CF syntax for representing an XML document as a structure?

[Lawrence B. Afrin, M.D.]

Howdy --

I'm close to solving my UDDI problem, but I've got a syntax problem with 
structures that's stumping me.

The UDDI WSDL/XSD (see excerpts below) says the XML snippet below is a valid 
API call.  Datatype-wise, per the WSDL/XSD,
it's a complex datatype () within another complex datatype 
().  Only the string within the
 element is a simple string datatype.  Now, according to the CF docs, 
the only way to pass a complex datatype
from CF to a web service is to represent it in CF as a structure.  So, I have 
to transform this:


  Microsoft


into a CF structure that I'm going to pass as an input argument to the UDDI web 
service in my cfinvoke.  I discovered
that this structure code:

find_business = StructNew();
find_business.generic = "2.0";

properly defines the attribute "generic" in the outermost complextype.  So it's 
clear that what comes after the dot is
the name of an attribute.  But  isn't an attribute; it's a sub-element. 
 What syntax do I use to define within
the structure this inner "name" complextype element?  Doing this:

find_business.name = "Microsoft";

clearly isn't going to work, as that's just the equivalent of inserting another 
attribute, name="Microsoft", within the
find_business tag.  This doesn't work, either:

find_business.name = StructNew();

since then you're stuck with this syntax question:

find_business.name.whatwouldIputhere = "Microsoft";

So: Is it simply not possible in CF to represent the above 
complex-within-complex XML document as a CF structure?

And one other quick question: the UDDI WSDL specifies document style, not rpc 
style, for all method calls.  Example:



Is there a difference between these two styles in how you have to represent 
input arguments of complex datatype?  For
example, do I pass a complex input argument as a CF structure when the WSDL 
uses document style vs. passing it as an XML
document object when the WSDL uses rpc style?

-- Larry Afrin
   Medical University of South Carolina

UDDI v2 WSDL/XSD excerpts:

Note that the UDDI WSDL and XSD define both "find_business" and "name" as 
complex datatypes:


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  


  
  
  
  
  
  
  



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remoting dead

[dave]

anyone had remoting stop working on dev machine since upgrading to cfm 7?
 worked fine throughout blackstone  but throwing the 404 now or says connection 
refused or redirection linits have been exceeded

 i uninstalled the as2 remoting and reinstalled but still nada

 



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Re: New CFDUMP for CFMX

[Dick Applebaum]

C;mon.. I'm in enough trouble.

F___Nerd Football!

Dick

On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:33 PM, Tony Weeg wrote:

> FN FB?
>
> tw


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Re: New CFDUMP for CFMX

[Tony Weeg]

FN FB?

tw


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:47:36 -0800, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey Tony... you win FN FB?
> 
> I picked the Steelers, so I would have been long gone!
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
> On Feb 8, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Tony Weeg wrote:
> 
> > i realize it has no warranties, etc...
> > but my dump file is all crazy code crap.
> >
> > and when i run this, thats all i get...
> >
> > that back?
> >
> > any ideas
> >
> > take it easy barney.
> >
> > tony
> 
> 

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Re: cfform cfmx7

[toru okada]

could you possibly elaborate?  I can see that using the onChange
attribute with cfselect i can call actionscript, but how do i include
the actionscript?

--toru


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 22:42:51 -0500, dave <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> yes
> 
> 
> From: toru okada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:37 PM
> To: CF-Talk 
> Subject: cfform cfmx7
> 
> Does anyone know if there is functionality with the improved cfform
> for interdependent select boxes? Is there a way to add actionscript
> to a cfform to have a selection from one select box populate another
> select box?
> 
> --toru
> 
> 

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teratech posters

[dave]

are you guys gunna have updated tag posters?
 If so how can I order some for our Cfug?

 



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Re: New CFDUMP for CFMX

[Dick Applebaum]

Hey Tony... you win FN FB?

I picked the Steelers, so I would have been long gone!

Dick


On Feb 8, 2005, at 7:21 PM, Tony Weeg wrote:

> i realize it has no warranties, etc...
> but my dump file is all crazy code crap.
>
> and when i run this, thats all i get...
>
> that back?
>
> any ideas
>
> take it easy barney.
>
> tony


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re: cfform cfmx7

[dave]

yes


From: toru okada <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:37 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: cfform cfmx7 

Does anyone know if there is functionality with the improved cfform
for interdependent select boxes? Is there a way to add actionscript
to a cfform to have a selection from one select box populate another
select box?

--toru



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cfform cfmx7

[toru okada]

Does anyone know if there is functionality with the improved cfform
for interdependent select boxes?  Is there a way to add actionscript
to a cfform to have a selection from one select box populate another
select box?

--toru

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Re: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?

[Ben Doom]

I'm pretty sure by "front" he doesn't mean startup, so much as he means 
the public "front-end" areas, as opposed to the back-end mail and data 
maintenance.

--Ben

dan martin wrote:
>>Definitely faster than 5 and can handle more. I've been on 7 since sept. and
>>I've noticed a definite performance increase. Looking at my server numbers,
>>I'm seeing a small performance hit but that's probably due to the 50+
>>concurrent connections at the moment. Even with that, I'm seeing a
>>140ms-250ms processing time on the front of HoF. I can live with that.
>>
>>
> 
> Are you saying you are getting 140-250msec before page processing even 
> begins? If so, that is quite a hit. 
> 
> I dont mean to be negative, but this site is not as peppy as other (non-cf) 
> forums, and that's okay for a forum, and if the tradeoff is it can handle 
> more traffic. 
> 
> The macromedia site is dog slow for a corporate site. I wouldnt want that 
> kind of performance.
> 
> 

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Re: New CFDUMP for CFMX

[Tony Weeg]

i realize it has no warranties, etc...
but my dump file is all crazy code crap.

and when i run this, thats all i get...

that back?

any ideas

take it easy barney.

tony


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:11:48 -0800, Barney Boisvert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> After seemingly perpetual frustration with CFMX's dump tag not
> generating standards compliant CSS, I wrote a custom wrapper for the
> tag.  In the /WEB-INF/cftags directory, move 'dump.cfm' to
> 'mmdump.cfm', create a new file named 'dump.cfm', and paste this code
> in (watch the line wrap).  Once installed, continue to use CFDUMP
> exactly as before, and watch it magically work again.  It works by
> simply running a pair of REreplace calls on the output of CFDUMP to
> insert hashes before hex colors and adding 'px' as a unit behind
> numbers without a unit.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> label="#attributes.label#"
>expand="#attributes.expand#" />
> 
>  ?([0-9a-fA-F]{3}|[0-9a-fA-F]{6})", "color: ##\1", "all") />
> 
> 
> #temp#
> 
> 
> I don't claim that it's perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than
> CFDUMP alone.  The code is public domain and carries no warranty of
> any kind.
> 
> cheers,
> barneyb
> 
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Re: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?

[Dick Applebaum]

On Feb 8, 2005, at 5:45 PM, dan martin wrote:

>> Definitely faster than 5 and can handle more. I've been on 7 since 
>> sept. and
>> I've noticed a definite performance increase. Looking at my server 
>> numbers,
>> I'm seeing a small performance hit but that's probably due to the 50+
>> concurrent connections at the moment. Even with that, I'm seeing a
>> 140ms-250ms processing time on the front of HoF. I can live with that.
>>
>>>
>
> Are you saying you are getting 140-250msec before page processing even 
> begins? If so, that is quite a hit.
>
> I dont mean to be negative, but this site is not as peppy as other 
> (non-cf) forums, and that's okay for a forum, and if the tradeoff is 
> it can handle more traffic.
>
> The macromedia site is dog slow for a corporate site. I wouldnt want 
> that kind of performance.
>
>

My impression thru the beta,,, the initial version was i little slower 
less resopinsive) than 6.1 butt each succeeding release was faster/ and 
RC1 was quite a bit better than 6.1


Don't judge CF by the web site... IMO it is bloated with Flash, to the 
point where it is agonizingly slow... especially form a Mac which 
appears to have an exceptionally slow Flash plugin.  Based on past 
experience, whenever I visit the MM website for any length of time I 
kill most other apps & especially other browser windows.

When I visit non-flash CF sites (including my own) there is no 
noticeable slowdown or performance hit.

I very seldom refer people to the MM site except as an example of how 
poorly Flash performs.

I have nothing against Flash except the performance price is too steep. 
  I like the functionality & have tried to use it on multiple 
occasions... but dog slow fits.

Don't usually bad-mouth in public, but have tried without succes to 
resolve this directly with MM.

I hope this reality helps.

Dick


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New CFDUMP for CFMX

[Barney Boisvert]

After seemingly perpetual frustration with CFMX's dump tag not
generating standards compliant CSS, I wrote a custom wrapper for the
tag.  In the /WEB-INF/cftags directory, move 'dump.cfm' to
'mmdump.cfm', create a new file named 'dump.cfm', and paste this code
in (watch the line wrap).  Once installed, continue to use CFDUMP
exactly as before, and watch it magically work again.  It works by
simply running a pair of REreplace calls on the output of CFDUMP to
insert hashes before hex colors and adding 'px' as a unit behind
numbers without a unit.











#temp#


I don't claim that it's perfect, but it's a hell of a lot better than
CFDUMP alone.  The code is public domain and carries no warranty of
any kind.

cheers,
barneyb

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Re: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?

[dan martin]

>Definitely faster than 5 and can handle more. I've been on 7 since sept. and
>I've noticed a definite performance increase. Looking at my server numbers,
>I'm seeing a small performance hit but that's probably due to the 50+
>concurrent connections at the moment. Even with that, I'm seeing a
>140ms-250ms processing time on the front of HoF. I can live with that.
>
>>

Are you saying you are getting 140-250msec before page processing even begins? 
If so, that is quite a hit. 

I dont mean to be negative, but this site is not as peppy as other (non-cf) 
forums, and that's okay for a forum, and if the tradeoff is it can handle more 
traffic. 

The macromedia site is dog slow for a corporate site. I wouldnt want that kind 
of performance.

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RE: More on FCKEditor... Not good

[Russ Unger]

Rick--

Just curious if you had tried this as of yet and seen anything
different?  Sorry if I missed your reply.

Thanks,

Russ
> I'd be happy to test this for you on my server, but I'm 
> confused as to 
> what you're doing.
> 
> So you're saying that FCKeditor is in a directory NOT protected by 
> ..htaccess, and you're calling it into a page that IS 
> protected by .htaccess?
> 
> Right now I've got a site that is fully protected by .htaccess and it 
> all works fine, with the editor on a page in the main directory.


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Re: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown

[Dick Applebaum]

On Feb 8, 2005, at 5:56 PM, James Holmes wrote:

> Amen. Been there, done that, never again.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, 9 February 2005 1:03 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7 
> feature
> breakdown
>
>> ... I think that I am going to win a few more PLPCs (Programming
>> Language Pissing Contests).
>
> The only way to win is not to play.

