RE: WebTrends uniqe visitors stat
Just confirming that you are correct in saying that webtrends tracks by IP address for each unique user, so it is inaccurate if you have multiple users coming from behind a proxy server. They won't be shown. We had a student app that was showing loads of hits but a ridiculously low number of unique users. This was the reason. Regards, Declan -Original Message- From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 April 2002 21:56 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: WebTrends uniqe visitors stat Years ago we used WebTrends and they included an ISAPI filter that sent users a cookie solely for tracking purposes. The cookie contents were logged in the IIS logs. This is the only way to really identify unique visitors. If you don't see Webtrends cookies in your log files, then you're correct - it's just using IP addresses. Transparent proxy servers, cookie-blocking firewalls are just a couple of things that will skew those numbers. There's a pretty big debate in online advertising circles regarding the unique visitor numbers being reported by web sites. They're waking up to the fact that the data is so bad that it's almost meaningless. Jim - Original Message - From: BEN MORRIS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 01, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: OT: WebTrends uniqe visitors stat Does anyone know precisely how the unique visitors statistic is determined in web trends? Is it the number of unique IP addresses that hit the site? Looking through the log file, the only thing I could find to differentiate between users is the client IP address, but that is imperfect as users behind a proxy would be counted as the same person. TIA --- Ben Morris Web Site Developer American Federation of Government Employees, AFL-CIO (202) 639-6448 www.afge.org __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
siteminder error when start up CF server
dear all, i've changed my web server (Sun Solaris) IP address to a new IP address, and when i start up the CF server it gave the error below : Apr 3 16:56:11 ehealth4all SiteMinder[8279]: CATEGORY: 3 Object Store failed operation 'ProviderInit' for object type 'Object Store Provider'. Exception: '' Apr 3 16:56:12 ehealth4all SiteMinder[8284]: CATEGORY: 1 Object Store failed operation 'ProviderInit' for object type 'Object Store Provider'. Exception: '' ERROR: Siteminder daemon SMSERVAZ failed to start! is there any setting i need to reconfigure? any help? --- Pharmaniaga Berhad, your integrated healthcare provider www.pharmaniaga.com.my www.ehealth4all.com, your most convenient way to healthcare, everyday... The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged material. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. --- __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF doing strange things with dates
I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates
(dd/mm/yy).
But CF is converting dates on or before the 12th of the month to the US
format - {d '2002-12-04'} while dates after the 12th are being formatted as
European - {d '2002-04-13'}
This happens with both CreateODBCDate and CFQUERYPARAM.
Unless I'm missing something this makes Eurodate validation pretty
pointless...
Any suggestions?
Tristram Charnley
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RE: CF doing strange things with dates
It's probably not the most correct solution, but I use something like this
to vaildate European dates:
cftry
#createdate(#listgetat(#userdate#,3,-)#,#listgetat(#userdate#,2,-)#,
#listgetat(#userdate#,1,-)#)#
cfcatch blablabla...
/ctry
There are probably more efficient ways to do this, but this works fine for
me. Hope it helps.
Jille
-Original Message-
From: Tristram Charnley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 3 april 2002 13:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF doing strange things with dates
I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates
(dd/mm/yy).
But CF is converting dates on or before the 12th of the month to the US
format - {d '2002-12-04'} while dates after the 12th are being formatted as
European - {d '2002-04-13'}
This happens with both CreateODBCDate and CFQUERYPARAM.
Unless I'm missing something this makes Eurodate validation pretty
pointless...
Any suggestions?
Tristram Charnley
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RE: CF doing strange things with dates
That's automatic in CF (server side validation, CreateODBCDate, ...). I suggest using
CreateDate and treating the date (dd/mm/) as a list.
Pascal
-Original Message-
From: Tristram Charnley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 3 april 2002 13:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF doing strange things with dates
I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates
(dd/mm/yy).
But CF is converting dates on or before the 12th of the month to the US
format - {d '2002-12-04'} while dates after the 12th are being formatted as
European - {d '2002-04-13'}
This happens with both CreateODBCDate and CFQUERYPARAM.
Unless I'm missing something this makes Eurodate validation pretty
pointless...
Any suggestions?
Tristram Charnley
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Re: CFREPORT and Error 500
Crystal Reports professional comes with a 5 user license agreement that will allow up to 5 reports run at a time. I have not used cfreport with Crystal, but I have used ASP and I know with ASP, the licenses can get eaten up pretty quick. (Crystal keeps track of the open objects and will not allow any more to be launched past your license) We had to purchase a universal connector license or something like that to allow our company access. It was not very cheap at all and we have around 500 users.I inherited this project after the decision to use Crystal was made and they won't tell me how much they spent on it. All I know is that they weren't real happy when I suggested we dump Crystal and go with a straight CF/ASP/JSP solution. Needless to say, I am stuck with it for a while Good Luck! Tim P. - Original Message - From: Gieseman, Athelene [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:09 PM Subject: RE: CFREPORT and Error 500 I use Crystal 8.0 web page server. It's very easy to pass information from CF to the Crystal report. The following is an example of what I've done that has worked for me: cflocation url=http://kcweb/firmdaily/isweb/ISBudget/PO.rpt?Prompt0=#FindPO#; FindPO is the variable I'm sending from CF. It is the first Prompt variable in the report. If I were to send another, I'd add it to the end as Prompt1. E.g.: cflocation url=http://kcweb/firmdaily/isweb/ISBudget/PO.rpt?Prompt0=#FindPO#Prompt1=# TheOtherVariable# This has worked reliably for me. One word of caution though. I understand from someone on another list that version 8.5 requires a license for each person who runs a report off of the web page server. I haven't verified with Seagate. But if it's true, it would be way too expensive for us to use (with about 1000 users.) Maybe someone on this list can answer if they've used the latest version and if there is a licensing issue. Athelene Gieseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFREPORT and Error 500 In the CF Forums you can find a lot about using CFReport. Last I checked the tag was depreciated since version 5 of Crystal Reports. Crystal has it's own webserver product now. Crystal seems to have spent a good deal of time integrating their product with ASP. I also remember some undocumented features to the CFReport tag you must use to pass parameters to the newer versions. Check the Forums. I hope the info is still there. If not, send me a direct email and I'll dig about my own archives for some of the examples I downloaded. Keep in mind that Crystal is on version 8 now. CFReport is meant to work with Version 5. Hope that helps. Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/02 01:25PM I am trying to pass a variable to CFREPORT and I continue to receive the following. There is very little on the Allaire discussion forums about this. I am running CF 5 and CR 8.5. I thought the previous problems regarding CFREPORT has been fixed in CF 5. Anyone have an idea on this? Error Diagnostic Information Error occurred while processing CFREPORT An unexpected error occurred while using the Crystal Engine. Error number 500 ocurred (Not enough memory for operation.). Crystal Library = C:\WINNT\system32\CRPE32.DLL (2/10/2001 1:43) DLL Version = 8.80, Engine Version = 8.80 The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFREPORT), occupying document position (9:1) to (9:59). Date/Time: 04/02/02 11:02:09 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; T312461) Remote Address: 129.43.39.167 Alan L. Wolf MCSE, MCP, MCP + I SAIC Frederick PO Box B Bldg 458 Frederick, Maryland 21702 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 301-846-5479 (V) 301-846-6886 (F) __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: best password encryption method
when logging in, you hash the entered password, then do a select on the username, and the hashed password - if you get a record back, they are authenticated. Doing it this way avoids ever having to decrypt a password. Only catch is if you offer a system that can email the password to a user - now you need to decrypt the password, which hashing does not support. I started hashing passwords recently. For 'lost passwords': - User enters email address. - If there's a match with a user account, that account is flagged and site admin(s) are automatically emailed notification that someone's waiting. - Site admin logs in, and either clicks to generate new random password for user or enters one manually (obviously the former is better so that no one ever sees anyone else's password). - This is mailed off to user. - When a user first logs in, I have a 'change password if you want' screen - this is flagged to come up again if their password is changed as above. I like the way this system allows users to put their own usual, secure passwords into your DB secure in the knowledge that even sysadmins can't see them. One of those things you take for granted on many websites until you have to code it yourself :) - Gyrus - [EMAIL PROTECTED] work: http://www.tengai.co.uk play: http://www.norlonto.net - PGP key available __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
asynchronous verity
For reasons I need not explain (too complicated), whenever a DB update happens I have to shuffle the record between 3 different verity indexes. It can be 1 update (not too bad) or 1 update and 2 deletes or 2 updates and 1 delete or 1 or 2 deletes. They are quite big indexes so 2 or 3 updates is rather slow. This need not happen instantly (like before the updated page appears) but should happen fairly soon after the update (so a 15 min scheduled event, for example, would be too slow). Is there any way I can set these verity updates to happen asynchronously to the next page impression? -- Regards; Richard Meredith-Hardy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mob: + 44 7771 526513 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Tristram Charnley wrote: I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates (dd/mm/yy). Why? If you let them enter dates using ISO format (-mm-dd) at least it is clear what they mean. And it is the official dateformat almost everywhere in Europe anyway. Anyway, use CreateDate() to create a date you can send to CreateODBCDate(). Jochem __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Umm. There are only 2 delimiters in the list and I don't think you need all
the # signs
Tris
- Original Message -
From: Jille Floridor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: CF doing strange things with dates
It's probably not the most correct solution, but I use something like this
to vaildate European dates:
cftry
#createdate(#listgetat(#userdate#,3,-)#,#listgetat(#userdate#,2,-)#,
#listgetat(#userdate#,1,-)#)#
cfcatch blablabla...
/ctry
There are probably more efficient ways to do this, but this works fine for
me. Hope it helps.
Jille
-Original Message-
From: Tristram Charnley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 3 april 2002 13:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF doing strange things with dates
I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates
(dd/mm/yy).
But CF is converting dates on or before the 12th of the month to the US
format - {d '2002-12-04'} while dates after the 12th are being formatted
as
European - {d '2002-04-13'}
This happens with both CreateODBCDate and CFQUERYPARAM.
Unless I'm missing something this makes Eurodate validation pretty
pointless...
