RE: Pausing execution

[Jared Clinton]

I would suggest that the cflock solution is much better.  It does not
actually do any processing while waiting, its probably exactly how 
cf_asleep
works.

In the past I have implemented N-try then lockout systems. Three 
attempts
then your account is locked, contact admin to unlock. You may also like 
to
do this.


I must say, i liked the cflock solution very much...

Jared Clinton
NEC Australia



-Original Message-
From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 4:09 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Pausing execution


Thanks for these suggestions - very clever. I don't suppose there's any
performance difference between using this cfscript or the exclusive
deadlock method posted as well... Both would only affect the current
request yeah (if the cflock name was unique for each request that is)?

And I need to delay after *each* failed attempt because different
username and password combinations could be attempted. I guess it's
unlikely, but if you make any type of automated attack too inconvenient
the script kiddies will move onto the next target.

Kay.


"Jared Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kay,
> 
> If you search this lists archive this article shows how to delay
> execution:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/msg69317.html
> 
> 
> -snip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> x = 1;
> // re-set the initial var to now() until it catches up
> with the number of seconds to wait
> while (DateCompare(started, finished, "s") LTE 0) {
> started = now();
> //writeoutput(x & "... still waiting ");
> //x = IncrementValue(x);
> }
> 
> 
> -end snip
> 
> Although, wouldn't it be better to return the response immediately 
and
> in
> some permanent storage remove/disable the login for X amount of 
> seconds?
> 
> Jared Clinton
> NEC Australia
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 1:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Pausing execution
> 
> 
> I have a password system that requires a two second delay after a
> failed
> password attempt, to foil brute force automated cracking attempts.
> There's two tags in the developers exchange - CFX_Sleep and 
CF_aSleep.

> 
> CFX_Sleep is free, but I don't really want to go to the bother of 
> getting a CFX installed on shared hosting.
> 
> CF_aSleep is $5, and claims: "Will delay execution of the current 
> template for specified number of seconds by TRUE BLOCKING of the 
> current reguest, as opposed to looping, or doing some useless job. 
Tag

> WILL CONSUME MINIMAL SYSTEM RESOURCES while sleeping."
> 
> Has anyone used this tag? I don't mind forking out the $5 (actually 
> $10 in Australian pesos) but does it really work? Does anyone have a 
> better way of delaying the user for a certain amount of time?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kay.
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>   
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Re: Pausing execution

[Kay Smoljak]

Thanks for these suggestions - very clever. I don't suppose there's any
performance difference between using this cfscript or the exclusive
deadlock method posted as well... Both would only affect the current
request yeah (if the cflock name was unique for each request that is)?

And I need to delay after *each* failed attempt because different
username and password combinations could be attempted. I guess it's
unlikely, but if you make any type of automated attack too inconvenient
the script kiddies will move onto the next target.

Kay.


"Jared Clinton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Kay,
> 
> If you search this lists archive this article shows how to delay
> execution:
> 
> http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/msg69317.html
> 
> 
> -snip
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> x = 1;
> // re-set the initial var to now() until it catches up
> with the number of seconds to wait
> while (DateCompare(started, finished, "s") LTE 0) {
> started = now();
> //writeoutput(x & "... still waiting ");
> //x = IncrementValue(x);
> }
> 
> 
> -end snip
> 
> Although, wouldn't it be better to return the response immediately and
> in
> some permanent storage remove/disable the login for X amount of 
> seconds?
> 
> Jared Clinton
> NEC Australia
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 1:47 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Pausing execution
> 
> 
> I have a password system that requires a two second delay after a
> failed
> password attempt, to foil brute force automated cracking attempts.
> There's two tags in the developers exchange - CFX_Sleep and CF_aSleep.

> 
> CFX_Sleep is free, but I don't really want to go to the bother of 
> getting a CFX installed on shared hosting.
> 
> CF_aSleep is $5, and claims: "Will delay execution of the current 
> template for specified number of seconds by TRUE BLOCKING of the 
> current reguest, as opposed to looping, or doing some useless job. Tag

> WILL CONSUME MINIMAL SYSTEM RESOURCES while sleeping."
> 
> Has anyone used this tag? I don't mind forking out the $5 (actually 
> $10 in Australian pesos) but does it really work? Does anyone have a 
> better way of delaying the user for a certain amount of time?
> 
> Thanks,
> Kay.
> __
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>   
> Level 9/105 St George's Terrace - Perth - Western Australia
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RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[John Wilker]

Yeah, very true. Nothing really "Makes" a web developer. We are all web
developers with/without certifications, and any other activities.. 

Anything we do above and beyond our roles as developers is extra. For
what ever it may be worth in interviews and what not..

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-Original Message-
From: Brian Simmons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.


My opinion of (any) certification:

1) A Certification does not a good developer make.
2) But, with that said it does show a commitment to your craft and could
separate you from other job candidates.

If you're going to take the CF 5.0 certification exam, be sure to check
out CF_Buster at http://www.centrasoft.com.  Read what people are saying
about CF_Buster at: http://www.centrasoft.com/cfbtestimonials.cfm

Thanks,
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Re:Pausing execution

[James Sleeman]

"Kay Smoljak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 2/12/2002 4:46:30 PM:

>Has anyone used this tag? I don't mind forking out the $5 (actually $10
>in Australian pesos) but does it really work? Does anyone have a better
>way of delaying the user for a certain amount of time?

