RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Honestly my goal was not to get the software, my goal has been met actually, got people talking about it. That goal seems unworthy of your time and effort. What consensus have we all reached about the Partner program? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Well the goal was sort of worthythe squeaky wheel gets the oil and all that ;-) I still think the program is worth the money even though nobody ever likes to get less stuff for more money. I'm sure it's just MM's way of trying to stop everybody from using NFR software for development purposes. It's a WAY better method than say the Win XP registration/big brother approach ;-) It all comes down to whether or not you can handle some poor communication and lack of organization while the merger wrinkles get ironed out, and if the money is worth the software/exposure/new licenses/credibility etc. Merry Ho-Ho all Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 11:50 AM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Honestly my goal was not to get the software, my goal has been met actually, got people talking about it. That goal seems unworthy of your time and effort. What consensus have we all reached about the Partner program? Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing... Personally I think MM could care less about the Allaire Partners I'm sorry that something isn't smooth for you, and sorrier still that I don't know those details myself. But have you considered contacting the partner program directly? That'd be the fastest way to get set up like other folks, thanks. I'd like to second this. Fig Leaf has been a partner with Allaire and Macromedia, and we ran into some of the same issues such as waiting for software. We simply contacted the people running the partner program, and they handled our requests personally. It's not a matter of care, but rather the natural result of the amalgamation of the two companies. There have been, and are going to be, a few things like this, but in my experience, if you just contact the appropriate people, they'll do their best to resolve your problems. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
True, suppose we could contact those people directly again and ask if partners are getting Studio 5 and if partners are getting CF 5 server in any other version besides Windows. That of course is what we did before in regards to other issues and yes they did take care of them. I just get the impression that they do not care about the Allaire partner program. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Dave Watts wrote: At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing... Personally I think MM could care less about the Allaire Partners I'm sorry that something isn't smooth for you, and sorrier still that I don't know those details myself. But have you considered contacting the partner program directly? That'd be the fastest way to get set up like other folks, thanks. I'd like to second this. Fig Leaf has been a partner with Allaire and Macromedia, and we ran into some of the same issues such as waiting for software. We simply contacted the people running the partner program, and they handled our requests personally. It's not a matter of care, but rather the natural result of the amalgamation of the two companies. There have been, and are going to be, a few things like this, but in my experience, if you just contact the appropriate people, they'll do their best to resolve your problems. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
True, suppose we could contact those people directly again and ask if partners are getting Studio 5 and if partners are getting CF 5 server in any other version besides Windows. That of course is what we did before in regards to other issues and yes they did take care of them. I just get the impression that they do not care about the Allaire partner program. Under the new program, I don't think you get Studio, or any other IDE tools. You just get server products. As for non-Windows versions of CF, we didn't get shrinkwrap copies, but they were very helpful about getting serial numbers to me when I requested them. I got them the same day I requested them, even though they had to bounce a bunch of internal emails back and forth (which they cc'd me on). I didn't get the impression that they didn't care. I did get the impression that they're having the kind of issues you might expect as a result of a merger. Remember that, for a while after the merger, a lot of this stuff was still separated into the MM and Allaire portions. They're still merging these things, and there are going to be issues that occur along the way. For example, the training arms of both are just now merging into one, and there have been minor issues, but overall, I think they're doing a good job - and the eventual result should be better than the previous state of affairs. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Under the new program? So the program that we signed up on is no longer supported? Thought it was until it expired and then it was either step up to the new program or talk a long walk off a short pier. I guess with a merger, they can do what they want to and not honor any previous agreements. Again, in my opinion, it is more of not caring about the old and caring more about how to handle the new. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Dave Watts wrote: True, suppose we could contact those people directly again and ask if partners are getting Studio 5 and if partners are getting CF 5 server in any other version besides Windows. That of course is what we did before in regards to other issues and yes they did take care of them. I just get the impression that they do not care about the Allaire partner program. Under the new program, I don't think you get Studio, or any other IDE too ls. You just get server products. As for non-Windows versions of CF, we didn't get shrinkwrap copies, but t hey were very helpful about getting serial numbers to me when I requested the m. I got them the same day I requested them, even though they had to bounce a bunch of internal emails back and forth (which they cc'd me on). I didn't get the impression that they didn't care. I did get the impressi on that they're having the kind of issues you might expect as a result of a merger. Remember that, for a while after the merger, a lot of this stuff was still separated into the MM and Allaire portions. They're still merging these things, and there are going to be issues that occur along the way. For example, the training arms of both are just now merging into one, and the re have been minor issues, but overall, I think they're doing a good job - a nd the eventual result should be better than the previous state of affairs. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year. Its no longer worth it to me or my company. Duane -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Under the new program? So the program that we signed up on is no longer supported? Thought it was until it expired and then it was either step up to the new program or talk a long walk off a short pier. I guess with a merger, they can do what they want to and not honor any previous agreements. Again, in my opinion, it is more of not caring about the old and caring more about how to handle the new. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Dave Watts wrote: True, suppose we could contact those people directly again and ask if partners are getting Studio 5 and if partners are getting CF 5 server in any other version besides Windows. That of course is what we did before in regards to other issues and yes they did take care of them. I just get the impression that they do not care about the Allaire partner program. Under the new program, I don't think you get Studio, or any other IDE too ls. You just get server products. As for non-Windows versions of CF, we didn't get shrinkwrap copies, but t hey were very helpful about getting serial numbers to me when I requested the m. I got them the same day I requested them, even though they had to bounce a bunch of internal emails back and forth (which they cc'd me on). I didn't get the impression that they didn't care. I did get the impressi on that they're having the kind of issues you might expect as a result of a merger. Remember that, for a while after the merger, a lot of this stuff was still separated into the MM and Allaire portions. They're still merging these things, and there are going to be issues that occur along the way. For example, the training arms of both are just now merging into one, and the re have been minor issues, but overall, I think they're doing a good job - a nd the eventual result should be better than the previous state of affairs. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Same here, guess it was nice while it lasted though. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Duane Boudreau wrote: That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year. Its no longer worth it to me or my company. Duane -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 11:52 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Under the new program? So the program that we signed up on is no longer supported? Thought it was until it expired and then it was either step u p to the new program or talk a long walk off a short pier. I guess with a merger, they can do what they want to and not honor any previous agreements. Again, in my opinion, it is more of not caring about the old and caring more about how to handle the new. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Dave Watts wrote: True, suppose we could contact those people directly again and ask if partners are getting Studio 5 and if partners are getting CF 5 server in any other version besides Windows. That of course is what we did before in regards to other issues and yes they did take care of them. I just get the impression that they do not care about the Allaire partner program. Under the new program, I don't think you get Studio, or any other IDE t oo ls. You just get server products. As for non-Windows versions of CF, we didn't get shrinkwrap copies, but t hey were very helpful about getting serial numbers to me when I requested t he m. I got them the same day I requested them, even though they had to bounc e a bunch of internal emails back and forth (which they cc'd me on). I didn't get the impression that they didn't care. I did get the impres si on that they're having the kind of issues you might expect as a result of a merger. Remember that, for a while after the merger, a lot of this stuf f was still separated into the MM and Allaire portions. They're still merging these things, and there are going to be issues that occur along the way . For example, the training arms of both are just now merging into one, and t he re have been minor issues, but overall, I think they're doing a good job - a nd the eventual result should be better than the previous state of affairs . Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year. Its no longer worth it to me or my company. Same here, guess it was nice while it lasted though. Sorry to hear that, but if you have a few minutes, then could you drop a note to the Partners team and tell them how the service no longer met your needs? That would give them the feedback they'd need to tune things better in the future, thanks. The contact link is here: http://www.macromedia.com/partners/ tx, jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
the price hike and the decreased number of products did it for me -Original Message- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year. Its no longer worth it to me or my company. Same here, guess it was nice while it lasted though. Sorry to hear that, but if you have a few minutes, then could you drop a note to the Partners team and tell them how the service no longer met your needs? That would give them the feedback they'd need to tune things better in the future, thanks. The contact link is here: http://www.macromedia.com/partners/ tx, jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire Partner upgrades...
yer rightold agreements are in place until they expire...but if it hasn't expired already it must be soonthe merger was a while ago ;-) For all you're MM partnership woes...contact Robin Craig Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: Aaron Rouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 8:52 AM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Under the new program? So the program that we signed up on is no longer supported? Thought it was until it expired and then it was either step up to the new program or talk a long walk off a short pier. I guess with a merger, they can do what they want to and not honor any previous agreements. Again, in my opinion, it is more of not caring about the old and caring more about how to handle the new. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Dave Watts wrote: True, suppose we could contact those people directly again and ask if partners are getting Studio 5 and if partners are getting CF 5 server in any other version besides Windows. That of course is what we did before in regards to other issues and yes they did take care of them. I just get the impression that they do not care about the Allaire partner program. Under the new program, I don't think you get Studio, or any other IDE too ls. You just get server products. As for non-Windows versions of CF, we didn't get shrinkwrap copies, but t hey were very helpful about getting serial numbers to me when I requested the m. I got them the same day I requested them, even though they had to bounce a bunch of internal emails back and forth (which they cc'd me on). I didn't get the impression that they didn't care. I did get the impressi on that they're having the kind of issues you might expect as a result of a merger. Remember that, for a while after the merger, a lot of this stuff was still separated into the MM and Allaire portions. They're still merging these things, and there are going to be issues that occur along the way. For example, the training arms of both are just now merging into one, and the re have been minor issues, but overall, I think they're doing a good job - a nd the eventual result should be better than the previous state of affairs. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this reply... IMHO - Alot of people used the partner program to get a free copy of all the software and try before you buy. Some partners undoubtedly use the software for development, which I don't think is permitted in the license of the partner software packages. Getting upset because CF Studio isn't included in the partnership anymore is a little tricky because it really makes me ask, why are these people upset? You don't need it to evaluate it, there's a 30 day demo for that... If you are using CF Studio for development of sites, you should own legit full licenses of Studio. I would expect that any company who uses CF enough to get a partnership should be using CF Studio daily already, and therefore would own full legit licenses of the Studio product. So why would you need it in the partner package? You already own a copy. Unless of course you are using the free partner software illegally. No, I am not accusing anyone on the list of anything... It's just hard for me to think of any valid reasons you'd actually need a NFR copy of Studio as a partner... I suppose if you were a distribution/sales partner you might need it to demo capabilities to a client, but how often does it really happen that you sit down in front of a computer with a potential sale (person) and do a live demo of Studio? I'd say probably very rarely. Most distribution/sales partners just sell the product, no demo, just how many you want?. Having said that, ok I'll give in that the distribution/sales partners may need Studio on some rare occasions... But why would the rest of us need it? Seriously, not trying to bash anyone here, I am truly curious to hear real scenarios where a partner needed a partner copy of Studio? I think many people have the belief that if you get less stuff it must be a bad thing. Well, I'm not sure we have EVER used our partner copy of Studio. We have several client licenses for the product, and use those for our development. I have no need for a copy of Studio in the partner program. So then it must be the other parts of the partner program that are lacking? Are we all partners just for all the free stuff, of do we actually expect something more from the program? I mean lets face it, that's really why many of us participate. Get free stuff, put it on your laptop, put it on your home computer, put it on computers around the office... Not legal, but we all know it happens, and not just a little, it happens ALOT... Now they are taking away the free stuff, and it turns out there's nothing else of interest left in the program? Lets all be realistic and come up with reasons that we actually NEED the free stuff. Again, not trying to bash anyone or accuse anyone of anything, but if all we do is whine that the free stuff is gone, I seriously doubt it's gonna change anything. Questions: Why do you need the free stuff, and why doesn't the 30 day trial software fill this need? What, in addition to the items listed on the partner program overview do we need/expect? http://spectra15.macromedia.com/overview/NA_benefits.cfm -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year. Its no longer worth it to me or my company. Same here, guess it was nice while it lasted though. Sorry to hear that, but if you have a few minutes, then could you drop a note to the Partners team and tell them how the service no longer met your needs? That would give them the feedback they'd need to tune things better in the future, thanks. The contact link is here: http://www.macromedia.com/partners/ tx, jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire Partner upgrades...
I agree with Cameron excpet for 1 item he didn't mention (and yes I know he's not bashing anyone). The free stuff (bad description but we all know what it means) is gone in the new MM partnership agreement although the new licensing agreement makes it legal to use the software for development purposes. So there is still a bonus...if MM ever does a license audit of your company you won't get sued ;-) It's also useful to appear as a professional when you tell clients you are a MM partner for blah blah. There is definately a certain level of credibilty and professionalism added when you can do this (personally I think the partnership program is too easy to get into and more of a cash grab...but I digress...). The one issue I have is the new price...it's now $795 USD a year up from the old $500 USD (or around there). Lets do the math MM partnership = higher price.less software...better license Allaire partnership = lower priceWAY more software...restricted license I'd be a lot happier if the price had stayed the same...that way we get less software but it can legally be used for development. Cameron nailed it though...I think a lot of complaints are because people can't get a free copy of Studio etc. that they weren't supposed to be using for development in the first place. Just buy Studio. One contract should more than pay for it. My 2 cents...flame away ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:25 PM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this reply... IMHO - Alot of people used the partner program to get a free copy of all the software and try before you buy. Some partners undoubtedly use the software for development, which I don't think is permitted in the license of the partner software packages. Getting upset because CF Studio isn't included in the partnership anymore is a little tricky because it really makes me ask, why are these people upset? You don't need it to evaluate it, there's a 30 day demo for that... If you are using CF Studio for development of sites, you should own legit full licenses of Studio. I would expect that any company who uses CF enough to get a partnership should be using CF Studio daily already, and therefore would own full legit licenses of the Studio product. So why would you need it in the partner package? You already own a copy. Unless of course you are using the free partner software illegally. No, I am not accusing anyone on the list of anything... It's just hard for me to think of any valid reasons you'd actually need a NFR copy of Studio as a partner... I suppose if you were a distribution/sales partner you might need it to demo capabilities to a client, but how often does it really happen that you sit down in front of a computer with a potential sale (person) and do a live demo of Studio? I'd say probably very rarely. Most distribution/sales partners just sell the product, no demo, just how many you want?. Having said that, ok I'll give in that the distribution/sales partners may need Studio on some rare occasions... But why would the rest of us need it? Seriously, not trying to bash anyone here, I am truly curious to hear real scenarios where a partner needed a partner copy of Studio? I think many people have the belief that if you get less stuff it must be a bad thing. Well, I'm not sure we have EVER used our partner copy of Studio. We have several client licenses for the product, and use those for our development. I have no need for a copy of Studio in the partner program. So then it must be the other parts of the partner program that are lacking? Are we all partners just for all the free stuff, of do we actually expect something more from the program? I mean lets face it, that's really why many of us participate. Get free stuff, put it on your laptop, put it on your home computer, put it on computers around the office... Not legal, but we all know it happens, and not just a little, it happens ALOT... Now they are taking away the free stuff, and it turns out there's nothing else of interest left in the program? Lets all be realistic and come up with reasons that we actually NEED the free stuff. Again, not trying to bash anyone or accuse anyone of anything, but if all we do is whine that the free stuff is gone, I seriously doubt it's gonna change anything. Questions: Why do you need the free stuff, and why doesn't the 30 day trial software fill this need? What, in addition to the items listed on the partner program overview do we need/expect? http://spectra15.macromedia.com/overview/NA_benefits.cfm -Cameron
