RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-22 Thread owner
there isn't a centralized way of doing so without using a dns server
that I am aware of.  I just use a local DNS server.  Then you set up
your dev machine to use the local dns as a primary dns and the real dns
as a secondary dns.

Eric
  Original Message 
 Subject: RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis
 From: Adrian Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Mon, August 20, 2007 11:12 pm
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com

 On my machine it's in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc.

 And talking of the hosts file. Does anyone have any ideas about setting up a
 hosts file like system for a LAN without running a DNS server?

 I'd like a centralised way of defining IP/address mappings that's as simple
 as the hosts file.

 This will be for a handful of windows machines.

 Cheers.

 Adrian

 -Original Message-
 From: Matthew Smith
 Sent: 21 August 2007 05:16
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis


 Where is etc/hosts?  Thanks for the help.

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes
 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

 Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
 the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.

 On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past, I
 used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring it
 to use a different folder for it's root.
 
  This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I am
 responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in as
 few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for each
 one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ shows the
 proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the current
 site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for each site?
 Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, would I have
 to manually apply coldfusion to each site?
 
  I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be
 appreciated.  Thanks!


 

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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-22 Thread Larry Wald
There is a tool called easyIIS that will enabel you to host multiple websites 
on a Windows XP machine

 Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
 the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.
 
 On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past, 
 I used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring 
 it to use a different folder for it's root.
 
  This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I 
 am responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in 
 as few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for 
 each one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ 
 shows the proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the 
 current site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for 
 each site?  Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, 
 would I have to manually apply coldfusion to each site?
 
  I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be 
 appreciated.  Thanks!
 
 
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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-22 Thread Larry Wald
There is a tool called EasIIS that will allow you to host multipe websites on 
an XP box

 Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
 the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.
 
 On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past, 
 I used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring 
 it to use a different folder for it's root.
 
  This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I 
 am responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in 
 as few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for 
 each one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ 
 shows the proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the 
 current site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for 
 each site?  Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, 
 would I have to manually apply coldfusion to each site?
 
  I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be 
 appreciated.  Thanks!
 
 
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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread James Holmes
Assuming you are on windows (a safe bet if you're using IIS) it's
typically in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.

On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where is etc/hosts?  Thanks for the help.

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

 Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
 the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.

 On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past, I
 used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring it
 to use a different folder for it's root.
 
  This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I am
 responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in as
 few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for each
 one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ shows the
 proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the current
 site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for each site?
 Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, would I have
 to manually apply coldfusion to each site?
 
  I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be
 appreciated.  Thanks!


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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Adrian Lynch
On my machine it's in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc.

And talking of the hosts file. Does anyone have any ideas about setting up a
hosts file like system for a LAN without running a DNS server?

I'd like a centralised way of defining IP/address mappings that's as simple
as the hosts file.

This will be for a handful of windows machines.

Cheers.

Adrian

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Smith
Sent: 21 August 2007 05:16
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis


Where is etc/hosts?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.

On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past, I
used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring it
to use a different folder for it's root.

 This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I am
responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in as
few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for each
one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ shows the
proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the current
site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for each site?
Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, would I have
to manually apply coldfusion to each site?

 I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks!


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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Watts
 And talking of the hosts file. Does anyone have  any ideas about setting up 
 a hosts file like 
 system for a LAN without running a DNS 
 server?

 I'd like a centralised way of defining IP/address  mappings that's as simple 
 as the hosts file.

Any server that resolves name lookups would be, by definition, a DNS server DNS 
servers can be very easy to run and manage, and many use similar text files for 
configuration.

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Smith
I have modified my host file as follows: 
--

127.0.0.1   localhost
www_redhotkitties_com   localhost/www_redhotkitties_com

--

When I browse to http://www_redhotkitties_com/, I get Internet Explorer
cannot display the webpage.

If I go to http://localhost/www_redhotkitties_com/, I get an error that
it cannot find an included template, which should not be the case.

Do I have something configured wrong?

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:05 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

Assuming you are on windows (a safe bet if you're using IIS) it's
typically in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.

On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Where is etc/hosts?  Thanks for the help.

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:37 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

 Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
 the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.

 On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past,
I
 used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring
it
 to use a different folder for it's root.
 
  This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I
am
 responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in as
 few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for
each
 one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ shows the
 proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the current
 site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for each site?
 Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, would I
have
 to manually apply coldfusion to each site?
 
  I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be
 appreciated.  Thanks!


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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
unless you're using a server version of windows, IIS isn't going to
serve more than 1 site at a time.

BTW,  entries in the hosts file would take on this form:
127.0.0.1localhost
127.0.0.1redhotkitties.com

Then, in IIS you'd set up multiple sites and have them use the host
header to determine which site was being visited.  All of this is moot
though if you don't have a server version of windows



On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have modified my host file as follows:
 --

 127.0.0.1   localhost
 www_redhotkitties_com   localhost/www_redhotkitties_com

 --

 When I browse to http://www_redhotkitties_com/, I get Internet Explorer
 cannot display the webpage.

 If I go to http://localhost/www_redhotkitties_com/, I get an error that
 it cannot find an included template, which should not be the case.

 Do I have something configured wrong?

 -Original Message-
 From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:05 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

 Assuming you are on windows (a safe bet if you're using IIS) it's
 typically in c:\windows\system32\drivers\etc\hosts.

 On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Where is etc/hosts?  Thanks for the help.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:37 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis
 
  Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
  the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.
 
  On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past,
 I
  used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring
 it
  to use a different folder for it's root.
  
   This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I
 am
  responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in as
  few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for
 each
  one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ shows the
  proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the current
  site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for each site?
  Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, would I
 have
  to manually apply coldfusion to each site?
  
   I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be
  appreciated.  Thanks!
 
 
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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Watts
 I have modified my host file as follows: 
 --
 
 127.0.0.1   localhost
 www_redhotkitties_com localhost/www_redhotkitties_com
 
 --
 
 When I browse to http://www_redhotkitties_com/, I get 
 Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage.
 
 If I go to http://localhost/www_redhotkitties_com/, I get an 
 error that it cannot find an included template, which should 
 not be the case.
 
 Do I have something configured wrong?

Yes. First, you should read the examples at the top of your HOSTS file, if
you have any. You might also look for HOSTS.SAM in the same directory for
guidance on how to write entries.

That said, you can only use HOSTS to do what a DNS server would do - map IP
addresses to hostnames. If you want to have multiple names for a single IP
address, however, you can't create aliases like you would in a DNS server;
you simply map the address multiple times:

127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.0.1   www.redhotkitties.com
127.0.0.1   www.somethingelse.com


You can't create mappings to anything other than a hostname, either; there's
nothing that would let you map an IP address to a URL as you're doing with
localhost/www_redhotkitties_com.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Watts
 unless you're using a server version of windows, IIS isn't 
 going to serve more than 1 site at a time.

 unless you're using Vista.

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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Zaphod Beeblebrox
cool!  I had no idea that restriction was lifted for vista.

is there a top limit?

On 8/21/07, Dave Watts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  unless you're using a server version of windows, IIS isn't
  going to serve more than 1 site at a time.

  unless you're using Vista.

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Thanks for the help, Dave.

What I'm trying to do is somehow be able to access different sites
locally.  Right now, I have to delete everything from wwwroot, then copy
over the files of the site I want to work on.  It can be a pain to work
on the different sites.  Also, Dreamweaver complains that the local site
root is the same for different sites.

Is there any way to have the different sites accessible under different
resources using mappings or virtual directories?  Or any other solution
to the problem? 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

 I have modified my host file as follows: 
 --
 
 127.0.0.1   localhost
 www_redhotkitties_com localhost/www_redhotkitties_com
 
 --
 
 When I browse to http://www_redhotkitties_com/, I get 
 Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage.
 
