Re: burning the ground?

2002-03-10 Thread Peter Michael Bacchus



Hello Jasminka, I say trust you own judgment and 
clear as much as you can without burning. Think of all the compost material that 
you have to fertilise your garden with in the future. The fruit trees would not 
do well with burning. Pruning first then perhaps burn the the woody bits. What 
we do not know is how much time and energy you have for this 
project.
Best wishes, 
Peter.


- Original Message - 

  From: 
  Jasminka 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2002 9:41 
  PM
  Subject: burning the ground?
  
  
  Hello all
  
  I am sorry if what I send is a trivial queastion, but I don't have the 
  exerience from which I would come to decision. So, please help.
  
  I have boughta piece of land (3 acres, hill, Croatia - continental 
  climate) that has been untouched for 4-7 years.
  South-eastern sidehas beenunder corn as monoculture 
  (conventional agriculture for 10 years) - todaylots of grass, 
  andslowly developingbush(sorry,don't know 
  thename in english)
  
  Nort-western side- long time ago there has been 
  
  1. one partorchard
  Today some trees under all overgrown in lots of wild raspberies and 
  different weed, and dogwood (thick bush 10 yards by 10 yards) and wild rose 
  (rosa canina)
  
  2. one part garden (today in fern and thick dogwood)
  
  Also, there are lots of wild strawberries that I can see on borders to 
  neighbours.
  This all is so overgrown that it is hard to walk through.
  
  Local folks sugest that we should burn everything to be able to work on 
  land (gardening mainly). I think that this is not a good idea, but I don't 
  know. 
  Can you give me opinion on that? Is there a time to burn it when it would 
  only clear up the fern and not hurt plants like wild raspberies and roses. 
  Will yarrow and burdock grow again if we burn the ground?
  
  Thank you
  Jasminka


Re: Official BD in Brazil

2002-03-10 Thread Merla

Jose, Hedleys, anybody,

When I read all this about Brazil BD not working, it makes me wonder
about what I am doing on the road right-of-way.  It sounds like it might not
work to just spray Pfeiffer Field Spray on very sandy, dry soil.  Right
now, my ability to use it is in question and I'm waiting for a resolution.
Should I actually get a soil test of the road right-of-way and try to add
soil amendments?  We are trying to grow native plants and grasses and
discourage plants that have been named noxious by the state and county
so they won't spray us with 2,4-D and Clopyralid.  You wouldn't want to
have garden soil, would you?  Anyway, how could you accomplish
this on 8 miles of road?  We wanted to use the Pfeiffer Field Spray
so that we wouldn't have to make all those trips down the road with BC,
500, 501, 508, Horn clay.  I need to learn how to make preps myself so
no one has to pay the state a fee to register a BD prep as a soil amendment.
We have peppers for all the weeds and wanted to spray them in  BD preps.
The Hedleys suggested three sprayings a long time ago when I first
started on this list.  I still haven't firmed down what we're going to do,
but I feel we should do something to help the soil, especially since the
county sprayed it in 1999.

We are planning to plant allelopathic plants--rye and oats--to compete
with the weeds and then eventually seed native plants we do want.

Merla


Jose Luiz Moreira Garcia wrote:

 From what I have seen there was very little
 Composting operation with regard to the size of
 the whole farm.
 Secondly, one can enhance nature´s way by adding
 some key minerals that are in short supply in our
 geologically old and eroded tropical soils. Lack of nodulation
 in legumes could very well be a lack of Molybdenum,
 as I have noticed there.
 In a soil without a good microbial life one can expect little to
 no transmutation and therefore I see no chance to correct
 any defficiency without adding what is missing.
 This strategy is highly criticized as being  non sustainable
 by those fanatics and the situation goes on and on. They regard
 adding outside farm supplies almost like a sin. They want to free
 themselves from the system and so do I but in a situation like
 that I don´t think it is intelligent to condemn your soil to
 starvation simply because they decided that this is non-sustainable
 In my oppinion there should be a another way to face the situation.
 Some criteria has to be found like level of microbial activity, level
 of nutrients, etc...
 Finally, BD is a proven system worldwide and if it does not work in
 a particular farm or particular region it should be seen simply as
 incompetence from those who are running those places and in our
 particular case the official Demeter people.

 Jose

 
  On Friday, March 8, 2002, at 07:07 AM, Rural Center for Responsible
  Living wrote:
 
   Dear Bonnie,
  
   Rudolf Steiner made it very clear in the  lectures to farmers that the
   preparations were meant to enhance a sound animal based compost
   fertility
   management program.
 
