HTML table in Excel - formatting problem

2005-01-04 Thread Shawn
I'm creating an HTML table, and setting the mime type of the page so that it 
is treated as an MS Excel file.  This has been working great except for one 
little gotcha.

One of the columns has a "job number" with a format similar to this "04-1234".  
When the table is opened in Excel, some of the records have their job number 
treated as a date, which isn't what we want.  I've tried putting a single 
quote in front of the job number (the Excel trick to indicate text only), but 
the quote is visible in the resulting file.  Thus far the only solution we 
can see is to make the job number an obvious non-number by placing a 
meaningless character (we're using a period for now) in the string somewhere.  
This still isn't the best solution, so now I'm looking for other ideas.

(NOTE, this is on a CF5 server, but I don't think that is too much of a 
factor).

Thanks in advance for any tips.

Shawn

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Re: cfmailpart problems

2005-01-04 Thread Marcus Whitworth
Below is the source of the mail. Displays fine as html in Outlook, displays as 
text in Thunderbird, Mozilla, Safari.
---


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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Spike
Are there any plans to make this alternative available through the 
Macromedia online store?

As a general rule I'd rather chew off my right arm than deal with sales 
people.

Spike

Sean Corfield wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:03:41 -0800, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>How about a quick and dirty answer for the question that is forefront
>>in my mind, and probably a lot of other people as well:
> 
> 
> This should answer most questions:
> 
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/faq_eol.html
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/productinfo/buy/volume_license.html
> 
> 
>>Perhaps a FAQ page on macromedia.com would be better?
> 
> 
> See above...

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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 18:03:41 -0800, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> How about a quick and dirty answer for the question that is forefront
> in my mind, and probably a lot of other people as well:

This should answer most questions:

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/faq_eol.html
http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/productinfo/buy/volume_license.html

> Perhaps a FAQ page on macromedia.com would be better?

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Datasource Question

2005-01-04 Thread Joe Gooch
I have to interface one of my Coldfusion applications with a dBase IV
database.  Since CF doesn't have a dBase IV JDBC driver, I'm guessing
the only way it's going to work is by using the Datadirect ODBC bridge
(sequelink server) with the MS Jet dBase ODBC driver.  Unfortunately,
the data is not on the CFMX server; it is on a remote windows NT server.
I can install Sequelink server on that machine and use the "other"
database type to use sequelink's JDBC driver to connect to that server
for the data.

My question is, since Sequelink is packaged with CFMX, what is the
licensing model for the product?  Does it only cover using Sequelink on
the CFMX server itself?  Does it support installation on other machines
and if so, how do I install it?  (since the installshield w/ CFMX really
only works with the cfusionmx directory, the cfmx installer, and other
cfmx specific items, it seems obvious to me that it's only meant for use
on the coldfusion server, but I thought I'd ask)  

The next step of this process is to put the CFMX server on Linux, which
means I'll *really* have to put Sequelink on another server, since Linux
won't afford me the ODBC drivers I need.

Any suggestions would be appreciated!
Joe

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Re: SQL group by instead of cfoutput group?

2005-01-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
>Just add 'DISTINCT' after 'SELECT' and SQL Server will automatically
>ensure that you don't have any duplicate rows in your result set.  Oh,
>and go check out CFQUERYPARAM and use it.  It'll save you lots of
>headaches.

I tried DISTINCT and it still returns duplicate prodmodelcodes. How can I weed 
out those duplicate model codes? h

I'll be using a stored procedure for it so security will be covered. 

Thanks for your help,
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Re: SQL group by instead of cfoutput group?

2005-01-04 Thread Barney Boisvert
Just add 'DISTINCT' after 'SELECT' and SQL Server will automatically
ensure that you don't have any duplicate rows in your result set.  Oh,
and go check out CFQUERYPARAM and use it.  It'll save you lots of
headaches.

cheers,
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On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 21:04:20 -0400, Will Tomlinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm working with a clothing database. ProdID is the PK, then I have 
> prodmodelnumber, prodcategory, etc..etc..
> 
> Clothes with the same model number have different sizes and colors so there 
> will be quite a few duplicate model numbers in this table. I'm passing the 
> usual URL parameter for the category to the query. How can I group this so 
> there'll be only distinct model numbers shown?
> 
> I made it work by using , but I was trying to 
> keep the burden on SQL Server. Also, I'm going to convert the cfquery to a 
> stored procedure, can I handle this with T-SQL?
> 
> Thanks,
> Will
> 
> 
> 
> SELECT prodID, prodmodelcode, prodtitle, prodcategory, prodsellprice
> FROM dbo.tblproducts
> WHERE prodcategory = '#URL.CAT#'
> 
> 

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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Barney Boisvert
How about a quick and dirty answer for the question that is forefront
in my mind, and probably a lot of other people as well:

If I have a single DevNet subscription that is expiring at some point,
what does it cost to keep approx the same features after my
subscription expires, and what will the differences in features be.

>From the web site, it appears that I'll no longer get Contribute with
a Studio subscription.  I presume the DRKs are also going away, or are
at least going to be a separately purchased item?  What about
full-feature servers for development use?  Still possible, or only
developer editions?

I don't know if CF-Talk is the best venue for these types of questions
to be preserved.  Perhaps a FAQ page on macromedia.com would be
better?  At the very least, a quick rundown of some of these basic
questions.

cheers,
barneyb

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:59:37 -0800, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanx for bringing those inconsistencies to our attention - they will
> get fixed shortly!
> 

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SQL group by instead of cfoutput group?

2005-01-04 Thread Will Tomlinson
Hello,

I'm working with a clothing database. ProdID is the PK, then I have 
prodmodelnumber, prodcategory, etc..etc..

Clothes with the same model number have different sizes and colors so there 
will be quite a few duplicate model numbers in this table. I'm passing the 
usual URL parameter for the category to the query. How can I group this so 
there'll be only distinct model numbers shown? 

I made it work by using , but I was trying to 
keep the burden on SQL Server. Also, I'm going to convert the cfquery to a 
stored procedure, can I handle this with T-SQL?

Thanks,
Will



SELECT prodID, prodmodelcode, prodtitle, prodcategory, prodsellprice
FROM dbo.tblproducts
WHERE prodcategory = '#URL.CAT#' 


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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
Thanx for bringing those inconsistencies to our attention - they will
get fixed shortly!

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:53:35 -0400, Jeff Houser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  It becomes even more confusing since DevNet is still listed on places such 
> as the "commercial volume licensing" page and in the point document.
> 
> http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/vlo/
> 
>  A Studio MX subscription is 2 points, as somewhere in here:
> 
> http://download.macromedia.com/pub/mvlp/vlo_points.pdf
> 
>   I need 10 points to qualify for a BVLO (Base Volume License Option; took me 
> a while to define this acronym), so I don't qualify however I can still be an 
> entry level user?
> 
>  I think that means I can buy the Studio MX subscription at the full price.
> 
> >Let me get this straight. For DevNet subscribers such as myself, the upgrade
> >path is the "Volume License Program", which seems to use a convoluted
> >sliding point scale to determine price? That's supposed to be less
> >confusing?
> >
> >  http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/vlo/
> >
> >I've been surfing the Macromedia site for the past hour trying to figure out
> >exactly how much what I used to have will cost in the future and I still
> >don't know. Looks like I have to call the Macromedia Call Center just to get
> >a price quote.
> >
> >Ben Rogers
> >http://www.c4.net
> >v.508.240.0051
> >f.508.240.0057

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Re: ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread Adrocknaphobia
I guess he didnt get to it before he left, here is what he sent to
managers the day before he left:

>If you award your software while I am out, please make your winner
aware that >they will not be receiving their product until after I
return in Jan.

Hes scheduled back in 'early Jan'.

Ken you should still be able to claim your serial. You should get it
and just put it on file till you need it.

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RE: ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread dave
humm, i didnt get anything like that at all
i got what i put in the last post and after sending my mailing address i got 
this


Subj:  RE: FW: [denvercfug] Studio MX Pro Prize Given to...
Date:  Fri, 12 Nov 2004 15:23:43 -0500
From:  Edward Sullivan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thank you, Dave...I'll have your software shipped out next week.

Best regards,

Ed






-- Original Message --
From: "Ken Ketsdever" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date:  Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:41:23 -0800

>I too was a lucky winner several months ago but never download it. I was 
>waiting for a new box I was going to build and have been swamped with others 
>issues ever since. I've probably lost out (breaks to hit head on wall).  Here 
>is the information I recieved minus the required discount code.
>
>
>>From this point forward, we will no longer be shipping software with the 
>>packages, but sending codes used for automatic downloads. Please note that 
>>this software contains product activation meaning the license agreement is 
>>for one person, 2 computers.  Please respect Macromedia's license agreements.
>
>You can use this software as a giveaway or for use on your User Group's web 
>site. But remember, once one person downloads the software, that person owns 
>it.  CODES MUST BE REDEEMED BEFORE JUNE 30, 2004.
>
>Please follow the download instructions below: 
>
>To redeem your code, simply go to: 
>http://shop.macromedia.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&PN=5&SP=10007&SID=46165&PID=626198
> and go through a standard purchase of Studio MX w/Flash Pro (do not try to 
>combine with any special offers you see offered on the online store).  Towards 
>the end of the process, the person redeeming the code will be prompted for any 
>discount codes.  Plug in the code below, check out and you should be able to 
>complete the order without paying anything.  You can only use this code for a 
>Win or Mac version and the code may only be used once. 
>
>Go to: 
>http://shop.macromedia.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&PN=5&SP=10007&SID=46165&PID=626198
> 
>Select English as your language (you must select English version, sorry) and 
>choose Mac or Win download 
>Click "Add to cart" 
>Refuse any add-ons that are offered 
>Refuse any additional products that are offered 
>Enter your promo code and proceed to checkout (click "secure checkout") 
>
>If you encounter any issues, please let me know.
>
>Enjoy!
> 

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Re: ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread dave
i heard he was but should have been back by now and i have emailed serveral 
times and didnt get an out of office responce like u'd usually get so i was 
just checking.
i thought id just get another serial # as well but heres the meat of the email


Hello Dave,

Congratulations on winning a copy of Studio at your local user group
meeting.

Please send me your mailing address and I will have your software shipped
out to you.

