Re: CF MX

2002-04-17 Thread Dave Carabetta

If you're a part of the beta program, this question would probably be better
answered in the beta forums.

Just a thought.

Dave.


- Original Message -
From: "Neil H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 07:22 PM
Subject: CF MX


> Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow people to test
> pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for profit just
> for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or point me to an
> address to inquire?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Neil
>
> 
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Re: CF MX

2002-04-17 Thread Neil H.

Dave,
I can't seem to find them  Could you direct me to them...

Neil

- Original Message -
From: "Dave Carabetta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:52 PM
Subject: Re: CF MX


> If you're a part of the beta program, this question would probably be
better
> answered in the beta forums.
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Dave.
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Neil H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 07:22 PM
> Subject: CF MX
>
>
> > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow people to test
> > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for profit
just
> > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or point me to
an
> > address to inquire?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
> 
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Re: CF MX

2002-04-17 Thread Paul Giesenhagen

Neil,

You must be on the beta team to access the beta forums.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign
http://www.quilldesign.com
SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder



> Dave,
> I can't seem to find them  Could you direct me to them...
>
> Neil
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Dave Carabetta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:52 PM
> Subject: Re: CF MX
>
>
> > If you're a part of the beta program, this question would probably be
> better
> > answered in the beta forums.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > Dave.
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Neil H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 07:22 PM
> > Subject: CF MX
> >
> >
> > > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow people to
test
> > > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for profit
> just
> > > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or point me to
> an
> > > address to inquire?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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Re: CF MX

2002-04-17 Thread Neil H.

Yes I am part of the beta program however me emails do not reference the
forums.. NM I think I figured it out.

Neil

- Original Message -
From: "Paul Giesenhagen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: CF MX


> Neil,
>
> You must be on the beta team to access the beta forums.
>
> Paul Giesenhagen
> QuillDesign
> http://www.quilldesign.com
> SiteDirector v2.0 - Commerce Builder
>
>
>
> > Dave,
> > I can't seem to find them  Could you direct me to them...
> >
> > Neil
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Dave Carabetta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:52 PM
> > Subject: Re: CF MX
> >
> >
> > > If you're a part of the beta program, this question would probably be
> > better
> > > answered in the beta forums.
> > >
> > > Just a thought.
> > >
> > > Dave.
> > >
> > >
> > > - Original Message -
> > > From: "Neil H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 07:22 PM
> > > Subject: CF MX
> > >
> > >
> > > > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow people to
> test
> > > > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for profit
> > just
> > > > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or point me
to
> > an
> > > > address to inquire?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Neil
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread Neil Clark - =TMM=

Hi Neil,

I would stave off setting a box up for other people to test, unless they
are also on the Beta and are covered by NDA.  AFAIK, the NDA covers you
and is not scalable to testers.

Also, placing Neo Beta on a 'live' server for testing is a big no no and
would not go down well with the MACR Legal Dept well not unless you
wanted a cease and desist letter :-)

My adive to you, remove any and all external installs/testers and you
will be OK... this is a crucial time for MM (and indeed any software
company in a beta cycle) and jeopardising a cycle can be a disater.

Thanks

Neil 
Team Macromedia Spectra
http://www.macromedia.com/go/team


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RE: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread Raymond Camden

Without a doubt, this is a no-no.

===
Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Yahoo IM : morpheus

"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda 

> -Original Message-
> From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:22 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF MX
> 
> 
> Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow 
> people to test
> pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for 
> profit just
> for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or 
> point me to an
> address to inquire?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Neil
> 
> 
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RE: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread Jeffry Houser

  At the risk of sounding like a Devil's advocate.
  If you do this, how would anyone know?
  Set up a box with software X, and ask people to browse it to test it for 
you...
  How are those people ( or anyone else ) going to know if the software 
being run is ColdFusion 4, 4.5, MX, or some other technology altogether?  ( 
Well, if it were some other technology the extension might give it away, 
but.. )

At 08:20 AM 4/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Without a doubt, this is a no-no.
>
>===
>Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia
>
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Yahoo IM : morpheus
>
>"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:22 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF MX
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow
> > people to test
> > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for
> > profit just
> > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or
> > point me to an
> > address to inquire?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
>
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RE: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

by dumping the server variables - that's how.

-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 7:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF MX


  At the risk of sounding like a Devil's advocate.
  If you do this, how would anyone know?
  Set up a box with software X, and ask people to browse it to test it for
you...
  How are those people ( or anyone else ) going to know if the software
being run is ColdFusion 4, 4.5, MX, or some other technology altogether?  (
Well, if it were some other technology the extension might give it away,
but.. )

At 08:20 AM 4/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Without a doubt, this is a no-no.
>
>===
>Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia
>
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Yahoo IM : morpheus
>
>"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:22 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF MX
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow
> > people to test
> > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for
> > profit just
> > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or
> > point me to an
> > address to inquire?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
>

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Re: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread Stephen Moretti

Jeff,

It doesn't matter if no one knows.  Its a breach of the NDA/Licence.

If you get caught you'll get your wrist slapped.  If you don't cease and
desist you'll get a get a good legal kicking  Why risk getting caught,
getting a slapping and losing any goodwill that being a beta tester has
built up between you and MM?

Schrodinger's Cat

- Original Message -
From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: CF MX


>   At the risk of sounding like a Devil's advocate.
>   If you do this, how would anyone know?
>   Set up a box with software X, and ask people to browse it to test it for
> you...
>   How are those people ( or anyone else ) going to know if the software
> being run is ColdFusion 4, 4.5, MX, or some other technology altogether?
(
> Well, if it were some other technology the extension might give it away,
> but.. )
>
> At 08:20 AM 4/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >Without a doubt, this is a no-no.
> >
> >===
> >Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia
> >
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Yahoo IM : morpheus
> >
> >"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:22 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: CF MX
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow
> > > people to test
> > > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for
> > > profit just
> > > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or
> > > point me to an
> > > address to inquire?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> >
> 
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RE: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread Kevin Schmidt

Being a beta tester myself, I consider it a privilege.  I am going to do
what MM asks, and what I agreed to do when I signed up.  Getting to play
with Betas and influencing changes to the final product is fun.  I want
to continue doing this as well, so if you ask me, I would say don't do
it.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Moretti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX

Jeff,

It doesn't matter if no one knows.  Its a breach of the NDA/Licence.

If you get caught you'll get your wrist slapped.  If you don't cease and
desist you'll get a get a good legal kicking  Why risk getting
caught,
getting a slapping and losing any goodwill that being a beta tester has
built up between you and MM?

Schrodinger's Cat

- Original Message -
From: "Jeffry Houser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 1:55 PM
Subject: RE: CF MX


>   At the risk of sounding like a Devil's advocate.
>   If you do this, how would anyone know?
>   Set up a box with software X, and ask people to browse it to test it
for
> you...
>   How are those people ( or anyone else ) going to know if the
software
> being run is ColdFusion 4, 4.5, MX, or some other technology
altogether?
(
> Well, if it were some other technology the extension might give it
away,
> but.. )
>
> At 08:20 AM 4/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >Without a doubt, this is a no-no.
> >
>
>===
> >Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia
> >
> >Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Yahoo IM : morpheus
> >
> >"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:22 PM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: CF MX
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow
> > > people to test
> > > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for
> > > profit just
> > > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or
> > > point me to an
> > > address to inquire?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Neil
> > >
> > >
> >
> 

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RE: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread cameronc

I think the question isn't whether or not you would get caught, but whether or not you 
have the integrity to abide by the NDA.  There's also nothing stopping you from 
burning copies and selling them on eBay or from publishing a beta to a warez group or 
file sharing network.  If someone doesn't plan on abiding by the agreement, they 
shouldn't make it.

For the record Jeff, I am in no way calling your integrity into question with this 
message.  :)

Just my 2 cents.

-Cameron



-Original Message-
From: Jeffry Houser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, April 18, 2002 8:55 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF MX


  At the risk of sounding like a Devil's advocate.
  If you do this, how would anyone know?
  Set up a box with software X, and ask people to browse it to test it for 
you...
  How are those people ( or anyone else ) going to know if the software 
being run is ColdFusion 4, 4.5, MX, or some other technology altogether?  ( 
Well, if it were some other technology the extension might give it away, 
but.. )

At 08:20 AM 4/18/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Without a doubt, this is a no-no.
>
>===
>Raymond Camden, Principal Spectra Compliance Engineer for Macromedia
>
>Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Yahoo IM : morpheus
>
>"My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is." - Yoda
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Neil H. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 7:22 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF MX
> >
> >
> > Anyone know if I could setup a test box for Neo and allow
> > people to test
> > pages on it?  I know the NDA is pretty thick but it isn't for
> > profit just
> > for testing.  Maybe a MM employee could shed some light or
> > point me to an
> > address to inquire?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Neil
> >
> >
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RE: CF MX

2002-04-18 Thread Dave Carabetta

>   At the risk of sounding like a Devil's advocate.
>   If you do this, how would anyone know?
>   Set up a box with software X, and ask people to browse it to test it for
>you...
>   How are those people ( or anyone else ) going to know if the software
>being run is ColdFusion 4, 4.5, MX, or some other technology altogether?  (
>Well, if it were some other technology the extension might give it away,
>but.. )
>

At last check www.yourserver.com/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm is still the 
generic way to get to the CF Admin, and most people don't change that. So 
just pull up that page on a site and the version number is right in your 
face.

Although I will say this -- if you read section 1.2 of the NDA, it actually 
discusses what Neil's asking. It actually looks as though there's a bit of 
leeway. I'd read that and then explicitly send an e-mail to a Macromedia 
Beta program employee and clarify what it means. Their e-mails are all over 
the Beta forums.

Regards,
Dave.


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RE: CF MX

2002-04-29 Thread Matt Liotta

That information is NDA at this point.