Any suggestions?
Tristram Charnley
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RE: INPUT
Won't work. It outputs the input text. Error on #MyGroups# cfoutput #MyGroups# class=navlinks /cfoutput Output error: [ Add ] input type=hidden name=submit value= At 08:42 AM 4/3/2002 +0200, you wrote: You're missing a CFOUTPUT around the hidden -Original Message- From: phumes1 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: dinsdag 2 april 2002 18:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: INPUT Yup, Me again, I'm trying to pass the #user# selected from the down-down menu to the hidden input field and pass that to my template. Lets say I select phumes1 from the list. I want this passed to my template file but all I get when I submit this code is. #MyGroups# form action=groups-action.cfm?MyGroups=#User# name=display select name=gd size=1 onChange=groupdisplay() class=dirlinks option value=# selectedSelect...nbsp;/option cfoutput query=Users group=user option value=groups-list-action.cfm?MyGroups=#User##User#/option /cfoutput /select input type=submit name=submit value=Add class=navlinks input type=hidden name=results value=#MyGroups# class=navlinks /form +---+ Philip Humeniuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Tristram,
You're right about all the hashes/pound signs, but the 3 refers to the item
in the list rather than the list delimiter i.e.. the year.
cfset realdate =
createdate(listgetat(userdate,3,-),listgetat(userdate,2,-),listgetat(use
rdate,1,-))
Should do the trick. Also you might want to look at the Locale functions to
ensure that CF handles your dates correctly.
Generally I tend to make sure that users are entering valid dates, by giving
them 3 drop downs, one for day, month and year and checking that they
haven't entered anything daft like the 31 Feb and make sure that the year is
restricted to sensible values (i.e.. Credit Card expiry date has to be in
the future)
Hope that helps
Regards
Stephen
- Original Message -
From: Tristram Charnley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Umm. There are only 2 delimiters in the list and I don't think you need
all
the # signs
Tris
- Original Message -
From: Jille Floridor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: CF doing strange things with dates
It's probably not the most correct solution, but I use something like
this
to vaildate European dates:
cftry
#createdate(#listgetat(#userdate#,3,-)#,#listgetat(#userdate#,2,-)#,
#listgetat(#userdate#,1,-)#)#
cfcatch blablabla...
/ctry
There are probably more efficient ways to do this, but this works fine
for
me. Hope it helps.
Jille
-Original Message-
From: Tristram Charnley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 3 april 2002 13:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF doing strange things with dates
I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates
(dd/mm/yy).
But CF is converting dates on or before the 12th of the month to the US
format - {d '2002-12-04'} while dates after the 12th are being formatted
as
European - {d '2002-04-13'}
This happens with both CreateODBCDate and CFQUERYPARAM.
Unless I'm missing something this makes Eurodate validation pretty
pointless...
Any suggestions?
Tristram Charnley
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Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Stephen
I'd already figured out the list items thing but thanks anyway. I had
considered using select boxes but there are quite a few date fields on the
form and it would be a bit clunky.
It occurred to me that the TwoSelectsRelated tag could also be a good way to
ensure correct dates
were being passed.
Tristram
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Tristram,
You're right about all the hashes/pound signs, but the 3 refers to the
item
in the list rather than the list delimiter i.e.. the year.
cfset realdate =
createdate(listgetat(userdate,3,-),listgetat(userdate,2,-),listgetat(use
rdate,1,-))
Should do the trick. Also you might want to look at the Locale functions
to
ensure that CF handles your dates correctly.
Generally I tend to make sure that users are entering valid dates, by
giving
them 3 drop downs, one for day, month and year and checking that they
haven't entered anything daft like the 31 Feb and make sure that the year
is
restricted to sensible values (i.e.. Credit Card expiry date has to be in
the future)
Hope that helps
Regards
Stephen
- Original Message -
From: Tristram Charnley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Umm. There are only 2 delimiters in the list and I don't think you need
all
the # signs
Tris
- Original Message -
From: Jille Floridor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: CF doing strange things with dates
It's probably not the most correct solution, but I use something like
this
to vaildate European dates:
cftry
#createdate(#listgetat(#userdate#,3,-)#,#listgetat(#userdate#,2,-)#,
#listgetat(#userdate#,1,-)#)#
cfcatch blablabla...
/ctry
There are probably more efficient ways to do this, but this works fine
for
me. Hope it helps.
Jille
-Original Message-
From: Tristram Charnley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 3 april 2002 13:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF doing strange things with dates
I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates
(dd/mm/yy).
But CF is converting dates on or before the 12th of the month to the
US
format - {d '2002-12-04'} while dates after the 12th are being
formatted
as
European - {d '2002-04-13'}
This happens with both CreateODBCDate and CFQUERYPARAM.
Unless I'm missing something this makes Eurodate validation pretty
pointless...
Any suggestions?
Tristram Charnley
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DSN Password
Hi, Can I decrypt a DSN password like administrator password? Thanks in advance FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
HELP!!! Date problems
I have a database with holiday dates in it. I have a date (duedate) and I
want to see if duedate has a holidaydate between now and duedate. I also
want to see if the duedate lands on a holiday. If there is a holiday then I
want to subract 1 day from duedate. Shouldn't this give me what I need?
CFLOOP QUERY=GetHolidaydate
CFIF ((DateCompare(DATEDUE,
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)#) IS 1) AND
(DateCompare(NEWDATE,
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)#) IS -1)) OR
(DateCompare(DATEDUE,
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)#) IS 0)
CFSET NEWDATE3 = #DateAdd('D', -1,
DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
CFIF DAY IS Sunday
CFSET DATEDUE =
#DateAdd('D', -2, DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
CFIF DAY IS Saturday
CFSET DATEDUE =
#DATEADD('D', -1, DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
!--- QUERY FOR A HOLIDAY COUNT ---
CFQUERY
DATASOURCE=#application.lldbDatasource# name=GetHolidayCount
select count(1) hlday_cnt
from ll_holiday
where
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)# = #CreateODBCDate(DATEDUE)#
/CFQUERY
CFIF GetHolidayCount.hlday_cnt EQ
1
CFSET DATEDUE =
#DATEADD('D', -1, DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
/CFLOOP
Steven Lancaster
Barrios Technology
NASA/JSC
281-244-2444 (voice)
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Re: CF doing strange things with dates
why not use cf_cal, not sure about cross browser compatability but it is
worth checking it out. you can then make the text box read only to ensure
that the user cannot edit the date that is inserted. Is available in the
developers gallery at macromedia.com
HTH
Simon
- Original Message -
From: Tristram Charnley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Stephen
I'd already figured out the list items thing but thanks anyway. I had
considered using select boxes but there are quite a few date fields on
the
form and it would be a bit clunky.
It occurred to me that the TwoSelectsRelated tag could also be a good way
to
ensure correct dates
were being passed.
Tristram
- Original Message -
From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:50 PM
Subject: Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Tristram,
You're right about all the hashes/pound signs, but the 3 refers to the
item
in the list rather than the list delimiter i.e.. the year.
cfset realdate =
createdate(listgetat(userdate,3,-),listgetat(userdate,2,-),listgetat(use
rdate,1,-))
Should do the trick. Also you might want to look at the Locale
functions
to
ensure that CF handles your dates correctly.
Generally I tend to make sure that users are entering valid dates, by
giving
them 3 drop downs, one for day, month and year and checking that they
haven't entered anything daft like the 31 Feb and make sure that the
year
is
restricted to sensible values (i.e.. Credit Card expiry date has to be
in
the future)
Hope that helps
Regards
Stephen
- Original Message -
From: Tristram Charnley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:06 PM
Subject: Re: CF doing strange things with dates
Umm. There are only 2 delimiters in the list and I don't think you
need
all
the # signs
Tris
- Original Message -
From: Jille Floridor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:42 PM
Subject: RE: CF doing strange things with dates
It's probably not the most correct solution, but I use something
like
this
to vaildate European dates:
cftry
#createdate(#listgetat(#userdate#,3,-)#,#listgetat(#userdate#,2,-)#,
#listgetat(#userdate#,1,-)#)#
cfcatch blablabla...
/ctry
There are probably more efficient ways to do this, but this works
fine
for
me. Hope it helps.
Jille
-Original Message-
From: Tristram Charnley
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: woensdag 3 april 2002 13:37
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF doing strange things with dates
I want users to enter dates in forms using European format dates
(dd/mm/yy).
But CF is converting dates on or before the 12th of the month to the
US
format - {d '2002-12-04'} while dates after the 12th are being
formatted
as
European - {d '2002-04-13'}
This happens with both CreateODBCDate and CFQUERYPARAM.
Unless I'm missing something this makes Eurodate validation pretty
pointless...
Any suggestions?
Tristram Charnley
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RE: DSN Password
Can I decrypt a DSN password like administrator password? Yes. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFtransaction crap
I generally use cftry/cfcatch in conjunction with cftransaction. This allows you to roll back if errors are encountered. You really don't have to do this. That's one of the features that CFTRANSACTION provides for you. If you have multiple queries within a single transaction, and any fails, all changes made by any other query within the transaction are rolled back. I can understand why a lot of people do this, since the CF documentation shows an example of this, but again, it's not necessary. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFtransaction crap
Ok I don't think the ODBC drivers I have support the cftransaction, how can I be sure though, there isn't an error message. If I am updating a record and I rollback at the end, it should go back to the number it was before, correct? Or does it only work for inserts. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFtransaction crap I generally use cftry/cfcatch in conjunction with cftransaction. This allows you to roll back if errors are encountered. You really don't have to do this. That's one of the features that CFTRANSACTION provides for you. If you have multiple queries within a single transaction, and any fails, all changes made by any other query within the transaction are rolled back. I can understand why a lot of people do this, since the CF documentation shows an example of this, but again, it's not necessary. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Where is the best place to put business rules?
