RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Bride's parents' names in oldAltares marriage

[doreencaetano]

Thanks. 

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From: Cheri Mello
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oldAltares marriage

I think the bride is the daughter of Pedro Martins (looks like Polo Miz) and 
his wife, Ursula Coelho. We need a second set of eyes.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:45 PM  wrote:
I have the names of the groom and his parents but need help reading the names 
of the bride’s parents. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P62.html
It is on the bottom of the left side. His is Joao Borges Homem’s first marriage 
(aka Joao Rebelo in hi next marriage). I can not make out the parent’s name due 
to abbreviations and faded page. Maybe someone that is more familiar with the 
old style of writing can make it out? 
Thanks for your help,
Doreen Caetano
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Bride's parents' names in old Altares marriage

[Cheri Mello]

I think the bride is the daughter of Pedro Martins (looks like Polo Miz)
and his wife, Ursula Coelho. We need a second set of eyes.
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Sat, Jul 27, 2019 at 3:45 PM  wrote:

> I have the names of the groom and his parents but need help reading the
> names of the bride’s parents.
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P62.html
>
> It is on the bottom of the left side. His is Joao Borges Homem’s first
> marriage (aka Joao Rebelo in hi next marriage). I can not make out the
> parent’s name due to abbreviations and faded page. Maybe someone that is
> more familiar with the old style of writing can make it out?
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Doreen Caetano
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Bride's parents' names in old Altares marriage

[doreencaetano]

I have the names of the groom and his parents but need help reading the names 
of the bride’s parents. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P62.html
It is on the bottom of the left side. His is Joao Borges Homem’s first marriage 
(aka Joao Rebelo in hi next marriage). I can not make out the parent’s name due 
to abbreviations and faded page. Maybe someone that is more familiar with the 
old style of writing can make it out? 
Thanks for your help,
Doreen Caetano

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading part of the Altares Baptism referencing the godparents

[doreencaetano]

I have most of the information from Francisca (Ignacia) baptism record. Her 
parents are Joam Martins Gil and Maria do Espirito Santo. I’m trying to get the 
information about the godparents. I have Manuel Martins Gil and Theresa de 
Jesus, children  of Antonio Martins ? and his wife Maria Nunes. The record 
is on the lower left side of the page.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1723-1745/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1723-1745_item1/P140.html
Thank you, Doreen Caetano


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help figuring out if 2 couples are the same - Medeiros/Manteiga - Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel

[Leonor Bertoni]

I did that and did not find anything! I may need a break!

Leonor

On Wed, 10 Apr 2019 at 20:08, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Hi Leonor,
>
> Emigration leaving the Azores is here on the Tombo.pt site (which will
> link you back to the CCA): https://tombo.pt/d/acores
> Scroll down to the Ponta Delgada section and pick the book that contains
> 1883.
> Happy hunting,
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 5:02 PM  wrote:
>
>> Hi Cheri,
>> Thank you so much. This pretty much backs up what I have.
>>
>> I have never done any research on anyone leaving the Azores. Where do I
>> find this information? Ship manifests and all that, is there a database?
>>
>> Leonor
>>
>> On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:32:54 UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Leonor,
>>>
>>> I have to get going, so I don't have time to think about your evidence.
>>> But I can do a quick look up from the Hawaii end.
>>>
>>> Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
>>> Isles 1879-1883 by Bob De Mello. Page 217
>>> Manuel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, son of Boaventura de Medeiros and Joana
>>> Candida, from Rosario, Lagoa
>>> wife Maria da Conceicao, 35, dau. of Jose d'Oliveira and Joana Emilia.
>>> No place given
>>> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6. All born Rosario, Lagoa. On the
>>> Bell Rock
>>>
>>> Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. Page
>>> 276
>>> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, Bell Rock 1883, with Maria da
>>> Conceicao, 35, wife
>>> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6, Manoel 3, Jose 5 months
>>>
>>> Both books transcribed by humans and people can and do make mistakes
>>> (Bob De Mello's book has the mistake with the missing children; however, he
>>> gives the parents' names whereas Knowlton does not).
>>> Cheri Mello
>>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira
>>> Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:51 AM  wrote:
>>>
 Hi,
 I came across a passenger list for Hawaii. I believe the family on
 there are my family but the wife has a different name. Here is my evidence:

 Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga April 27, 1849
 Maria da Gloria about 1848
 Married on May 11, 1872

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879_item1/P62.html
 Groom's parents: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
 Bride's parents: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia

 Children:
 Maria - Mar. 29 1872
 Parents are listed as: Manoel Medeiros/Maria da Conceicao
 Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna de Jesus
 Mat: Jose de Medeiros Zangao/Anna de Jesus

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P151.html

 Ricarda - Oct. 26 1874
 Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
 Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
 Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P340.html

 Maria - Jan. 16, 1877
 Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
 Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
 Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna de Jesus

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P488.html

 Manoel - Dec. 30, 1879
 Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
 Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
 Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881_item1/P6.html

 Jose - Oct. 19, 1882
 Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
 Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
 Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia

 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888_item1/P121.html

 The only information on the passenger list from 1883 is:

 [image: Screen Shot 2019-04-10 at 12.40.11 PM.png]








 So Manoel would have been born on approximately 1850
 Maria da Conceicao - approx. 1848
 Maria - approx. 1873
 Ricarda - approx. 1875
 Manoel - approx. 1880
 Maria - approx. 1877
 Jose - approx. 1883

 Only once does the mother show as Maria da Conceicao on the children's
 baptismal records. The ages are all pretty close, down to the manifest wife
 being older than the husband. I have not found any other records that would
 match this manifest. I do have another Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga in my
 tree and he is married to a Maria 

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help figuring out if 2 couples are the same - Medeiros/Manteiga - Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel

[Cheri Mello]

Hi Leonor,

Emigration leaving the Azores is here on the Tombo.pt site (which will link
you back to the CCA): https://tombo.pt/d/acores
Scroll down to the Ponta Delgada section and pick the book that contains
1883.
Happy hunting,
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 5:02 PM  wrote:

> Hi Cheri,
> Thank you so much. This pretty much backs up what I have.
>
> I have never done any research on anyone leaving the Azores. Where do I
> find this information? Ship manifests and all that, is there a database?
>
> Leonor
>
> On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:32:54 UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> Hi Leonor,
>>
>> I have to get going, so I don't have time to think about your evidence.
>> But I can do a quick look up from the Hawaii end.
>>
>> Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich
>> Isles 1879-1883 by Bob De Mello. Page 217
>> Manuel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, son of Boaventura de Medeiros and Joana
>> Candida, from Rosario, Lagoa
>> wife Maria da Conceicao, 35, dau. of Jose d'Oliveira and Joana Emilia. No
>> place given
>> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6. All born Rosario, Lagoa. On the
>> Bell Rock
>>
>> Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. Page
>> 276
>> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, Bell Rock 1883, with Maria da Conceicao,
>> 35, wife
>> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6, Manoel 3, Jose 5 months
>>
>> Both books transcribed by humans and people can and do make mistakes (Bob
>> De Mello's book has the mistake with the missing children; however, he
>> gives the parents' names whereas Knowlton does not).
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:51 AM  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> I came across a passenger list for Hawaii. I believe the family on there
>>> are my family but the wife has a different name. Here is my evidence:
>>>
>>> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga April 27, 1849
>>> Maria da Gloria about 1848
>>> Married on May 11, 1872
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879_item1/P62.html
>>> Groom's parents: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>> Bride's parents: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>
>>> Children:
>>> Maria - Mar. 29 1872
>>> Parents are listed as: Manoel Medeiros/Maria da Conceicao
>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna de Jesus
>>> Mat: Jose de Medeiros Zangao/Anna de Jesus
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P151.html
>>>
>>> Ricarda - Oct. 26 1874
>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P340.html
>>>
>>> Maria - Jan. 16, 1877
>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna de Jesus
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P488.html
>>>
>>> Manoel - Dec. 30, 1879
>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881_item1/P6.html
>>>
>>> Jose - Oct. 19, 1882
>>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888_item1/P121.html
>>>
>>> The only information on the passenger list from 1883 is:
>>>
>>> [image: Screen Shot 2019-04-10 at 12.40.11 PM.png]
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So Manoel would have been born on approximately 1850
>>> Maria da Conceicao - approx. 1848
>>> Maria - approx. 1873
>>> Ricarda - approx. 1875
>>> Manoel - approx. 1880
>>> Maria - approx. 1877
>>> Jose - approx. 1883
>>>
>>> Only once does the mother show as Maria da Conceicao on the children's
>>> baptismal records. The ages are all pretty close, down to the manifest wife
>>> being older than the husband. I have not found any other records that would
>>> match this manifest. I do have another Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga in my
>>> tree and he is married to a Maria da Conceicao, however, her parents are
>>> Jacinto Carvalho and Jacintha de Jesus and he was born in 1823.  In this
>>> case, Boaventura only has one son by the name of Manoel (as far as I have
>>> researched).  Thoughts?
>>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help figuring out if 2 couples are the same - Medeiros/Manteiga - Rosario, Lagoa, Sao Miguel

[leonor . bertoni]

Hi Cheri,
Thank you so much. This pretty much backs up what I have.

I have never done any research on anyone leaving the Azores. Where do I 
find this information? Ship manifests and all that, is there a database?

Leonor

On Wednesday, 10 April 2019 13:32:54 UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Hi Leonor,
>
> I have to get going, so I don't have time to think about your evidence. 
> But I can do a quick look up from the Hawaii end.
>
> Passport Registrations: Portuguese Immigrants from Azores to Sandwich 
> Isles 1879-1883 by Bob De Mello. Page 217
> Manuel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, son of Boaventura de Medeiros and Joana 
> Candida, from Rosario, Lagoa
> wife Maria da Conceicao, 35, dau. of Jose d'Oliveira and Joana Emilia. No 
> place given
> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6. All born Rosario, Lagoa. On the 
> Bell Rock
>
> Portuguese Immigrants to Hawaii compiled by Edgar C. Knowlton, Jr. Page 276
> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga, 33, Bell Rock 1883, with Maria da Conceicao, 
> 35, wife
> Children: Maria 10, Ricarda 8, Maria 6, Manoel 3, Jose 5 months
>
> Both books transcribed by humans and people can and do make mistakes (Bob 
> De Mello's book has the mistake with the missing children; however, he 
> gives the parents' names whereas Knowlton does not).
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 9:51 AM > wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I came across a passenger list for Hawaii. I believe the family on there 
>> are my family but the wife has a different name. Here is my evidence:
>>
>> Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga April 27, 1849
>> Maria da Gloria about 1848
>> Married on May 11, 1872 
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-C-1870-1879_item1/P62.html
>> Groom's parents: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Bride's parents: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> Children:
>> Maria - Mar. 29 1872 
>> Parents are listed as: Manoel Medeiros/Maria da Conceicao
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna de Jesus
>> Mat: Jose de Medeiros Zangao/Anna de Jesus
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P151.html
>>
>> Ricarda - Oct. 26 1874
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P340.html
>>
>> Maria - Jan. 16, 1877
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna de Jesus
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1870-1879_item1/P488.html
>>
>> Manoel - Dec. 30, 1879
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1880-1881_item1/P6.html
>>
>> Jose - Oct. 19, 1882
>> Parents: Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga/Maria da Gloria
>> Pat: Boaventura de Medeiros/Joanna Candida
>> Mat: Jose d'Oliveira Zangao/Joanna Emilia
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1882-1888_item1/P121.html
>>
>> The only information on the passenger list from 1883 is:
>>
>> [image: Screen Shot 2019-04-10 at 12.40.11 PM.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> So Manoel would have been born on approximately 1850
>> Maria da Conceicao - approx. 1848
>> Maria - approx. 1873
>> Ricarda - approx. 1875
>> Manoel - approx. 1880
>> Maria - approx. 1877
>> Jose - approx. 1883
>>
>> Only once does the mother show as Maria da Conceicao on the children's 
>> baptismal records. The ages are all pretty close, down to the manifest wife 
>> being older than the husband. I have not found any other records that would 
>> match this manifest. I do have another Manoel de Medeiros Manteiga in my 
>> tree and he is married to a Maria da Conceicao, however, her parents are 
>> Jacinto Carvalho and Jacintha de Jesus and he was born in 1823.  In this 
>> case, Boaventura only has one son by the name of Manoel (as far as I have 
>> researched).  Thoughts? 
>>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help: Santa Barbara, Santa Maria; 2nd marriage

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Thanks for this Cheri.  The site is down now but; once it is back up I’ll look 
for her death.  Wish this record showed his parents.  I’m trying to find the 
dna connection to someone and I think it is this line.