-Matt

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF MX
> 
> Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to
> upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the
> performance stats compared to older versions any ideas?
> 
> 
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> Ediets.com
> Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> 954.360.9022 X159
> 
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RE: CF MX

2002-04-29 Thread BillyC

How so?  Anyone can download MX and run their own benchmarks.

---
Billy Cravens

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF MX

That information is NDA at this point.

-Matt

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF MX
> 
> Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to
> upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the
> performance stats compared to older versions any ideas?
> 
> 
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> Ediets.com
> Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> 954.360.9022 X159
> 

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RE: CF MX

2002-04-29 Thread Mike Chambers

the current build is not completly optimized for performance yet, so i
would wait until the final version before doing any  serious performance
testing.

mike chambers

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF MX
> 
> 
> Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to 
> get them to upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find 
> a page that shows the performance stats compared to older 
> versions any ideas?
> 
> 

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RE: CF MX

2002-04-29 Thread BillyC

Jump over to the Neo forums on the beta site - Libby English of
Macromedia : "You can now discuss all aspects of the new CF release..."

---
Billy Cravens
 

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF MX

That information is NDA at this point.

-Matt

> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF MX
> 
> Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to
> upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the
> performance stats compared to older versions any ideas?
> 
> 
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> Ediets.com
> Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> 954.360.9022 X159
> 

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RE: CF MX

2002-04-29 Thread Matt Liotta

It is a preview release that is not feature complete or performance
tuned. Any benchmark based on a preview release would be silly at best.

-Matt

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF MX
> 
> How so?  Anyone can download MX and run their own benchmarks.
> 
> ---
> Billy Cravens
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF MX
> 
> That information is NDA at this point.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF MX
> >
> > Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them
to
> > upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows
the
> > performance stats compared to older versions any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Senior Database Developer
> > Ediets.com
> > Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> > 954.360.9022 X159
> >
> 
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Re: CF MX

2002-04-29 Thread Bryan Stevenson

it's not done yet, so I'd think performance testing at this stage would be irrelevant

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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM
Subject: CF MX


> Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them to upgrade from 
>CF 4 (ugh) to
cF MX. i need to find a page that shows the performance stats compared to older 
versions any ideas?
>
>
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> Ediets.com
> Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> 954.360.9022 X159
> 
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RE: CF MX

2002-04-29 Thread BillyC

Yeah, but not covered by NDA ;)

---
Billy Cravens

-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF MX

It is a preview release that is not feature complete or performance
tuned. Any benchmark based on a preview release would be silly at best.

-Matt

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:43 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF MX
> 
> How so?  Anyone can download MX and run their own benchmarks.
> 
> ---
> Billy Cravens
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 9:39 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF MX
> 
> That information is NDA at this point.
> 
> -Matt
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 7:28 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: CF MX
> >
> > Now that i'm at a new job i need tow ork my bosses over to get them
to
> > upgrade from CF 4 (ugh) to cF MX. i need to find a page that shows
the
> > performance stats compared to older versions any ideas?
> >
> >
> > Bill Wheatley
> > Senior Database Developer
> > Ediets.com
> > Macromedia Certified Coldfusion Developer
> > 954.360.9022 X159
> >
> 
> 

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Re: CF MX Mail

2003-02-10 Thread Howie Hamlin
You might want to look at iMS-SE.  iMS-SE is a high-performance mail sending engine 
for ColdFusion that has several
advanced features and does not require the use of an external email server.

Regards,

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Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: CF MX Mail


> I need to build an app that will use CF to send about 250 e-mail
> messages every other day. The messages will be all text, no attachments.
>
> Does CFMX perform better than CF5 in regards to CFMAIL? Or is it just
> about the same.
>
> If it does not perform well can someone suggest a third party package I
> can use to do the e-mail function.
>
> thanks.
>
> 
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RE: CF MX Mail

2003-02-10 Thread Peter.Tilbrook
I noticed fusion mail doesn't work under MX. Comes up with a error under the
install folder:

Variable DOMAINSFOLDER is undefined.  
  
The error occurred in
C:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\fusionmail\install\msaccess\index.cfm: line 47
 
45 :   ENTRY="TemplateDirectory" TYPE="string" Variable="DomainsFolder">
46 : Enter the Destination Folder of your server templates:(NOTE: This folder must already exist on your
server)
47 :  Copy server templates
48 : 
49 : 

 

-Original Message-
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 11:36 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX Mail


You might want to look at iMS-SE.  iMS-SE is a high-performance mail sending
engine for ColdFusion that has several
advanced features and does not require the use of an external email server.

Regards,

--
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On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com  - 631-737-4668 x101
inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server
>>> Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition:
http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm

- Original Message -
From: "gfxlabs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:22 PM
Subject: CF MX Mail


> I need to build an app that will use CF to send about 250 e-mail
> messages every other day. The messages will be all text, no attachments.
>
> Does CFMX perform better than CF5 in regards to CFMAIL? Or is it just
> about the same.
>
> If it does not perform well can someone suggest a third party package I
> can use to do the e-mail function.
>
> thanks.
>
> 

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Re: CF MX Mail

2003-02-10 Thread Howie Hamlin
The FusionMail installer relies on CFREGISTRY - do you have that disabled?

Regards,

Howie

- Original Message - 
From: <"Tilbrook>; >
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 9:11 PM
Subject: RE: CF MX Mail


> I noticed fusion mail doesn't work under MX. Comes up with a error under the
> install folder:
> 
> Variable DOMAINSFOLDER is undefined.  
>   
> The error occurred in
> C:\CFusionMX\wwwroot\fusionmail\install\msaccess\index.cfm: line 47
>  
> 45 :   ENTRY="TemplateDirectory" TYPE="string" Variable="DomainsFolder">
> 46 : Enter the Destination Folder of your server templates: COLOR="29415a">(NOTE: This folder must already exist on your
> server)
> 47 :  value="#DomainsFolder#"> type="checkbox" checked="checked"> Copy server templates
> 48 : 
> 49 : 
> 
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, 11 February 2003 11:36 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF MX Mail
> 
> 
> You might want to look at iMS-SE.  iMS-SE is a high-performance mail sending
> engine for ColdFusion that has several
> advanced features and does not require the use of an external email server.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> --
> Howie Hamlin - inFusion Project Manager
> On-Line Data Solutions, Inc. - www.CoolFusion.com  - 631-737-4668 x101
> inFusion Mail Server (iMS) - The Award-winning, Intelligent Mail Server
> >>> Find out how iMS Stacks up to the competition:
> http://www.coolfusion.com/imssecomparison.cfm
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "gfxlabs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 7:22 PM
> Subject: CF MX Mail
> 
> 
> > I need to build an app that will use CF to send about 250 e-mail
> > messages every other day. The messages will be all text, no attachments.
> >
> > Does CFMX perform better than CF5 in regards to CFMAIL? Or is it just
> > about the same.
> >
> > If it does not perform well can someone suggest a third party package I
> > can use to do the e-mail function.
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > 
> 
> 
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RE: cf mx install

2002-12-18 Thread Tony Weeg
you can leave them on just fine, you must
only make sure to shut down the cf application
service.

tony

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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cf mx install


Should you shut down the ms-sql and/or iis services during a cfmx
install?  Or is it better to leave them on so cf can find them during
install?
 
t/
Matt



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RE: cf mx install

2002-12-18 Thread Matthew P. Smith
I did an add/remove programs on cfmx after shutting down the three mx
services.  Clean boot and then install.

Thanks for the help,
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf mx install

you can leave them on just fine, you must
only make sure to shut down the cf application
service.

tony

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cf mx install


Should you shut down the ms-sql and/or iis services during a cfmx
install?  Or is it better to leave them on so cf can find them during
install?
 
t/
Matt




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RE: cf mx install

2002-12-18 Thread Tony Weeg
very good.

later. tw

-Original Message-
From: Matthew P. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf mx install


I did an add/remove programs on cfmx after shutting down the three mx
services.  Clean boot and then install.

Thanks for the help,
Matt

-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 9:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: cf mx install

you can leave them on just fine, you must
only make sure to shut down the cf application
service.

tony

-Original Message-
From: Matthew P. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 10:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cf mx install


Should you shut down the ms-sql and/or iis services during a cfmx
install?  Or is it better to leave them on so cf can find them during
install?
 
t/
Matt





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Re: CF MX cfobject

2003-01-08 Thread John Paul Ashenfelter
David,

One big question -- CFMX or CF5 (or 4.5)?

CFMX uses the jIntegra Java-COM bridge which is doesn't like poorly written
COM objects (objects that work just fine in ASP). And it doesn't like some
perfectly fine COM objects :) Tough job running COM under Java.

If you're using ColdFusion 5, one question is do you have a multi-processor
server? I've had a devil of a time with some COM objects under ColdFusion
(and ASP for that matter) when moving from single to dual/quad processor
machines. Something about threading and the threading model chosen for the
COM object. Been a long time since I did COM so I'll leave the details for
someone else.

When I've had similar COM problems before, I've gone as far as getting debug
builds from the vendor -- usually we're talking source code change. But then
again, maybe it just needs regsrv32 and a reboot :)

I'd try it on another server/machine before I wasted a lot of time with
anything else.

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "David D Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:10 PM
Subject: CF MX cfobject


> I am having trouble getting this object to work via cold fusion.  Works
> fine in asp.
>
> In ASP file
> 'Create ID3Edit object & set reg-code to "READONLY"
> Set objID3 = server.CreateObject("ID3Edit.ID3Tag")
>
>
> In cold fusion mx file
>
> 
>
> I get:
>
> An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.
> The cause of this exception was that: AutomationException: 0x800401f7 -
> Some error in application program.
>
> The error occurred in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Default\test.cfm: line 34
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> 
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RE: CF MX cfobject

2003-01-08 Thread David D Brown
Thanks, I am running CF MX.