Thank you,


sounds like a boxed one to me
and that was almost 2 months ago

not trying to be pushy just curious


-- Original Message --
From: Adrocknaphobia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date:  Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:29:13 -0500

>Dave,
>
>I don't believe you should receive a boxed version, I think they just
>give you a serial number which you can activate the trial versions
>with. Who were you in contact with at MM? Ed is on sabatacle..did I
>spell that right?
>
>-Adam
>
>
>On Tue,  4 Jan 2005 18:04:18 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> i won a free full version of studio pro in early novemeber (go to your local 
>> cfigs!) and have never recieved it and the contact person i have hasnt 
>> responded to any emails (besides the one that said it was being sent on nov 
>> 12), is there someone i can call? i been looking for a phone # but cant seem 
>> to find the correct one.
>> 
>> thanks :)
>> 
>> 
>
>

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RE: ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread Ken Ketsdever
I too was a lucky winner several months ago but never download it. I was 
waiting for a new box I was going to build and have been swamped with others 
issues ever since. I've probably lost out (breaks to hit head on wall).  Here 
is the information I recieved minus the required discount code.


>From this point forward, we will no longer be shipping software with the 
>packages, but sending codes used for automatic downloads. Please note that 
>this software contains product activation meaning the license agreement is for 
>one person, 2 computers.  Please respect Macromedia's license agreements.

You can use this software as a giveaway or for use on your User Group's web 
site. But remember, once one person downloads the software, that person owns 
it.  CODES MUST BE REDEEMED BEFORE JUNE 30, 2004.

Please follow the download instructions below: 

To redeem your code, simply go to: 
http://shop.macromedia.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&PN=5&SP=10007&SID=46165&PID=626198
 and go through a standard purchase of Studio MX w/Flash Pro (do not try to 
combine with any special offers you see offered on the online store).  Towards 
the end of the process, the person redeeming the code will be prompted for any 
discount codes.  Plug in the code below, check out and you should be able to 
complete the order without paying anything.  You can only use this code for a 
Win or Mac version and the code may only be used once. 

Go to: 
http://shop.macromedia.com/dr/v2/ec_MAIN.Entry17c?CID=0&PN=5&SP=10007&SID=46165&PID=626198
 
Select English as your language (you must select English version, sorry) and 
choose Mac or Win download 
Click "Add to cart" 
Refuse any add-ons that are offered 
Refuse any additional products that are offered 
Enter your promo code and proceed to checkout (click "secure checkout") 

If you encounter any issues, please let me know.

Enjoy!
**



On Tue,  4 Jan 2005 18:04:18 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i won a free full version of studio pro in early novemeber (go to your local 
> cfigs!) and have never recieved it and the contact person i have hasnt 
> responded to any emails (besides the one that said it was being sent on nov 
> 12), is there someone i can call? i been looking for a phone # but cant seem 
> to find the correct one.
> 
> thanks :)

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Re: ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Damn, I was way off..


On Wed, 5 Jan 2005 11:33:15 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sabbatical.(Always eager to be a help)
> 
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
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> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:29:13 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Dave,
> [snip]
> 
> Who were you in contact with at MM? Ed is on sabatacle..did I
> > spell that right?
> >
> [snip]
> > -Adam
> 
> 

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Re: ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread Mike Kear
Sabbatical.(Always eager to be a help)


Cheers
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On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 19:29:13 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave,
[snip]
 
 Who were you in contact with at MM? Ed is on sabatacle..did I
> spell that right?
>
[snip] 
> -Adam

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Re: ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Dave,

I don't believe you should receive a boxed version, I think they just
give you a serial number which you can activate the trial versions
with. Who were you in contact with at MM? Ed is on sabatacle..did I
spell that right?

-Adam


On Tue,  4 Jan 2005 18:04:18 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i won a free full version of studio pro in early novemeber (go to your local 
> cfigs!) and have never recieved it and the contact person i have hasnt 
> responded to any emails (besides the one that said it was being sent on nov 
> 12), is there someone i can call? i been looking for a phone # but cant seem 
> to find the correct one.
> 
> thanks :)
> 
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RE: Default Instance Values in CFC Bean

2005-01-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
>>One option would be to use a "mode" setting in your object.  If it's
set to "full" then you do complete validation.  If it's set to
"nameEmail" then you only validate part of it.

I've been thinking about your suggestion of validation modes.
This is my initial attempt to validate "selected" fields:

UserBean.setFirstName("Mike")
UserBean.setLastName("Dawson")
UserBean.setValidationFields("firstName,lastName")
UserBean.validate()   <-- Validates only firstname and lastname fields.
UserBean.isValid()<-- Validation will succeed.

Or this to validate "all" fields:

UserBean.setFirstName("Mike")
UserBean.setLastName("Dawson")
UserBean.validate()   <-- Defaults to all fields.
UserBean.isValid()<-- Validation will fail since not all values have
been set.

>>However, before you go down that road, I'd take a second look and make
sure you're not trying to bastardize your user object simply to save
yourself some typing.  If your single user entity can legitimately have
different situations where different things are required, then fine.
But if you're really using the same object to represent two distinct
entities that just happen to both be termed "user", then you're going to
run into trouble down the road trying to combine them.

In my environment, I can picture several places where I need a user
object to pass to other objects that handle a user-related object.  They
should still be the same object even though they may not always populate
every instance variables.  I don't see any benefit having two distinct
user objects where one has fewer fields than the other, as long as the
form, fit and function don't cause any problems.

(I may very well run into a situation where I need to create another
user-related object, but with the information I have gleaned from this
list, I think I can spot those cases before I run into too much
trouble.)

I don't mind the typing.  My dad was a typing teacher.  ;-)

Thanks
M!ke

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Thorsteinn Jonsson
Please keep this conversation an the list... if you can... :-)

All these posts, recently about cfcs and OO have been very ... very
interesting... even this one with these various links.

I have this application that I want to modify... completely... so I
thought about going for cfcs...

So I started digging... and reading... stumbled on OO... (which I find
really cool)... but the closesed I've come to OO ... was Spectra...
:-|  ... so I'm a little stuck at the moment...

So ... you (Sean) would suggest that I just go for "normal" cfcs...
for now and start learning more about OO, with Java besides?

Steini

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ot: contacting MM

2005-01-04 Thread dave
i won a free full version of studio pro in early novemeber (go to your local 
cfigs!) and have never recieved it and the contact person i have hasnt 
responded to any emails (besides the one that said it was being sent on nov 
12), is there someone i can call? i been looking for a phone # but cant seem to 
find the correct one.



thanks :) 

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Donna French
Okay, thanks. I've been coding VB.NET for about a year now so OO isn't
a total mystery to me, but the whole CFC thing has captured my
attention - and I'm sure it's partly because of my experience with
.NET thus far.

I welcome any and all emails on or off list & look forward to
exploring more into CFC's. Cold Fusion has once again captured my
heart! LOL

;-)



On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:55:46 -0800, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:33:47 -0500, Troy Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Aside from the above links, and the pending book from HH, any other
> > suggestions on learning CFC's "correctly"?
> 
> It depends what you mean by "correctly" - if you mean "full-blown OO"
> then that's much harder (and will likely take you months or even years
> to become proficient with). If you're interested in going OO then:
> 
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/machiidevguide/
> 
> The concepts and models sections contain a lot of useful general OO
> information that is not Mach II specific.
> 
> Otherwise, learn Java and use Java OO books to help you come up to
> speed on how to do OO right then you can apply what you've learned to
> CFCs. Part of the problem is that some of the concepts in OO can't be
> learned in CFCs directly because they don't support certain constructs
> (interfaces, true constructors etc) but you really need to understand
> those to be effective in OO.
> 
> Of course, you can start using CFCs effectively without that but you
> might not reap any of the real benefits of OO without understanding
> more of the deeper concepts and constructs...
> 
> I started down this part 13 years ago and I'm still learning :)
> --
> Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
> Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
> Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
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> 
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> -- Margaret Atwood
> 
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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:33:47 -0500, Troy Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Aside from the above links, and the pending book from HH, any other
> suggestions on learning CFC's "correctly"?

It depends what you mean by "correctly" - if you mean "full-blown OO"
then that's much harder (and will likely take you months or even years
to become proficient with). If you're interested in going OO then:

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/wtg/public/machiidevguide/

The concepts and models sections contain a lot of useful general OO
information that is not Mach II specific.

Otherwise, learn Java and use Java OO books to help you come up to
speed on how to do OO right then you can apply what you've learned to
CFCs. Part of the problem is that some of the concepts in OO can't be
learned in CFCs directly because they don't support certain constructs
(interfaces, true constructors etc) but you really need to understand
those to be effective in OO.

Of course, you can start using CFCs effectively without that but you
might not reap any of the real benefits of OO without understanding
more of the deeper concepts and constructs...

I started down this part 13 years ago and I'm still learning :)
-- 
Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
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Re: SQL Query matching dates

2005-01-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Duncan I Loxton wrote:
> 
>   SELECT *
>   FROM LibraryBooking
>   WHERE lib_item = #attributes.lii_id#
>   AND (
>   (lib_StartDate >= #startDate# AND lib_StartDate <= #startDate#) 
>   OR 
>   (lib_EndDate >= #endDate# AND lib_EndDate <= #endDate#)
>   )

Presuming you have already validated that #startDate# < #endDate# 
and lib_StartDate < lib_EndDate:

SELECT *
FROM   LibraryBooking
WHERE
   lib_item = 
   AND NOT (
 lib_StartDate <= 
 AND
 lib_EndDate >= 
   )

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Donna French
Thanks Brian,
I've downloaded the sample and I'm curious if anyone else has been a
simple cart using a single CFC and various functions within that CFC
to add/delete/edit items in the cart?
TIA,
Donna


On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 17:25:38 -0500, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have a sample Fusebox 4 application at my web site
> (http://www.briankotek.com) under the ColdFusion section. It uses CFCs
> as the model and includes a basic shopping cart.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:17:00 -0600, Donna French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Okay, I've read a couple tutorials and have only learned enough to be
> > dangerous - so PLEASE bare with me.
> >
> > After reading Forta's Using CFC's on the Macromedia site
> > (http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/extreme/bforta_cfc.html)
> > I'm wondering if it is possible - or if anyone has done this. Build a
> > shopping cart using a single CFC and just call a method for whatever
> > the user wants to do (add item, etc.)?
> >
> > I'm probably way behind but I promise I am trying to get up to speed
> > as quickly as possible!
> >
> > TIA,
> > Donna
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:33:47 -0500, Troy Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Sean,
> > >
> > > Aside from the above links, and the pending book from HH, any other
> > > suggestions on learning CFC's "correctly"?
> > >
> > > -t
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:13:48 -0800, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > I don't know if there's a good, free online resource for introductory
> > > > > learning about CFCs: there's probably some tutorials at Macromedia,
> > > > > and a number of us post on CFCs frequently on our blogs.
> > > >
> > > > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/building.htm
> > > >
> > > > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/cfcs.html
> > > >
> > > > http://www.sitepoint.com/print/components-introduction
> > > >
> > > > > The ColdFusion WACK by Ben Forta and Hal Helms' Discovering CFCs
> > > >
> > > > Be aware that both of those address CFMX 6.0 and are therefore based
> > > > on what is considered extremely bad practice nowadays (because 6.0 did
> > > > not support the good practices that 6.1 introduced). Both books talk
> > > > about using THIS scope and make no mention of declaring local
> > > > variables with VAR (because 6.0 didn't support it and didn't have the
> > > > non-public VARIABLES scope).
> > > > --
> > > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
> > > > Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
> > > > Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
> > > > Got Gmail? -- I have 6 invites to give away!
> > > >
> > > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> > > > -- Margaret Atwood
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Andy Ousterhout
Donna,
Good question.  I would think that something like this would already be in
the public domain, somewhere.

