeFish MikeFish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=12860 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
MikeFish;228280 Wrote: Hi My transporter is connected directly to a pair of Meridian 557 power amps via balanced XLR (not in bridged mode to allow bi-amping). I also have a Meridian 500 CD transport connected to the AES/EBU input of the transporter. This used to run through a Meridian 518 and 566 (20bit) DAC but prefer the 500 going straight into the TP. My speakers were Mission Elegante E83s as my system was mainly used for movies (with a Rotel RSP-1098), however I hardly watch movies now and my system is slowly turning more into a 2 channel system. The massive E83s have made way for their smaller borthers the E81s as these sound much more musical. I have my eyes on some BW 800 series speakers or some Wilson Benesch A.C.Ts next as I think my speakers are throttling the rest of the system. Don't rule out the Vandersteen line. I own a pair of 3A Signature and am convinced my search for quality speakers has come to an end. They also compliment the pony nicely. . -- haunyack Transporter - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. (Listening room) SB3 (RWA analog) - Rotel RB 1070 - BW Matrix 805. (Bedroom) Fridgidare - Mirror Pond pale ale - easy chair w/remote - irritated neighbors. haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
I hadn't thought about it that way. That's why I love these forums. There's so much to learn from people who take the time to share their knowledge... cliveb;227122 Wrote: Regardless of how the system is set up, a phono preamp is of course required. From then on, we have two choices: 1. phono preamp - analogue preamp - power amp 2. phono preamp - A/D converter - Transporter - power amp I think you are saying that you feel setup #1 will give superior sound quality. Intuitively one would expect this to be the case, as it avoids the A/D and D/A conversions. But I personally feel that setup #2 will sound better because in my experience, at a given price point, A/D converters are more transparent than preamps. -- musiklov3r musiklov3r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13166 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
musiklov3r;227005 Wrote: A simple preamp with phono stage should sound much better... Regardless of how the system is set up, a phono preamp is of course required. From then on, we have two choices: 1. phono preamp - analogue preamp - power amp 2. phono preamp - A/D converter - Transporter - power amp I think you are saying that you feel setup #1 will give superior sound quality. Intuitively one would expect this to be the case, as it avoids the A/D and D/A conversions. But I personally feel that setup #2 will sound better because in my experience, at a given price point, A/D converters are more transparent than preamps. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
I would think that adding an a/d converter so that you can feed your vinyl through the Transporter dac in order to use the Transporter as a preamp would work for convenience, but it would be counterintuitive for audio quality. The benefit of vinyl is that it is analog and was never subject to an a/d conversion nor an eventual d/a conversion. Unless you only care about the convenience of accessing your records and not their audio quality, I would suggest another route. A simple preamp with phono stage should sound much better, however, you would need to switch your SCM100 interconnects to change sources... -Will -- musiklov3r musiklov3r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13166 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
musiklov3r;227005 Wrote: I would think that adding an a/d converter so that you can feed your vinyl through the Transporter dac in order to use the Transporter as a preamp would work for convenience, but it would be counterintuitive for audio quality. The benefit of vinyl is that it is analog and was never subject to an a/d conversion nor an eventual d/a conversion. Unless you only care about the convenience of accessing your records and not their audio quality, I would suggest another route. A simple preamp with phono stage should sound much better, however, you would need to switch your SCM100 interconnects to change sources... -Will Oh, and I agree, the Transporter through ATC100's is fantastic. I have the active towers myself. erm...well that is true if you ignore a lot of what was recorded in the Eighties onwards...lots of really nasty 14-bit! digital gear started creeping into studios at that point... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Good points. I don't know if I could tell the difference unless I tried, either. ; ) Phil Leigh;227010 Wrote: erm...well that is true if you ignore a lot of what was recorded in the Eighties onwards...lots of really nasty 14-bit! digital gear started creeping into studios at that point... Oh and I bet you couldn't reliably tell the difference between raw vinyl and the same vinyl via a 24/44.1 ADC/DAC... I know I couldn't! -- musiklov3r musiklov3r's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13166 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