Thanks again and Happy New Year,

Sam (Mazatlán, MX)

From: Cheri Mello
Sent: Thursday, December 27, 2018 10:05 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help: Santa Barbara, Santa Maria; 2nd 
marriage

He's the widow of Dona Antonia Caetano, buried in the church of the religious 
Franciscans on the 27 Nov 1829...then I think it goes on to say where to find 
it in the death book. 

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Thu, Dec 27, 2018 at 9:00 AM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1789-1844/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1789-1844_item1/P79.html
 
Need help please.  Right hand side:  Jose Manoel Soares 2nd marriage to Dona 
Jacinta Flora de Figueiredo.  It gives his 1st wife’s name, Dona Antonia ??.  
Does it say she entered a nunnery?  I’m very  confused by all the names and 
dates.  Any help is much appreciated
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help: Santa Barbara, Santa Maria; 2nd marriage

[Cheri Mello]

He's the widow of Dona Antonia Caetano, buried in the church of the
religious Franciscans on the 27 Nov 1829...then I think it goes on to say
where to find it in the death book.
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> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1789-1844/SMA-VP-SANTABARBARA-C-1789-1844_item1/P79.html
>
>
>
> Need help please.  Right hand side:  Jose Manoel Soares 2nd marriage to
> Dona Jacinta Flora de Figueiredo.  It gives his 1st wife’s name, Dona
> Antonia ??.  Does it say she entered a nunnery?  I’m very  confused by all
> the names and dates.  Any help is much appreciated
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Need help please.  Right hand side:  Jose Manoel Soares 2nd marriage to Dona 
Jacinta Flora de Figueiredo.  It gives his 1st wife’s name, Dona Antonia ??.  
Does it say she entered a nunnery?  I’m very  confused by all the names and 
dates.  Any help is much appreciated

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this marriage record.

[Philippe GARNIER]

Hi Doreen,

Joao Rodrigues Monteiro, son of *other with the same name* and Dona
Marianna Victornia, marrying Dona Maria Eugenia, daughter of Dionisio Jose
Leal and Francisca Victornia, natural *and baptized"os Contrahentes" in
this parish.*

Abs

Philippe Garnier
Paria - France
http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira


Le ven. 21 déc. 2018 à 19:50,  a écrit :

> Let side of the page
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-C-1836-1860/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-C-1836-1860_item1/P62.html
>
> I’m reading as Joao Rodrigues Monteiro, son of  and Dona Marianna
> Victornia, marrying Dona Maria Eugenia, daughter of Dionisio Jose Leal and
> Francisca Victornia, natural to ?
>
>
>
> Now already in my database it Dionisio Jose Leal married to Francisca
> Victornia  Caetano Andrade having a daughter named Maria Eugenia (like
> above) born 1832.
>
> Can you help me with the ???
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> Thanks. Doreen
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this marriage record.

[doreencaetano]

Let side of the page
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-C-1836-1860/TER-PV-FONTINHAS-C-1836-1860_item1/P62.html
I’m reading as Joao Rodrigues Monteiro, son of  and Dona Marianna 
Victornia, marrying Dona Maria Eugenia, daughter of Dionisio Jose Leal and 
Francisca Victornia, natural to ?

Now already in my database it Dionisio Jose Leal married to Francisca Victornia 
 Caetano Andrade having a daughter named Maria Eugenia (like above) born 1832. 
Can you help me with the ???
Thanks. Doreen
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading Altares marriage record

[doreencaetano]

I need help reading the bride’s parents names and where they were from. I 
believe the father is from Lajes, Terceira but I can not read his name. Is it 
Manuel (maybe Coelho from marriage index) or Mateus (maybe Ferreira from 
marriage index)? The record is on the left side of the page. I can not make out 
the date of the marriage either.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P116.html
Thank you. Doreen Caetano


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.

[Shirley Allegre]

Sam it looks like the parents of the bride were Francisco Furtado de _  X 
_ Gomes.
Hope your eye surgery goes great.
Shirley in CA
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  From: 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
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  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.


  Need help please:  Bottom left and over to top right.  I think this is the 
marriage of Joao de Medeiros and Maria Furtado on 4 Feb. 1709.  His parents 
were Manuel Rodrigues de Almanca and Maria de Medeiros.  I’m having some eye 
problems right now.  Need a cataract operation.  Can sks please tell me if this 
is the correct document and do I have the information correct?  Anything else 
of note?

   

  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P85.html
 

   

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

JR and Cheri;  Thank you both for your help.  I continue to try to put this 
line together.

Sam (Camas, WA)

From: JR
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:33 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.


Forgot to attach link:

June 27- 1677, Pedro Miguel, (bottom right page record) Manoel Rodrigues filho 
de Pedro Alvernas and Domingas Rodrigues com Maria de Mideiros filha de Pedro 
Saramento, defunto, and Barbara Andre, (residents of Pedro Miguel)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P22.html

JR

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
Yes the name is Serpa. Can't add much more. But here is one record that appears 
to parents of Manuel Rodrigues:

June 27- 1677, Pedro Miguel, (bottom right page record) Manoel Rodrigues filho 
de Pedro Alvernas and Domingas Rodrigues com Maria de Mideiros filha de Pedro 
Saramento, defunto, and Barbara Andre, (residents of Pedro Miguel)

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 12:30:50 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
I cannot tell the name of the mother of the groom. It's torn.
Bride's parents are Francisco Furtado de Something (Serpa?) and Maria or Anna 
Gomes. I"m not sure on that. Hopefully someone else will chime in. Cheri
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:24 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
Need help please:  Bottom left and over to top right.  I think this is the 
marriage of Joao de Medeiros and Maria Furtado on 4 Feb. 1709.  His parents 
were Manuel Rodrigues de Almanca and Maria de Medeiros.  I’m having some eye 
problems right now.  Need a cataract operation.  Can sks please tell me if this 
is the correct document and do I have the information correct?  Anything else 
of note?
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P85.html
 
 
Many thanks,
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.

[JR]

Forgot to attach link:

June 27- 1677, Pedro Miguel, (bottom right page record) Manoel Rodrigues 
filho de Pedro Alvernas and Domingas Rodrigues com Maria de Mideiros filha 
de Pedro Saramento, defunto, and Barbara Andre, (residents of Pedro Miguel)

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P22.html

JR

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 2:29:16 PM UTC-4, JR wrote:
>
> Yes the name is Serpa. Can't add much more. But here is one record that 
> appears to parents of Manuel Rodrigues:
>
> June 27- 1677, Pedro Miguel, (bottom right page record) Manoel Rodrigues 
> filho de Pedro Alvernas and Domingas Rodrigues com Maria de Mideiros filha 
> de Pedro Saramento, defunto, and Barbara Andre, (residents of Pedro Miguel)
>
> On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 12:30:50 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>>
>> I cannot tell the name of the mother of the groom. It's torn.
>> Bride's parents are Francisco Furtado de Something (Serpa?) and Maria or 
>> Anna Gomes. I"m not sure on that. Hopefully someone else will chime in. 
>> Cheri
>> Cheri Mello
>> Listowner, Azores-Gen
>> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
>> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:24 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
>> azo...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Need help please:  Bottom left and over to top right.  I think this is 
>>> the marriage of Joao de Medeiros and Maria Furtado on 4 Feb. 1709.  His 
>>> parents were Manuel Rodrigues de Almanca and Maria de Medeiros.  I’m having 
>>> some eye problems right now.  Need a cataract operation.  Can sks please 
>>> tell me if this is the correct document and do I have the information 
>>> correct?  Anything else of note?
>>>
>>>  
>>>
>>>
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P85.html
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>>>
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>>>
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>>>
>>> Sam (Camas, WA)
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.

[JR]

Yes the name is Serpa. Can't add much more. But here is one record that 
appears to parents of Manuel Rodrigues:

June 27- 1677, Pedro Miguel, (bottom right page record) Manoel Rodrigues 
filho de Pedro Alvernas and Domingas Rodrigues com Maria de Mideiros filha 
de Pedro Saramento, defunto, and Barbara Andre, (residents of Pedro Miguel)

On Saturday, October 27, 2018 at 12:30:50 AM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> I cannot tell the name of the mother of the groom. It's torn.
> Bride's parents are Francisco Furtado de Something (Serpa?) and Maria or 
> Anna Gomes. I"m not sure on that. Hopefully someone else will chime in. 
> Cheri
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 26, 2018 at 7:24 PM 'Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Need help please:  Bottom left and over to top right.  I think this is 
>> the marriage of Joao de Medeiros and Maria Furtado on 4 Feb. 1709.  His 
>> parents were Manuel Rodrigues de Almanca and Maria de Medeiros.  I’m having 
>> some eye problems right now.  Need a cataract operation.  Can sks please 
>> tell me if this is the correct document and do I have the information 
>> correct?  Anything else of note?
>>
>>  
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P85.html
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Sam (Camas, WA)
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.

[Cheri Mello]

I cannot tell the name of the mother of the groom. It's torn.
Bride's parents are Francisco Furtado de Something (Serpa?) and Maria or
Anna Gomes. I"m not sure on that. Hopefully someone else will chime in.
Cheri
Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada


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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Need help please:  Bottom left and over to top right.  I think this is the
> marriage of Joao de Medeiros and Maria Furtado on 4 Feb. 1709.  His parents
> were Manuel Rodrigues de Almanca and Maria de Medeiros.  I’m having some
> eye problems right now.  Need a cataract operation.  Can sks please tell me
> if this is the correct document and do I have the information correct?
> Anything else of note?
>
>
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P85.html
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>
> Sam (Camas, WA)
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help Fayal, Pedro Miguel, 1709.