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Donna French

I'm wondering if it is possible - or if anyone has done this. Build a
shopping cart using a single CFC and just call a method for whatever
the user wants to do (add item, etc.)?

I



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SQL Query matching dates

2005-01-04 Thread Duncan I Loxton
Hi everyone,

Just having a mental block here and I wonder if you could help me out?

I am writing a library app, very simple, and we are allowing users to
book out an item by selecting 2 dates (startDate and endDate).  My
problem is the query to check if the dates they selected are
available.

I need to make sure the startDate isnt in between any existing
bookings start and end date, the same with the endDate.  Also make
sure that the users startDate andendDate arent eclipsing any one elses
bookings.

Now I think I started on the right track, but something aint right:

SELECT *
FROM LibraryBooking
WHERE lib_item = #attributes.lii_id#
AND (
(lib_StartDate >= #startDate# AND lib_StartDate <= #startDate#) 
OR 
(lib_EndDate >= #endDate# AND lib_EndDate <= #endDate#)
)

Thanks in advance!

Duncan

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Brian Kotek
I have a sample Fusebox 4 application at my web site
(http://www.briankotek.com) under the ColdFusion section. It uses CFCs
as the model and includes a basic shopping cart.


On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:17:00 -0600, Donna French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay, I've read a couple tutorials and have only learned enough to be
> dangerous - so PLEASE bare with me.
> 
> After reading Forta's Using CFC's on the Macromedia site
> (http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/extreme/bforta_cfc.html)
> I'm wondering if it is possible - or if anyone has done this. Build a
> shopping cart using a single CFC and just call a method for whatever
> the user wants to do (add item, etc.)?
> 
> I'm probably way behind but I promise I am trying to get up to speed
> as quickly as possible!
> 
> TIA,
> Donna
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:33:47 -0500, Troy Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sean,
> >
> > Aside from the above links, and the pending book from HH, any other
> > suggestions on learning CFC's "correctly"?
> >
> > -t
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:13:48 -0800, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > I don't know if there's a good, free online resource for introductory
> > > > learning about CFCs: there's probably some tutorials at Macromedia,
> > > > and a number of us post on CFCs frequently on our blogs.
> > >
> > > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/building.htm
> > >
> > > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/cfcs.html
> > >
> > > http://www.sitepoint.com/print/components-introduction
> > >
> > > > The ColdFusion WACK by Ben Forta and Hal Helms' Discovering CFCs
> > >
> > > Be aware that both of those address CFMX 6.0 and are therefore based
> > > on what is considered extremely bad practice nowadays (because 6.0 did
> > > not support the good practices that 6.1 introduced). Both books talk
> > > about using THIS scope and make no mention of declaring local
> > > variables with VAR (because 6.0 didn't support it and didn't have the
> > > non-public VARIABLES scope).
> > > --
> > > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
> > > Team Fusebox -- http://www.fusebox.org/
> > > Breeze Me! -- http://www.corfield.org/breezeme
> > > Got Gmail? -- I have 6 invites to give away!
> > >
> > > "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> > > -- Margaret Atwood
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Donna French
Okay, I've read a couple tutorials and have only learned enough to be
dangerous - so PLEASE bare with me.

After reading Forta's Using CFC's on the Macromedia site
(http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/extreme/bforta_cfc.html)
I'm wondering if it is possible - or if anyone has done this. Build a
shopping cart using a single CFC and just call a method for whatever
the user wants to do (add item, etc.)?

I'm probably way behind but I promise I am trying to get up to speed
as quickly as possible!

TIA,
Donna



On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:33:47 -0500, Troy Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sean,
> 
> Aside from the above links, and the pending book from HH, any other
> suggestions on learning CFC's "correctly"?
> 
> -t
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:13:48 -0800, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > I don't know if there's a good, free online resource for introductory
> > > learning about CFCs: there's probably some tutorials at Macromedia,
> > > and a number of us post on CFCs frequently on our blogs.
> >
> > http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/building.htm
> >
> > http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/cfcs.html
> >
> > http://www.sitepoint.com/print/components-introduction
> >
> > > The ColdFusion WACK by Ben Forta and Hal Helms' Discovering CFCs
> >
> > Be aware that both of those address CFMX 6.0 and are therefore based
> > on what is considered extremely bad practice nowadays (because 6.0 did
> > not support the good practices that 6.1 introduced). Both books talk
> > about using THIS scope and make no mention of declaring local
> > variables with VAR (because 6.0 didn't support it and didn't have the
> > non-public VARIABLES scope).
> > --
> > Sean A Corfield -- http://www.corfield.org/
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Re: Default Instance Values in CFC Bean

2005-01-04 Thread Barney Boisvert
One option would be to use a "mode" setting in your object.  If it's
set to "full" then you do complete validation.  If it's set to
"nameEmail" then you only validate part of it.  Another option would
be to have a NamedUser with just the name fields, and then a FullUser
(or whatever) that extends NamedUser and adds more fields.  I can't
say whether or not that's a good idea; it depends on whether your
existing object model is appropriate for that type of inheritance
relationship.

However, before you go down that road, I'd take a second look and make
sure you're not trying to bastardize your user object simply to save
yourself some typing.  If your single user entity can legitimately
have different situations where different things are required, then
fine.  But if you're really using the same object to represent two
distinct entities that just happen to both be termed "user", then
you're going to run into trouble down the road trying to combine them.

cheers,
barneyb

On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:30:04 -0600, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Barney said, "I much prefer a validate() method separate from the
> individual getters and setters."
> 
> Sean pretty much said the same thing.
> 
> I can understand the reasoning behind these comments and I like the fact
> that I can wrap up temporary storage of data PLUS validation of that
> same data, all in one object.  That makes it very handy to carry around
> for multiple purposes.
> 
> On the other hand, that is where the limitation is, in my mind.
> 
> Let's say I have a user-related object with the following instance
> variables:
> 
> UserBean.cfc
> ID#
> SSN
> BirthDate
> FirstName
> LastName
> Email
> 
> I also have the setters and getters for each instance variable.  These
> are all string data types.
> 
> In addition, I have a validate() method that checks, obviously, for
> valid data.
> 
> I want to reuse this same user-related CFC for multiple purposes.  One
> use is with a DAO to manage the database operations.  This requires me
> to fill "all" variables and validate them.
> 
> My other use is to wrap up "some" instance variables, but not all, for a
> completely different use, but still user related.  For example, I only
> need to pass FirstName, LastName and Email.  Rather than create a new
> bean with only these instance variables, I just want to use "part" of my
> UserBean CFC.
> 
> This is all fine until I run the validate() method.  Then, it will tell
> me that ID, SSN and BirthDate are required and/or not of the necessary
> data type.
> 
> This leads me back to Roland's comment where he uses a struct as a data
> object and not an entire CFC.  In Roland's case, his struct can't
> validate itself as a CFC can.  Therefore, he must do validation outside
> of the data struct.
> 
> On the other hand, a struct can't define itself using an init() like a
> CFC can. (Unless you write a function that returns a struct with empty
> keys.)
> 
> To sum it up, how can I use a bean-type CFC to pass several data
> elements, validate the data, yet still not "always" require validation?
> 
> Thanks
> MAD
> 

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Re: Custom DNS Server?

2005-01-04 Thread Aaron Rouse
I maintain my own DNS servers, probably only about 40-50 domains.  I
use some very outdated hardware for it and have no issues.  They are a
pair of PPro 180 boxes with I think 64mb of RAM and running FBSD for
the OS.


On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 14:06:13 -0800, Jordan Michaels
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We run our own DNS servers here at Vivio. As someone else mentioned,
> they don't need much as far as CPU or Bandwidth - they just process a
> lot of little requests. A lot like someone hitting a simple html page
> fairly frequently. Our primary DNS server is an AMD 2000+ with 256 MB
> RAM, and our secondary (backup) is a P2 450 with 128. We run all our
> domains off these machines with no problems whatsoever.
> 
> We use BIND which is arguably the most stable and popular DNS server out
> there.
> 
> HTH,
> Jordan
> 
> 
> Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:
> 
> >Has anyone run their own DNS server? I want to experiment having 3rd
> >level domains creatable and served from a cf box.  Which DNS Server
> >should I use?
> >Does anyone know the additional load incurred by running your own DNS? (
> >how much bandwidth and how much processor power ) is used by this?
> >
> >Thanks
> >-dov
> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Warm regards,
> Jordan Michaels
> Vivio Technologies
> http://www.viviotech.net/
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: Custom DNS Server?

2005-01-04 Thread Dennis Powers
>> Has anyone run their own DNS server?

We use Bind for NT for the Primary, and both Secondary DNS servers.

>> Does anyone know the additional load incurred by
>> running your own DNS

The primary DNS machine is a 450Mgz Pentium with 512meg memory and a 10 gig
Hard drive. The secondary boxes are 230Mhz Pentiums.  We are the authoritive
host for about 1000 domains and the CPU utilization of the DNS servers is
practically nil. The bandwidth on a real busy day might spike to 220Kbit/sec
but that may be skewed because we also run the secondary mailserver on the
same box.  I suspect that we might get 40-80Kbit/sec on the DNS alone
because the secondary runs 20-50Kbit/sec.

Best Regards,

Dennis Powers
UXB Internet- A Website Design and Hosting Company
690 Wolcott Road - P.O. Box 6028
Wolcott, CT 06716tel: (203)879-2844
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Re: Custom DNS Server?

2005-01-04 Thread Jordan Michaels
We run our own DNS servers here at Vivio. As someone else mentioned, 
they don't need much as far as CPU or Bandwidth - they just process a 
lot of little requests. A lot like someone hitting a simple html page 
fairly frequently. Our primary DNS server is an AMD 2000+ with 256 MB 
RAM, and our secondary (backup) is a P2 450 with 128. We run all our 
domains off these machines with no problems whatsoever.

We use BIND which is arguably the most stable and popular DNS server out 
there.

HTH,
Jordan



Katz, Dov B (IT) wrote:

>Has anyone run their own DNS server? I want to experiment having 3rd
>level domains creatable and served from a cf box.  Which DNS Server
>should I use?  
>Does anyone know the additional load incurred by running your own DNS? (
>how much bandwidth and how much processor power ) is used by this?
> 
>Thanks
>-dov 
>  
>

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RE: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Damien McKenna
This convoluted licensing system is similar to how many companies are
doing it now.  Needless to say it is a *major* headache trying to
understand it the first time.

