ColdFusion 6.1 installer?
Hey All, I need to find the CF6.1 installer. I don't need a license, or a serial, or media or anything like that, just need to DL and install developer edition. Anybody got any leads as to where I'm going to find that? Willy ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:306648 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: ColdFusion 6.1 installer?
Dave, you're the bomb. Thanks. /w On Mon, Jun 2, 2008 at 4:17 PM, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I need to find the CF6.1 installer. I don't need a license, or a serial, or media or anything like that, just need to DL and install developer edition. Anybody got any leads as to where I'm going to find that? Fig Leaf Software has received permission from Adobe to redistribute these installers. CF 6.1 installer for Windows: http://www.figleaf.com/download/coldfusion-61-win.exe CF 7.0.2 installer for Windows: http://www.figleaf.com/download/coldfusion-702-win.exe Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta, Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location. Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information! ~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;192386516;25150098;k Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:306655 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
cf_encrypt()
Does anybody know what kind of encryption cf_encrypt() is using? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: cf_encrypt()
Yeah, that's what I'm curious about. What algorithm?Thanks for clarifying my question! :~) Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/19/2004 1:12:14 PM VERY basic. It only returns a string with letters and numbers. Nothing special about it not sure if it's any particular algorithm, or just something MM came up with... Would be nice to know, so if anyone has any details please post to list :) ERJ -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 3:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: cf_encrypt() Does anybody know what kind of encryption cf_encrypt() is using? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Re: cf_encrypt()
Rob, you rock.:) [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/19/2004 2:01:26 PM Well its not AES thats for sure ;-) On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 13:10:55 -0600, Willy Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anybody know what kind of encryption cf_encrypt() is using? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
Rijndael Encryption in CF?
Anybody have any advice on implementing Rijndael encryption in ColdFusion?All I need to do is encrypt one string, and stick it on the url.I've been looking for some java to do this, but I'm either not finding what I need, or I have no idea how to use it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: Rijndael Encryption in CF?
Maybe I should have been more clear.I'm on a linux server, so I can't run most of the cfx tags that are listed in the Google search, and I'm not real interested in spending hundreds of dollars to encrypt one stinkin' string.What I'm hoping for is someone who's maybe used some of the rijndael java classes to roll their own. Thanks, Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/2/2004 9:25:04 AM http://www.google.com/search?q=Rijndael+encryption+in+ColdFusion ??? -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 August 2004 17:16 To: CF-Talk Subject: Rijndael Encryption in CF? Anybody have any advice on implementing Rijndael encryption in ColdFusion?All I need to do is encrypt one string, and stick it on the url.I've been looking for some java to do this, but I'm either not finding what I need, or I have no idea how to use it. Any help would be greatly appreciated! Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
RE: MAX registration?
This is from the hotels page on macr website: We offer several MAX 2004 conference hotels to give you the opportunity to select the hotel that best fit your needs. All hotels offer discounted rates for MAX attendees, and are centrally located to the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center, the historic French Quarter, and the Central Business District. A shuttle will also run from the three conference hotels to the Convention Center. This, to me, indicates that it'll be at the Ernest N. Morial Convention Center, though, if so, this is the only spot on their website that I'm seeing they're making any mention. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/23/2004 2:30:26 PM I'm not taking the bait :-) _ From: simeon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: MAX registration? This is one of those moments where I expect Ben Forta to chime in and say Maybe.. or Soon...Which seems to be the way, when asked about details that have not yet been released. he he he sim Ian Skinner wrote: I guess there where a few ways to interpret my question. I was wondering at what facility in New Orleans the conference was going to be at.There have been some intelligent guesses.But, I was a bit surprised that it was no mentioned in the MAX 2004 details on the MM website [http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/events/max/].I can't imagine that the location is not settled on, since it is my understanding that something this big would need at least nine to twelve months advanced booking, wouldn't it? Ian -- From the homepage, Company - Events - Max 2004 - Hotel works for me...unless I'm misunderstanding the question. Ken Confidentiality Notice:This message including any attachments is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and delete any copies of this message. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings] [Donations and Support]
multiple cferror type=exception tags
Hey, I'm trying to have custom error types, but I'm having some trouble. I have in my Application.cfm file the following code. cferror type=exception template=error_templates/error.cfm exception=db_error cferror type=exception template=error_templates/custom.cfm exception=my_custom_error The problem is, even if I cfthrow type=db_error ... I get the error_templates/custom.cfm file as the error handler.If I switch the order of the two lines in the Application.cfm file, I get the *other* error handling template regardless of what kind of exception I throw. I had thought that cold fusion allowed multiple developer-designated error types... What am I doing wrong? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFMX Easter egg (I think)
I have MX. I'm logging in first. I'm seeing an error about not having permission to write the some serialize_license.tmp file. What gives? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/14/03 02:07PM lol, that baby is scary looking Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 4:19 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Easter egg (I think) Log into the administrator first, then replace the URL with the one Zac provided, that'll do the trick. - Jim -Original Message- From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:59 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Easter egg (I think) When i run that on my server, I just get the CF Admin login Thanks! Robert Bailey Famous for nothing -Original Message- From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 4:07 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFMX Easter egg (I think) If this is an Easter Egg, I'd hate to see what they do for Halloween. /nightmares Thanks, this'll be a hit amongst my cadre of ColdFusion goons :) - Jim -Original Message- From: Zachary Bedell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 2:45 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFMX Easter egg (I think) I certainly can't recommend anyone try this. It didn't hurt my server any, but my head still hurts a little. This is somewhat disturbing Kind of reminds me of some of the SciFi channel's logo spots lately. http://your_cfmx_server/cfide/administrator/settings/_licensedata.cfm?seri alize You'll need the Flash player installed. Best regards, Zac Bedell ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CFCs - any way to reload other than cycle CF service?
It's really bugging me to have to restart CFMX every time I make a trivial little change to the component I'm developing. Is there another way to get the server to recognize the changes I've made to the CFC? Willy ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFCs - any way to reload other than cycle CF service?
Actually, I develop and somebody else manages the server. I know, I know. ;) I'll check that Trusted Cache setting. Thanks. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/03 12:26PM Anyway, the problems I've run into are not consistent, which makes me think you are referring to the fact that ColdFusion MX does not automatically refresh Web services. Either that, or you have Trusted Cache turned on. But if you turned that on, you'd probably know it, and wouldn't be posting to the mailing list. :) Benjamin S. Rogers http://www.c4.net/ v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFCs - any way to reload other than cycle CF service? It's really bugging me to have to restart CFMX every time I make a trivial little change to the component I'm developing. Is there another way to get the server to recognize the changes I've made to the CFC? Willy ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFCs - any way to reload other than cycle CF service?
Alrighty, Trusted Cache is not on. These aren't web services. They're public-access CFCs. I make a little change, and my pages that are using the CFC can't see new methods, or new code within old methods until I've cycled the server. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/03 12:42PM Actually, I develop and somebody else manages the server. I know, I know. ;) I'll check that Trusted Cache setting. Thanks. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/03 12:26PM Anyway, the problems I've run into are not consistent, which makes me think you are referring to the fact that ColdFusion MX does not automatically refresh Web services. Either that, or you have Trusted Cache turned on. But if you turned that on, you'd probably know it, and wouldn't be posting to the mailing list. :) Benjamin S. Rogers http://www.c4.net/ v.508.240.0051 f.508.240.0057 -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2003 1:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFCs - any way to reload other than cycle CF service? It's really bugging me to have to restart CFMX every time I make a trivial little change to the component I'm developing. Is there another way to get the server to recognize the changes I've made to the CFC? Willy ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFCs - any way to reload other than cycle CF service?