  Thanks Christy. Yes. This was my understanding.
   I am a little confused at the Brazilian practices described by
   Jose, since most of the preparations are to be added to compost, and to
   think of adding compost for 27 years and see no results? Were they even
   composting?
 
  That is why I was confused about him telling of folks using the preps
  alone. It sounded like they might not even be making compost.
 
  Bonnie York
 




Re: Watering the garden

2002-03-10 Thread Allan Balliett

Probably not a problem in your area, Tom, but you have to watch 
irrigation ditch water as a possible source of highly contaminated 
runoff from your chemically managed neighbors. I read a study a while 
back that California farmers who were trash pumping 'lost water' on 
their off days (water that escaped from other farms and was fair game 
for other growers downstream to use even if it wasnt' their water 
day) were getting up to 3x as much insecticide as the maximum 
recommended dosages. Of course, since these insecticides were not 
'applied,' it's presence didn't affect subsequent applications of 
more insecticides on the farm.

-Allan

PS But, boy, do I wish that we had an irrigation system here on the 
west coast. Praise to the 19th cent Mormons, eh?

The place I just moved to have an incredible amount of iron in the 
water (its from the well, not rusty pipes).  Is there any problem 
watering vegatables with this?  I also have access to an irrigation 
ditch which I believe has less iron content - that is used for the 
fruit trees, but is not something I'd normally use for the raised 
beds.  Can an excess of iron influence crop growth or taste?
Thanks in advance,
Tom




Quantum Ether was Liquid Space: The Vacuum is a Viscous EthericFluid

2002-03-10 Thread Allan Balliett

from Curtis at Global News [EMAIL PROTECTED]

New Scientist.com


Liquid space

There's so much going on in a vacuum that it's beginning to look like 
a substance in its own right. Paul Davies offers you a guided tour of 
the quantum ether

IS SPACE just space? Or is it filled with some sort of mysterious, 
intangible substance? The ancient Greeks believed so, and so did 
scientists in the 19th century. Yet by the early part of the 20th 
century, the idea had been discredited and seemed to have gone for 
good.

Now, however, quantum physics is casting new light on this murky 
subject. Some of the ideas that fell from favour are creeping back 
into modern thought, giving rise to the notion of a quantum ether.

This surprising revival is affording new insights into the nature of 
motion through space, the deep interconnectedness of the Universe, 
and the possibility of time travel. Ingenious new experiments may 
even allow us to detect the quantum ether in the lab, or harness it 
for technological purposes.

If so, we'll have answered a question that has troubled philosophers 
and scientists for millennia. In the 5th century BC, Leucippus and 
Democritus concluded that the physical universe was made of tiny 
particles-atoms-moving in a void. Impossible, countered the followers 
of Parmenides. A void implies nothingness, and if two atoms were 
separated by nothing, then they would not be separated at all, they 
would be touching. So space cannot exist unless it is filled with 
something, a substance they called the plenum.

If the plenum exists, it must be quite unlike normal matter. For 
example, Isaac Newton's laws of motion state that a body moving 
through empty space with no forces acting on it will go on moving in 
the same way. So the plenum cannot exert a frictional drag-indeed, if 
it did, the Earth would slow down in its orbit and spiral in towards 
the Sun.

Nevertheless, Newton himself was convinced that space was some kind 
of substance. He noted that any body rotating in a vacuum-a planet 
spinning in space, for example-experiences a centrifugal force. The 
Earth bulges slightly at the equator as a result. But truly empty 
space has no landmarks against which to gauge rotation. So, thought 
Newton, there must be something invisible lurking there to provide a 
frame of reference. This something, reacting back on the rotating 
body, creates the centrifugal force.

The 17th century German philosopher Gottfried Leibniz disagreed. He 
believed that all motion is relative, so rotation can only be gauged 
by reference to distant matter in the Universe. We know the Earth is 
spinning because we see the stars go round. Take away the rest of the 
Universe, Leibniz said, and there would be no way to tell if the 
Earth was rotating, and hence no centrifugal force.

The belief that space is filled with some strange, tenuous stuff was 
bolstered in the 19th century. Michael Faraday and James Clerk 
Maxwell considered electric and magnetic fields to be stresses in 
some invisible material medium, which became known as the 
luminiferous ether. Maxwell believed electromagnetic waves such as 
light to be vibrations in the ether. And the idea that we are 
surrounded and interpenetrated by a sort of ghostly jelly appealed to 
the spiritualists of the day, who concocted the notion that we each 
have an etheric body as well as a material one.

But when Albert Michelson and Edward Morley tried to measure how fast 
the Earth is moving through the ether, by comparing the speed of 
light signals going in different directions, the answer they got was 
zero.

