Re: CFDJ?
http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/ ? On 9/13/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253005 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ?
On 9/13/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? Not sure what URL you're trying, but this works fine for me (including the links to each article): http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/ Regards, Dave. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253009 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ?
Not sure, but I know it was becoming subject to very low traffic and Spam (something you do sterling job of keeping out!) This e-mail is from Reed Exhibitions (Oriel House, 26 The Quadrant, Richmond, Surrey, TW9 1DL, United Kingdom), a division of Reed Business, Registered in England, Number 678540. It contains information which is confidential and may also be privileged. It is for the exclusive use of the intended recipient(s). If you are not the intended recipient(s) please note that any form of distribution, copying or use of this communication or the information in it is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error please return it to the sender or call our switchboard on +44 (0) 20 89107910. The opinions expressed within this communication are not necessarily those expressed by Reed Exhibitions. Visit our website at http://www.reedexpo.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk Sent: Wed Sep 13 17:37:38 2006 Subject: CFDJ? I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253006 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFDJ?
Oh sorry, the LIST. My fault for not reading properly. On 9/14/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The site came up for me: http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/ On 9/14/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253010 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFDJ?
They probably forgot to renew the domain name. But good news, the JDJ domain has been renewed for the next 150 years. On 9/13/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253012 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
RE: CFDJ?
I used to be on it (still am, at least I didn't unsubscribe), but no messages have come through for months, maybe even a year. I was curious one day and sent a message to the list address, and I got a delivery failure of some sort. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:38 AM I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253013 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ?
ooops...me too :\ On 9/13/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh sorry, the LIST. My fault for not reading properly. On 9/14/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The site came up for me: http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/ On 9/14/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? Michael Dinowitz President: House of Fusion http://www.houseoffusion.com Publisher: Fusion Authority http://www.fusionauthority.com Adobe Community Expert ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253017 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ?
On 9/13/06, James Holmes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh sorry, the LIST. My fault for not reading properly. Woops, me too! ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253016 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ?
This link works for me: http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/ Oops, you meant the list. I haven't seen that. Michael probably spammed it so everyone would just switch to Fusion Authority Quarterly. (couldn't help it)... On 9/13/06, Dave Carabetta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/13/06, Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? Not sure what URL you're trying, but this works fine for me (including the links to each article): http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/ Regards, Dave. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253022 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.4
Re: CFDJ?
As far as I know I'm still on the list as well Haven't gotten a message in about forever. Yves On 9/13/06, Munson, Jacob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I used to be on it (still am, at least I didn't unsubscribe), but no messages have come through for months, maybe even a year. I was curious one day and sent a message to the list address, and I got a delivery failure of some sort. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 10:38 AM I was just asked if the CFDJ list was still around. I checked out their site and no dice. Anyone (Simon) have a clue about its status? This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential and/or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein (including any reliance thereon) is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. If you received this transmission in error, please immediately contact the sender and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. A1. ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/message.cfm/messageid:253024 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Talk/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFDJ
Yeah, I get the Apache test page. 9:46 PM -Original Message- From: B V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFDJ This may just be me, but I can't access the CFDJ site. http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/. Has anyone else noticed this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247007 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ
yes. i have. On 7/18/06, B V [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This may just be me, but I can't access the CFDJ site. http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/. Has anyone else noticed this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247008 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ
Yeah, it's odd. Of all the things a website goes down for... On 7/18/06, Jeff Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I get the Apache test page. 9:46 PM -Original Message- From: B V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFDJ This may just be me, but I can't access the CFDJ site. http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/. Has anyone else noticed this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247009 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
RE: CFDJ
Maybe they should switch to Windows heheh *WEG* Eric -Original Message- From: B V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 18 July 2006 20:54 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ Yeah, it's odd. Of all the things a website goes down for... On 7/18/06, Jeff Small [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I get the Apache test page. 9:46 PM -Original Message- From: B V [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 9:39 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFDJ This may just be me, but I can't access the CFDJ site. http://coldfusion.sys-con.com/. Has anyone else noticed this? ~| Introducing the Fusion Authority Quarterly Update. 80 pages of hard-hitting, up-to-date ColdFusion information by your peers, delivered to your door four times a year. http://www.fusionauthority.com/quarterly Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/message.cfm/forumid:4/messageid:247013 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4
Re: CFDJ Spell Check Article this Month
Sorry, I didn't have time to actually write that portion of the code.The article itself was already longer than it should've been, so I just threw that out as an idea of where to go from here. I think I would implement that by having a list of ignored words.The spell check engine reports back the location of the error in the string, so you can see if the word at that location is ignored.. if not, pop up a window and ask if they want to replace it with something.If they chose to ignore all then add it to the ignore words list.. and keep doing that as you loop through the list of spelling errors. -d [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
On Friday 09 Jan 2004 16:16 pm, Dave Carabetta wrote: scp usage: WinSCP provides a very nice GUI (either local/remote two pane, or single 'remote') to SCP / SFTP for Windows. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
my apologies.I thought we were talking about the merits of CFDJ Content in comparison to book content. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 January 2004 02:12 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay You might have missed an email or something. I wasn't comparing the content at all. I was disagreeing with you suggesting that someone should write for CFDJ. See my emails for why I believe writing CFML content for an online publication would be better. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 6:41 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: we were comparing CFDJ to other publications... things in print... you know, paper.There was no discussion of a comparison between the content in CFDJ and online resources before your post, nor should there be one now.Hell, if you want to compare the content in CFDJ or any other CFML reference to the content in one outstanding resource, why would it be builder.com I'd say that builder.com doesn't even compare with macromedia.com's online documentation, devnet, etc.I think the point was that CFDJ was being compared with books and periodicals in print.Some people stated that they didn't think that it was worth it's price for a year's subscription compared to the price of some of the books that are out there.I'm not sure what that has to do with websites?There are a lot of great resources out there. I don't think CFDJ is the best CFML resource in the world, but I do personally think that what you get for the cost of receiving the magazine for a year as opposed to one or two of the books on the market is much more worth the money.That's just me... and that's what (I thought) we were debating.Anyway - this is begining to sound like a thread that belongs on the CF Community list. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Where did you get this fact that Builder is not a publication. Are you suggesting that Internet sites can't be publications? What is the difference between an online magazine and offline one? CFDJ makes content available online in addition to print. Does that make it less of a publication? I don't see any facts in your statement at all. What I do see is bias towards to the online publication industry. And it is an industry, that is growing, which the offline publishing industry certainly can't say. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: first of all, Fusebox and Mach II are not CFML - they're frameworks that are written in CFML.In the interest of conserving bandwidth, ignore that I said that - I don't feel like getting into (nor will I) a discussion about whether or not a forum that talks primaily about FB and MACH II is a CFML forum or not.What I welcome dialog about is the fact that builder.com is not a publication. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
I wouldn't consider builder.com more reputable... in fact most, not all, websites are less reputable in my opnion.Anyone can create a site, where as a publication in print requires more organization and support.I don't know what their subscription numbers are, so I can't comment on that.I think this thread should be moved to the Community list now. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 January 2004 02:15 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I posted a link - why don't you write an article?Personally, I'd love to see one from you. When Sys-con starts compensating authors for content and is able to actually find a significant number of real subscribers instead of lying about their readership just to support ad sales then I might be interested. In the mean time, I will continue to write for reputable publishers. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