['Sam (Camas, WA)' via Azores Genealogy]

Need help please:  Bottom left and over to top right.  I think this is the 
marriage of Joao de Medeiros and Maria Furtado on 4 Feb. 1709.  His parents 
were Manuel Rodrigues de Almanca and Maria de Medeiros.  I’m having some eye 
problems right now.  Need a cataract operation.  Can sks please tell me if this 
is the correct document and do I have the information correct?  Anything else 
of note?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-C-1641-1712_item1/P85.html
 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading the name of the bride's mother from Altares marriage

[Gonçalo Marques]

Boa tarde,

I read "Antonia Hyronima" which would currently be Antónia Jerónima.
Literally I read
"... Mel Duarte de Sousa e de sua mer An
tonia Hyronima nral desta freguesia..."

Cheers
Gonçalo


On Wed, Sep 26, 2018 at 4:45 PM  wrote:

> This is a link to the marriage of Manuel Machado Parreira and Rosa
> Joaquina in 1789 in Altares. I need help reading the name of the bride’s
> mother. The record is in the upper right-hand side of the page. Thanks
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P6.html
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading the name of the bride's mother from Altares marriage

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This is a link to the marriage of Manuel Machado Parreira and Rosa Joaquina in 
1789 in Altares. I need help reading the name of the bride’s mother. The record 
is in the upper right-hand side of the page. Thanks
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1787-1831_item1/P6.html


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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help Locating Village and Island

[Cheri Mello]

 Ken M,

You have an Antonio Damiao b. 1878 and his wife, Anna Silva, as your
relatives. They are born possibly Pico. But the family Bible says Santa
Maria. Is that correct?

I believe I've seen the name on Sao Miguel island and I think it comes from
Santa Maria. However, I research both those islands. I don't have lineage
from Pico.

If you have tested your DNA with Family Tree DNA (FTDNA), you need to join
the Azores DNA Project and I will be able to tell you if your lines are
Santa Maria or Pico, based on your matches. If you tested somewhere else,
you may be able to transfer for free. Some raw data can be read by the
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Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 12:09 PM,  wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
> I know that this is most likely a shot in the dark. I'm trying to locate
> my Grandmother's parents Antonio Damiao born 1878 and his wife Anna Silva.
> Most of our family records indicate they came from Pico but no Village. I
> have my father's bible which shows my Grandmother's parents came from Santa
> Maria. The handwriting in the bible looks like it is my mother's but I know
> my mom was in contact with my father's family about their Azores Roots.
> Does anyone know if the two surnames come from Pico or Santa Maria? Does
> anyone recognize my Great Grandparents? Any help would be greatly
> apreciated. I do have a GEDmatch kit if that would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Ken Monis
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help Locating Village and Island

[kennethmonis54]

Hello Everyone,
I know that this is most likely a shot in the dark. I'm trying to locate my 
Grandmother's parents Antonio Damiao born 1878 and his wife Anna Silva. Most of 
our family records indicate they came from Pico but no Village. I have my 
father's bible which shows my Grandmother's parents came from Santa Maria. The 
handwriting in the bible looks like it is my mother's but I know my mom was in 
contact with my father's family about their Azores Roots. Does anyone know if 
the two surnames come from Pico or Santa Maria? Does anyone recognize my Great 
Grandparents? Any help would be greatly apreciated. I do have a GEDmatch kit if 
that would help.

Thanks,
Ken Monis

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Francisca daughter of Joao de Viveiros (Mosteiros) and Maria da Conceicao (Ginetes)

[Hana Johnson]

Thank you very much!

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 1:28 PM Cheri Mello  wrote:

> Maternal granddaughter of avo incognito and of Josefa do Nascimentto (sic).
>
> Both grandpa and grandma unknown would be avoS incognitoS.
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Hana Johnson  wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm having trouble making out the words of the following baptism record
>> of Francisca, left side of page, second entry, lines 9 and 10.
>>
>> On line #9 I believe that it states that the maternal grandfather (or
>> grandparents) is/are unknown and then there is the name Jozefa da
>> ?
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819_item1/P81.html
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Hana Johnson
>>
>> Researching Vieira (Vierra) of Ginetes and Sete-Cidades
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Francisca daughter of Joao de Viveiros (Mosteiros) and Maria da Conceicao (Ginetes)

[Cheri Mello]

Maternal granddaughter of avo incognito and of Josefa do Nascimentto (sic).

Both grandpa and grandma unknown would be avoS incognitoS.

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Hana Johnson  wrote:

>
> I'm having trouble making out the words of the following baptism record of
> Francisca, left side of page, second entry, lines 9 and 10.
>
> On line #9 I believe that it states that the maternal grandfather (or
> grandparents) is/are unknown and then there is the name Jozefa da
> ?
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819_item1/P81.html
>
> Thank you,
> Hana Johnson
>
> Researching Vieira (Vierra) of Ginetes and Sete-Cidades
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Francisca daughter of Joao de Viveiros (Mosteiros) and Maria da Conceicao (Ginetes)

[Hana Johnson]

I'm having trouble making out the words of the following baptism record of 
Francisca, left side of page, second entry, lines 9 and 10.

On line #9 I believe that it states that the maternal grandfather (or 
grandparents) is/are unknown and then there is the name Jozefa da 
?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819/SMG-PD-GINETES-B-1805-1819_item1/P81.html

Thank you,
Hana Johnson

Researching Vieira (Vierra) of Ginetes and Sete-Cidades

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last nameonAltaresbirth record from 1868

[doreencaetano]

Thank you


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From: Gonçalo Marques
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 3:09 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last nameonAltaresbirth 
record from 1868


I agree. "Meneses" makes more sense.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:29 PM,  wrote:
Thank you. I was seeing “de Maurico”. That had to be wrong. The last name “de 
Meneses” sound better. Plus there are families in Altares with this last name.
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:56 AM

To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name 
onAltaresbirth record from 1868
 
I have seen Meneses before. But you could be right Goncalo.
Rick
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gonçalo Marques
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:16 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868
 
 
I think it is "João de Simas de Meneres"
 
On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:
Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew by me. 
Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read it looks 
something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record is a bit 
fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.
 
Rick
 
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doreencaet...@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:55 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868
 
There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868
 
The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
 
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:26 PM
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth 
record from 1868
 
What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name onAltaresbirth record from 1868

[Gonçalo Marques]

I agree. "Meneses" makes more sense.

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 9:29 PM,  wrote:

> Thank you. I was seeing “de Maurico”. That had to be wrong. The last name
> “de Meneses” sound better. Plus there are families in Altares with this
> last name.
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel 
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:56 AM
>
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name
> onAltaresbirth record from 1868
>
>
>
> *I have seen Meneses before. But you could be right Goncalo.*
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *Gonçalo Marques
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:16 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on
> Altaresbirth record from 1868
>
>
>
>
>
> I think it is "João de Simas de Meneres"
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
> richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> *Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew
> by me. Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read
> it looks something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record
> is a bit fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *doreencaet...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:55 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on
> Altaresbirth record from 1868
>
>
>
> There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the
> paternal grandmother?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Richard Francis Pimentel 
> *Sent: *Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:47 AM
> *To: *azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject: *RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on
> Altaresbirth record from 1868
>
>
>
> *The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s
> name which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed
> the record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good
> comparison for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.*
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
>
> *Epping, NH*
>
>
>
> *Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and
> Ponta Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] *On
> Behalf Of *doreencaet...@gmail.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:26 PM
> *To:* azores@googlegroups.com
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on
> Altares birth record from 1868
>
>
>
> What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the
> page for Maria. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name onAltaresbirth record from 1868

[doreencaetano]

Thank you. I was seeing “de Maurico”. That had to be wrong. The last name “de 
Meneses” sound better. Plus there are families in Altares with this last name.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 11:56 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name 
onAltaresbirth record from 1868

I have seen Meneses before. But you could be right Goncalo.
Rick

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gonçalo Marques
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:16 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868


I think it is "João de Simas de Meneres"

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:
Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew by me. 
Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read it looks 
something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record is a bit 
fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.
 
Rick
 
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:55 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868
 
There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?
 
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
 
From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868
 
The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH
 
Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores
 
 
 
From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:26 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth 
record from 1868
 
What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html
 
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altaresbirth record from 1868

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

I have seen Meneses before. But you could be right Goncalo.

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Gonçalo Marques
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 2:16 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

 

I think it is "João de Simas de Meneres"

 

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel 
 wrote:

Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew by me. 
Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read it looks 
something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record is a bit 
fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.

 

Rick

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:55 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?

 

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>  for Windows 10

 

From: Richard Francis Pimentel <mailto:richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

 

The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 1:26 PM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth 
record from 1868

 

What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html

 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altaresbirth record from 1868

[Gonçalo Marques]

I think it is "João de Simas de Meneres"

On Thu, Jul 19, 2018 at 7:11 PM, Richard Francis Pimentel <
richard.francis.pimen...@gmail.com> wrote:

> *Oops** I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name
> blew by me. Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to
> read it looks something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The
> record is a bit fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.*
>
>
>
> *Rick*
>
>
>
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>
>
> There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the
> paternal grandmother?
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> Altaresbirth record from 1868
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>
>
> *The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s
> name which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed
> the record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good
> comparison for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.*
>
> *Rick*
>
> *Richard Francis Pimentel*
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>
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>
> What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the
> page for Maria. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altaresbirth record from 1868

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

Oops I was only looking at the underlined part and the second name blew by me. 
Yes, it must have come from the father’s mother. It is hard to read it looks 
something like “Munris” or “Menris” but I am not sure. The record is a bit 
fuzzy because of the dpi they used to scan it.

 

Rick

 

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There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?

 

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The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

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Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html

 

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altaresbirth record from 1868

[doreencaetano]

There was not a second part to the father’s name that came from the paternal 
grandmother?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Richard Francis Pimentel
Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2018 10:47 AM
To: azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on 
Altaresbirth record from 1868

The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.
Rick
Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores



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What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth record from 1868

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The father’s name is Joao de Simas. Five lines below is the grandfather’s name 
which is a little easier to read Jose de Simas. The priest that signed the 
record at the bottom is Joao de Arita da Silveira which is a good comparison 
for the first letter on how he made his letter “S”.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel

Epping, NH

 

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores

 

 

 

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What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with father's last name on Altares birth record from 1868

[doreencaetano]

What is the father’s last name? Record Number 50 on the rights side of the page 
for Maria. 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869/TER-AH-ALTARES-B-1860-1869_item1/P266.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Margaret Vicente]

You are welcome!
Margaret 

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> On Nov 12, 2017, at 10:24 AM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Thx Margaret, having the grandparents names is more confirmation I have the 
> right record.  Saw Neves surname but wasn't sure if they were godparents or 
> witnesses or what.  I can use this record to help with reading other records. 
>  Thx for the help. 
> 
> Judy
> 
>> On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 6:05:22 AM UTC-8, Mara wrote:
>> Hi Judy,
>> 
>> Gayle Machado has confirmed the dates.  Here's the rest:
>> 
>> Paternal grandson of Jose da Rosa Fontes and Maria da Conceicao and Maternal 
>> of, Manuel de Brum Albernaz and Maria de Macedo. 
>> The godfather was Gaspar Vieira das Neves married, proprietor and 
>> Godmother Dona Lauriana de Castro Neves, married, housewife.
>> 
>> Take care.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy 
>>>  wrote:
>>> Judy,
>>> 
>>> Jose was born on the second of Nov. and baptized on the 6th. from what I 
>>> can read. The very first line says "seis" meaning six and on the following 
>>> page (I think it was the fourth line down) it says "dois" of the same month 
>>> meaning on the second. 
>>> 
>>> Hope that helps. 
>>> 
>>> Gayle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
 
 I'm trying to verify some info but am having trouble reading the record.  
 I am attaching the url. The record is #90, starting at the bottom of the 
 left page.  Here's the info I want to verify.
 