Bingo. That's exactly what's going on. Duh. Thanks! Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/09/03 01:41PM I overlooked that fact that I was putting the cfc in the session scope, and it wasn't recompiling :) Doh... ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Day 3 Opera works! Re: The New Macromedia Website
Except for the Download page that tells Opera users to Please Use a Supported Browser. Baby steps, I guess. Hopefully they'll get that working at some point soon. The home page is working great. So, as a developer who's doing some remoting, some RIAs (regardless of how *that* thread pans out), I'm intensly curious: What *exactly* was the problem, and will it effect me, as I build RIAs? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/07/03 05:18AM Ahh good I am quite happy now that it was finally fixed so I can see the site. That song on the front page is nice for all of 2 seconds and then it burns into your skull lol. But looks like its not quite as laggy as it was in ie other 2 days. Kudos MM for at least letting those people who like a good browser :) (Opera) to use your site. - Original Message - From: Sean A Corfield [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:31 AM Subject: Re: The New Macromedia Website On Thursday, Mar 6, 2003, at 14:08 US/Pacific, Adrocknaphobia Jones wrote: For the last few years I've been telling upper management that I can cut costs, raise quality, and employ less developers. Cold Fusion is the solution for us. Am I supposed to go to them and say, I need 3 times the budget per project and quadruple my department size I'm not sure why you think you need to do this? No one is forcing you to abandon CF nor forcing you to use Flash - you can continue to sell your CF is cheap position and continue building great sites, quickly. CF is great for that. But last month I noticed a large part of this community actively learning .NET. I'd hope large parts of this community would be constantly learning about technology. That's what makes everyone a better programmer. That's why people take courses, for example. My underlying issue is that Macromedia is very fickle. I can't tell you where they are going to be in a year. Which mean I don't know where I, a MM developer will be in a year either. Well, I don't think anyone can realistically argue the new site hasn't been fully sign-posted. Anyone who is surprised by our RIA deployment has, frankly, been living under a stone :) And it is purely evolution. It's CF on the back end, several of the apps are pure CF. Nothing shocking there. We have just four RIAs on the new site - there are five pure CF applications. People have been using Flash UIs on CF apps for quite some time, certainly prior to the MX launches. Macromedia has been roundly criticized for not using our own technology and for being a few releases behind the leading edge. Now we're up to date. You can't really criticize us for pushing the envelope... Sean A Corfield -- Director, Architecture Web Technology Group -- Macromedia, Inc. tel: (415) 252-2287 -- cell: (415) 717-8473 aim/iChat: seancorfield -- http://www.macromedia.com An Architect's View -- http://www.macromedia.com/go/arch_blog Announcing Macromedia DevNet Subscriptions Maximize your power with our new premium software subscription Find out more: http://www.macromedia.com/go/devnetsubs ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New MM.com
Yeah, not to add fuel to the fire, but I can't see it at all in Opera 7. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 08:00AM AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it to me ;) The stupid flash just loops loading over and over. I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a little worried. If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore unfortunately until they fix the problem. -- Bill Wheatley Senior Database Developer Macromedia Advanced Coldfusion 5 Developer Ediets.com ICQ - 417645 Aim - Bill Ediets 954-360-9022 x159 - Original Message - From: Benoit Hediard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:46 AM Subject: RE: New MM.com Congratulations to Sean and all the team. The new site is great. I like very much the new design and the way the site and the information are organized. One little simple detail that I enjoy, it remembers your latest selection in the home page. For example, if you have choosen Products ColdFusion MX and Solutions Developers, the next time you come, the home page will have them already selected (I suppose this is based on new Shared Objects capabilities). Very simple but efficient personalization... Ok, it is a little bit slow on my PIII 500... but I'm sure it will get better. As for the back/forward buttons in Flash, it seems to be pretty well handled by the 4 RIAs (home, exchange, membership and download). For the moment, it seems to be stable... I haven't seen any error pages... ColdFusionMX+FlashMX unleashed upon the masses! Bravo! Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com -Message d'origine- De : Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 14:02 + : CF-Talk Objet : Re: New MM.com Paul Hastings wrote: i come from a rather bandwidth poor part of the world was prepared for p*ss-poor performance. i was surprised at how well bandwidth was used, even the slower portions didn't seem that slow. Overall, I find the site rather slow when using the Flash version. I don't know if there is some traffic shaping that allows only a limited number of connections/limited speed or if Flash gets all the components sequentially or something, but there are very few sites that take 4 seconds to load (yes, I am spoiled). CPU and the connection never max out on my end. As a result, I switched to the HTML version. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Well, yeah, but shouldn't it decay properly, and let me know I don't have the latest plugin? Instead, I get a blank page. I'd get fired for deploying a page that didn't properly detect my plugin version. I develop in ColdFusion *and Flash*! My plugin is pretty current. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 08:57AM I suspect the browsers which are failing such as Netscape is due to the fact the Flash Player is out of date (I think we are up to 6,0,79,0 or something?!) -Original Message- From: Jillian Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 15:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! I'm surprised MM would launch this site given: - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to be watching - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc. For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers: - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended) - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen) - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links that are visible, aren't functional) - Mozilla 1.1 (depricates nicely w/o Flash in this browser) - IE 6 (the links in the main 'top' bar don't work properly) It's unfortunate. -- Jillian -Original Message- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 5, 2003 9:21 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! I can't say I am too happy with the new site (it was nice to look at first off and in all honesty: It seems a gimmick), but I cant see how you could have failed to find the exchanges : www.macromedia.com/exchange -Original Message- From: paris lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 15:11 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards... They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make me feel the site is any more responsive... Hopefully they revise this... Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen block to select show newest... a change from how it historically has worked... But hey it's pretty. (Isn't that all that matters) :) -p -- Original Message -- From: Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:06:59 - I like the new design, but it still suffers from the old back button problem which is a real usability issue; I preferred the old site : much cleaner. -Original Message- From: Andre Mohamed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 10:59 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! Pity the top toolbar on the home page doesn't work how it's supposed to :) Other than that, looks great. I wouldn't like to load it over a modem though! -Original Message- From: Oliver Cookson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 March 2003 09:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: New Macromedia.com launched! Maybe there has already been a post, if not there is now! :) The new Macromedia.com has been launched and its looks excellent (if a little slow in places). Well done MM. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New MM.com
I appreciate that you guys are getting hammered here. I should have thought you'd have expected it. I also hear you getting defensive, and I can really understand that, too. I've been there. That not withstanding, what you've essentially said here is this: Whatever percentage the Opera market is, we're comfortable abandoning them, or forcing them to launch a Microsoft product that they'd really rather not. My guess is that your typical Opera user is a developer. Is this really an audience you're comfortable with orphaning? For my part, when I develop a site, I'm constantly testing it in several versions of Explorer, Communicator and Opera. Who QA-ed your new site, anyway? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 09:31AM One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the Macromedia site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it to me ;) The stupid flash just loops loading over and over. I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a little worried. If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore unfortunately until they fix the problem. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Yeah, but Google News works... Sorry. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 09:40AM If it's a beta version, why is it public then? Sometimes when you are trying to experiment new things, you don't have any choices than to experiment live. Look at Google News (http://news.google.com/), it has been launch to the public several months ago (nearly a year) and it is still Google News Beta. Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com -Message d'origine- De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 17:21 + : CF-Talk Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched! If it's a beta version, why is it public then? I mean, I wouldn't think that it's a good practice to put your beta's directly out to the public. Just my 2 cents. Scott -Original Message- From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:00 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: New Macromedia.com launched! Come on guys... it is a Beta version. Is there only never happy people on this list? Marcromedia needs to stop it with all their flash everywhere... it's bad design, slow and confusing in many regards... I disagree about the bad design and confusing things arguments (... agree about the slow one). The organisation of the site seems to be much clear than the previous one. The home page is not intended to ColdFusion Developers... but any kind of audience, that's why it requires a flashy brand/corporate lookfeel. If you don't like it, just go directly to http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/, you don't have to go through it. (there was already a big marketing flash movie in the previous home page) They keep changing the groupings of things as well ... quite a pain this morning to find the Exchanges... had to use the site map Not very hard... Select Product ColdFusion MX on the home page, and then you'll get a direct access to the exchange. (and it will remember this setting) That corner loading/initiaing thing is annoying and doesn't make me feel the site is any more responsive... Hopefully they revise this... Oh and the Exchange by default shows some goofy collection of files initially... you have to go to a right side of screen block to select show newest... a change from how it historically has worked... Once you have selected Newest, it will also remember this settings for your next visit (no changes to your historical habits). Come on guys, move forward... Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: New Macromedia.com launched!
Sweet, so you're saying we get to stop QA-ing our development projects in browsers other than IE. Excellent. You've just saved us all quite a bit of time! It doesn't matter what the market share is. It has to work, or at least decay properly in ANY BROWSER MM's QA can get they're hands on. Yes? Support guy: Hey, some customers have complained they can't see the site. Web Developer: Well, it works on my machine. Tell the idiots to get a better browser. Great PR, guys. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 10:49AM Please, stop the debate about Opera and its 10% Opera marketshare. I don't know where did you get those 10%. In most browser statistics, Opera is below 1%. Example : WebSideStory's figures were compiled independently based on a random daily sample of 20 million visitors to thousands of Web sites that use its HitBox visitor analysis service. According to data from Monday, 3.4 percent of the visitors were using a Netscape browser, 96 percent using IE and less than one percent were using the Opera browser from Opera Software ASA. From day to day the sample shows some fluctuation, but over the past several weeks Netscape usage hasn't been higher than 4 percent, Johnston said. Benoit Hediard www.benorama.com -Message d'origine- De : Scott Wilhelm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] EnvoyT : mercredi 5 mars 2003 18:21 + : CF-Talk Objet : RE: New Macromedia.com launched! That's about the dumbest thing I've heard in the conversations today. If 10% of the market uses Opera, it's an established browser...Why shouldn't a site test for it? Especially a company such as Macromedia. They screwed up big time. They designed a site that looks good, tries to do some fancy stuff, but falls short on the big picture, and now needs to work on damage control. Scott -Original Message- From: Bruce Sorge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 12:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! You know that MM is not the only site that does not work well with Opera. Wells Fargo Bank's On-Line banking does not work well either. There are a few others that do not work with Opera, so MM is not the only one out there that is not checking for that browser. Why not apply yourself to the QA department if Opera compatibility is such an issue? Personally I do not have any problems loading the new site in IE. I am viewing it on a Dell Inspiron, 1.5 GHZ Pentium 4 processor with a half a gig of RAM, and it is running just fine. Maybe Opera needs to get on board and make their browser work with other companies sites? - Original Message - From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:43 AM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! That is the biggest load of BS i've heard all day. Its a website! Test the crap before you upload it, if you dont have a QA deptment get one. If you do have one fire the people because they obviously don't know what they are doing. You can't release a site that doesn't even let you see the front page with a browser like Opera. I run it on IE and its slow as anything. Its like macromedia never stops to think before it releases things lol. Hopefully they fix the opera thing quickly. I mean its only a browser with 10%, and growing, of the market. - Original Message - From: Christian Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: Re: New Macromedia.com launched! The new macromedia.com is certainly a next generation site, and unfortunately, there are going to be issues like the ones you mention below. I hope people can take the time to let us know when they find things like this by going to the following URL: http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/mm_feedback.html I remember when I first used OS X (also a complete re-write and next generation project) it was VERY rough at first, and had issue ranging from performance to compatibility. Over time, however, it has really been refined into an excellent and extremely advanced OS. To some extent, these types of issues are the price you pay when you take big steps forward. Someone has to be pushing the envelope, though, and I'm glad it's Macromedia. Christian On Wednesday, March 5, 2003, at 10:50 AM, Jillian Carroll wrote: I'm surprised MM would launch this site given: - Jakob Neilson (and other usability professionals) are going to be watching - They are trying to 'sell sell sell' the idea that Flash has matured and is now faster, friendlier, etc. For my own interest, I checked out the site in several browsers: - NS 6.2.3 and 7.1 (seems to work nearly as I imagine is intended) - NS 4.79 (very little of the site can be seen) - NS 4.78 (much like 4.79, very little can be seen, and the links that are visible, aren't
