Re: Multilingual site?
> Of Unicode, yes, but remember: there is NO Unicode on Internet, only UTF-8 and UTF-8 is > a method to encode 16 bits character using several 8 bits characters, (up to 6 actually). yes i think i maybe know that already. no, there are more than the utf-8 unicode transform out there, utf-16 is sometimes used, utf-32 exists but is very rare now. there is no "only UTF-8". in any case, its *all* unicode. > Only US-ASCII chars from 0 to 127 are represented as one byte, so UTF-8 is transparent > for ASCII only. All chars from 128 to 255 used in French or other European languages will take > 2 bytes, which is unnecessary if you need only languages supported by 256 character sets. thats hardly a reason not to use unicode. the vast majority of latin-1 text uses chars in the first 128 codepoints. the folks who designed & built unicode weren't dumb. > >>why would you want that? > > I mean produce a page in standard latin-1 character set, not UTF-8 again why would you want that? > Personally I can leave without that, and I think it is still possible to get Unicode characters > separately using appropriate code. non-standard, too much complexity, blah, blah, blah. there are reasons why java, sql server, etc. use unicode internally. > >>it also nails your application's feet to western europe > > Of course, but I was thinking of application that only use these languages. again why would you want to do that? with a bit of extra thought you can have an app thats world ready. > At that time I encountered several problems with some browsers, in particular NT4 to support > Unicode fonts: the user was requested to download hudge font files (about 32 megs), and the display was > simply horrible. i can't imagine why. arial unicode ms has been around way longer than 2 years and there were plenty of other unicode capable fonts back then. > NT4 is not a significative player any more, and Unicode fonts are more or less standard I suppose. international ms office comes with arial unicode ms, thats got everything (and i do mean everything) in it for 10-12mb. normal windows' installs have a couple-three "unicode" fonts but most all TT will cover some bits of unicode. on windows open up your character map tool, you will see that even venerable times roman has hebrew & arabic in it. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138402 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://affiliates.macromedia.com/t.asp?id=2439&p=go/dr_text_aff1
Re: Structure of Arrays: more about my error with
Just a thought, but does this work? -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Thursday, September 25, 2003, 12:43:26 AM, you wrote: RB> I forgot to mention in my last email that I can output: RB> #leak2[getKey2][3]# RB> but when I try RB> RB> I get that error RB> You have attempted to dereference a scalar variable of type class RB> java.math.BigDecimal as a structure with members. RB> I got it to run actually once by putting "float" in front of it in a RB> cfscript???! But that was a fluke, it errored out as soon as I hit RB> reload. RB> RB> float temperature = #leak2["#getKey2#"][3]#; RB> RB> I know someone out there is kind of cf data structures, please help. RB> Thanks, RB> Ray RB> ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138401 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://affiliates.macromedia.com/t.asp?id=2439&p=go/dr_text_aff1
trimming question
what would be the proper way to trim this up? ]*>","","ALL")#"> ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138400 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Irresponsible ISPs and servers
Claude Schneegans wrote: > > ? WW ProxEmail - The World Wide ProxEmail 1.0 script will allow you to use your > servers mail server without revealing your PC's IP address in your mailings. > For example, if you use mass mailing software from your PC and you connect to your > SMTP server to send mail with this software, most of the time, the IP address of > your PC is included in the mail headers. This IP can be used to file SPAM complaints > against you to your ISP or also allow attacks to be launched against your IP address. > You can also use this with mail programs such as Outlook and Eudora. Two scripts > are included. You must have shell access or cron access, or some other way to > execute software on your server. ? > > Now how come a responsible ISP could accept an eMail coming from one of his > customers connected to HIS server, > using a temporary IP address HE provided him, and not containing this IP address so > "SPAM complaints against > the sender" cannot be filed? "You must have shell access or cron access, or some other way to execute software on your server." Probably port forwarding on the shell server. Jochem ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138399 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Multiple tabs in excel
Hi Steve, 1. Start with your resulting Excel workbook. Build it to look exactly how you want the finished product to look. 2. Save [it] As HTML. Often times this will generate more then 1 file. Especially if you have >1 tab/worksheet. 3. Then use CF to dynamically build these files. 4. Lastly use to redirect to the start page when finished. I have some code that does this if you want to e-mail me off list. HTH ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138398 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Structure of Arrays: more about my error with
I forgot to mention in my last email that I can output: #leak2[getKey2][3]# but when I try I get that error You have attempted to dereference a scalar variable of type class java.math.BigDecimal as a structure with members. I got it to run actually once by putting "float" in front of it in a cfscript???! But that was a fluke, it errored out as soon as I hit reload. float temperature = #leak2["#getKey2#"][3]#; I know someone out there is kind of cf data structures, please help. Thanks, Ray ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138397 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Irresponsible ISPs and servers
While I was searching for email address validator software, I found this: « WW ProxEmail - The World Wide ProxEmail 1.0 script will allow you to use your servers mail server without revealing your PC's IP address in your mailings. For example, if you use mass mailing software from your PC and you connect to your SMTP server to send mail with this software, most of the time, the IP address of your PC is included in the mail headers. This IP can be used to file SPAM complaints against you to your ISP or also allow attacks to be launched against your IP address. You can also use this with mail programs such as Outlook and Eudora. Two scripts are included. You must have shell access or cron access, or some other way to execute software on your server. » Now how come a responsible ISP could accept an eMail coming from one of his customers connected to HIS server, using a temporary IP address HE provided him, and not containing this IP address so "SPAM complaints against the sender" cannot be filed? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138396 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
The best I found is http://www.cab.kabissa.org/emt.htm It says "[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid deliverable e-mail box address." but "[EMAIL PROTECTED] is not a valid deliverable e-mail box address." Others I tried said it was valid. However, it also says that "[EMAIL PROTECTED] is a valid deliverable e-mail box address." Your server is cheating ;-) The source code is available in PHP. I'm going to test it. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138395 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>Not possible now that all unregeistered .com's and .net's resolve to Verisign. Even for mail ? I just tried "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" and the response was "NO MAIL SERVER AT" I thought only domains registered at Verisign and not used for HTTP resolved to verisign. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138394 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>This combination catches about 22% of all message traffic which passes through my gateway Hmmm, interesting. I think blocking messages from invalid addresses would not be realistic, since responses from servers are not reliable, either both ways. But how about blocking non existing domains? I do not see any valid message that would pretend having been sent by an address from a domain that does not exists? ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138393 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Verifying an email address exists
Hi, I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address actually exists? I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to a true mail box in a true server. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138392 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
Not possible now that all unregeistered .com's and .net's resolve to Verisign. -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 11:15:40 PM, you wrote: CS> How about that: I just receive a message "Got 966 email spams again ? we can help ! " CS> an ad for an anti-spam software, from an address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" CS> The test service replies on that address "InvalidServer" ;-)) CS> When the anti-spam services use gross spam techniques, what can we think? ;-)) CS> Now, this is another question: how come all mail servers don't even check (or at least provide their CS> customers with such an option) if the server declared in the "reply to" of "from" ever exists? CS> This is unbelievable. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138391 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
The reason is that most spam uses spoofed FROM addresses. Much advertising email indicated a "do not reply" as the from address. These prevent mail loops on the sending server. due to bounces or auto-responders. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:15 PM Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | How about that: I just receive a message "Got 966 email spams again ? we can help ! " | an ad for an anti-spam software, from an address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" | The test service replies on that address "InvalidServer" ;-)) | | When the anti-spam services use gross spam techniques, what can we think? ;-)) | | Now, this is another question: how come all mail servers don't even check (or at least provide their | customers with such an option) if the server declared in the "reply to" of "from" ever exists? | This is unbelievable. | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138390 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Verifying an email address exists
The Posffix server, (free) which runs in Linux, has this verification feature built-in, should the admin choose to enable it. It will also do a reverse lookup if that is enabled. The option is to flag the mail, or just drop the connection with the incoming mail server. For instance RoadRunner does block based on the reverse lookup, and consequently many emails addressed to RoadRunner customers are summarily blocked, whether the customer has requested it or not. This causes a big loss of legitimate email. I have not enabled either of the features on my Postfix server, because them it would block all email coming from private servers, (such as this list) and restrict the sender to only major ISP mail accounts. What is enabled is a list of open-relay or open proxy databases, as a first line of defense, then the message is passed through the anti-virus scanner, (not free) followed by pattern analysis by Spam Assassin. This combination catches about 22% of all message traffic which passes through my gateway, destined for some 50-70 domains who subscribe to the service. Thus far no legitimate email has been blocked, and the customers report around a 98% drop in spam. A few sender domains are blocked at the router due to attempts to flood the server with spam, most of these are China, Korea, Brazil, or Italy. Interestingly, most spam originates in the US, but is commonly routed via open relays offshore. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:52 PM Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | >>If this ACTUALLY worked, then spam would be even worse than it currently is. | | I don't agree at all. | If all servers were really responsible, they would easily develop a protocol that will enable | email reader to validate the sender's address and delete the message if the test fails. | | >>All they can possibly do is check that a domain exists. | | Well, if we can eliminate all mail coming from a server that does not exist, that would already | be something, and something with near 100% accuracy. What are the chance you receive a valuable | mail from a server that does not exists? | | >>If you need to know if an email is valid, send it an email with a validation | link which the end user has to click on when they receive the email to prove | it's valid. | | No joke, I was thinking of something like this : send a email to the sender with some UUID | in the header, just reply to it with an empty message and I will add your address in my database | as a valid address and accept your messages from now. | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138389 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
How about that: I just receive a message "Got 966 email spams again ? we can help ! " an ad for an anti-spam software, from an address "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" The test service replies on that address "InvalidServer" ;-)) When the anti-spam services use gross spam techniques, what can we think? ;-)) Now, this is another question: how come all mail servers don't even check (or at least provide their customers with such an option) if the server declared in the "reply to" of "from" ever exists? This is unbelievable. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138388 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://affiliates.macromedia.com/t.asp?id=2439&p=go/dr_text_aff1
RE: Structure of arrays