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Re: CFEverywhere Breeze Presentation

[Mike Kear]

I guess since it's already past midday Wednesday there's no chance of
joining this presentation.

Is it recorded so I can see it later when I'm not occupied working on
the Australian taxpayer's dollar?

Cheers
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> The Mid-Michigan ColdFusion User Group will have a presentation on
> using CFEverywhere (CFEE) by Phil Cruz.
> 
> CF Everywhere (CFEE) opens a whole new world of opportunities for
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> application from your CFML code?  How about running a CF application
> from a CD?
> 
> This presentation will be on Tuesday, February 8th at 7:30pm.  The
> presentation will be conducted through Macromedia Breeze so it can be
> viewed remotely by interested parties.
> 
> If you would like to participate in the presentation, please e-mail me
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RE: CF Development cost vs PHP, JSP. etc. was; Re: CFMX 7 feature breakdown

[James Holmes]

Amen. Been there, done that, never again.

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
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breakdown

> ... I think that I am going to win a few more PLPCs (Programming 
> Language Pissing Contests).

The only way to win is not to play.

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Re: Application.cfc, UDF's, and includes

[Pete Ruckelshaus]

Thanks, Sean, that did the trick.

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Re: How can I pass a Structure from ColdFusion to Java?

[Chris Jensen]

Hi,
Are you passing from java to CF or CF to java?
Your subject suggests the later, but
 > java.util.Map wc = new java.util.Map();
suggests the former.

Your compiler problem is easy enough to solve, use one of the java 
implementations of map.
Head to the java doc at http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.2/docs/api, and 
lookup Map, then close to the top of the doc for Map there will be a 
list of "All Known Implementing Classes"
eg HashMap

(An interface in java merely describes methods that an object/class must 
define to adhere to that interface, so you can't instantiate an 
interface because it has no code to run those methods. You must find a 
class that implements those methods and that interface)

> Do you think I could use this data type in my Code like so?
> coldfusion.runtime.Struct wc = new coldfusion.runtime.Struct();
> 
> Where would I find the libraries?
> Would this be bad practice?

You could probably do that, the libraries would probably be in a jar 
somewhere in your CF server directory.
Though as you don't have access to any doc on it, you won't have a clear 
definition of the objects behaviour (nor will maintainers of your code), 
so you would probably be better off working with a java class you know, 
either a predifined java class, or a specialised class if you require 
that much specialisation.

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Re: How can I pass a Structure from ColdFusion to Java?

[Barney Boisvert]

If you had the library, you could do this, but it'd be asking for
trouble, because the class might change names at some future point (or
maybe already has in CF7).

java.util.Hashtable implements java.util.Map, so therefore CF structs
also implement the interface.  Your original question was about
passing a CF struct into Java.  Since the CF struct implements the Map
interface, you can declare your parameter of type Map, and treat the
CF struct exactly as any other Map instance you might come across.

If, however, what you need to do is create a CF structure in Java and
return it to CF, you're in a bit of a bind.  You can do it, but I
wouldn't.  Rather, I'd just return a Map (your choice of
implementation) and then use it from your CF with the Map interface
(i.e. contains(), put(), get(), etc.) rather than the native CF struct
nomenclature.  That'll give you more flexibility down the road, and
since you're already programming in Java, continuing to use the Java
methods shouldn't be a hassle.  If nothing else, you can return the
Map from your Java method and then convert it into a CF struct.

As for your interface exception, you can't instantiate interfaces, you
have to instantiate a class that implements the interface. 
java.util.Hashtable and java.util.HashMap are the most common choices
(the former is synchronized, the latter isn't), and there's a
java.util.TreeMap as well in the core JRE.

cheers,
barneyb


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 20:14:33 -0500, Troy Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hey,
> I want to add that I found this article at bpurcell.org:
> http://www.bpurcell.org/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=925
> 
> It says that a ColdFusion Structure is an Object of type
> coldfusion.runtime.Struct.  Here is the inheritance change:
> 
> java.util.Hashtable
> --coldfusion.util.FastHashtable
> coldfusion.runtime.Struct
> 
> Do you think I could use this data type in my Code like so?
> coldfusion.runtime.Struct wc = new coldfusion.runtime.Struct();
> 
> Where would I find the libraries?
> Would this be bad practice?
> 
> Thanks,
> Troy
> 


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Re: How can I pass a Structure from ColdFusion to Java?

[Troy Simpson]

Hey,
I want to add that I found this article at bpurcell.org:
http://www.bpurcell.org/blog/index.cfm?mode=entry&entry=925

It says that a ColdFusion Structure is an Object of type
coldfusion.runtime.Struct.  Here is the inheritance change:

java.util.Hashtable
--coldfusion.util.FastHashtable
coldfusion.runtime.Struct

Do you think I could use this data type in my Code like so?
coldfusion.runtime.Struct wc = new coldfusion.runtime.Struct();

Where would I find the libraries?
Would this be bad practice?

Thanks,
Troy

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Re: How can I pass a Structure from ColdFusion to Java?

[Troy Simpson]

Thanks Barney.

I am writing the JAVA Class so I have control of how to define it.
I saw that I have to define a variable as java.util.Map.

Do you know how to do this in java, because java.util.Map is not a
class but an interface.  The following line give me an error:

java.util.Map wc = new java.util.Map();

The compiler is giving me the following error:
"Cannot instantiate the type Map, since it is not a concrete class"

Thanks,
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Re: How can I pass a Structure from ColdFusion to Java?

[Barney Boisvert]

You should be able to pass it as an instance of java.util.Map.  Arrays
go as java.util.Vector, though they're pass by value in CF and pass by
reference in Java.  Queries are javax.sql.ResultSet, I believe. 
Numerics go in as type Double or double, unless you use JavaCast, and
dates go in as java.util.Date.  And you can get a null using the
forDigit method of the Character class, should you need one.  Note
that that's only a Java null, it won't work in CF as a null value.

That's for CFMX, things might have changed in CF7, though I doubt it.  

cheers,
barneyb

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:01:38 -0500, Troy Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have data in a coldfusion mx structure and I need to pass that
> structure to a Java method.  Anyone know how to do this or where I
> might find an answer to this?
> 
> Also, what about other coldfusion datatypes?
> 
> Thanks,
> Troy
> 
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Re: How can I pass a Structure from ColdFusion to Java?

[Adam Haskell]

I don't think any complex datatype will transfer over to Java in a
snap...Most complex data types are vectors or something along that
lines...Heck depending on the function you are calling and the
overloading that might occur even a string might need to be
javacast()ed to get everything to play nice :) Sorry no good insight
on getting the structure over smoothly.

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On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 19:01:38 -0500, Troy Simpson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have data in a coldfusion mx structure and I need to pass that
> structure to a Java method.  Anyone know how to do this or where I
> might find an answer to this?
> 
> Also, what about other coldfusion datatypes?
> 
> Thanks,
> Troy
> 
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Re: Fusebox3 nested circuits & variables

[Barney Boisvert]

Something's screwed up.  The conferences circuit's settings override
the news circuit's.  Are you perhaps using CFPARAM where you should be
using CFSET, or maybe have a subtle typo somewhere so you're
populating the wrong variable?

The flow of a FB3 request is like this (assuming a request to the
conference.home fuseaction):

/Application.cfm
/index.cfm
/fb_fusebox30_cf50_nix.cfm
/fbx_Settings.cfm
/news/fbx_Settings.cfm
/news/conferences/fbx_Settings.cfm
/news/conferences/fbx_Switch.cfm
/news/conferences/fbx_Layouts.cfm
  (optional layout file in /news/conferences/)
/news/fbx_Layouts.cfm
  (optional layout file in /news/)
/fbx_Layouts.cfm
  (optional layout file in /)
/OnRequestEnd.cfm

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> Fusebox 3, CFMX 6.1...
> On one site most of my circuits are linear (basic informational site)
> and I've just started adding subcircuits.  In my framework I have an
> array called "MenuItems" that each circuit adds items to in order to
> display a per-circuit menu.  The problem is that the subcircuit isn't
> taking its MenuItems variable from the fbx_settings.cfm in that circuit,
> its taking it from the root circuit.  In other words:
> 
> /mysite.com/
> /circuits/
> /about/
> /news/
> fbx_settings.cfm
> /conferences/
> fbx_settings.cfm
> 
> In the directory structure above the variables in
> conferences/fbx_settings.cfm are being overwritten by
> news/fbx_settings.cfm.
> 
> My question is, is this what Fusebox 3 is supposed to do?  I always
> thought that the variables in the subcircuit would override the parent
> circuit's variables?
> 
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How can I pass a Structure from ColdFusion to Java?

[Troy Simpson]

I have data in a coldfusion mx structure and I need to pass that
structure to a Java method.  Anyone know how to do this or where I
might find an answer to this?

Also, what about other coldfusion datatypes?

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Re: CFLDAP Exchange / Outlook Calenders

[Duncan I Loxton]

I think the attachments get stripped by the server 0- can you send it
to me direct? [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Thanks


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:46:55 -0600, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (I posted this with attachments.  I didn't see any guidelines where
> attachments are forbidden, so please forgive me if they are forbidden.)
> 
> I am no ASP pro, but it works.  ;)
> 
> This is setup so that the LoadCalendarAlumni.asp page just sets a couple
> of variables that point to the specific mailbox.  I have one of these
> files for each mailbox that I need to query.
> 
> The LoadCalendarEngine.asp page does all the work.  The calendar items
> are pulled from Exchange, are cleansed, then are inserted into SQL
> Server.
> 
> The ConvertTimeToLocalDST.asp function is needed to set the correct time
> zone.  You will need to change the values if you are not in Central
> Time.
> 
> You will need to run this as a user that has, at least, read permissions
> to the Exchange mailbox.
> 
> Let me know if you have any questions.
> 
> M!ke
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Duncan I Loxton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 3:57 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CFLDAP Exchange / Outlook Calenders
> 
> Mike,
> 
> That would be fantastic if you could sort out the ASP code for me!
> 
> Thanks a load
> 
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> 
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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

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On Feb 8, 2005, at 3:19 PM, Adrocknaphobia wrote:

>
> It's important to remember that CF isn't the best platform to develop
> PC based applications. It's meant for server-based applications.
>
>

That is true, but it may be good enough-- especially if you already 
have the app written as a multi-user web app.

Actually, it performs quite well from a CD, the desktop or an iPod.

