RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Some help

[M. Stringer]

Hi,

My grandmother and family arrived at New Bedord, MA (July 7, 1904, S. S.
Patria).  Per the ship's roster, their destination was her mother's sister
in Cambridge, MA.

Her (and siblings') Naturalization papers were the core resources.  They
cited their ship and other details about their journey and familes in the
US.

There were other East Coast points of entry - some entries via Canada.
Other helpful resources could be clues/details in censuses, directories,
newspapers.

Cheers,

Marsha Stringer
strin...@mstringer.net

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From: azores@googlegroups.com  On Behalf Of Scott
Edward Anderson
Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2019 3:00 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Some help

Hola Gordon,

Boston, Massachusetts,
and Providence, Rhode Island, are two other port possibilities.

Scott

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2019, at 2:27 PM, Gordon soares  wrote:
>
> What other ports of entry would someone come through if not Ellis Island?
> I have searched Ellis Island for my grandfather Jesse Ferreira and have
> not found him. There is a possibility of someone with like name (Ferrero
> which was a misspelling of his name on a census document) leaving the
> Azores on a New Zealand ship Admiral Sampson NZ bound for Port Antonio,
> Jamaica in 1902. The date is a match but that is a long shot. I don’t know
> how to proceed but would want to look for other US ports of disembarking.
> Anybody have some suggestions?
>
> Gordon

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for grandmother's family

[M. Stringer]

Hi Patrick,



Try exploring US sources.





Information and images available online via Ancestry.com, etc.

*US Censuses (1910, 20, 30, 40): especially ‘10 and ‘20 have a section
asking when to US and citizenship status (Al – alien; Pa – filed papers; Na
– Naturalized)

*If Pa or Na, you can then check for filings of Intent or Naturalization
papers – which would have the details the ship, dates.  From the ship’s
roster, you’ll hopefully find the family cluster and their destination (who
they were coming to see/be with).



Best of luck,







Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net



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Of *Patrick
McCormack
*Sent:* Thursday, April 18, 2019 8:41 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy 
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] looking for grandmother's family



Maria Cavalho Valentim (?)  Left the Azores early early 1900's.  She
was pre-teen, maybe as young as 9.  Came with mother and siblings.  More to
Fall River, Massachusetts, USA area.  Maybe Providence, Rhode Island at
first.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off Subject question about Family Treekmaker software

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



A similar option:  give the ‘Unknown Spouse’ any name (something not
confused with your real names that you’ll easily know).  Then, delete that
person.



Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2019 11:37 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off Subject question about Family
Treekmaker software



I use to have that issue too i did what JR said made it the same as current
spouse with same bday. But when there was no spouse hard to delete



On Fri, Apr 5, 2019 at 9:30 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

JR, Thanks for this.  I did try that method but; perhaps because I did not
have birth dates, it didn’t work for me.  I’ll try that with fake
birthdates.



Appreciate the help,



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



*From: *JR 
*Sent: *Thursday, April 4, 2019 9:46 PM
*To: *Azores Genealogy 
*Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off Subject question about Family
Treekmaker software



Select and right click any individual and then select delete for FTM Ver 14.



There is another way to remove unknown spouse. Since I don't use most
recent version of FTM even though I have it, so this may not apply to your
case. However, try this:



In the Unknown spouse field, create the same identical name of the existing
spouse. Be sure to give the existing and the new spouse the same birth
dates. So let's say, Manuel da Costa is married to Maria Furtado and to
unknown spouse. Rename unknown spouse to Maria Furtado. So now you have
Manuel da Costa married to two Maria Furtados. Once the two Maria Furtado's
are given same birthdays of 1750, FTM will ask if these are same people.
Say yes and it will merge them and your unknown spouse and/or second spouse
will disappear. You can also do this manually, by merging two people with
exact birth dates. I find applying two like names and like birthdates the
easiest way. After they are merged, you can always correct the names or
birth dates if necessary.



JR

On Thursday, April 4, 2019 at 10:48:46 PM UTC-4, Sam (Camas, WA) wrote:

That’s a sneaky work around Leonor.  I’ll give ita try, thanks!



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



*From: *Leonor Bertoni
*Sent: *Thursday, April 4, 2019 5:23 PM
*To: *azo...@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Off Subject question about Family
Treekmaker software



Are you using FTM? If so, it had added an unknown spouse to some of my
living relatives. I deleted the fact on Ancestry and it eventually deleted
from FTM. I couldn’t figure out how to delete it from FTM.



On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 8:05 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:



Does anyone know how to delete an “unknown spouse”.  I have inadvertently
hit the “add a spouse” button when there was no spouse to add.  I know how
to delete a person who has a name but; it won’t let me delete the blank
spouse so, I have 3 spouses showing instead of 2 and that is messing things
up.



Thanks all,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information

[M. Stringer]

Hi Walter,



When starting out, I was guided to using the Bef/Aft/Abt system to have the
most concrete info/reference in the Birth/Marriage/Death date blocks.



Born:   *Place line/block*

Bef 25 Mar 1678 put baptismal location

Abt 1678 Calc fm age at death/in will/etc

Aft 1678 Not of age Fa/xxx will



Death

Bef 3 Feb 1700   bur xxx (location from burial)

Aft Feb 1700   alive in Fa  will

Bef Feb 1700  dec’d at dau/son xxx marriage



Regards,





Marsha Stringer

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Teixeira
*Sent:* Friday, March 8, 2019 8:51 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Birth information



Cheri,



I know you must have this information at the tip of your tongue and it
would take me a lot longer to try and find it in one of your helping aids.
During the time period where the birth date is not given in the baptism
record and you only have the baptism date, what do most people do about the
birth date?

Example:

Baptism Date: 25 March 1678

Birth Date: about 25 March 1678or  about March 1678



Thanks,



Walt

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Problem Changing Tree

[M. Stringer]

I’m on a 2nd attempt at updating/replacing my FTDNA tree with a gedcom.



On the tree page, selected upload gedcom, no problem with the selection of
gedcom and my ID in the tree.  Says a few minutes.  First attempt closed
after 30 min.  Logged in and the old tree was still there.



Now 20 min into the second attempt.  Keeps spinning and saying it may take
a few minutes.  Just 225 people and limited notes.



Is here a way to first delete the FTDNA tree, then start fresh?



Marsha Stringer

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Found DUTRA/PINHEIRO 2nd Cousins (from Terceira to Boston)

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



During a periodic check of recent DNA matches I recognized a young
DUTRA/PINHEIRO cousin via names in her tree.   Surprise!!  We are 2nd
cousins, 1x Removed (her mother is my 2nd).  This is the line of my
grandmother’s brother (family cluster immigration to Boston in 1904). I
know the US families fairly well – at least through my mother’s
generation.  I’m curious about the DNA results.



Ancestry says we share 19.5 cM over 2 segments.  Is this a ‘low’ number for
the relationship?  Can’t see the chromosome details, so don’t know what to
do with the DNA information.  I’d like to suggest she upload her results to
FTDNA and join the project.  Is that still possible?  Guessing not as
valuable as a FTDNA test, but that suggestion can come later (next round of
sales?).



Our shared family is: 1850 Jose Machado DUTRA + 1855 Maria do Carmo
PINHEIRO – Terceira.  While searching Maria do Carmo, ‘hints’ led to the
tree of yet another 2nd cousin of the same family.  This cousin hasn’t
tested.



Jose Machado DUTRA, b 16Nov1850, Conceicao, Terceira; d ?.

Learned that his parents were both from Pico.   They married 1844,
Conceicao, Terceira.  Parents: Jose Francisco DUTRA [b 2Feb1820, Lajes,
Pico] + Bernarda Candida [b 25Mar1825, Piedade, Pico].  Since joining the
project I have recognized DNA cousins of this line.