> -Original Message- > From: Ray Bujarski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:33 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Structure of arrays > > I am trying to set a variable from an element of an array in a > structure: > > temperature = #leak2["#getKey2#"][3]# > You shouldn't need the pound signs - and I think that the way you've got them (nested like that) may be screwing things up. Try this: temperature = leak2[getKey2][3] I think it should work. Jim Davis ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138387 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Multiple tabs in excel
You can do it using standard HTML as long as the user has either Excel 2002 or Excel 2000 + Web Archive Filter (free install from ms site). The trick is you have to create a couple of files that mimic the several HTML files created when you save a multi-sheet workbook as HTML and then package the whole thing up as a Web Archive (MM term for standard Multipart-MIME). I have a presentation on my site about creating Word docs via HTML/XML/CSS that includes a few Web Archive examples as well as a Multipart-MIME CFC to help create web archives. http://www.rewindlife.com/archives/32.cfm Separate post specifically about the Multipart-MIME CFC: http://www.rewindlife.com/archives/33.cfm I'm working on an Excel example now as part of my MAX presentation (topic is comparing many methods of working with Office: Automation, OWC, DSO, Jet, HTML, XML, etc). I'll have a Breezo of the presentation and all examples on my blog after MAX if you can't attend. Best regards, Sam -- Blog: http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- > -Original Message- > From: DURETTE, STEVEN J (AIT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:26 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Multiple tabs in excel > > Does anyone know how I could put data into an excel spreadsheet using > multiple tabs? > > Before anyone asks, COM is not an option. It has to be done > through the > cfcontent tag. > > I know that you can rename the tab by adding ?repname= (? or > & depending on > your needs) to the url, so if multiple tabs can be done, does > anyone know > how to name them all differently? > > Thanks > Steve ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138386 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>Contact ArgoSoft to see if they will tell you anything. Thanks, I'll check this avenue, and may be, in the mean time, if someone can explain what are "MX records for that domain" and what is an "exchanger"? ;-) ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138385 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://affiliates.macromedia.com/t.asp?id=2439&p=go/dr_text_aff1
Re[2]: Verifying an email address exists
just to add my own monkey wrench to the proceedings - the new verisign "site-finder" (#*&[EMAIL PROTECTED]) will mess up any systems that check for an existing dns record / server for a domain, as all domains will resolve... Toby Thursday, September 25, 2003, 12:52:56 PM, you wrote: >>>If this ACTUALLY worked, then spam would be even worse than it currently is. CS> I don't agree at all. CS> If all servers were really responsible, they would easily develop a protocol that will enable CS> email reader to validate the sender's address and delete the message if the test fails. >>>All they can possibly do is check that a domain exists. CS> Well, if we can eliminate all mail coming from a server that does not exist, that would already CS> be something, and something with near 100% accuracy. What are the chance you receive a valuable CS> mail from a server that does not exists? >>>If you need to know if an email is valid, send it an email with a validation CS> link which the end user has to click on when they receive the email to prove CS> it's valid. CS> No joke, I was thinking of something like this : send a email to the sender with some UUID CS> in the header, just reply to it with an empty message and I will add your address in my database CS> as a valid address and accept your messages from now. CS> ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138384 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>of course they may not want you to do this. Also it may prove to be a rather long process. If they do it, there must be a way to do it, but I suppose I will have to program directly with the SMTP protocol, which I don't know. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138383 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>If this ACTUALLY worked, then spam would be even worse than it currently is. I don't agree at all. If all servers were really responsible, they would easily develop a protocol that will enable email reader to validate the sender's address and delete the message if the test fails. >>All they can possibly do is check that a domain exists. Well, if we can eliminate all mail coming from a server that does not exist, that would already be something, and something with near 100% accuracy. What are the chance you receive a valuable mail from a server that does not exists? >>If you need to know if an email is valid, send it an email with a validation link which the end user has to click on when they receive the email to prove it's valid. No joke, I was thinking of something like this : send a email to the sender with some UUID in the header, just reply to it with an empty message and I will add your address in my database as a valid address and accept your messages from now. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138382 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>I tested [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it said it was real. Same result at http://www.xmethods.com/ The server probably accepts any address as someone pointed out here. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138381 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Structure of arrays
I am trying to set a variable from an element of an array in a structure: temperature = #leak2["#getKey2#"][3]# However I get the following error: You have attempted to dereference a scalar variable of type class java.math.BigDecimal as a structure with members. GetKey2 is a string variable that I set (it is the key of the structure that I want to retrieve), and the value of element 3 is of type float that I want from the array. Temperature is the variable I am trying to set, and Leak2 is the structure of arrays obviously. Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong? I have never nested complex data types. Thanks, Ray ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138380 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Verifying an email address exists
I am sure there is a script that will do this. ArgoSoft mail server has an "Aggressive Verification" option. This is from the help file. "Agressive" Verification - if this option is enabled, then server will actually, in real time, perform the test, whether it is possible to send a reply to that address. Of course, will not send any email to that address, it will just pick up MX records for that domain, and check whether exchanger explicitly rejects an address. If this option is not enabled, then server will not attempt to connect to exchangers, it will just check whether a domain name of MAIL FROM address exists. So I bet this is available is some C++ script. Contact ArgoSoft to see if they will tell you anything. Also checkout http://www.argostuff.com/ Rick -Original Message- From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 8:03 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Verifying an email address exists I honestly don't know what you expect. If this ACTUALLY worked, then spam would be even worse than it currently is. All they can possibly do is check that a domain exists. Most if not all mail servers will not respond with an ackowledgment if a email does or does not exist. If you need to know if an email is valid, send it an email with a validation link which the end user has to click on when they receive the email to prove it's valid. Adam > -Original Message- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 September 2003 01:19 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > hehe...thanks Doug...that's the parent site or verifyemail.com > > I did some testing and it's not all that accurate. I tested > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my address) and it verified it as > real. Then > I tested [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it said it was real. > > Both those tests were performed without the "catch all" option selected. > > Cheers > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > - Original Message - > From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > > http://www.addresses.com/email_verify.php > > > > > > > > == > > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! > > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com > > Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. > > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 > > Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: > http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf > > == > > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:05 PM > > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > > > > | There is at least 1 site out there that will verify if an > e-mail address > is > > | real (I think it was something along the lines of www.verifymail.com). > It > > | isn't 100% accurate, but it sure beats just checking the > address format. > I > > | would imagine that this kind of thing may be available via a > webservice?? > > | anyone? Bueller? > > | > > | HTH > > | > > | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > | t. 250.920.8830 > > | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > | > > | - > > | Macromedia Associate Partner > > | www.macromedia.com > > | - > > | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > | Founder & Director > > | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > | - Original Message - > > | From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:25 PM > > | Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > | > > | > > | > >Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of > junk mail. > > | > >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, > ( like AOL > > | > >or hotmail, for instance) > > | > > > | > Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that > has been in > use > > | by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the > > | capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked > by the mail > > | server admin. > > | > > > | > Sorry for the bad news, > > | > > > | > > > | > -- > > | > --- > > | > Matt Robertson
RE: Verifying an email address exists
I honestly don't know what you expect. If this ACTUALLY worked, then spam would be even worse than it currently is. All they can possibly do is check that a domain exists. Most if not all mail servers will not respond with an ackowledgment if a email does or does not exist. If you need to know if an email is valid, send it an email with a validation link which the end user has to click on when they receive the email to prove it's valid. Adam > -Original Message- > From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 25 September 2003 01:19 > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > hehe...thanks Doug...that's the parent site or verifyemail.com > > I did some testing and it's not all that accurate. I tested > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my address) and it verified it as > real. Then > I tested [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it said it was real. > > Both those tests were performed without the "catch all" option selected. > > Cheers > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > - Original Message - > From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:05 PM > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > > http://www.addresses.com/email_verify.php > > > > > > > > == > > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! > > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com > > Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. > > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 > > Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: > http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf > > == > > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:05 PM > > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > > > > | There is at least 1 site out there that will verify if an > e-mail address > is > > | real (I think it was something along the lines of www.verifymail.com). > It > > | isn't 100% accurate, but it sure beats just checking the > address format. > I > > | would imagine that this kind of thing may be available via a > webservice?? > > | anyone? Bueller? > > | > > | HTH > > | > > | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > > | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > > | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > > | t. 250.920.8830 > > | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > | > > | - > > | Macromedia Associate Partner > > | www.macromedia.com > > | - > > | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > > | Founder & Director > > | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > > | - Original Message - > > | From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:25 PM > > | Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > | > > | > > | > >Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of > junk mail. > > | > >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, > ( like AOL > > | > >or hotmail, for instance) > > | > > > | > Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that > has been in > use > > | by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the > > | capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked > by the mail > > | server admin. > > | > > > | > Sorry for the bad news, > > | > > > | > > > | > -- > > | > --- > > | > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > | > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com > > | > --- > > | > > > | > -- > > | > > > | > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138378 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Auto Pinging Script? Thanks!