Re: New MM.com
So, the problem is with Opera. But it looks like you didn't QA with Opera... Who's problem is that? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 11:22AM - Original Message - From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] It also begs the question, why does it not work in Opera? I've got the site working in IE5.5, Mozilla 1.1a and Nutscrape 4.7 crashed, but then that hardly surprising given how bad it was at pretty much everything! Apparently the issue with Opera actually existing on our previous site, but it manifests itself a little more on the new site. It is an issue with Opera (although I don't have the details yet), and we are working with the Opera team to resolve it. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New MM.com
A problem with Opera? What about the flash player? Isn't it supposed to be a virtual machine? Compile once, run anywhere? What, problem with Opera? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 11:22AM - Original Message - From: Stephen Moretti [EMAIL PROTECTED] It also begs the question, why does it not work in Opera? I've got the site working in IE5.5, Mozilla 1.1a and Nutscrape 4.7 crashed, but then that hardly surprising given how bad it was at pretty much everything! Apparently the issue with Opera actually existing on our previous site, but it manifests itself a little more on the new site. It is an issue with Opera (although I don't have the details yet), and we are working with the Opera team to resolve it. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: New MM.com
I hear you, Mike, and I'm sorry you're getting your lunch pissed on today. Know this: I'm a developer for a small college using ColdFusion MX, Flash MX, DWMX, and Homesite. We've been a ColdFusion campus since version 3. I *love* your products. I *love* your support folks. I would like to see Macromedia continue to do well. I'm a loyal customer. Here's how I read your .04%: Macromedia's marketing info says the site gets a million customers a day. That article is here: http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mmwebsite/articles/devnet_experience.html four tenths of one percent of one million (1,000,000 * .004) = 4,000 customers hitting your site per day using Opera. So, is this significant to you or not? Maybe it isn't. I can see the corporate attitude being, The amount of customers we have, those 4k can hang. What do you think? Is that the case? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 05:07PM .4% of users who visit our site use Opera. Regardless, we are working with Opera to resolve the issue. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Willy Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 11:52 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com I appreciate that you guys are getting hammered here. I should have thought you'd have expected it. I also hear you getting defensive, and I can really understand that, too. I've been there. That not withstanding, what you've essentially said here is this: Whatever percentage the Opera market is, we're comfortable abandoning them, or forcing them to launch a Microsoft product that they'd really rather not. My guess is that your typical Opera user is a developer. Is this really an audience you're comfortable with orphaning? For my part, when I develop a site, I'm constantly testing it in several versions of Explorer, Communicator and Opera. Who QA-ed your new site, anyway? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/05/03 09:31AM One thing to keep in mind is that while Opera may have 10% of the market (does it?), that does not mean that 10% of people who visit the Macromedia site have it. It may be a much smaller percentage. mike chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Bill Wheatley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: Re: New MM.com AHHH nobody seems to have mentioned the fact the site looks like horses*it to me ;) The stupid flash just loops loading over and over. I cant even see it with opera, and if they don't have a QA Dept then i'm a little worried. If they also don't care about 10% and growing portion of the browser market well then that fine too i guess i wont be visiting their site anymore unfortunately until they fix the problem. ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Form.Fieldnames and MX
You sure your method attribute is set to 'POST'? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/03 08:26AM Though Form is selected for Display, nothing for Form is coming up on the action page in the debugging info. (Maybe because no data is being passed?) Cutter Andy Ousterhout wrote: Turn on Display Variables in CF Admin and see what is getting passed -Original Message- From: Cutter (CF_Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Form.Fieldnames and MX Ok, what happened? I used to be able to loop through form.fieldnames to create a list of all of the fields and then I could write my processor script. CFMX, on the other hand, gives me the following: Element FIELDNAMES is undefined in FORM. Anybody have any ideas? Cutter ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: Form.Fieldnames and MX
Hate to ask this one: You're not invoking the action page directly without hitting submit off the form page, are you? (*cringe*). [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/03 08:40AM Yes, method=post Cutter Willy Ray wrote: You sure your method attribute is set to 'POST'? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/13/03 08:26AM Though Form is selected for Display, nothing for Form is coming up on the action page in the debugging info. (Maybe because no data is being passed?) Cutter Andy Ousterhout wrote: Turn on Display Variables in CF Admin and see what is getting passed -Original Message- From: Cutter (CF_Talk) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 8:29 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Form.Fieldnames and MX Ok, what happened? I used to be able to loop through form.fieldnames to create a list of all of the fields and then I could write my processor script. CFMX, on the other hand, gives me the following: Element FIELDNAMES is undefined in FORM. Anybody have any ideas? Cutter ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
CFC vs. Customtag Surprise: Recursion
Ok, my database table for storing my content is a big tree, set up like this id - label - parentid 1 'myweb' 0 2 -- 'links' ---1 3 - 'portfolio' ---1 4 - 'firstlink' 2 Make sense? Every row has it's own Id, and the ID of its parent, and from this I get a big branching tree structure to hold the data. I'm presented with this problem where I have to take a branch of the tree and make an exact copy of it within the database. The relationships have to be all the same, but all new ids. A copy of the 'myweb' node from the example above looks like this: id - label - parentid 1 'myweb' 0 2 -- 'links' ---1 3 - 'portfolio' ---1 4 - 'firstlink' 2 5 'myweb' 0 6 -- 'links' ---5 7 - 'portfolio' ---5 8 - 'firstlink' 6 I'm thinking, excellent opportunity to go nuts with CFCs, and write some recursion, right? Wrong. Here's what happened (pseudo-code): 1.Create a function named replicate: 2.Takes two arguments: NodeToDuplicate, and ParentOfNewNode. 3.Selects everything from the table where id = nodeToDuplicate 4.Inserts the data from previous query with parentid = arguments.ParentOfNewNode (this re-creates the node, with a parent that *I've* specified when I invoke the function) 5.Selects the MAX(id) from the table WHERE label = 'thelabelIGotFromTheFirstQuery', sets that to NewNodeId 6.Selects all the ids WHERE parentid = NodeToDuplicate (this gets all children of the current node) call it qGetChildren 7.Loop over qGetChildren Re-invoke the replicate function from within itself for every child of the current node. NodeToDuplicate = qGetChildren.id ParentOfNewNode = NewNodeId (the id of the newly replicated node in step 4) /loop Ok. let that soak in. Should work, right? Right. I thought so too. It fails hard. Gets off-track fast. I go through the logs of what it did (after I reboot the web AND database server) and it's getting down to the first node that has no children... Then looping back to the top of the whole structure, and looping trying to duplicate nodes that have no relationship to the node I'm trying to duplicate, then it gets into a loop where it's running down the left-hand side of the tree from top to bottom over and over until the house-of-cards comes crashing down, and I've killed the server. I'm thinking, 'It's in the logic. My recursion is bad'. Spend about a week on the above 7 points. On a whim, re-encapsulate THE EXACT SAME LOGIC as above into a Custom Tag. Works like a freakin' charm. So, what's the difference? The CFCs are creating multiple threads, and getting out of sync with the database returns? Trying to process the next iteration before it's gotten the return from the database, whereas the custom tag is running more procedurally? Or what? Any thoughts? I'm happy to supply the actual code to anybody who's interested. Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFC vs. Customtag Surprise: Recursion
Oh really? So any variables that I set within the function were being overwritten at every iteration by the next instance of the function? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/03 10:15AM I bet you forgot to var scope your variables in the CFC. Custom tags variables are protected by default - values in a CFC method must be protected explicitely(sp) using the var scope declaration. === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFC vs. Customtag Surprise: Recursion Ok, my database table for storing my content is a big tree, set up like this id - label - parentid 1 'myweb' 0 2 -- 'links' ---1 3 - 'portfolio' ---1 4 - 'firstlink' 2 Make sense? Every row has it's own Id, and the ID of its parent, and from this I get a big branching tree structure to hold the data. I'm presented with this problem where I have to take a branch of the tree and make an exact copy of it within the database. The relationships have to be all the same, but all new ids. A copy of the 'myweb' node from the example above looks like this: id - label - parentid 1 'myweb' 0 2 -- 'links' ---1 3 - 'portfolio' ---1 4 - 'firstlink' 2 5 'myweb' 0 6 -- 'links' ---5 7 - 'portfolio' ---5 8 - 'firstlink' 6 I'm thinking, excellent opportunity to go nuts with CFCs, and write some recursion, right? Wrong. Here's what happened (pseudo-code): 1.Create a function named replicate: 2.Takes two arguments: NodeToDuplicate, and ParentOfNewNode. 3.Selects everything from the table where id = nodeToDuplicate 4.Inserts the data from previous query with parentid = arguments.ParentOfNewNode (this re-creates the node, with a parent that *I've* specified when I invoke the function) 5.Selects the MAX(id) from the table WHERE label = 'thelabelIGotFromTheFirstQuery', sets that to NewNodeId 6.Selects all the ids WHERE parentid = NodeToDuplicate (this gets all children of the current node) call it qGetChildren 7.Loop over qGetChildren Re-invoke the replicate function from within itself for every child of the current node. NodeToDuplicate = qGetChildren.id ParentOfNewNode = NewNodeId (the id of the newly replicated node in step 4) /loop Ok. let that soak in. Should work, right? Right. I thought so too. It fails hard. Gets off-track fast. I go through the logs of what it did (after I reboot the web AND database server) and it's getting down to the first node that has no children... Then looping back to the top of the whole structure, and looping trying to duplicate nodes that have no relationship to the node I'm trying to duplicate, then it gets into a loop where it's running down the left-hand side of the tree from top to bottom over and over until the house-of-cards comes crashing down, and I've killed the server. I'm thinking, 'It's in the logic. My recursion is bad'. Spend about a week on the above 7 points. On a whim, re-encapsulate THE EXACT SAME LOGIC as above into a Custom Tag. Works like a freakin' charm. So, what's the difference? The CFCs are creating multiple threads, and getting out of sync with the database returns? Trying to process the next iteration before it's gotten the return from the database, whereas the custom tag is running more procedurally? Or what? Any thoughts? I'm happy to supply the actual code to anybody who's interested. Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFC vs. Customtag Surprise: Recursion
Ok, that's good, but here's a thought: My function was essentially done before it called the recursion. Calling itself was essentially the last thing it had to do before it waited for flow to return to it from all it's children, and close itself. Seems to me like it shouldn't have caused me this problem if I was overwriting variables that were no lonber being used... Your thoughts? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/03 02:41PM Exactly. Same applies to UDFs as well. Simply declare your variables. Example: cffunction name=test access=public returnType=numeric output=false cfset var x = 1 cfreturn x * 2 /cffunction === Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 3:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFC vs. Customtag Surprise: Recursion Oh really? So any variables that I set within the function were being overwritten at every iteration by the next instance of the function? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/12/03 10:15AM I bet you forgot to var scope your variables in the CFC. Custom tags variables are protected by default - values in a CFC method must be protected explicitely(sp) using the var scope declaration. == = Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus Yahoo IM : morpheus My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2003 11:03 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFC vs. Customtag Surprise: Recursion Ok, my database table for storing my content is a big tree, set up like this id - label - parentid 1 'myweb' 0 2 -- 'links' ---1 3 - 'portfolio' ---1 4 - 'firstlink' 2 Make sense? Every row has it's own Id, and the ID of its parent, and from this I get a big branching tree structure to hold the data. I'm presented with this problem where I have to take a branch of the tree and make an exact copy of it within the database. The relationships have to be all the same, but all new ids. A copy of the 'myweb' node from the example above looks like this: id - label - parentid 1 'myweb' 0 2 -- 'links' ---1 3 - 'portfolio' ---1 4 - 'firstlink' 2 5 'myweb' 0 6 -- 'links' ---5 7 - 'portfolio' ---5 8 - 'firstlink' 6 I'm thinking, excellent opportunity to go nuts with CFCs, and write some recursion, right? Wrong. Here's what happened (pseudo-code): 1.Create a function named replicate: 2.Takes two arguments: NodeToDuplicate, and ParentOfNewNode. 3.Selects everything from the table where id = nodeToDuplicate 4.Inserts the data from previous query with parentid = arguments.ParentOfNewNode (this re-creates the node, with a parent that *I've* specified when I invoke the function) 5.Selects the MAX(id) from the table WHERE label = 'thelabelIGotFromTheFirstQuery', sets that to NewNodeId 6.Selects all the ids WHERE parentid = NodeToDuplicate (this gets all children of the current node) call it qGetChildren 7.Loop over qGetChildren Re-invoke the replicate function from within itself for every child of the current node. NodeToDuplicate = qGetChildren.id ParentOfNewNode = NewNodeId (the id of the newly replicated node in step 4) /loop Ok. let that soak in. Should work, right? Right. I thought so too. It fails hard. Gets off-track fast. I go through the logs of what it did (after I reboot the web AND database server) and it's getting down to the first node that has no children... Then looping back to the top of the whole structure, and looping trying to duplicate nodes that have no relationship to the node I'm trying to duplicate, then it gets into a loop where it's running down the left-hand side of the tree from top to bottom over and over until the house-of-cards comes crashing down, and I've killed the server. I'm thinking, 'It's in the logic. My recursion is bad'. Spend about a week on the above 7 points. On a whim, re-encapsulate THE EXACT SAME LOGIC as above into a Custom Tag. Works like a freakin' charm. So, what's the difference? The CFCs are creating multiple threads, and getting out of sync with the database returns? Trying to process the next iteration before it's gotten the return from the database, whereas the custom
Obscure Dateformat Question
Ok, This is true: dateformat(1092117600) = 04-Jun-16 What I need to do is take 04-Jun-16 and turn it into 1092117600. I can go one direction, but I'm not sure how to go back... Some special mask for Dateformat that I don't know, or what? If I could get the algorythm, I'd make a UDF for it... Thanks in advance, Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Highly Flammable Topic? BlueDragon, anyone?