 Jose, child of Manuel Jose Rosa Fontes and Maria Brum, born 2 November 
 1880.  Can't make out date except for November.  Everything else looks 
 like a match, at least to my eyes.
 
 http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881_item1/P37.html
 
 Any help would be appreciated.  Thx.
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

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Glad to help. 



> On Nov 12, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
> 
> Thx Gayle, that's what I needed.  I thought I saw seis but couldn't tell if 
> that was birthdate or not.  Need to brush up on reading the records.  Thx 
> again. 
> 
> Judy
> 
>> On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 7:30:27 PM UTC-8, good...@aol.com wrote:
>> Judy,
>> 
>> Jose was born on the second of Nov. and baptized on the 6th. from what I can 
>> read. The very first line says "seis" meaning six and on the following page 
>> (I think it was the fourth line down) it says "dois" of the same month 
>> meaning on the second. 
>> 
>> Hope that helps. 
>> 
>> Gayle
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I'm trying to verify some info but am having trouble reading the record.  I 
>>> am attaching the url. The record is #90, starting at the bottom of the left 
>>> page.  Here's the info I want to verify.
>>> 
>>> Jose, child of Manuel Jose Rosa Fontes and Maria Brum, born 2 November 
>>> 1880.  Can't make out date except for November.  Everything else looks like 
>>> a match, at least to my eyes.
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881_item1/P37.html
>>> 
>>> Any help would be appreciated.  Thx.
>>> 
>>> Judy Thompson
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Judy Thompson]

Thx Margaret, having the grandparents names is more confirmation I have the 
right record.  Saw Neves surname but wasn't sure if they were godparents or 
witnesses or what.  I can use this record to help with reading other 
records.  Thx for the help.  

Judy

On Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 6:05:22 AM UTC-8, Mara wrote:

> Hi Judy,
>
> Gayle Machado has confirmed the dates.  Here's the rest:
>
> Paternal grandson of Jose da Rosa Fontes and Maria da Conceicao and 
> Maternal of, Manuel de Brum Albernaz and Maria de Macedo. 
> The godfather was Gaspar Vieira das Neves married, proprietor and 
> Godmother Dona Lauriana de Castro Neves, married, housewife.
>
> Take care.
>
> On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>> Judy,
>>
>> Jose was born on the second of Nov. and baptized on the 6th. from what I 
>> can read. The very first line says "seis" meaning six and on the following 
>> page (I think it was the fourth line down) it says "dois" of the same month 
>> meaning on the second. 
>>
>> Hope that helps. 
>>
>> Gayle
>>
>>
>>
>> On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Judy Thompson > > wrote:
>>
>> I'm trying to verify some info but am having trouble reading the record.  
>> I am attaching the url. The record is #90, starting at the bottom of the 
>> left page.  Here's the info I want to verify.
>>
>> Jose, child of Manuel Jose Rosa Fontes and Maria Brum, born 2 November 
>> 1880.  Can't make out date except for November.  Everything else looks like 
>> a match, at least to my eyes.
>>
>>
>> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881_item1/P37.html*
>>  
>> 
>>
>> Any help would be appreciated.  Thx.
>>
>> Judy Thompson
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Judy Thompson]

Thx Gayle, that's what I needed.  I thought I saw seis but couldn't tell if 
that was birthdate or not.  Need to brush up on reading the records.  Thx 
again.  

Judy

On Saturday, November 11, 2017 at 7:30:27 PM UTC-8, good...@aol.com wrote:

> Judy,
>
> Jose was born on the second of Nov. and baptized on the 6th. from what I 
> can read. The very first line says "seis" meaning six and on the following 
> page (I think it was the fourth line down) it says "dois" of the same month 
> meaning on the second. 
>
> Hope that helps. 
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Judy Thompson  > wrote:
>
> I'm trying to verify some info but am having trouble reading the record.  
> I am attaching the url. The record is #90, starting at the bottom of the 
> left page.  Here's the info I want to verify.
>
> Jose, child of Manuel Jose Rosa Fontes and Maria Brum, born 2 November 
> 1880.  Can't make out date except for November.  Everything else looks like 
> a match, at least to my eyes.
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881_item1/P37.html*
>  
> 
>
> Any help would be appreciated.  Thx.
>
> Judy Thompson
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi Judy,

Gayle Machado has confirmed the dates.  Here's the rest:

Paternal grandson of Jose da Rosa Fontes and Maria da Conceicao and
Maternal of, Manuel de Brum Albernaz and Maria de Macedo.
The godfather was Gaspar Vieira das Neves married, proprietor and
Godmother Dona Lauriana de Castro Neves, married, housewife.

Take care.

On Sat, Nov 11, 2017 at 10:30 PM, 'Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Judy,
>
> Jose was born on the second of Nov. and baptized on the 6th. from what I
> can read. The very first line says "seis" meaning six and on the following
> page (I think it was the fourth line down) it says "dois" of the same month
> meaning on the second.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Gayle
>
>
>
> On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
>
> I'm trying to verify some info but am having trouble reading the record.
> I am attaching the url. The record is #90, starting at the bottom of the
> left page.  Here's the info I want to verify.
>
> Jose, child of Manuel Jose Rosa Fontes and Maria Brum, born 2 November
> 1880.  Can't make out date except for November.  Everything else looks like
> a match, at least to my eyes.
>
>
> *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881_item1/P37.html*
> 
>
> Any help would be appreciated.  Thx.
>
> Judy Thompson
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

['Gayle Machado' via Azores Genealogy]

Judy,

Jose was born on the second of Nov. and baptized on the 6th. from what I can 
read. The very first line says "seis" meaning six and on the following page (I 
think it was the fourth line down) it says "dois" of the same month meaning on 
the second. 

Hope that helps. 

Gayle



> On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:33 PM, Judy Thompson  wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to verify some info but am having trouble reading the record.  I 
> am attaching the url. The record is #90, starting at the bottom of the left 
> page.  Here's the info I want to verify.
> 
> Jose, child of Manuel Jose Rosa Fontes and Maria Brum, born 2 November 1880.  
> Can't make out date except for November.  Everything else looks like a match, 
> at least to my eyes.
> 
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881_item1/P37.html
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.  Thx.
> 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Judy Thompson]

I'm trying to verify some info but am having trouble reading the record.  I 
am attaching the url. The record is #90, starting at the bottom of the left 
page.  Here's the info I want to verify.

Jose, child of Manuel Jose Rosa Fontes and Maria Brum, born 2 November 
1880.  Can't make out date except for November.  Everything else looks like 
a match, at least to my eyes.

*http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881/PIC-LJ-LAJES-B-1880-1881_item1/P37.html*
 


Any help would be appreciated.  Thx.

Judy Thompson

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record for Barbara (top left)

[Cathy Bourgeois]

Ok, thanks, Cheri.  It does look like Azevedo.  Have a safe trip!

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Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record for Barbara (top left)

It's not Gouvea. I think it's Azevedo, but not sure (sitting in SLC waiting on 
the plane and checking emails from my cell). Cheri
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record for Barbara (top left)

[Cheri Mello]

It's not Gouvea. I think it's Azevedo, but not sure (sitting in SLC waiting
on the plane and checking emails from my cell). Cheri

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with record for Barbara (top left)

[Cathy Bourgeois]

I’m looking for Barbara who has parents Joao Rodrigues (Rois) and Maria Gouvea. 
 I can see the father but is the mother Maria Gouvea, please?  Can’t make out 
the words.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705/SMG-LG-ROSARIO-B-1664-1705_item1/P280.html
 
Thanks in advance,
Cathy Bourgeois

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Altares Marriage 1687 of SimaoGoncalves and Barbara Coelho

[doreencaetano]

Thank you

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From: Margaret Vicente
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To: azores
Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Altares Marriage 1687 of 
SimaoGoncalves and Barbara Coelho

Simao's father is Lazaro Ferras.

Barbara's mother is Catarina Manuel

It doesn't state where they are from but you can presume the couple is from 
Altares in the absence of naming another town.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:47 AM, doreencaetano  wrote:
I need help reading the groom's father's name.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P50.html
 
THis is what I think is says:They were married 6/20/1687. Barbara's parents are 
Francisco Goncalves Coelho and Catharina Marquez. Simao's parents are ? and 
Catarina de Melo. Are they all from Altares? Thanks for you assistance. Doreen

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Altares Marriage 1687 of Simao Goncalves and Barbara Coelho

[Margaret Vicente]

Sorry, Doreen at the very bottom it does say they are all from that same
place. And the date of marriage you have is correct

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 11:13 AM, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

> Simao's father is Lazaro Ferras.
>
> Barbara's mother is Catarina Manuel
>
> It doesn't state where they are from but you can presume the couple is
> from Altares in the absence of naming another town.
>
> On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:47 AM, doreencaetano 
> wrote:
>
>> I need help reading the groom's father's name.
>>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH
>> -ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P50.html
>> THis is what I think is says:They were married 6/20/1687. Barbara's
>> parents are Francisco Goncalves Coelho and Catharina Marquez. Simao's
>> parents are ? and Catarina de Melo. Are they all from Altares? Thanks for
>> you assistance. Doreen
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Altares Marriage 1687 of Simao Goncalves and Barbara Coelho

[Margaret Vicente]

Simao's father is Lazaro Ferras.

Barbara's mother is Catarina Manuel

It doesn't state where they are from but you can presume the couple is from
Altares in the absence of naming another town.

On Wed, Jul 5, 2017 at 10:47 AM, doreencaetano 
wrote:

> I need help reading the groom's father's name.
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-
> AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P50.html
> THis is what I think is says:They were married 6/20/1687. Barbara's
> parents are Francisco Goncalves Coelho and Catharina Marquez. Simao's
> parents are ? and Catarina de Melo. Are they all from Altares? Thanks for
> you assistance. Doreen
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Altares Marriage 1687 of Simao Goncalves and Barbara Coelho

[doreencaetano]

I need help reading the groom's father's name.
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1648-1712_item1/P50.html
 
THis is what I think is says:They were married 6/20/1687. Barbara's parents 
are Francisco Goncalves Coelho and Catharina Marquez. Simao's parents are ? 
and Catarina de Melo. Are they all from Altares? Thanks for you assistance. 
Doreen

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading Marriage of Joao Borges de Barcellos and Antonia Josepha of Altares 1755

[doreencaetano]

On the right side of the page.
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763/TER-AH-ALTARES-C-1713-1763_item1/P151.html
I have link Joao Borges de Barcellos to someone that appears in my tree 
several times Nicolau Borges Coelho and Maria de Sao Joao. I have linked 
Antonia Josepha to Joao Cardoso and Antonia Sacramento Mendes. This a other 
couple that appears in my tree that was developed by Joao Ventura. Before I 
start adding people to family groups I want to make sure I'm reading this 
correctly because it is not an easy one to read. I know that I'm perfectly 
capable of making mistakes and adding that to my minimal skills in reading 
the records. It could lead to well you knowerrors.  Thanks again 
for your help. My cousin Mel will be very pleased as to how far we have 
come to developing his tree. I get excited when their tree link to my tree. 
It saves me a lot of work because it has already been done (through my 
tree:)) 

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Margaret Vicente]

That's It.  Luz, see it now.

