Re: slit functionality...
On Fri, Apr05,02 10:50, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > > From: Kevin Geiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:01:59 -0700 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: slit functionality... > > > > check out xtoolwait! > > where can we get it? > Google, where else?! http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=xtoolwait DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives" -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
Re: slit functionality...
> From: Kevin Geiss <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2002 22:01:59 -0700 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: slit functionality... > > check out xtoolwait! where can we get it? -- FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE 10:50AM up 11 days, 17:35, 31 users, load averages: 0.12, 0.06, 0.02
Re: slit functionality...
check out xtoolwait! here's my .xinitrc. it takes the dockapps a little longer to start up, but i don't have to fiddle with sleeps, and they always start in the correct order. non-slit programs start up immediately, so blackbox and my xterm are up immediately, so i can be typing while the last couple dockapps come up. #!/bin/bash host=`hostname -s` xhost + $HOME/progs/perl/xmodmap_kludge ~/.dvorak | xmodmap - /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e "keycode 223 = F30" # Sleep key /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e "keycode 165 = F33" # calculator key /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e "keysym Super_L = Meta_L Super_L" /usr/X11R6/bin/xmodmap -e "keysym Super_R = Meta_R Super_R" $HOME/progs/perl/t n _logged in xrdb $HOME/.Xdefaults xtoolwait='/usr/X11R6/bin/xtoolwait -timeout 1' export QT_XFT="true" if [[ $host == raven ]]; then export LD_PRELOAD="/usr/lib/libgdkxft.so" fi # # Startup the window manager first # /usr/local/bin/blackbox & wmpid=$! $xtoolwait -mappings 2 bbkeys -t # # Do _not_ put xtoolwait in the background # xtoolwait xterm -j -fa 'nimbus mono' -ls -g 80x24+0-16 -bg black -bd red -cr yellow -fg yellow -sb -sl 5000 +ah -name Run $xtoolwait bbappconf -d $xtoolwait lavaps $xtoolwait wmmon $xtoolwait asmon $xtoolwait wmfire -L1 -s -B0 if [[ $host == raven ]]; then $xtoolwait wmgtemp -s fahrenheit -g block -M 45 fi $xtoolwait aterm -sh 60 -tr -ls -fn 6x10 -g 10x6 -cr green -fg green +sb -name dockterm $xtoolwait /usr/local/bin/wmswallow -focus -geom 64x64 dockterm $xtoolwait wmnet -w -t blue -r red -x 1000 -l -W eth0 $xtoolwait asclock -theme $HOME/.asclock/Freeamp -d -12 -noblink $xtoolwait wmMoonClock -lat 33.40133 -lon 111.55625 $xtoolwait wmSun -lat 33.40 -lon 111.556 $xtoolwait $HOME/scripts/keys if [[ $host == raven ]]; then $xtoolwait ssh ocotillo /usr/local/bin/bbmail -w else $xtoolwait bbmail -w fi xset m 20/10 4 s 0 dpms 300 1200 1500 wait $wmpid On Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:38:40PM -0500, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > I've only been using blackbox for a few months, but it is certainly my > favorite WM in the more than two years I've been using Linux. My only beef > with it so far is the slit... and not so much how it looks or works, but how > programs are loaded into it. > > I've searched through the archives, and seen the hacks people have done to > get dockapps, bbtools, and whatnot to load in a specified order, and to date > I have been unable to get 100% compliance on my machine. About 1 in 4 times > or more, the apps I load into it come in a randy order. > > I saw somewhere, when I was first trying out blackbox, a little application > somebody had written to insure that apps came in in the appropriate order... > but since I didn't know what that meant at the time, I ignored it and > promptly lost the URL. > > I've tried hacks like: > bbrun & > sleep 1 && bbpager & > sleep 1 && wmusic & > etc., but these are not consistent. > > Any _other_ ideas anyone? > > Thanks, > Matthew
Re: slit functionality...
uh... red in face... I discovered that about 30 minutes after I posted to the list... I forgot to look for a "-w" option as most of what I've put in the slit hasn't used it... It looks wonderful now! Matthew On Tuesday 02 April 2002 16:40, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: > In blackbox, only, use the code I contributed to gkrellm. =:) > *injuring arm patting self on back*. First, make sure that you have > "remember screen location at exit amd move to it at next startup" > UN-checked in gkrellm's configuration. Then, restart gkrellm with > "gkrellm -w" and gkrellm will fit quite nicely in blackbox's slit. > > On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 16:37, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > > On Tuesday 02 April 2002 15:08, Derek Cunningham wrote: > > > Agreed... _I_ don't really care anymore, since I've found gkrellm, it > > > solves all of my problems (well, except for bbpager, and bbkeys is > > > iconified). > > > > < ... > > > > > DC > > > > Last I'd tried GKrellM, I hated it -- but I just checked it out again, > > and I have to say I'm very impressed -- I'm able to do everything I was > > doing with dockapps inside it, and then some (except for bbpager, which > > you also noted). > > > > However, I _would_ like to put this in the slit as I use multiple > > workspaces. I just tried wmswallow as follows: > > wmswallow gkrellm gkrellm > > and got a truncated gkrellm inside the slit. How do I get the full > > app to show up? > > > > --Matthew
Re: slit functionality...