So I guess, either I go back to CF 5.0 or I start using asp for this
project.  

Someone else on the list has suggested using a cfc they are working
with.  I will try that.

David


-Original Message-
From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX cfobject

David,

One big question -- CFMX or CF5 (or 4.5)?

CFMX uses the jIntegra Java-COM bridge which is doesn't like poorly
written
COM objects (objects that work just fine in ASP). And it doesn't like
some
perfectly fine COM objects :) Tough job running COM under Java.

If you're using ColdFusion 5, one question is do you have a
multi-processor
server? I've had a devil of a time with some COM objects under
ColdFusion
(and ASP for that matter) when moving from single to dual/quad processor
machines. Something about threading and the threading model chosen for
the
COM object. Been a long time since I did COM so I'll leave the details
for
someone else.

When I've had similar COM problems before, I've gone as far as getting
debug
builds from the vendor -- usually we're talking source code change. But
then
again, maybe it just needs regsrv32 and a reboot :)

I'd try it on another server/machine before I wasted a lot of time with
anything else.

Regards,

John Paul Ashenfelter
CTO/Transitionpoint
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: "David D Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:10 PM
Subject: CF MX cfobject


> I am having trouble getting this object to work via cold fusion.
Works
> fine in asp.
>
> In ASP file
> 'Create ID3Edit object & set reg-code to "READONLY"
> Set objID3 = server.CreateObject("ID3Edit.ID3Tag")
>
>
> In cold fusion mx file
>
> 
>
> I get:
>
> An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.
> The cause of this exception was that: AutomationException: 0x800401f7
-
> Some error in application program.
>
> The error occurred in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Default\test.cfm: line 34
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> 

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Re: CF MX cfobject

2003-01-08 Thread Kwang Suh
You could use the Java Native Interface and create some wrapper classes that
you could instantiate in CFMX.
- Original Message -
From: "David D Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:50 PM
Subject: RE: CF MX cfobject


> Thanks, I am running CF MX.
>
> So I guess, either I go back to CF 5.0 or I start using asp for this
> project.
>
> Someone else on the list has suggested using a cfc they are working
> with.  I will try that.
>
> David
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Paul Ashenfelter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 11:16 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF MX cfobject
>
> David,
>
> One big question -- CFMX or CF5 (or 4.5)?
>
> CFMX uses the jIntegra Java-COM bridge which is doesn't like poorly
> written
> COM objects (objects that work just fine in ASP). And it doesn't like
> some
> perfectly fine COM objects :) Tough job running COM under Java.
>
> If you're using ColdFusion 5, one question is do you have a
> multi-processor
> server? I've had a devil of a time with some COM objects under
> ColdFusion
> (and ASP for that matter) when moving from single to dual/quad processor
> machines. Something about threading and the threading model chosen for
> the
> COM object. Been a long time since I did COM so I'll leave the details
> for
> someone else.
>
> When I've had similar COM problems before, I've gone as far as getting
> debug
> builds from the vendor -- usually we're talking source code change. But
> then
> again, maybe it just needs regsrv32 and a reboot :)
>
> I'd try it on another server/machine before I wasted a lot of time with
> anything else.
>
> Regards,
>
> John Paul Ashenfelter
> CTO/Transitionpoint
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> - Original Message -
> From: "David D Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:10 PM
> Subject: CF MX cfobject
>
>
> > I am having trouble getting this object to work via cold fusion.
> Works
> > fine in asp.
> >
> > In ASP file
> > 'Create ID3Edit object & set reg-code to "READONLY"
> > Set objID3 = server.CreateObject("ID3Edit.ID3Tag")
> >
> >
> > In cold fusion mx file
> >
> >  action="CREATE">
> >
> > I get:
> >
> > An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.
> > The cause of this exception was that: AutomationException: 0x800401f7
> -
> > Some error in application program.
> >
> > The error occurred in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Default\test.cfm: line 34
> >
> >
> > Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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Re: CF MX cfobject

2003-01-09 Thread Samuel R. Neff
What does the COM object due?  Perhaps there is a Java alternative that 
would work much better in CFMX.

Make sure you've installed UR2.

At 06:10 PM 1/8/2003, you wrote:
>I am having trouble getting this object to work via cold fusion.  Works
>fine in asp.
>
>In ASP file
>'Create ID3Edit object & set reg-code to "READONLY"
>Set objID3 = server.CreateObject("ID3Edit.ID3Tag")
>
>
>In cold fusion mx file
>
>
>
>I get:
>
>An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.
>The cause of this exception was that: AutomationException: 0x800401f7 -
>Some error in application program.
>
>The error occurred in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Default\test.cfm: line 34
>
>
>Any suggestions?

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RE: CF MX cfobject

2003-01-09 Thread Adrocknaphobia Jones
David,

I had the same problems when I upgraded to MX. I was using CFXid3 or
something like that, and it was using a COM object. The object for one
reason or the other wouldn't always load, and when it did, it wasn't
reliable. Sometimes locking up my treads.

So I moved everything over to a java class, and have had a lot of
success. I'll send you the CFC this weekend, I need to strip it down and
take out all of my internal stuff, like updating my database, and
loading directories. (specific to my application)

Adam Wayne Lehman
Web Systems Developer
Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health
Distance Education Division


-Original Message-
From: David D Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:10 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX cfobject

I am having trouble getting this object to work via cold fusion.  Works
fine in asp.

In ASP file
'Create ID3Edit object & set reg-code to "READONLY"
Set objID3 = server.CreateObject("ID3Edit.ID3Tag")


In cold fusion mx file



I get:

An exception occurred when instantiating a Com object.  
The cause of this exception was that: AutomationException: 0x800401f7 -
Some error in application program.  
  
The error occurred in D:\Inetpub\wwwroot\Default\test.cfm: line 34


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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Dave Watts

> Is anyone aware of any issues with running CFMX Server 
> on a box that already has BEA WebLogic server. The servers 
> will not be interacting with each other, rather just 
> coexisting on the same machine. Any issues with the CF
> install? Any input would be greatly appreciated.

You shouldn't have any problems, except for the possibility that you can't
configure an individual virtual web server or virtual directory to service
both simultaneously. For example, if you're using Apache as the front-end
for WebLogic, you might have one virtual web server (using the VirtualHost
directive) for WebLogic, and another for CF MX.

You might want to take a look at CF MX for WebLogic, when it comes out; it's
a JSP killer in my opinion.

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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Matt Liotta

> You might want to take a look at CF MX for WebLogic, when it comes
out;
> it's
> a JSP killer in my opinion.
> 
I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced. It certainly isn't
a downloadable option for those of us participating in the CFMX J2EE
beta program.

-Matt

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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Pete Freitag

>I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.

It's going to come out later this year.

"Optimized versions of ColdFusion MX for Macromedia JRun, IBM WebSphere
Application Server, and Sun ONE Application Server are expected to ship in
the third calendar quarter of 2002. ColdFusion MX for BEA WebLogic Server is
expected to ship later this year."
from
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2002/coldfusion_mx_announce.ht
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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Craig Thomas

>>I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.

Will be end of summer - September, I think.

-Craig

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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Matt Liotta

In other words, Macromedia still hasn't worked out a deal with Bea and
thus hasn't announced the product. There is a difference between
expecting a product and announcing one.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Pete Freitag [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 8:51 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic
> 
> >I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.
> 
> It's going to come out later this year.
> 
> "Optimized versions of ColdFusion MX for Macromedia JRun, IBM
WebSphere
> Application Server, and Sun ONE Application Server are expected to
ship in
> the third calendar quarter of 2002. ColdFusion MX for BEA WebLogic
Server
> is
> expected to ship later this year."
> from
>
http://www.macromedia.com/macromedia/proom/pr/2002/coldfusion_mx_announc
e.
> ht
> ml
> 
> _
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> CTO, CFDEV.COM
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> 
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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Matt Liotta

That's speculation, not an announcement.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:00 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic
> 
> >>I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.
> 
> Will be end of summer - September, I think.
> 
> -Craig
> 
> 
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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Dave Watts

> I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced. It 
> certainly isn't a downloadable option for those of us 
> participating in the CFMX J2EE beta program.

No, from what I've heard it'll be released in the "second round", so to
speak. Of course, it may never come out at all, for all I know; I was simply
stating my expectations. I expect it to come out sometime, thus my
recommendation to look at it "when it comes out".

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Re: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Jon Hall

Macromedia has stuck BEA Weblogic on every single MX press
release with an expected ship date of "later this year".

I do hope they aren't speculating about their own products.

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Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 12:01:23 PM, you wrote:
ML> That's speculation, not an announcement.

ML> Matt Liotta
ML> President & CEO
ML> Montara Software, Inc.
ML> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
ML> V: 415-577-8070
ML> F: 415-341-8906
ML> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

>> -Original Message-
>> From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:00 AM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic
>> 
>> >>I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.
>> 
>> Will be end of summer - September, I think.
>> 
>> -Craig

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RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Matt Liotta

Companies do it all the time. Again, that is the difference between an
expectation and an announcement. Macromedia expects to ship CFMX for
WebLogic in a certain time frame, but there is no hard/guaranteed date.
When there is, Macromedia will announce the product.