On Friday 09 Jan 2004 10:17 am, Simon Horwith wrote: websites are less reputable in my opnion.Anyone can create a site, where But only some web sites will attract the 'names' in the community - either as writers, reviewers or just plain members. Those will be the reputable ones. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
Thanks Matt...I was starting to think that might be the problem. BTWwhat did you mean by this line??: Be aware that there are only solutions besides iText for PDF generation. Did you mean other solutions? Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay) Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out.I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linuxany insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) The errors you are getting can only come from malformed class files. I suggest you retry your download and/or get support for the author(s). Be aware that there are only solutions besides iText for PDF generation. Additionally, there are resources --such as myself-- that are available on a contract basis to take care of these sorts of things for you. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
Another good point.The Secure FTP app was set to auto, but I'll try again with binary forced Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay) Oh yeah, possibly you were uploading the JAR/class files via FTP and didn't transfer them as binary if they work on Windows and not on Linux. Of course, if you are using FTP; stop right now and move over to SCP. You life will be easier and your machines will be more secure. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 9:17 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out.I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linuxany insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) The errors you are getting can only come from malformed class files. I suggest you retry your download and/or get support for the author(s). Be aware that there are only solutions besides iText for PDF generation. Additionally, there are resources --such as myself-- that are available on a contract basis to take care of these sorts of things for you. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
Did you mean other solutions? I did mean other, sorry for the typo. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
Another good point. The Secure FTP app was set to auto, but I'll try again with binary forced Again, I would check out SCP as it is much nicer for transferring files and more secure too. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
Yeah I have Putty and use it for root level access (nice and secure)still learning my Linux commands...but scp is a command right?secure copy? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:01 AM Subject: Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay) Another good point.The Secure FTP app was set to auto, but I'll try again with binary forced Again, I would check out SCP as it is much nicer for transferring files and more secure too. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
ooo...hey...if you can fire me the command to grab an entire local dir and scp it up I'd be one happy camper ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:01 AM Subject: Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay) Another good point.The Secure FTP app was set to auto, but I'll try again with binary forced Again, I would check out SCP as it is much nicer for transferring files and more secure too. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
SCP is secure copy or the cp command over SSH. Putty has a program named pscp or Putty SCP that will allow you to do SCP from the command-line on Windows. For example, transferring a file is as follows. prompt pscp somefile.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/username/somefile.txt -Matt On Jan 9, 2004, at 11:03 AM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: Yeah I have Putty and use it for root level access (nice and secure)still learning my Linux commands...but scp is a command right? secure copy? Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:01 AM Subject: Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay) Another good point. The Secure FTP app was set to auto, but I'll try again with binary forced Again, I would check out SCP as it is much nicer for transferring files and more secure too. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
prompt pscp -r somedir [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/home/username/somedir -Matt On Jan 9, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Bryan Stevenson wrote: ooo...hey...if you can fire me the command to grab an entire local dir and scp it up I'd be one happy camper ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 8:01 AM Subject: Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay) Another good point. The Secure FTP app was set to auto, but I'll try again with binary forced Again, I would check out SCP as it is much nicer for transferring files and more secure too. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Yeah I have Putty and use it for root level access (nice and secure)still learning my Linux commands...but scp is a command right? secure copy? scp usage: scp -v localfile.txt [EMAIL PROTECTED]:localfile.txt You will then be prompted for a password and it will copy the file out there for you with the name localfile.txt. (The -v option is for verbose so that you can see exactly what's going on. Not necessary, but sometimes useful.) If you're talking about directories, you should just be able to do scp -vr localdir [EMAIL PROTECTED]:localdir Note that the -r option makes it recursive such that sub-directories are copied out as well. Regards, Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Matt...you are da man...the binary option was the issue.Now all classes are recognized and the code works!!! Many many many thanks ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 6:23 PM Subject: Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay) Oh yeah, possibly you were uploading the JAR/class files via FTP and didn't transfer them as binary if they work on Windows and not on Linux. Of course, if you are using FTP; stop right now and move over to SCP. You life will be easier and your machines will be more secure. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 9:17 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out.I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linuxany insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) The errors you are getting can only come from malformed class files. I suggest you retry your download and/or get support for the author(s). Be aware that there are only solutions besides iText for PDF generation. Additionally, there are resources --such as myself-- that are available on a contract basis to take care of these sorts of things for you. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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If I remember the number right in the last solicitation to advertise in SYS-CON that I got, the CFDJ numbers were something like 3,000 and the JDJ was something like 50,000 (Sorry if I'm off in specific number, but order of magnitude should be right). Hard to run a magazine and pay for content with ad revenue on a small circulation. Professional journals in the sciences handle this by having 4-digit subscription prices -- or by having the *writer* pay for publication (yeah -- you have to do the research, submit it for peer review, and then pay to have it published. standard part of most NSF grants) I just wrote my first CFDJ article this week. I've written for O'Reilly, WebReview, searchDatabase.com for pay and its been fun, but it was also fun to write up something I had recently been playing with (Ant) and write it up in a ColdFusion context. Pay's only part of it -- professional recognition plays a role. I've written 4 books with two more coming out soon and none of them made close to my hourly rate :) But the contracts, training gigs, and speaking gigs partially made up for that. I've spoken at a number of conferences and there's rarely any money involved (and if there is, it's again, far less than what the preparation hours would pay if used for contracting). Most professions have this mix of paid activity and professional courtesy activity. It's good professionally to give back to the community, regardless of whether there's a direct payment (cash) or indirect (reputation, goodwill, business development). That said, I'd write far more frequently if there was a token payment :) I've found that writing for online pubs that pay is second only to training as far as bang-for-the-buck goes. I only know one person who's made a significant amount from a book (nearly 6 figs from an official MS IE book). And you've got no time to consult if all you do is write :) And none of this should be construed to be critical of Matt wanting to be paid for writing -- the contributions he makes to CF-Talk alone range from really useful to really fun. I'm guessing that Michael Dinowitz isn't paying for Matt's CF-Talk content Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I posted a link - why don't you write an article?Personally, I'd love to see one from you. When Sys-con starts compensating authors for content and is able to actually find a significant number of real subscribers instead of lying about their readership just to support ad sales then I might be interested. In the mean time, I will continue to write for reputable publishers. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Just to be clear, I do make contributions without pay. Whether that be in the form of speaking at user groups and/or conferences or writing articles. However, I have never written for CFDJ and I don't see that changing anytime soon. If I am going to contribute for free content to the community then the community should at least be able to read it for free. As such, you will likely only find content from me at freely available sites. -Matt On Jan 9, 2004, at 4:17 PM, John Paul Ashenfelter wrote: If I remember the number right in the last solicitation to advertise in SYS-CON that I got, the CFDJ numbers were something like 3,000 and the JDJ was something like 50,000 (Sorry if I'm off in specific number, but order of magnitude should be right). Hard to run a magazine and pay for content with ad revenue on a small circulation. Professional journals in the sciences handle this by having 4-digit subscription prices -- or by having the *writer* pay for publication (yeah -- you have to do the research, submit it for peer review, and then pay to have it published. standard part of most NSF grants) I just wrote my first CFDJ article this week. I've written for O'Reilly, WebReview, searchDatabase.com for pay and its been fun, but it was also fun to write up something I had recently been playing with (Ant) and write it up in a ColdFusion context. Pay's only part of it -- professional recognition plays a role. I've written 4 books with two more coming out soon and none of them made close to my hourly rate :) But the contracts, training gigs, and speaking gigs partially made up for that. I've spoken at a number of conferences and there's rarely any money involved (and if there is, it's again, far less than what the preparation hours would pay if used for contracting). Most professions have this mix of paid activity and professional courtesy activity. It's good professionally to give back to the community, regardless of whether there's a direct payment (cash) or indirect (reputation, goodwill, business development). That said, I'd write far more frequently if there was a token payment :) I've found that writing for online pubs that pay is second only to training as far as bang-for-the-buck goes. I only know one person who's made a significant amount from a book (nearly 6 figs from an official MS IE book). And you've got no time to consult if all you do is write :) And none of this should be construed to be critical of Matt wanting to be paid for writing -- the contributions he makes to CF-Talk alone range from really useful to really fun. I'm guessing that Michael Dinowitz isn't paying for Matt's CF-Talk content Regards, John Paul Ashenfelter CTO/Transitionpoint [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Matt Liotta To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 9:14 PM Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I posted a link - why don't you write an article? Personally, I'd love to see one from you. When Sys-con starts compensating authors for content and is able to actually find a significant number of real subscribers instead of lying about their readership just to support ad sales then I might be interested. In the mean time, I will continue to write for reputable publishers. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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What a bunch of whingers! And so soon in the New Year too! Strewth! If you ppl are bitching about how much it cost consider us overseas. It costs more than TWICE as much. Please consider. PS. I love CFDJ - Simons write-up on MAX2003 was the closest most of the world would get to it and I will welcome him to MXDU 2004 with gratitude just to thank him for the many books, articles, etc he has contributed for all of us. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \¯\/¯/ |¯|)¯) /¯/\¯\ \¯\/¯/ /_/\_\ |_|)_) \_\/_/ /_/\_\ RULES [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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So the Design Pattern series was invaluable. How much time did that series save you to be able to work on extra projects? How much is your time worth per hour? I'd bet that over the course of the subscription year, the product of number of hours saved multiplied by your hourly rate is more than the cost of the subscription. And if properly applied, those techniques won't save you time and money just this year, but in the future as well. That's how I justify it at least. -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Much of life is Dutch one-digit operations in which legions of big robust people crouch behind badly cracked dike systems attached by the thumbs their wide balloon-pantsed rumps up-ended to the northern sun while, back in town, little black-suspendered tulip magnates stride around. - Dutch, Kay Ryan On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Dave Carabetta wrote: Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Not to mention that your subscription gives you access to the archives which means for the price of a years subscription you actually are getting more than a years worth of content ;-) Kola -Original Message- From: Howard Fore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 13:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay So the Design Pattern series was invaluable. How much time did that series save you to be able to work on extra projects? How much is your time worth per hour? I'd bet that over the course of the subscription year, the product of number of hours saved multiplied by your hourly rate is more than the cost of the subscription. And if properly applied, those techniques won't save you time and money just this year, but in the future as well. That's how I justify it at least. -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Much of life is Dutch one-digit operations in which legions of big robust people crouch behind badly cracked dike systems attached by the thumbs their wide balloon-pantsed rumps up-ended to the northern sun while, back in town, little black-suspendered tulip magnates stride around. - Dutch, Kay Ryan On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Dave Carabetta wrote: Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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On Thursday, January 8, 2004, at 01:26AM, Dave Carabetta wrote: ...and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me... The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. I'm not sure it's fair to compare CFDJ to Time.Because CFDJ is so specialized, it reaches a relatively limited audience, which means Sys-Con cannot charge nearly what a publication like Time can charge for advertising.Generally speaking, the more specialized a publication, the more expensive it is. Christian [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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If it ever actually gets to you.We haven't seen one in months.This isn't the first time either, I have finally just just given up and won't be resubscribing. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).Nor have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Not to mention that your subscription gives you access to the archives which means for the price of a years subscription you actually are getting more than a years worth of content ;-) Kola -Original Message- From: Howard Fore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 13:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay So the Design Pattern series was invaluable. How much time did that series save you to be able to work on extra projects? How much is your time worth per hour? I'd bet that over the course of the subscription year, the product of number of hours saved multiplied by your hourly rate is more than the cost of the subscription. And if properly applied, those techniques won't save you time and money just this year, but in the future as well. That's how I justify it at least. -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Much of life is Dutch one-digit operations in which legions of big robust people crouch behind badly cracked dike systems attached by the thumbs their wide balloon-pantsed rumps up-ended to the northern sun while, back in town, little black-suspendered tulip magnates stride around. - Dutch, Kay Ryan On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Dave Carabetta wrote: Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Dave, Keep in mind that with the lower subscription rate mentioned earlier, and especially with the low potential subscription rate (there are a lot less CF users than there are people that can read Time magazine), sys-con is going to get a lot less from advertising than magazines with a higher subscription rate.They have a lot less to work with and I think they do a great job with what they have. Also remember that the authors are not paid for their articles, they are voluntary contributions.With that being the case, there aren't too many people that would do it on a regular basis.I've contributed a few articles, but it's certainly not something I'd like to do more than a few times a year since it does take a lot of time and that's time I can spend doing other things (like earning money). I'll agree that there is a lot more information available for free now than there used to be, but you have to be careful about editorial quality and even accuracy.The vast majority of blogs post small snippets and not full articles like in a magazine, and many blogs post incorrect information. With CFDJ, there is an assurance of some level of quality (not perfection, but a certain level) due to the editorial review and CFDJ's review board. My $0.02 Best regards, Sam -- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ, especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the bill, I think my opinion is pretty clear. Regards, Dave. [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Also consider the Cold Fusion programming is not as widespread as say .NET or some others. Whereas you can get literally hundreds of books on .NET, JAVA etc CF has a few dozen. The audience has been pretty stable since back in the late 90's and stayed that way. ** A side note ** Personally the reason I think MACR even originally bought Allaire was because the Generator project they had sucked so bad and they needed a good application engine that had great web functionality and would integrate into Flash more readily. Well, Bingo! To boot they also get all of the loyal CF developers who, for better or worse, will stick with the system because they love it. I remember back in the Team Allaire days when A. Guthrie (sp) sent out all the stuff on the changes. Man how I long for the good ol' Allaire days ** End side note ** Well anyway, because of this you are not going to see a lot of people out there getting these mags. Not to mention that lists like this plus others provide free help as well. Generally I find that I need help with a very specific item and more often than not the mags don't cover what I am wanting. They do look nice on my rack at work though next to my other JAVA and .NET mags. Stephen E. Schuster PeopleSoft Administrator 2000 Ashland Drive Ashland, KY 41101 Office Phone 606.920.7447 Cell Phone 606.831.4590 _ From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Dave, Keep in mind that with the lower subscription rate mentioned earlier, and especially with the low potential subscription rate (there are a lot less CF users than there are people that can read Time magazine), sys-con is going to get a lot less from advertising than magazines with a higher subscription rate.They have a lot less to work with and I think they do a great job with what they have. Also remember that the authors are not paid for their articles, they are voluntary contributions.With that being the case, there aren't too many people that would do it on a regular basis.I've contributed a few articles, but it's certainly not something I'd like to do more than a few times a year since it does take a lot of time and that's time I can spend doing other things (like earning money). I'll agree that there is a lot more information available for free now than there used to be, but you have to be careful about editorial quality and even accuracy.The vast majority of blogs post small snippets and not full articles like in a magazine, and many blogs post incorrect information. With CFDJ, there is an assurance of some level of quality (not perfection, but a certain level) due to the editorial review and CFDJ's review board. My $0.02 Best regards, Sam -- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3899043/ http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3899043/ Isn't this just too precious Stephen E. Schuster PeopleSoft Administrator 2000 Ashland Drive Ashland, KY 41101 Office Phone 606.920.7447 Cell Phone 606.831.4590 _ From: Samuel Neff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:57 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Dave, Keep in mind that with the lower subscription rate mentioned earlier, and especially with the low potential subscription rate (there are a lot less CF users than there are people that can read Time magazine), sys-con is going to get a lot less from advertising than magazines with a higher subscription rate.They have a lot less to work with and I think they do a great job with what they have. Also remember that the authors are not paid for their articles, they are voluntary contributions.With that being the case, there aren't too many people that would do it on a regular basis.I've contributed a few articles, but it's certainly not something I'd like to do more than a few times a year since it does take a lot of time and that's time I can spend doing other things (like earning money). I'll agree that there is a lot more information available for free now than there used to be, but you have to be careful about editorial quality and even accuracy.The vast majority of blogs post small snippets and not full articles like in a magazine, and many blogs post incorrect information. With CFDJ, there is an assurance of some level of quality (not perfection, but a certain level) due to the editorial review and CFDJ's review board. My $0.02 Best regards, Sam -- Blog:http://www.rewindlife.com http://www.rewindlife.com Chart: http://www.blinex.com/products/charting http://www.blinex.com/products/charting -- -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 1:26 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ, especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the bill, I think my opinion is pretty clear. Regards, Dave. _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I don't work for sys-con, but if you let me know about the subscription problem I'll get to the bottom of it for you. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 13:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay If it ever actually gets to you.We haven't seen one in months.This isn't the first time either, I have finally just just given up and won't be resubscribing. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).Nor have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Not to mention that your subscription gives you access to the archives which means for the price of a years subscription you actually are getting more than a years worth of content ;-) Kola -Original Message- From: Howard Fore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 13:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay So the Design Pattern series was invaluable. How much time did that series save you to be able to work on extra projects? How much is your time worth per hour? I'd bet that over the course of the subscription year, the product of number of hours saved multiplied by your hourly rate is more than the cost of the subscription. And if properly applied, those techniques won't save you time and money just this year, but in the future as well. That's how I justify it at least. -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Much of life is Dutch one-digit operations in which legions of big robust people crouch behind badly cracked dike systems attached by the thumbs their wide balloon-pantsed rumps up-ended to the northern sun while, back in town, little black-suspendered tulip magnates stride around. - Dutch, Kay Ryan On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Dave Carabetta wrote: Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Thanks - glad to hear it ;) ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 07:36 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay What a bunch of whingers! And so soon in the New Year too! Strewth! If you ppl are bitching about how much it cost consider us overseas. It costs more than TWICE as much. Please consider. PS. I love CFDJ - Simons write-up on MAX2003 was the closest most of the world would get to it and I will welcome him to MXDU 2004 with gratitude just to thank him for the many books, articles, etc he has contributed for all of us. Peter Tilbrook ColdFusion Applications Developer ColdGen Internet Solutions Manager, ACT and Region ColdFusion Users Group - http://www.actcfug.com 4/73 Tharwa Road Queanbeyan, NSW, 2620 AUSTRALIA Telephone: +61-2-6284-2727 Mobile: +61-0439-401-823 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] \¯\/¯/ |¯|)¯) /¯/\¯\ \¯\/¯/ /_/\_\ |_|)_) \_\/_/ /_/\_\ RULES [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I think your opinions are a bit strong, but I can relate with what you're saying and believe me - no offense taken.Personally, I get more from the CFDJ articles than I ever have or likely will from any of the ColdFusion books on the market.I also think that if you're going to spend money on something, why not on something that's kept up to date, right? As for the quality of the content - here's a novel idea - do something about it!!Why not help to make the content more what you think it should be by writing an article rather than complaining aabout it? Visit http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/writers.cfm for more info. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 06:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ, especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the bill, I think my opinion is pretty clear. Regards, Dave. - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 06:06 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I didn't get the email, but for what it's worth I think CFDJ is terrific for what you get - in fact it's a better buy for your money than many of the books in some ways.It costs a little more than most of the books on the market, but the topics vary, there's focus on current news and community activity, the material is applicable to the newest products (as opposed to being outdated within 6 months like so many of the books are), etc. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 22:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get. I know many people who don't care, because their company pays for it. i'm not in that position, unfortunately. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: SOT: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I got an email from sys-con today, as probably a lot of folks here did. Did the CFDJ subscription reach strike anyone else as surprising? ColdFusion Developer's Journal:3,000 copies Bummer.Good luck to 'em, though. -- --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Given that there are many more reputable publications that will compensate the author for CFML content says to me at least that a person's time would be better spent elsewhere. In fact, I strongly believe that many other publications that aren't specific to CFML have more CF readers anyway. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Simon Horwith wrote: I think your opinions are a bit strong, but I can relate with what you're saying and believe me - no offense taken. Personally, I get more from the CFDJ articles than I ever have or likely will from any of the ColdFusion books on the market. I also think that if you're going to spend money on something, why not on something that's kept up to date, right? As for the quality of the content - here's a novel idea - do something about it!! Why not help to make the content more what you think it should be by writing an article rather than complaining aabout it? Visithttp://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/writers.cfmfor more info. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 06:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ, especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the bill, I think my opinion is pretty clear. Regards, Dave. - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 06:06 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I didn't get the email, but for what it's worth I think CFDJ is terrific for what you get - in fact it's a better buy for your money than many of the books in some ways. It costs a little more than most of the books on the market, but the topics vary, there's focus on current news and community activity, the material is applicable to the newest products (as opposed to being outdated within 6 months like so many of the books are), etc. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 22:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get. I know many people who don't care, because their company pays for it. i'm not in that position, unfortunately. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: SOT: CFDJ isn't
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Got any examples? :O) -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 16:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Given that there are many more reputable publications that will compensate the author for CFML content says to me at least that a person's time would be better spent elsewhere. In fact, I strongly believe that many other publications that aren't specific to CFML have more CF readers anyway. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Simon Horwith wrote: I think your opinions are a bit strong, but I can relate with what you're saying and believe me - no offense taken.Personally, I get more from the CFDJ articles than I ever have or likely will from any of the ColdFusion books on the market.I also think that if you're going to spend money on something, why not on something that's kept up to date, right? As for the quality of the content - here's a novel idea - do something about it!!Why not help to make the content more what you think it should be by writing an article rather than complaining aabout it? Visithttp://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/writers.cfmfor more info. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 06:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ, especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the bill, I think my opinion is pretty clear. Regards, Dave. - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 06:06 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I didn't get the email, but for what it's worth I think CFDJ is terrific for what you get - in fact it's a better buy for your money than many of the books in some ways.It costs a little more than most of the books on the market, but the topics vary, there's focus on current news and community activity, the material is applicable to the newest products (as opposed to being outdated within 6 months like so many of the books are), etc. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 22:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get. I know many people who don't care, because their company pays for it. i'm not in that position, unfortunately. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: SOT: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I got an email from sys-con today, as probably a lot of folks
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Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Odd that you should mention them. As in their web development section Coldfusion isn't listed as one of their supported scripting languages. They have listed ASP,PHP,_javascript_ and others, but not CFML. I've found one article on the CFLOGIN tag under the Architect heading. What area of Builder.com has quite a bit of CFML related content? -Gel -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF -8safe=offas_qdr=allq=+coldfusion+OR+cfml+site%3Abuilder.com.combtnG =Google+Search Looks like a lot to me. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Angel Stewart wrote: Odd that you should mention them. As in their web development section Coldfusion isn't listed as one of their supported scripting languages. They have listed ASP,PHP,_javascript_ and others, but not CFML. I've found one article on the CFLOGIN tag under the Architect heading. What area of Builder.com has quite a bit of CFML related content? -Gel -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Ah, there are a couple. So odd CF isn't listed anywhere on their site navigation under web development though. I also find many of the articles to be quite light in comparison to those found on CFDJ. -Gel -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] HYPERLINK http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTFh ttp://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF -8safe=offas_qdr=allq=+coldfusion+OR+cfml+site%3Abuilder.com.combtnG =Google+Search Looks like a lot to me. -Matt --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I also find many of the articles to be quite light in comparison to those found on CFDJ. Builder does tend to be light on the code side of things. If you are looking for more code heavy content then I would point you to other resources such as Macromedia, Evolt, or DevX. All of my non-editorial articles published at each of those respective sights are quite advanced or so I have been told. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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FYI - for any of you that have had subscription problems, I just recieved this message from the CFDJ chief editor, Robert Diamond, who asked me to pass it along: if anyone's got a subscription problem, they can contact me @ [EMAIL PROTECTED] /201-802-3051, and I'll personally go choke whoever needs to be choked to ensure a permanent solution to their problem. :-) So there you have it. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 13:45 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay If it ever actually gets to you.We haven't seen one in months.This isn't the first time either, I have finally just just given up and won't be resubscribing. -- Timothy Heald Web Portfolio Manager Overseas Security Advisory Council U.S. Department of State 571.345.2319 The opinions expressed here do not necessarily reflect those of the U.S. Department of State or any affiliated organization(s).Nor have these opinions been approved or sanctioned by these organizations. This e-mail is unclassified based on the definitions in E.O. 12958. -Original Message- From: Kola Oyedeji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 8:39 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Not to mention that your subscription gives you access to the archives which means for the price of a years subscription you actually are getting more than a years worth of content ;-) Kola -Original Message- From: Howard Fore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 13:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay So the Design Pattern series was invaluable. How much time did that series save you to be able to work on extra projects? How much is your time worth per hour? I'd bet that over the course of the subscription year, the product of number of hours saved multiplied by your hourly rate is more than the cost of the subscription. And if properly applied, those techniques won't save you time and money just this year, but in the future as well. That's how I justify it at least. -- Howard Fore, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Much of life is Dutch one-digit operations in which legions of big robust people crouch behind badly cracked dike systems attached by the thumbs their wide balloon-pantsed rumps up-ended to the northern sun while, back in town, little black-suspendered tulip magnates stride around. - Dutch, Kay Ryan On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:26 AM, Dave Carabetta wrote: Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). _ _ [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I have no idea what you're talking about.Care to shed some insight as to what mags you believe to be more reputable and that will also provide readers with CFML content? ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 16:46 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Given that there are many more reputable publications that will compensate the author for CFML content says to me at least that a person's time would be better spent elsewhere. In fact, I strongly believe that many other publications that aren't specific to CFML have more CF readers anyway. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 11:14 AM, Simon Horwith wrote: I think your opinions are a bit strong, but I can relate with what you're saying and believe me - no offense taken.Personally, I get more from the CFDJ articles than I ever have or likely will from any of the ColdFusion books on the market.I also think that if you're going to spend money on something, why not on something that's kept up to date, right? As for the quality of the content - here's a novel idea - do something about it!!Why not help to make the content more what you think it should be by writing an article rather than complaining aabout it? Visithttp://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/writers.cfmfor more info. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 06:26 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ, especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the bill, I think my opinion is pretty clear. Regards, Dave. - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 06:06 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I didn't get the email, but for what it's worth I think CFDJ is terrific for what you get - in fact it's a better buy for your money than many of the books in some ways.It costs a little more than most of the books on the market, but the topics vary, there's focus on current news and community activity, the material is applicable to the newest products (as opposed to being outdated within 6 months like so many of the books are), etc. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 22:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get. I know many
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first of all, Fusebox and Mach II are not CFML - they're frameworks that are written in CFML.In the interest of conserving bandwidth, ignore that I said that - I don't feel like getting into (nor will I) a discussion about whether or not a forum that talks primaily about FB and MACH II is a CFML forum or not.What I welcome dialog about is the fact that builder.com is not a publication. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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the majority of those articles do little more than mention ColdFusion or CF Functionality, or simply describe CF to non-ColdFusion developers. That's not to say that some of them aren't useful, but if you honestly believe tey are even comparable to the quality of CFDJ articles, you obviously haven't ever read the magazine. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:39 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay http://www.google.com/search?num=100hl=enlr=lang_enie=UTF-8oe=UTF -8safe=offas_qdr=allq=+coldfusion+OR+cfml+site%3Abuilder.com.combtnG =Google+Search Looks like a lot to me. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 1:31 PM, Angel Stewart wrote: Odd that you should mention them. As in their web development section Coldfusion isn't listed as one of their supported scripting languages. They have listed ASP,PHP,_javascript_ and others, but not CFML. I've found one article on the CFLOGIN tag under the Architect heading. What area of Builder.com has quite a bit of CFML related content? -Gel -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.544 / Virus Database: 338 - Release Date: 11/25/2003 [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Where did you get this fact that Builder is not a publication. Are you suggesting that Internet sites can't be publications? What is the difference between an online magazine and offline one? CFDJ makes content available online in addition to print. Does that make it less of a publication? I don't see any facts in your statement at all. What I do see is bias towards to the online publication industry. And it is an industry, that is growing, which the offline publishing industry certainly can't say. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: first of all, Fusebox and Mach II are not CFML - they're frameworks that are written in CFML. In the interest of conserving bandwidth, ignore that I said that - I don't feel like getting into (nor will I) a discussion about whether or not a forum that talks primaily about FB and MACH II is a CFML forum or not. What I welcome dialog about is the fact that builder.com is not a publication. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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the majority of those articles do little more than mention ColdFusion or CF Functionality, or simply describe CF to non-ColdFusion developers. That's not to say that some of them aren't useful, but if you honestly believe tey are even comparable to the quality of CFDJ articles, you obviously haven't ever read the magazine. I never made a quality judgment in regard to either CFDJ or Builder. I am simply suggested that other publications such as Builder have better reputations, higher readership, and actually pay for content. If I was a CFML author I would certainly spend my time working with those types of publications. Actually, that statement is a little silly. I am a CFML author and have written for Builder, DevX, Macromedia, Evolt, etc. I hope that you find the quality of my CFML articles up to the quality standards that you feel CFDJ has. Further, I hope that other authors will consider writing for these online publications since that will only increase their quality and more importantly get CFML in front of a whole new set of eyes. CFDJ certainly won't be exposing the non-CF crowd to CFML. Although, MXDJ has a chance in that regard. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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we were comparing CFDJ to other publications... things in print... you know, paper.There was no discussion of a comparison between the content in CFDJ and online resources before your post, nor should there be one now.Hell, if you want to compare the content in CFDJ or any other CFML reference to the content in one outstanding resource, why would it be builder.com I'd say that builder.com doesn't even compare with macromedia.com's online documentation, devnet, etc.I think the point was that CFDJ was being compared with books and periodicals in print.Some people stated that they didn't think that it was worth it's price for a year's subscription compared to the price of some of the books that are out there.I'm not sure what that has to do with websites?There are a lot of great resources out there. I don't think CFDJ is the best CFML resource in the world, but I do personally think that what you get for the cost of receiving the magazine for a year as opposed to one or two of the books on the market is much more worth the money.That's just me... and that's what (I thought) we were debating.Anyway - this is begining to sound like a thread that belongs on the CF Community list. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Where did you get this fact that Builder is not a publication. Are you suggesting that Internet sites can't be publications? What is the difference between an online magazine and offline one? CFDJ makes content available online in addition to print. Does that make it less of a publication? I don't see any facts in your statement at all. What I do see is bias towards to the online publication industry. And it is an industry, that is growing, which the offline publishing industry certainly can't say. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: first of all, Fusebox and Mach II are not CFML - they're frameworks that are written in CFML.In the interest of conserving bandwidth, ignore that I said that - I don't feel like getting into (nor will I) a discussion about whether or not a forum that talks primaily about FB and MACH II is a CFML forum or not.What I welcome dialog about is the fact that builder.com is not a publication. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I posted a link - why don't you write an article?Personally, I'd love to see one from you. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay the majority of those articles do little more than mention ColdFusion or CF Functionality, or simply describe CF to non-ColdFusion developers. That's not to say that some of them aren't useful, but if you honestly believe tey are even comparable to the quality of CFDJ articles, you obviously haven't ever read the magazine. I never made a quality judgment in regard to either CFDJ or Builder. I am simply suggested that other publications such as Builder have better reputations, higher readership, and actually pay for content. If I was a CFML author I would certainly spend my time working with those types of publications. Actually, that statement is a little silly. I am a CFML author and have written for Builder, DevX, Macromedia, Evolt, etc. I hope that you find the quality of my CFML articles up to the quality standards that you feel CFDJ has. Further, I hope that other authors will consider writing for these online publications since that will only increase their quality and more importantly get CFML in front of a whole new set of eyes. CFDJ certainly won't be exposing the non-CF crowd to CFML. Although, MXDJ has a chance in that regard. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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cf_sarcasm sure am glad this CFDJ thread is overshadowing the technical issues today...it's very important you know /cf_sarcasm Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out.I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linuxany insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I posted a link - why don't you write an article?Personally, I'd love to see one from you. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay the majority of those articles do little more than mention ColdFusion or CF Functionality, or simply describe CF to non-ColdFusion developers. That's not to say that some of them aren't useful, but if you honestly believe tey are even comparable to the quality of CFDJ articles, you obviously haven't ever read the magazine. I never made a quality judgment in regard to either CFDJ or Builder. I am simply suggested that other publications such as Builder have better reputations, higher readership, and actually pay for content. If I was a CFML author I would certainly spend my time working with those types of publications. Actually, that statement is a little silly. I am a CFML author and have written for Builder, DevX, Macromedia, Evolt, etc. I hope that you find the quality of my CFML articles up to the quality standards that you feel CFDJ has. Further, I hope that other authors will consider writing for these online publications since that will only increase their quality and more importantly get CFML in front of a whole new set of eyes. CFDJ certainly won't be exposing the non-CF crowd to CFML. Although, MXDJ has a chance in that regard. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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by the way Matt - I hope you know I'm not trying to give you a hard time - just wanted to make it clear that we were talking about value for the dollar - specifically comparing CFDJ to it's thicker skinned competitors (books).I don't disagree with your opinions about online publishing. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay we were comparing CFDJ to other publications... things in print... you know, paper.There was no discussion of a comparison between the content in CFDJ and online resources before your post, nor should there be one now.Hell, if you want to compare the content in CFDJ or any other CFML reference to the content in one outstanding resource, why would it be builder.com I'd say that builder.com doesn't even compare with macromedia.com's online documentation, devnet, etc.I think the point was that CFDJ was being compared with books and periodicals in print.Some people stated that they didn't think that it was worth it's price for a year's subscription compared to the price of some of the books that are out there.I'm not sure what that has to do with websites?There are a lot of great resources out there. I don't think CFDJ is the best CFML resource in the world, but I do personally think that what you get for the cost of receiving the magazine for a year as opposed to one or two of the books on the market is much more worth the money.That's just me... and that's what (I thought) we were debating.Anyway - this is begining to sound like a thread that belongs on the CF Community list. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Where did you get this fact that Builder is not a publication. Are you suggesting that Internet sites can't be publications? What is the difference between an online magazine and offline one? CFDJ makes content available online in addition to print. Does that make it less of a publication? I don't see any facts in your statement at all. What I do see is bias towards to the online publication industry. And it is an industry, that is growing, which the offline publishing industry certainly can't say. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: first of all, Fusebox and Mach II are not CFML - they're frameworks that are written in CFML.In the interest of conserving bandwidth, ignore that I said that - I don't feel like getting into (nor will I) a discussion about whether or not a forum that talks primaily about FB and MACH II is a CFML forum or not.What I welcome dialog about is the fact that builder.com is not a publication. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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sorry, I haven't used iText, but if anyone wants to submit an article proposal - go for it. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay cf_sarcasm sure am glad this CFDJ thread is overshadowing the technical issues today...it's very important you know /cf_sarcasm Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out.I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linuxany insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I posted a link - why don't you write an article?Personally, I'd love to see one from you. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay the majority of those articles do little more than mention ColdFusion or CF Functionality, or simply describe CF to non-ColdFusion developers. That's not to say that some of them aren't useful, but if you honestly believe tey are even comparable to the quality of CFDJ articles, you obviously haven't ever read the magazine. I never made a quality judgment in regard to either CFDJ or Builder. I am simply suggested that other publications such as Builder have better reputations, higher readership, and actually pay for content. If I was a CFML author I would certainly spend my time working with those types of publications. Actually, that statement is a little silly. I am a CFML author and have written for Builder, DevX, Macromedia, Evolt, etc. I hope that you find the quality of my CFML articles up to the quality standards that you feel CFDJ has. Further, I hope that other authors will consider writing for these online publications since that will only increase their quality and more importantly get CFML in front of a whole new set of eyes. CFDJ certainly won't be exposing the non-CF crowd to CFML. Although, MXDJ has a chance in that regard. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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LOL...nice ;-) Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:10 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay sorry, I haven't used iText, but if anyone wants to submit an article proposal - go for it. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay cf_sarcasm sure am glad this CFDJ thread is overshadowing the technical issues today...it's very important you know /cf_sarcasm Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out.I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linuxany insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I posted a link - why don't you write an article?Personally, I'd love to see one from you. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay the majority of those articles do little more than mention ColdFusion or CF Functionality, or simply describe CF to non-ColdFusion developers. That's not to say that some of them aren't useful, but if you honestly believe tey are even comparable to the quality of CFDJ articles, you obviously haven't ever read the magazine. I never made a quality judgment in regard to either CFDJ or Builder. I am simply suggested that other publications such as Builder have better reputations, higher readership, and actually pay for content. If I was a CFML author I would certainly spend my time working with those types of publications. Actually, that statement is a little silly. I am a CFML author and have written for Builder, DevX, Macromedia, Evolt, etc. I hope that you find the quality of my CFML articles up to the quality standards that you feel CFDJ has. Further, I hope that other authors will consider writing for these online publications since that will only increase their quality and more importantly get CFML in front of a whole new set of eyes. CFDJ certainly won't be exposing the non-CF crowd to CFML. Although, MXDJ has a chance in that regard. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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BTW this may not be iText specific. I'm gettng a 500 internal server error truncated class file when trying to call any of the classes in the libraryno idea what might be causing it Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:10 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay sorry, I haven't used iText, but if anyone wants to submit an article proposal - go for it. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:50 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay cf_sarcasm sure am glad this CFDJ thread is overshadowing the technical issues today...it's very important you know /cf_sarcasm Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out.I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linuxany insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:42 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I posted a link - why don't you write an article?Personally, I'd love to see one from you. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:37 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay the majority of those articles do little more than mention ColdFusion or CF Functionality, or simply describe CF to non-ColdFusion developers. That's not to say that some of them aren't useful, but if you honestly believe tey are even comparable to the quality of CFDJ articles, you obviously haven't ever read the magazine. I never made a quality judgment in regard to either CFDJ or Builder. I am simply suggested that other publications such as Builder have better reputations, higher readership, and actually pay for content. If I was a CFML author I would certainly spend my time working with those types of publications. Actually, that statement is a little silly. I am a CFML author and have written for Builder, DevX, Macromedia, Evolt, etc. I hope that you find the quality of my CFML articles up to the quality standards that you feel CFDJ has. Further, I hope that other authors will consider writing for these online publications since that will only increase their quality and more importantly get CFML in front of a whole new set of eyes. CFDJ certainly won't be exposing the non-CF crowd to CFML. Although, MXDJ has a chance in that regard. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I'm gettng a 500 internal server error truncated class file when trying to call any of the classes in the libraryno idea what might be causing it have you tested the integrity of that jar? does that the exact same file work under windows? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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Paul, The jar works fine on Windows, but on Linux I couldn't get the classes in the jar to be found (no matter where I put the jar file and adjusted the jvm.config file to point at the jar file and rebooted).So on Linux I had to unpack the classes in the jar file to a directory and make a new classpath to point at that directory.That at least allowed the classes to be found, but caused this new issue. As you can probably tell I'm a total Java newbie, so I have no idea how to check the integrity ofa jar file (or if unpacking it could have messed things up). Apparently others (or at least Barney B.) have had issues with CFMX recognizing jar files (thus the workaround of unpacking).Barney said he had talked with someone at MM that had a way of getting the jar files recognized and would forward me the mail...but I'm still waiting on that. So if you can solve any of the problems above, I'm all ears ;-) TIA Cheers Bryan Stevenson B.Comm. VP Director of E-Commerce Development Electric Edge Systems Group Inc. t. 250.920.8830 e. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Macromedia Associate Partner www.macromedia.com - Vancouver Island ColdFusion Users Group Founder Director www.cfug-vancouverisland.com - Original Message - From: Paul Hastings To: CF-Talk Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 5:07 PM Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I'm gettng a 500 internal server error truncated class file when trying to call any of the classes in the libraryno idea what might be causing it have you tested the integrity of that jar? does that the exact same file work under windows? [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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You might have missed an email or something. I wasn't comparing the content at all. I was disagreeing with you suggesting that someone should write for CFDJ. See my emails for why I believe writing CFML content for an online publication would be better. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 6:41 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: we were comparing CFDJ to other publications... things in print... you know, paper. There was no discussion of a comparison between the content in CFDJ and online resources before your post, nor should there be one now. Hell, if you want to compare the content in CFDJ or any other CFML reference to the content in one outstanding resource, why would it be builder.com I'd say that builder.com doesn't even compare with macromedia.com's online documentation, devnet, etc. I think the point was that CFDJ was being compared with books and periodicals in print. Some people stated that they didn't think that it was worth it's price for a year's subscription compared to the price of some of the books that are out there. I'm not sure what that has to do with websites? There are a lot of great resources out there. I don't think CFDJ is the best CFML resource in the world, but I do personally think that what you get for the cost of receiving the magazine for a year as opposed to one or two of the books on the market is much more worth the money. That's just me... and that's what (I thought) we were debating. Anyway - this is begining to sound like a thread that belongs on the CF Community list. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Where did you get this fact that Builder is not a publication. Are you suggesting that Internet sites can't be publications? What is the difference between an online magazine and offline one? CFDJ makes content available online in addition to print. Does that make it less of a publication? I don't see any facts in your statement at all. What I do see is bias towards to the online publication industry. And it is an industry, that is growing, which the offline publishing industry certainly can't say. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: first of all, Fusebox and Mach II are not CFML - they're frameworks that are written in CFML. In the interest of conserving bandwidth, ignore that I said that - I don't feel like getting into (nor will I) a discussion about whether or not a forum that talks primaily about FB and MACH II is a CFML forum or not. What I welcome dialog about is the fact that builder.com is not a publication. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
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I posted a link - why don't you write an article? Personally, I'd love to see one from you. When Sys-con starts compensating authors for content and is able to actually find a significant number of real subscribers instead of lying about their readership just to support ad sales then I might be interested. In the mean time, I will continue to write for reputable publishers. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out. I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linux any insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) The errors you are getting can only come from malformed class files. I suggest you retry your download and/or get support for the author(s). Be aware that there are only solutions besides iText for PDF generation. Additionally, there are resources --such as myself-- that are available on a contract basis to take care of these sorts of things for you. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
And just so you know, I personally don't think the CFML books on the market are very good and I am even a contributing author to one. Of course my chapter rocks! ;) -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 6:49 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: by the way Matt - I hope you know I'm not trying to give you a hard time - just wanted to make it clear that we were talking about value for the dollar - specifically comparing CFDJ to it's thicker skinned competitors (books). I don't disagree with your opinions about online publishing. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Simon Horwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:41 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay we were comparing CFDJ to other publications... things in print... you know, paper. There was no discussion of a comparison between the content in CFDJ and online resources before your post, nor should there be one now. Hell, if you want to compare the content in CFDJ or any other CFML reference to the content in one outstanding resource, why would it be builder.com I'd say that builder.com doesn't even compare with macromedia.com's online documentation, devnet, etc. I think the point was that CFDJ was being compared with books and periodicals in print. Some people stated that they didn't think that it was worth it's price for a year's subscription compared to the price of some of the books that are out there. I'm not sure what that has to do with websites? There are a lot of great resources out there. I don't think CFDJ is the best CFML resource in the world, but I do personally think that what you get for the cost of receiving the magazine for a year as opposed to one or two of the books on the market is much more worth the money. That's just me... and that's what (I thought) we were debating. Anyway - this is begining to sound like a thread that belongs on the CF Community list. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 23:29 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Where did you get this fact that Builder is not a publication. Are you suggesting that Internet sites can't be publications? What is the difference between an online magazine and offline one? CFDJ makes content available online in addition to print. Does that make it less of a publication? I don't see any facts in your statement at all. What I do see is bias towards to the online publication industry. And it is an industry, that is growing, which the offline publishing industry certainly can't say. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 5:30 PM, Simon Horwith wrote: first of all, Fusebox and Mach II are not CFML - they're frameworks that are written in CFML. In the interest of conserving bandwidth, ignore that I said that - I don't feel like getting into (nor will I) a discussion about whether or not a forum that talks primaily about FB and MACH II is a CFML forum or not. What I welcome dialog about is the fact that builder.com is not a publication. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2004 18:19 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay Got any examples? :O) Of publications? Builder.com will pay for content and they have published quite a bit of CFML related content. In fact, I have even seen articles related to Fusebox and Mach-II. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: iText (was Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay)
Oh yeah, possibly you were uploading the JAR/class files via FTP and didn't transfer them as binary if they work on Windows and not on Linux. Of course, if you are using FTP; stop right now and move over to SCP. You life will be easier and your machines will be more secure. -Matt On Jan 8, 2004, at 9:17 PM, Matt Liotta wrote: Why don't you immensely bright opinionated people help us out. I've got a hell of a problem with trying to get the iText library working on Linux with CFMX Standardplease see Re: iText.jar/CFMX 6.1 Std/Linux any insight would be greatly appreciated...and hey...mabye you could all write an article about it when you're done ;-) The errors you are getting can only come from malformed class files. I suggest you retry your download and/or get support for the author(s). Be aware that there are only solutions besides iText for PDF generation. Additionally, there are resources --such as myself-- that are available on a contract basis to take care of these sorts of things for you. -Matt [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get. I know many people who don't care, because their company pays for it.i'm not in that position, unfortunately. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: SOT: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I got an email from sys-con today, as probably a lot of folks here did.Did the CFDJ subscription reach strike anyone else as surprising? ColdFusion Developer's Journal:3,000 copies Bummer.Good luck to 'em, though. -- --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
I didn't get the email, but for what it's worth I think CFDJ is terrific for what you get - in fact it's a better buy for your money than many of the books in some ways.It costs a little more than most of the books on the market, but the topics vary, there's focus on current news and community activity, the material is applicable to the newest products (as opposed to being outdated within 6 months like so many of the books are), etc. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 22:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get. I know many people who don't care, because their company pays for it.i'm not in that position, unfortunately. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: SOT: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I got an email from sys-con today, as probably a lot of folks here did. Did the CFDJ subscription reach strike anyone else as surprising? ColdFusion Developer's Journal:3,000 copies Bummer.Good luck to 'em, though. -- --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay
Simon, With all due respect to both you and your valuable contributions, I have to say that I entirely disagree. I used to have a subscription to CFDJ. But for $49 USD/year, it's absolute bottom of the barrel. Your monthly column contribution is useful (along with your papers on www.how2cf.com/), and Brendan O'Hara's Design Patterns series was invaluable (at least, to me). But the magazine overall really is a joke for what you get. You get articles that just barely touch on what I really care about (I want useful topics with meaty code samples as opposed to hello world theoretical statements and the aggravating poorly written code snippets), and the price of the subscription is almost twice what Time magazine costs me (and, oh by the way, Time is a *weekly* publication with a helluva lot more relevant information. The last issue of CFDJ was 52 pages. Of the 52, I think *maybe* half actually had article content. The rest was advertisements and promos that I could care less about. As for relevancy, by the time the monthly issue comes out, most hot topics are outdated, such as hotfix announcements, etc. Honestly, between the numerous blogs at fullasagoog.com, and CF-Talk, CFCDev, and some other mailing lists, CFDJ is a complete rip-off. I like to buy virtually everything associated with CF (books, magazines, training, etc.). But I have to say that, of all the resources out there for ColdFusion, CFDJ is absolutely the last resource I would refer to if I ever needed advice or direction on a particular issue. And don't get me started on their website... Please don't take this as a personal attack, as I have great respect for everything you contribute to the CF community. But if there are people out there wondering if it's worth taking the risk of subscribing to CFDJ, especially when there aren't corporate pocketbooks to pick up the bill, I think my opinion is pretty clear. Regards, Dave. - Original Message - From: Simon Horwith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 06:06 PM Subject: RE: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I didn't get the email, but for what it's worth I think CFDJ is terrific for what you get - in fact it's a better buy for your money than many of the books in some ways.It costs a little more than most of the books on the market, but the topics vary, there's focus on current news and community activity, the material is applicable to the newest products (as opposed to being outdated within 6 months like so many of the books are), etc. ~Simon Simon Horwith CTO, Etrilogy Ltd. Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Instructor Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer Certified Flash MX Developer CFDJList - List Administrator http://www.how2cf.com/ -Original Message- From: Charlie Griefer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 January 2004 22:51 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay not a bad publication...but way too expensive for whatcha get. I know many people who don't care, because their company pays for it. i'm not in that position, unfortunately. - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson To: CF-Talk Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 3:29 PM Subject: SOT: CFDJ isn't exactly kicking bootay I got an email from sys-con today, as probably a lot of folks here did. Did the CFDJ subscription reach strike anyone else as surprising? ColdFusion Developer's Journal:3,000 copies Bummer.Good luck to 'em, though. -- --- Matt Robertson,[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com --- -- [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