1) Where is the best place to put the business rules? CF Templates (using CFTransaction), or Stored Procedures (using SQL Transactions). We realize that some business rules need to reside on the templates, such as client side data validation. But processing pages are a different story. In general, I think that stored procedures are better for any generic data manipulation tasks. Using stored procedures provides many advantages, such as more efficient processing and the ability to more easily replace or augment the presentation layer code. You did mention n-tier apps, and it's worth pointing out that in a three-tier app, the things you generally think of as business rules would be implemented in the middle tier, between the presentation layer code (CF, in this case) and the database. However, to the extent that your business rules are data manipulation issues, you're better off putting them in the database tier of your two-tier application. 2) What is more likely to need clustering - the Web/CF Server, or the SQL Server. The web servers are more likely to benefit from clustering, in general. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFtransaction crap
Ok I don't think the ODBC drivers I have support the cftransaction, how can I be sure though, there isn't an error message. If I am updating a record and I rollback at the end, it should go back to the number it was before, correct? Or does it only work for inserts. Yes, if you make a change, then rollback that change, the record should contain the values it had before the transaction began. You might try a different ISOLATION attribute; maybe the default is too loose. I'd try ISOLATION=serializable, and see what happens then. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Location trouble
Hi friends: I'm trying to log into a site remotely using CFHTTP. The login.asp redirect me to the home page if everything is OK. The problem is that the internal URL in the asp code seems to be relative. and I'm getting back a 302 code. Is there any parameter that I can pass in the CFHTTP to overcome this problem??.Any ideas??? I'm posting down here the coldfusion code and what I'm getting in the browser. Thanks in advance friends. Mario /*Coldfusion Code*/ cfhttp RESOLVEURL=Yes REFERER=http://admin.elementk.com/Login/login.asp; REDIRECT=No USERAGENT=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1; Q312461) METHOD=POST URL=http://admin.elementk.com/Login/login.asp; cfhttpparam NAME=f_strUserName TYPE=FormField VALUE=#myusername# cfhttpparam NAME=f_strPassword TYPE=FormField VALUE=#mypassword# cfhttpparam NAME=f_flgProcess TYPE=FormField VALUE=1 cfhttpparam NAME=Login TYPE=FormField VALUE=1 /cfhttp /*What I see in the browser*/ !--- This example is to test the login --- Connection Failure The mime-type: text/html The Status Code: 302 Moved Temporarily The Raw Header: HTTP/1.1 302 Object moved Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:49:15 GMT Location: /Home/home.asp Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Length: 135 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ZDUSMSK=%14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW%5B%5F%12; path=/ Cache-control: private Output the Response Headers: CACHE-CONTROL : private CONNECTION : Keep-Alive CONTENT-LENGTH : 135 CONTENT-TYPE : text/html DATE : Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:49:15 GMT EXPLANATION : Object HTTP_VERSION : HTTP/1.1 LOCATION : /Home/home.asp SERVER : Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Cookie : %14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW%5B%5F%12 SET-COOKIE : ZDUSMSK=%14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW%5B%5F%12; path=/ STATUS_CODE : 302 _ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: compilation error from POST????
try POST with capital letters. POST --- Jeff Fongemie [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hello everyone, For some reason, CF gives me an error with this line: FORM ACTION=https://myotjersite.cfm; METHOD=post I'm I missing something all of a sudden?? I've got a closing form tag too. Just in time compilation error Invalid parser construct found on line 184 at position 15. ColdFusion was looking at the following text: POST Invalid expression format. The usual cause is an error in the expression structure. Best regards, Jeff Fongemie mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Composed on Tuesday, April 02, 2002, at 5:34:07 PM __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFTREE no longer delivering form node values?
where is the code?? regards Mario --- Ian Lurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi all, I've got a CFTREE that I've been using, literally, for 3 years without a hitch. Suddenly today, we started getting CF errors indicating that the form.cats.node value is no longer being passed. I've checked everything - the code is literally untouched since 2000. Could it be a special character issue or some such? Help... Ian Portent Interactive Helping clients build customer relationships on the web since 1995 Consulting, design, development, measurement http://www.portentinteractive.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Intranet/Hosting Toolkit
Hi, Is anyone using the custom tag CFX_Users ACTION=USERS to list all the nt user accounts and CFX_Users ACTION=GROUPS SCOPE=Local USER=username to list tassociated groups for a specific user? http://www.intrafoundation.com/ihtk.html +---+ Philip Humeniuk [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ++ __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Stored procedure - use dbo.?
Thought I read/heard somewhere that prefacing the stored procedure name in the cfstoredproc tag with dbo. would reduce the amount of SQL Server recompiling taking place, e.g.: cfstoredproc procedure=dbo.procedurename datasource=dsn cfprocparam ... cfprocresult ... /cfstoredproc Does anyone have any experience with this from a best practices standpoint? Advantages/disadvantages? Thanks in advance, Matt Kornguth Web Applications Developer BLR __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: SQL ?
I was wondering if this is true or not, can someone answer this? Say I have a table with 60,000 records in it, and I have a query where I want the data with an ID of 4000. I heard sql searches like so 1 - 6 2 - 5 3 - 59998 but if you have an index, it does it like 1 2 3 4 until it gets to the correct ID Success is a journey, not a destination!! Doug Brown __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFtransaction crap
-Original Message- From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 5:51 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFtransaction crap I generally use cftry/cfcatch in conjunction with cftransaction. This allows you to roll back if errors are encountered. You really don't have to do this. That's one of the features that CFTRANSACTION provides for you. If you have multiple queries within a single transaction, and any fails, all changes made by any other query within the transaction are rolled back. I can understand why a lot of people do this, since the CF documentation shows an example of this, but again, it's not necessary. I actually do this because I often have some additional processing that takes place between the query statements. An example might be where I update a structure to contain a max ID that I retrieved for one of the inserts. If there is some other problem in other logic, cftransaction won't catch it. Another thing I might do is retry something once or twice if the error happens to be a db connection timeout. Helps avoid sending the please retry message back to the user. This requires me to catch the error type. David Schmidt __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Possible to select more than one text field?
Is it possible to select more than one field of the type text using CF, OLEDB, and MSSQL 2000? I can select one text field just fine: SELECT id, realtext2 FROM dbo.testview But when I try two or more: SELECT id, realtext2, realtext FROM dbo.testview ^^ ^^ I get: Error Diagnostic Information OLEDB Error Code = 0 No such interface supported What's the scoop? I'm almost ready to go back to ODBC -- I've had too many problems with OLEDB. Thanks, Jamie _ __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFREPORT and Error 500
Now I'm getting the following error. What am I missing? Quotes around the form parameter? Sorry for the beginner question. Error Occurred While Processing Request Error Diagnostic Information An error occurred while evaluating the expression: http://s049188/itweb/testreport.rpt?music.artistcode=#form.artistcode#; Error near line 9, column 18. Error resolving parameter FORM.ARTISTCODE The specified form field cannot be found. This problem is very likely due to the fact that you have misspelled the form field name. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFLOCATION), occupying document position (9:1) to (9:104) in the template file c:\inetpub\wwwroot\itweb\report.cfm. Date/Time: 04/03/02 10:05:11 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; T312461) Remote Address: 129.43.39.167 Alan L. Wolf MCSE, MCP, MCP + I SAIC Frederick PO Box B Bldg 458 Frederick, Maryland 21702 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 301-846-5479 (V) 301-846-6886 (F) -Original Message- From: Gieseman, Athelene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFREPORT and Error 500 I use Crystal 8.0 web page server. It's very easy to pass information from CF to the Crystal report. The following is an example of what I've done that has worked for me: cflocation url=http://kcweb/firmdaily/isweb/ISBudget/PO.rpt?Prompt0=#FindPO#; FindPO is the variable I'm sending from CF. It is the first Prompt variable in the report. If I were to send another, I'd add it to the end as Prompt1. E.g.: cflocation url=http://kcweb/firmdaily/isweb/ISBudget/PO.rpt?Prompt0=#FindPO#Prompt1=# TheOtherVariable# This has worked reliably for me. One word of caution though. I understand from someone on another list that version 8.5 requires a license for each person who runs a report off of the web page server. I haven't verified with Seagate. But if it's true, it would be way too expensive for us to use (with about 1000 users.) Maybe someone on this list can answer if they've used the latest version and if there is a licensing issue. Athelene Gieseman [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Rick Walters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 1:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFREPORT and Error 500 In the CF Forums you can find a lot about using CFReport. Last I checked the tag was depreciated since version 5 of Crystal Reports. Crystal has it's own webserver product now. Crystal seems to have spent a good deal of time integrating their product with ASP. I also remember some undocumented features to the CFReport tag you must use to pass parameters to the newer versions. Check the Forums. I hope the info is still there. If not, send me a direct email and I'll dig about my own archives for some of the examples I downloaded. Keep in mind that Crystal is on version 8 now. CFReport is meant to work with Version 5. Hope that helps. Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/02 01:25PM I am trying to pass a variable to CFREPORT and I continue to receive the following. There is very little on the Allaire discussion forums about this. I am running CF 5 and CR 8.5. I thought the previous problems regarding CFREPORT has been fixed in CF 5. Anyone have an idea on this? Error Diagnostic Information Error occurred while processing CFREPORT An unexpected error occurred while using the Crystal Engine. Error number 500 ocurred (Not enough memory for operation.). Crystal Library = C:\WINNT\system32\CRPE32.DLL (2/10/2001 1:43) DLL Version = 8.80, Engine Version = 8.80 The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFREPORT), occupying document position (9:1) to (9:59). Date/Time: 04/02/02 11:02:09 Browser: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0; T312461) Remote Address: 129.43.39.167 Alan L. Wolf MCSE, MCP, MCP + I SAIC Frederick PO Box B Bldg 458 Frederick, Maryland 21702 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 301-846-5479 (V) 301-846-6886 (F) __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
URL Var Passing Issue...Under the gun...again...!
