RE: Re[2]: Try Docubee Forms please

2005-05-02 Thread Micha Schopman
Dave, 

The contributions are there, but as with a lot of this stuff, it
requires quite some knowledge to implement (and to debug or at least not
to panic when something fails). I think that is the only part which is
holding people up. There are no large technical boundaries anymore like
you might have experienced in the Netscape 4 times.

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Project Manager

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Re: SQLServer Connect problem - was it ever resolved?

2005-05-02 Thread Ian Buzer
Are you using Windows 2003? If so, have you updated SQL2000 to the very latest 
service pack? 

To quote Microsoft, Microsoft Windows Serverâ„¢ 2003 supports only SQL Server 
2000 with Service Pack 3

What they mean is that there is a bug in SQL on 2003 whereby it won't 
communicate across TCPIP. SP3 fixes it.

You won't believe how long I messed around with firewalls before I figured that 
one out :)

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RE: Re[2]: Try Docubee Forms please

2005-05-02 Thread dave
What does that have too do with what my suggestions and thoughts were?

 Rehash: I suggested that the thumbs be clickable to bigger screen shots to 
clearly see the products so I could decide on whether or not I wanna invest the 
time to check it out, as it is you click on a thumb and it downloads the 
programs which was quite annoying.
 Which ended up not mattering because the product isn't cross browser capable, 
so that gave me my answer right there.

 What intrigued me was he said it was like flash forms, so I went to check it 
too see what it could do but you can't see what it can/can't do because the 
sceenshots are too small and link to the product download.


From: Micha Schopman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:42 AM
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Subject: RE: Re[2]: Try Docubee Forms please 

Dave, 

The contributions are there, but as with a lot of this stuff, it
requires quite some knowledge to implement (and to debug or at least not
to panic when something fails). I think that is the only part which is
holding people up. There are no large technical boundaries anymore like
you might have experienced in the Netscape 4 times.

Micha Schopman
Project Manager

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Tel 033-4535377, Fax 033-4535388
KvK Amersfoort 39081679, Rabo 39.48.05.380



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RE: Re[2]: Try Docubee Forms please

2005-05-02 Thread Micha Schopman
I responded on your line where you said 

Would be nice if more ppl would contribute this sort of thing to the
cfm community :)


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CF plugin for VS.NET?

2005-05-02 Thread Matthew Small
Is there a CF plugin for VS.NET?  BlueDragon - you guys have anything like
that?


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RE: CF plugin for VS.NET?

2005-05-02 Thread Vince Bonfanti
No, we haven't created one, and we're not aware of one. Currently, the best
tool for doing both CFML and ASP.NET development might be DreamWeaver.
There's also an IDE call PrimalCode that supports both CFML and ASP.NET:

   http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/tools/default.aspx

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 Is there a CF plugin for VS.NET?  BlueDragon - you guys have 
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RE: CF plugin for VS.NET?

2005-05-02 Thread Matthew Small
Thank you.  I was hoping that you did have one.  We're using both
technologies and Eclipse, as free and as promising as it is, is just too
buggy for me to work with.

- Matt Small

-Original Message-
From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:41 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF plugin for VS.NET?

No, we haven't created one, and we're not aware of one. Currently, the best
tool for doing both CFML and ASP.NET development might be DreamWeaver.
There's also an IDE call PrimalCode that supports both CFML and ASP.NET:

   http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/tools/default.aspx

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 Is there a CF plugin for VS.NET?  BlueDragon - you guys have 
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OOP development tools

2005-05-02 Thread Russ
Are there any plugins for Homesite+ or Eclipse or some other tool out there
that can provide code insight for cfc's?  We're working on some Mach II
sites, and it's a little annoying to have to open up some other file and see
what the method is named and what types of parameters it takes, etc.  It
would be great if there was a tool that could parse this kind of stuff and
be able to automatically tell you the methods that the object has and what
parameters it expects (sort of like VS).  

 

 



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RE: OOP development tools

2005-05-02 Thread Calvin Ward
Try cfeclipse, great stuff there :)

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: OOP development tools

Are there any plugins for Homesite+ or Eclipse or some other tool out there
that can provide code insight for cfc's?  We're working on some Mach II
sites, and it's a little annoying to have to open up some other file and see
what the method is named and what types of parameters it takes, etc.  It
would be great if there was a tool that could parse this kind of stuff and
be able to automatically tell you the methods that the object has and what
parameters it expects (sort of like VS).  

 

 





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Re: MX7 + CFFile + Security Sandbox = Error

2005-05-02 Thread Fabio Terracini
Yeap, that correct. You must add that path do sandbox security also. We 
faced this issue when the file upload input is optional: *not* every 
time the form is submitted it will had a file to upload.

--
Fabio Terracini


James Holmes wrote:

Just add the
C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\servers\coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp
directory to the sandbox for read / write access, not the whole CFusionMX7
directory. We had to do this in MX 6.0.

-Original Message-
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To: CF-Talk
Subject: MX7 + CFFile + Security Sandbox = Error

Today, while testing a application that handles a file upload that was
previously working in previous versions of CF (with Security Sandbox turned
on), I got the following error message:

Security: The requested template has been denied access to
C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\servers\coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp\neotmp3
8262.tmp.
The following is the internal exception message: access denied
(java.io.FilePermission
C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\servers\coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp\neotmp3
8262.tmp read)

If I disable Sandbox Security in CF Admin, then the error message goes away.
So, I guess the work around for this is to add the CFusionMX7 directory to
the Security Sandbox, but that seems like a bad idea from a security
standpoint. Also, it seems kind-o-funky that this changed in v7. Anyone have
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Re: OOP development tools

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Are there any plugins for Homesite+ or Eclipse or some
 other tool out there
 that can provide code insight for cfc's?  We're working on
 some Mach II
 sites, and it's a little annoying to have to open up some
 other file and see
 what the method is named and what types of parameters it
 takes, etc.  It
 would be great if there was a tool that could parse this
 kind of stuff and
 be able to automatically tell you the methods that the
 object has and what
 parameters it expects (sort of like VS).


I believe Dreamweaver has a CFC explorer.
Don't quote me, I haven't used it.



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location 26 error COM

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Haskell
I have a strange problem on our production box, which is running CF 5
on w2k server.

I have a COM API installed and working (this was tested by using a VBS
script). All my code has been tested on a test box as well and works
flawlessly. However on the production box I am getting the Location 26
error which ussually means the server crashed but if i make 2 (nearly)
simultaneous request to the server one for the non working COM call
and 1 to another page on the server the wokring page comes back fine.
The test  am running is simple:

cfobject action=create type=com class=MyClassj name=MyCOM 
cfset bob = MyCOM.ServerLogin(credentials)

cfoject does not bomb the first method call does


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RE: OOP development tools

2005-05-02 Thread Damien McKenna
 -Original Message-
 From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Are there any plugins for Homesite+ or Eclipse or some other 
 tool out there that can provide code insight for cfc's?

Dreamweaver MX 2004? :)  I suspect the next version AFAIK due later in
the year should be even better.

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OT: Load Balancing/Filtering?

2005-05-02 Thread Jon Block
I have a pool of servers managed by an F5. I'm trying to figure out how I
can separate out my traffic such that all CFM requests are delivered to
server A and all other types of requests (graphics etc) are sent to server
B. What is the best way to do this?


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CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Sherwood
When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's 
site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column. 
I surely thought that with the launch of the most exciting and 
feature rich version of ColdFusion, the product would get top billing 
on MM's website and be featured in the main animation banner that spans 
across the page, above the fold.

To my surprise, this never happened. During the launch, Flash Mobile and 
a few other products were featured in the main animation - many of which 
were days/weeks old at this point.

Enter Breeze 5. Sure enough, on the day of the announcement, there is a 
nice banner highlighting product as well as a smaller graphics and text 
in the center products column. Surely, MM wanted the world to know about 
Breeze 5, and the website shows it.

Why am I mentioning this? Well, IMHO, it's a subtle but important 
indicator about MM's view of CFMX. It's not that they won't devote $$ 
and resources to its continued development, but it's clear that the 
broader reach products like Breeze and some of the Flash authoring 
tools will continue to force CFMX to  backstage instead of its 
rightful place at center stage.

To make things worse, MM and Adobe are set to merge.  With both 
companies heavily invested in the tools market, CFML's future could be 
bleak. CMFX won't dissapear, but it's growth in terms of market share 
AND features could be slowed to an unacceptable pace as MM/Adobe's 
attention focuses more closely on their cash cow: tools and IDEs.

Sorry for the rant, but I hate to see CFMX get dissed by it's own company!


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RE: Load Balancing/Filtering?

2005-05-02 Thread Russ
I'm not sure what an F5 is, but you can have all your images go to
images.yourdomain.com instead of www, and have images pointed to a different
ip.  

Russ

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Subject: OT: Load Balancing/Filtering?

