RE: Multiple selections into a DB

2003-03-05 Thread Joe Eugene
 I feel like I'm missing something there.
Yes you are.
Lets say your checkbox Name is myChkBox
Once the user clicks submit your checkbox values will look like

form.myChkBox=1,3,5,9,10

Now insert into the DB.
cfloop index=i from=1 to=#listlen(form.myChkBox)#
cfquery name=someQuery datasource=
!--- You can use sessionid or cookie to identify user---
insert into SomeTable values (#sessionID#,#ListGetAt(form.myChkBox,i)#)
/cfquery
/cfloop

Now your DB should look like
Userid chkBoxValue
1   1
1   3
1   5 ... etc

When user comes back to the page... you can compare the chkBoxValue to
your DB values to turn on/off checkboxes

Joe Eugene



 -Original Message-
 From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 1:48 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple selections into a DB


 Here's what I don't understand:  As I update the db, it seems like
 you're telling me to input all 5 values at the same time, correct?  If
 so, then I'll generate an error because of the comma delimited values
 that are trying to be pushed into a numeric field.

 I feel like I'm missing something there.

 
  Dont have any tutorials.. but i will try to explain it briefly.
 
  Let say you have a table with a unique identifier/userid/selections as
  (fields).
  Once you present the user with checkbox options, each
  checkbox has a unique
  id right? and all checkboxes have the same name
 
  When the user submits the form, you insert 5 selections into
  the Table with
  the above schema. When the user re-visits the same page, you
  show all the
  options.. except this time, you have to check the DB
  selections to turn
  on the checkboxes.
  cfset selections=valueList(QueryName.selections)
  input type=checkbox name=mychkBox value=10 cfif
  listFind(selections,10)checked/cfif
 
  Joe Eugene
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:32 AM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: RE: Multiple selections into a DB
  
  
   I think I get what you're saying, but I've never done this
  before, so
   I'm a bit at a loss as to how to approach it.
  
   Tutorial?  Outline?  Example?  Any would help!  Thanks!
  
-Original Message-
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple selections into a DB
   
   
You might want to just insert the checkbox values into one
field rather than having 5 fields for 5 selections.
   
Once you re-display the page.. you can check these
selection ids against your display ids...
   
Its late! hope you get the idea.
   
Joe Eugene
  
  
 
 
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Taking a picture or a web site by specifying a URL?

2003-03-05 Thread Pablo Varando
I'm looking for an application (or looking to make one if none exists) that
allows you to take an automatic snapshot (thumbnail) of a web site when a
user specifies a URL.

Does any one know of any that currently exists?

Any suggestions are appreciated...

Thanks,
Pablo Varando

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RE: cfapplication: really basic question

2003-03-05 Thread Darren Adams
You don't need to close the application tag.

Always feels like you should but, you don't have to.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Austin Govella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 04 March 2003 18:22
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: cfapplication: really basic question
 
 I'm setting app wide variables for DSNs in Application.cfm.
 
 My book says you set them after the CFAPPLICATION tag, but it doesn't
say
 there's an end tag. I was worried the app might not know when
varialbles
 stoppped being app variables...
 
 So, I have:
 
 cfapplication
   name=blah
 
 cfset dsn_course_catalog = db_course_catalog
 
 Is that all I need? It seems like you'd wanna close the CFAPPLICATION
tag,
   but I can't find an example like that.
 
 Many thanks,
 --
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RE: Taking a picture or a web site by specifying a URL?

2003-03-05 Thread Darren Adams
Hmmm not sure but, try the cfx_image tag

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 -Original Message-
 From: Pablo Varando [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:29
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Taking a picture or a web site by specifying a URL?
 
 I'm looking for an application (or looking to make one if none exists)
 that
 allows you to take an automatic snapshot (thumbnail) of a web site
when a
 user specifies a URL.
 
 Does any one know of any that currently exists?
 
 Any suggestions are appreciated...
 
 Thanks,
 Pablo Varando
 
 
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New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Oliver Cookson
Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a 
little slow in places).

Well done MM.

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CFMX 100% utilization

2003-03-05 Thread Jason Lees (National Express)
All,

We've just moved a development website over to the production server.  

The problem is that after about 2 hours, the production server just went
keeled over with 100% CPU. This didnt happen on the development server 

The production server win 2K, twin Xeon processor, with hyper threading.

Any one any Ideas?

TIA.

Jason Lees
Development Team Leader
National Express Coaches Ltd.



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RE: site wide error handling

2003-03-05 Thread Andre Mohamed
A few additions:

You don't really need the conditional logic around the cferror tag. 

It might be wise to also include a request error handler e.g.

cferror type=request...

Although you are restricted to the number of variables you can use in
this template (and you can't log/mail etc.) it provides a fallback in
case there happens to be an error in your exception handler defined by

cferror type=exception...

And thus you avoid being hosed.

If you want to replace try/catch for queries then the most appropriate
exception type to specify is database e.g.

cferror type=exception exception=database

Naturally, the most logical place to put these tags is in
Application.cfm though, as with cfapplication etc., you are not
restricted to doing so i.e. you can override the exception handler on
any given page as necessary or appropriate.

You also need to be aware that if an error or exception occurs before
you have called cferror e.g. somewhere high up in Application.cfm then
your error handlers won't run.

This contribution is purely for my own benefit as I wanted something to
type.


André

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 04 March 2003 18:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: site wide error handling

Instead of using the try/catch blocks around each query, use a site-wide
error catcher that you set up in the Application.cfm file:

cfif (#CGI.SCRIPT_NAME# NEQ /includes/errorhandler.cfm)
cferror template=/includes/errorhandler.cfm  type=exception
exception=ANY
/cfif

The key is to use the type of exception and exception=any (I think
this came in to either v4.51 or v5).

So if an error is caught, the users is tossed to the errorhandler.cfm
page, where you display a Sorry, error occured or whatever message and
you set the following params:

cfparam name=error.template default=unknown
cfparam name=error.querystring default=unknown
cfparam name=error.remoteaddress default=unknown
cfparam name=error.HTTPreferer default/index.cfm
cfparam name=error.diagnostics default=unknown

You can use the error structure (error.[whatever]) to then send mail to
an admin and/or dump into a database (I do both).

Just make sure to CFPARAM everything that will be called, or you will
get an error in the error-handler page and you'll be hosed.

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2003-03-05 Thread Stephen Moretti
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Re: CFMX 100% utilization

2003-03-05 Thread Sean A Corfield
On Wednesday, Mar 5, 2003, at 02:02 US/Pacific, Jason Lees (National 
Express) wrote:
 We've just moved a development website over to the production server.

 The problem is that after about 2 hours, the production server just 
 went
 keeled over with 100% CPU. This didnt happen on the development server

What web server / version? What database / version / drivers?

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

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Any Interest In Managing A Small Web Site?

2003-03-05 Thread Hawkes, Keith A CIV
I'm looking for anyone interested in managing www.divepuertorico.com

It's a scuba shop in Puerto Rico,  It probably doesn't pay much, but you'd
get all the free diving or snorkling you could handle should you visit.

Please respond off-line, and I apologize for using this forum for this, but
time is a big factor and I know there's the right webster here somewhere.

Keith
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RE: CFMX 100% utilization

2003-03-05 Thread Jason Lees (National Express)
Sorry, we're a bit rushed switching back to the old production server.

webserver - IIS 
DB - MSSQL 2K, SP3 with the Generic Windows ODBC drivers.

Jason Lees
Development Team Leader
National Express Coaches Ltd.



-Original Message-
From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 10:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX 100% utilization


On Wednesday, Mar 5, 2003, at 02:02 US/Pacific, Jason Lees (National 
Express) wrote:
 We've just moved a development website over to the production server.

 The problem is that after about 2 hours, the production server just 
 went
 keeled over with 100% CPU. This didnt happen on the development server

What web server / version? What database / version / drivers?

Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/blog/

If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive.
-- Margaret Atwood


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RE: site wide error handling

2003-03-05 Thread Will Swain
Hi Lee,

Sorry, combination of slow brain and lack of sleep.

Can you just overview in a little more detail what you are doing here? It
looks very interesting as an error handling strategy.

Cheers

Will

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Sent: 04 March 2003 18:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: site wide error handling


Instead of using the try/catch blocks around each query, use a site-wide
error catcher that you set up in the Application.cfm file:

cfif (#CGI.SCRIPT_NAME# NEQ /includes/errorhandler.cfm)
cferror template=/includes/errorhandler.cfm  type=exception
exception=ANY
/cfif

The key is to use the type of exception and exception=any (I think this
came in to either v4.51 or v5).

So if an error is caught, the users is tossed to the errorhandler.cfm page,
where you display a Sorry, error occured or whatever message and you set
the following params:

cfparam name=error.template default=unknown
cfparam name=error.querystring default=unknown
cfparam name=error.remoteaddress default=unknown
cfparam name=error.HTTPreferer default/index.cfm
cfparam name=error.diagnostics default=unknown

You can use the error structure (error.[whatever]) to then send mail to an
admin and/or dump into a database (I do both).

Just make sure to CFPARAM everything that will be called, or you will get an
error in the error-handler page and you'll be hosed.