Newbie Question.. I need to pass 2 URL Vars to pre fill an insert form. From the Detail Page; PreID and PreEM are form a display table that is generated from the same URL.PreID passed from a master page. a href=Ins_Blah.cfm?PreID=#URL.PreID##preEM#add Extra info/a The next Insert Form; Do I need to do an IsDefined() to get the passed VARs to pre fill 2 of the 3 fields? I need 2 to be filled and one to be blank for input. The need to be filled so the person can keep track of what he is doing. td cfoutput input type=text name=PreID Value=#URL.PreID#/cfoutput /td Any suggestions??? Thanks JON __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF_404_errors_shared_hosting
Sure this is possible. They need to configure different directories to use specific 404 handler files. I know you can do this with Apache and IIS. What web server are they running? -- Original Message -- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 20:40:04 + This is a shot in the dark ... Our company has a shared hosted site and we want to be able to control the error templates that are displayed when a user gets a 404 error for example. Our hosting company said they CAN'T help us, unless we migrate from a shared hosting to a co-located service. ugh! Does anyone know a CF way around this? I'm figuring the templates are below the CF level at the Web server, so I'm SOL. 8-) Thanks in advance. D- Get the award winning ISP, ATT WorldNet Service http://download.att.net/webtag __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFTREE no longer delivering form node values?
This thread's been resolved - turns out that Macromedia's applet doesn't work with anything later than JRE 1.3.01... -Original Message- From: Mario Martinez R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:56 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFTREE no longer delivering form node values? where is the code?? regards Mario --- Ian Lurie [EMAIL PROTECTED] escribió: Hi all, I've got a CFTREE that I've been using, literally, for 3 years without a hitch. Suddenly today, we started getting CF errors indicating that the form.cats.node value is no longer being passed. I've checked everything - the code is literally untouched since 2000. Could it be a special character issue or some such? Help... Ian Portent Interactive Helping clients build customer relationships on the web since 1995 Consulting, design, development, measurement http://www.portentinteractive.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
arraySum() for structures?
Does anyone know how I can get the sum of values from a structure? Example: cfscript myStruct = structnew(); myStruct.val1 = 1; myStruct.val2 = 3; myStruct.val3 = 2; /cfscript I want to quickly return the sum, 6, without having to loop over the keys and all that. Is it possible? Adam. __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Checks
We have been having a lot of companies want to send checks instead of the CC thing. Can someone point me in the direction of where to look about accepting checks online for payments. thanks __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Checks
Verisign's PayFlow offer's support for checks. http://www.verisign.com/products/payflow/pro/index.html -- Scott Van Vliet Senior Analyst SBC Services, Inc. ITO Enterprise Tools Office: 858.886.3878 Pager: 858.536.0070 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Michael Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:19 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Checks We have been having a lot of companies want to send checks instead of the CC thing. Can someone point me in the direction of where to look about accepting checks online for payments. thanks __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Test
Does anybody is receiving this email?? please send me back a reply. I can't see any post I do but I can see others. thanks Mario JT -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: detecting an image Jochem van Dieten wrote: Scott Mulholland wrote: Any way using CF to tell if an image exists, and show another image if it doesn't? I don't think FileExists is not an option as the images are on a remote machine. CFHTTP and check the length of the response? I would go for CFHTTP but for one of the customtag versions. not Jochem __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: best password encryption method
I'd say the best is to not even use encryption, but a hash (message digest) instead. Hash is sometimes called encryption, but it can't be decrypted. A hash (it's available as a CF function) is a one-way mathematical function. There is no decryption; only brute-force attack can tell you what a hashed value is. But the hash is predictable, it always gives the same output for the same input. So, hash the user's password and store THAT in the database. Then, when the user wants to login again, first hash the password the user's entered, then compare that with the hashed password stored in the database. Chris Norloff -- Original Message -- from: Mak Wing Lok [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 10:54:02 +0800 anyone can suggest what is the best method to encrypt password that stored in the database? --- Pharmaniaga Berhad, your integrated healthcare provider www.pharmaniaga.com.my www.ehealth4all.com, your most convenient way to healthcare, everyday... The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential or privileged material. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. --- __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Auto logout when leaving the application
What's the best way of handling security for a website that may be used in a kiosk mode? I'm working on a student grade system that does a one time validation and sets a session variable. Timeout is 15 minutes. John may log into the system using a lab computer to retrieve his student grades, become confused, wander to yahoo, read his mail, then leave the computer as is. Sue may come in to use the same machine, go to the grade application to get her grades, and still be logged in as John. Is there a good way to avoid this? I'm thinking about mangling the referer variable and zapping the session variables if the referer is not from the application. i.e. cfif left(CGI.HTTP_REFERER,X) is not http://www.gradesrus.com/; ... session.auth=0 That would solve the 'lost' client wandering out of the site. Leaving the site is equivalent to logging out then (more or less). What about a javascript warning when a person is going to leave the application? I'm not a javascript guru, but it seems like an onunload in the body should be able to give a popup alert and hopefully the ability to cancel the outside navigation. Anyone ever try it? Is there a better approach to this? Thanks! Brian __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: HELP!!! Date problems (RE-Post)
Nobody answered so I thought I would ask if someone has an answer?
Steven Lancaster
Barrios Technology
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-Original Message-
From: LANCASTER, STEVEN M. (JSC-OL) (BAR)
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 7:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: HELP!!! Date problems
I have a database with holiday dates in it. I have a date (duedate) and I
want to see if duedate has a holidaydate between now and duedate. I also
want to see if the duedate lands on a holiday. If there is a holiday then I
want to subract 1 day from duedate. Shouldn't this give me what I need?
CFLOOP QUERY=GetHolidaydate
CFIF ((DateCompare(DATEDUE,
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)#) IS 1) AND
(DateCompare(NEWDATE,
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)#) IS -1)) OR
(DateCompare(DATEDUE,
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)#) IS 0)
CFSET NEWDATE3 = #DateAdd('D', -1,
DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
CFIF DAY IS Sunday
CFSET DATEDUE =
#DateAdd('D', -2, DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
CFIF DAY IS Saturday
CFSET DATEDUE =
#DATEADD('D', -1, DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
!--- QUERY FOR A HOLIDAY COUNT ---
CFQUERY
DATASOURCE=#application.lldbDatasource# name=GetHolidayCount
select count(1) hlday_cnt
from ll_holiday
where
#CreateOdbcDate(holiday_date)# = #CreateODBCDate(DATEDUE)#
/CFQUERY
CFIF GetHolidayCount.hlday_cnt EQ
1
CFSET DATEDUE =
#DATEADD('D', -1, DATEDUE)#
/CFIF
/CFLOOP
Steven Lancaster
Barrios Technology
NASA/JSC
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Re: Test
Got it Gene Aiello Applications Systems Analyst/Programmer Underwriters Laboratories Inc. 333 Pfingsten Road Department 5140XGNK Northbrook, IL 60062-2096 Mario Martinez R. To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] fijc2001@yaho cc: o.com Subject: Test 04/03/02 10:29 AM Please respond to cf-talk Does anybody is receiving this email?? please send me back a reply. I can't see any post I do but I can see others. thanks Mario JT -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: detecting an image Jochem van Dieten wrote: Scott Mulholland wrote: Any way using CF to tell if an image exists, and show another image if it doesn't? I don't think FileExists is not an option as the images are on a remote machine. CFHTTP and check the length of the response? I would go for CFHTTP but for one of the customtag versions. not Jochem __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
ANN: New content in the Designer Developer Center
We are proud to announce a new set of articles, technotes and tutorials on Dreamweaver, UltraDev and other Macromedia products on our Designer Developer Center. Give it a look and see what you think. http://www.macromedia.com/desdev ColdFusion 5 Web Application Construction Kit: Databases and SQL By Ben Forta Logged In: Which server language should I use? By Matt Brown (Everyone read this one... I want to work out a per reader bonus LOL) JD's Forum: Where's the HTML in MX? By John Dowdell Tip of the Week: Connecting Macromedia Flash MX forms to ColdFusion By George Jardine Setting up a DSN in Windows By Macromedia staff Connecting to a database deployed on an ISP (ASP users only) By Charles Nadeau Troubleshooting data sources and database connectivity for Unix platforms By Macromedia staff Troubleshooting data sources and database connectivity for Windows platforms By Macromedia staff How are databases connections handled in ColdFusion? By Macromedia staff Filtering data easily with SQL and Dreamweaver UltraDev By Matthew David Displaying database data on a web page By Sue Hove Letter to our readers: Designer and Developer Center redesign By Macromedia staff Director 3D FAQ By Tom Higgins 3D sites created in Director By Miriam Geller Flash Super Samurai Chapter 2: 3D and Flash By Michael Brandon Williams and Torben Nielsen There are also tutorials on: Character animation for Shockwave3D By Mark McCoy Using JDBC connections By Macromedia staff Basics of Director 3D By Macromedia staff _ Matt Brown Community Manager Macromedia (650) 481-4525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
UDF or Custom Tag
does anyone have a UDF or Custom tag that will turn, http://www.yahoo.com into a href=http://www.yahoo.com;http://www.yahoo.com/a i would just build it myself but im swamped. thanks a million. -chris.alvarado [application.developer] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Auto logout when leaving the application
Good question. I am also interested in this response, but with an added element. What if a user closes the browser, how do you kill client/session variables, presumably someone could close the browser thinking they are logged out, the next person wanders up and sees the first persons information. CC Brian Fox brianfoxTo: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] @sdccd.cc.ca.cc: us Subject: Auto logout when leaving the application 04/03/02 10:30 AM Please respond to cf-talk What's the best way of handling security for a website that may be used in a kiosk mode? I'm working on a student grade system that does a one time validation and sets a session variable. Timeout is 15 minutes. John may log into the system using a lab computer to retrieve his student grades, become confused, wander to yahoo, read his mail, then leave the computer as is. Sue may come in to use the same machine, go to the grade application to get her grades, and still be logged in as John. Is there a good way to avoid this? I'm thinking about mangling the referer variable and zapping the session variables if the referer is not from the application. i.e. cfif left(CGI.HTTP_REFERER,X) is not http://www.gradesrus.com/; ... session.auth=0 That would solve the 'lost' client wandering out of the site. Leaving the site is equivalent to logging out then (more or less). What about a javascript warning when a person is going to leave the application? I'm not a javascript guru, but it seems like an onunload in the body should be able to give a popup alert and hopefully the ability to cancel the outside navigation. Anyone ever try it? Is there a better approach to this? Thanks! Brian __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Auto logout when leaving the application
I am working on a custom tag that will solve this, and will post it when I finish. -- Scott Van Vliet Senior Analyst SBC Services, Inc. ITO Enterprise Tools Office: 858.886.3878 Pager: 858.536.0070 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Auto logout when leaving the application Good question. I am also interested in this response, but with an added element. What if a user closes the browser, how do you kill client/session variables, presumably someone could close the browser thinking they are logged out, the next person wanders up and sees the first persons information. CC Brian Fox brianfoxTo: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] @sdccd.cc.ca.cc: us Subject: Auto logout when leaving the application 04/03/02 10:30 AM Please respond to cf-talk What's the best way of handling security for a website that may be used in a kiosk mode? I'm working on a student grade system that does a one time validation and sets a session variable. Timeout is 15 minutes. John may log into the system using a lab computer to retrieve his student grades, become confused, wander to yahoo, read his mail, then leave the computer as is. Sue may come in to use the same machine, go to the grade application to get her grades, and still be logged in as John. Is there a good way to avoid this? I'm thinking about mangling the referer variable and zapping the session variables if the referer is not from the application. i.e. cfif left(CGI.HTTP_REFERER,X) is not http://www.gradesrus.com/; ... session.auth=0 That would solve the 'lost' client wandering out of the site. Leaving the site is equivalent to logging out then (more or less). What about a javascript warning when a person is going to leave the application? I'm not a javascript guru, but it seems like an onunload in the body should be able to give a popup alert and hopefully the ability to cancel the outside navigation. Anyone ever try it? Is there a better approach to this? Thanks! Brian __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Test2