 If I go to http://localhost/www_redhotkitties_com/, I get an 
 error that it cannot find an included template, which should 
 not be the case.
 
 Do I have something configured wrong?

Yes. First, you should read the examples at the top of your HOSTS file,
if
you have any. You might also look for HOSTS.SAM in the same directory
for
guidance on how to write entries.

That said, you can only use HOSTS to do what a DNS server would do - map
IP
addresses to hostnames. If you want to have multiple names for a single
IP
address, however, you can't create aliases like you would in a DNS
server;
you simply map the address multiple times:

127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.0.1   www.redhotkitties.com
127.0.0.1   www.somethingelse.com
.

You can't create mappings to anything other than a hostname, either;
there's
nothing that would let you map an IP address to a URL as you're doing
with
localhost/www_redhotkitties_com.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Watts
 is there a top limit?

Not to my knowledge. I haven't run into one yet.

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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Adrian Lynch wrote:
 On my machine it's in C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc.
 
 And talking of the hosts file. Does anyone have any ideas about setting up a
 hosts file like system for a LAN without running a DNS server?

Find somebody that has run servers for over 24 years and they will be 
able to tell you. (DNS replaced such a system in 1983.)

Jochem

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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Matthew Smith wrote:
 I have modified my host file as follows: 
 --
 
 127.0.0.1   localhost
 www_redhotkitties_com localhost/www_redhotkitties_com

That is not a valid record for a hostfile. A host file performs the 
function of DNS, nothing more, nothing less. You probably want:
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.0.2   www_redhotkitties_com

All 127.0.0.x IP addresses end on the loopback interface so you van use 
them all.

Jochem

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Is there a way to use the differing ip addresses(127.0.0.2) so that IIS
will use a different root directory?

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From: Jochem van Dieten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:57 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

Matthew Smith wrote:
 I have modified my host file as follows: 
 --
 
 127.0.0.1   localhost
 www_redhotkitties_com localhost/www_redhotkitties_com

That is not a valid record for a hostfile. A host file performs the 
function of DNS, nothing more, nothing less. You probably want:
127.0.0.1   localhost
127.0.0.2   www_redhotkitties_com

All 127.0.0.x IP addresses end on the loopback interface so you van use 
them all.

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Watts
 What I'm trying to do is somehow be able to access different 
 sites locally.  Right now, I have to delete everything from 
 wwwroot, then copy over the files of the site I want to work 
 on.  It can be a pain to work on the different sites.  Also, 
 Dreamweaver complains that the local site root is the same 
 for different sites.

If you're using IIS in Windows 2000 Server, Windows Server 2003, or Vista,
you can define multiple virtual web servers. If you're using IIS in Windows
XP, you can't do that, as Zaphod pointed out.

If you need to run multiple virtual web servers in Windows XP, use Apache.
However, if you don't need to actually have multiple sites running
simultaneously, but can simply switch configuration to match the one you're
working on, you can simply configure IIS to point to a different physical
directory. You can do this with the default IIS management console utility,
or with something like this:

http://www.firstserved.net/help/downloads

 Is there any way to have the different sites accessible under 
 different resources using mappings or virtual directories?  

If you're satisfied having each project within a single web server
directory, just create subdirectories in your web root directory, then refer
to each in your URL:

http://localhost/someproject1
http://localhost/someproject2

No need for tinkering with IIS configuration or HOSTS files if you do that.
You could then simply create a Dreamweaver site for each directory. 

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Do I need to uninstall IIS to run apache?

-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 1:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

 What I'm trying to do is somehow be able to access different 
 sites locally.  Right now, I have to delete everything from 
 wwwroot, then copy over the files of the site I want to work 
 on.  It can be a pain to work on the different sites.  Also, 
 Dreamweaver complains that the local site root is the same 
 for different sites.

If you're using IIS in Windows 2000 Server, Windows Server 2003, or
Vista,
you can define multiple virtual web servers. If you're using IIS in
Windows
XP, you can't do that, as Zaphod pointed out.

If you need to run multiple virtual web servers in Windows XP, use
Apache.
However, if you don't need to actually have multiple sites running
simultaneously, but can simply switch configuration to match the one
you're
working on, you can simply configure IIS to point to a different
physical
directory. You can do this with the default IIS management console
utility,
or with something like this:

http://www.firstserved.net/help/downloads

 Is there any way to have the different sites accessible under 
 different resources using mappings or virtual directories?  

If you're satisfied having each project within a single web server
directory, just create subdirectories in your web root directory, then
refer
to each in your URL:

http://localhost/someproject1
http://localhost/someproject2

No need for tinkering with IIS configuration or HOSTS files if you do
that.
You could then simply create a Dreamweaver site for each directory. 

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Watts
 Do I need to uninstall IIS to run apache?

No, but you will want to either configure each web server to listen on
different sockets, or turn IIS off when running Apache (and vice versa).

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Smith
What service do I disable to turn off IIS?

Under Internet Information Services, it only allows a restart.  Under
Computer ManagementServices and ApplicationsServices, I only see IIS
Admin, nothing for IIS itself.

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 Do I need to uninstall IIS to run apache?

No, but you will want to either configure each web server to listen on
different sockets, or turn IIS off when running Apache (and vice versa).

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Dave Watts
 What service do I disable to turn off IIS?

The World Wide Web Publishing service.

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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Thank you for all the help.

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 What service do I disable to turn off IIS?

The World Wide Web Publishing service.

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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Williams
The examples above are instructing you to use host headers so that you 
don't have to use different IPs.  Are you running this in Windows XP or 
a Windows server?  If you can have multiple websites, they can all 
listen to the same IP, so long as the host header (eg something.com, 
something2.com, something3.com), is defined in your hosts file.  If you 
don't have a windows server OS installed, you'd be better off going with 
an Apache solution to run your development on.  If you must use multiple 
IPs, I'm pretty sure you can configure this in Network Connection-Local 
Area Connection-Properties-TCP/IP-Properties-Advanced-IP 
adresses-add and add IPs as needed.

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Matthew Smith wrote:
 Is there a way to use the differing ip addresses(127.0.0.2) so that IIS
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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Smith
Yes, I'm probably going to give Apache to try.  (more questions to
follow, I'm sure) ;)

-Original Message-
From: Matthew Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 4:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

The examples above are instructing you to use host headers so that you 
don't have to use different IPs.  Are you running this in Windows XP or 
a Windows server?  If you can have multiple websites, they can all 
listen to the same IP, so long as the host header (eg something.com, 
something2.com, something3.com), is defined in your hosts file.  If you 
don't have a windows server OS installed, you'd be better off going with

an Apache solution to run your development on.  If you must use multiple

IPs, I'm pretty sure you can configure this in Network Connection-Local

Area Connection-Properties-TCP/IP-Properties-Advanced-IP 
adresses-add and add IPs as needed.

Matthew Williams
Geodesic GraFX
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Matthew Smith wrote:
 Is there a way to use the differing ip addresses(127.0.0.2) so that
IIS
 will use a different root directory?

   




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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-21 Thread Matthew Williams
The easiest solution out of the box for me has been to install 
EasyPHP2.  It will deploy apache 2.2.3, MySQL 4.x, and phpMyAdmin.  The 
only thing left to do is configure apache-cf connector, and setup 
virtual sites.  You need to point the configuration directory option at 
your httpd.conf file, and the server binary at your apache.exe file.  
This should setup the connector for you.  From there, you just need to 
add a virtual host, similar to what follows.  You would use the 
NameVirtualHost param only once.  Oh, and you need to change references 
that state deny from all to allow from all.  Otherwise, you get messages 
about not having permission to view the file.  This isn't the best 
method, but as it's only dev, I'm not concerned about just myself on the 
machine.

