RE: pdf to jpg

[Hugo Ahlenius]

|I was hoping to avoid imagemagick.  I might just have to search for a
|command line executable specific to this.   I would give the
|world for a pdf
|to jpg and ai to jpg app!

Late reply -- Emmet - I think there is functionality in ghostscript to
do this (this is probably what imagemagick is dependent on..)

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Re: Business Case for a 4.5 -> 7 upgrade

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

The availability of object orientation in CF, the fact that the apps
run as Java bytecode after being converted, better error handling,
better/faster/cooler forms generation, no more C++ runtime compiled
pages for a tremendous performance increase, much-updated database
drivers, substantial improvements to things that didn't even *exist*
in 4.5 like Query of Queries and charting and reports.

The availablity of cftrace, cfdump, cflog and vastly improved
cftry/cfcatch/cfthrow tags. In CFMX 6.1 and 7 the cferror tag will
even allow you to choose from 3 different types of errors, and
depending on which you have the flexibility to cfmail the error
contents to yourself. I don't recall that being possible in 4.5,
although that might have been my one 3.1.1 project. Either way, error
handling is drastically better in CF, as are all the troubleshooting
tools.

Cfhttp finally works consistently and pleasantly. Which it always did,
unless it didn't. When it didn't... it really didn't. I trust I make
myself obscure. :)

Cfreport is ancient history. Crystal reports is no longer a valid
option, and what we do have directly integrates with CF.
Best-in-class, baby!

Leverage the power of external Java classes. There's a hundred million
bajillion java classes out there, and with cfobject/createObject we
can now pull them right, straight into CF and use them. I had to have
a little help with my first try, but I was finally able to get a Java
object working that allows me to resolve IP addresses to hostnames
from within a CF app... without cfexecute or cfhttp. It was way cool.

And finally, tell them this: They pay you. If they were to drop a bit
of change on CFMX, they could pay you to be productive instead of
paying you to waste time fixing things that don't need to be broken.

Ok, maybe don't tell them that. Something like it maybe, but not
exactly that. ;)

Good luck!

Laterz,
J

On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 23:46:29 -0500, Rick Root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Duncan I Loxton wrote:
> >
> > Are there any other really good reasons (from a Chief Exec level) that
> > would be great to convince them to change?
> 
> Maintainability.
> 
> And, you might find that, if the time comes, finding a developer willing
> to do be stuck doing CF 4.5 work might be hard =)
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Re: Business Case for a 4.5 -> 7 upgrade

[Simon Horwith]

Many people have already responded to your post - and all of their 
reasons are valid.  Based on what you've said, I can tell you that I'll 
verify all of the reasons you wanted verified, except for the  
"development time decreased" reason... that may or may not be true 
depending on what you want to do?  Speaking of "what you want to do"... 
there could be one or one hundred reasons to upgrade depending on what 
you want to do.  You only mentioned reporting and pagination... both of 
which, ColdFusion MX 7 has made huge advances in.  If you can be more 
specific about what you (or your employer) want to accomplish, we can 
give you better ammunition.

~Simon

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Duncan I Loxton wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>I have taken the opportunity to strike on the new version of CFMX and
>get the ailing company I work for to drag themselves into the new
>century with a spanking new version of CF.  This means getting the
>money out of the Board and convincing them that its worth it, by means
>of a business case documentation.
>
>Now we run our internal mission critical app on 4.5, our intranet on
>6.1 and 5 odd websites on 4.5.  We have CF server crashes more than
>you can imagine, and I hope 7 will be able to go some way to helping
>us out.
>
>As you can all imagine we fight on a daily basis with the server,
>reporting and pagination etc etc
>
>The reasons I have so far (which I would like verified):
>Multiple instances of the server can be clustered - in effect
>performing failover - therfore reliability
>improved reporting using flash
>multi part forms in flash with tabs
>Printability in flash and pdf generation
>development time decreased
>ability to move into apps via sms, and onto mobile devices
>better comm via web services.
>
>Are there any other really good reasons (from a Chief Exec level) that
>would be great to convince them to change?
>
>I hope this will promote a bit of dialogue, I am certainly interested
>as to what great reasons I can give.
>
>Thanks!
>
>  
>



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Re:

[Bert Dawson]

> CREATE TABLE HartGraph (
>  IDNumb int NOT NULL default 0,
>  HorizMark  int NOT NULL default 0,
> )
> 

the above CREATE TABLE statement will also create you a couple of
default contraints, using automatically generated names. In effect the
above query was run as:

CREATE TABLE HartGraph (
 IDNumb int NOT NULL default 0,
 HorizMark  int NOT NULL CONSTRAINT
DF__HartGrap__Horiz__123EB7A3 default 0,
)

You are going to have to drop the contraint before you can change the column:

ALTER TABLE HartGraph DROP CONSTRAINT  DF__HartGrap__Horiz__123EB7A3

You should then be able to run your alter column statement

ALTER TABLE HartGraph
ALTER COLUMN HorizMark VARCHAR( 20 ) NULL

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RE: Business Case for a 4.5 -> 7 upgrade

[Calvin Ward]

Just a thought, considering that 4.5 doesn't support even UDFs, I can see
how any given project, with that feature alone, could be a little bit faster
to code...

4.5 is slow, unsupported by MM and doesn't adequately support certain
current technologies such as XML, Web services and Unicode.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 4:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Business Case for a 4.5 -> 7 upgrade

Many people have already responded to your post - and all of their 
reasons are valid.  Based on what you've said, I can tell you that I'll 
verify all of the reasons you wanted verified, except for the  
"development time decreased" reason... that may or may not be true 
depending on what you want to do?  Speaking of "what you want to do"... 
there could be one or one hundred reasons to upgrade depending on what 
you want to do.  You only mentioned reporting and pagination... both of 
which, ColdFusion MX 7 has made huge advances in.  If you can be more 
specific about what you (or your employer) want to accomplish, we can 
give you better ammunition.

~Simon

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Duncan I Loxton wrote:

>Hi everyone,
>
>I have taken the opportunity to strike on the new version of CFMX and
>get the ailing company I work for to drag themselves into the new
>century with a spanking new version of CF.  This means getting the
>money out of the Board and convincing them that its worth it, by means
>of a business case documentation.
>
>Now we run our internal mission critical app on 4.5, our intranet on
>6.1 and 5 odd websites on 4.5.  We have CF server crashes more than
>you can imagine, and I hope 7 will be able to go some way to helping
>us out.
>
>As you can all imagine we fight on a daily basis with the server,
>reporting and pagination etc etc
>
>The reasons I have so far (which I would like verified):
>Multiple instances of the server can be clustered - in effect
>performing failover - therfore reliability
>improved reporting using flash
>multi part forms in flash with tabs
>Printability in flash and pdf generation
>development time decreased
>ability to move into apps via sms, and onto mobile devices
>better comm via web services.
>
>Are there any other really good reasons (from a Chief Exec level) that
>would be great to convince them to change?
>
>I hope this will promote a bit of dialogue, I am certainly interested
>as to what great reasons I can give.
>
>Thanks!
>
>  
>





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New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query columns

[Martin Parry]

I have today posted a feature request on MM's website.. If anyone else
agrees with it and would us it please also request it.

Due to changes in the way CF7 handles casting on queries, I can no
longer populate a string value into an integer column using . Assuming I had a unique_id of 21014 I may want to
prefix this with PID_ - I now get a manky error - Invalid data PID_21014
for CFSQLTYPE CF_SQL_INTEGER.

A  would
be a real bonus as I'm now needing to kludge around this. 

Post it on... http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/

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Re: pdf to jpg

[David Fafard]

I'm using PDF To Image Converter 1.3 from verypdf.com
it's US $59.00

This is called from the command line and has served my purpose well.
What I am doing is creating large jpg "thumbnails" of pdf engineering docs
using this tool.

http://www.verypdf.com


Dave Fafard


- Original Message - 
From: "Hugo Ahlenius" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:57 AM
Subject: RE: pdf to jpg


|I was hoping to avoid imagemagick.  I might just have to search for a
|command line executable specific to this.   I would give the
|world for a pdf
|to jpg and ai to jpg app!

Late reply -- Emmet - I think there is functionality in ghostscript to
do this (this is probably what imagemagick is dependent on..)

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RE: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query c olumns

[James Holmes]

Ah, this just proves that we should all be careful what we wish for in the
first place. The query object in CF6 can store anything you want with no
complaint - I even store structs in query cells (using the query as a 2D
array of structs with named columns). We asked for control over typing in
queries and this is what we got. Oops.

It sounds like it's time to write that QueryCastColumn UDF after all...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2005 8:17 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query columns

I have today posted a feature request on MM's website.. If anyone else
agrees with it and would us it please also request it.

Due to changes in the way CF7 handles casting on queries, I can no longer
populate a string value into an integer column using . Assuming I had a unique_id of 21014 I may want to
prefix this with PID_ - I now get a manky error - Invalid data PID_21014 for
CFSQLTYPE CF_SQL_INTEGER.

A  would be
a real bonus as I'm now needing to kludge around this. 

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RE: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query columns

[Martin Parry]

Hiya - I too store WDDX and structures in query cells - So it WAS YOUR
FAULT it's broken :p  - My own stooped fault for not testing EVERYTHING
while it was in Beta - bugger!

As I say I've kludged it for now by writing a quick custom tag but it
seems too klunky - I'm sure at Java code level they could perform it a
lot quicker - particularly on large result sets.

Martin Parry
Macromedia Certified Developer
http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 February 2005 13:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query
c olumns

Ah, this just proves that we should all be careful what we wish for in
the
first place. The query object in CF6 can store anything you want with no
complaint - I even store structs in query cells (using the query as a 2D
array of structs with named columns). We asked for control over typing
in
queries and this is what we got. Oops.

It sounds like it's time to write that QueryCastColumn UDF after all...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2005 8:17 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query
columns

I have today posted a feature request on MM's website.. If anyone else
agrees with it and would us it please also request it.

Due to changes in the way CF7 handles casting on queries, I can no
longer
populate a string value into an integer column using . Assuming I had a unique_id of 21014 I may want to
prefix this with PID_ - I now get a manky error - Invalid data PID_21014
for
CFSQLTYPE CF_SQL_INTEGER.

A  would
be
a real bonus as I'm now needing to kludge around this. 

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Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

[Matthew Small]

Hi,

One of my users pastes text into a form from his Mac word
processor.  Quite frequently, the document contains "smart quotes" - curly
quotes that go on each end of a string.  Apparently, some PCs have issues
displaying these characters, so I need to know how to convert them to
straight normal quotes.

I am under the impression that these are Unicode characters as
opposed to ASCII characters.  As such, I am unsure how to do a replace in CF
- MX 6.1. I've looked in the livedocs but I don't see a function that works
like chr() for Unicode.  What am I missing here?

 

Thank you,

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Using Application.cfc has decreased performance

[Stavros Tekes]

Hi All,

I have replaced Application.cfm in an old application of mine with 
Application.cfc.

The events set there are OnRequestStart (checking to see if user has logged in 
and initializes variables in the request scope) and onRequest (that cfincludes 
a page according to a URL parameter).

I noticed a performance delay on the new version of the application. some pages 
need almost twice the time to load than they did before.

Has anyone observed anything similar?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

[Doug James]

Take a look into XMLHTTPRequest  
it will allow you to 
send a request to a page after the first drop down is selected without having 
to do a page refresh.

Just a thought.