I would use a deadlock situation to my advantage...






the first lock will obtain fine, the internal lock won't be able to because DummyLock 
is already locked, after 2 seconds it will timeout without an 
error and  continue on it's merry way.



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RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[Brian Simmons]

My opinion of (any) certification:

1) A Certification does not a good developer make.
2) But, with that said it does show a commitment to your craft and could
separate you from other job candidates.

If you're going to take the CF 5.0 certification exam, be sure to check out
CF_Buster at http://www.centrasoft.com.  Read what people are saying about
CF_Buster at: http://www.centrasoft.com/cfbtestimonials.cfm

Thanks,
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Re: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[Jeffry Houser]

At 10:57 PM 02/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Thanks guys for all of your feedback. Since there's a glut of programmers out
>there and I'm simply looking for ways to "seperate" myself from the rest of
>the programmers who may be mis-representing them.
>
>I thought in this case, macromedia certification may be able to seperate
>those 2 groups. My web site contains all the online portfolio, resume,
>snapshots and everything employers may need to know about me.

  You may also want to seek certification in other areas.  ( SQL Server / 
JavaScript / Web Technology )
  I know Brainbench has a lot of certifications out there and there are 
other third party companies that perform independent third party 
certifications.  ( Note: I would definitely go after Macromedia 
Certification first, but the others certainly won't hurt you)



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RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[John Wilker]

Then I'd do it. 

I think it will do what you are hoping, it's all in how you present it
IMHO. My personal opinion and the way I present it is, "I took the time
to quantify and prove what I know, did the other guys and gals applying
for this job?" If the answer is yes as it is sometimes, move on to the
other stuff.

Plus it's not overly expensive so it's a small investment.

J. 
 
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 7:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Certification - feedback needed. 


Thanks guys for all of your feedback. Since there's a glut of
programmers out 
there and I'm simply looking for ways to "seperate" myself from the rest
of 
the programmers who may be mis-representing them.

I thought in this case, macromedia certification may be able to seperate

those 2 groups. My web site contains all the online portfolio, resume, 
snapshots and everything employers may need to know about me.

Again, it's just to seperate myself from other candidates. I agree with
some 
of you that this is just one item and I'm looking for this certification
to 
"show" the employers what I am capable unlike other developers who can
talk 
their way into any job but can't do diddly poo with coding.

Thanks again-



> I completely agree. If you plan (I'm not saying you do) to rest just 
> on the paper it's not worth much. After all it's just a test, I've 
> seen people pass the MCSE exams without actually having any 
> experience, they took classes and read books. That's not to say they 
> are better qualified than an engineer with a few years of experience..
> 
> I took the test because Keen said, if it boils down to two candidates 
> the own who took the time to get something in writing that he knows 
> his stuff maybe have better chances. I know that along with some other

> extracurricular activities, my cert helped land my current gig.
> 
> The way I see it, it's what you make of it. I intend (some day to get 
> MM's web developer cert) just because IMHO it sets me apart as being 
> someone who put my money where my mouth is. Before any flames come my 
> way I'm not dissing anyone who is and ain't gonna get certified, but I

> know plenty of developers who aren't worth half what they make and 
> could never pass the test, and I want to make sure when it comes down 
> to me and them, I stand out.
> 
> J.


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Re: running IIS with a different port (not 80)

[Joseph Thompson]

open IIS, right click/properties.  You should see the "name" and the port
(say..81).  change it there.

Now.. if you want to view the site you must type:

http://mysite.com:81


> Hey All,
>
> Well my inital Google searches aren't panning out to well so I though I'd
toss this one out to the
> list ;-)
>
> I'm wanting to change the port IIS uses from 80 to anythig else.  Any
thoughts?
>
> I know someone out there knows the answer...but you East coasters are
probably all tucked in nice
> and cozy by now ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[NathanielHorwitz]

Thanks guys for all of your feedback. Since there's a glut of programmers out 
there and I'm simply looking for ways to "seperate" myself from the rest of 
the programmers who may be mis-representing them.

I thought in this case, macromedia certification may be able to seperate 
those 2 groups. My web site contains all the online portfolio, resume, 
snapshots and everything employers may need to know about me.

Again, it's just to seperate myself from other candidates. I agree with some 
of you that this is just one item and I'm looking for this certification to 
"show" the employers what I am capable unlike other developers who can talk 
their way into any job but can't do diddly poo with coding.

Thanks again-



> I completely agree. If you plan (I'm not saying you do) to rest just on
> the paper it's not worth much. After all it's just a test, I've seen
> people pass the MCSE exams without actually having any experience, they
> took classes and read books. That's not to say they are better qualified
> than an engineer with a few years of experience.. 
> 
> I took the test because Keen said, if it boils down to two candidates
> the own who took the time to get something in writing that he knows his
> stuff maybe have better chances. I know that along with some other
> extracurricular activities, my cert helped land my current gig.
> 
> The way I see it, it's what you make of it. I intend (some day to get
> MM's web developer cert) just because IMHO it sets me apart as being
> someone who put my money where my mouth is. Before any flames come my
> way I'm not dissing anyone who is and ain't gonna get certified, but I
> know plenty of developers who aren't worth half what they make and could
> never pass the test, and I want to make sure when it comes down to me
> and them, I stand out.
> 
> J.


