RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION
Use firefox and liveHttpHeaders to track them. -Original Message- From: Burns, John D [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 May 2005 22:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Anchors and CFLOCATION I haven't traced the headers yet. That was the next step I was going to follow. What would you suggest for doing this? CF or do you have another tool? The URL is internal so I can't pass it along. Believe me, I wish I could :-) John Burns Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Wyle Laboratories, Inc. | Web Developer -Original Message- From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 3:12 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Anchors and CFLOCATION Burns, John D wrote: Well, I know that's not true because it's working on some cflocation tags with a query string and an anchor. At least, it works on IE 6. That's the weirdest thing is that there are other items on the same page that work fine doing the EXACT same code, but not this one. I can't tell if it's a CF problem, a fusebox problem, an HTML problem or a combination of some sort. Have you traced the HTTP headers? Do you have a URL? Jochem ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205351 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Little OT but know one else to ask...
oops - wrong thread! /t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 11:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Little OT but know one else to ask... Thanks, but I'm not sure that this pertains to my question. I was asking about the CDONTS send mail program included with windows 2000 server. I tried copying it to windows 2003 but cant get it to run. It tells me access is denied. Thanks, David -Original Message- From: RADEMAKERS Tanguy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 4:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Little OT but know one else to ask... tried answering this from the HOF website, but no joy... check out a product called Badboy (badboy.com.au) - it allows you to record website visits and then script them for testing. It can also export these scripts to Apache JMeter (jakarta.apache.org) which supports extra scripting and automation. JMeter can be a little dicey to set up at first, but once you've got it running it's pretty sweet. Otherwise, there's a product called winrunner that our QA dept. uses, but i think it's expensive. /t -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 9:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Little OT but know one else to ask... ok, I just noticed that I spell NO as KNOW in the subject. So please don't flame me... ;-) David -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Little OT but know one else to ask... Hello, all... This is kinda off topic. I added the CONTS mail object to win2k3 ENT from win2k Adv Srv. I added it to the component services interface as a legacy component under IIS Out of Process Components and gave everyone access to it(behind firewall so not a huge deal). It still says access is denied when I try to use it from ASP or CF... Has anyone ever encounted this problem and how did you fix it? Thanks, David ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205352 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
CF Error weirdness
This is a strange and frustrating problem, I have successfully implemented cferror on our linux staging server, the problem is that the exact same code seems to be getting completely ignored on the clients linux staging server. What I am wondering is if there are any settings within cfide admin that disable cferror? If not any other suggestions will be more than welcome as I am completly stumped on this one and have had no responses in other coldfusion forums. Cheers, Mike. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CF Error weirdness
Mike, Do they perchance have a site wide eror handler defined in the Settings section? /t -Original Message- From: Michael Bramwell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:25 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF Error weirdness This is a strange and frustrating problem, I have successfully implemented cferror on our linux staging server, the problem is that the exact same code seems to be getting completely ignored on the clients linux staging server. What I am wondering is if there are any settings within cfide admin that disable cferror? If not any other suggestions will be more than welcome as I am completly stumped on this one and have had no responses in other coldfusion forums. Cheers, Mike. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205354 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: OOP development tools
I agree, make sure you express that one here: http://www.macromedia.com/go/wish/ I would think your best bet is to put it under Dreamweaver. Thanks, Calvin -Original Message- From: Russ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: OOP development tools I'm sure those are great... but what I really want is code insight... Why can't there be a plugin that read in my cfc's, parses them and whenever I try to call a method on it, to help me out with method names. Or something that knows what the current class is inheriting from and what methods I can call on myself. These things are present in Visual Studio (I believe) and would make coding OOP much easier (and perhaps the cf world would follow quicker to the OOP model rather then writing spaghetti code). -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:01 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: OOP development tools On 5/2/05, Russ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have tried CFEclipse a few times, but I was less then impressed. Perhaps it was my install, but I couldn't get it to work reliably over ftp, and even the basic code insight was not working half the time. I couldn't get the CVS on it to work either. Eclipse's support for FTP is pretty bare (that's the underlying Eclipse, not CFEclipse). CVS ought to work just fine - it's core to Eclipse and rock solid. CFEclipse brings a great method view panel which saves you scrolling through the code. Of course you could just use the (built into CFMX) cfcexplorer in the CF Admin - or one of the third party CFC doc tools to see web pages generated from the source code without having to open the file... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205355 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
I did see the promo badge for CFMX 7 during release time, but what was disappointing was that CFMX 7 didn't get the full FMA for the week of release, or even the day of release. AFAIK, nothing else was released or 'new' at the same time. The full ads I rotated through were for things that had ads up for the previous month(s) and even after. I visit macromedia.com a lot, as I use Flash, Dreamweaver, Fireworks as well as ColdFusion. - Calvin -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:22 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? On 5/2/05, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column. I just spoke with the web producer responsible for managing ColdFusion-related content on the site. He said that the blue speedometer promo badge for CFMX 7 was featured on the homepage (and you'll have seen it all over the CF-related pages on the site). He also said that certain international macromedia.com homepages included a full FMA (rotating banner ad) for CFMX 7. Remember that Macromedia has a lot of products and therefore a lot of competition for FMA and promo badge space - marketing has to balance each and every campaign in order to get the most bang for their buck, so to speak... note type=purely personal I get pretty ticked off by certain CFers feeling slighted every time that Flash or Breeze or whatever gets a mention but CF is not mentioned in the same article. Someone recently complained that the news article about Flash on mobiles (Stephen Elop's piece, I think) didn't mention ColdFusion but did mention Dreamweaver. It was a news item aimed at the business market and so it pushed the business value of Flash on mobiles and mentioned a reference point that those business users might recognize (Dreamweaver). There would have been no point in mentioning CF in such an article. Try not to get blinded by your own personal evangelism about CF (or any other technology)! /note And, yes, stop being so paranoid, OK? :) -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205356 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfeclipse and cfmx7
any chance there will be an update that handles v7.0 tag insights, etc.. ? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Triangle Area ColdFusion User Group ]-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ http://tacfug.org ]-= ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205357 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfeclipse and cfmx7
That'd be nice! I've noticed that the cfeclipse group has been quiet lately... - Calvin -Original Message- From: Phillip P Rutherford II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:04 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: cfeclipse and cfmx7 any chance there will be an update that handles v7.0 tag insights, etc.. ? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Triangle Area ColdFusion User Group ]-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ http://tacfug.org ]-= ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205358 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
SOT: DW error msgs
Can anyone tell me why I'm suddenly getting errors in DW anytime I try to paste something? While executine onLoad in PaseFireworksHTML.htm, the following JavaScript error(s) occurred: In file PasteFireworksHTML; ReferenceError: initialize is not defined I get that error twice every time I try to paste something into a document. I also get the following error anytime I shut down the program: While executing onLoad in TeamAdminTempDelete.html, the following JavaScript error(s) occurred: In file :TeamAdminTempDelete; ReferenceError: delTempFile is not defined Anybody have any ideas? Cutter ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205359 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
level 1, level 2
I have a directory on my site which is basically a site in itself. There, I am building a template. In this template is a header with images and links. The problem is that the path to those images and links changes depending on whether the file the header is in is down one level or two or none. This changes the path to: images/ or ../images/ or .../../images/. The same goes for the links. To accommodate that, I've been building a header for each level, header_1, header_2, header_n. This doesn't seem to be an efficient way to go about it. What's a better way? -- Daniel Kessler Department of Public and Community Health University of Maryland Suite 2387 Valley Drive College Park, MD 20742-2611 301-405-2545 Phone www.phi.umd.edu ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205360 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Well put. A rotating banner on MM's site is probably the least effective marketing they could have for CF. Does everyone already forget the grueling world tour they sent Ben on before the release of 7. I don't think I've ever seen a tour like that for any other MM product before. The sky isn't falling. Your career does not rest on a rotating flash ad. -Adam On 5/2/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/05, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column. I just spoke with the web producer responsible for managing ColdFusion-related content on the site. He said that the blue speedometer promo badge for CFMX 7 was featured on the homepage (and you'll have seen it all over the CF-related pages on the site). He also said that certain international macromedia.com homepages included a full FMA (rotating banner ad) for CFMX 7. Remember that Macromedia has a lot of products and therefore a lot of competition for FMA and promo badge space - marketing has to balance each and every campaign in order to get the most bang for their buck, so to speak... note type=purely personal I get pretty ticked off by certain CFers feeling slighted every time that Flash or Breeze or whatever gets a mention but CF is not mentioned in the same article. Someone recently complained that the news article about Flash on mobiles (Stephen Elop's piece, I think) didn't mention ColdFusion but did mention Dreamweaver. It was a news item aimed at the business market and so it pushed the business value of Flash on mobiles and mentioned a reference point that those business users might recognize (Dreamweaver). There would have been no point in mentioning CF in such an article. Try not to get blinded by your own personal evangelism about CF (or any other technology)! /note And, yes, stop being so paranoid, OK? :) -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205361 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New Development Libraries
Not to leave you hanging Jim, but I plan to find some time to read everything you've got on DP. Don't let the silence discourage you. (I've assimilated many of your coding practices you've shared in the past few years into my baseline). Did you post the announcement to cf-dev? -Adam On 5/2/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for making these libraries available! I hope to download your libraries, look at the example apps and try out your libraries very soon. Your licensing looks like I can use your libraries in commercial applications (i.e.; no GPL infections) Thanks. Right now, I'm sorry - but examples are far and few between (that will change soon). If you get a chance let me know where examples would be most appreciated and I'll address them first. For now feel free to request examples from me directly - you'll get them, just without documentation. As for the licensing they are all under the Open BSD license. It's an OSI Certified license with VERY FEW restrictions. In short you may fold, spindle and mutilate. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205362 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
/images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal -Original Message- From: Daniel Kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 14:57 To: CF-Talk Subject: level 1, level 2 I have a directory on my site which is basically a site in itself. There, I am building a template. In this template is a header with images and links. The problem is that the path to those images and links changes depending on whether the file the header is in is down one level or two or none. This changes the path to: images/ or ../images/ or .../../images/. The same goes for the links. To accommodate that, I've been building a header for each level, header_1, header_2, header_n. This doesn't seem to be an efficient way to go about it. What's a better way? -- Daniel Kessler Department of Public and Community Health University of Maryland Suite 2387 Valley Drive College Park, MD 20742-2611 301-405-2545 Phone www.phi.umd.edu ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205363 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Options to use instead of mappings?