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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Andre Mohamed
Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
:)

Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
though!

-Original Message-
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Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a 
little slow in places).

Well done MM.


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Distinct on two columns?

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Kear
I have to dynamically generate a drop-down list, so that if a column in
a data table contains a certain type, it is included in the drop down
list.  So far no problem.

For example, the drop down list has to include all the different types
in the type column. 

But where I'm stumped is that if the type includes drum, I have to
look in the  loading column and see if 'front' or 'top' is in there.  If
there are any values with 'drum' in the type column and 'front' in the
loading column, I have to include 'Front loading drum' in the drop down
list.  But if not, I have to omit that value from the drop down list.

How can I do this without doing a whole succession of queries?

One way to do it is cfif query1.type contains 'drum'another query on
the table to find the distinct values of loading where type like
'%drum%' If this query gives recordcount greater than zero, include the
value in the drop down.cfif


Is there a better way?   This seems awfully clumsy and processor
intensive.


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.





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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button problem
which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
:)

Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
though!

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a 
little slow in places).

Well done MM.



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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Ryan Sabir
I went into the accessibility section, and turned on the HTML version which
is much faster and therefore more useful for my main need for the site,
which is looking up support and product information... you don't have to
twiddle your thumbs for 10 seconds every time you go back to the home page.

I had the top toolbar problem as well, i logged a bug report and got a
message back saying I needed to upgrade my Flash player.. after doing that
it worked ok.. a bit annoying, I would have thought I'd be warned that my
player needed updating...


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From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
 :)

 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
 though!

 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a
 little slow in places).

 Well done MM.



 
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RE: Distinct on two columns?

2003-03-05 Thread David Collie (itndac)
More a question than an answer... as no time to test

Would this work?

SELECT DISTINCT (PR_SIDE ||   || PR_TYPE)
FROMPRODUCTS

Ie concantenate them and use distinct on that?



-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 11:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Distinct on two columns?


I have to dynamically generate a drop-down list, so that if a column in
a data table contains a certain type, it is included in the drop down
list.  So far no problem.

For example, the drop down list has to include all the different types
in the type column. 

But where I'm stumped is that if the type includes drum, I have to
look in the  loading column and see if 'front' or 'top' is in there.  If
there are any values with 'drum' in the type column and 'front' in the
loading column, I have to include 'Front loading drum' in the drop down
list.  But if not, I have to omit that value from the drop down list.

How can I do this without doing a whole succession of queries?

One way to do it is cfif query1.type contains 'drum'another query on
the table to find the distinct values of loading where type like
'%drum%' If this query gives recordcount greater than zero, include the
value in the drop down.cfif


Is there a better way?   This seems awfully clumsy and processor
intensive.


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.






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Using cferror to catch 404's

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RE: Distinct on two columns?

2003-03-05 Thread Jim Gurfein
select distinct pr_side,pr_type



At 11:55 AM 3/5/2003 +, you wrote:
More a question than an answer... as no time to test

Would this work?

SELECT DISTINCT (PR_SIDE ||   || PR_TYPE)
FROMPRODUCTS

Ie concantenate them and use distinct on that?



-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 11:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Distinct on two columns?


I have to dynamically generate a drop-down list, so that if a column in
a data table contains a certain type, it is included in the drop down
list.  So far no problem.

For example, the drop down list has to include all the different types
in the type column.

But where I'm stumped is that if the type includes drum, I have to
look in the  loading column and see if 'front' or 'top' is in there.  If
there are any values with 'drum' in the type column and 'front' in the
loading column, I have to include 'Front loading drum' in the drop down
list.  But if not, I have to omit that value from the drop down list.

How can I do this without doing a whole succession of queries?

One way to do it is cfif query1.type contains 'drum'another query on
the table to find the distinct values of loading where type like
'%drum%' If this query gives recordcount greater than zero, include the
value in the drop down.cfif


Is there a better way?   This seems awfully clumsy and processor
intensive.


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.







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RE: Distinct on two columns?

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Kear
I hadn't thought about concatenating them. Good idea.  But no it wont
work because the second column is only relevant for types that have the
word 'drum' in them.  All other types, the second column has nothing to
do with it. 


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.





-Original Message-
From: David Collie (itndac) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2003 10:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Distinct on two columns?

More a question than an answer... as no time to test

Would this work?

SELECT DISTINCT (PR_SIDE ||   || PR_TYPE)
FROMPRODUCTS

Ie concantenate them and use distinct on that?



-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 11:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Distinct on two columns?


I have to dynamically generate a drop-down list, so that if a column in
a data table contains a certain type, it is included in the drop down
list.  So far no problem.

For example, the drop down list has to include all the different types
in the type column. 

But where I'm stumped is that if the type includes drum, I have to
look in the  loading column and see if 'front' or 'top' is in there.  If
there are any values with 'drum' in the type column and 'front' in the
loading column, I have to include 'Front loading drum' in the drop down
list.  But if not, I have to omit that value from the drop down list.

How can I do this without doing a whole succession of queries?

One way to do it is cfif query1.type contains 'drum'another query on
the table to find the distinct values of loading where type like
'%drum%' If this query gives recordcount greater than zero, include the
value in the drop down.cfif


Is there a better way?   This seems awfully clumsy and processor
intensive.


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.







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Not XHTML

2003-03-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.macromedia.com






-Original Message-
From: Ryan Sabir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 11:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!


I went into the accessibility section, and turned on the HTML version which
is much faster and therefore more useful for my main need for the site,
which is looking up support and product information... you don't have to
twiddle your thumbs for 10 seconds every time you go back to the home page.

I had the top toolbar problem as well, i logged a bug report and got a
message back saying I needed to upgrade my Flash player.. after doing that
it worked ok.. a bit annoying, I would have thought I'd be warned that my
player needed updating...


- Original Message -
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:06 PM
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
 :)

 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
 though!

 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a
 little slow in places).

 Well done MM.



 

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RE: Distinct on two columns?

2003-03-05 Thread Michael Kear
Oh yeah that'd be right.  The most obvious answer.  And that's the one I
haven't tried.  DER! (smacks forehead with palm of hand)

Thanks Jim, you're right.

blush  sheepish grin


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.


Note to self: KEAR YOU BLOODY IDIOT - TRY THE OBVIOUS BEFORE YOU ASK
AGAIN!!


-Original Message-
From: Jim Gurfein [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, 5 March 2003 10:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Distinct on two columns?

select distinct pr_side,pr_type



At 11:55 AM 3/5/2003 +, you wrote:
More a question than an answer... as no time to test

Would this work?

SELECT DISTINCT (PR_SIDE ||   || PR_TYPE)
FROMPRODUCTS

Ie concantenate them and use distinct on that?



-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 11:05
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Distinct on two columns?


I have to dynamically generate a drop-down list, so that if a column in
a data table contains a certain type, it is included in the drop down
list.  So far no problem.

For example, the drop down list has to include all the different types
in the type column.

But where I'm stumped is that if the type includes drum, I have to
look in the  loading column and see if 'front' or 'top' is in there.
If
there are any values with 'drum' in the type column and 'front' in the
loading column, I have to include 'Front loading drum' in the drop down
list.  But if not, I have to omit that value from the drop down list.

How can I do this without doing a whole succession of queries?

One way to do it is cfif query1.type contains 'drum'another query on
the table to find the distinct values of loading where type like
'%drum%' If this query gives recordcount greater than zero, include the
value in the drop down.cfif


Is there a better way?   This seems awfully clumsy and processor
intensive.


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.








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RE: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Everett, Al
 http://www.macromedia.com/bin/webfeedback.cgi

Why is this not .cfm?
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RE: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Bruce H. Beinert
LOL!!!

Old Skool

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New MM.com


 http://www.macromedia.com/bin/webfeedback.cgi

Why is this not .cfm?

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RE: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
it must work good then  :-)


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From: Bruce H. Beinert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New MM.com


LOL!!!

Old Skool

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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 2:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
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 http://www.macromedia.com/bin/webfeedback.cgi

Why is this not .cfm?


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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Bud
On 3/5/03, Dave Lyons penned:
if you have a problem with MM tell them about it, I don't understand why you
feel you need to come here and do it.  Do you think this group has magic
powers  and if you cry for them long enough, they will fix your every whim?
lol

Maybe not EVERY whim, but we originally got the licensing issues 
(extra $$$ for multi-processor, etc.) taken care of by everyone 
coming RIGHT HERE and griping. This venue has always been partially 
about that. I'd never before seen a major corporation rethink their 
pricing/licensing policies just from some posts on a mailing list.

So to answer you question, yes, this group certainly DOES have magic 
powers. :-D
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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Ryan Sabir wrote:
 I went into the accessibility section, and turned on the HTML version which

Unfortunately, the downloads section appears to ignore the 
mediaprefs=gif cookie (and the downloads section is completely 
inaccessible in every Lynx version I have).

Jochem

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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Dave Lyons
Yes, I agree that if a decent discussion is started about it then it seems
like Sean  Christian jump right in a get something done.
But this guy was taking it way to far!
And then starts insulting members and saying that he wants to aggravate us.
If the guy had a brain cell and a half he'd realize that we are the people
that can help him but instead he starts spewing insults at people.
a better logic suggests that if you have an issue then get the others to
push the maker to fix it, simple common sense.