Is anybody using BlueDragon to process their CFML? Took me about an afternoon to get it configged and running my CF applications with datasources and everything, without a macromedia product on the server! Seems pretty good. How's stability? Anybody have any experience with this? What platforms? How's it working? Willy ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
SOT: Query Trouble
Ok, say I have a table of vendors and a table of products, and I want to list out all the vendors and their products: cfquery datasource=myfictionalstore name=qGetData SELECT vendors.vendor_name,products.product_name FROM vendors, products WHERE vendors.id = products.vendorid ORDER BY vendorid /cfquery Then: cfoutput query=qGetData group=vendorid #qGetData.vendor_name#: cfoutput #qGetData.product_name#, /cfoutput br /cfoutput This gives me a good list of all my vendors, with a somewhat sloppy comma delimited list of their products after. But what if I have vendors who don't currently have products in the product table, and I want to list them anyway? It's like a, where-are-the-vendors and BTW, here-are-their-products kind of deal. Another way to put it. I have three vendors and the second one has no products, I need my list to look like this: Vendor A: mouse traps, cat food, Vendor B: Vendor C: applesauce, condensed milk, But the above query doesn't do that. Any help? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: Query Trouble
Love this list! Thanks. That's the ticket. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/04/02 04:01PM You need to do a left outer join - cfquery datasource=myfictionalstore name=qGetData SELECT vendors.vendorid, vendors.vendor_name,products.product_name FROM vendors LEFT OUTER JOIN products ON vendors.id = products.vendorid ORDER BY vendorid /cfquery Give that a shot. Adam. -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 4:50 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: Query Trouble Ok, say I have a table of vendors and a table of products, and I want to list out all the vendors and their products: cfquery datasource=myfictionalstore name=qGetData SELECT vendors.vendor_name,products.product_name FROM vendors, products WHERE vendors.id = products.vendorid ORDER BY vendorid /cfquery Then: cfoutput query=qGetData group=vendorid #qGetData.vendor_name#: cfoutput #qGetData.product_name#, /cfoutput br /cfoutput This gives me a good list of all my vendors, with a somewhat sloppy comma delimited list of their products after. But what if I have vendors who don't currently have products in the product table, and I want to list them anyway? It's like a, where-are-the-vendors and BTW, here-are-their-products kind of deal. Another way to put it. I have three vendors and the second one has no products, I need my list to look like this: Vendor A: mouse traps, cat food, Vendor B: Vendor C: applesauce, condensed milk, But the above query doesn't do that. Any help? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
SOT: CF administrator MX System probes
Ok, The Forta book says Click on system probes under the tools menu. I can't find a Tools menu in cfadmin. Did I fail to install something? What's my boggle, here? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: CF administrator MX System probes
Yeah. I'm looking in the book, and I see System Probes listed under Debugging and Logging. But I don't have it in mine. Debugging Logging Debugging Settings Debugging IP Addresses Logging Settings Scheduled Tasks Code Analyzer I must have not installed something... - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/02 11:57AM I believe that was true in CF5, in MX It's System Probes :-) Stace -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: CF administrator MX System probes Ok, The Forta book says Click on system probes under the tools menu. I can't find a Tools menu in cfadmin. Did I fail to install something? What's my boggle, here? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: CF administrator MX System probes
Ah ha... Ok, then. Thanks! Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/02 12:20PM The probes are definitely an Enterprise feature. Deb -Original Message- From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:13 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF administrator MX System probes Could be Enterprise version only? Not sure... -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CF administrator MX System probes Yeah. I'm looking in the book, and I see System Probes listed under Debugging and Logging. But I don't have it in mine. Debugging Logging Debugging Settings Debugging IP Addresses Logging Settings Scheduled Tasks Code Analyzer I must have not installed something... - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/21/02 11:57AM I believe that was true in CF5, in MX It's System Probes :-) Stace -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 12:37 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: SOT: CF administrator MX System probes Ok, The Forta book says Click on system probes under the tools menu. I can't find a Tools menu in cfadmin. Did I fail to install something? What's my boggle, here? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: WDDX and large recordsets
How large? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/19/02 04:34PM Can anyone share there experience using WDDX and large record sets? Any caveats? Brook ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
SOT: RegEx
Ok, I have a string that looks like this: /web/path/to/myfile.jpg JPEG 1280x1024 DirectClass 8-bit 95kb 0.3u 0:01 It's an imagemagic identification of a file that my user is uploading. myfile.jpg is CFFILE.clientfile. I need to go through this thing and get the 1280x1024 out. I could come up with a way to do this w/o regular expressions, but it wouldn't be as flexible as I'd like it to be. I've tried this: cfset location = REFind(/d+x/d+, mystring) And this: cfset start = REFind([/d+]x[/d+], mystring) Doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Solved: RE: SOT: RegEx
Linux. No spaces (at least, not on *this* server, baby). Plus, I really wanted to use Regular Expressions (my inner masochist) Anyway, I figured it out. I was using this: cfset start = REFind([/d+]x[/d+], mystring) and needed to be using this: cfset start = REFind([\d]+x[\d]+, mystring) I was using wrong slashes, and the +'s were in the wrong place, relative to the brackets. Thanks for the help! - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/10/02 10:15AM I thought of that too, but what if there's a space in the file path? -Original Message- From: Patric Stumpe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 10, 2002 12:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: SOT: RegEx Hi Willy, if it's always the same structure you could get use ListGet(myString, 3, ' ') With space as delimiter. Just a thought... Patric WR Ok, I have a string that looks like this: WR /web/path/to/myfile.jpg JPEG 1280x1024 DirectClass 8-bit 95kb 0.3u 0:01 WR It's an imagemagic identification of a file that my user is uploading. myfile.jpg is CFFILE.clientfile. WR I need to go through this thing and get the 1280x1024 out. I could come up with a way to do this w/o regular expressions, but it wouldn't be as flexible as I'd like it to be. WR I've tried this: WR cfset location = REFind(/d+x/d+, mystring) WR And this: WR cfset start = REFind([/d+]x[/d+], mystring) WR Doesn't seem to work. Any ideas? WR - WR Willy Ray WR Web Applications Developer WR Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer WR Westminster College WR ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: RegEx
CF-RegEx list! Woo-hoo! I didn't even know there was such a thing! I'm all over it. Thanks! - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/10/02 12:03PM : /web/path/to/myfile.jpg JPEG 1280x1024 DirectClass 8-bit 95kb 0.3u 0:01 : cfset location = REFind(/d+x/d+, mystring) : : And this: : : cfset start = REFind([/d+]x[/d+], mystring) I'm assuming you're using CFMX, or the style you're trying to employ won't work. IIRC, in CFMX, you almost had it with the first refind, but you need to use backslashes instead of forward slashes. You could also do this: size = rereplace(mystring, .*(\d+x\d+).*, \1) If you are using CF5, you need to do something like start = refind([0-9]+x[0-9]+, mystring) or size = rereplace(mystring, .*([0-9]+x[0-9]+).*, \1) HTH. As always, a plug for the CF-RexEx list. If you like to use them, are interested about learning more about them, or just want to know what the heck all this regular expression junk is, check out the archives, post, or join at: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=threadsforumid=21 --Ben Doom Programmer General Lackey Moonbow Software ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
CF encrypt() and SQL
Ok here's what's going on: I'm using the encrypt() function to encrypt data as it goes into my database. Like this: cfquery datasource=#application.dsn# name=insertencrypteddata UPDATE mytable SET myvalue= '#encrypt(#FORM.myvalue#,mykey)#' WHERE id = #FORM.id /cfquery Some of you probably already know what my problem is. Sometimes this works fine. Other times the encrypted values have characters in them that (like single-quote) that break my query. Anybody been through this? Solutions? Thanks in advance Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF encrypt() and SQL
I'm on MySQL. I'm not sure I can do that... Can I? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/02 11:34AM did you try with cfstoredproc and cfprocparam ??? Gerald -Original Message- From: Willy Ray To: CF-Talk Sent: 10/09/02 19:26 Subject: CF encrypt() and SQL Ok here's what's going on: I'm using the encrypt() function to encrypt data as it goes into my database. Like this: cfquery datasource=#application.dsn# name=insertencrypteddata UPDATE mytable SET myvalue= '#encrypt(#FORM.myvalue#,mykey)#' WHERE id = #FORM.id /cfquery Some of you probably already know what my problem is. Sometimes this works fine. Other times the encrypted values have characters in them that (like single-quote) that break my query. Anybody been through this? Solutions? Thanks in advance Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CF encrypt() and SQL
Does that work the same for inserts? insert into mytable(myvalue) values(cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#encrypt(FORM.myvalue,'mykey')#) ? Thanks again. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/02 11:38AM Have you tried using CFQUERYPARAM? cfquery datasource=#application.dsn# name=insertencrypteddata UPDATE mytable SET myvalue= cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#encrypt(FORM.myvalue,'mykey')# WHERE id = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_INTEGER value=#FORM.id# /cfquery -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF encrypt() and SQL Ok here's what's going on: I'm using the encrypt() function to encrypt data as it goes into my database. Like this: cfquery datasource=#application.dsn# name=insertencrypteddata UPDATE mytable SET myvalue= '#encrypt(#FORM.myvalue#,mykey)#' WHERE id = #FORM.id /cfquery Some of you probably already know what my problem is. Sometimes this works fine. Other times the encrypted values have characters in them that (like single-quote) that break my query. Anybody been through this? Solutions? Thanks in advance Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Solved: RE: CF encrypt() and SQL