I have pretty much consistently used mappings in my applications to include things from the document root, regardless of where the file being accessed is located. I often do it for UDFs and template files. Ie, cfinclude template=/rickroot/udf.cfm or cfinclude template=/rickroot/above.cfm !--- body content --- cfinclude template=/rickroot/above.cfm What are my options if I choose NOT to use mappings? For example, my blog application dynamically creates files in subdirectories, and currently includes the root index.cfm using a cfinclude tag with the mapping. The index.cfm will not always be in the document root, but it will always be 3 directories ABOVE the specific file in question. The index.cfm itself also uses cfinclude to include the template files, as exampled above. Thanks! Rick Root ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205364 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: level 1, level 2
Use Dreamweaver Templates? They'll automatically resolve any paths and you only need to create one master template. Then just save it wherever you want, and let Dreamweaver take care of all the hassle of keeping up with whatever directories something resides in. We have several sites built the same way, with generic pages that will reside in various levels. We have just one template derfined for the site, and all you do is go File New... and select whatever templates are defined for the site. Easy as pie. I have a directory on my site which is basically a site in itself. There, I am building a template. In this template is a header with images and links. The problem is that the path to those images and links changes depending on whether the file the header is in is down one level or two or none. This changes the path to: images/ or ../images/ or .../../images/. The same goes for the links. To accommodate that, I've been building a header for each level, header_1, header_2, header_n. This doesn't seem to be an efficient way to go about it. What's a better way? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205365 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
Wouldn't /images/ refer to the images directory on the root level? This is a directory within and the whole site is there. In what way would I define a variable for a path to the images. It would seem to me that the variable would have to change just like the header. Can you give me a small example? sorry to be dense about it. /images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal better ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205366 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: level 1, level 2
Does this work well with cfincluded files too? Use Dreamweaver Templates? They'll automatically resolve any paths and you only need to create one master template. Then just save it wherever you want, and let Dreamweaver take care of all the hassle of keeping up with whatever directories something resides in. We have several sites built the same way, with generic pages that will reside in various levels. We have just one template derfined for the site, and all you do is go File New... and select whatever templates are defined for the site. Easy as pie. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205367 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Sean Corfield wrote: On 5/2/05, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column. I just spoke with the web producer responsible for managing ColdFusion-related content on the site. He said that the blue speedometer promo badge for CFMX 7 was featured on the homepage (and you'll have seen it all over the CF-related pages on the site). He also said that certain international macromedia.com homepages included a full FMA (rotating banner ad) for CFMX 7. Remember that Macromedia has a lot of products and therefore a lot of competition for FMA and promo badge space - marketing has to balance each and every campaign in order to get the most bang for their buck, so to speak... Absolute, unabated hogwash. Notice I wasn't asking why CFMX didn't get top billing 100% of the time, I was asking why CFMX 0% exposure at the top of the page. If I recall correctly, it was that same old tired Volvo banner that ran for WEEKS before the launch of CFM that was still showing. Are you telling me that showing the CFMX banner to 1 in 5 visitors would hurt the sales of the products?! note type=purely personal I get pretty ticked off by certain CFers feeling slighted every time that Flash or Breeze or whatever gets a mention but CF is not mentioned in the same article. Someone recently complained that the news article about Flash on mobiles (Stephen Elop's piece, I think) didn't mention ColdFusion but did mention Dreamweaver. It was a news item aimed at the business market and so it pushed the business value of Flash on mobiles and mentioned a reference point that those business users might recognize (Dreamweaver). There would have been no point in mentioning CF in such an article. Try not to get blinded by your own personal evangelism about CF (or any other technology)! /note And, yes, stop being so paranoid, OK? :) Forgive me for being a little obtuse here, Sean, but this, too, is drivel. The comparison is totally irrelevent. I was referring to a product CREATED BY Macromedia, MARKETED by Macromedia and SOLD by Macromedia. I wasn't suggesting that MACR mention CFMX on the Flash product pages. Nor was I stating that CFMX should be mentioned in the same breath as Flash or other IDE tools. I just found it odd that on the launch day of a brand new server product, hyped for MONTHS with all kinds of hush-hush NDAs and the like, that it woul get more than a 60x60 pixel image of a speedometer to launch it. I think the lack of fanfare reflects MM's view of the product, and what direction it would take when Adobe takes over. No paranoia here, just some observations from someone who's used ColdFusion from the 3.0 days. Good day. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205368 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
In the application.cfm, you can set a variable that holds the absolute path to the image folder (or the path starting from the root). Then use that variable when you need the path to an image. I usually create a structure that holds parameters that depend on the server. Something like: request.app.dsn request.app.imgFolder request.app.rootFolder request.app.rootUrl request.app.mapping I create them in a separate file that I include in the application.cfm. I have a different file for every server (local, dev, staging, prod, ) where the application is deployed. -Original Message- From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: level 1, level 2 Wouldn't /images/ refer to the images directory on the root level? This is a directory within and the whole site is there. In what way would I define a variable for a path to the images. It would seem to me that the variable would have to change just like the header. Can you give me a small example? sorry to be dense about it. /images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205369 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: level 1, level 2
Does this work well with cfincluded files too? Heck yeah. It's tight. Check this out... http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/templates.html We're finding it's slowly replacing a LOT of overhead work that's just completely needless now. What were convoluted workarounds are now just easy, simple, template files with template functionality. We've taken huge, enterprise sites (think Hospitals, etc) and made them so easy a child could update them, saving us HUGE amounts of time. Let Dreamweaver do all the work. Not me. I'm totally converted. It was like a revelation how easy it was to create, and how equally easy it was to implement. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205370 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: level 1, level 2
Does this work well with cfincluded files too? In particular, check this specific article out. http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/dreamweaver/articles/ssi_templates.html It uses navigational includes as the basis of the tutorial...to quote: Wouldn't it be nice if you had several includes, each containing a different navigation method, that your site maintainers could use with templates in Macromedia Contribute and Dreamweaver MX? This tutorial shows you how you can do this and implement it with any server include document type (SHTML, CFML, PHP, ASP, JSP, and ASPX). Please note that since each language has its own include syntax and you must adjust this methodology accordingly. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205371 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: SOT: DW error msgs
Dreamweaver allows you to create functionality by providing xml and html documents you can modify which include DOM methods to accomplish the various tasks... The structure of the menus for instance is in an XML file and then each menu item has an associated html document containing the method to execute when that menu item is selected. Something similar happens in the editor which is used for plugins designed to provide a convenient way to insert different types of content into your document. (I believe this is popular amongst the crowd of developers who use Dreamweaver like FrontPage.) You might want to uninstall any plugins you've installed recently. If that doesn't help, you may need to try reinstalling Dreamweaver, but you could check the file manually first as well to see if you can spot if it's corrupted. Do a search for files named PasteFireworksHTML in c:\documents and settings\[user]\application data\Macromedia\dreamweaver or the equivalent Mac directory. hth Can anyone tell me why I'm suddenly getting errors in DW anytime I try to paste something? While executine onLoad in PaseFireworksHTML.htm, the following JavaScript error(s) occurred: In file PasteFireworksHTML; ReferenceError: initialize is not defined I get that error twice every time I try to paste something into a document. I also get the following error anytime I shut down the program: While executing onLoad in TeamAdminTempDelete.html, the following JavaScript error(s) occurred: In file :TeamAdminTempDelete; ReferenceError: delTempFile is not defined Anybody have any ideas? Cutter s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205372 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfform problems with IE on Mac
We're developing an application that uses flash-format cfforms. It looks great on IE on Windows, Firefox on Windows and Safari on Mac, but not IE on Mac. For some reason with IE on the Mac (Panther 10.9) the server generates the swf and sends the source to IE exactly the same as Firefox and Safari, but IE never displays it...there's just an empty space where the form should be. I've specified a height and width for the cfform and have tried enclosing the cfform inside of a table containing width and height attribues and a td containing width and height attributes. The flash player on the mac is the most recent version and we've tried this on multiple macs and multiple pc's with the exact same results. Anyone have any ideas? - Matt ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205373 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Combining verity results with database query
It's that last combination that is not working for me. I try to refer to the results from the verity resultset joined on the results from the database (based on a PrimaryID) and I get an error that the SQL is bad. Has anybody ever done this? Here is the SQL code: SELECT dbResults.*, vr.Score FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key = dbr.PrimaryID ORDER BY vr.Score George On 5/2/05, Gaulin, Mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can try using query of query. This can work ok in many cases. Use QueryValueList (or something like that) to extract the primary key values from the verity results, and then use them to create a db query that retrieves those rows. Last step is to combine them with q-of-q. Mark ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205374 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: New Development Libraries
On 5/2/05, Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you for making these libraries available! I hope to download your libraries, look at the example apps and try out your libraries very soon. Your licensing looks like I can use your libraries in commercial applications (i.e.; no GPL infections) Thanks. Right now, I'm sorry - but examples are far and few between (that will change soon). If you get a chance let me know where examples would be most appreciated and I'll address them first. For now feel free to request examples from me directly - you'll get them, just without documentation. As for the licensing they are all under the Open BSD license. It's an OSI Certified license with VERY FEW restrictions. In short you may fold, spindle and mutilate. ;^) For reference, the Lesser GPL (L-GPL) is not limited to non-commercial projects. You can sell products using the L-GPL all day long. As far as I know, the only real limitation of the L-GPL is the derivative works restriction and share alike for _derivative_ works. In other words, you can sell software that uses an L-GPL library or framework (like the onTap framework) -- what you can't do is add a couple functions to an L-GPL library and sell it _as_ a library (and not a complete application). If you want to add a couple functions and re-release _as_ a library then you have to attach the L-GPL or a similar license. As I understand it the L-GPL was written specifically to allow commercial applications so that projects released under it could receive wider adoption than similar GPL libraries. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205375 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse and cfmx7
On 5/3/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that the cfeclipse group has been quiet lately... That's because they all have day jobs too... There's been a lot of work on the dictionary machinery (which is what drives tag insight) in preparation for supporting more features and functionality. I believe CFMX 7 tag insight is actively being worked on... I'll ask Spike when I see him today (he's running a training course here in my building). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205376 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: New Development Libraries
-Original Message- From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:59 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New Development Libraries For reference, the Lesser GPL (L-GPL) is not limited to non-commercial projects. You can sell products using the L-GPL all day long. As far as I know, the only real limitation of the L-GPL is the derivative works restriction and share alike for _derivative_ works. In other words, you can sell software that uses an L-GPL library or framework (like the onTap framework) -- what you can't do is add a couple functions to an L-GPL library and sell it _as_ a library (and not a complete application). If you want to add a couple functions and re-release _as_ a library then you have to attach the L-GPL or a similar license. As I understand it the L-GPL was written specifically to allow commercial applications so that projects released under it could receive wider adoption than similar GPL libraries. All true. The LGPL is a very good option as well if you want to license your code, but aren't concerned about your code being used in commercial, non-open-source projects. It's also long and filled with lots of legal talk (although not nearly as much as the GPL). ;^) Personally I just don't care for the GPL/LGPL much. I respect them (although I really hate hanging out with the Free Software Foundation guys), but I find them confusing and overly wordy. The BSD license is short and to the point. It insures propagation of the copyright/ownership statement, disclaims responsibility for warranty, and eliminates inference of endorsement. And it does it all in less than half a page. ;^) Jim Davis ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205377 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse and cfmx7