An explanation came from Albert Einstein: the ether simply doesn't 
exist, and Earth's motion can be considered only relative to other 
material bodies, not to space itself. In fact, no experiment can 
determine a body's speed through space, since uniform motion is 
purely relative, he said.

Sounds OK so far, but there was one complication: acceleration. If 
you are in an aeroplane flying steadily, you can't tell that you're 
moving relative to the ground unless you look out of the window, just 
as Einstein asserted. You can pour a drink and sip it as comfortably 
as if you were at rest in your living room. But if the plane surges 
ahead or slows suddenly, you notice at once because your drink slops 
about. So although uniform motion is relative, acceleration appears 
to be absolute: you can detect it without reference to other bodies.

Einstein wanted to explain this inertial effect-what we might 
commonly call g-forces-using the ideas of the Austrian philosopher 
Ernst Mach. Like Leibniz, Mach believed that all motion is relative, 
including acceleration. According to Mach, the slopping of your drink 
in the lurching aeroplane is attributable to the influence of all the 
matter in the Universe-an idea that became known as Mach's principle. 
Einstein warmed to the idea that the gravitational field of the rest 
of the Universe might explain centrifugal and other 

Re: Official BD in Brazil

2002-03-10 Thread Rural Center for Responsible Living

Dear Merla,

Isn't there a whole community helping you with this project? Would you be
spraying from a truck?

National Coalition for Alternatives to Pesticides, 541-344-5044 (NCAP) in
Oregon would be an excellent resource to refer you  to already existing
naturally managed roadside projects. What I have found with grant writing,
etc is that people love 'models'. If you could hold up some succseful models
of other naturally managed roadsides, I feel this would help gain support
for your cause, and also give you a little guidance and structure to what
you are trying to accomplish. No sense in reinventing the wheel. And then
you take it one step further by using the BD sprays. So don't give up on
using the sprays, but that little 8 mile eco system is probably way out of
wack , and most likely needs some organic matter. The rye and oats that you
mentioned will certainly contribute to that through their root systems,
while also building soil structure. An ideal cover would have at least 5
different varieties, and you should consider at least incorporating one
nitrogen fixining legume. Some kind of clover, would really be important in
this situation. I could talk to my husband, if you really wanted some
suggestion of what kind of clover, etc...(he is really into cover crops) I'm
not sure, maybe planting the roadside in a diversified cover with rye and
oats, plus Pfeiffer spray would be plenty with out additional compost.

Are there any organic farmers in your area? That would be some one else to
turn to for advice on developing a suitable cover and building the soil up.

Christy


- Original Message -
From: D  S Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 5:50 AM
Subject: Re: Official BD in Brazil


 Merla: I think you are getting in over your head.
 Anyone: Isn't there someone with US experience who can advise on this? 8
 miles of road is a large area and could cover a lot of different soils and
 weeds, this has the potential of being very embarrassing for Merla and not
 good for BD.
 David C




Re: FWD:Saharasia

2002-03-10 Thread Frank Teuton


the goats will still
  thrive until they have ate every bush and shrub to the bare roots - have
  seen this in the Australian bush a number of times with ferals - its not
 the
  goats fault - they are the most amazing critters to rejuvenate degraded
  range land when they are controlled in the appropriate numbers - too
many
  uncontrolled and they become the destroyers - desertification is a
  management problem pure and simple caused by greed.
  Goats are experts at gettin out of control too !!
  Lloyd Charles

Also caused by a dingo shortage, too, eh? When we kick out the predators we
better be ready to fill in their nicheincluding the whole herd control
thing.




Re: Solara's March Surf Report

2002-03-10 Thread jsherry

Hi David C,
I did some checking and one of my teachers, a Reiki master, who  (among many
other qualifications in traditional and vibrational therapies) has worked
with Solara in the past leading up to the 11:11. In her opinion Solara
provided a powerful service to the planet during that time.

Blessings,
Jane

Here is Solara's bio from her website:

One of the true visionaries of our time, Solara is widely respected for her
integrity, courage and dedication. She facilitated the 11:11 Planetary
Activation in 1992 in which well over 100,000 people participated worldwide.
She describes herself as an intrepid explorer into the Unknown, going where
few have dared go before. . . into the undiscovered subtle realms of the
Invisible.

Solara is not a guru, nor does she have followers, rather she serves as a
catalyst to activate us into our own mastery so we may live in the Greater
Reality. Solara is also not a channel. She simply embodies her vastness;
something which is available to all of us.


Solara has a rare gift of expressing the unexpressible, communicating with
clarity, power, grounded practicality, strong love and humor. Her message
calls us to embrace our vastness so we can anchor it into the physical and
become Vibrantly Alive. To become integrated Earth-Star Beings. In other
words, how to be real in an unreal world!