NameVirtualHost *:80

#SomeSite
VirtualHost *:80
 DocumentRoot C:\somesite\www
 ServerName loc.somesite.com
 ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ErrorLog C:/EasyPHP2/apache/logs/somesite_error_log
 TransferLog C:/EasyPHP2/apache/logs/somesite_access_log
 Alias /phpmyadmin c:\easyphp2\phpmyadmin
/VirtualHost

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Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-20 Thread James Holmes
Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.

On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past, I used 
 coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring it to use a 
 different folder for it's root.

 This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I am 
 responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in as few 
 steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for each one?  
 How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ shows the proper site? 
  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the current site's folder?  If so, 
 where should I locate the folder for each site?  Do I set up a different site 
 in IIS for each site?  If so, would I have to manually apply coldfusion to 
 each site?

 I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be appreciated.  
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RE: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

2007-08-20 Thread Matthew Smith
Where is etc/hosts?  Thanks for the help.

-Original Message-
From: James Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 10:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: multiple sites with cf 8 and iis

Set up entries in etc/hosts so you don't need to swap anything - make
the IIS sites respond to the relevant host names.

On 8/21/07, Matthew Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just did a clean install of my development machine.  In the past, I
used coldfusion's built in web server, but had a problem configuring it
to use a different folder for it's root.

 This time around I think I'll give IIS a try.  I have five sites I am
responsible for.  I would like to be able to switch between them in as
few steps as possible.  Do I need to create a virtual directory for each
one?  How would I switch between sites for http://localhost/ shows the
proper site?  Or can I just change the mapping for / to the current
site's folder?  If so, where should I locate the folder for each site?
Do I set up a different site in IIS for each site?  If so, would I have
to manually apply coldfusion to each site?

 I'm not really sure what I need to do so any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks!


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RE: Multiple Sites on IIS 5 on XP?

2006-12-05 Thread Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX)
Yes, you cannot create multiple sites in XP.

There are several tools to do this..  Search for tools such as IISAdmin.

HTH






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Sent: 05 December 2006 11:30
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple Sites on IIS 5 on XP?

Hi all,

Is there a way to define multiple websites on Windows XP IIS 5?  
Obviously, on the server edition, one can right click in IIS config  
and create a new website easily, but my dev box is running XP pro and  
doesn't seem to have the functionality.

http://localhost/foo/ is fine, but I want  the site with it's own  
site root -  http://foo/ per example.

I'm getting fed up with having to second guess all the site relative  
links :)

Thanks

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Re: Multiple Sites on IIS 5 on XP?

2006-12-05 Thread Tom King
awesome, that's done the job.
Ta muchly

T

On 5 Dec 2006, at 11:32, Robertson-Ravo, Neil (RX) wrote:

 Yes, you cannot create multiple sites in XP.

 There are several tools to do this..  Search for tools such as  
 IISAdmin.

 HTH






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 From: Tom King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 05 December 2006 11:30
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Multiple Sites on IIS 5 on XP?

 Hi all,

 Is there a way to define multiple websites on Windows XP IIS 5?
 Obviously, on the server edition, one can right click in IIS config
 and create a new website easily, but my dev box is running XP pro and
 doesn't seem to have the functionality.

 http://localhost/foo/ is fine, but I want  the site with it's own
 site root -  http://foo/ per example.

 I'm getting fed up with having to second guess all the site relative
 links :)

 Thanks

 T




 

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Peterson, Andrew S.
Regarding the additional site we created, I might also add that we are
able to ping it successfully.

Sincerely,
 
Andrew
Webmaster
Illinois Office of the Comptroller
IllinoisComptroller.com

-Original Message-
From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

 
Hello,

I've created an additional site in IIS 6 on my development server with a
unique Host Header. So there are currently two sites on that server. Now
I've got my brilliant Network admin trying to that second site to the
DNS. Thus far, he has failed miserably :-). He created a new primary
forward lookup zone. On the new primary zone, he created a host A
record corresponding to the Host Header name, but only the dns server
itself is able to resolve it, and in that case, not to the second site,
but rather the development home page itself.

The bottom line is that he blames me, and I blame him, and we're about
to take it outside, in which case, we'll be looking for a new network
admin (LOL). We would greatly appreciate any ideas on how to resolve
this DNS issue. Thanks!

Sincerely,
 
Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS

Yes, use different host headers instead of ports. 
Use a subdomain off your primary domain for your dev server,

Russ

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From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 November 2005 15:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS

Hi,
 
We have one development server, and multiple production servers. For
each separate server in production, I'm just creating a New Site in IIS
on the development server, each using a different port. Is there a
better way/best practices approach to keeping these servers separate in
the development environment? Thanks in advance.
 
Sincerely,
 
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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Mark A Kruger
Andrew,

Why the new zone?  What we do is take an existing zone and add a new A
record. If the zone is mydomain.com I might have.

clients.mydomain.com
dev.mydomain.com
www.mydomain.com

etc... all of them A records.

-Mark

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From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS



Hello,

I've created an additional site in IIS 6 on my development server with a
unique Host Header. So there are currently two sites on that server. Now
I've got my brilliant Network admin trying to that second site to the
DNS. Thus far, he has failed miserably :-). He created a new primary
forward lookup zone. On the new primary zone, he created a host A
record corresponding to the Host Header name, but only the dns server
itself is able to resolve it, and in that case, not to the second site,
but rather the development home page itself.

The bottom line is that he blames me, and I blame him, and we're about
to take it outside, in which case, we'll be looking for a new network
admin (LOL). We would greatly appreciate any ideas on how to resolve
this DNS issue. Thanks!

Sincerely,

Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS

Yes, use different host headers instead of ports.
Use a subdomain off your primary domain for your dev server,

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 November 2005 15:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS

Hi,

We have one development server, and multiple production servers. For
each separate server in production, I'm just creating a New Site in IIS
on the development server, each using a different port. Is there a
better way/best practices approach to keeping these servers separate in
the development environment? Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

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Re: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Matt Robertson
I'm doing a win2k3 server like this, with a dozen or so host-header'd
domains, right now.  In MS DNS at least, you set up the host entry and
the * entry pointing to the shared IP.

Then in IIS6 you set up the host headers with fully qualified domain,
pointing to port 80.  I like to use two host headers for that:

domain.com
www.domain.com

I use the * host entry to signify 'www and anything else' although I
could just put in 'www' too.  If you want to add a second site, like

service.domain.com

then you add a new host in the existing dns record, pointing
specifically to service in the New Host dialog.  Then point the new
host to the shared IP.  Get yourself back into IIS and make up a new
web site whose only host header is

service.domain.com

And which points to port 80 (or whatever) and thats all there is to it.

To do a totally different domain, such as 'foo.com', you set up a
completely new DNS record, with the host and * entries pointing to the
shared IP.  Do the same as above for IIS host headers and you're done.

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Ken Ketsdever
Hire a Network admin that knows a port from a hole in the ground.

-Original Message-
From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 9:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

 
Hello,

I've created an additional site in IIS 6 on my development server with a
unique Host Header. So there are currently two sites on that server. Now
I've got my brilliant Network admin trying to that second site to the
DNS. Thus far, he has failed miserably :-). He created a new primary
forward lookup zone. On the new primary zone, he created a host A
record corresponding to the Host Header name, but only the dns server
itself is able to resolve it, and in that case, not to the second site,
but rather the development home page itself.