I concur with Sean Basically all the team members have had some other projects apart from day jobs I have been doing a freelance project that has been sapping my time.. somewhere in between I try to fit my so-called-life There is work being done and worry you not, we shall come out with some nice features fixes and what not! MD On 5/3/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that the cfeclipse group has been quiet lately... That's because they all have day jobs too... There's been a lot of work on the dictionary machinery (which is what drives tag insight) in preparation for supporting more features and functionality. I believe CFMX 7 tag insight is actively being worked on... I'll ask Spike when I see him today (he's running a training course here in my building). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205378 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Combining verity results with database query
I toyed around with this code for some time. It is almost as if it does not see that second table (or resultset) which is being joined. For example, if this is the code: SELECT PrimaryID, Score FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key = dbr.PrimaryID ORDER BY vr.Score then it throws an error that says Score does not exist in dbResults. Well, no it does not, that is why I am joining on verityResults which is where it exists. Here is how the tables look. dbResults Column1: PrimaryID Column2: Data2 Column3: Data3 Column4: Data4 verityResults Column1: Key Column2: Score Column3: Body and so on. This code works: SELECT * FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key = dbr.PrimaryID ORDER BY vr.Score But then it shows me only the columns from dbResults. If I reverse the order of the join, then it shows me only the columns from verityResults. By the way, should mention that I am running CF 5 on Windows 2003 Server. Hasn't anybody ever wanted to preserve scores from their verity searches and then wanted to combine that with database results? George On 5/3/05, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's that last combination that is not working for me. I try to refer to the results from the verity resultset joined on the results from the database (based on a PrimaryID) and I get an error that the SQL is bad. Has anybody ever done this? Here is the SQL code: SELECT dbResults.*, vr.Score FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key = dbr.PrimaryID ORDER BY vr.Score George ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205379 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Combining verity results with database query
Did you try SELECT dbr.PrimaryID AS PrimaryID, vr.Score AS Score ... Pascal -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 16:34 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Combining verity results with database query I toyed around with this code for some time. It is almost as if it does not see that second table (or resultset) which is being joined. For example, if this is the code: SELECT PrimaryID, Score FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key = dbr.PrimaryID ORDER BY vr.Score then it throws an error that says Score does not exist in dbResults. Well, no it does not, that is why I am joining on verityResults which is where it exists. Here is how the tables look. dbResults Column1: PrimaryID Column2: Data2 Column3: Data3 Column4: Data4 verityResults Column1: Key Column2: Score Column3: Body and so on. This code works: SELECT * FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key = dbr.PrimaryID ORDER BY vr.Score But then it shows me only the columns from dbResults. If I reverse the order of the join, then it shows me only the columns from verityResults. By the way, should mention that I am running CF 5 on Windows 2003 Server. Hasn't anybody ever wanted to preserve scores from their verity searches and then wanted to combine that with database results? George On 5/3/05, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's that last combination that is not working for me. I try to refer to the results from the verity resultset joined on the results from the database (based on a PrimaryID) and I get an error that the SQL is bad. Has anybody ever done this? Here is the SQL code: SELECT dbResults.*, vr.Score FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key = dbr.PrimaryID ORDER BY vr.Score George ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205380 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Combining verity results with database query
Yep, tried that too. Another thing I just noticed is that it does not like the dot notation as in dbr.PrimaryID or whatever. It gives this error: ERROR Query Manipulation Error Code = 0 Invalid SQL SQL = SELECT dbr.* FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key=dbr.PrimaryID Data Source = The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFQUERY) /ERROR George On 5/3/05, Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you try SELECT dbr.PrimaryID AS PrimaryID, vr.Score AS Score ... Pascal ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205381 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: cfeclipse and cfmx7
Definitely not worried, just commenting :) -Original Message- From: Mark Drew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 10:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: cfeclipse and cfmx7 I concur with Sean Basically all the team members have had some other projects apart from day jobs I have been doing a freelance project that has been sapping my time.. somewhere in between I try to fit my so-called-life There is work being done and worry you not, we shall come out with some nice features fixes and what not! MD On 5/3/05, Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/3/05, Calvin Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've noticed that the cfeclipse group has been quiet lately... That's because they all have day jobs too... There's been a lot of work on the dictionary machinery (which is what drives tag insight) in preparation for supporting more features and functionality. I believe CFMX 7 tag insight is actively being worked on... I'll ask Spike when I see him today (he's running a training course here in my building). -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205382 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Combining verity results with database query
And did you try it without table aliases and with the join in the where clause: SELECT dbResults.primaryID AS primaryID, verityResults.score AS score FROM dbResults, verityResults WHERE dbResults.primaryID = verityResults.key ORDER BY verityResults.score DESC This has definitely worked for me in the past (on CF5) Pascal -Original Message- From: George Abraham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 16:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Combining verity results with database query Yep, tried that too. Another thing I just noticed is that it does not like the dot notation as in dbr.PrimaryID or whatever. It gives this error: ERROR Query Manipulation Error Code = 0 Invalid SQL SQL = SELECT dbr.* FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key=dbr.PrimaryID Data Source = The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFQUERY) /ERROR George ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205383 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Options to use instead of mappings?
relative paths? Where you have to have an absolute path, you could have a var storing teh root pat, say appliction.rootdir. DK On 5/3/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have pretty much consistently used mappings in my applications to include things from the document root, regardless of where the file being accessed is located. I often do it for UDFs and template files. Ie, cfinclude template=/rickroot/udf.cfm or cfinclude template=/rickroot/above.cfm !--- body content --- cfinclude template=/rickroot/above.cfm What are my options if I choose NOT to use mappings? For example, my blog application dynamically creates files in subdirectories, and currently includes the root index.cfm using a cfinclude tag with the mapping. The index.cfm will not always be in the document root, but it will always be 3 directories ABOVE the specific file in question. The index.cfm itself also uses cfinclude to include the template files, as exampled above. Thanks! Rick Root ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205385 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Combining verity results with database query
Well, My workaround for the time being is to use the very excellent queryMerge UDF from cflib.org. Leads to some overhead, but what the hey! George On 5/3/05, George Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, tried that too. Another thing I just noticed is that it does not like the dot notation as in dbr.PrimaryID or whatever. It gives this error: ERROR Query Manipulation Error Code = 0 Invalid SQL SQL = SELECT dbr.* FROM dbResults dbr INNER JOIN verityResults vr ON vr.key=dbr.PrimaryID Data Source = The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFQUERY) /ERROR George ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205385 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Ingres stored-proc/query column rename in CFMX7
Hi,
I've got a problem with the following function, which seems to have
been caused by upgrading to CFMX7 - it is now only returning an empty
query with a single COL_NAMES column, rather than a proper set of
data.
The theQuery variable is the result of an Ingres stored procedure.
The purpose of the function being to turn the results columns from
that procedure into CF-compatible names.
I'm hoping that someone here can either provide a fix for the
function, or point out an alternative method (that obviously results
in the same output).
Here's the function:
~~~
cfscript
//Map columns UDF...
function mapColumns(theQuery) {
//Declare local vars
var realColumnList = ;
var columnNamesList = ;
var columnNamesArray = ;
//Get the real column names based on the first row/column of
result set...
realColumnList = theQuery[RESULT ELEMENT0][1];
//Prepend a dummy column name for the first column
realColumnList = listPrepend(realColumnList,COL_NAMES);
//Create a String object with our new column names...
columnNamesList = createObject(java,java.lang.String);
columnNamesList.init(realColumnList.toString());
//Convert to a String Array!
columnNamesArray = columnNamesList.split(,);
//Change the column names of the result set using the array!
theQuery.setColumnNames(columnNamesArray);
return true;
}
/cfscript
~~~
Thanks for any help.
Peter
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Re: Combining verity results with database query
My God, that actually works!! Swwwet! But what the hell does that mean is happening with the query translation in the cfquery? Ah well, I'll use this now. Thanks Pascal. George On 5/3/05, Pascal Peters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And did you try it without table aliases and with the join in the where clause: SELECT dbResults.primaryID AS primaryID, verityResults.score AS score FROM dbResults, verityResults WHERE dbResults.primaryID = verityResults.key ORDER BY verityResults.score DESC This has definitely worked for me in the past (on CF5) Pascal ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205387 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
detecting back button for page refresh
Hi All. I would like to detect that the user has clicked the back button. I need to do this in order to get the last value entered in the form. ( currently using session variables to recall the last item searched for ). However as you can guess, by pressing the back button you do not get the lastest session items, you get the old ones. any work arounds? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205388 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
HL7 cfc or cfx
Does anyone know of an open source HL7 reader(parser) and sender. Either written in cfc or cfx that would run on cfmx 7.0? David ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205389 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Aggregating Errors
Can anybody give me pointers on a simple method to use cftry/cfcatch and cferror functionality to aggregate multiple errors into a single error display? This is for a user validation type function. I have several error blocks such as these. cfif not len(trim(form.service_Code)) AND not len(trim(form.product_Code)) cfthrow errorcode=CPT_001 message=No Service or Product Code entered, one is required. /cfif cfif len(trim(form.service_Code)) AND len(trim(form.product_Code)) cfthrow errorcode=CPT_002 message=Both Service and Product Code entered, only one is allowed. /cfif This works well, but as soon as any error is triggered, the page is thrown to the form_exception page defined in the cferror tag in the application.cfm file which displays that one error. It has been suggested that a better user expierence would be to find all errors first and then display them on the exception page. Can I do this with the above logic, or am I going to have to completely build a custom error/exception process? I thought I could wrap each section in its own try/catch block which would allow me to agregate all the errors into an array. But then I could not see a way to throw the entire array to the exception page. -- Ian Skinner Web Programmer BloodSource www.BloodSource.org Sacramento, CA C code. C code run. Run code run. Please! - Cynthia Dunning Confidentiality Notice: This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205390 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Options to use instead of mappings?
Douglas Knudsen wrote: relative paths? Where you have to have an absolute path, you could have a var storing teh root pat, say appliction.rootdir. I already have a variable storing the document root. But you can't use CFINCLUDE with anything other than a logical path. CFINCLUDE only looks in the current directory or a specified mapped directory. - Rick DK On 5/3/05, Rick Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have pretty much consistently used mappings in my applications to include things from the document root, regardless of where the file being accessed is located. I often do it for UDFs and template files. Ie, cfinclude template=/rickroot/udf.cfm or cfinclude template=/rickroot/above.cfm !--- body content --- cfinclude template=/rickroot/above.cfm What are my options if I choose NOT to use mappings? For example, my blog application dynamically creates files in subdirectories, and currently includes the root index.cfm using a cfinclude tag with the mapping. The index.cfm will not always be in the document root, but it will always be 3 directories ABOVE the specific file in question. The index.cfm itself also uses cfinclude to include the template files, as exampled above. Thanks! Rick Root ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205391 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Options to use instead of mappings?
On 5/3/05, Douglas Knudsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: relative paths? Where you have to have an absolute path, you could have a var storing teh root pat, say appliction.rootdir. I've had some good success with that and using a UDF called GetRelative. As long as the basic root is known you don't need to know where the current template is in relation. http://cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=837 -- Get Firefox! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/?q=affiliatesamp;id=58370amp;t=1 ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205392 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Options to use instead of mappings?