Although she avoids media attention whenever possible, articles about her
have appeared in US News  World Reports  numerous other publications
throughout the world. Entire television programs have been devoted to her in
Brazil  articles have appeared in Australia describing the Solara
Phenomenon.

Traveling widely throughout the planet since 1987, Solara has helped
activate many through talks, workshops, MasterClasses, Star-Borne Reunions
and Planetary Activations. She has helped many to step free of duality,
anchor their beings in Oneness and love with the One Heart. She is a true
revolutionary of the spirit!

Since 1991 Solara has presented numerous Star-Borne events in: Argentina,
Australia, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Croatia, Ecuador, Egypt, England,
Finland, Germany, Hong Kong, Ireland, Italy, New Zealand, Norway, Peru,
Scotland, Slovakia, Slovenija, Sweden, Switzerland, Tahiti  the US.

Solara is the founder of Star-Borne Unlimited which was created in 1986 to
publish her books and act as a focus for the Great Awakening into Oneness.
She is the author of six beloved metaphysical classics:


How to LIVE LARGE on a Small Planet
11:11
EL*AN*RA
The Star-Borne
The Legend of Altazar
Invoking Your Celestial Guardians

- Original Message -
From: D  S Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2002 12:55 AM
Subject: Re: Solara's March Surf Report


Jane: Thank you for this post. it feels right. Who is Solara?
David C





RE: CEc balancing I for ornamental

2002-03-10 Thread Stephen Barrow

Jane,

Yes, the Rescue Remedy is diluted 10 drops per litre of water and sprayed
over the transplants, as soon as possible after transplanting, and then last
thing again before the end of the day.

Stephen Barrow






The Healer Within-Breath Practice by Dr. Roger Jahnke

2002-03-10 Thread jsherry

http://www.healerwithin.com/Index.html

The Healer Within-Breath Practice by Dr. Roger Jahnke

It is a bit unusual to us in the western world to consider the importance of
breathing techniques. After all, we are always breathing, aren't we? It
seems a little silly to put extra attention to something we do naturally.
Notice your own breathing. Isn't each breath actually very shallow? Does
your posture or position encourage or restrict your ability to take full
breaths? If you note carefully you will probably realize that you are
utilizing one quarter or less, of your lung capacity.

The presence of special breathing practices in the ancient cultures has
always been a mystery to people in the Western world. There are numerous
beneficial physiological mechanisms that are triggered when we turn our
attention to the breath and then increase it's volume. When volume, rate and
attention level are all altered, dramatic physiological, and even emotional,
changes can occur. As it turns out, unknown to science until very recently,
the action of the lungs, diaphragm and thorax are a primary pump for the
lymph fluid, a lymph heart. This mechanism may be more important to the
lymph heart than body movements. In addition, the breath is the source for
oxygen which is the key element in the body's ability to produce energy. And
the act of relaxed, full breathing moves the function of the autonomic
nervous system towards balance or homeostasis. (Please see the section on
physiology in The Most Profound Medicine for a complete revelation of the
mechanisms initiated by Qigong).

From the traditions of the ancients we know that breathing practices are
important. Why would they continue to employ techniques that were
ineffective? Empirical science, the scientific method of all original
cultures, is based on trial and error. That which has value is kept and
employed. That which is found to have little or no value is dropped. In the
empirical approach, that which is kept, is tried and true. Empirically
breath practice is tried and true.

We also know that these practices are important through clinical experience.
Patients who have learned and used breath practice as a part of their daily
personal system of self-applied health enhancement respond more quickly to
treatment, no matter what type of physician they are seeing. Individuals who
are well are able to remain more well, adapt to greater stress and have
greater endurance when they keep breath practice in their daily self-care
ritual.

Inspiration is the rush that one feels when over taken by spiritual energy,
it is the force that impels one forward into life, and it is the divine
influence that brings forth creativity and vitality. Inspiration is, also,
to breath in . The breath is a link to the most profound medicine that we
carry within us. Within this nearly unconscious gesture, a breath, that we
enact 1,261,440,000 (1 and 1/4 billion) times in our life span there is a
simple yet profound healing capability.

Our first act when we emerge from the womb is to inspire. Our last act is to
dis-inspire or expire. These breaths, first in and finally out, are like
parentheses that encompass our corporal life. It is no surprise that the
breath would be so remarkably linked to the power of healing.






BD photography

2002-03-10 Thread Hilary Wright

Several people were kind enough to respond to my request for photographs of
BD vegetables, gardens, prep-making etc for my forthcoming book.

Thank you!