There are non-CFML apps implemented this way:  Radio Userland & Desktop 
Google

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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Dick Applebaum]

On Feb 8, 2005, at 3:10 PM, Mike Kear wrote:

> As the person who kicked this thread off in the first place, I have to
> say I'm still confused.
>
> My original question was about whether we'd be able to produce
> standalone working apps, and I think several answers attempted to
> answer it, but I dont think I fully grasped the implications.
>
> Here's two scenarios - can we use this new CF7 to meet these needs ...
>
> [Scenario A] A trade show.  We want to hand out samples of our work to
> visitors to the booth.Just give them CDs of some sample sites,
> showing the benefits of what we can do - dynamic sites, shopping
> carts, whatever.   They'll need to put a CD into their PC and see the
> sample sites work.  I kind of get the idea that wont work unless they
> already have J2EE installed on their PC?  Yes?

1)With BD you can distribute everything on a CD -- the only thing that 
needs to be on the user's PC is a OS (OS X, Win Linux/Unix) and a JVM 
(pre-installed on everything but win).  It will run from CD and 
NewAtlanta has a flexible licensing/redistro policy that makes this 
practical.

2)You cannot do this with CFMX7 because it will not startup from a 
read-only medium-- it tries to write the license.properties file at 
startup.

3)If MM fix this, then it will be technically possible, but may or may 
not be legally possible and/or economically practical because of MM's 
licensing/redistro policy-- that's what I am trying to get answers to

>
> [ Scenario B] We develop a small app.  We sell the app, and send them
> a CD, which they would put into their PC and run the app from the CD.
> Examples of this could be a single-person training application or a
> perhaps something like the file libraries that appear on the front of
> magazines (but we wouldn't be putting it on magazines).   That
> wouldn't work either because the users would all have to have J2EE
> running?
>

Same answers as the prior answers.

> Have I got this right?

You can do it today, with BDJ2ee

You cannot do it today with CFMX7J2ee.

>
> And if J2EE is a requirement, would it be possible to put that stuff
> on the CD too, and have it self-install somehow or perhaps run from
> the CD?
>

That's  (one of the) promise(s) of CFEverywhere

http://www.philcruz.com/cfeverywhere/

BTW, CFeverywhere is a packaging concept... there is no charge for the 
ideas (or any of the components, except the CF engine).

I have to attend (participate) in a breezo on CFEverywhere in a few 
minutes (sorry limited attendance).  Phil Cruz will present the breezo, 
so both he and I will be unavailable for a while.  But we will try to 
answer any posts, later,  The above URL contains a link to the CFDJ 
article and A CFeverywhere forum.

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Re: ArrayInsertAt Question

[Larry White]

You're just supposed to name the array you want to insert at,
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Re: <- Previous Page | Next Page ->

[Jehiah Czebotar]

I've also put a page up on my website with some code. Basically the
same thing as posted above, with a few minor details.

http://www.jehiah.com/archive/paging-coldfusion-results

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ArrayInsertAt Question

[Charles Heizer]

Hello,
I'm having a problem with using "ArrayInsertAt" . I keep getting a  
"Cannot insert/delete at position 1."

Here is a snippet of my code ---








The "GetADListNew" gets a new set of records based on a value that some 
click on.

I hope this makes sense,

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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Sean Corfield]

On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:10:59 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [Scenario A] A trade show.  We want to hand out samples of our work to
> visitors to the booth.Just give them CDs of some sample sites,

> sample sites work.  I kind of get the idea that wont work unless they
> already have J2EE installed on their PC?  Yes?

Correct.

> [ Scenario B] We develop a small app.  We sell the app, and send them
> a CD, which they would put into their PC and run the app from the CD.

> wouldn't work either because the users would all have to have J2EE
> running?

Correct.

In both cases your CD would also need to include a J2EE app server as
well (or at least a Servlet container).
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RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown

[dave]

ok first of all, i know you all have a hard time with how I write and I 
appologize for that. Most of the day I spend talking to my nephews and neices 
who range from 2/ 1/2yrs to 12 yrs and thats how they can understand(im & txt 
messaging), so its habit, plus i'm a really BAD typer! So after this message 
I'm going to bestbuy to get Beavis Macon teaches typing!
 and I promise too try better :)
 (3 medical degrees, you'd think I would do better!)

  "Art school sounds like a bad place to learn about programming."
 yeah Dave they are BUT this kind of thinking is what kills coldfusion!

 Sure it's a bad place to learn how to build a full out application. But lets 
take a graphic artist for example. Most of them do their courses in photoshop 
and illistrator but then they also take flash courses. So they learn how to 
make this nifty lil flash sites which contain a contact page, so then they 
learn enough php to send the email. Last time i checked sending an email from 
cfm was a bit easier than php. (remember when we had to use matts mail in cgi 
from matts scripts archive haha)

 ok so you say big deal!
 well it is a big deal because from now on they will most likely end up using 
php when it could be coldfusion!
 And i know we all get along so well with the graphics ppl but what I see is 
that these graphics ppl(people) are finding it very difficult to find a good 
job so they start to learn programming and where do they go? (hint php) why? 
because they have some familiarality with it and they think its the "free" 
answer.

 Now contrary to what mischa says, not everyone builds enterprise sized apps, 
not everyone has their own server and certainly not everyone has a background 
in C. I'd assume that if you asked most php developers what C is that they'd 
say its the letter thats between B and D. And if you did have a background in C 
wouldn't you really most likely got to .net anyways?

 There are a ton of php developers of course but how many are actually doing 
prodjects that are "small"?

 I don't have any concrete numbers but i would say a big majority of ppl that 
use php use it for very small things (sending emails, basic database 
manipulation, etc..) so I think those numbers about users really does lie. 
There are some ppl that do great things with php but a majority are just novice 
users who use it because its "free" or because they can just plug in phpbb or 
an image gallery app or phpnuke, etc But mostly cause they are just 
uninformed.

 We can fight about this all we want but really it comes down to this, all 
these hundreds of thousands of ppl that use php cause its "free" and are on 
shared servers just dont know that to them and a majority of their clients that 
coldfusion is just as free, period!! They just don't know!

 ANd honestly, if you were a newbie again which would be easier to learn and 
understand? Course ppl are different but there is a reason why cfm is still 
around.


From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:52 AM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: CFMX 7 feature breakdown 

> ... and he says well in art school they tell u that 
> coldfusion is really expensive.

Art school sounds like a bad place to learn about programming.

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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Dick Applebaum]

On Feb 8, 2005, at 1:26 PM, Dave Carabetta wrote:

>
> But 1 and 2 sound like CF is already installed in some capacity, so it
> seems like sourceless deployment and a zip utility might be a good
> option in those scenarios (via the cfcompile utility)? And 3 sounds
> like what EAR/WAR deployment was designed for as far as a web
> environment is concerned (though I think you're probably talking about
> non-web setups?).

Yes it is!  But I want to redistro CF as part of a CFEverywhere package 
containing everything (J2ee server, web server, CF J2ee, db server, 
populated db, CF apps).  All of this is pre-installed, so all the 
potential customer needs to do is download (and decompress), then 
double-click an icon on the desktop.  This starts everything including 
launching a browser pointing to the (just installed) web site.  The 
download/decompress/instaqll takes, typically, 2-3 minutes.  the launch 
takes, say, 30 seconds-- and the customer is into the app (web site)

Given the above scenario the deployment is done on the system where you 
create the package (my development system).  Then we zip the whole 
package for download.

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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Adrocknaphobia]

Scenario A) Yes, they would need a J2EE Server.

Scenario B) No, that would still need a J2EE Server.

It's important to remember that CF isn't the best platform to develop
PC based applications. It's meant for server-based applications.

-Adam


On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 10:10:59 +1100, Mike Kear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As the person who kicked this thread off in the first place, I have to
> say I'm still confused.
> 
> My original question was about whether we'd be able to produce
> standalone working apps, and I think several answers attempted to
> answer it, but I dont think I fully grasped the implications.
> 
> Here's two scenarios - can we use this new CF7 to meet these needs ...
> 
> [Scenario A] A trade show.  We want to hand out samples of our work to
> visitors to the booth.Just give them CDs of some sample sites,
> showing the benefits of what we can do - dynamic sites, shopping
> carts, whatever.   They'll need to put a CD into their PC and see the
> sample sites work.  I kind of get the idea that wont work unless they
> already have J2EE installed on their PC?  Yes?
> 
> [ Scenario B] We develop a small app.  We sell the app, and send them
> a CD, which they would put into their PC and run the app from the CD.
> Examples of this could be a single-person training application or a
> perhaps something like the file libraries that appear on the front of
> magazines (but we wouldn't be putting it on magazines).   That
> wouldn't work either because the users would all have to have J2EE
> running?
> 
> Have I got this right?
> 
> And if J2EE is a requirement, would it be possible to put that stuff
> on the CD too, and have it self-install somehow or perhaps run from
> the CD?
> 
> Cheers
> Mike Kear
> Windsor, NSW, Australia
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer
> AFP Webworks
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> 
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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Mike Kear]

As the person who kicked this thread off in the first place, I have to
say I'm still confused.

My original question was about whether we'd be able to produce
standalone working apps, and I think several answers attempted to
answer it, but I dont think I fully grasped the implications.

Here's two scenarios - can we use this new CF7 to meet these needs ... 

[Scenario A] A trade show.  We want to hand out samples of our work to
visitors to the booth.Just give them CDs of some sample sites,
showing the benefits of what we can do - dynamic sites, shopping
carts, whatever.   They'll need to put a CD into their PC and see the
sample sites work.  I kind of get the idea that wont work unless they
already have J2EE installed on their PC?  Yes?

[ Scenario B] We develop a small app.  We sell the app, and send them
a CD, which they would put into their PC and run the app from the CD. 
Examples of this could be a single-person training application or a
perhaps something like the file libraries that appear on the front of
magazines (but we wouldn't be putting it on magazines).   That
wouldn't work either because the users would all have to have J2EE
running?

Have I got this right? 

And if J2EE is a requirement, would it be possible to put that stuff
on the CD too, and have it self-install somehow or perhaps run from
the CD?

Cheers
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Re: OT: Google Maps

[Les Mizzell]

Jim McAtee wrote:
> http://maps.google.com
> 
> The interface is beyond cool.  Some of the searches, no doubt tied to 
> google's web index, are uncanny.


Damn, all the way down to the old unused dirt road behind me Mums' house!


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Re: OT: Google Maps

[Adam Haskell]

THere is a discussion going on in CF comminity about this already :) I
beleive VML is waht ios being used...that and some JS, i I remeber
reading correctly.


Adam H


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:56:38 -0700, Jim McAtee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://maps.google.com
> 
> The interface is beyond cool.  Some of the searches, no doubt tied to
> google's web index, are uncanny.
> 
> Anyone know the technology behind the interface?  Just JavaScript, or is
> there more to it?
> 
> 

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RE: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Any tests before the final release are suspect. If they're going to release
benchmarks, it'll be post release. 