I have a pool of servers managed by an F5. I'm trying to figure out how I
can separate out my traffic such that all CFM requests are delivered to
server A and all other types of requests (graphics etc) are sent to server
B. What is the best way to do this?


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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Davis
Of course there are other ways to look at it:

CF may be exactly the type of product that won't get generated sales from
such placement.

CF is a more deliberative product: something that people need to study and
try before choosing.  Breeze and Flash are, well, flashy products that,
with a short web demo may attract managers and buyers on that strength.

You might also just simply say that Flash is the companies bread-and-butter.
It will get top placement more often than not.  However Breeze is (from all
accounts) struggling a bit.  It gets top placement to promote it.

However with no such placement ColdFusion is (from all accounts)
flourishing.  Sales are up, satisfaction is high.

Why bother dedicating such space to a product that's doing just fine without
it?

Of course this is all just conjecture, but they seem as reasonable
explanations as anything else I think.

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.

-Adam

On 5/2/05, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's
 site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column.
 I surely thought that with the launch of the most exciting and
 feature rich version of ColdFusion, the product would get top billing
 on MM's website and be featured in the main animation banner that spans
 across the page, above the fold.
 
 To my surprise, this never happened. During the launch, Flash Mobile and
 a few other products were featured in the main animation - many of which
 were days/weeks old at this point.
 
 Enter Breeze 5. Sure enough, on the day of the announcement, there is a
 nice banner highlighting product as well as a smaller graphics and text
 in the center products column. Surely, MM wanted the world to know about
 Breeze 5, and the website shows it.
 
 Why am I mentioning this? Well, IMHO, it's a subtle but important
 indicator about MM's view of CFMX. It's not that they won't devote $$
 and resources to its continued development, but it's clear that the
 broader reach products like Breeze and some of the Flash authoring
 tools will continue to force CFMX to  backstage instead of its
 rightful place at center stage.
 
 To make things worse, MM and Adobe are set to merge.  With both
 companies heavily invested in the tools market, CFML's future could be
 bleak. CMFX won't dissapear, but it's growth in terms of market share
 AND features could be slowed to an unacceptable pace as MM/Adobe's
 attention focuses more closely on their cash cow: tools and IDEs.
 
 Sorry for the rant, but I hate to see CFMX get dissed by it's own company!
 
 

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Combining verity results with database query

2005-05-02 Thread George Abraham
Hi all,
I have a verity search result (say VerityResults) that has the key as
the primary id of a database table. I know that I can use this primary
id as a parameter for retreiving results from the database like so:

cfquery datasource =thisDSN name=thisQuery
SELECT *
FROM thisTable
WHERE PrimaryID IN (#ValueList(VerityResults.Key),,)#)
/cfquery

However I would like to order the results in thisQuery as the same as
thescore of the VerityResults. Is there some elegant way to do this
without resorting to a queryMerge UDF or somthing like that?

TIA,
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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Sherwood
I think some of the banners rotate at the top of MM's page. How about a 
CF banner that rotates in, say, one in 5 views?! There was NOTHING, not 
one banner that I could see.

Why even issue a press release with MM's URL on it then? Why not just 
post a message here on CFTALK and let the bloggers talk about it?


Jim Davis wrote:

Of course there are other ways to look at it:

CF may be exactly the type of product that won't get generated sales from
such placement.

CF is a more deliberative product: something that people need to study and
try before choosing.  Breeze and Flash are, well, flashy products that,
with a short web demo may attract managers and buyers on that strength.

You might also just simply say that Flash is the companies bread-and-butter.
It will get top placement more often than not.  However Breeze is (from all
accounts) struggling a bit.  It gets top placement to promote it.

However with no such placement ColdFusion is (from all accounts)
flourishing.  Sales are up, satisfaction is high.

Why bother dedicating such space to a product that's doing just fine without
it?

Of course this is all just conjecture, but they seem as reasonable
explanations as anything else I think.

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Sherwood
You're right. It's..um.CF TALK!

Adrocknaphobia wrote:

Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.

-Adam

On 5/2/05, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  

When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's
site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column.
I surely thought that with the launch of the most exciting and
feature rich version of ColdFusion, the product would get top billing
on MM's website and be featured in the main animation banner that spans
across the page, above the fold.

To my surprise, this never happened. During the launch, Flash Mobile and
a few other products were featured in the main animation - many of which
were days/weeks old at this point.

Enter Breeze 5. Sure enough, on the day of the announcement, there is a
nice banner highlighting product as well as a smaller graphics and text
in the center products column. Surely, MM wanted the world to know about
Breeze 5, and the website shows it.

Why am I mentioning this? Well, IMHO, it's a subtle but important
indicator about MM's view of CFMX. It's not that they won't devote $$
and resources to its continued development, but it's clear that the
broader reach products like Breeze and some of the Flash authoring
tools will continue to force CFMX to  backstage instead of its
rightful place at center stage.

To make things worse, MM and Adobe are set to merge.  With both
companies heavily invested in the tools market, CFML's future could be
bleak. CMFX won't dissapear, but it's growth in terms of market share
AND features could be slowed to an unacceptable pace as MM/Adobe's
attention focuses more closely on their cash cow: tools and IDEs.

Sorry for the rant, but I hate to see CFMX get dissed by it's own company!







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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Adrocknaphobia
Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.

-Adam

 You're right. It's..um.CF TALK!
 
 Adrocknaphobia wrote:
 
 Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.
 
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Re: Load Balancing/Filtering?

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Churvis
An F5 is a hardware load balancer, and you can do some really cool things
with it using the URL rewriting techniques that Macromedia wrote about in
some of their technotes.  We have one in our load testing lab.

Take a look through the technotes for the articles that address this.  They
also talk about serving images from a web server in a way that doesn't bog
down JRun.  If you can't find the info then contact me offlist and I'll try
to help you out.

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- Original Message - 
From: Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:37 AM
Subject: RE: Load Balancing/Filtering?


 I'm not sure what an F5 is, but you can have all your images go to
 images.yourdomain.com instead of www, and have images pointed to a
different
 ip.

 Russ

 -Original Message-
 From: Jon Block [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:46 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: Load Balancing/Filtering?

 I have a pool of servers managed by an F5. I'm trying to figure out how I
 can separate out my traffic such that all CFM requests are delivered to
 server A and all other types of requests (graphics etc) are sent to
server
 B. What is the best way to do this?


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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Calvin Ward
I happen to agree that it would have been nice to CFMX 7 featured as the
primary banner during release week.

I also think the post is at least somewhat topical. Certainly more topical
than some of the responses.

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:21 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.

-Adam

 You're right. It's..um.CF TALK!
 
 Adrocknaphobia wrote:
 
 Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.
 
 -Adam



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cfform and checkboxes

2005-05-02 Thread Mark A Kruger
I like to create a form with checkboxes that list items from a database.  I
store the ID in the value field and handle the list or array when it's
posted.

I cannot seem to do the same thing with a flash form and checkboxes.  It
won't allow me to instantiate multiple checkboxes with the same name. Is
there a way around this limitation?

-mark

Mark A. Kruger, CFG, MCSE
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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Sherwood
Paranoid conspiracy theory? What?

Don't put words in my mouth, skippy. My post was a relevant topic on 
what I thought was MM's poor exposure of CFMX7 compared to products like 
Breeze and Flash Lite.No conspiracies - just facts about marketing 
collateral (or lack thereof) displayed on MM's website.

I'm sorry, can you point me to the post where you told people posting 
about the MM/Adobe merger to move the posts to their personal blogs? 
Where is that post in the archive, because I can't seem to locate 
it...can you post the URL?



Adrocknaphobia wrote:

Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.

-Adam
  



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Re: OOP development tools

2005-05-02 Thread Ken Dunnington
Definitely check out CFEclipse. It has great code insight/code
completion (and even has a way of letting you add your own custom
insight), a Methods View for CFC's, code folding, and too many other
features to list here. And it keeps getting better all the time.

On 5/2/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are there any plugins for Homesite+ or Eclipse or some other tool out there
 that can provide code insight for cfc's?  We're working on some Mach II
 sites, and it's a little annoying to have to open up some other file and see
 what the method is named and what types of parameters it takes, etc.  It
 would be great if there was a tool that could parse this kind of stuff and
 be able to automatically tell you the methods that the object has and what
 parameters it expects (sort of like VS).
 
 

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Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Burns, John D
I am having a very strange problem with anchors and cflocation in an
application I'm working on.  I'm almost 100% sure there are no errors in
the code so I'm more hoping that someone will know of an existing
problem or will have run into this problem in the past and know a
solution.  Ok, here's the deal:
 
We're using fusebox 4 and I have a .cfm that processes a few different
form submissions and has cfif blocks to break apart which form is being
processed.  At the end of each cfif block, I have a cflocation that
puts the user back to a listing of items and jumps them down to the one
they just added/edited instead of having to scroll.  I'm using # symbols
to escape the anchor in the url and it works fine on all of the
cflocations except 1.  The funny thing is that it's the exact same
code as one of the conditions further down the page.  I even put a link
on the page with the exact same code (copied and pasted) from the
cflocation into the href and a cfabort after that.  When I do that,
I can click on that link and it does just what is expected.  I can't
figure out why it would be losing the anchor, but when the cflocation
happens, it goes back to the listing page and the end of the link
doesn't have a #anchorname on it at all.  Anyone know why this could be
stripped off?  Something weird happening in the headers?  Any
suggestions are appreciated.
 