Thanks Colleen for enlightening me on this one.

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> On Jun 12, 2017, at 2:42 PM, Steve Wright  wrote:
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> Hi Margaret,
> 
> His mother's name was Maria Luz - so looks like da Luz!  Thanks again for 
> your help.
> 
> Colleen
> 
>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Margaret Vicente 
>>  wrote:
>> Hello Steve,
>> 
>> Agostinho Machado da Silva, de 20 anos, solteiro, natural da freguesia de 
>> Sao Pedro, d'esta
>> cidade, filho de Antonio Machado da Silva e de Maria Silva?, levando sua 
>> irma Marianna Silva, 
>> de 18 anos, solteira, da mesma freguesia.
>> 
>> Agostinho Machado da Silva, 20 years old, single, natural of the Parish of 
>> Sao Pedro, of this City.  
>> Son of Antonio Machado da Silva and of Maria Silva?, taking his sister 
>> Mariana Silva with him, 18 years old, single, of this same Parish
>> 
>> The Mother's surname is not clear to me as I don't see the (i) in Silva, but 
>> the rest of the letters seem to match.
>> 
>> Hope this helps.
>> 
>> Margaret Vicente
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Steve Wright  wrote:
>>> This is the passport for my grandfather's brother, Augostino Machada da 
>>> Silva - traveling with sister Marianna to Lowell Mass.
>>> 
>>> It is # 729 on July 29
>>> 
>>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P126.html
>>> 
>>> Thank you so appreciate the help.
>>> 
>>> Colleen Wright
>>> 
>>> Researching - Machado, Silva, Goncalves on Terceira and Pico  and Rosa and 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Steve Wright]

Hi Margaret,

His mother's name was Maria Luz - so looks like da Luz!  Thanks again for
your help.

Colleen

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Margaret Vicente <
margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Steve,
>
> Agostinho Machado da Silva, de 20 anos, solteiro, natural da freguesia de
> Sao Pedro, d'esta
> cidade, filho de Antonio Machado da Silva e de Maria Silva?, levando sua
> irma Marianna Silva,
> de 18 anos, solteira, da mesma freguesia.
>
> Agostinho Machado da Silva, 20 years old, single, natural of the Parish of
> Sao Pedro, of this City.
> Son of Antonio Machado da Silva and of Maria Silva?, taking his sister
> Mariana Silva with him, 18 years old, single, of this same Parish
>
> The Mother's surname is not clear to me as I don't see the (i) in Silva,
> but the rest of the letters seem to match.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Margaret Vicente
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Steve Wright 
> wrote:
>
>> This is the passport for my grandfather's brother, Augostino Machada da
>> Silva - traveling with sister Marianna to Lowell Mass.
>>
>> It is # 729 on July 29
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPO
>> RTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P126.html
>>
>> Thank you so appreciate the help.
>>
>> Colleen Wright
>>
>> Researching - Machado, Silva, Goncalves on Terceira and Pico  and Rosa
>> and Cunha  - Graciosa
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Steve Wright]

Thank you so much Margaret for your quick response. Much appreciated.

Colleen Wright

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 10:51 AM, Margaret Vicente <
margaretvice...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Steve,
>
> Agostinho Machado da Silva, de 20 anos, solteiro, natural da freguesia de
> Sao Pedro, d'esta
> cidade, filho de Antonio Machado da Silva e de Maria Silva?, levando sua
> irma Marianna Silva,
> de 18 anos, solteira, da mesma freguesia.
>
> Agostinho Machado da Silva, 20 years old, single, natural of the Parish of
> Sao Pedro, of this City.
> Son of Antonio Machado da Silva and of Maria Silva?, taking his sister
> Mariana Silva with him, 18 years old, single, of this same Parish
>
> The Mother's surname is not clear to me as I don't see the (i) in Silva,
> but the rest of the letters seem to match.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Margaret Vicente
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Steve Wright 
> wrote:
>
>> This is the passport for my grandfather's brother, Augostino Machada da
>> Silva - traveling with sister Marianna to Lowell Mass.
>>
>> It is # 729 on July 29
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPO
>> RTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P126.html
>>
>> Thank you so appreciate the help.
>>
>> Colleen Wright
>>
>> Researching - Machado, Silva, Goncalves on Terceira and Pico  and Rosa
>> and Cunha  - Graciosa
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Margaret Vicente]

Hello Steve,

Agostinho Machado da Silva, de 20 anos, solteiro, natural da freguesia de
Sao Pedro, d'esta
cidade, filho de Antonio Machado da Silva e de Maria Silva?, levando sua
irma Marianna Silva,
de 18 anos, solteira, da mesma freguesia.

Agostinho Machado da Silva, 20 years old, single, natural of the Parish of
Sao Pedro, of this City.
Son of Antonio Machado da Silva and of Maria Silva?, taking his sister
Mariana Silva with him, 18 years old, single, of this same Parish

The Mother's surname is not clear to me as I don't see the (i) in Silva,
but the rest of the letters seem to match.

Hope this helps.

Margaret Vicente

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Steve Wright  wrote:

> This is the passport for my grandfather's brother, Augostino Machada da
> Silva - traveling with sister Marianna to Lowell Mass.
>
> It is # 729 on July 29
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
> PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P126.html
>
> Thank you so appreciate the help.
>
> Colleen Wright
>
> Researching - Machado, Silva, Goncalves on Terceira and Pico  and Rosa and
> Cunha  - Graciosa
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with translation

[Steve Wright]

This is the passport for my grandfather's brother, Augostino Machada da
Silva - traveling with sister Marianna to Lowell Mass.

It is # 729 on July 29

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911/PASSAPORTES-TER-1909-1911_item1/P126.html

Thank you so appreciate the help.

Colleen Wright

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Cunha  - Graciosa

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help reading CCA Angra Altares 1713-1763 pg 163

[Cheri Mello]

Can you copy the URL and paste it?

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:18 PM,  wrote:

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> Good evening everyone. I’m trying to help a relative do her family tree. I
> have come across a record that is hard to read. I’m not sure if everyone in
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> every created a new topic. At least if I have I have forgot how to do it so
> I hope this is the way.
>
> The record I’m interested in is at the bottom of the left side of pg 163
> for the CCA records for Altares 1713-1763. It should be the marriage record
> for Manuel Machado Fagundes and Isabel Ignacia. Any help would be
> appreciated. Thank you. Doreen Caetano
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help reading CCA Angra Altares 1713-1763 pg 163

[doreencaetano]

Good evening everyone. I’m trying to help a relative do her family tree. I have 
come across a record that is hard to read. I’m not sure if everyone in the 
group will be able to see this email. I hope so. I do not think I have every 
created a new topic. At least if I have I have forgot how to do it so I hope 
this is the way.
The record I’m interested in is at the bottom of the left side of pg 163 for 
the CCA records for Altares 1713-1763. It should be the marriage record for 
Manuel Machado Fagundes and Isabel Ignacia. Any help would be appreciated. 
Thank you. Doreen Caetano
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help Translating Passportes

['Donna Sultzer' via Azores Genealogy]

Can't thank everyone for helping me so much. Especially E. aloha,   
Donna 

On Sunday, March 26, 2017 12:56 PM, "E" Sharp"  wrote:
 

 Would someone please translate the following Passportes record for me (all 
columns)?  
Lucinda de Carmo Alvernaz - 5th from the bottom #157
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P168.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help Translating Passportes

[Margaret Vicente]

Lucinda do Carmo Alvernaz, solteira, domestica, 15, 1.55, oval, castanho,
castanho, castanho, direito, pequena, branca, ??, America, ??, Pico, S.
Roque, /, /, Madonna, Uma cicatriz na testa

Lucinda do Carmo Alvernaz, single, domestic, (age) 15 years old, (height) 1
meter and 55 centimetres, (face shape) oval, (eyes) brown, ((eyebrows)
brown, (hair) brown, (nose) straight, (mouth) small, (complexion) white,
(destination) North America, [Naturality: island, Pico. Council, S. Roque,
Parish, Piedade. (writes: /, reads: /) (Ship's Name) Madonna?
(Observations: one scar on the forehead)


On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 6:56 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Would someone please translate the following Passportes record for me (all
> columns)?
>
> Lucinda de Carmo Alvernaz - 5th from the bottom #157
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPO
> RTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P168.html
>
> Thank you.
>
> "E"
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help Translating Passportes

[Cheri Mello]

Headings:
Year, Month, day; Number of passaporte; Name; Status; Profession; Age;
Height; Face; Hair; Something; Eyes; Nose; Mouth; ???
Next page:
Destination; Whom is accompanying; Island; Council; Freguesia; Knows how to
write (2 columns); Ship; Observat

I know you can do it, you've been at this forever :) Good luck!

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 3:56 PM, "E" Sharp  wrote:

> Would someone please translate the following Passportes record for me (all
> columns)?
>
> Lucinda de Carmo Alvernaz - 5th from the bottom #157
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
> PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P168.html
>
> Thank you.
>
> "E"
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need Help Translating Passportes

["E" Sharp]

Would someone please translate the following Passportes record for me (all
columns)?

Lucinda de Carmo Alvernaz - 5th from the bottom #157

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920/PASSAPORTES-FAL-1908-1920_item1/P168.html

Thank you.

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Marriage record for Francisco Antonio da Silveira and Clara Florinda - Flamengos Faial

[Evee Silva Kiler]

Thank you, Rick.  I didn't pick up on the "digo"...Now it makes sense!

On Tuesday, January 31, 2017 at 7:36:15 AM UTC-7, Richard Francis Pimentel 
wrote:
>
> *The scribe started writing the age as 27 and corrected himself, “digo” (I 
> meant to say) and wrote 5 years so the bride was 25 at the time of her 
> marriage.*
>
>  
>
> *The date below the names is most likely a certificate was issued on that 
> date.*
>
>  
>
> *Rick*
>
>  
>
> *From:* azo...@googlegroups.com  [mailto:
> azo...@googlegroups.com ] *On Behalf Of *Evee Silva Kiler
> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:20 AM
> *To:* Azores Genealogy
> *Subject:* [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Marriage record for 
> Francisco Antonio da Silveira and Clara Florinda - Flamengos Faial
>
>  
>
> Record 11 - left page - marriage for Francisco Antonio da Silveira and 
> Clara Florinda
>
>  
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891_item1/P54.html
>
>  
>
> Two things about the record I could use some help with:
>
>  
>
> 1-  There is a note in the margin underneath the names of the "couple".  I 
> don't understand the abbreviation before the date.  "?  em 1? de 
> Janeiro de 1873"
>
>  
>
> 2-  In the 16th line, I believe it is telling the age of the bride, but 
> I'm not sure what it is.  Looks like "vinte ? cinco" 
>
>  
>
>  
>
> Thank you  for any suggestions.
>
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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Marriage record for Francisco Antonio da Silveira and Clara Florinda - Flamengos Faial

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

The scribe started writing the age as 27 and corrected himself, “digo” (I meant 
to say) and wrote 5 years so the bride was 25 at the time of her marriage.