Maria do Carmo PINHEIRO, b 10Aug1855, Sao Mateus, Terceira; d 10Nov1913,
Cambridge, Middlesex, MA.  Parents: Francisco Nunes PINHEIRO [b 15Feb1818,
Sao Mateus, Terceira] + Maria Julia [b 07Nov1923, Santa Barbera, Terceira.



I have not recognized any DNA cousins of this line.   Along this line, I
have Maria de Nazare, cited as native, Topo, Sao Jorge, Azores,  in the
baptism of dau Luzia do Carmo.  Have no further details re family of Topo.







Marsha Stringer

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Email

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri and Richard,

Thanks for your help.  Trying to adapt to a new Windows 10 laptop.

Windows 10 created its own  interface page (vs established loaded GMail and
Outlook).  So using Cheri's copy/paste option.

Marsha Stringer
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Sent from my tablet

On Wed, Dec 19, 2018, 11:32 AM Cheri Mello  Marsha S,
>
> It's how you have your computer set up. You have to set up your computer
> to pick Outlook, another email client, etc.
>
> When I find a match that I want to email, I RIGHT click the envelope. A
> menu window opens, with choices. I pick "Copy Email Address." LEFT click
> that. Then I go to my email client and paste it (Ctrl+V) or right click and
> a menu opens and LEFT click Paste.
>
> (Works for a PC running Windows).  Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 8:25 AM M. Stringer 
> wrote:
>
>> Greetings,
>>
>>
>>
>> Tried to send an email to an FTDNA match.  This time got a pop-up asking
>> which service I wanted to use.
>>
>> Is this an FTDNA site change, or an issue with my computer?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>>
>>
>> Marsha Stringer
>>
>> strin...@mstringer.net
>>
>>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] FTDNA Email

[M. Stringer]

Greetings,



Tried to send an email to an FTDNA match.  This time got a pop-up asking
which service I wanted to use.

Is this an FTDNA site change, or an issue with my computer?



Thanks,



Marsha Stringer

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[AZORES-Genealogy] DNA Testing differences

[M. Stringer]

I did go ahead and upload the Ancestry results to My Heritage.  Received
the results today, and there are some interesting differences.



There was no problem with the upload process for a 2nd/subsequent set of
results.

This time, followed the instructions for Ancestry instead of FTDNA. Said
they were for me.

Each set of results shows under my profile, and I can select viewing by
either one of them.



FTDNA

Family Finder  1,066 matches



Ancestry ? matches (have never found the information on
the site)



My Heritage uploads from

FTDNA   2,927 matches, 12 ethnicities



Ancestry 1,876 matches, 10 ethnicities









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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading Multiple kits; etc

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri,



Thank You again for your quick response and patience.



The paper trail research is very clean/thorough (‘cousin’ researching since
1970ish, me since 1998 with LOTS of
collaboration/corroboration/documentation).  Long story and not Azores, so
trying to stick to the DNA of it all – which could apply to any of us along
the way.  The DNA disconnect seems to be  at my grandfather’s father.  My
grandfather was the 1st child of his parents (5 yrs after they married;
have their marriage, his birth/baptism).  I have found DNA matches to two
of his maternal grandmother’s siblings.  So, he is his mother’s son.  No
discovered matches to his father’s family.  Thinking IF NPE, either he’s
not the natural s/o his father OR his father is not the natural son of his
parents (who happen to be 1st cousins; have his 1850 baptism and he is an
infant with his family in the 1851 census).   Plenty of endogamous here
too.



Suggesting not necessarily a NPE, I was also told that it isn’t a
surprise/unusual that there is no match to a 3rd cousin once removed (given
random distribution).  I know other ‘cousins’ (4th+) have tested and I’m
not matching them either. Thus, trying to figure out how to proceed.  No
paternal first cousins.  Some second cousin possibilities, if they will
agree to test.



Your positive influence is clearly visible re encouraging testing : )  Just
wondering if random distribution could also be a component.  I found a
match via the Boston Irish project (paternal grandmother).  We emailed and
learned that our likely connection is the Azores!



Is there anything FTDNA could do to enhance following FamilyFinder results?



Thanks again,



Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net



*From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Cheri
Mello
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 4:55 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy 
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading Multiple
kits; etc



Marsha S,



I guess I should have capped "distant matches" in that large paragraph. You
will see more DISTANT MATCHES with the FTDNA upload. All close matches 1st,
2nd, and 3rd cousins, will be pretty much the same. It's the 4th - distant
cousin category that FTDNA will attract more matches.



To figure out a "Non Paternal Event" or "Not the Parent Expected" (NPE) or
misattributed parentage, you have to work all your KNOWN lines. The ones
you can't figure out may very well be from that mystery line. You need a
really close match to that line. If it's your grandparent and you are the
testee, you are looking for a 1st or 2nd cousin on that line. It can be
done with a 3rd cousin and a lot of work.



Some people get more Portuguese matches because I try real hard to recruit
people to the Azores DNA Project. And to encourage more testing. The more
you have, the more information it will reveal, and you will find more
cousins!



Many Projects on FTDNA are "Surname Projects" and focus on Y-DNA only. I
run a couple of those. I don't recruit Family Finder for those, but I don't
turn them away if they join. Trying to work in Family Finder with the
"Smith Surname Project" means I'd have to wade through everyone's tree
looking for the proper Smith and trying to ignore all the Jones, Brown,
Anderson, etc matches. But yet, I'd need to know (somewhat) how the Jones,
Brown, and Anderson fit in so I'm looking at the right branch. It's rather
difficult. The Azores DNA Project is NOT a surname project. It's a
Geographical Project and was set up that way. So we are looking a region.
And it's endogamous (intermarried). So surnames are not as important as
being from the same freguesia (village). It's a little easier to match that
way, but harder to find out ALL THE WAYS that you match due to the
intermarriage. So projects are a little different and some don't accept
Family Finder (or mtDNA). It's not the goal of the project so the admin(s)
don't take it.

Hope this helps,

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] AZORES-Genealogy] Uploading Multiple kits; etc

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri,



My motivation is seeing if the different tests yield different matches.
This because I’m increasingly concerned I may have stumbled upon a NPE re
my paternal (English) grandfather (very thorough paper trail research).  I
found two matches (1 each Ancestry and My Heritage) to his mother’s line,
but not one to his father’s line, including the closest tested 3rd cousin
once removed.  Trying to figure out how to proceed re attempting to sort it
out.



I see/think I see (now via all 3 venues: FTDNA, Ancestry, MH) many more
matches re the Azores.  Is that ‘shuffling of the deck of cards’, or the
wonders of the Azores project/group?



Have tried to seek other relevant projects, but many are NOT yet
FamilyFinder friendly (with a few notable exceptions).  All the more
appreciative of the Azores project.



Thanks for responding so quickly.



Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net



*From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Cheri
Mello
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 2:53 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy 
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My
HeritageDNAbefore December 1



Marsha S,



Someone just asked me this same question about uploading more than one kit
for the same person. I don't know if it was to the list or to me
personally. Anyways, here's my answer:



<https://www.myheritage.com/contact-myheritage



But why would you do that? Let's say I match you. So I log in and I see
Your DNA Kit 1, Your DNA Kit 2, and Your DNA Kit 3. From a match
perspective, I want to see different matches, not to the same one. I know
Roberta Estes, who has the DNA Explained blog has uploaded her DNA from the
different companies to different sites, as she's blogged about it. But she
explains how many matches she's getting out of this company vs. that
company. Out of the 3, AncestryDNA, 23 and Me, and FTDNA, it will be FTDNA
that has the most family markers/SNPs. AncestryDNA and 23 and Me have
replaced almost half their family markers with health markers. So if you
are fishing for cousins, including distant ones, upload the FTDNA build 37
concatenated. You will get more distant matches. But if you want to do it
to see what happens, I guess your best bet would be to contact My Heritage.
I've just never understood why people upload multiple kits ;)



Good luck!



Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada





On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 11:48 AM M. Stringer  wrote:

Hi,



I got the same/similar message at first re FTDNA (not sure which mistake);
tried again and it worked.



Is it possible to upload a 2nd test?  Wondering if there would be different
results via the Ancestry test?



Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net



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Mello
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 1:45 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy 
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My
HeritageDNAbefore December 1



Sam, I really don't know if you can upload it again.



https://www.myheritage.com/contact-myheritage



There's phone numbers and other ways to contact them. I hope it works!!
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada





On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:41 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Rick;  Since I got that message when I uploaded my sister’s raw data, do
you know if I can uploaded it again? Will a second upload over-ride the
first?  I’m thinking you could be right and I may have clicked on the wrong
download when I did it the first time.



Thanks,



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



*From: *Richard Francis Pimentel 
*Sent: *Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:28 AM
*To: *azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My
HeritageDNAbefore December 1



*Sam, I just did mine this morning and had no problems.   I first
downloaded my DNA from Family Tree DNA. You want to download Build 37
Autosomal. If you did not use this one then that could be the problem. It
is an easy mistake to make because you can also download Build 36 which
will not work.*



*Rick*

*Richard Francis Pimentel*

*Epping, NH*



*Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*







*From:* 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:
azores@googlegroups.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:22 AM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage
DNAbefore December 1



Cheri;  Thanks for this reminder.  I had tried to do this twice now without
success.  It just kept showing that it was uploading but; would never
finish.  Thanks to you reminder, I tried again this morning with success.
I’ve uploaded all 3 of the kits I man

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My HeritageDNAbefore December 1

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



I got the same/similar message at first re FTDNA (not sure which mistake);
tried again and it worked.



Is it possible to upload a 2nd test?  Wondering if there would be different
results via the Ancestry test?



Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net



*From:* azores@googlegroups.com  *On Behalf Of *Cheri
Mello
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 1:45 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy 
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My
HeritageDNAbefore December 1



Sam, I really don't know if you can upload it again.



https://www.myheritage.com/contact-myheritage



There's phone numbers and other ways to contact them. I hope it works!!
Cheri

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada





On Thu, Nov 29, 2018 at 8:41 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Rick;  Since I got that message when I uploaded my sister’s raw data, do
you know if I can uploaded it again? Will a second upload over-ride the
first?  I’m thinking you could be right and I may have clicked on the wrong
download when I did it the first time.



Thanks,



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



*From: *Richard Francis Pimentel 
*Sent: *Thursday, November 29, 2018 9:28 AM
*To: *azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My
HeritageDNAbefore December 1



*Sam, I just did mine this morning and had no problems.   I first
downloaded my DNA from Family Tree DNA. You want to download Build 37
Autosomal. If you did not use this one then that could be the problem. It
is an easy mistake to make because you can also download Build 36 which
will not work.*



*Rick*

*Richard Francis Pimentel*

*Epping, NH*



*Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*







*From:* 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:
azores@googlegroups.com]
*Sent:* Thursday, November 29, 2018 11:22 AM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage
DNAbefore December 1



Cheri;  Thanks for this reminder.  I had tried to do this twice now without
success.  It just kept showing that it was uploading but; would never
finish.  Thanks to you reminder, I tried again this morning with success.
I’ve uploaded all 3 of the kits I manage to My Heritage.  Interestingly,
there were no issues with the two male kits but; when  uploaded my sister’s
kit I received a message that said something like, we are unable to process
this type of information at this time.  We will notify you when we are able
to. (Something like that anyway).  Any ideas on that?



Thanks again,



Sam (Mazatlán, MX)



*From: *Cheri Mello 
*Sent: *Wednesday, November 28, 2018 8:14 PM
*To: *Azores Genealogy ;
madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com; islandrou...@googlegroups.com
*Subject: *[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Transferring your DNA to My Heritage
DNAbefore December 1



(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)



Just a reminder...You only have a couple of days left before My Heritage
starts charging on Dec. 1st.

Original email below:



For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December
1st.



Each testing company has developed different tools and has different
population samples. Transferring to MyHeritage DNA is currently free. Use
of their tools will be grandfathered in. Beginning December 1st, you will
have to pay. No, I don't know the amount.



Here is what Dick Eastman says about the transfer: https://goo.gl/F5VScW



Here is Roberta Estes' step-by-step guide to downloading and transferring:

https://goo.gl/9bYpyM



Roberta went to My Heritage's conference last week and spent a lot of time
at the DNA lectures. Roberta does have a scientific or technical
background, so she completely understands this stuff. She tries very hard
to break the science down for the us to understand in her blog,
DNA-Explained.com. She wrote a long, detailed article on how DNA matching
is done at My Heritage. All companies have their own similar processes. I
encourage everyone to read the article and try to follow along. You don't
need to understand the gory details. The only understanding is that there's
a lot of science and stuff behind the scenes going into these matches and
it's not a perfect science. There's no way to appreciate it until you read
(or attend) lectures like this. So read her latest blog with the
understanding that you are following along and will only digest small
portions of it: https://goo.gl/uAnanQ



Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada





On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:23 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes list

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNA before December 1

[M. Stringer]

THANK YOU Cheri.



Found it.  Done.



Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net


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*Sent:* Saturday, November 17, 2018 6:08 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNA
before December 1



Concatenated build 37, on the message before yours (in case you missed it).

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada





On Sat, Nov 17, 2018 at 3:06 PM M. Stringer  wrote:

Hi,



Need to verify correct file/format downloaded from FTDNA for the transfer.



>From menu:  ‘Build 37 Autosomal Raw Data’



File: an Excel CSV file



Correct item to upload to My Heritage?



Thanks,





Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net


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*Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2018 3:24 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com;
islandrou...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNA
before December 1





For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December
1st.



Here is what Dick Eastman says about the transfer: https://goo.gl/F5VScW



Here is Roberta Estes' step-by-step guide to downloading and transferring:

https://goo.gl/9bYpyM





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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNA before December 1

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



Need to verify correct file/format downloaded from FTDNA for the transfer.



>From menu:  ‘Build 37 Autosomal Raw Data’



File: an Excel CSV file



Correct item to upload to My Heritage?



Thanks,





Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net


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*Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2018 3:24 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com;
islandrou...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNA
before December 1





For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December
1st.



Here is what Dick Eastman says about the transfer: https://goo.gl/F5VScW



Here is Roberta Estes' step-by-step guide to downloading and transferring:

https://goo.gl/9bYpyM

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNA before December 1

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri,



I had thought there were privacy concerns re downloading raw data?



Are there pros/cons re uploading to My Heritage?  What about GedMatch?



Cheers,



Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net









*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
Of *Cheri Mello
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 06, 2018 3:24 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy; madeira-geneal...@googlegroups.com;
islandrou...@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Transferring your DNA to My Heritage DNA
before December 1



(Cross posted to Azores, Madeira, and IslandRoutes lists)



For those who have DNA tested, you will want to download your raw data from
whichever company and transfer it over to My Heritage DNA before December
1st.



Each testing company has developed different tools and has different
population samples. Transferring to MyHeritage DNA is currently free. Use
of their tools will be grandfathered in. Beginning December 1st, you will
have to pay. No, I don't know the amount.