The bottom line is that he blames me, and I blame him, and we're about
to take it outside, in which case, we'll be looking for a new network
admin (LOL). We would greatly appreciate any ideas on how to resolve
this DNS issue. Thanks!

Sincerely,
 
Andrew

-Original Message-
From: Snake [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 11:12 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS

Yes, use different host headers instead of ports. 
Use a subdomain off your primary domain for your dev server,

Russ

-Original Message-
From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 15 November 2005 15:29
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS

Hi,
 
We have one development server, and multiple production servers. For
each separate server in production, I'm just creating a New Site in IIS
on the development server, each using a different port. Is there a
better way/best practices approach to keeping these servers separate in
the development environment? Thanks in advance.
 
Sincerely,
 
Andrew
 








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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Dave Watts
 I've created an additional site in IIS 6 on my development 
 server with a unique Host Header. So there are currently two 
 sites on that server. Now I've got my brilliant Network admin 
 trying to that second site to the DNS. Thus far, he has failed 
 miserably :-). He created a new primary forward lookup zone. 
 On the new primary zone, he created a host A record corresponding
 to the Host Header name, but only the dns server itself is able 
 to resolve it, and in that case, not to the second site, but 
 rather the development home page itself.
 
 The bottom line is that he blames me, and I blame him, and we're
 about to take it outside, in which case, we'll be looking for a 
 new network admin (LOL). We would greatly appreciate any ideas 
 on how to resolve this DNS issue. Thanks!

There's no need to create a new zone. Zones typically correspond to domains
or subdomains. Assuming that both sites on your server use the same IP
address, your network administrator only needs to create a CNAME record
pointing the new host name to the old one. If the sites use different IP
addresses, you need to create a new A record pointing the new host name to
the appropriate IP address.

In any case, your network administrator needs to learn how DNS works, since
it's integral to so many things on a network. Unless you're changing DNS
entries yourself, there's nothing he can really blame you for, except that
you're making him do his job.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:26 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS
 
 Hello,
 
 The bottom line is that he blames me, and I blame him, and we're about
 to take it outside, in which case, we'll be looking for a new network
 admin (LOL). We would greatly appreciate any ideas on how to resolve
 this DNS issue. Thanks!

Well... honestly your network admin should know this stuff.

If you're talking MS DNS CrystalTech has a nice guide for their (amateur)
dedicated server users here:

http://www.webcontrolcenter.com/Knowledge_Base/frmKB.aspx?KBID=564

I was able to set up all my domains and DNS using it.

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Dawson, Michael
There's no need to create a new zone. Zones typically correspond to
domains or subdomains. Assuming that both sites on your server use the
same IP address, your network administrator only needs to create a CNAME
record pointing the new host name to the old one. If the sites use
different IP addresses, you need to create a new A record pointing the
new host name to the appropriate IP address.

I agree completely.  We have a mix of host headers and distinct IPs
here.

M!ke

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Mark A Kruger
Dave,

The CNAME record is used less than the A record because it causes more
traffic - more lookups. You can have multiple A records for the same IP.
Personally, I think it's easier to manage just A records.

-Mark


-Original Message-
From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:19 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS


 I've created an additional site in IIS 6 on my development
 server with a unique Host Header. So there are currently two
 sites on that server. Now I've got my brilliant Network admin
 trying to that second site to the DNS. Thus far, he has failed
 miserably :-). He created a new primary forward lookup zone.
 On the new primary zone, he created a host A record corresponding
 to the Host Header name, but only the dns server itself is able
 to resolve it, and in that case, not to the second site, but
 rather the development home page itself.

 The bottom line is that he blames me, and I blame him, and we're
 about to take it outside, in which case, we'll be looking for a
 new network admin (LOL). We would greatly appreciate any ideas
 on how to resolve this DNS issue. Thanks!

There's no need to create a new zone. Zones typically correspond to domains
or subdomains. Assuming that both sites on your server use the same IP
address, your network administrator only needs to create a CNAME record
pointing the new host name to the old one. If the sites use different IP
addresses, you need to create a new A record pointing the new host name to
the appropriate IP address.

In any case, your network administrator needs to learn how DNS works, since
it's integral to so many things on a network. Unless you're changing DNS
entries yourself, there's nothing he can really blame you for, except that
you're making him do his job.

Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/

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instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Justin D. Scott
CNAME records should only be used when aliasing a host that is not within
the same zone, otherwise, use A records.

-Justin Scott


 -Original Message-
 From: Mark A Kruger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:39 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS
 
 Dave,
 
 The CNAME record is used less than the A record because 
 it causes more
 traffic - more lookups. You can have multiple A records for 
 the same IP.
 Personally, I think it's easier to manage just A records.
 
 -Mark
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 12:19 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS
 
 
  I've created an additional site in IIS 6 on my development
  server with a unique Host Header. So there are currently two
  sites on that server. Now I've got my brilliant Network admin
  trying to that second site to the DNS. Thus far, he has failed
  miserably :-). He created a new primary forward lookup zone.
  On the new primary zone, he created a host A record corresponding
  to the Host Header name, but only the dns server itself is able
  to resolve it, and in that case, not to the second site, but
  rather the development home page itself.
 
  The bottom line is that he blames me, and I blame him, and we're
  about to take it outside, in which case, we'll be looking for a
  new network admin (LOL). We would greatly appreciate any ideas
  on how to resolve this DNS issue. Thanks!
 
 There's no need to create a new zone. Zones typically 
 correspond to domains
 or subdomains. Assuming that both sites on your server use the same IP
 address, your network administrator only needs to create a 
 CNAME record
 pointing the new host name to the old one. If the sites use 
 different IP
 addresses, you need to create a new A record pointing the new 
 host name to
 the appropriate IP address.
 
 In any case, your network administrator needs to learn how 
 DNS works, since
 it's integral to so many things on a network. Unless you're 
 changing DNS
 entries yourself, there's nothing he can really blame you 
 for, except that
 you're making him do his job.
 
 Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
 http://www.figleaf.com/
 
 Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
 instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
 Chicago, Baltimore, Northern Virginia, or on-site at your location.
 Visit http://training.figleaf.com/ for more information!
 
 
 
 
 

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Dave Watts
 CNAME records should only be used when aliasing a host that 
 is not within the same zone, otherwise, use A records.

I'm not a DNS expert, but my understanding is that this is simply incorrect.
There's nothing wrong with using CNAME records to alias hosts within a zone.

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Justin D. Scott
  CNAME records should only be used when aliasing a host
  that is not within the same zone, otherwise, use A
  records.
 
 I'm not a DNS expert, but my understanding is that this
 is simply incorrect.  There's nothing wrong with using
 CNAME records to alias hosts within a zone.

You CAN alias records within the same zone, but it's generally not a good
idea because of the extra DNS lookups required to resolve them.  Just
because you can do a think, does not mean you should.


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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Dave Watts
 The CNAME record is used less than the A record because 
 it causes more traffic - more lookups. You can have multiple 
 A records for the same IP. Personally, I think it's easier 
 to manage just A records.

The performance difference is pretty inconsequential, especially if both
CNAME and A records are within the same zone. But more importantly, this is
specifically what CNAME records are for, and it tells me clearly which name
a PTR record should resolve to - the name specified within the one A record.


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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Andrew Tyrone
 -Original Message-
 From: Justin D. Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 1:46 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS
 
 CNAME records should only be used when aliasing a host that 
 is not within
 the same zone, otherwise, use A records.
 