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> -Original Message-
> From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:32 AM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF MX & WebLogic
> 
> Macromedia has stuck BEA Weblogic on every single MX press
> release with an expected ship date of "later this year".
> 
> I do hope they aren't speculating about their own products.
> 
> --
>  jon
>  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 12:01:23 PM, you wrote:
> ML> That's speculation, not an announcement.
> 
> ML> Matt Liotta
> ML> President & CEO
> ML> Montara Software, Inc.
> ML> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> ML> V: 415-577-8070
> ML> F: 415-341-8906
> ML> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:00 AM
> >> To: CF-Talk
> >> Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic
> >>
> >> >>I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.
> >>
> >> Will be end of summer - September, I think.
> >>
> >> -Craig
> 
> 
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Re: CF MX Debugging

2002-07-29 Thread todd

Yeah, switch it to 'classic' debugging.. and apply a patch that Sean 
Corfield suggested in order to make sure that all the variables are on 
it's own line:

I have a .zip file of it on my server:
http://blog.web-rat.com/archives/15.html

~Todd

On Mon, 29 Jul 2002, chris.alvarado wrote:

> This is my one and only gripe thus far with CF MX, and maybe someone
> knows a way to fix it.
> 
> I am not liking the floating debugging window, nor do I like it docked
> to the left of the page.
> 
> Is there a way to get debugging info to show up at the bottom of the
> page like it used to with CF 5 and down?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -chris.alvarado
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RE: CF MX Debugging

2002-07-29 Thread Ben Forta

Sure, it's a setting in CF Admin in the Debug screen, set it to
"classic" instead of "dockable".

--- Ben


-Original Message-
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Subject: CF MX Debugging


This is my one and only gripe thus far with CF MX, and maybe someone
knows a way to fix it.

I am not liking the floating debugging window, nor do I like it docked
to the left of the page.

Is there a way to get debugging info to show up at the bottom of the
page like it used to with CF 5 and down?

Thanks,

-chris.alvarado
[ application developer ]
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Re: CF MX Debugging

2002-07-29 Thread Jeffry Houser

  You need to get into the Administrator and change the debugging setting 
to "classic" instead of "Dockable".



At 08:20 AM 7/29/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>This is my one and only gripe thus far with CF MX, and maybe someone
>knows a way to fix it.
>
>I am not liking the floating debugging window, nor do I like it docked
>to the left of the page.
>
>Is there a way to get debugging info to show up at the bottom of the
>page like it used to with CF 5 and down?
>
>Thanks,
>
>-chris.alvarado
>[ application developer ]
>4 Guys Interactive, Inc.
>http://www.4guys.com
>
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>And I can picture us attacking that world, because they'd never expect
>it. -- Jack Handy
>
>
>
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RE: CF MX Books

2002-04-29 Thread Ben Forta

We're all working on them frantically.

Mine will start rolling out in June.



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Since Ben and Ray are here today, when can we expect the books?

jon


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RE: CF MX Books

2002-04-29 Thread Raymond Camden

Soon. :>

===
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> -Original Message-
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> 
> Since Ben and Ray are here today, when can we expect the books?
> 

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RE: CF MX Books

2002-04-29 Thread Jeffry Houser

  At the risk of blatant self-promotion..
  My new book will be out sometime in June also (ColdFusion MX: The 
Complete Reference).

  Unlike many of the other books, which are just being updated, this one 
was written from scratch with CFMX in mind.  I have a few contributors on 
various topics including Simon Horwith, Chris Cortes, and Chris 
Graves.  Michael Dinowitz is doing the tech editing.

  Keep watch on this forum during the next few months when I will start 
begging people to buy it so I can pay my mortgage.  (Kidding, honest).


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RE: CF MX Books

2002-04-29 Thread Michael Dinowitz

I wasn't sure if I could comment on that. Thanks Jeff.

At 03:27 PM 4/29/02, you wrote:
>  At the risk of blatant self-promotion..
>  My new book will be out sometime in June also (ColdFusion MX: The 
>Complete Reference).
>
>  Unlike many of the other books, which are just being updated, this one 
>was written from scratch with CFMX in mind.  I have a few contributors on 
>various topics including Simon Horwith, Chris Cortes, and Chris 
>Graves.  Michael Dinowitz is doing the tech editing.
>
>  Keep watch on this forum during the next few months when I will start 
>begging people to buy it so I can pay my mortgage.  (Kidding, honest).
>
>
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RE: CF MX Books

2002-04-29 Thread Rick Walters

Bold post, Jeff.  

Good Fortune,
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>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/29/02 03:27PM >>>
  At the risk of blatant self-promotion..
  My new book will be out sometime in June also (ColdFusion MX: The 
Complete Reference).

  Unlike many of the other books, which are just being updated, this
one 
was written from scratch with CFMX in mind.  I have a few contributors
on 
various topics including Simon Horwith, Chris Cortes, and Chris 
Graves.  Michael Dinowitz is doing the tech editing.

  Keep watch on this forum during the next few months when I will start

begging people to buy it so I can pay my mortgage.  (Kidding, honest).


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RE: CF MX CFGRAPH

2004-02-03 Thread Sandy Clark
Cfgraph was deprecated in favor of cfchart in MX

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From: Nick Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX CFGRAPH

Developed some graphing (Line graphs) on CF 5.0 and it worked.  When I 
uploaded to a ColdFusion MX server, at Intermedia.net, things changed quite 
a lot. Graph is all over the place and the title doesn't show. My guess is 
that the CFGRAPH tag is different for MX.

Can anyone explain the differences or where I can find info online for the 
MX CFGRAPH tag.

Thanks,

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RE: CF MX Connector

2004-08-23 Thread Steven Erat
You have to recompile the connector to eliminate that error.  The connector
source is included in the ColdFusion installation.

 
>From a (slightly old) CFMX Connector FAQ: 
Where is the Apache connector source located and how can I compile my own
Apache EAPI connector?
For ColdFusion MX, the code and compile instructions are included in
cf_root/runtime/lib/wsconfig.jar in the /connectors/src/ApacheModule.zip
file. See ApacheBuildInstructions.txt in the ApacheModule.zip.

 
See also:
http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?data="">
6B7406437B04BBF

76B7406437B04BBF> 
http://www.cfdev.com/apache/apache2cfmx.cfm
 

 
-Steve


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Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:39 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX Connector

I am running CF MX 6.1 on a RedHat AS2.1 server and Apache 1.3.27. When
ColdFusion starts, the following warning message appears:
[warn] Loaded DSO /opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/lib/wsconfig/l/mod_jrun.so uses
plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile
it with -DEAPI)
Can anyone tell me how to fix this, and where I can find the fix?
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Re: CF MX Connector

2004-08-23 Thread Richard Wigfall
Hello Steve,
Thank you for your help, however, I received a syntax error in the httpd.conf file when restarting Apache with the recompiled connector: (Cannot load ...mod_jrun.so into server... Undefined symbol: removePathParms)

Any ideas where I went wrong, the new recompiled mod_jrun.so was about 20kb smaller than the original file.

Thank you for your time.

Richard

>You have to recompile the connector to eliminate that error.  The connector
>source is included in the ColdFusion installation.
> 
>From a (slightly old) CFMX Connector FAQ: 
>Where is the Apache connector source located and how can I compile my own
>Apache EAPI connector?
>For ColdFusion MX, the code and compile instructions are included in
>cf_root/runtime/lib/wsconfig.jar in the /connectors/src/ApacheModule.zip
>file. See ApacheBuildInstructions.txt in the ApacheModule.zip.
> 
>See also:
>http://www.talkingtree.com/blog/index.cfm?data="">
>6B7406437B04BBF
>
>76B7406437B04BBF> 
>http://www.cfdev.com/apache/apache2cfmx.cfm
> 
> 
>-Steve
> 
> 
>
>
>  _  
>
>From: Richard Wigfall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 8:39 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: CF MX Connector
>
>
>I am running CF MX 6.1 on a RedHat AS2.1 server and Apache 1.3.27. When
>ColdFusion starts, the following warning message appears:
>[warn] Loaded DSO /opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/lib/wsconfig/l/mod_jrun.so uses
>plain Apache 1.3 API, this module might crash under EAPI! (please recompile
>it with -DEAPI)
>Can anyone tell me how to fix this, and where I can find the fix?
>Thank you for your time. 
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RE: CF MX Problem

2004-09-09 Thread Dave Watts
> I am wondering if there could be some difference between the 
> way CF MX and CF MX 6.1 function that could be preventing the 
> creating of PDF documents? It will take some doing to get the 
> actual CF server install disk (which appears to be my only 
> way to upgrade to CF MX 6.1) and I would rather avoid the 
> hassle if I do not have to go through it.

Yes, I believe that CFMX 6.1 comes with a newer version of JIntegra, which
is the COM library used by CFMX. I wouldn't be surprised if some things no
longer work correctly, although I don't know about ActivePDF specifically.

In addition, there may conceivably be some permissions issues, although I
suspect this isn't your problem. Perhaps, though, the previous install of
CFMX 6.0 ran as a user with rights to those COM objects, and CFMX 6.1 is
running as a different user.

It would probably also be useful to find exactly where the error occurs.

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Re: CF MX Problem

2004-09-09 Thread Greg Luce
It would simplify troubleshooting if you run the 6.1 updater. It's
free right? Then you could compare the 2 instances of CF a little
better.

Greg
- Original Message -
From: Dave Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thu, 9 Sep 2004 16:41:09 -0400
Subject: RE: CF MX Problem
To: CF-Talk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I am wondering if there could be some difference between the 
> way CF MX and CF MX 6.1 function that could be preventing the 
> creating of PDF documents? It will take some doing to get the 
> actual CF server install disk (which appears to be my only 
> way to upgrade to CF MX 6.1) and I would rather avoid the 
> hassle if I do not have to go through it.

Yes, I believe that CFMX 6.1 comes with a newer version of JIntegra, which
is the COM library used by CFMX. I wouldn't be surprised if some things no
longer work correctly, although I don't know about ActivePDF specifically.

In addition, there may conceivably be some permissions issues, although I
suspect this isn't your problem. Perhaps, though, the previous install of
CFMX 6.0 ran as a user with rights to those COM objects, and CFMX 6.1 is
running as a different user.

