Question about cakephp forms and JS
Hi,
I am trying to make a form which collects data on submit. Maybe someone can
help me.
I have a canvas id=canvas
Then I have a form:
?php
echo $this-Form-create('Drawing');
echo $this-Form-input('id');
echo $this-Form-input('name');
echo $this-Form-input('description');
echo $this-Form-input('canvas');
echo $this-Form-end(__('Submit'));
?
When the user clicks submit, I want the page to collect the canvas data,
and send it along with the rest of the post data.
How would I do this?
var canvas = document.getElementById('canvas');
var dataURL = canvas.toDataURL();
Also after submit I would like to store it. Normally I use the upload
plugin from Jose gonzalez, but not sure if it can handle the raw data. So
maybe I need save it first to the server. This will not be a problem. The
main problem is how I can get the dataURL into the forms canvas.
Greets,
Thomas
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
What I hate about cakephp is the lack of basic examples in the documentation. Not even having a proper menu example, pagination example, category example, admin cms section and so on .. is very frustrating for someone new to cakephp. Building the blog tutorial is a start, you need to take it much further. -- Like Us on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/CakePHP Find us on Twitter http://twitter.com/CakePHP --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
What do you find lacking with the documentation? I think we've made great improvements from 2009 when this thread was first started. -Mark -- Like Us on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/CakePHP Find us on Twitter http://twitter.com/CakePHP --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I didn't resurrect the thread, but, while I do agree with you that the documentation is far better than it was in 2009, I find that a lot of advanced features and usage aren't documented. The book is fantastic as a general introduction to Cake and its most common features, but I find myself looking in the core code quite a bit to figure out certain things. But, this isn't necessarily a bad thing - I think that you really should be familiar with the source code if you're going to use Cake. And I also know that it's not possible to have extensive documentation on every single little feature. On Sunday, October 13, 2013 4:42:05 AM UTC-7, mark_story wrote: What do you find lacking with the documentation? I think we've made great improvements from 2009 when this thread was first started. -Mark -- Like Us on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/CakePHP Find us on Twitter http://twitter.com/CakePHP --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Poor documentation On Thursday, May 7, 2009 10:29:55 PM UTC, Nate wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. -- Like Us on FaceBook https://www.facebook.com/CakePHP Find us on Twitter http://twitter.com/CakePHP --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
Well said. There seems to be a growing trend of people posting in this group that seem have little to no idea about working with CakePHP and seem to just want people to do their work for them. Personally I just don't get it, but maybe that 'cos I actually enjoy programming and solving problems... On Jun 17, 3:04 am, calvin cal...@rottenrecords.com wrote: No one is going to do your work for you (no matter how easy you claim it is). And you can't become a successful web develop by being a copy-n-paste programmer. Instead of looking for source code on the web, just read the documentation for Cake and for the components you're trying to use. If you still don't get it, try some tutorials. Then when you run into __specific__ problems with your code, paste a snippet in your post or use pastebin.com to show us what part of your code you're having trouble with. Don't just upload a zip file of your app folder and expect people to debug your program and get it working for you. On Jun 15, 10:12 am, hoss7 hoss...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions i am search in the internet and book.cakephp.org and cakeforge.org and cakeqs.org for find some easy and professional idea(source code) for create CakePHP Auth Component - Users, Groups Permissions but i find noting please help me and if you are professional in cakephp send some code to my email explain step by step(i am new in cake) i want sample code like this:http://www.studiocanaria.com/articles/cakephp_auth_component_users_gr... Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
Oh and Calvin - do you actually work for Rotten Records? That's awesome, I love Acid Bath! I actually work for a few US metal labels too in my freelance capacity! On Jun 17, 3:04 am, calvin cal...@rottenrecords.com wrote: No one is going to do your work for you (no matter how easy you claim it is). And you can't become a successful web develop by being a copy-n-paste programmer. Instead of looking for source code on the web, just read the documentation for Cake and for the components you're trying to use. If you still don't get it, try some tutorials. Then when you run into __specific__ problems with your code, paste a snippet in your post or use pastebin.com to show us what part of your code you're having trouble with. Don't just upload a zip file of your app folder and expect people to debug your program and get it working for you. On Jun 15, 10:12 am, hoss7 hoss...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions i am search in the internet and book.cakephp.org and cakeforge.org and cakeqs.org for find some easy and professional idea(source code) for create CakePHP Auth Component - Users, Groups Permissions but i find noting please help me and if you are professional in cakephp send some code to my email explain step by step(i am new in cake) i want sample code like this:http://www.studiocanaria.com/articles/cakephp_auth_component_users_gr... Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
Try this http://github.com/jedt/spark_plug On Jun 16, 6:45 am, hoss7 hoss...@gmail.com wrote: i want Users, Groups Permissions for Groups, for my website Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
this is my code http://www.box.net/shared/sulzlckko6 Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
Hamed - you need to be clearer about what your problem is else no-one can help you. Jeremy Burns Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com http://www.classoutfit.com On 16 Jun 2010, at 09:22, hoss7 wrote: this is my code http://www.box.net/shared/sulzlckko6 Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
No one is going to do your work for you (no matter how easy you claim it is). And you can't become a successful web develop by being a copy-n-paste programmer. Instead of looking for source code on the web, just read the documentation for Cake and for the components you're trying to use. If you still don't get it, try some tutorials. Then when you run into __specific__ problems with your code, paste a snippet in your post or use pastebin.com to show us what part of your code you're having trouble with. Don't just upload a zip file of your app folder and expect people to debug your program and get it working for you. On Jun 15, 10:12 am, hoss7 hoss...@gmail.com wrote: hi i have serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions i am search in the internet and book.cakephp.org and cakeforge.org and cakeqs.org for find some easy and professional idea(source code) for create CakePHP Auth Component - Users, Groups Permissions but i find noting please help me and if you are professional in cakephp send some code to my email explain step by step(i am new in cake) i want sample code like this:http://www.studiocanaria.com/articles/cakephp_auth_component_users_gr... Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
hi i have serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions i am search in the internet and book.cakephp.org and cakeforge.org and cakeqs.org for find some easy and professional idea(source code) for create CakePHP Auth Component - Users, Groups Permissions but i find noting please help me and if you are professional in cakephp send some code to my email explain step by step(i am new in cake) i want sample code like this: http://www.studiocanaria.com/articles/cakephp_auth_component_users_groups_permissions Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
Why doesn't the solution you forwarded meet your needs? Jeremy Burns Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com http://www.classoutfit.com On 15 Jun 2010, at 18:12, hoss7 wrote: hi i have serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions i am search in the internet and book.cakephp.org and cakeforge.org and cakeqs.org for find some easy and professional idea(source code) for create CakePHP Auth Component - Users, Groups Permissions but i find noting please help me and if you are professional in cakephp send some code to my email explain step by step(i am new in cake) i want sample code like this: http://www.studiocanaria.com/articles/cakephp_auth_component_users_groups_permissions Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
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Re: serious problem with cakephp about CakePHP Auth Component Permissions
Have you read the guide? http://book.cakephp.org/view/1543/Simple-Acl-controlled-Application Jeremy Burns Class Outfit jeremybu...@classoutfit.com http://www.classoutfit.com On 16 Jun 2010, at 05:45, hoss7 wrote: i want Users, Groups Permissions for Groups, for my website Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: simple question about CakePHP syntax
WebbedIT, Cristian, majna Thanks a lot! :-) Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: simple question about CakePHP syntax
This is not a CakePHP question, it is a {HP question.
Your two strings are identical, the only difference is your are
surrounding them in double quotes the first time and single the
second, in neither case are the quotes part of the string.
Nice little explanation here:
http://v1.jeroenmulder.com/weblog/2005/04/php_single_and_double_quotes.php
On Feb 12, 3:40 pm, majna majna...@gmail.com wrote:
http://hr.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php
On Feb 12, 12:50 pm, sebb86 kahlc...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello,
i have a question about some signs. Is the use of this sample
always equal to this 'sample' ?
Thanks!
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Re: simple question about CakePHP syntax
And the big difference is that single quote can't work with variables.
For example:
$name = 'Cristian';
$string = 'Hi, my name is $name';
echo $string; will output - Hi, my name is $name
If you had:
$name = 'Cristian';
$string = "Hi, my name is $name";
the echo $string; output would be - Hi, my name is Cristian
WebbedIT ha scritto:
This is not a CakePHP question, it is a {HP question.
Your two strings are identical, the only difference is your are
surrounding them in double quotes the first time and single the
second, in neither case are the quotes part of the string.
Nice little explanation here:
http://v1.jeroenmulder.com/weblog/2005/04/php_single_and_double_quotes.php
On Feb 12, 3:40pm, majna majna...@gmail.com wrote:
http://hr.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php
On Feb 12, 12:50pm, sebb86 kahlc...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hello,
i have a question about some signs. Is the use of this "sample"
always equal to this 'sample' ?
Thanks!
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simple question about CakePHP syntax
Hello, i have a question about some signs. Is the use of this sample always equal to this 'sample' ? Thanks! Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: simple question about CakePHP syntax
http://hr.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php On Feb 12, 12:50 pm, sebb86 kahlc...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello, i have a question about some signs. Is the use of this sample always equal to this 'sample' ? Thanks! Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: About CakePHP and DB2
Can you be more specific. Do you have a problem with CakePHPs db2
driver? What specifically is not working?