 -Justin Scott

I don't agree with this because CNAME records pointed to A records make it
easier to change IP addresses for said A records.  One scenario would be 10
A records in a zone file that all go to the same IP Address on a server that
uses host headers.  Changing the IP address would necessitate the change of
all the A records.  If you use one A record, e.g. mydomain.com IN A
192.168.0.10, and 9 CNAMES, e.g. foo.mydomain.com IN CNAME mydomain.com,
etc., you make life a lot easier for yourself or whoever is in charge of the
DNS.

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Justin D. Scott
 I don't agree with this because CNAME records pointed
 to A records make it easier to change IP addresses
 for said A records.  One scenario would be 10 A records

For people manually managing zone files, I suppose this could make life
easier.  I run my own DNS hosting service that uses variables for IP
addresses and generates the zones, so it isn't an issue for me personally.
My reasoning is based on minimizing the number of lookups that need to be
done.  As a rule I try to avoid them within the same zone for that reason.
It's really not a big enough issue to argue about, so to each their own :).

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Dave Watts
 You CAN alias records within the same zone, but it's 
 generally not a good idea because of the extra DNS 
 lookups required to resolve them. Just because you 
 can do a think, does not mean you should.

Again, though, this is what CNAME records are for. The extra DNS lookups do
not cause a significant amount of traffic, in my experience, even with DNS
servers that support high-volume sites. I suspect this may have been more of
an issue in the past than it is now, or maybe for DNS servers that support
even higher numbers of queries it is still true. However, using multiple A
records for a single IP address can introduce other problems, and I prefer
the set of problems you may get by using CNAME records to the set of
problems that you may get by using A records for aliasing.

For example, if you're using the Microsoft DNS server - which, being
integral to AD and Windows Networking, many people are - you can easily
screw up your PTR records, as each time you add an A record it will, by
default, rewrite the PTR record to point to the new host name.

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Mark A Kruger
Dave,

CNAME records make it possible to introduce recursion errors. The extra
lookup is definitely an issue for small data centers trying to maximize
bandwidth and resources. And from a management standpoint it seems easier to
work with 1 less kind of record.

-Mark


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Subject: RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS


 You CAN alias records within the same zone, but it's
 generally not a good idea because of the extra DNS
 lookups required to resolve them. Just because you
 can do a think, does not mean you should.

Again, though, this is what CNAME records are for. The extra DNS lookups do
not cause a significant amount of traffic, in my experience, even with DNS
servers that support high-volume sites. I suspect this may have been more of
an issue in the past than it is now, or maybe for DNS servers that support
even higher numbers of queries it is still true. However, using multiple A
records for a single IP address can introduce other problems, and I prefer
the set of problems you may get by using CNAME records to the set of
problems that you may get by using A records for aliasing.

For example, if you're using the Microsoft DNS server - which, being
integral to AD and Windows Networking, many people are - you can easily
screw up your PTR records, as each time you add an A record it will, by
default, rewrite the PTR record to point to the new host name.

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS - Modifying DNS

2005-11-18 Thread Dave Watts
 CNAME records make it possible to introduce recursion errors.
 The extra lookup is definitely an issue for small data centers 
 trying to maximize bandwidth and resources. And from a management
 standpoint it seems easier to work with 1 less kind of record.

At this point, we're quibbling about something pretty small, but I can only
say that none of these things have been problems for me or my clients, while
I have seen problems using multiple A records pointing to the same IP
address. I don't see how working with one less DNS record type makes any
difference, since you still have to know SOA, MX, etc. My preference for
using CNAME records for aliases is simply that this is what they're intended
for, and as a result they provide (slightly) useful information that
multiple A records don't provide.

And as for the difference in traffic, I don't think there are more requests
and responses when you get back a CNAME that's pointing to an A record - you
simply get both answers in a single response. At least, that's what nslookup
tells me. Here are some sample grabs from nslookup (I changed the names of
the servers to protect the innocent - that's why the length of the first
request is shorter, even though the server name is longer):

 test_cname.figleaf.com.
Server:  ns.figleaf.com
Address:  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx


SendRequest(), len 33
HEADER:
opcode = QUERY, id = 4, rcode = NOERROR
header flags:  query, want recursion
questions = 1,  answers = 0,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0

QUESTIONS:
test_cname.figleaf.com, type = A, class = IN



Got answer (72 bytes):
HEADER:
opcode = QUERY, id = 4, rcode = NOERROR
header flags:  response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion
avail.
questions = 1,  answers = 2,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0

QUESTIONS:
test_cname.figleaf.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
-  test_cname.figleaf.com
type = CNAME, class = IN, dlen = 11
canonical name = test_a.figleaf.com
ttl = 3600 (1 hour)
-  test_a.figleaf.com
type = A, class = IN, dlen = 4
internet address = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
ttl = 3600 (1 hour)


Name:test_a.figleaf.com
Address:  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
Aliases:  test_cname.figleaf.com

 test_a.figleaf.com.
Server:  ns.figleaf.com
Address:  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx


SendRequest(), len 38
HEADER:
opcode = QUERY, id = 5, rcode = NOERROR
header flags:  query, want recursion
questions = 1,  answers = 0,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0

QUESTIONS:
test_a.figleaf.com, type = A, class = IN



Got answer (54 bytes):
HEADER:
opcode = QUERY, id = 5, rcode = NOERROR
header flags:  response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion
avail.
questions = 1,  answers = 1,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0

QUESTIONS:
test_a.figleaf.com, type = A, class = IN
ANSWERS:
-  test_a.figleaf.com
type = A, class = IN, dlen = 4
internet address = xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx
ttl = 3600 (1 hour)


Name:test_a.figleaf.com
Address:  xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx

You notice the difference? Eighteen bytes. That's it. The answer in either
case was small enough to fit within a UDP packet. That's hardly a big amount
of traffic, and you'd be better served in most cases just increasing the TTL
values so your DNS server is queried less frequently - the DNS server above
is an internal server, so it's not a big deal.

I'm not saying you're wrong to recommend using A records instead of CNAME
records, just that we seem to value different results in this case.

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS

2005-11-15 Thread Jim Davis
 -Original Message-
 From: Peterson, Andrew S. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 10:29 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS
 
 Hi,
 
 We have one development server, and multiple production servers. For
 each separate server in production, I'm just creating a New Site in IIS
 on the development server, each using a different port. Is there a
 better way/best practices approach to keeping these servers separate in
 the development environment? Thanks in advance.

Personally I find that port number can be problematic.  There used to be
issues (might still be...) with CFCACHE and similar things and there are
architectural concerns (firewalls for example).

To make a site in IIS (or, really any HTTP server) you defined three
things: IP Address, Hostname and Port.  Each site on a sever has to have a
unique signature of those three values.

My order of preference:

On an internal only network the most natural way to set things up is to
assign a dedicated (internal) IP to each development server.  Using local
certs you can also install SSL on these sites (something hard, if not
impossible with other options).

Next is Hostname.  This is what I use at home.  For example I've got
www.depressedpress.com defined at my production server but
dev.depressedpress.com and test.depressedpress.com defined on my home
server.  These host names use the same IPs and Port but do not conflict as
long as the names are used to access them.

Finally is port, and you know about that.  I don't like it.  ;^)

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS

2005-11-15 Thread Kevin Penny
Host Headers setup through IIS

So you could have beta.xyz.com, dev.xyz.com etc.

?


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Hi,
 
We have one development server, and multiple production servers. For
each separate server in production, I'm just creating a New Site in IIS
on the development server, each using a different port. Is there a
better way/best practices approach to keeping these servers separate in
the development environment? Thanks in advance.
 
Sincerely,
 
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RE: Multiple sites in IIS

2005-11-15 Thread Paul Vernon
 We have one development server, and multiple production 
 servers. For each separate server in production, I'm just 
 creating a New Site in IIS on the development server, each 
 using a different port. Is there a better way/best practices 
 approach to keeping these servers separate in the development 
 environment? Thanks in advance.