> I was looking for performance comparisons this morning and was unable to
> find anything from Macromedia.  Anyone aware of 6.1 compared with 7?  Does
> Macromedia have any plans to benchmarking the two?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tue 2/8/2005 2:49 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?
> 
> 
> 
> Definitely faster than 5 and can handle more. I've been on 7 since sept.
> and
> I've noticed a definite performance increase. Looking at my server
> numbers,
> I'm seeing a small performance hit but that's probably due to the 50+
> concurrent connections at the moment. Even with that, I'm seeing a
> 140ms-250ms processing time on the front of HoF. I can live with that.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dan martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:39 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?
> >
> > Anyone know of any performance comparisons between the new version and
> > previous versions? MX7 does seem a bit slower at first glance.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 

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re: OT: Google Maps

[dave]

http://www.markme.com/dehaan/archives/006963.cfm


From: "Jim McAtee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:53 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: OT: Google Maps 

http://maps.google.com

The interface is beyond cool. Some of the searches, no doubt tied to 
google's web index, are uncanny.

Anyone know the technology behind the interface? Just JavaScript, or is 
there more to it?



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RE: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?

[John Munyan]

I was looking for performance comparisons this morning and was unable to find 
anything from Macromedia.  Anyone aware of 6.1 compared with 7?  Does 
Macromedia have any plans to benchmarking the two?
 
Thanks,

John



From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 2/8/2005 2:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?



Definitely faster than 5 and can handle more. I've been on 7 since sept. and
I've noticed a definite performance increase. Looking at my server numbers,
I'm seeing a small performance hit but that's probably due to the 50+
concurrent connections at the moment. Even with that, I'm seeing a
140ms-250ms processing time on the front of HoF. I can live with that.

> -Original Message-
> From: dan martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?
>
> Anyone know of any performance comparisons between the new version and
> previous versions? MX7 does seem a bit slower at first glance.
>
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Re: OT: right click submit options

[dave]

it doesnt have to


From: Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:22 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: Re: OT: right click submit options 

Doesnt right clicking in Flash bring up the Flash settings and options
dropdown (not user defined)?
I'm not sure if thats editable. 
I'd be complicated, building the dropdown and using JS to make it show
where you want it to, etc..
You might want to consider other options.

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:39:38 -0200, Marco Antonio C. Santos
 wrote:
> I'll suggest to use Flash Forms with CFMX 7. Could be that very very easy.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Marco
> 
> 
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:28:56 -0800, Tim Do  wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I was wondering if its possible to right click a row and have multiple
> > form submit options. I have a form which has many records being
> > outputted. Each record has a radio button and the form has multiple
> > submit buttons. Since the submit buttons are on top and bottom.. users
> > have to scroll down and select the record they want and scroll up or
> > down to submit. Is there a way to right click the row and have the
> > submit options come up?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> 
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OT: Google Maps

[Jim McAtee]

http://maps.google.com

The interface is beyond cool.  Some of the searches, no doubt tied to 
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Anyone know the technology behind the interface?  Just JavaScript, or is 
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RE: Ben, I need new CF books!

[dave]

what would be sweet is have them available to use in mike chambers "flash 
resource manager" for quick and easy reference!

 if you guys haven't tried that app out, you should, it's a huge timesaver!
 And no it's not just for flash, i currently have flash, cfm 6.1, cfm 7 & flex 
docs in there.

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From: "Ben Forta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 5:18 PM
To: CF-Talk 
Subject: RE: Ben, I need new CF books! 

And several of my books are indeed available via Safari. I just don't get to
pick which ones.

--- Ben

-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 12:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Ben, I need new CF books!

I second the O'Reilly Safari (Bookshelf) great service!

Dick

On Feb 8, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote:

> Maybe a partnership between MM Press and O'Reilly bookshelf? Or 
> rolling their own?
>
> -Joe
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:22:12 -0600, Dawson, Michael 
>  wrote:
>> I agree!
>>
 A spiral bound book like one of Ben's is doubtless impossible, but 
 I
>> would be up for a PDF version that I could duplex out and put into a 
>> couple of big binders.
>>
 Rick, my 2nd Edition WACK has 35 chapters and a couple of
>> appendices... At $5 per chapter thats... 8-O
>>
 Anyway an online version reasonably priced *would* be a nice option.
>>
>>
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RE: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?

[Michael Dinowitz]

Definitely faster than 5 and can handle more. I've been on 7 since sept. and
I've noticed a definite performance increase. Looking at my server numbers,
I'm seeing a small performance hit but that's probably due to the 50+
concurrent connections at the moment. Even with that, I'm seeing a
140ms-250ms processing time on the front of HoF. I can live with that.

> -Original Message-
> From: dan martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 4:39 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?
> 
> Anyone know of any performance comparisons between the new version and
> previous versions? MX7 does seem a bit slower at first glance.
> 
> 

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RE: CFLDAP Exchange / Outlook Calenders

[Dawson, Michael]

(I posted this with attachments.  I didn't see any guidelines where
attachments are forbidden, so please forgive me if they are forbidden.)

I am no ASP pro, but it works.  ;)

This is setup so that the LoadCalendarAlumni.asp page just sets a couple
of variables that point to the specific mailbox.  I have one of these
files for each mailbox that I need to query.

The LoadCalendarEngine.asp page does all the work.  The calendar items
are pulled from Exchange, are cleansed, then are inserted into SQL
Server.

The ConvertTimeToLocalDST.asp function is needed to set the correct time
zone.  You will need to change the values if you are not in Central
Time.

You will need to run this as a user that has, at least, read permissions
to the Exchange mailbox.

Let me know if you have any questions.

M!ke
 

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Mike,

That would be fantastic if you could sort out the ASP code for me!

Thanks a load

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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Adrocknaphobia]

I'm at a loss as why you wouldn't want to disable the CFAdmin. You
really shouldn't need it in production at all, if all you want it for
is a log viewer, I suggest notepad. Having a slow running log viewer
doesnt justify the security issues it presents.

-Adam


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:43:13 -0500, Ben Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Because they want a J2EE app not a ColdFusion app.
> 
> Which is just a matter of semantics, correct?
> 
> > With the new Admin
> > API you can build a custom console into your app for deployment
> > instead of the full CF Admin - because you will only need the subset
> > of admin features necessary for your app.
> 
> I'm at a loss for why I'd want to duplicate the functionality of the
> ColdFusion administrator. Let me rephrase that. I think the admin API is
> useful. I can definitely see uses for that. However, why would I want to
> disable the ColdFusion administrator? You'd lose access to the log file
> viewer, the ability to dump settings, etc. I'm sure you could duplicate all
> this with the admin API, but what would be the purpose?
> 
> > I demo'd this at Fusebox 2004 and I showed a Flash form-based wizard
> > that could set up a data source for the freshly installed application.
> > No source, no CF Admin. Simple to install for a J2EE shop, simple to
> > configure.
> 
> I think we have different opinions of J2EE shops. :) I can't imagine a J2EE
> shop that can't figure out how to set up a data source using the ColdFusion
> Administrator.
> 
> Ben Rogers
> http://www.c4.net
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> f.508.240.0057
> 
> 

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performance numbers for mx7 vs 6 vs 5?

[dan martin]

Anyone know of any performance comparisons between the new version and previous 
versions? MX7 does seem a bit slower at first glance.

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jvm.config & Java Locale

[Tarantor]

 

Hi,

 

We have a known issue to install CFMX on a system with Turkish locale.

 

CFMX 6.1: 

 

52295

 

ColdFusion MX does not work on an operating system that is set to the
Turkish locale. 

To work around this problem, set the ColdFusion JVM locale to US by adding
the following 

switches to the java.args line in the jvm.config file: -Duser.language=en
-Duser.country=US

 

But on CFMX 7, when I check jvm.config file, I could not find any line like
that. How we can change Java locale?

 

Any tip?

 

TIA!

 

 

 

Best regards,

 

Oðuz Demirkapý

 

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Re: CFMX7: Application.cfc and FuseBox/MachII

[Sean Corfield]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 17:25:56 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm, the onRequest method is quite interesting...
> 
> Has anyone already tinkered with it?

Yes, I've used it extensively. Do you have some specific questions?
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Fusebox3 nested circuits & variables

[Damien McKenna]

Fusebox 3, CFMX 6.1...
On one site most of my circuits are linear (basic informational site)
and I've just started adding subcircuits.  In my framework I have an
array called "MenuItems" that each circuit adds items to in order to
display a per-circuit menu.  The problem is that the subcircuit isn't
taking its MenuItems variable from the fbx_settings.cfm in that circuit,
its taking it from the root circuit.  In other words:
 
/mysite.com/
/circuits/
/about/
/news/
fbx_settings.cfm
/conferences/
fbx_settings.cfm
 
In the directory structure above the variables in
conferences/fbx_settings.cfm are being overwritten by
news/fbx_settings.cfm.
 
My question is, is this what Fusebox 3 is supposed to do?  I always
thought that the variables in the subcircuit would override the parent
circuit's variables?

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RE: CFMX7: Application.cfc and FuseBox/MachII

[Calvin Ward]

Hmm, the onRequest method is quite interesting...

Has anyone already tinkered with it?

- Calvin

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Sure (BTW all-new CFMX 7 LiveDocs are also live and online):

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/1120.htm

and (reference)

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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Sean Corfield]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:43:13 -0500, Ben Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Because they want a J2EE app not a ColdFusion app.
> Which is just a matter of semantics, correct?

Perhaps, but it's important to some people.

> I'm at a loss for why I'd want to duplicate the functionality of the
> ColdFusion administrator.

You're missing the point. The scenario is that you create an
application that is going to be packaged and distributed as a J2EE
application. You do not want or need to expose the entire CF Admin as
part of that application - you've already set up all the admin
settings when you packaged the app for deployment. The app might need
some configuration after deployment - perhaps a data source setup,
perhaps your app is only coded to support MySQL and SQL Server - so
you build a simple admin that allows the purchaser of your packaged
app to configure the app to talk to their existing MySQL or SQL Server
database.

> disable the ColdFusion administrator? You'd lose access to the log file
> viewer, the ability to dump settings, etc.

And these have what relevance to a packaged, deployed J2EE application?
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RE: Ben, I need new CF books!

[Ben Forta]

And several of my books are indeed available via Safari. I just don't get to
pick which ones.

--- Ben


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I second the O'Reilly Safari (Bookshelf)  great  service!

Dick

On Feb 8, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Joe Rinehart wrote:

> Maybe a partnership between MM Press and O'Reilly bookshelf?  Or 
> rolling their own?
>
> -Joe
>
>
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:22:12 -0600, Dawson, Michael 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I agree!
>>
 A spiral bound book like one of Ben's is doubtless impossible, but 
 I
>> would be up for a PDF version that I could duplex out and put into a 
>> couple of big binders.
>>
 Rick, my 2nd Edition WACK has 35 chapters and a couple of
>> appendices... At $5 per chapter thats... 8-O
>>
 Anyway an online version reasonably priced *would* be a nice option.
>>
>>
>
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RE: Ben, I need new CF books!