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Actually my reason for being upset is getting told one thing and it never happening on multiple occasions. Sure, we could have contacted them and asked why they told us this was going to happen and it never did and THEN it would happen. Not like it was a huge expense to become a partner, but when you pay for something, it seems only right that the vender hold up to their end of the agreement, which they will if you take the effort to bug them. I see it like this, if you are a developer and you get paid up front for a site to be made and you do no coding on it but tell the client the site will be up, then the client asks where the site is and then you code it and deploy it ... think the client would continue to use that developer or think the developer just did not care? Now, I will admit I think had we had CF5 Server for Linux in our hands on a couple of occasions we could have shown some clients how some of the new tags and speed improvements would have helped them and sold them on upgrading to that. However that too is not really a huge deal. as far as studio, I think our copy of 4.5 or whatever it is that came with the partner package is still inside its original seal. Oh well, it is Friday, almost weekend time and that is a good thing. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Fri, 21 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this reply... IMHO - Alot of people used the partner program to get a free copy of all the software and try before you buy. Some partners undoubtedly use the software for development, which I don't think is permitted in the license of the partner software packages. Getting upset because CF Studio isn't included in the partnership anymore is a little tricky because it really makes me ask, why are these people upset? You don't need it to evaluate it, there's a 30 day demo for that... If you are using CF Studio for development of sites, you should own legit full licenses of Studio. I would expect that any company who uses CF eno ugh to get a partnership should be using CF Studio daily already, and therefo re would own full legit licenses of the Studio product. So why would you ne ed it in the partner package? You already own a copy. Unless of course you are using the free partner software illegally. No, I am not accusing any one on the list of anything... It's just hard for me to think of any valid reasons you'd actually need a NFR copy of Studio as a partner... I suppose if you were a distribution/sales partner you might need it to d emo capabilities to a client, but how often does it really happen that you si t down in front of a computer with a potential sale (person) and do a live demo of Studio? I'd say probably very rarely. Most distribution/sales partners just sell the product, no demo, just how many you want?. Having said that, ok I'll give in that the distribution/sales partners ma y need Studio on some rare occasions... But why would the rest of us need it? Seriously, not trying to bash anyone here, I am truly curious to hear rea l scenarios where a partner needed a partner copy of Studio? I think many people have the belief that if you get less stuff it must b e a bad thing. Well, I'm not sure we have EVER used our partner copy of Studio. We have several client licenses for the product, and use those f or our development. I have no need for a copy of Studio in the partner program. So then it must be the other parts of the partner program that are lackin g? Are we all partners just for all the free stuff, of do we actually expe ct something more from the program? I mean lets face it, that's really why many of us participate. Get free stuff, put it on your laptop, put it on your home computer, put it on computers around the office... Not legal, but we all know it happens, and not just a little, it happens ALOT... Now th ey are taking away the free stuff, and it turns out there's nothing else of interest left in the program? Lets all be realistic and come up with reasons that we actually NEED the free stuff. Again, not trying to bash anyone or accuse anyone of anything, but if all we do is whine that the free stuff is gone, I seriou sly doubt it's gonna change anything. Questions: Why do you need the free stuff, and why doesn't the 30 day trial softwa re fill this need? What, in addition to the items listed on the partner program overview do we need/expect? http://spectra15.macromedia.com/overview/NA_benefits.cfm -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year
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I have been reading this thread with some interest and would like to toss out a couple of questions.Concerning the use of the free software if you can not use it for development purposes then what is it for? What is the benefit to a small company to be a partner? Other than having the company name on a list that someone might see and a logo for the company site what is the return on investment of the $800 it cost to be an Associate Partner? Based on the threads I have seen about the program as a small business owner I would wonder if my money is not better used for some other purpose as I have not seen any positive comments about the program on this list. I can see where there are benefits for Premier or Alliance partners but not for an Associate. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this reply... IMHO - Alot of people used the partner program to get a free copy of all the software and try before you buy. Some partners undoubtedly use the software for development, which I don't think is permitted in the license of the partner software packages. Getting upset because CF Studio isn't included in the partnership anymore is a little tricky because it really makes me ask, why are these people upset? You don't need it to evaluate it, there's a 30 day demo for that... If you are using CF Studio for development of sites, you should own legit full licenses of Studio. I would expect that any company who uses CF enough to get a partnership should be using CF Studio daily already, and therefore would own full legit licenses of the Studio product. So why would you need it in the partner package? You already own a copy. Unless of course you are using the free partner software illegally. No, I am not accusing anyone on the list of anything... It's just hard for me to think of any valid reasons you'd actually need a NFR copy of Studio as a partner... I suppose if you were a distribution/sales partner you might need it to demo capabilities to a client, but how often does it really happen that you sit down in front of a computer with a potential sale (person) and do a live demo of Studio? I'd say probably very rarely. Most distribution/sales partners just sell the product, no demo, just how many you want?. Having said that, ok I'll give in that the distribution/sales partners may need Studio on some rare occasions... But why would the rest of us need it? Seriously, not trying to bash anyone here, I am truly curious to hear