cliveb;224918 Wrote: I agree that very good A/D converters cost a lot of money. But we're talking about vinyl here, which is not really much of a challenge. I'd suggest that a Lucid AD9624, which can be had for under a grand, is easily good enough to transparently cope with anything that comes off a turntable. Probably even an old M-Audio Flying Calf would do fine. (And I say this as a user of a Linn LP12/Lingo/Ittok/Karma - it's not as if I don't appreciate decent vinyl replay). Contrast this to the price of the ATC SCA2 preamp, which costs about £4,000. I don't really have an obsession about eliminating the preamp. I just happen to think that it's worth doing if you can't afford the mega-price of a genuinely transparent preamp. I ditched a £2,500 preamp once I heard the improvement gained by removing it from the system. Clive, I am now running the same system as you, and it is the best system I have heard ;it will certainly keep me happy! Thanks for all the help. Transporter- ATC 100s. -- iwalker iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
cliveb;224540 Wrote: Adding any kind of active electronics into the signal path can only ever degrade the signal. If you use a device that's good enough (and I suspect the ATC SCA2 probably *is* good enough), then the degradation will be beneath the threshold of audibility, and therefore transparent. But a handful of metal film resistors to make up a passive attenuator costs a darn sight less than an SCA2. If you're only interested in the preamp so you can play vinyl, remember you'll need the optional SPH2 board as well, further upping the price. An alternative and cheaper setup would be to use a standalone phono preamp plus an A/D converter and feed that into one of the Transporter's digital inputs. This looks a very neat solution. Thank you. I'll look out for a suitable phono stage and A/D converter. Any suggestions? -- iwalker iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
iwalker;224901 Wrote: This looks a very neat solution. Thank you. I'll look out for a suitable phono stage and A/D converter. Any suggestions? Yes but Clive...getting a good ADC is quite an expensive challenge and you are going through an ADC-DAC chain unnecessarily. This obsession with no preamp doesn't make sense if you need a phono stage (and yes I did read your post carefully). Personally I'd rather buy a decent pre-amp with an internal or external phono stage. A lot depends on levels of quality required. A good external phono stage is going to be $1-2k. A good pre-amp with internal phono stages is going to be $2-3k. ADC's...well I'm not sure what would fit here. Apogee is good but not cheap. -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Phil Leigh wrote: ADC's...well I'm not sure what would fit here. Apogee is good but not cheap. At the audiophile level, ADCs are really expensive. There are lots fewer folks looking for ADCs than the other way (DAC). Apogee, Benchmark, Larvy, etc. make ADCs and DACs, but they all start about a grand for stereo. Slightly less expansive are things like M-Audio Delta series, but they are not cheap, and take opening up your PC, etc. -- Pat Farrell PRC recording studio http://www.pfarrell.com/PRC ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Pat Farrell;224907 Wrote: Phil Leigh wrote: ADC's...well I'm not sure what would fit here. Apogee is good but not cheap. At the audiophile level, ADCs are really expensive. There are lots fewer folks looking for ADCs than the other way (DAC). Apogee, Benchmark, Larvy, etc. make ADCs and DACs, but they all start about a grand for stereo. Slightly less expansive are things like M-Audio Delta series, but they are not cheap, and take opening up your PC, etc. -- Pat Farrell PRC recording studio http://www.pfarrell.com/PRC Yes I used to like my Midiman Flying Cow but I'm not sure it was audiophile...worked ok in the studio though... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd call minimal... ...SB3+TACT+Altmann+MF DACXV3/Linn tri-amped Aktiv 5.1 system and some very expensive cables ;o) Phil Leigh's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=85 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Phil Leigh;224904 Wrote: Yes but Clive...getting a good ADC is quite an expensive challenge and you are going through an ADC-DAC chain unnecessarily. This obsession with no preamp doesn't make sense if you need a phono stage (and yes I did read your post carefully). I agree that very good A/D converters cost a lot of money. But we're talking about vinyl here, which is not really much of a challenge. I'd suggest that a Lucid AD9624, which can be had for under a grand, is easily good enough to transparently cope with anything that comes off a turntable. Probably even an old M-Audio Flying Calf would do fine. (And I say this as a user of a Linn LP12/Lingo/Ittok/Karma - it's not as if I don't appreciate decent vinyl replay). Contrast this to the price of the ATC SCA2 preamp, which costs about £4,000. I don't really have an obsession about eliminating the preamp. I just happen to think that it's worth doing if you can't afford the mega-price of a genuinely transparent preamp. I ditched a £2,500 preamp once I heard the improvement gained by removing it from the system. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
iwalker;224434 Wrote: The alternative to the minimalist approach is egd's system with the ATC SCA2 preamp. This would allow me to use vinyl , but is it going to add or detract from the overall quality? Adding any kind of active electronics into the signal path can only ever degrade the signal. If you use a device that's good enough (and I suspect the ATC SCA2 probably *is* good enough), then the degradation will be beneath the threshold of audibility, and therefore transparent. But a handful of metal film resistors to make up a passive attenuator costs a darn sight less than an SCA2. If you're only interested in the preamp so you can play vinyl, remember you'll need the optional SPH2 board as well, further upping the price. An alternative and cheaper setup would be to use a standalone phono preamp plus an A/D converter and feed that into one of the Transporter's digital inputs. -- cliveb Transporter - ATC SCM100A cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter - Denon 3805 AVR - Rotel RMB 1095 5 channel amp - 3x BW 804, 2x BW 805. Velodyne DD15 Subwoofer (driven by Denon). Mostly play in so called 5channel stereo via the Denon AVR. Sometimes switch to pure direct on the Denon when 'really listening'. Denon useful as front end as I use the set up for DVD's, TV etc. I probably didn't need the Rotel power amp, but overcome by the usual lust. Dan -- chinablues chinablues's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7955 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP - dCS Delius DAC - Naim 552 - Naim 300 - Naim SL2s Interestingly neither the TP nor the dCS seem to deliver as good a sound when connected directly to the 300. Pitty, I was hoping to free up some cash! -- anselld anselld's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=11703 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
cliveb;190104 Wrote: Yes, I do have 13dB attenuators in the signal path. (Why 13dB? Well, I wanted about 12dB, and the resistors I had coveniently to hand happened to provide 13dB). So a more complete description would be: TP - balanced analogue outputs - 13dB attenuators - ATC SCM100A active monitors Normal listening levels are with the TP's volume control around -20dB to -10dB (depending on mood). That leaves a bit of extra in reserve for real head-banging sessions. Edit: You mentioned the risk of frying the monitors. I think that with ATCs this isn't a danger: the amps are carefully matched to the drive units, and I'd be surprised if they are not protected to prevent them doing any damage. Of course, SCM100As are perfectly capable of frying your ears before they blow up, so it's still advisable to be careful... Clive, I am looking for the best set up for my ATC SCM 100 active so your posts have been v interesting. I'll probably use Transporter-10dB attenuator-ATCs (I can get 10dB off the shelf) Have already had an unfortunate experience with Transporter feeding full, unattenuated putput into ATCs. The unit was returned as volume control didn't work. I'mm praying that the overload protection in the ATCs has worked! Have yet to buy a replacement Transporter, but will do so now I understand the attenuation issues. The alternative to the minimalist approach is egd's system with the ATC SCA2 preamp. This would allow me to use vinyl , but is it going to add or detract from the overall quality? -- iwalker iwalker's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=13004 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter - Classe amp - Sonus Faber speakers Balanced using XLR connectors. No other inputs used on TP or amp. No tuner, TV, etc. -- pfarrell Pat http://www.pfarrell.com/music/slimserver/slimsoftware.html pfarrell's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=200 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