RE: CFDJ Readers Choice Awards
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RE: CFDJ Readers Choice Awards
isnt that a surprise?.h -Original Message- From: Ken Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 October 2002 11:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: CFDJ Readers Choice Awards And, amazingly, the leading book seems to be one that isn't even published yet. Ken ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: CFDJ Readers Choice Awards
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Re: CFDJ subscription
Does anybody here know where I can subscribe to the CFDJ online. I tried this link: http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/subscribe/SubscribeForm.cfm but it's giving me a 404 error. Anybody know where I can subscribe? Thanks. To be perfectly honest with you, I think that their site is one of the worst sites I have ever seen. For what subscribers pay annually just to CFDJ, let alone their other publications, you would figure that they would put something a big more user-friendly and less ad-intensive. But that doesn't answer your question, I know. Sorry, just had to vent on that one. My suggestion would be to go to your nearest bookstore (i.e., Barnes and Noble) and look for a subscription insert in one of their issues. My boss subscribed to it for our department a few months back, and all we got were timeouts and 404 errors. So I just went down to BN and grabbed an insert. Snail mail still has its benefits!! Regards, Dave. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFDJ subscription
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RE: CFDJ subscription
No kidding. Slow, too many ads, broken functionality. Kinda like hiring a painter whose house is chipping and cracking... --- Billy Cravens -Original Message- From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2002 10:14 AM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ subscription Does anybody here know where I can subscribe to the CFDJ online. I tried this link: http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/subscribe/SubscribeForm.cfm but it's giving me a 404 error. Anybody know where I can subscribe? Thanks. To be perfectly honest with you, I think that their site is one of the worst sites I have ever seen. For what subscribers pay annually just to CFDJ, let alone their other publications, you would figure that they would put something a big more user-friendly and less ad-intensive. But that doesn't answer your question, I know. Sorry, just had to vent on that one. My suggestion would be to go to your nearest bookstore (i.e., Barnes and Noble) and look for a subscription insert in one of their issues. My boss subscribed to it for our department a few months back, and all we got were timeouts and 404 errors. So I just went down to BN and grabbed an insert. Snail mail still has its benefits!! Regards, Dave. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com __ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFDJ Awards are out
I see CFDJ has published this year's Reader's Choice awards, and the winners look to be a whole bunch of CF-Talk subscribers. The URL to the list of winners is http://www.sys-con.com/coldfusion/article.cfm?id=418 __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFDJ Awards are out
I am very surprised that ColdFusion Server5 was voted the best web development tool. Talk about a biased audience :) -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFDJ Awards are out I see CFDJ has published this year's Reader's Choice awards, and the winners look to be a whole bunch of CF-Talk subscribers. One heck of a talent pool you have created for us all here, Michael. Thx again. Congrats to everyone involved! --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- __ Get Your Own Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionb FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFDJ Awards are out
I am very surprised that ColdFusion Server5 was voted the best... Does CFTREE work? If it does, please, let me know. laszlo Kwang Suh wrote: I am very surprised that ColdFusion Server5 was voted the best web development tool. Talk about a biased audience :) -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFDJ Awards are out I see CFDJ has published this year's Reader's Choice awards, and the winners look to be a whole bunch of CF-Talk subscribers. One heck of a talent pool you have created for us all here, Michael. Thx again. Congrats to everyone involved! --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
RE: CFDJ Awards are out
Let you know and you'll vote for it? :-) J. John Wilker Web Applications Consultant, and Author Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG. www.red-omega.com more people are killed by donkeys than by airplane crashes each year -Original Message- From: laszlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ Awards are out I am very surprised that ColdFusion Server5 was voted the best... Does CFTREE work? If it does, please, let me know. laszlo Kwang Suh wrote: I am very surprised that ColdFusion Server5 was voted the best web development tool. Talk about a biased audience :) -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFDJ Awards are out I see CFDJ has published this year's Reader's Choice awards, and the winners look to be a whole bunch of CF-Talk subscribers. One heck of a talent pool you have created for us all here, Michael. Thx again. Congrats to everyone involved! --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- __ Dedicated Windows 2000 Server PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusiona FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFDJ Awards are out
John, It's a deal! laszlo John Wilker wrote: Let you know and you'll vote for it? :-) J. John Wilker Web Applications Consultant, and Author Macromedia Certified ColdFusion Developer President/Founder, Inland Empire CFUG. www.red-omega.com more people are killed by donkeys than by airplane crashes each year -Original Message- From: laszlo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:05 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: CFDJ Awards are out I am very surprised that ColdFusion Server5 was voted the best... Does CFTREE work? If it does, please, let me know. laszlo Kwang Suh wrote: I am very surprised that ColdFusion Server5 was voted the best web development tool. Talk about a biased audience :) -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 5:57 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: CFDJ Awards are out I see CFDJ has published this year's Reader's Choice awards, and the winners look to be a whole bunch of CF-Talk subscribers. One heck of a talent pool you have created for us all here, Michael. Thx again. Congrats to everyone involved! --- Matt Robertson[EMAIL PROTECTED] MSB Designs, Inc., www.mysecretbase.com --- __ Why Share? Dedicated Win 2000 Server · PIII 800 / 256 MB RAM / 40 GB HD / 20 GB MO/XFER Instant Activation · $99/Month · Free Setup http://www.pennyhost.com/redirect.cfm?adcode=coldfusionc FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
Re: CFDJ - anyone else had problems?
When you subscribed, did they send you previous back-issues? I subscribed in October, and they sent me all of 1999's issues, presumably to ensure that all subscribers renew in January. Of course, I never got a renewal notice. I got two issues and never got another one (though I still get the e-mail telling me about the PDF version of the new issue). I tried calling them to see why I stopped getting it, but they couldn't find me in the database. I would need my mailing label (but since I moved around New Year's, i haven't been able to find any issues). A colleague of mine has stopped getting his, as well, although he did renew. (but he keeps get Java DJ, which he doesn't want). Basically, I've been incredibly un-impressed with sys-con as a company. Scott Kimberly Mayhall [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 05/02/2000 09:15:05 AM I've had a heck of time dealing with syscon the publishers of this magazineafter only receiving the magazine for 3 months, they began sending me notices that my subscription was about to expire (although we had paid for year). I repeatedly emailed them, called them, and have done so for the last three months - all with no response whatsoever. Have any of you dealt with this issue, successfully or unsuccessfully? -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CFDJ - anyone else had problems?
At 10:07 AM 5/2/00 -0700, you wrote: When you subscribed, did they send you previous back-issues? I subscribed in October, and they sent me all of 1999's issues, presumably to ensure that all subscribers renew in January. I have a problem with that method. Of course, I never got a renewal notice. I got two issues and never got another one (though I still get the e-mail telling me about the PDF version of the new issue). I tried calling them to see why I stopped getting it, but they couldn't find me in the database. I would need my mailing label (but since I moved around New Year's, i haven't been able to find any issues). We moved sometime about the middle of February and we haven't received any copies since, although we have received XML developers Journal since then and we were receiving three copies of CFDJ before we moved. I haven't even managed to find a copy of the March issue. I will be particularly unhappy if we find out that we need to renew and they renewed us by giving us the copies that I have already gone to the store and purchased. I thought that our problem might have been with our move, even though all of our other magazines have been forwarding correctly. We assumed that might be the problem because we never received a renew notice. Maybe our assumption was wrong. A colleague of mine has stopped getting his, as well, although he did renew. (but he keeps get Java DJ, which he doesn't want). If they sent that to us as well as what we ordered, I certainly wouldn't complain. I'd just stockpile them incase I ever need them. As it turns out, we have a client who insists on using Intershop Enfinity and we may have to start using Java / JSP to enable the site to do some things that Enfinity isn't set up to handle. It certainly wouldn't hurt to have that kind of stuff available even though we didn't expect to need it three months ago. -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
Re: CFDJ - anyone else had problems?
As long as we're all dumping on CFDJ (and appropriately so, it seems), would someone post a list of additional magazines/publications that they would recommend.. Brian L. Wolfsohnhttp://www.cus.com CUS Business Systems Ft.Lauderdale,FL Software for Auctioneers (954) 565-5600 Email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk To Unsubscribe visit http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=listsbody=lists/cf_talk or send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