Ok the first Test worked!!.I'm happy. This is the last test!!. Does anybody is receving this question I 'm writing down here. regards Mario Hi friends: I'm trying to log into a site remotely using CFHTTP. The login.asp redirect me to the home page if everything is OK. The problem is that the internal URL in the asp code seems to be relative. and I'm getting back a 302 code. Is there any parameter that I can pass in the CFHTTP to overcome this problem??. I'm posting down here the coldfusion code and what I'm getting in the browser. Thanks in advance friend. /*Coldfusion Code*/ cfhttp RESOLVEURL=Yes REFERER=http://admin.elementk.com/Login/login.asp; REDIRECT=No USERAGENT=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1; Q312461) METHOD=POST URL=http://admin.elementk.com/Login/login.asp; cfhttpparam NAME=f_strUserName TYPE=FormField VALUE=#myusername# cfhttpparam NAME=f_strPassword TYPE=FormField VALUE=#mypassword# cfhttpparam NAME=f_flgProcess TYPE=FormField VALUE=1 cfhttpparam NAME=Login TYPE=FormField VALUE=1 /cfhttp /*What I see in the browser*/ !--- This example is to test the login --- Connection Failure The mime-type: text/html The Status Code: 302 Moved Temporarily The Raw Header: HTTP/1.1 302 Object moved Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:49:15 GMT Location: /Home/home.asp Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Length: 135 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ZDUSMSK=%14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW%5B%5F%12; path=/ Cache-control: private Output the Response Headers: CACHE-CONTROL : private CONNECTION : Keep-Alive CONTENT-LENGTH : 135 CONTENT-TYPE : text/html DATE : Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:49:15 GMT EXPLANATION : Object HTTP_VERSION : HTTP/1.1 LOCATION : /Home/home.asp SERVER : Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Cookie : %14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW%5B%5F%12 SET-COOKIE : ZDUSMSK=%14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW%5B%5F%12; path=/ STATUS_CODE : 302 _ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UDF or Custom Tag
I'm assuming you want to scan a body of text for URLs? If so, search on the Devex for a custom tag by Joel Mueller. I can't remember the name, but you should be able to search by author name. His custom tag worked _very_ well, and would also change stuff like [EMAIL PROTECTED] to a href=mailto:;etc. === Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: chris.alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:45 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: UDF or Custom Tag does anyone have a UDF or Custom tag that will turn, http://www.yahoo.com into a href=http://www.yahoo.com;http://www.yahoo.com/a i would just build it myself but im swamped. thanks a million. -chris.alvarado [application.developer] 4 Guys Interactive, Inc. __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: UDF or Custom Tag
CFSCRIPT
function CreateHTMLLink(textin) {
textout = a href=' textin ' textin /a;
return textout;
}
/CFSCRIPT
CFOUTPUT
#CreateHTMLLink(http://www.yahoo.com;)#
/CFOUTPUT
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-Original Message-
From: chris.alvarado [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: UDF or Custom Tag
does anyone have a UDF or Custom tag that will turn,
http://www.yahoo.com into a
href=http://www.yahoo.com;http://www.yahoo.com/a
i would just build it myself but im swamped.
thanks a million.
-chris.alvarado
[application.developer]
4 Guys Interactive, Inc.
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RE: Test2
yes -Original Message- From: Mario Martinez R. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:50 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Test2 Ok the first Test worked!!.I'm happy. This is the last test!!. Does anybody is receving this question I 'm writing down here. regards Mario Hi friends: I'm trying to log into a site remotely using CFHTTP. The login.asp redirect me to the home page if everything is OK. The problem is that the internal URL in the asp code seems to be relative. and I'm getting back a 302 code. Is there any parameter that I can pass in the CFHTTP to overcome this problem??. I'm posting down here the coldfusion code and what I'm getting in the browser. Thanks in advance friend. /*Coldfusion Code*/ cfhttp RESOLVEURL=Yes REFERER=http://admin.elementk.com/Login/login.asp; REDIRECT=No USERAGENT=Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0 Windows NT 5.1; Q312461) METHOD=POST URL=http://admin.elementk.com/Login/login.asp; cfhttpparam NAME=f_strUserName TYPE=FormField VALUE=#myusername# cfhttpparam NAME=f_strPassword TYPE=FormField VALUE=#mypassword# cfhttpparam NAME=f_flgProcess TYPE=FormField VALUE=1 cfhttpparam NAME=Login TYPE=FormField VALUE=1 /cfhttp /*What I see in the browser*/ !--- This example is to test the login --- Connection Failure The mime-type: text/html The Status Code: 302 Moved Temporarily The Raw Header: HTTP/1.1 302 Object moved Server: Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:49:15 GMT Location: /Home/home.asp Connection: Keep-Alive Content-Length: 135 Content-Type: text/html Set-Cookie: ZDUSMSK=%14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW% 5B%5F%12; path=/ Cache-control: private Output the Response Headers: CACHE-CONTROL : private CONNECTION : Keep-Alive CONTENT-LENGTH : 135 CONTENT-TYPE : text/html DATE : Tue, 02 Apr 2002 21:49:15 GMT EXPLANATION : Object HTTP_VERSION : HTTP/1.1 LOCATION : /Home/home.asp SERVER : Microsoft-IIS/4.0 Cookie : %14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW%5B%5F%12 SET-COOKIE : ZDUSMSK=%14W%2D%2C%2B%2E%2C%5DZB%5BYZVB%5E%5E%2BYB%2DYYVB%5F%5FZ%5FW%2DVZZW% 5B%5F%12; path=/ STATUS_CODE : 302 _ Do You Yahoo!? Información de Estados Unidos y América Latina, en Yahoo! Noticias. Visítanos en http://noticias.espanol.yahoo.com __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: arraySum() for structures?
Does anyone know how I can get the sum of values from a structure? Example: cfscript myStruct = structnew(); myStruct.val1 = 1; myStruct.val2 = 3; myStruct.val3 = 2; /cfscript I want to quickly return the sum, 6, without having to loop over the keys and all that. Is it possible? Nope, the Array functions like Sum and Sort only work on single dimensional arrays with simple values in them, so you're going to have to loop over them - there aren't any Struct functions similar Philip Arnold Technical Director Certified ColdFusion Developer ASP Multimedia Limited T: +44 (0)20 8680 1133 F: +44 (0)20 8686 7911 An ISO9001 registered company. ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. ** __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Error when submitting form to DB
Thanks for the feedback. Actually, I was exceeding the 8K *row* limitation, of which I had been unaware. Thanks, Jamie On Wed, 3 Apr 2002 04:30:04 +0700, in cf-talk you wrote: I've got an online form that updates a MSSQL 2000 record. When I send more than 3500 characters, I get the error: nvarchar == 2bytes per char. 4k nvarchar chars = 2k chars. so yes you've exceeded the column size. don't use N datatypes unless you need to, --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.342 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Checks
We have a very simple to use and implement custom tag that works through CDG Commerce and EFT, (right now we have free setup $295.00 value). http://www.quilldesign.com/cdg/index.cfm Check it out and let me know if you have any questions Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder - Original Message - From: Michael Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:19 AM Subject: Checks We have been having a lot of companies want to send checks instead of the CC thing. Can someone point me in the direction of where to look about accepting checks online for payments. thanks __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: detecting an image
You could write a javascript function that changes the image source. You can call the function with the onError event handler of the img tag. example: img src=image.gif onError=changeImage() Owen Munton --- Scott Mulholland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not in my case though, the images are on a remote server :) -Original Message- From: Jim Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 4:20 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: detecting an image This Should Do it cfif FileExists(images.gif) IMG SRC=image.gif WIDTH=18 HEIGHT=20 cfelse IMG SRC=Otherimage.gif WIDTH=18 HEIGHT=20 /cfif JT -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 12:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: detecting an image Jochem van Dieten wrote: Scott Mulholland wrote: Any way using CF to tell if an image exists, and show another image if it doesn't? I don't think FileExists is not an option as the images are on a remote machine. CFHTTP and check the length of the response? I would go for CFHTTP but for one of the customtag versions. not Jochem __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Auto logout when leaving the application
I believe I got this a while back from hal helms website. cfif IsDefined(Cookie.CFID) AND IsDefined(Cookie.CFTOKEN) cfset cfid_local = Cookie.CFID cfset cftoken_local = Cookie.CFTOKEN cfcookie name=CFID value=#cfid_local# cfcookie name=CFTOKEN value=#cftoken_local# /cfif this kills the client/session variables when the browser closes because it has taken the cookies set by the cfapplication and resets them to expire when the browser closes. Shawn Regan Applications Developer Pacific Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: VAN VLIET, SCOTT E (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Auto logout when leaving the application I am working on a custom tag that will solve this, and will post it when I finish. -- Scott Van Vliet Senior Analyst SBC Services, Inc. ITO Enterprise Tools Office: 858.886.3878 Pager: 858.536.0070 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Auto logout when leaving the application Good question. I am also interested in this response, but with an added element. What if a user closes the browser, how do you kill client/session variables, presumably someone could close the browser thinking they are logged out, the next person wanders up and sees the first persons information. CC Brian Fox brianfoxTo: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] @sdccd.cc.ca.cc: us Subject: Auto logout when leaving the application 04/03/02 10:30 AM Please respond to cf-talk What's the best way of handling security for a website that may be used in a kiosk mode? I'm working on a student grade system that does a one time validation and sets a session variable. Timeout is 15 minutes. John may log into the system using a lab computer to retrieve his student grades, become confused, wander to yahoo, read his mail, then leave the computer as is. Sue may come in to use the same machine, go to the grade application to get her grades, and still be logged in as John. Is there a good way to avoid this? I'm thinking about mangling the referer variable and zapping the session variables if the referer is not from the application. i.e. cfif left(CGI.HTTP_REFERER,X) is not http://www.gradesrus.com/; ... session.auth=0 That would solve the 'lost' client wandering out of the site. Leaving the site is equivalent to logging out then (more or less). What about a javascript warning when a person is going to leave the application? I'm not a javascript guru, but it seems like an onunload in the body should be able to give a popup alert and hopefully the ability to cancel the outside navigation. Anyone ever try it? Is there a better approach to this? Thanks! Brian __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Client Variable Database Storage
Howdy, I finally have an opportunity to get my feet wet using client variables and have some questions. I have a Forums app (fbOpenForums) running fine locally, but have a question about the database storage part. Reading thru the WROX book Professional ColdFusion 5 last night, the author states (on page 386): There is only one requirement for the client variables database: it must be empty. Create a blank database and call it ClientVariables. It is absolutely imperative that you do not create any tables or objects within this database. ColdFusion will enter the required tables once we are done configuring ColdFusion Administrator to use our new data source. So, before I read this, I had already created the client variables storage tables, using CF Administrator, in an existing database where my Forums app will be integrated with another site. It seems to be working fine. Can anyone explain why the client variables need to be stored in a separate data source and not combined with a pre-existing data source? Also, when I'm ready to go live with the production version on my site, this will be hosted with a 3rd party hosting company. How do they handle the issue of having a separate data source for storing client variables? Anyone know about that? TIA, Chris Montgomery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtight Web Services Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales Macromedia Sales Consulting Partner 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CF VS ASP
OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
How could I improve this code?