I'd never before seen a major corporation rethink their  pricing/licensing
policies just from some posts on a mailing list
Exactly! but as I recall when ( I believe it was brook) started that out and
throughout the duration of the discussion it was handled fairly pleasantly.
A complaint was made and a discussion started  MM responded. If I was MM I
wouldn't respond to that putz either.

hey I realize its just my opinion  my opinion was he took it too far.
If I was MM I'd give him his money back, cancel his license and send him on
his cheerful way:)

Maybe Tony could share his half pipe with him and things would chill a bit
and he'd get taken care of.

dave


- Original Message -
From: Bud [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?


 On 3/5/03, Dave Lyons penned:
 if you have a problem with MM tell them about it, I don't understand why
you
 feel you need to come here and do it.  Do you think this group has magic
 powers  and if you cry for them long enough, they will fix your every
whim?
 lol

 Maybe not EVERY whim, but we originally got the licensing issues
 (extra $$$ for multi-processor, etc.) taken care of by everyone
 coming RIGHT HERE and griping. This venue has always been partially
 about that. I'd never before seen a major corporation rethink their
 pricing/licensing policies just from some posts on a mailing list.

 So to answer you question, yes, this group certainly DOES have magic
 powers. :-D
 --

 Bud Schneehagen - Tropical Web Creations

 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
 ColdFusion Solutions / eCommerce Development
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Paul Hastings wrote:
 i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world  was prepared for
 p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth was used, even
 the slower portions didn't seem that slow.

Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I 
don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a limited 
number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the components 
sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4 
seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never max 
out on my end.
As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

Jochem

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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Joe Eugene wrote:
If the issue is a CFMX issue, then you do not have to pay anything.
 
 
 What else do u think it is?

The other option is a bug in the Oracle ODBC drivers.

The CF MX ODBC Service is the most likely candidate for being the cause 
of this problem, but I don't think it is the only one.

Jochem

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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Joe Eugene wrote:
 
 I got the JDBC driver working. The purpose of this whole post
 is to find out why the CFMX ODBC Agent/Server is not working/stable?
 
 I never saw any MM documentation saying that CFMX ODBC Connections are
 NOT Stable or NOT supposed to work.

How much documentation do you need? I see not recommended and I 
interpret that as code language for has a 50% chance of failure.

Jochem

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Re: Not XHTML

2003-03-05 Thread Stephen Moretti
~sends you to the feedback page on the MM site~

http://www.macromedia.com/bin/webfeedback.cgi

Tell them not us.

Stephen
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Olympia Conference Centre London
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From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:01 PM
Subject: Not XHTML


 http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.macromedia.com






 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Sabir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 11:32
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!


 I went into the accessibility section, and turned on the HTML version
which
 is much faster and therefore more useful for my main need for the site,
 which is looking up support and product information... you don't have to
 twiddle your thumbs for 10 seconds every time you go back to the home
page.

 I had the top toolbar problem as well, i logged a bug report and got a
 message back saying I needed to upgrade my Flash player.. after doing that
 it worked ok.. a bit annoying, I would have thought I'd be warned that my
 player needed updating...


 - Original Message -
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:06 PM
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


  I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
 problem
  which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much
cleaner.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
  Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
  :)
 
  Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
  though!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
  Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)
 
  The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a
  little slow in places).
 
  Well done MM.
 
 
 
 

 
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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Dave Lyons
LOL!

- Original Message -
From: Jochem van Dieten [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:15 AM
Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?


 Joe Eugene wrote:
 
  I got the JDBC driver working. The purpose of this whole post
  is to find out why the CFMX ODBC Agent/Server is not working/stable?
 
  I never saw any MM documentation saying that CFMX ODBC Connections are
  NOT Stable or NOT supposed to work.

 How much documentation do you need? I see not recommended and I
 interpret that as code language for has a 50% chance of failure.

 Jochem

 
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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
samcfug wrote:
 
 While you may post what are obvious bugs to a wish list, that is not in reality
 a bug tracking system.

If you have a bug, call Macromedia. Yes, they ask for your creditcard 
number. No, they won't bill you if it is really a bug (I have *never* 
been billed and Macromedia support is on the speed dial).
If you have a feature request, submit it to the wishform.

For important bugs, you should not use any other channel as calling 
Macromedia.


 Most importantly, is that for the most part users that
 are trying to avail themselves of free installation support run up against a
 stone wall when trying to deal with a non-responsive support system.  When you
 do get a reply from a support request, it will be 1. months late.  2. usually a
 canned response along the lines of read the documentation.

Installation support s*cks.

Jochem

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Re: Any Interest In Managing A Small Web Site?

2003-03-05 Thread Guy McDowell
Hello Keith,

I'm interested in doing this, pending some clarification. 

If they are just looking for HTML based updates I do that for $20/hr
Canadian. If they are looking for a dynamic backend to be developed (a
la ColdFusion) I do that for $40/hr Canadian. 

I've done web editing/design and Content Management System development
for such sites as www.canlearn.ca, www.ofah.org, www.quidnovis.com and
more. I'm strongest in ColdFusion 5, HTML, SQL, JavaScript and Flash 5
as well as Spectra 1.5.1.

The downside is that my time is limited as I have a full-time job and
would be doing this in the off-hours. A few hours a week would be the
most I could handle for updates. If they need some serious development
work I could handle about 10 hours per week. 

I hope that provides all the info you need. I look forward to hearing
back from you! So how's the weather out west? We just got another foot
of snow in Ontario.



Truly,

Guy J. McDowell, M.M.C.P.
(705) 324-9144 ex 3422
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sir Sandford Fleming College
Frost Campus
P.O. Box 8000
Lindsay, Ontario
K9V 5E6


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 06:35am 
I'm looking for anyone interested in managing www.divepuertorico.com 

It's a scuba shop in Puerto Rico,  It probably doesn't pay much, but
you'd
get all the free diving or snorkling you could handle should you
visit.

Please respond off-line, and I apologize for using this forum for this,
but
time is a big factor and I know there's the right webster here
somewhere.

Keith

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Re: Any Interest In Managing A Small Web Site?

2003-03-05 Thread Guy McDowell
Please accept my apologies for posting my reply to this to the list. I
truly regret that. 



Truly,

Guy J. McDowell, M.M.C.P.
(705) 324-9144 ex 3422
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sir Sandford Fleming College
Frost Campus
P.O. Box 8000
Lindsay, Ontario
K9V 5E6


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 06:35am 
I'm looking for anyone interested in managing www.divepuertorico.com 

It's a scuba shop in Puerto Rico,  It probably doesn't pay much, but
you'd
get all the free diving or snorkling you could handle should you
visit.

Please respond off-line, and I apologize for using this forum for this,
but
time is a big factor and I know there's the right webster here
somewhere.

Keith

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Subquery in Query of Queries on CF5

2003-03-05 Thread Edwards Robert (air0rae)
I am using ColdFusion 5 Enterprise Edition.  I have 2 separate oracle
databases that cannot communicate to each other, but the web server can
communicate to them individually.  I am pulling back data from to queries as
such.

Query 1:

Machine1 null   Loc1 
Machine2 null   Loc2
Machine3 null   Loc3 
Machine4 null   Loc4



Query2
null   Machine1 Loc1 
null   Machine3 Loc3 
null   Machine4 Loc4
null   Machine5 Loc5

I am trying to get a union query with nested selects to work as such

Select * from Query1 where Q1MachineName not in (Select Q2MachineName from
Query2)
UNION
Select * from Query2 where Q2MachineName not in (Select Q1MachineName from
Query1)

So I end up with 

Machine2 null   Loc2
null   Machine5 Loc5

The problem is, when I run the union query above, I get the error Query
Manipulation Error Code = 0 
Can't find symbol: select

Any suggestions as to what I am doing wrong?

Thanks,
Rob Edwards

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CFGraph images disappear when converting using HTMLDOCS

2003-03-05 Thread David Collie (itndac)
Hey all,

Have a Rate of Returns report that uses a simple CFGRAPH to turn the results into a 
pie chart.

I then use the HTML generated within the HTMLDOCS custom tag CF_HTML2PDF3 to convert 
the report into a PDF

Gives me errors like
Unable to read image file 
/CFGraphingPage.cfm?Action=GetGraphGraphFile=/cfgraphs/pie.swtKey=1708060404Generate=TRUEFileType=jpg!
 

I realise that I need an absolute path to the image to include it in the PDF using 
HTMLDOCS

Question is, is there any way I can pull the generated graphs into the report, either 
by accessing the (assuming) temp image file that is generated... or if there are any 
other ways

Cheers in advance
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CFX_jzip

2003-03-05 Thread Paolo Cesana
A while ago I downloaded the aforementioned tag.
Does anyone know where it can be downloaded again and where I can find documentation 
for it?
Tks/Rgds


 
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Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread mike sullivan
Greetings,

I have a job where I need to create a file on a client
PC and populate it with data pulled off an sql server.

How can I create a file on a client PC?
How shoud I go about this in a CF / IE environment?

Thanks
Mike


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RE: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Benoit Hediard
Congratulations to Sean and all the team.
The new site is great.