Doug

Discover Antartica wrote:
> I want to display the data in two select boxes.  For example, I want to 
> display two select boxes. In the first one I want to display the list of the 
> category of employees (like full time, part time, contract, etc)
>  
> On the second select list i want to display the list of employees in that 
> category. For example, if the user clicks on the part time then the second 
> box should display all part time employees only.
>  
> Is there a easy way for this?
>  
>  
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 

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Re: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

[J M]

I've done something similar using JavaScript on our site for lists of makes & 
models of cars.  The first box displays a list of makes, and depending on the 
make selected, the second displays all the models for that make.  That list is 
huge, but here's an abbreviated version using a few makes:


function models_ChangeMenu()
{
NewOpt = new Array;
NewVal = new Array;

menuNum = 
document.search.make.options[document.search.make.selectedIndex].value; 

if (document.search.make.selectedIndex == 0)
{
document.search.model.disabled = true;
}
else
{
document.search.model.disabled = false;
document.search.model.focus();
}

if (menuNum == "Wartburg")
{
NewOpt[0] = new Option("-Search All " + 
document.search.make[document.search.make.selectedIndex].text + " Models"); 
NewOpt[0].value = '';
NewOpt[1] = new Option("1.3");  NewOpt[1].value = "1.3";
NewOpt[2] = new Option("311");  NewOpt[2].value = "311";
NewOpt[3] = new Option("312");  NewOpt[3].value = "312";
NewOpt[4] = new Option("353");  NewOpt[4].value = 
"353";
}

if (menuNum == "Bond Bug")
{
NewOpt[0] = new Option("-Search All " + 
document.search.make[document.search.make.selectedIndex].text + " Models"); 
NewOpt[0].value = '';
NewOpt[1] = new Option("700E"); NewOpt[1].value = 
"700E";
NewOpt[2] = new Option("700ES");NewOpt[2].value 
= "700ES";
NewOpt[3] = new Option("750E"); NewOpt[3].value = 
"750E";
NewOpt[4] = new Option("750ES");NewOpt[4].value 
= "750ES";
}

if (menuNum == "Bobsy")
{
NewOpt[0] = new Option("-Search All " + 
document.search.make[document.search.make.selectedIndex].text + " Models"); 
NewOpt[0].value = '';
NewOpt[1] = new Option("SR2");  NewOpt[1].value = 
"SR2";
}   

tot = NewOpt.length;
lst = document.search.model.options.length;

for (i = lst; i > 0; i--) {
  document.search.model.options[i] = null;
}

for (i = 0; i < tot; i++) {
  document.search.model.options[i] = NewOpt[i];
}
  
  document.search.model.options[0].selected = true; 
}


The form part would look something like this:




   -Search All Makes  
   Wartburg   
   Bond Bug   
   Bobsy 



   -Search All Models




When the selected value of the first drop-down changes, the second displays the 
associated values that are specified for that selection in the javascript (the 
same happens when the onfocus event is triggered in the second drop-down).  
It's probably worth mentioning that this implementation puts the processing on 
the client.  I'm not sure how this will come through on the forum, so feel free 
to email me for a copy of this code.



>Look for TwoSelectsRelated tag in the Exchange
>I have used it in the past along with ThreeSelectsRelated 
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Discover Antartica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 4:27 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's
>display depends on the first one
>
>I want to display the data in two select boxes.  For example, I want to
>display two select boxes. In the first one I want to display the list of
>the category of employees (like full time, part time, contract, etc)
> 
>On the second select list i want to display the list of employees in
>that category. For example, if the user clicks on the part time then the
>second box should display all part time employees only.
> 
>Is there a easy way for this?

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Re: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

[Adam Haskell]

That does not work on some browsers most notably Opera, i beleive. So
be careful of this if you want cross browser support. Alternatively
you could use a hidden iframe as an alternative which is what we use
in some instances.We also use assosiative arrays in javascript.

Adam H 


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:31:42 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Take a look into XMLHTTPRequest 
>  it will allow you to
> send a request to a page after the first drop down is selected without having 
> to do a page refresh.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> Doug
> 
> Discover Antartica wrote:
> > I want to display the data in two select boxes.  For example, I want to 
> > display two select boxes. In the first one I want to display the list of 
> > the category of employees (like full time, part time, contract, etc)
> >
> > On the second select list i want to display the list of employees in that 
> > category. For example, if the user clicks on the part time then the second 
> > box should display all part time employees only.
> >
> > Is there a easy way for this?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

[Martin Parry]

How about this - found it the other day while trying to solve a similair
thing where verity wasn't indexing TM signs so I needed to convert them
to normal HTML codes.




























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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 February 2005 13:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

Hi,

One of my users pastes text into a form from his Mac word
processor.  Quite frequently, the document contains "smart quotes" -
curly
quotes that go on each end of a string.  Apparently, some PCs have
issues
displaying these characters, so I need to know how to convert them to
straight normal quotes.

I am under the impression that these are Unicode characters
as
opposed to ASCII characters.  As such, I am unsure how to do a replace
in CF
- MX 6.1. I've looked in the livedocs but I don't see a function that
works
like chr() for Unicode.  What am I missing here?

 

Thank you,

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xml to struct help

[Doug James]

Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against the wall 
over this one.

Given this XML snippet:

ABC Co.


This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and 
"maxRows" attributes.
find_business = structNew();
find_business.generic = "2.0";
find_business.maxRows = "10";

What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do 
find_business.name = "ABC 
Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.

Any suggestions?

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CFMX 61 to CFMX 70 migration

[Dave Merrill]

Any comments on migrating from CFMX 61 to CFMX 70, issues beyond what's
listed in cfmx7_migrating.pdf?

Would you consider the 70 release stable enough for production use? Any
noticeable change in performance?

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Re: xml to struct help

[Charlie Griefer]

without really knowing the specs, seems as if you'd want an array
within the find_business.generic struct/key.

find_business.generic = arrayNew(1);
find_business.generic[1] = "ABC Co.";
find_business.generic[2] = "XYZ Co.";
.
etc


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:55:04 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against the 
> wall over this one.
> 
> Given this XML snippet:
> 
> ABC Co.
> 
> 
> This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and 
> "maxRows" attributes.
> find_business = structNew();
> find_business.generic = "2.0";
> find_business.maxRows = "10";
> 
> What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do 
> find_business.name = "ABC
> Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Doug James
> Hollings Cancer Center
> 
> 

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Re: xml to struct help

[Charlie Griefer]

couldn't (shouldn't?) you just do an XMLParse() on the XML document in
question tho?


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:01:16 -0500, Charlie Griefer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> without really knowing the specs, seems as if you'd want an array
> within the find_business.generic struct/key.
> 
> find_business.generic = arrayNew(1);
> find_business.generic[1] = "ABC Co.";
> find_business.generic[2] = "XYZ Co.";
> 
> etc
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:55:04 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against the 
> > wall over this one.
> >
> > Given this XML snippet:
> > 
> > ABC Co.
> > 
> >
> > This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and 
> > "maxRows" attributes.
> > find_business = structNew();
> > find_business.generic = "2.0";
> > find_business.maxRows = "10";
> >
> > What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do 
> > find_business.name = "ABC
> > Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Doug James
> > Hollings Cancer Center
> >
> > 

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RE: CFMX 61 to CFMX 70 migration

[Adkins, Randy]

I know quite a few people using CFMX 7 in their production environments.
 

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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX 61 to CFMX 70 migration

Any comments on migrating from CFMX 61 to CFMX 70, issues beyond what's
listed in cfmx7_migrating.pdf?

Would you consider the 70 release stable enough for production use? Any
noticeable change in performance?

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RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

[Matthew Small]

Thank you for responding.  I notice that this involves java calls - is there
no native CF function that does this?

Thank you,
Matthew Small

-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

How about this - found it the other day while trying to solve a similair
thing where verity wasn't indexing TM signs so I needed to convert them
to normal HTML codes.




























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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 February 2005 13:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

Hi,

One of my users pastes text into a form from his Mac word
processor.  Quite frequently, the document contains "smart quotes" -
curly
quotes that go on each end of a string.  Apparently, some PCs have
issues
displaying these characters, so I need to know how to convert them to
straight normal quotes.

I am under the impression that these are Unicode characters
as
opposed to ASCII characters.  As such, I am unsure how to do a replace
in CF
- MX 6.1. I've looked in the livedocs but I don't see a function that
works
like chr() for Unicode.  What am I missing here?

 

Thank you,

Matthew Small







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RE: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

[Dave Merrill]

The fastest js-based method that I'm aware of is to have cf generate the
html for each set of options as js variables, then just set
select2.innerHTML to the one you want to use. Particularly efficient if
there are a bunch of options to set, since you don't have to iterate through
each one every time.

I know that the innerHTML attribute isn't html401 spec, but my understanding
(http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_html.html) is that it is supported in the
major browsers, and I've verified that it does work w current versions of
IE, Firefox and Opera on win2k. Caveat emptor though: This particular code
was built for IE specifically, and I haven't done any cross-browser testing
of it.

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RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

[Martin Parry]

Sorry, that's all I have - maybe someone else has another solution but
this is extremely quick and "it works" :)

Martin Parry
Macromedia Certified Developer
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-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 February 2005 14:03
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

Thank you for responding.  I notice that this involves java calls - is
there
no native CF function that does this?

Thank you,
Matthew Small

-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

How about this - found it the other day while trying to solve a similair
thing where verity wasn't indexing TM signs so I needed to convert them
to normal HTML codes.




























Martin Parry
Macromedia Certified Developer
http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk


-Original Message-
From: Matthew Small [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 10 February 2005 13:24
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

Hi,

One of my users pastes text into a form from his Mac word
processor.  Quite frequently, the document contains "smart quotes" -
curly
quotes that go on each end of a string.  Apparently, some PCs have
issues
displaying these characters, so I need to know how to convert them to
straight normal quotes.

I am under the impression that these are Unicode characters
as
opposed to ASCII characters.  As such, I am unsure how to do a replace
in CF
- MX 6.1. I've looked in the livedocs but I don't see a function that
works
like chr() for Unicode.  What am I missing here?

 

Thank you,

Matthew Small









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Re: CFMX 61 to CFMX 70 migration

[Andy Allan]

Remember that CFMX7 is built on CFMX6.1 + Updater 1 + other stuff

It's as stable if not more so than CFMX6.1


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:57:00 -0500, Dave Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Any comments on migrating from CFMX 61 to CFMX 70, issues beyond what's
> listed in cfmx7_migrating.pdf?
> 
> Would you consider the 70 release stable enough for production use? Any
> noticeable change in performance?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dave Merrill
> 
> 

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RE: Using Application.cfc has decreased performance

[Micha Schopman]

I sometimes experienced CFC's with practically the exact amount of code,
being slower than cfmodule calls (which should be slower). It is hard to
say what is causing such behavior, and often depends on the type of
constructions. :)

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Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 13:29
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Subject: Using Application.cfc has decreased performance

Hi All,

I have replaced Application.cfm in an old application of mine with
Application.cfc.

The events set there are OnRequestStart (checking to see if user has
logged in and initializes variables in the request scope) and onRequest
(that cfincludes a page according to a URL parameter).

I noticed a performance delay on the new version of the application.
some pages need almost twice the time to load than they did before.

Has anyone observed anything similar?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query columns

[Raymond Camden]

You can use CAST in QofQ now. So, you could use QofQ to recard the
column to varchar. You could also simply make a duplicate of your ID
column when performing your select and cast that as varchar. Or do
queryAddColumn and put the data there.


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> I have today posted a feature request on MM's website.. If anyone else
> agrees with it and would us it please also request it.
> 
> Due to changes in the way CF7 handles casting on queries, I can no
> longer populate a string value into an integer column using  QuerySetCell()>. Assuming I had a unique_id of 21014 I may want to
> prefix this with PID_ - I now get a manky error - Invalid data PID_21014
> for CFSQLTYPE CF_SQL_INTEGER.
> 
> A  would
> be a real bonus as I'm now needing to kludge around this.
> 
> Post it on... http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
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Getting MX help for CF Studio 5?

[Gaulin, Mark]

Hi 
Anybody know how I can update the built-in help in CF Studio to MX? I thought 
there was a download for that but I can't find it.
Thanks
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RE: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

[Martin Parry]

Sorry, that's all I have - maybe someone else has another solution but
this is extremely quick and "it works" :)

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Thank you for responding.  I notice that this involves java calls - is
there
no native CF function that does this?