Unfortunately, due to a catastropic misunderstanding on my part re how to
back up Outlook Express files, I have lost over a year's emails and
addresses. That means I have no record of who sent information about
photograhy (or of anything else, for that matter.)

I have just received submission details from the picture researcher (whom I
am also chasing for confirmation of fees she will pay.) Unfortunately all
material has to be sent to the UK by mail, either as slides or on CD-Rom.

Would anyone still interested in submitting photographs please be kind
enough to contact me privately for details of what to send and where to send
it. I'm really sorry this is turning out to be so long-winded.

Thanks so much -
Hilary




Re: Official BD in Brazil

2002-03-10 Thread Merla

David,

Thanks for responding.  The soil type is the same--glacial till--sandy with
lots of rocks in it.  We also get windblown laos from all the agricultural
fields to the west of us.  It's too late not to do it.  It's a project I've
been working on for about 10 years.  The weeds are the same:  we're named
them.  There's a huge long weed list, but we're just targeting spotted
knapweed, common  tansy, yellow and orange hawkweed, Canada and musk thistle.
Over a long period of time, we've gotten more and more support from road
residents who are willing to do handwork on their own right-of-ways to keep
from being sprayed.  No Spray attitudes are in the majority on this road.

I have in my possession Pfeiffer Field Spray that the county bought for me last
year and paid a lot of money for from JPI. We're just waiting to see what the
state does.  I talked at length on the phone with the lady in charge of
registering and I sent an email to her boss, the Director of Plant Industries,
whom I have met.  They could ask Hugh for ~$1200 in fees to register each
separate BD prep.  There are only two farms I know of in the state that are
certified organic, mine and one down in south Idaho.  I have no clue how many
families Hugh sells to in Idaho, but it can't be many.  He is registered with
the USDA.  If he had to register with every state in the union, he'd be
backrupt.

It's not going to be embarrassing for Merla.  Randy, the Chair of the Weed
Committee, has been harrassing me from the beginning.  He doesnt let an
opportunity pass.  He's even been chastized for it.  An easy solution to this
is not to use the Pfeiffer Field Spray on the road this year and make my own
preps this year.  It's just about buying and selling, not about the
preparations themselves.  People on the Weed Committee, who are supposed to be
neutral, are proponents of herbicide.  Where they should be supporting this
neighborhood project, they are very threatened.  Their paradigm is faulty
because it isn't holistic.  It's not about doing something about the causes of
weed infestation--overgrazing, chemicals, poor soil.  They're trying to cure,
short-term, one of the symptoms--weeds, and they have already failed even
though they spray 1/3 of all the county roads each year.  As you know, every
thing in the ecosystem affects everything else.  When land is owned by a timber
company for miles on top of a hill range and they go in there with a harvester
machine and take out the maximum amount of trees that they can by law, it make
the whole watershed drier.  When those county commissioners in 1999 O.Ked the
contract sprayer sneaking onto our road,  the general public recognized their
motivations and that they were off the wall.  That contributed to their not
getting re-elected.  Idaho code does not mention herbicide.  It talks about
containment, eradication, restoration.  We are doing all those things and we
have $2200 coming to us from the state of Idaho in a cost-share grant.  The
majority of the Weed Committee do not want us to get that money.There are
changes that need to be made and it can at least be made on one road in this
county since we have had a chemically sensitive person who was very sick and we
at present have four persons with cancer, not to mention the dead fish where
the culvert was oversprayed. The state and county recognizes this, but the Farm
Bureau, the organization that most of the Weed Committee belongs to, doesn't

I don't want Hugh Courtney and JPI to pay the state of Idaho a red cent.  Idaho
has all kinds of fees that they charge for every little thing.  Why should he
have to pay the same fee per product as Eli Lilly or Monsanto who sell to most
every family in Idaho?  If I have to do this without BD because it will hurt BD
then that is our road's loss and the loss of Bonner County.  I understand your
concern, and I will take it into my deliberations.

Thanks again for your input,

Merla

D  S Chamberlain wrote:

 Merla: I think you are getting in over your head.
 Anyone: Isn't there someone with US experience who can advise on this? 8
 miles of road is a large area and could cover a lot of different soils and
 weeds, this has the potential of being very embarrassing for Merla and not
 good for BD.
 David C

 - Original Message -
 From: Merla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2002 9:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Official BD in Brazil

  Jose, Hedleys, anybody,
 
  When I read all this about Brazil BD not working, it makes me wonder
  about what I am doing on the road right-of-way.  It sounds like it might
 not
  work to just spray Pfeiffer Field Spray on very sandy, dry soil.  Right
  now, my ability to use it is in question and I'm waiting for a resolution.
  Should I actually get a soil test of the road right-of-way and try to add
  soil amendments?  We are trying to grow native plants and grasses and
  discourage plants that have been named noxious by the state and county
  so they won't spray 