I like very much the new design and the way the site and the information are
organized.

One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest selection in
the home page.
For example, if you have choosen Products  ColdFusion MX and Solutions 
Developers, the next time you come, the home page will have them already
selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities).
Very simple but efficient personalization...

Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get
better.

As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well handled
by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download).

For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error pages...
ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses!

Bravo!

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02
 À : CF-Talk
 Objet : Re: New MM.com


 Paul Hastings wrote:
  i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world  was prepared for
  p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth
 was used, even
  the slower portions didn't seem that slow.

 Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I
 don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a limited
 number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the components
 sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4
 seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never max
 out on my end.
 As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

 Jochem

 
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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread Tangorre, Michael
You can not create a file on the client smachine for obvious security reasons. 
However, you can create a file on the server.


-Original Message-
From: mike sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Interact with client file system


Greetings,

I have a job where I need to create a file on a client
PC and populate it with data pulled off an sql server.

How can I create a file on a client PC?
How shoud I go about this in a CF / IE environment?

Thanks
Mike


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Web Management Job Is Filled

2003-03-05 Thread Hawkes, Keith A CIV
Thank you for all the reponses.  The web management position has been
filled, but it sure makes me feel like I'm not alone with all the great
correspondence I received.  Thanks to each and every one of you!
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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread webguy
Actually,

It is possible both on netscape and IE, however it does depend on the
security settings.

WG

-Original Message-
From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 14:44
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Interact with client file system


You can not create a file on the client smachine for obvious security
reasons. However, you can create a file on the server.


-Original Message-
From: mike sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Interact with client file system


Greetings,

I have a job where I need to create a file on a client
PC and populate it with data pulled off an sql server.

How can I create a file on a client PC?
How shoud I go about this in a CF / IE environment?

Thanks
Mike


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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Wheatley
AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it
to me ;)
The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a
little worried.
If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market
well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore
unfortunately until they fix the problem.



--
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Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer
Ediets.com
ICQ - 417645
Aim - Bill Ediets
954-360-9022 x159


- Original Message -
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: New MM.com


Congratulations to Sean and all the team.
The new site is great.

I like very much the new design and the way the site and the information are
organized.

One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest selection in
the home page.
For example, if you have choosen Products  ColdFusion MX and Solutions 
Developers, the next time you come, the home page will have them already
selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities).
Very simple but efficient personalization...

Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get
better.

As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well handled
by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download).

For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error pages...
ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses!

Bravo!

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02
 À : CF-Talk
 Objet : Re: New MM.com


 Paul Hastings wrote:
  i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world  was prepared for
  p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth
 was used, even
  the slower portions didn't seem that slow.

 Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I
 don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a limited
 number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the components
 sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4
 seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never max
 out on my end.
 As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

 Jochem



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RE: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Dave Watts
 I think that the key here is running CFMX as a 
 named user. I couldn't get it to work when it 
 ran as system.

I suspect this is because you're using a trusted connection with your SQL
Server ODBC connection. If you use a native SQL Server login, you should be
able to run CFMX as whatever you want. (Not that you should run it as SYSTEM
anyway, though.)

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Re: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread jon hall
Are you in a position where the ie clients have activex enabled and
will trust the site, and what kind of file are you creating?

CF has no ability to interact with the client file system, but you
could use some client side jscript/vbscript and the
System.FileSyetemObject, or something like SoftArtisans XFile control
which has this capability. Just as a warning, in the past their
controls have been scriptable only with vbscript. I'm not a vbscript
master (oxymoron? g) but I had no trouble with it.

http://fileup.softartisans.com/default.aspx?PageID=122

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Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 9:42:00 AM, you wrote:
ms Greetings,

ms I have a job where I need to create a file on a client
ms PC and populate it with data pulled off an sql server.

ms How can I create a file on a client PC?
ms How shoud I go about this in a CF / IE environment?

ms Thanks
ms Mike


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Re: Free Mail Server

2003-03-05 Thread Phillip B
I've been using Mercury mail for almost a year without any real problems.
Two things though, it doesn't run as a service and the support for it is not
that great. I'm looking for a new server because I'm not that happy with my
experiance.

Phillip B.

- Original Message -
From: jon roig [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 7:50 PM
Subject: RE: Free Mail Server


 We've been very happy with mercury mail -- totally free, you can download
it
 from pmail.com

 Does SMPT, POP... even finger, should you want it.

 -- jon

 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 12:49 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Free Mail Server


 I will second mail enable.

 Thanks!
 Robert Bailey
 Famous for nothing


 -Original Message-
 From: Kris Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:59 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Free Mail Server


 Mail Enable

 Mailenable.com

 Nice product...

 Only $175 if you need webmail otherwise it is free

 -Original Message-
 From: Paul Giesenhagen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:58 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: Free Mail Server


 Anyone know of a good free mail server?  (sorry for the ot, but as
 always you'all know everything)

 Running on Windows2000 Advanced Server
 IIS 5

 Paul Giesenhagen
 QuillDesign



 
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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Willy Ray
Yeah, not to add fuel to the fire, but I can't see it at all in Opera 7.
 

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 08:00AM 
AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
horses*it
to me ;)
The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then
i'm a
little worried.
If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
market
well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore
unfortunately until they fix the problem.



--
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Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer
Ediets.com
ICQ - 417645
Aim - Bill Ediets
954-360-9022 x159


- Original Message -
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: New MM.com


Congratulations to Sean and all the team.
The new site is great.

I like very much the new design and the way the site and the
information are
organized.

One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest
selection in
the home page.
For example, if you have choosen Products  ColdFusion MX and
Solutions 
Developers, the next time you come, the home page will have them
already
selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities).
Very simple but efficient personalization...

Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get
better.

As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well
handled
by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download).

For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error
pages...
ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses!

Bravo!

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com 

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02
 + : CF-Talk
 Objet : Re: New MM.com


 Paul Hastings wrote:
  i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world  was
prepared for
  p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth
 was used, even
  the slower portions didn't seem that slow.

 Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I
 don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a
limited
 number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the
components
 sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4
 seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never
max
 out on my end.
 As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

 Jochem




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RE: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Dave Watts
   I am not the ONLY person that has complained about
   CFMX ODBX Problems, others here have reported the
   problem as well. Switching to a JDBC driver is not
   the answer to CFMX ODBC problems.
 
  It might be, actually. I would recommend that you try 
  it out, if you have a JDBC driver available. Sure, it 
  might be a pain, but why would you expect ODBC to 
  necessarily work as well from Java through JDBC as 
  it did with no extra middleware layer in CF 5?

 I got the JDBC driver working. The purpose of this whole 
 post is to find out why the CFMX ODBC Agent/Server is 
 not working/stable?
 
 I never saw any MM documentation saying that CFMX ODBC 
 Connections are NOT Stable or NOT supposed to work.

Sure, but you might want to apply a bit of common sense. Macromedia isn't
going to say ODBC connections don't work, but they do say they won't work as
well as pure JDBC connections. Draw your own conclusions. The SequeLink
stuff (the ODBC Agent and Server) are a workaround for when you don't have
JDBC drivers, aren't they?

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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread paris lundis
Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere... it's bad design, slow 
and confusing in many regards...

They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this morning to 
find the Exchanges... had to use the site map  

That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make me feel the site is 
any more responsive...

Hopefully they revise this...

Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of files initially... you 
have to go to a right side of screen block to select show newest...  a change from how 
it historically has worked...

But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)

-p

-- Original Message --
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - 

I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button problem
which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
:)

Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
though!

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a 
little slow in places).

Well done MM.




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RE: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Yves Arsenault
Me neither...

:-(

Yves

-Original Message-
From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: March 5, 2003 11:08 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New MM.com


Yeah, not to add fuel to the fire, but I can't see it at all in Opera 7.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 08:00AM 
AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
horses*it
to me ;)
The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then
i'm a
little worried.
If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
market
well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore
unfortunately until they fix the problem.



--
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer
Ediets.com
ICQ - 417645
Aim - Bill Ediets
954-360-9022 x159


- Original Message -
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: New MM.com


Congratulations to Sean and all the team.
The new site is great.

I like very much the new design and the way the site and the
information are
organized.

One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest
selection in
the home page.
For example, if you have choosen Products  ColdFusion MX and
Solutions 
Developers, the next time you come, the home page will have them
already
selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities).
Very simple but efficient personalization...

Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get
better.

As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well
handled
by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download).

For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error
pages...
ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses!

Bravo!

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02
 + : CF-Talk
 Objet : Re: New MM.com


 Paul Hastings wrote:
  i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world  was
prepared for
  p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth
 was used, even
  the slower portions didn't seem that slow.

 Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I
 don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a
limited
 number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the
components
 sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4
 seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never
max
 out on my end.
 As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

 Jochem





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RE: CFX_jzip

2003-03-05 Thread Sarsoun, Jeff
You should be able to find cfx_jzip on the macromedia exchange site.  I think you have 
to pay for that one, but I wrote a similar tag called jcompress which is written in 
java and is free on the mm exchange.  Or you could use cfobject to use the winzip or 
pkzip executable.