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> Subject: RE: The Death of DevNet :-(
> 
> I'm a little confused as to why on the list of products and 
> points DevNet is listed as a product.  I'm assuming this is 
> just how things have been handled internally and the 
> documentation is just now getting pushed out to the public 
> but it seems it could use a little cleaning up if the object 
> is to avoid confusion. 


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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Jeff Houser
 It becomes even more confusing since DevNet is still listed on places such as 
the "commercial volume licensing" page and in the point document.

http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/vlo/

 A Studio MX subscription is 2 points, as somewhere in here:

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/mvlp/vlo_points.pdf

  I need 10 points to qualify for a BVLO (Base Volume License Option; took me a 
while to define this acronym), so I don't qualify however I can still be an 
entry level user?  

 I think that means I can buy the Studio MX subscription at the full price.  

>Let me get this straight. For DevNet subscribers such as myself, the upgrade
>path is the "Volume License Program", which seems to use a convoluted
>sliding point scale to determine price? That's supposed to be less
>confusing?
>
>  http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/vlo/
>
>I've been surfing the Macromedia site for the past hour trying to figure out
>exactly how much what I used to have will cost in the future and I still
>don't know. Looks like I have to call the Macromedia Call Center just to get
>a price quote.
>
>Ben Rogers
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RE: Custom DNS Server?

2005-01-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
Not sure about a specific product (we use Windows 2003 Server), but you
don't need much horsepower at all.  You won't need much bandwidth
either, since you aren't sending gobs of data, but you will be receiving
and sending lots of small requests if you have a busy domain.

I would suggest a couple of low- mid-range desktop computers (possibly
ones you may have sitting on a shelf), load up the memory and make sure
they have good network connections.  You might even need dual NICs.

Didn't I read something about Ben Forta running a bunch of stuff like
this on a Pentium 90 in his basement?  ;-)

-Original Message-
From: Katz, Dov B (IT) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Custom DNS Server?

Has anyone run their own DNS server? I want to experiment having 3rd
level domains creatable and served from a cf box.  Which DNS Server
should I use?  
Does anyone know the additional load incurred by running your own DNS? (
how much bandwidth and how much processor power ) is used by this?
 
Thanks
-dov

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Troy Murray
Sean,

Aside from the above links, and the pending book from HH, any other
suggestions on learning CFC's "correctly"?

-t



On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 13:13:48 -0800, Sean Corfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I don't know if there's a good, free online resource for introductory
> > learning about CFCs: there's probably some tutorials at Macromedia,
> > and a number of us post on CFCs frequently on our blogs.
> 
> http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/building.htm
> 
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/cfcs.html
> 
> http://www.sitepoint.com/print/components-introduction
> 
> > The ColdFusion WACK by Ben Forta and Hal Helms' Discovering CFCs
> 
> Be aware that both of those address CFMX 6.0 and are therefore based
> on what is considered extremely bad practice nowadays (because 6.0 did
> not support the good practices that 6.1 introduced). Both books talk
> about using THIS scope and make no mention of declaring local
> variables with VAR (because 6.0 didn't support it and didn't have the
> non-public VARIABLES scope).
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Custom DNS Server?

2005-01-04 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
Has anyone run their own DNS server? I want to experiment having 3rd
level domains creatable and served from a cf box.  Which DNS Server
should I use?  
Does anyone know the additional load incurred by running your own DNS? (
how much bandwidth and how much processor power ) is used by this?
 
Thanks
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RE: Saving empty (zero-length) files is prohibited.

2005-01-04 Thread Burns, John D
Joe,

I've seen this problem before.  From the info I could find in a quick
search (and my short memory) it has something to do with file extensions
on a mac (especially before OSX).  Apparently, if you specify an
incorrect path or name in the file upload field (try typing one in by
hand and deliberately make it incorrect) your browser will actually try
to send the file to CF but when it gets there it's an empty file because
it never existed on the client's machine.  I think that if users add on
file extensions to the file names (ie. MyWordDocument.doc) where on a
Mac it would normally just be called MyWordDocument that will fix it.
Or maybe it's the opposite.  Do a google search for "No data was
received in the uploaded file" and you'll find some results of people
having the same issues.  I hope that helps.


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 12:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Saving empty (zero-length) files is prohibited.

I've had many errors thrown, since upgrading to CFMX, when uploading a
file. The error looks something like this... 

No data was received in the uploaded file "NatGeo.webloc".
Saving empty (zero-length) files is prohibited.
Verify that you specified the correct file.

I took a look at the open source ColdFusion File Manager demo
(http://www.webworksllc.com/cffm/cffm.cfm) and noticed that there's
doesn't throw an error with the same file. Further research showed that
it's probably because they're on Linux, while i'm on IIS/Win2k. I
downloaded their code to my IIS box and it threw the same error.

This file is on a Mac, and the Finder shows that it has 462 bytes. The
terminal shows it as zero bytes though. My guess would be due to some
sort of resource fork or other Mac weirdness. But the error is not
simply on Macs. I have had users on WinNT 4 and 5 using IE to upload
Word docs when it threw the same error. Could it be an open file issue,
or locked file, or some other craziness?

On the server side this is a file system issue. CF5 didn't throw the
error when i uploaded that file, it simply thinks that i didn't upload a
file at all. Anyone have a solution for this, other than simple error
catching? 

thanks. ... .joe



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RE: Default Instance Values in CFC Bean

2005-01-04 Thread Dawson, Michael
Barney said, "I much prefer a validate() method separate from the
individual getters and setters."

Sean pretty much said the same thing.

I can understand the reasoning behind these comments and I like the fact
that I can wrap up temporary storage of data PLUS validation of that
same data, all in one object.  That makes it very handy to carry around
for multiple purposes.

On the other hand, that is where the limitation is, in my mind.

Let's say I have a user-related object with the following instance
variables:

UserBean.cfc
ID#
SSN
BirthDate
FirstName
LastName
Email

I also have the setters and getters for each instance variable.  These
are all string data types.

In addition, I have a validate() method that checks, obviously, for
valid data.

I want to reuse this same user-related CFC for multiple purposes.  One
use is with a DAO to manage the database operations.  This requires me
to fill "all" variables and validate them.

My other use is to wrap up "some" instance variables, but not all, for a
completely different use, but still user related.  For example, I only
need to pass FirstName, LastName and Email.  Rather than create a new
bean with only these instance variables, I just want to use "part" of my
UserBean CFC.

This is all fine until I run the validate() method.  Then, it will tell
me that ID, SSN and BirthDate are required and/or not of the necessary
data type.

This leads me back to Roland's comment where he uses a struct as a data
object and not an entire CFC.  In Roland's case, his struct can't
validate itself as a CFC can.  Therefore, he must do validation outside
of the data struct.

On the other hand, a struct can't define itself using an init() like a
CFC can. (Unless you write a function that returns a struct with empty
keys.)

To sum it up, how can I use a bean-type CFC to pass several data
elements, validate the data, yet still not "always" require validation?

Thanks
MAD

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RE: ASP Query

2005-01-04 Thread Adrian Lynch
You haven't closed the parenthesis...

SQLstr = "INSERT INTO projectSupportDoc (fileName, projectID) VALUES ('" & n
& "','" & Request.QueryString("pid") &"')"

Ade

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Sent: 04 January 2005 20:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: ASP Query


is this something wrong with this query?

SQLstr = "INSERT INTO projectSupportDoc (fileName, projectID) VALUES ('" & n
& "','" & Request.QueryString("pid") &"'"


the complete code is

SQLstr = "INSERT INTO projectSupportDoc (fileName, projectID) VALUES ('" & n
& "','" & Request.QueryString("pid") &"'"
Set dbrs = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.RecordSet")
dbrs.Open SQLstr, dbConn, , , adCmdText
dbrs.Close
Set dbrs = Nothing

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Re: ASP Query

2005-01-04 Thread Joe Rinehart
Yes:

1.  The ( around VALUES needs a closing )
2.  It allows SQL Injection
3.  Why is it in ASP?

-Joe


On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 16:16:50 -0400, Asim Manzur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> is this something wrong with this query?
> 
> SQLstr = "INSERT INTO projectSupportDoc (fileName, projectID) VALUES ('" & n 
> & "','" & Request.QueryString("pid") &"'"
> 
> the complete code is
> 
> SQLstr = "INSERT INTO projectSupportDoc (fileName, projectID) VALUES ('" & n 
> & "','" & Request.QueryString("pid") &"'"
> Set dbrs = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.RecordSet")
> dbrs.Open SQLstr, dbConn, , , adCmdText
> dbrs.Close
> Set dbrs = Nothing
> 
> please someone help.
> 
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RE: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Burns, John D
I'm a little confused as to why on the list of products and points
DevNet is listed as a product.  I'm assuming this is just how things
have been handled internally and the documentation is just now getting
pushed out to the public but it seems it could use a little cleaning up
if the object is to avoid confusion. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

On Jan 4, 2005, at 9:09 AM, Alex Sherwood wrote:

> Any idea why MACR would do this?

Macromedia is consolidating subscription programs.  Right now, there is
MVLP (Macromedia Volume Licensing Program), DevNet, Studio, and
subscription programs that we have taken on through acquisitions.  It's
confusing for customers and expensive for Macromedia.  It's like code
re-factoring, but in a business/sales sense.

You should be able to find answers to all your questions here:

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/

Any issues that are not answered on the Macromedia website can be
emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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ASP Query

2005-01-04 Thread Asim Manzur
is this something wrong with this query?

SQLstr = "INSERT INTO projectSupportDoc (fileName, projectID) VALUES ('" & n & 
"','" & Request.QueryString("pid") &"'"


the complete code is 

SQLstr = "INSERT INTO projectSupportDoc (fileName, projectID) VALUES ('" & n & 
"','" & Request.QueryString("pid") &"'"
Set dbrs = Server.CreateObject("ADODB.RecordSet")
dbrs.Open SQLstr, dbConn, , , adCmdText
dbrs.Close
Set dbrs = Nothing

please someone help. 

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:44:45 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I don't know if there's a good, free online resource for introductory
> learning about CFCs: there's probably some tutorials at Macromedia,
> and a number of us post on CFCs frequently on our blogs.