--- Mads Martin Jørgensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Apr 02. 2002 21:53]:
> > >
> > > I've tried hacks like:
> > > bbrun &
> > > sleep 1 && bbpager &
> > > sleep 1 && wmusic &
> > > etc., but these are not consistent.
> > >
> > > Any _other_ ideas anyone?
> > >
> >
> > There is no good way. The slit is given windows as they are opened
> > and it basically adds them to the bottom of the stack. The only sure
> > fire way is to force the programs to load in the order you want.
> > Which means icky sleep/delay tricks.
>
> I perform these tricks with the following little 'slit' script. That way
> you only have to do 'slit start' in .xinitrc and if I want to change the
> contents it's easy to restart it. Maybe someone could use it?
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> declare -a apps
> apps[4]="wmweather -s EDDN -metric -mmHg -beaufort"
> apps[3]="wmfire -B"
> apps[2]="wmcalclock -24"
> apps[1]="wmbiff"
>
> num_apps=${#apps[@]}
>
> case "$1" in
> start)
> while [ $num_apps -gt 0 ]; do
> ${apps[$num_apps]} &
> sleep 1
> let "num_apps -= 1"
> done
> ;;
>
> stop)
> while [ $num_apps -gt 0 ]; do
> killall $(echo ${apps[$num_apps]} | awk '{print $1}') &
> let "num_apps -= 1"
> done
>
> ;;
> restart)
> $0 stop
> $0 start
> ;;
> *)
> echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}"
> exit 1
> ;;
> esac
>
> exit 0
>
>
> The script was originally written by my friend Christopher Mahmood, just
> to set the record straight :)
>
> --
> Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk
> "Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
> and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort?"
> -- A. P. J.
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Re: slit functionality...
* Sean 'Shaleh' Perry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [Apr 02. 2002 21:53]:
> >
> > I've tried hacks like:
> > bbrun &
> > sleep 1 && bbpager &
> > sleep 1 && wmusic &
> > etc., but these are not consistent.
> >
> > Any _other_ ideas anyone?
> >
>
> There is no good way. The slit is given windows as they are opened
> and it basically adds them to the bottom of the stack. The only sure
> fire way is to force the programs to load in the order you want.
> Which means icky sleep/delay tricks.
I perform these tricks with the following little 'slit' script. That way
you only have to do 'slit start' in .xinitrc and if I want to change the
contents it's easy to restart it. Maybe someone could use it?
#!/bin/bash
declare -a apps
apps[4]="wmweather -s EDDN -metric -mmHg -beaufort"
apps[3]="wmfire -B"
apps[2]="wmcalclock -24"
apps[1]="wmbiff"
num_apps=${#apps[@]}
case "$1" in
start)
while [ $num_apps -gt 0 ]; do
${apps[$num_apps]} &
sleep 1
let "num_apps -= 1"
done
;;
stop)
while [ $num_apps -gt 0 ]; do
killall $(echo ${apps[$num_apps]} | awk '{print $1}') &
let "num_apps -= 1"
done
;;
restart)
$0 stop
$0 start
;;
*)
echo "Usage: $0 {start|stop|restart}"
exit 1
;;
esac
exit 0
The script was originally written by my friend Christopher Mahmood, just
to set the record straight :)
--
Mads Martin Jørgensen, http://mmj.dk
"Why make things difficult, when it is possible to make them cryptic
and totally illogic, with just a little bit more effort?"
-- A. P. J.
Re: slit functionality...
On Tue, 2 Apr 2002 16:37:34 -0500 "Matthew Weier O'Phinney" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, I _would_ like to put this in the slit as I use multiple > workspaces. I just tried wmswallow as follows: > wmswallow gkrellm gkrellm > ...and got a truncated gkrellm inside the slit. How do I get the full > app to show up? Nothing fancy needed, just add a "-w" (withdrawn) to the command line: gkrellm -w -- Jamin W. Collins
Re: slit functionality...
In blackbox, only, use the code I contributed to gkrellm. =:)
*injuring arm patting self on back*. First, make sure that you have
"remember screen location at exit amd move to it at next startup"
UN-checked in gkrellm's configuration. Then, restart gkrellm with
"gkrellm -w" and gkrellm will fit quite nicely in blackbox's slit.
On Tue, 2002-04-02 at 16:37, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> On Tuesday 02 April 2002 15:08, Derek Cunningham wrote:
> > Agreed... _I_ don't really care anymore, since I've found gkrellm, it
> > solves all of my problems (well, except for bbpager, and bbkeys is
> > iconified).
> < ...
> > DC
>
> Last I'd tried GKrellM, I hated it -- but I just checked it out again, and I
> have to say I'm very impressed -- I'm able to do everything I was doing with
> dockapps inside it, and then some (except for bbpager, which you also noted).
>
> However, I _would_ like to put this in the slit as I use multiple workspaces.
> I just tried wmswallow as follows:
> wmswallow gkrellm gkrellm
> and got a truncated gkrellm inside the slit. How do I get the full app to
> show up?