I haven't used many drivers (MySQL and Sqlite) but I would expect them
all to work just by choosing to use them.
From the manual
var $default = array('driver' = 'db2',
'persistent' = false,
'host'= 'localhost',
'login' = 'cakephpuser',
'password'= 'c4k3roxx!',
'database'= 'my_cakephp_project',
'prefix' = '');
On Feb 10, 12:18 am, Hector Mansilla Arias hector.mansi...@gmail.com
wrote:
Hi there!
I need some information about how to use CakePHP with DB2... Anybody
has exprience with that?
I need to use:
- Debian.
- Apache.
- CakePHP.
- DB2.
If anybody did a project link this, please help me with a how-to or
any idea about the implementation...
Thanks a lot!
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About CakePHP and DB2
Hi there! I need some information about how to use CakePHP with DB2... Anybody has exprience with that? I need to use: - Debian. - Apache. - CakePHP. - DB2. If anybody did a project link this, please help me with a how-to or any idea about the implementation... Thanks a lot! Check out the new CakePHP Questions site http://cakeqs.org and help others with their CakePHP related questions. You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
On Fri, Jun 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM, batobat...@gmail.com wrote: No PHP4 support!! My two cents: - Prototype-based ajax. (jQuery is my js framework of choice.) - $ajax-div and $ajax-divEnd is boring - poor sqlite3 support Atenciosamente. -- MARCELO DE F. ANDRADE Belem, PA, Amazonia, Brazil Linux User #221105 http://mfandrade.wordpress.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I just came up with something, It's not something I hate - just an
idea to improve Model (?):
If Model could keep track of queries that it calls debugging would be
simple, I think of something like this:
//in controller:
$this-Thing-clearQueryTrace(); //remove unimportant info
//+
$a = $this-Thing-find('all');
$b = $this-Thing-find('count'); // just examples
//++
debug($this-Thing-getQueryTrace()) // dump every query that was
called between + and ++
In many cases I get the idea how to use stuff (models) from queries
that it generates. It would be convenient if I didn't have to look for
those queries in the table of 70 other queries (in 2nd debug level).
Does it make sense to you?
On 11 Cze, 15:25, jitka (poLK) slunii...@gmail.com wrote:
A bug, is a bug, is a bug.
Feel free to repeat it indefinitely. To me, bug is a bug only if
a) others are able to reproduce it and
b) it is not a feature.
I think you are bug, a bug, a bug, because you don't work for me. Now
decide if you'll close it as wontfix, worksforme or needmoreinfo.
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Hi Grzegorz,
I just came up with something, It's not something I hate - just an
idea to improve Model (?):
If Model could keep track of queries that it calls debugging would be
simple, I think of something like this:
//in controller:
$this-Thing-clearQueryTrace(); //remove unimportant info
//+
$a = $this-Thing-find('all');
$b = $this-Thing-find('count'); // just examples
//++
debug($this-Thing-getQueryTrace()) // dump every query that was
called between + and ++
In many cases I get the idea how to use stuff (models) from queries
that it generates. It would be convenient if I didn't have to look for
those queries in the table of 70 other queries (in 2nd debug level).
Does it make sense to you?
I like this idea!
Jon
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I don't like: --Source code that has no comments other than at the method level-- makes it hard to find the bugs that are afflicting me... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
A bug, is a bug, is a bug. Feel free to repeat it indefinitely. To me, bug is a bug only if a) others are able to reproduce it and b) it is not a feature. I think you are bug, a bug, a bug, because you don't work for me. Now decide if you'll close it as wontfix, worksforme or needmoreinfo. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I hate contributions constraints like: Make a Unit Test when I report a bug or like: Fork the project and use Git when I just want to update the .po file for CookBook. Amen. Search any existing issue with CakePHP and you'll find a ticket where someone reported it as a bug and had it set to wontfix because the dev refused to accept a problem without full tests and patches written by the poster. A bug, is a bug, is a bug. Regardless of how much of a wanker the guy reporting it is or how little info is included, still needs to be a ticket, be looked into, be fixed. -Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
WRONG. Certain bugs require certain circumstances specific to the users problem. If a user simply says this doesn't work, how is the team supposed to fix if they dont know what YOU ARE DOING to cause the problem. Thats what test cases are for On Jun 10, 8:59 pm, Mr-Yellow meisteryel...@gmail.com wrote: I hate contributions constraints like: Make a Unit Test when I report a bug or like: Fork the project and use Git when I just want to update the .po file for CookBook. Amen. Search any existing issue with CakePHP and you'll find a ticket where someone reported it as a bug and had it set to wontfix because the dev refused to accept a problem without full tests and patches written by the poster. A bug, is a bug, is a bug. Regardless of how much of a wanker the guy reporting it is or how little info is included, still needs to be a ticket, be looked into, be fixed. -Ben --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Please do not NEVER EVER going to return database result as array.
those people who want this need to have their head check. do you know
how much pain to debug the results?
The reason I stick with Cakephp is the power model and their return
result in Array (believe me I am fixing a CodeIgniter site and work on
many many zend projects. If I have a say - I use CakePHP).
OK here is my 2 cents. I don't hate Cake. But we could do with a bit
more documentation. Do you know paginator accept a parameter * ?
took me couple months to find that out ... I wish they could list all
the available parameter if they are already there.
Joel
On May 8, 2:08 pm, Smelly Eddie ollit...@gmail.com wrote:
I hate that it is a powerful framework that can make the tedious work
of developing sites a breeze. Its strict adherence to the tried and
true MVC model is a pain point as well. Why so logical?
I hate the active community involvement and powerful documentation and
API sites. I hate that people expect Cake to do every little thing.
It is a framework! Not a solve everything-all-in-one-cms-portal-file-
manager-blog-forum.
Use the framework to create an upload component, it takes all of 5
minutes!!
On May 8, 8:56 am, Dennis S. Hennen dennis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider Post hasMany Comment
Comment-find('all') returns {n}.Comment.*
Post-find('all') gives you Comment.{n}.*
If I want a helper to do processing on a list of comments, I have to
handle both potential formats, or massage the data.
Related to this is the $primary parameter to the afterFind callback.
Perhaps find results as objects instead of arrays?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Lack of a proper documentation Lack of a support forum On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Celso cels...@gmail.com wrote: We love cakePHP ! But...I hope something like this: -- $javascript-validate() -- $ajax-form(.., array( validate = 'myvalidateFunc' ) ) -- $javascript-datepicker() -- $javascript-tooltip() -- self detect Relationship -- php5 = only -- For all your Programming and Technology Information Visit www.BinaryCrunch.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Hmm, http://book.cakephp.org and you just posted on the support forum. I don't hate much - well sometimes I do but normally it's because I'm doing something wrong! I'd like the bake script to be capable of producing more secure code output including using some aspects of the security component, sanitizing user form data, whitelisting form fields etc. This would be pretty helpful in getting apps up and running even more quickly. I'd also like to see bugs/enhancements posted to the tracker to be included in new releases more quickly, but I realise that all changes need to be properly scrutinized so I wouldn't want this to happen at the expense of pushing out buggy releases. Chris On Jun 7, 4:56 pm, Lamonte sche...@gmail.com wrote: Lack of a proper documentation Lack of a support forum --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
We love cakePHP ! But...I hope something like this: -- $javascript-validate() -- $ajax-form(.., array( validate = 'myvalidateFunc' ) ) -- $javascript-datepicker() -- $javascript-tooltip() -- self detect Relationship -- php5 = only --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
We've got a few good goals for the upcoming version... http://thechaw.com/cakephp/wiki/1.3/Hit_List --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I just want to add one minor thing: I don't like that debug() is making print_r() instead of var_dump(), so when I want to debug some variable and see nothing - I know that there's null, false, true or empty string or string full white chars, so I need to make my own debugging with pre tags and var_dump. That just inconvenient On 27 Maj, 14:40, keymaster ad...@optionosophy.com wrote: We've got a few good goals for the upcoming version... http://thechaw.com/cakephp/wiki/1.3/Hit_List --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I had another minor issue too. When changing a table's primary
key, I'd like to just setting this adequately with the $primaryKey
model atribute and the relationships use it.
Personally I hate to have to change $belongsTo relationship to
add the foreignKey parameter too. I'd like if Cake identify the
name used for the other table's primary key and use it as a part
of the convention instead of _id.
For example, I think it could be better if we can do something like
this
class Country extends AppModel {
$primaryKey = 'isocode';
// ^--- primary key defined...
class Trip extends AppModel {
$belongsTo = 'Country';
// ^-- instead of: $belongsTo = array('Country'=
array('foreignKey'= 'country_isocode'))
I know we could use 'country_id' in the database as a foreign
key, but I it not so intuitive.
Best regards.