Dang it! I was the original poster then had to go visit a customer. Seems I missed a lot of fun. I appreciate all the folks who immediately homed in on the intent and provided valuable input. Matt Robertson, John Paul Ashenfelter and Howard Owens to name a few, gave me some great places to start. For Doug and others who might be concerned I will add this in hopes of giving you some peace of mind. Here is our reasoning and strategy. We own several domain names and manage domains for others. Long ago we decided to 1. outsource hosting and 2. not rely on only one provider -- one reason is that we found performance/loading was often (on a long term basis) progressively deteriorating. Or, more like a saw blade pattern -- once the hosting service became sufficiently loaded they would add additional capacity. And, look good for awhile. And, on a short term basis we often experienced significant performance variations during a 24 hour period. Meaning we don't put a whole lot of faith in one time samples. Especially when provided by the hosting service. No disrespect. Let's face it, in a competitive environment there is a little sales spin in even the purist. Our approach is to always be using three active hosts, located in different geographical areas. The goal is to setup a scheme (if within technical and practical means) where approx every 20 minutes a domain from each host will ping a domain on the others. Timing the response. Then we will monitor these for patterns or trends. Taking that one step further we will periodically monitor other CF hosts that we are interested in using in the event that one we currently have goes South. And, we have seen many a change hosting services ownership. And, before some says it -- this ain't perfect, but we feel it is the best scheme we can come up with to satisfy our needs. Assuming we can make it work. At 03:57 PM 9/24/2003 -0700, you wrote: >There's also a site out there (and I too lost all my bookmarks) that gives >you historical "up" reports on any domain you ask it to monitor. It will >tell you the last time the server was rebooted, what os and server its >running, and how often it's been rebooted. I think it even tells you how >long it was down for if it's down. If I can find the site again, I'll pass >along the url. > > >H. > > > >~~ >Howard Owens >Internet Operations Coordinator >Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co. >www.venturacountystar.com >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >AIM: GoCatGo1956 >~~ > > > -Original Message- > > From: cfhelp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:52 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? > > > > I lost my bookmarks but I had a really cool Whois and trace-route website > > that showed all the sites hosted on a server. That may be some help in > > evaluating a host. > > > > Anyone know of it or another? > > > > Rick > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138377 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: CC Processing and Recurring Billing
Thanks Benjamin...but I need more than that...I need to be able to change the amounts as well...that's the tough one ;-) Thanks Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Benjamin Rosenthal" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:12 PM Subject: OT: CC Processing and Recurring Billing > I've been pretty happy using a Wells Fargo internet only merchant account > with Verisign's Payflow Pro + recurring billing option. Free setup (with a > coupon code), and $29 a month for visa, mastercard, and discover. They > store the CC number and handle the recurring charges automatically. > > Benjamin > Gap Up LLC > > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138376 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
LOL == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:18 PM Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | hehe...thanks Doug...that's the parent site or verifyemail.com | | I did some testing and it's not all that accurate. I tested | [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my address) and it verified it as real. Then | I tested [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it said it was real. | | Both those tests were performed without the "catch all" option selected. | | Cheers | | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. | t. 250.920.8830 | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | - | Macromedia Associate Partner | www.macromedia.com | - | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group | Founder & Director | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com | - Original Message - | From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:05 PM | Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | | | > http://www.addresses.com/email_verify.php | > | > | > | > == | > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | > Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. | > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 | > Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: | http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf | > == | > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | > | > - Original Message - | > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:05 PM | > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | > | > | > | There is at least 1 site out there that will verify if an e-mail address | is | > | real (I think it was something along the lines of www.verifymail.com). | It | > | isn't 100% accurate, but it sure beats just checking the address format. | I | > | would imagine that this kind of thing may be available via a | webservice?? | > | anyone? Bueller? | > | | > | HTH | > | | > | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. | > | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development | > | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. | > | t. 250.920.8830 | > | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | | > | - | > | Macromedia Associate Partner | > | www.macromedia.com | > | - | > | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group | > | Founder & Director | > | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com | > | - Original Message - | > | From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | > | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:25 PM | > | Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | > | | > | | > | > >Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of junk mail. | > | > >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, ( like AOL | > | > >or hotmail, for instance) | > | > | > | > Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that has been in | use | > | by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the | > | capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked by the mail | > | server admin. | > | > | > | > Sorry for the bad news, | > | > | > | > | > | > -- | > | > --- | > | > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > | > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | > | > --- | > | > | > | > -- | > | > | > | | > | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138375 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
hehe...thanks Doug...that's the parent site or verifyemail.com I did some testing and it's not all that accurate. I tested [EMAIL PROTECTED] (my address) and it verified it as real. Then I tested [EMAIL PROTECTED] and it said it was real. Both those tests were performed without the "catch all" option selected. Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Doug White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > http://www.addresses.com/email_verify.php > > > > == > Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! > For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com > Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. > ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 > Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf > == > If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > > - Original Message - > From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:05 PM > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > | There is at least 1 site out there that will verify if an e-mail address is > | real (I think it was something along the lines of www.verifymail.com). It > | isn't 100% accurate, but it sure beats just checking the address format. I > | would imagine that this kind of thing may be available via a webservice?? > | anyone? Bueller? > | > | HTH > | > | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > | t. 250.920.8830 > | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > | - > | Macromedia Associate Partner > | www.macromedia.com > | - > | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > | Founder & Director > | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > | - Original Message - > | From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:25 PM > | Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > | > | > | > >Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of junk mail. > | > >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, ( like AOL > | > >or hotmail, for instance) > | > > | > Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that has been in use > | by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the > | capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked by the mail > | server admin. > | > > | > Sorry for the bad news, > | > > | > > | > -- > | > --- > | > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com > | > --- > | > > | > -- > | > > | > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138374 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
OT: CC Processing and Recurring Billing
I've been pretty happy using a Wells Fargo internet only merchant account with Verisign's Payflow Pro + recurring billing option. Free setup (with a coupon code), and $29 a month for visa, mastercard, and discover. They store the CC number and handle the recurring charges automatically. Benjamin Gap Up LLC > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138373 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
http://www.addresses.com/email_verify.php == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | There is at least 1 site out there that will verify if an e-mail address is | real (I think it was something along the lines of www.verifymail.com). It | isn't 100% accurate, but it sure beats just checking the address format. I | would imagine that this kind of thing may be available via a webservice?? | anyone? Bueller? | | HTH | | Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. | VP & Director of E-Commerce Development | Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. | t. 250.920.8830 | e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | - | Macromedia Associate Partner | www.macromedia.com | - | Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group | Founder & Director | www.cfug-vancouverisland.com | - Original Message - | From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:25 PM | Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists | | | > >Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of junk mail. | > >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, ( like AOL | > >or hotmail, for instance) | > | > Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that has been in use | by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the | capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked by the mail | server admin. | > | > Sorry for the bad news, | > | > | > -- | > --- | > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | > --- | > | > -- | > | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138372 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Help with Transact SQL
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Re: Verifying an email address exists
OK..found ithttp://www.verifyemail.com/ I would imagine you could easily use CFHTTP to post e-mail addresses to their verification form and then parse the results to get the answer you're after (of course they may not want you to do thisservice is free..haven't read the terms and conditions yet though) HTH Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Bryan Stevenson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:05 PM Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > There is at least 1 site out there that will verify if an e-mail address is > real (I think it was something along the lines of www.verifymail.com). It > isn't 100% accurate, but it sure beats just checking the address format. I > would imagine that this kind of thing may be available via a webservice?? > anyone? Bueller? > > HTH > > Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. > VP & Director of E-Commerce Development > Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. > t. 250.920.8830 > e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > - > Macromedia Associate Partner > www.macromedia.com > - > Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group > Founder & Director > www.cfug-vancouverisland.com > - Original Message - > From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:25 PM > Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > > > > >Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of junk mail. > > >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, ( like AOL > > >or hotmail, for instance) > > > > Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that has been in use > by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the > capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked by the mail > server admin. > > > > Sorry for the bad news, > > > > > > -- > > --- > > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com > > --- > > > > -- > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138370 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
There is at least 1 site out there that will verify if an e-mail address is real (I think it was something along the lines of www.verifymail.com). It isn't 100% accurate, but it sure beats just checking the address format. I would imagine that this kind of thing may be available via a webservice?? anyone? Bueller? HTH Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP & Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder & Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: Re: Verifying an email address exists > >Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of junk mail. > >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, ( like AOL > >or hotmail, for instance) > > Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that has been in use by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked by the mail server admin. > > Sorry for the bad news, > > > -- > --- > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com > --- > > -- > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138369 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 In the beginning ColdFusion shipped with Website. Both have only gotten better http://www.deerfield.com/products/website/
RE: How to convert an object to a string (XML)
That doesn't seem to work. It is printing out as either blank or null. Brian Use the ToString() function. Ben -Original Message- From: cf talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: How to convert an object to a string (XML) Hi all, I have been working with some XML files that are being sent to us. We were using a third party application to process them, but when we switched over to MX, it no longer works. I found out how to use the xmlparse function to work with my xml file. But after I do some processing to the data in the structure, I want to write it out to a file. When I do this, I am not getting the xml back. How do I convert the XML back to a string before I write it to the drive? Thanks! Brian Yager President - North Alabama Cold Fusion Users Group http://www.nacfug.com Ground-Based Midcourse Defense JPO Contractor CSC (256)313-9668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138368 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>And search for email validation. Hé hé, this one is interesting: I rapidly tested 3 addresses in messages received from this list and they are all valid. Tested 3 or 4 from virus I got, and they're all nonos ;-) Now I'd like to see how they're doing that and how to do it in CF... ;-/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138367 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of junk mail. >Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, ( like AOL >or hotmail, for instance) Then CF can't do this, and since this is a technique that has been in use by spammers for years to harvest email addresses, you will find the capability to respond to such a request is routinely blocked by the mail server admin. Sorry for the bad news, -- --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138366 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Verifying an email address exists
>>CFPOP can do that, but you need to be able to log in to the acct. Well, I can't and I do not want to log to the account. Actually, I was thinking of some tool to eleminate part of junk mail. Many spam messages come from addreses created on a server, ( like AOL or hotmail, for instance) just for the time it takes to send a bunch of messages, then they just vanish. I want to ckeck how many messages could just be destroyed just by checking if the sender's address exists. If you receive a message from an address that does not exist. chances are not far from 100% that it will not interest you ;-/ ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138365 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: RE: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
Use something like chr(7) - the bell.
- Original Message -
From: "Owens, Howard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:59 pm
Subject: RE: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
> OK, well ... I guess I need to change these delims before
> processing ... to
> something not likely to be in the text ... and that's the tough
> part ...
> hopefull "^" will work.
>
> H.
>
>
>
> ~~
> Howard Owens
> Internet Operations Coordinator
> Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co.
> www.venturacountystar.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AIM: GoCatGo1956
> ~~
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Barney Boisvert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:57 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject:RE: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
> >
> > the delimiter argument to the list functions is not a multicharacter
> > string,
> > it's a set of delimiter characters. So listGetAt(myList, 3,
> ">>") isn't
> > looking for the third item using ">>" as the delimiter, it's
> looking for
> > the
> > third item using ">" OR ">" as the delimiter. More clearly,
> > listGetAt(myList, 3, ";,") isn't looking for the third item
> using ";," as
> > the delimiter, it's looking for the third item using ";" OR ","
> as the
> > delimiter.
> >
> > listGetAt("i,like;cheese", 3, ";,") will return 'cheese'
> >
> > barneyb
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Owens, Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:48 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
Why not change it to something that can't be entered via keyboard like
chr(7) Bell.
Owens, Howard wrote:
>OK, well ... I guess I need to change these delims before processing ... to
>something not likely to be in the text ... and that's the tough part ...
>hopefull "^" will work.
>
>H.
>
>
>
>~~
>Howard Owens
>Internet Operations Coordinator
>Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co.
>www.venturacountystar.com
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>AIM: GoCatGo1956
>~~
>
>
>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Barney Boisvert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:57 PM
>>To: CF-Talk
>>Subject: RE: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
>>
>>the delimiter argument to the list functions is not a multicharacter
>>string,
>>it's a set of delimiter characters. So listGetAt(myList, 3, ">>") isn't
>>looking for the third item using ">>" as the delimiter, it's looking for
>>the
>>third item using ">" OR ">" as the delimiter. More clearly,
>>listGetAt(myList, 3, ";,") isn't looking for the third item using ";," as
>>the delimiter, it's looking for the third item using ";" OR "," as the
>>delimiter.
>>
>>listGetAt("i,like;cheese", 3, ";,") will return 'cheese'
>>
>>barneyb
>>
>>
>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:48 PM
>>>To: CF-Talk
>>>Subject: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
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RE: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
OK, well ... I guess I need to change these delims before processing ... to
something not likely to be in the text ... and that's the tough part ...
hopefull "^" will work.
H.
~~
Howard Owens
Internet Operations Coordinator
Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co.
www.venturacountystar.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
AIM: GoCatGo1956
~~
> -Original Message-
> From: Barney Boisvert [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
>
> the delimiter argument to the list functions is not a multicharacter
> string,
> it's a set of delimiter characters. So listGetAt(myList, 3, ">>") isn't
> looking for the third item using ">>" as the delimiter, it's looking for
> the
> third item using ">" OR ">" as the delimiter. More clearly,
> listGetAt(myList, 3, ";,") isn't looking for the third item using ";," as
> the delimiter, it's looking for the third item using ";" OR "," as the
> delimiter.