I already have a variable storing the document root. But you can't use CFINCLUDE with anything other than a logical path. CFINCLUDE only looks in the current directory or a specified mapped directory. - Rick Ahhh...but Rick...with the site root path and the current file's path (cgi.cf_template_path) you can build your own dynamic relative path ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205393 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Triple DES pre cfmx
This is actualy on a CF 5 server. But I will look into using the javax.crypt I may be able to do something with it. Thanks for the help -Joshua O'Connor-Rose -All is Good I haven't used cfx_crypto, but, since you're using CFMX 6.1, could I suggest you to use a Java class? You might wanna look at javax.crypt package. -- Fabio Terracini Joshua OConnor-Rose wrote: ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205394 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
cfform problems with IE on Mac
is Javascript turned off? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205395 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Aggregating Errors
There's no way around that if you use the CFERROR catch-all page. As soon as CF sees an error, it will pass that specific reference to the error page. You cannot control what information it receives. Why not just have an array in request (e.g. Request.PageErrors) that you add each exception to and then in OnRequestEnd.cfm (or in OnRequestEnd function of Application.cfc) check the length of the array and then display them all? It's really not that hard and doesn't take a lot of code. Instead of cfthrow ... you would have this code after every validation check... cfset arrayAppend(request.pageErrors, No Service or Product Code entered, one is required.) Then in OnRequestEnd... cfif ArrayLen(request.pageErrors) gt 0 cfloop through your array ... Display error(s) ... /cfloop /cfif -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Aggregating Errors Can anybody give me pointers on a simple method to use cftry/cfcatch and cferror functionality to aggregate multiple errors into a single error display? This is for a user validation type function. I have several error blocks such as these. cfif not len(trim(form.service_Code)) AND not len(trim(form.product_Code)) cfthrow errorcode=CPT_001 message=No Service or Product Code entered, one is required. /cfif cfif len(trim(form.service_Code)) AND len(trim(form.product_Code)) cfthrow errorcode=CPT_002 message=Both Service and Product Code entered, only one is allowed. /cfif This works well, but as soon as any error is triggered, the page is thrown to the form_exception page defined in the cferror tag in the application.cfm file which displays that one error. It has been suggested that a better user expierence would be to find all errors first and then display them on the exception page. Can I do this with the above logic, or am I going to have to completely build a custom error/exception process? I thought I could wrap each section in its own try/catch block which would allow me to agregate all the errors into an array. But then I could not see a way to throw the entire array to the exception page. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205396 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
I use a similar approach except that we keep the directory structure for our applications the same on the prod and dev server, then use CGI.Server_Name in the app_server.cfm file to make the request vars work on any server. In the application.cfm, you can set a variable that holds the absolute path to the image folder (or the path starting from the root). Then use that variable when you need the path to an image. I usually create a structure that holds parameters that depend on the server. Something like: request.app.dsn request.app.imgFolder request.app.rootFolder request.app.rootUrl request.app.mapping ... I create them in a separate file that I include in the application.cfm. I have a different file for every server (local, dev, staging, prod, ...) where the application is deployed. -Original Message- From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: level 1, level 2 Wouldn't /images/ refer to the images directory on the root level? This is a directory within and the whole site is there. In what way would I define a variable for a path to the images. It would seem to me that the variable would have to change just like the header. Can you give me a small example? sorry to be dense about it. /images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205397 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse and cfmx7
The tags defs are just stored in an XML file. Open it up and edit it :) No java knowledge needed. Also there is a user.xml file which is useful to add custom tags for insight. though you need to give them full names like cf_bob even though the directions say differently... Adam H On 5/3/05, Phillip P Rutherford II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any chance there will be an update that handles v7.0 tag insights, etc.. ? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Triangle Area ColdFusion User Group ]-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ http://tacfug.org ]-= ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205398 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfform problems with IE on Mac
No, Javascript is enabled. We use Javascript on many of our applications. On 5/3/05, Protoculture [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is Javascript turned off? ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205399 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
detecting back button for page refresh
You could try this: in the value field put cfif isDefined(session.whatever)cfoutput#session.whatever#/cfoutput/cfif Hi All. I would like to detect that the user has clicked the back button. I need to do this in order to get the last value entered in the form. ( currently using session variables to recall the last item searched for ). However as you can guess, by pressing the back button you do not get the lastest session items, you get the old ones. any work arounds? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205400 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfform problems with IE on Mac
A bit on the side, but unless you have to support IE on the Mac I wouldn't waste my time - Microsoft has dropped development of IE on the Mac so its pretty much a dieing product. http://www.macworld.com/news/2003/06/13/explorer/ With options like Safari and Firefox it's really not a player anymore (or at least in the future) so you may be wasting your time and energy. But if you have to support it you have to, just something to consider. We're developing an application that uses flash-format cfforms. It looks great on IE on Windows, Firefox on Windows and Safari on Mac, but not IE on Mac. For some reason with IE on the Mac (Panther 10.9) the server generates the swf and sends the source to IE exactly the same as Firefox and Safari, but IE never displays it...there's just an empty space where the form should be. I've specified a height and width for the cfform and have tried enclosing the cfform inside of a table containing width and height attribues and a td containing width and height attributes. The flash player on the mac is the most recent version and we've tried this on multiple macs and multiple pc's with the exact same results. Anyone have any ideas? - Matt ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205401 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
I agree with Rebecca and Pascal, this would be a better approach. As for using dreamweaver, I generally prefer to look after my own paths to files rather than letting a program do that. For that matter I really don't like using WYSIWYG editors like dreamweaver or frontpage, just for that reason, I have always used Homesite. On top of doing the include file in your Application.cfm, in Rebecca's example you can use the CGI.SERVER_NAME variable and use a CFIF statement to set the variables for each server. I use a similar approach except that we keep the directory structure for our applications the same on the prod and dev server, then use CGI. Server_Name in the app_server.cfm file to make the request vars work on any server. In the application.cfm, you can set a variable that holds the absolute path to the image folder (or the path starting from the root). Then use that variable when you need the path to an image. I usually create a structure that holds parameters that depend on the server. Something like: request.app.dsn request.app.imgFolder request.app.rootFolder request.app.rootUrl request.app.mapping ... I create them in a separate file that I include in the application. cfm. I have a different file for every server (local, dev, staging, prod, ...) where the application is deployed. -Original Message- From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: level 1, level 2 Wouldn't /images/ refer to the images directory on the root level? This is a directory within and the whole site is there. In what way would I define a variable for a path to the images. It would seem to me that the variable would have to change just like the header. Can you give me a small example? sorry to be dense about it. /images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205402 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Options to use instead of mappings?
Bryan Stevenson wrote: I already have a variable storing the document root. But you can't use CFINCLUDE with anything other than a logical path. CFINCLUDE only looks in the current directory or a specified mapped directory. - Rick Ahhh...but Rick...with the site root path and the current file's path (cgi.cf_template_path) you can build your own dynamic relative path ;-) Ah... my mistake. I don't have the document root, I have the applications document root, which may or may not be the same as the web server's document root. durn it all! and the CGI scope doesn't seem to contain the web server's document root. At least, not on all servers. (In particular, the server I just tried it on doesn't contain any data for CGI.DOCUMENT_ROOT) - Rick ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205403 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Options to use instead of mappings?
Ah... my mistake. I don't have the document root, I have the applications document root, which may or may not be the same as the web server's document root. durn it all! Rick...it's the app doc root you need...right...everything is relative to the app doc root ;-) app doc root: d:\wwwroot\yourApp\ current file path d:\wwwroot\yourApp\subDir\ A little manipulation (or that UDF that was mentioned)...gets ya a relative path to the app root of ../ Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com.cfm/54 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205404 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
I don't *think* that I have access to the application.cfm file. I'm in a shared hosting environment where our OIT staff has given me a sub-domain to work from (hhp.umd.edu), so they probably have the access to the application.cfm file. I don't see one in my file structure. I agree with Rebecca and Pascal, this would be a better approach. As for using dreamweaver, I generally prefer to look after my own paths to files rather than letting a program do that. For that matter I really don't like using WYSIWYG editors like dreamweaver or frontpage, just for that reason, I have always used Homesite. On top of doing the include file in your Application.cfm, in Rebecca's example you can use the CGI.SERVER_NAME variable and use a CFIF statement to set the variables for each server. I use a similar approach except that we keep the directory structure for our applications the same on the prod and dev server, then use CGI. Server_Name in the app_server.cfm file to make the request vars work on any server. In the application.cfm, you can set a variable that holds the absolute path to the image folder (or the path starting from the root). Then use that variable when you need the path to an image. I usually create a structure that holds parameters that depend on the server. Something like: request.app.dsn request.app.imgFolder request.app.rootFolder request.app.rootUrl request.app.mapping ... I create them in a separate file that I include in the application. cfm. I have a different file for every server (local, dev, staging, prod, ...) where the application is deployed. -Original Message- From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: level 1, level 2 Wouldn't /images/ refer to the images directory on the root level? This is a directory within and the whole site is there. In what way would I define a variable for a path to the images. It would seem to me that the variable would have to change just like the header. Can you give me a small example? sorry to be dense about it. /images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205405 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
Done right, there's usually no need for any cfif statement. All you need is something like this in the app_server.cfm file: !--- Example: www.houseoffusion.com --- cfset request.Domain = CGI.Server_Name !--- Example: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/ --- cfset request.webroot = http://#request.Domain#/cf_lists/; !--- Example: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/images/ --- cfset request.imagesdomain = #request.webroot#images/ !--- Example: C:\houseoffusion\cf_lists\ --- cfset request.fileroot = GetDirectoryFromPath(GetCurrentTemplatePath()) On top of doing the include file in your Application.cfm, in Rebecca's example you can use the CGI.SERVER_NAME variable and use a CFIF statement to set the variables for each server. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205406 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
You can always create one, right? -Original Message- From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:35 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: level 1, level 2 I don't *think* that I have access to the application.cfm file. I'm in a shared hosting environment where our OIT staff has given me a sub-domain to work from (hhp.umd.edu), so they probably have the access to the application.cfm file. I don't see one in my file structure. I agree with Rebecca and Pascal, this would be a better approach. As for using dreamweaver, I generally prefer to look after my own paths to files rather than letting a program do that. For that matter I really don't like using WYSIWYG editors like dreamweaver or frontpage, just for that reason, I have always used Homesite. On top of doing the include file in your Application.cfm, in Rebecca's example you can use the CGI.SERVER_NAME variable and use a CFIF statement to set the variables for each server. I use a similar approach except that we keep the directory structure for our applications the same on the prod and dev server, then use CGI. Server_Name in the app_server.cfm file to make the request vars work on any server. In the application.cfm, you can set a variable that holds the absolute path to the image folder (or the path starting from the root). Then use that variable when you need the path to an image. I usually create a structure that holds parameters that depend on the server. Something like: request.app.dsn request.app.imgFolder request.app.rootFolder request.app.rootUrl request.app.mapping ... I create them in a separate file that I include in the application. cfm. I have a different file for every server (local, dev, staging, prod, ...) where the application is deployed. -Original Message- From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: level 1, level 2 Wouldn't /images/ refer to the images directory on the root level? This is a directory within and the whole site is there. In what way would I define a variable for a path to the images. It would seem to me that the variable would have to change just like the header. Can you give me a small example? sorry to be dense about it. /images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205407 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Get the shit out of your eyes, you simpleton. I did not say that I thought CF would die. On the contrary, I stated that I believed the MM would still invest time and resources into CFMX. After spending tons of $$$ on a WORLD TOUR, why the hell would Macromedia NOT highlight the release on their website? Why spend the money on creating awareness and then not put it front and center on release day (and instead leave a WEEKS old banner for Flash video)? The speedometer graphic was lame and insufficient, and is reflective of the internal view of CFMX. That's all. Riddle me this: why would RedSky get decent attention when it was released? I remember a nice banner and decent info about that release. If I recall, the groundbreaking release of those awesome FireFly flash components got more attention at MM.com!. Adrocknaphobia wrote: Well put. A rotating banner on MM's site is probably the least effective marketing they could have for CF. Does everyone already forget the grueling world tour they sent Ben on before the release of 7. I don't think I've ever seen a tour like that for any other MM product before. The sky isn't falling. Your career does not rest on a rotating flash ad. -Adam ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205408 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