Set your host headers in IIS and add the entries into your DNS servers or
hosts files.

But... if you need SSL on more than one site, you will need a different IP
or different port for those particular sites as you can only have one SSL
cert for each IP/port combination. 

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RE: Multiple sites in IIS

2005-11-15 Thread Snake
Yes, use different host headers instead of ports. 
Use a subdomain off your primary domain for your dev server,

Russ

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Sent: 15 November 2005 15:29
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Subject: OT: Multiple sites in IIS

Hi,
 
We have one development server, and multiple production servers. For each
separate server in production, I'm just creating a New Site in IIS on the
development server, each using a different port. Is there a better way/best
practices approach to keeping these servers separate in the development
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RE: Multiple sites using one IP

2004-11-28 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
Check out Host Headers in IIS.

Mike 

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Right now I have a number of CF sites on my WIN2K box that's running CFMX.
Each site currently has it's own IP.  I've heard that some people configure
their servers to use one IP for many websites.  How would I do this?  When I
try to assign an IP address I already have in use with one website to
another website, it automatically stops that second website and won't let
them both run at once.  Thanks.


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RE: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

2004-04-12 Thread nando
I've run across a good way to do this if you happen to be using fusebox (or similar that runs all requests through a single file).

In your index.cfm at root level, check the cgi.server_name using contains

if cgi.server_name contains domain1.com
 cfinclude domain1/corefile.cfm
else if cgi.server_name contains domain2.com
 cfinclude domain2/corefile.cfm

You'll need to tweak all references to images, _javascript_ and css files to account for the extra directory level, but otherwise it works very well. each application can be self-contained and it's completely seemless to your users.

Original Message:
From: Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:58:14 -0400

Pretty much that's you're only option unless your host is willing to set up
multiple virtual servers (most aren't).

 

You probably don't need anything in the root application.cfm - you can do
your redirect using nothing but the CGI variables.The only (minor)
downside is that your URL's will be a little longer since every link will
include the site/directory name.

 

Jim Davis

 

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From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

 

I have a shared hosting account and have two domains pointed at the account.
I want to run both sites independantly... Is it best to use a quick cfif
in the root level index.cfm to push the user to the right site? As long as
the cfapplication tags have unique name attributes the applications should
be kept independent, yes? It would look like this:

ROOT
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE1
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE2
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm

How do you handle this, if you are in a similar situation? These are just
personal sites, nothing of importance really...

Thanks!

Mike

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RE: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

2004-04-12 Thread Jim Davis
You don't even have to tweak your paths if you use only relative paths.

I instantiate a paths.cfc in the application with an AppRootOffset
property (if the site were at /mysite1/ then the AppRootOffset would be
/MySite1) using that and the functions in the CFC you can calculate any
paths you need.Move the site and all you have to do is update the
AppRootOffset.

(Actually I don't even do that - the AppRootOffset is calculated
automatically using the location of the application.cfm which is assumed to
be at the root of the application.)

It works a treat.

Jim Davis

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Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 3:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

I've run across a good way to do this if you happen to be using fusebox (or
similar that runs all requests through a single file).

In your index.cfm at root level, check the cgi.server_name using contains

if cgi.server_name contains domain1.com
cfinclude domain1/corefile.cfm
else if cgi.server_name contains domain2.com
cfinclude domain2/corefile.cfm

You'll need to tweak all references to images, _javascript_ and css files to
account for the extra directory level, but otherwise it works very well.
each application can be self-contained and it's completely seemless to your
users.

Original Message:
From: Jim Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2004 23:58:14 -0400

Pretty much that's you're only option unless your host is willing to set up
multiple virtual servers (most aren't).

 

You probably don't need anything in the root application.cfm - you can do
your redirect using nothing but the CGI variables.The only (minor)
downside is that your URL's will be a little longer since every link will
include the site/directory name.

 

Jim Davis

 

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From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

 

I have a shared hosting account and have two domains pointed at the
account.
I want to run both sites independantly... Is it best to use a quick cfif
in the root level index.cfm to push the user to the right site? As long as
the cfapplication tags have unique name attributes the applications should
be kept independent, yes? It would look like this:

ROOT
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE1
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE2
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm

How do you handle this, if you are in a similar situation? These are just
personal sites, nothing of importance really...

Thanks!

Mike

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Re: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

2004-04-11 Thread Doug White
If your provider is willing, you can set the default page to be different for
each domain.

If not, then your default cfm page should read the http GET and route the
request to the correct domain/page.

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Subject: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

I have a shared hosting account and have two domains pointed at the account.
I want to run both sites independantly... Is it best to use a quick cfif
in the root level index.cfm to push the user to the right site? As long as
the cfapplication tags have unique name attributes the applications should
be kept independent, yes? It would look like this:

ROOT
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE1
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE2
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm

How do you handle this, if you are in a similar situation? These are just
personal sites, nothing of importance really...

Thanks!

Mike
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RE: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

2004-04-11 Thread Jim Davis
Pretty much that's you're only option unless your host is willing to set up
multiple virtual servers (most aren't).

You probably don't need anything in the root application.cfm - you can do
your redirect using nothing but the CGI variables.The only (minor)
downside is that your URL's will be a little longer since every link will
include the site/directory name.

Jim Davis

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From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2004 11:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

I have a shared hosting account and have two domains pointed at the account.
I want to run both sites independantly... Is it best to use a quick cfif
in the root level index.cfm to push the user to the right site? As long as
the cfapplication tags have unique name attributes the applications should
be kept independent, yes? It would look like this:

ROOT
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE1
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm
SITE2
-Application.cfm
-index.cfm

How do you handle this, if you are in a similar situation? These are just
personal sites, nothing of importance really...

Thanks!

Mike

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RE: Multiple Sites / 1 Hosting Account

2004-04-11 Thread Michael T. Tangorre
 You probably don't need anything in the root application.cfm 
 - you can do
 your redirect using nothing but the CGI variables.The only (minor)
 downside is that your URL's will be a little longer since 
 every link will
 include the site/directory name.

I'd need to hit one root level file to check the CGI var, no?

For instance, I type in:

www.site1.com and the root level application.cfm file checks the CGI var and
includes the appropriate file from the sub dir.. Same for www.site2.com

No?

Forgive my ignorance if I am way off base.

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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-30 Thread Raymond Camden
Yea, sorry about that. I replied to you before catching up and seeing that
800 other people had said the same. ;)
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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-29 Thread Paul Kenney
There is an ISAPI filter that allows you to run multiple site sites in IIS
on WinXP Pro.I have used it and it is alright, but its behavior is not
quite like that of IIS on Win2000 Server.Any how, here is a link to the
download site: http://www.hairy-spider.com/multisite.aspx

Paul Kenney
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Subject: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it to serve
mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.

Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve different
domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server or someething like
that?

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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Tony Weeg
can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
pretty standard?

just wondering...thanks!

tony

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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:00 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

 Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it 
 to serve mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.

No, not to my knowledge. If there were, it would probably violate your
software license in any case.

 Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve 
 different domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server 
 or someething like that?

You could just use Apache instead, or you could use the built-in JRun
server
assuming you're using CFMX. Or, you could have multiple names pointed to
your one IIS server, using either a DNS server or your hosts file, and
use
CF to figure out how to redirect requests based on the host name
requested.

I'd generally recommend that you just use Apache, though.