Here is what Dick Eastman says about the transfer: https://goo.gl/F5VScW



Here is Roberta Estes' step-by-step guide to downloading and transferring:

https://goo.gl/9bYpyM



Roberta went to My Heritage's conference last week and spent a lot of time
at the DNA lectures. Roberta does have a scientific or technical
background, so she completely understands this stuff. She tries very hard
to break the science down for the us to understand in her blog,
DNA-Explained.com. She wrote a long, detailed article on how DNA matching
is done at My Heritage. All companies have their own similar processes. I
encourage everyone to read the article and try to follow along. You don't
need to understand the gory details. The only understanding is that there's
a lot of science and stuff behind the scenes going into these matches and
it's not a perfect science. There's no way to appreciate it until you read
(or attend) lectures like this. So read her latest blog with the
understanding that you are following along and will only digest small
portions of it: https://goo.gl/uAnanQ



And transfer over now, before American Thanksgiving and other things that
will come up and make you forget :)

Cheri Mello, Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel F. Sylvia/Silva

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



In MA, you can get also get a death certificate (for less $$) at the local
town/city hall.



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*Sent:* Friday, July 20, 2018 11:50 AM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel F. Sylvia/Silva



Maggie, since you have the exact death date you need to get his Death
Certificate from the State. It will also give you the Funeral Home info so
that you can contact them for more info on the burial.

Cheri's suggestion of calling the Sexton's office at the Cemetery should
also help. Even though he may not have a headstone, they should have info
on where he was buried and with whom.




Rosemarie

rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily



On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 8:31 AM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

Repost for Maggie Costa, kenandmaggiecosta at gmail.com



Manuel F. Sylvia was buried in St. John's Cemetery, but we don't know
where. He died Dec. 5, 1917 and was living at 23 Hemlock St
. in New
Bedford, Massachusetts. His sister, Mary Madeiros/Medeiros was born around
1876 and died around 1959. He lived with her when he died.



I have found a Mary Medeiros at a plot 9th Ave which may be her. Her
husband, Paulino Madeiros/Medeiros (1873-1955) plot street John section
1086. We think Manuel may be buried in one of their plots.



Any help would be great. Thanks, Maggie



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Phone for a month in the Azores

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



We bought something called OneSimCard a few years ago, which works in
multiple countries.  At that time, you had your card, and had an account
where you could top up your funds as needed.

The call rates were better than we could get with our gsm cell providers.



http://www.onesimcard.com/





Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net


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*Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2018 12:22 AM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Phone for a month in the Azores



I’ve bought SIM cards at the post office. Cheap and easy to do. I don’t
remember the price, but it worked fine with my iPhone. New phone number but
everything else on my phone was the same.

Bill



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[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Ancestry

[M. Stringer]

Greetings,

Can't make any suggestions for any version of internet posting that is 
really private.  Perhaps a modified version of your trees might be a 
consideration?

I resisted posting any trees, anywhere -- until participating in this 
group.  I used the FTDNA tree form to manually enter direct ancestors.

Now that I've also tested via ancestry, I'm considering posting a direct 
ancestor tree there as well. I share the concerns expressed via this thread 
(working files; copy/paste with no research, etc).  

I exported/created a direct ancestor file (abt 225 people; still happily 
using FTM 2011).  Notes are still there, but one suggestion is to post 
without the notes to provide base information for any recognition of 
possible connections.  More details can be shared if/when contacted.

Even what we have on FTDNA does not necessarily remain private.  Ex:  
Contacted a recognized match re my husband.  No response.  During Ancestry 
searches later found that person's Ancestry tree - with all of my husband's 
data from FTDNA incorporated.  

Marsha Stringer
strin...@mstringer.net






 

On Thursday, January 18, 2018 at 11:34:18 PM UTC-5, Pam Santos wrote:
>
> I took down my trees on ancestry because it was private yet now when you 
> search they have all your information in the index no sense of it being 
> private. Some of you had access so If wondering why i removed them. 
>
> Any other place i can upload my trees and be private so others can still 
> view ?
>

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records

[M. Stringer]

Yes, my comment was only re Boston (where all 4 of my grandparents
immigrated).



Interesting to see the Find My Past information as well.



Cheers,



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*Sent:* Monday, June 12, 2017 11:04 AM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records



Yes, but that is only for the Boston Archiocese,  not the rest that will be
on www.findmypast.com.


Rosemarie

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily



On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 12:44 AM, M. Stringer 
wrote:

The scope of coverage is from the NEHGS website



https://www.americanancestors.org/index.aspx





Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Sunday, June 11, 2017 12:27 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records



Right, Marsha. The article in *FamilyTree *magazine did not give any dates
as to what would be covered. I would hope that it would be a little past
1900 but may not. Whatever, it will be more than we have now!


Rosemarie

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily



On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:23 AM, M. Stringer  wrote:

Reminder: The Boston records will cover The Boston Archdiocese parish
records 1789 – 1900.



Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Sunday, June 11, 2017 8:53 AM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records



Thanks for this information, Rosemarie.



On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

I just received my *Family Tree* magazine today (July/August 2017) and
there is some great news! There will be over 100 Million *Catholi*c *Church
Records* available on www.findmypast.com/catholicrecords,  in the coming
months!! The Archdiocese if Philadelphia is already up and searchable with
New York & Baltimore to follow. The Archdiocese of Boston is already being
digitized and will be on www.americanancestors.org which is managed by the
New England Genealogical & Historical Soc. Hopefully other Archdioceses in
the USA will follow suit. They will also be digitizing records from Ireland
& England! This is a great thing for all genealogists.

Many of these records and indexes will be free to search and other will be
available only from the premium search site. The LDS Church has access to
www.findmypast.com but it is the institutional version so the article
doesn't say if the indexes and records will be made available that way.

Keep your eyes open for further news on these records!



Rosemarie

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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records

[M. Stringer]

The scope of coverage is from the NEHGS website



https://www.americanancestors.org/index.aspx





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*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records



Right, Marsha. The article in *FamilyTree *magazine did not give any dates
as to what would be covered. I would hope that it would be a little past
1900 but may not. Whatever, it will be more than we have now!


Rosemarie

rcap...@gmail.com

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Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily



On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 6:23 AM, M. Stringer  wrote:

Reminder: The Boston records will cover The Boston Archdiocese parish
records 1789 – 1900.



Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net


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*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records



Thanks for this information, Rosemarie.



On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

I just received my *Family Tree* magazine today (July/August 2017) and
there is some great news! There will be over 100 Million *Catholi*c *Church
Records* available on www.findmypast.com/catholicrecords,  in the coming
months!! The Archdiocese if Philadelphia is already up and searchable with
New York & Baltimore to follow. The Archdiocese of Boston is already being
digitized and will be on www.americanancestors.org which is managed by the
New England Genealogical & Historical Soc. Hopefully other Archdioceses in
the USA will follow suit. They will also be digitizing records from Ireland
& England! This is a great thing for all genealogists.

Many of these records and indexes will be free to search and other will be
available only from the premium search site. The LDS Church has access to
www.findmypast.com but it is the institutional version so the article
doesn't say if the indexes and records will be made available that way.

Keep your eyes open for further news on these records!



Rosemarie

rcap...@gmail.com

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Catholic Church Records

[M. Stringer]

Reminder: The Boston records will cover The Boston Archdiocese parish
records 1789 – 1900.



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Thanks for this information, Rosemarie.



On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci 
wrote:

I just received my *Family Tree* magazine today (July/August 2017) and
there is some great news! There will be over 100 Million *Catholi*c *Church
Records* available on www.findmypast.com/catholicrecords,  in the coming
months!! The Archdiocese if Philadelphia is already up and searchable with
New York & Baltimore to follow. The Archdiocese of Boston is already being
digitized and will be on www.americanancestors.org which is managed by the
New England Genealogical & Historical Soc. Hopefully other Archdioceses in
the USA will follow suit. They will also be digitizing records from Ireland
& England! This is a great thing for all genealogists.

Many of these records and indexes will be free to search and other will be
available only from the premium search site. The LDS Church has access to
www.findmypast.com but it is the institutional version so the article
doesn't say if the indexes and records will be made available that way.

Keep your eyes open for further news on these records!



Rosemarie

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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] SAN Miguel

[M. Stringer]

Hi Janet,

Wondering if you can find anything more in the US about your grandparents.