Re: Official BD in Brazil

2002-03-10 Thread Merla

David,

This is exactly what we're trying to do.  Last year, the county put the mowers
under the direction of the Weed Supervisor instead of the Road Supervisor and
our weed taxes that we pay every year went into a rotary mower mowing twice on
the paved part of the road--3 miles.  But it was late in the season when they
got that all together and we were into drought season. You can't use a rotary
mower on a dirt road during drought season.  It's too dusty.  We had a man
volunteer his sickle bar mower to us and just asked the county to pay his
diesel fuel.  Two people went out with him with Men working signs and they
did the other 5 miles.  Then with our new professional Stihl 085 weedwhacker,
my husband and some other men with their own weedwhackers, went along the
right-of-way and did everything that hadn't been done--the goldbricking
ranchers, the 50 absentee properties and by the bridges and mailboxes and the
part away from the road that the mower couldn't reach.  We wrote a good report
with a whole bunch of pictures every .4 mile to prove that we had actually done
it.  We could have have done it without that professional Stihl 085 that the
state bought us.

This was the first year, that we had actually contained the weeds.  We have
enough support now to finish the job.  Maybe we should just use methods that
most people understand--allelopathic plants, mulching, Biocontrols, handwork,
restoration seeding.  I just wanted to add my own touch of BD weed control to
the mix.

I just feel in my heart that the BD would help so much.  We already fabricated
a sprayer with a Shurflo pump and a professional trigger nozzle with adjustable
heads to go on the top of 50 gallon plastic barrels on the back of a pick-up.
They are wasting a lot of money by not letting us use the Pfeiffer field spray
and the spray rig.  We could still spray the weed peppers because they were not
bought.  They were either donated or I made them myself.  It's ashamed that the
Farm Bureau people would rather waste that money than see us succeed.  It's
terribly political to challenge the ole boy network in a small conservative
rural town in the state of Idaho.  They're jealous.  The Farm Bureau is now
funding a demonstration project at CENEX, the local coop store, with plots of
herbicide, do nothing, etc, to show that they too can do what we're doing.
It's so obvious.  The Weed Committee should support both groups...and they
are.  On March7, they voted to continue our moratorium on herbicide spraying.
The important change would be for the Weed Committee to do some serious
research on holistic management--and not spend all the weed budget on
herbicide.  We are now meeting monthly instead of twice a year.  Political work
is very slow and painful.

Merla

D  S Chamberlain wrote:

 Merla: I thought if I tell you what happens here it might help. The
 roadsides are the responsibility of the local council ( your county I think)
 they slash the roadsides about twice a year. If this done when the weeds
 have just flowered it cuts down the weed establishment. It can be done by
 the council using it's own tractor and slasher or they can contract out the
 job to someone else. This has the benefit of making the roadside look neat
 and maintains a nice green ground cover that protects the soil. It also
 reduces the danger of animals running out of long grass in front of cars.
 This way the weeds are put to good use. It also reduces the fire risk.

 The offshoot to this is that once landowners see the roadway in front of
 their property looking good, some not all, then start to take responsibility
 for slashing their section more regularly. Once you have the slasher on the
 tractor it only takes a couple of hours extra to do the roadside after
 you've done your own job.

 This is not the perfect answer, the council has cut backs and reduces the
 area slashed, not all property owners participate and weather can spoil
 programs and plans but it is better and cheaper than spaying large areas.

 Hope this helps
 David C
 - Original Message -
 From: Merla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2002 9:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Official BD in Brazil

  Jose, Hedleys, anybody,
 
  When I read all this about Brazil BD not working, it makes me wonder
  about what I am doing on the road right-of-way.  It sounds like it might
 not
  work to just spray Pfeiffer Field Spray on very sandy, dry soil.  Right
  now, my ability to use it is in question and I'm waiting for a resolution.
  Should I actually get a soil test of the road right-of-way and try to add
  soil amendments?  We are trying to grow native plants and grasses and
  discourage plants that have been named noxious by the state and county
  so they won't spray us with 2,4-D and Clopyralid.  You wouldn't want to
  have garden soil, would you?  Anyway, how could you accomplish
  this on 8 miles of road?  We wanted to use the Pfeiffer Field Spray
  so that we wouldn't have to make all 

Pfeiffer Sprays, registration in Idaho was Re: Official BD inBrazil

2002-03-10 Thread Allan Balliett

Merla - Have you spoken to Courtney about this? I forwarded your mail 
from last week on this topic to him on Friday, but I haven't heard 
back from him.