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/building.htm

http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/cfcs.html

http://www.sitepoint.com/print/components-introduction

> The ColdFusion WACK by Ben Forta and Hal Helms' Discovering CFCs

Be aware that both of those address CFMX 6.0 and are therefore based
on what is considered extremely bad practice nowadays (because 6.0 did
not support the good practices that 6.1 introduced). Both books talk
about using THIS scope and make no mention of declaring local
variables with VAR (because 6.0 didn't support it and didn't have the
non-public VARIABLES scope).
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Re: "upgrade" site from FB2 to FB>2

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 08:29:08 -0500, Katz, Dov B (IT)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does someone have an sample code in both fb2 and mach-ii/fb4 etc which I
> could compare the code

I will be speaking at various conferences and CFUGs this year with a
talk called "Frameworks: Mach II or Fusebox 4.x?" where I will show
the pros and cons of both frameworks in the context of a simple,
real-world application built with both frameworks (and, in fact, in
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Re: "upgrade" site from FB2 to FB>2

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 09:44:53 -0500, Joe Rinehart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As far as FB4 vs. mach-ii performance goes, I don't have a
> side-by-side app to compare with.  However, I'd guess that any
> noticeable performance difference is likely to be negated by the
> overhead of the application you develop.

Yes, sort of. See the comments on this blog entry:

http://www.corfield.org/blog/index.cfm?do=blog.entry&entry=6982F5D1-D176-D47C-D1FED9B36140E86F

You can compare rendering times side-by-side using the FB4 URL and the
hacked-together Mach II URL:

site home page:

http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=home.main
http://www.corfield.org/MachII/mach-ii.cfm?MACHII_CONFIG_PATH=/vservers/corfield/htdocs/config/mach-ii-cf.xml&event=bookstore.main&myself=x

bookstore page:

http://www.corfield.org/index.cfm?fuseaction=bookstore.main
http://www.corfield.org/MachII/mach-ii.cfm?MACHII_CONFIG_PATH=/vservers/corfield/htdocs/config/mach-ii-cf.xml&event=bookstore.main&myself=x

(Yes, this uses exactly the same model and view code for a Mach II app
and a Fusebox 4.1 app)
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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Joe Rinehart
Hi Donna,

I don't know if there's a good, free online resource for introductory
learning about CFCs: there's probably some tutorials at Macromedia,
and a number of us post on CFCs frequently on our blogs.

The ColdFusion WACK by Ben Forta and Hal Helms' Discovering CFCs
(http://www.techspedition.com/store/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=3)  are
probably the best bets for learning about the syntax and mechanics of
CFCs.  The second book also focuses somewhat on the more important
question:  why to use CFCs.

It's much more important to understand Why than How.

Hope this helps?

-Joe



On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:29:44 -0600, Donna French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone point me to good resources online to learn more about
> CFC's? I've been reading a couple at EasyCFM.com but wanted to read
> some more and see more examples before I start trying to implement
> them.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Donna French
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Blog: http://dgfrench.blogspot.com
> Site: http://www.dgfrenchdesigns.com
> 
> 

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Brian Kotek
Sorry, CFCDev is at:

http://www.cfczone.org/listserv.cfm


On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:42:40 -0500, Brian Kotek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The best resource is probably the CFCDev mailing list. In addition,
> check out Sean's blog, his two development guides (CF and Mach-II), as
> well as some of the Mach-II and Fusebox 4 sample applications.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:29:44 -0600, Donna French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can anyone point me to good resources online to learn more about
> > CFC's? I've been reading a couple at EasyCFM.com but wanted to read
> > some more and see more examples before I start trying to implement
> > them.
> >
> > TIA,
> >
> > Donna French
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Blog: http://dgfrench.blogspot.com
> > Site: http://www.dgfrenchdesigns.com
> >
> > 

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Re: Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Brian Kotek
The best resource is probably the CFCDev mailing list. In addition,
check out Sean's blog, his two development guides (CF and Mach-II), as
well as some of the Mach-II and Fusebox 4 sample applications.


On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:29:44 -0600, Donna French <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Can anyone point me to good resources online to learn more about
> CFC's? I've been reading a couple at EasyCFM.com but wanted to read
> some more and see more examples before I start trying to implement
> them.
> 
> TIA,
> 
> Donna French
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Blog: http://dgfrench.blogspot.com
> Site: http://www.dgfrenchdesigns.com
> 
> 

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Resources for learning CFC's ?

2005-01-04 Thread Donna French
Can anyone point me to good resources online to learn more about
CFC's? I've been reading a couple at EasyCFM.com but wanted to read
some more and see more examples before I start trying to implement
them.

TIA,

Donna French
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Calvin Ward
Oh, it's definitely not easier to understand.


I really dislike the shift from developer support to whatever it is now.


DevNet was supposed to be more than just a way of renewing software wasn't it?


- Calvin

-Original Message-
From:  Ben Rogers
Date:  1/4/05 2:28 pm
To:  CF-Talk 
Subj:  RE: The Death of DevNet :-(

Let me get this straight. For DevNet subscribers such as myself, the upgrade
path is the "Volume License Program", which seems to use a convoluted
sliding point scale to determine price? That's supposed to be less
confusing?

  http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/vlo/

I've been surfing the Macromedia site for the past hour trying to figure out
exactly how much what I used to have will cost in the future and I still
don't know. Looks like I have to call the Macromedia Call Center just to get
a price quote.

Ben Rogers
http://www.c4.net
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057

> -Original Message-
> From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: The Death of DevNet :-(
> 
> On Jan 4, 2005, at 9:09 AM, Alex Sherwood wrote:
> 
> > Any idea why MACR would do this?
> 
> Macromedia is consolidating subscription programs.  Right now, there is
> MVLP (Macromedia Volume Licensing Program), DevNet, Studio, and
> subscription programs that we have taken on through acquisitions.  It's
> confusing for customers and expensive for Macromedia.  It's like code
> re-factoring, but in a business/sales sense.
> 
> You should be able to find answers to all your questions here:
> 
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/
> 
> Any issues that are not answered on the Macromedia website can be
> emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 17:36:37 +0100, Jochem van Dieten
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> James Smith wrote:
> > Ok, aparenntly everyone is having a bad day and doesn't want to give me a
> > simple answer.
> Sean gave you the simple and correct answer. You choose not to
> accept it.

Thank you Jochem. I fired off my response as soon as I saw James'
question - before I'd even gotten out of bed, in fact - and I was
genuinely trying to be helpful and give him the simplest but
informative answer possible.

James, I'm sorry you don't like the answers you are getting but
instead of assuming we're having a bad day - which I wasn't until I
saw your response - perhaps you could assume that we're trying to
*help*? It's responses like yours that make people throw up their
hands and think "Fine, maybe I just won't bother trying to help these
people".
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RE: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Ben Rogers
Let me get this straight. For DevNet subscribers such as myself, the upgrade
path is the "Volume License Program", which seems to use a convoluted
sliding point scale to determine price? That's supposed to be less
confusing?

  http://www.macromedia.com/buy/volume_license/vlo/

I've been surfing the Macromedia site for the past hour trying to figure out
exactly how much what I used to have will cost in the future and I still
don't know. Looks like I have to call the Macromedia Call Center just to get
a price quote.

Ben Rogers
http://www.c4.net
v.508.240.0051
f.508.240.0057

> -Original Message-
> From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 1:29 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: The Death of DevNet :-(
> 
> On Jan 4, 2005, at 9:09 AM, Alex Sherwood wrote:
> 
> > Any idea why MACR would do this?
> 
> Macromedia is consolidating subscription programs.  Right now, there is
> MVLP (Macromedia Volume Licensing Program), DevNet, Studio, and
> subscription programs that we have taken on through acquisitions.  It's
> confusing for customers and expensive for Macromedia.  It's like code
> re-factoring, but in a business/sales sense.
> 
> You should be able to find answers to all your questions here:
> 
> http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/subscriptions/
> 
> Any issues that are not answered on the Macromedia website can be
> emailed to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> 

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Re: How'd www.firstnight.org do over new years?

2005-01-04 Thread Jim Davis
>> -Original Message-
>
>There are several reasons:

One important reason I forgot: stats like this wouldn't really be all that 
useful without something to compare them to.  They might be interesting in and 
of themselves but not useful for planning or mapping trends.

However when you collect several years of worth stats from something like this 
it becomes much more interesting (at least to me).  I've got the logs from the 
past four (or maybe five years) for this site.  The trends visible across them 
relating to browsers, monitor resolutions, search engine popularity and the 
like are pretty interesting (again, at least to me).

Lastly saving the logs means I've got some great test cases for statistics 
engines.  For example the log file for the last week of December run about 
13Gig total.  They provide a nice workout for any analysis engine or string 
parsing routines.  ;^)

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Re: Oracle, CLOB and CFMX 6.1

2005-01-04 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Sorry, I can't help you much, I spent about a month testing the Oracle
9i driver with CFMX and ran into alot of random issues like the one
you've mentioned. However I'm not saying the DataDirect driver is all
that, because imho it is shit as well, but when it comes to CF/Oracle
integration there is more support and help with the supplied driver.

Are both datasources running in the same instance of CF? I'm just
wondering if reinstalling the drivers might solve the problem, however
if its the same instance you may want to start examining the
differences in the schema.

This is a complete stab in the dark, but sometimes this helps if there
is some weird data corruption error... wrap the column name in
COMPOSE() to covert it to unicode. Ive had instances where the clob
could be pulled in SQL*Plus and TOAD, but would lock up the thread if
pulled through the DataDirect drivers. COMPOSE() seemed to do
something to the data when it converted it to unicode that made CF
happy. Again, it's most likely the crappy dataDirect drivers.

-Adam

On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 13:19:26 -0400, Doug Bezona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Are you using the supplied dataDirect thin driver? If so have you run
> >the 6.1 updater for the latest version?
> 
> No, the Oracle supplied thin driver.
> 
> >How are you pulling the CLOBs? Are you using cfstoredproc or cfquery?
> 
> cfquery
> 
> >Are clobs enabled for the datasource via the CF Admin?
> 
> yes
> 
> 

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ENOM COM

2005-01-04 Thread Emmet McGovern
Has anyone written a interface for the Enom.EnomURL COM object yet?  I've
been putting this on the backburner for sometime and am finally forced to
look into it.  Just checking to see if there's anything out there yet.

Emmet



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Re: How'd www.firstnight.org do over new years?

2005-01-04 Thread Jim Davis
>When you say "a large amount of traffic" how many people are you
>talking?  I'm just curious. 

It was in my long posting, but here's the relevant bit:

"The end result for the 31st was 5,393,594 Requests ("hits") which translates 
to 231,286 page views and 35,048 visits (as reported by SmarterStats).  We 
transferred about 15Gig of data.  Over 50% of that traffic was from 
9:30am-1:30pm."

For the busiest time that's about 29,000 page views an hour (around 8 pages a 
second).

Of course "large amount" is relative.  I've worked on enteprise sites that get 
more traffic, but not many that get this kind of traffic regulary.  (In fact 
most enteprise sites get far less traffic that you might expect.) 