real scenarios where a partner needed a partner copy of Studio? I think many people have the belief that if you get less stuff it must be a bad thing. Well, I'm not sure we have EVER used our partner copy of Studio. We have several client licenses for the product, and use those for our development. I have no need for a copy of Studio in the partner program. So then it must be the other parts of the partner program that are lacking? Are we all partners just for all the free stuff, of do we actually expect something more from the program? I mean lets face it, that's really why many of us participate. Get free stuff, put it on your laptop, put it on your home computer, put it on computers around the office... Not legal, but we all know it happens, and not just a little, it happens ALOT... Now they are taking away the free stuff, and it turns out there's nothing else of interest left in the program? Lets all be realistic and come up with reasons that we actually NEED the free stuff. Again, not trying to bash anyone or accuse anyone of anything, but if all we do is whine that the free stuff is gone, I seriously doubt it's gonna change anything. Questions: Why do you need the free stuff, and why doesn't the 30 day trial software fill this need? What, in addition to the items listed on the partner program overview do we need/expect? http://spectra15.macromedia.com/overview/NA_benefits.cfm -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: John Dowdell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 2:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... That's why I'm not renewing my partnership this year. Its no longer worth it to me or my company. Same here, guess it was nice while it lasted though. Sorry to hear that, but if you have a few minutes, then could you drop a note to the Partners team and tell them how the service no longer met your needs? That would give them the feedback they'd need to tune things better in the future, thanks. The contact link is here: http://www.macromedia.com/partners/ tx, jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http
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1) The OLD program software was for demoing purposes only. The NEW program you can use it for development. 2) The listing on the site and the use of the MM logo on your site adds credibility to you as a developer of CF a stuff 3) There are all kinds of marketing materials etc. that you can grab from the partners only section which you can use to sell CF to your potential clients. There are PowerPoint presentations, white papers etc. that can help convince them that CF rules the world ;-) So you can pay $800 a year for a $5000 CF Server 5 Enterprise and get those benefits or not...it's your choice. Now...don't get me wrong..the merger pains suck right now. There doesn't seem to be any clear pattern to what's going on and communications have ben vague at best. I'd say given some time things should straighten themselves out. Personally I think the $300 price hike is a bit much, but time are hard and I'm sure MM is grabbing a few extra bucks where ever they can. All in all it's worth the money even if all you use is the copy of CF Server 5 you get.1 contract should make your ROI. If not then you're doing REALLY small projects or you should charge more ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: Keen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... I have been reading this thread with some interest and would like to toss out a couple of questions.Concerning the use of the free software if you can not use it for development purposes then what is it for? What is the benefit to a small company to be a partner? Other than having the company name on a list that someone might see and a logo for the company site what is the return on investment of the $800 it cost to be an Associate Partner? Based on the threads I have seen about the program as a small business owner I would wonder if my money is not better used for some other purpose as I have not seen any positive comments about the program on this list. I can see where there are benefits for Premier or Alliance partners but not for an Associate. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this reply... IMHO - Alot of people used the partner program to get a free copy of all the software and try before you buy. Some partners undoubtedly use the software for development, which I don't think is permitted in the license of the partner software packages. Getting upset because CF Studio isn't included in the partnership anymore is a little tricky because it really makes me ask, why are these people upset? You don't need it to evaluate it, there's a 30 day demo for that... If you are using CF Studio for development of sites, you should own legit full licenses of Studio. I would expect that any company who uses CF enough to get a partnership should be using CF Studio daily already, and therefore would own full legit licenses of the Studio product. So why would you need it in the partner package? You already own a copy. Unless of course you are using the free partner software illegally. No, I am not accusing anyone on the list of anything... It's just hard for me to think of any valid reasons you'd actually need a NFR copy of Studio as a partner... I suppose if you were a distribution/sales partner you might need it to demo capabilities to a client, but how often does it really happen that you sit down in front of a computer with a potential sale (person) and do a live demo of Studio? I'd say probably very rarely. Most distribution/sales partners just sell the product, no demo, just how many you want?. Having said that, ok I'll give in that the distribution/sales partners may need Studio on some rare occasions... But why would the rest of us need it? Seriously, not trying to bash anyone here, I am truly curious to hear real scenarios where a partner needed a partner copy of Studio? I think many people have the belief that if you get less stuff it must be a bad thing. Well, I'm not sure we have EVER used our partner copy of Studio. We have several client licenses for the product, and use those for our development. I have no need for a copy of Studio in the partner program. So then it must be the other parts of the partner program that are lacking? Are we all partners just for all the free stuff, of do we actually expect something more from the program? I mean lets face it, that's really why many of us participate. Get free stuff, put it on your laptop, put it on your home computer, put it on computers around the office