yooper;189876 Wrote: What is connected to your Transporter? A CD player, external DAC, DVD player (etc.)? How is it connected and how are you using the world clock? Satisfied with the results? I'm curious as to what others are using their Transporter for. Mark Transporter - Bryston BP20 - BK Reference 200.2 - Vandersteen 3A Signature. Boulder Cable Nitro AC Black Mountain Pinnacle XLR Sigma Retro Gold Sweet as soft summer breeze caressing my ear. . -- haunyack They got a name for the winners in the world - I want a name when I lose - Steely Dan haunyack's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9721 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
evert;191230 Wrote: No, sorry, the direct connection is in use - by the SACD / DVD-A player... The AVR is however using the signal as is, nothing done by the DSP, no settings, tweaks. At least on the receivers I've had, direct was a mode rather than an input and could be applied to any input. Manufacturers refer to it as direct, pure direct, bypass etc. It just means your signal isn't going through an additional analog-to-digital conversion. Obviously it sounds good to you though, just wanted to suggest another possible improvement. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
cliveb;190796 Wrote: You can do this, by editing the strings subroutine in server/plugins/digitalinput/plugin.pm Cliveb: Thanks for the tip. I edited the plugin and changed the input labels. Now I need to get them to the root level, or somehow delete the unused options. -- gregeas gregeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Just unpacked and hooked up my beautiful black Transporter. can't stop listening!!! I discover all new things in my music. have I been using crap all that time I wonder? :-) Anyway: the Transporter is linked (Analog!) via Oehlback interlink to a Harman Kardon AVR 8500, which feeds into (with extra HM PA 2200 SE amp) six Mission 780 SE's, one 78C and a REL Strata III sub. For the transporter only the 2 front ones are used of course - stereo only. All my music is Apple Lossless on a Mac G5 DP on a (now full) 300 GB HD only for this... Network is GBit till the Transporter. If I compare the Transporter with my HK DVD47 SuperAudio / DVD Audio player, the Transporter wins... -- evert evert's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5912 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
evert;191199 Wrote: In the beginning of this evening I unpacked and hooked up my beautiful black Transporter. It's about midnight and I just can't stop listening!!! I discover all kinds new things in my music. Makes me wonder - have I been using crap stuff all that time? :-) Anyway: the Transporter is linked (Analog!) via Oehlbach interlink to a Harman Kardon AVR 8500, which feeds into (with extra HM PA 2200 SE amp) six Mission 780 SE's (biwired), one 78C and a REL Strata III sub (dual connect). For the transporter only the 2 front ones and the sub are used of course - stereo only. All my music is in Apple Lossless, stored on a Mac G5 DP on a (now full) 300 GB HD only for this... Network is GBit till the Transporter. No special tuning to cables, power supply etc is done. Interesting observation: if I compare the Transporter with my HK DVD47 SuperAudio / DVD Audio player, the Transporter wins... Are you using direct mode? (Something to bypass the DSP, see http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?AVReceivers) If not, it could be even better! Plus, although I don't believe in electronics break-in, I and many others did notice it. I'm more apt to believe our brains get used to the new sound and start noticing the nuances. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Mark Lanctot;191204 Wrote: Are you using direct mode? (Something to bypass the DSP, see http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?AVReceivers) If not, it could be even better! Plus, although I don't believe in electronics break-in, I and many others did notice it. I'm more apt to believe our brains get used to the new sound and start noticing the nuances. No, sorry, the direct connection is in use - by the SACD / DVD-A player... The AVR is however using the signal as is, nothing done by the DSP, no settings, tweaks. As you can see - almost 2 Am, still listening. I'm blown away by the TP, really! I believe you that my brain is getting the new sound. -- evert Mac G5DP w. 250+ GB GB of ALAC music - Black Transporter (analog) - HK AVR 8500 HK PA2200SE - 6 x Mission 780SE 78C (biwired) REL Strata III evert's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5912 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Due to a new baby in the house: Transporter - via XLR Balanced Interconnects - HeadRoom Max Balanced Amp (no DAC) - AKG 701s, (recabled into balanced configuration). What I don't listen to much these days: Bolder-modded SB3 + modded Elpac PS - Bryston BP25DA - Bryston 4B SST - Watt Puppy 7s. To my ears, the Bryston Transporter DACs sound quite similar. I am a big fan of both. Probably about time I swapped them around a bit and did some more comparative listening... -- muski muski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3670 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