But for a small non-profit site I think this is very large.  ;^)  Of course the 
whole point is that this kind of traffic is seen for only one day year.  Thus 
the issues with hosting and resource planning and money and so forth.

If this site were getting sustained traffic at this rate I've no doubt we could 
find some way for it to finance itself.

Jim Davis

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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Christian Cantrell
On Jan 4, 2005, at 9:09 AM, Alex Sherwood wrote:

> Any idea why MACR would do this?

Macromedia is consolidating subscription programs.  Right now, there is 
MVLP (Macromedia Volume Licensing Program), DevNet, Studio, and 
subscription programs that we have taken on through acquisitions.  It's 
confusing for customers and expensive for Macromedia.  It's like code 
re-factoring, but in a business/sales sense.

You should be able to find answers to all your questions here:

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Any issues that are not answered on the Macromedia website can be 
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Re: OT: query optimization

2005-01-04 Thread Paul Malan
> 
> Did the execution plan change?

Nope, no change in the execution plan between the two queries you sent.

(Hopefully these books I ordered will cover the execution plan stuff
so I can learn to make heads or tails of what it's telling me!)

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Re: Oracle, CLOB and CFMX 6.1

2005-01-04 Thread Doug Bezona
>Are you using the supplied dataDirect thin driver? If so have you run
>the 6.1 updater for the latest version?

No, the Oracle supplied thin driver.

>How are you pulling the CLOBs? Are you using cfstoredproc or cfquery?

cfquery

>Are clobs enabled for the datasource via the CF Admin?

yes

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Re: Oracle, CLOB and CFMX 6.1

2005-01-04 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Are you using the supplied dataDirect thin driver? If so have you run
the 6.1 updater for the latest version?

How are you pulling the CLOBs? Are you using cfstoredproc or cfquery?
If you are using cfstoredproc are you pulling the clobs via a ref
cursor or a direct OUT variable?

Are clobs enabled for the datasource via the CF Admin?

-Adam


On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 12:23:36 -0400, Doug Bezona <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Howdy,
> So I have encountered a rather unusual little issue. We are moving a couple 
> of sites to a new server environment. Both apps are fairly text-heavy and 
> each have CLOB fields. They are both using the same Oracle server, but with 
> different schemas.
> 
> The server is Oracle 9i (not sure of the exact version, sorry), and CFMX is 
> connecting via the Oracle thin JDBC driver.
> 
> Both datasources (from the CF perspective) are set up identically.
> 
> One app is displaying the CLOB fields fine.
> 
> The other is only displaying "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"
> 
> Has anyone encountered this sort of thing before? Any ideas on how to resolve 
> it?
> 
> Thanks
> Doug
> 
> 

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Saving empty (zero-length) files is prohibited.

2005-01-04 Thread joe hobson
I've had many errors thrown, since upgrading to CFMX, when uploading a file. 
The error looks something like this... 

No data was received in the uploaded file "NatGeo.webloc".
Saving empty (zero-length) files is prohibited.
Verify that you specified the correct file.

I took a look at the open source ColdFusion File Manager demo 
(http://www.webworksllc.com/cffm/cffm.cfm) and noticed that there's doesn't 
throw an error with the same file. Further research showed that it's probably 
because they're on Linux, while i'm on IIS/Win2k. I downloaded their code to my 
IIS box and it threw the same error.

This file is on a Mac, and the Finder shows that it has 462 bytes. The terminal 
shows it as zero bytes though. My guess would be due to some sort of resource 
fork or other Mac weirdness. But the error is not simply on Macs. I have had 
users on WinNT 4 and 5 using IE to upload Word docs when it threw the same 
error. Could it be an open file issue, or locked file, or some other craziness?

On the server side this is a file system issue. CF5 didn't throw the error when 
i uploaded that file, it simply thinks that i didn't upload a file at all. 
Anyone have a solution for this, other than simple error catching? 

thanks. ... .joe

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Re: Simple HelpDesk Application in CF

2005-01-04 Thread Chris Peters
If you want something where users can email their problems directly into the 
Help Desk system, I recommend this free program:

http://bestpractical.com/rt/

>Does anyone know of a SIMPLE help desk and "trouble ticket" application (or
>module)
>that is free or very low cost?
>
>Also looking for simple "assembly or production" application for generating
>"pick lists,"
>packing lists, and shipping labels, etc.
>
>These would need to somewhere between "free" to very low cost.
>
>Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>TNX.
>
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Re: FB2 to FB4 migration

2005-01-04 Thread Rebecca Wells
I'm going through this same process. I ran into the same problem as you with 
all the examples showing FB3 to FB4. So I took a class on FB4 and now it really 
isn't so scary. 

One thing I have discovered is that the "myglobals" file in FB4 is the 
equivalent of the app_locals file in FB2, with the addition of setting vars for 
"self" and "myself". You can still use it to set your request.stylesheet, 
request.title, DSN vars, etc.

Sorry, I can't help you with comparing FB4 with Mach-II.

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Oracle, CLOB and CFMX 6.1

2005-01-04 Thread Doug Bezona
Howdy,
So I have encountered a rather unusual little issue. We are moving a couple of 
sites to a new server environment. Both apps are fairly text-heavy and each 
have CLOB fields. They are both using the same Oracle server, but with 
different schemas. 

The server is Oracle 9i (not sure of the exact version, sorry), and CFMX is 
connecting via the Oracle thin JDBC driver.

Both datasources (from the CF perspective) are set up identically. 

One app is displaying the CLOB fields fine.

The other is only displaying "[EMAIL PROTECTED]"

Has anyone encountered this sort of thing before? Any ideas on how to resolve 
it?

Thanks
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Re: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
James Smith wrote:
> 
> The lack of a middle mouse button procludes them clicking with it, and as I
> said the Ctrl button requires a second hand that the users don't want to
> use.
> 
> While I agree it is not the most effective use of money, it is there money
> and they want to spend it.

If we are not talking thousands of users, they might want to 
spend it here: 
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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread James Smith
> > My users are not developers, geeks, or any other breed of
> > user who know how to set up these things.
> 
> If your users are unable to use the middle mouse button or to 
> press control while clicking you are in serious need of better 
> users. IMHO, investing more resources on finding a workaround to 
> save them a few clicks is not money well spend.

The lack of a middle mouse button procludes them clicking with it, and as I
said the Ctrl button requires a second hand that the users don't want to
use.

While I agree it is not the most effective use of money, it is there money
and they want to spend it.

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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Dave Watts
> Ok, aparenntly everyone is having a bad day and doesn't want 
> to give me a simple answer.  My users are not developers, 
> geeks, or any other breed of user who know how to set up 
> these things.  It is all most of them can do to figure out 
> the power button.

No one's having a bad day. The only simple answer is "no". More complicated
answers are essentially, "probably not except within certain narrow
circumstances".

> Question
> Is there any way, by target, JS, or any other means, of 
> opening a link in a new tab in firefox.

No.

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Re: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
James Smith wrote:
> Ok, aparenntly everyone is having a bad day and doesn't want to give me a
> simple answer.

Sean gave you the simple and correct answer. You choose not to 
accept it.


> My users are not developers, geeks, or any other breed of
> user who know how to set up these things.

If your users are unable to use the middle mouse button or to 
press control while clicking you are in serious need of better 
users. IMHO, investing more resources on finding a workaround to 
save them a few clicks is not money well spend.

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Re: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Alex Sherwood
IMHO, this is a bad design choice on behalf of Mozilla.

As a developer, you should be able to specify where link opens via 
JavaScript. If the use has the defaults set in the browser, then the JS 
code gets presedence. If they have window opening params explicitly set, 
the page opens where they'd like it to be.

This is how CSS works! Users can always override stylesheets in pages 
with browser settings.

It's a shame not to be able to spawn new tabs programmatically.


Adkins, Randy wrote:

>Simple answer: NO
>
>_Blank opens in a new window  
>
>  
>

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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread James Smith
> How about just telling them to hold down the control button 
> while clicking the link.  Surely even your users aren't that silly. ;)

Wana bet! This is the method I have been using so far, but I have had
complaints from users that while on the phone they don't want to use both
hands, one on the Kbd, one on the mouse.  Some of my users are really
special

SELECT * FROM users WHERE clue > 0;
0 rows returned

> You could even include a control button image for those 
> text-challenged.

Nice idea ;-)

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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Ian Skinner
ANSWER: NO

There is no special HTML or JS just for Firefox.  If you provide "_blank" it 
will open in a new window in the default configuration of Firefox, IIRC.  I 
have long since customized mine.  So realize that you can only provide a 
suggestion, not absolutely control how your new window is going to behave.



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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Stuart Kidd
How about just telling them to hold down the control button while clicking the 
link.  Surely even your users aren't that silly. ;)

You could even include a control button image for those text-challenged.


-- Original Message --
From: "James Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date:  Tue, 4 Jan 2005 16:21:52 -

>Ok, aparenntly everyone is having a bad day and doesn't want to give me a
>simple answer.  My users are not developers, geeks, or any other breed of
>user who know how to set up these things.  It is all most of them can do to
>figure out the power button.
>
>Assume that
>1) I can't be bothered configuring all the clients individually to open
>"_blank"'s as a new tab, expecially as most of the time "_blank" needs to
>open a new window.
>2) Even with step by step instructions my users couldn't configure a piss up
>in a brewery.
>
>Question
>Is there any way, by target, JS, or any other means, of opening a link in a
>new tab in firefox.
>
>--
>Jay
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> Sent: 04 January 2005 16:13
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Firefox Tabs
>> 
>> James Smith wrote:
>> > A user can always open a link in a new window with the 
>> application of 
>> > a right click, just like a firefox user can open a new tab with the 
>> > right mouse button.
>> > 
>> > However I have the ability to set target="_blank" on a link and the 
>> > link will open in a new window
>> 
>> Not in my browser :-)
>> 
>> 
>> > If the answer to the question is no just say so but don't 
>> try to turn 
>> > it into a control issue when it isn't.
>> 
>> It is a control issue. I can set 
>> browser.block.target_new_window to true in *my* browser and 
>> _blank will not open a new window anymore. There is nothing a 
>> web developer can do about that, just as a web developer can 
>> define all the onunload events he wants, but they won't run 
>> in my browser.
>> 
>> My browser, my rules.
>> 
>> 
>> > I am just trying to make it easier for the users of our 
>> intranet and 
>> > reduce the number of clicks they perform from certain reports where 
>> > new tabs are ALWAYS used.
>> 
>> Have them set browser.block.target_new_window or send them a 
>> memo to use the middle mouse button :-)
>> 
>> Jochem
>> 
>> 
>
>

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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Adkins, Randy
Simple answer: NO

_Blank opens in a new window  

-Original Message-
From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:22 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Firefox Tabs

Ok, aparenntly everyone is having a bad day and doesn't want to give me
a simple answer.  My users are not developers, geeks, or any other breed
of user who know how to set up these things.  It is all most of them can
do to figure out the power button.