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Re: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-11 Thread David Brown
Could someone tell me how to limit what drives and folders in DW MX or Home
Site connecting to a CF MX Enterprise server.  I have enabled sandbox
security, but it does not seem to limit what drives a user see when login in
via RDS.   I don't see a way to assign security based on username.

David
- Original Message -
From: "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: CF MX Enterprise Security


> I have two different passwords for cfadmin pages and RDS.  But I would
like
> to limit the drives and folders that a user can see when they log in with
> rds based on login name.
>
> For example:
>
> user A logs in with DW MX or Home Site and needs access to Folder A on
drive
> A.  I don't want them to have access or even see the drives B,C,etc or
other
> folders then folder A on drive A.
>
> I have looked at sandbox security, but I don't think it gives me what I
> want.  From what I can tell it limits what a application can do running in
X
> folder, not what X users can see or have access to via RDS.
>
> David
>
>
> 
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RE: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-11 Thread Stephenie Hamilton
You can't do it in CFMX. With CF4 or CF5 you could create a security
context for studio users (RDS), but not in MX (b)


~~
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Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Professional
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-Original Message-
From: David Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 1:22 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX Enterprise Security


Could someone tell me how to limit what drives and folders in DW MX or
Home Site connecting to a CF MX Enterprise server.  I have enabled
sandbox security, but it does not seem to limit what drives a user see
when login in
via RDS.   I don't see a way to assign security based on username.

David
- Original Message -
From: "David Brown" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:07 AM
Subject: CF MX Enterprise Security


> I have two different passwords for cfadmin pages and RDS.  But I would
like
> to limit the drives and folders that a user can see when they log in 
> with rds based on login name.
>
> For example:
>
> user A logs in with DW MX or Home Site and needs access to Folder A on
drive
> A.  I don't want them to have access or even see the drives B,C,etc or
other
> folders then folder A on drive A.
>
> I have looked at sandbox security, but I don't think it gives me what 
> I want.  From what I can tell it limits what a application can do 
> running in
X
> folder, not what X users can see or have access to via RDS.
>
> David
>
>
> 

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Re: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
David Brown wrote:
> Could someone tell me how to limit what drives and folders in DW MX or Home
> Site connecting to a CF MX Enterprise server.  I have enabled sandbox
> security, but it does not seem to limit what drives a user see when login in
> via RDS.   I don't see a way to assign security based on username.

You can't assign permissions based on username. The only way you can 
limit access is by running CF MX with the credetials of some account 
that doesn't have permissions to all of the system, but that would still 
only allow permissions on a per server basis, not a per user basis.

Jochem

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Re: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-13 Thread David Brown
Well, thank you both for responding.   In a word that SUCKS big time.
Sometimes I have to ask where is Macromedia brain at?

David


- Original Message -
From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: CF MX Enterprise Security


> David Brown wrote:
> > Could someone tell me how to limit what drives and folders in DW MX or
Home
> > Site connecting to a CF MX Enterprise server.  I have enabled sandbox
> > security, but it does not seem to limit what drives a user see when
login in
> > via RDS.   I don't see a way to assign security based on username.
>
> You can't assign permissions based on username. The only way you can
> limit access is by running CF MX with the credetials of some account
> that doesn't have permissions to all of the system, but that would still
> only allow permissions on a per server basis, not a per user basis.
>
> Jochem
>
> 
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Re: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-13 Thread Jochem van Dieten
David Brown wrote:
> Well, thank you both for responding.   In a word that SUCKS big time.
> Sometimes I have to ask where is Macromedia brain at?

Tossing out RDS security (or maybe just RDS completely), but providing a 
free developers edition instead seems a reasonable solution to me.

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Re: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-13 Thread Thomas Chiverton
On Thursday 13 Feb 2003 14:18 pm, David Brown wrote:
> Well, thank you both for responding.   In a word that SUCKS big time.
> Sometimes I have to ask where is Macromedia brain at?

This is why M don't suggest you enable RDS in production.

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RE: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-13 Thread Douglas.Knudsen
well...you can setup a drive share and have your users map to it.  This will 'sandbox' 
them to a particular directory and no where else.  I setup all my boxen like this.  
Works better with VSS also.  You can also use FTP.

Doug

>-Original Message-
>From: David Brown [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2003 9:19 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: CF MX Enterprise Security
>
>
>Well, thank you both for responding.   In a word that SUCKS big time.
>Sometimes I have to ask where is Macromedia brain at?
>
>David
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Jochem van Dieten" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 4:21 PM
>Subject: Re: CF MX Enterprise Security
>
>
>> David Brown wrote:
>> > Could someone tell me how to limit what drives and folders 
>in DW MX or
>Home
>> > Site connecting to a CF MX Enterprise server.  I have 
>enabled sandbox
>> > security, but it does not seem to limit what drives a user see when
>login in
>> > via RDS.   I don't see a way to assign security based on username.
>>
>> You can't assign permissions based on username. The only way you can
>> limit access is by running CF MX with the credetials of some account
>> that doesn't have permissions to all of the system, but that 
>would still
>> only allow permissions on a per server basis, not a per user basis.
>>
>> Jochem
>>
>> 
>
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RE: CF MX Enterprise Security

2003-02-13 Thread Dave Watts
> Well, thank you both for responding. In a word that 
> SUCKS big time. Sometimes I have to ask where is 
> Macromedia brain at?

I think it's worth remembering that Macromedia, like any other company, has
finite resources available. Previous versions of CF used SiteMinder, a
third-party product that didn't integrate all that well with CF in many
respects. CFMX did away with that, and replaced it with working sandbox
security functionality. So, we gained some things and lost others. If enough
people complain via the wishform, Macromedia will probably expend resources
to add that functionality, though.

If you're not using RDS to browse databases, but just to edit files, you
might consider using WebDAV, which is provided by your web server, to edit
files. Unfortunately, Dreamweaver MX doesn't currently support WebDAV
through HTTPS, apparently, but if you don't need that, it's a relatively
easy solution to implement.

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RE: CF MX / FB3 / Security

2002-07-11 Thread John Beynon

Mike,

You could try Kitty Cat Permissions, available at
http://www.kittycatonline.com/is/where/you/are/at/index.cfm/fuseaction/showa
rticle/article_id/13

At a recent UKCFUG meeting I have heard of a project which is going to be
taken open source which allows site's to be 'skinned' and drop in new sites
to inherit the security model - no further new's as yet though.

Incidently, if you're using fb3 to put it simply you could change your app
structure to look like:

Root
Root/loginlogout
Root/secure
Root/secure/main

And then in your root/secure fbx_settings test for the existance of your
session variable else return them to login/logout. Any circuit/pages beneath
root/secure would then have to pass the test of the session var existing in
order to proceed,

HTH,

John.


> -Original Message-
> From: Tangorre, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 11 July 2002 13:47
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF MX / FB3 / Security
> 
> 
> Anyone have any suggestions for a security framework that 
> fits nicely into the FB3 framework? What I have is a need to 
> keep unauthorized users from even entering into the contents 
> of the site. I thought that the site structure would look 
> something like this:
> 
> root
> root/loginlogout
> root/main
> 
> My thinking is that I can reuse the loginlogout circuit in 
> other applications possibly. In addition, in the main circuit 
> I can check for a session var and if its not defined kick the 
> user back out to the loginlogout circuit.. The rest of the 
> app would fall under main, so this check would cover the 
> contents that I want to protect.
> 
> What are peoples thoughts on this? Anyone have any 
> suggestions or alternate ways of laying this out?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Michael Tangorre
> 
> 
> This email contains MillenniuM Information 
> Systems, LLC. privileged information. 
>  
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Re: RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread ksuh

Christ almighty, Matt, yes, we get it.

My God, you're so anal about having to be right.  Ok, here's your damn 
lollipop.

- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 10:39 am
Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic

> Companies do it all the time. Again, that is the difference 
> between an
> expectation and an announcement. Macromedia expects to ship CFMX for
> WebLogic in a certain time frame, but there is no hard/guaranteed 
> date.When there is, Macromedia will announce the product.
> 
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF MX & WebLogic
> > 
> > Macromedia has stuck BEA Weblogic on every single MX press
> > release with an expected ship date of "later this year".
> > 
> > I do hope they aren't speculating about their own products.
> > 
> > --
> >  jon
> >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 12:01:23 PM, you wrote:
> > ML> That's speculation, not an announcement.
> > 
> > ML> Matt Liotta
> > ML> President & CEO
> > ML> Montara Software, Inc.
> > ML> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > ML> V: 415-577-8070
> > ML> F: 415-341-8906
> > ML> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:00 AM
> > >> To: CF-Talk
> > >> Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic
> > >>
> > >> >>I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.
> > >>
> > >> Will be end of summer - September, I think.
> > >>
> > >> -Craig
> > 
> > 
> 
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RE: RE: CF MX & WebLogic

2002-07-24 Thread Joe Eugene

Looks like Matt is bothering everybody with his silly remarks...
MATT... do you get it yet?

Joe

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 12:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: RE: CF MX & WebLogic


Christ almighty, Matt, yes, we get it.

My God, you're so anal about having to be right.  Ok, here's your damn
lollipop.