Thank you,
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Re: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

[Adam Haskell]

THis is slightly how one of the custome tags on dev exchange works if
I recall. One caution though, and this may or may not be a concern,
this method is bandwidth intense, as opposed to other methods.
Normally I wouldn't make a point of it except in my work place
bandwidth is a BIG concern and this method is a bad solution for us,
for most it is perfectably acceptable. At my old workplace we put each
select in a hidden div, and unhid the proper div upon selection,
worked on all browsers like a champ, ate up bandwidth though :)

Adam H


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:11:30 -0500, Dave Merrill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The fastest js-based method that I'm aware of is to have cf generate the
> html for each set of options as js variables, then just set
> select2.innerHTML to the one you want to use. Particularly efficient if
> there are a bunch of options to set, since you don't have to iterate through
> each one every time.
> 
> I know that the innerHTML attribute isn't html401 spec, but my understanding
> (http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_html.html) is that it is supported in the
> major browsers, and I've verified that it does work w current versions of
> IE, Firefox and Opera on win2k. Caveat emptor though: This particular code
> was built for IE specifically, and I haven't done any cross-browser testing
> of it.
> 
> Dave Merrill
> 
> 

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RE: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

[Micha Schopman]

innerHTML should be (in a perfect world) replaced by the dom methods,
but is still the fastest method to draw element on the browser canvas.

It has it's opposites however when drawing IMG elements, or any element
containing images. You might cause a denial of service attack on the
browser, but overall it is still the best method in terms of
performance.

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-Original Message-
From: Dave Merrill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 15:12
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: how to display data in two select boxes where the second
one's display depends on the first one

The fastest js-based method that I'm aware of is to have cf generate the
html for each set of options as js variables, then just set
select2.innerHTML to the one you want to use. Particularly efficient if
there are a bunch of options to set, since you don't have to iterate
through
each one every time.

I know that the innerHTML attribute isn't html401 spec, but my
understanding
(http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_html.html) is that it is supported in
the
major browsers, and I've verified that it does work w current versions
of
IE, Firefox and Opera on win2k. Caveat emptor though: This particular
code
was built for IE specifically, and I haven't done any cross-browser
testing
of it.

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RE: xml to struct help

[Micha Schopman]

If you see name as a childNode, you might do this





And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
and value as strucktvalue.

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-Original Message-
From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 14:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: xml to struct help

Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against
the wall over this one.

Given this XML snippet:

ABC Co.


This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and
"maxRows" attributes.
find_business = structNew();
find_business.generic = "2.0";
find_business.maxRows = "10";

What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do
find_business.name = "ABC 
Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.

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RE: Using Application.cfc has decreased performance

[Micha Schopman]

Followup, I don't find it odd that performance has degraded. Remember
that application.cfc get's called on each request made, and on each
request it has to evaluate both functions.

So where it used to call 

Application.cfm -> index.cfm

It does, on each request

Application.cfm -> onRequestStart -> onRequest -> index.cfm




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Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 15:13
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Subject: RE: Using Application.cfc has decreased performance

I sometimes experienced CFC's with practically the exact amount of code,
being slower than cfmodule calls (which should be slower). It is hard to
say what is causing such behavior, and often depends on the type of
constructions. :)

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-Original Message-
From: Stavros Tekes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 13:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Using Application.cfc has decreased performance

Hi All,

I have replaced Application.cfm in an old application of mine with
Application.cfc.

The events set there are OnRequestStart (checking to see if user has
logged in and initializes variables in the request scope) and onRequest
(that cfincludes a page according to a URL parameter).

I noticed a performance delay on the new version of the application.
some pages need almost twice the time to load than they did before.

Has anyone observed anything similar?

Thanks in advance,

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Re: CFSlider on Firefox

[Jerry Barnes]

Problem solved.  

I installed JRE 1.4.0_01 and it seems to be running fine.  

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SQL Cube accessing via CF

[Kristen Winsor]

Does anyone work w/ SQL cubes and if yes, how are you accessing the cube via 
cf. I found a vendor which does allow this but it is $, and was just 
wondering if anyone else out there has an alternative.

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Re: Capturing Mac's SmartQuotes

[Ben Doom]

Since a Uinicode char is just two bytes, if you can find out what two 
byte values they represent, you can still replace them.

Assuming they're 142 and 143:
replace(text, chr(142)&chr(143), '"', 'all');

Try just using asc() to get the values.

HTH

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Matthew Small wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> One of my users pastes text into a form from his Mac word
> processor.  Quite frequently, the document contains "smart quotes" - curly
> quotes that go on each end of a string.  Apparently, some PCs have issues
> displaying these characters, so I need to know how to convert them to
> straight normal quotes.
> 
> I am under the impression that these are Unicode characters as
> opposed to ASCII characters.  As such, I am unsure how to do a replace in CF
> - MX 6.1. I've looked in the livedocs but I don't see a function that works
> like chr() for Unicode.  What am I missing here?
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Matthew Small
> 
> 
> 
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Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Rick Faircloth]

Hi, All..

Using CF 4.5 (Don't even start...if the horse you own plows the field just
fine, keep using him...)
Windows 2000 Server

I'm considering building my own CF-Based Backup system
to allow my clients to backup their data to my server...via CFFTP, I
guess...at this point.

I'm not totally happy with the existing FTP solutions on the market,
such as Serv-U in combination with FTP Voyager...they're ok, but are
lacking some features I would really like to have, such as emailing me and
my client with a stats report when a backup job is completed,
failure/success, etc.,
and Serv-U/FTP Voyager lacks this capability.

With a CF-based system, I can at least do that...

But are there other inabilities that CF-based solutions will have that would
make such an endeavor fruitless?  (At this point, if new editions of CF make
such an application possible, we'll discuss a new horse...)

For example, does CF provide the capability to compare documents and
back up only those that have changes made to them?  (Is this back-up
function
typically a result of comparing "date-modified" info or is actual data
content
of files compared in typical backup systems?)

Another question...can CF work with Explicit SSL encryption or some other
type of secure data transmission?  Can it encrypt files that would be stored
on my server so that if someone who might hack my server got the info, they
couldn't read it?

Any other thoughts are welcomed on this issue...

Matt...I know that you use Serv-U and FTP Voyager for this type of stuff...
any reason why you haven't built a CF application to do this?

Thanks for any and all input...

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RE: SQL Cube accessing via CF

[Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)]

We use Cubes but not with CF as of yet...we haven't really had a need with
Microsoft Reporting Services...



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Subject: SQL Cube accessing via CF

Does anyone work w/ SQL cubes and if yes, how are you accessing the cube via
cf. I found a vendor which does allow this but it is $, and was just
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Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Adam Haskell]

I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with
CFoutputs everywhere...
For example:

 #sel_value#">
#sel_text#


 

I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do
it that way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just
throwing a cfoutput at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming
they are ussing something other than  to control white
space.

One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would
parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.

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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Justin D. Scott]

> I'm considering building my own CF-Based Backup
> system to allow my clients to backup their data
> to my server...via CFFTP, I guess...at this point.

Personally I think you would be better off using a true FTP server on your
end for receiving the files.  Using CFFTP means your server will need to go
out to an FTP server on the CLIENT side to get the backup files.  That
introduces a whole new set of problems with corporate firewalls, NAT
routing, or whatever the client has in place.  If you stick with scheduled
client software on their end it will save you a lot of trouble.

As for e-mailing results, you can have a process that runs every X minutes
and checks for changes to their directory that would trigger an e-mail alert
of some kind.


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CF and SQL Server Reporting Services

[Gavin Brook]

Hi All,

  Does anyone have any experience of integrating CFMX and SQL Server
Reporting services. I've managed to cobble something together, but I not
happy with the lack of security (from the reporting services front)

  Has anyone managed to achieve a happy medium or have any advice?

Many thanks,

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Re: Using Application.cfc has decreased performance

[Dave Carabetta]

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 08:28:36 -0400, Stavros Tekes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I have replaced Application.cfm in an old application of mine with 
> Application.cfc.
> 
> The events set there are OnRequestStart (checking to see if user has logged 
> in and initializes variables in the request scope) and onRequest (that 
> cfincludes a page according to a URL parameter).
> 
> I noticed a performance delay on the new version of the application. some 
> pages need almost twice the time to load than they did before.
> 
> Has anyone observed anything similar?
> 

Not sure if this is your problem, but do you have debugging turned on
with the "report execution times" option selected? CFCs with that
option turned on in general are dog slow because each method call has
to register itself with the debugging service. CFMs don't have this
issue. If so, try turning that option off and see what happens. We
have a very CFC-heavy application that is noticeably sluggish with the
option on, but very responsive once it's off.

Regards,
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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Charlie Griefer]

i see  as being similar to starting a car, and 
as similar to shutting it off.

I wouldn't stop/start the car at every corner (or every
streetlight/stopsign) that I came to.

Altho...I also wouldn't leave it running overnight just so I wouldn't
have to start it in the morning (trying to keep running with the same
analogy as it relates to a lone  at the top of the page and
a lone  at the bottom).

for your specific example, i would certainly suggest a single set of
 surrounding the entire .


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:17:39 -0500, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with
> CFoutputs everywhere...
> For example:
> 
>  #sel_value#">
> #sel_text#
> 
> 
> 
> I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
> seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do
> it that way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just
> throwing a cfoutput at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming
> they are ussing something other than  to control white
> space.
> 
> One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would
> parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.
> 
> Adam H
> 
> 

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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Justin D. Scott]

> One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he
> thought it would parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.

Back in CF5, I believe this was the case.  Granted the performance gain
would not be noticeable on a block this small, but if you have large blocks
of text the gains start to add up.  Spread that out over a few hundred files
and millions of requests per day and your server would see the difference.

With CFMX it's not an issue, but some people, myself, still minimize the
text within CFOUTPUT by habit.  CF5 also had some slight performance gains
if you converted many (> 3-4) CFSET statements to CFSCRIPT.  Again, in CFMX
that is not an issue as far as I know.

In any case, it's just a matter of coding style at this point.


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SQL Stored Proc output

[Eric Creese]

>From a web page I allow users to create a text file via a stored proc(below). 
>However the problem I am having is the txt file that the stored proc creates 
>is huge filled with spaces and carriage returns between each record output.

CREATE PROCEDURE testpullfile  AS

DECLARE 
@cmdvarchar(300)
 
SELECT email
INTO tmp_emaillist_html
FROM thetable
WHERE Lookup001Id =2; 

SELECT @cmd = 'osql -U"blah" -P"blah" -S"superserver" -Q"SELECT email FROM 
tmp_emaillist_html" -o"g:\temp\sqlTest.txt"'

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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Rick Faircloth]

Yeah...I figured the client side would be a problem...

>As for e-mailing results, you can have a process that runs every X minutes
>and checks for changes to their directory that would trigger an e-mail
alert
>of some kind.

You're referring to their directory on my server, correct?

Thanks for the reply...

Rick

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental
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> I'm considering building my own CF-Based Backup
> system to allow my clients to backup their data
> to my server...via CFFTP, I guess...at this point.

Personally I think you would be better off using a true FTP server on your
end for receiving the files.  Using CFFTP means your server will need to go
out to an FTP server on the CLIENT side to get the backup files.  That
introduces a whole new set of problems with corporate firewalls, NAT
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As for e-mailing results, you can have a process that runs every X minutes
and checks for changes to their directory that would trigger an e-mail alert
of some kind.


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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Micha Schopman]

It is because CFMX compiles to Java bytecode, and executes that. The
result bytecode is no different if you use cfscript or cfset :)

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if you converted many (> 3-4) CFSET statements to CFSCRIPT.  Again, in
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CFMX 7 alongside 6.1 on JRun

[Ken Dunnington]

Has anybody tried installing MX 7 next to 6 using JRun on OS X? This
is just for development, and I'm about to try it right now, just
wanted to see if anybody else had already done so. I got 7 installed
on my home box quite easily last night although I removed 6.1 first.
I'm going to set up another server in JRun, install 7, migrate my 6
settings, then modify my httpd.conf to use the new jrpp proxy for the
7 server. Since I use this machine for development work on a 6.1
production server, I need to keep 6.1 around, but I want to have 7 up
so I can impress the higher-ups into upgrading. :)

Incidentally, I did the connection to Apache by hand last night, so I
didn't even check to see if it's any easier in this release - I
suppose it's technically in the realm of JRun so it hasn't changed
any.

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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Justin D. Scott]

> You're referring to their directory on my server,
> correct?