>
> listGetAt("i,like;cheese", 3, ";,") will return 'cheese'
>
> barneyb
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:48 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
> >
> >
>
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RE: Auto Pinging Script?
There's also a site out there (and I too lost all my bookmarks) that gives you historical "up" reports on any domain you ask it to monitor. It will tell you the last time the server was rebooted, what os and server its running, and how often it's been rebooted. I think it even tells you how long it was down for if it's down. If I can find the site again, I'll pass along the url. H. ~~ Howard Owens Internet Operations Coordinator Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co. www.venturacountystar.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: GoCatGo1956 ~~ > -Original Message- > From: cfhelp [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:52 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? > > I lost my bookmarks but I had a really cool Whois and trace-route website > that showed all the sites hosted on a server. That may be some help in > evaluating a host. > > Anyone know of it or another? > > Rick > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138361 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
the delimiter argument to the list functions is not a multicharacter string,
it's a set of delimiter characters. So listGetAt(myList, 3, ">>") isn't
looking for the third item using ">>" as the delimiter, it's looking for the
third item using ">" OR ">" as the delimiter. More clearly,
listGetAt(myList, 3, ";,") isn't looking for the third item using ";," as
the delimiter, it's looking for the third item using ";" OR "," as the
delimiter.
listGetAt("i,like;cheese", 3, ";,") will return 'cheese'
barneyb
> -Original Message-
> From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:48 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
>
>
> I have this file that I'm sucking into a database. I'm treating each line
> as a list. The delimiters (out of my contro) are ">>".
>
> Here's a sample line:
>
> 1405 >> 09-17-2003 >> Mike Keys Re-Spray/Painted/Removed Water/Smoke/Crack
> Damage. Wall Repair/Texturing Free Estimate - Lic.#416345 r
> (805)659-6356 r
> r (805)494-1915 rSRC="http://web.insidevc.com/classified/logos/6596356.jpg";> >>
> 619620
>
> This particular line is choaking the thing. It wants to read the text
> starting with the image tag as the fourth element in the list,
> which creates
> a bad SQL query. I can't see what is causing this. Do you?
>
> Here's the list code:
>
> >")#">
> >")#">
> >")#">
> >")#">
>
>
>
> H.
>
>
>
> ~~
> Howard Owens
> Internet Operations Coordinator
> Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co.
> www.venturacountystar.com
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> AIM: GoCatGo1956
> ~~
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Claude Schneegans [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:57 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject:Verifying an email address exists
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address
> > actually exists?
> > I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to
> a true mail
> > box in a true server.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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RE: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries
FYI, I posted this BEFORE I saw Dustin's say there were 6000 emails in his list! Yikes! -Original Message- From: J E VanOver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:33 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries What if there's an email in your system that looks something like this: "My True and Right Name <@.>" Actually, I think your "like" statement would even match "@." If it were me, I'd dump out the email addresses and see if anything looks screwy. -Original Message- From: Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries Another note - I also, tried: and email like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Still get the error below. Isn't it impossible then with this in my query that any records could be included that have 0 length in the email field as the error states? Dustin Snell - Original Message - From: "Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries > Hello All, > > I am trying to use CFMAIL in 6.1 to email a large list that worked in CF > 4.5. Apparently MM has added additional restrictions to what can be used in > the TO parameter. > > Basically I have a query that gets about 6000+ records > > I then use the tag as such: > > query="sendnewsletter" >to="#sendnewsletter.email#" >mailerid="Unisyn Software Newsletter System -- http://www.unisyn.com"; >from="Unisyn Newsletter System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" >subject="#form.subject#">#form.body# > > > In the query I have specified: > and email is not null and email <> '' and email like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > But it always gives the error: > > Attribute validation error for tag CFMAIL. > The value of the attribute TO is invalid. The length of the string, 0 > character(s), must be greater than or equal to 1 character(s). > > The error occurred in > C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\unisyn\administration\emailnewsletter.cfm: line 107 > > 105 :106 :query="sendnewsletter" > 107 :to="#sendnewsletter.email#" > 108 :mailerid="Unisyn Software Newsletter System -- > http://www.unisyn.com"; > 109 :from="Unisyn Newsletter System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > > Does anyone know why this isn't working? > > -Dustin Snell > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138359 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Maybe You'll See Something I Don't
I have this file that I'm sucking into a database. I'm treating each line as a list. The delimiters (out of my contro) are ">>". Here's a sample line: 1405 >> 09-17-2003 >> Mike Keys Re-Spray/Painted/Removed Water/Smoke/Crack Damage. Wall Repair/Texturing Free Estimate - Lic.#416345 r (805)659-6356 r r (805)494-1915 r http://web.insidevc.com/classified/logos/6596356.jpg";> >> 619620 This particular line is choaking the thing. It wants to read the text starting with the image tag as the fourth element in the list, which creates a bad SQL query. I can't see what is causing this. Do you? Here's the list code: >")#"> >")#"> >")#"> >")#"> H. ~~ Howard Owens Internet Operations Coordinator Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co. www.venturacountystar.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: GoCatGo1956 ~~ > -Original Message- > From: Claude Schneegans [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:57 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Verifying an email address exists > > Hi, > > I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address > actually exists? > I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to a true mail > box in a true server. > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138358 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
I lost my bookmarks but I had a really cool Whois and trace-route website that showed all the sites hosted on a server. That may be some help in evaluating a host. Anyone know of it or another? Rick -Original Message- From: Suyer, Ed [PRD Non-J&J] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:59 PM To: CF-Talk Nick, Legal issues aside, I'm not sure that this test will give you any type of *real* performance stats. There are too many uncontrolable network related factors involved that have nothing to do w/ an ISP's performance. If you want to compare the bandwith of one ISP to another, I would simply ask them what type of pipe they have connecting them to the Internet. And who their carrier is. Also how many other sites are to be hosted on the same server is yours. Or ping this list for satisfied customers ... the topic of web hosting goes around about once / month. HTH - Original Message - From: "Nick Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: Auto Pinging Script? | We need to evaluate the performance of some CF hosting services. One angle | I would like to try is to setup an automatic pinging script and ping sample | domains hosted by the hosting services at intervals over a period. Note: I | am aware that pinging is often used for denial of service, but that is not | what this is about. | | Any ideas or suggestions? Maybe a script or a Web site that provides this | service? | | Thanks, | | Nick | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138357 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Multilingual site?
>>no translation occurs. the latin-1 (ISO-8859-1) char set is a part, i guess the very first part, of unicode. Of Unicode, yes, but remember: there is NO Unicode on Internet, only UTF-8 and UTF-8 is a method to encode 16 bits character using several 8 bits characters, (up to 6 actually). Only US-ASCII chars from 0 to 127 are represented as one byte, so UTF-8 is transparent for ASCII only. All chars from 128 to 255 used in French or other European languages will take 2 bytes, which is unnecessary if you need only languages supported by 256 character sets. >>why would you want that? I mean produce a page in standard latin-1 character set, not UTF-8 >>for starters latin-1 has no euro symbol. Personally I can leave without that, and I think it is still possible to get Unicode characters separately using appropriate code. >>it also nails your application's feet to western europe Of course, but I was thinking of application that only use these languages. >>in any case, use setEncoding/cfcontent in application.cfm and cfprocessingdirective on each page to handle your page encoding. Ah ah! This is it. Pardon me, but I'm still just running some tests on CFMX and I've not been through the whole documentation yet. I don't know how the situation is now, but about 2 years ago I made some research about UTF-8 in order to enhance an application to support Chinese + Arabic + Russian. At that time I encountered several problems with some browsers, in particular NT4 to support Unicode fonts: the user was requested to download hudge font files (about 32 megs), and the display was simply horrible. NT4 is not a significative player any more, and Unicode fonts are more or less standard I suppose. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138356 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries
What if there's an email in your system that looks something like this: "My True and Right Name <@.>" Actually, I think your "like" statement would even match "@." If it were me, I'd dump out the email addresses and see if anything looks screwy. -Original Message- From: Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries Another note - I also, tried: and email like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Still get the error below. Isn't it impossible then with this in my query that any records could be included that have 0 length in the email field as the error states? Dustin Snell - Original Message - From: "Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:34 AM Subject: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries > Hello All, > > I am trying to use CFMAIL in 6.1 to email a large list that worked in CF > 4.5. Apparently MM has added additional restrictions to what can be used in > the TO parameter. > > Basically I have a query that gets about 6000+ records > > I then use the tag as such: > > query="sendnewsletter" >to="#sendnewsletter.email#" >mailerid="Unisyn Software Newsletter System -- http://www.unisyn.com"; >from="Unisyn Newsletter System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" >subject="#form.subject#">#form.body# > > > In the query I have specified: > and email is not null and email <> '' and email like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > > > But it always gives the error: > > Attribute validation error for tag CFMAIL. > The value of the attribute TO is invalid. The length of the string, 0 > character(s), must be greater than or equal to 1 character(s). > > The error occurred in > C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\unisyn\administration\emailnewsletter.cfm: line 107 > > 105 :106 :query="sendnewsletter" > 107 :to="#sendnewsletter.email#" > 108 :mailerid="Unisyn Software Newsletter System -- > http://www.unisyn.com"; > 109 :from="Unisyn Newsletter System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" > > Does anyone know why this isn't working? > > -Dustin Snell > > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138355 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 In the beginning ColdFusion shipped with Website. Both have only gotten better http://www.deerfield.com/products/website/
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RE: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries
No it wouldn't Matt. In his original post, Dustin showed he was trying to use the QUERY parameter of CFMAIL --- where there is no chance to check each row before using it. -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:48 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries Well, at least you now know the source of the problem, and that its solution is a simple one. Not a true solution, but it'll get your app running instantly while you puzzle over the cause. Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Auto Pinging Script?