Jeff



-Original Message-
From: Paolo Cesana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFX_jzip


A while ago I downloaded the aforementioned tag.
Does anyone know where it can be downloaded again and where I can find documentation 
for it?
Tks/Rgds


 
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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Wheatley
yea i'm opera 7.01
- Original Message -
From: Willy Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:07 AM
Subject: Re: New MM.com


Yeah, not to add fuel to the fire, but I can't see it at all in Opera 7.


 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 08:00AM 
AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
horses*it
to me ;)
The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then
i'm a
little worried.
If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
market
well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore
unfortunately until they fix the problem.



--
Bill Wheatley
Senior Database Developer
Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer
Ediets.com
ICQ - 417645
Aim - Bill Ediets
954-360-9022 x159


- Original Message -
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:46 AM
Subject: RE: New MM.com


Congratulations to Sean and all the team.
The new site is great.

I like very much the new design and the way the site and the
information are
organized.

One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest
selection in
the home page.
For example, if you have choosen Products  ColdFusion MX and
Solutions 
Developers, the next time you come, the home page will have them
already
selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities).
Very simple but efficient personalization...

Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get
better.

As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well
handled
by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download).

For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error
pages...
ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses!

Bravo!

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02
 + : CF-Talk
 Objet : Re: New MM.com


 Paul Hastings wrote:
  i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world  was
prepared for
  p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth
 was used, even
  the slower portions didn't seem that slow.

 Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I
 don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a
limited
 number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the
components
 sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4
 seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never
max
 out on my end.
 As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

 Jochem





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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to look at first
off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), but I cant see how you could
have failed to find the exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange

-Original Message-
From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere... it's bad
design, slow and confusing in many regards...

They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this
morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map  

That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make me feel the
site is any more responsive...

Hopefully they revise this...

Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of files
initially... you have to go to a right side of screen block to select show
newest...  a change from how it historically has worked...

But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)

-p

-- Original Message --
From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - 

I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
problem
which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner.

-Original Message-
From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to
:)

Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem
though!

-Original Message-
From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a 
little slow in places).

Well done MM.





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Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread mike sullivan
To clairfy,

The data or file is processed by a custom 3rd party
driver for a output device slaved to the client PC.  

I talked to the dirver developer and he wants a file
that he can process with his VB program without
getting into http gets (I think the best way to go
would be to cffile the data on the server and have his
driver fetch it via http but I am looking for ideas).

This would fall on the Intranet side of things but I
want to keep it as simple and client proof as
possible.

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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
Is it for intranet usage?

Could you perhaps put the file on a share on the client machine then?





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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Kay Smoljak
I like the new site a lot. MM had to make a big MX statement and they've
certainly done that. Congrats to everyone involved.

Although, I am disappointed that it doesn't validate to w3c standards...
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=www.macromedia.com

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Chris Kief wrote:
 After all the complaining today, how bout a big HELL YEAH! for MM and
the
 new site. Fantastic job guys!!


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RE: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Joe Eugene
 Sure, but you might want to apply a bit of common sense. Macromedia isn't
 going to say ODBC connections don't work, but they do say they
 won't work as
 well as pure JDBC connections.

There is no COMMON Sense to apply here. Everything worked while
we were testing CFMX. Obviously..since we didnt see any problems...
took it to production.. and everything starts breaking.

There is NO warning in the release notes about an UnStable CFMX ODBC Engine.

Joe Eugene



 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:13 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: ODBC Problems?


I am not the ONLY person that has complained about
CFMX ODBX Problems, others here have reported the
problem as well. Switching to a JDBC driver is not
the answer to CFMX ODBC problems.
  
   It might be, actually. I would recommend that you try
   it out, if you have a JDBC driver available. Sure, it
   might be a pain, but why would you expect ODBC to
   necessarily work as well from Java through JDBC as
   it did with no extra middleware layer in CF 5?
 
  I got the JDBC driver working. The purpose of this whole
  post is to find out why the CFMX ODBC Agent/Server is
  not working/stable?
 
  I never saw any MM documentation saying that CFMX ODBC
  Connections are NOT Stable or NOT supposed to work.

 Sure, but you might want to apply a bit of common sense. Macromedia isn't
 going to say ODBC connections don't work, but they do say they
 won't work as
 well as pure JDBC connections. Draw your own conclusions. The SequeLink
 stuff (the ODBC Agent and Server) are a workaround for when you don't have
 JDBC drivers, aren't they?

 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
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RE: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Joe Eugene
 How much documentation do you need? I see not recommended and I
 interpret that as code language for has a 50% chance of failure.

Can you point me to the CFMX Release Notes that says
ODBC Connections are not recommended in CFMX?

Joe Eugene



 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:16 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?


 Joe Eugene wrote:
 
  I got the JDBC driver working. The purpose of this whole post
  is to find out why the CFMX ODBC Agent/Server is not working/stable?
 
  I never saw any MM documentation saying that CFMX ODBC Connections are
  NOT Stable or NOT supposed to work.

 How much documentation do you need? I see not recommended and I
 interpret that as code language for has a 50% chance of failure.

 Jochem

 
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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Jillian Carroll
I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:

-   Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
be watching
-   They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.

For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers:

-   NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended)
-   NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen)
-   NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links
that are visible, aren't functional)

-   Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser)

-   IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)

It's unfortunate.

--
Jillian

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to 
 look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), 
 but I cant see how you could have failed to find the 
 exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange
 
 -Original Message-
 From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash 
 everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...
 
 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite 
 a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the 
 site map  
 
 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't 
 make me feel the site is any more responsive...
 
 Hopefully they revise this...
 
 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of 
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen 
 block to select show newest...  a change from how it 
 historically has worked...
 
 But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)
 
 -p
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - 
 
 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
 problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much 
 cleaner.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's 
 supposed to
 :)
 
 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it 
 over a modem 
 though!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)
 
 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks 
 excellent (if a
 little slow in places).
 
 Well done MM.
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Benoit Hediard
Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
Is there only never happy people on this list?

 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere...
 it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...

I disagree about the bad design and confusing things arguments (...
agree about the slow one).
The organisation of the site seems to be much clear than the previous one.

The home page is not intended to ColdFusion Developers... but any kind of
audience, that's why it requires a flashy brand/corporate lookfeel.
If you don't like it, just go directly to
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/, you don't have to go
through it.
(there was already a big marketing flash movie in the previous home page)

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a
 pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map

Not very hard...
Select Product  ColdFusion MX on the home page, and then you'll get a
direct access to the exchange.
(and it will remember this setting)

 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make
 me feel the site is any more responsive...

 Hopefully they revise this...

 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen block
 to select show newest...  a change from how it historically has worked...

Once you have selected Newest, it will also remember this settings for
your next visit (no changes to your historical habits).

Come on guys, move forward...


Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread mike sullivan
You know, I tried this and it did work, I am just not
convinced that it is the best way.  I am really trying
to eliminate prossible client problems (hidden share
maybe?)
Mike
--- Hugo Ahlenius [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is it for intranet usage?
 
 Could you perhaps put the file on a share on the
 client machine then?
 


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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
I suspect the browsers which are failing such as Netscape is due to the fact
the Flash Player is out of date (I think we are up to 6,0,79,0  or
something?!)

-Original Message-
From: Jillian Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 15:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:

-   Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
be watching
-   They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.

For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers:

-   NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended)
-   NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen)
-   NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links
that are visible, aren't functional)

-   Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser)

-   IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)

It's unfortunate.

--
Jillian

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to 
 look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), 
 but I cant see how you could have failed to find the 
 exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange
 
 -Original Message-
 From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash 
 everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...
 
 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite 
 a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the 
 site map  
 
 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't 
 make me feel the site is any more responsive...
 
 Hopefully they revise this...
 
 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of 
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen 
 block to select show newest...  a change from how it 
 historically has worked...
 
 But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)
 
 -p
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - 
 
 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
 problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much 
 cleaner.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's 
 supposed to
 :)
 
 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it 
 over a modem 
 though!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)
 
 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks 
 excellent (if a
 little slow in places).
 
 Well done MM.
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:11 AM, paris lundis wrote:

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain 
 this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map

The locations of sections and applications on the site should not have 
changed, although in many cases, the navigation has.  If you find that 
you are not able to locate something quickly, it would be a big help if 
you could let us know:

http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html

(The Exchange issue has been noted.)

We know there are still some rough edges, and we will get them worked 
out.  Just keep in mind that this project was a massive effort, so it 
will take a little time to get all the kinks worked out.

Christian

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Re: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread jon hall
Well, the only way to driectly interact with the client's file system
from a browser is going to be ActiveX/.Net, or a java applet.

How about sending the file as a file type that opens by default in
this guys program though? Just like acrobat will open if you click on
a pdf, or winamp opens when an mp3 is clicked. You could even send the
file with cfcontent as long as you know the mime type to make it a bit
more automatic.

-- 
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 10:32:20 AM, you wrote:
ms To clairfy,

ms The data or file is processed by a custom 3rd party
ms driver for a output device slaved to the client PC.  

ms I talked to the dirver developer and he wants a file
ms that he can process with his VB program without
ms getting into http gets (I think the best way to go
ms would be to cffile the data on the server and have his
ms driver fetch it via http but I am looking for ideas).

ms This would fall on the Intranet side of things but I
ms want to keep it as simple and client proof as
ms possible.

ms Mike



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RE: win 2000 professional for web server?