[Ben Forta]

We've talked about it. But unfortunately, it is not something my publisher
does, and they do own the rights to the books at this point. They have
released specific titles electronically (via O'Reilly Safari), but not all.

--- Ben
 

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Its been a while since I read the WACK (although I need another one now to
train a new dveloper I just took on) but one thing I can say for SURE is its
better to be able to lay a book flat so you can refer to it at the keyboard.

A spiral bound book like one of Ben's is doubtless impossible, but I would
be up for a PDF version that I could duplex out and put into a couple of big
binders.

Rick, my 2nd Edition WACK has 35 chapters and a couple of appendices... At
$5 per chapter thats... 8-O

Anyway an online version reasonably priced *would* be a nice option.

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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Dave Carabetta]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 16:43:13 -0500, Ben Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Because they want a J2EE app not a ColdFusion app.
> 
> Which is just a matter of semantics, correct?

I see what you're saying, but not really. A ColdFusion app
traditionally is nothing more than a mix of HTML, CFM, CFC, CFR, JS,
and perhaps SWF files found under a web root. A J2EE app is much more
than that. From Sun's site
(http://java.sun.com/j2ee/1.4/docs/glossary.html#120385):

"Any deployable unit of J2EE functionality. This can be a single
module or a group of modules packaged into an EAR file with a J2EE
application deployment descriptor. J2EE applications are typically
engineered to be distributed across multiple computing tiers."

As you can probably surmise, this additional stuff includes context
root definitions, etc -- settings that define the environment as
opposed to just the application.

> > With the new Admin
> > API you can build a custom console into your app for deployment
> > instead of the full CF Admin - because you will only need the subset
> > of admin features necessary for your app.
> 
> I'm at a loss for why I'd want to duplicate the functionality of the
> ColdFusion administrator. Let me rephrase that. I think the admin API is
> useful. I can definitely see uses for that. However, why would I want to
> disable the ColdFusion administrator? You'd lose access to the log file
> viewer, the ability to dump settings, etc. I'm sure you could duplicate all
> this with the admin API, but what would be the purpose?

So as not to inundate the user with the multitude of options provided
in the Administrator, for one, and to make sure that a user doesn't
change a particular setting or settings that your application relies
on, for another. Further, I wouldn't want to dump settings and stuff
in a production environment. While developers tend to "cheat" all the
time, a production environment should be a pristine version of your
application, devoid of all debugging code and settings.

> 
> > I demo'd this at Fusebox 2004 and I showed a Flash form-based wizard
> > that could set up a data source for the freshly installed application.
> > No source, no CF Admin. Simple to install for a J2EE shop, simple to
> > configure.
> 
> I think we have different opinions of J2EE shops. :) I can't imagine a J2EE
> shop that can't figure out how to set up a data source using the ColdFusion
> Administrator.
> 

It's not a question of smart vs. dumb or lazy. It's a question of what
one is used to and whether or not they are willing to make the effort
to learn a different process to deploy a J2EE application. If I have
to log in to the JRun Admin Console to administer all my other J2EE
apps but then use the CFMX Admin just to administer my CF apps, that's
a bother to the sys admin, who, in large shops where standards are
prevalent, don't have time for disparate systems. One could argue both
sides quite convincingly, I'd wager, but at the end of the day, as I
mentioned earlier, this particular feature really caters to pure J2EE
admins as opposed to developers like you and me who are used to CF's
deployment experience.

Regards,
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Re: Application.cfc, UDF's, and includes

[Sean Corfield]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:36:11 -0500, Pete Ruckelshaus
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm converting a new app over to use application.cfc.  Rather than
> load the application.cfc up with UDF's that I use regularly (I would
> normally dump them into application.cfm), I have created a file that
> contains the UDF's that I would like to include (udf_lib.cfm).  I am
> including the file in the onRequestStart method:

onRequestStart/End do not share variables scope with your main page
unless you implement onRequest (in which case you wouldn't need to
implement onRequestStart/End!). Caveat, you need to read the docs
about using web services / Flash Remoting and onRequest.




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Re: OT: right click submit options

[S . Isaac Dealey]

> Hi All,

> I was wondering if its possible to right click a row and
> have multiple
> form submit options.  I have a form which has many records
> being
> outputted.  Each record has a radio button and the form
> has multiple
> submit buttons.  Since the submit buttons are on top and
> bottom.. users
> have to scroll down and select the record they want  and
> scroll up or
> down to submit.  Is there a way to right click the row and
> have the
> submit options come up?

> Thanks,
> Tim

If you're using HTML (rather than a flash form) there's an easier, and
more user-friendly method -- place the radio buttons in a scrollable
 -- the user scrolls the radio buttons but the submit buttons are
always visible. Self-explanatory user-interface, you won't have to
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Re: CFLDAP Exchange / Outlook Calenders

[Duncan I Loxton]

Mike,

That would be fantastic if you could sort out the ASP code for me!

Thanks a load

Duncan


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:59:19 -0600, Dawson, Michael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of querying
> a specific users exchange calender - I would assume LDAP is the way to
> go, but if there is a better way I would love to know!
> 
> >>I can get User info out of AD, so if the exchange stuff is buried in
> there then it should be easy to dig out?
> 
> One might think it's easy, but...
> 
> Exchange calendar information is not accessible by LDAP.  Active
> Directory, and some Exchange configuration settings, are accessible by
> LDAP.
> 
> You have to use a mix of the two technologies, however, you can't do it
> in plain ol' ColdFusion without third-party addons.
> 
> I built a solution using classic ASP.  The ASP page resides on the mail
> server and connects to a mailbox.  The mailbox's calendar is queried and
> the results are stored in a shared SQL Server database for use on
> different web sites.
> 
> I was able to do it in CF5, but that was many moons ago.  It all broke
> when our Exchange was upgraded from 5.5 to 2000 and CF was upgraded from
> 5 to MX.
> 
> I can share the mailbox/calendar ASP code if you are interested.
> 
> M!ke
> 
> 

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RE: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Ben Rogers]

> Because they want a J2EE app not a ColdFusion app.

Which is just a matter of semantics, correct?

> With the new Admin
> API you can build a custom console into your app for deployment
> instead of the full CF Admin - because you will only need the subset
> of admin features necessary for your app.

I'm at a loss for why I'd want to duplicate the functionality of the
ColdFusion administrator. Let me rephrase that. I think the admin API is
useful. I can definitely see uses for that. However, why would I want to
disable the ColdFusion administrator? You'd lose access to the log file
viewer, the ability to dump settings, etc. I'm sure you could duplicate all
this with the admin API, but what would be the purpose?
 
> I demo'd this at Fusebox 2004 and I showed a Flash form-based wizard
> that could set up a data source for the freshly installed application.
> No source, no CF Admin. Simple to install for a J2EE shop, simple to
> configure.

I think we have different opinions of J2EE shops. :) I can't imagine a J2EE
shop that can't figure out how to set up a data source using the ColdFusion
Administrator.

Ben Rogers
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RE: OT SQL question-SOLVED

[Eric Creese]

danke!

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 2:12 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT SQL question


Eric Creese wrote:
> I want to verify email addresses that are entered into one of my apps. 
> Unfortunately I already inherited close to 100k email address. So I want to 
> do the following in SQL via a stored procedure so I can write the bad 
> addresses out to an error table. Need to check if there is an @ sign, if the 
> TDL is valid from the list I have from ICANN. When I check through each like 
> statement but that is not going to work. Any other ideas? This can not be 
> done through a CF page but eventually the result will b posted to one.

First create a table with all your TLDs and then:
INSERT INTO bademail (personid,email)
SELECT DISTINCT personid, email
FROM People LEFT JOIN tlds ON (people.email LIKE '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' || 
tlds.tld)
WHERE MbrExpireDate > '2/1/2005'
AND tlds.tld IS NULL

This presumes standard SQL, i.e. || is the concatenation operator 
and _ means exactly one character.

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Re: OT: right click submit options

[Greg Morphis]

Start here... this shows you how to make the menu and make it appear
where you click..
http://javascript.internet.com/page-details/right-click-menu.html
Then it's just a simple JS function to make the form submit...


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 15:22:23 -0600, Greg Morphis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doesnt right clicking in Flash bring up the Flash settings and options
> dropdown (not user defined)?
> I'm not sure if thats editable.
> I'd be complicated, building the dropdown and using JS to make it show
> where you want it to, etc..
> You might want to consider other options.
> 
> 
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:39:38 -0200, Marco Antonio C. Santos
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'll suggest to use Flash Forms with CFMX 7. Could be that very very easy.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Marco
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:28:56 -0800, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I was wondering if its possible to right click a row and have multiple
> > > form submit options.  I have a form which has many records being
> > > outputted.  Each record has a radio button and the form has multiple
> > > submit buttons.  Since the submit buttons are on top and bottom.. users
> > > have to scroll down and select the record they want  and scroll up or
> > > down to submit.  Is there a way to right click the row and have the
> > > submit options come up?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 

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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Dave Carabetta]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:43:56 -0800, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks Dave, that really helps.

Cool.

> 
> As I understand it the j2ee edition is the enterprise edition

That is correct. I only keep saying "Enterprise Edition" because
Macromedia has shifted their product naming to this for the J2EE
version, so it's more a reminder to myself and to not confuse people
who read this post and then go to MM's site for more info.

> 
> But I don't want to pay for and deploy the full J2ee enterprise
> edition... I don't have a production web server, or a real web site.
> 
> But I do want to develop and distro apps as you describe: trial
> acpability, decaying into developer capability.
> 
> The intent is that the customer will be able to try my app before he
> buys it (without all the hassle of installing the component parts),'
> 
> Then when he buys my app he:
> 
> 1) deploys it on his existing CF Server
> 2) Has his host service install it on hei server instance of  their
> existing CF Server
> 3) Buys a new license key and activates the CF server in my package
> and/or installs his own server.

But 1 and 2 sound like CF is already installed in some capacity, so it
seems like sourceless deployment and a zip utility might be a good
option in those scenarios (via the cfcompile utility)? And 3 sounds
like what EAR/WAR deployment was designed for as far as a web
environment is concerned (though I think you're probably talking about
non-web setups?).