Yes.  For the backup itself, the easiest way may be to write a script/batch
file that can be scheduled on the client side that would use tools included
with the OS to create the backup file then FTP it to your server.  I do
something similar with my workstation here to make backup copies of my
accounting databases to get backups up to two of my servers.  If you're
planning to make this your primary business, you might consider having
custom backup/transfer software written for the client side.

There is a company here in town that does basically what you're talking
about call RemoteData.  They have more information about their processes at
www.remotedata.net.


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Re: COM Object Method Not Found (Cybersource)

[Joseph Potenza]

Dain,
   I posted this to the Macromedia forum but forgot to post herei am
already doing all that...

Here's a link to the test page so you can see the errors. Just submit the
form with the already filled in data and you'll see the processit
describes what it's doing and does CFDUMPs for each object

http://www.weebloom.com/csource.cfm

I already define all the COM objects and pass them in to RunTransaction().

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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

But I find cfscript easier to read and more flexible in some ways, so
I'm more likely to use it for several successive sets, or for some
loops.

I never really *was* after gains in performance... cfscript just
seemed like a nice way to write code, and overall less typing.

J


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 16:33:53 +0100, Micha Schopman
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is because CFMX compiles to Java bytecode, and executes that. The
> result bytecode is no different if you use cfscript or cfset :)
> 
> Micha Schopman
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> 
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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Aaron Rouse]

Same here, I use it for sets and if/elses a lot, sometimes looping and
a switch/case here and there.  All because I find it easier to read
than anything else.

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:50:10 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
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> But I find cfscript easier to read and more flexible in some ways, so
> I'm more likely to use it for several successive sets, or for some
> loops.
> 
> I never really *was* after gains in performance... cfscript just
> seemed like a nice way to write code, and overall less typing.
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Re: how to display data in two select boxes where the second one's display depends on the first one

[Rick Mason]

The most bulletproof way to do this is to use QForms client server
gateway available here: http://www.pengoworks.com/workshop/js/gateway/

I have found that it is a lot better than the old twoselectsrelated
tag.  However if you're using CF-7 I believe you can create it
directly.


Rick Mason





On Wed, 9 Feb 2005 13:26:39 -0800 (PST), Discover Antartica
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to display the data in two select boxes.  For example, I want to 
> display two select boxes. In the first one I want to display the list of the 
> category of employees (like full time, part time, contract, etc)
> 
> On the second select list i want to display the list of employees in that 
> category. For example, if the user clicks on the part time then the second 
> box should display all part time employees only.
> 
> Is there a easy way for this?
> 
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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Rick Faircloth]

I don't plan to make this my primary business, but I do see some
gold in them thar hills!  :o)

I know Windows 2000 and XP have built-in backup software
(not initially installed on the Home edition, but available on the CD),
but I guess the client would have to use third-party software to accomplish
the FTP transfer, right?  Unless MS is starting to include that capability
in XP...?

If the client has to install FTP software, them I guess I'm back to where I
have
been...experimenting with Serv-U and FTP Voyager.  It makes a decent
solution,
especially since Serv-U is offering from 3-5 free Voyagers with each Serv-U
purchase
during February.

And...if I can run a scheduled task with CF to notify of successful backups
and compare previous numbers of files on the server to current files, along
with
other possible information, then I guess that would be sufficient.  I just
don't
want to have to review logs every day for every client to see if backups
were successful...

As far as RemoteData goes, I've already been using IBackup.com, and they've
got
a great solution...email and all.  No glitches from setup to
execution...good prices, too...
5 GB of storage starting at $9.95 a month for 5 GB...

Any other thoughts or suggestions,  Justin?  Anyone?

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Justin D. Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental
Back-ups?


> You're referring to their directory on my server,
> correct?

Yes.  For the backup itself, the easiest way may be to write a script/batch
file that can be scheduled on the client side that would use tools included
with the OS to create the backup file then FTP it to your server.  I do
something similar with my workstation here to make backup copies of my
accounting databases to get backups up to two of my servers.  If you're
planning to make this your primary business, you might consider having
custom backup/transfer software written for the client side.

There is a company here in town that does basically what you're talking
about call RemoteData.  They have more information about their processes at
www.remotedata.net.


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Re: Problems Querying Text File Datasource Using ODBC/Coldfusion MX

[cf coder]

Hi Jared,

Thanks for responding (I work with cfcoder btw).  You're right; we don't have 
to do it this way, but it fitted in nicely with some other stuff, and being 
stubborn and not liking to admit defeat, we'd been wanting to get this to work. 
 In the end though, even if it does work we'll still need to employ other 
methods as the driver only supports SELECT & INSERT, ie no support for UPDATE & 
DELETE, which we obviously need on a user admin page. As for your second point, 
yes, the file is being created by a php web app that we have no control over, 
and even if we knew any php, is encrypted anyway!  Mind you, we have ordered a 
text book! ;o)

For the time being, we've used CFFILE to copy and rename the file, we'll do our 
work on it, and then use it to copy over the original.  Clunky I know - the 
original app developers have advised that a SQL backed version will be out 
hopefully this year, so with a bit of luck this is only a stop gap until then.

Regards,
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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Justin D. Scott]

> ...I guess the client would have to use third-party
> software to accomplish the FTP transfer, right?
> Unless MS is starting to include that capability
> in XP...?

There is a command line FTP utility in 2000 and XP that you can direct
commands to using an input redirector and a text file.  With a batch file
and Windows scheduler you can automate the FTP transfers.

Generating the list of files to be uploaded would be the hairy part, but
someone good at batch programming could probably whip up a routine to build
the file list and modify it in a way that the FTP client can use.  If you
were to give the client something like FTP Voyager you may be able to script
that in some way as well.  I know there are scriptable FTP clients out
there.


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Re: xml to struct help

[Doug James]

Thanks for the suggestion.

Unfortunately, it did not work. This is for a web service and  
is a complex type 
which equates to a struct.

Calling all web service experts: please offer suggestions.

Doug

Micha Schopman wrote:
> If you see name as a childNode, you might do this
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
> and value as strucktvalue.
> 
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> 
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> -Original Message-
> From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 14:55
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: xml to struct help
> 
> Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against
> the wall over this one.
> 
> Given this XML snippet:
> 
>   ABC Co.
> 
> 
> This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and
> "maxRows" attributes.
> find_business = structNew();
> find_business.generic = "2.0";
> find_business.maxRows = "10";
> 
> What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do
> find_business.name = "ABC 
> Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Doug James
> Hollings Cancer Center
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Bob Haroche]

> Any other thoughts or suggestions,  Justin?  Anyone?

I'm late to this thread but thought I'd share a recent solution, not CF
based, I've found for remote backups:

SyncBack:

http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbp-features.html

$15 windows shareware (also a freeware version).  It allows you to designate
any number of directories or entire drives (including networked drives) and
synchronize them to another location, including an ftp server. You can do a
true synch, or a mirroring one way or the other. You can then set it to run
automatically using Windows task scheduler.

It's not a true backup in that you're not compressing data into one large
file, but it does the sync'ing and mirroring very well.

I'm using it for a client to upload her 1 gig of data to an ftp server,
using Hurricane Electric hosting(unix/apache, no CFML) as they offer 5 gigs
of storage for $25/mo (www.he.net).  Since she doesn't change gigabytes of
data each day, after the initial mirroring, each day's change involves only
minimal data changes to upload/mirror.

For the client to view the ftp backup data, she's not using an ftp program
per se but instead using WebDrive, which lets her view any ftp site just
like a networked drive in My Computer or Windows Explorer:

http://www.southrivertech.com/index.php?pg=./products/webdrive/index

(a little pricey at $50/license but it makes the whole off-site backup
system very easy for the client).



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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Rick Faircloth]

FTP Voyager has everything built-in that I would need...scheduling,
batch-processing..
all except the email part.

So with a CF scheduled "FTP Monitor", looks like that would be a good
solution...

Rick

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:27 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental
Back-ups?


> ...I guess the client would have to use third-party
> software to accomplish the FTP transfer, right?
> Unless MS is starting to include that capability
> in XP...?

There is a command line FTP utility in 2000 and XP that you can direct
commands to using an input redirector and a text file.  With a batch file
and Windows scheduler you can automate the FTP transfers.

Generating the list of files to be uploaded would be the hairy part, but
someone good at batch programming could probably whip up a routine to build
the file list and modify it in a way that the FTP client can use.  If you
were to give the client something like FTP Voyager you may be able to script
that in some way as well.  I know there are scriptable FTP clients out
there.


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RE: Homesite+ Tag Updates for CFMX7

[RADEMAKERS Tanguy]

http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/downloads/

7mb zip file 

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>Does anyone know where the Homesite+ tag updates for CFMX7 are?
>
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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Adam Haskell]

Yeah I've commented about this other places...cfscript is just mor
comfortable for me...besides if I have a block of code dealing with
structures why would i want to constantly use cfset just to call
structinsert().

Adam H


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:00:07 -0600, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Same here, I use it for sets and if/elses a lot, sometimes looping and
> a switch/case here and there.  All because I find it easier to read
> than anything else.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:50:10 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But I find cfscript easier to read and more flexible in some ways, so
> > I'm more likely to use it for several successive sets, or for some
> > loops.
> >
> > I never really *was* after gains in performance... cfscript just
> > seemed like a nice way to write code, and overall less typing.
> >
> 
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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Adam Haskell]

I agree top and bottum cf outputs could be as equally as silly. My
point was more to the fact I would rather that to cfoutputs littered
everywhere. I also don;t see how that could compile any
faster...noticable or not.


Adam H


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:26:18 -0500, Charlie Griefer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i see  as being similar to starting a car, and 
> as similar to shutting it off.
> 
> I wouldn't stop/start the car at every corner (or every
> streetlight/stopsign) that I came to.
> 
> Altho...I also wouldn't leave it running overnight just so I wouldn't
> have to start it in the morning (trying to keep running with the same
> analogy as it relates to a lone  at the top of the page and
> a lone  at the bottom).
> 
> for your specific example, i would certainly suggest a single set of
>  surrounding the entire .
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:17:39 -0500, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with
> > CFoutputs everywhere...
> > For example:
> >
> >  #sel_value#">
> > #sel_text#
> > 
> > 
> >
> > I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
> > seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do
> > it that way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just
> > throwing a cfoutput at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming
> > they are ussing something other than  to control white
> > space.
> >
> > One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would
> > parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.
> >
> > Adam H
> >
> >
> 
> 

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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Mike Nimer]

I hate it when I see this, makes it hard to read and hard to maintain. 

Technically cfoutput is a tag, and having CF go in/out of a ton of tags is
slower then going in/out of only a few. Although, granted we are talking
hundreds of a ms, so we'll never notice it. In older versions cf had to
parse everything inside the cfoutput tags, at runtime, now the compiler
takes care of that.

I would say it's really a toss up, performance wise. But it's a lot easier
to read and maintain if there are fewer cfoutput tags around everything. At
least I think so.

--nimer


-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:18 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with CFoutputs
everywhere...
For example:

 #sel_value#">
#sel_text#


 

I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do it that
way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just throwing a cfoutput
at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming they are ussing something
other than  to control white space.

One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would parse
quiker, in CF5...I disagree.

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RE: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query c olumns

[Mike Nimer]

There is a cast() function you can use in a QofQ. Just run another QofQ to
cast the column and then run your querySetCell() functions as you wish.

--nimer 

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 8:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query c
olumns

Ah, this just proves that we should all be careful what we wish for in the
first place. The query object in CF6 can store anything you want with no
complaint - I even store structs in query cells (using the query as a 2D
array of structs with named columns). We asked for control over typing in
queries and this is what we got. Oops.

It sounds like it's time to write that QueryCastColumn UDF after all...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Parry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 10 February 2005 8:17
To: CF-Talk
Subject: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query columns

I have today posted a feature request on MM's website.. If anyone else
agrees with it and would us it please also request it.

Due to changes in the way CF7 handles casting on queries, I can no longer
populate a string value into an integer column using . Assuming I had a unique_id of 21014 I may want to
prefix this with PID_ - I now get a manky error - Invalid data PID_21014 for
CFSQLTYPE CF_SQL_INTEGER.