- Original Message -
From: Matt Liotta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 10:39 am
Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic

> Companies do it all the time. Again, that is the difference
> between an
> expectation and an announcement. Macromedia expects to ship CFMX for
> WebLogic in a certain time frame, but there is no hard/guaranteed
> date.When there is, Macromedia will announce the product.
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jon Hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:32 AM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: Re: CF MX & WebLogic
> >
> > Macromedia has stuck BEA Weblogic on every single MX press
> > release with an expected ship date of "later this year".
> >
> > I do hope they aren't speculating about their own products.
> >
> > --
> >  jon
> >  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Wednesday, July 24, 2002, 12:01:23 PM, you wrote:
> > ML> That's speculation, not an announcement.
> >
> > ML> Matt Liotta
> > ML> President & CEO
> > ML> Montara Software, Inc.
> > ML> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > ML> V: 415-577-8070
> > ML> F: 415-341-8906
> > ML> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > >> -Original Message-
> > >> From: Craig Thomas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2002 9:00 AM
> > >> To: CF-Talk
> > >> Subject: RE: CF MX & WebLogic
> > >>
> > >> >>I don't believe CFMX for WebLogic has been announced.
> > >>
> > >> Will be end of summer - September, I think.
> > >>
> > >> -Craig
> >
> >
>

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Brook Davies

On my dev server, it takes 1232 ms for a 29k file.
My devserver is CFMX / WinNT/ 800 Cellaron w/ 128 megs




At 09:16 PM 30/07/02 +0200, you wrote:
>Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
>of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
>at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>
>CF MX CF 4.5
>trusted cache no trusted cache
>no debugging  debugging
>Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
>1820 ms   150 ms
>
>Jochem
>
>
>
>// Put in the location of some document of about 25 KB.
>request.File = "";
>
>CRLF = chr(10);
>CurrentPosition = 72;
>
>
>
>
>
>temp = ToBase64(temp);
>if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
> temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);
>
>
>request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
>while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
> temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
> CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
> }
>WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");
>
>
>
>
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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Chad Gray

21k IIS log file
CF MX
P3 500
No Trusted Cache
1172 ms

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX performance issue

Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version 
of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing 
at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).

CF MX CF 4.5
trusted cache no trusted cache
no debugging  debugging
Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
1820 ms   150 ms

Jochem



// Put in the location of some document of about 25 KB.
request.File = "";

CRLF = chr(10);
CurrentPosition = 72;





temp = ToBase64(temp);
if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);


request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
}
WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");




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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Chad Gray

I hit refresh and got 611 ms
Refresh again 1302 ms
Ditto 601 ms
Ditto 601 ms
Ditto 1362 ms

What is up with that?


-Original Message-
From: Chad Gray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF MX performance issue

21k IIS log file
CF MX
P3 500
No Trusted Cache
1172 ms

-Original Message-
From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 2:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX performance issue

Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version 
of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing 
at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).

CF MX CF 4.5
trusted cache no trusted cache
no debugging  debugging
Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
1820 ms   150 ms

Jochem



// Put in the location of some document of about 25 KB.
request.File = "";

CRLF = chr(10);
CurrentPosition = 72;





temp = ToBase64(temp);
if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);


request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
}
WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");





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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Sean A Corfield

On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:16 , Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).

I don't have anything but CFMX installed but I get between 570ms and 800ms 
(regardless of the trusted cache setting) on an 800MHz PowerMac G4 (with 
512Mb RAM) loading a 28k file.

I don't expect trusted cache to make much difference on one small template 
like this BTW.

> while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
>   temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
>   CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
>   }

I guess this is one of those cases where a specific CF function (insert) 
is slower in Java...

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Brook Davies

Are you keeping a list Sean?

At 12:41 PM 30/07/02 -0700, you wrote:
>On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:16 , Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> > Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
> > of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
> > at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>
>I don't have anything but CFMX installed but I get between 570ms and 800ms
>(regardless of the trusted cache setting) on an 800MHz PowerMac G4 (with
>512Mb RAM) loading a 28k file.
>
>I don't expect trusted cache to make much difference on one small template
>like this BTW.
>
> > while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
> >   temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
> >   CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
> >   }
>
>I guess this is one of those cases where a specific CF function (insert)
>is slower in Java...
>
>"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
>-- Margaret Atwood
>
>
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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Jesse Noller

Enter a bug.

Ok, yeah, that was cheap.

Jesse Noller
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Macromedia Server Development
Unix/Linux "special guy" 

> -Original Message-
> From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 4:02 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: Re: CF MX performance issue
> 
> Are you keeping a list Sean?
> 
> At 12:41 PM 30/07/02 -0700, you wrote:
> >On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:16 , Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> > > Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
> > > of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit
> disturbing
> > > at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
> >
> >I don't have anything but CFMX installed but I get between 570ms and
> 800ms
> >(regardless of the trusted cache setting) on an 800MHz PowerMac G4 (with
> >512Mb RAM) loading a 28k file.
> >
> >I don't expect trusted cache to make much difference on one small
> template
> >like this BTW.
> >
> > > while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
> > >   temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
> > >   CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
> > >   }
> >
> >I guess this is one of those cases where a specific CF function (insert)
> >is slower in Java...
> >
> >"If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> >-- Margaret Atwood
> >
> >
> 
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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

CFMX OSX PPC G4 800 MHz 512 Meg RAM

Lots of other stuff running concurrently (IE, BBEdit, Mail Client, 
Sherlock, OpenBase db server)

All standard (Default) Linux install ported to Mac -- no non-default 
admin settings

291-321 ms on 25K file


On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:43 PM, Brook Davies wrote:

> On my dev server, it takes 1232 ms for a 29k file.
> My devserver is CFMX / WinNT/ 800 Cellaron w/ 128 megs
>
>
>
>
> At 09:16 PM 30/07/02 +0200, you wrote:
>> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
>> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
>> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>>
>> CF MX CF 4.5
>> trusted cache no trusted cache
>> no debugging  debugging
>> Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
>> 1820 ms   150 ms
>>
>> Jochem
>>
>>
>> 
>> // Put in the location of some document of about 25 KB.
>> request.File = "";
>>
>> CRLF = chr(10);
>> CurrentPosition = 72;
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>> temp = ToBase64(temp);
>> if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
>> temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);
>>
>>
>> request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
>> while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
>> temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
>> CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
>> }
>> WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");
>> 
>>
>>
>>
> 
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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

same setup 2089-2741 with a 53K file (an O'Reilly article html file)


On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:49 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:

> CFMX OSX PPC G4 800 MHz 512 Meg RAM
>
> Lots of other stuff running concurrently (IE, BBEdit, Mail Client,
> Sherlock, OpenBase db server)
>
> All standard (Default) Linux install ported to Mac -- no non-default
> admin settings
>
> 291-321 ms on 25K file
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:43 PM, Brook Davies wrote:
>
>> On my dev server, it takes 1232 ms for a 29k file.
>> My devserver is CFMX / WinNT/ 800 Cellaron w/ 128 megs
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 09:16 PM 30/07/02 +0200, you wrote:
>>> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
>>> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit 
>>> disturbing
>>> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>>>
>>> CF MX CF 4.5
>>> trusted cache no trusted cache
>>> no debugging  debugging
>>> Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
>>> 1820 ms   150 ms
>>>
>>> Jochem
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> // Put in the location of some document of about 25 KB.
>>> request.File = "";
>>>
>>> CRLF = chr(10);
>>> CurrentPosition = 72;
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>> 
>>> temp = ToBase64(temp);
>>> if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
>>> temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);
>>>
>>>
>>> request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
>>> while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
>>> temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
>>> CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
>>> }
>>> WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> 
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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

Sean

I don't understand why yours is so much slower than mine -- maybe we 
need a consistent file to work with

Dick

On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:41 PM, Sean A Corfield wrote:

> On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 12:16 , Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
>> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
>> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>
> I don't have anything but CFMX installed but I get between 570ms and 
> 800ms
> (regardless of the trusted cache setting) on an 800MHz PowerMac G4 (with
> 512Mb RAM) loading a 28k file.
>
> I don't expect trusted cache to make much difference on one small 
> template
> like this BTW.
>
>> while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
>>  temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
>>  CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
>>  }
>
> I guess this is one of those cases where a specific CF function (insert)
> is slower in Java...
>
> "If you're not annoying somebody, you're not really alive."
> -- Margaret Atwood
>
> 
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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Joseph Thompson

CF 4.5 
p 500 128MB RAM
no trusted cache
debugging off
540 ms 


> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version 
> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing 
> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
> 
> CF MX CF 4.5
> trusted cache no trusted cache
> no debugging  debugging
> Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
> 1820 ms   150 ms
> 



> 21k IIS log file
> CF MX
> P3 500
> No Trusted Cache
> 1172 ms


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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Deeds, Dave

Setup is quad pentium3 xenon, win2k sp-2, 2gb ram, IIS 5.0

File is Tags-pt318.html (from CFML_Reference, 24kb)

Ran page three times, (close browser, open, run page, repeat)

Results:
1) 1000
2) 1076
3) 1078

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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Chad Gray

21k IIS log file
CF 4.5.1
300MHz Celeron
Debugging on
531-541 ms

21k IIS log file (same file as above)
CF MX
P3 500
No Trusted Cache
1172 ms



-Original Message-
From: Joseph Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX performance issue

CF 4.5 
p 500 128MB RAM
no trusted cache
debugging off
540 ms 


> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version

> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit
disturbing 
> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
> 
> CF MX CF 4.5
> trusted cache no trusted cache
> no debugging  debugging
> Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
> 1820 ms   150 ms
> 



> 21k IIS log file
> CF MX
> P3 500
> No Trusted Cache
> 1172 ms



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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

Same test on 800 MHz G4 Mac

277-299

did not close browser -- just reloaded page

But now we have a consistent file.

Dick



On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 01:15 PM, Deeds, Dave wrote:

> Setup is quad pentium3 xenon, win2k sp-2, 2gb ram, IIS 5.0
>
> File is Tags-pt318.html (from CFML_Reference, 24kb)
>
> Ran page three times, (close browser, open, run page, repeat)
>
> Results:
> 1) 1000
> 2) 1076
> 3) 1078
>
> Dave Deeds
> Idaho Power Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>
> 
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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Sean A Corfield

On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 01:02 , Brook Davies wrote:
> Are you keeping a list Sean?

Not my job :)

>> I don't have anything but CFMX installed but I get between 570ms and 
>> 800ms
>> (regardless of the trusted cache setting) on an 800MHz PowerMac G4 (with
>> 512Mb RAM) loading a 28k file.