Thanks

-Allan
I have in my possession Pfeiffer Field Spray that the county bought 
for me last
year and paid a lot of money for from JPI. We're just waiting to see what the
state does.  I talked at length on the phone with the lady in charge of
registering and I sent an email to her boss, the Director of Plant Industries,
whom I have met.  They could ask Hugh for ~$1200 in fees to register each
separate BD prep.  There are only two farms I know of in the state that are
certified organic, mine and one down in south Idaho.  I have no clue how many
families Hugh sells to in Idaho, but it can't be many.  He is registered with
the USDA.  If he had to register with every state in the union, he'd be
backrupt.




Pfeiffer Field Sprays

2002-03-10 Thread Allan Balliett

Merla's situation reminds me of an older topic: Has anyone used the 
Pfeiffer Field Sprays in the last 5 years or so and what have their 
result been?

I have a unit here for using after rye plow down this spring. That 
seems like a very appropriate use for it.

What about other uses and users?

Thanks

-Allan




Merla's BD Weed Control was Re: Official BD in Brazil

2002-03-10 Thread Allan Balliett

Merla - Just HOW MUCH **DID** you folks spend on Pfeiffer Sprays? -Allan


David,

This is exactly what we're trying to do.  Last year, the county put the mowers
under the direction of the Weed Supervisor instead of the Road Supervisor and
our weed taxes that we pay every year went into a rotary mower mowing twice on
the paved part of the road--3 miles.  But it was late in the season when they
got that all together and we were into drought season. You can't use a rotary
mower on a dirt road during drought season.  It's too dusty.  We had a man
volunteer his sickle bar mower to us and just asked the county to pay his
diesel fuel.  Two people went out with him with Men working signs and they
did the other 5 miles.  Then with our new professional Stihl 085 weedwhacker,
my husband and some other men with their own weedwhackers, went along the
right-of-way and did everything that hadn't been done--the goldbricking
ranchers, the 50 absentee properties and by the bridges and mailboxes and the
part away from the road that the mower couldn't reach.  We wrote a good report
with a whole bunch of pictures every .4 mile to prove that we had 
actually done
it.  We could have have done it without that professional Stihl 085 that the
state bought us.

This was the first year, that we had actually contained the weeds.  We have
enough support now to finish the job.  Maybe we should just use methods that
most people understand--allelopathic plants, mulching, Biocontrols, handwork,
restoration seeding.  I just wanted to add my own touch of BD weed control to
the mix.

I just feel in my heart that the BD would help so much.  We already fabricated
a sprayer with a Shurflo pump and a professional trigger nozzle with 
adjustable
heads to go on the top of 50 gallon plastic barrels on the back of a pick-up.
They are wasting a lot of money by not letting us use the Pfeiffer field spray
and the spray rig.  We could still spray the weed peppers because 
they were not
bought.  They were either donated or I made them myself.  It's 
ashamed that the
Farm Bureau people would rather waste that money than see us succeed.  It's
terribly political to challenge the ole boy network in a small conservative
rural town in the state of Idaho.  They're jealous.  The Farm Bureau is now
funding a demonstration project at CENEX, the local coop store, with plots of
herbicide, do nothing, etc, to show that they too can do what we're doing.
It's so obvious.  The Weed Committee should support both groups...and they
are.  On March7, they voted to continue our moratorium on herbicide spraying.
The important change would be for the Weed Committee to do some serious
research on holistic management--and not spend all the weed budget on
herbicide.  We are now meeting monthly instead of twice a year. 
Political work
is very slow and painful.

Merla

D  S Chamberlain wrote:

  Merla: I thought if I tell you what happens here it might help. The
  roadsides are the responsibility of the local council ( your county I think)
  they slash the roadsides about twice a year. If this done when the weeds
  have just flowered it cuts down the weed establishment. It can be done by
  the council using it's own tractor and slasher or they can contract out the
  job to someone else. This has the benefit of making the roadside look neat
  and maintains a nice green ground cover that protects the soil. It also
  reduces the danger of animals running out of long grass in front of cars.
  This way the weeds are put to good use. It also reduces the fire risk.

  The offshoot to this is that once landowners see the roadway in front of
  their property looking good, some not all, then start to take responsibility
  for slashing their section more regularly. Once you have the slasher on the
  tractor it only takes a couple of hours extra to do the roadside after
  you've done your own job.

  This is not the perfect answer, the council has cut backs and reduces the
   area slashed, not all property owners participate and weather can spoil
  programs and plans but it is better and cheaper than spaying large areas.