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Thanks -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:54 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire Partner upgrades... 1) The OLD program software was for demoing purposes only. The NEW program you can use it for development. 2) The listing on the site and the use of the MM logo on your site adds credibility to you as a developer of CF a stuff 3) There are all kinds of marketing materials etc. that you can grab from the partners only section which you can use to sell CF to your potential clients. There are PowerPoint presentations, white papers etc. that can help convince them that CF rules the world ;-) So you can pay $800 a year for a $5000 CF Server 5 Enterprise and get those benefits or not...it's your choice. Now...don't get me wrong..the merger pains suck right now. There doesn't seem to be any clear pattern to what's going on and communications have ben vague at best. I'd say given some time things should straighten themselves out. Personally I think the $300 price hike is a bit much, but time are hard and I'm sure MM is grabbing a few extra bucks where ever they can. All in all it's worth the money even if all you use is the copy of CF Server 5 you get.1 contract should make your ROI. If not then you're doing REALLY small projects or you should charge more ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: Keen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 1:40 PM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... I have been reading this thread with some interest and would like to toss out a couple of questions.Concerning the use of the free software if you can not use it for development purposes then what is it for? What is the benefit to a small company to be a partner? Other than having the company name on a list that someone might see and a logo for the company site what is the return on investment of the $800 it cost to be an Associate Partner? Based on the threads I have seen about the program as a small business owner I would wonder if my money is not better used for some other purpose as I have not seen any positive comments about the program on this list. I can see where there are benefits for Premier or Alliance partners but not for an Associate. -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 12:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... CCing [EMAIL PROTECTED] on this reply... IMHO - Alot of people used the partner program to get a free copy of all the software and try before you buy. Some partners undoubtedly use the software for development, which I don't think is permitted in the license of the partner software packages. Getting upset because CF Studio isn't included in the partnership anymore is a little tricky because it really makes me ask, why are these people upset? You don't need it to evaluate it, there's a 30 day demo for that... If you are using CF Studio for development of sites, you should own legit full licenses of Studio. I would expect that any company who uses CF enough to get a partnership should be using CF Studio daily already, and therefore would own full legit licenses of the Studio product. So why would you need it in the partner package? You already own a copy. Unless of course you are using the free partner software illegally. No, I am not accusing anyone on the list of anything... It's just hard for me to think of any valid reasons you'd actually need a NFR copy of Studio as a partner... I suppose if you were a distribution/sales partner you might need it to demo capabilities to a client, but how often does it really happen that you sit down in front of a computer with a potential sale (person) and do a live demo of Studio? I'd say probably very rarely. Most distribution/sales partners just sell the product, no demo, just how many you want?. Having said that, ok I'll give in that the distribution/sales partners may need Studio on some rare occasions... But why would the rest of us need it? Seriously, not trying to bash anyone here, I am truly curious to hear real scenarios where a partner needed a partner copy of Studio? I think many people have the belief that if you get less stuff it must be a bad thing. Well, I'm not sure we have EVER used our partner copy of Studio. We have several client licenses for the product, and use those for our development. I have no need for a copy of Studio in the partner program. So then it must be the other parts of the partner program that are lacking? Are we all partners just for all the free stuff, of do we actually expect something more from the program? I
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Under the new program? So the program that we signed up on is no longer supported? Thought it was until it expired and then it was either step up to the new program or talk a long walk off a short pier. I guess with a merger, they can do what they want to and not honor any previous agreements. I suspect that if your old membership has not yet expired, you can ask them for a copy of Studio. My main point was simply that, when I contacted them about what I needed, they were more than happy to help me out, and they did so very quickly. They seem a bit disorganized, which I think is to be expected, but were still helpful. Rather than continuing this conversation with me, which will get you absolutely nowhere in your goal to get the stuff you want, you're probably better off taking it up directly with the folks at the partner program. Good luck, and let the list know about your success or failure with this. Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software http://www.figleaf.com/ voice: (202) 797-5496 fax: (202) 797-5444 __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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Does this mean that I shouldn't have sold my fulfillment copy of Studio on Ebay? g __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
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At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care less about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whatever that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included the server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting to convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes. If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just a limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
We received our upgrade copy of CF 5 Server with no prodding on our side. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care less about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whatever that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included the server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Was it just for Windows or did you get the Linux version as well? We recieved an email saying they were bing chipped out, it was a general email to all partners. Months later, still no packages and after a couple of emails(prodding) we finally got a upgrade copy of CF 5 Server for windows, actually it might be a full copy come to think of it. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: We received our upgrade copy of CF 5 Server with no prodding on our side. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care le ss about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whatever that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included t he server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is eas y with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limi ted in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper objec t that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