A  would be
a real bonus as I'm now needing to kludge around this. 

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RE: RDS Sandboxing on MX 7?

[Calvin Ward]

True, although I'm actually referring to the instances :)

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:07 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: RDS Sandboxing on MX 7?

Agreed, RDS would still expose the whole filesystem to everyone. This is one
of the reasons we don't use it except on personal dev boxes.

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, 8 February 2005 11:03 
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: RDS Sandboxing on MX 7?

The datasources would be segregated, but by default I don't think the file
structure would be.

Also I believe in the default usage of instances, the jvm settings are
shared.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 9:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: RDS Sandboxing on MX 7?

My understanding is that instances are completely separate. They are
essentially separate CF servers, as they run in separate JVMs, with separate
datasources, separate code etc.

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RE: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query columns

[Figy, Kam]

In this case why not just CAST the integer column to a varchar in the
original (from-DB) query? Seems a lot easier than getting MM to add a
new function :)

Kam 

-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 6:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: New CF7 feature request - please support it - Casting query
columns

You can use CAST in QofQ now. So, you could use QofQ to recard the
column to varchar. You could also simply make a duplicate of your ID
column when performing your select and cast that as varchar. Or do
queryAddColumn and put the data there.


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:17:26 -, Martin Parry
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have today posted a feature request on MM's website.. If anyone else

> agrees with it and would us it please also request it.
> 
> Due to changes in the way CF7 handles casting on queries, I can no 
> longer populate a string value into an integer column using  QuerySetCell()>. Assuming I had a unique_id of 21014 I may want to

> prefix this with PID_ - I now get a manky error - Invalid data 
> PID_21014 for CFSQLTYPE CF_SQL_INTEGER.
> 
> A  
> would be a real bonus as I'm now needing to kludge around this.
> 
> Post it on... http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/
> 
> Martin Parry
> Macromedia Certified Developer
> http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk
> 
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RE: Outsourced support to India?

[Steven Erat]

> I've heard that as of CF7, Macromedia has outsourced all support and 
> engineering to India.
> 
> Any truth to this rumor?
> 
>   - Rick


Support?  Um... No.

Although you might also want to take a look at 
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/hr/india/

-Steven Erat in Boston  (who sits among roughly 15 of my server support
peers, not to mention those who are distributed across the US from
California to Minnesota to West Virginia while working remote, and there's
tools support in San Fran, Texas, etc...)

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Re: Outsourced support to India?

[Rick Root]

I'm a little bothered by the support incident I'm currently working 
on... the telephone number I have to call my support engineer (location 
unknown) leaves a distinctly unprofessional taste in my mouth.

I dial his number

"You have reached the Meredian Personal Call Director.  To locate the 
party you are calling, press 1 now."

(1)

"Please wait..."
"Please wait..."
"Please wait..."
"For more options, press *..."
"Please wait..."
"Please wait..."
"Please wait..."
"Connected..."
"37689.. is not available.  Press 1 to page this person..."

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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Calvin Ward]

I prefer cfscript when possible, because it helps one think about separating
logic from presentation. And if you can move it into cfscript, then you can
consider turning it into a function

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:57 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

Yeah I've commented about this other places...cfscript is just mor
comfortable for me...besides if I have a block of code dealing with
structures why would i want to constantly use cfset just to call
structinsert().

Adam H


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:00:07 -0600, Aaron Rouse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Same here, I use it for sets and if/elses a lot, sometimes looping and
> a switch/case here and there.  All because I find it easier to read
> than anything else.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 09:50:10 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > But I find cfscript easier to read and more flexible in some ways, so
> > I'm more likely to use it for several successive sets, or for some
> > loops.
> >
> > I never really *was* after gains in performance... cfscript just
> > seemed like a nice way to write code, and overall less typing.
> >
> 
> 



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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Calvin Ward]

Why do you consider top and bottom cfoutputs a 'silly' thing?

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:59 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

I agree top and bottum cf outputs could be as equally as silly. My
point was more to the fact I would rather that to cfoutputs littered
everywhere. I also don;t see how that could compile any
faster...noticable or not.


Adam H


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:26:18 -0500, Charlie Griefer
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> i see  as being similar to starting a car, and 
> as similar to shutting it off.
> 
> I wouldn't stop/start the car at every corner (or every
> streetlight/stopsign) that I came to.
> 
> Altho...I also wouldn't leave it running overnight just so I wouldn't
> have to start it in the morning (trying to keep running with the same
> analogy as it relates to a lone  at the top of the page and
> a lone  at the bottom).
> 
> for your specific example, i would certainly suggest a single set of
>  surrounding the entire .
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:17:39 -0500, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> > I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with
> > CFoutputs everywhere...
> > For example:
> >
> >  #sel_value#">
> > #sel_text#
> > 
> > 
> >
> > I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
> > seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do
> > it that way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just
> > throwing a cfoutput at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming
> > they are ussing something other than  to control white
> > space.
> >
> > One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would
> > parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.
> >
> > Adam H
> >
> >
> 
> 



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Re: Problems Querying Text File Datasource Using ODBC/Coldfusion MX

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

We do what we have to do, no?

However, I think it might be advisable to use CFHTTP to pull the data
into a query... then you can dump it off into your own table in a real
DB. Use a cron template to refresh the data at intervals, and you have
control over managing existing data and updates from their side, plus
being able to easily update the data from your side.

Just a thought.

J


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:22:37 -0400, cf coder
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Jared,
> 
> Thanks for responding (I work with cfcoder btw).  You're right; we don't have 
> to do it this way, but it fitted in nicely with some other stuff, and being 
> stubborn and not liking to admit defeat, we'd been wanting to get this to 
> work.  In the end though, even if it does work we'll still need to employ 
> other methods as the driver only supports SELECT & INSERT, ie no support for 
> UPDATE & DELETE, which we obviously need on a user admin page. As for your 
> second point, yes, the file is being created by a php web app that we have no 
> control over, and even if we knew any php, is encrypted anyway!  Mind you, we 
> have ordered a text book! ;o)
> 
> For the time being, we've used CFFILE to copy and rename the file, we'll do 
> our work on it, and then use it to copy over the original.  Clunky I know - 
> the original app developers have advised that a SQL backed version will be 
> out hopefully this year, so with a bit of luck this is only a stop gap until 
> then.
> 
> Regards,
> Mat
> 
> 

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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Calvin Ward]

If you're looking to sell this solution, then you you should seriously
consider moving past 4.5.

Reason 1) It's probably hard to find
Reason 2) It's no longer supported by MM at all

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

Hi, All..

Using CF 4.5 (Don't even start...if the horse you own plows the field just
fine, keep using him...)
Windows 2000 Server

I'm considering building my own CF-Based Backup system
to allow my clients to backup their data to my server...via CFFTP, I
guess...at this point.

I'm not totally happy with the existing FTP solutions on the market,
such as Serv-U in combination with FTP Voyager...they're ok, but are
lacking some features I would really like to have, such as emailing me and
my client with a stats report when a backup job is completed,
failure/success, etc.,
and Serv-U/FTP Voyager lacks this capability.

With a CF-based system, I can at least do that...

But are there other inabilities that CF-based solutions will have that would
make such an endeavor fruitless?  (At this point, if new editions of CF make
such an application possible, we'll discuss a new horse...)

For example, does CF provide the capability to compare documents and
back up only those that have changes made to them?  (Is this back-up
function
typically a result of comparing "date-modified" info or is actual data
content
of files compared in typical backup systems?)

Another question...can CF work with Explicit SSL encryption or some other
type of secure data transmission?  Can it encrypt files that would be stored
on my server so that if someone who might hack my server got the info, they
couldn't read it?

Any other thoughts are welcomed on this issue...

Matt...I know that you use Serv-U and FTP Voyager for this type of stuff...
any reason why you haven't built a CF application to do this?

Thanks for any and all input...

Rick



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Re: Homesite+ Tag Updates for CFMX7

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

SWEET!

Thank you...

J


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 17:48:55 +0100, RADEMAKERS Tanguy
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/downloads/
> 
> 7mb zip file
> 
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:36 PM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: Homesite+ Tag Updates for CFMX7
> >
> >Does anyone know where the Homesite+ tag updates for CFMX7 are?
> >
> >Thanks!
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: xml to struct help

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

XML isn't just a straigh-up struct... if you're going to reproduce an
expected XML snippet into a well-formed XML document by hand, you need
to recreate the whole thing or it just... won't work.

Check out this example...
http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/tmp/xmlexample.cfm

If you click the title of the cfdump, it will rotate between simle,
extended, and collapsed views... check out the extend version of the
view in the bottom-left table cell.

xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren contains a collection of structs that
represent url objects.

XML isn't just a struct, or an array... if you're talking XML and it
needs to be validated, you're going to have to either be very VERY
careful about how you create your structured object OR you should just
write it out to a file, read it in via cffile, and xmlParse() it into
a native XML binary object.

Just remember, though... xmlSearch and xmlTransform both have rules,
and those rules follow XML standards, and the format of the document
IN MEMORY is critical or they just won't work.

Laterz,
J


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:26:07 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks for the suggestion.
> 
> Unfortunately, it did not work. This is for a web service and  
> is a complex type
> which equates to a struct.
> 
> Calling all web service experts: please offer suggestions.
> 
> Doug
> 
> Micha Schopman wrote:
> > If you see name as a childNode, you might do this
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
> > and value as strucktvalue.
> >
> > Micha Schopman
> > Software Engineer
> >
> > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> > Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> > KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
> >
> > 
> > 
> > -
> > Modern Media, Making You Interact Smarter. Onze oplossingen verbeteren
> > de interactie met uw doelgroep.
> > Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
> > informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
> > 
> > 
> > -
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 14:55
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: xml to struct help
> >
> > Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against
> > the wall over this one.
> >
> > Given this XML snippet:
> > 
> >   ABC Co.
> > 
> >
> > This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and
> > "maxRows" attributes.
> > find_business = structNew();
> > find_business.generic = "2.0";
> > find_business.maxRows = "10";
> >
> > What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do
> > find_business.name = "ABC
> > Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> > Doug James
> > Hollings Cancer Center
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Charlie Griefer]

well, for one...you now have to worry about doubling up on # signs
everywhere (yes, yes, i know..i'm referring to # in hex color
declarations but the presentation layer should be seperate anyway
:P)...

i would also think (assume?) that the larger the block of text between
 tags, the more the cf engine has to parse...the less
efficient the page execution overall.


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:27:25 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do you consider top and bottom cfoutputs a 'silly' thing?
> 
> - Calvin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput
> 
> I agree top and bottum cf outputs could be as equally as silly. My
> point was more to the fact I would rather that to cfoutputs littered
> everywhere. I also don;t see how that could compile any
> faster...noticable or not.
> 
> Adam H
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:26:18 -0500, Charlie Griefer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i see  as being similar to starting a car, and 
> > as similar to shutting it off.
> >
> > I wouldn't stop/start the car at every corner (or every
> > streetlight/stopsign) that I came to.
> >
> > Altho...I also wouldn't leave it running overnight just so I wouldn't
> > have to start it in the morning (trying to keep running with the same
> > analogy as it relates to a lone  at the top of the page and
> > a lone  at the bottom).
> >
> > for your specific example, i would certainly suggest a single set of
> >  surrounding the entire .
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:17:39 -0500, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with
> > > CFoutputs everywhere...
> > > For example:
> > >
> > >  #sel_value#">
> > > #sel_text#
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
> > > seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do
> > > it that way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just
> > > throwing a cfoutput at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming
> > > they are ussing something other than  to control white
> > > space.
> > >
> > > One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would
> > > parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.
> > >
> > > Adam H
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Limitations of CFMX 7.0 Developer Version Gateways?

[Brandon Harper]

> Double-check the JVM version that CF is using (SYSTEM INFORMATION in
> the top nav of the CF Admin). A colleague same this behavior on a
> system that had the 1.4.0 JVM.