Apologies for posting a big chunk of code. This is a simple multiple-choice quiz that gets generated from a tab-delimited text file as noted below. It works, but as a novice CF programmer, I was wondering how it might be improved. Thanks, Trey !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN html head titleUntitled/title /head body !--- FileName: SimpleQuiz Version:1.0 Created by: Trey Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Created on: 3-April-2002 Notes: This file reads a tab-delimited text file to create a simple multiple choice quiz. The text file should be in the format (w/o quotes) answer1 [tab]answer2 [tab]answer3 [tab]correctanswer [tab]question where correctanswer is the position of the correct answer in the list (eg 1, 2 or 3). The form submits to itself. In order to modify this form for reuse, change the value for QuizData and change the filename that the form is submitting to as appropriate. --- !--- If form has not been submitted, display it --- cfif NOT isdefined(form.fieldnames) !--- Set name of data file --- cfset QuizData = C:\inetpub\wwwroot\quiz.txt !--- Initialize new values --- cfset LineNumber = 0 cfset ItemNumber = 1 cfset QuizArray = ArrayNew(2) !--- Read tab-delimited data file --- cffile action=read file=#QuizData# variable=AllLines !--- Loop over individual lines --- cfloop list=#AllLines# delimiters=#chr(13)# index=SingleLine !--- Initialize LineNumber, which counts lines --- cfset LineNumber = LineNumber + 1 !--- The number of answers should be the number of items minus two (the correct answer and the question) --- !--- Assume that all questions have the same number of answers --- cfset NumberOfItems = (#ListLen(SingleLine,#chr(9)#)#) cfset NumberOfAnswers = (NumberOfItems - 2) !--- Loop over individual items within the line --- cfloop list=#SingleLine# delimiters=#chr(9)# index=Item !--- Add items to the array. The first values should be answers, then the correct answer, then the question --- cfset QuizArray [#LineNumber#][#ItemNumber#] = #Item# cfset ItemNumber = ItemNumber + 1 /cfloop !--- Reset ItemNumber so that reading the next line into the array starts at position one --- cfset ItemNumber = 1 /cfloop !--- The value of LineNumber should now be the total number of lines, assuming that there are no blank lines --- cfset NumberOfQuestions = LineNumber !--- Begin form. It will post to this page, which should be defined by Self --- cfform name=Quiz action=thisfile.cfm method=post !--- Display the quiz. The question will always be the last item in a line from the data file --- cfloop from=1 to=#NumberOfQuestions# index=QuestionIndex !--- Display question --- cfoutputp#QuizArray[QuestionIndex][NumberOfItems]#br/cfoutput !--- Display answers --- cfloop from=1 to=#NumberOfAnswers# index=ItemIndex cfoutputcfinput type=radio value=#ItemIndex# name=Ans#QuestionIndex# required=Yes message=You must complete the entire quiz. Please check your work and try again.#QuizArray[QuestionIndex][ItemIndex]#br/cfoutput /cfloop /cfloop p/p input type=submit value=Send input type=reset value=Clear /cfform !--- If form has been submitted, process it --- cfelse !--- Normally, check to see if form fields are defined. In this case, validation occurs at the form --- !--- Might want to reassign form field values to local variables --- !--- This next bit is the same as above. Using session or url scope would obviate recreating the array. Future project --- cfset QuizData = C:\inetpub\wwwroot\quiz.txt !--- Initialize new values --- cfset LineNumber = 0 cfset ItemNumber = 1 cfset QuizArray = ArrayNew(2) !--- Read tab-delimited data file again --- cffile action=read file=#QuizData# variable=AllLines !--- Loop over individual lines --- cfloop list=#AllLines# delimiters=#chr(13)# index=SingleLine !--- Initialize LineNumber, which counts lines --- cfset LineNumber = LineNumber + 1 !--- The number of answers should be the number of items minus two (the correct answer and the question) --- !--- Assume that all questions have the same number of answers --- cfset NumberOfItems = (#ListLen(SingleLine,#chr(9)#)#)
RE: Auto logout when leaving the application
I am building a JS tool that will automate this process. I will post it.. -- Scott Van Vliet Senior Analyst SBC Services, Inc. ITO Enterprise Tools Office: 858.886.3878 Pager: 858.536.0070 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Shawn Regan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:20 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Auto logout when leaving the application I believe I got this a while back from hal helms website. cfif IsDefined(Cookie.CFID) AND IsDefined(Cookie.CFTOKEN) cfset cfid_local = Cookie.CFID cfset cftoken_local = Cookie.CFTOKEN cfcookie name=CFID value=#cfid_local# cfcookie name=CFTOKEN value=#cftoken_local# /cfif this kills the client/session variables when the browser closes because it has taken the cookies set by the cfapplication and resets them to expire when the browser closes. Shawn Regan Applications Developer Pacific Technology Solutions -Original Message- From: VAN VLIET, SCOTT E (SBCSI) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Auto logout when leaving the application I am working on a custom tag that will solve this, and will post it when I finish. -- Scott Van Vliet Senior Analyst SBC Services, Inc. ITO Enterprise Tools Office: 858.886.3878 Pager: 858.536.0070 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 8:41 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Auto logout when leaving the application Good question. I am also interested in this response, but with an added element. What if a user closes the browser, how do you kill client/session variables, presumably someone could close the browser thinking they are logged out, the next person wanders up and sees the first persons information. CC Brian Fox brianfoxTo: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] @sdccd.cc.ca.cc: us Subject: Auto logout when leaving the application 04/03/02 10:30 AM Please respond to cf-talk What's the best way of handling security for a website that may be used in a kiosk mode? I'm working on a student grade system that does a one time validation and sets a session variable. Timeout is 15 minutes. John may log into the system using a lab computer to retrieve his student grades, become confused, wander to yahoo, read his mail, then leave the computer as is. Sue may come in to use the same machine, go to the grade application to get her grades, and still be logged in as John. Is there a good way to avoid this? I'm thinking about mangling the referer variable and zapping the session variables if the referer is not from the application. i.e. cfif left(CGI.HTTP_REFERER,X) is not http://www.gradesrus.com/; ... session.auth=0 That would solve the 'lost' client wandering out of the site. Leaving the site is equivalent to logging out then (more or less). What about a javascript warning when a person is going to leave the application? I'm not a javascript guru, but it seems like an onunload in the body should be able to give a popup alert and hopefully the ability to cancel the outside navigation. Anyone ever try it? Is there a better approach to this? Thanks! Brian __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP
http://www.houseoffusion.com/hof/body/asp.cfm http://www.swynk.com/friends/murphy/ironic_isnt_it.asp -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF VS ASP
I don't have an exact answer, but there are some good things if you do the following: Go to Google.com search for asp vs. cold fusion and then reverse it cold fusion vs. asp and you will find various articles and message threads. Hope this helps Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Content Management Server
Hello All, I was wondering if anyone had any info/feedback on MS Content Management Server 2001. We are currently scrapping our current in house CF app and seeking new products. I viewed the demo and I like what I've seen so far. We're also creating our order entry system in CF so I don't want this to be the kiss of death on that and then rebuild the order entry system in ASP. Hope someone has some advice! Thanks! Will __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
actually let me take the first crack at this. if noone minds Can you say ADO Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF VS ASP
Well we will all tell you here that CF blows ASP out of the water ;-) That said I beleive there is a comparison on Ben Forta's site at www.forta.com or mabye it was House of Fusion at www.houseoffusion.com Anyway, I know one of the gurus out there has the comparisonand by the time I send this 50 other people will reply with links ;-) ASP may have it's place (perhaps under the bed with all the other crap you throw there)...but CF wins IMHO HTH Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:02 AM Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP
I heard ASP has bigger balls than CF, but CF has a bigger penis (sorry if that's vulgar, I was bored) Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:10 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP I don't have an exact answer, but there are some good things if you do the following: Go to Google.com search for asp vs. cold fusion and then reverse it cold fusion vs. asp and you will find various articles and message threads. Hope this helps Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP
Thanks Sam, I have already taken a look at the swynk.com URL but it is a little outdated as it refers to ASP 2.0 Rob -Original Message- From: Sam Roach [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:07 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP http://www.houseoffusion.com/hof/body/asp.cfm http://www.swynk.com/friends/murphy/ironic_isnt_it.asp -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Client Variable Database Storage
it doesn't have to be stored in its own database. i enable my databases all the time for client variable storage just because i don't want two databases for one app. the only reason i can think of an argument for this is performance. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Chris Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:44 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Client Variable Database Storage Howdy, I finally have an opportunity to get my feet wet using client variables and have some questions. I have a Forums app (fbOpenForums) running fine locally, but have a question about the database storage part. Reading thru the WROX book Professional ColdFusion 5 last night, the author states (on page 386): There is only one requirement for the client variables database: it must be empty. Create a blank database and call it ClientVariables. It is absolutely imperative that you do not create any tables or objects within this database. ColdFusion will enter the required tables once we are done configuring ColdFusion Administrator to use our new data source. So, before I read this, I had already created the client variables storage tables, using CF Administrator, in an existing database where my Forums app will be integrated with another site. It seems to be working fine. Can anyone explain why the client variables need to be stored in a separate data source and not combined with a pre-existing data source? Also, when I'm ready to go live with the production version on my site, this will be hosted with a 3rd party hosting company. How do they handle the issue of having a separate data source for storing client variables? Anyone know about that? TIA, Chris Montgomery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtight Web Services Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales Macromedia Sales Consulting Partner 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that, we use PHP here as well, my opinion of PHP is worse then ASP, not very fond of it at all, but that is my opinion. Anything is better then PERL anyways, heh I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Client Variable Database Storage