It was an upgrade for Windows. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Was it just for Windows or did you get the Linux version as well? We recieved an email saying they were bing chipped out, it was a general email to all partners. Months later, still no packages and after a couple of emails(prodding) we finally got a upgrade copy of CF 5 Server for windows, actually it might be a full copy come to think of it. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: We received our upgrade copy of CF 5 Server with no prodding on our side. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care le ss about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whatever that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included t he server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is eas y with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limi ted in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Should the partners have not also got a Linux version? When we first became a Partner we got all of the Allaire products for all of the different OS's. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: It was an upgrade for Windows. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Was it just for Windows or did you get the Linux version as well? We recieved an email saying they were bing chipped out, it was a general email to all partners. Months later, still no packages and after a cou ple of emails(prodding) we finally got a upgrade copy of CF 5 Server for windows, actually it might be a full copy come to think of it. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: We received our upgrade copy of CF 5 Server with no prodding on our side. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care le ss about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whate ver that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via w eb. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included t he server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is eas y with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limi ted in this manner. In my app I
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
I don't honestly know... the company that I work for has had a partnership for a very long time... longer than I've worked here. We don't run Linux machines, so to be honest it doesn't matter in our situation. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Should the partners have not also got a Linux version? When we first became a Partner we got all of the Allaire products for all of the different OS's. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: It was an upgrade for Windows. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Was it just for Windows or did you get the Linux version as well? We recieved an email saying they were bing chipped out, it was a general email to all partners. Months later, still no packages and after a cou ple of emails(prodding) we finally got a upgrade copy of CF 5 Server for windows, actually it might be a full copy come to think of it. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: We received our upgrade copy of CF 5 Server with no prodding on our side. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care le ss about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whate ver that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via w eb. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included t he server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
I'm not a partner, but I think I remember something about a Linux version of CF5 not being available when it was first shipped. The Linux version was released a short time later... Of course, I could be way off on this... trying to remember back 6 months is always a crap shoot for me. Shawn Grover -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:11 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... I don't honestly know... the company that I work for has had a partnership for a very long time... longer than I've worked here. We don't run Linux machines, so to be honest it doesn't matter in our situation. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 11:27 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Should the partners have not also got a Linux version? When we first became a Partner we got all of the Allaire products for all of the different OS's. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: It was an upgrade for Windows. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:36 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... Was it just for Windows or did you get the Linux version as well? We recieved an email saying they were bing chipped out, it was a general email to all partners. Months later, still no packages and after a cou ple of emails(prodding) we finally got a upgrade copy of CF 5 Server for windows, actually it might be a full copy come to think of it. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Thu, 20 Dec 2001, C. Hatton Humphrey wrote: We received our upgrade copy of CF 5 Server with no prodding on our side. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care le ss about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whate ver that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via w eb. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included t he server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily
Re: Allaire Partner upgrades...
yup...we got it too..no problem...but I would love to get Studio 5 ;-) Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: C. Hatton Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 8:03 AM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We received our upgrade copy of CF 5 Server with no prodding on our side. Hatton -Original Message- From: Aaron Rouse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 9:23 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing. We had to basically fight to get the Windows version of CF5 Server, did they even ship out other versions of CF5 to partners? Personally I think MM could care less about the Allaire Partners, honestly see no point in going to whatever that new program is called once our current one expires. Snipe - CF_BotMaster Network=EFNet Channel=ColdFusion On Tue, 18 Dec 2001, Cameron Childress wrote: I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included the server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
At 6:23 AM 12/20/1, Aaron Rouse wrote: At least you got a link, we have recieved nothing... Personally I think MM could care less about the Allaire Partners I'm sorry that something isn't smooth for you, and sorrier still that I don't know those details myself. But have you considered contacting the partner program directly? That'd be the fastest way to get set up like other folks, thanks. jd John Dowdell, Macromedia Tech Support, San Francisco CA US Search technotes: http://www.macromedia.com/support/search/ Offlist email risks capture by the spam filters. I may not see your email if it's not on the list. Private one-on-one email options are available via Priority Access: http://www.macromedia.com/support/ __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting to convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes. If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just a limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around this? RDBMS == SQL Server... jon __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included the server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting to convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes. If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just a limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around this? RDBMS == SQL Server... jon __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: Allaire Partner upgrades...