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After working with the new features and functionality available in ASP.NET 2.0, and after working with the new productivity features in Visual Studio 2005, David and I have decided to retool our intensive C# ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers course for ASP.NET 2.0 and Visual Studio 2005. The new capabilities in 2.0 make rapidly building real world apps *so* much easier that it only made sense to take advantage of this in the course. That way we can spend more time on tougher topics and less time on wrangling basic things like look and feel, user security, and the like. This is one of our (in)famous three student, two instructor, 5-day 8AM to 7PM intensive courses, and it's designed specifically for ColdFusion developers who want to rapidly spin up on C#, ASP.NET 2.0, and Visual Studio 2005, and take a bigger bite out of the job market pie as a result. The new class has been scheduled for August but this one's going to fill up quickly, so get your approval and register soon if you're interested. The best time to prepare yourself is now: http://www.productivityenhancement.com/training/Itinerary.cfm?coursecode=CSHARP Respectfully, Adam Phillip Churvis Member of Team Macromedia http://www.ProductivityEnhancement.com Download Plum and other cool development tools, and get advanced intensive Master-level training: * C# ASP.NET for ColdFusion Developers * ColdFusion MX Master Class * Advanced Development with CFMX and SQL Server 2000 ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205409 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
You're good with the dramatics! *Danger*..ON NO! Give me a break! Hide! Put away your wireless keyboards! -- Sean wrote: note type=purely personal I get pretty ticked off by certain CFers feeling slighted every time that Flash or Breeze or whatever gets a mention but CF is not mentioned in the same article -- Not even relevant. I was referring to the actual launch date of a long anticipated and much hyped unique server product, not some shitty write up on serverwatch.com or zdnet.com. Seems like this has touched a nerve with the Macromedia cult. John Dowdell wrote: Sean Corfield wrote: note type=purely personal I get pretty ticked off by certain CFers feeling slighted every time that Flash or Breeze or whatever gets a mention but CF is not mentioned in the same article hah! *I'm* ticked off that Sean didn't mention that I noticed the same thing too...! :D :D (Seriously, there *is* a danger to such posts -- I've seen teams come away from reading such threads with the feeling Wow, I don't think any feasible possibility could ever satisfy this crowd, so why bother trying? The entire mailking list ends up with less influence that way. I haven't seen this with the CF group here, but I *have* seen it in the past with other software. Smacking down such posts *does* perform a public good, as harsh as it may seem to the original poster ;-) jd ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205410 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: detecting back button for page refresh
There is no way to do this from the server side, as no page request is
made (it is loaded from cache), so you will have to use javascript -
here's an example from the web:
-start---
HTML
BODY ONLOAD=handleBackButton()
FORM NAME=backtrack
INPUT TYPE=HIDDEN NAME=isBack VALUE=No
/FORM
SCRIPT LANGUAGE=JAVASCRIPT
!--//
var isBackDefault=No;
var isBack;
function handleBackButton(){
isBack = (isBackDefault != document.backtrack.isBack.value);
document.backtrack.isBack.value=Yes;
document.backtrack.isBack.defaultValue=Yes;
}
function isBackButtonUsed(){
return isBack;
}
--
/SCRIPT
form
input type=button value=how did I get here?
onclick=(isBackButtonUsed())? alert('Back button was used'):alert('Page
was loaded normally')
/form
/BODY
/HTML
-end---
note that this approach will detect any load from cache - so the forward
button as well. Once you've detected that the page was loaded from
cache, you can use the javascript location.reload(true) function to
force a reload of the page.
/t
-Original Message-
From: Protoculture [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 5:05 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: detecting back button for page refresh
Hi All. I would like to detect that the user has clicked the
back button. I need to do this in order to get the last value
entered in the form. ( currently using session variables to
recall the last item searched for ). However as you can guess,
by pressing the back button you do not get the lastest session
items, you get the old ones.
any work arounds?
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RE: Little OT but know one else to ask...
I believe CF is running as system. This doesn't work with ASP either though. David -Original Message- From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 7:41 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Little OT but know one else to ask... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 1:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Little OT but know one else to ask... Hello, all... This is kinda off topic. I added the CONTS mail object to win2k3 ENT from win2k Adv Srv. I added it to the component services interface as a legacy component under IIS Out of Process Components and gave everyone access to it(behind firewall so not a huge deal). It still says access is denied when I try to use it from ASP or CF... Has anyone ever encounted this problem and how did you fix it? Which version of CF? Which user is CF running under - by default CF runs under the system account which has some limits. Perhaps setting it run under an actual user will help? Jim Davis ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205412 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Alex, You have further proved my original point with your incessant rants. This is not your blog. No one cares. It is such a minor issue, it's not worth taking about... yet again. This entire subject was covered in depth on release day. Search the archives and find solace that you are not the only paranoid developer to focus on such minuscule unimportant issues. -Adam On 5/3/05, Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Get the shit out of your eyes, you simpleton. I did not say that I thought CF would die. On the contrary, I stated that I believed the MM would still invest time and resources into CFMX. After spending tons of $$$ on a WORLD TOUR, why the hell would Macromedia NOT highlight the release on their website? Why spend the money on creating awareness and then not put it front and center on release day (and instead leave a WEEKS old banner for Flash video)? The speedometer graphic was lame and insufficient, and is reflective of the internal view of CFMX. That's all. Riddle me this: why would RedSky get decent attention when it was released? I remember a nice banner and decent info about that release. If I recall, the groundbreaking release of those awesome FireFly flash components got more attention at MM.com!. Adrocknaphobia wrote: Well put. A rotating banner on MM's site is probably the least effective marketing they could have for CF. Does everyone already forget the grueling world tour they sent Ben on before the release of 7. I don't think I've ever seen a tour like that for any other MM product before. The sky isn't falling. Your career does not rest on a rotating flash ad. -Adam ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205413 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: level 1, level 2
Well, Since you have access to the root of the subdomain, you can create your own application.cfm for your application. For that matter any directory can have its own application.cfm (though that would be an extreme use of it). If you are unfamiliar with the concept of using something like application.cfm, just read up one of the excellent references to CF. Or google it. George On 5/3/05, daniel kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't *think* that I have access to the application.cfm file. I'm in a shared hosting environment where our OIT staff has given me a sub-domain to work from (hhp.umd.edu), so they probably have the access to the application.cfm file. I don't see one in my file structure. I agree with Rebecca and Pascal, this would be a better approach. As for using dreamweaver, I generally prefer to look after my own paths to files rather than letting a program do that. For that matter I really don't like using WYSIWYG editors like dreamweaver or frontpage, just for that reason, I have always used Homesite. On top of doing the include file in your Application.cfm, in Rebecca's example you can use the CGI.SERVER_NAME variable and use a CFIF statement to set the variables for each server. I use a similar approach except that we keep the directory structure for our applications the same on the prod and dev server, then use CGI. Server_Name in the app_server.cfm file to make the request vars work on any server. In the application.cfm, you can set a variable that holds the absolute path to the image folder (or the path starting from the root). Then use that variable when you need the path to an image. I usually create a structure that holds parameters that depend on the server. Something like: request.app.dsn request.app.imgFolder request.app.rootFolder request.app.rootUrl request.app.mapping ... I create them in a separate file that I include in the application. cfm. I have a different file for every server (local, dev, staging, prod, ...) where the application is deployed. -Original Message- From: daniel kessler [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 May 2005 15:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: level 1, level 2 Wouldn't /images/ refer to the images directory on the root level? This is a directory within and the whole site is there. In what way would I define a variable for a path to the images. It would seem to me that the variable would have to change just like the header. Can you give me a small example? sorry to be dense about it. /images/ ?? or define a variable with the path to images. Pascal ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205414 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205415 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: level 1, level 2
You're right that I'm not familiar with it. We don't get alot of learning time that's not project time. Looks like that time is now then eh? Thanks! Well, Since you have access to the root of the subdomain, you can create your own application.cfm for your application. For that matter any directory can have its own application.cfm (though that would be an extreme use of it). If you are unfamiliar with the concept of using something like application.cfm, just read up one of the excellent references to CF. Or google it. George On 5/3/05, daniel kessler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205416 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse and cfmx7
So anyone can add in and update the new tag defs? Is anyone working on this that is known? Hatton On 5/3/05, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tags defs are just stored in an XML file. Open it up and edit it :) No java knowledge needed. Also there is a user.xml file which is useful to add custom tags for insight. though you need to give them full names like cf_bob even though the directions say differently... Adam H On 5/3/05, Phillip P Rutherford II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any chance there will be an update that handles v7.0 tag insights, etc.. ? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Triangle Area ColdFusion User Group ]-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ http://tacfug.org ]-= ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205417 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Aggregating Errors
I do something similar in that I use a stand-alone CFC that holds any error information. Internally, it is stored in an array of structures. It's pretty simple, but it comes in very handy. I, as well as many others, ran into a similar solution with typed CFC instance variables, getters and setters. I had two options: 1. Leave the variables and getters/setters typed and then throw/catch errors all over the place or, 2. leave the instance variables untyped and use logic in the methods to determine if the value validates. I chose method 2 at the time. M!ke -Original Message- From: Steve Brownlee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:09 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Aggregating Errors There's no way around that if you use the CFERROR catch-all page. As soon as CF sees an error, it will pass that specific reference to the error page. You cannot control what information it receives. Why not just have an array in request (e.g. Request.PageErrors) that you add each exception to and then in OnRequestEnd.cfm (or in OnRequestEnd function of Application.cfc) check the length of the array and then display them all? It's really not that hard and doesn't take a lot of code. Instead of cfthrow ... you would have this code after every validation check... cfset arrayAppend(request.pageErrors, No Service or Product Code entered, one is required.) Then in OnRequestEnd... cfif ArrayLen(request.pageErrors) gt 0 cfloop through your array ... Display error(s) ... /cfloop /cfif -Original Message- From: Ian Skinner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 11:22 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Aggregating Errors Can anybody give me pointers on a simple method to use cftry/cfcatch and cferror functionality to aggregate multiple errors into a single error display? This is for a user validation type function. I have several error blocks such as these. cfif not len(trim(form.service_Code)) AND not len(trim(form.product_Code)) cfthrow errorcode=CPT_001 message=No Service or Product Code entered, one is required. /cfif cfif len(trim(form.service_Code)) AND len(trim(form.product_Code)) cfthrow errorcode=CPT_002 message=Both Service and Product Code entered, only one is allowed. /cfif This works well, but as soon as any error is triggered, the page is thrown to the form_exception page defined in the cferror tag in the application.cfm file which displays that one error. It has been suggested that a better user expierence would be to find all errors first and then display them on the exception page. Can I do this with the above logic, or am I going to have to completely build a custom error/exception process? I thought I could wrap each section in its own try/catch block which would allow me to agregate all the errors into an array. But then I could not see a way to throw the entire array to the exception page. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205418 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Load Balancing/Filtering?