> 
> This is not the only variation on the theme, but it is a good place to
> start.
> 
> I want to drive my own and MM's (in this case) business by letting the
> potential customer "try before you buy" with the most positive
> experience I can create (no installs, service packs, configs,
> deployments, etc).
> 
> If i do this properly the customer will buy my app and,
> at the very least, he uses some of his existing CF capacity (makes him
> more likely to by add'l CF licenses, sooner);
> or better; he buys a CF license so he can run my app;
> or better, yet, hey buys the license and brags/tells all his peers
> about it (and my app)
> 

As a lurker and sometime contributor on several mailing lists, I've
definitely followed your desire to be able to run CF in a non-web
environment (i.e., off of a CD). To that end, I can't really respond
with anything helpful in your quest for this. Sorry. But as far as
licensing is concerned, it seems like Macromedia is intent on keeping
their server policies tied to web deployments for now, so I don't know
how far you're (legally) going to get.

Regards,
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Re: OT: right click submit options

[Greg Morphis]

Doesnt right clicking in Flash bring up the Flash settings and options
dropdown (not user defined)?
I'm not sure if thats editable. 
I'd be complicated, building the dropdown and using JS to make it show
where you want it to, etc..
You might want to consider other options.



On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 18:39:38 -0200, Marco Antonio C. Santos
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'll suggest to use Flash Forms with CFMX 7. Could be that very very easy.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Marco
> 
> 
> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:28:56 -0800, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I was wondering if its possible to right click a row and have multiple
> > form submit options.  I have a form which has many records being
> > outputted.  Each record has a radio button and the form has multiple
> > submit buttons.  Since the submit buttons are on top and bottom.. users
> > have to scroll down and select the record they want  and scroll up or
> > down to submit.  Is there a way to right click the row and have the
> > submit options come up?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tim
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Sourceless deployment in BlueDragon (was: CFMX 7 is released)

[Sean Corfield]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:54:25 -0500, Ben Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This all makes sense, except, why would the customer, having purchased a
> full copy of ColdFusion Enterpirse, want a crippled installation of
> ColdFusion Enterprise (i.e. sans the ColdFusion Administrator)?

Because they want a J2EE app not a ColdFusion app. With the new Admin
API you can build a custom console into your app for deployment
instead of the full CF Admin - because you will only need the subset
of admin features necessary for your app.

I demo'd this at Fusebox 2004 and I showed a Flash form-based wizard
that could set up a data source for the freshly installed application.
No source, no CF Admin. Simple to install for a J2EE shop, simple to
configure.
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RE: Admin - Digest messages

[Michael Dinowitz]

This is on my radar. It may be an issue with the new iMS or with the new CF
7 install and a mis-mapped dll in iMS. I'll have it fixed soon.
Sorry about that.
 
> Michael,
> 
> I haven't gotten any digest posts since yesterday. Anyone else not getting
> the digest posts?
> 
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Re: Outsourced support to India?

[Marco Antonio C. Santos]

MM helps the third world people with that. ;-)

Cheers

Marco


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 13:58:02 -0600, Ryan Kime <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> India? All joking aside, there are places in America where you can save
> labor costs. True, you won't get a PhD for $3.00/hr, but I digress.
> 
> I have been waiting for an article like this to prove my point...
> 
> Made in lower-cost America
> http://techrepublic.com.com/5100-10594_11-5567438.html?part=rss&tag=feed&sub
> j=tr#
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Outsourced support to India?
> 
> Then you'll need to put an office in Jacksonville, Florida immediately!
> 
> :P
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:01 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Outsourced support to India?
> 
> Yes, I'm director of engineering for CF (development staff, QA staff,
> program management and engineering management).  Like the Newton & SF
> offices, the Bangalore office is no different...we have various positions in
> all the offices on various teams.  It's all good...we have offices where the
> some of the world's best talent is at.
> 
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> 
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Admin - Digest messages

[Cedric Villat]

Michael,

I haven't gotten any digest posts since yesterday. Anyone else not getting the 
digest posts?

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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Dick Applebaum]

Thanks Dave, that really helps.

As I understand it the j2ee edition is the enterprise edition

But I don't want to pay for and deploy the full J2ee enterprise 
edition... I don't have a production web server, or a real web site.

But I do want to develop and distro apps as you describe: trial 
acpability, decaying into developer capability.

The intent is that the customer will be able to try my app before he 
buys it (without all the hassle of installing the component parts),'

Then when he buys my app he:

1) deploys it on his existing CF Server
2) Has his host service install it on hei server instance of  their 
existing CF Server
3) Buys a new license key and activates the CF server in my package 
and/or installs his own server.

This is not the only variation on the theme, but it is a good place to 
start.

I want to drive my own and MM's (in this case) business by letting the 
potential customer "try before you buy" with the most positive 
experience I can create (no installs, service packs, configs, 
deployments, etc).

If i do this properly the customer will buy my app and,
at the very least, he uses some of his existing CF capacity (makes him 
more likely to by add'l CF licenses, sooner);
or better; he buys a CF license so he can run my app;
or better, yet, hey buys the license and brags/tells all his peers 
about it (and my app)

Dick

"Everyone in every corner of the software business could learn a lot 
from iLife,"
— Bill Joy, co-founder and former chief scientist at Sun Microsystems

On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Dave Carabetta wrote:

> On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:32:10 -0800, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
>>
>> As I understand, it you may *not* redistro he MM software in any form
>> under this agreement!
>>
>> Given that I would pose the same questions again, in a slightly
>> different way:
>>
>> 1)Does Macromedia have a licensing agreement that allows me to 
>> redistro
>> the CFMX 7 J2ee Developer Version ( the localhost plus 2 IPs version )
>> as part of a package?
>>
>> 2) Does Macromedia have a licensing agreement that allows me to the
>> CFMX 7 J2ee Trial Version ( the 30-day version that reverts to 1 ) as
>> part of a package?
>>
>> 3) can the redistee buy and enter a valid license into either 1 or 2
>> and have a full j2ee entrenprise version ?
>>
>> 4) are there any licensing fees or redistro restrictions on 1 or 2.
>>
>> 5) can/will Macromedia fix 1 & 2 so they do not do a disk write
>> (license.properties) at startup so that they can run from CD/DVD?
>>
>
> I can't answer all these questions, but on 2 and 3, you have this in
> the Enterprise version in MX 7 already.
>
> Scenario:
> I'm PaperThin and have a client who does not own ColdFusion, but is
> interested in a trial of CommonSpot as their CMS solution. Instead of
> telling them "first download a trial of ColdFusion server and then you
> can install our trial," PaperThin can now use the EAR/WAR package
> manager in the MX Administrator (found in all MX7 versions, by the
> way) and create a EAR/WAR that has the CF runtime bundled with the
> CommonSpot application. By not entering a serial number at package
> creation time, you've just implicitly created a 30-day trial of the
> bundled CF/CommonSpot environment in one step, as that's the default
> way that the package manager works. After the 30-day trial, the
> combined setup reverts to the Developer edition of ColdFusion.
>
> Now let's say that the client has decided that CommonSpot is their
> choice. All they have to do is secure a Enterprise ColdFusion license
> for the appropriate number of servers/CPUs from a reseller or
> Macromedia sales person to convert the deployed application into a
> full Enterprise version. They would then either open up the MX
> Administrator (if PaperThin bundled it with the distro) or go to a
> page in the application that PaperThin has created that can
> programmatically set the serial number (via the new Admin API CFCs).
> Once that's done, they've got a full Enterprise version of ColdFusion
> with CommonSpot without having to re-install anything.
>
> Note that the above *deployment* scenario assumes the Enterpise
> version of ColdFusion only, as this is the only version of ColdFusion
> MX 7 that supports EAR/WAR deployment.
>
> Disclaimer: I don't work for PaperThin, nor have I used their product.
> I was simply using CommonSpot as it was the first commercial CF
> application that came to mind.
>
> As for the other questions, I can't answer them and will leave them to
> Macromedians.
>
> Regards,
> Dave.
>
> 

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Re: OT: right click submit options

[Marco Antonio C. Santos]

I'll suggest to use Flash Forms with CFMX 7. Could be that very very easy.

Cheers

Marco


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:28:56 -0800, Tim Do <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I was wondering if its possible to right click a row and have multiple
> form submit options.  I have a form which has many records being
> outputted.  Each record has a radio button and the form has multiple
> submit buttons.  Since the submit buttons are on top and bottom.. users
> have to scroll down and select the record they want  and scroll up or
> down to submit.  Is there a way to right click the row and have the
> submit options come up?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tim
> 
> 

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Re: Blog app

[Adrocknaphobia]

Actually, and I dont mean to trash Oracle here as I'm quite fond it.

But MSSQL is a bit faster than Oracle on smaller data sets. Oracle
doesn't beat MSSQL in performance until you hit 10ks of rows.

So technically it's underkill. :-P

-Adam


On Fri, 4 Feb 2005 12:57:42 -0500, Daniel Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 12:01 PM -0500 2/3/05, CF-Talk wrote:
> >"Y'know, I use Oracle as the DBMS for my blog."
> >
> >"Isn't that kinda overkill?"
> >
> >"Yeah, but your should hear the server growl whenever somebody pulls up
> >pictures of my cat!"
> 
> yeah it is probably overkill, but it's what the University supports
> and I use it whether I need to scale later or not.
> 
> It's good to hear that it might not be too hard.  It looked nice.
> 
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Re: <- Previous Page | Next Page ->

[Rick Root]

Discover Antartica wrote:
> if I have 100 records in total and I want to display them 20 on a page with 
> arrows at the bottm saying "previous 20 records" or "next 20 records", how do 
> i do it in Coldfusion?

Do it with CFML! :)

Seriously, assuming all of the rows are returned by your query on each 
page... something like this









PREV

PREV


#nextUrl#">NEXT

NEXT



  


---
However, to be more efficient, if your database supports it, make sure 
the query only returns the data you need... ie, in MySQL:

SELECT * FROM EMP
LIMIT 20 OFFSET 21

Returns 20 rows starting with row 21... then the code above wouldn't 
quite work because it relies on qry.recordCount to contain the total 
number of rows in the query.

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Re: More on FCKEditor... Not good

[russ]

> I'd be happy to test this for you on my server, but I'm confused as to
> what you're doing.
>
> So you're saying that FCKeditor is in a directory NOT protected by
> ..htaccess, and you're calling it into a page that IS protected by
> .htaccess?

Yes, exactly that.  It's an insanely odd behavior that happens on my end,
and while saying that my server is pretty damned new and stable, I know
it's not bulletproof by any means.

When the FCKeditor is pulled up in the protected area, and to be fair,
with 2 instances on the same page, sometimes the images don't all populate
(squares with x in them), sometimes styles don't get applied and firing
open images can get you the "forbidden" page.

Shortly thereafter, that particular site tends to fail magnificantly,
followed by the Fedora Core page and then in a minute or so it comes back.

Good times.


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RE: Outsourced support to India?