Thanks Sean.  I'd actually tried another JVM as well just in case--
the default one which came with JRun (I did the multiserver install),
as well as 1.4.2_06, but forgot to mention that.

This morning I reinstalled CFMX 7 as the time limited Enterprise
version rather than the Developer version and it seemed to clear up
the problem.  Previously it appeared that the Damon Cooper's gateway
example would just sort of hang after 10 calls to the gateway, and now
it runs all 100.

So now I'm curious as to what way the gateways are limited in the
Developer's version so I'll know to look out for that "gotcha" in the
future.  As an initial guess, it looks like you're limited to 10
gateway calls per server request?

Thanks,

- Brandon

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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Dawson, Michael]

The main issue, IMO, is how many colors, or in-document anchors, are in
the code?

Do you want to have to use ##ff or #ff?  If you wrap all with
CFOUTPUT, you will need to double-up on the #s.

I agree that it's a matter of taste. 

-Original Message-
From: Mike Nimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:06 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

I hate it when I see this, makes it hard to read and hard to maintain. 

Technically cfoutput is a tag, and having CF go in/out of a ton of tags
is slower then going in/out of only a few. Although, granted we are
talking hundreds of a ms, so we'll never notice it. In older versions cf
had to parse everything inside the cfoutput tags, at runtime, now the
compiler takes care of that.

I would say it's really a toss up, performance wise. But it's a lot
easier to read and maintain if there are fewer cfoutput tags around
everything. At least I think so.

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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Calvin Ward]

You're right Charlie, at the very least folks should be doing their color
declarations in a file that looks something like: style.css!

I'd be curious to know if your second observation is true, does anyone have
any feedback on that?

I know that in most of the work I'm doing currently my .cfm files tend to be
fairly small in the first place...

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

well, for one...you now have to worry about doubling up on # signs
everywhere (yes, yes, i know..i'm referring to # in hex color
declarations but the presentation layer should be seperate anyway
:P)...

i would also think (assume?) that the larger the block of text between
 tags, the more the cf engine has to parse...the less
efficient the page execution overall.


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:27:25 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Why do you consider top and bottom cfoutputs a 'silly' thing?
> 
> - Calvin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:59 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput
> 
> I agree top and bottum cf outputs could be as equally as silly. My
> point was more to the fact I would rather that to cfoutputs littered
> everywhere. I also don;t see how that could compile any
> faster...noticable or not.
> 
> Adam H
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:26:18 -0500, Charlie Griefer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > i see  as being similar to starting a car, and 
> > as similar to shutting it off.
> >
> > I wouldn't stop/start the car at every corner (or every
> > streetlight/stopsign) that I came to.
> >
> > Altho...I also wouldn't leave it running overnight just so I wouldn't
> > have to start it in the morning (trying to keep running with the same
> > analogy as it relates to a lone  at the top of the page and
> > a lone  at the bottom).
> >
> > for your specific example, i would certainly suggest a single set of
> >  surrounding the entire .
> >
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:17:39 -0500, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > > I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with
> > > CFoutputs everywhere...
> > > For example:
> > >
> > >  #sel_value#">
> > > #sel_text#
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
> > > seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do
> > > it that way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just
> > > throwing a cfoutput at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming
> > > they are ussing something other than  to control white
> > > space.
> > >
> > > One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would
> > > parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.
> > >
> > > Adam H
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 



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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Michael T. Tangorre]

> From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> The main issue, IMO, is how many colors, or in-document 
> anchors, are in the code?
> 
> Do you want to have to use ##ff or #ff?  If you wrap 
> all with CFOUTPUT, you will need to double-up on the #s.
> 
> I agree that it's a matter of taste. 

How about using external CSS files and not worrying about # with the color.
:-)




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Re: xml to struct help

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

Sorry, mixing my examples up here...

xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren would then contain a collection of
struct containers that hold your "name" children.

Every element has a collection of attributes above and beyond the
obvious ones in your document. xmlRoot, xmlAttributes, xmlName,
xmlNSPrefix, xmlURI, etc. and if you're going to build a struct by
hand to mirror an XML document... eh, dude... I think you're going to
have some trouble.

Why not create the string as a variable... just stick the text into a
var... then pass it into xmlParse and use that? It's going to be way
easier and much less frustrating than trying to cobble together a
mock-XML document.

Just my opine...

Laterz!
J

On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:51:01 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> XML isn't just a straigh-up struct... if you're going to reproduce an
> expected XML snippet into a well-formed XML document by hand, you need
> to recreate the whole thing or it just... won't work.
> 
> Check out this example...
> http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/tmp/xmlexample.cfm
> 
> If you click the title of the cfdump, it will rotate between simle,
> extended, and collapsed views... check out the extend version of the
> view in the bottom-left table cell.
> 
> xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
> xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren contains a collection of structs that
> represent url objects.
> 
> XML isn't just a struct, or an array... if you're talking XML and it
> needs to be validated, you're going to have to either be very VERY
> careful about how you create your structured object OR you should just
> write it out to a file, read it in via cffile, and xmlParse() it into
> a native XML binary object.
> 
> Just remember, though... xmlSearch and xmlTransform both have rules,
> and those rules follow XML standards, and the format of the document
> IN MEMORY is critical or they just won't work.
> 
> Laterz,
> J
> 
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:26:07 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks for the suggestion.
> >
> > Unfortunately, it did not work. This is for a web service and 
> >  is a complex type
> > which equates to a struct.
> >
> > Calling all web service experts: please offer suggestions.
> >
> > Doug
> >
> > Micha Schopman wrote:
> > > If you see name as a childNode, you might do this
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >
> > > And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
> > > and value as strucktvalue.
> > >
> > > Micha Schopman
> > > Software Engineer
> > >
> > > Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> > > Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> > > KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -
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> > > de interactie met uw doelgroep.
> > > Wilt u meer omzet, lagere kosten of een beter service niveau? Voor meer
> > > informatie zie www.modernmedia.nl
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 14:55
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: xml to struct help
> > >
> > > Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against
> > > the wall over this one.
> > >
> > > Given this XML snippet:
> > > 
> > >   ABC Co.
> > > 
> > >
> > > This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and
> > > "maxRows" attributes.
> > > find_business = structNew();
> > > find_business.generic = "2.0";
> > > find_business.maxRows = "10";
> > >
> > > What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do
> > > find_business.name = "ABC
> > > Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions?
> > >
> > > Doug James
> > > Hollings Cancer Center
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > 

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CF MX 7 - Speed issues

[Irvin Gomez]

Hi, everyone

I'm testing on my local machine and notice a marked delay in Coldfusion 
rendering Flash forms or creating PDF/Flashpaper docs.

My question is: are there any actual samples of this somewhere on the web? I 
don't mean the Flash demos Macromedia has. I'm talking about a real form that I 
can access and fill out through my browser.

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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Bryan Stevenson]

Charlie said:
well, for one...you now have to worry about doubling up on # signs
everywhere (yes, yes, i know..i'm referring to # in hex color
declarations but the presentation layer should be seperate anyway
:P)...

i would also think (assume?) that the larger the block of text between
 tags, the more the cf engine has to parse...the less
efficient the page execution overall.

and I say ;-):

If you use CSS then the # doubling goes away (excpet for the occasional 
image map or internal page anchor).

It was been proven time and time again (everytime this thread shows up) that 
the performance hit due to extra parsing is negligable (a few milliseconds) 
or non-existent (since CF 5).

Your code is then cleaner and easier to readless possible points of 
failure due to missing CFOUTPUTs.

To me it's a no brainerI've done it this way for as long as I can 
remember (and I've been at it since 3.1)

.but of course...each to their own...whatever floats your boat ;-)

Cheers


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Re: Business Case for a 4.5 -> 7 upgrade

[Tim Buntel]

More than 20 times faster...
http://macromedia.com/software/coldfusionmx61/whitepapers/pdf/6_1/cfmx61_per
formancebrief.pdf

 compares 4.5 to 6.1 - we should have the ColdFusion MX 7 performance brief
out soon (it's as fast or faster than 6.1)

 

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Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Charlie Griefer]

just to clarify...my 'second observation' was less observation and
more assumption...

(so i'd be curious to hear from others on that subject as well) :)


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:00:22 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're right Charlie, at the very least folks should be doing their color
> declarations in a file that looks something like: style.css!
> 
> I'd be curious to know if your second observation is true, does anyone have
> any feedback on that?
> 
> I know that in most of the work I'm doing currently my .cfm files tend to be
> fairly small in the first place...
> 
> - Calvin
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:44 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput
> 
> well, for one...you now have to worry about doubling up on # signs
> everywhere (yes, yes, i know..i'm referring to # in hex color
> declarations but the presentation layer should be seperate anyway
> :P)...
> 
> i would also think (assume?) that the larger the block of text between
>  tags, the more the cf engine has to parse...the less
> efficient the page execution overall.
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:27:25 -0500, Calvin Ward <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Why do you consider top and bottom cfoutputs a 'silly' thing?
> >
> > - Calvin
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Adam Haskell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:59 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput
> >
> > I agree top and bottum cf outputs could be as equally as silly. My
> > point was more to the fact I would rather that to cfoutputs littered
> > everywhere. I also don;t see how that could compile any
> > faster...noticable or not.
> >
> > Adam H
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:26:18 -0500, Charlie Griefer
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > i see  as being similar to starting a car, and 
> > > as similar to shutting it off.
> > >
> > > I wouldn't stop/start the car at every corner (or every
> > > streetlight/stopsign) that I came to.
> > >
> > > Altho...I also wouldn't leave it running overnight just so I wouldn't
> > > have to start it in the morning (trying to keep running with the same
> > > analogy as it relates to a lone  at the top of the page and
> > > a lone  at the bottom).
> > >
> > > for your specific example, i would certainly suggest a single set of
> > >  surrounding the entire .
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 10:17:39 -0500, Adam Haskell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > > I am sifting through some inherited code and it is littered with
> > > > CFoutputs everywhere...
> > > > For example:
> > > >
> > > >  #sel_value#">
> > > > #sel_text#
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > I figured it was done b/c somone jsut didn't know any better, but I am
> > > > seeing it where I would think the individual writting it wouldn't do
> > > > it that way. Why would anyone code like this as opposed to just
> > > > throwing a cfoutput at the beginig of a page and the end, assuming
> > > > they are ussing something other than  to control white
> > > > space.
> > > >
> > > > One co-worked claimed he did it for performance he thought it would
> > > > parse quiker, in CF5...I disagree.
> > > >
> > > > Adam H
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
> 

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Re: Limitations of CFMX 7.0 Developer Version Gateways?

[tbuntel]

Enterprise Gateway architecture is limited in message handling capability in 
Developer mode, and individual Gateways are limited to a single incoming 
OriginatorID (SMS, IM buddy, etc).

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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Dawson, Michael]

Well, sure.  In the ideal world.  ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

> From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The main issue, 
> IMO, is how many colors, or in-document anchors, are in the code?
> 
> Do you want to have to use ##ff or #ff?  If you wrap all with 
> CFOUTPUT, you will need to double-up on the #s.
> 
> I agree that it's a matter of taste. 

How about using external CSS files and not worrying about # with the
color.
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Re: xml to struct help

[Doug James]

Jared,

Thanks for the help.

What is actually happening is that I am trying to invoke a web service using 
cfinvoke. It will not 
accept an xml document because it throws an invalid argument exception. Boy do 
I wish it was as 
simple as parsing a string into an xml doc and passing that in. When using a 
web service that 
expects a complex element (made up of other elements) cfinvoke gets passed a 
CFMX structure 
. So I 
*have* to convert the 
xml to a struct.

And yes, I am having trouble. Lots and lots of trouble!

Maybe some MM experts could chime in here. 