John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 
 


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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION (Additional info)

2005-05-02 Thread Burns, John D
If it helps any, the box is a *nix box with CF 5 on it... In case that
raises any red flags.


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

-Original Message-
From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Anchors and CFLOCATION

I am having a very strange problem with anchors and cflocation in an
application I'm working on.  I'm almost 100% sure there are no errors in
the code so I'm more hoping that someone will know of an existing
problem or will have run into this problem in the past and know a
solution.  Ok, here's the deal:
 
We're using fusebox 4 and I have a .cfm that processes a few different
form submissions and has cfif blocks to break apart which form is being
processed.  At the end of each cfif block, I have a cflocation that
puts the user back to a listing of items and jumps them down to the one
they just added/edited instead of having to scroll.  I'm using # symbols
to escape the anchor in the url and it works fine on all of the
cflocations except 1.  The funny thing is that it's the exact same
code as one of the conditions further down the page.  I even put a link
on the page with the exact same code (copied and pasted) from the
cflocation into the href and a cfabort after that.  When I do that,
I can click on that link and it does just what is expected.  I can't
figure out why it would be losing the anchor, but when the cflocation
happens, it goes back to the listing page and the end of the link
doesn't have a #anchorname on it at all.  Anyone know why this could be
stripped off?  Something weird happening in the headers?  Any
suggestions are appreciated.
 
John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web
Developer
 
 




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async gateway issue

2005-05-02 Thread Steve Dworman
i am really inexperienced with these event gateways.  however, i have gotten 
the simple example of the concurrency library to work.  what i want to test is 
passing a value back and forth.  how do i do that?

 This simple example demonstrates how to spawn and run many 
 long-running tasks simultaneously using the Async CFML Gateway from a 
 regular CFML web page, and creates a synchronization point in the 
 CFML page that waits for all threads to complete before continuing.
 
 Communication between threads in this example is done using Server 
 variables (with CFLOCK).
 
 (Watch the wrap): 
 http://www.dcooper.org/blog/client/index.
 cfm?mode=entryentry=24BEF3D6-4E22-1671-55146EEC011D18D4
 
 Hope that helps.
 
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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Damien McKenna
Things to check:

1. The url in the cflocation has two # signs if its inside a cfoutput
block and one # if it not.

2. The link name and url anchor are exactly the same.

Personally I don't do a cflocation until the data has been validated,
otherwise they are shown the same form again straight away with an error
message.

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Re: CFX_Image_MX

2005-05-02 Thread cftalk
ImageCR is definitely a consideration as well, especially with SWF output:

  http://efflare.com

-- 
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 You can also check out the Alagad Image Component...http://www.alagad.com
 
 On 4/30/05, Joe Velez [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi -
  
  I have a couple servers running cfmx 6.1 with the cfx_image_mx tag
  installed, however, the latest server is failing to execute the cfx_image_mx
  tag correctly. (Never worked since installation)
  
  There are no cf errors. All I am trying to do is resize the image. Rather
  simple.
  
  The image is being copied w/ the new name rather than being copied  sized
  down. The code is identical on each server so something specific about this
  server is preventing the tag from executing properly.
  
  Any suggestions?
  
  Thanks
  
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Re: CFX_Image_MX

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Churvis
 ImageCR is definitely a consideration as well, especially with SWF output:

Ditto on this, folks.  We use ImageCR from Efflare exclusively on our
projects because of their uncanny ability to highly compress JPGs while
maintaining high definition of the original image.

Not all optimization algorithms are alike, and Efflare proves this.  Their
ImageFlare is also an awesome product.  Worth more than a look.

Respectfully,

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Peter Farrell
Maybe I'm OT here - but I hope this doesn't turn into another Crystal Tech 
Users Beware thread

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Sherwood
It shouldn't.


Peter Farrell wrote:

Maybe I'm OT here - but I hope this doesn't turn into another Crystal Tech 
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Re: OOP development tools

2005-05-02 Thread Adam Haskell
Also check out cfcunit on openXCF very good tool for setting up tests
for your CFCs if you have ever used JUnit in java you will see a
simular concept in CFCunit.

Adam H 

On 5/2/05, Ken Dunnington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Definitely check out CFEclipse. It has great code insight/code
 completion (and even has a way of letting you add your own custom
 insight), a Methods View for CFC's, code folding, and too many other
 features to list here. And it keeps getting better all the time.
 
 On 5/2/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are there any plugins for Homesite+ or Eclipse or some other tool out there
  that can provide code insight for cfc's?  We're working on some Mach II
  sites, and it's a little annoying to have to open up some other file and see
  what the method is named and what types of parameters it takes, etc.  It
  would be great if there was a tool that could parse this kind of stuff and
  be able to automatically tell you the methods that the object has and what
  parameters it expects (sort of like VS).
 
 
 
 

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loop question , seems to be invalid

2005-05-02 Thread David Manriquez
Hi there ppl.

 i have a little problem with this...
 i have a query with name of companies ,selected names are columns of another 
query , and i need to list the values for that names..

 Code Example

 cfloop query=selectCompanies
cfif listlen(valuelist(evaluate(companyDetails.#Acronym#)))
 --- some code here ---
/cfif
 /cfloop 
 
i think valuelist dont support Evaluate in there...

The syntax is valid cause Coldfusion raise Just in time compilation error

Any ideas?... 
  

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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Irvin Gomez
Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.

-Adam

 You're right. It's..um.CF TALK!
 
 Adrocknaphobia wrote:
 
 Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.
 
 -Adam


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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I would tend to agree with Jim. I suspect the marketing decisions in
this case are based largely on their antiscipation of the impact of
different types of marketing on their sales. If they antiscipate
little response (in terms of sales) from flashy adds for ColdFusion
(which is doing well sales-wise with other types of marketing), in
comparison to flashy adds for ... well Flash... then I think it
makes sense to spend the marketing resources in the way that will get
them the most sales.


 Of course there are other ways to look at it:

 CF may be exactly the type of product that won't get
 generated sales from
 such placement.

 CF is a more deliberative product: something that people
 need to study and
 try before choosing.  Breeze and Flash are, well, flashy
 products that,
 with a short web demo may attract managers and buyers on
 that strength.

 You might also just simply say that Flash is the companies
 bread-and-butter.
 It will get top placement more often than not.  However
 Breeze is (from all
 accounts) struggling a bit.  It gets top placement to
 promote it.

 However with no such placement ColdFusion is (from all
 accounts)
 flourishing.  Sales are up, satisfaction is high.

 Why bother dedicating such space to a product that's doing
 just fine without
 it?

 Of course this is all just conjecture, but they seem as
 reasonable
 explanations as anything else I think.

 Jim Davis


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RE: OOP development tools

2005-05-02 Thread Russ
I have tried CFEclipse a few times, but I was less then impressed.  Perhaps
it was my install, but I couldn't get it to work reliably over ftp, and even
the basic code insight was not working half the time.  I couldn't get the
CVS on it to work either.  

I heard a lot of good things about cfeclipse here, and would love to get it
to work the way it's been boasted around here.  Perhaps when I have a little
more free time I'll tinker with the latest version. 

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Ken Dunnington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:46 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OOP development tools

Definitely check out CFEclipse. It has great code insight/code
completion (and even has a way of letting you add your own custom
insight), a Methods View for CFC's, code folding, and too many other
features to list here. And it keeps getting better all the time.

On 5/2/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are there any plugins for Homesite+ or Eclipse or some other tool out
there
 that can provide code insight for cfc's?  We're working on some Mach II
 sites, and it's a little annoying to have to open up some other file and
see
 what the method is named and what types of parameters it takes, etc.  It
 would be great if there was a tool that could parse this kind of stuff and
 be able to automatically tell you the methods that the object has and what
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Re: cfform and checkboxes

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 I like to create a form with checkboxes that list items
 from a database.  I
 store the ID in the value field and handle the list or
 array when it's
 posted.

 I cannot seem to do the same thing with a flash form and
 checkboxes.  It
 won't allow me to instantiate multiple checkboxes with the
 same name. Is
 there a way around this limitation?

Yes and no.

The current version of flash forms doesn't support multiple checkboxes
with the same name, so you'd have to provide a different name for each
checkbox, i.e.

cfinput name=check_#itemid#

Then on the form action page, you would need to loop over the item_id
values from your database again to retreive the results... Or you
could theoretically bind the checkboxes to an ActionScript function
that would update a hidden form field with the values of all the
checked boxes. (I've not worked with the flash forms myself, so I
don't know how difficult that would be to accomplish.)