[Ryan Kime]

India? All joking aside, there are places in America where you can save
labor costs. True, you won't get a PhD for $3.00/hr, but I digress.

I have been waiting for an article like this to prove my point...

Made in lower-cost America
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j=tr#



-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Outsourced support to India?


Then you'll need to put an office in Jacksonville, Florida immediately! 

:P

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Yes, I'm director of engineering for CF (development staff, QA staff,
program management and engineering management).  Like the Newton & SF
offices, the Bangalore office is no different...we have various positions in
all the offices on various teams.  It's all good...we have offices where the
some of the world's best talent is at.

Damon





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problems installing mx7

[dan martin]

Anyone else have problems installing it? It said it installed properly and I 
can run cfm pages through it, but going to the cfide/administrator/index.cfm 
page displays garbage on the screen. I uninstalled and reinstalled with all the 
default setting with the same results.

I am running on win xp with apache with the 30 day trial version downloaded 
today. Anyone have any ideas how to troubleshoot this?

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Re: OT SQL question

[Jochem van Dieten]

Eric Creese wrote:
> I want to verify email addresses that are entered into one of my apps. 
> Unfortunately I already inherited close to 100k email address. So I want to 
> do the following in SQL via a stored procedure so I can write the bad 
> addresses out to an error table. Need to check if there is an @ sign, if the 
> TDL is valid from the list I have from ICANN. When I check through each like 
> statement but that is not going to work. Any other ideas? This can not be 
> done through a CF page but eventually the result will b posted to one.

First create a table with all your TLDs and then:
INSERT INTO bademail (personid,email)
SELECT DISTINCT personid, email
FROM People LEFT JOIN tlds ON (people.email LIKE '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' || 
tlds.tld)
WHERE MbrExpireDate > '2/1/2005'
AND tlds.tld IS NULL

This presumes standard SQL, i.e. || is the concatenation operator 
and _ means exactly one character.

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Re: More on FCKEditor... Not good

[Rick Root]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Can anyone verify/validate that they've used FCKeditor existing in a
> public location and by calling it into an .htaccess protected area?
> 
> Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that something could be F'd with the
> server (particularly with some of the issues with the banner hosting), but
> in order to effectively troubleshoot, I want to dot that i and cross that
> t.

I'd be happy to test this for you on my server, but I'm confused as to 
what you're doing.

So you're saying that FCKeditor is in a directory NOT protected by 
..htaccess, and you're calling it into a page that IS protected by .htaccess?

Right now I've got a site that is fully protected by .htaccess and it 
all works fine, with the editor on a page in the main directory.

  - Rick

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Re: Ben, I need new CF books!

[Adam Haskell]

Ben read the book? Are you crazy? Ben talks so damn fast you would
never be able to retain everything he says

Adam H


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:16:29 -0800, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:07 AM, Matthew Small wrote:
> 
> > Now if there is a DRM-encrypted
> > electronic book, that may do the trick, but you still would run the
> > risk of
> > some joker hacking the material and distributing it.
> >
> > - Matt Small
> >
> 
> O. an audio book on the iTunes Music store... for purchase &
> download to your iPod... a version with pictures for the iPod photo...
> code snippets on the iPod shuffle!
> 
> Read to me Ben!
> 
> Dick
> 
> 
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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Dave Carabetta]

On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:32:10 -0800, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> As I understand, it you may *not* redistro he MM software in any form
> under this agreement!
> 
> Given that I would pose the same questions again, in a slightly
> different way:
> 
> 1)Does Macromedia have a licensing agreement that allows me to redistro
> the CFMX 7 J2ee Developer Version ( the localhost plus 2 IPs version )
> as part of a package?
> 
> 2) Does Macromedia have a licensing agreement that allows me to the
> CFMX 7 J2ee Trial Version ( the 30-day version that reverts to 1 ) as
> part of a package?
> 
> 3) can the redistee buy and enter a valid license into either 1 or 2
> and have a full j2ee entrenprise version ?
> 
> 4) are there any licensing fees or redistro restrictions on 1 or 2.
> 
> 5) can/will Macromedia fix 1 & 2 so they do not do a disk write
> (license.properties) at startup so that they can run from CD/DVD?
> 

I can't answer all these questions, but on 2 and 3, you have this in
the Enterprise version in MX 7 already.

Scenario:
I'm PaperThin and have a client who does not own ColdFusion, but is
interested in a trial of CommonSpot as their CMS solution. Instead of
telling them "first download a trial of ColdFusion server and then you
can install our trial," PaperThin can now use the EAR/WAR package
manager in the MX Administrator (found in all MX7 versions, by the
way) and create a EAR/WAR that has the CF runtime bundled with the
CommonSpot application. By not entering a serial number at package
creation time, you've just implicitly created a 30-day trial of the
bundled CF/CommonSpot environment in one step, as that's the default
way that the package manager works. After the 30-day trial, the
combined setup reverts to the Developer edition of ColdFusion.

Now let's say that the client has decided that CommonSpot is their
choice. All they have to do is secure a Enterprise ColdFusion license
for the appropriate number of servers/CPUs from a reseller or
Macromedia sales person to convert the deployed application into a
full Enterprise version. They would then either open up the MX
Administrator (if PaperThin bundled it with the distro) or go to a
page in the application that PaperThin has created that can
programmatically set the serial number (via the new Admin API CFCs).
Once that's done, they've got a full Enterprise version of ColdFusion
with CommonSpot without having to re-install anything.

Note that the above *deployment* scenario assumes the Enterpise
version of ColdFusion only, as this is the only version of ColdFusion
MX 7 that supports EAR/WAR deployment.

Disclaimer: I don't work for PaperThin, nor have I used their product.
I was simply using CommonSpot as it was the first commercial CF
application that came to mind.

As for the other questions, I can't answer them and will leave them to
Macromedians.

Regards,
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Re: <- Previous Page | Next Page ->

[Charlie Griefer]

that's a pretty generic question.

there are a couple of tutorials on easycfm.com that show a few ways to do this.


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 11:43:24 -0800 (PST), Discover Antartica
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> if I have 100 records in total and I want to display them 20 on a page with 
> arrows at the bottm saying "previous 20 records" or "next 20 records", how do 
> i do it in Coldfusion?
> 
> 

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RE: OT SQL question

[Eric Creese]

Thanks but I also need to try to test the TDLs like .com, .net, .uk...

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Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT SQL question


I think you can write a UDF to validate email addresses. Here is link 

http://vyaskn.tripod.com/handling_email_addresses_in_sql_server.htm


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:55:42 -0600, Eric Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to verify email addresses that are entered into one of my apps. 
> Unfortunately I already inherited close to 100k email address. So I want to 
> do the following in SQL via a stored procedure so I can write the bad 
> addresses out to an error table. Need to check if there is an @ sign, if the 
> TDL is valid from the list I have from ICANN. When I check through each like 
> statement but that is not going to work. Any other ideas? This can not be 
> done through a CF page but eventually the result will b posted to one.
> 
> SELECT DISTINCT personid,email
> FROM People
> WHERE MbrExpireDate > '2/1/2005'
> AND (email not like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> OR email NOT LIKE '%.AC'
> 
> OR email NOT LIKE '%.ZW')
> 
> 



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Re: <- Previous Page | Next Page ->

[Bryan Stevenson]

Look for custom tags with "pageinate" in the name...I bet you'll find some 
on Google or in the MM Developer's exchange ina  hurryno point in 
re-inveting the wheel ;-)

HTH

Cheers

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Subject: <- Previous Page | Next Page ->


> if I have 100 records in total and I want to display them 20 on a page 
> with arrows at the bottm saying "previous 20 records" or "next 20 
> records", how do i do it in Coldfusion?
>
>
>
>
> 

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<- Previous Page | Next Page ->

[Discover Antartica]

if I have 100 records in total and I want to display them 20 on a page with 
arrows at the bottm saying "previous 20 records" or "next 20 records", how do i 
do it in Coldfusion?




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Re: More on FCKEditor... Not good

[russ]

Can anyone verify/validate that they've used FCKeditor existing in a
public location and by calling it into an .htaccess protected area?

Don't get me wrong, I don't doubt that something could be F'd with the
server (particularly with some of the issues with the banner hosting), but
in order to effectively troubleshoot, I want to dot that i and cross that
t.

Thanks!

> Matt Robertson wrote:
>> You've got something funky going on in-house.  It shouldn't do that.
>>
>
> No doubt.  FCKeditor is just HTML and javascript, it can't do anything
> to the server, except make a lot of http requests (ie, when the editor
> loads, a it loads a bunch of image icons, javascripts, etc...
>
> You've definately got something else going on.  Maybe it has something
> to do with your configuration, or your mapping.  I use fckEditor in just
> about every app I build, and it works great.



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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Dick Applebaum]

"The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are  
composed entirely of lost airline luggage."
- Mark Russell -

On Feb 8, 2005, at 11:05 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

> Ben Rogers wrote:
>>>
>>> Both are answered in the license agreement. (You did read it, right?)
>>
>> Where would one find this agreement?
>
> http://www.google.com/search? 
> q=site%3Amacromedia.com+distribution+license+coldfusion
>
> Jochem
>

Thanks, Jochem

Read it.

As I understand, it you may *not* redistro he MM software in any form  
under this agreement!

Given that I would pose the same questions again, in a slightly  
different way:


1)Does Macromedia have a licensing agreement that allows me to redistro  
the CFMX 7 J2ee Developer Version ( the localhost plus 2 IPs version )  
as part of a package?

2) Does Macromedia have a licensing agreement that allows me to the  
CFMX 7 J2ee Trial Version ( the 30-day version that reverts to 1 ) as  
part of a package?

3) can the redistee buy and enter a valid license into either 1 or 2  
and have a full j2ee entrenprise version ?

4) are there any licensing fees or redistro restrictions on 1 or 2.

5) can/will Macromedia fix 1 & 2 so they do not do a disk write  
(license.properties) at startup so that they can run from CD/DVD?

And, I am posting theme here because:

1) there seems to be interest from others

2) I am hoping this interest will cause MM to consider resistro  
licenses at low fees


Dick


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Re: Slightly OT: XHTML (was Re: cfset ?)

[Nathan Strutz]

Pardon me as I catch up on my CF-Talk reading here...


Claude Schneegans wrote:
> 
>  >> single tags such as , , etc close themselves (a la ).
> 
> Completely useless, but anyway...

Useless looking, but making your pages fully standard XML is an awesome 
thing.


>>>2) all tag attributes must be lowercase.  
> 
> This I really hate. Since HTML is actually a mix of several languages like 
> Javascript, CSS, etc,

See, that's where you're wrong. HTML, especially XHTML, isn't a mix of 
any other languages. Just like you should practice MVC on the 
server-side, you split your structure (html) from your presentation 
(css) from your behavior (js) on the client side. They're separate and 
don't need to be mixed. Here's a couple recent references:

http://adactio.com/articles/display.php/this_year's_document_object_model
http://www.alistapart.com/articles/scripttriggers/


> and text, I find much clearer to have all tags in upper case, including CFML, 
> and the rest in lowercase.
> It is much easier to separate different parts, especially that text is mostly 
> lower case.