*Does their marriage record include the names of their parents?
*Have you looked for them in US Censuses? 1900, 10, 20, 30 have information
about the year of immigration, and citizenship status.
*If they became citizens (or filed papers), their documents would have the
information about when they immigrated, the name of their ship, etc.
*Do you have their deaths and/or obituaries - which could also have
clarifying details?

Best of luck and have a wonderful trip.


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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] SAN Miguel

Yes that is what I am hoping to find. They were married in the US. I have
found a record of that. I have no idea when they emigrated to the US nor the
port of entry. Such a mystery.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES - S. Miguel - Ponta Delgada

[M. Stringer]

Hi Margaret,



Followed the comprehensive responses and checked your link as well.  Always
something to learn.



Cheers,



Marsha Stringer

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*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
Of *Margaret Vicente
*Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 5:43 PM
*To:* azores
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES
- S. Miguel - Ponta Delgada



Hi Marsha,



The Boston side is well known, there's a quite a bit about them on the
internet.  His First wife apparently died in May 23 1773 while others say
1774.



You'll find a bio on them here:



https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Greene-3914



Thank you for the offer but at this point no need to look it up, I'll keep
both dates for now.



Cheers everyone.

Margaret







On Fri, Apr 28, 2017 at 9:48 AM, M. Stringer  wrote:

Hi Margaret,



Not a known person to me.  Any date ranges – to explore civil records,
newspapers, etc in/near Boston/Philadelphia?



Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 9:19 AM
*To:* azores
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES -
S. Miguel - Ponta Delgada



Hello,



Does anyone in the list have a complete list (including deceased children)
of the well known - Thomas Hickling and of his 2nd wife Sarah Faldes? who
lived and died in Ponta Delgada, island of S. Miguel?



Mr. Hickling was from Boston, USA. His 2nd wife was from Philadelphia.
Because they were not Catholics their marriage is not in the Church
records. Hoping some savvy research may be able to help.



I'm also looking for a correct timeline of when his first wife died in
Boston.  Trying to reconcile the the two marriages.



Thank you.



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



I added the mt test, which is definitely Azores.  Will you see it
automatically, or will I need to notify you when the results come in?



Marsha Stringer

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*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA Sale for DNA Day, Thurs,
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES - S. Miguel - Ponta Delgada

[M. Stringer]

Hi Margaret,



Not a known person to me.  Any date ranges – to explore civil records,
newspapers, etc in/near Boston/Philadelphia?



Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Friday, April 28, 2017 9:19 AM
*To:* azores
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] THOMAS HICKLING AND HIS WIFE SARAH FALDES -
S. Miguel - Ponta Delgada



Hello,



Does anyone in the list have a complete list (including deceased children)
of the well known - Thomas Hickling and of his 2nd wife Sarah Faldes? who
lived and died in Ponta Delgada, island of S. Miguel?



Mr. Hickling was from Boston, USA. His 2nd wife was from Philadelphia.
Because they were not Catholics their marriage is not in the Church
records. Hoping some savvy research may be able to help.



I'm also looking for a correct timeline of when his first wife died in
Boston.  Trying to reconcile the the two marriages.



Thank you.



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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread

[M. Stringer]

Hi,

Happy Easter!

Seeing 'massa sevada' reminded me of a Portuguese/Italian/English question
about one of our Easter treats.

My Portuguese grandmother made an Italian pastry (sort of anisette
biscotti). I remember watching as she shaped the dough into intricate
baskets, bunnies, etc.  My question is re what she called it.  It sounds
like (Rishh-kee-lee-ah).  No English translation.  I can't find a word (or
multiple words?) like that in my dictionaries and guessing at random
spelling attempts on Google Translate isn't working.


Marsha Stringer
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To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread


Good for you, Mary.  I bought the massa sevada at the Portuguese bakery!
Happy Easter everyone,, no matter how you got the great bread to eat for
Easter.
Celeste Perry ccgran...@yahoo.com


On Sat, 4/15/17, Mary Bordi  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Happy Easter - Feliz Pascoa thread
 To: azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Saturday, April 15, 2017, 11:18 AM

 Happy Easter all!

 I managed to bake some Easter bread this year. Wish I could  share it will
everyone!

 Mary

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rezendes, Ponta Delgada - trying to track down source of US citizenship grant

[M. Stringer]

Hi Di,



Yet more similarities.



I know my mother spoke of Waldo Avenue frequently, but they were apparently
there only a few years: after a 1923 directory (Beacon St) – down the
street by the 1930 Census (Dimick St).  By 1933 they too were in Arlington
- until the early 1950s, after my grandfather’s death.



When a cousin visited a few years ago went on a photo excursion – finding
and photographing family places.  It’s been a while and I’m not sure if I
captured Waldo Ave.



Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Monday, April 03, 2017 6:25 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rezendes, Ponta Delgada - trying to
track down source of US citizenship grant



hi, Marsha.



oh my goodness! that is so cool!!  my avos lived on the second floor, and
my Dad grew up in that house.  ...when we were little, my sisters & i, with
our parents, lived on the third floor of that very house. have you ever
seen the house?  i will mention it to my mom when i talk to her later on
today; maybe she knows your grandparents...?



(sometimes when i reflect on it, i'm amazed to think about how people move:
my Avó & Avô came all the way from the Azores to live in Somerville...  my
mom's parents came all the way from Ireland... and then when my own mom &
dad decided to move, it was all of *four miles* to Arlington.)



all the best,

di

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rezendes, Ponta Delgada - trying to track down source of US citizenship grant

[M. Stringer]

Hi Diane,



I recognized Waldo Ave and checked this morning:



My grandparents  (Amedeo + Mary Dutra Buonomo) and family resided at 4
Waldo Ave, Somerville, per my grandfather’s 1928 naturalization papers!
Different addresses in 1920/1930 censuses.







Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 1:58 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Rezendes, Ponta Delgada - trying to
track down source of US citizenship grant





*my grandfather: Manuel Rezendes: he is the one who emigrated from the
Azores*

   - The census data I found for him is consistent with what I know - his
   wife, their ages, address (4 Waldo Ave., Somerville, if that is useful).

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] First Identified DNA Match

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri,



That was fast.  Thanks.  That puts my ‘lowish’ numbers in a reasonable
framework.



OK.  Forgot that the numbers go down in a pattern per the generations.
Given the similar (and changing) names I see (or think I see) some
potential for interfamily relationships.



I have a direct-line tree on FTDNA (re-keyed all in the one on the site).
I’d be OK with participating in an ‘all in one ish’ tree if it was a
separate item, but want to keep the ‘working’ tree more trimmed  – too
visually confusing. Wished they left the prior system in place.  Meanwhile,
I add direct line others to my master tree



I was stuck for some while with the lack of typical name patterns and
making no progress.  Here’s how I broke through the block:



Visual Aids (to ‘see’ and ‘sort’ the various spellings)

Created an Excel chart in which I entered each event entry name on a
separate line

Ref

Event

First Name

Middle Name

Last Name

Location Name

Notes

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Jose

Francisco

Dutra



5 Feb 1844, Conceicao, Terceira,  Groom

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Jose

Antonio

Dutra



f/o Jose Francisco; Piedade, Pico Island

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Rita

Candida





m/o Jose Francisco

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Bernarda

Candida





5 Feb 1844, Conceicao, Terceira,  Bride

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Jose



Silveira



f/o Bernarda; Piedade, Pico Island

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Bernarda

Mariana





m/o Bernarda;

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Antonio

Leonardo Pires

Toste



witness, married

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda

Jose

Antonio

Coelho



witness, married



On a separate page, sorted to see the variant entries (edited my file from
Candida to da Conceicao)

Ref

Event

Location Name

First Name

Middle Name

Last Name

Notes

Rep1, #8

Bap Jose Machado



Rita

Candida



mo Jose Francisco

Rep2, #1

Bap Elisia



Rita

da Conceicao



mo Jose Francisco

Rep2, #2

Bap Manoel



Rita

da Conceicao



mo Jose Francisco

Rep4, #3

M Jose + Bernarda



Rita

Candida



m/o Jose Francisco

Rep5, #1

B Jose Francisco Dutra



Rita

da Conceicao



mo Jose, native of Lajes, Pico Island

Rep5, #2

M AntonioDutra Rita



Rita

da Conceicao



19Feb1819, Lajes, Pico Island, Bride

Rep5, #4

D Rita da Conceicao



Rita

da Conceicao



D 24Sep1876, house in Silveira, Lajes, Pico Island; 77, housewife



Created a sub-section to collect unidentified godparents and witnesses.
Pretty sure some/several will turn out to be extended families.