Nick, Legal issues aside, I'm not sure that this test will give you any type of *real* performance stats. There are too many uncontrolable network related factors involved that have nothing to do w/ an ISP's performance. If you want to compare the bandwith of one ISP to another, I would simply ask them what type of pipe they have connecting them to the Internet. And who their carrier is. Also how many other sites are to be hosted on the same server is yours. Or ping this list for satisfied customers ... the topic of web hosting goes around about once / month. HTH - Original Message - From: "Nick Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: Auto Pinging Script? | We need to evaluate the performance of some CF hosting services. One angle | I would like to try is to setup an automatic pinging script and ping sample | domains hosted by the hosting services at intervals over a period. Note: I | am aware that pinging is often used for denial of service, but that is not | what this is about. | | Any ideas or suggestions? Maybe a script or a Web site that provides this | service? | | Thanks, | | Nick | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138352 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
WOW! That is really aggressive, if that is fully automated. I would hate to guess how many emails to ISPs and Law Enforcement my server would be generating, if I used you system. My software firewall logs all pings, and there are lots of them, on the 15-20 IPs I have on the server. Mark W. Breneman -Cold Fusion Developer -Network Administrator Vivid Media [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.vividmedia.com 608.270.9770 -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? You do this on my domain(s) and on the sixth ping you would be locked out of access to the system, and on the 15th ping, you would be reported to your ISP in the hopes of getting your service terminated, with additional reports to your ISP periodically thereafter, and then followed by a complaint filed with appropriate Law Enforcement. You see, there are much better ways of evaluating a service provider than what could be considered a DDOS or intrusion attempt. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Nick Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: Auto Pinging Script? | We need to evaluate the performance of some CF hosting services. One angle | I would like to try is to setup an automatic pinging script and ping sample | domains hosted by the hosting services at intervals over a period. Note: I | am aware that pinging is often used for denial of service, but that is not | what this is about. | | Any ideas or suggestions? Maybe a script or a Web site that provides this | service? | | Thanks, | | Nick | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138351 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Again, you are mis-interpreting what we do. We do not block clients. neither email or access to their web sites, nor do we prevent their monitoring it to track up-time. None of our blocking is ever directed at clients. That would really be stupid. I read the original post to mean that the person wanted to monitor ALL CF hosts by pinging them whether he was a customer or not and certainly without permission. This is what I objected to, We readily assist customers in monitoring their web sites, and other than spam filtering (on request) and anti-virus scanning, their email is never delayed at all. I am pleased that my clients are really pleased with their service, and have made the effort to comment about it on the Forta web site. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "cfhelp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:48 PM Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? | Dude that is so (_!_) | | What is the name of your company so I never refer or sign up a client with | them. | | I would hate to find out you blocked email or other service from getting | through to your clients (or someone else's) just because someone used PING. | Lots of program use PING to test for server connection and so do techs just | doing routine troubleshooting. | | Oh and it wouldn't be PING 6 times, you would only have to start the ping | program twice to be locked out and just over 4 times to be reported. | | That is a poor thought out policy that will do nothing buy jam up the | judicial system and piss a lot of clients off if carried through. | | Rick | | -Original Message- | From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:19 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | | You do this on my domain(s) and on the sixth ping you would be locked out of | access to the system, and on the 15th ping, you would be reported to your | ISP in | the hopes of getting your service terminated, with additional reports to | your | ISP periodically thereafter, and then followed by a complaint filed with | appropriate Law Enforcement. | | You see, there are much better ways of evaluating a service provider than | what | could be considered a DDOS or intrusion attempt. | | == | Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. | ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 | Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf | == | If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | | - Original Message - | From: "Nick Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:10 AM | Subject: Auto Pinging Script? | | | | We need to evaluate the performance of some CF hosting services. One angle | | I would like to try is to setup an automatic pinging script and ping | sample | | domains hosted by the hosting services at intervals over a period. Note: I | | am aware that pinging is often used for denial of service, but that is not | | what this is about. | | | | Any ideas or suggestions? Maybe a script or a Web site that provides this | | service? | | | | Thanks, | | | | Nick | | | | | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138350 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://affiliates.macromedia.com/t.asp?id=2439&p=go/dr_text_aff1
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
It looks like the number was HB1282. The text does not mention ping at all. It is all about unsolicited commercial (advertising) email. Text of Bill: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/cgi-bin/tlo/textframe.cmd?LEG=78&SESS=R&CHAMBER=H&BILLTYPE=B&BILLSUFFIX=01282&VERSION=5&TYPE=B A good article from the Texas Bar: http://www.texasbar.com/globals/tbj/2003/sept/spam.asp And I will now stop before Mike tells me to move it to CF-LAW. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/03 05:27PM >>> SB186 is the Texas Anti-spam statutes, The mail issue is California. I just read that in a newsletter from the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation.) http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/24/california.spam.ap/index.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/24/tech/main574891.shtml http://www.spamlaws.com/state/ca1.html == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | Honest Doug, I'm not trying to pick on you today, but: | | The law (SB 186) requires "ADV" to be in the subject line. Do that and you're free/clear. Also, opt-in mailings are exempt, so an ongoing relationship is protected so long as it was established properly (expect a lot of wiggling on that one). | | I'd love to see them enforce this, but... | | Google "California Anti Spam law" for several news reports on this. | | | -- | --- | Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | --- | | -- | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138349 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
Dude that is so (_!_) What is the name of your company so I never refer or sign up a client with them. I would hate to find out you blocked email or other service from getting through to your clients (or someone else's) just because someone used PING. Lots of program use PING to test for server connection and so do techs just doing routine troubleshooting. Oh and it wouldn't be PING 6 times, you would only have to start the ping program twice to be locked out and just over 4 times to be reported. That is a poor thought out policy that will do nothing buy jam up the judicial system and piss a lot of clients off if carried through. Rick -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? You do this on my domain(s) and on the sixth ping you would be locked out of access to the system, and on the 15th ping, you would be reported to your ISP in the hopes of getting your service terminated, with additional reports to your ISP periodically thereafter, and then followed by a complaint filed with appropriate Law Enforcement. You see, there are much better ways of evaluating a service provider than what could be considered a DDOS or intrusion attempt. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Nick Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:10 AM Subject: Auto Pinging Script? | We need to evaluate the performance of some CF hosting services. One angle | I would like to try is to setup an automatic pinging script and ping sample | domains hosted by the hosting services at intervals over a period. Note: I | am aware that pinging is often used for denial of service, but that is not | what this is about. | | Any ideas or suggestions? Maybe a script or a Web site that provides this | service? | | Thanks, | | Nick | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138348 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Dupes From List
Check your rules if you're in outlook. They sometimes get funky. -Original Message- From: Chris Montgomery [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:28 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Dupes From List Howdy, Anyone else receiving dupes on this list? Since switching to text-only format yesterday, I'm getting two copies of every message. Even unsubscribed and re-subscribed. Regards. -- Chris Montgomery Airtight Web Services http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-2415 OpenOffice.org 1.1 Works Great! Costs Less ;-) http://www.openoffice.org ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138347 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
SB186 is the Texas Anti-spam statutes, The mail issue is California. I just read that in a newsletter from the EFF (Electronic Frontier Foundation.) http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/internet/09/24/california.spam.ap/index.html http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/09/24/tech/main574891.shtml http://www.spamlaws.com/state/ca1.html == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:21 PM Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | Honest Doug, I'm not trying to pick on you today, but: | | The law (SB 186) requires "ADV" to be in the subject line. Do that and you're free/clear. Also, opt-in mailings are exempt, so an ongoing relationship is protected so long as it was established properly (expect a lot of wiggling on that one). | | I'd love to see them enforce this, but... | | Google "California Anti Spam law" for several news reports on this. | | | -- | --- | Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | --- | | -- | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138346 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Whoops! My bad. Correction on the ADV bit. No dice there. But the opt-in part is correct. The idea was to protect small CA businesses doing internet commerce. --Matt-- -- --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138345 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 In the beginning ColdFusion shipped with Website. Both have only gotten better http://www.deerfield.com/products/website/
OT: Dupes From List
Howdy, Anyone else receiving dupes on this list? Since switching to text-only format yesterday, I'm getting two copies of every message. Even unsubscribed and re-subscribed. Regards. -- Chris Montgomery Airtight Web Services http://www.airtightweb.com Web Development, Web Project Management, Software Sales 210-490-2415 OpenOffice.org 1.1 Works Great! Costs Less ;-) http://www.openoffice.org ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138344 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Does anyone know what law in TX we are talking about? I haven't found anything obvious from a list of 9/1 effective bills. Looking here:http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlo/reports/daily/78R/eff0901_summary.htm Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/24/03 05:21PM >>> Honest Doug, I'm not trying to pick on you today, but: The law (SB 186) requires "ADV" to be in the subject line. Do that and you're free/clear. Also, opt-in mailings are exempt, so an ongoing relationship is protected so long as it was established properly (expect a lot of wiggling on that one). I'd love to see them enforce this, but... Google "California Anti Spam law" for several news reports on this. -- --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138343 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Verifying an email address exists
yes there is - will get you a link == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Verifying an email address exists | Hi, | | I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address actually exists? | I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to a true mail box in a true server. | | | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138342 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Honest Doug, I'm not trying to pick on you today, but: The law (SB 186) requires "ADV" to be in the subject line. Do that and you're free/clear. Also, opt-in mailings are exempt, so an ongoing relationship is protected so long as it was established properly (expect a lot of wiggling on that one). I'd love to see them enforce this, but... Google "California Anti Spam law" for several news reports on this. -- --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138341 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
CFPOP can do that, but you need to be able to log in to the acct. Also, just trawling a server for valid email names isn't something a smart admin will allow. I shut off this capability and I suspect its off on most others. -- Original Message -- From: Claude Schneegans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2003 16:57:06 -0400 Hi, I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address actually exists? I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to a true mail box in a true server. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138340 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Verifying an email address exists
There used to be (VRFY SMTP command) but SPAMMERS have forced mail server admins and software developers to prevent verification (to prevent email harvesting). The best you can do is an MX lookup on the domain of the email address (we have a freeware tag on our site that does this) to see if the domain has one or more mail servers designated. Other than that all you can do is connect to the smtp server and issue the following commands: helo mail from: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> rcpt to: This will let you know if the email server will accept mail to the email address but not whether the email address is valid (many email servers accept mail to bad accounts and then bounce the mail later). HTH, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server ((())) PrismAV is Coming ((())) >>> Please vote for iMS here: >>> http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/readerschoice2003/index.cfm >>> Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: >>> http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm - Original Message - From: "Claude Schneegans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:57 PM Subject: Verifying an email address exists > Hi, > > I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address actually > exists? > I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to a true mail box in a > true server. > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138339 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
> Your scenario would make it a crime for me to monitor the content of a web page, determine whether it has changed and send a notice if a change has occurred. Again, a reasonable and ethical activity widely performed. This is important for me to be clear on as well. I have a desktop app that I'm in the process of converting to a CFC web service in my spare time that hits a web site looking for a specific bit of information. The web site it's looking at is not one of mine, it's just out on the web. Is what I'm doing any different than a person looking at the web page directly? Does it make a difference how many clients I distribute that call this web service? Also, does a law like this make search engine spiders illegal? -Kevin ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138338 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Verifying an email address exists
There are several web services that do this. Check out: http://www.xmethods.com/ And search for email validation. -Original Message- From: Claude Schneegans [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Verifying an email address exists Hi, I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address actually exists? I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to a true mail box in a true server. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138337 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Payment Online