>
> --Matthew
>
--
%<--%<
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper
bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
Numbers 6:24-26
Re: slit functionality...
On Tuesday 02 April 2002 15:08, Derek Cunningham wrote: > Agreed... _I_ don't really care anymore, since I've found gkrellm, it > solves all of my problems (well, except for bbpager, and bbkeys is > iconified). < ... > DC Last I'd tried GKrellM, I hated it -- but I just checked it out again, and I have to say I'm very impressed -- I'm able to do everything I was doing with dockapps inside it, and then some (except for bbpager, which you also noted). However, I _would_ like to put this in the slit as I use multiple workspaces. I just tried wmswallow as follows: wmswallow gkrellm gkrellm ...and got a truncated gkrellm inside the slit. How do I get the full app to show up? --Matthew
Re: slit functionality...
On Tue, Apr02,02 12:02, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > Maybe bblaunch could be modified (with some source code modification in BB > > as well) to specify which position a dockable app should be in? > > > > Just an idea... expand on it as you see fit. :) > > > > we would have to come up with some way to tell blackbox where to put it. > Seems icky: > Agreed... _I_ don't really care anymore, since I've found gkrellm, it solves all of my problems (well, except for bbpager, and bbkeys is iconified). The whole : sleep n && program1 & sleep n+1 && program 2 & sleep n+n && program 3 & worked for me quite well when I was still using 10 different apps in my slit. DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives" -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
Re: slit functionality...
> > Maybe bblaunch could be modified (with some source code modification in BB > as well) to specify which position a dockable app should be in? > > Just an idea... expand on it as you see fit. :) > we would have to come up with some way to tell blackbox where to put it. Seems icky: put bbpal at +64 put wmmix at +96 put bbpager at + 238 etc.
Re: slit functionality...
On Tue, Apr02,02 11:52, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > > > > I've tried hacks like: > > bbrun & > > sleep 1 && bbpager & > > sleep 1 && wmusic & > > etc., but these are not consistent. > > > > Any _other_ ideas anyone? > > > > There is no good way. The slit is given windows as they are opened and it > basically adds them to the bottom of the stack. The only sure fire way is to > force the programs to load in the order you want. Which means icky sleep/delay > tricks. > > Window Maker solves this in two ways. First, you can drag the docked apps > around and second it remembers their order and their command lines and starts > them for you next time. > > I have been loathe to implement that second option, I am not against the first. Maybe bblaunch could be modified (with some source code modification in BB as well) to specify which position a dockable app should be in? Just an idea... expand on it as you see fit. :) DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives" -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
Re: slit functionality...
> > I've tried hacks like: > bbrun & > sleep 1 && bbpager & > sleep 1 && wmusic & > etc., but these are not consistent. > > Any _other_ ideas anyone? > There is no good way. The slit is given windows as they are opened and it basically adds them to the bottom of the stack. The only sure fire way is to force the programs to load in the order you want. Which means icky sleep/delay tricks. Window Maker solves this in two ways. First, you can drag the docked apps around and second it remembers their order and their command lines and starts them for you next time. I have been loathe to implement that second option, I am not against the first.
Re: slit functionality...
On Tue, Apr02,02 14:38, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote: > I've only been using blackbox for a few months, but it is certainly my > favorite WM in the more than two years I've been using Linux. My only beef > with it so far is the slit... and not so much how it looks or works, but how > programs are loaded into it. > > I've searched through the archives, and seen the hacks people have done to > get dockapps, bbtools, and whatnot to load in a specified order, and to date > I have been unable to get 100% compliance on my machine. About 1 in 4 times > or more, the apps I load into it come in a randy order. > > I saw somewhere, when I was first trying out blackbox, a little application > somebody had written to insure that apps came in in the appropriate order... > but since I didn't know what that meant at the time, I ignored it and > promptly lost the URL. > > I've tried hacks like: > bbrun & > sleep 1 && bbpager & > sleep 1 && wmusic & > etc., but these are not consistent. > > Any _other_ ideas anyone? > bbrun & sleep 1 && bbpager & sleep 3 && wmusic & ... This gives bbpager enough time to load first, then wmusic, and then any other apps after that. DC -- Derek Cunningham [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Human beings act intelligently only after they have exhausted the alternatives" -- Abba Eban Registered Linux User Number 195825
slit functionality...
I've only been using blackbox for a few months, but it is certainly my favorite WM in the more than two years I've been using Linux. My only beef with it so far is the slit... and not so much how it looks or works, but how programs are loaded into it. I've searched through the archives, and seen the hacks people have done to get dockapps, bbtools, and whatnot to load in a specified order, and to date I have been unable to get 100% compliance on my machine. About 1 in 4 times or more, the apps I load into it come in a randy order. I saw somewhere, when I was first trying out blackbox, a little application somebody had written to insure that apps came in in the appropriate order... but since I didn't know what that meant at the time, I ignored it and promptly lost the URL. I've tried hacks like: bbrun & sleep 1 && bbpager & sleep 1 && wmusic & etc., but these are not consistent. Any _other_ ideas anyone? Thanks, Matthew