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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Doug White
www.apache.org

There is a version of Apache server that will run on windows, actually much more
popular than IIS

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From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

| can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
| pretty standard?
|
| just wondering...thanks!
|
| tony
|
| tony weeg
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| www.revolutionwebdesign.com
| rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
| 410.334.6331
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:00 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
|
|
|  Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it
|  to serve mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.
|
| No, not to my knowledge. If there were, it would probably violate your
| software license in any case.
|
|  Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve
|  different domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server
|  or someething like that?
|
| You could just use Apache instead, or you could use the built-in JRun
| server
| assuming you're using CFMX. Or, you could have multiple names pointed to
| your one IIS server, using either a DNS server or your hosts file, and
| use
| CF to figure out how to redirect requests based on the host name
| requested.
|
| I'd generally recommend that you just use Apache, though.
|
| Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
| http://www.figleaf.com/
| phone: 202-797-5496
| fax: 202-797-5444
|
|
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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Haroche
Tony Weeg wrote:
 can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
 pretty standard?

Sure, except that you can't run both Apache and another web server on
the same port 80. You can of course change one server to run on an
alternative port.

The nice thing about Apache is the ability to use the virtualhost
directive to run multiple sites on one machine. If you're interested
I'd be happy to post snippets from my httpd.conf configuration file
showing how.

One bummer about DW MX I've found (unless I'm missing something) is
that it still doesn't play well with virtual hosts -- it wants a
testing server for a defined site to be defined as
http://localhost/site1 as opposed to http://site1, notwithstanding
that http://site1 works fine through my browser and CF Studio 5.

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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Tony Weeg
thanks doug.

any caveats before i install?

tony

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www.apache.org

There is a version of Apache server that will run on windows, actually
much more
popular than IIS

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From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

| can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
| pretty standard?
|
| just wondering...thanks!
|
| tony
|
| tony weeg
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| www.revolutionwebdesign.com
| rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
| 410.334.6331
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:00 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
|
|
|  Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it
|  to serve mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.
|
| No, not to my knowledge. If there were, it would probably violate your
| software license in any case.
|
|  Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve
|  different domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server
|  or someething like that?
|
| You could just use Apache instead, or you could use the built-in JRun
| server
| assuming you're using CFMX. Or, you could have multiple names pointed
to
| your one IIS server, using either a DNS server or your hosts file, and
| use
| CF to figure out how to redirect requests based on the host name
| requested.
|
| I'd generally recommend that you just use Apache, though.
|
| Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
| http://www.figleaf.com/
| phone: 202-797-5496
| fax: 202-797-5444
|
|
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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Tony Weeg
yeah, that makes sense, ill just throw it up on port [something else]
to try, and then give it a whirl...

conf file...yeah, that would be cool.

thanks.

tony

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From: Bob Haroche [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

Tony Weeg wrote:
 can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
 pretty standard?

Sure, except that you can't run both Apache and another web server on
the same port 80. You can of course change one server to run on an
alternative port.

The nice thing about Apache is the ability to use the virtualhost
directive to run multiple sites on one machine. If you're interested
I'd be happy to post snippets from my httpd.conf configuration file
showing how.

One bummer about DW MX I've found (unless I'm missing something) is
that it still doesn't play well with virtual hosts -- it wants a
testing server for a defined site to be defined as
http://localhost/site1 as opposed to http://site1, notwithstanding
that http://site1 works fine through my browser and CF Studio 5.

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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Doug White
Disable world Wide Publishing Service before installing Apache

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Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

| thanks doug.
|
| any caveats before i install?
|
| tony
|
| tony weeg
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| Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:26 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
|
|
| www.apache.org
|
| There is a version of Apache server that will run on windows, actually
| much more
| popular than IIS
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| Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
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|
| | can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
| | pretty standard?
| |
| | just wondering...thanks!
| |
| | tony
| |
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| | -Original Message-
| | From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:00 AM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
| |
| |
| |  Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it
| |  to serve mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.
| |
| | No, not to my knowledge. If there were, it would probably violate your
| | software license in any case.
| |
| |  Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve
| |  different domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server
| |  or someething like that?
| |
| | You could just use Apache instead, or you could use the built-in JRun
| | server
| | assuming you're using CFMX. Or, you could have multiple names pointed
| to
| | your one IIS server, using either a DNS server or your hosts file, and
| | use
| | CF to figure out how to redirect requests based on the host name
| | requested.
| |
| | I'd generally recommend that you just use Apache, though.
| |
| | Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
| | http://www.figleaf.com/
| | phone: 202-797-5496
| | fax: 202-797-5444
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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Tony Weeg
ok cool.
htanks

now, nexty dummy question...HTF do you install this thing?dont see
setup.exe anywwhere :)

i know, im overlooking something, i looked in the readme file...nothing
i could see?i looked in readme.platforms file...nothing?

help.

tony

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Disable world Wide Publishing Service before installing Apache

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From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:28 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

| thanks doug.
|
| any caveats before i install?
|
| tony
|
| tony weeg
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| www.revolutionwebdesign.com
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| 410.334.6331
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:26 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
|
|
| www.apache.org
|
| There is a version of Apache server that will run on windows, actually
| much more
| popular than IIS
|
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| - Original Message - 
| From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:04 AM
| Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
|
|
| | can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
| | pretty standard?
| |
| | just wondering...thanks!
| |
| | tony
| |
| | tony weeg
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | www.revolutionwebdesign.com
| | rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
| | 410.334.6331
| |
| | -Original Message-
| | From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:00 AM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
| |
| |
| |  Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it
| |  to serve mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.
| |
| | No, not to my knowledge. If there were, it would probably violate
your
| | software license in any case.
| |
| |  Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve
| |  different domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server
| |  or someething like that?
| |
| | You could just use Apache instead, or you could use the built-in
JRun
| | server
| | assuming you're using CFMX. Or, you could have multiple names
pointed
| to
| | your one IIS server, using either a DNS server or your hosts file,
and
| | use
| | CF to figure out how to redirect requests based on the host name
| | requested.
| |
| | I'd generally recommend that you just use Apache, though.
| |
| | Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
| | http://www.figleaf.com/
| | phone: 202-797-5496
| | fax: 202-797-5444
| |
| |
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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Jochem van Dieten
Tony Weeg wrote:
 
 now, nexty dummy question...HTF do you install this thing?dont see
 setup.exe anywwhere :)

Search for the .msi

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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Haroche
Did you d/l the right file? -- there should be a win32 binary on
apache.org, as well as the uncompiled versions.

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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Haroche
 conf file...yeah, that would be cool.

In additions to setting up virutal hosts, you'll want to enable apache
to work with CF server, and to parse cgi and pl files correctly, etc.
I can send the whole httpd.conf file offline if you like. For now,
here's the snippets which let me have two local sites running with
these URL's: http://alana and http://bcc.

Note that in my OS hosts file I need to also add:

127.0.0.1 alana
127.0.0.1 bcc

so the machine knows not to look for those local URL's over the Net.
Remember to re-start Apache each time you change the httpd conf
configurations.

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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Doug White
Go to: http://httpd.apache.org/download.cgi

and download the Windows 32 binary MSI version.Once downloaded, just right
click on the file and select install, or double-click on it.