Hey sorry to chime in days late on this thread, but did you see what macromedia does? There were some diagrams on their site. Basically, there's the firewall, then an F5, load-balancing 2 web/apache servers serving the entire web sites. CFM pages are then load-balanced through another F5 (you can use the same exact one), to 2 CF servers. CF content is still served through those apache servers, but the connector points elsewhere for processing CFML. Hope it made sense. There's an article out there somewhere, complete with diagrams. Search macromedia.com for macromedia.com architecture or something. -nathan strutz http://www.dopefly.com/ Dave Watts wrote: I have a pool of servers managed by an F5. I'm trying to figure out how I can separate out my traffic such that all CFM requests are delivered to server A and all other types of requests (graphics etc) are sent to server B. What is the best way to do this? Well, rather than mucking around with the F5 itself, why not use separate virtual servers for the dynamic and static requests? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205419 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Alex says: I was referring to a product CREATED BY Macromedia Holy shit!!! MM created coldfusion Damn and to think they been telling us all these years that they bought it from Alaire, I can't believe I fell for their lies!! Oh wait, I think you mean they took the space out of the name to make it coldfusion from cold fusion, I gotcha now, good catch u sly fox ;) Absolute, unabated hogwash no shit!! but in reference to you not Sean, I have a gut feeling Sean may have inside info to why things are ;) And if you don't like it, boo hoo 2 u! I understand you would like to see it advertised more but obviously MM knows WTF they are doing with it, I mean after all it has been around longer than really anything else and really isn't faltering, for gawds sakes it isn't a panty ad, you don't got to see it all the time to keep your morning salute! From: Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:34 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Sean Corfield wrote: On 5/2/05, Alex Sherwood wrote: When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column. I just spoke with the web producer responsible for managing ColdFusion-related content on the site. He said that the blue speedometer promo badge for CFMX 7 was featured on the homepage (and you'll have seen it all over the CF-related pages on the site). He also said that certain international macromedia.com homepages included a full FMA (rotating banner ad) for CFMX 7. Remember that Macromedia has a lot of products and therefore a lot of competition for FMA and promo badge space - marketing has to balance each and every campaign in order to get the most bang for their buck, so to speak... Absolute, unabated hogwash. Notice I wasn't asking why CFMX didn't get top billing 100% of the time, I was asking why CFMX 0% exposure at the top of the page. If I recall correctly, it was that same old tired Volvo banner that ran for WEEKS before the launch of CFM that was still showing. Are you telling me that showing the CFMX banner to 1 in 5 visitors would hurt the sales of the products?! I get pretty ticked off by certain CFers feeling slighted every time that Flash or Breeze or whatever gets a mention but CF is not mentioned in the same article. Someone recently complained that the news article about Flash on mobiles (Stephen Elop's piece, I think) didn't mention ColdFusion but did mention Dreamweaver. It was a news item aimed at the business market and so it pushed the business value of Flash on mobiles and mentioned a reference point that those business users might recognize (Dreamweaver). There would have been no point in mentioning CF in such an article. Try not to get blinded by your own personal evangelism about CF (or any other technology)! And, yes, stop being so paranoid, OK? :) Forgive me for being a little obtuse here, Sean, but this, too, is drivel. The comparison is totally irrelevent. I was referring to a product CREATED BY Macromedia, MARKETED by Macromedia and SOLD by Macromedia. I wasn't suggesting that MACR mention CFMX on the Flash product pages. Nor was I stating that CFMX should be mentioned in the same breath as Flash or other IDE tools. I just found it odd that on the launch day of a brand new server product, hyped for MONTHS with all kinds of hush-hush NDAs and the like, that it woul get more than a 60x60 pixel image of a speedometer to launch it. I think the lack of fanfare reflects MM's view of the product, and what direction it would take when Adobe takes over. No paranoia here, just some observations from someone who's used ColdFusion from the 3.0 days. Good day. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205421 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse and cfmx7
We are working on it. I shall see what I can do in the next few days Regards Mark Drew On 5/3/05, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So anyone can add in and update the new tag defs? Is anyone working on this that is known? Hatton On 5/3/05, Adam Haskell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The tags defs are just stored in an XML file. Open it up and edit it :) No java knowledge needed. Also there is a user.xml file which is useful to add custom tags for insight. though you need to give them full names like cf_bob even though the directions say differently... Adam H On 5/3/05, Phillip P Rutherford II [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: any chance there will be an update that handles v7.0 tag insights, etc.. ? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ Triangle Area ColdFusion User Group ]-= -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-[ http://tacfug.org ]-= ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205421 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: cfeclipse and cfmx7
On 5/3/05, C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So anyone can add in and update the new tag defs? Yes. Is anyone working on this that is known? I think several people are working on it! But getting it into release format and putting it out the door may take some time as already indicated in thread already... -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205422 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
ColdFusion WHOIS Proxy?
Has anyone done a WHOIS proxy in ColdFusion, similar to the one at GeekTools.com? http://www.geektools.com/whois.php ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205423 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
hey that all worked! jeez-loouise! This is quite the mind-readjustment. hmmm. I can do this for my menusets too. hmm. k, great, thanks! Done right, there's usually no need for any cfif statement. All you need is something like this in the app_server.cfm file: !--- Example: www.houseoffusion.com --- cfset request.Domain = CGI.Server_Name !--- Example: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/ --- cfset request.webroot = http://#request.Domain#/cf_lists/; !--- Example: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/images/ --- cfset request.imagesdomain = #request.webroot#images/ !--- Example: C:\houseoffusion\cf_lists\ --- cfset request.fileroot = GetDirectoryFromPath(GetCurrentTemplatePath()) On top of doing the include file in your Application.cfm, in Rebecca's example you can use the CGI.SERVER_NAME variable and use a CFIF statement to set the variables for each server. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205424 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205425 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Why does everyone assume this? I never ever stated directly or indirectly that a lack of a banner at MM.com for CFMX7 would hurt sales. I was only commenting on why MM *wouldn't* devote more than a small speedometer graphic to the launch of their premier application server product. That's all. My observation wasn't to forecast the future lack of sales, but rather to shed light on the internal view of the product - that MM saw fit to give it 0% space at the top of the page. I'll tell you what, If I were on the CFMX development team, and launch day came and there was only a 60x60 pixel graphic of a speedometer to announce my blood, sweat and tears, I would shit the proverbial Ipod Shuffle! Bryan Stevenson wrote: Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205426 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
I know I should not respond to this thread, I know I should not respond to this thread, I know I should not respond to this thread, but arrrgghhh! For what it is worth, I agree, there should have been a big flashy banner. And I voiced this opinion before we shipped. Not that I thought it would make any difference whatsoever to CF sales (it did not, and CF sales are pretty darned good BTW, heck they are up since we did not run the banner!), but the reason I said that we needed it was that if we did not run one we'd keep hearing look, it is proof that CF is unloved. And although these recurring threads prove that I was right, that apparently was insufficient reason to place a banner there. Oh, this may surprise some of you, but Macromedia sells lots and lots of products, and every product team wants banner space and marketing real estate, and most can't get everything they want. It's reality. Dedicated DW users feel that DW does not get enough banner space, just like dedicated CF users feel that CF does not get enough banner space ... you get the idea. So what to do? Not all products get (nor should get) the exact same type of marketing, teams have to do what works best for them. And for CF roadshows (including the tours that someone mentioned earlier), tons of customer calls, big wide-open beta programs, and lots of face-to-face interaction has proven to be far more effective than banner ads. And CFMX7 sales to date prove that we did exactly what we needed to do (and thus plan on doing lots more of it). And yes, I still think we should have ran banner ads, just so we'd not be having this very distracting conversation yet again. --- Ben -Original Message- From: dave [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:27 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Alex says: I was referring to a product CREATED BY Macromedia Holy shit!!! MM created coldfusion Damn and to think they been telling us all these years that they bought it from Alaire, I can't believe I fell for their lies!! Oh wait, I think you mean they took the space out of the name to make it coldfusion from cold fusion, I gotcha now, good catch u sly fox ;) Absolute, unabated hogwash no shit!! but in reference to you not Sean, I have a gut feeling Sean may have inside info to why things are ;) And if you don't like it, boo hoo 2 u! I understand you would like to see it advertised more but obviously MM knows WTF they are doing with it, I mean after all it has been around longer than really anything else and really isn't faltering, for gawds sakes it isn't a panty ad, you don't got to see it all the time to keep your morning salute! From: Alex Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 9:34 AM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Sean Corfield wrote: On 5/2/05, Alex Sherwood wrote: When CFMX7 was launched, I queried as to why the only marketing on MM's site was a small picture and some text in the center Products column. I just spoke with the web producer responsible for managing ColdFusion-related content on the site. He said that the blue speedometer promo badge for CFMX 7 was featured on the homepage (and you'll have seen it all over the CF-related pages on the site). He also said that certain international macromedia.com homepages included a full FMA (rotating banner ad) for CFMX 7. Remember that Macromedia has a lot of products and therefore a lot of competition for FMA and promo badge space - marketing has to balance each and every campaign in order to get the most bang for their buck, so to speak... Absolute, unabated hogwash. Notice I wasn't asking why CFMX didn't get top billing 100% of the time, I was asking why CFMX 0% exposure at the top of the page. If I recall correctly, it was that same old tired Volvo banner that ran for WEEKS before the launch of CFM that was still showing. Are you telling me that showing the CFMX banner to 1 in 5 visitors would hurt the sales of the products?! I get pretty ticked off by certain CFers feeling slighted every time that Flash or Breeze or whatever gets a mention but CF is not mentioned in the same article. Someone recently complained that the news article about Flash on mobiles (Stephen Elop's piece, I think) didn't mention ColdFusion but did mention Dreamweaver. It was a news item aimed at the business market and so it pushed the business value of Flash on mobiles and mentioned a reference point that those business users might recognize (Dreamweaver). There would have been no point in mentioning CF in such an article. Try not to get blinded by your own personal evangelism about CF (or any other technology)! And, yes, stop being so paranoid, OK? :) Forgive me for being a little obtuse here, Sean, but this, too, is drivel. The comparison is totally irrelevent. I was referring to a
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Based on my experience: One issue that, IMO, can stand some increased awareness is security. If I had a nickel for every time I had to sit through a ColdFusion is inherently insecure lecture from some manager with a self-assumed programming background, I wouldn't be a programmer. I'd just buy Microsoft and retire. *I* know that you can develop secure web applications in ColdFusion- or insecure ones, if you so decide. And *I* know that the mindset of If it's Microsoft, it's automatically secure is a load of rubbish. This isn't MS-bashing, either. A web-app is as secure or insecure as the practices of the developer(s). Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one who's figured this out, though. I've even been told that the U.S. Navy (I used to work for a government contracting company) won't touch CF because it isn't Certified Secure- whatever that's supposed to mean. Now, that being said, the manager who told me that had a well-deserved reputation for making stuff up when he didn't have any facts at hand, or when the real fact contradicted his opinions, but it sums up probably the biggest issue with CF that I've encountered. Not the cost, or the extra effort to install and configure, but the fact that many of the decision-makers I've encountered still regard CF as a toy. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205429 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Careful, Ben, you run the risk of being called a simpleton. -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:46 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? I know I should not respond to this thread, I know I should not respond to this thread, I know I should not respond to this thread, but arrrgghhh! ...snip.. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205428 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Hi Ben, I value your opinion, so I'm glad to see that you at least agree with me in principal. Also, you'll notice that I just referenced launch week - not *permanent* space at the top of MM's front page. And, not even 100% of the space at the top - just a space in the rotation of the banner ads - some that were weeks old. You just confirmed what I had assumed - that there was concscious decision on MACR's part to NOT place a banner ad at the top - even if it were 1 in a rotation of 3 or 4 for other MM products. This is what bewildered me. I wasn't forecasting the end of CFMX, or gloomy sales, or a dastardly takeover by Adobe! -- Alex Ben Forta wrote: I know I should not respond to this thread, I know I should not respond to this thread, I know I should not respond to this thread, but arrrgghhh! For what it is worth, I agree, there should have been a big flashy banner. And I voiced this opinion before we shipped. Not that I thought it would make any difference whatsoever to CF sales (it did not, and CF sales are pretty darned good BTW, heck they are up since we did not run the banner!), but the reason I said that we needed it was that if we did not run one we'd keep hearing look, it is proof that CF is unloved. And although these recurring threads prove that I was right, that apparently was insufficient reason to place a banner there. Oh, this may surprise some of you, but Macromedia sells lots and lots of products, and every product team wants banner space and marketing real estate, and most can't get everything they want. It's reality. Dedicated DW users feel that DW does not get enough banner space, just like dedicated CF users feel that CF does not get enough banner space ... you get the idea. So what to do? Not all products get (nor should get) the exact same type of marketing, teams have to do what works best for them. And for CF roadshows (including the tours that someone mentioned earlier), tons of customer calls, big wide-open beta programs, and lots of face-to-face interaction has proven to be far more effective than banner ads. And CFMX7 sales to date prove that we did exactly what we needed to do (and thus plan on doing lots more of it). And yes, I still think we should have ran banner ads, just so we'd not be having this very distracting conversation yet again. --- Ben ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205430 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
That tears it. If Macromedia wasn't dissing ColdFusion, Ben would have posted sooner. Glad I stocked up on canned goods and had that extra freezer put in. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205431 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
and gas for the generator. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205433 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
and stocked up on ammo. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205432 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: level 1, level 2
You're quite welcome! Just don't call me Louise... :P hey that all worked! jeez-loouise! This is quite the mind-readjustment. hmmm. I can do this for my menusets too. hmm. k, great, thanks! statement to set the variables for each server. ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205434 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: ColdFusion WHOIS Proxy?