An excerpt from a recent e-mail from an MM person about the higher partner price for less software (i.e. no tools)... the price was raised for several reasons, if you would like to speak with someone about it directly, you may contact me, Robin Craig at 617 219 2179 Phone away folks..I haven't had the time yet Bryan Stevenson VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. p. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Allaire Alliance Partner www.allaire.com - Original Message - From: Cameron Childress [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included the server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO
Re: Allaire Partner upgrades...
So UD is considered an upgrade to CF Studio? hahahahahahaha I thought it was the other way around. --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting to convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes. If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just a limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around this? RDBMS == SQL Server... jon __ Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Well, I was told that Macromedia was going to honor Allaire partnerships through the end of the year's subscription, so whenever your current year subscription ends, you'd have to renew as a Macromedia partner, but until that year is up, all Allaire products that fell under the developmen`t program (Homesite, CF Server, Studio, JRun, etc) should be upgraded for you as part of agreement you made with Allaire. I'll try to dig up the e-mail stating this from Macromedia and forward it if you like. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:38 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... I received an email today stating that our subscriptions had shipped. Prior to that I got one with a download link and login to grab it via web. Dunno about Partners... Has MM confirmed that the tools are still part of the Partner program? I wouldn't be surprised if they only included the server side programs in the Partner programs now-a-days... MM is a little less generous than Allaire was... -Cameron Cameron Childress elliptIQ Inc. p.770.460.1035.232 f.770.460.0963 -- http://www.neighborware.com America's Leading Community Network Software -Original Message- From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:25 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting to convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes
RE: Allaire Partner upgrades...
Yeah no kidding, we hit the floor laughing -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 5:53 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Allaire Partner upgrades... So UD is considered an upgrade to CF Studio? hahahahahahaha I thought it was the other way around. --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Tangorre, Michael T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 4:25 PM Subject: RE: Allaire Partner upgrades... We called MM form school (Alfred University) and inquired about our upgrade to CF Studio 5, and they said its on its way.. Well, 1 month later we got a CD but it was ULTRADEV!! We are still trying to get studio 5, based on the agreement we have with MM, our subscription entitles us to studio 5, and we would like to see MM honor their agreements on this. -Original Message- From: Kevin Langevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Allaire Partner upgrades... ANybody know when Allaire Alliance Partners (before they expire) should be recieving the upgrade to CF Studio5 and Homesite 5? I had been told soon, but got no firm date a while back. Kevin Langevin Web Guy In Charge UsWebGuys 954-327-5780 -Original Message- From: BILLY CRAVENS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 2:43 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype It could be done with CFQuery, but it would require you to loop over your data and do an insert each time (thought this could be easily wrapped into a single CFQuery or a stored procedure). You can take advantage of Java's or ADO's capabilities now - simply put them in a bean, COM object, or CFX custom tag. Have you tried casting the column's datatype in your SQL? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:43 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a native array which is handled by the interpreter, in this case CF. It only converts to a VBScript array, if called by VBScript. ADO is theorhetically platform independant. Basically I am trying to do an array update with ADO. This is easy with ASP or WSH, but with cfquery, although nice easy, is extremely limited in this manner. In my app I have one page (it's a grid...) that literally might update hundreds of rows in a normalized table. I am hoping that in Neo, I will be able to build a component that takes advantage of java.sql's batch updates, but until then... jon - Original Message - From: BILLY CRAVENS [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: Re: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype GetRows() converts to a VBScript array; not a CF array. If you want to see the contents of the array, you'll need to write a wrapper object that makes the ADO calls and gets the results. Out of curiosity, why are you using ADO instead of CFQuery? --- Billy Cravens - Original Message - From: Jon Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 10:15 AM Subject: CFObject ADO the decimal datatype I am writing a script that uses ado to update a table, and in the process of debugging it I have run into a snag. My app doesn't need to get a recordset, but while I am writing this template it would be nice to be able to see the data I am working with. I have a decimal datatype field in my recordset with a scale of 2 (if that makes a difference...). When I use recordset.GetRows() to convert the ADO recordset into an array, it bombs out with the error Error attempting to convert between object and ColdFusion datatypes. If I remove the decimal column everything works fine. Is this just a limitation of CFObject, or is their another way around this? RDBMS == SQL Server... jon __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