2003-03-05 Thread Kola Oyedeji
Costas

When you say connections are you talking about simultaneous concurrent
requests?

Thanks

 -Original Message-
 From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 March 2003 00:42
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
 
 
 Actually, win2k pro will give you glitches.  IIS won't allow 
 more than ten
 connections, and a web based connection DOES count. 
 
 Consider trying Apache on win2k pro instead.  That's a MUCH 
 better work
 around.  I've seen win2k pro deny connections on a web 
 server before for too
 many concurrent connections.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 4:35 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: win 2000 professional for web server?
 
 
   I am setting up a web server with CF 5.0 on a win2kpro
   box and I read in the CF 5.0 installation manual that 
   win2kpro is not recommended because it only allows 10 
   concurrent TCP/IP connections. This means that only 10 
   concurrent users can access the website right? Or are 
   there connections used for internal things that would 
   limit concurrent users further?
  
  Database connections, SMTP connections, FTP connections,
  management connections, backup connections etc. etc. etc. 
  all reduce that number. If you run DNS even that reduces 
  the number during zone transfers.
 
 Actually, I don't think this is true. I think you can have 
 more than ten
 concurrent TCP/IP connections. You just can't support more than ten
 concurrent authenticated or SSL connections through the 
 version of IIS that
 comes with Win2K Pro.
 
 I'm not 100% sure about this, though, and don't have a 
 machine handy to
 test.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 voice: (202) 797-5496
 fax: (202) 797-5444
 
 
 
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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread Hugo Ahlenius
You can do it the other way around: map a share on the server out to the
clients...





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RE: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Joe Eugene
 If you have a bug, call Macromedia. Yes, they ask for your creditcard
 number. No, they won't bill you if it is really a bug (I have *never*
 been billed and Macromedia support is on the speed dial).
 If you have a feature request, submit it to the wishform.

I hope you are not suggesting i call Macromedia Support and
ask them.. IF they have CFMX ODBC working stable?

My first question to list on this topic was
Has anybody got CFMX ODBX working stable?

The reason for this question is to find out the root cause
of the ODBC Connection Failures. Its interesting to know that
nobody is really curious...why certain things dont work.
If i tell you CFC is not recommended and has problems...
What will be your solution to that? Use Java Beans?

Joe Eugene



 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 8:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?


 samcfug wrote:
 
  While you may post what are obvious bugs to a wish list, that
 is not in reality
  a bug tracking system.

 If you have a bug, call Macromedia. Yes, they ask for your creditcard
 number. No, they won't bill you if it is really a bug (I have *never*
 been billed and Macromedia support is on the speed dial).
 If you have a feature request, submit it to the wishform.

 For important bugs, you should not use any other channel as calling
 Macromedia.


  Most importantly, is that for the most part users that
  are trying to avail themselves of free installation support run
 up against a
  stone wall when trying to deal with a non-responsive support
 system.  When you
  do get a reply from a support request, it will be 1. months
 late.  2. usually a
  canned response along the lines of read the documentation.

 Installation support s*cks.

 Jochem

 
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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Joe Eugene wrote:
How much documentation do you need? I see not recommended and I
interpret that as code language for has a 50% chance of failure.
 
 Can you point me to the CFMX Release Notes that says
 ODBC Connections are not recommended in CFMX?

Not release notes, the normal manuals.

quote
JDBC-ODBC bridge

Translates JDBC calls into ODBC calls, and sends them to the ODBC driver.

Advantages
Allows access to many different databases.

Disadvantages
The ODBC driver, and possibly the client database libraries, must reside 
on the ColdFusion server computer. Performance is also below par.
Macromedia does not recommend this driver type unless your application 
requires specific features of these drivers.
/quote
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/Administering_ColdFusion_MX/datasources_ADV_MJS2.jsp

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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Christian Cantrell
The new macromedia.com is certainly a next generation site, and  
unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention  
below.  I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find  
things like this by going to the following URL:

http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html

I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and next  
generation project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging  
from performance to compatibility.  Over time, however, it has really  
been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS.  To some  
extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big  
steps forward.  Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm  
glad it's Macromedia.

Christian

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote:

 I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:

 - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
 be watching
 - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
 matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.

 For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers:

 - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended)
 - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen)
 - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links
 that are visible, aren't functional)

 - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser)

 - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)

 It's unfortunate.

 --
 Jillian

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to
 look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick),
 but I cant see how you could have failed to find the
 exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange

 -Original Message-
 From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash
 everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite
 a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the
 site map

 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't
 make me feel the site is any more responsive...

 Hopefully they revise this...

 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen
 block to select show newest...  a change from how it
 historically has worked...

 But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)

 -p

 -- Original Message --
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 -

 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
 problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much
 cleaner.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's
 supposed to
 :)

 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it
 over a modem
 though!

 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks
 excellent (if a
 little slow in places).

 Well done MM.






 
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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread webguy
The best why to do this is to give the file to download a extension  .myext
and associate the VB app with that file. So when downloading the file the
browser will

* save this file
* open with myVBapp

Choose 2 and off you go

WG

-Original Message-
From: mike sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 15:32
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Interact with client file system


To clairfy,

The data or file is processed by a custom 3rd party
driver for a output device slaved to the client PC.

I talked to the dirver developer and he wants a file
that he can process with his VB program without
getting into http gets (I think the best way to go
would be to cffile the data on the server and have his
driver fetch it via http but I am looking for ideas).

This would fall on the Intranet side of things but I
want to keep it as simple and client proof as
possible.

Mike



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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Willy Ray
Well, yeah, but shouldn't it decay properly, and let me know I don't
have the latest plugin?  Instead, I get a blank page.  I'd get fired for
deploying a page that didn't properly detect my plugin version.  I
develop in ColdFusion *and Flash*!  My plugin is pretty current.

Willy

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 08:57AM 
I suspect the browsers which are failing such as Netscape is due to the
fact
the Flash Player is out of date (I think we are up to 6,0,79,0  or
something?!)

-Original Message-
From: Jillian Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 March 2003 15:50
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:

-   Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
be watching
-   They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.

For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers:

-   NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is
intended)
-   NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen)
-   NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links
that are visible, aren't functional)

-   Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser)

-   IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)

It's unfortunate.

--
Jillian

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to 
 look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), 
 but I cant see how you could have failed to find the 
 exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash 
 everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...
 
 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite 
 a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the 
 site map  
 
 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't 
 make me feel the site is any more responsive...
 
 Hopefully they revise this...
 
 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of 
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen 
 block to select show newest...  a change from how it 
 historically has worked...
 
 But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)
 
 -p
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - 
 
 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back
button
 problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much 
 cleaner.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 
 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's 
 supposed to
 :)
 
 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it 
 over a modem 
 though!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!
 
 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)
 
 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks 
 excellent (if a
 little slow in places).
 
 Well done MM.
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread jon hall
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:02:27 AM, you wrote:
CC We know there are still some rough edges, and we will get them worked
CC out.  Just keep in mind that this project was a massive effort, so it 
CC will take a little time to get all the kinks worked out.

This would be the crux of the matter to me.
While I have issues with the site, I'd like anyone who has ever had an
absolutely perfect web site rollout the scale of the new
macromedia.com, to please raise their hand...

Didn't think so :)

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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread webguy
 jon said:
 Well, the only way to driectly interact with the client's file system
 from a browser is going to be ActiveX/.Net, or a java applet.

Actually that isn't fully correct, it is possible to access the local file
system via Javascript.
Both by design and accident. Depends on permissions.

WG

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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Chris Montgomery
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 7:02:08 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

 Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. ...

I agree. I really dislike the new site.

 As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

I guess I missed the option to do this. Where is it?

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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Scott Wilhelm
If it's a beta version, why is it public then?  

I mean, I wouldn't think that it's a good practice to put your beta's
directly out to the public.

Just my 2 cents.

Scott

-Original Message-
From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
Is there only never happy people on this list?

 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere...
 it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...

I disagree about the bad design and confusing things arguments (...
agree about the slow one).
The organisation of the site seems to be much clear than the previous
one.

The home page is not intended to ColdFusion Developers... but any kind
of
audience, that's why it requires a flashy brand/corporate lookfeel.
If you don't like it, just go directly to
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/, you don't have to go
through it.
(there was already a big marketing flash movie in the previous home
page)

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a
 pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map

Not very hard...
Select Product  ColdFusion MX on the home page, and then you'll get a
direct access to the exchange.
(and it will remember this setting)

 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make
 me feel the site is any more responsive...

 Hopefully they revise this...

 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen block
 to select show newest...  a change from how it historically has
worked...

Once you have selected Newest, it will also remember this settings for
your next visit (no changes to your historical habits).

Come on guys, move forward...


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Re: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread mike sullivan
That is an interesting idea.

--- jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, the only way to driectly interact with the
 client's file system
 from a browser is going to be ActiveX/.Net, or a
 java applet.
 