It can be easier to read, uppercased, but it's part of the basics of 
XML. When you get used to it, lowercase tags are much easier to read, 
but that's me.

-nathan strutz


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RE: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deploy ment...

[Dave Watts]

> > > I generally accept license agreements, because only lawyers 
> > > can understand them
> >
> > Nonsense.

Jochem is right to point this out, although he may have done it a bit
bluntly. EULAs aren't rocket science, and it's important for developers to
know the licenses that control the tools they use to do their jobs. This is
especially true for people like you, who're interested in running CF
applications off of iPods, etc! (I call these sorts of people "crazy", but
to each his own.)

Now, you may not want to read this stuff during the actual process of
installation - I did the same thing as you and clicked through it - but
after the installation the license is right there on your computer. On my
Windows CFMX 7 multiserver J2EE install, it's at c:\jrun4\license.txt. And,
of course, all of the product licenses are available directly from the
Macromedia site.

> You may be correct on both issues, but that doesn't excuse 
> your being rude!

In Jochem's defense, I don't think his intent was to be rude, but rather to
provide the maximum amount of information in the minimum amount of space as
he typically does.

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Re: Ben, I need new CF books!

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

YES!!! Minnesota finally makes it onto the Map.

I love it... prairie home coldfusion... nice.

But, I would love an e-book copy of the WACK, for no other reason than
that I have my T3 with me all the time and searching for specifics is
easier... plus it's easier to carry in a briefcase than a 6-pound book
and I can still have it right in front of me instead of on-screen on
the PC.

Just a thought...

Laterz,
J


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 10:54:19 -0800, Dick Applebaum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Small wrote:
> 
> >> O. an audio book on the iTunes Music store... for purchase &
> >> download to your iPod... a version with pictures for the iPod photo...
> >> code snippets on the iPod shuffle!
> >>
> >> Read to me Ben!
> >>
> >> Dick
> >
> > Exactly...only if Ben (or maybe I'd make an exception if Tim Buntel or
> > Simon
> > took turns) read it to us
> >
> > Or wait, do you think we could get Al Franken to read it?
> >
> 
> Not enough swear words lets see... Orson Welles and Jean Shepard
> have passed... what about Garrison Keillor...
> 
> I can't resist... A Prairie Home ColdFusion. Bee Bop a Ree Bop a
> Rhubarb Pie...
> 
>  I've had too much stimulation the past few days
> 
> Dick
> 
> Your typical corporate CIO must be wondering, "Why aren't there some
> nice new exciting applications for me?" Nothing has really changed in
> his world, while on the consumer side there's all this cool new stuff
> like iTunes and the iPod and iPhoto and iMovie. That's where the real
> innovation is now, and Apple is driving it.
> — Bill Joy, co-founder and former chief scientist at Sun Microsystems
> 
> 
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Re: OT SQL question

[Qasim Rasheed]

I think you can write a UDF to validate email addresses. Here is link 

http://vyaskn.tripod.com/handling_email_addresses_in_sql_server.htm


On Tue, 8 Feb 2005 12:55:42 -0600, Eric Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to verify email addresses that are entered into one of my apps. 
> Unfortunately I already inherited close to 100k email address. So I want to 
> do the following in SQL via a stored procedure so I can write the bad 
> addresses out to an error table. Need to check if there is an @ sign, if the 
> TDL is valid from the list I have from ICANN. When I check through each like 
> statement but that is not going to work. Any other ideas? This can not be 
> done through a CF page but eventually the result will b posted to one.
> 
> SELECT DISTINCT personid,email
> FROM People
> WHERE MbrExpireDate > '2/1/2005'
> AND (email not like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> OR email NOT LIKE '%.AC'
> 
> OR email NOT LIKE '%.ZW')
> 
> 

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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Jochem van Dieten]

Ben Rogers wrote:
>>
>> Both are answered in the license agreement. (You did read it, right?)
> 
> Where would one find this agreement?

http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Amacromedia.com+distribution+license+coldfusion

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RE: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deploy ment...

[Dave Watts]

> > If you start a new thread, please start a new thread and 
> > don't respond to an old one. When you respond to an old one 
> > your email client will send a "References" header which tells 
> > that it is not a new thread.
> 
> And we all know that's the end of the world.

I think that it was appropriate for Jochem to ask for this. It is an
annoyance for people who follow threads, and Jochem asked politely. I get
complaints about this quite a bit on the Flashcoders list, actually, but
there's nothing I can do to force people to comply.

> Where would one find this agreement? Are you referring to the 
> EULA? You're not suggesting that we sign up for a Macromedia 
> account, download and install the software, and sift through 
> all the legal mumbo jumbo just find out the answer to a few 
> questions that a lot of us on this list would like to know?

http://www.macromedia.com/software/eula/

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OT SQL question

[Eric Creese]

I want to verify email addresses that are entered into one of my apps. 
Unfortunately I already inherited close to 100k email address. So I want to do 
the following in SQL via a stored procedure so I can write the bad addresses 
out to an error table. Need to check if there is an @ sign, if the TDL is valid 
from the list I have from ICANN. When I check through each like statement but 
that is not going to work. Any other ideas? This can not be done through a CF 
page but eventually the result will b posted to one.
 
SELECT DISTINCT personid,email
FROM People 
WHERE MbrExpireDate > '2/1/2005'
AND (email not like '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
OR email NOT LIKE '%.AC'

OR email NOT LIKE '%.ZW')


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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Dick Applebaum]

"The scientific theory I like best is that the rings of Saturn are 
composed entirely of lost airline luggage."
- Mark Russell -

On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:48 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

> Dick Applebaum wrote:
>> On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>>> Dick Applebaum wrote:

 1) Can I redistro the CFMX 7 J2ee Developer Version ( the localhost
 plus 2 IPs version ) as part of a package?

 2) Can I redistro the CFMX 7 J2ee Trial Version ( the 30-day version
 that reverts to 1 ) as part of a package?
>>>
>>> Both are answered in the license agreement. (You did read it, right?)
>>
>> No, I haven't (I must be the only one)
>>
>> I generally accept license agreements, because only lawyers can
>> understand them
>
> Nonsense.
>
>
>> The 2 questions are part of a series of 5 interrelated questions.
>
> The answer to the first 2 questions makes the rest of the
> questions irrelevant anyway.
>
> Jochem
>

You may be correct on both issues, but that doesn't excuse your being 
rude!

Dick


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RE: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Ben Rogers]

> If you start a new thread, please start a new thread and don't
> respond to an old one. When you respond to an old one your email
> client will send a "References" header which tells that it is not
> a new thread.

And we all know that's the end of the world.

> > 1) Can I redistro the CFMX 7 J2ee Developer Version ( the localhost
> > plus 2 IPs version ) as part of a package?
> >
> > 2) Can I redistro the CFMX 7 J2ee Trial Version ( the 30-day version
> > that reverts to 1 ) as part of a package?
> 
> Both are answered in the license agreement. (You did read it, right?)

Where would one find this agreement? Are you referring to the EULA? You're
not suggesting that we sign up for a Macromedia account, download and
install the software, and sift through all the legal mumbo jumbo just find
out the answer to a few questions that a lot of us on this list would like
to know?

Seriously, if you don't have anything to add to a conversation, don't post.

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Re: Ben, I need new CF books!

[Dick Applebaum]

On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:42 AM, Jeff Small wrote:

>> O. an audio book on the iTunes Music store... for purchase &
>> download to your iPod... a version with pictures for the iPod photo...
>> code snippets on the iPod shuffle!
>>
>> Read to me Ben!
>>
>> Dick
>
> Exactly...only if Ben (or maybe I'd make an exception if Tim Buntel or 
> Simon
> took turns) read it to us
>
> Or wait, do you think we could get Al Franken to read it?
>

Not enough swear words lets see... Orson Welles and Jean Shepard 
have passed... what about Garrison Keillor...

I can't resist... A Prairie Home ColdFusion. Bee Bop a Ree Bop a 
Rhubarb Pie...

 I've had too much stimulation the past few days

Dick

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nice new exciting applications for me?" Nothing has really changed in 
his world, while on the consumer side there's all this cool new stuff 
like iTunes and the iPod and iPhoto and iMovie. That's where the real 
innovation is now, and Apple is driving it.
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RE: Ben, I need new CF books!

[Damien McKenna]

Once upon a time there were two child objects lost in a procedural
universe, they had no parent objects.

Continue..

-- 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Jeff Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:42 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Ben, I need new CF books!
> 
> Exactly...only if Ben (or maybe I'd make an exception if Tim 
> Buntel or Simon took turns) read it to us


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Re: Can you redistro developer version was: Re: Sourceless deployment...

[Jochem van Dieten]

Dick Applebaum wrote:
> On Feb 8, 2005, at 10:13 AM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>> Dick Applebaum wrote:
>>> 
>>> 1) Can I redistro the CFMX 7 J2ee Developer Version ( the localhost
>>> plus 2 IPs version ) as part of a package?
>>> 
>>> 2) Can I redistro the CFMX 7 J2ee Trial Version ( the 30-day version
>>> that reverts to 1 ) as part of a package?
>> 
>> Both are answered in the license agreement. (You did read it, right?)
> 
> No, I haven't (I must be the only one)
> 
> I generally accept license agreements, because only lawyers can 
> understand them

Nonsense.


> The 2 questions are part of a series of 5 interrelated questions.

The answer to the first 2 questions makes the rest of the 
questions irrelevant anyway.

Jochem

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Re: Time Entry code

[Chris Tilley]

Eric,

I'd love to see what you have?  I have no problems importing the
existing excel sheets into the database.

Chris



On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:25:38 -0600, Eric Creese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I wrote an application that do this all you would have to do is import the 
> existing excel sheet into the database. of course there will be a need for 
> modifying the excel to meet the database schema.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Troy Simpson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, February 07, 2005 1:24 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Time Entry code
> 
> Chris,
> 
> Was'up...
> Use ColdFusion Components and with a Flash MX front end.
> 
> Sorry, but I have no code to share though.
> 
> Troy
> 
> On Mon, 7 Feb 2005 13:06:17 -0500, Chris Tilley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My client would like to take an existing Excel spreadsheet that is
> > used for employee timesheet entry and convert it to a web based
> > application.  Has anyone attempted this?  Any helpful pointers would
> > be greatly appreciated.  Also, if code is available (coldfusion) I'd
> > be interested.
> > --
> > Chris Tilley
> >
> >
> 
> 

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