Hey thanks. That seems to have worked. gush this is the best list-serv ever! /gush - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/10/02 11:38AM Have you tried using CFQUERYPARAM? cfquery datasource=#application.dsn# name=insertencrypteddata UPDATE mytable SET myvalue= cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_VARCHAR value=#encrypt(FORM.myvalue,'mykey')# WHERE id = cfqueryparam cfsqltype=CF_SQL_INTEGER value=#FORM.id# /cfquery -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:26 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CF encrypt() and SQL Ok here's what's going on: I'm using the encrypt() function to encrypt data as it goes into my database. Like this: cfquery datasource=#application.dsn# name=insertencrypteddata UPDATE mytable SET myvalue= '#encrypt(#FORM.myvalue#,mykey)#' WHERE id = #FORM.id /cfquery Some of you probably already know what my problem is. Sometimes this works fine. Other times the encrypted values have characters in them that (like single-quote) that break my query. Anybody been through this? Solutions? Thanks in advance Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Best way to resend undelvr
What's the best way to check my undeliverable mail folder and the automatically RESEND the mail? Willy Ray - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Best way to resend undelvr
Gnarly. So, I could just make a scheduled task to a little cffile functionality to do this automagically, eh? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/15/02 10:36AM What OS? On Solaris you would cd to /usr/coldfusion/mail/undelivr. Then you would mv * ../spool. You would want to check and see if they have any bad data first, so cat *|more them and check for to and from addresses. On windows it should be a simple copy and paste job. Tim Heald ACP/CCFD :) Application Development http://www.schoollink.net Fusebox Advisory Committee Member http://www.fusebox.org Manager Fayetteville ColdFusion User Group http://www.fcfug.org -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:31 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Best way to resend undelvr What's the best way to check my undeliverable mail folder and the automatically RESEND the mail? Willy Ray - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Flashin my CF!!!!
Hey Critter. Are you using FlashMX? CFMX? If so definately use the remoting. Over the last two days I've made a chat client and an email client, in *my spare time*. Others may disagree with this but: The trick to laying out tabular data is the flash function duplicateMovieClip(). Essentially, what you're going to do is create a blank movie clip, with dynamic text fields in it, spaced how you want them, then loop through your recordset and duplicate a movie clip with a dynamic name (based on the index of your loop) and passing in the variables from the recordset as you go. You'll then set the _y value of the new clip and reiterate the loop. Make any sense? You can do all sorts of stuff this way; you can pass in urls to link to, all sorts of stuff. Alternatively, you can make one big text field that's HTML enabled, and use string parsing to lay things out. Up to you. Feel free to mail me if you want more specifics. Other Business (at the risk of incuring flame): Now, as for 'read the cf maual' [sic]. A) you've obviously mis-understood the question. B) Don't you think that, as a response to a (seemingly) newbie question, RTFM is a sentiment more fitting of the ASP community? Come on now. The ColdFusion development community shouldn't be eating it's young, here. We're smarter than that. Willy Ray Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/20/02 07:40AM read the cf maual. On Thu, 20 Jun 2002, Critz wrote: Good mornin CF(Mx)'ers as I begin my journey down the path of a Rich Internet Application, I have come upon a small obstacle. Displaying the results of a recordset in a html table type format... anybody have any suggestions??? -- Best regards, Critter, MMCP Certified ColdFusion Developer Crit[s2k] - CF_ChannelOp Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
CFMX Upgrade Woes!
Ok, we just moved our development platform from 5.0 to MX. This will probably be a first-of-many kind of post. First error we come across is this: ByteArray objects cannot be converted to strings. The Error Occurred in /web/live/faculty_staff/index.cfm: line 13 11 : WHERE articleID = #variables.article# 12 : /cfquery 13 : cfset truncate = find(.,qGetArticle.Text,150) 14 : 15 : I'm trying to truncate what *used to be* a text string out of my database. Is there now some .toString() function I need to use, or something? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFMX Upgrade Woes!
OH! I should really try to figure stuff out on my own first... Well... it's early. Here's the story: We're using MySQL and we happen to be storing this column as a BLOB. Binary object. If I set it to medium text, it works fine... I'm sure I'll be running into some more stuff! Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College [EMAIL PROTECTED] 06/18/02 08:08AM Ok, we just moved our development platform from 5.0 to MX. This will probably be a first-of-many kind of post. First error we come across is this: ByteArray objects cannot be converted to strings. The Error Occurred in /web/live/faculty_staff/index.cfm: line 13 11 : WHERE articleID = #variables.article# 12 : /cfquery 13 : cfset truncate = find(.,qGetArticle.Text,150) 14 : 15 : I'm trying to truncate what *used to be* a text string out of my database. Is there now some .toString() function I need to use, or something? Willy - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
More: CFMX Upgrade Woes: CFLDAP
Alright, here's another one. This one seems a little more real. Anybody using CFLDAP on MX? We use it to authenticate against our Novell Network. It seems like it doesn't like the DN attribute. Doesn't Like DN. I need DN. How do you do an LDAP operation w/o DN? The documentation includes DN as a valid attribute... Here's the error... Attribute validation error for tag CFLDAP. The tag does not allow the attribute(s) DN. The valid attribute(s) are ACTION,ATTRIBUTES,DELIMITER,FILTER,FILTERFILE,MAXROWS,NAME,PASSWORD,PORT,REBIND,REFERRAL,SCOPE,SECURE,SEPARATOR,SERVER,SORT,SORTCONTROL,START,STARTROW,TIMEOUT,USERNAME. The Error Occurred in /web/customtags/ndsauth.cfm: line 23 22 : 23 : cfldap action=query 24 : dn=cn=#attributes.username#,o=wcslc_ut 25 : name=qgetcontext Any thoughts? - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Multiple CFMail Problem
What do you think would be the best way to add a delay? Just loop through some math a couple thousand times? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/08/02 11:38AM Hi, Thanks for shedding some light on this subject. Just for the record it is not fixed in CF5 as we experience this same behavior you described and have solved it somewhat by adding in a delay. Thanks Chuck Rodgers At 12:30 PM 4/8/02 -0500, you wrote: We experienced this problem with all versions of 4.5. Allaire never did 'fix' the error. They claimed it was fixed in 4.5.1, however it still existed, just wasn't as persistent as earlier versions. Our own diagnosis determined that the cause of the error was the cfmail.dll(I forget the actual name of the DLL) was trying to write two files at the same time. Or perhaps more correctly, it would attempt to write the second file before the first was closed. We would typically end up with 0k files in the undeliverable section. Anyway, adding some pause between the cfmails may solve your problem provided the site isn't terribly active and there aren't too many simultaneous requests to these cfmail calls. We found the size of the emails also greatly affected how often this error would occur. For example, if you have a page that sends 4 different emails to 4 different contacts at one company and each email contains a 10k attachment, you can start to duplicate this bug with some regularity. Now imagine that page being hit every 5 seconds... Now, the speed of your server and file system are also going to affect how often this happens. So, adding pauses and using smaller emails MAY solve your problem depends on how active your site is. Ultimately, our solution was to switch to an alternate means of generating email. We switched to an ASP product that is actually multi-threaded unlike Allaire/Macromedias solution. For years, I have been suggesting that CF Enterprise be bundled with a robust multi-threaded smtp spooler that should be directly tied to the application engine. Enterprise sites that deal with high mail loads would benefit from this. Also, it would add more product disparity between pro and ent, something I personally feel is lacking. I have not tested these same errors (bugs?) in CF 5. Perhaps it has been corrected, but honestly, if past performance of eliminating mail bugs between revisions is any indication, I would suspect they only added new and more exciting problems ;) Trey Rouse Internet Project Coordinator Web Services - Rice University MS 119 - 713.348.4799 PS - I love CFM, I just loath CFMAIL. -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, April 08, 2002 10:43 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Multiple CFMail Problem Hey All, Here's my situation. I have an application that generates 3 total emails. User clicks submit, it generates one email, then they're taken to another page on which they can submit additional info. If they do this, two more emails are created, one to the person who is gathering the info, and another back to the user thanking them for sending additional info. My problem is, the middle email doesn't always get sent. I click the first submit button, I always get the email, I do the additional info, hit submit, and I always get the thanks for the more info message, but I only get the additional info message if I then hit the back button, and re-click submit! It seems like the time between messages is to short, and I'm getting these additional info messages in my undelivrable folder. How long do I need to wait between messages, and what's the best way to accomplish the waiting? two separate templates? Help! Willy Ray - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Multiple CFMail Problem
Hey All, Here's my situation. I have an application that generates 3 total emails. User clicks submit, it generates one email, then they're taken to another page on which they can submit additional info. If they do this, two more emails are created, one to the person who is gathering the info, and another back to the user thanking them for sending additional info. My problem is, the middle email doesn't always get sent. I click the first submit button, I always get the email, I do the additional info, hit submit, and I always get the thanks for the more info message, but I only get the additional info message if I then hit the back button, and re-click submit! It seems like the time between messages is to short, and I'm getting these additional info messages in my undelivrable folder. How long do I need to wait between messages, and what's the best way to accomplish the waiting? two separate templates? Help! Willy Ray - Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Certified Advanced ColdFusion Developer Westminster College __ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: MySQL Cold Fusion Question?