  Hope this helps
  David C
  - Original Message -
  From: Merla [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, 10 March 2002 9:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Official BD in Brazil

   Jose, Hedleys, anybody,
  
   When I read all this about Brazil BD not working, it makes me wonder
   about what I am doing on the road right-of-way.  It sounds like it might
  not
   work to just spray Pfeiffer Field Spray on very sandy, dry soil.  Right
   now, my ability to use it is in question and I'm waiting for a resolution.
   Should I actually get a soil test of the road right-of-way and try to add
   soil amendments?  We are trying to grow native plants and grasses and
   discourage plants that have been named noxious by the state and county
   so they won't spray us with 2,4-D and Clopyralid.  You wouldn't want to
   have garden soil, would you?  Anyway, how could you 

Re: What Brewer are You using? was Re: BD 508 equesetum

2002-03-10 Thread SBruno75

I am making my own, finally using my BS in marine biology.SStorch




Re: What Brewer are You using? was Re: BD 508 equesetum

2002-03-10 Thread Allan Balliett

I am making my own, finally using my BS in marine biology.SStorch

wanna talk about it?

What are you using as a compost bag?

What are you using for aeration?

For pumping?

For a tank?

(Did I leave anything out?)

thanks

-Allan




Re: Agri-Synthesis® short-lived and overpriced? was Re: Agri-Synthesis® Remedies Tested At UAI

2002-03-10 Thread Gil Robertson

Glen, I have no problem at all, with those who can, dealing direct with what ever
level of information gathering. My point is that for many people, I can teach them
to dowse with accuracy and verifiable (by another dowser) results. I for one, can
not teach anyone to talk to Devas or what ever, in a couple of hours, but I can
set some one on the path to dowsing in that time.

Glen Atkinson wrote:

 Lloyd Charles wrote:
 
  More from the land of oz  - I found this lurking uncompleted on My desktop -
  (Delete is just above the left cursor key if its too out of date)
 
   Gil Robertson wrote
  While one can undoubtable wait for devine revelation, if
  playing
   with a few acres in one situation, but if one is working with many
  properties, as
   Hugh and James are, there is a need to get accurate answers, quickly.
 

 In HAstings NZ last weekend I was chatting with Joke Bloksma from the
 Louis Bolk Institute in Holland, who is here seminaring on Geothean
 observation. I wish to honour her part in the stimulation of these words
 rather than quote our conversation.
 We were discussing the difference between direct perception and dowsing.




Re: Merla's BD Weed Control was Re: Official BD in Brazil

2002-03-10 Thread Gil Robertson

Hi! Folk,
I have been away for a few days and not up with my mail.

Re: road side weed control.

About eight or nine years ago I managed to get through to a Pest Plant officer that
nature will fill every void and spraying weeds is counter productive as when you
knock out one lot another takes their place. One  should instead plant competing
plants that are of a nature that is more desirable. In Oz we have many native
plants, ranging from grasses, through bushes to trees that naturally suppress weeds.

We now have stopped spraying and instead direct seed native species with Oz designed
and built equipment. A two person crew can about fifty kilometres of rip line a day
and each side of a road may have two to five passes, so five to ten Ks a day can be
treated and it is a once only process and in a few years, few if any weeds and no
more cost. In the last few days we have driven about 1,500 Ks and saw about one
hundred Ks in different stages from year one to year seven. It is good to see the
changes and the new bird habitat etc. A selling point I made was that the tree
development helped stop weeds coming from the road into farms. It makes the roads so
much more pleasant to drive along and safer, by reducing cross winds.

Gil





Re: ADMIN: LAST CALL: Questions for James DeMeo

2002-03-10 Thread Gil Robertson

Allan Balliett wrote: Incidentally, Phil Callahan is fond of saying that a
Reichian acculator-based poltice he made for his chest cured him of cancer.

I did not know Phil credited it to Reich. He calls it a Shatnez and uses
Biblical referees.

I have experimented with it and made some design developments to make it easier to
use.

One example:- Fran, my wife a a few days from an advanced Massage Training
workshop, when she broke two or three ribs. The area was too painful to touch and
her use of the left arm made it very painful. If she missed this workshop, her
tactile therapies studies would be put back a year. She wore a Shatnez night and
day and when the workshop came she was fine and could have the area massaged and
could massage without pain. I do not know of a similar recovery and was most
impressed.

Gil




Re: Official BD in Brazil

2002-03-10 Thread Gil Robertson

In South Australia, the adjoining Landowner has responsibility and if they do
not control road side weeds, the District Council does and bills them. Thus
Landowners are interested in my idea of large scale replanting of native
species, that block out weeds.

Gil

D  S Chamberlain wrote:

 Merla: I thought if I tell you what happens here it might help. The
 roadsides are the responsibility of the local council ( your county I think)
 they slash the roadsides about twice a year.