Hi All, Has anyone here used the Credit Card and/or Recurring Billing gateway from Payment Online (www.paymentonline.com)? If so please let me know. I am having a devil of a time sending information, specifically charge amounts, to them and their documentation seems to be pretty sparse. TIA, Duane Boudreau ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138336 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Not a crime if it is your web site, or you were hired by the web site owner to monitor it for them. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:49 PM Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | Doug White wrote: | >To ping networks you have no relationship with on a repeated basis, no | >matter the interval, is definitely a crime here in Texas, as of | >September 1, 2003 | | I don't think so as that definition ignores the concept of intent, but neither of our opinions mean anything. I have a call in to Mary Vincent, the Coordinator for Consumer Protection at the Texas AG's office. I've been slowly walking up the ladder there for awhile now and they're looking this up for me. | | Your scenario would make it a crime for me to monitor the content of a web page, determine whether it has changed and send a notice if a change has occurred. Again, a reasonable and ethical activity widely performed. | | | | -- | --- | Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | --- | | -- | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138335 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Extreme? I guess it is, but look at the extreme law just signed into law in California. It is now unlawful to send unsolicited commercial email to anyone in California , regardless of whether how it is classified, has " ADV" in the subject, or even if the sender has an established relationship with the recipient. Now that is extreme, and I am sure is the result of so many abuses. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Ben Densmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? | So how does that affect someone that would ping your network that is not | in Texas? I think that is a bit extreme to say you're going to jail or | going to pay a fine because you pinged our network x amount of times. | | Ben | | -Original Message- | From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:23 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | | Your key word is "paying customers"To ping networks you have no | relationship | with on a repeated basis, no matter the interval, is definitely a crime | here in | Texas, as of September 1, 2003 | | == | Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. | ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 | Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: | http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf | == | If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | | - Original Message - | From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:18 PM | Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? | | | | Doug, one page hit every 5 minutes is not a crime, nor will it draw | any | | notice from law enforcement. | | | | Again, monitoring a server for uptime at a responsible interval is | | entirely legal. Its done all the time, every day, by well-established | | corporations dedicated to doing just that and that only for paying | | customers. To assert otherwise ignores this reality. | | | | | | Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | | | | | | | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138334 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Verifying an email address exists
Hi, I'd like to know if there exists any method to check if an email address actually exists? I mean not only be syntactically valid, but does correspond to a true mail box in a true server. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138333 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
== Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Ben Densmore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:28 PM Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? | So how does that affect someone that would ping your network that is not | in Texas? I think that is a bit extreme to say you're going to jail or | going to pay a fine because you pinged our network x amount of times. | | Ben | | -Original Message- | From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:23 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | | Your key word is "paying customers"To ping networks you have no | relationship | with on a repeated basis, no matter the interval, is definitely a crime | here in | Texas, as of September 1, 2003 | | == | Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! | For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com | Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. | ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 | Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: | http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf | == | If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! | | - Original Message - | From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:18 PM | Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? | | | | Doug, one page hit every 5 minutes is not a crime, nor will it draw | any | | notice from law enforcement. | | | | Again, monitoring a server for uptime at a responsible interval is | | entirely legal. Its done all the time, every day, by well-established | | corporations dedicated to doing just that and that only for paying | | customers. To assert otherwise ignores this reality. | | | | | | Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | | | | | | | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138332 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
Ben Densmore wrote >Maybe you should rewrite all the lyrics to that song and record it Noo :-D -- --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138331 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
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RE: Auto Pinging Script?
LOL, Maybe you should rewrite all the lyrics to that song and record it ;-) Ben -Original Message- From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:51 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? There I was completely wasted, pinging a texas town all inside it's so frustrating as the packets go down feel as though nobody cares which netmask I'm on so I might as well begin to put some action in my line Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Ben Densmore wrote: >So how does that affect someone that would ping your network that is not >in Texas? I think that is a bit extreme to say you're going to jail or >going to pay a fine because you pinged our network x amount of times. > >Ben > >-Original Message- >From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:23 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? > >Your key word is "paying customers"To ping networks you have no >relationship >with on a repeated basis, no matter the interval, is definitely a crime >here in >Texas, as of September 1, 2003 > >== >Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! >For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com >Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. >ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 >Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: >http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf >== >If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > >- Original Message - >From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:18 PM >Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? > > >| Doug, one page hit every 5 minutes is not a crime, nor will it draw >any >| notice from law enforcement. >| >| Again, monitoring a server for uptime at a responsible interval is >| entirely legal. Its done all the time, every day, by well-established >| corporations dedicated to doing just that and that only for paying >| customers. To assert otherwise ignores this reality. >| >| >| Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] >| MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com >| >| >| > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138329 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
There I was completely wasted, pinging a texas town all inside it's so frustrating as the packets go down feel as though nobody cares which netmask I'm on so I might as well begin to put some action in my line Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Breaking the law, breaking the law Ben Densmore wrote: >So how does that affect someone that would ping your network that is not >in Texas? I think that is a bit extreme to say you're going to jail or >going to pay a fine because you pinged our network x amount of times. > >Ben > >-Original Message- >From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:23 PM >To: CF-Talk >Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? > >Your key word is "paying customers"To ping networks you have no >relationship >with on a repeated basis, no matter the interval, is definitely a crime >here in >Texas, as of September 1, 2003 > >== >Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! >For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com >Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. >ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 >Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: >http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf >== >If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! > >- Original Message - >From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:18 PM >Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? > > >| Doug, one page hit every 5 minutes is not a crime, nor will it draw >any >| notice from law enforcement. >| >| Again, monitoring a server for uptime at a responsible interval is >| entirely legal. Its done all the time, every day, by well-established >| corporations dedicated to doing just that and that only for paying >| customers. To assert otherwise ignores this reality. >| >| >| Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] >| MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com >| >| >| > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138328 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
What I want to know is if they capture the packet's...do they sending them to the electric chair? :) I can see how Doug's strategy could be extremely effective... Personally I'd set it a few notches higher, but there are definitely times when we have been under DOS attack that I wished we had something like that set up. It could make a mess of the deny list though if under a big DDOS attack though, and the router is going to get overloaded either way as the deny list gets larger and larger, but I'm sure these problems could be overcome. I wonder if the wording of the law makes stuff like ARP packets from an ISP into a clients network illegal...knowing how technical legislators are I wouldn't doubt it. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 4:28:25 PM, you wrote: BD> So how does that affect someone that would ping your network that is not BD> in Texas? I think that is a bit extreme to say you're going to jail or BD> going to pay a fine because you pinged our network x amount of times. BD> Ben ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138327 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Doug White wrote: >To ping networks you have no relationship with on a repeated basis, no >matter the interval, is definitely a crime here in Texas, as of >September 1, 2003 I don't think so as that definition ignores the concept of intent, but neither of our opinions mean anything. I have a call in to Mary Vincent, the Coordinator for Consumer Protection at the Texas AG's office. I've been slowly walking up the ladder there for awhile now and they're looking this up for me. Your scenario would make it a crime for me to monitor the content of a web page, determine whether it has changed and send a notice if a change has occurred. Again, a reasonable and ethical activity widely performed. -- --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138326 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
I think you are getting off track, or I misunderstood the purpose of your original post. Of course a customer/client can set up whatever software they wish to monitor server uptime, in face we will furnish code for that to the client at no extra charge. It is very easy to set up with a CFC and CFSchedule. I had previously qualified my statement as defining the pings coming from someone with whom we had no relationship. In fact I run server monitoring software on my network myself. If I am hosting your web site, then you would be entitled to know about your up time, even if you did not want to wait for the daily statistical report sent to you every day anyway. The example you give would not apply to the scenario I painted, because they are obviously customers/clients. You would likewise be entitled to pop your mail, send mail, or whatever service you were being provided. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "John Paul Ashenfelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:16 PM Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | > As for someone saying the attacking a network not under your control is | ethical | > and Legal, I will remind that person that this system is in Texas, and we | have | > statutes making the practice illegal, and subject to substantial fines. | Put | > that together with an Attorney General who is enthusiastic about | prosecuting | > computer crimes. | | Wow. So do you filter folks using Outlook that do an SMTP get every minute | or so with the default settings in Office 2k/xp? Are they *attacking* you as | well? Frequent web hits from the same client? Not clear from your site how | you bill, but industry standard is either 95% peak usage or total GB per | month. If I'm paying for traffic, you shouldn't care what it is, as long as | it's legal. | | It comes down to what's an attack. I'd have trouble understanding six pings | being an attack -- many small businesses (same folks who use shared servers | and lots of your customers, right?) use 1 IP address and NAT it. Try this | scenario | | "Bob, I can't ping the server. Can you try Sue?". | "No luck here Bill, I'll try it from the server". | "alright, i'll try it again though. | "Nope, that's not it either, I'll try it from the router/pix/whatever". | "Ok, now I have to call support to see what's up " | "Yes sir, I understand you're having a problem. Oh -- you were attacking our | server and we turned you off". | | Not very customer-centric. And I bet you'd have trouble defending that in | court under that Texas law though I'm not familiar with Texas statutes, | but I am with Virginia's -- and we're the Silicon Dominion so there's quite | a few hi-tech laws. But redalert.com (now part of Keynote now) isn't | violating any laws as far as "attacking" sites. | | No question Welchia violated laws, but there's a big difference between | Welchia pinging you and a *customer* monitoring the site they pay you for. | I'm the first person to say monitor the service you really need to | monitor -- eg HTTP if it's web, SMTP if it's outbound mail, etc. Personally | I'm a big fan of nagios and most every service provider I've ever dealt with | had at least MRTG running internally to provide a window into uptime. That | said, I still start with a ping when someone tells me we have a problem. | | > Like it or not, unnecessary internet traffic is just that, unnecessary. | So get | > a real job. | | Who judges what's "unnecessary"? All that graphic crap, flash, etc all get | in the way of the text content. It's sort of unnecessary so just filter it | out too? And the stupid stuff -- let's get rid of that. No more Survivor fan | sites. And none of these useless newsgroups :) | | Welchia was nasty, but a block on the appropriate RPC ports at the perimeter | routers and a little proactive monitoring of the syslog for scanning pings | is plenty to protect you. It's not *that* hard to write a perl script that's | a little more forgiving. We share space with Crutchfield and a couple other | large regional companies and had no issues other than general slowness from | the *rest* of world, particularly Adelphia which handled everything pretty | darn poorly. | | Regards, | | John Paul Ashenfelter | CTO/Transitionpoint | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138325 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/list
Re: How to convert an object to a string (XML)
Have you tried using CFSAVECONTENT for this? Drop the XML object into a variable, then put that variable into the CFFILE tag? - Jim cf talk wrote: >Hi all, > >I have been working with some XML files that are being sent to us. We were using a >third party application to process them, but when we switched over to MX, it no >longer works. I found out how to use the xmlparse function to work with my xml file. > But after I do some processing to the data in the structure, I want to write it out >to a file. When I do this, I am not getting the xml back. How do I convert the XML >back to a string before I write it to the drive? > > >Thanks! > >Brian Yager >President - North Alabama >Cold Fusion Users Group >http://www.nacfug.com >Ground-Based Midcourse Defense JPO >Contractor CSC >(256)313-9668 >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138324 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: How to convert an object to a string (XML)
Use the ToString() function. Ben -Original Message- From: cf talk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: How to convert an object to a string (XML) Hi all, I have been working with some XML files that are being sent to us. We were using a third party application to process them, but when we switched over to MX, it no longer works. I found out how to use the xmlparse function to work with my xml file. But after I do some processing to the data in the structure, I want to write it out to a file. When I do this, I am not getting the xml back. How do I convert the XML back to a string before I write it to the drive? Thanks! Brian Yager President - North Alabama Cold Fusion Users Group http://www.nacfug.com Ground-Based Midcourse Defense JPO Contractor CSC (256)313-9668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138323 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: SQL regex select
You can do it (in MSSQL) but it won't be RegEx per se. You can have the wildcard
"rules" in the db, and do something like this:
SELECT *
FROM Email_Rules
WHERE ('[EMAIL PROTECTED]' LIKE Rule_To_Check)
In this case, Rule_To_Check would be a field that contains entries like:
Rule_To_Check
-
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
But, you are limited to the wildcard characters that LIKE requires:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/tsqlref/ts_la-lz_115x.asp?frame=true
I also don't know how fast this would be.. Though it does work; just tested it.