Brian, We're using ColdFusion 5 on LINUX and a MySQL database server. It's wicked. We had previously been using Access and NT. Everything is better on MySQL except GUI access to your data, though you can pick up freeware apps to do this. It seems to be faster, cleaner, less likely to freeze up on you. We're using MyODBC for the driver. Works good. We really like it. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/13/02 2:35:57 PM I'm new to this list, so far it's great. We run NT4, WebSitePro, Cold Fusion 5, and so far all our customer data bases are in Microsoft Access. We have 20 - 30 customers use MS Access database with CF on our Server. We have not used MySQL as of yet. I have a potential customer that has a small amount of data (500 - 600 records) in a MySQL database. How hard is it to get MySQL working on NT? How hard is it to get CF working with MySQL? I can't seem to find anything on the CF website about this. Is it possible to convert a MySQL database to MS Access? Would I want to do this? Is MySQL any better than MS Access? Brian Off list if you want at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Write flat files based on HUGE query
I have a huge query that takes about 15 minutes to run. I'm a small college, and I'm pulling data on my faculty and their class schedules, office hours for posting on the web site. My legacy administrative database was never designed for servicing the web, and it is just a terribly long request to get all of this data. Currently, I'm caching the query for a week, and that seems to work pretty well. However, I'm getting requests for changes to this application, and I'm considering a re-write. One of the ways I'm thinking about doing this is to run my mongo-query, and then loop through the results writing html, or cfm, files as I go. It would probably be about 300 pages. Is it like this: cfoutput query=mondoQuery cffile !--- set filename to #mondoQuery.id#.cfm --! !--- All my html, cfm, javascript, etc. for that ID --! /cffile cfoutput Is that the best way? Advice? Willy Ray Web Applications Developer Westminster College __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
SQL question grouping, ordering, sorting
Ok, I have a database of search strings with which users of the site have hit my search engine. I want to build a viewer so I can go in and see what people are doing without actually cracking into the database. My database isn't doing anything fancy. It's one table, consisting, essentially, of id, searchstring, casesensitive... What I want is to be able to query the database, and display the 10 or 15 most searched strings. I'm just not sure how to go about it. I can GROUP BY searchstring that get's me close, and culls out duplicate strings, but I don't know how I'd get from there to top 5 strings: 1. Happy and Go and Lucky (16 searches) 2. Moo Cow (10 searches) 3. etc. 4. etc. Any thoughts? Willy Ray ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
XML parsing for UNIX
The article in CFDJ has us instantiating a COM object in order to parse the XML, but COM is not supported on UNIX. How do we do this on UNIX? Willy ~~ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Browser client for upload files?
Alright, the client needs to upload a PDF file. How do I let the user browse their machine for the file to upload? I'd like to use CFTREE, right? I'm fuddled. Willy ~~ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
I'm an idiot...
Say, hypothetically, I had lost the password to the Cold Fusion Administrator for cf4.5 on my win2k machine. Anybody have any ideas where, *hypothetically* I might find the password in the registry or something? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Verity and Dynamic Pages
Can I use Verity to index the content on dynamic pages? What I mean is, if I put .cfm extension in my CFINDEX tag, will the cfm templates be processed by the coldfusion server before they're indexed? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Sort by 1st three letters of month?
Ok, I'm an idiot. I have my users putting in text strings for months. I need Jan. 12 to be ordered ahead of Aug. 9 These are text records. Is there any way to do this? I guess I could parse out the first three characters of whatever my user entered, run it through a big cfswitch to assign numerical values to the months, add a leading zero to the day part... Is there any easier way? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
OT: Sorry. MySQL ODBC driver for Solaris?
I have apache, MySQL and Coldfusion 4.5 running on a Solaris 8 machine. Can I configure MySQL datasources without an ODBC driver installed on the machine? I've assumed I can't, and been bashing my head up against MyODBC, but with no avail. I can set up the datasource, but it always fails. Any ideas? Anybody using this configuration? Anybody using some other ODBC driver for MySQL on Solaris? Willy Ray ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Crazy Dynamic Update/FORM Structure question
Ok, I tried plugging the content into a test update statement that I knew was working. Bombed out. Same error. There's either something in my text string that's causing a failure, or access/ODBC won't accept that big of a string. Any thoughts on making it do this? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/01 2:10:41 PM Ok, I'm having some trouble here. I don't know what the form looks like, as it's being generated dynamically. So, I figure, I'll have to loop through the FORM structure, and run a seperate update for each form element. Here's what I'm doing: cfloop collection=#form# item=i cfquery datasource=mydatasource UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent='#form[#i#]#' WHERE objectname='#i#' AND page='#FORM.page#' /cfquery /cfloop Now the first element of the loop it will hit will be a field from the form called Body. It's the first possibility, alphabetically. And value is going to be a really long string of text. I've set page on the form earlier on. It should come out like this: UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent = 'great big long string of text...' WHERE objectname = 'BODY' AND page = '1' And it does, but I get an error: ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntax error (missing operator) in query expression great big long string of text running out to a point at which it gets truncat' Then it shows my sql, and it really does look like I had hope it would...Am I just missing something in my update statement? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Crazy Dynamic Update/FORM Structure question
Good questions. The data type of the field is (MS Access) Memo. The string is about 1400 characters. But I've been doodling around this morning with it, and I've gotten it to take strings up to 2500 characters. The problem seems to be that I'm passing some sort of carriage return that's mucking up my statement. If I could just find and replace it, but I can't even figure out what the character is... [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/1/01 8:51:54 AM what's the data type of the field objectcontent and exactly how long is your string? -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 15:40 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Crazy Dynamic Update/FORM Structure question Ok, I tried plugging the content into a test update statement that I knew was working. Bombed out. Same error. There's either something in my text string that's causing a failure, or access/ODBC won't accept that big of a string. Any thoughts on making it do this? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/01 2:10:41 PM Ok, I'm having some trouble here. I don't know what the form looks like, as it's being generated dynamically. So, I figure, I'll have to loop through the FORM structure, and run a seperate update for each form element. Here's what I'm doing: cfloop collection=#form# item=i cfquery datasource=mydatasource UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent='#form[#i#]#' WHERE objectname='#i#' AND page='#FORM.page#' /cfquery /cfloop Now the first element of the loop it will hit will be a field from the form called Body. It's the first possibility, alphabetically. And value is going to be a really long string of text. I've set page on the form earlier on. It should come out like this: UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent = 'great big long string of text...' WHERE objectname = 'BODY' AND page = '1' And it does, but I get an error: ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntax error (missing operator) in query expression great big long string of text running out to a point at which it gets truncat' Then it shows my sql, and it really does look like I had hope it would...Am I just missing something in my update statement? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Crazy Dynamic Update/FORM Structure question
Wait, I think I got it. There's a apostrophe (A.K.A. single quote) in my text string. That would do it, eh? What's the function I use to fix that? PreserveSingleQuote? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 6/1/01 8:51:54 AM what's the data type of the field objectcontent and exactly how long is your string? -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 June 2001 15:40 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Crazy Dynamic Update/FORM Structure question Ok, I tried plugging the content into a test update statement that I knew was working. Bombed out. Same error. There's either something in my text string that's causing a failure, or access/ODBC won't accept that big of a string. Any thoughts on making it do this? Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/31/01 2:10:41 PM Ok, I'm having some trouble here. I don't know what the form looks like, as it's being generated dynamically. So, I figure, I'll have to loop through the FORM structure, and run a seperate update for each form element. Here's what I'm doing: cfloop collection=#form# item=i cfquery datasource=mydatasource UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent='#form[#i#]#' WHERE objectname='#i#' AND page='#FORM.page#' /cfquery /cfloop Now the first element of the loop it will hit will be a field from the form called Body. It's the first possibility, alphabetically. And value is going to be a really long string of text. I've set page on the form earlier on. It should come out like this: UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent = 'great big long string of text...' WHERE objectname = 'BODY' AND page = '1' And it does, but I get an error: ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntax error (missing operator) in query expression great big long string of text running out to a point at which it gets truncat' Then it shows my sql, and it really does look like I had hope it would...Am I just missing something in my update statement? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Crazy Dynamic Update/FORM Structure question
Ok, I'm having some trouble here. I don't know what the form looks like, as it's being generated dynamically. So, I figure, I'll have to loop through the FORM structure, and run a seperate update for each form element. Here's what I'm doing: cfloop collection=#form# item=i cfquery datasource=mydatasource UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent='#form[#i#]#' WHERE objectname='#i#' AND page='#FORM.page#' /cfquery /cfloop Now the first element of the loop it will hit will be a field from the form called Body. It's the first possibility, alphabetically. And value is going to be a really long string of text. I've set page on the form earlier on. It should come out like this: UPDATE contentitems SET objectcontent = 'great big long string of text...' WHERE objectname = 'BODY' AND page = '1' And it does, but I get an error: ODBC Error Code = 37000 (Syntax error or access violation) [Microsoft][ODBC Microsoft Access Driver] Syntax error (missing operator) in query expression great big long string of text running out to a point at which it gets truncat' Then it shows my sql, and it really does look like I had hope it would...Am I just missing something in my update statement? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Bizarre Error: Server/Studio Duplicating Carriage Returns
I'm running the eval of Cold Fusion Server 4.5 Enterprise on Redhat 7.1. When I save a template through RDS, for every carriage return I enter as I code, I get two carriage returns on the saved document. Example: I write: html head titleHello/title /head When I re-open the file it looks like this: html head titleHello/title /head What's worse, If I make a little change, like, change the Hello to Hello, World and re-save the template, the next time I open it, it looks like this: html head titlehello, world/title /head Big problem. I've got a template with only about 20 lines of actual code on it, but it's up to about 14000 lines, due to this problem. I have studio on two different machines, and it doesn't seem to matter which I use. Also, this is not happening from the same two workstations if I write to an NT machine through RDS, or through windows networking. Any ideas? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Bizarre Error: Server/Studio Duplicating Carriage Returns
Thanks. That did it. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 5/21/01 1:34:58 PM In ColdFusion Studio, under Options\Settings\File Settings tab there is a Format when saving selection. Select Unix format. Marius Milosav www.scorpiosoft.com It's not about technology, it's about people. Virtual Help Desk Demo (VHD) www.scorpiosoft.com/vhd/login.cfm - Original Message - From: Willy Ray [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:17 PM Subject: Bizarre Error: Server/Studio Duplicating Carriage Returns I'm running the eval of Cold Fusion Server 4.5 Enterprise on Redhat 7.1. When I save a template through RDS, for every carriage return I enter as I code, I get two carriage returns on the saved document. Example: I write: html head titleHello/title /head When I re-open the file it looks like this: html head titleHello/title /head What's worse, If I make a little change, like, change the Hello to Hello, World and re-save the template, the next time I open it, it looks like this: html head titlehello, world/title /head Big problem. I've got a template with only about 20 lines of actual code on it, but it's up to about 14000 lines, due to this problem. I have studio on two different machines, and it doesn't seem to matter which I use. Also, this is not happening from the same two workstations if I write to an NT machine through RDS, or through windows networking. Any ideas? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Send Cookie in custom tag?