I implemented this page with my CFX_Whois tag... http://www.newmediadevelopment.net/multi_domaincheck.cfm The tag can be found here... http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_tag.cfm?ProductID=8 Paul ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205435 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
If you can afford gas, you're not a CF developer :( -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:06 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? .and gas for the generator. ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205436 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Matt, I think you are correct about your old boss. He was most likely referring to a certification and accreditation process for the server. Anything that runs on a secure government network must be approved before it use. Maybe at that time the Navy hadn't approved CF. Working for the Department of State (and currently writing the documents to get CFMX7 approved for use) it's not a hard task. It's just a pain and requires alot of documentation. Right now, only Flash Player 6 is approved for use. However that does not mean to say that Flash Player 7 isn't secure. It just means no one has taken the time to write up the appropriate papers. I can also say I personally know that CF is being used heavily in DoD and DHS. Heck DoD deployed Breeze to mobile communication units in the field. DoD is known for being the first in the government to embrace technology, so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different. -Adam On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on my experience: One issue that, IMO, can stand some increased awareness is security. If I had a nickel for every time I had to sit through a ColdFusion is inherently insecure lecture from some manager with a self-assumed programming background, I wouldn't be a programmer. I'd just buy Microsoft and retire. *I* know that you can develop secure web applications in ColdFusion- or insecure ones, if you so decide. And *I* know that the mindset of If it's Microsoft, it's automatically secure is a load of rubbish. This isn't MS-bashing, either. A web-app is as secure or insecure as the practices of the developer(s). Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one who's figured this out, though. I've even been told that the U.S. Navy (I used to work for a government contracting company) won't touch CF because it isn't Certified Secure- whatever that's supposed to mean. Now, that being said, the manager who told me that had a well-deserved reputation for making stuff up when he didn't have any facts at hand, or when the real fact contradicted his opinions, but it sums up probably the biggest issue with CF that I've encountered. Not the cost, or the extra effort to install and configure, but the fact that many of the decision-makers I've encountered still regard CF as a toy. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205437 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
If you want to hear some complaining about lack of love from MM, subscribe to a Director list. Woe is them! On 5/3/05, Ben Forta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dedicated DW users feel that DW does not get enough banner space, just like dedicated CF users feel that CF does not get enough banner space ... you get the idea. ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205438 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Unless you're contracted to work for the government. Heh. -- //SIGNED// Chris Montgomery, Contractor HQ AF Security Forces Center, Antiterrorism Branch 1517 Billy Mitchell Blvd, Bldg 954 Lackland AFB, TX 78236-0119 DSN 312.945.7034 Comm 210.925.7034 -Original Message- From: Dave Francis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? If you can afford gas, you're not a CF developer :( ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205439 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different They are not. There is an incredible amount of CF use within the Navy, and I myself have visited lots of Navy sites briefing them on CFMX7. There will always be the occasional voice of doubt and opposition, but in general, the Navy is using CF on both public and secure sites (and even on local networks running on ships!). --- Ben -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Matt, I think you are correct about your old boss. He was most likely referring to a certification and accreditation process for the server. Anything that runs on a secure government network must be approved before it use. Maybe at that time the Navy hadn't approved CF. Working for the Department of State (and currently writing the documents to get CFMX7 approved for use) it's not a hard task. It's just a pain and requires alot of documentation. Right now, only Flash Player 6 is approved for use. However that does not mean to say that Flash Player 7 isn't secure. It just means no one has taken the time to write up the appropriate papers. I can also say I personally know that CF is being used heavily in DoD and DHS. Heck DoD deployed Breeze to mobile communication units in the field. DoD is known for being the first in the government to embrace technology, so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different. -Adam On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on my experience: One issue that, IMO, can stand some increased awareness is security. If I had a nickel for every time I had to sit through a ColdFusion is inherently insecure lecture from some manager with a self-assumed programming background, I wouldn't be a programmer. I'd just buy Microsoft and retire. *I* know that you can develop secure web applications in ColdFusion- or insecure ones, if you so decide. And *I* know that the mindset of If it's Microsoft, it's automatically secure is a load of rubbish. This isn't MS-bashing, either. A web-app is as secure or insecure as the practices of the developer(s). Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one who's figured this out, though. I've even been told that the U.S. Navy (I used to work for a government contracting company) won't touch CF because it isn't Certified Secure- whatever that's supposed to mean. Now, that being said, the manager who told me that had a well-deserved reputation for making stuff up when he didn't have any facts at hand, or when the real fact contradicted his opinions, but it sums up probably the biggest issue with CF that I've encountered. Not the cost, or the extra effort to install and configure, but the fact that many of the decision-makers I've encountered still regard CF as a toy. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205440 Archives:
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
I don't know what the certification status of CF is with the Navy these days, but I know of at least one app where they were running CF. A couple years back, some Navy contractors illicitly procured the code from the Air Force office where I work now and set up their own version of our Vulnerability Assessment Management Program (VAMP). The guy I replaced in the office where I work now originally authored the Air Force's VAMP program back in 1998 and it has survived, until now. Alas, AF has decided to switch to a DOD-wide implementation run out of the Pentagon, and which is implemented in Java on Websphere, so I'll be scanning the want ads again soon. Time to go dust off my resume... -- //SIGNED// Chris Montgomery, Contractor HQ AF Security Forces Center, Antiterrorism Branch 1517 Billy Mitchell Blvd, Bldg 954 Lackland AFB, TX 78236-0119 DSN 312.945.7034 Comm 210.925.7034 -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Matt, I think you are correct about your old boss. He was most likely referring to a certification and accreditation process for the server. Anything that runs on a secure government network must be approved before it use. Maybe at that time the Navy hadn't approved CF. Working for the Department of State (and currently writing the documents to get CFMX7 approved for use) it's not a hard task. It's just a pain and requires alot of documentation. Right now, only Flash Player 6 is approved for use. However that does not mean to say that Flash Player 7 isn't secure. It just means no one has taken the time to write up the appropriate papers. I can also say I personally know that CF is being used heavily in DoD and DHS. Heck DoD deployed Breeze to mobile communication units in the field. DoD is known for being the first in the government to embrace technology, so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different. -Adam ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205442 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: ColdFusion WHOIS Proxy?