 

The date below the names is most likely a certificate was issued on that date.

 

Rick

 

From: azores@googlegroups.com [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Evee Silva Kiler
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2017 9:20 AM
To: Azores Genealogy
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Marriage record for Francisco 
Antonio da Silveira and Clara Florinda - Flamengos Faial

 

Record 11 - left page - marriage for Francisco Antonio da Silveira and Clara 
Florinda

 

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891_item1/P54.html

 

Two things about the record I could use some help with:

 

1-  There is a note in the margin underneath the names of the "couple".  I 
don't understand the abbreviation before the date.  "?  em 1? de Janeiro de 
1873"

 

2-  In the 16th line, I believe it is telling the age of the bride, but I'm not 
sure what it is.  Looks like "vinte ? cinco" 

 

 

Thank you  for any suggestions.

 

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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with Marriage record for Francisco Antonio da Silveira and Clara Florinda - Flamengos Faial

[Evee Silva Kiler]

Record 11 - left page - marriage for Francisco Antonio da Silveira and 
Clara Florinda

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891/FAL-HT-FLAMENGOS-C-1860-1891_item1/P54.html

Two things about the record I could use some help with:

1-  There is a note in the margin underneath the names of the "couple".  I 
don't understand the abbreviation before the date.  "?  em 1? de 
Janeiro de 1873"

2-  In the 16th line, I believe it is telling the age of the bride, but I'm 
not sure what it is.  Looks like "vinte ? cinco" 


Thank you  for any suggestions.

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

[Richard Francis Pimentel]

According to the marriage record Victoria is from Agua Retorto as is her 
parents. I would look for the marriage of her parents in Agua Retorto and then 
look for her baptism after I found the parents' marriage in the same place.

Rick

Richard Francis Pimentel
Epping, NH

Researching, Riberia Grande, Riberinha, Achada Grande,  Bretanha, and Ponta 
Delgada,  Sao Miguel, Acores



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From: 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy [mailto:azores@googlegroups.com] 
Sent: Monday, December 5, 2016 3:16 PM
To: Azores@googlegroups.com
Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html

this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of 
page and continued next page]

i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html

i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of 
Francisco de Souza   and Guiteria de Medeiros

i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either

am i searching in the correct book?

thanks

Carmen


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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH THIS ONE

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P192.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1756-1800_item1/P193.html

this is the marriage of António Boteilho + Victoria de Medeiros - [bottom of 
page and continued next page]

i found António Boteilho's baptism on june 13 1764 in faial da terra

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1764-1787_item1/P6.html

i'm having a hard time finding Victoria de Medeiros' baptism - daughter of 
Francisco de Souza   and Guiteria de Medeiros

i couldn't find any of victoria's siblings either

am i searching in the correct book?

thanks

Carmen
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi jr

thanks

i didn't get a chance to look in those other places yet but will do tomorrow

Carmen 

  
   
    


On Sat, 12/3/16, JR  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Saturday, December 3, 2016, 11:44 PM
 
 Yes, there
 is a problem. Maria is not to be found on the prescribed
 date of Nov 30- 1793. And her parents are not in the
 expected period. Suggest you look in Povoacao, then
 Nordestinho and Achada. Jose de Aguiar is from Achada and
 married in Nordestinho. But frankly, I suspect error on part
 of priest. 
 Manuel de
 Aguiar, bap 22
 May 1788 in
 Nordestinho, res Faial da Terra. 
 He was the son of 4. Jose de Aguiar and 5. Josefa
 Pereira.  He married 3. Maria de Pimentel de
 Resendes 02 Dec
 1812 in Faial da
 Terra, NS da Graca. 
 
 
 Maria de
 Pimentel de Resendes, bap 30 Nov 1793 in Faial da Terra, NS da Graca. 
 She was the daughter of 6. Antonio de Pimentel and
 7. Antonia
 Marquia ? [probably Margarida or Marques.]
 JR
 
 
 On
 Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 5:57:06 PM UTC-5, carmen
 furtado wrote: http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P69.html
 
   
 
 can't find maria de pimentel's
 baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 1787-1812 
 
 
 
 1791 starts here
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787- 1812_item1/P16.html
 
 
 
 also couldn't find her parents'
 marriage
 
 
 
 is there another parish to search?
 
 
 
 thanks
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
    
 
     
 
 
 
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 On Tue, 10/18/16, 'carmen furtado'
 via Azores Genealogy  wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 
  To: azo...@googlegroups.com
 
  Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
  
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/
 SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800- 1833_item1/P69.html
 
  
 
  left side
 
  
 
  manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel
 
  
 
  his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho
 + Josefa Perreira -
 
  Nordestinho
 
  
 
  his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho,
 Nordeste
 
  
 
  his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja
 de São Pedro,
 
  Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
  
 
  marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de
 Nossa Senhora da
 
  Penha de França, Água Retorta
 
  
 
  her parents - António de Pimentel -
 Faial da Terra +
 
  Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra
 
  
 
  her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da
 Terra
 
  
 
  her christening - November 30, 1793 -
 Igreja de Nossa
 
  Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra
 
  
 
  i'm taking a wild guess on this
 translation
 
  
 
  please correct my mistakes
 
  
 
  what is the word after maria de pimentel
 and before
 
  filha  
 
  
 
  i could not find a baptism for maria
 
  
 
  where would i look for manoel and
 maria's deaths?
 
  
 
  thank you
 
  
 
  carmen
 
    
 
     
 
  
 
  
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

[JR]

Yes, there is a problem. Maria is not to be found on the prescribed date of 
Nov 30- 1793. And her parents are not in the expected period. Suggest you 
look in Povoacao, then Nordestinho and Achada. Jose de Aguiar is from 
Achada and married in Nordestinho. But frankly, I suspect error on part of 
priest. 

*Manuel de Aguiar,* bap 22 May 1788 in Nordestinho, res Faial da Terra.  He 
was the son of *4. Jose de Aguiar* and *5. Josefa Pereira*.  He married *3. 
Maria de Pimentel de Resendes* 02 Dec 1812 in Faial da Terra, NS da Graca.


M*aria de Pimentel de Resendes,* bap 30 Nov 1793 in Faial da Terra, NS da 
Graca.  She was the daughter of *6. Antonio de Pimentel* and *7. Antonia 
Marquia ? [probably Margarida or Marques*.]


JR



On Saturday, December 3, 2016 at 5:57:06 PM UTC-5, carmen furtado wrote:
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
>  
>   
> can't find maria de pimentel's baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 
> 1787-1812 
>
> 1791 starts here 
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812_item1/P16.html
>  
>
> also couldn't find her parents' marriage 
>
> is there another parish to search? 
>
> thanks 
>
> Carmen 
> 
> 
>
>  
> On Tue, 10/18/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote: 
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION 
>  To: azo...@googlegroups.com  
>  Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM 
>   
>  
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
>  
>   
>  left side 
>   
>  manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel 
>   
>  his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira - 
>  Nordestinho 
>   
>  his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho, Nordeste 
>   
>  his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro, 
>  Nordestinho, Nordeste 
>   
>  marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da 
>  Penha de França, Água Retorta 
>   
>  her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra + 
>  Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra 
>   
>  her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra 
>   
>  her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa 
>  Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra 
>   
>  i'm taking a wild guess on this translation 
>   
>  please correct my mistakes 
>   
>  what is the word after maria de pimentel and before 
>  filha  
>   
>  i could not find a baptism for maria 
>   
>  where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths? 
>   
>  thank you 
>   
>  carmen 
>
> 
>  
>   
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with name of male on marriage certificate please

[Cathy Bourgeois]

Does this say Thome Martins as the male marrying Margarida dos Anjos,
please?


http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804/SMG-PD-FAJADEBAIXO-C-1759-1804_item1/P20.html


Bottom right.

Thanks,
Cathy

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
  
can't find maria de pimentel's baptism in Faial da Terra, Baptismos 1787-1812 

1791 starts here

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-B-1787-1812_item1/P16.html

also couldn't find her parents' marriage

is there another parish to search?

thanks

Carmen
   
    


On Tue, 10/18/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, October 18, 2016, 10:01 AM
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833/SMG-PV-FAIALDATERRA-C-1800-1833_item1/P69.html
 
 left side
 
 manoel de guiar - maria de pimentel
 
 his parents - José Aguiar - Nordestinho + Josefa Perreira -
 Nordestinho
 
 his birth - May 7, 1788 -  Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
 his christening - May 20, 1788 - Igreja de São Pedro,
 Nordestinho, Nordeste
 
 marriage - December 2, 1812 - Igreja de Nossa Senhora da
 Penha de França, Água Retorta
 
 her parents - António de Pimentel - Faial da Terra +
 Antónia Marguisa - Faial da Terra
 
 her birth - November ?, 1793 - Faial da Terra
 
 her christening - November 30, 1793 - Igreja de Nossa
 Senhora da Graça, Faial da Terra
 
 i'm taking a wild guess on this translation
 
 please correct my mistakes
 
 what is the word after maria de pimentel and before
 filha  
 
 i could not find a baptism for maria
 
 where would i look for manoel and maria's deaths?
 
 thank you
 
 carmen
   
    
     
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

[Tish M]

Parents and child's name are correct
The mother is from Santa Barbara
Paternal grandmother: Maria de Jesus
born on 21 Dec 1805
Hint:
Look at the book you are working from if you are having trouble reading the
year. You will see it only goes to 1810 so the birth can't be 1850.







On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
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>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-
> SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html
>
>
>
> Bottom right one:
>
> Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the
> Apostle of Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria
> Francisca natural of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same
> island and residents of Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel
> Coelho and Maria de ?? natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel Jose
> de Resendes natural of this parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of Santa
> Barbara. Born on the 21st of December 1850 and was baptized on the 29th
> of the same month and year
>
>
>
>
>
> I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?
>
> Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
>
> I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
>
> Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

[JR]

Well done. The year, however, is 1805 not 1850. If ever in doubt just look 
at records before or after to confirm the correct month or year. Note also 
you are the book of 1797-1810.

JR

On Saturday, November 19, 2016 at 8:53:21 PM UTC-5, Cheri Mello wrote:
>
> Paternal grandma is Maria de Jesus. The rest is right. I don't know why he 
> calls the church Glorious Santa Barbara. Maybe he had too much vinho. :)
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, 
> Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azo...@googlegroups.com > wrote:
>
>>  
>>
>>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html
>>
>>  
>>
>> Bottom right one:
>>
>> Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the 
>> Apostle of Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria 
>> Francisca natural of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same 
>> island and residents of Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel 
>> Coelho and Maria de ?? natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel 
>> Jose de Resendes natural of this parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of 
>> Santa Barbara. Born on the 21st of December 1850 and was baptized on the 
>> 29th of the same month and year
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?  
>>
>> Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
>>
>> I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
>>
>> Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)
>>
>>  
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

[Cheri Mello]

Paternal grandma is Maria de Jesus. The rest is right. I don't know why he
calls the church Glorious Santa Barbara. Maybe he had too much vinho. :)

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente,
Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada

On Sat, Nov 19, 2016 at 5:39 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-
> VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html
>
>
>
> Bottom right one:
>
> Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the
> Apostle of Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria
> Francisca natural of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same
> island and residents of Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel
> Coelho and Maria de ?? natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel Jose
> de Resendes natural of this parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of Santa
> Barbara. Born on the 21st of December 1850 and was baptized on the 29th
> of the same month and year
>
>
>
>
>
> I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?
>
> Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
>
> I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
>
> Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help reading this one.