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Re: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[Jeffry Houser]

  ( The one thing I didn't say which may or may not have been implied is 
that if "Mike's Guitars Magazine" company fails, it is probably not due to
 
misunderstanding web technology )

At 09:12 PM 02/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>   This is an interesting conclusion, but you probably do not have a big
>enough sample to say for sure.  I think there are a lot of plusses to
>certification, especially if you are consulting.  It makes you an expert to
>people who don't know any better.
>
>   And, just about every company uses some form of technology, but not
 every
>company is a technology company.
>   For example, let's say the editors of Mike's Guitars Magazine (Not a
 real
>magazine) want to create a web-site and update it on a weekly basis (Let's
>assume they publish issues on a weekly basis).  So, they turn around and
>hire a full-time web developer.  If they understood web technology, they
>probably wouldn't make good editors of a guitar magazine...  So, they hire
>someone who does.  It makes logical business sense.
>
>
>At 04:53 PM 02/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> >Never been certified in anything...that's not to say I'm not certifiable
> >though :)
> >
> >Before I was at the position I am in now, I had two offers I was looking
 at.
> >One paid higher, but was looking for the piece of paper. The other paid
> >lower, but all they wanted was to talk to me and see code. Two and a half
> >years later I'm still at what was the lower paying job, and the other
> >company  is out of business...
> >
> >Take from that what you will. What I take from it is that the only
 companies
> >that require certification are the ones who do not understand the
 technology
> >and can not evaluate a potential employee based on actual skills. Hence
 they
> >fail because they do not understand the industry that they are in.
>
>
>
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RE: Pausing execution

[Jared Clinton]

Kay,

If you search this lists archive this article shows how to delay 
execution:

http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/msg69317.html


-snip






x = 1;
// re-set the initial var to now() until it catches up
with the number of seconds to wait
while (DateCompare(started, finished, "s") LTE 0) {
started = now();
//writeoutput(x & "... still waiting ");
//x = IncrementValue(x);
}


-end snip

Although, wouldn't it be better to return the response immediately and 
in
some permanent storage remove/disable the login for X amount of 
seconds?

Jared Clinton
NEC Australia

-Original Message-
From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 1:47 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Pausing execution


I have a password system that requires a two second delay after a 
failed
password attempt, to foil brute force automated cracking attempts.
There's two tags in the developers exchange - CFX_Sleep and CF_aSleep. 

CFX_Sleep is free, but I don't really want to go to the bother of
getting a CFX installed on shared hosting. 

CF_aSleep is $5, and claims: "Will delay execution of the current
template for specified number of seconds by TRUE BLOCKING of the 
current
reguest, as opposed to looping, or doing some useless job. Tag WILL
CONSUME MINIMAL SYSTEM RESOURCES while sleeping." 

Has anyone used this tag? I don't mind forking out the $5 (actually $10
in Australian pesos) but does it really work? Does anyone have a better
way of delaying the user for a certain amount of time?

Thanks,
Kay.
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Pausing execution

[Kay Smoljak]

I have a password system that requires a two second delay after a failed
password attempt, to foil brute force automated cracking attempts.
There's two tags in the developers exchange - CFX_Sleep and CF_aSleep. 

CFX_Sleep is free, but I don't really want to go to the bother of
getting a CFX installed on shared hosting. 

CF_aSleep is $5, and claims: "Will delay execution of the current
template for specified number of seconds by TRUE BLOCKING of the current
reguest, as opposed to looping, or doing some useless job. Tag WILL
CONSUME MINIMAL SYSTEM RESOURCES while sleeping." 

Has anyone used this tag? I don't mind forking out the $5 (actually $10
in Australian pesos) but does it really work? Does anyone have a better
way of delaying the user for a certain amount of time?

Thanks,
Kay.
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RE: High Thread Count Question

[Dave Watts]

> Just curious...what's the highest someone has set their 
> 'simultaneous requests' setting in the CF Admin to?
> 
> I wonder if setting it to 100 (on a big dual PIII box) 
> would screw things up?

Yes, it probably would. I've seen appropriate values (determined by
load-testing) between 4 and 12 threads per processor, but 100 is way out of
the ballpark.

Unfortunately, the only way to accurately determine the appropriate value,
as hinted at above, is by load-testing the server with different values.
Macromedia used to offer a course covering how to do this (and Fig Leaf
still offers the course occasionally), but basically, it boils down to
load-testing a specific application or set of applications, and changing the
value in the CF Administrator, and retesting ...

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RE: CF and Machine Names on Domain

[Dave Watts]

> Accessed their domain and got a list of machine names on 
> their network?

You should be able to do this with a combination of CFEXECUTE and "net
view", I think.

> Also, I want to know if it is possible to not only access the 
> list of names, but to add machine names, and remove all using 
> CF. I knwo this can be done in PERL using the win32 API. Anyone 
> have some thoughts??

All of this sort of stuff can typically be done through the command line, so
you should be able do it with CFEXECUTE. Type "net help" at a command
prompt, and it'll list a bunch of options.

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RE: running IIS with a different port (not 80)

[Dave Watts]

> I'm wanting to change the port IIS uses from 80 to anythig 
> else.

You can do this for each individual virtual web server. Just go into the IIS
MMC, right-click on a virtual server, select "Properties", select "Web
Site", and in the "TCP Port" field, put whatever port you like.

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Re: running IIS with a different port (not 80)

[Jim McAtee]

In the IIS management console, under the properties for each IIS virtual
site, there's an IP address (at least one) that is to be bound to the site.
Click the 'Advanced' button and you'll see the option to bind to a different
port, as well as the option to set up additional
IPAddress/TCPPort/HostHeader bindings for the site.