While this will work (although it's more work in your cf/as code),
unless your list of items from your database is pretty close to
static, this will force the server to recreate the flash movie on each
request, which means loading it will continue to be slow rather than
speeding up after the first request due to the availability of a
cached swf.

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RE: loop question , seems to be invalid

2005-05-02 Thread David Manriquez
Solved :

 You cant  valuelist(evaluate(queryname.#dynamic#))
But you can
  Evaluate(valuelist(queryname.#dynamic#))



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-Mensaje original-
De: David Manriquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Enviado el: Lunes, 02 de Mayo de 2005 12:19
Para: CF-Talk
Asunto: loop question , seems to be invalid

Hi there ppl.

 i have a little problem with this...
 i have a query with name of companies ,selected names are columns of
another query , and i need to list the values for that names..

 Code Example

 cfloop query=selectCompanies
cfif listlen(valuelist(evaluate(companyDetails.#Acronym#)))
 --- some code here ---
/cfif
 /cfloop 
 
i think valuelist dont support Evaluate in there...

The syntax is valid cause Coldfusion raise Just in time compilation error

Any ideas?... 
  



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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Calvin Ward
I think there's entirely too much of this kind of thing on this list. 

I would think our community should be a bit more professional.

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From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.

-Adam

 You're right. It's..um.CF TALK!
 
 Adrocknaphobia wrote:
 
 Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.
 
 -Adam


Totally uncalled for. The guy is making a valid point and this type of
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Re: Triple DES pre cfmx

2005-05-02 Thread Fabio Terracini
I haven't used cfx_crypto, but, since you're using CFMX 6.1, could I 
suggest you to use a Java class?

You might wanna look at javax.crypt package.

--
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Joshua OConnor-Rose wrote:

Anybody ever implement triple DES encryption prior to
CFMX, I've been using cfx_crypto and having no luck .
.. . as far as I can tell.

Unfortunately there are too many black boxes in the
process. And I can't really provide too much detail.

Or if anyone knows that cfx_crypto does what it says
it does then I can stop looking as well. But if those
folks that have experience could provide the
information on padding the string to be encrypted that
would be really great too.

I was going to provide a snippet but that has keys and
links and things that if I remove may still be not
enough to determine anything.

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 -Original Message-
 From: Irvin Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:21 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on
a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.

-Adam

 You're right. It's..um.CF TALK!

 Adrocknaphobia wrote:

 Come on man, cf-talk is not your blog.
 
 -Adam

 Totally uncalled for. The guy is making a valid point and
 this type of personal attack is unwarranted.

I tend to agree although cf-community might have been a more
appropriate forum -- but I'll give that to interpretation. I'm not
personally bothered by it being posted to cf-talk.


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RE: loop question , seems to be invalid

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Solved :

  You cant  valuelist(evaluate(queryname.#dynamic#))
 But you can
   Evaluate(valuelist(queryname.#dynamic#))

Yea, valuelist has always been a tad odd... like parameterexists()...
I wonder that they've never changed it to allow quotes
(valuelist(queryname.#column#)) or that they've never provided a
valueArray() function, since it's pretty popular for people to want to
treat query columns as arrays... I know we can
listtoarray(valuelist(query.column)), except that's more work for the
machine _and_ it removes duplicates... with CF5 using query[column]
worked but with cfmx you have to use query[column].toArray() --
which obviously doesn't work on CF5, so that leaves us with no good
single solution on both versions. I actually went to the extent of
creating a QueryColumnToArray() function to handle the variation...

don't mind me... just thinking abroad...


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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Burns, John D
Yep, definitely using the ## inside of CFLOCATION and the data is right
if I output it on the page or when I put it in a link and do cfabort
right after it. 


John Burns
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer
 

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From: Damien McKenna [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

Things to check:

1. The url in the cflocation has two # signs if its inside a cfoutput
block and one # if it not.

2. The link name and url anchor are exactly the same.

Personally I don't do a cflocation until the data has been validated,
otherwise they are shown the same form again straight away with an error
message.

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RE: Error with cfargument type=numeric order?

2005-05-02 Thread Tom Jordahl
Hi Ben,


 Looks like cfinvoke should be avoided when calling web services.

This is absolutely not true.

I tried your example on CFMX 7 and was unable to reproduce your
behavior. I could change the CFC and the WSDL changed.  I could use the
same invoke (even without refreshing the stubs!) and it worked.  I
refreshed the web service and it still worked.

Be aware that CF jumps through a bunch of hoops to try and match
cfinvoke arguments with the correct function arguments in the proxy
stub.  The CreateObject() syntax gives you a web service object, and you
are then directly calling the proxy function that matches your
arguments.

I see two possibilities:

1. The proxy function you are calling is not getting changed to match
the changes in the web service.
2. The Java skeleton that is created from your CFC and is publishes as
a web service by CF (via the web service engine) is not getting
regenerated, so proxy object generated from the WSDL is not changing.

One thing to check is that the WSDL for the service changes each time
you change your CFC. Do you have trusted cache turned on? If the WSDL
does change, this will eliminate #2.  Then you should make sure you are
refreshing the web service the in CF admin after verifying that the WSDL
has changed.  Check out the 'stubs' directory, do the web service class
files get updated?  If you continue to see the behavior after checking
these things, then we might want to drill further to see if the argument
matching code in CF needs fixing.

P.S. Going on vacation for a week tomorrow, so please CC me directly on
any response as I will be turning off CF-Talk.

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RE: Triple DES pre cfmx

2005-05-02 Thread Tom Jordahl
Note that ColdFusion MX 7 has support for pluggable encryption, so you
can use almost any Java encryption library you want, including the ones
from Sun and BouncyCastle that don't cost anything.

Do a technote search for encryption - the changes didn't make the docs.

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Re: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url, but I do know
that browsers can't accept both a query string and an anchor... if the
url has a query string prior to the anchor, the browser assumes the
anchor is part of the query string. If the url has a query string
following an anchor, the browser assumes the query string is part of
the anchor.

Doesn't sound related to your issue, but what I've done in my own apps
is passed a url variable and then used javascript to set the anchor.

index.cfm?varx=1hash=myanchor

body onload=document.location.hash='#url.hash#';

This is a crude example, but it ought to work. Figured I'd share it,
just in case.


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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Damien McKenna
 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url, but I do know
 that browsers can't accept both a query string and an anchor...

Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at the end,
e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

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How do you get paid?

2005-05-02 Thread Connie DeCinko
How are most of you structuring your payments for a new customer?  Do you
always get a deposit before starting on a site?  Do you get the balance paid
before the site goes live? or within say 10 days after go live?  since you
can always take the site down for non-payment.
 
 
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Re: MX7 + CFFile + Security Sandbox = Error

2005-05-02 Thread Rebecca Wells
OK, I figured out what was wrong... I had to add \* to the end of the directory 
path, like thus 
C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\servers\coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp\*

It's still not clear to me what the difference is between the way that \* and 
\- works. Maybe someone can explain that to me better than the explaination on 
the admin page. Thank you James and Fabio for replying and confirming that I 
was at least on the right track and not just suffering from brain cell loss. 
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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Damien McKenna
 -Original Message-
 From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
 Yep, definitely using the ## inside of CFLOCATION and the 
 data is right if I output it on the page or when I put it in
 a link and do cfabort right after it. 

Check that erroneous spaces, etc, haven't jumped in.  You might also put
in some asserts in there (if you don't have BlueDragon 6.2 do cfif
checkforsomethinggotherecfabort//cfif) to see if something is going
funny in your logic.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url, but
 I do know
 that browsers can't accept both a query string and an
 anchor...

 Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at
 the end,
 e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've
tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky



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Re: MX7 + CFFile + Security Sandbox = Error

2005-05-02 Thread Fabio Terracini
You're welcome Rebecca.

/- means that sandbox will work recursivelly on that directory.

If you sandbox is set up to C:\webroot\-, your application can access 
C:\webroot\site1\, C:\webroot\site2\, C:\webroot\site3\, 
C:\webroot\site3\images\intranet\image.jpg, and so on. Every file in 
every directory below the one you specified with the wildcard -.

But, if you specify C:\webroot\*, your application will only access 
c:\webroot\image.gif, c:\webroot\file.cfm, and will not be granted 
access to acces c:\webroot\site1\ anymore, neither any other file or 
directory in any deeper level.

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Rebecca Wells wrote:

OK, I figured out what was wrong... I had to add \* to the end of the 
directory path, like thus 
C:\CFusionMX7\runtime\servers\coldfusion\SERVER-INF\temp\wwwroot-tmp\*

It's still not clear to me what the difference is between the way that \* and 
\- works. Maybe someone can explain that to me better than the explaination on 
the admin page. Thank you James and Fabio for replying and confirming that I 
was at least on the right track and not just suffering from brain cell loss. 
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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url, but
 I do know
 that browsers can't accept both a query string and an
 anchor...

 Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at
 the end,
 e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've
tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky

So of course, now that you say this it works in both my Moz. browsers
and in IE (6 on WinXP SP 2)... it's been a long time since I tested
it, but I certainly didn't implement the javascript indiscriminately
-- at the time I could not get a cf-server/browser combination to
accept both. (May have been either or both given that the cgi
variables are involved and iirc I hadn't tested since before MX was
released.)


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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Damien McKenna
 -Original Message-
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  Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at
  the end, e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky
 
 I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've
 tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky

You may want to try adding an extra ampersand to separate them then,
e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

According to the RFCs the first example above should work.

http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/8405.htm

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Merrill
  I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url, but
  I do know
  that browsers can't accept both a query string and an
  anchor...

  Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at
  the end,
  e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

 I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've
 tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky

 s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080

FWIW, the following test worked fine on IE6, IE5.5, IE5, Opera754, and
Firefox102, all on win2K:

query_string_and_anchor_test.cfm?last_name=asdffirst_name=qwer#anchor50

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RE: loop question , seems to be invalid

2005-05-02 Thread Rebecca Wells
*snip*treat query columns as arrays... I know we can
listtoarray(valuelist(query.column)), except that's more work for the
machine _and_ it removes duplicates... with CF5 using query[column]
worked but with cfmx you have to use query[column].toArray() --
which obviously doesn't work on CF5, so that leaves us with no good
single solution on both versions. I actually went to the extent of
creating a QueryColumnToArray() function to handle the variation...

Which reminds me... I recently had a debate with someone regarding whether a 
query recordset is a structure in the same sense as the Struct functions work. 
The other person said that the Struct is indexed and will always be more 
efficient, whereas the recordset is not. I thought that a recordset IS a 
structure. Is there really a difference between these 2 types of structures?

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Re: loop question , seems to be invalid

2005-05-02 Thread Fabio Terracini
And what about recordset being accessed like an array: 
ArrayToList(query['column']) ?


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Rebecca Wells wrote:

*snip*treat query columns as arrays... I know we can
listtoarray(valuelist(query.column)), except that's more work for the
machine _and_ it removes duplicates... with CF5 using query[column]
worked but with cfmx you have to use query[column].toArray() --
which obviously doesn't work on CF5, so that leaves us with no good
single solution on both versions. I actually went to the extent of
creating a QueryColumnToArray() function to handle the variation...



Which reminds me... I recently had a debate with someone regarding whether a 
query recordset is a structure in the same sense as the Struct functions work. 
The other person said that the Struct is indexed and will always be more 
efficient, whereas the recordset is not. I thought that a recordset IS a 
structure. Is there really a difference between these 2 types of structures?



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Re: MX7 + CFFile + Security Sandbox = Error

2005-05-02 Thread Rebecca Wells
 You're welcome Rebecca.

Thanks again, Fabio, and Bom Dia!

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Merrill
   Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at
   the end,
   e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky
 
  I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've
  tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky
 
  s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080

 FWIW, the following test worked fine on IE6, IE5.5, IE5, Opera754, and
 Firefox102, all on win2K:

 query_string_and_anchor_test.cfm?last_name=asdffirst_name=qwer#anchor50

Just noticed that if addtoken is true or omitted for cflocate, the cfid and
cftoken that get added to the end of the query string screw up the anchor,
presumably since it's no longer at the end.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 -Original Message-
 From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is
  at
  the end, e.g.:
  http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

 I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every
 browser I've
 tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky

 You may want to try adding an extra ampersand to separate
 them then,
 e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

 According to the RFCs the first example above should work.

 http://www.webmasterworld.com/forum21/8405.htm

Hrm... thanks for the info Damien...

Maybe it just took the browser people a while to catch on, like with
other standards like HTML, CSS and DOM. The date on that RFC is about
the time I started working with ColdFusion (version 3)... Offhand I
honestly don't remember the last time I tested it, so it could have
been before that RFC was widely supported.


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RE: Load Balancing/Filtering?

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Watts
 I have a pool of servers managed by an F5. I'm trying to 
 figure out how I can separate out my traffic such that all 
 CFM requests are delivered to server A and all other types 
 of requests (graphics etc) are sent to server B. What is 
 the best way to do this?

Well, rather than mucking around with the F5 itself, why not use separate
virtual servers for the dynamic and static requests?

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Watts
 When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only 
 marketing on MM's site was a small picture and some text in 
 the center Products column. 
 I surely thought that with the launch of the most exciting 
 and feature rich version of ColdFusion, the product would 
 get top billing on MM's website and be featured in the main 
 animation banner that spans across the page, above the fold.
 
 To my surprise, this never happened. During the launch, Flash 
 Mobile and a few other products were featured in the main 
 animation - many of which were days/weeks old at this point.
 
 Enter Breeze 5. Sure enough, on the day of the announcement, 
 there is a nice banner highlighting product as well as a 
 smaller graphics and text in the center products column. 
 Surely, MM wanted the world to know about Breeze 5, and the 
 website shows it.
 
 Why am I mentioning this? Well, IMHO, it's a subtle but 
 important indicator about MM's view of CFMX. It's not that 
 they won't devote $$ and resources to its continued 
 development, but it's clear that the broader reach products 
 like Breeze and some of the Flash authoring tools will 
 continue to force CFMX to  backstage instead of its 
 rightful place at center stage.
 
 To make things worse, MM and Adobe are set to merge.  With 
 both companies heavily invested in the tools market, CFML's 
 future could be bleak. CMFX won't dissapear, but it's growth 
 in terms of market share AND features could be slowed to an 
 unacceptable pace as MM/Adobe's attention focuses more 
 closely on their cash cow: tools and IDEs.
 
 Sorry for the rant, but I hate to see CFMX get dissed by it's 
 own company!

If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're
doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent
products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about
selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of
thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no
matter how good or popular it is.

Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that
Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing
that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed
on practically everybody's computer.

And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM
site. I don't know how long it was there, though.

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RE: location 26 error COM

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Watts
 I have a strange problem on our production box, which is 
 running CF 5 on w2k server.
 
 I have a COM API installed and working (this was tested by 
 using a VBS script). All my code has been tested on a test 
 box as well and works flawlessly. However on the production 
 box I am getting the Location 26 error which ussually means 
 the server crashed but if i make 2 (nearly) simultaneous 
 request to the server one for the non working COM call and 1 
 to another page on the server the wokring page comes back fine.
 The test  am running is simple:
 
 cfobject action=create type=com class=MyClassj 
 name=MyCOM  cfset bob = MyCOM.ServerLogin(credentials)
 
 cfoject does not bomb the first method call does

Did you run your VBS test script on the production server? Did your VBS
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Little OT but know one else to ask...

2005-05-02 Thread djones
Hello, all...

This is kinda off topic.

I added the CONTS mail object to win2k3 ENT from win2k Adv Srv.  I added it
to the component services interface as a legacy component under IIS Out of
Process Components and gave everyone access to it(behind firewall so not a
huge deal).  It still says access is denied when I try to use it from ASP or
CF... Has anyone ever encounted this problem and how did you fix it?

Thanks,

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Micha Schopman
Well, you made a point, and it wondered me and others too that there was no 
exposure for this on the Macromedia site if I might say power release.
 
Stating it might have to do with flourishing sales, that would be nice but I 
don't think so. CFMX7 can always have extra sales, especially on the moment 
that competitors start gaining more marketshare quicker. 
 
I don't see what is wrong by exchanging the Flash with CFMX banners so you have 
a Breeze / CFMX combination circulating on the website. Flash already has 
pretty much a monopoly and so it would not have damaged marketing for Flash in 
such a way it would have affected Flash, but it would have helped CFMX in a 
very small amount for people navigating to the Macromedia website after the 
news coverage.
 
There must have been a good reason, marketing teams usually don't forget 
placing such banners.
 
I do understand the idea behind this post, looking forward to a merge with 
Adobe where alot of people expect the combination not to give CFMX the 
attention it needs and in return focus even more on Flash/FlashPaper/Breeze. 
 
We'll see what happens. Just wait when they sign the papers, and come out with 
more information like a roadmap for CF (hint).
 
Micha 



From: Alex Sherwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Mon 5/2/2005 5:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?



Paranoid conspiracy theory? What?

Don't put words in my mouth, skippy. My post was a relevant topic on
what I thought was MM's poor exposure of CFMX7 compared to products like
Breeze and Flash Lite.No conspiracies - just facts about marketing
collateral (or lack thereof) displayed on MM's website.

I'm sorry, can you point me to the post where you told people posting
about the MM/Adobe merger to move the posts to their personal blogs?
Where is that post in the archive, because I can't seem to locate
it...can you post the URL?



Adrocknaphobia wrote:

Yes, your rants and paranoid conspiracy theories belong on a personal
blog... for which I will avoid.