We have a free cfx tag here: http://www.coolfusion.com/downloads/index.cfm?id=6 HTH, -- Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server PrismAV - Virus scanning for ColdFusion and BlueDragon applications Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition: http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm iMS-Lite - the completely free mail server solution for applications and application servers http://www.coolfusion.com/iMSLite --- On Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:39 PM, Jim McAtee scribed: --- Has anyone done a WHOIS proxy in ColdFusion, similar to the one at GeekTools.com? http://www.geektools.com/whois.php ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205441 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Which is kinda my point. I've seen a general problem with the perception of CF- not just in one person, or a small group- but the vast majority of the IT Decision-Making types I've come across regard CF as a toy that you'd never use in 'Real Life'. One IT Director was openly amazed that an Intranet could be build and secured in ColdFusion. Another IT Manager asked me when we were going to graduate to the big leagues and move to .ASP for security reasons. These people weren't just bashing non-MS products- they just had an incorrect view of CF. The thread (kinda) started out on marketing CF, and in my experience, this has always been a glaring weakness in how CF is perceived. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 2:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different They are not. There is an incredible amount of CF use within the Navy, and I myself have visited lots of Navy sites briefing them on CFMX7. There will always be the occasional voice of doubt and opposition, but in general, the Navy is using CF on both public and secure sites (and even on local networks running on ships!). --- Ben -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Matt, I think you are correct about your old boss. He was most likely referring to a certification and accreditation process for the server. Anything that runs on a secure government network must be approved before it use. Maybe at that time the Navy hadn't approved CF. Working for the Department of State (and currently writing the documents to get CFMX7 approved for use) it's not a hard task. It's just a pain and requires alot of documentation. Right now, only Flash Player 6 is approved for use. However that does not mean to say that Flash Player 7 isn't secure. It just means no one has taken the time to write up the appropriate papers. I can also say I personally know that CF is being used heavily in DoD and DHS. Heck DoD deployed Breeze to mobile communication units in the field. DoD is known for being the first in the government to embrace technology, so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different. -Adam On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on my experience: One issue that, IMO, can stand some increased awareness is security. If I had a nickel for every time I had to sit through a ColdFusion is inherently insecure lecture from some manager with a self-assumed programming background, I wouldn't be a programmer. I'd just buy Microsoft and retire. *I* know that you can develop secure web applications in ColdFusion- or insecure ones, if you so decide. And *I* know that the mindset of If it's Microsoft, it's automatically secure is a load of rubbish. This isn't MS-bashing, either. A web-app is as secure or insecure as the practices of the developer(s). Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one who's figured this out, though. I've even been told that the U.S. Navy (I used to work for a government contracting company) won't touch CF because it isn't Certified Secure- whatever that's supposed to mean. Now, that being said, the manager who told me that had a well-deserved reputation for making stuff up when he didn't have any facts at hand, or when the real fact contradicted his opinions, but it sums up probably the biggest issue with CF that I've encountered. Not the cost, or the extra effort to install and configure, but the fact that many of the decision-makers I've encountered still regard CF as a toy. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The thread (kinda) started out on marketing CF, and in my experience, this has always been a glaring weakness in how CF is perceived. And, just for the record, does anyone think that adding a rotating ad banner to the home page of macromedia.com would do anything to change that perception (about security)? -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205444 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Depending on the marketing push, it could. So, when are MM going to hire some freelance writers to write some pro-CF pro-CF-security articles for InfoWeek et al? -- Damien McKenna - Web Developer - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Limu Company - http://www.thelimucompany.com/ - 407-804-1014 #include stdjoke.h -Original Message- From: Sean Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] And, just for the record, does anyone think that adding a rotating ad banner to the home page of macromedia.com would do anything to change that perception (about security)? ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205445 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Yep, quite a few sites in the NAVAIR community are using them. Our shop does CF, ASP/.NET and Domino development for the Navy. John From: Ben Forta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 3:56 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different They are not. There is an incredible amount of CF use within the Navy, and I myself have visited lots of Navy sites briefing them on CFMX7. There will always be the occasional voice of doubt and opposition, but in general, the Navy is using CF on both public and secure sites (and even on local networks running on ships!). --- Ben -Original Message- From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 3:48 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Matt, I think you are correct about your old boss. He was most likely referring to a certification and accreditation process for the server. Anything that runs on a secure government network must be approved before it use. Maybe at that time the Navy hadn't approved CF. Working for the Department of State (and currently writing the documents to get CFMX7 approved for use) it's not a hard task. It's just a pain and requires alot of documentation. Right now, only Flash Player 6 is approved for use. However that does not mean to say that Flash Player 7 isn't secure. It just means no one has taken the time to write up the appropriate papers. I can also say I personally know that CF is being used heavily in DoD and DHS. Heck DoD deployed Breeze to mobile communication units in the field. DoD is known for being the first in the government to embrace technology, so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different. -Adam On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on my experience: One issue that, IMO, can stand some increased awareness is security. If I had a nickel for every time I had to sit through a ColdFusion is inherently insecure lecture from some manager with a self-assumed programming background, I wouldn't be a programmer. I'd just buy Microsoft and retire. *I* know that you can develop secure web applications in ColdFusion- or insecure ones, if you so decide. And *I* know that the mindset of If it's Microsoft, it's automatically secure is a load of rubbish. This isn't MS-bashing, either. A web-app is as secure or insecure as the practices of the developer(s). Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one who's figured this out, though. I've even been told that the U.S. Navy (I used to work for a government contracting company) won't touch CF because it isn't Certified Secure- whatever that's supposed to mean. Now, that being said, the manager who told me that had a well-deserved reputation for making stuff up when he didn't have any facts at hand, or when the real fact contradicted his opinions, but it sums up probably the biggest issue with CF that I've encountered. Not the cost, or the extra effort to install and configure, but the fact that many of the decision-makers I've encountered still regard CF as a toy. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
And, just for the record, does anyone think that adding a rotating ad banner to the home page of macromedia.com would do anything to change that perception (about security)? cf_sarcasm Of course it would SeanI mean everybody knows that banner ads are to be trusted beyond your own mother's words of wisdom. If I saw one for ..NET I'd throw all my years of CF out the window and jump ship immeadiately!! /cf_sarcasm bah!! Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com/54 ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205447 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
Yeah, my understanding is also that MM put in some work before the release of CF7 to get CF7 and Flash 7 on the approved list for NMCI (Navy-Marine Corps Initiative) so I think that sort of work by MM will go a long way to get more government and military sites using MM technologies. That's what Ben and the MM crew told us when they did a visit during the Blackstone evangelism tour last year. John From: Adrocknaphobia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 3:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Matt, I think you are correct about your old boss. He was most likely referring to a certification and accreditation process for the server. Anything that runs on a secure government network must be approved before it use. Maybe at that time the Navy hadn't approved CF. Working for the Department of State (and currently writing the documents to get CFMX7 approved for use) it's not a hard task. It's just a pain and requires alot of documentation. Right now, only Flash Player 6 is approved for use. However that does not mean to say that Flash Player 7 isn't secure. It just means no one has taken the time to write up the appropriate papers. I can also say I personally know that CF is being used heavily in DoD and DHS. Heck DoD deployed Breeze to mobile communication units in the field. DoD is known for being the first in the government to embrace technology, so I'm not sure why the Navy would be any different. -Adam On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Based on my experience: One issue that, IMO, can stand some increased awareness is security. If I had a nickel for every time I had to sit through a ColdFusion is inherently insecure lecture from some manager with a self-assumed programming background, I wouldn't be a programmer. I'd just buy Microsoft and retire. *I* know that you can develop secure web applications in ColdFusion- or insecure ones, if you so decide. And *I* know that the mindset of If it's Microsoft, it's automatically secure is a load of rubbish. This isn't MS-bashing, either. A web-app is as secure or insecure as the practices of the developer(s). Sometimes, I feel like I'm the only one who's figured this out, though. I've even been told that the U.S. Navy (I used to work for a government contracting company) won't touch CF because it isn't Certified Secure- whatever that's supposed to mean. Now, that being said, the manager who told me that had a well-deserved reputation for making stuff up when he didn't have any facts at hand, or when the real fact contradicted his opinions, but it sums up probably the biggest issue with CF that I've encountered. Not the cost, or the extra effort to install and configure, but the fact that many of the decision-makers I've encountered still regard CF as a toy. Matt Osbun Web Developer Health Systems, International -Original Message- From: Micha Schopman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 1:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? To turn this already highly flamable thread into something more usefull, how do people think CF should grow, do you think it needs more attention? Does it lack important features or should CF be merely a keep it alive product. Looking forward to the merge where people suggested that this allowed more marketing of the products and where Kevin Lynch stated CF is a core business product, and looking at the comments posted in this thread, would it suit CF to be marketed more? Why would they spend more on CF with marketing if already other products are marketed more? Should CF even be marketed, with the chance of losing its type of being a niche product ? Would it fit CF if there was a larger community, maybe with a free standard version of CF and the enterprise version as the product doing the sales? Just some food for thought, please discuss this with arguments. Micha From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tue 5/3/2005 8:08 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? Honestly Alex...do you think banner ads are what sell CF...if so...think again ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. phone: 250.480.0642 fax: 250.480.1264 cell: 250.920.8830 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: www.electricedgesystems.com ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205448 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: New Development Libraries
All true. The LGPL is a very good option as well if you want to license your code, but aren't concerned about your code being used in commercial, non-open-source projects. It's also long and filled with lots of legal talk (although not nearly as much as the GPL). ;^) Personally I just don't care for the GPL/LGPL much. I respect them (although I really hate hanging out with the Free Software Foundation guys), but I find them confusing and overly wordy. The BSD license is short and to the point. It insures propagation of the copyright/ownership statement, disclaims responsibility for warranty, and eliminates inference of endorsement. And it does it all in less than half a page. ;^) I was just commenting because the last person seemed like they might be a bit confused about the GPL... really just addressing the comment GPL infections... just made me suspect that they were likely to be predisposed to avoid L-PGL projects without knowing what the L-GPL allows. Of course, there's nothing preventing me from switching the framework to the Open BSD license (or a similar Creative Commons license). I chose the L-GPL at the time because I'm not well-versed in the ins-and-outs of the open-source community and what different licenses contain. Jochem had pointed me to right place at the OS website and recommended the GPL which I imediately discounted after reading as being unusable for my purposes because I still want to build commercial projects with the framework (or at the time, the API function library). But the L-GPL was right next to it and the synopsys sounded about right, so that's what I used (after I read if of course). It just never occurred to me at the time that some people might be prejudiced against the L-GPL as a result of the GPL having a particularly strong reputation. I'm not saying they were -- I just couldn't tell from their post, so I may actually want to change the license now that I know that's a possibility. s. isaac dealey 954.522.6080 new epoch : isn't it time for a change? add features without fixtures with the onTap open source framework http://www.fusiontap.com http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/author/4806Dealey.htm ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205449 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite?
secure as in the product or as in insecure as in some of the users? And to answer Micha: I hope one of the things Adobe does with cfm is to license its use in schools and such for free and use its deep photoshop roots to entrench it in a lot of these designer programs. Why? How many sites out there count as php sites because they use 1 php page to process an email? But does that make them a php site? I would say no, they only use PHP because their teachers hand them a php script to send mail, the same way most of us probably used Matts cgi mail script in the past. Of course they are just designers but many will eventually learn some server side language and since they are familiar (loosely) with php they go right 4 that. So my point is too make cfm an option to them thats available and it will carry over and since Photoshop illustrator won't be replaced anytime soon they already have the market hold. Also educate people more on cfm since the general web public is very much uniformed of the actual details of cfm. For the record, yeah it woulda been cool to see cfm banners everywhere but I also saw MM but some serious cash in marketting where it needed to be, for me personally it was Bens tour and the big shabang they put on here in Denver, personally showing us in person first hand some of the new things and I would take that anyday over a banner ad. Leave the banners for the cash cows that let them continue the dev of our beloved product. also~ I wouldnt worry about Adobe dissing cfml, think about it, this whole deal is a direct threat to m$ and is aimed at the very heart of what m$ planned for the future, I seriously doubt they would kill off anything that takes business away from them bungholes. And hopefully with the extra cash Adobe has they can really market the bejesus outta cfml. Like I said before though, I hope they let the MM guys redo their site, haha From: Sean Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 4:47 PM To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com Subject: Re: CFMX: Dissed by Breeze and FlashLite? On 5/3/05, Matt Osbun wrote: The thread (kinda) started out on marketing CF, and in my experience, this has always been a glaring weakness in how CF is perceived. And, just for the record, does anyone think that adding a rotating ad banner to the home page of macromedia.com would do anything to change that perception (about security)? -- Sean A Corfield -- http://corfield.org/ Team Fusebox -- http://fusebox.org/ Got Gmail? -- I have 50, yes 50, invites to give away! If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive. -- Margaret Atwood ~| Logware (www.logware.us): a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:205450 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