I picked a different file (23k) and it took around 300ms every time. 
Interesting that a file only slightly bigger took about twice the time. 
Hmm, I tried a 93k file and it took around 13,000ms. O(n^2). Not entirely 
surprising given the algorithm (it has to move ~n characters ~n times).

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

I need to go run some errands -- can't wait to get back, though--

this has been a interesting and pleasant diversion

Dick



On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 01:27 PM, Dick Applebaum wrote:

> Same test on 800 MHz G4 Mac
>
> 277-299
>
> did not close browser -- just reloaded page
>
> But now we have a consistent file.
>
> Dick
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 01:15 PM, Deeds, Dave wrote:
>
>> Setup is quad pentium3 xenon, win2k sp-2, 2gb ram, IIS 5.0
>>
>> File is Tags-pt318.html (from CFML_Reference, 24kb)
>>
>> Ran page three times, (close browser, open, run page, repeat)
>>
>> Results:
>> 1) 1000
>> 2) 1076
>> 3) 1078
>>
>> Dave Deeds
>> Idaho Power Company
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>>>
>>
> 
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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Joseph Thompson

CF 4.5 
p 500 128MB RAM
no trusted cache
debugging off
540 ms 


> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version 
> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing 
> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
> 
> CF MX CF 4.5
> trusted cache no trusted cache
> no debugging  debugging
> Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
> 1820 ms   150 ms
> 


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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Chad Gray

I should really get some work done today, but this is too entertaining.

Tags-pt318.html
CF 4.5.1
300MHz Celeron
Debugging on
711 ms - 722 ms 


Tags-pt318.html 
CF MX
P3 500
Debugging on
No Trusted Cache
1512 ms - 1532 ms



-Original Message-
From: Dick Applebaum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 3:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX performance issue

Same test on 800 MHz G4 Mac

277-299

did not close browser -- just reloaded page

But now we have a consistent file.

Dick



On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 01:15 PM, Deeds, Dave wrote:

> Setup is quad pentium3 xenon, win2k sp-2, 2gb ram, IIS 5.0
>
> File is Tags-pt318.html (from CFML_Reference, 24kb)
>
> Ran page three times, (close browser, open, run page, repeat)
>
> Results:
> 1) 1000
> 2) 1076
> 3) 1078
>
> Dave Deeds
> Idaho Power Company
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>>
> 

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Jon Hall

Hmmm, that server loaded?
I just tested a 2x 1Ghz P3 512MB Wink SP2 CFMX, nothing running on it.
Same file and it is pretty consistent at 437ms after first run.

I recopied Jochem's code to make sure I didn't change it. The results
stay the same.
-- 
 Jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, July 30, 2002, 4:15:10 PM, you wrote:
DD> Setup is quad pentium3 xenon, win2k sp-2, 2gb ram, IIS 5.0

DD> File is Tags-pt318.html (from CFML_Reference, 24kb)

DD> Ran page three times, (close browser, open, run page, repeat)

DD> Results:
DD> 1) 1000
DD> 2) 1076
DD> 3) 1078

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version 
> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing 
> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).

To be absolutely sure I installed CF 5 on the same machine as CF MX is 
running. Next I ran the test with 3 files of different sizes. The files 
are available online [1] for anybody who wants to try this himself, but 
since they are Base64 encoded the actual content shouldn't matter.

Average over multiple runs (CPU at 100% all the time):
  CF 5MX
  9 KB  40   50
24 KB 240 3300
84 KB6700   13

Apparently size does matter. I'll enter it in the bug form :(

Jochem

http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/reg_test/file0.tst
http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/reg_test/file1.tst
http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/reg_test/file2.tst

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Dick Applebaum

On 800MHZ G4 CFMX i got

  9 KB 27-41
24 KB   708-1347
84 KB   60111-60780


Are you guys running the browser, etc on the same box (I am) or just 
measuring a box running CFMX JRun and a Web Server?


On Tuesday, July 30, 2002, at 02:10 PM, Jochem van Dieten wrote:

> Jochem van Dieten wrote:
>> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
>> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
>> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>
> To be absolutely sure I installed CF 5 on the same machine as CF MX is
> running. Next I ran the test with 3 files of different sizes. The files
> are available online [1] for anybody who wants to try this himself, but
> since they are Base64 encoded the actual content shouldn't matter.
>
> Average over multiple runs (CPU at 100% all the time):
>   CF 5MX
>   9 KB  40   50
> 24 KB 240 3300
> 84 KB6700   13
>
> Apparently size does matter. I'll enter it in the bug form :(
>
> Jochem
>
> http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/reg_test/file0.tst
> http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/reg_test/file1.tst
> http://spike.oli.tudelft.nl/jochemd/reg_test/file2.tst
>
> 
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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Kwang Suh

Hmm, not sure if anyone else tried this, but I wrote a quick Java class that
uses the FileInputStream class to read a file.  I read a 126 meg file that
took about 700ms using CFFILE  in CF5, but took around 2000ms using the
class I wrote.

Win 2K Pro, Athlon XP 1800+, 512 megs RAM, 40 gigs HD space.  JDK 1.3.1_01

If anyone else wants to try:

Java class:

import java.io.*;

public class FileLoader {

FileInputStream fileInputStream;
byte[] fileStream = new byte[1];
int fileLength;

public FileLoader(String fileName) {
try {
fileInputStream = new FileInputStream("e:\\" + fileName);

fileLength = fileInputStream.available();

while (fileInputStream.available() > 0) {
fileInputStream.read(fileStream);
}
} catch(Exception e) {
System.out.println("An Error Occured.");
}
}

public int getFileLength() {
return fileLength;
}

public static void main(String args[]) {
FileLoader fileLoader = new FileLoader("dot net sdk.exe");
System.out.println(fileLoader.getFileLength());
}
}

CF Code:






#len(test)#, #loopTime#








#test2#, #loopTime#

> -Original Message-
> From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:17 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: CF MX performance issue
>
>
> Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
> of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
> at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>
> CF MX CF 4.5
> trusted cache no trusted cache
> no debugging  debugging
> Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
> 1820 ms   150 ms
>
> Jochem
>
>
> 
> // Put in the location of some document of about 25 KB.
> request.File = "";
>
> CRLF = chr(10);
> CurrentPosition = 72;
> 
>
> 
>
> 
> temp = ToBase64(temp);
> if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
>   temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);
>
>
> request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
> while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
>   temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
>   CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
>   }
> WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");
> 
>
>
> 
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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread mark brinkworth

Was the page encoding the same for both? I would suspect that putting



on the CFMX page would speed it up.

Cheers

>-Original Message-
>From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 1:17 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: CF MX performance issue
>
>
>Could somebody who has CF MX on the same machine as some older version
>of CF test the script below for me? I find the results a bit disturbing
>at first sight (but maybe you see something wrong with the code).
>
>CF MX CF 4.5
>trusted cache no trusted cache
>no debugging  debugging
>Duron 800 dual Athlon 1.2 GHz
>1820 ms   150 ms
>
>Jochem
>
>
>
>// Put in the location of some document of about 25 KB.
>request.File = "";
>
>CRLF = chr(10);
>CurrentPosition = 72;
>

>
>
>
>temp = ToBase64(temp);
>if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
>   temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);
>
>
>request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
>while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
>   temp = Insert(CRLF,temp,CurrentPosition);
>   CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72 + Len(CRLF);
>   }
>WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");
>
>
>
>

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Paul Hastings

just to toss in another monkey wrench, might useful to note JRE version (i'm
using 1.4 for its "improved" i18n stuff) & if any patches were applied to
either version.

patched cfmx
no cache, debugging on
jre 1.4
win2k sp2
dual pIII 1gb ram
85kb frontpage produced tag fest
6103-6740ms (20 runs)

patched cf5
no cache, debugging on
winnt4 sp6
dual pII 128mb ram
85kb frontpage produced tag fest
7003-8120ms (20 runs)

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RE: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-30 Thread Joe Eugene

I noticed on my Dev box... when you open server docs...
http://127.0.0.1/cfdocs/dochome.htm
Does this have anything to do with the JRE... Docs say
Note: The search dialog works with the J2SE 1.4.0 JRE, J2SE 1.3.1_02 JRE,
and J2SE1.3.1_03 JRE, and with the corresponding SDKs
When i installed the latest J2SE...docs ran faster.. but system slowed..
Any Ideas?

Joe


-Original Message-
From: Paul Hastings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 1:47 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX performance issue


just to toss in another monkey wrench, might useful to note JRE version (i'm
using 1.4 for its "improved" i18n stuff) & if any patches were applied to
either version.

patched cfmx
no cache, debugging on
jre 1.4
win2k sp2
dual pIII 1gb ram
85kb frontpage produced tag fest
6103-6740ms (20 runs)

patched cf5
no cache, debugging on
winnt4 sp6
dual pII 128mb ram
85kb frontpage produced tag fest
7003-8120ms (20 runs)


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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-31 Thread Jesse Houwing

Joe Eugene wrote:
> I noticed on my Dev box... when you open server docs...
> http://127.0.0.1/cfdocs/dochome.htm
> Does this have anything to do with the JRE... Docs say
> Note: The search dialog works with the J2SE 1.4.0 JRE, J2SE 1.3.1_02 JRE,
> and J2SE1.3.1_03 JRE, and with the corresponding SDKs
> When i installed the latest J2SE...docs ran faster.. but system slowed..
> Any Ideas?

I replaced search.cfm with an empty page.

This is the only page that uses java, and it downloads a whopping 3 Mb 
file each time you access the darn thing.

Jesse


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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten

mark brinkworth wrote:
> Was the page encoding the same for both? I would suspect that putting
> 
> 
> 
> on the CFMX page would speed it up.