gregeas;190743 Wrote: My main issue with using the Transporter as a digital pre-pro is its user friendliness for the family -- ideally the digital inputs could be custom labeled DVD and Cable, etc. I don't have a problem using it as is, but my wife would. You can do this, by editing the strings subroutine in server/plugins/digitalinput/plugin.pm -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter - Audio Note 2.1 Signature DAC - Cary SLP98P F1 - Audio Note Quest monos - Avantgarde DUO And it sounds fantastic. The Transporter sounds best connected to the Audio Note DAC, and therefore I'm not using it's internal DAC. -- janly janly's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4695 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter directly to NAP250 and cheap DVD player on the digital coax in. Muski, I'm very interested in how your headphone setup sounds, since I'm considering adding a Rudistor combined pre-amp/headphone amp to my setup, and like you I want to take advantage of the Transporters balanced output to make a completely balanced rig all the way to the headphones. Other reasons for wanting to add a pre-amp are that I feel there is something missing in the sound when directly connected to the power amp (my Transporter sounds no better right now than my old CD63KISig and it should be blowing it away easily), and in addition the digital volume control from the remote I feel is not very suitable for day-to-day volume control, only fine tuning. Have you or anyone else used Grado headphones in balanced config? -- coop250 coop250's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8217 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
janly;190864 Wrote: Transporter - Audio Note 2.1 Signature DAC - Cary SLP98P F1 - Audio Note Quest monos - Avantgarde DUO And it sounds fantastic. The Transporter sounds best connected to the Audio Note DAC, and therefore I'm not using it's internal DAC. Nice. You got a picture in the photo thread? Feel free to think of me in your will ;) Did you compare the TP with an AN transport into that DAC? Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanling CDT-100, Rotel RT-990BX, Esoteric Audio Research 859, Living Voice Auditorium IIs, Nordost and Anti-cables http://www.last.fm/user/AdamSlim/ adamslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7355 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
coop250 -- My end-to-end balanced headphone setup is wonderful (warning: very addictive!). I noticed a slight increase in detail and a very signficant improvement in imaging over the high-end unbalanced headphone system I had before (both with Transporter as source). I have yet to find a headphone amp with a built-in DAC that sounds better than the Transporter. I, too, prefer having analog volume control in the headphone pre/amp (and in my Bryston preamp, for that matter). I have never really tried doing a digital/analog vol control listening test, but it always seemed counter-intuitive to me to spend all the time and effort getting bit-perfect rips in EAC only to then start modifying those same bits for volume control in the digital stage... So far, I only have my AKG 701s wired for balanced use. I have read good things about Sennheiser HD650s in balanced mode, and am thinking about getting a set of balanced cables for my pair. I don't have a pair of Grados yet. I noticed that Moon Audio (www.moon-audio.com) sells the GS1000, RS1 RS2 cabled for balanced usage. I'm very curious about the GS1000. -- muski muski's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3670 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
gregeas;190399 Wrote: Transporter--Arcam C31 pre--Arcam P1 monoblocks--PMC FB1+ speakers. [snip] I'm thinking of removing the pre-amp at some point, but not sure. You'll never find out until you try. Removing the preamp from my system was one of the biggest upgrades I've made for years. (And it wasn't a bad preamp: a Nakamichi CA7 - the best preamp they ever made, when they were still a high-end company). -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