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- Nested view support llike smarty. Currently, most of view in my project is in elements so that view supports nest. - form-checkbox is unuseful. Cannot insert another logic between each checkboxes by using $options [‘multiple’] = 'checkbox' I create $option['multiple'] = true option for $option['type'] = 'checkbox', and loop these by foreach. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Guys, Thanks so much for all the feedback. Some of it we can act on now, some of it we may be able to act on in the future, and some of it we might never be able to resolve directly, but it's helpful to know what's important to you regardless. We've got a few good goals for the upcoming version, and we'll try to work in any changes that are in-sync with those goals. As always, time is our main limitation, so if you'd like to help out, the 1.3 source code is available on The Chaw (http://thechaw.com/ cakephp/source/branches). We're trying a new approach with orienting branches around features. Anyway, thanks again everyone for the feedback and continued community involvement. We're all working hard to keep CakePHP the best web development platform around. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
One minor niggle-ette for me: I hate how form helpers $form-create() doesn't default to the current actions (it defaults to add). I always end up having to type: ?echo $form-create(User, array(action=$this-action)) ? oh, and another: $html-css() defaults to inline, it should default to putting it in the $script_for_layout. As it doesn't, you have to type: $html-css(my_css, null, array(), false); (same with the $javascript helper too) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Oh yeah, +1 on everything you sad man. That action thing is a real mystery and a major pain. On May 21, 4:49 pm, rich...@home richardath...@gmail.com wrote: One minor niggle-ette for me: I hate how form helpers $form-create() doesn't default to the current actions (it defaults to add). I always end up having to type: ?echo $form-create(User, array(action=$this-action)) ? oh, and another: $html-css() defaults to inline, it should default to putting it in the $script_for_layout. As it doesn't, you have to type: $html-css(my_css, null, array(), false); (same with the $javascript helper too) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
If you still use PHP4 on production servers your framework might not be your biggest problem :-) True that Alex, true that. On May 20, 10:09 am, Alexandru Ciobanu ics.cake...@gmail.com wrote: On 05/20/2009 10:20 AM, Constantin Botnari wrote: Smelly i totally agree with you :) and for all haters of php4 support in cake : people php4 support is vital for an framework !!! that means i can develop my cake app for any php version starting from php4 an ending with php5! its a real pain for an developer if he has to develop an web app and production server is built with php4.. PHP4 support was nice (not vital) one year ago, now it's pretty much useless... As of 2008-08-08 the PHP team completely ignores PHP4; this means not even critical security fixes. If you still use PHP4 on production servers your framework might not be your biggest problem :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
El mié, 20-05-2009 a las 08:19 -0700, avairet escribió: I hate the lack of rigor with relational model and SQL norm. I think compound primary keys, sub-queries, multi-level JOIN should be implemented. It will permit to avoid artificial id in HABTM for example and thus tons of intermediate queries. More data types should be available too (like ENUM and SET for MySQL). +1 I hate the limited internationalisation of core methods like Validate::alphanumeric() or Inflector::slug(). Accented and special chars should be available and mb_ functions might be used, maybe by including localized chars files (setting a var in config/core.php for example). More internationalisation for Validate::phone() or Validate::ssn() would be great too. We can help you to do that: please delegate some responsibilities to the numerous dynamic international communities! +1 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
The reason is primarily that link URLs would be lost I currently use html2text by Jon Abernathy, which retains links as footnotes. it's possible to send an HTML-only email. That's really bad form 100% agree - which is why Cake should default to best practice by automatically creating a text version (if text template is undefined). If you're creating a plain text email, you probably don't want/need an html version. On May 19, 8:13 pm, brian bally.z...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, GreyCells oldgreyce...@googlemail.com wrote: 4. Having to provide text and html bodies for email. (Should be able to create html mail and have Cake write the text version automatically). I disagree with this. I prefer to create 2 versions of the content and echo each variable in its view. The reason is primarily that link URLs would be lost if the content is simply run through strip_tags() for the plaintext version. What I do is run it through a RegExp to append the URL in brackets after the word(s) that would have had the link. I also like to add in newlines where certain headers are so everything isn't jumbled together. And then there's the question of layouts, which will generally be very different. One big annoyance I see in Email, though, is that it's possible to send an HTML-only email. That's really bad form, IMHO. Obviously, this isn't a frustration I'm *subjected to* but I don't think the Cake devs should be encouraging HTML-only email. My SwiftMailer component (much modified from a very old one found at Bakery) defaults to text and creates an HTML version in addition to the plaintext if requested. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Smelly i totally agree with you :) and for all haters of php4 support in cake : people php4 support is vital for an framework !!! that means i can develop my cake app for any php version starting from php4 an ending with php5! its a real pain for an developer if he has to develop an web app and production server is built with php4.. i was so happy when i found this framework easy to use.. with so powerful support for both php versions.. and with understandable MVC model :) i am happy with cake and i really don't want support for php4 to be removed in next releases. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
On 05/20/2009 10:20 AM, Constantin Botnari wrote: Smelly i totally agree with you :) and for all haters of php4 support in cake : people php4 support is vital for an framework !!! that means i can develop my cake app for any php version starting from php4 an ending with php5! its a real pain for an developer if he has to develop an web app and production server is built with php4.. PHP4 support was nice (not vital) one year ago, now it's pretty much useless... As of 2008-08-08 the PHP team completely ignores PHP4; this means not even critical security fixes. If you still use PHP4 on production servers your framework might not be your biggest problem :-) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Thank you for this ironic but serious message Nate! To respect your humoristic formulation, here is my hateful contribution! And sorry for my simple English… hope it's understandable. ;) I hate the lack of rigor with relational model and SQL norm. I think compound primary keys, sub-queries, multi-level JOIN should be implemented. It will permit to avoid artificial id in HABTM for example and thus tons of intermediate queries. More data types should be available too (like ENUM and SET for MySQL). I hate contributions constraints like: Make a Unit Test when I report a bug or like: Fork the project and use Git when I just want to update the .po file for CookBook. I hate the instability of official documentation. Yes CookBook is better than ever, but there are still a lot of sections without explanations, some with obsolete explanations, others that are frequently modified… it's difficult for both newcomers and translators to navigate through it and find the good information. A PDF export – global or partial - would be useful too I hate translation tool and process for CookBook, it is complex, heavy to manipulate, frequently modified and debugged. Ok, there were new features recently developed (thanks to AD7six, Gwoo and others for this work), but is not enough to attract and motivate new translators… Two little suggestions for the moment: give validation rights to locale community AND/OR let us write our own documentation, inspired by, but not a perfect clone of the original. I hate the multi-communicational channels of community : Bakery, official website, Ohloh journal, multiple IRC's chans, multiple GoogleGroups, Trac, TheChaw, CakeFest, unofficial forum, core developpers and contributors blogs… it's like a puzzle! The heterogeneity of designs between those different websites of the Cake's galaxy make it even more disorganized. In the same way, I hate Cake's logo (this cake is more like a cheese �� ) and official website design (not clear enough, too funny and not enough serious for deciders in comparison to Symfony and ZF designs). I hate methods with more than 4 parameters or with mixed parameters (a string or an array or null). I hate Cake's shortcuts that just embbed PHP native functions like e (), up(), low()… (for the majority of PHP's IDE, autocomplete works well for that). I hate the limited internationalisation of core methods like Validate::alphanumeric() or Inflector::slug(). Accented and special chars should be available and mb_ functions might be used, maybe by including localized chars files (setting a var in config/core.php for example). More internationalisation for Validate::phone() or Validate::ssn() would be great too. We can help you to do that: please delegate some responsibilities to the numerous dynamic international communities! Other opinions that I'm supporting too: ++ PHP 4 to full PHP5 syntax ++ ACL more flexibility (e.g. user attached to two groups) ++ Objects instead arrays, especially for find's returns ++ GUI for Bake, because we're not all CLI gurus… hmmm, ok, we should be! �� ++ More complete Bake ++ Plugins management ++ Form::error messages ++ Jquery ++ automagic slug field That's all... for the moment! OK, I know that a framework can NOT make the coffee and that I can create my own logic when needed. But I would like to say that in my point of view, the more Cake will be professional, industrial and rigorous, the more it will be adopted by PHP users and deciders who currently look at Symfony or Zend Framework side, even if Cake is more fun and easy to use. I like Cake and its philosophy, I want to develop its usage and recognition around the World, so let’s work together to make a better Cake! ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I hate that $scaffold does not generate a code archive, so I can learn from it all when baking and customizing etc.. For example, I have a simple unresolved problem that works perfect with simple $scaffold, but getting this to work manually is a pain. The question could be answered if the $scaffold code was available, because it does what I need by default.. Here is my issue for anyone who might be versed enough with cakephp: http://www.nabble.com/fetching-associated-records-from-url-td23640799.html -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Poll%3A-what-do-you-hate-about-CakePHP--tp23436684p23640867.html Sent from the CakePHP mailing list archive at Nabble.com. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:45 AM, GreyCells oldgreyce...@googlemail.com wrote: The reason is primarily that link URLs would be lost I currently use html2text by Jon Abernathy, which retains links as footnotes. Thanks for the tip. I'm going to have a look through that now. But how would this help if you were relying on Cake to create the text version for you? Big FYI, there's a vulnerability (as of last january): http://www.madirish.net/?article=225 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Totaly agree with avairet's comment about the site design... Some clients want to know what tools we use, and when they search about cakephp thinks that is a software for kids. avairet escribió: Thank you for this ironic but serious message Nate! To respect your humoristic formulation, here is my hateful contribution! And sorry for my simple English… hope it's understandable. ;) I hate the lack of rigor with relational model and SQL norm. I think compound primary keys, sub-queries, multi-level JOIN should be implemented. It will permit to avoid artificial id in HABTM for example and thus tons of intermediate queries. More data types should be available too (like ENUM and SET for MySQL). I hate contributions constraints like: Make a Unit Test when I report a bug or like: Fork the project and use Git when I just want to update the .po file for CookBook. I hate the instability of official documentation. Yes CookBook is better than ever, but there are still a lot of sections without explanations, some with obsolete explanations, others that are frequently modified… it's difficult for both newcomers and translators to navigate through it and find the good information. A PDF export – global or partial - would be useful too I hate translation tool and process for CookBook, it is complex, heavy to manipulate, frequently modified and debugged. Ok, there were new features recently developed (thanks to AD7six, Gwoo and others for this work), but is not enough to attract and motivate new translators… Two little suggestions for the moment: give validation rights to locale community AND/OR let us write our own documentation, inspired by, but not a perfect clone of the original. I hate the multi-communicational channels of community : Bakery, official website, Ohloh journal, multiple IRC's chans, multiple GoogleGroups, Trac, TheChaw, CakeFest, unofficial forum, core developpers and contributors blogs… it's like a puzzle! The heterogeneity of designs between those different websites of the Cake's galaxy make it even more disorganized. In the same way, I hate Cake's logo (this cake is more like a cheese 时 ) and official website design (not clear enough, too funny and not enough serious for deciders in comparison to Symfony and ZF designs). I hate methods with more than 4 parameters or with mixed parameters (a string or an array or null). I hate Cake's shortcuts that just embbed PHP native functions like e (), up(), low()… (for the majority of PHP's IDE, autocomplete works well for that). I hate the limited internationalisation of core methods like Validate::alphanumeric() or Inflector::slug(). Accented and special chars should be available and mb_ functions might be used, maybe by including localized chars files (setting a var in config/core.php for example). More internationalisation for Validate::phone() or Validate::ssn() would be great too. We can help you to do that: please delegate some responsibilities to the numerous dynamic international communities! Other opinions that I'm supporting too: ++ PHP 4 to full PHP5 syntax ++ ACL more flexibility (e.g. user attached to two groups) ++ Objects instead arrays, especially for find's returns ++ GUI for Bake, because we're not all CLI gurus… hmmm, ok, we should be! 时 ++ More complete Bake ++ Plugins management ++ Form::error messages ++ Jquery ++ automagic slug field That's all... for the moment! OK, I know that a framework can NOT make the coffee and that I can create my own logic when needed. But I would like to say that in my point of view, the more Cake will be professional, industrial and rigorous, the more it will be adopted by PHP users and deciders who currently look at Symfony or Zend Framework side, even if Cake is more fun and easy to use. I like Cake and its philosophy, I want to develop its usage and recognition around the World, so let’s work together to make a better Cake! ;) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
+1 for the MeioUpload behavior and its seamless integration ... or something similar to be included int the core behaviors. On 19 mai, 07:17, DanielMedia danielmedi...@gmail.com wrote: +1 with Matt Curry on this: Remove Model::recursive. All find calls would return just the model and if you wanted associated models you HAVE TO use Containable. - Built in functionality for custom find types. Right now there are some nice hacks that you can put into your AppModel to define your own custom find types but this should work out of the box. - The MEIO upload behavior (or something like it) could be added to the core. That behavior has greatly simplified managing uploads for me and is quite flexible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- php4 support++ - existence of an AJAX helper ++ - Complex plugin setup ++ - Database i8n (could be a lack of documentation on the current implementation) ++ And with Database i8n I mean the whole process: - Automatically showing translated fields for all languages at once in the form when adding/editing. - Automatically saving them all when saving. - Automatically using the correct one for field when the language is set. On 8 touko, 01:29, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Absolutely, right about form errors.
On May 18, 4:54 pm, dr. Hannibal Lecter lecter...@gmail.com wrote:
Here's another interesting kick in the Matt Groening.
Inability to use FormHelper::error() to show our own errors on the
fly, i.e. $form-error('Arse.biscuits', 'A pair of women's knickers is
missing'); regardless of whether I'm using a model to create a form or
not.
Workaround:
$form-validationErrors['Arse']['biscuits'] = 'Dancing like a mad
eejit is not an allowed action';
echo $form-error('Arse.biscuits');
But why?? Form error should be looking for an validation error message
only if I didn't provide one as a param. Am I the only one who finds
that logical?
On May 18, 2:27 pm, Henrique Machado henri@gmail.com wrote:
What about create a true poll for it?
First create a poll for all suggestions, after create a poll to vote on that
suggestions and voilá =)
Henrique Machado
2009/5/18 Aivaras faifas1...@gmail.com
Hey,
actually the most annoying thing is that we cannot download separate parts
of Cake. It would be cool if advanced users could choose what do they need
for their project, just like mootools made in their download page. I
certainly understand that this is just *wishful thinking* because Cake's
core uses nearly everything :x
Anyway, upload component would be totally usable!
Also, switching from scriptaculous + prototype to jQuery would be awesome.
People would create and share plugins, which means that our lovely
community
would become even bigger and ADmad would be even more mad (sorry AD :x)
Enjoy,
Faifas
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 06:00, Brendon Kozlowski
brendon...@hotmail.comwrote:
Thought of another one.
Paginate settings, and paginate call. Why do they have the same
name? When learning how Cake works, although it's proper OOP to do
so, it's a bit confusing to see:
$this-paginate = array('contain' = 'User');
$this-set('posts', $this-paginate());
I think it would be clearer (from a name the variable what it is
type of coding style) to use something like:
$this-paginateOptions = array('contain' = 'User');
Every time I see $this-paginate when skimming through code, I
immediately see the method, completely forgetting it's also a
property. I hate that. ;)
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Not so much hates, but frustrations when coding new apps (I'm sure you've heard them all before, Nate:) 1. Auth, Session and Email should all be fat models with a thin component interface if required. 2. More callbacks in Auth, Session and Email to allow logging + App specific behaviour. (via App[Auth|Session|Email]) 3. Http Basic/Digest Auth should be in Auth, not Security, so acl etc can be shared easily. 4. Having to provide text and html bodies for email. (Should be able to create html mail and have Cake write the text version automatically). 5. Me, not be disciplined enough with my time to contribute back fully... --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Well, I have been using cake for over a year now. It is a great and powerful framkwork to say the least. It makes a lot of work a lot easier. But, from experience, it has really crappy oracle support. There needs to be more support built in. Oracle is complex, yes, but I cannot even do User.TableName. There is a lot in Oracle that you cannot do in Cake without an a really complicated custom query. I mean custom queries don't even support the * selector. That is a little annoying to me. Otherwise, it is really awesome. On May 7, 6:29 pm, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- No callbacks in associative queries
- Lack of (or not up to date) documentation
- Integrating jQuery instead of Prototype may be better, but I think
I'll still write my own js code by hand to have more control over it
anyway
On 8 mai, 15:08, Smelly Eddie ollit...@gmail.com wrote:
I hate that it is a powerful framework that can make the tedious work
of developing sites a breeze. Its strict adherence to the tried and
true MVC model is a pain point as well. Why so logical?
I hate the active community involvement and powerful documentation and
API sites. I hate that people expect Cake to do every little thing.
It is a framework! Not a solve everything-all-in-one-cms-portal-file-
manager-blog-forum.
Use the framework to create an upload component, it takes all of 5
minutes!!
On May 8, 8:56 am, Dennis S. Hennen dennis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider Post hasMany Comment
Comment-find('all') returns {n}.Comment.*
Post-find('all') gives you Comment.{n}.*
If I want a helper to do processing on a list of comments, I have to
handle both potential formats, or massage the data.
Related to this is the $primary parameter to the afterFind callback.