Doug

Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
> Sorry, mixing my examples up here...
> 
> xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
> xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren would then contain a collection of
> struct containers that hold your "name" children.
> 
> Every element has a collection of attributes above and beyond the
> obvious ones in your document. xmlRoot, xmlAttributes, xmlName,
> xmlNSPrefix, xmlURI, etc. and if you're going to build a struct by
> hand to mirror an XML document... eh, dude... I think you're going to
> have some trouble.
> 
> Why not create the string as a variable... just stick the text into a
> var... then pass it into xmlParse and use that? It's going to be way
> easier and much less frustrating than trying to cobble together a
> mock-XML document.
> 
> Just my opine...
> 
> Laterz!
> J
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:51:01 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>XML isn't just a straigh-up struct... if you're going to reproduce an
>>expected XML snippet into a well-formed XML document by hand, you need
>>to recreate the whole thing or it just... won't work.
>>
>>Check out this example...
>>http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/tmp/xmlexample.cfm
>>
>>If you click the title of the cfdump, it will rotate between simle,
>>extended, and collapsed views... check out the extend version of the
>>view in the bottom-left table cell.
>>
>>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
>>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren contains a collection of structs that
>>represent url objects.
>>
>>XML isn't just a struct, or an array... if you're talking XML and it
>>needs to be validated, you're going to have to either be very VERY
>>careful about how you create your structured object OR you should just
>>write it out to a file, read it in via cffile, and xmlParse() it into
>>a native XML binary object.
>>
>>Just remember, though... xmlSearch and xmlTransform both have rules,
>>and those rules follow XML standards, and the format of the document
>>IN MEMORY is critical or they just won't work.
>>
>>Laterz,
>>J
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:26:07 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it did not work. This is for a web service and 
>>> is a complex type
>>>which equates to a struct.
>>>
>>>Calling all web service experts: please offer suggestions.
>>>
>>>Doug
>>>
>>>Micha Schopman wrote:
>>>
If you see name as a childNode, you might do this





And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
and value as strucktvalue.

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-Original Message-
From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 14:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: xml to struct help

Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against
the wall over this one.

Given this XML snippet:

  ABC Co.


This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and
"maxRows" attributes.
find_business = structNew();
find_business.generic = "2.0";
find_business.maxRows = "10";

What I can't figure out is how to get  into the structure. If I do
find_business.name = "ABC
Co."; that is making the name an attribute but I need it as an element.

Any suggestions?

Doug James
Hollings Cancer Center




>>>
>>>
> 
> 

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RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Calvin Ward]

Dude,

color="#FF" is so last century!

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

Well, sure.  In the ideal world.  ;-) 

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:02 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

> From: Dawson, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] The main issue, 
> IMO, is how many colors, or in-document anchors, are in the code?
> 
> Do you want to have to use ##ff or #ff?  If you wrap all with 
> CFOUTPUT, you will need to double-up on the #s.
> 
> I agree that it's a matter of taste. 

How about using external CSS files and not worrying about # with the
color.
:-)



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Re: xml to struct help

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

Have you looked at this?
http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/webser39.htm

J


On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 13:16:52 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Jared,
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> What is actually happening is that I am trying to invoke a web service using 
> cfinvoke. It will not
> accept an xml document because it throws an invalid argument exception. Boy 
> do I wish it was as
> simple as parsing a string into an xml doc and passing that in. When using a 
> web service that
> expects a complex element (made up of other elements) cfinvoke gets passed a 
> CFMX structure
> . So I 
> *have* to convert the
> xml to a struct.
> 
> And yes, I am having trouble. Lots and lots of trouble!
> 
> Maybe some MM experts could chime in here. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
> > Sorry, mixing my examples up here...
> >
> > xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
> > xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren would then contain a collection of
> > struct containers that hold your "name" children.
> >
> > Every element has a collection of attributes above and beyond the
> > obvious ones in your document. xmlRoot, xmlAttributes, xmlName,
> > xmlNSPrefix, xmlURI, etc. and if you're going to build a struct by
> > hand to mirror an XML document... eh, dude... I think you're going to
> > have some trouble.
> >
> > Why not create the string as a variable... just stick the text into a
> > var... then pass it into xmlParse and use that? It's going to be way
> > easier and much less frustrating than trying to cobble together a
> > mock-XML document.
> >
> > Just my opine...
> >
> > Laterz!
> > J
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:51:01 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>XML isn't just a straigh-up struct... if you're going to reproduce an
> >>expected XML snippet into a well-formed XML document by hand, you need
> >>to recreate the whole thing or it just... won't work.
> >>
> >>Check out this example...
> >>http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/tmp/xmlexample.cfm
> >>
> >>If you click the title of the cfdump, it will rotate between simle,
> >>extended, and collapsed views... check out the extend version of the
> >>view in the bottom-left table cell.
> >>
> >>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
> >>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren contains a collection of structs that
> >>represent url objects.
> >>
> >>XML isn't just a struct, or an array... if you're talking XML and it
> >>needs to be validated, you're going to have to either be very VERY
> >>careful about how you create your structured object OR you should just
> >>write it out to a file, read it in via cffile, and xmlParse() it into
> >>a native XML binary object.
> >>
> >>Just remember, though... xmlSearch and xmlTransform both have rules,
> >>and those rules follow XML standards, and the format of the document
> >>IN MEMORY is critical or they just won't work.
> >>
> >>Laterz,
> >>J
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:26:07 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Thanks for the suggestion.
> >>>
> >>>Unfortunately, it did not work. This is for a web service and 
> >>> is a complex type
> >>>which equates to a struct.
> >>>
> >>>Calling all web service experts: please offer suggestions.
> >>>
> >>>Doug
> >>>
> >>>Micha Schopman wrote:
> >>>
> If you see name as a childNode, you might do this
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
> and value as strucktvalue.
> 
> Micha Schopman
> Software Engineer
> 
> Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
> Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
> KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380
> 
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> -
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 14:55
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: xml to struct help
> 
> Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against
> the wall over this one.
> 
> Given this XML snippet:
> 
>   ABC Co.
> 
> 
> This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and
> "maxRows" attributes.
> find_business = structNew();
> find_business.generic = "2.0";
> find_business.maxRows = "10";
> 
> What I can't figure out is how

RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

[Dawson, Michael]

Many of the apps I build are quick and dirty apps that generally don't
have a wide audience and won't be used more than a few times.  I won't
go to the trouble of creating a style sheet just to color every other
row with MOD 2.  I know enough not to waste effort where it's not
needed.

;D

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Few cfoutput Vs Many cfoutput

Dude,

color="#FF" is so last century!

- Calvin

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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Rick Faircloth]

U...not sure I understand reason 1 below...what's hard to find?

As far as number 2, I've never needed their support...doesn't mean
I won't, but I've been using 4.5.2 for years without needing them...

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental
Back-ups?


If you're looking to sell this solution, then you you should seriously
consider moving past 4.5.

Reason 1) It's probably hard to find
Reason 2) It's no longer supported by MM at all

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

Hi, All..

Using CF 4.5 (Don't even start...if the horse you own plows the field just
fine, keep using him...)
Windows 2000 Server

I'm considering building my own CF-Based Backup system
to allow my clients to backup their data to my server...via CFFTP, I
guess...at this point.

I'm not totally happy with the existing FTP solutions on the market,
such as Serv-U in combination with FTP Voyager...they're ok, but are
lacking some features I would really like to have, such as emailing me and
my client with a stats report when a backup job is completed,
failure/success, etc.,
and Serv-U/FTP Voyager lacks this capability.

With a CF-based system, I can at least do that...

But are there other inabilities that CF-based solutions will have that would
make such an endeavor fruitless?  (At this point, if new editions of CF make
such an application possible, we'll discuss a new horse...)

For example, does CF provide the capability to compare documents and
back up only those that have changes made to them?  (Is this back-up
function
typically a result of comparing "date-modified" info or is actual data
content
of files compared in typical backup systems?)

Another question...can CF work with Explicit SSL encryption or some other
type of secure data transmission?  Can it encrypt files that would be stored
on my server so that if someone who might hack my server got the info, they
couldn't read it?

Any other thoughts are welcomed on this issue...

Matt...I know that you use Serv-U and FTP Voyager for this type of stuff...
any reason why you haven't built a CF application to do this?

Thanks for any and all input...

Rick



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Re: Using ColdFusion to set scroll to position?

[Charles Heizer]

Ok, I've finally gotten back to this ...

I guess what I'm really after is something like this ...



  function foobar()
{
var vY = (document.all)?document.body.scrollTop:window.pageYOffset;

}



Can I do something like this?

Thanks,
- Charles


On Jan 31, 2005, at 9:16 AM, Ian Skinner wrote:

> CS can output JS code just as well as it outputs HTML code.  You just  
> write the dynamic JS; this is then sent to the client and acted on.   
> You are not "getting at JS variables;" you are creating dynamic JS  
> code.
>
> 
> 
>  function foobar()
> {
>   var JSvar = #CFvalue#;
> }
> 
> 
>
>
>
> --
> Ian Skinner
> Web Programmer
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> Sacramento, CA
>
> "C code. C code run. Run code run. Please!"
> - Cynthia Dunning
>
> ...-Original Message-
> ...From: Charles Heizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ...Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:07 AM
> ...To: CF-Talk
> ...Subject: Re: Using Coldfusion to set scroll to position?
> ...
> ...I thought about this but I don't have a good method of marking  
> rows. I
> ...have been looking in to javascript but I don't know how to get at js
> ...vars with coldfusion.
> ...
> ...- Charles
> ...
> ...On Jan 29, 2005, at 1:35 AM, Martin Parry wrote:
> ...
> ...> If you have distinct blocks or rows of a table etc. in the page  
> you
> ...> could use HTML anchors and when you redirect back to the page use
> ...> http://myserver.com/page.cfm#anchor_15
> ...>
> ...> Martin Parry
> ...> Macromedia Certified Developer
> ...> http://www.BeetrootStreet.co.uk
> ...>
> ...> -Original Message-
> ...> From: Charles Heizer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ...> Sent: 29 January 2005 08:02
> ...> To: CF-Talk
> ...> Subject: Using Coldfusion to set scroll to position?
> ...>
> ...> Hello,
> ...> I was wondering if someone has a good example of setting the  
> scroll
> ...> position of a page using a session variable or a cookie?
> ...>
> ...>
> ...>
> ...
> ...
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RE: xml to struct help

[Matthew Small]

Are you saying that the webservice itself (non-CF I imagine, and it's not
something you wrote) needs a complex datatype as a parameter?

Perhaps you could determine the exact XML structure it needs passed in (by
going to its WSDL page) and create that structure in CF to pass.

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: xml to struct help

Jared,

Thanks for the help.

What is actually happening is that I am trying to invoke a web service using
cfinvoke. It will not 
accept an xml document because it throws an invalid argument exception. Boy
do I wish it was as 
simple as parsing a string into an xml doc and passing that in. When using a
web service that 
expects a complex element (made up of other elements) cfinvoke gets passed a
CFMX structure 
. So I
*have* to convert the 
xml to a struct.

And yes, I am having trouble. Lots and lots of trouble!

Maybe some MM experts could chime in here. 

Doug

Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
> Sorry, mixing my examples up here...
> 
> xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
> xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren would then contain a collection of
> struct containers that hold your "name" children.
> 
> Every element has a collection of attributes above and beyond the
> obvious ones in your document. xmlRoot, xmlAttributes, xmlName,
> xmlNSPrefix, xmlURI, etc. and if you're going to build a struct by
> hand to mirror an XML document... eh, dude... I think you're going to
> have some trouble.
> 
> Why not create the string as a variable... just stick the text into a
> var... then pass it into xmlParse and use that? It's going to be way
> easier and much less frustrating than trying to cobble together a
> mock-XML document.
> 
> Just my opine...
> 
> Laterz!
> J
> 
> On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:51:01 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>>XML isn't just a straigh-up struct... if you're going to reproduce an
>>expected XML snippet into a well-formed XML document by hand, you need
>>to recreate the whole thing or it just... won't work.
>>
>>Check out this example...
>>http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/tmp/xmlexample.cfm
>>
>>If you click the title of the cfdump, it will rotate between simle,
>>extended, and collapsed views... check out the extend version of the
>>view in the bottom-left table cell.
>>
>>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
>>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren contains a collection of structs that
>>represent url objects.
>>
>>XML isn't just a struct, or an array... if you're talking XML and it
>>needs to be validated, you're going to have to either be very VERY
>>careful about how you create your structured object OR you should just
>>write it out to a file, read it in via cffile, and xmlParse() it into
>>a native XML binary object.
>>
>>Just remember, though... xmlSearch and xmlTransform both have rules,
>>and those rules follow XML standards, and the format of the document
>>IN MEMORY is critical or they just won't work.
>>
>>Laterz,
>>J
>>
>>
>>On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:26:07 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>Thanks for the suggestion.
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it did not work. This is for a web service and
 is a complex type
>>>which equates to a struct.
>>>
>>>Calling all web service experts: please offer suggestions.
>>>
>>>Doug
>>>
>>>Micha Schopman wrote:
>>>
If you see name as a childNode, you might do this





And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
and value as strucktvalue.