XMatch Chart

Printed the Fan Chart option you suggested, as available in Family
TreeMaker: 6gen; 6 pages; big circle vs fan diagrams on DNA sites



Decided to play with an ancestry chart, using my grandmother as the
starting person.

The result is a  simpler visual – much easier on the eyes; straight/aligned
chart; 6gen from her vs me; 3 pages;

Outlined the XMatch people per the diagrams





Marsha Stringer

strin...@mstringer.net


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*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
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*Sent:* Wednesday, March 01, 2017 12:09 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] First Identified DNA Match



If you are 3C1R on paper, yes, a 55 cM block does support that.

X matches need to be 10 cM or more. Otherwise, it's too far back. You share
5.3 cMs with Pat on the X. So don't bother trying to figure that one out.

You need get Pat's lineage into your tree and upload a new Gedcom to FTDNA.
Link Pat. Although the Parental Matching only goes to 3C right now, you'll
have the 3C1R there ready to go when they expand the Parental Matching
beyond the 3C level.

Cheri


Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

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[AZORES-Genealogy] First Identified DNA Match

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



Finally, an identified match – of course, with questions.  My FTDNA tree is
updated, X-Match chart printed/colored, other visual aids created and now
exploring others’ trees.



The match is to Pat Nostrome (I think part of the project)?  Per FTDNA, the
numbers are: 55 shared CM; 28 longest block; XMatch.  Per comparing our
trees, I found a definite match to my 3xG grandparents, and think Pat and I
are 3rd C, 1xR.  HOWEVER, this connection is not in the XMatch spectrum.
More to be revealed?



The match is to 1793 Antonio DUTRA of Lajes, Pico and his wife, abt 1799
Rita da Conceico (died Lajes, Pico).  My line is their son, 1820 Jose
Francisco DUTRA, b Lajes + his wife, 1826 Bernarda Candida, b Piedade.
(Bernarda’s family offers some XMatch families to pursue).



Jose and Bernarda married in Conceicao, Terceira, 1844, where they
settled/raised their family.  Their son, 1850 Jose Machado DUTRA m 1855
Maria do Carmo Pinheiro.  Her earlier family is fairly solid to Terceira.



FamFinder and XMatch repeat checking:

Verifying I should anticipate an ancestral range of b abt 200 years before
me or matches?  Same general range for XMatch candidates?



Cheers,







Marsha Stringer

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Update RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA: Family Tree DNA's "In Common With"

[M. Stringer]

Greetings,



Orig: Search 1: ‘in Common With’ comparison between husband and male,
identified 4th cousin.

Definitely paternal line to 2xpaternal grandmother, wife of his 2xpaternal
grandfather.

The comparison male of her sister.  The shared ancestors are her parents.



The Xmatch female included in the ‘in common with’ results responded to
email.

She is the niece of the comparison male, thus 4th cousin, 1xRemoved.
Verified paper and DNA



How is the paternal XMatch explained?





Marsha Stringer

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost (Researching husband's family)

[M. Stringer]

Hi Samantha,



Some suggestions re more US searching.  Fellow group members have found
promising leads for you.  You can now try to fact check via US resources to
see if the data corresponds with/supports these new findings.



*On the Passenger List, go to the far right column and see if there is
information about the destination, which could include more family
members.  My grandmother’s info said they were going to stay with her
mother’s sister, gave the name and street address.



*Check the US Censuses for more clues.  1910 included M1 (or 2, etc) and
#yrs married; when to US and the status (Al, Pa, Na), #children b/living
(could verify the known births and/or hint at additional children who d
young); 1920 asks yr immigrated/status; 1930 asks age at 1st marriage, yr
immigrated/status.



*WWI Draft Registration would have age, birthdate

*WWII Draft Registration includes age, place of birth



*Naturalization Papers (Petition and Declaration of Intention) can be
verrry helpful.  My grandfather’s 1926 papers listed my grandmother and all
of their living children/ages as well as his birth location.  My
grandmother’s 1942 papers gave details of my grandfather (birth date,
place; his arrival information and date of naturalization).  Also names of
all of her children, with their birthdates and where they were living in
1942; her exact birth location in the Azores, where she sailed from,
where/when she arrived.



*Explore birth, marriage, death records in the US for additional
information.  Perhaps more challenging is finding US baptismal records.



*Try newspaper searches.  Some are on ancestry.com, newspapers.com,
genealogybank.com .  The different sites have different area papers.



*Try searches for the maybe cousin in the US.



Happy Searching,





Marsha Stringer

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Of *Samantha B
*Sent:* Monday, December 05, 2016 12:17 AM
*To:* Azores Genealogy
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Hello :) New here and a little lost
(Researching husband's family)



Hi Roselyn



Would you mind please also linking the URLs to the documents? I've been
unable to find them online.



Many thanks

Samantha

On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 5:06:28 PM UTC-8, Rose wrote:

Dear Samantha:

I believe the attached Santa Luzia, Casamento records from the island of
Terceira may be the couple you are looking for:  Joaquim Benedicto and
Maria Josefa.  According to the record:

They were married on 2 February 1906 in Santa Luzia.

He is 30 years old from Fontinhas of Terceira living in Santa Luzia.

He is the legitimate son of Benedicto Antonio native of Altares and Maria
Delfina native of Nossa Senhora da Piedade of Pico.

She is 20 years old native of Santa Lusia.

She is the legitimate daughter of Antonio Goncalves Leostinho and Maria
Theodora from Santa Luzia


(Fontinhas - Nossa Senhora da Pena, island of Terceira)

I hope this is the couple you are looking for.  Good Luck

Roselyn Hughes





On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Rosemarie Capodicci > wrote:

Samantha--Sorry it's Benedito (left out and 'e'!).


Rosemarie

rcap...@gmail.com 

Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,

Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily



On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Samantha B >
wrote:

Hi Becky and Cheri



I'm looking for



Joachim Benedicto

Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) about 1876

Died in Sacremento on 1/21/1913



and his wife

Maria Josephine Lestinho

Born in the Azores (there is no US record as to where) 10/6/1886

Died in Sacramento on 4/3/1960



They were already married when they left the Azores to travel to America.
They sailed from "St Michaels: on 3/19/1906 on the SS Brooklyn. There were
no other family members with them on the ship that I can see. All of their
children were born in the US.



I've started going through the March 1906 passport records for Ponta Delgada
hoping to find their names. I'll go forward a bit and look at the whole of
March for that year and back to the start of the year.



Joachim may also have had a cousin Maria Correa (Coria, Corea, Cory) who
also came to the US about the same time. She was born in the Azores on
12/23/1896.



Regards

Samantha





On Sunday, December 4, 2016 at 1:59:38 PM UTC-8, Becky M. wrote:

Samantha,

If you share his name and or the relatives names, someone in this group may
already have information on them. Happens all the time!



On Dec 4, 2016 2:37 PM, "Samantha B"  wrote:

Hi all



I'm building my husband's family tree on ancestry.com. His maternal grand
parents arrived in the US from the Azores in 1908. I have the ship name and
passenger list from Ellis Island but I'm struggling to work out how to get
more information about them from the Azores.