I know I can't use CFCOOKIE above CFLOCATION on a template, but what if I had a custom tag that dropped a cookie above a CFLOCATION? Like this: cf_cookiedropper cflocation url="mypath" Would the cookie go? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
NT/2000 Vs. Solaris
Anybody have any strong feelings about which is better? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Anybody seen this before?
Error attempting to get the client (Client ID = '168975'). A problem was encountered trying to access the system registry. Error number 1450 occurred. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFAPPLICATION), occupying document position (4:1) to (8:31). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Anybody seen this before?
WellI rebooted several times. Every time, I'm getting the same result within a few minutes. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3/21/01 7:21:45 PM It means you're out of resources...maybe a reboot is in order? Regards, Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. www.CoolFusion.com 631-737-4668 x101 inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - the World's most configurable mail server Get your free copy of iMS POST-SE Server from CoolFusion! - Original Message - From: "Willy Ray" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "CF-Talk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2001 7:12 PM Subject: Anybody seen this before? Error attempting to get the client (Client ID = '168975'). A problem was encountered trying to access the system registry. Error number 1450 occurred. The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFAPPLICATION), occupying document position (4:1) to (8:31). ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Somewhat OT: Differences Between JRUN and CF
If I'm already using Coldfusion, would there be any compelling reason that I would want to use JRUN as well? What are the differences? Pros? Cons? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Client Caching of Web Pages
Is there any way I can force a client to reload a page, and not pull from their cache? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Attribute set validation Error. Why?
Yeah, I'm an idiot. I guess I'll need a group attribute [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2/26/01 1:50:53 PM This is the error I'm getting: Attribute set validation error in tag CFOUTPUT The tag has an invalid attribute combination: the most likely attribute combination is Required attributes: 'GROUP,QUERY'. Optional attributes: 'GROUPCASESENSITIVE,MAXROWS,STARTROW'. Here's the tag I'm using: cfoutput query="qMyQuery" startrow="#startrow#" maxrows="#temp#" groupcasesensitive="No" Why the hell am I getting this error? It's like the error says, "Do exactly what you're doing." I've been getting the same thing on some cfmail tags. I have all the right attributes, but it gives me this attribute set validation error. Why!? Willy Ray ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Cached Query! Was Working Yesterday!
CFQuery Retrieval of cached query failed The error occurred while processing an element with a general identifier of (CFQUERY), occupying document position (39:1) to (40:43). This is the entire message. Why would it do this? It was working yesterday, I went live with it, now it's failing. I'm going insane! ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Attribute set validation Error. Why?
This is the error I'm getting: Attribute set validation error in tag CFOUTPUT The tag has an invalid attribute combination: the most likely attribute combination is Required attributes: 'GROUP,QUERY'. Optional attributes: 'GROUPCASESENSITIVE,MAXROWS,STARTROW'. Here's the tag I'm using: cfoutput query="qMyQuery" startrow="#startrow#" maxrows="#temp#" groupcasesensitive="No" Why the hell am I getting this error? It's like the error says, "Do exactly what you're doing." I've been getting the same thing on some cfmail tags. I have all the right attributes, but it gives me this attribute set validation error. Why!? Willy Ray ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Case Sensitivity in SQL Queries
I'm pulling a great big list of faculty names from our mammoth admisitrative database. The query is alphabetizing Lowercase names after Uppercase names, so I've got a guy with a last name of van Oosterhout, and that's coming in after a guy named Zimmer. Is there some way for me to specify to the query that I don't want it to alphabetize sensitive to case? How about when I output it? What I just read regarding the groupcasesensitive attribute of cfoutput is that you set it to "no", and it will preserve the case insensitivity of an already case-insensitive query. I just wish I *had* a case-insensitive query to preserve! Willy Ray ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Encoding URL Variables
How do I encode URL variables so that I can pass semi-sensitive info over URL? Willy Ray ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
IsCachedQuery?
Is there any way to check to see if a Query is cached or not, before I call it? I have some big'uns, and I'd like to be able to handle the caching like this: The data you have requested is currently being reloaded from the main database. Please check back in 5 minutes. How would I do this? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Sub-query a cached query?
Can I make an enormous cached query, and then query those results? Say, for example, I wanted to query all customers and all invoices at once, then display a list of customers with unpayed invoices, linked with URL variables to a detail page that would show the invoice details. Could I do this with one big query, cached at the beginning, and never hit my database again until the cache expired? Willy Ray Web Designer Westminster College Salt Lake City, UT ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: connection limit has been reached?
I'm having the same problem. I'm on a winNT server to which I'm the only real connection. Does the 10 connection limit apply to web hits? I was also wondering if it might be cfhttp bogarting all of my threads on failed connections. Like a dope, I haven't written them with timeout attributes. -Original Message- From: JayB [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 5:24 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: connection limit has been reached? Or in win2k a maximum of 10 connections to anyone machine are allowed on a peer to peer network. don't forget to check in cfadmin - odbc -cfsettings for a maximum # of connections allowed.. If you are using Winders NT use the Lisence Manager to verify that you have the correct number of SQL and NT lisences for the servers. If necessary, purchase a few more. can anyone help me with this error or atleast give me an idea of what to do about it? i get it when i try to log onto the client section of the site im working on and ive never seen this before Error Diagnostic Information ODBC Error Code = () Timed-out trying to get a connection to MYDATASOURCENAME. The connection limit has been reached. ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Schedule Tasks in CFADMIN
I have a template I want to run monthly. Here's what it does: 1. Deletes all records flagged for deletion. 2. Checks for records that are a year old 3. Flags those for deletion 4. CFmails the email addresses in the year-old records, "Hey, your record is flagged for deletion. Will be deleted in a month." So every month, it would delete the records it flagged the month before, and flag some more records to be deleted the next month. Runs great when I just call the sucker in my browser. But it doesn't work when I use the administrator to schedule it. What's happening here? Why shouldn't it work out of the task scheduler? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
I'm too dumb to set a cookie!
Isn't it just cfcookie name="mycookie" value="myvalue" expires="1" domain=".mydomain.com" ? I can't make it set! My debugging data continues to show just cftoken and cfid for cookies! YEEARRRGH! Are there any special settings in administrator that inhibit cookies? Something like that? Willy ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts
Kooky Form Field/List question.
I work on a college campus, and frequently I'm asked by faculty/staff/students, why they can't just make a form in front page express and have it send them an email (and we don't have the server extensions). I have the hardest time explaining what a form handler is, and how frontpage just can't do it. So, I decided to make a generic Coldfusion form handler. Something that, provided it was passed an email address, subject line, and a redirect URL (for the success message), it would make an email to the address. Ok, this is the easy part. I have it already. The problem is, I need also to pass *any form fields* other than the ones required for the email in the body of the email. Biology is going to need different things on their form than accounting, see, so I want to make this thing totally generic. So, here's the problem. I can use the automatically-created FORM.fieldnames list to get the field names onto the email like this: cfloop index="test" list="#FORM.fieldnames#" delimiters="," #test# : br /cfloop This code puts the names of the form field onto the email. Easy. I can also test them for whether or not they're one of my required fields, and not print them if they are. What I can't do is print the VALUE of the form fields. Make sense? I was hoping I could do something like this: cfloop index="test" list="#FORM.fieldnames#" delimiters="," #test# : #FORM.#test## br /cfloop Yeah, but I can't. Any thoughts? ~~ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts
RE:Dave: Kooky Form Field/List question.
Dave,
The solution looping over list is working, but I'm not getting what you're saying
about looping over the structure. I cant seem to access the form as a structure. I'm
on CFServer 4.0. Could that be the problem? Special feature of 4.5?
Thanks
Willy
Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/20/00 9:42:16 AM
So, here's the problem. I can use the automatically-created
FORM.fieldnames list to get the field names onto the email
like this:
cfloop index="test" list="#FORM.fieldnames#" delimiters=","
#test# :br
/cfloop
This code puts the names of the form field onto the email.
Easy. I can also test them for whether or not they're one of
my required fields, and not print them if they are. What I
can't do is print the VALUE of the form fields. Make sense?
I was hoping I could do something like this:
cfloop index="test" list="#FORM.fieldnames#" delimiters=","
#test# : #FORM.#test##br
/cfloop
Yeah, but I can't. Any thoughts?