Jim


- Original Message -
From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: OT: running IIS with a different port (not 80)


> Hey All,
>
> Well my inital Google searches aren't panning out to well so I though I'd
toss this one out to the
> list ;-)
>
> I'm wanting to change the port IIS uses from 80 to anythig else.  Any
thoughts?
>
> I know someone out there knows the answer...but you East coasters are
probably all tucked in nice
> and cozy by now ;-)
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Bryan Stevenson
> VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
> Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
> p. 250.920.8830
> e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -
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> www.macromedia.com
> -
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> Founder & Director
> www.cfug-vancouverisland.com
>
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RE: Future of the internet

[Shawn Grover]

I hear all this talk of limited Broadband.  Maybe I'm just lucky living 
in a
metropolitan area in Canada - DSL and Cable are the same price and is 
fairly
affordable (about $40 Cdn / month).  It'd be nice if it were cheaper, 
but
this isn't too bad.  Then again, I have heard some grumblings that 
Canada is
a bit further ahead in adoption of newer technology (could be wrong 
though).

As for the Future of the internet... makes me think - with all these 
Nodes
on the I-Net, sooner or later someone is going to try to put them 
together
in a neural net or something similar.  So THE killer app in this case 
would
be the I-Net itself...

On a different note, I don't see how this discussion has much to do 
with
Cold Fusion anymore 

Shawn Grover

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 7:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Future of the internet


I agree with this on both counts, even here in Australia the feeling is
very mutual. The broadband that is reliable is limited to coverage
(Cable), and the DSL services are far to expensive and will kill the
market and at the moment is also very unreliable with the uptime.

I myself have had the time to think about where the future is headed,
and there many opportunities that will open up when this gets sorted,
But there has to be 2 things present.

1) The medium has enough coverage to give your product the coverage it
needs, and to deliver the way this is to look.

2) Security, this will be a big undertaking and people would be 
hesitant
to hook to something that offers very little protection to any stored
information.

But I see so much old technology that could be changed for the better,
when broadband is here.



-Original Message-
From: Pete Ruckelshaus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 12 February 2002 12:43 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Future of the internet

The "killer app" for now is broadband, and that's something that the US
is
really falling behind on. Once broadband is prevalent, it will allow 
the
web
to BE both the medium (for information and entertainment) and the
mechanism
(for delivery of content and information, as well as a voice, video, 
and
data communications medium).  If the government/telco's/etc. don't get
their
collective acts together, we're going to be an InfoTech 3rd world
nation.  I
mean, hell, I live in a neighborhood of $300k houses in suburban Phila
and
apparently nobody wants to provide brandband to us.  After that, I 
think
the
next "killer app" is mainstream home/personal server/firewall (or, more
accuratly, appliance) for storing information, video, music, etc., but
for
that to succeed, broadband needs to be prevalent.

Sorry, Doug, but I think it goes way beyond the integration of Flash 
and
CF,
though personal bandwidth is important for that to succeed as well.

Pete


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OT: running IIS with a different port (not 80)

[Bryan Stevenson]

Hey All,

Well my inital Google searches aren't panning out to well so I though I'd toss this 
one out to the
list ;-)

I'm wanting to change the port IIS uses from 80 to anythig else.  Any thoughts?

I know someone out there knows the answer...but you East coasters are probably all 
tucked in nice
and cozy by now ;-)

Thanks in advance.

Bryan Stevenson
VP & Director of E-Commerce Development
Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
e. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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www.macromedia.com
-
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Founder & Director
www.cfug-vancouverisland.com

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RE: sql server / cf security

[Dave Watts]

> I'm getting around to moving to SQL server (finally) and am curious
> about setting it up securely, in particular in relation to Cold
> Fusion.  I know I should setup a 'Cold Fusion' user, run the CF
> service as that and allow that CF user access to SQL Server. But
> what rights does that CF user need (or not need?).

Well, in my opinion, you're better off simply creating a "native" SQL login,
then using that username and password for an individual application by
placing it in the datasource. I'd recommend creating one for each database,
and limiting the rights of each to the specific objects within the database
that should be accessible from your application.

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OT: Years of experience.

[John Wilker]

Hi all. This is cross posted (sorry Listserv, friends)
 
I am working on a book and wanted to get a feel for the community. If
it's not too much trouble I'd greatly appreciate any one who can take a
minute to email me off list with their years of experience, rough
numbers are ok. No names will be used or anything like that, I'm just
trying to gauge some numbers for research.
 
Many thanks.
 
J.
 
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Web Applications Consultant
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG.
Writer / Technical Writer
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sql server / cf security

[Jim Priest]

I'm getting around to moving to SQL server (finally) and am curious
about setting it up securely, in particular in relation to Cold
Fusion.  I know I should setup a 'Cold Fusion' user, run the CF
service as that and allow that CF user access to SQL Server. But
what rights does that CF user need (or not need?).

(This is all on Win2000 btw)

Anyone have any recommendations?

Thanks much!
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RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[John Wilker]

Totally true. It's the cert and the portfolio and the... And the... And
a few... And of course, the...

There's no one thing. For example I have almost no portfolio except for
screen captures of sites long since changed or gone altogether. I do
intranet apps so it's hard to point people to the site, so the cert
helps in that regard.

J. 
 
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-Original Message-
From: Steve Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 6:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Certification - feedback needed. 


That's usually where a portfolio comes in to play.  If you (with no CF
cert) show someone your work, and it's excellent work, then someone with
a CF cert shows them some work, and it's shabby, they're more then
likely going to go with the one with better skills and experience.