 How about sending the file as a file type that opens
 by default in
 this guys program though? Just like acrobat will
 open if you click on
 a pdf, or winamp opens when an mp3 is clicked. You
 could even send the
 file with cfcontent as long as you know the mime
 type to make it a bit
 more automatic.
 


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Re: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Joe Eugene wrote:
If you have a bug, call Macromedia. Yes, they ask for your creditcard
number. No, they won't bill you if it is really a bug (I have *never*
been billed and Macromedia support is on the speed dial).
If you have a feature request, submit it to the wishform.
 
 
 I hope you are not suggesting i call Macromedia Support and
 ask them.. IF they have CFMX ODBC working stable?

Just say I can reproducably get this error if I do this and this. 
Worst case is they say it is filed as bug number X and we will get back 
to you. (If they can point you to some part of the documentation with a 
setting you have forgotten which fixes it but charge $$$ for that, 
wouldn't you be better of then you are now?)


 The reason for this question is to find out the root cause
 of the ODBC Connection Failures. Its interesting to know that
 nobody is really curious...why certain things dont work.

I am a little bit curious. But since I have never gotten any Access ODBC 
driver to work reliably at 50+ queries per second*, I am very happy at 
the same time with the prospect of having an excuse to ditch ODBC 
altogether.

* Yes, I host crazy people.


 If i tell you CFC is not recommended and has problems...
 What will be your solution to that? Use Java Beans?

My reaction would be to bitch. My solution would be to only use CFCs 
after rigorous testing.

Jochem

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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:59 AM, Benoit Hediard wrote:

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a
 pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map

 Not very hard...
 Select Product  ColdFusion MX on the home page, and then you'll get 
 a
 direct access to the exchange.
 (and it will remember this setting)

This is actually a very important point.  When you load a page 
containing one more more RIAs, it is very likely going to take longer 
than just loading a straightforward HTML page, however interacting with 
RIAs, in the long run, should save you several clicks.  And the fact 
that it remembers your selection is pretty ingenious, so basically, I 
now have a slightly customized version of the Macromedia home page that 
contains links directly to not just the product I am usually interested 
in, but different pages within that product section (including the 
exchange).

Christian

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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Dobris, Eric
Tried to use opera 7 and it just keeps reloading the main page.



-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!


Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:02:27 AM, you wrote:
CC We know there are still some rough edges, and we will get them 
CC worked out.  Just keep in mind that this project was a massive 
CC effort, so it will take a little time to get all the kinks worked 
CC out.

This would be the crux of the matter to me.
While I have issues with the site, I'd like anyone who has ever had an
absolutely perfect web site rollout the scale of the new macromedia.com, to
please raise their hand...

Didn't think so :)

-- 
 jon
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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Scott Wilhelm
Does MM really think that all developers have broadband???  I'm on a lan
now, and it takes a while to load.  I can't imagine how long it will
take my home PC on a dial-up.

Scott

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 4:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!


Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a 
little slow in places).

Well done MM.


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Re: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread jon hall
Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 11:18:36 AM, you wrote:
 jon said:
 Well, the only way to driectly interact with the client's file system
 from a browser is going to be ActiveX/.Net, or a java applet.

w Actually that isn't fully correct, it is possible to access the local file
w system via Javascript.
w Both by design and accident. Depends on permissions.

w WG

Since we are picking nits :)

Javascript as defined by Netscape has no concept of a local file
system, and I have never heard of a NS4 pref that allows any kind of
local file system access, it might exist, but it would have to be
extremely obscure.

IE's implementation of ECMAScript, JScript, can natively instantiate
and interact with ActiveX/COM objects like the FileSystemObject, or
MSXML, both of which can be used to interact with the file system.

-- 
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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Mike Chambers
One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market
(does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the Macromedia
site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.

mike chambers

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- Original Message -
From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: New MM.com


 AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it
 to me ;)
 The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
 I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a
 little worried.
 If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
market
 well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore
 unfortunately until they fix the problem.


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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Mike Chambers
The exchange is linked from the Download page, which itself is linked from
virtually every page on the site.

mike chambers

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- Original Message -
From: paris lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this
morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map


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RE: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Jim Campbell
I noticed on the product page that Homesite is referred to as The HTML
hand-coding tool with a cult following  Cult following?  Stable, fast and
easy-to-use now qualify for marginalized status?  Man, this Kool-Aid is
delicious!

- Jim

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New MM.com


Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 7:02:08 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

 Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. ...

I agree. I really dislike the new site.

 As a result, I switched to the HTML version.

I guess I missed the option to do this. Where is it?

--
Chris Montgomery


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Re: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread mike . wokasch
Benoit -
First point, if it's beta, why is it on their production site? Furthermore, it fails 
some of the most basic requirements (i.e. document validity). Moreover, it doesn't 
even have alt tags on some images.

Second, Flash, in of itself, may not be bad design or confusing, but it certainly is 
not good design to bury flashless design under accessibility. Where's the user 
control? Where is the alternative design? Moreover, it's not good design to force the 
download of a new plugin. Frankly, it didn't work when I said no.

Moreover, while the organization is better, it's still not good. If the complaint is 
there's a lot there, check out IBM.com.

Finally, have you tried to get to the gallery without Flash or Javascript? Good luck.

I think that everyone appreciates the fact they're trying to move forward, but for a 
company focused on creating web tools, it should be an example.

Frankly, There's no excuse.

Mike Wokasch

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RE: Interact with client file system

2003-03-05 Thread webguy
Yeah, just what I was saying.

I migrated 1ish users for an isp (a generated dailup config file
depending on location, username  etc) like this.
Worked well. That was in CF2 I think!!!

WG

-Original Message-
From: mike sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 March 2003 16:25
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Interact with client file system


That is an interesting idea.

--- jon hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Well, the only way to driectly interact with the
 client's file system
 from a browser is going to be ActiveX/.Net, or a
 java applet.

 How about sending the file as a file type that opens
 by default in
 this guys program though? Just like acrobat will
 open if you click on
 a pdf, or winamp opens when an mp3 is clicked. You
 could even send the
 file with cfcontent as long as you know the mime
 type to make it a bit
 more automatic.



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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Benoit Hediard
 If it's a beta version, why is it public then?

Sometimes when you are trying to experiment new things, you don't have any
choices than to experiment live.

Look at Google News (http://news.google.com/), it has been launch to the
public several months ago (nearly a year) and it is still Google News
Beta.

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com

 -Message d'origine-
 De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Envoyé : mercredi 5 mars 2003 17:21
 À : CF-Talk
 Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 If it's a beta version, why is it public then?

 I mean, I wouldn't think that it's a good practice to put your beta's
 directly out to the public.

 Just my 2 cents.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:00 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Come on guys... it is a Beta version.
 Is there only never happy people on this list?

  Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere...
  it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...

 I disagree about the bad design and confusing things arguments (...
 agree about the slow one).
 The organisation of the site seems to be much clear than the previous
 one.

 The home page is not intended to ColdFusion Developers... but any kind
 of
 audience, that's why it requires a flashy brand/corporate lookfeel.
 If you don't like it, just go directly to
 http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/, you don't have to go
 through it.
 (there was already a big marketing flash movie in the previous home
 page)

  They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a
  pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map

 Not very hard...
 Select Product  ColdFusion MX on the home page, and then you'll get a
 direct access to the exchange.
 (and it will remember this setting)

  That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make
  me feel the site is any more responsive...
 
  Hopefully they revise this...
 
  Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of
  files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen block
  to select show newest...  a change from how it historically has
 worked...

 Once you have selected Newest, it will also remember this settings for
 your next visit (no changes to your historical habits).

 Come on guys, move forward...


 Benoit Hediard
 www.benorama.com


 
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Re: Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread mike . wokasch
Buried under accessibility, unfortunately.

Mike Wokasch

**
 Wednesday, March 5, 2003, 7:02:08 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
 
  Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. ...
 
 I agree. I really dislike the new site.
 
  As a result, I switched to the HTML version.
 
 I guess I missed the option to do this. Where is it?
 
 -- 
 Chris Montgomery
 
 
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Re: Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread mike . wokasch
And that matters why exactly? More to the point, it could also mean that the 
percentage could be higher.

It's still not an excuse for it not working or validating.

Mike Wokasch

**
 One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market
 (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the Macromedia
 site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.
 
 mike chambers
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM
 Subject: Re: New MM.com
 
 
  AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it
  to me ;)
  The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
  I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a
  little worried.
  If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
 market
  well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore
  unfortunately until they fix the problem.
 
 
 
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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Wheatley
That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website!
Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get one.
If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know what
they are doing.
You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front page with a
browser like Opera.

I run it on IE and its slow as anything. Its like macromedia never stops to
think before it releases things lol.

Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser with
10%, and growing, of the market.




- Original Message -
From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!


The new macromedia.com is certainly a next generation site, and
unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention
below.  I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find
things like this by going to the following URL:

http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html

I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and next
generation project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging
from performance to compatibility.  Over time, however, it has really
been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS.  To some
extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big
steps forward.  Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm
glad it's Macromedia.

Christian

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote:

 I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:

 - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
 be watching
 - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
 matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.

 For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers:

 - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended)
 - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen)
 - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links
 that are visible, aren't functional)

 - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser)

 - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)

 It's unfortunate.