Micha Schopman
Software Engineer

Modern Media, Databankweg 12 M, 3821 AL  Amersfoort
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-Original Message-
From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: donderdag 10 februari 2005 14:55
To: CF-Talk
Subject: xml to struct help

Please help, my forehead is very red and painful from banging against
the wall over this one.

Given this XML snippet:

  ABC Co.


This struct accurately represents  with the "generic" and
"maxRows" attributes.
find_business = structNew();
find_business.generic = "2.0";
find_business.maxRows = "10";

What I can't figure out is 

RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Rick Faircloth]

Hi, Bob...

Now, I LIKE SyncBack!

I already had WebDrive installed as an evaluation
and it, combined with SyncBack is running perfectly!

And only $15, too.  If I could just get a WebDrive-type solution
for around $25, I have a better "Setup" charge...of course, I'll
have to setup everything for my clients, so the setup charge will
usually more than cover $65, but I'd like to keep the setup charge
as low as possible for small clients...but even at $65 for SyncBack
and WebDrive, this a really good solution...I really didn't want "backup
software"
that lumped everything into a proprietary format...I want to be able to see
my files
in a directory structure like in WebDrive...

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Bob Haroche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:45 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental
Back-ups?


> Any other thoughts or suggestions,  Justin?  Anyone?

I'm late to this thread but thought I'd share a recent solution, not CF
based, I've found for remote backups:

SyncBack:

http://www.2brightsparks.com/syncback/sbp-features.html

$15 windows shareware (also a freeware version).  It allows you to designate
any number of directories or entire drives (including networked drives) and
synchronize them to another location, including an ftp server. You can do a
true synch, or a mirroring one way or the other. You can then set it to run
automatically using Windows task scheduler.

It's not a true backup in that you're not compressing data into one large
file, but it does the sync'ing and mirroring very well.

I'm using it for a client to upload her 1 gig of data to an ftp server,
using Hurricane Electric hosting(unix/apache, no CFML) as they offer 5 gigs
of storage for $25/mo (www.he.net).  Since she doesn't change gigabytes of
data each day, after the initial mirroring, each day's change involves only
minimal data changes to upload/mirror.

For the client to view the ftp backup data, she's not using an ftp program
per se but instead using WebDrive, which lets her view any ftp site just
like a networked drive in My Computer or Windows Explorer:

http://www.southrivertech.com/index.php?pg=./products/webdrive/index

(a little pricey at $50/license but it makes the whole off-site backup
system very easy for the client).



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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Calvin Ward]

I was erroneously thinking you might want to sell the finished product, I
meant that a copy of CF 4.5 will probably be hard to find.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

U...not sure I understand reason 1 below...what's hard to find?

As far as number 2, I've never needed their support...doesn't mean
I won't, but I've been using 4.5.2 for years without needing them...

Rick

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From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 12:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental
Back-ups?


If you're looking to sell this solution, then you you should seriously
consider moving past 4.5.

Reason 1) It's probably hard to find
Reason 2) It's no longer supported by MM at all

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 10:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

Hi, All..

Using CF 4.5 (Don't even start...if the horse you own plows the field just
fine, keep using him...)
Windows 2000 Server

I'm considering building my own CF-Based Backup system
to allow my clients to backup their data to my server...via CFFTP, I
guess...at this point.

I'm not totally happy with the existing FTP solutions on the market,
such as Serv-U in combination with FTP Voyager...they're ok, but are
lacking some features I would really like to have, such as emailing me and
my client with a stats report when a backup job is completed,
failure/success, etc.,
and Serv-U/FTP Voyager lacks this capability.

With a CF-based system, I can at least do that...

But are there other inabilities that CF-based solutions will have that would
make such an endeavor fruitless?  (At this point, if new editions of CF make
such an application possible, we'll discuss a new horse...)

For example, does CF provide the capability to compare documents and
back up only those that have changes made to them?  (Is this back-up
function
typically a result of comparing "date-modified" info or is actual data
content
of files compared in typical backup systems?)

Another question...can CF work with Explicit SSL encryption or some other
type of secure data transmission?  Can it encrypt files that would be stored
on my server so that if someone who might hack my server got the info, they
couldn't read it?

Any other thoughts are welcomed on this issue...

Matt...I know that you use Serv-U and FTP Voyager for this type of stuff...
any reason why you haven't built a CF application to do this?

Thanks for any and all input...

Rick



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RE: Outsourced support to India?

[Steven Erat]

By the way, I made this post 5 minutes after the original on Monday.  It
floated around with all the lost socks in the universe and suddenly decided
to show up on the list today.

> ... leaves a distinctly unprofessional taste in my mouth.
> 
> I dial his number
> 
> "You have reached the Meredian Personal Call Director.  To locate the 
> party you are calling, press 1 now."

As far at the "Meredian Personal Call Director" experience, this was because
the person was not in the office and their phone was configured to forward
to their cell phone, but apparently they did not answer.  This really isn't
any different from not reaching anyone else on their phone.  They do this
because they want to maximize the opportunity to take your call, although it
didn't work out this time.

-Steve

> -Original Message-
> From: Steven Erat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 10:16 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: Outsourced support to India?
> 
> > I've heard that as of CF7, Macromedia has outsourced all 
> support and 
> > engineering to India.
> > 
> > Any truth to this rumor?
> > 
> >   - Rick
> 
> 
> Support?  Um... No.
> 
> Although you might also want to take a look at 
> http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/hr/india/
> 
> -Steven Erat in Boston  (who sits among roughly 15 of my 
> server support
> peers, not to mention those who are distributed across the US from
> California to Minnesota to West Virginia while working 
> remote, and there's
> tools support in San Fran, Texas, etc...)

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RE: Using ColdFusion to set scroll to position?

[Ian Skinner]

No, CF has no idea what that means, nothing has been sent to the client yet.  
And it is the client that figures out things like "document.body.scrollTop" and 
"window.pageYOffset"  Once the request has been sent to the client, the server 
is no longer involved in the processing, it has moved on to the next request.

If you really really really need something like this, you will have to use 
cookies, forms and/or hidden frames; in order to pass values from the client 
back to the server.

But one should always ask why one would need this?  Why does the server need to 
know and keep track of whether it is document.body.scrollTop or 
window.pageYOffset.  JavaScript is much more adept at determining and using 
this information.

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Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 11:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Using ColdFusion to set scroll to position?

Ok, I've finally gotten back to this ...

I guess what I'm really after is something like this ...



  function foobar()
{
var vY = (document.all)?document.body.scrollTop:window.pageYOffset;

}



Can I do something like this?

Thanks,
- Charles

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Re: xml to struct help

[Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC]

The liveDocs for dealing with complex datatypes say to do this:

Look at the WSDL complex type definition. Create a struct that matches
the type and configuration of the requested datat as a struct, and
pass it back into the webservice.

So for your situation, you should be able to get by like this:


   ABC Co.


becomes



find_business["generic"] = "2.0";
find_business["maxRows"] = "10";
find_business ["ABC Co"] = "";

Is that getting you closer?

Laterz,
J



On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 14:21:38 -0500, Matthew Small <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Are you saying that the webservice itself (non-CF I imagine, and it's not
> something you wrote) needs a complex datatype as a parameter?
> 
> Perhaps you could determine the exact XML structure it needs passed in (by
> going to its WSDL page) and create that structure in CF to pass.
> 
> - Matt Small
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Doug James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, February 10, 2005 1:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: xml to struct help
> 
> Jared,
> 
> Thanks for the help.
> 
> What is actually happening is that I am trying to invoke a web service using
> cfinvoke. It will not
> accept an xml document because it throws an invalid argument exception. Boy
> do I wish it was as
> simple as parsing a string into an xml doc and passing that in. When using a
> web service that
> expects a complex element (made up of other elements) cfinvoke gets passed a
> CFMX structure
> . So I
> *have* to convert the
> xml to a struct.
> 
> And yes, I am having trouble. Lots and lots of trouble!
> 
> Maybe some MM experts could chime in here. 
> 
> Doug
> 
> Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC wrote:
> > Sorry, mixing my examples up here...
> >
> > xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
> > xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren would then contain a collection of
> > struct containers that hold your "name" children.
> >
> > Every element has a collection of attributes above and beyond the
> > obvious ones in your document. xmlRoot, xmlAttributes, xmlName,
> > xmlNSPrefix, xmlURI, etc. and if you're going to build a struct by
> > hand to mirror an XML document... eh, dude... I think you're going to
> > have some trouble.
> >
> > Why not create the string as a variable... just stick the text into a
> > var... then pass it into xmlParse and use that? It's going to be way
> > easier and much less frustrating than trying to cobble together a
> > mock-XML document.
> >
> > Just my opine...
> >
> > Laterz!
> > J
> >
> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:51:01 -0600, Jared Rypka-Hauer - CMG, LLC
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >>XML isn't just a straigh-up struct... if you're going to reproduce an
> >>expected XML snippet into a well-formed XML document by hand, you need
> >>to recreate the whole thing or it just... won't work.
> >>
> >>Check out this example...
> >>http://w2ksrv1.neo.servequake.com/tmp/xmlexample.cfm
> >>
> >>If you click the title of the cfdump, it will rotate between simle,
> >>extended, and collapsed views... check out the extend version of the
> >>view in the bottom-left table cell.
> >>
> >>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlName=find_business
> >>xmlRoot.xmlElement.xmlChildren contains a collection of structs that
> >>represent url objects.
> >>
> >>XML isn't just a struct, or an array... if you're talking XML and it
> >>needs to be validated, you're going to have to either be very VERY
> >>careful about how you create your structured object OR you should just
> >>write it out to a file, read it in via cffile, and xmlParse() it into
> >>a native XML binary object.
> >>
> >>Just remember, though... xmlSearch and xmlTransform both have rules,
> >>and those rules follow XML standards, and the format of the document
> >>IN MEMORY is critical or they just won't work.
> >>
> >>Laterz,
> >>J
> >>
> >>
> >>On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:26:07 -0500, Doug James <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Thanks for the suggestion.
> >>>
> >>>Unfortunately, it did not work. This is for a web service and
>  is a complex type
> >>>which equates to a struct.
> >>>
> >>>Calling all web service experts: please offer suggestions.
> >>>
> >>>Doug
> >>>
> >>>Micha Schopman wrote:
> >>>
> If you see name as a childNode, you might do this
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> And then each array entry gets a new struct :) With the key as structkey
> and value as strucktvalue.
> 
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U.S.-based SMS/SMPP API

[James Edmunds]

Dear all,

I've seen a nice list  of SMS/SMPP account providers at Damon Cooper's
blog, mostly UK or Europe-based. (http://tinyurl.com/4ouqp)

Does anyone have a similar list of U.S.-based (and dollar-priced)
account providers? I'm interested in a connection aggregator to send
across various wireless services, rather than an API for just one
cariier.

Thanks in advance!

Best,

James Edmunds
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RE: Comparing Remote & Local Documents for Incremental Back-ups?

[Damien McKenna]

I use Directory Opus 8 for that kinda thing.

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Nested cfoutputs problem

[Rodger]

I want to use a  tag inside of a  tag.
i.e. 


  #Var1##recordset.Rec1#

 
Assuming: Var1=Dat1, and 
 Rec1=Name1, and also Rec1=Name2
Result:  Dat1Dat1Name1 
Dat1Name2
 
What I am looking for is:
Dat1Name1
Dat1Name2
 
If nesting a  in a  does that, is there
another way?
 
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