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-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Certification - feedback needed. 


  This is an interesting conclusion, but you probably do not have a big 
enough sample to say for sure.  I think there are a lot of plusses to 
certification, especially if you are consulting.  It makes you an expert
to 
people who don't know any better.

  And, just about every company uses some form of technology, but not
every 
company is a technology company.
  For example, let's say the editors of Mike's Guitars Magazine (Not a
real 
magazine) want to create a web-site and update it on a weekly basis
(Let's 
assume they publish issues on a weekly basis).  So, they turn around and

hire a full-time web developer.  If they understood web technology, they

probably wouldn't make good editors of a guitar magazine...  So, they
hire 
someone who does.  It makes logical business sense.


At 04:53 PM 02/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Never been certified in anything...that's not to say I'm not
certifiable
>though :)
>
>Before I was at the position I am in now, I had two offers I was
looking at.
>One paid higher, but was looking for the piece of paper. The other paid

>lower, but all they wanted was to talk to me and see code. Two and a
half
>years later I'm still at what was the lower paying job, and the other 
>company  is out of business...
>
>Take from that what you will. What I take from it is that the only
companies
>that require certification are the ones who do not understand the
technology
>and can not evaluate a potential employee based on actual skills. Hence
they
>fail because they do not understand the industry that they are in.




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RE: Anybody heard of this?

[Justin Greene]

You can write to the registry on IE with a signed applet so make sure 
that
you are set to warn you before running such things.  This is probably 
what
happened.

Justin

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:26 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Anybody heard of this?
> 
> 
> -- Spamex - Forums Now Available http://forums.spamex.com/forums/
> -- Replies will be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -- Additional Info: http://www.spamex.com/i/?v=52
> 
> Thanks John.
> 
> When these scum bags hit, it makes me wish I could send about 
> 10K volts
> through the net to their servers!  LOL  POW!  Blast 'em into a 
billion
> pieces!8-)
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "John Cummings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:51 AM
> Subject: RE: Anybody heard of this?
> 
> 
> Dave,
> 
> Found this on Google, though I didn't have the key (probably 
> a different
> version of IE):
> 
> [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Policies\Microsoft\Internet 
> Explorer\Control
> Panel]
> 
> Double-click the "HomePage" value and change it to "00 00 00 00"
> 
> 
> Also, you can manually change the start page back via the reg by 
going
> to HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main
> and changing the value of "Start Page" to whatever you want it to be.
> 
> HTH,
> JC
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Hannum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 8:42 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: OT: Anybody heard of this?
> 
> I has some spam in my email this morning.  It immediately 
> popped me to a
> porn site.  What it did though, was reset my start page through their
> server, and I now, cannot reset my start page.  It's greyed out.  The
> URL of
> this scum company is:
> http://www.duolaimi.net (don't click on the URL)
> My start page URL now looks like
> http://www.duolaimi.net/d.asp?http://myURLhere.com
> 
> If I go into Internet Options, it does not allow me to change 
> the Start
> Page
> settings.  What's the fix for this?  Anybody know?
> 
> Thanks,
> Dave
> 
> ===
> David R Hannum
> Ohio University
> Web Analyst/Programmer
> (740) 597-2524
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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> you're still having a lot more fun than if you're
> having fun and she's not!'  - Red Green
> 
> 
> 
> 

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RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[Steve Oliver]

That's usually where a portfolio comes in to play.  If you (with no CF
cert) show someone your work, and it's excellent work, then someone with
a CF cert shows them some work, and it's shabby, they're more then
likely going to go with the one with better skills and experience.

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-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 9:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Certification - feedback needed. 


  This is an interesting conclusion, but you probably do not have a big 
enough sample to say for sure.  I think there are a lot of plusses to 
certification, especially if you are consulting.  It makes you an expert
to 
people who don't know any better.

  And, just about every company uses some form of technology, but not
every 
company is a technology company.
  For example, let's say the editors of Mike's Guitars Magazine (Not a
real 
magazine) want to create a web-site and update it on a weekly basis
(Let's 
assume they publish issues on a weekly basis).  So, they turn around and

hire a full-time web developer.  If they understood web technology, they

probably wouldn't make good editors of a guitar magazine...  So, they
hire 
someone who does.  It makes logical business sense.


At 04:53 PM 02/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Never been certified in anything...that's not to say I'm not
certifiable
>though :)
>
>Before I was at the position I am in now, I had two offers I was
looking at.
>One paid higher, but was looking for the piece of paper. The other paid
>lower, but all they wanted was to talk to me and see code. Two and a
half
>years later I'm still at what was the lower paying job, and the other
>company  is out of business...
>
>Take from that what you will. What I take from it is that the only
companies
>that require certification are the ones who do not understand the
technology
>and can not evaluate a potential employee based on actual skills. Hence
they
>fail because they do not understand the industry that they are in.




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Re: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[Jeffry Houser]

  This is an interesting conclusion, but you probably do not have a big 
enough sample to say for sure.  I think there are a lot of plusses to 
certification, especially if you are consulting.  It makes you an expert to 
people who don't know any better.

  And, just about every company uses some form of technology, but not every 
company is a technology company.
  For example, let's say the editors of Mike's Guitars Magazine (Not a real 
magazine) want to create a web-site and update it on a weekly basis (Let's 
assume they publish issues on a weekly basis).  So, they turn around and 
hire a full-time web developer.  If they understood web technology, they 
probably wouldn't make good editors of a guitar magazine...  So, they hire 
someone who does.  It makes logical business sense.