-Adam
 





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RE: cfform and checkboxes

2005-05-02 Thread Mark A Kruger
Isaac,

Isaac,

what about the repeater attribute of the cfformgroup - it seems to
indicate that it offers some releif for query driven forms and the recompile
issue.

-Mark

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:30 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cfform and checkboxes


 I like to create a form with checkboxes that list items
 from a database.  I
 store the ID in the value field and handle the list or
 array when it's
 posted.

 I cannot seem to do the same thing with a flash form and
 checkboxes.  It
 won't allow me to instantiate multiple checkboxes with the
 same name. Is
 there a way around this limitation?

Yes and no.

The current version of flash forms doesn't support multiple checkboxes
with the same name, so you'd have to provide a different name for each
checkbox, i.e.

cfinput name=check_#itemid#

Then on the form action page, you would need to loop over the item_id
values from your database again to retreive the results... Or you
could theoretically bind the checkboxes to an ActionScript function
that would update a hidden form field with the values of all the
checked boxes. (I've not worked with the flash forms myself, so I
don't know how difficult that would be to accomplish.)

While this will work (although it's more work in your cf/as code),
unless your list of items from your database is pretty close to
static, this will force the server to recreate the flash movie on each
request, which means loading it will continue to be slow rather than
speeding up after the first request due to the availability of a
cached swf.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
  I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url,
  but
  I do know
  that browsers can't accept both a query string and an
  anchor...

  Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is
  at
  the end,
  e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

 I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every
 browser I've
 tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky

 s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080

 FWIW, the following test worked fine on IE6, IE5.5, IE5,
 Opera754, and
 Firefox102, all on win2K:

 query_string_and_anchor_test.cfm?last_name=asdffirst_name
 =qwer#anchor50

 Dave Merrill

Thanks Dave... IE doesn't particularly surprise me -- I'd be willing
to bet that it's interpretation of URL's is updated from Windows
Update (core windows feature) even when the version of IE is older (IE
being only the display portion which references the OS for its network
connectivity as I understand it). And of course the others are more
recent...

It does remind me that I shouldn't always assume that what I'd seen
before is still true. I can't even say for certain that I'd tested it
since the release of Win2K -- I guess I just never bothered since it
rarely comes up for me and I'd already implemented an easy solution, I
just autopiloted that solution ever since.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Dave Watts
 Maybe it just took the browser people a while to catch on, 
 like with other standards like HTML, CSS and DOM. The date on 
 that RFC is about the time I started working with ColdFusion 
 (version 3)... Offhand I honestly don't remember the last 
 time I tested it, so it could have been before that RFC was 
 widely supported.

The RFC-compliant syntax worked for me when I was using Netscape 2 and IE 3,
for what that's worth.

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Kevin Aebig
Well said. Also, considering the shift in the marketing at MM, its not
surprising that they're moving towards selling to business users and not
developers.

They've already carved out their niche to developers as being the #1 honcho
when it comes to web development tools. Face it, even if they converted the
whole site to be one big banner for Flash, almost everyone on this list
would still use CF.

With alot of their newest products being specifically for business users,
its not surprising that they've chosen to put up a little eye candy...

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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're
doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent
products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about
selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of
thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no
matter how good or popular it is.

Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that
Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing
that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed
on practically everybody's computer.

And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM
site. I don't know how long it was there, though.

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RE: cfform and checkboxes

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Mark,

Mark,

Dunno... I haven't worked with flash forms personally, so my knowledge
of them is limited. I do remember Nimer (who I believe was involved in
developing them) saying that multiple checkboxes with the same name
just wasn't antiscipated in development and so wasn't implemented,
partly because it's not implemented in the engine for Flex that's
responsible for the flash-forms feature set. What that means with
regard to the repeater? Beats me. I haven't used them. :)

Twain,

Twain,

 Isaac,

 Isaac,

 what about the repeater attribute of the cfformgroup -
 it seems to
 indicate that it offers some releif for query driven forms
 and the recompile
 issue.

 -Mark


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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Calvin Ward
For some reason I was thinking that CF should be targeted at business users
as well...

- Calvin

-Original Message-
From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

Well said. Also, considering the shift in the marketing at MM, its not
surprising that they're moving towards selling to business users and not
developers.

They've already carved out their niche to developers as being the #1 honcho
when it comes to web development tools. Face it, even if they converted the
whole site to be one big banner for Flash, almost everyone on this list
would still use CF.

With alot of their newest products being specifically for business users,
its not surprising that they've chosen to put up a little eye candy...

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From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're
doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent
products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about
selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of
thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no
matter how good or popular it is.

Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that
Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing
that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed
on practically everybody's computer.

And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM
site. I don't know how long it was there, though.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
   Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor
   is at
   the end,
   e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky
 
  I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every
  browser I've
  tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky
 
  s. isaac dealey   954.522.6080

 FWIW, the following test worked fine on IE6, IE5.5, IE5,
 Opera754, and
 Firefox102, all on win2K:

 query_string_and_anchor_test.cfm?last_name=asdffirst_nam
 e=qwer#anchor50

 Just noticed that if addtoken is true or omitted for
 cflocate, the cfid and
 cftoken that get added to the end of the query string
 screw up the anchor,
 presumably since it's no longer at the end.

 Dave Merrill

I'd expect the cfid/cftoken string to be appended to the anchor in
that case actually -- so yea, the anchor would be screwed up -- though
the anchor itself would still be at the end, it'd just be inclusive of
that extra value that's not part of the a-name attribute which is why
it wouldn't work.

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Re: Combining verity results with database query

2005-05-02 Thread George Abraham
Anybody?

On 5/2/05, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a verity search result (say VerityResults) that has the key as
 the primary id of a database table. I know that I can use this primary
 id as a parameter for retreiving results from the database like so:
 
 cfquery datasource =thisDSN name=thisQuery
 SELECT *
 FROM thisTable
 WHERE PrimaryID IN (#ValueList(VerityResults.Key),,)#)
 /cfquery
 
 However I would like to order the results in thisQuery as the same as
 thescore of the VerityResults. Is there some elegant way to do this
 without resorting to a queryMerge UDF or somthing like that?
 
 TIA,
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RE: Error with cfargument type=numeric order?

2005-05-02 Thread Ben Mueller
Hi Tom,

First off, thanks for your detailed response.  Hopefully, I'm catching you 
before you leave on vacation.  My comments inline:

Hi Ben,


 Looks like cfinvoke should be avoided when calling web services.

This is absolutely not true.

I tried your example on CFMX 7 and was unable to reproduce your
behavior. I could change the CFC and the WSDL changed.  I could use the
same invoke (even without refreshing the stubs!) and it worked.  I
refreshed the web service and it still worked.

BEN:  I've got CFMX 6.1 (version 6,1,0,83762) running.  I don't know if 
anything changed between my version and CFMX 7



Be aware that CF jumps through a bunch of hoops to try and match
cfinvoke arguments with the correct function arguments in the proxy
stub.  The CreateObject() syntax gives you a web service object, and you
are then directly calling the proxy function that matches your
arguments.

I see two possibilities:

1. The proxy function you are calling is not getting changed to match
the changes in the web service.
2. The Java skeleton that is created from your CFC and is publishes as
a web service by CF (via the web service engine) is not getting
regenerated, so proxy object generated from the WSDL is not changing.

One thing to check is that the WSDL for the service changes each time
you change your CFC. Do you have trusted cache turned on? If the WSDL
does change, this will eliminate #2.  

BEN:  Trusted cache is off for me, and has always been off.

Then you should make sure you are
refreshing the web service the in CF admin after verifying that the WSDL
has changed.  Check out the 'stubs' directory, do the web service class
files get updated?  If you continue to see the behavior after checking
these things, then we might want to drill further to see if the argument
matching code in CF needs fixing.

BEN:  Very interesting.  I found the stubs directory, and found a couple of 
things that seem off.  To preface, I'm making an assumption (perhaps 
incorrectly), that all folders within the stubs folder that start with WS 
are webservices.

1.  There are 13 folders which start with WS in the stubs folder.  yet I 
only have 3 published web services in the CF administrator--one locally on my 
machine, and two remote.  When I was first testing web services, I connected to 
a bunch of public web services that I found on xmethod.  Once I figured out 
what I needed to, I deleted the references to those web services in the CF 
administrator.  I would expect that the related web service info in the stubs 
folder would get deleted as well.  That does not seem to be the case.  Perhaps 
this is correct behavior, but it seems wrong.

2.  Tom, you appear to be right that the web service class files (and all other 
associated files as well) are *not* getting updated when I click the refresh 
button in the CF Admin interface, even if I make changes to my webservice (I've 
added a couple of functions today, for example).  How odd.  Regardless, I am 
still able to access the updated web service and all new functions using the 
createobject method.  I haven't tried to use cfinvoke this morning.