Perhaps find results as objects instead of arrays?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Upvote for this post. The ACL component was really neat, until I tried to actually use it. It was more difficult to try and use it than to just roll my own. Auth Component works great, I wish ACL worked great with Auth. Also ++ to commenters who asked for more real-world tutorials. The manual is very well done, but it doesn't document very much of what cake does. Even the API isn't totally helpful on a lot of stuff -- you have to dig through source or IRC. The ACL component is a major gripe. For everyone wishing for more tutorials, go write them! For the Cake shortcomings, it's still light years ahead of what I was doing when I was hand coding PHP. Unfortunately, it's been frustrating enough at times that I'm going to take a serious look @ Zend. On May 8, 8:13 am, James K james.m.k...@gmail.com wrote: My biggest request: Think outside the blog tutorial!! A lot of the supporting components work great in the context of a very simple, one controller for one model with 4 actions for CRUD setup, but become impractical or impossible to use outside that. The ACL component is probably the biggest offender of this. So many people have problems with ACL because none of the built-in ACL schemes actually work in the real world. Also the query load is immense - why can't the ACL component pull down an entire tree branch in one query (you use MPTT, so this is pretty easy), then post-process it instead of running a query for every node? Once your tree gets to be of any real size, your application gets crippled under dozens (if not hundreds) of ACL queries. In a large application my company just built, we had to roll our own ACL component for role based permissions because the ACL component simply couldn't do it. We pull down the permissions a branch at a time, and cache them per role. There may be up to 15 ACL checks done in a single action (with full CRUD). If we were to use the built-in ACL check method, we'd be running 15 x 4 checks (one CRUD item at a time). Multiply THAT by a query for every node it has to go down and you can quickly see how this gets out of control. You could say this is way outside the scope of what the ACL component was intended to do, and that's totally fair. My argument is that the ACL component simply doesn't work in any real world scenarios and as such causes an immense amount of grief for people trying to learn how to leverage it in their own applications. I see very confused people post on here every day about ACL and most times, unless they're willing to roll their own ACL component, they're stuck. You'd almost be better off without it. The ORM has issues with being tailored to the blog tutorial as well. Another big issue people seem to have is with HABTM relationships and the inability to direct Cake's use of joins. Once you're forced to fall back to hand-written queries, you lose all the useful callbacks. There must be some middle ground here - even if it means writing your queries in a way Cake can parse and understand. Beyond those sorts of things, Cake remains my framework of choice. All in all, it is EXTREMELY flexible and consistently saves me months of development time. Any issues I can bring up could be considered minor gripes when compared to what Cake DOES get you. Cheers and thanks for your hard work and continued dedication to this project. This is a huge service to PHP developers everywhere. Don't let the whiners get to you ;) - James On May 7, 6:29 pm, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 12:21 PM, GreyCells oldgreyce...@googlemail.com wrote: Not so much hates, but frustrations when coding new apps (I'm sure you've heard them all before, Nate:) 2. More callbacks in Auth, Session and Email to allow logging + App specific behaviour. (via App[Auth|Session|Email]) Excellent suggestion! Second that. 4. Having to provide text and html bodies for email. (Should be able to create html mail and have Cake write the text version automatically). I disagree with this. I prefer to create 2 versions of the content and echo each variable in its view. The reason is primarily that link URLs would be lost if the content is simply run through strip_tags() for the plaintext version. What I do is run it through a RegExp to append the URL in brackets after the word(s) that would have had the link. I also like to add in newlines where certain headers are so everything isn't jumbled together. And then there's the question of layouts, which will generally be very different. One big annoyance I see in Email, though, is that it's possible to send an HTML-only email. That's really bad form, IMHO. Obviously, this isn't a frustration I'm *subjected to* but I don't think the Cake devs should be encouraging HTML-only email. My SwiftMailer component (much modified from a very old one found at Bakery) defaults to text and creates an HTML version in addition to the plaintext if requested. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Hey,
actually the most annoying thing is that we cannot download separate parts
of Cake. It would be cool if advanced users could choose what do they need
for their project, just like mootools made in their download page. I
certainly understand that this is just *wishful thinking* because Cake's
core uses nearly everything :x
Anyway, upload component would be totally usable!
Also, switching from scriptaculous + prototype to jQuery would be awesome.
People would create and share plugins, which means that our lovely community
would become even bigger and ADmad would be even more mad (sorry AD :x)
Enjoy,
Faifas
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 06:00, Brendon Kozlowski brendon...@hotmail.comwrote:
Thought of another one.
Paginate settings, and paginate call. Why do they have the same
name? When learning how Cake works, although it's proper OOP to do
so, it's a bit confusing to see:
$this-paginate = array('contain' = 'User');
$this-set('posts', $this-paginate());
I think it would be clearer (from a name the variable what it is
type of coding style) to use something like:
$this-paginateOptions = array('contain' = 'User');
Every time I see $this-paginate when skimming through code, I
immediately see the method, completely forgetting it's also a
property. I hate that. ;)
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
What about create a true poll for it?
First create a poll for all suggestions, after create a poll to vote on that
suggestions and voilá =)
Henrique Machado
2009/5/18 Aivaras faifas1...@gmail.com
Hey,
actually the most annoying thing is that we cannot download separate parts
of Cake. It would be cool if advanced users could choose what do they need
for their project, just like mootools made in their download page. I
certainly understand that this is just *wishful thinking* because Cake's
core uses nearly everything :x
Anyway, upload component would be totally usable!
Also, switching from scriptaculous + prototype to jQuery would be awesome.
People would create and share plugins, which means that our lovely community
would become even bigger and ADmad would be even more mad (sorry AD :x)
Enjoy,
Faifas
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 06:00, Brendon Kozlowski
brendon...@hotmail.comwrote:
Thought of another one.
Paginate settings, and paginate call. Why do they have the same
name? When learning how Cake works, although it's proper OOP to do
so, it's a bit confusing to see:
$this-paginate = array('contain' = 'User');
$this-set('posts', $this-paginate());
I think it would be clearer (from a name the variable what it is
type of coding style) to use something like:
$this-paginateOptions = array('contain' = 'User');
Every time I see $this-paginate when skimming through code, I
immediately see the method, completely forgetting it's also a
property. I hate that. ;)
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Here's another interesting kick in the Matt Groening.
Inability to use FormHelper::error() to show our own errors on the
fly, i.e. $form-error('Arse.biscuits', 'A pair of women's knickers is
missing'); regardless of whether I'm using a model to create a form or
not.
Workaround:
$form-validationErrors['Arse']['biscuits'] = 'Dancing like a mad
eejit is not an allowed action';
echo $form-error('Arse.biscuits');
But why?? Form error should be looking for an validation error message
only if I didn't provide one as a param. Am I the only one who finds
that logical?
On May 18, 2:27 pm, Henrique Machado henri@gmail.com wrote:
What about create a true poll for it?
First create a poll for all suggestions, after create a poll to vote on that
suggestions and voilá =)
Henrique Machado
2009/5/18 Aivaras faifas1...@gmail.com
Hey,
actually the most annoying thing is that we cannot download separate parts
of Cake. It would be cool if advanced users could choose what do they need
for their project, just like mootools made in their download page. I
certainly understand that this is just *wishful thinking* because Cake's
core uses nearly everything :x
Anyway, upload component would be totally usable!
Also, switching from scriptaculous + prototype to jQuery would be awesome.
People would create and share plugins, which means that our lovely community
would become even bigger and ADmad would be even more mad (sorry AD :x)
Enjoy,
Faifas
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 06:00, Brendon Kozlowski
brendon...@hotmail.comwrote:
Thought of another one.
Paginate settings, and paginate call. Why do they have the same
name? When learning how Cake works, although it's proper OOP to do
so, it's a bit confusing to see:
$this-paginate = array('contain' = 'User');
$this-set('posts', $this-paginate());
I think it would be clearer (from a name the variable what it is
type of coding style) to use something like:
$this-paginateOptions = array('contain' = 'User');
Every time I see $this-paginate when skimming through code, I
immediately see the method, completely forgetting it's also a
property. I hate that. ;)
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
You are definitely right indeed.
Faifas
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 18:54, dr. Hannibal Lecter lecter...@gmail.comwrote:
Here's another interesting kick in the Matt Groening.
Inability to use FormHelper::error() to show our own errors on the
fly, i.e. $form-error('Arse.biscuits', 'A pair of women's knickers is
missing'); regardless of whether I'm using a model to create a form or
not.
Workaround:
$form-validationErrors['Arse']['biscuits'] = 'Dancing like a mad
eejit is not an allowed action';
echo $form-error('Arse.biscuits');
But why?? Form error should be looking for an validation error message
only if I didn't provide one as a param. Am I the only one who finds
that logical?
On May 18, 2:27 pm, Henrique Machado henri@gmail.com wrote:
What about create a true poll for it?
First create a poll for all suggestions, after create a poll to vote on
that
suggestions and voilá =)
Henrique Machado
2009/5/18 Aivaras faifas1...@gmail.com
Hey,
actually the most annoying thing is that we cannot download separate
parts
of Cake. It would be cool if advanced users could choose what do they
need
for their project, just like mootools made in their download page. I
certainly understand that this is just *wishful thinking* because
Cake's
core uses nearly everything :x
Anyway, upload component would be totally usable!
Also, switching from scriptaculous + prototype to jQuery would be
awesome.
People would create and share plugins, which means that our lovely
community
would become even bigger and ADmad would be even more mad (sorry AD :x)
Enjoy,
Faifas
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 06:00, Brendon Kozlowski
brendon...@hotmail.comwrote:
Thought of another one.
Paginate settings, and paginate call. Why do they have the same
name? When learning how Cake works, although it's proper OOP to do
so, it's a bit confusing to see:
$this-paginate = array('contain' = 'User');
$this-set('posts', $this-paginate());
I think it would be clearer (from a name the variable what it is
type of coding style) to use something like:
$this-paginateOptions = array('contain' = 'User');
Every time I see $this-paginate when skimming through code, I
immediately see the method, completely forgetting it's also a
property. I hate that. ;)
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
+1 with Matt Curry on this: Remove Model::recursive. All find calls would return just the model and if you wanted associated models you HAVE TO use Containable. - Built in functionality for custom find types. Right now there are some nice hacks that you can put into your AppModel to define your own custom find types but this should work out of the box. - The MEIO upload behavior (or something like it) could be added to the core. That behavior has greatly simplified managing uploads for me and is quite flexible. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- No virtual fields support On 8 Mag, 00:29, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Thought of another one.