At 04:53 PM 02/11/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Never been certified in anything...that's not to say I'm not certifiable
>though :)
>
>Before I was at the position I am in now, I had two offers I was looking at.
>One paid higher, but was looking for the piece of paper. The other paid
>lower, but all they wanted was to talk to me and see code. Two and a half
>years later I'm still at what was the lower paying job, and the other
>company  is out of business...
>
>Take from that what you will. What I take from it is that the only companies
>that require certification are the ones who do not understand the technology
>and can not evaluate a potential employee based on actual skills. Hence they
>fail because they do not understand the industry that they are in.




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RE: Upgrading to CF5 Server on Sun Solaris

[Dave Watts]

> Upgrading CF4.5 Server -> CF5 Server
> Now that probably everyone has upgraded their CF servers to 
> v.5 and are seasoned experts... We are finally ready to do 
> it here.

I'm hardly an expert when it comes to Solaris, but here's my two cents
anyway.

> We are running CF 4.5.1 SP 2 on Sun Solaris box...no ClusterCats 
> or Advanced Security.

You're a lucky man. Give a sigh of relief.

> 1. Installation guide does not say what happens to your 
> settings...server admin settings.
> Are they preserved??

They're all stored in one text file in 4.5.x and 5 anyway:
/opt/coldfusion/registry/cf.registry. I recently upgraded a CF 4.0.1 box to
CF 5, and there was a useful pre-install utility which migrated settings
from the WindU registry to the text file, I think.

> 2. Overall, are there any gotchas in upgrading to CF Server v.5?  
> Lessons learned?
> Tips?  Advice?

Actually, in my case, it was pretty painless, except for one thing. The
Apache module that comes with CF 5 doesn't work exactly right with older
versions of Apache 1.3.x, so I need to upgrade Apache - I'm running 1.3.4 on
there! The CF install package was nice enough to point out a couple of patch
dependencies.

You might also have issues if you previously had to change permissions on
database libraries, or anything like that. Hopefully, if that was the case,
you kept notes.

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RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.

[John Wilker]

I completely agree. If you plan (I'm not saying you do) to rest just on
the paper it's not worth much. After all it's just a test, I've seen
people pass the MCSE exams without actually having any experience, they
took classes and read books. That's not to say they are better qualified
than an engineer with a few years of experience.. 

I took the test because Keen said, if it boils down to two candidates
the own who took the time to get something in writing that he knows his
stuff maybe have better chances. I know that along with some other
extracurricular activities, my cert helped land my current gig.

The way I see it, it's what you make of it. I intend (some day to get
MM's web developer cert) just because IMHO it sets me apart as being
someone who put my money where my mouth is. Before any flames come my
way I'm not dissing anyone who is and ain't gonna get certified, but I
know plenty of developers who aren't worth half what they make and could
never pass the test, and I want to make sure when it comes down to me
and them, I stand out.

J.
 
 
John Wilker
Web Applications Consultant
Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer
President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG.
Writer / Technical Writer
www.red-omega.com
 
"more people are killed by donkeys than by airplane crashes each year"


-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 4:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Certification - feedback needed. 


Certification is NOT a panacea.  It's only one item on a list that
should include many other things - people skills, team involvement, a
portfolio of sorts etc.  Having said that, it's cheap and relatively
easy to get certified if you are an intermediate level programmer - so
why not? It won't automatically get you a job, but it will show you have
an interest in a certain level of professionalism - and that you are
ambitious (a desirable quality to managers who are not insecure). that's
my take and I'm sticking to it .

mark

-Original Message-
From: Keen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 1:31 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF Certification - feedback needed.


I have only seen a couple of job postings the say certification desired
or required.  In the current market it seems that who is willing to work
for the lowest rate is what the majority of employers are concerned with
- at least that is what I am seeing on SoCal.  That said I would still
take it because if you are competing with another developer that has the
same qualifications it may help tip things in your favor.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 10:19 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF Certification - feedback needed.


I sent out this email last week - Anyone want to share their feedback?

Thanks-
==


I may take the exam in few weeks and I'm wondering if anyone , who has
taken the exam and passed , would be willing to share some of their
stories after getting the certification.

Did it improve your employment or contract opportunities greatly? Did
the managers take you more seriously because they understood you were a
certified developer?

Things like that are coming to my mind lately and I'd love to hear all
people's success stories. Thanks!




Nathaniel Horwitz
Developer
http://www.nathanielhorwitz.com




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Upgrading to CF5 Server on Sun Solaris

[Bruce Holm]

Upgrading CF4.5 Server -> CF5 Server
Now that probably everyone has upgraded their CF servers to v.5 and are 
seasoned experts...
We are finally ready to do it here.

We are running CF 4.5.1 SP 2 on Sun Solaris box...no ClusterCats or 
Advanced Security.

1. Installation guide does not say what happens to your 
settings...server admin settings.
Are they preserved??

2. Overall, are there any gotchas in upgrading to CF Server v.5?  
Lessons learned?
Tips?  Advice?

I'd like to hear from you if all went well or if something went wrong 
(along with why and how you resolved it.)

Thanks!

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RE: Jeremy Allaire interview (is: GUI)

[Dave Watts]

> Well, I could also breed beluga and make caviar from scratch :)

You could, but that's a flawed analogy. You write a code module once, and
use it forever. I don't think you can eat the same fish eggs over again.