HTH
-Ryan
-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: SQL regex select
Yes, that's what I'm trying to do. This has to do with an idea for email processing
via iMS/FusionMail where certain records are required for different users or entire
domains. For example, I may want to have a template called for every mail going to
coolfusion.com. In my table I would have a rule labeled as [EMAIL PROTECTED] and then
any email to that domain would use that rule.
Thanks,
Howie
- Original Message -
From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: SQL regex select
> Howie Hamlin wrote:
> > I have an application where I want to select rows from a table where
> > the rows match according to a simple regex. For example, say I have
> > the word "tiger" - I would want to select rows with values like:
> >
> > t*
> > *
> > ?
> > tiger
> > t??er
>
> So let me get this straight. You have the string in your application,
> and you have regex patterns stored in the database, and now you want
> to know which patterns match the supplied string?
>
> BTW, SQL:1999 doesn't do normal regex matchng, so you need to specify
> which dialect your RDBMS uses (and * is not a valid regex pattern).
>
> Jochem
>
>
>
>
>
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How to convert an object to a string (XML)
Hi all, I have been working with some XML files that are being sent to us. We were using a third party application to process them, but when we switched over to MX, it no longer works. I found out how to use the xmlparse function to work with my xml file. But after I do some processing to the data in the structure, I want to write it out to a file. When I do this, I am not getting the xml back. How do I convert the XML back to a string before I write it to the drive? Thanks! Brian Yager President - North Alabama Cold Fusion Users Group http://www.nacfug.com Ground-Based Midcourse Defense JPO Contractor CSC (256)313-9668 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138321 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Purchase from House of Fusion, a Macromedia Authorized Affiliate and support the CF community. http://affiliates.macromedia.com/t.asp?id=2439&p=go/dr_text_aff1
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
So how does that affect someone that would ping your network that is not in Texas? I think that is a bit extreme to say you're going to jail or going to pay a fine because you pinged our network x amount of times. Ben -Original Message- From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:23 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? Your key word is "paying customers"To ping networks you have no relationship with on a repeated basis, no matter the interval, is definitely a crime here in Texas, as of September 1, 2003 == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? | Doug, one page hit every 5 minutes is not a crime, nor will it draw any | notice from law enforcement. | | Again, monitoring a server for uptime at a responsible interval is | entirely legal. Its done all the time, every day, by well-established | corporations dedicated to doing just that and that only for paying | customers. To assert otherwise ignores this reality. | | | Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138320 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
Your key word is "paying customers"To ping networks you have no relationship with on a repeated basis, no matter the interval, is definitely a crime here in Texas, as of September 1, 2003 == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:18 PM Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? | Doug, one page hit every 5 minutes is not a crime, nor will it draw any | notice from law enforcement. | | Again, monitoring a server for uptime at a responsible interval is | entirely legal. Its done all the time, every day, by well-established | corporations dedicated to doing just that and that only for paying | customers. To assert otherwise ignores this reality. | | | Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com | | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138319 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
It's not CF, so there's a bit of learning curve, but nagios is a great open source monitoring tool. http://www.nagios.org/. There's commercial support to help get it running, but it's rock solid, free, and runs great from a DSL connection. We've got a few customers that asked us to put in Nagios (well, they said monitoring and we chose nagios) and we asked *them* if we can use their Nagios install to monitor other sites, so we now have a number of different Nagios monitors on different service providers that monitor each other and report back to our central console as well -- so we can get confirmation of any outage from multiple sources. All free. All scalable. And not that hard to figure out. There's other tools too -- cricket, umm, netsaint, few others. Nagios seems to be the current leader. That said, I've used SitePeeker for a couple of quick and dirty projects before I learned Nagios and it worked just fine. But Nagios will let you monitor any port, let you run transactions, let's you escalate notification of folks, etc. Great tool. The open source equivalent in many ways to WhatsUp! (which I love, but is about $750/site vs $0 for Nagios) Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Matt Robertson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: RE: Auto Pinging Script? > Thane Sherington wrote: > >What do you use as your "good" server to test from? > > For about the last 1 1/2 to 2 years I have used my home DSL connection, on which I am running a full licensed copy of CF. Otherwise the cheapest way to do it is to get a cheapie hosting acct that lets you use cfschedule, or will schedule the tag call for you. > > I used Intermedia until I got home DSL. I talked with one of their owners before signing up and they were perfectly fine with the use I was putting the acct to. > > RedAlert wants US$115.95 per month for a 4-target, 5-minute interval monitor. Netwhistle wants US$140 and apparently can't do POP/SMTP testing. Intermedia cost me US$30 monthly. My sealed copy of CF cost me US$235 on Ebay. > > SitePeeker does everything I want it to. If you can think of anything else you want let me know. Haven't upgraded it in awhile. > > > -- > --- > Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com > --- > > -- > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138318 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
> As for someone saying the attacking a network not under your control is ethical > and Legal, I will remind that person that this system is in Texas, and we have > statutes making the practice illegal, and subject to substantial fines. Put > that together with an Attorney General who is enthusiastic about prosecuting > computer crimes. Wow. So do you filter folks using Outlook that do an SMTP get every minute or so with the default settings in Office 2k/xp? Are they *attacking* you as well? Frequent web hits from the same client? Not clear from your site how you bill, but industry standard is either 95% peak usage or total GB per month. If I'm paying for traffic, you shouldn't care what it is, as long as it's legal. It comes down to what's an attack. I'd have trouble understanding six pings being an attack -- many small businesses (same folks who use shared servers and lots of your customers, right?) use 1 IP address and NAT it. Try this scenario "Bob, I can't ping the server. Can you try Sue?". "No luck here Bill, I'll try it from the server". "alright, i'll try it again though. "Nope, that's not it either, I'll try it from the router/pix/whatever". "Ok, now I have to call support to see what's up " "Yes sir, I understand you're having a problem. Oh -- you were attacking our server and we turned you off". Not very customer-centric. And I bet you'd have trouble defending that in court under that Texas law though I'm not familiar with Texas statutes, but I am with Virginia's -- and we're the Silicon Dominion so there's quite a few hi-tech laws. But redalert.com (now part of Keynote now) isn't violating any laws as far as "attacking" sites. No question Welchia violated laws, but there's a big difference between Welchia pinging you and a *customer* monitoring the site they pay you for. I'm the first person to say monitor the service you really need to monitor -- eg HTTP if it's web, SMTP if it's outbound mail, etc. Personally I'm a big fan of nagios and most every service provider I've ever dealt with had at least MRTG running internally to provide a window into uptime. That said, I still start with a ping when someone tells me we have a problem. > Like it or not, unnecessary internet traffic is just that, unnecessary. So get > a real job. Who judges what's "unnecessary"? All that graphic crap, flash, etc all get in the way of the text content. It's sort of unnecessary so just filter it out too? And the stupid stuff -- let's get rid of that. No more Survivor fan sites. And none of these useless newsgroups :) Welchia was nasty, but a block on the appropriate RPC ports at the perimeter routers and a little proactive monitoring of the syslog for scanning pings is plenty to protect you. It's not *that* hard to write a perl script that's a little more forgiving. We share space with Crutchfield and a couple other large regional companies and had no issues other than general slowness from the *rest* of world, particularly Adelphia which handled everything pretty darn poorly. Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138317 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Javascript question
You can add the top and left properties which is what it looks like screenX and screenY do? Top and left just tell it how many pixels down and how many pixels from the left you want the window. Ben -Original Message- From: Eric Creese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: OT: Javascript question Here is the code I use to call a popupwindow. I want to beable to place the smaller popup window where I want, pereferabley in the lower right corner. How do I do this? myWin= open(url, "displayWindow", "width=415,height=400,status=no,scrollbars=yes,toolbar=no,menubar=no,loc ation=yes,screenX=500,screenY=250"); ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138316 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
Thane Sherington wrote: >What do you use as your "good" server to test from? For about the last 1 1/2 to 2 years I have used my home DSL connection, on which I am running a full licensed copy of CF. Otherwise the cheapest way to do it is to get a cheapie hosting acct that lets you use cfschedule, or will schedule the tag call for you. I used Intermedia until I got home DSL. I talked with one of their owners before signing up and they were perfectly fine with the use I was putting the acct to. RedAlert wants US$115.95 per month for a 4-target, 5-minute interval monitor. Netwhistle wants US$140 and apparently can't do POP/SMTP testing. Intermedia cost me US$30 monthly. My sealed copy of CF cost me US$235 on Ebay. SitePeeker does everything I want it to. If you can think of anything else you want let me know. Haven't upgraded it in awhile. -- --- Matt Robertson, [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138315 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
At 11:38 AM 9/24/03 -0700, Matt Robertson wrote: >Check out CF_SitePeeker in the DevEx to use as a free server monitor. > >http://mysecretbase.com/page_48.html This is an excellent link, thanks. What do you use as your "good" server to test from? T Tired of your bookmarks/favourites being limited to one computer? Move them to the Net! www.stuffbythane.com/webfavourites makes it easy to keep all your favourites in one place and access them from any computer that's attached to the Internet. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138314 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 ColdFusion MX 6.1, now 2.5 times faster. http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/upgrade/jump/introducing.html?trackingid=ColdFusion_468x60g_HouseofFusion_carat_082803
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
Doug, one page hit every 5 minutes is not a crime, nor will it draw any notice from law enforcement. Again, monitoring a server for uptime at a responsible interval is entirely legal. Its done all the time, every day, by well-established corporations dedicated to doing just that and that only for paying customers. To assert otherwise ignores this reality. Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138313 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
CFMX 6.1 smalldatetime problem