Currently I'm slowly looking through the passports but I don't even know
how long before sailing they would have registered for passports. 

RE: DNA Matches RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri,



Thanks.  Your cM explanation really helps to explain parameters.  I suspect
the lower levels are my ‘target’ generations?



The ‘we’ refers to the cousin (hopefully) who contacted me.  Per paper
research, she is 4th cousin (also verified by DNA [ancestry]) to someone
who is my 6th cousin (paper research).  She and her mother are both also
registered at FTDNA and the ones who are not showing up in my matches.



The paper details are well-documented, and DNA would verify what is ‘known’
(unless a non paternal event is discovered).  Hence the frustration re the
cut-off.





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M. Stringer,

If someone had 57cMs, generally it would be 5th, 6th cousin level. However,
if the longest block within that 57 cMs is pretty large it may move the
prediction up higher. The predictions are made by total cMs AND the longest
block. Don't ask me for their algorithms, I don't know. If they suggest
4th-6th cousins, start at 4th, but don't be surprised if it turns out to be
6th or 7th. They can NOT predict human nature. We marry cousins. So the
predictions are generally off.

Yes, the cutoff seems annoying (especially if you have the paper trail to
prove it, or if you are working on a theory), but a line needs be drawn in
the sand somewhere. Otherwise, they will include too many false positives
and you'll have to be rooting among the weeds.

You didn't define "we." No clue what you are talking about.

Joining more projects doesn't tell you what is or isn't there. Joining
projects is like many people pooling their resources together. After a
while, the project admins will start to see family clusters and will be
able to assist newcomers in finding their island or freguesia. There's a
host of other reasons too.


Cheri Mello
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RE: DNA Matches RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri,



Thanks for your patience explaining – and re-explaining.



Each of my grandparents immigrated, from four different countries.  I’m one
quarter Portuguese, via my maternal grandmother.  It’s unlikely that I’d be
able to influence near relatives to test – I’m the only researcher in our
family.



Does the lower, 57ish cM just mean more distantly related?  More like 4th/5
th/further cousins?  The FTDNA cutoff is frustrating.  We’re thinking about
finding a project we could both join and perhaps the project can see and
tell us what is/isn’t there.  Why more meaningful for Portuguese – the
quantity of participants?



I’m finding plenty of intermarriage in all backgrounds.  My own English
quarter includes one couple who are my 6xGgrandparents via three of their
children.  FTM says I’m myself and my own 5th and 7th cousin.  If the
couple turns out be 1st cousins (as strongly suspected), I’m also my own 8th
and 9th cousin.



Thanks,



Marsha Stringer

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Marsha,

The conference did this computer in. My monitor is going out so I'll be
brief.

I don't know how much Portuguese you are in theory (half, quarter, etc).
But 57 cMs for a Portuguese person isn't a good starting point. Start with
100 cMs or more. Try to get siblings and cousins to test if possible. They
could have a missing piece to the jigsaw puzzle that you don't have.

I'm not going to go into your husband's English matches. He's probably not
endogamous (has intermarriage in his tree).



Yes, FTDNA has a threshold for reporting their matches. So if you want to
go outside their parameters, download your raw data and upload it to
GedMatch and play with their tools. You will be comparing yourself to those
who chose to upload to GedMatch. So you won't get the same matches there
either. Kinda like some stores carry different brands of things. NOTE: Your
DNA info will be out there in the Internet for anyone to see who chooses to
make a GedMatch account.

Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Attending the Azores Conference and Joao Ventura

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



I first ‘met’ Joao abt 2002 via the Rootsweb list, when I began researching
my grandmother’s family.  He’s outstanding.



Cheers,



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*Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 7:35 PM
*To:* Azores Genealogy
*Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Attending the Azores Conference and Joao
Ventura



Hello: I have been an member of this group for sometime but have never
taken the opportunity to post. I finally have a good reason.



I was one of the fortunate few who was able to attend the Azores Genealogy
Conference this past week. This was my third time attending as I live in
Utah. I want to thank Cheri and Rosemarie for the outstanding job they
always do with the entire conference. Everything is arranged so well and
the sessions are so good. I invited my cousin to attend for the first time
and she got a lot out of it. It was wonderful to meet almost 40 of you who
attended. It was a great experience over all.



One tidbit that really helped me was Cheri's and Rosemarie's suggestion
that for $20 we could get Joao Ventura (the genealogist not the gearhead)
to find a document. I don't know why I hadn't used his research services in
the past! I had one great-grandfather that I had not been able to make the
leap to the Azores (I'm full blooded Azorean).



Within a half hour of emailing Joao, he responded that he had found the
family and was prepared to provide the documents from whomever I wanted. So
I requested 4 documents ($80) and he sent them early in the morning US time
the very next day. I was overwhelmed with joy! I had looked for these
people for years and years. I had 17 US sources for them but none listed
the Azores' city. Joao was able to search his database and found them in
Sao Miguel. I didn't know his database extended to that island.



He provides not only the documents but a transcription in Portuguese as
well as a summary in English. It was so amazing! I just can't say enough
about Joao and his work, especially the speed at which he is able to work
because of so many years of entering data. I highly recommend him and am
grateful to Cheri and Rosemarie for doing so.



I can read the Portuguese records pretty well and would be glad to help out
with some basic translation, though I'm sure that there are others here who
can do better. Thanks for providing this great resource.

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DNA Matches RE: [AZORES-Genealogy]

[M. Stringer]

Hi,



A DNA/FTDNA set of questions.  Still trying to understand match meanings.
Any response can wait until home and settled after the conference : )



Does ‘not strong’, mean just more distant? As 5th/6th, etc. cousins?  Or
match low because beyond a certain number of years (as shared ancestor from
200+ years before our births)?



Of my 432 FamilyFinder matches, the highest is 57 shared cM. No identified
matches.

Of my husband’s 1500+ FamilyFinder matches, the highest is 107 shared cM
(known 3rd Csn 1R); another (6th highest match), at 64 shared cM (believed 5
th Csn 1R).  So, lowish numbers for identifiable relationships.





Example:

>From 15 years of paper research (England), one person is paper-trail
verified my 6th cousin (shared ancestors 1st cousins b 1745 and 1754).  He
tested via ancestry.  Recent email from others (of our ‘known’ shared
family) who matched him via ancestry said she/her mother also transferred
their findings to FTDNA.  They are not in my list of matches.



Customer Service at FTDNA said their results could be ‘outside FTDNA
parameters’ and that even with knowing kit numbers, there is no manual way
to connect/see one another.





Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 11:34 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with baptism translation please.
searching for Maria Theresa Maciel, Pico



Susan,

Sorry, to tell you, but 60ish cMs is NOT a strong DNA match. The most two
people can share in common is in the 3000 range. 60ish pales in comparison.
You'll need a really good paper trail to make 60ish cMs pan out. Those
matches need more work. Start with 100+ cMs or more to have success in
working with DNA.


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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Faulha from Sao Miguel Azores.

[M. Stringer]

If Rick means to check US Censuses for where they might be in MA, then
include the Boston area – particularly Cambridge and Somerville.  My
grandmother and family arrived 1904, New Bedford, destination family in
Cambridge.



I learned of Azores Passports from messages on this list.  With the date of
their arrival, I was able to scroll through the Azores Passport records and
find them.



Oh, re the censuses: be verrry flexible re their names.  It took years to
find my family in the 1910 census = they were indexed as Duldra & Buinima
vs Dutra & Buonomo.



Best of luck,



Marsha Stringer

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*Sent:* Tuesday, September 06, 2016 7:59 AM
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*Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Faulha from Sao Miguel Azores.