> Are you suggesting that I could call modules that generate 
> this code with ? That doesn't seem as a possibility.

No, there's no reason to use CFOBJECT. Just write something that generates
the appropriate output to the client. I know that, for example, we've built
lots of these sorts of objects. Here's a little example - it's a DHTML
display grid:

http://www.cfugorama.com/cfugorama/codelibrary/CF_GRID.cfm

Not quite as polished as the webcontrols object, I suppose, but certainly a
demonstration that whatever client-side functionality you want,
browser-specific or no, can easily be supported in a custom tag.

> How long is it going to take anybody to write a control that 
> will take this as input:
> 
> TabDefaultStyle="background-color:#00;font-family:verdana;
>font-weight:bold;font-size:8pt;color:#ff;width:79;height:21;
>text-align:center"
>TabHoverStyle="background-color:#77"
>TabSelectedStyle="background-color:#ff;color:#00">
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And produce examples as seen on this page?
> 
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/webcontrols/overview/tabstrip.asp
> 
> I am not trying to start a platform war here, I am just a 
> bit envious that we don't have these controls in CF.

One difference between Microsoft and MM is the sheer volume of code that MS
produces. However, as a developer, this could be a business opportunity for
you! Build a nice set of components, and sell them yourself!

It's also worth noting that MM is starting to build Flash UI components, and
I wouldn't be surprised if there are a bevy of these when Flash 6 comes out.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Dear Allaire/Macromedia Engineers: WDDX support for Recursive Str uctures

[Brendan Avery]

> Maybe I'm missing something, but this doesn't seem to make 
> sense to me.
> Recursion typically works from the "top" down - or more 
> appropriately in
> this case, from the "outside" in,

structural recursion (without conditional constraint syntax) is by
definition 'infinitely' recursive.  but that's not a problem when you've got
structs.  for example:





this is completely doable, and is useful for some abstract applications
(like for developing decision-path expressions, building syntax parsers, or
indices for grammar induction systems, etc).  since the implied application
of wddx is the transfer of (complex) data-structures between systems, it
would be nice if there was an inclusion of syntax for recursion.

> while in your example, 
> you're working from
> the inside out - which at least in this case would never 
> finish, since your
> parser would rebrowse the nested variable, which would point 
> to the outer
> variable, which would take you to the nested variable ...

the wddx parser need-not infinitely traverse the structure, but merely
assign the same pointer/reference that the cf engine uses when creating
references to structs, whenever it hits a pointer-type variable.

> For what it's worth, I've never encountered recursion in any 
> XML language to
> my recollection.

neither have i.  but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be hella useful.  there
are tons of common plex structures which have multi-entry points into nodes
and in many cases have completely circular references.  maybe i'm the only
one who thinks it'd be useful if there were a standard way to transfer these
structures across systems or have an easy way to store and rebuild them in
an xml format.

> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444

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RE: QueryNew - order by

[Herbener, Martin - School Information Technology]

A couple on Macromedia's dev ex:

http://devex.macromedia.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA3470F8-283
0-11D4
-AA9700508B94F380&method=Full

http://devex.macromedia.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=44C48F77-35E
9-11D4
-83D700508B94F85A&method=Full

http://devex.macromedia.com/developer/gallery/info.cfm?ID=CA347619-283
0-11D4
-AA9700508B94F380&method=Full

The first is Nate Weiss', the second is mine based on his (some 
additional
features and a CFX instead of CFML); they both work for me.  I haven't 
tried
the third one.

> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2002 10:38 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: QueryNew - order by
> 
> 
> > Quick question, I am creating a query with QueryNew ... is 
> > there anyway to do an order by type action to a CF created 
> > query? (I do not want to use a Query of Queries... I need 
> > something supported for v4.5 +
> 
> Not directly, but there's nothing to stop you from reordering 
> it yourself
> (you could do this with any query, not just ones created with 
> QueryNew,
> though). You'd have to build your own sort routine, which 
> would loop through
> the query object and "reorder" rows. You'd probably want to have your
> routine build a new query object.
> 
> I wouldn't be surprised if there was a custom tag available for this
> already, but if there isn't, it shouldn't take more than a 
> few minutes to
> write, I'd guess.
> 
> Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
> http://www.figleaf.com/
> voice: (202) 797-5496
> fax: (202) 797-5444
> 

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RE: SQL Server on a separate machine

[Bill Grover]

Sorry to hear about your problems.

What we have done is to create a specific domain admin user for CF to 
run
under.  Then we configured CF to start as this user.  Whenever CF wants 
to
access something (databases, files, sql server, anything) either 
locally or
on the network it will access the information using whatever "user" it
created the service as.  By creating this user we set it up so that 
when CF
wants to access something it has the rights to it.

Then we create our ODBC connections through the administrator page we 
tell
it to use a trusted connection.  This allows CF to verify the 
connection and
confirm that everything is running.  

However, when we write our pages that actually use the database we 
supply a
user name and password that we want.  This supplied user name and 
password
overrides anything set when we created the connection.