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1797-1810_item1/P50.html

Bottom right one:
Bernadina daughter of Manoel Jose Coelho natural of this parish the Apostle of 
Sao Pedro of this island of Santa Maria and his wife, Maria Francisca natural 
of the parish of Gloriosa Santa Barbara of this same island and residents of 
Termo das Feterias. Paternal grandparents of Manoel Coelho and Maria de ?? 
natural of this parish and maternal of Manoel Jose de Resendes natural of this 
parish and his wife Rosa Maria natural of Santa Barbara. Born on the 21st of 
December 1850 and was baptized on the 29th of the same month and year


I think I have the names of the parents and child correct?  
Does it say the mother is from Gloriosa Santa Barbara?
I can’t make out the paternal grandmothers last name.
Do I have the birth day, month and year correct?

Thanks in advance, Sam (Mazatlán)



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi margaret

forgot to ask who her mother's parents were

i can make out izabel furtado

i can't make out the father's name

my next post will have more info

thanks again

Carmen
   
    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" 
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 9:01 AM
 
 Yes,
 that's her baptism and obit record.  The 1816 is a
 certification.  It means her birth record was requested and
 certified in 1816.  It could be for many reasons.  a)
 inheritance b) a child or husband needed proof of birth.
 Should you find this certification on her husband's
 birth record or one of their children, you will know it was
 an inheritance or other legal matters. If they owned a home
 together and he remarried, there would be a need to set the
 records straight...etc.
 Nothing in the obit refers to
 his remarriage.  It does say her age was 38 years old. If
 you suspect he did marry again, you can start searching
 shortly after her death date, especially if there were
 children, a man would usually remarry shortly after.  It
 may not be in the same town though, which makes it hard to
 find.
 
 
 
 
 
 On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 8:27 AM, carmen furtado 
 wrote:
 hi
 margaret
 
 
 
 does this look like to be her baptism
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799/SMG- VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799_
 item1/P46.html
 
 
 
 what is the november 13 1816 about?
 
 
 
 i thought this was her obituary
 
 
 
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_ item1/P245.html
 
 
 
 as her husband francisco da costa got married again in
 1807
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 Vicente 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "carmen furtado" 
 
  Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 6:36 AM
 
 
 
  She is of
 
  father incognito and mother is Margarida Ignacia
 (Inacia)
 
  already deceased.
 
  On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 
  6:08 AM, carmen furtado 
 
  wrote:
 
  thank you
 
  margaret
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is her father incognito
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  Carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH
 MARRIAGE
 
  TRANSLATION
 
 
 
   To: "azores" 
 
 
 
   Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Carmen,
 
 
 
   Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 
 
 
   You're
 
 
 
   welcome.Margaret
 
 
 
   On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 
 
 
   3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores
 Genealogy
 
  
 
 
 
   wrote:
 
 
 
   http://culturacores.azores.
 
 
 
   gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/
 SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 
 
 
   VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   what are her parents names
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila
 franca
 
  but
 
 
 
   couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

hi margaret

does this look like to be her baptism

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1767-1799_item1/P46.html

what is the november 13 1816 about?

i thought this was her obituary

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-O-1780-1806_item1/P245.html

as her husband francisco da costa got married again in 1807

thank you

Carmen
  
   
    


On Fri, 11/18/16, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" 
 Date: Friday, November 18, 2016, 6:36 AM
 
 She is of
 father incognito and mother is Margarida Ignacia (Inacia)
 already deceased.
 On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at
 6:08 AM, carmen furtado 
 wrote:
 thank you
 margaret
 
 
 
 is her father incognito
 
 
 
 Carmen
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" 
 
  Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 
 
  Carmen,
 
  Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 
  You're
 
  welcome.Margaret
 
  On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 
  3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy
 
 
  wrote:
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  what are her parents names
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca
 but
 
  couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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thank you margaret

is her father incognito

Carmen
  
   
    


On Thu, 11/17/16, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" 
 Date: Thursday, November 17, 2016, 3:57 PM
 
 Carmen,
 Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.
 You're
 welcome.Margaret
 On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at
 3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_ item1/P257.html
 
 
 
 francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
 
 
 
 what are her parents names
 
 
 
 i can see margarida ignacia
 
 
 
 i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but
 couldn't find any izabels
 
 
 
 what is that sao pedro about?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

[Margaret Vicente]

Carmen, Isabel is from Ponta Garça.  Go find her there.

You're welcome.
Margaret

On Thu, Nov 17, 2016 at 3:37 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P257.html
>
> francisco da costa and izabel de jesus
>
> what are her parents names
>
> i can see margarida ignacia
>
> i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but couldn't find
> any izabels
>
> what is that sao pedro about?
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Carmen
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P257.html

francisco da costa and izabel de jesus

what are her parents names

i can see margarida ignacia

i went through 1767-1775 baptisms in matriz vila franca but couldn't find any 
izabels

what is that sao pedro about?

thank you 

carmen






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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Carmen, do you live in California?? If you live anywhere close to Monterey
CA you need to come to the DAR Seminar in January. I will be presenting a 2
hour class on reading the Portuguese records.


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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

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azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P221.html
>
> francisco luiz marriage
>
> his parents are António Luiz andJosefa do Espírito Santo
>
> what are Maria do Rozário's parents names?
>
> João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?
>
> then everything gets confusing with the names
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
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>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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thank you margaret

i didn't notice that you supplied a link

that one was a hard one for me to find

thought she was a foundling

carmen



  
   
    


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 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "carmen furtado" , azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 3:20 PM
 
 Carmen you have the wrong
 Antonia.  I sent the right link previous email, bottom left
 3 pages up from this one # 86.  
 On Wed, Nov
 9, 2016 at 3:14 PM carmen furtado 
 wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 thank you margaret
 
 
 
 i found this but can't find the month on it
 
 
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html
 
 
 
 maria
 
 
 
 does it have may on it?
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente 
 wrote:
 
 
 
  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE
 TRANSLATION
 
  To: "azores" 
 
  Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
 
 
 
  Nothing
 
  else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
 
  
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
 
 
 
  On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
 
  AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
 
  wrote:
 
  http://culturacores.azores.
 
  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
 
  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  joze da costa - antonia margarida
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  october 6, 1816
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
 
  Conceição
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find
 a
 
  baptism record in matriz villa franca
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  is something else listed in this record where to find
 her
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  thank you
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH PARENTS NAMES

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P221.html

francisco luiz marriage

his parents are António Luiz andJosefa do Espírito Santo

what are Maria do Rozário's parents names?

João Luiz and Margarida de Oliviera?

then everything gets confusing with the names

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

[Margaret Vicente]

Carmen you have the wrong Antonia. I sent the right link previous email,
bottom left 3 pages up from this one # 86.
On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 3:14 PM carmen furtado 
wrote:

>
>
>
> thank you margaret
>
> i found this but can't find the month on it
>
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html
>
> maria
>
> does it have may on it?
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --------
> On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente  wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
>  To: "azores" 
>  Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
>
>  Nothing
>  else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
>
>  On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
>  AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
>  wrote:
>  http://culturacores.azores.
>  gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
>  VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
>
>
>
>  joze da costa - antonia margarida
>
>
>
>  october 6, 1816
>
>
>
>  his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
>
>
>
>  her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
>  Conceição
>
>
>
>  i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a
>  baptism record in matriz villa franca
>
>
>
>  is something else listed in this record where to find her
>
>
>
>  thank you
>
>
>
>  carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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thank you margaret

i found this but can't find the month on it

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P83.html

maria

does it have may on it?

thank you

carmen

 
  
   
    


On Wed, 11/9/16, Margaret Vicente  wrote:

 Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION
 To: "azores" 
 Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2016, 12:17 PM
 
 Nothing
 else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html
 
 On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53
 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:
 http://culturacores.azores.
 gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG- VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-
 VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_ item1/P47.html
 
 
 
 joze da costa - antonia margarida
 
 
 
 october 6, 1816
 
 
 
 his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
 
 
 
 her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da
 Conceição
 
 
 
 i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a
 baptism record in matriz villa franca
 
 
 
 is something else listed in this record where to find her
 
 
 
 thank you
 
 
 
 carmen
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
    
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH MARRIAGE TRANSLATION

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Nothing else listed, and she was born 04-May-1790

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P86.html

On Wed, Nov 9, 2016 at 8:53 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html
>
> joze da costa - antonia margarida
>
> october 6, 1816
>
> his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria
>
> her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da Conceição
>
> i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a baptism record in
> matriz villa franca
>
> is something else listed in this record where to find her
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1812-1820_item1/P47.html

joze da costa - antonia margarida

october 6, 1816

his parents - João da Costa and Guiteria Maria

her parents - Raimondo António de Payva and Joanna da Conceição

i figure she was born around 1790 but i couldn't find a baptism record in 
matriz villa franca

is something else listed in this record where to find her

thank you

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

[Margaret Vicente]

meant to sayexterior front door *area*.

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> 2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year.
> ... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on the 11th* day of
> the same month and year.
>
> *11 - current spelling is onze and old spelling is honze.
>
> Someone else is going to have to figure out what looks like "airo."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-
>> PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the
>> left side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria
>> and Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year
>> old, more or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone
>> can translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam Koester
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

[Margaret Vicente]

Cheri, it is "adro" which is the exterior front door are,  the "forecourt"
or churchyard.


On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 11:06 PM, Cheri Mello  wrote:

> 2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year.
> ... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on the 11th* day of
> the same month and year.
>
> *11 - current spelling is onze and old spelling is honze.
>
> Someone else is going to have to figure out what looks like "airo."
>
> Cheri Mello
> Listowner, Azores-Gen
> Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das
> Tainhas, Achada
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-
>> PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html
>>
>>
>>
>> Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the
>> left side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria
>> and Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year
>> old, more or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone
>> can translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank you in advance for your help,
>>
>>
>>
>> Sam Koester
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

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2 May 1852. I had to read the next two records below to get the year.
... and he was buried in the "airo?" of this church at on the 11th* day of
the same month and year.

*11 - current spelling is onze and old spelling is honze.

Someone else is going to have to figure out what looks like "airo."

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:50 PM, aportugee via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-
> HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html
>
>
>
> Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the left
> side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria and
> Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year old,
> more or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.
>
>
>
> So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone
> can translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.
>
>
>
> Thank you in advance for your help,
>
>
>
> Sam Koester
>
>
>
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[AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with the date of death please

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http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855/FAL-HT-PEDROMIGUEL-O-1822-1855_item1/P132.html

Need help reading some of this Obit.  It’s the first whole one on the left 
side:  Antonio.  I read that he is the son of Jose Francisco de Faria and 
Theresa Francisca. Born in Pedro Miguel, etc., etc.  He is one year old, more 
or less. Died the 2nd  day ?? of the month of May 185?.