Use the Evaluate function to determine the value of a variable whose name
you don't know until runtime:
#test#: #Evaluate("Form." test)#
In addition, rather than looping over the FIELDNAMES string, you might be
better served by looping over the Form structure itself:
cfoutput
cfloop collection="#Form#" item="i"
#i#: #Evaluate("Form." i)#
/cfloop
/cfoutput
This way, if you have any duplicate field names, such as you'd get with
checkbox arrays, you'll output the fieldname once, followed by a
comma-delimited list of selected values.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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OT: Allaire Advanced Fusion Developement Class
I'm trying to get my superiors to send me to the Advanced Developement class. Anybody been to this? How did you like it? Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date Manipulation?
Ok, I have a date. I need to add a day, or a number of days. How the devil does one do this? Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date comparisons
One of the fields in my table is a datestamp. I need to be able to pull only those records whose datestamps are between certain dates. I would like to limit my query to only pull the records I need based on their dates, but frankly this app will be getting low enough usage that if I could pull all records and then evaluate whether or not to print them, that would be fine, too. Second question: Is there a good simple sql book that I could get that would keep me from having to bug the smart people everytime I can't figure out some stupid syntax problem? Willy Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT? - Cold Fusion and Datatel?
I'm a CF developer for a small college in Utah. Our main administrative database system is called "Colleague" and it's produced by a company called Datatel. Supposed to be ODBC compliant. So far all of my applications have been written on Access, however, because we haven't been able to get any ODBC drivers that would actually hit the database from my CF server. Anybody out there using Colleague and Cold Fusion together? Anybody? If so, how? I'd love to get into contact with someone with some knowledge on this. Access-based developement is starting to wear a little thin for me. Willy Ray Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hmm..Calculate Elapsed Time
I'm timestamping logins and logouts, I want to be able to calculate the time elapsed between the two. My question is, what format should I be writing these timestamps in, and I'm hoping that there's a function I can use that is smart enough to just subtract time values? Thoughts? Willy Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Hmm..Calculate Elapsed Time
You know, I've been a newbie in a lot of communities, (Quake, Diablo, College). I've never felt as supported as I do in the CF community. You guys rule. Thanks for the help. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/25/00 9:56:40 AM if you're using SQL server, there's an SQL function called DateDiff. it will calculate the difference of two date/time fields in the DB. there's also a CF function called DateDiff. it will calculate the difference of two date/time formatted strings (so you don't REALLY have to use datetime if you don't want). however, it's recommended, as the DB can do a lot of that work for you. chris olive, cio cresco technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.crescotech.com -Original Message- From: Willy Ray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 11:42 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Hmm..Calculate Elapsed Time I'm timestamping logins and logouts, I want to be able to calculate the time elapsed between the two. My question is, what format should I be writing these timestamps in, and I'm hoping that there's a function I can use that is smart enough to just subtract time values? Thoughts? Willy Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=sts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRsts or send a message with 'unsubscribe' in the body to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Access question
Now, I *had* heard of Access 2K having slight problems with simultanious requests. If, when you set up your ODBC source, you limit concurrent connections to 1, that will keep that problem from happening. Liaible to slow you down, some, though. All depends on how much traffic you're getting, I think. Willy [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/12/00 8:57:04 AM Fair enoughbut it all depends on what many is. If a client comes to me asking for a small, half a dozen page data driven web site where there is very little dynamic content why would I suggest using SQL. The price of the DB software would probably be more than the total development for the site! There would be litte or no danger of Access bringing down CF providing that traffic was monitoredsure if it runs like a dog because of loads of hits then move to SQL I developed a small site for a TV company which had thousands of hits a day while the series was running. They updated the content on the site by changing the samll amount of data stored in an Access database. Site worked fine...no probs. SQL would have been a coplete overkill I disagree with your comment "Access is NOT by strict definition a multi user database. SQL is." Access is a multiuser database. Just that SQL is a better one -- Andrew Ewings Project Manager Thoughtbubble Ltd -- -Original Message- From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 October 2000 15:47 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access question Hey Andy, I refer you to his original question: "Can it handle simultaneous access from many users or is SQL better for this". His "problem" was many users, not a small db. Nonetheless, I agree with Bill's quote. But ask yourself a question, why would you ever propose or use a solution that MIGHT bring CF down? I've never heard of SQL Server bring CF down. I've personally experienced Access bringing CF down. Access is NOT by strict definition a multi user database. SQL is. AJ -Original Message- From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 10:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access question Aaron - I refer you to Bill's excellent quote: "Don't provide a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem" There's no point forking out for a SQL internet license if you can use Access for free and it does the job you need it too. Don't get me wron - I admit SQL is a thousand times better than Access but if you've only got a tiny database, what's the point? -- Andrew Ewings Project Manager Thoughtbubble Ltd -- -Original Message- From: Aaron Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 October 2000 15:33 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access question Sure, it can "handle" simultaneous Access from many users. A bunny might be able to handle a wolf for about 2 seconds, then it dies. Same with Access. I've had sites crash every 2 minutes using Access, move it to SQL and it works fine. Use SQL. Don't screw with Access. AJ -Original Message- From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 10:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access question It can handle simultaneous Access. Access is just a toned down version of SQL (which it sounds like you already know). You should base your decision to upsize to SQL purely on the performance of your site and size that your database grows to. As far as simultaneous access is concerned, obviously SQL will be better but may be overkill depending on the amount of traffic that goes through the database. In the words of someone else using this usergroup (I think it was Bill!) - "Don't provide a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem" Apollogies Bill if I miss quoted you! -- Andrew Ewings Project Manager Thoughtbubble Ltd -- -Original Message- From: Robert Orlini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 October 2000 16:05 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access question Thanks for the quick reply. At this point I am more concerned about simultaneous access. Can it handle simultaneous access from many users or is SQL better for this. Thanks Andy. Robert O. -Original Message- From: Andy Ewings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2000 8:49 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Access question How much data is in the table? I would be extremely surprised if this was due to there being too much data in the table. I think the maximum size of an Access mdb is approx 2gb but I aint sure about this. I know that you can have a whole load of records in a table though (millions) not that you'd want to of course for performance reasons.
Slightly Off-Topic: Credit Card Wackyness
Alright, so I got the SSL working, and I'm pleased with that, now my head is spinning with the possibility of credit card usage on my little higher-educational website (I'm tired of doing job boards, admissions applications). I have no idea what I need in order to do this. Do I need some credit card hardware? Some sort of networkable swiper box? Can I do it with just cold fusion and an I.P. address? Babe in the woods, here, people. Willy Ray Westminster College -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebarRstsbodyRsts/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
RE: Slightly Off-Topic: Credit Card Wackyness
Well, I'm at a small college. I'd like the students to be able to pay tuition, fees, etc. w/ their creditcards over the website. The accounting office has a swiper unit that they use at the cashiers window. Would that be a "Merchant Account?" Do I need to figure out with them how that works, then talk to the people that they have that through? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/5/00 8:38:50 AM -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alright, so I got the SSL working, and I'm pleased with that, now my head is spinning with the possibility of credit card usage on my little higher-educational website (I'm tired of doing job boards, admissions applications). I have no idea what I need in order to do this. Do I need some credit card hardware? Some sort of networkable swiper box? Can I do it with just cold fusion and an I.P. address? Babe in the woods, here, people. Oh boy... Here's a question w/ no easy answer... There's about a million one ways you can do credit card processing. First question: Do you have a merchant account with a bank, or do you think you can get one easily (IE: established company w/ good credit rating in good standing w/ the bank)? If the answer to that is NO, then you'll need to user one of the various services that provide full credit card billing w/o the user needing a merchant account. I'm not sure whether you're selling site access (or other intangibles) or if you're selling a product, but that would affect your choice of processors. This type of processor will charge you a mint for their services, but they might be your only choice if you can't get a merchant account. They also usually add additional fraud detection systems which are EXCEEDINGLY useful for membership-type sales. Some places to start looking: www.ibill.com, www.ccbill.com, and a sh'load of others I can't think of off the top of my head. IBILL has been our best bet for a while now. We DO have a merchant account, but the reduction in fraud w/ IBILL's fraud detection and negative database has MORE than made up for the 15% cut they take for their service. If you do have or can get a merchant account, you'll likely want to look at processing the cards through your own account. That way, you'll probably end up paying minimal fees (3-5%) and perhaps a small per-transaction fee ($.10 - $.35 per charge). Now... Simply having a merchant account doesn't magically get you Internet CC billing (bummer...). You'll need some software to pull it off... CyberCash seems to be a popular choice. Depending on your bank, the CyberCash transactions fees might be covered for you, leaving you only the 3-5% bank cut. Our bank covers the CyberCash fees for us. That said, I haven't been too thrilled w/ CyberCash personally. I'm especially displeased w/ the ColdFusion options for accessing the CyberCash servers. On CyberCash's side, Address Verification Services (AVS) are frequently unavailable even for cards that I *know* support AVS. That makes it tougher to control fraud. As for the ColdFusion software, it's kind of a mess... CyberCash doesn't actually supply CF tags or anything of the sort. They give you a COM object, but the amount of supporting code to drive the COM is pretty heavy. That code is available in Perl, C, or ASP, but not CF. Porting it would NOT be fun... There are a number of CyberCash tags available from third parties. Allaire ONCR both make tags. Allaire's only does authorizations, not batch settlements, and it's not thread safe (CFLOCK is a MUST!). Version 3 of the ONCR tag seems to leak memory during auths, but it does handle batch decently. It WILL occasionally crash however. That leaves your batch in an unknown state requires much manual intervention cursing to straighten things up. That happens perhaps once every two months or so. ONCR does have a version 4 available of their tag which they claim is much better. I'd give it a try if not for the $ticker $hock Even with all those caveats against CyberCash, I feel it's the best solution available if you have a merchant account. I'd certainly be interested in others' experiences with other processor software, tho! Hope that was at least helpful. I can provide more detailed information about either IBILL or CyberCash when you decide which route you're going to take. Best regards, Zac Bedell -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use http://www.pgp.com iQA/AwUBOdySegraVoMWBwRBEQIllgCg2B+4utyhed9PcotSMtd/Vc1jJSMAn2CQ VsZNko+pMHbaMUetIiGNiTeG =5Pfl -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body. --
CFIF and CFELSE
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