Hope this helps.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Kay Smoljak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 9:04 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: SQL Server on a separate machine
> 
> 
> > OK. At this point, I'd try the MDAC upgrade, personally.
> 
> I just installed 2.7, and I'm still getting exactly the same error
> message.
> 
> > You should be able to connect with an SQL login - a username 
> > and password created within the SQL Enterprise Manager. That 
> > would be the ideal solution. If that doesn't work, and an 
> > MDAC upgrade doesn't work either, then you could create that 
> > new account. You'd only have to run the CF server within that 
> > account, and could leave the other services alone.
> 
> I changed the account that the CF Server starts under to the network
> administrator account - it couldn't even log in with mine, which has
> most Administator privileges. Now it works. I realize it's not ideal,
> but the CF Server on my machine is the Developer Edition, so 
> only my IP
> is connecting anyway, and the service has to be started manually as I
> don't require it all the time. And there's only six people in 
> the office
> and we're all really nice, honest :) 
> 
> I wonder if this problem has something to do with Small 
> Business Server
> - it's got some funny restrictions, we've found, as it's meant to be 
a
> "one box does everything" solution.
> 
> Thanks for all the help!
> Kay.
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>   
> Level 9/105 St George's Terrace - Perth - Western Australia 
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>  
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Re: Help with insert statment into sql 2000

[Santhosh]

Hello David,

In your Insert statement table columns 14 is there and you are paasing th
e
values 15.
and there is no need single quotas if the database column is numeric
datatype.

From
T.santhoshkumar



- Original Message -
From: "Andy Parry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2002 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: Help with insert statment into sql 2000


> David
> Maybe there are some " or ' quote marks (or comma) in your data, result
in
> g
> in this error.
> Are all these fields defined as text in the table ? a variable such as 
Pr
> ice
> is likely to be numeric and will not like being enclosed in quote marks.
>
> hth,
> andy
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: David Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, 11 February 2002 9:31 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Help with insert statment into sql 2000
> >
> >
> > Insert into dbo.cdm
> > (FAC,DPT,REV,FIM,F5,SIM,SimDescription,UP,HCPCS,PRICE,OpPrice,PRO,
> > SUPP,Supp2
> > )
> > values
> > ('B', 'BRB', '6005', '600510023', '*', '10023', '7 AV.WEST LAT.PSYCH
> > OBSERVATION', '0762', '', '75000', '', 'NO', '2', '04/29/2001')
> >
> >  is now my output and here is my error code
> > OLEDB Error Code = 109
> > There are more columns in the INSERT statement than values
> > specified in the
> > VALUES clause. The number of values in the VALUES clause must match t
he
> > number of columns specified in the INSERT statement.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The error occurred while processing an element with a general
> > identifier of
> > (CFQUERY), occupying document position (38:2) to (38:60).
> >
> >
> >
> > Here my code.
> >
> >  > variable="aaaweb">
> > 
> > 
> >  sp_columns CDM
> > 
> >
> > 
> >  DELETE
> >  FROM dbo.cdm
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
> > 
> >  
> > 
> >
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >
> >  
> >
> > 
> >  Insert into dbo.cdm
> >  (#ColumnHeader#)
> >  values
> >  ('#RTrim(ColumnData)#')
> >  
> >  Insert Into dbo.CDM
> >   (#ColumnHeader#)
> >  Values
> >  ('#RTrim(ColumnData)#')
> >
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > 
> >
> > 
> > 
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Andy Parry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2002 7:56 PM
> > Subject: RE: Help with insert statment into sql 2000
> >
> >
> > > Hi david,
> > > you need commas to separate the values in the value list, and indiv
id
> ual
> > > quotation marks around character fields.
> > > You have a single string as a value, hence the SQL server
> > thinks that you
> > > are only submitting a single value, yet your insert statement is sa
yi
> ng
> > that
> > > you are sending 14 values.
> > >
> > > HTH
> > > andy
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: David Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Monday, 11 February 2002 8:49 AM
> > > > To: CF-Talk
> > > > Subject: Help with insert statment into sql 2000
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Help.
> > > > I get this error every time I try to insert into my table.
> > > > OLEDB Error Code = 109
> > > > There are more columns in the INSERT statement than values
> > > > specified in the
> > > > VALUES clause. The number of values in the VALUES clause must
> > match the
> > > > number of columns specified in the INSERT statement.
> > > >
> > > > Here the output of my sql statment.
> > > >
> > > > Insert into dbo.cdm
> > > > (FAC, DPT, REV, FIM, F5, SIM, SimDescription, UP, HCPCS,
> > PRICE, OpPrice,
> > > > PRO, SUPP, Supp2)
> > > > values
> > > > ('B BRB 6005 600510023 * 10023 7 AV_WEST LAT_PSYCH OBSERVATION
> > > > 0762 75000 NO
> > > > 2 04/29/2001')
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: Client Vars expiring? When?

[Mark Smyth]

hi

this  code will expire the client variables when the browser closes

hth
mark


  
  
  
  


-Original Message-
From: Andrew Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 11 February 2002 07:00
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Client Vars expiring? When? 


Mike,

Are you sure that you are expiring the CFID & CFToken each and every
time in the application.cfm template. I posted code in the CF Aussie
mailing list that will do what you want it to do.


-Original Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, 11 February 2002 4:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Client Vars expiring? When? 

I thought that client variables were extinguished every time the 
browser
was
closed.   Perhaps I was wrong with this.

I am developing an access control app using client vars and when I 
close
the
browser and open it again, I am still logged in and can just go direct
to my
protected page.   When I open a totally different browser (e.g.
netscape4.7
instead of IE5,) I am sent to the login page as I expected, so part of
the
system is working ok.

Do client vars expire when the browser is closed? Or do I have to 
expire
them myself somehow?  In which case,  how do I detect that the browser
has
closed and the client vars have to be killed?

Cheers,
Mike Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP WebWorks



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