*Nelia,*



*The first thing I would do is to check the US Census after they were
married. You can most likely narrow it down to New Bedford, MA or Bristol
County. Try Family Search and be flexible on their name try several
combinations or just last name. Once you find them see if it gives their
ages and the year they immigrated.  Next look at the Ellis Island records
(try combinations with names also) to see if they are there for their
arrival. This will tell you about where to search in the Azores Passport
records which will give you the town they are from.*



*I have found many Rego Baldaia in the Ribeira Grande Area.*





*Rick*



*Richard Francis Pimentel*

*Epping**, NH*



*Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*







*From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf
Of *Nelia DiBiase
*Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2016 9:43 PM
*To:* azores@googlegroups.com
*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Faulha from Sao Miguel Azores.



It's just getting difficult to find the baptism records because although I
know where my grand parents ended up I can't seem to find how they got to
Capelas. I'm having difficulty finding any records. It's likely that they
were registered in another parish. Yikes it's like looking for a needle in
a haystack.

Nelia



On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 9:23 PM JR  wrote:

Most of the Rego's and Baldaia's are related. But you have to go back step
by step to see if it really materializes. You will link up with many
others, but usually not until about the mid 1700's -1800. Unless you have a
more near direct relation.



Good luck.



JR



On Monday, September 5, 2016 at 7:38:28 PM UTC-4, Richard Francis Pimentel
wrote:

*One of my 9th Great Grandfathers is Ignacio do Rego Baldaia born around
1609. He lived in Ribeira Grande. He married Maria Alveres Senra around
1634.*



*Rick*



*Richard Francis Pimentel*

*Epping**, NH*



*Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*







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] *On Behalf Of *Nelia DiBiase


*Sent:* Monday, September 5, 2016 6:47 PM

*To:* azo...@googlegroups.com


*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Surname Faulha from Sao Miguel Azores.



I didn't post a record because I can't find any of the birth registries.

I found my great grand parent's marriage records on Ancestry as they were
married in the Fall River.
They are

Carolina Do Rego and Antonio Bento Torres.

Carolina's mother was "Maria do Rego Faulha I think it's the other way
around. And should be Maria Faulha do Rego (do rego married name)

Her father was Manuel do rego.

Antonio Bento Torres parent's are listed on ancestry as Jose B and Maria da
Gloria Baldaia.

I can't find the records probably because I'm looking in the wrong parish.
I've been searching in Capelas and Sao Vicente Sao Miguel.

Carolina Birth year Aprox 1877 and Antonio (1873)

What is interesting is that I saw that Eliseu in this forum stated in a
post that both Baldaia and Do Rego are his relatives.

If anyone has any of these in your line please let me know!

Thanks and enjoy the rest of your long weekend!

Nelia



On Mon, Sep 5, 2016 at 6:38 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

No link to the record was posted. Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA "Basics" question

[M. Stringer]

Hi Cheri,



Thanks for your patient help.  I think you’ve supported the FTDNA
suggestion: Y-DNA 37 is a reasonable place to start for males, coupled with
Family Finder.  Then, as you explained, people can go back and purchase
upgrades as needed/wanted over time - especially when on sale : ).



I did spend more time going through FamilyFinder matches, and found 11
pertinent surname matches leading to the sought after ancestor.  So, in
this instance, probably a lack of direct males testing via Y-DNA.



FYI, suspect a website glitch:  when searching from the main FamilyFinder
Results page, just 2 surname matches were found.  The other matches were
revealed when searching trees attached to individuals within the master
list. (I had saved emails re prior searches and was able to ‘re-find’ the
additional ‘hits’ – this time making a master list of them.)





Marsha Stringer

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*Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA "Basics" question



Marsha,Either his Stringer family has not tested or this would be the case
of an NPE (Non-Paternal Event, but I prefer to call it Not the Parent
Expected).

Cheri Mello

Family Tree DNA Admin (volunteer)


Cheri Mello
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] DNA "Basics" question

[M. Stringer]

Cheri,



I ‘think’ my question is re what going from YDNA 37 to 67, etc reveals; how
it helps/works re distant ancestry.  I ‘think’ from our limited
explorations, that I’d recommend both YDNA and FamilyFinder for males.



The example is my husband, so not Azores; hopefully on-topic within the
‘Basics’ category.



He’s taken the FamilyFinder and YDNA 37 tests.  The ‘37’ level was
suggested by FTDNA in a phone call at the time of the order.

The particular quest for him is a STRINGER male, b abt 1698 (5xG gfa; abt
250 yrs earlier).  This in seeking definition amongst 3 known lines in the
same area, same approximate times (other 2 lines documented earlier 1600s;
no paper trail to connect any of the three [although many online trees have
copy/pasted some incorrectly together]).

We considered an upgrade to 67 (also inquired about yet higher), but again,
the folks at FTDNA indicated increasing the markers would not help re
searching that far back.  (At least, that’s what I thought they said.)



YDNA Matches:

Not one (37- or 25- or 12-marker level) includes the family name; if names
and/or earliest ancestor included in match name lists or trees, more recent
than our information.



Family Finder:

Trolling through associated trees of others did show some potential matches
– and some of those ‘match’ trees include ancestors of the other two lines
we’re searching.  (Yes wrote; no responses)







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Maria Elena,

There is no kit in the Azores DNA project under your email address. So I
can't answer your question with 100% certainity without seeing the tree
attached to the kit and which test(s) were done.

Once FTDNA runs a test (any test), they store the vials for at least 25
years. No, the results from one test can't be used for another, but the
vials can be pulled and a different type of DNA test run from those vials.

If your husband's father's father's father's father was Sebastiao Jacome de
Resendes (The top of his pedigree chart), then log into your husband's DNA
page, look for the blue UPGRADE button towards the upper right corner,
click it, and look for YDNA 37 or 67. You can do 111 if it's in your
budget. The Y37 or Y67 will get you into a genealogical time frame. You
could always order less markers and add on more later.


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[AZORES-Genealogy] DUTRA/SILVEIRA fm Terceira/Lajes, Piedade Pico and PINHEIRO, FERREIRA (or MOULES fm Sco Mateus/Santa Barbara, Terceira

[M. Stringer]

Greetings,

I'm new to this list (and GGroups and new to DNA researching.  I've 
recently joined the Azores DNA group (FamilyFinder test).

My grandmother immigrated to Boston from Angra do Heroismo, Terceira  in 
1904, with her mother and three siblings. Another sibling and maternal aunt 
immigrated earlier.


GMother's Paternal Family
My grandmother's paternal grandparents married 5Feb1844 in Conceicao, 
Terceira.

What I know of them comes from their marriage record, her birth record and 
baptisms of their children/grandchildren.

Jose Francisco DUTRA (of Lajes, Pico) + Bernarda Candida (b 25Mar1826 in 
Piedade, Pico)

Jose s/o Jose Antonio DUTRA + Rita Candida

Bernarda d/o Jose SILVEIRA; (s/o Jose SILVEIRA + Maria Josefa)
   + Bernarda Marianna (d/o Lino ANTONIO + Perpetua Maria) 

GMother's Maternal Family
My grandmother's mother was b 10Aug1855; bap Sco Mateus, Terceira. 

She was d/o Francisco Nunes PINHEIRO (of Sco Mateus) + Maria Julia (of 
Santa Barbara).  They were m in Sco Mateus, but I do not have that record.

Francisco was s/o Manoel Nunes de Barcelo [without PINHEIRO] + Luzia do 
Carmo
[Note: Francisco's brother/sister godparents to some children, definitely 
as PINHEIRO]

Maria Julia was d/o Antonio Ferreira MOULES [or Moules FERREIRA] + Fabiana 
Julia.
[Note: Antonio written as Ferreira MOULES, BUT his children recorded as 
FERREIRA when godparents to nieces/nephews]

Does anyone recognize these families?  

Regards,
Marsha Stringer
 

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