Using SQL Server 2k and CFMX 6.1 on a Win2k box. Has anyone had any problems returning smalldatetime columns from a database? I keep getting this error: Error Executing Database Query. [Macromedia][SequeLink JDBC Driver][ODBC Socket][Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver]Numeric value out of range. And I've narrowed it down to a "datecreated" column that is a smalldatetime. The column returns correct information in Query Analyzer, so I expect that it's something on the CF side of things. If I change the column to "datetime" it works... this screams bug to me, but I'm wondering if I'm the only one encountering this... The is only happening on one of our 5 boxes, so it's probably just a fluke and restarting either CF or SQL might do the trick... Thoughts? -d ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138312 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: OT: Javascript question
You should be able to just change screenX and screenY to place the upper left hand corner of the popup anywhere you want. --Ben Doom Eric Creese wrote: > Here is the code I use to call a popupwindow. I want to beable to place the smaller > popup window where I want, pereferabley in the lower right corner. How do I do this? > > > myWin= open(url, "displayWindow", > > "width=415,height=400,status=no,scrollbars=yes,toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=yes,screenX=500,screenY=250"); > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138311 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
I use a routine that was developed to counter the Welchia ping attacks. Packets are captured with SNORT, and then added to a database via a perl script, and then another perl script to block you at the router. As for someone saying the attacking a network not under your control is ethical and Legal, I will remind that person that this system is in Texas, and we have statutes making the practice illegal, and subject to substantial fines. Put that together with an Attorney General who is enthusiastic about prosecuting computer crimes. Like it or not, unnecessary internet traffic is just that, unnecessary. So get a real job. == Stop spam on your domain, use our gateway! For hosting solutions http://www.clickdoug.com Featuring Win2003 Enterprise, RedHat Linux, CFMX 6.1 and all databases. ISP rated: http://www.forta.com/cf/isp/isp.cfm?isp_id=772 Suggested corporate Anti-virus policy: http://www.dshield.org/antivirus.pdf == If you are not satisfied with my service, my job isn't done! - Original Message - From: "jon hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:51 PM Subject: Re: Auto Pinging Script? | For 15 pings? Sheesh man...just filter icmp and be done with it if | that's the way you feel. How are you counting and triggering the | events? I could see doing this with IDS, but would think doing | something like that on the router would cause performance issues if | the counter window was long enough. Hell, it would probably make the | router easier to DOS...lol | | To answer the original question...I recommend something along the | lines of IPSwitch's WhatsUp, or one of the web based services out | there. | | -- | jon | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 2:18:56 PM, you wrote: | DW> You do this on my domain(s) and on the sixth ping you would be locked out of | DW> access to the system, and on the 15th ping, you would be reported to your ISP in | DW> the hopes of getting your service terminated, with additional reports to your | DW> ISP periodically thereafter, and then followed by a complaint filed with | DW> appropriate Law Enforcement. | | DW> You see, there are much better ways of evaluating a service provider than what | DW> could be considered a DDOS or intrusion attempt. | | ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138310 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
OT: Javascript question
Here is the code I use to call a popupwindow. I want to beable to place the smaller popup window where I want, pereferabley in the lower right corner. How do I do this? myWin= open(url, "displayWindow", "width=415,height=400,status=no,scrollbars=yes,toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=yes,screenX=500,screenY=250"); ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138309 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: Auto Pinging Script?
For 15 pings? Sheesh man...just filter icmp and be done with it if that's the way you feel. How are you counting and triggering the events? I could see doing this with IDS, but would think doing something like that on the router would cause performance issues if the counter window was long enough. Hell, it would probably make the router easier to DOS...lol To answer the original question...I recommend something along the lines of IPSwitch's WhatsUp, or one of the web based services out there. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, September 24, 2003, 2:18:56 PM, you wrote: DW> You do this on my domain(s) and on the sixth ping you would be locked out of DW> access to the system, and on the 15th ping, you would be reported to your ISP in DW> the hopes of getting your service terminated, with additional reports to your DW> ISP periodically thereafter, and then followed by a complaint filed with DW> appropriate Law Enforcement. DW> You see, there are much better ways of evaluating a service provider than what DW> could be considered a DDOS or intrusion attempt. ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138308 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: Auto Pinging Script?
Doug White wrote: >You do this on my domain(s) and .. a complaint filed with appropriate Law Enforcement All he wants is a server monitor. Common as dirt; ethical and legal. Check out CF_SitePeeker in the DevEx to use as a free server monitor. http://mysecretbase.com/page_48.html And cf_UpTimeMonger as a separate tool will measure actual downtime within a minute. I used the latter tool in a BBB complaint against Interland (!) years ago, and during the settlement conference they whined about the use of a 1-minute interval being a burden, all I had to do was ask "Are you saying your server can't handle one hit per minute?". End of foolish argument (here's the actual server report): http://foohbar.org/DownTimeReport.htm SitePeeker also has a report function that can maintain itself. I set mine to purge entries older than one day, and its been running for about 2 years without maintenance. Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138307 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries
>As for your suggestion, as long as my code is using the QUERY param of the >CFMAIL (instead of doing it one at a time) this will not work. Now in my >query I am having to add all sorts of checks to make sure the address is >valid. I have wasted my whole morning playing games with this tag. One of >these hours now my query will check every possible problem and deliver a >perfect set of approx 6000 email addresses to CFMAIL. > I'm a little confused. In order to use the QUERY attribute of the CFMAIL tag, you have to pass it a valid CFQUERY name that *that has already run.* So if you fix your AND-ing problem to OR, then you will be passing a query that should only have an e-mail address in it -- no NULLs and no blank strings. Can you post the full code snippet -- query and cfmail usage -- so that I/we can get a better idea of how your template is working (or not working)? Regards, Dave. _ High-speed Internet access as low as $29.95/month (depending on the local service providers in your area). Click here. https://broadband.msn.com ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138306 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: 6.1 & RDS
I have standalone. 2. If you open up WEB-INF/jrun-web.xml, what does it say in between ? I don't have that. In jrun-web.xml, all I have is /WEB-INF E:/CFusionMX/wwwroot/WEB-INF H. ~~ Howard Owens Internet Operations Coordinator Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co. www.venturacountystar.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: GoCatGo1956 ~~ > -Original Message- > From: Dave Carabetta [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 10:47 AM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: 6.1 & RDS > > >I did cover this previously, but ... > > > >XP Pro, CF 6.1, HS+ 5.2 > > > >What do you mean by context root other than "/"? > > > >What is rds.war? > > > > 1. By MX version, I meant standalone or for J2EE. > 2. If you open up WEB-INF/jrun-web.xml, what does it say in between > ? > 3. In your SERVER-INF/web.xml file, do you see the both of following > entries > at any point in the file? > > > RDSServlet > Apache-Axis Servlet > coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet > > servlet.class > coldfusion.rds.RdsFrontEndServlet > > > > and > > > RDSServlet > /CFIDE/main/ide.cfm > > > I'm on MX for J2EE for JRun, but I'm assuming that with 6.1, the files are > > the same. > > Regards, > Dave. > > _ > Get MSN 8 Dial-up Internet Service FREE for one month. Limited time > offer-- > sign up now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138305 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
RE: Enabling RDS on 6.1
I don't have wasweb.xml or j2ee-web.xml And I'm guessing what you give here isn't the full document. I'm not running j2ee, though, just standalone CF 6.1. H. ~~ Howard Owens Internet Operations Coordinator Ventura County Star / E.W. Scripps Co. www.venturacountystar.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: GoCatGo1956 ~~ > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 6:08 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: Re: Enabling RDS on 6.1 > > Here are the different xml settings from my cfusionmx directory. Maybe I > have a > setting that enables RDS which your missing: > > \lib\neo-security.xml > > > > > \wwwroot\web-inf\j2ee-web.xml > > RDSServlet > coldfusion.rds.RdsFrontEndServlet > > > > RDSServlet > /CFIDE/main/ide.cfm > > > \wwwroot\web-inf\wasweb.xml > >RDSServlet >coldfusion.rds.RdsFrontEndServlet > > > > > RDSServlet > > > /CFIDE/main/ide.cfm > > > > \wwwroot\web-inf\web.xml > > RDSServlet > coldfusion.rds.RdsFrontEndServlet > > > > RDSServlet > /CFIDE/main/ide.cfm > > > > For some reason known only to me I didn't activate RDS when installing > CFMX > > 6.1. > > > > How do I re-enable it? > > > > TIA! > > > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138304 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. http://www.cfhosting.com
Re: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries
Thank you for your understanding. Empathy always helps a bit :-) As for your suggestion, as long as my code is using the QUERY param of the CFMAIL (instead of doing it one at a time) this will not work. Now in my query I am having to add all sorts of checks to make sure the address is valid. I have wasted my whole morning playing games with this tag. One of these hours now my query will check every possible problem and deliver a perfect set of approx 6000 email addresses to CFMAIL. Why should I have to do this when the mail server would do it for me? Nobody really knows. Thanks for your help. Dustin - Original Message - From: "Dave Carabetta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:17 AM Subject: Re: CFMAIL TO param problems with large queries > >I *am* disturbed with CF because this new attribute validation is > >*breaking* > >code that worked before in 4.5. This validation is unnecessary and is > >better to be left for the mail server to handle. It is especially a hassle > >when you are passing the query parameter to the CFMAIL tag the query > >contains 6000 records! Now I have to make sure it has no invalid email > >addresses - it's enough to make you pull your hair out. > > > > I understand your frustration. I, too, just migrated from CF 4.5, and I > don't recall ever being able to put anything other than a valid e-mail > address in the TO attribute. In my experience, CF always failed on an > invalid address. But that's neither here nor there. > > As for compatibility with CF 4.5, well that's always a crap shoot, and I > definitely feel your pain on that front. We just migrated our site from CF > 4.5 to CFMX 6.0->6.1 and had all sorts of those little quirks to work out. > The way I looked at it was that Macromedia claimed compatibility with CF 5 > and no earlier, so I just sucked it up and fixed what had to be done. > > By the way, you didn't mention whether or not the query suggestion worked? > Taking care of it at the root instead of len(trim()) tests is more efficient > and a cleaner implementation. > > Regards, > Dave. > > _ > Instant message during games with MSN Messenger 6.0. Download it now FREE! > http://msnmessenger-download.com > > ~| Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=i:4:138303 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