 --
 Jillian

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to
 look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick),
 but I cant see how you could have failed to find the
 exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange

 -Original Message-
 From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash
 everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite
 a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the
 site map

 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't
 make me feel the site is any more responsive...

 Hopefully they revise this...

 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen
 block to select show newest...  a change from how it
 historically has worked...

 But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)

 -p

 -- Original Message --
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 -

 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
 problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much
 cleaner.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's
 supposed to
 :)

 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it
 over a modem
 though!

 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks
 excellent (if a
 little slow in places).

 Well done MM.








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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Bill Wheatley
And nothing against you Christian i'm sure if it was upto you
they would test these things first so you didn't have to listen to us
complain :)
- Original Message -
From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched!


The new macromedia.com is certainly a next generation site, and
unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention
below.  I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find
things like this by going to the following URL:

http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html

I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and next
generation project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging
from performance to compatibility.  Over time, however, it has really
been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS.  To some
extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big
steps forward.  Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm
glad it's Macromedia.

Christian

On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote:

 I'm surprised MM would launch this site given:

 - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to
 be watching
 - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has
 matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc.

 For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers:

 - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended)
 - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen)
 - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links
 that are visible, aren't functional)

 - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser)

 - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly)

 It's unfortunate.

 --
 Jillian

 -Original Message-
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to
 look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick),
 but I cant see how you could have failed to find the
 exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange

 -Original Message-
 From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash
 everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards...

 They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite
 a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the
 site map

 That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't
 make me feel the site is any more responsive...

 Hopefully they revise this...

 Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of
 files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen
 block to select show newest...  a change from how it
 historically has worked...

 But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :)

 -p

 -- Original Message --
 From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date:  Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 -

 I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button
 problem
 which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much
 cleaner.

 -Original Message-
 From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched!


 Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's
 supposed to
 :)

 Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it
 over a modem
 though!

 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: New Macromedia.com launched!

 Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :)

 The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks
 excellent (if a
 little slow in places).

 Well done MM.








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RE: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Scott Wilhelm
Would that be a reason why the 10% doesn't visit the site then?

-s

-Original Message-
From: Mike Chambers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New MM.com


One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market
(does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the
Macromedia
site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: New MM.com


 AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
horses*it
 to me ;)
 The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
 I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then
i'm a
 little worried.
 If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
market
 well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore
 unfortunately until they fix the problem.



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RE: ODBC Problems? (RESOLVED)

2003-03-05 Thread Joe Eugene
 My reaction would be to bitch. My solution would be to only use CFCs
 after rigorous testing
LOL.. Interesting...quite different approaches!.

Anyways.. to end the topic... I already submitted the problem..
right after Sean/Mike gave me the Bug forum/Wish List site link.

The only 2 confirmations i needed from this whole post was...
1. Nobody on this list has CFMX ODBC working stable.
2. This is not an already acknowledged issue by MM.

Wonder how it got this far... Topic closed for me.

Joe Eugene



 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?


 Joe Eugene wrote:
 If you have a bug, call Macromedia. Yes, they ask for your creditcard
 number. No, they won't bill you if it is really a bug (I have *never*
 been billed and Macromedia support is on the speed dial).
 If you have a feature request, submit it to the wishform.
 
 
  I hope you are not suggesting i call Macromedia Support and
  ask them.. IF they have CFMX ODBC working stable?

 Just say I can reproducably get this error if I do this and this.
 Worst case is they say it is filed as bug number X and we will get back
 to you. (If they can point you to some part of the documentation with a
 setting you have forgotten which fixes it but charge $$$ for that,
 wouldn't you be better of then you are now?)


  The reason for this question is to find out the root cause
  of the ODBC Connection Failures. Its interesting to know that
  nobody is really curious...why certain things dont work.

 I am a little bit curious. But since I have never gotten any Access ODBC
 driver to work reliably at 50+ queries per second*, I am very happy at
 the same time with the prospect of having an excuse to ditch ODBC
 altogether.

 * Yes, I host crazy people.


  If i tell you CFC is not recommended and has problems...
  What will be your solution to that? Use Java Beans?

 My reaction would be to bitch. My solution would be to only use CFCs
 after rigorous testing.

 Jochem

 
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Re: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Jason Miller
Yea but the issue with the  mm home page is that it takes initially a
while to load, then every click I make has this sluggishness to it, and
most of the buttons create a page request which seems contradict
macromedia flashes power of reducing http requests.

On a few flash lists I am active on general consensus is negative... I
definately share that..Although design is very nice and clean - it seems
like last years trend. Perks and snappy elements such as the previous
shortcuts worked MUCH faster, drop down lists on old site had some flare
and animation to them  - even things like on focus color change in the
text box is removed.

And those shortcuts - they are amazingly slow for me. I have on one of
my sites drop downs pulling from a mere access database with coldfusion
as server side that work substantially faster.

Can't help but not be to thrilled. Yesterday - I also went in because I
needed to research some technotes.. I gave up. I closed the site and
visited some other resources.
While I am sure that macr designers and flash developers worked hard and
it is an all around nice app - I can't help but be sad about the change.
I would have sent clients to macromedia home page on old site for them
to see a glimpse of flash in user on hybrid pages.. Now I wouldn't send
a client to review that home page.
just my 02.
I don't know what the focus was and this is beta - but I for one hope
the second release is much faster and wow. The site and it's features
are just all around sluggish for me.. first request, and all requests
after that.

As for the interface remember what you last clicked - I don't mean to
sound like an ass- but not ingenious. Useful occasionally but many of us
flash people have been doing that for the last year through session vars
and cookies.

As a base architecture and layout - I think it shows potential if the
speed can be seriously increased.

but then again - it's just my 02 cents and who am I but a mere simple
multiple visit daily user..
jay miller

Christian Cantrell wrote:


On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:59 AM, Benoit Hediard wrote:



  

They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a

pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map

  

Not very hard...

Select Product  ColdFusion MX on the home page, and then you'll get 

a

direct access to the exchange.

(and it will remember this setting)





This is actually a very important point.  When you load a page 

containing one more more RIAs, it is very likely going to take longer 

than just loading a straightforward HTML page, however interacting with 

RIAs, in the long run, should save you several clicks.  And the fact 

that it remembers your selection is pretty ingenious, so basically, I 

now have a slightly customized version of the Macromedia home page that 

contains links directly to not just the product I am usually interested 

in, but different pages within that product section (including the 

exchange).



Christian




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RE: ODBC Problems?

2003-03-05 Thread Joe Eugene
 Not release notes, the normal manuals.

How many of us have read the entire CFMX Manual?

Should have in the Release notes in BOLD like.

We do not Expect ODBC Connections to work properly in CFMX,
We recommend you use JDBC drivers

Joe Eugene



 -Original Message-
 From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: ODBC Problems?


 Joe Eugene wrote:
 How much documentation do you need? I see not recommended and I
 interpret that as code language for has a 50% chance of failure.
 
  Can you point me to the CFMX Release Notes that says
  ODBC Connections are not recommended in CFMX?

 Not release notes, the normal manuals.

 quote
 JDBC-ODBC bridge

 Translates JDBC calls into ODBC calls, and sends them to the ODBC driver.

 Advantages
 Allows access to many different databases.

 Disadvantages
 The ODBC driver, and possibly the client database libraries, must reside
 on the ColdFusion server computer. Performance is also below par.
 Macromedia does not recommend this driver type unless your application
 requires specific features of these drivers.
 /quote
 http://livedocs.macromedia.com/cfmxdocs/Administering_ColdFusion_M
X/datasources_ADV_MJS2.jsp

Jochem


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Re: New MM.com

2003-03-05 Thread Willy Ray
I appreciate that you guys are getting hammered here.  I should have
thought you'd have expected it.  I also hear you getting defensive, and
I can really understand that, too.  I've been there.  

That not withstanding, what you've essentially said here is this: 
Whatever percentage the Opera market is, we're comfortable abandoning
them, or forcing them to launch a Microsoft product that they'd really
rather not.  

My guess is that your typical Opera user is a developer.  Is this
really an audience you're comfortable with orphaning?  For my part, when
I develop a site, I'm constantly testing it in several versions of
Explorer, Communicator and Opera.  Who QA-ed your new site, anyway?

Willy

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 09:31AM 
One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the
market
(does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the
Macromedia
site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage.

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

- Original Message -
From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM
Subject: Re: New MM.com


 AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like
horses*it
 to me ;)
 The stupid flash just loops loading over and over.
 I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then
i'm a
 little worried.
 If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser
market
 well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site
anymore
 unfortunately until they fix the problem.



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RE: New Macromedia.com launched!

2003-03-05 Thread Scott Brady
-- Original Message --
From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Come on guys... it is a Beta version.

If it's truly a Beta version as it says, then going to http://www.macromedia.com 
should not go to the new site. It should go to the old site with a Check out our beta 
site! link.  Doesn't Macromedia advise against putting Beta products into production? 
 Apparently not with their web site.

(Personally, I haven't noticed any bugs on IE5.5 Win2K, but I I was bugged by them 
saying it's a beta site).


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