So, I’m not sure of the day he died nor the exact year.  Also, if anyone can 
translate the sentence after the date, that would be great.

Thank you in advance for your help,

Sam Koester



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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS

[Margaret Vicente]

Hi Carmen,

According to these records, none of these children were adopted or
"perfilhadas" because if they were it would be annotated on the record with
the parents names or point to another book with that information.

The word after Inacia (Ignacia) Maria is "Joaquina" the full name is Inacia
Maria Joaquina

You're welcome,

Margaret

On Thu, Nov 3, 2016 at 11:59 AM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> i just finished searching sao pedro's births fom 1776 to 1798
>
> i could only find 4 ignacias
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P140.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P143.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P145.html
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P151.html
>
> is there some way to find which one was adopted by  manoel rodriques and
> maria sao joao?
>
> thanks
>
> Carmen
>
>
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> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS
>  To: Azores@googlegroups.com
>  Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2016, 6:31 PM
>
>  i was looking for something else and
>  came across this one
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html
>
>  marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria
>
>  so i went looking for his baptism
>
>  is this it?
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-
> MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html
>
>  the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793
>  - this was the only one
>
>  wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off
>
>  the marriage for her has paes incognito
>
>  what is the word after Ignácia Maria?
>
>  here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html
>
>  says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and
>  maria sao joao
>
>  i'll try to find her
>
>  thank you
>
>  carmen
>
>  found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother
>
>  http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

i just finished searching sao pedro's births fom 1776 to 1798

i could only find 4 ignacias

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P140.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P143.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P145.html
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791/SMG-PD-SAOPEDRO-B-1776-1791_item1/P151.html

is there some way to find which one was adopted by  manoel rodriques and maria 
sao joao?

thanks

Carmen
   
    


On Tue, 11/1/16, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy 
 wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS
 To: Azores@googlegroups.com
 Date: Tuesday, November 1, 2016, 6:31 PM
 
 i was looking for something else and
 came across this one
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html
 
 marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria
 
 so i went looking for his baptism
 
 is this it?
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html
 
 the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793
 - this was the only one
 
 wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off
 
 the marriage for her has paes incognito
 
 what is the word after Ignácia Maria?
 
 here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html
 
 says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and
 maria sao joao
 
 i'll try to find her
 
 thank you
 
 carmen
 
 found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother
 
 
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
    
     
 
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[AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP WITH TRANSLATIONS

['carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy]

i was looking for something else and came across this one

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-C-1811-1819_item1/P93.html

marriage of Jozé Maurício to Ignácia Maria

so i went looking for his baptism

is this it?

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800/PIC-MD-MADALENA-B-1785-1800_item1/P183.html

the years are off - i had figured 1790 but this one is 1793 - this was the only 
one

wondering if Ignácia Maria's age is off

the marriage for her has paes incognito

what is the word after Ignácia Maria?

here's their daughter maria augusta's baptism - top right

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1833-1836_item1/P125.html

says Ignácia Maria is the daughter of manoel rodriques and maria sao joao

i'll try to find her

thank you

carmen

found a baptism for maria augusta's older brother

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817/SMG-PD-SAOJOSE-B-1814-1817_item1/P90.html








  
   
    

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a date please

[Cheri Mello]

Yes on the dates.
I have only heard of one other case of 2 living boys with the same name. I
believe it was Rick Pimentel who had it.

I'd double check though and make sure the priest didn't have too much vinho
and put the death note on the wrong José. Cheri

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RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a date please

[aportugee via Azores Genealogy]

Please ignore this post with my apologies.  I’ve been at this to long today and 
got different Jose’s from different families confused.  Mea Culpa.

Sam Koester (Camas, WA)

From: aportugee via Azores Genealogy
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Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Need help with a date please

Jose, bottom right.  Is the baptismal date 28 Mar 1887 and birth date 20 Mar 
1887?  I also have his obit 4 May 1890, 3 yrs. old. 
It is curious because there is another Jose, my grandfather born 11 May 1883, 
same parents and grandparents. (I have his birth record.)  Why would they name 
a son born after a still living son with the same name?  I know many girls are 
named Maria and then go by their second name but; I wasn’t aware that it 
happened with sons as well.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889_item1/P126.html

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Jose, bottom right.  Is the baptismal date 28 Mar 1887 and birth date 20 Mar 
1887?  I also have his obit 4 May 1890, 3 yrs. old. 
It is curious because there is another Jose, my grandfather born 11 May 1883, 
same parents and grandparents. (I have his birth record.)  Why would they name 
a son born after a still living son with the same name?  I know many girls are 
named Maria and then go by their second name but; I wasn’t aware that it 
happened with sons as well.

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889/SMA-VP-SAOPEDRO-B-1880-1889_item1/P126.html

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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

['Philippe GARNIER' via Azores Genealogy]

Hi Carmen,
"why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa".
His parents are Antonio da Costa and Umbelina Francisca. The parents of 
Umbelina Francisca are Francisco Soares e Maria de Matos. O "Soares" is from 
his maternal grandfather.The composed surname of the portugues people is, the 
more frequently, an association of a paternal surname and a maternal surname. 
It's very frequent that a child have not the same surname of the father. The 
complete surname of Jacinto is "Soares Oliveira". Then, probably, there is an 
"Oliveira" in the ascendants of Antonio da Costa.
The godfather of Maria and the "procurador" of the madrinha are children of 
Antonio Soares Rebelo. Probably from the Francisco Soares family.The godfather 
of Teresa is Francisco Soares son fo Francisca Soares. Probably the brother of 
Umbelina Francisca. And the "procurador" of the godmother is José Soares. 
Probably from the Francisco Soares family.The dois  "procuradores" of the 
godparents of Antonio are"Francisco Soares de Oliveira priest", probably a 
parent of Jacinto Soares Oliveira, and João Francisco Soares, Probably from the 
Francisco Soares family. Philippe Garnier Paris - France 
http://philippegarnier112.wixsite.com/familiasilhaterceira/copie-de-familias-da-ilha-terceira


 

Em Quinta-feira, 20 de Outubro de 2016 21:34, 'carmen furtado' via Azores 
Genealogy  escreveu:
 

 thank you jeremy

i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares

maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html

thereza
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html

antonio
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
  
then no births after that at matriz

i figure jacinto was born around 1799

the family probably moved

is there another igreja nearby besides matriz

here's the link again for his and his parents marriage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa

thank you

carmen





  
   
    

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wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
 
 marriage of jacinto
 soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina? 
 
 YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
 I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
 
 his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
 Francis - she is deceased? 
 her parents are
 José Monis and Maria da Estrella 
 
 YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
 DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
 ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
 
 here
 is jacinta's baptism in 1804? 
 
 YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
 
 could this be António da
 Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
 
 
 YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
 IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
 100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
 7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
 
 
 
 Hope this is
 of some help!
 
 Jeremy
 
 
 
 
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

[Rosemarie Capodicci]

Carmen, you need to go to Kathy Cardoza's website:
AzoresGenWeb (just google it) and read the articles about names, how to to
Portuguese Research,  etc. The Portuguese are not like the Spaniards with
their naming, they could take whatever they wanted; sometimes the
godparent, sometimes the grandparent, sometimes the greatgrandparent!

Rosemarie
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Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores,
Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> thank you jeremy
>
> i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares
>
> maria
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html
>
> thereza
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html
>
> antonio
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
>
> then no births after that at matriz
>
> i figure jacinto was born around 1799
>
> the family probably moved
>
> is there another igreja nearby besides matriz
>
> here's the link again for his and his parents marriage
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
>
> why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
>  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
>  Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
>
>  marriage of jacinto
>  soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina?
>
>  YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
>  I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
>
>  his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
>  Francis - she is deceased?
>  her parents are
>  José Monis and Maria da Estrella
>
>  YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
>  DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
>  ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
>
>  here
>  is jacinta's baptism in 1804?
>
>  YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
>
>  could this be António da
>  Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
>
>
>  YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
>  IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
>  100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
>  7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
>
>
>
>  Hope this is
>  of some help!
>
>  Jeremy
>
>
>
>
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Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP

[Cheri Mello]

Carmen,

Go to the Azores GenWeb and click on the words "Maps, Churches, and
Villages." Pick your island. Look at your freguesia. Start searching
adjacent freguesias. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~azrwgw/

Cheri Mello
Listowner, Azores-Gen
Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas,
Achada

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:34 PM, 'carmen furtado' via Azores Genealogy <
azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> thank you jeremy
>
> i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares
>
> maria
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html
>
> thereza
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html
>
> antonio
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
>
> then no births after that at matriz
>
> i figure jacinto was born around 1799
>
> the family probably moved
>
> is there another igreja nearby besides matriz
>
> here's the link again for his and his parents marriage
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html
>
> http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-
> VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html
>
> why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa
>
> thank you
>
> carmen
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy <
> azores@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
>  To: "Azores Genealogy" 
>  Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
>
>  marriage of jacinto
>  soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina?
>
>  YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
>  I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
>
>  his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
>  Francis - she is deceased?
>  her parents are
>  José Monis and Maria da Estrella
>
>  YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
>  DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
>  ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
>
>  here
>  is jacinta's baptism in 1804?
>
>  YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
>
>  could this be António da
>  Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
>
>
>  YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
>  IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
>  100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
>  7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
>
>
>
>  Hope this is
>  of some help!
>
>  Jeremy
>
>
>
>
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thank you jeremy

i was able to find siblings for jacinto soares

maria
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1775-1786_item1/P277.html

thereza
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P23.html

antonio
http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-B-1786-1795_item1/P70.html
  
then no births after that at matriz

i figure jacinto was born around 1799

the family probably moved

is there another igreja nearby besides matriz

here's the link again for his and his parents marriage

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1763-1812_item1/P130.html

http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836/SMG-VF-SAOMIGUEL-C-1820-1836_item1/P45.html

why is his last name soares when his father's is da costa

thank you

carmen





  
   
    


On Wed, 10/19/16, 'Jeremy B-C' via Azores Genealogy  
wrote:

 Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] NEED HELP
 To: "Azores Genealogy" 
 Date: Wednesday, October 19, 2016, 10:20 PM
 
 marriage of jacinto
 soares to jacinta rosa in 1821 guerabina? 
 
 YOU GOT THE NAMES CORRECT, BUT
 I READ THE DATE AS OCT 29 1823 N0T 1821
 
 his parents are António da Costa and Umbelina
 Francis - she is deceased? 
 her parents are
 José Monis and Maria da Estrella 
 
 YES, AND AT LEAST ONE OF THE GRROMS PARENTS IS
 DECEASED.  DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT I THINK IT MIGHT
 ACTUALLY BE DEFUNCTAS.
 
 here
 is jacinta's baptism in 1804? 
 
 YEP! I WOULD READ IT AS NOVEMBER 5th 1804
 
 could this be António da
 Costa and Umbelina Francis' marriage - what is the year?
 
 
 YES, I THINK YOU HAVE
 IT.  I READ THAT DATE AS THE 8th OF DECEMBER 1781.  NOT
 100% SURE ON THE 8th, BUT I READ THE ONE BEFORE IT AS THE
 7th, AND THE ONE AFTER IT AS THE 10th.
 
 
 
 Hope this is
 of some help!
 
 Jeremy
 
 
 
 
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