Chris, You can put your client vars in any dsn you like, so long as you specify that dsn as a client var repository in the CF Administrator. If you've already created your tables, just leave the ''create tables'' choice unchecked when you do the above. This lets you specify multiple client var datasources, one for each client assuming each client has its own dsn. You may or may not want to do that. I used to but mostly don't anymore, preferring instead to keeping those w/generic needs in a server-wide db. I have some clients whose expirations differ from the norm, so I break them out into their own db's. I'm not sure this is something you can really manage with a shared host. You'll have to ask them directly if they can set you up. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com -Original Message- From: Chris Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 9:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Client Variable Database Storage Howdy, I finally have an opportunity to get my feet wet using client variables and have some questions. I have a Forums app (fbOpenForums) running fine locally, but have a question about the database storage part. Reading thru the WROX book Professional ColdFusion 5 last night, the author states (on page 386): There is only one requirement for the client variables database: it must be empty. Create a blank database and call it ClientVariables. It is absolutely imperative that you do not create any tables or objects within this database. ColdFusion will enter the required tables once we are done configuring ColdFusion Administrator to use our new data source. So, before I read this, I had already created the client variables storage tables, using CF Administrator, in an existing database where my Forums app will be integrated with another site. It seems to be working fine. Can anyone explain why the client variables need to be stored in a separate data source and not combined with a pre-existing data source? Also, when I'm ready to go live with the production version on my site, this will be hosted with a 3rd party hosting company. How do they handle the issue of having a separate data source for storing client variables? Anyone know about that? TIA, Chris Montgomery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtight Web Services Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales Macromedia Sales Consulting Partner 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
And you would think that Allaire/Macromedia would have something of the sort posted on their website, but I could not find anything there Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yeah, I have had the chance to play with Neo, very impressed, and I thought that CF5 was a big step from 4, amazing Rob -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Well there is this article by eweek that is probably the most recent comparison you are going to get. CF 4.5.1, ASP 5.0 PHP 4, Tomcat 3.2, And they give CF the nod. While still saying different tools for different jobs, might make sense. So we can only conjecture that they would have given CF 5.0 higher marks, since it has better performace. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Forgot the link: http://techupdate.zdnet.com/techupdate/stories/main/0,14179,2646052,00.html -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 12:14 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
multiple file uploads
any comments or suggestions for multiple file upload widgets? anybody using activeFile? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.342 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002 __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF even though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but I think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he should really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always pick the best product. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
multiple file uploads
any comments or suggestions for multiple file upload widgets? anybody using xxxactiveFile its late, i actually meant appletFile. thanks --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.342 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002 __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Gasp, sputter, cough. Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever! Nothing is better than perl. My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl (and real regex) within CF templates. And a good implementation of modperl within the CF Server. CFSCRIPT language=perl -- don't I wish! /CFSCRIPT Dreams I'll Never See - (can you name that band?) Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:29PM Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that, we use PHP here as well, my opinion of PHP is worse then ASP, not very fond of it at all, but that is my opinion. Anything is better then PERL anyways, heh I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: multiple file uploads
Not using appletFile, but have used cf_fileupload it does a very nice job of handling multiple files .. you can find it in the tag gallery at Macromedia. Paul Giesenhagen QuillDesign http://www.quilldesign.com SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder any comments or suggestions for multiple file upload widgets? anybody using xxxactiveFile its late, i actually meant appletFile. thanks --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.342 / Virus Database: 189 - Release Date: 3/14/2002 __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
here is an article from pcmagazine comparing a slew of web applications servers/languages... http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s=1611a=3125,00.asp The real question for me would be WHY ON EARTH would your current employer switch to ASP if you don't have any experience with it and they are currently using CF. Have they not seen the NEO faq? Or is this one of those mandate thingys? -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As one of them, I can tell you that life does not have to be that hard. Does he have specific ASP is better arguments? At our MMUG meeting yesterday, there was an ASP'er who was seeing how to connect to a database in CF for the first time. I talked to him afterward and he said that we kept asking himself where's the rest of the code? until he figured out that there wasn't any... Regards, Neil -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF even though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but I think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he should really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always pick the best product. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
The new PERL sounds promising, and I would agree that it would be great to use modperl within CF, I started as a PERL developer. But if I had a choice to develop a program in CF or PERL, I would pick CF But that is my opinion, which only matters when I am home alone Rob -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Gasp, sputter, cough. Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever! Nothing is better than perl. My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl (and real regex) within CF templates. And a good implementation of modperl within the CF Server. CFSCRIPT language=perl -- don't I wish! /CFSCRIPT Dreams I'll Never See - (can you name that band?) Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:29PM Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that, we use PHP here as well, my opinion of PHP is worse then ASP, not very fond of it at all, but that is my opinion. Anything is better then PERL anyways, heh I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: URL Var Passing Issue...Under the gun...again...!
Hi Jon, I'm not sure that I completely understand your problem, but I'll take a stab at it anyway ;-) You should use the isdefined() function to make sure that the values/variables exist. If they don't, then use cflocation to send them to the page where they should initially be defined. To continuously pass the form params through your series of pages, you could do it through url vars or through hidden form fields. Using hidden form fields will prevent the user from tampering with the data, which is what I prefer. Another method would be to use session or client vars. Also, make sure you always scope your variables: #url.myvariable#, #variables.myvariable# and so on... HTH!!! - Gary -Original Message- From: CF_JONNY [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:58 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: URL Var Passing Issue...Under the gun...again...! Newbie Question.. I need to pass 2 URL Vars to pre fill an insert form. From the Detail Page; PreID and PreEM are form a display table that is generated from the same URL.PreID passed from a master page. a href=Ins_Blah.cfm?PreID=#URL.PreID##preEM#add Extra info/a The next Insert Form; Do I need to do an IsDefined() to get the passed VARs to pre fill 2 of the 3 fields? I need 2 to be filled and one to be blank for input. The need to be filled so the person can keep track of what he is doing. td cfoutput input type=text name=PreID Value=#URL.PreID#/cfoutput /td Any suggestions??? Thanks JON __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Have you pointed out the rapid development nature of CF? Talk their talk...faster development translates to lower development/maintenance costs. Talk like that usually grabs the suits attention ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF even though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but I think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he should really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always pick the best product. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Here is a good URL that I came across: http://hotwired.lycos.com/webmonkey/99/46/index1a.html?tw=programming -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Gasp, sputter, cough. Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever! Nothing is better than perl. My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl (and real regex) within CF templates. And a good implementation of modperl within the CF Server. CFSCRIPT language=perl -- don't I wish! /CFSCRIPT Dreams I'll Never See - (can you name that band?) Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:29PM Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that, we use PHP here as well, my opinion of PHP is worse then ASP, not very fond of it at all, but that is my opinion. Anything is better then PERL anyways, heh I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Honestly, If he's willing to pay you to cross train in ASP, why complain? I'm assuming that you have already written a score of reports and tools that will all need to be translated into ASP and who would know the reports better than their author. ASP isn't that different from Cold Fusion. Cold Fusion takes care of quite a few loose ends and takes far less time to produce quick apps. So, if your new boss is dead-set on using ASP pick up a few kill weight manuals on ASP coding and rewrite one of your tools. Remeber, coders survive on being able to code. Managers survive on making good business decisions. You may well see a new manager in the not so distant future. Good Fortune, Richard Walters, Webmaster, Davita Laboratory Services [EMAIL PROTECTED] (800) 604-5227 x 3525 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:36PM But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF even though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but I think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he should really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always pick the best product. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Client Variable Database Storage
Matt and Tony, Thanks for the quick response. Your messages confirmed some of my assumptions. Here's what my hosting company support had to say about it: Hi Chris, we create a DSN for each individual client who wants CV storage. You could use either an AccessDB or an MSSQL db for this. It is probably best to have an empty one, as the CF Administrator will create the tables necessary. As you already have a DSN associated with this account an additional one would incur a $5/month charge. You could avoid this charge by using your current database for CV storage, as the table names that are created are fairly unique. However, do this at your own risk. Please let us know if you have any further questions. I think I will be able to work with just having them configure my already existing datasource to store client vars. It's for a fairly small site and I don't really expect lots of traffic. Thanks again. Chris Montgomery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtight Web Services Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales Macromedia Sales Consulting Partner 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client Variable Database Storage Chris, You can put your client vars in any dsn you like, so long as you specify that dsn as a client var repository in the CF Administrator. If you've already created your tables, just leave the ''create tables'' choice unchecked when you do the above. This lets you specify multiple client var datasources, one for each client assuming each client has its own dsn. You may or may not want to do that. I used to but mostly don't anymore, preferring instead to keeping those w/generic needs in a server-wide db. I have some clients whose expirations differ from the norm, so I break them out into their own db's. I'm not sure this is something you can really manage with a shared host. You'll have to ask them directly if they can set you up. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Alright, I will join the discussion here as well, except I will come at it from the standpoint of CFMX/Neo and ASP.NET. However, many of the same arguments are still valid from CF5 and ASP 3.0, such as multiple platform support for ColdFusion. I love the ColdFusion Component concept in CFMX, and the ability to call them as web services. ASP.NET has made HUGE strides over traditional ASP, especially in the management of DLL's (this is actually a benefit of the .NET Framework, not ASP.NET). Also, ADO.NET is greatly improved over traditional ADO. Lastly, with .NET, you have a suite of languages that can all talk to each other, pass data back and forth very easily, etc. However, ColdFusion still has more built-in functionality that I like. Its still easier, still faster to develop on, and CFMX is even faster than CF5. So which to go with? To me, it is still dependent on the application(s) you are developing, your web/app servers that you intend to run them on, and cost (including software purchase AND development time). If you are already a CF shop with little or no ASP background, stay with CF. I guarantee you that CFMX is worth the wait! Cheers, --Paul Paul W. Wille [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer --- ISITE Design, Inc. -- Solutions Architect www.isitedesign.com 615 SW Broadway, Suite 200 Portland, OR 97205 503.221.9860 x110 503.221.9865 -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that, we use PHP here as well, my opinion of PHP is worse then ASP, not very fond of it at all, but that is my opinion. Anything is better then PERL anyways, heh I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Oh, well sure. Change the argument to doing something useful, like a develop a program, and maybe I'd choose CF. I suppose you want some user interface or data connectivity as well? What ever happended to stdout as an interface? Harumph! Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:45PM The new PERL sounds promising, and I would agree that it would be great to use modperl within CF, I started as a PERL developer. But if I had a choice to develop a program in CF or PERL, I would pick CF But that is my opinion, which only matters when I am home alone Rob -Original Message- From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:46 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Gasp, sputter, cough. Blasphemy! Heretic! Unbeliever! Nothing is better than perl. My fondest dream would be to be able to write perl (and real regex) within CF templates. And a good implementation of modperl within the CF Server. CFSCRIPT language=perl -- don't I wish! /CFSCRIPT Dreams I'll Never See - (can you name that band?) Jerry Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/03/02 02:29PM Yeah, for sure, maybe some people need to get together and create that, we use PHP here as well, my opinion of PHP is worse then ASP, not very fond of it at all, but that is my opinion. Anything is better then PERL anyways, heh I think CF5 blows ASP out of the water, like comparing an old Married with Children type of Dodge to a Corvette Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being The only problem you have is that you are going to find alot of information comparing CF4.0 and ASP/IIS3.0. i would love to see a comparison between CF5.0, ASP/IIS5.0, and PHP4. Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
LOL...I love doing that to ASPersSOOoOOoo much fun...deer in headlights all the way ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Neil Giarratana [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As one of them, I can tell you that life does not have to be that hard. Does he have specific ASP is better arguments? At our MMUG meeting yesterday, there was an ASP'er who was seeing how to connect to a database in CF for the first time. I talked to him afterward and he said that we kept asking himself where's the rest of the code? until he figured out that there wasn't any... Regards, Neil -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF even though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but I think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he should really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always pick the best product. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Question on parametising the variables that are generated on the fly?
Hi, I am building the variables like this way. CFSET variables.calendarenddate = 'CALENDARENDDATE_' attributes.SUBSCRIPTIONID the variable generated would look like this: CALENDARENDDATE_12 Actually a variable of this is coming from the previous screen. I wanted to see whether that variable is null or not. When I am using: CFIF evaluate(variables.calendarenddate) IS NOT '' It is giving an error: saying that error in that variable. I could figure out how to use cfparam that variable to give a default value. I hope I am clear in asking question. thanks in advance. Sudheer Chakka. __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Client Variable Database Storage
If you don't expect a lot of traffic, just use session variables. I only use client variables on sites that will either have a lot of traffic, or ones that I would like to move one day to a clustered enviroment. Use session variables (with locking), it will make your life easier. Robert Everland III Dixon Ticonderoga Web Developer Extraordinaire -Original Message- From: Chris Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client Variable Database Storage Matt and Tony, Thanks for the quick response. Your messages confirmed some of my assumptions. Here's what my hosting company support had to say about it: Hi Chris, we create a DSN for each individual client who wants CV storage. You could use either an AccessDB or an MSSQL db for this. It is probably best to have an empty one, as the CF Administrator will create the tables necessary. As you already have a DSN associated with this account an additional one would incur a $5/month charge. You could avoid this charge by using your current database for CV storage, as the table names that are created are fairly unique. However, do this at your own risk. Please let us know if you have any further questions. I think I will be able to work with just having them configure my already existing datasource to store client vars. It's for a fairly small site and I don't really expect lots of traffic. Thanks again. Chris Montgomery[EMAIL PROTECTED] Airtight Web Services Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales Macromedia Sales Consulting Partner 210-490-3249/888-745-7603 -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Client Variable Database Storage Chris, You can put your client vars in any dsn you like, so long as you specify that dsn as a client var repository in the CF Administrator. If you've already created your tables, just leave the ''create tables'' choice unchecked when you do the above. This lets you specify multiple client var datasources, one for each client assuming each client has its own dsn. You may or may not want to do that. I used to but mostly don't anymore, preferring instead to keeping those w/generic needs in a server-wide db. I have some clients whose expirations differ from the norm, so I break them out into their own db's. I'm not sure this is something you can really manage with a shared host. You'll have to ask them directly if they can set you up. --Matt Robertson-- MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: arraySum() for structures?
Ditto, what Phillip said...but here is a hack.
cfscript
myStruct = structnew();
myStruct.val1 = 1;
myStruct.val2 = 3;
myStruct.val3 = 2;
list = structKeyList(myStruct);
total = 0;
for(i = 1; i LTE listLen(list); i = i + 1) {
total = total + myStruct[listGetAt(list,i)];
}
/cfscript
cfoutput#total#/cfoutput
- Original Message -
From: Cantrell, Adam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:14 AM
Subject: arraySum() for structures?
Does anyone know how I can get the sum of values from a structure?
Example:
cfscript
myStruct = structnew();
myStruct.val1 = 1;
myStruct.val2 = 3;
myStruct.val3 = 2;
/cfscript
I want to quickly return the sum, 6, without having to loop over the keys
and all that. Is it possible?
Adam.
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RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Mandate, that and a disillusioned view of ASP Rob -Original Message- From: Greg Jordan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being here is an article from pcmagazine comparing a slew of web applications servers/languages... http://www.pcmag.com/article/0,2997,s=1611a=3125,00.asp The real question for me would be WHY ON EARTH would your current employer switch to ASP if you don't have any experience with it and they are currently using CF. Have they not seen the NEO faq? Or is this one of those mandate thingys? -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 1:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CF VS ASP
cf-talk archives On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Robert Bailey wrote: OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Will they keep you on? You should be happy; you get paid to learn something new. On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Robert Bailey wrote: Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
No arguments really, just close minded -Original Message- From: Neil Giarratana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:44 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being I'm sure a lot of people on this list are former ASP'ers. As one of them, I can tell you that life does not have to be that hard. Does he have specific ASP is better arguments? At our MMUG meeting yesterday, there was an ASP'er who was seeing how to connect to a database in CF for the first time. I talked to him afterward and he said that we kept asking himself where's the rest of the code? until he figured out that there wasn't any... Regards, Neil -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF even though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but I think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he should really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always pick the best product. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being
Yes, he knows we develop at a very fast pace, mostly thanks to the FuseBox specs. He wants me to learn ASP and create the intranet using ASP as opposed to CF, hm, that sounds like fun, all I can really do in ASP right now is retrieve and update data in a DB and send email, so I imagine I may have a lot to learn, at least he bought me some books, lol -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:47 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Have you pointed out the rapid development nature of CF? Talk their talk...faster development translates to lower development/maintenance costs. Talk like that usually grabs the suits attention ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:36 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being But I have made up my mind that if they kill Cold Fusion here I am not staying here any longer. It is mostly because we have a new manager that seems to be such a die hard ASP fan who swears it is better then CF even though he does not even know anything about CF. A little annoying, but I think since he is not the one that is doing any of the coding, he should really go with what us developers are wanting to work with. Maybe I am living in a dream like state when I think that managers will always pick the best product. -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:28 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being and on that note you should tell your boss there is a new version of CF comingall that can be said here is WOW...wait for it...can you say coool ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Robert Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 11:12 AM Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being Yeah, I thought this would get quite a bit of response, but I would really like the information to share with my current employer who wants to move from CF to ASP and get rid of CF, which I do not want to do at all, and I only know a little ASP, and from what I do know, I do not like it. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 10:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF VS ASP - let the trolling being gentlemen (and ladies) start your engines Anthony Petruzzi Webmaster 954-321-4703 http://www.sheriff.org -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 2:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF VS ASP OK, I have been looking for some things on the net that shows the pros and cons of CF as opposed to ASP. Knowing very little ASP myself, I do not know the many differences. Anyone know where I can find this? Pretty much looking for development time differences, execution speed, security and scalability at a bare minimum. Anyone know where I can find this? Rob __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