My main issue with using the Transporter as a digital pre-pro is its user friendliness for the family -- ideally the digital inputs could be custom labeled DVD and Cable, etc. I don't have a problem using it as is, but my wife would. -- gregeas gregeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Mark Lanctot;190202 Wrote: But for DD/DTS, you would have to set up the DVD player to output everything but L/R via analog, and L/R via S/PDIF. I doubt if there are such controls. Actually, that is quite common. -- johann johann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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johann;190240 Wrote: Actually, that is quite common. Huh. Can't say I've ever seen it though. Post edited. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Transporter--Arcam C31 pre--Arcam P1 monoblocks--PMC FB1+ speakers. Somehow the synergy in this system is better than with the top-of-the-line Arcam CD player. Still not sure why. RCA and speaker cables are Moon Audio Black Dragons. I also use the Transporter as a DAC for my cable box and PS3. I'm thinking of removing the pre-amp at some point, but not sure. -- gregeas gregeas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5877 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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Mark Lanctot;190272 Wrote: Huh. Can't say I've ever seen it though. Post edited. I think all the Sony and Denon DVD players I've owned had it. Just looked at the DVD-2910 to check and it certainly had it. -- johann johann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP - ModWright SWL 9.0 SE pre-amp - FirstWatt F3 - Omega XRS's Alesis Masterlink 9600 - TP and the non-TP parts: (modest turntable - Alesis ML 9600 for LP to digital recording) (old Adcom CD changer - old cobalt 307 DAC - ModWright preamp) I haven't tried the TP as a substitute DAC yet but I bet it would do a great job. The ModWright FirstWatt F3 JFET amplifier together sound better to me than many systems at ten times the price and the Transporter gives me a virtual music collection that is worth more than all I will ever earn in my lifetime. (!) I'm a huge fan of Slim Devices as a result. Funny thing is, I originally bought the TP as a music server for a work environment. When network access was restriced, it came to my house and will never leave! I end up buying more CD's and LP's than before though, guided by my listening to new artists on the TP... I still don't have a good answer for my wife's pointed question, Why do you need the CD if you can hear it on the Transporter?? Does anyone have an answer for that one? -- boslim boslim's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7941 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
I have a PolkAudio XM receiver sitting on top of my Transporter. The Transporter routes to a digital in on my DAC1. I had HOPED that I could loop through the Transporter from my PolkAudio XM receiver digital out, but it won't work. I got it to work ONCE, but haven't been able to repeat it. Is there a 'trick' to doing this, or is the Transporter even capable of doing this on a regular basis? All I want to do it PASS-THROUGH a digital input source. -- Eric Seaberg Eric Seaberg - San Diego [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Seaberg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7896 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
SlimServer - wired ethernet - TP Cambridge DVD57 DVD player - COAX SPDIF - TP Topfield TF5800 PVR - Toslink - TP TP - balanced analogue outputs - ATC SCM100A active monitors The Transporter works superbly as a digital preamp. (Once http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=4580 is fixed, it'll be perfect). -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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cliveb;190064 Wrote: TP - balanced analogue outputs - ATC SCM100A active monitors Clive, pardon my ignorance, but would it not be advisable to use balanced attenuators in this scenario? I only ask because I'm contemplating the same setup and don't want to risk frying the monitors on some off chance of a software malfunction. -- egd Linux and loving IT! egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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egd;190076 Wrote: Clive, pardon my ignorance, but would it not be advisable to use balanced attenuators in this scenario? I only ask because I'm contemplating the same setup and don't want to risk frying the monitors on some off chance of a software malfunction. Yes, I do have 13dB attenuators in the signal path. (Why 13dB? Well, I wanted about 12dB, and the resistors I had coveniently to hand happened to provide 13dB). So a more complete description would be: TP - balanced analogue outputs - 13dB attenuators - ATC SCM100A active monitors Normal listening levels are