Paginate settings, and paginate call. Why do they have the same
name? When learning how Cake works, although it's proper OOP to do
so, it's a bit confusing to see:
$this-paginate = array('contain' = 'User');
$this-set('posts', $this-paginate());
I think it would be clearer (from a name the variable what it is
type of coding style) to use something like:
$this-paginateOptions = array('contain' = 'User');
Every time I see $this-paginate when skimming through code, I
immediately see the method, completely forgetting it's also a
property. I hate that. ;)
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
To get all the translations for all the languages is a nightmare.
Solution exists.
$this-Article-Behaviors-attach('Translate', array('title' =
'Title'));
$article = $this-Article-find('first');
You'll get title for returned article in current locale, and also
result of 'hasMany Title' association without condition on locale
(therefore all existing titles of this article).
Another approach would be (using the same sql queries):
$this-Article-Behaviors-attach('Translate', array('title'));
$I18nModel = $this-Article-translateModel();
$article = $this-Article-find('first');
$titles = $I18nModel-find('all', array(
'conditions' = array(
'model' = 'Article',
'foreign_key' = $article['Article']['id']
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
+1 for a slug automagical field ! On 13 mai, 05:47, Reuben Helms reuben.he...@gmail.com wrote: Cake PHP is leaps and bounds ahead of what I used to use, but I'd like to see... * Improved support for Search Engine Friendly URLs. There are many types of SEF, and while there are already published versions of a few of them, I'd like to see some core support, so that a new revision of Cake doesnt break them. Types of SEF support I'd like to see are: * SEF Slug additions. This is the one that usually gets used. The a search engine friendly slug is appended to the URL. i.e. /controller/view/1/my-content-title * SEF Slug replacements. This is were the id gets replaced with a SEF slug. i.e. /controller/view/my-content-title maps to /controller/view/1 * Virtual Paths. This is where a controller/action/id gets mapped to a virtual path. Probably the trickiest to do, and perhaps well beyond the scope of supporting in Cake Core. The path would be mapped to a controller/action/id on the way in, and links would be recognised and converted on the way out. * Naming of helpers. Often, I need to overload the Form or HTML helper with custom actions, or additional actions. When I do this, I have a CustomFormHelper that extends the default FormHelper, but I then have to reference the newer helper via $customForm. Given that I'm extending FormHelper, and still have access to all of those functions provided to it, I'd like to specify that $form references CustomFormHelper. Downside of this is that the programmer becomes partially responsible for resolving for variable conflicts if they incorrectly name something, or have a helper in the app controller that conflicts with a helper name in the actual controller. On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I have to add one point to the lack of advanced documentation ... it
is getting better but it's not quite there yet ... API docs are
relatively good, but I think they lack some examples of for example
how to use parameters in function calls. I have not found it feasible
to go through core cake code to determine what a specific function
does with a given parameter ... maybe some people like that ;)
I also agree that cake does not have to solve all our issues, we are
better of writing those ourselves ... however, I have often searched
the Bakery for code I could reuse and have found out that many pieces
of code are either really old or there is no good documentation for
them available and therefore have not find anything highly usable from
them ... any ideas how this (code reusability) could be improved?
Maybe some kind of official Cake plugin and code snippet repository,
which requires authors to test components against new core versions
etc and update and develop plugin/behaviour/components code.
-J
On May 8, 4:08 pm, Smelly Eddie ollit...@gmail.com wrote:
I hate that it is a powerful framework that can make the tedious work
of developing sites a breeze. Its strict adherence to the tried and
true MVC model is a pain point as well. Why so logical?
I hate the active community involvement and powerful documentation and
API sites. I hate that people expect Cake to do every little thing.
It is a framework! Not a solve everything-all-in-one-cms-portal-file-
manager-blog-forum.
Use the framework to create an upload component, it takes all of 5
minutes!!
On May 8, 8:56 am, Dennis S. Hennen dennis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider Post hasMany Comment
Comment-find('all') returns {n}.Comment.*
Post-find('all') gives you Comment.{n}.*
If I want a helper to do processing on a list of comments, I have to
handle both potential formats, or massage the data.
Related to this is the $primary parameter to the afterFind callback.
Perhaps find results as objects instead of arrays?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Don't like: * PHP4 support (some years back I thought it as advantage!) * too resticted by conventions (at first I liked it too) * $helpers=array(..) and $components=array(..) in controllers. I really like the new Yii framework -- very powerful, fast and more important, flexible. Comparing to Cake. On 8 май, 07:29, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
@Sergei U why wouldn't helpers and components be in the controller. Where else would they go. On May 13, 1:12 am, Sergei yatse...@gmail.com wrote: Don't like: * PHP4 support (some years back I thought it as advantage!) * too resticted by conventions (at first I liked it too) * $helpers=array(..) and $components=array(..) in controllers. I really like the new Yii framework -- very powerful, fast and more important, flexible. Comparing to Cake. On 8 май, 07:29, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
@nurvzy - Returning objects from a mysql resource and slower then an associative array. I for one would hate to have to use objects within views. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Think Routing.admin and prefix routing implementation is not complete.
-prefix routing ignores reverse routing and pagination
-Routing.admin accepts only one string
maybe Routing.admin should be removed and replaced with prefix routing
completely.
On May 8, 3:08 pm, Smelly Eddie ollit...@gmail.com wrote:
I hate that it is a powerful framework that can make the tedious work
of developing sites a breeze. Its strict adherence to the tried and
true MVC model is a pain point as well. Why so logical?
I hate the active community involvement and powerful documentation and
API sites. I hate that people expect Cake to do every little thing.
It is a framework! Not a solve everything-all-in-one-cms-portal-file-
manager-blog-forum.
Use the framework to create an upload component, it takes all of 5
minutes!!
On May 8, 8:56 am, Dennis S. Hennen dennis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider Post hasMany Comment
Comment-find('all') returns {n}.Comment.*
Post-find('all') gives you Comment.{n}.*
If I want a helper to do processing on a list of comments, I have to
handle both potential formats, or massage the data.
Related to this is the $primary parameter to the afterFind callback.
Perhaps find results as objects instead of arrays?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
after so many years still too american!
no real multi-lingual support for usage in other languages than just
englisch
e.g. the mb_() function problem i already pointed out 12 months ago
with utf8 as default + mb_() functions there wouldn't be any trouble
On 13 Mai, 11:57, majna majna...@gmail.com wrote:
Think Routing.admin and prefix routing implementation is not complete.
-prefix routing ignores reverse routing and pagination
-Routing.admin accepts only one string
maybe Routing.admin should be removed and replaced with prefix routing
completely.
On May 8, 3:08 pm, Smelly Eddie ollit...@gmail.com wrote:
I hate that it is a powerful framework that can make the tedious work
of developing sites a breeze. Its strict adherence to the tried and
true MVC model is a pain point as well. Why so logical?
I hate the active community involvement and powerful documentation and
API sites. I hate that people expect Cake to do every little thing.
It is a framework! Not a solve everything-all-in-one-cms-portal-file-
manager-blog-forum.
Use the framework to create an upload component, it takes all of 5
minutes!!
On May 8, 8:56 am, Dennis S. Hennen dennis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider Post hasMany Comment
Comment-find('all') returns {n}.Comment.*
Post-find('all') gives you Comment.{n}.*
If I want a helper to do processing on a list of comments, I have to
handle both potential formats, or massage the data.
Related to this is the $primary parameter to the afterFind callback.
Perhaps find results as objects instead of arrays?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
1. Lets loose PHP4 asap
2. Hidden input fields should a default class applied something
like: .hidden-input perhaps - if you have forms with coloured
background then it can be a real nightmare making sure hidden fields
stay hidden (not everybody uses firefox) - I'm sure everybody has
scratched their heads over the little stripes that sometimes randomly
appear in forms !
3. It would be great if there was another layer of built in helpers so
we could overload the core helpers e.g. FormHelper extends
FormHelperBase extends AppHelper - what is now FormHelper becomes
FormHelperBase and FormHelper become an empty class that you can just
use to override methods in the built in helpers.
4. $model-find() bringing back all the associated data unless you
tell it not too - it should be the other way around - if you need
associations create them, use things like Containable and Rafael
Bandeira's Linkable behaviour.
There is a lot to be said for the built in admin in Django (although
on balance I think it maybe take it a bit far) - I think there are
ideas that could be borrowed - built in and configured ACL seems a
great idea and lots of built in widget / component type things are
handy.
On a general note though I'd just really like to say thanks to all the
core developers and everyone who contributes for building such a cool
framework.
Cheers
John
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wrote:
after so many years still too american!
no real multi-lingual support for usage in other languages than just
englisch
e.g. the mb_() function problem i already pointed out 12 months ago
with utf8 as default + mb_() functions there wouldn't be any trouble
On 13 Mai, 11:57, majna majna...@gmail.com wrote:
Think Routing.admin and prefix routing implementation is not complete.