Makes a difference of maybe a few percent (in the wrong way actually), 
while we're talking a performance degradation of a factor 20. So not 
significant.

Jochem

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-31 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Paul Hastings wrote:
> just to toss in another monkey wrench, might useful to note JRE version (i'm
> using 1.4 for its "improved" i18n stuff) & if any patches were applied to
> either version.

Was running:
JVM Details
   Java Version   1.3.1_03
   Java VendorSun Microsystems Inc.

Retried with:
JVM Details
   Java Version   1.4.0_01
   Java VendorSun Microsystems Inc.

No patches applied.

The numbers:
CF 5MX JRE 1.3MX JRE 1.4
  9 KB405060
24 KB   240  3300  7000
84 KB  670013174000

Jochem

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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-07-31 Thread Paul Hastings

> CF 5MX JRE 1.3MX JRE 1.4
>   9 KB405060
> 24 KB   240  3300  7000
> 84 KB  670013174000

ah that would explain my "sucky" numbers for cfmx. ah, let them eat i18n
cake ;-)


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Re: CF MX performance issue

2002-08-19 Thread Jochem van Dieten

Jochem van Dieten wrote:
> 

[..]
Code to wrap lines using a loop and Insert() was significantly slower on 
CF MX as CF 5. Complete thread can be found in the archive:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=messages&threadid=14563&forumid=4
[..]


> The numbers:
> CF 5MX JRE 1.3MX JRE 1.4
>  9 KB405060
> 24 KB   240  3300  7000
> 84 KB  670013174000

I rewrote the code to use an array instead of a raw string. Basically 
chop up the string in 72 byte substrings, put those in an array and use 
ArrayToList() to put it all together again using Chr(10) as delimiter 
(code below).

The new numbers with MX JRE 1.3 (no patches):
   Old code New code
  9 KB   500
24 KB 3300   10
84 KB   13   50

I didn't feel the need to test other JRE's anymore :)


On a similar note, I have seen a performance increase of a factor 90 by 
replacing ListDeleteAt() by a UDF that converts the list to an array, 
deletes an item and converts the array back to a list (1100 item list).

I think every best practice for CF MX should include a note to avoid 
string/list manipulation for anything but the smallest string/list.

Jochem

-- 
New code (mind the wrap):

request.File = "";

CRLF = chr(10);
CurrentPosition = 1;
tempArray = ArrayNew(1);




temp = ToBase64(temp);
if (Len(temp) MOD 4 IS "1")
temp = RemoveChars(temp, Len(temp) - 1, 1);


request.StartTime = GetTickCount();
while (CurrentPosition LTE Len(temp)) {
ArrayAppend(tempArray, Mid(temp, currentposition, Min(72,Len(temp) - 
currentposition + 1)));
CurrentPosition = CurrentPosition + 72;
}
temp = ArrayToList(tempArray,CRLF);
WriteOutput(GetTickCount() - request.StartTime & " ms");


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RE: CF MX CFGRAPH -- Hmmm?

2004-02-03 Thread Nick Baker
Sandy,

Thanks for the info and CFCHART has some improved features, but how do you 
label the X-Axis of a "line chart"?

I am using both CFCHART and CFCHARTSERIES and tried CFCHARTDATA, but 
CFCHARTDATA creates errors

The best I can tell is that the itemColumn attribute of CFCHART would be 
the thing to label the X-Axis, but the itemColumn attribute seems to be a 
dead dude. I can put a variable or constant in there and it has no effect.

Any clues?

Nick

At 08:27 PM 2/3/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Cfgraph was deprecated in favor of cfchart in MX
>
>   _
>
>From: Nick Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 5:30 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: CF MX CFGRAPH
>
>
>Developed some graphing (Line graphs) on CF 5.0 and it worked.  When I
>uploaded to a ColdFusion MX server, at Intermedia.net, things changed quite
>a lot. Graph is all over the place and the title doesn't show. My guess is
>that the CFGRAPH tag is different for MX.
>
>Can anyone explain the differences or where I can find info online for the
>MX CFGRAPH tag.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Nick
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RE: CF MX in production?

2002-05-30 Thread Tony_Petruzzi

before you do that, I would hope that you have put a copy of your website(s)
on a test server with CFMX and ran some test. Remember that there are some
depreciated tags, cfhttp screwup (mentioned earlier on the list), and other
concerns that you might want take a look at. I would't just jump and upgrade
a production server.

Anthony Petruzzi
Webmaster
954-321-4703
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.sheriff.org


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To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF MX in production?


Just wondering if anyone is using MX in a production environment under real 
loads?

Any problems so far?

We are getting ready to upgrade two of our production servers next week.

Thanks



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Re: CF MX in production?

2002-05-30 Thread Joe Bastian

Wow.. going into production with CFMX next week... hmm
Have you tested your code in Dev environment..with CFMX, apparently
there is a lot of code.. Code validator doesnt catch..
you might want to test for a week or 2 before going to production
with it.

Joe

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To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:06 AM
Subject: CF MX in production?


> Just wondering if anyone is using MX in a production environment under
real
> loads?
>
> Any problems so far?
>
> We are getting ready to upgrade two of our production servers next week.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> NTMail K12 - the Mail Server for Education
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Re: CF MX in production?

2002-05-30 Thread chad

Code checks out great on the development servers.  Everything runs fine.

That i why im asking about production servers and taking the 
load...  Anyone make the big jump yet?



At 10:16 AM 5/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Wow.. going into production with CFMX next week... hmm
>Have you tested your code in Dev environment..with CFMX, apparently
>there is a lot of code.. Code validator doesnt catch..
>you might want to test for a week or 2 before going to production
>with it.
>
>Joe
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:06 AM
>Subject: CF MX in production?
>
>
> > Just wondering if anyone is using MX in a production environment under
>real
> > loads?
> >
> > Any problems so far?
> >
> > We are getting ready to upgrade two of our production servers next week.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > NTMail K12 - the Mail Server for Education
> >
>
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RE: CF MX in production?

2002-05-30 Thread Andre Turrettini

Look everybody!  a guinea pig!  

Just kidding Chad.  Well sort of.  Either way, do keep us posted on any
issues. DRE

-Original Message-
From: chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:28 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX in production?


Code checks out great on the development servers.  Everything runs fine.

That i why im asking about production servers and taking the 
load...  Anyone make the big jump yet?



At 10:16 AM 5/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
>Wow.. going into production with CFMX next week... hmm
>Have you tested your code in Dev environment..with CFMX, apparently
>there is a lot of code.. Code validator doesnt catch..
>you might want to test for a week or 2 before going to production
>with it.
>
>Joe
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:06 AM
>Subject: CF MX in production?
>
>
> > Just wondering if anyone is using MX in a production environment under
>real
> > loads?
> >
> > Any problems so far?
> >
> > We are getting ready to upgrade two of our production servers next week.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> >
> > NTMail K12 - the Mail Server for Education
> >
>

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Re: CF MX in production?

2002-05-30 Thread Michael Dinowitz

The second I get a non-trial copy, I'll have it up on HoF and it'll be running the 
lists.

At 10:06 AM 5/30/02, you wrote:
>Just wondering if anyone is using MX in a production environment under real 
>loads?
>
>Any problems so far?
>
>We are getting ready to upgrade two of our production servers next week.
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
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RE: CF MX in production?

2002-05-30 Thread chad

Hey!

Somebody else jump first!  :)

I wonder if Macromedia has implemented CF MX on any production servers?


At 09:10 AM 5/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:
>Look everybody!  a guinea pig!
>
>Just kidding Chad.  Well sort of.  Either way, do keep us posted on any
>issues. DRE
>
>-Original Message-
>From: chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:28 AM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: Re: CF MX in production?
>
>
>Code checks out great on the development servers.  Everything runs fine.
>
>That i why im asking about production servers and taking the
>load...  Anyone make the big jump yet?
>
>
>
>At 10:16 AM 5/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> >Wow.. going into production with CFMX next week... hmm
> >Have you tested your code in Dev environment..with CFMX, apparently
> >there is a lot of code.. Code validator doesnt catch..
> >you might want to test for a week or 2 before going to production
> >with it.
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:06 AM
> >Subject: CF MX in production?
> >
> >
> > > Just wondering if anyone is using MX in a production environment under
> >real
> > > loads?
> > >
> > > Any problems so far?
> > >
> > > We are getting ready to upgrade two of our production servers next week.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
>
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RE: CF MX in production?

2002-05-30 Thread todd

I know the beta box that they were hosting all the beta stuff was CFMX.

On Thu, 30 May 2002, chad wrote:

> Hey!
> 
> Somebody else jump first!  :)
> 
> I wonder if Macromedia has implemented CF MX on any production servers?
> 
> 
> At 09:10 AM 5/30/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> >Look everybody!  a guinea pig!
> >
> >Just kidding Chad.  Well sort of.  Either way, do keep us posted on any
> >issues. DRE
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: chad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:28 AM
> >To: CF-Talk
> >Subject: Re: CF MX in production?
> >
> >
> >Code checks out great on the development servers.  Everything runs fine.
> >
> >That i why im asking about production servers and taking the
> >load...  Anyone make the big jump yet?
> >
> >
> >
> >At 10:16 AM 5/30/2002 -0400, you wrote:
> > >Wow.. going into production with CFMX next week... hmm
> > >Have you tested your code in Dev environment..with CFMX, apparently
> > >there is a lot of code.. Code validator doesnt catch..
> > >you might want to test for a week or 2 before going to production
> > >with it.
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: "chad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:06 AM
> > >Subject: CF MX in production?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Just wondering if anyone is using MX in a production environment under
> > >real
> > > > loads?
> > > >
> > > > Any problems so far?
> > > >
> > > > We are getting ready to upgrade two of our production servers next week.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > NTMail K12 - the Mail Server for Education
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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