P.S. Going on vacation for a week tomorrow, so please CC me directly on
any response as I will be turning off CF-Talk.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Maybe it just took the browser people a while to catch
 on,
 like with other standards like HTML, CSS and DOM. The
 date on
 that RFC is about the time I started working with
 ColdFusion
 (version 3)... Offhand I honestly don't remember the last
 time I tested it, so it could have been before that RFC
 was
 widely supported.

 The RFC-compliant syntax worked for me when I was using
 Netscape 2 and IE 3,
 for what that's worth.

Strange... maybe my machine was screwed up at the time. I wouldn't
have expected it to affect both browsers though I suppose it's
possible.

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RE: Combining verity results with database query

2005-05-02 Thread Gaulin, Mark
You can try using query of query. This can work ok in many cases.  Use
QueryValueList (or something like that) to extract the primary key
values from the verity results, and then use them to create a db query
that retrieves those rows. Last step is to combine them with q-of-q.
Mark

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From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 2:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Combining verity results with database query

Anybody?

On 5/2/05, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,
 I have a verity search result (say VerityResults) that has the key as
 the primary id of a database table. I know that I can use this primary
 id as a parameter for retreiving results from the database like so:
 
 cfquery datasource =thisDSN name=thisQuery
 SELECT *
 FROM thisTable
 WHERE PrimaryID IN (#ValueList(VerityResults.Key),,)#)
 /cfquery
 
 However I would like to order the results in thisQuery as the same as
 thescore of the VerityResults. Is there some elegant way to do this
 without resorting to a queryMerge UDF or somthing like that?
 
 TIA,
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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Alex Sherwood
Dave Watts wrote:

 If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're

doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent
products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about
selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of
thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no
matter how good or popular it is.

Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that
Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing
that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed
on practically everybody's computer.

And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM
site. I don't know how long it was there, though.
  

I didn't see one at all. Again, my point was there was next to NOTHING 
on the MM front page, especially the top banner, during the 2 weeks 
after the release. Putting a CFMX 7 banner at the top in a rotation of 
two or three other banners wouldn't kill Flash and Flash based products.

I just thought it was odd that there was NADA, ZILCH, NOTHING.

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CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Robert Munn
As goes Flash, so goes Macromedia/Adobe. If FlashLite makes them the next titan 
of the software industry, they will have plenty of money to spend on developing 
products like CFMX. 

Think about it this way. Microsoft existed for the last ten years on the dual 
monopolies of Windows and Office, and they used the revenues from those giants 
to get into all kinds of other businesses- games, hardware, corporate services, 
web sites, interactive TV, server products- just about anything you can think 
of. Just think what MM/Adobe will be able to do if they own the document 
standard, the RIA standard, and the means to deliver documents and RIAs via CF, 
Flash Remoting, Breeze, Flex, and whatever else comes next. So be happy that 
they have a product that reaches a significant chunk of the planet's 
population. Revenues from that product may just be funding the next version of 
CF.

Why am I mentioning this? Well, IMHO, it's a subtle but important 
indicator about MM's view of CFMX. It's not that they won't devote $$ 
and resources to its continued development, but it's clear that the 
broader reach products like Breeze and some of the Flash authoring 
tools will continue to force CFMX to  backstage instead of its 
rightful place at center stage.

To make things worse, MM and Adobe are set to merge.  With both 
companies heavily invested in the tools market, CFML's future could be 
bleak. CMFX won't dissapear, but it's growth in terms of market share 
AND features could be slowed to an unacceptable pace as MM/Adobe's 
attention focuses more closely on their cash cow: tools and IDEs.

Sorry for the rant, but I hate to see CFMX get dissed by it's own company!

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RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread Micha Schopman
They do, features like the reporting tool and the event gateway are aimed 
towards business users. I have used Crystal Reports alot, and everytime there 
were always large bugs or consistencies in the product. There are other 
products yes and Oracle offers a superior product but that comes with a 
superior price too. It was a relief when the CF report builder was released.
 
Such functionality always does it well in business environments, managers kill 
for. I switched reporting the provision sheets, I create at the end of each 
project, from Crystal Reports to the CF reports builder.
 
Although Flash is the unique product of Macromedia like Dave mentioned, I don't 
think it really helps Flash in marketing as it would have helped ColdFusion. 
Flash already has the market, ColdFusion obviously does not. If Flash has a new 
feature/version/player, sure do marketing. If no other product needs extra 
attention, sure do marketing for Flash. But when the need is there do marketing 
for ColdFusion.
 
Micha
 



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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?



For some reason I was thinking that CF should be targeted at business users
as well...

- Calvin

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From: Kevin Aebig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:55 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

Well said. Also, considering the shift in the marketing at MM, its not
surprising that they're moving towards selling to business users and not
developers.

They've already carved out their niche to developers as being the #1 honcho
when it comes to web development tools. Face it, even if they converted the
whole site to be one big banner for Flash, almost everyone on this list
would still use CF.

With alot of their newest products being specifically for business users,
its not surprising that they've chosen to put up a little eye candy...

Kevin

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To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

If I were in charge of Macromedia, I'd do exactly the same thing they're
doing. I'd be far more concerned about selling Flash and its dependent
products (Breeze, Flex, FlashComm, Flash Video, FlashLite, etc) than about
selling CF. I like CF, don't get me wrong, but it's not the unique kind of
thing that Flash is. It will always be somewhat of a niche product, no
matter how good or popular it is.

Flash, on the other hand, is clearly the most important asset that
Macromedia has. It is the core of Macromedia's business. It is the one thing
that Macromedia has, for which there's no competing product. It's installed
on practically everybody's computer.

And, at some point, I do recall seeing a CF 7 banner at the top of the MM
site. I don't know how long it was there, though.

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Dealing with unworkable query column names

2005-05-02 Thread Jim McAtee
I'm trying to query a MySQL 3.23 database to get table names that match a 
naming pattern.  Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be any way to alias 
the column name returned, plus the name contains both a space and the 
percent sign used in my original SQL statement.  Also, the syntax of SHOW 
TABLES doesn't permit column aliasing.  The column name generated by the 
code example below ends up being

TABLES_IN_LIVESTATS (SERVER%_DEMOGRAPHICS)


cfquery datasource=livestats name=q
SHOW TABLES like 'server%_demographics'
/cfquery
cfoutput
Query Columns: #q.ColumnList#
cfloop query=q
  cfset tblname = Evaluate(q.  q.columnList)
  #tblname#br
/cfloop
/cfoutput


The error I receive from CF is:
-
An error occurred while evaluating the expression:


 tblname = Evaluate(q.  q.columnList)


Error near line 23, column 9. An error has occurred while processing the 
expression:
   q.TABLES_IN_LIVESTATS (SERVER%_DEMOGRAPHICS)

Invalid token found on line 1 at position 30. ColdFusion was looking at 
the following text:

%Invalid expression element. The usual cause of this error is a 
misspelling in the expression text.

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Is there an alternative method for addressing query columns, say, similar 
to using array notation when addressing the rows of a query?




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Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?

2005-05-02 Thread John Dowdell
Jim Davis wrote:
 However Breeze is (from all accounts) struggling a bit.

Breeze sales are actually exceeding expectations... like Contribute, 
both of these are being significantly invested in by people who don't 
normally write on web-developer mailing lists.

I don't know how many sales a front-page SWF spot generates, but as Jim 
wrote, it likely varies by who uses a tool, and what they actually are 
seeking to discover about it when they visit the site.

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Scheduled task creates a session

2005-05-02 Thread Marlon Moyer
I was just experimenting around with the unsupported sessiontracker
object and was surprised to see that my scheduled task was creating a
session every 3 minutes when it ran.  Considering my session timeouts
timeouts are set at 4 hours, that's a lot of extraneous sessions held
in memory.  What can I do to keep this from happening?  I'd put
another application.cfm file in the task subdir, but I need objects
from the root application.cfm to be instantiated.  Is there a way to
specify to kill the current session?

Thanks

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RE: Scheduled task creates a session

2005-05-02 Thread Ian Skinner
You can per template create shorter session timeouts.  So in your schedule task 
templates add a cfapplication that sets a desired timeout for those templates 
only.


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-Original Message-
From: Marlon Moyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Scheduled task creates a session

I was just experimenting around with the unsupported sessiontracker
object and was surprised to see that my scheduled task was creating a
session every 3 minutes when it ran.  Considering my session timeouts
timeouts are set at 4 hours, that's a lot of extraneous sessions held
in memory.  What can I do to keep this from happening?  I'd put
another application.cfm file in the task subdir, but I need objects
from the root application.cfm to be instantiated.  Is there a way to
specify to kill the current session?

Thanks

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Re: Scheduled task creates a session

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 I was just experimenting around with the unsupported
 sessiontracker
 object and was surprised to see that my scheduled task was
 creating a
 session every 3 minutes when it ran.  Considering my
 session timeouts
 timeouts are set at 4 hours, that's a lot of extraneous
 sessions held
 in memory.  What can I do to keep this from happening?
 I'd put
 another application.cfm file in the task subdir, but I
 need objects
 from the root application.cfm to be instantiated.  Is
 there a way to
 specify to kill the current session?