-prefix routing ignores reverse routing and pagination
-Routing.admin accepts only one string
maybe Routing.admin should be removed and replaced with prefix routing
completely.
On May 8, 3:08 pm, Smelly Eddie ollit...@gmail.com wrote:
I hate that it is a powerful framework that can make the tedious work
of developing sites a breeze. Its strict adherence to the tried and
true MVC model is a pain point as well. Why so logical?
I hate the active community involvement and powerful documentation and
API sites. I hate that people expect Cake to do every little thing.
It is a framework! Not a solve everything-all-in-one-cms-portal-file-
manager-blog-forum.
Use the framework to create an upload component, it takes all of 5
minutes!!
On May 8, 8:56 am, Dennis S. Hennen dennis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider Post hasMany Comment
Comment-find('all') returns {n}.Comment.*
Post-find('all') gives you Comment.{n}.*
If I want a helper to do processing on a list of comments, I have to
handle both potential formats, or massage the data.
Related to this is the $primary parameter to the afterFind callback.
Perhaps find results as objects instead of arrays?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
@Miles J: That's why a toggle would be nice in the core to use associative or full fledged model objects. It would be nice to run model functions off the returned object in either the controller or view without having to set the model's id. Furthermore, if you needed to manipulate two objects of the same model in one controller action there's no easy way to execute their model function without passing the id in and handling that in the model. It's a little sloppy, and it doesn't have to be. /shrug But what I'd really want are: 1) full fledged cake console 2) migrations I'd be a real happy camper with those two =) Nick On May 13, 3:40 am, Miles J mileswjohn...@gmail.com wrote: @nurvzy - Returning objects from a mysql resource and slower then an associative array. I for one would hate to have to use objects within views. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
+1 for better ACL documentation, offcial docs and the tutorials out there have been very frustrating for me :( Juancho On Thu, May 7, 2009 at 5:29 PM, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
DateTime type on Mysql Table, it's better using timestamp with datetime format (-00-00 00:00:00) Seems it doesn't important, but we know that datetime bits is bigger than timestamps. That's way, all my created and modified table using timestamp. On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:29 -0700, Nate wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Thanks (again) nate for this opening to the community ! My 2 cents : - CakePHP (Several good things have already been said so I kept the most important to me) + No namespaces : CakePHP 2.0 must be PHP5.3+ + Better plugin management : dependencies management, versions, some API changes (HTMLHelper ...) to make it easier to use in plugins + Bake might permit to choose the application language + A CoffeeBehavior ... because it's a shame to not have a good coffee to go with a beautiful Cake :o) - Community + More tolerance towards ticket openers : I saw many people totally hate you guys because their tickets go won't fix because a test was missing ... everyone can't spend 2 hours on a ticket, it has to be understood otherwise no more feedbacks ! + Missing a Uber-Bakery containing official plugins, behaviors ... with their SCM. The place where one can find the right code when he needs it. Note: it does not means that a messy bakery is not useful, but in my opinion the community needs a place to find the best plugins and behaviors to contribute instead of reinventing the wheel. + Less tools but more homogeneity : tools are not clear enough for newcomers (or not so good english speakers). Between thechaw, bakery, cake, cakeforge, IRC, Google group, CakePlanet (blogs), Ohloh, twitter (etc.) it's hard to follow everything without missing important announcements. + (Last but not least ^^) Include local communities for communication purposes. As one of the french community leader, I cannot read all the google groups messages or announcement or other discussions because we have our own forum with people to help, discussions, tutorials to maintain and several other things. However, it would be great if this kind of discussion was broadcasted through local communities along with announcements. PROPOSAL = send an email to each community contact (e.g cakephp-translators mailing-list) when an important announcement is made so we can transmit it to our communities. ... and my multi-language Cake with built-in translations ! Thanks again for this interesting discussion, I hope a summary of all these points will be communicated elsewhere. I love CakePHP and its developers, thank you for everything which has been done ... Pierre (aka real34) On 12 mai, 22:18, yodi y...@yodi.web.id wrote: 1. PHP 4 Support *let's make CakePHP more fast with full PHP 5 2. Prototype and Scriptlous * it's better using Jquery 3. No CounterCache HABTM 4. Complex and heavy ACL * it's works to me but very hard for newbie 5. Still not effective form helper html imagine how long code using form helper for link of image like this : lt;a href=gt;imglt;/agt; On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:29 -0700, Nate wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
I wish a better Translate behavior! The recent one is really not great. To get all the translations for all the languages is a nightmare. The idea of http://www.palivoda.eu/2008/04/i18n-in-cakephp-12-database-content-translation-part-2/ is much better though there are some bugs in the proposed solution. Would be great to have it in Cake core. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Some add: - can't overload core helpers On 8 Mag, 00:29, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
@Smelly Eddie checked further postings! LOL
I love cakephp. In fact i have been building major projects in cake
php for last 2 years now. And mind you it has never let me down.
I had (or may have) complaints (and already covered in this post) but
every time i was able to find a quick solution for that. So its OK.
None+. :)
On May 8, 6:08 pm, Smelly Eddie ollit...@gmail.com wrote:
I hate that it is a powerful framework that can make the tedious work
of developing sites a breeze. Its strict adherence to the tried and
true MVC model is a pain point as well. Why so logical?
I hate the active community involvement and powerful documentation and
API sites. I hate that people expect Cake to do every little thing.
It is a framework! Not a solve everything-all-in-one-cms-portal-file-
manager-blog-forum.
Use the framework to create an upload component, it takes all of 5
minutes!!
On May 8, 8:56 am, Dennis S. Hennen dennis.hen...@gmail.com wrote:
Consider Post hasMany Comment
Comment-find('all') returns {n}.Comment.*
Post-find('all') gives you Comment.{n}.*
If I want a helper to do processing on a list of comments, I have to
handle both potential formats, or massage the data.
Related to this is the $primary parameter to the afterFind callback.
Perhaps find results as objects instead of arrays?
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Cake PHP is leaps and bounds ahead of what I used to use, but I'd like to see... * Improved support for Search Engine Friendly URLs. There are many types of SEF, and while there are already published versions of a few of them, I'd like to see some core support, so that a new revision of Cake doesnt break them. Types of SEF support I'd like to see are: * SEF Slug additions. This is the one that usually gets used. The a search engine friendly slug is appended to the URL. i.e. /controller/view/1/my-content-title * SEF Slug replacements. This is were the id gets replaced with a SEF slug. i.e. /controller/view/my-content-title maps to /controller/view/1 * Virtual Paths. This is where a controller/action/id gets mapped to a virtual path. Probably the trickiest to do, and perhaps well beyond the scope of supporting in Cake Core. The path would be mapped to a controller/action/id on the way in, and links would be recognised and converted on the way out. * Naming of helpers. Often, I need to overload the Form or HTML helper with custom actions, or additional actions. When I do this, I have a CustomFormHelper that extends the default FormHelper, but I then have to reference the newer helper via $customForm. Given that I'm extending FormHelper, and still have access to all of those functions provided to it, I'd like to specify that $form references CustomFormHelper. Downside of this is that the programmer becomes partially responsible for resolving for variable conflicts if they incorrectly name something, or have a helper in the app controller that conflicts with a helper name in the actual controller. On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 8:29 AM, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
PHP 4 support. Real use of plugins that are as easy as drag and drop. Better bakery, code is cut and pasted, why not support svn or git, preferably git for all code put on the bakery? A proper support forum, google groups is great, but the form seems to be structured in a way that many people find helpful. AJAX helper, I realize this is already in development by Mark, but thought i'd mention it anyways. JQUERY! Better template structure for baked views, i'd prefer just baking the admin, who really bakes the front end of there app anyways? (including nicely formatted views for easy jquery integration or even default integration). Regardless of the small things listed above, I wouldn't switch from cakephp in a million years. I love it, and will continue using it. Thanks for all your time and effort. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
There are a lot of things to like in cakephp, but if I had to say what aggravates me the most it's the seemingly wasteful and inefficient SQL calls that cake makes. The first time I turned on debug = 2 I was astounded at the close to 100 sql calls on a basic page that 1 or 2 SQL statements should have covered. It seems like when working with find queries with tables two or more levels removed from the originating model, all hell breaks loose as cake is unable to figure out JOINS more than one level deep. This also makes it impossible to set conditions on a table field that's two or more levels removed from the original. So after first learning $uses and recursive, then jettisoning that for containable behaviour, it turns out I have to write custom SQL queries after all as soon as my app gets a little more complicated than the beginner examples. I think there could be some major improvements there, and I understand they are on the way for v2; but I'm surprised this doesn't come up more often. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
1. PHP 4 Support *let's make CakePHP more fast with full PHP 5 2. Prototype and Scriptlous * it's better using Jquery 3. No CounterCache HABTM 4. Complex and heavy ACL * it's works to me but very hard for newbie 5. Still not effective form helper html imagine how long code using form helper for link of image like this : lt;a href=gt;imglt;/agt; On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 15:29 -0700, Nate wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Don't quite understood... You can always unbind relationships and select the fields you want with find On May 8, 6:00 am, gaurav.v.sharma gaurav.v.sha...@gmail.com wrote: if one could modify the amount of data that cake fetches during any operation. For example the action index fetches more result than needed thereby making the application a bit slower... and improved tutorials on advanced techniques used in cake like acl.. On May 8, 3:29 am, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
PHP4 Support is a definite peeve. The Ajax helper being tied into prototype/scriptalicious - I've a preference for jQuery. Particularly like the extensive use of hashtables in cake; really, really like that. On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:55 AM, park park@gmail.com wrote: No HABTM counterCache Ignoring callbacks on associative queries On May 8, 6:29 am, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- PHP 4 support+++ - No namespaces+++ - No built in Uploader component++ - No native Image component --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Lack of good userguides and tutorials. The ones that exist cover a few basics but thats about it, I struggle with more advanced stuff. Lack of a good, proper support forum. Apart from that Iove it and am persevering as I found it a lot easier to learn than Zend. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Ignoring callbacks on associative queries++
Inconsistency on model joining in queries
Explanation:
I might be wrong on this, please correct me if I am, but it seems like
the following:
A hasMany B hasMany C
C belongsTo B belongsTo A
If I want to get Bs where C.notAPrimaryKeyField = 'somevalue', things
work well (just contain it and we're fine). But if I want to get all
the Bs where A.notAPrimaryKeyField = 'somevalue', things break and
people die.