Assume that
1) I can't be bothered configuring all the clients individually to open
"_blank"'s as a new tab, expecially as most of the time "_blank" needs
to open a new window.
2) Even with step by step instructions my users couldn't configure a
piss up in a brewery.

Question
Is there any way, by target, JS, or any other means, of opening a link
in a new tab in firefox.

--
Jay

> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 January 2005 16:13
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Firefox Tabs
> 
> James Smith wrote:
> > A user can always open a link in a new window with the
> application of
> > a right click, just like a firefox user can open a new tab with the 
> > right mouse button.
> > 
> > However I have the ability to set target="_blank" on a link and the 
> > link will open in a new window
> 
> Not in my browser :-)
> 
> 
> > If the answer to the question is no just say so but don't
> try to turn
> > it into a control issue when it isn't.
> 
> It is a control issue. I can set
> browser.block.target_new_window to true in *my* browser and _blank 
> will not open a new window anymore. There is nothing a web developer 
> can do about that, just as a web developer can define all the onunload

> events he wants, but they won't run in my browser.
> 
> My browser, my rules.
> 
> 
> > I am just trying to make it easier for the users of our
> intranet and
> > reduce the number of clicks they perform from certain reports where 
> > new tabs are ALWAYS used.
> 
> Have them set browser.block.target_new_window or send them a memo to 
> use the middle mouse button :-)
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 



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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread James Smith
> > Have them set browser.block.target_new_window or send them 
> a memo to 
> > use the middle mouse button :-)
> 
> http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Firefox_:_FAQs_:_A
> bout:config_Entries

Nice idea, and the closest I have had to a simple answer, but unfortunately
not all of them have middle buttons.

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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread James Smith
Ok, aparenntly everyone is having a bad day and doesn't want to give me a
simple answer.  My users are not developers, geeks, or any other breed of
user who know how to set up these things.  It is all most of them can do to
figure out the power button.

Assume that
1) I can't be bothered configuring all the clients individually to open
"_blank"'s as a new tab, expecially as most of the time "_blank" needs to
open a new window.
2) Even with step by step instructions my users couldn't configure a piss up
in a brewery.

Question
Is there any way, by target, JS, or any other means, of opening a link in a
new tab in firefox.

--
Jay

> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 04 January 2005 16:13
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Firefox Tabs
> 
> James Smith wrote:
> > A user can always open a link in a new window with the 
> application of 
> > a right click, just like a firefox user can open a new tab with the 
> > right mouse button.
> > 
> > However I have the ability to set target="_blank" on a link and the 
> > link will open in a new window
> 
> Not in my browser :-)
> 
> 
> > If the answer to the question is no just say so but don't 
> try to turn 
> > it into a control issue when it isn't.
> 
> It is a control issue. I can set 
> browser.block.target_new_window to true in *my* browser and 
> _blank will not open a new window anymore. There is nothing a 
> web developer can do about that, just as a web developer can 
> define all the onunload events he wants, but they won't run 
> in my browser.
> 
> My browser, my rules.
> 
> 
> > I am just trying to make it easier for the users of our 
> intranet and 
> > reduce the number of clicks they perform from certain reports where 
> > new tabs are ALWAYS used.
> 
> Have them set browser.block.target_new_window or send them a 
> memo to use the middle mouse button :-)
> 
> Jochem
> 
> 

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RE: Simple HelpDesk Application in CF

2005-01-04 Thread Mark Leder
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My client is thrilled with the product.  Well written using CFCs.
Worth the price, saves you days of programming.
Support is good as well.

Mark 

-Original Message-
From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 11:14 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Simple HelpDesk Application in CF

We used a simple forum for ticketing.  Got a new problem?  Start a new
thread.

Useful when it's just developers working, and maybe a handful of good
clients.  Not useful for general release.

--Ben

Richard Colman wrote:
>  
> Does anyone know of a SIMPLE help desk and "trouble ticket" 
> application (or
> module)
> that is free or very low cost?
> 
> Also looking for simple "assembly or production" application for 
> generating "pick lists,"
> packing lists, and shipping labels, etc.
> 
> These would need to somewhere between "free" to very low cost.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> TNX.
> 
> Rick Colman
> 
> 
> 
> 



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Re: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> James Smith wrote:
>> 
>> I am just trying to make it easier for
>> the users of our intranet and reduce the number of clicks they perform from
>> certain reports where new tabs are ALWAYS used.
> 
> Have them set browser.block.target_new_window or send them a memo 
> to use the middle mouse button :-)

http://kb.mozillazine.org/index.phtml?title=Firefox_:_FAQs_:_About:config_Entries

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Re: Simple HelpDesk Application in CF

2005-01-04 Thread Ben Doom
We used a simple forum for ticketing.  Got a new problem?  Start a new 
thread.

Useful when it's just developers working, and maybe a handful of good 
clients.  Not useful for general release.

--Ben

Richard Colman wrote:
>  
> Does anyone know of a SIMPLE help desk and "trouble ticket" application (or
> module)
> that is free or very low cost?
> 
> Also looking for simple "assembly or production" application for generating
> "pick lists,"
> packing lists, and shipping labels, etc.
> 
> These would need to somewhere between "free" to very low cost.
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> 
> TNX.
> 
> Rick Colman
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Re: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Jochem van Dieten
James Smith wrote:
> A user can always open a link in a new window with the application of a
> right click, just like a firefox user can open a new tab with the right
> mouse button.
> 
> However I have the ability to set target="_blank" on a link and the link
> will open in a new window

Not in my browser :-)


> If the answer to the question is no just say so but don't try to turn it
> into a control issue when it isn't.

It is a control issue. I can set browser.block.target_new_window 
to true in *my* browser and _blank will not open a new window 
anymore. There is nothing a web developer can do about that, just 
as a web developer can define all the onunload events he wants, 
but they won't run in my browser.

My browser, my rules.


> I am just trying to make it easier for
> the users of our intranet and reduce the number of clicks they perform from
> certain reports where new tabs are ALWAYS used.

Have them set browser.block.target_new_window or send them a memo 
to use the middle mouse button :-)

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Re: My Init() in my CFC...am I on the right track?

2005-01-04 Thread Troy Murray
Per Hal Helms himself-

"Yes, Troy. I've begun work on a new book, "Designing OO Applications with
ColdFusion CFCs" that I hope will be helpful."

-t


On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 12:25:21 -0500, Jeff Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Sean,
> >
> > Someone should contact Hal and see if he has plans to update the book
> > for Blackstone.
> >
> > That book got me started on CFC's and I bet that  a lot of people on
> > this list would purchase the sequel.
> >
> >
> > Rick Mason
> 
> Dude...sign me UP. I'm getting tired of scouring bookmarks...lol. Even with
> Blackstone coming out, there will still be people using 6.1 for a long time,
> and the *principles* behind the book should be sound for 6.1 and
> Blackstone...syntax would change of course, but I would imagine you could
> take the ideas and still apply them to 6.1 from a Blackstone book...at least
> I'd hope.
> 
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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Ian Skinner
However I have the ability to set target="_blank" on a link and the link will 
open in a new window, transferring control to me.

...

--
Jay

You only some control over what is displayed in my browser. Firefox renders the 
same HTML, but it gives users more control over how that HTML is rendered.  So 
the basic answer is that you use the same "_blank" property value.  

Then I can decide how that new "window" is displayed in my Firefox, my choice 
are to block it, to have it open in a new instance of Firefox (AKA a New 
Window), or a new tab in the existing window.  And there is little you can do 
about my choice.


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Simple HelpDesk Application in CF

2005-01-04 Thread Richard Colman
 
Does anyone know of a SIMPLE help desk and "trouble ticket" application (or
module)
that is free or very low cost?

Also looking for simple "assembly or production" application for generating
"pick lists,"
packing lists, and shipping labels, etc.

These would need to somewhere between "free" to very low cost.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

TNX.

Rick Colman



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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Pascal Peters
This isn't entirely correct. If a link has target="_blank" and I click
on it, it will open in a new tab (because I set it up that way)

Pascal

> -Original Message-
> From: James Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 04 January 2005 17:03
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Firefox Tabs
> 
> A user can always open a link in a new window with the application of
a
> right click, just like a firefox user can open a new tab with the
right
> mouse button.
> 
> However I have the ability to set target="_blank" on a link and the
link
> will open in a new window, transferring control to me.

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RE: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread James Smith
A user can always open a link in a new window with the application of a
right click, just like a firefox user can open a new tab with the right
mouse button.

However I have the ability to set target="_blank" on a link and the link
will open in a new window, transferring control to me.

If the answer to the question is no just say so but don't try to turn it
into a control issue when it isn't.  I am just trying to make it easier for
the users of our intranet and reduce the number of clicks they perform from
certain reports where new tabs are ALWAYS used.

--
Jay

> -Original Message-
> From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 04 January 2005 15:50
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Firefox Tabs
> 
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:45:47 -, James Smith 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Is there an equivalent to _blank that will open a link in a 
> new firefox tab?
> 
> It's entirely under user control - your users determine how 
> links / pages open, not you.
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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Dave Carabetta
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 10:27:51 -0500, Adrocknaphobia
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does this also mean the death of the DRK?
> 

No...The e-mail refers to the fact that we will "continue to receive
new versions of the software currently included in DevNet in your
portal, as well as the DevNet Resource Kits (DRKs) released throughout
the term of your subscription." which suggests to me that they are
going to continue.

While pure speculation on my part, I think the death of DevNet is just
a way to increase revenues across their product lines. If you think
about the cost of DevNet Professional (as low as $599 for one year if
you own a Studio MX and $699 if you own pretty much any Macromedia
product), it's less than a drop in the bucket relative to the total
cost of the individual products. And considering that you receive full
licenses (for one computer) of each IDE they distribute (Flash, DW,
Fireworks, FreeHand, Contribute), it's hard to generate substantial
revenue relative to the thousands of hours put in to each product. As
a subscriber, I'm a bit bummed it's going away, but I think it makes
good business sense for Macromedia. However, I'm glad they are
honoring the remainder of each account's subscription length instead
of just cutting people off.

Regards,
Dave.

Regards,
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Re: Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread Sean Corfield
On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 15:45:47 -, James Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Is there an equivalent to _blank that will open a link in a new firefox tab?

It's entirely under user control - your users determine how links /
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Firefox Tabs

2005-01-04 Thread James Smith
Is there an equivalent to _blank that will open a link in a new firefox tab?