 Thanks

 Marlon

Add this to all your scheduled tasks:

scheduled=true

then this in your application.cfm

cfparam name=url.scheduled type=boolean default=false
cfapplication sessionmanagement=#not url.scheduled#

Just make sure your scheduled task pages don't reference any session
variables.

Or... optionally, you could explicitly declare a cftoken  cfid pair
in the scheduled task url's, which would cause them all to share a
single session.

Neither of which I've tested, just throwing out ideas.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Burns, John D
Well, I know that's not true because it's working on some cflocation
tags with a query string and an anchor.  At least, it works on IE 6.
That's the weirdest thing is that there are other items on the same page
that work fine doing the EXACT same code, but not this one.  I can't
tell if it's a CF problem, a fusebox problem, an HTML problem or a
combination of some sort.


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-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Anchors and CFLOCATION

I'm not certain about the missing anchor in the url, but I do know that
browsers can't accept both a query string and an anchor... if the url
has a query string prior to the anchor, the browser assumes the anchor
is part of the query string. If the url has a query string following an
anchor, the browser assumes the query string is part of the anchor.

Doesn't sound related to your issue, but what I've done in my own apps
is passed a url variable and then used javascript to set the anchor.

index.cfm?varx=1hash=myanchor

body onload=document.location.hash='#url.hash#';

This is a crude example, but it ought to work. Figured I'd share it,
just in case.


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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Burns, John D
That's the weird thing.  I moved the URL for the cflocation to an a
href=... tag, followed by a cfabort and it works as expected.  That
way, I know I'm in the right cfif statement and I know all of the URL
variables are being written as expected.  Does CF do anything when doing
a cflocation where it may strip or append items to the string?  I have
the addtoken attribute set to no and the tokens aren't being added, I'm
just curious if maybe CF screws with the URLs and forgets to put stuff
back. 


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Subject: RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

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 From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Yep, definitely using the ## inside of CFLOCATION and the data is 
 right if I output it on the page or when I put it in a link and do 
 cfabort right after it.

Check that erroneous spaces, etc, haven't jumped in.  You might also put
in some asserts in there (if you don't have BlueDragon 6.2 do cfif
checkforsomethinggotherecfabort//cfif) to see if something is going
funny in your logic.

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RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Burns, John D
Yep, tried the extra  as well :-( I've got about 4 of my fellow
developers stumped on the problem here too. 


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  Yeah they can, you just have to make sure the anchor is at the end, 
  e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky
 
 I've never had any luck accomplishing that -- in every browser I've 
 tested, I end up with a url variable foo = bar#linky

You may want to try adding an extra ampersand to separate them then,
e.g.: http://www.mysite.com/index.cfm?foo=bar#linky

According to the RFCs the first example above should work.

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Re: Scheduled task creates a session

2005-05-02 Thread Marlon Moyer
Thanks, from your email and Ian's, I figured out how to do it.  At the
top of my application.cfm ,I've got the line cfset set_session =
cgi.http_user_agent neq CFSCHEDULE  works perfectly.  I had no idea
you could set the session management on the fly.  I figured as soon as
you turned off session management, it would turn off all active
sessions.

thanks again.

On 5/2/05, S. Isaac Dealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I was just experimenting around with the unsupported
  sessiontracker
  object and was surprised to see that my scheduled task was
  creating a
  session every 3 minutes when it ran.  Considering my
  session timeouts
  timeouts are set at 4 hours, that's a lot of extraneous
  sessions held
  in memory.  What can I do to keep this from happening?
  I'd put
  another application.cfm file in the task subdir, but I
  need objects
  from the root application.cfm to be instantiated.  Is
  there a way to
  specify to kill the current session?
 
  Thanks
 
  Marlon
 
 Add this to all your scheduled tasks:
 
 scheduled=true
 
 then this in your application.cfm
 
 cfparam name=url.scheduled type=boolean default=false
 cfapplication sessionmanagement=#not url.scheduled#
 
 Just make sure your scheduled task pages don't reference any session
 variables.
 
 Or... optionally, you could explicitly declare a cftoken  cfid pair
 in the scheduled task url's, which would cause them all to share a
 single session.
 
 Neither of which I've tested, just throwing out ideas.
 
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RE: Error with cfargument type=numeric order?

2005-05-02 Thread Tom Jordahl
Ben,

 BEN:  I've got CFMX 6.1 (version 6,1,0,83762) running.  I don't know
if
 anything changed between my version and CFMX 7

Yes, there were many changes in web services from 6.1 to 7.

 BEN:  Very interesting.  I found the stubs directory, and found a
couple
 of things that seem off.  To preface, I'm making an assumption
(perhaps
 incorrectly), that all folders within the stubs folder that start
with
 WS are webservices.

I would just deleted everything in the stubs directory, restart the
server, and see if thing start making more sense.

I can believe there were bugs fixed from 6.1 to 7 in this area, but I
would have done the fixing and I don't remember anything like this.

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Re: Dealing with unworkable query column names

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
Ouch... I'm glad I don't have to deal with that schema...

But you don't want to use evaluate anyway... plus, unless the table
only has one column, this won't work anyway: tblname = Evaluate(q. 
q.columnList) -- q.columnlist is a comma delimited list of the column
names, so you would be trying to say
evaluate(q.first,last,middle,bloodtype) which won't work...

you want to use array notation:

cfoutput query=q
  cfloop index=colname list=#q.columnlist#
#q[colname]#
  /cfloop
/cfoutput

hth



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Re: Scheduled task creates a session

2005-05-02 Thread S . Isaac Dealey
 Thanks, from your email and Ian's, I figured out how to do
 it.  At the
 top of my application.cfm ,I've got the line cfset
 set_session =
 cgi.http_user_agent neq CFSCHEDULE  works perfectly.  I
 had no idea
 you could set the session management on the fly.  I
 figured as soon as
 you turned off session management, it would turn off all
 active
 sessions.

 thanks again.

Heh... you learn something new every day. :) I never need scheduled
tasks for my stuff, so I guess it never even occurred to me that
cgi.http_user_agent would indicate when a scheduled task is run.

You're welcome btw. :)

You can also use cfapplication within a page to drop into other
applications on your server to get their information... in say an
application-manager type thing... just put your vars for the manager
app in request and drop into the individaul application to get its app
data.


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new epoch : isn't it time for a change?

add features without fixtures with
the onTap open source framework

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Re: Anchors and CFLOCATION

2005-05-02 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Burns, John D wrote:
 Well, I know that's not true because it's working on some cflocation
 tags with a query string and an anchor.  At least, it works on IE 6.
 That's the weirdest thing is that there are other items on the same page
 that work fine doing the EXACT same code, but not this one.  I can't
 tell if it's a CF problem, a fusebox problem, an HTML problem or a
 combination of some sort.

Have you traced the HTTP headers? Do you have a URL?

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looking for an advanced Web Form Macro?

2005-05-02 Thread David Manriquez
 Hi ppl...

 don't know how you are testing complex Forms... 
 i looking for a somthing like a Macro Recorder for complex  Forms/Sites.

 i spent hours to test some of my sites , looking for errores for all 
posibilities what forms offer to the users..

 will be really nifty i we can use a tool for this.. 
 like , selecting random options for a form.. etc...
 i was using Web Stress Tool from microsft but never felt really comfortable 
with that tool.

 Anyone knows something else like this?

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RE: New Development Libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Stan Winchester
Thank you for making these libraries available! I hope to download your 
libraries, look at the example apps and try out your libraries very soon. Your 
licensing looks like I can use your libraries in commercial applications (i.e.; 
no GPL infections)

Thanks, Stan Winchester

What no comments?  Not one?  Come on, have I embarrassed myself THAT badly?
;^)

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RE: AV on CF servers

2005-05-02 Thread Emmet McGovern
F-Prot is pretty nice with some very simple command line features as well.
We use it for incoming attachments on one server.

-e

-Original Message-
From: Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 3:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: AV on CF servers

Now.

What do you guys use for AV on CF servers?  May have to rethink Symantec.

Running Windows 2003 SP1, IIS 6, CF 6.1 (soon to be 7)

Jacob




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RE: New Development Libraries

2005-05-02 Thread Jim Davis
 Thank you for making these libraries available! I hope to download 
 your libraries, look at the example apps and try out your libraries 
 very soon. Your licensing looks like I can use your libraries in 
 commercial applications (i.e.; no GPL infections)

Thanks.

Right now, I'm sorry - but examples are far and few between (that will change 
soon).  If you get a chance let me know where examples would be most 
appreciated and I'll address them first.  For now feel free to request examples 
from me directly - you'll get them, just without documentation.

As for the licensing they are all under the Open BSD license.  It's an OSI 
Certified license with VERY FEW restrictions.  In short you may fold, spindle 
and mutilate. ;^)

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