with the TP's volume control around -20dB to -10dB (depending on mood). That leaves a bit of extra in reserve for real head-banging sessions. Edit: You mentioned the risk of frying the monitors. I think that with ATCs this isn't a danger: the amps are carefully matched to the drive units, and I'd be surprised if they are not protected to prevent them doing any damage. Of course, SCM100As are perfectly capable of frying your ears before they blow up, so it's still advisable to be careful... -- cliveb Performers - dozens of mixers and effects - clipped/hypercompressed mastering - you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP / Rosendahl wordclock -- dCS 972 upsampling in DSD -- dCS 955 -- Passs Aleph pream -- Pass Aleph 1.2 amp -- Revar Harpus -- fred1322 fred1322's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8994 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
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SlimServer - Wireless ethernet - TP Denver DVD-188 - Coax SPDIF - TP Xbox 360 - TOSLINK - TP TP - balanced output - Genelec 8020A powered monitors The DVD player is really crap and I would like to get something better. At the same time I would like to get surround sound but still get the front R/L directly from the TP. Would it be possible to use e.g. a Cambridge DVD89 and route centre, and rear audio analogue outputs directly to powered monitors and route the front R/L to the TP via Coax SPDIF? Would the TP be able to pick out just the front R/L signals from the digital audio signal? -- bergek Transporter - Genelec 8020A Squeezebox 3 - Yamaha NX-A01 Serener GS-L02 - Via EPIA SP8000 - Ubuntu 6.06 Server bergek's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7805 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
A power cord and a pair of interconnects. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
bergek;190186 Wrote: The DVD player is really crap and I would like to get something better. At the same time I would like to get surround sound but still get the front R/L directly from the TP. Would it be possible to use e.g. a Cambridge DVD89 and route centre, and rear audio analogue outputs directly to powered monitors and route the front R/L to the TP via Coax SPDIF? Would the TP be able to pick out just the front R/L signals from the digital audio signal? No, surround sound is usually Dolby Digital or DTS. The SB3 and the Transporter don't know what to do with it. You would have to set up the DVD player to output everything but L/R via analog, and L/R via S/PDIF. I doubt if there are such controls. -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
What is connected to your Transporter? A CD player, external DAC, DVD player (etc.)? How is it connected and how are you using the world clock? Satisfied with the results? I'm curious as to what others are using their Transporter for. Mark -- yooper yooper's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8835 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Very simple. Transporter - Arcam FMJ A32 amplifier - Monitor Audio GS-20 speakers. Actually I suppose for completeness I should also say I'm using the wireless bridging feature to connect an NSLU2 (which is in turn acting as FTP server for my Toppy PVR) to the wireless network. Maybe not quite so simple after all! Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
Mine's pretty simple too... am still trying to swap the NAIM for a Bryston though. MC -- ModelCitizen It is far better to grasp the Universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. Transporter Naim NAP 250 PMC OB1s. http://www.last.fm/user/ModelCitizen ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TPJeff Rowland Amp WAtt/Puppy. I'm trying out the Endler balanced attenuaters instead of my Rowland pre amp. I'm not sure it sounds better though. -- tomjtx tomjtx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7449 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP - Musical Fidelity A5 -Focal 1027Be TP - MF X-DACv8 - MF A5 -Focal 1027Be TP - Denon AVR-2807 - MF A5 (using HT bypass) -Focal 1027Be Denon DVD-2910 - TP PC with SoundBlaster X-fi Elite Pro - TP (using TOSLINK). I also have a Linn LP12 hooked up to the M5 A5. Cheers, /Johan -- johann johann's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10177 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is connected to your Transporter?
TP-Dodson DA-218 DAC-Blue Circle BC3000mkII+GZpz preamp-Blue Circle BC206 amp-Focus Audio FS-888 speakers -- PhilNYC Sonic Spirits Inc. http://www.sonicspirits.com PhilNYC's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=837 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=33868 ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/audiophiles