--
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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Alex Sherwood
Adrocknaphobia wrote:

>Does this also mean the death of the DRK?
>
>-Adam
>
>
>  
>
Yup. DRK 13 will be the last and final one, in Oct. '05. R.I.P.

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Re: .jpg on the fly with CF

2005-01-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
I've done this in the past by setting the table background to the underlying 
image, and then drawing the overlaying image in the table as an 

This doesn't work for watermarking (since you want the overlay to be part of 
the image in case of "save image as"), but if you are just looking for visual 
effect, this works fine.

In the new, modern world of CSS, there are a number of ways to handle this as 
well.



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Dolan Media Company

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/04/05 10:25AM >>>
Actually Jerry, you could be right, are you thinking of just overlaying it 
using dhtml? I'll look at both options - it may look tidier if i did it on the 
fly but could be server heavy.



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Re: Well - I feel like an idiot.

2005-01-04 Thread Deanna Schneider
Hm. Interesting approach. It's not one that I would have thought of.

- Original Message - 
From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:01 AM
Subject: RE: Well - I feel like an idiot.


>> -Original Message-
>> From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:11 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: Re: Well - I feel like an idiot.
>>
>> >  For example
>> > it instantiates a session cache which is stowed in the application
>> scope.
>> >
>> Huh? But, you're using conditional logic to NOT RUN the intitialization 
>> of
>> the app once it's been run. So - everyone is going to use the first
>> person's
>> session. That doesn't make sense, either. Am I misunderstanding what
>> you're
>> saying?
>
> Either that or I'm not saying what I mean (which is probably more likely).
>
> Only the session cache is created in that block, not the session instance.
> See - doesn't THAT make more sense?  ;^)
>
> One of the first things the protected block does is instantiate an
> "Application" CFC and place it in the shared Application scope.  A 
> property
> of that object is "Sessions" (another CFC acting as a cache manager
> collection for session objects.
>
> Since this object is created during this time a second run through the 
> init
> process would eliminate the first one and create an empty new one.
>
> However OUTSIDE the initialization block (outside the lock) a custom
> "Session" CFC is instantiate and a reference to it is placed in the
> application-scoped session cache previously created.
>
> In other words the initialization of the Application (including the
> container for all session objects) is run only once for the whole
> application, but the initialization of the Session is run for each user.
>
> There's a lot more to the code, of course, but that the crux of the
> session-related instantiations.
>
> Jim Davis
>
>
>
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RE: Secure Email Access

2005-01-04 Thread Paul Vernon
I wrote CFX_POP3 Pro because CFPOP doesn't support SSL connections. Works a
treat for GETALL and GETHEADERONLY... 

http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_tag.cfm?ProductID=16

Interestingly, when testing some of the advanced functions of the CFX_POP3
tag against Gmail, I found a bug with the Gmail POP3 implementation. When
using the POP3 'TOP' command, their server marks the mail as read and you
can no longer retrieve it once that happens without going into the Gmail
interface and resetting the POP3 functions... 

The guys at Gmail have confirmed it as a bug but there is no ETA on when it
is going to be fixed... The only saving grace is that this this only affects
the spam filtering/scoring functions on the GETHEADERONLY action in CFX_POP3
so it's no great shakes if all you want to do is use standard CFPOP like
functionality :)

Paul


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Re: The Death of DevNet :-(

2005-01-04 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Does this also mean the death of the DRK?

-Adam


On Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:09:12 -0500, Alex Sherwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> According to an email distributed last evening, MACR is killing DevNet.
> StudiMX looks to be in decent condition with roughly $500 for a 2 year
> subscription.
> 
> The bummer is that the portal, with the bevy of servers and tools, will
> be nixed. I personally think this is a massive mistake. As a developer,
> I've found the portal to be an awesome resource. Looks like you'll still
> be able to develop with IP-restricted versions of server products after
> DevNet dies, but it was nice having the whole shebang in once nice spot.
> 
> Any idea why MACR would do this?
> 
> --
> Alex Sherwood
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> Web: www.phs-net.com
> 
> 

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Re: .jpg on the fly with CF

2005-01-04 Thread Stuart Kidd
Actually Jerry, you could be right, are you thinking of just overlaying it 
using dhtml? I'll look at both options - it may look tidier if i did it on the 
fly but could be server heavy.

Thanks to everyone for their help.  I will check out the sites i was sent.

Saturday.


-- Original Message --
From: "Jerry Johnson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Date:  Tue, 04 Jan 2005 09:48:54 -0500

>Do you really need to apply it to the image, or can you "overlay" it onto the 
>image?
>
>
>
>Jerry Johnson
>Web Developer
>Dolan Media Company
>
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/04/05 09:48AM >>>
>I'm just wondering if there is a way i can put a weather image (like a 'sun' 
>or a 'cloud' over the top of one of my graphics dynamically?  I'd like my app 
>to pull the weather from somewhere and then accordingly display an image on 
>top of one of my page images.
>
>
>
>

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RE: How'd www.firstnight.org do over new years?

2005-01-04 Thread Burns, John D
When you say "a large amount of traffic" how many people are you
talking?  I'm just curious. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
AI-ES Aeronautics, Web Developer

-Original Message-
From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: How'd www.firstnight.org do over new years?

> -Original Message-
> From: Jim McAtee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 3:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: How'd www.firstnight.org do over new years?
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jim Davis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" 
> Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 9:23 PM
> Subject: RE: How'd www.firstnight.org do over new years?
> 
> 
> > Anything else you'd like to know?
> 
> That was certainly fascinating, but why the particular fascination 
> with site stats for a web site that only has significant traffic for 
> 72 hours out of the year?

There are several reasons:

1) I love stats.  ;^)

2) The site does get traffic for only a few days, but in those few days
it gets a quite a bit of traffic.  This makes those stats great "point
in time"
stats.

3) The site is non-technical in focus and community oriented.  I feel
this means the stats are more representative of "average" computer users
(at least those in the Northeast) than other sites I work on.

> I'm guessing you must be volunteering your time.  You'd have saved 
> many, many hours of work by simply moving to a dedicated server a 
> couple of days prior to being swamped.  There are many situations 
> where no amount of hardware will overcome software design problems, 
> but by the same token, on badly underspec'd hardware you'll never 
> achieve satisfactory performance levels no matter how much time and 
> effort you put into optimizing the software.

Well, I not quite volunteering my time - I do get paid a flat yearly fee
for doing the site (a fee which works out to around $4 an hour for my
services).
;^)

As a non-profit it's very difficult to get them to spend money unless
there's a clear need.  Worry about the site going down isn't enough, the
site going down is.  Still, a dedicated server for one month is going to
cost them more than hosting for the entire year has.

There are only two of use that officially work on the site (myself and a
graphic designer).  With the changes requested this year (and the fact
that all materials were quite late) we didn't have time to do the
testing or optimization I would have liked to do.

In a weird way I'm glad the site had problems.  This is a perfect
defense for insisting a move to a dedicated server in early December
next year.  A move early enough to allow for some late night load
testing.

Jim Davis






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RE: Well - I feel like an idiot.

2005-01-04 Thread Jim Davis
> -Original Message-
> From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 8:11 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Well - I feel like an idiot.
> 
> >  For example
> > it instantiates a session cache which is stowed in the application
> scope.
> >
> Huh? But, you're using conditional logic to NOT RUN the intitialization of
> the app once it's been run. So - everyone is going to use the first
> person's
> session. That doesn't make sense, either. Am I misunderstanding what
> you're
> saying?

Either that or I'm not saying what I mean (which is probably more likely).

Only the session cache is created in that block, not the session instance.
See - doesn't THAT make more sense?  ;^)

One of the first things the protected block does is instantiate an
"Application" CFC and place it in the shared Application scope.  A property
of that object is "Sessions" (another CFC acting as a cache manager
collection for session objects.

Since this object is created during this time a second run through the init
process would eliminate the first one and create an empty new one.

However OUTSIDE the initialization block (outside the lock) a custom
"Session" CFC is instantiate and a reference to it is placed in the
application-scoped session cache previously created.

In other words the initialization of the Application (including the
container for all session objects) is run only once for the whole
application, but the initialization of the Session is run for each user.

There's a lot more to the code, of course, but that the crux of the
session-related instantiations.

Jim Davis



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RE: .jpg on the fly with CF

2005-01-04 Thread Katz, Dov B (IT)
I use ASPImage extensively for text/vector graphics as well as
overlaying images for  watermarking.
-Dov


-Original Message-
From: John Beynon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 9:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: .jpg on the fly with CF

try the Alagad image component. I know you can add text/vector graphics
to an image with it, not sure if you can insert an image into an image
though,

jb.


On Tue,  4 Jan 2005 09:48:11 -0500, Stuart Kidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> First up, happy new year to you all.
> 
> I'm just wondering if there is a way i can put a weather image (like a
'sun' or a 'cloud' over the top of one of my graphics dynamically?  I'd
like my app to pull the weather from somewhere and then accordingly
display an image on top of one of my page images.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Saturday
> 
> 



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Re: .jpg on the fly with CF

2005-01-04 Thread Jerry Johnson
Do you really need to apply it to the image, or can you "overlay" it onto the 
image?



Jerry Johnson
Web Developer
Dolan Media Company

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/04/05 09:48AM >>>
I'm just wondering if there is a way i can put a weather image (like a 'sun' or 
a 'cloud' over the top of one of my graphics dynamically?  I'd like my app to 
pull the weather from somewhere and then accordingly display an image on top of 
one of my page images.



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Re: .jpg on the fly with CF

2005-01-04 Thread John Beynon
ps. www.alagad.com


On Tue, 4 Jan 2005 14:54:53 +, John Beynon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> try the Alagad image component. I know you can add text/vector
> graphics to an image with it, not sure if you can insert an image into
> an image though,
> 
> jb.
> 
> 
> On Tue,  4 Jan 2005 09:48:11 -0500, Stuart Kidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > First up, happy new year to you all.
> >
> > I'm just wondering if there is a way i can put a weather image (like a 
> > 'sun' or a 'cloud' over the top of one of my graphics dynamically?  I'd 
> > like my app to pull the weather from somewhere and then accordingly display 
> > an image on top of one of my page images.
> >
> > Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Saturday
> >
> > 

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Re: .jpg on the fly with CF

2005-01-04 Thread John Beynon
try the Alagad image component. I know you can add text/vector
graphics to an image with it, not sure if you can insert an image into
an image though,

jb.


On Tue,  4 Jan 2005 09:48:11 -0500, Stuart Kidd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> First up, happy new year to you all.
> 
> I'm just wondering if there is a way i can put a weather image (like a 'sun' 
> or a 'cloud' over the top of one of my graphics dynamically?  I'd like my app 
> to pull the weather from somewhere and then accordingly display an image on 
> top of one of my page images.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Saturday
> 
> 

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