This logic may seem backwards (if it's a belongsTo relation, there
should be only one parent, right?), but it's not always like that.
Some databases I've worked with had to be forced into the following: a
field which defines the type of relation, let's call it area_scope.
Then I'd have the area_id which points to different models, depending
on the value of area_scope. I think this is somewhat common in real
life databases.
That being said, the same issue exists with the relation definitions
in models with the conditions key. I can do this (in the Document
model):
var $hasMany = array('Item' = array('conditions' = array
('Document.author' = 'Jack Hackett')));
but I can't do this
var $hasMany = array('Item' = array('conditions' = array
('Item.content' = 'feck arse drink girls')));
So making conditional joins is sometimes very tricky..
* Lack of bootstrap file for plugins would be another one (possibly
even core.php and routes).
* MediaView still depends on the array of predefined MIME types (WTF?)
* Defining custom find types is is unintuitive. It should be as simple
as defining a function called _findCabbage() in your model to be able
to use find('cabbage').
* I know this probably won't happen but...: composite keys anyone?
Sometimes I have to deal with Nazi DBAs: Artificial keys raus!. Ich
verstehe, main Führer...
I have also seen people complain about poor performance, and while I
didn't experience it myself, it might be worth investigating if the
complaints continue.
That's all for now.. :)
On May 8, 9:18 am, Richard rclay...@gmail.com wrote:
PHP4 Support is a definite peeve.
The Ajax helper being tied into prototype/scriptalicious - I've a preference
for jQuery.
Particularly like the extensive use of hashtables in cake; really, really
like that.
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 5:55 AM, park park@gmail.com wrote:
No HABTM counterCache
Ignoring callbacks on associative queries
On May 8, 6:29 am, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the
least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started
development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most
frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we
can't fix right away.
I'll get us started: PHP 4 support.
Who's next? TIA for the input.
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- Hard / impossible to organize large applications into smaller / manageable pieces. When you have 50 controllers or more in one folder you'll hate cakephp because it's difficult to locate things. (same problem with models and views) . I would like to organize the Model/Views/Controller files into feature-related, sub-application folders (e.g. newsletter , photoeditor, coupon etc.) If 'plugins' is the answer then I hate the term 'plugin'. My 'newsletter' feature is part of my application, not a plugin. - Documentation / User guide should be the focus. People who write the core should care more the doc. I would prefer having a better doc and more examples to having a newer version of cake. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- Hard / impossible to organize a large application into smaller / manageable pieces. When you have 50 controllers or more in one folder you'll hate cakephp because it's difficult to locate things. (same problem with models and views) . I would like to organize the Model/Views/Controller files into feature-related, sub-application folders (e.g. newsletter , photoeditor, coupon etc.) If 'plugins' is the answer then I hate the term 'plugin'. My 'newsletter' feature is part of my application, not a plugin. - Documentation / User guide should be the focus. People who write the core should care more about the doc. I would prefer having a better doc and more examples to having a newer version of cake. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
@zonium: I believe you can accomplish the separation with additional class paths: http://book.cakephp.org/view/35/Advanced-Installation#Additional-Class-Paths-36 On May 8, 11:05 am, zonium zon...@gmail.com wrote: - Hard / impossible to organize a large application into smaller / manageable pieces. When you have 50 controllers or more in one folder you'll hate cakephp because it's difficult to locate things. (same problem with models and views) . I would like to organize the Model/Views/Controller files into feature-related, sub-application folders (e.g. newsletter , photoeditor, coupon etc.) If 'plugins' is the answer then I hate the term 'plugin'. My 'newsletter' feature is part of my application, not a plugin. - Documentation / User guide should be the focus. People who write the core should care more about the doc. I would prefer having a better doc and more examples to having a newer version of cake. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
@zonium: I believe this plugin for PDT would save your life: http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencakefile/ ;) --- kiang On 5月8日, 下午5時10分, dr. Hannibal Lecter lecter...@gmail.com wrote: @zonium: I believe you can accomplish the separation with additional class paths: http://book.cakephp.org/view/35/Advanced-Installation#Additional-Clas... On May 8, 11:05 am, zonium zon...@gmail.com wrote: - Hard / impossible to organize a large application into smaller / manageable pieces. When you have 50 controllers or more in one folder you'll hate cakephp because it's difficult to locate things. (same problem with models and views) . I would like to organize the Model/Views/Controller files into feature-related, sub-application folders (e.g. newsletter , photoeditor, coupon etc.) If 'plugins' is the answer then I hate the term 'plugin'. My 'newsletter' feature is part of my application, not a plugin. - Documentation / User guide should be the focus. People who write the core should care more about the doc. I would prefer having a better doc and more examples to having a newer version of cake. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Habtm implementation:
Model::_deleteLinks($id)
Cascades model deletes through HABTM join keys.
I just found out reason why some records gets randomly deleted from
habtm:
cake ignores 'condition' filed in habtm assocciation definition.
example:
var $hasAndBelongsToMany = array(
'Tag' =
array('className'= 'Tag',
'joinTable'= 'content_tags',
'foreignKey'= 'content_id',
'associationForeignKey'= 'tag_id',
'conditions'= content_type='News',
..
Now, cake will use 'condition' to find results,
but ignore when deleting!
So if you have (in this example) tags for Video,Product,Photo..,
by deleting News with id=1,
cake will delete tags for Product id=1, Video id=1.. and so on.
Delete is often followed by redirect to referrer and hard to debug
sql.
This miss-behavior is in cake 1.x, and, as I can see, in 1.2.x.
You can define 'deleteQuery'= '' in habtm assocciation but why?
@nate should I open ticket for this?
On May 8, 12:29 am, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the
least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started
development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most
frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we
can't fix right away.
I'll get us started: PHP 4 support.
Who's next? TIA for the input.
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
Vote ++ for more complete documentation
On Fri, May 8, 2009 at 11:46 AM, majna majna...@gmail.com wrote:
Habtm implementation:
Model::_deleteLinks($id)
Cascades model deletes through HABTM join keys.
I just found out reason why some records gets randomly deleted from
habtm:
cake ignores 'condition' filed in habtm assocciation definition.
example:
var $hasAndBelongsToMany = array(
'Tag' =
array('className' = 'Tag',
'joinTable' = 'content_tags',
'foreignKey' = 'content_id',
'associationForeignKey'= 'tag_id',
'conditions' = content_type='News',
..
Now, cake will use 'condition' to find results,
but ignore when deleting!
So if you have (in this example) tags for Video,Product,Photo..,
by deleting News with id=1,
cake will delete tags for Product id=1, Video id=1.. and so on.
Delete is often followed by redirect to referrer and hard to debug
sql.
This miss-behavior is in cake 1.x, and, as I can see, in 1.2.x.
You can define 'deleteQuery'= '' in habtm assocciation but why?
@nate should I open ticket for this?
On May 8, 12:29 am, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote:
Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the
least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started
development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most
frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we
can't fix right away.
I'll get us started: PHP 4 support.
Who's next? TIA for the input.
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Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
if one could modify the amount of data that cake fetches during any operation. For example the action index fetches more result than needed thereby making the application a bit slower... and improved tutorials on advanced techniques used in cake like acl.. On May 8, 3:29 am, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
Re: Poll: what do you hate about CakePHP?
- Lack of support forum On 8 Mag, 00:29, Nate nate.ab...@gmail.com wrote: Well, maybe hate's a strong word. Let's say, what do you like the least? Kind of an odd question, I know, but since we've kick-started development of a new version, I'd like to know what the most frustrating things with the framework are, even if they're things we can't fix right away. I'll get us started: PHP 4 support. Who's next? TIA for the input. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups CakePHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cake-php+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cake-php?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