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From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:34 AM
Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

| ok cool.
| htanks
|
| now, nexty dummy question...HTF do you install this thing?dont see
| setup.exe anywwhere :)
|
| i know, im overlooking something, i looked in the readme file...nothing
| i could see?i looked in readme.platforms file...nothing?
|
| help.
|
| tony
|
| tony weeg
| [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| www.revolutionwebdesign.com
| rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
| 410.334.6331
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:42 AM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
|
|
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| - Original Message - 
| From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:28 AM
| Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
|
|
| | thanks doug.
| |
| | any caveats before i install?
| |
| | tony
| |
| | tony weeg
| | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | www.revolutionwebdesign.com
| | rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
| | 410.334.6331
| |
| | -Original Message-
| | From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 10:26 AM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
| |
| |
| | www.apache.org
| |
| | There is a version of Apache server that will run on windows, actually
| | much more
| | popular than IIS
| |
| | ==
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| | - Original Message - 
| | From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 9:04 AM
| | Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
| |
| |
| | | can you run apache on a windows box? alongside everything else thats
| | | pretty standard?
| | |
| | | just wondering...thanks!
| | |
| | | tony
| | |
| | | tony weeg
| | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | | www.revolutionwebdesign.com
| | | rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
| | | 410.334.6331
| | |
| | | -Original Message-
| | | From: Dave Watts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | | Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2003 1:00 AM
| | | To: CF-Talk
| | | Subject: RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation
| | |
| | |
| | |  Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it
| | |  to serve mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.
| | |
| | | No, not to my knowledge. If there were, it would probably violate
| your
| | | software license in any case.
| | |
| | |  Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve
| | |  different domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server
| | |  or someething like that?
| | |
| | | You could just use Apache instead, or you could use the built-in
| JRun
| | | server
| | | assuming you're using CFMX. Or, you could have multiple names
| pointed
| | to
| | | your one IIS server, using either a DNS server or your hosts file,
| and
| | | use
| | | CF to figure out how to redirect requests based on the host name
| | | requested.
| | |
| | | I'd generally recommend that you just use Apache, though.
| | |
| | | Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
| | | http://www.figleaf.com/
| | | phone: 202-797-5496
| | | fax: 202-797-5444
| | |
| | |
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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Raymond Camden
I know this isn't a real answer, but you could just switch to Apache. Thats
what I did on my XP Pro system so I could support N web sites.
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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Tony Weeg
thats a what im plannin' captain :)

tony

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I know this isn't a real answer, but you could just switch to Apache.
Thats
what I did on my XP Pro system so I could support N web sites.
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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Dave Watts
 One bummer about DW MX I've found (unless I'm missing something) is
 that it still doesn't play well with virtual hosts -- it wants a
 testing server for a defined site to be defined as
 http://localhost/site1 as opposed to http://site1, notwithstanding
 that http://site1 works fine through my browser and CF Studio 5.

I haven't run into this problem, and I've had dozens of separate virtual
servers bound to my localhost IP address. Perhaps you don't have RDS
configured properly on your server - to use RDS with a given virtual server,
the URL /CFIDE/Main/ide.cfm needs to be either validly handled or ignored
by your web server.

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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Haroche
Dave Watts wrote:
 One bummer about DW MX I've found (unless I'm missing something) is
 that it still doesn't play well with virtual hosts -- it wants a
 testing server for a defined site to be defined as
 http://localhost/site1 as opposed to http://site1, notwithstanding
 that http://site1 works fine through my browser and CF Studio 5.

Dave, can you elaborate on this? Googling around provided no answers
directly on point.

Last night I managed to get things working somewhat by telling DW to
look at the RDS for localhost server as opposed to virtual host
server client1, but I'm not sure I'm doing things correctly. A step
by step explanation (for advanced dummies) would be great. TIA.

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Re: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-28 Thread Bob Haroche
Doh, I meant to quote Dave's reply to my post, not my post itself. I'm
off to get some coffee.

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RE: Multiple sites on XP Pro workstation

2003-12-27 Thread Dave Watts
 Is there a way to hack IIS that ships with XP Pro to allow it 
 to serve mutliple sites? This is for development purposes.

No, not to my knowledge. If there were, it would probably violate your
software license in any case.

 Alternatively, is there a way to set up a local site to serve 
 different domains with host headers? If I run a local DNS server 
 or someething like that?

You could just use Apache instead, or you could use the built-in JRun server
assuming you're using CFMX. Or, you could have multiple names pointed to
your one IIS server, using either a DNS server or your hosts file, and use
CF to figure out how to redirect requests based on the host name requested.

I'd generally recommend that you just use Apache, though.

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Re: Multiple sites...

2003-08-29 Thread info
Yea, I realized after I sent the last message that my description of how to implement 
it was a little off -- really you should create a wrapper function for getRelative 
that returns the path argument relative to the absolute path containing your tags or 
cfc's or whatever... Incidentally I'm not the first to create a function to do this -- 
I think there's another one on cflib.org with slightly different syntax, and there's 
an even better version (than mine) in the onTap framework that includes some inherent 
caching of relative paths in the server scope (I think the cflib.org tag only caches 
in the request scope if at all) that will improve performance on MX. Also, if you 
download the onTap Framework core files, the cf_core/tag function will show you 
exactly how to create a wrapper for getRelative() to do what you want... Although I 
think it also uses getPath() which uses some of the native architecture of the 
framework that you probably won't need or want, but hopefully it'll be enough to get 
you going. I'm always available if you have any questions. :) 

http://www.turnkey.to/ontap 

download page is here: 

http://www.turnkey.to/ontap/docs/index.cfm?netaction=projects

hth

ike 


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Subject: Re: Multiple sites...

All you'd need to do is replace instances of template=#map#/blah.cfm
with template=#getRelative('blah.cfm')# and I can help you write a
multi-file regular expression to do that if you like. Let me know if
you'd like to go that route and you want some help, I'd be glad to
lend a hand. :)

WOW! This is a really nice UDF. I wonder why MM didn't include on in MX in the first 
place (given that relative paths are so important for CFINCLUDES). I am going to give 
it a try.

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Re: Multiple sites...

2003-08-29 Thread info
That's working almost properly... I don't know how versions of cf-unix work with 
regard to templates stored in different root directories, i.e. /home/blah/blah vs. 
/spaw-cf/blah/blah ... but what the tag does is attempt to get a relative path from 
the current template directory to the target template (or directory)... so... say for 
instance, I had these 2 templates: 

c:/inetpub/wwwroot/mysite/mytemplate.cfm 
c:/inetpub/wwwroot/temp.cfm

If i put #getRelative('c:/inetpub/wwwroot/temp.cfm')# in mytemplate.cfm the resulting 
value would be ../temp.cfm. But if it's not on the same drive (or in the case of 
unix the same root directory) it's gonna try and go all the way back to the root, for 
instance, #getRelative('d:/temp.cfm')# is gonna return ../../../d:/temp.cfm ... on 
Windows this doesn't work -- there's no way to create and use a relative path to a 
file on another drive (that I know of) ... Not sure how Unix handles it. 

What I don't know off the top of my head is why it's creating 13 instances of ../ 
instead of 9 instances of ../ which is the number of directories in the 
getcurrenttemplatepath() string... Probably it's adding an extra array entry for the 
leading slash (if not the trailing slash), so if unix allows a relative path to a 
different root directory, then fixing that will make it work. Let me know if you're 
able to get it to work (and how) and I'll update the function for the bug fix. :) 

hth and thanks, 

Isaac 


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Subject: Re: Multiple sites...

I don't seem to understand the getRelative UDF:

suppose the physical map path for my account is
/home/virtual/sites/mysite/www/html/

the web root map path for my account is
/www/html/

here's a sample:
http://www.elefectoaxe.com.co/spaw/scripts/test3.cfm

what am I doing wrong?

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re: Multiple sites...

2003-08-28 Thread cf_talk
 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:33:20 -0400
 From: Mauricio Giraldo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I was just googling around and found this post. I think I have a situation where 
 relative paths will not solve the problem. I have an app that cannot use relative 
 paths for cfincludes and cannot configure a mapping in cfadmin (shared hosting 
 environment). Am I lost?
 
 Why can't I have relative paths? Because the cfinclude template attribute is 
 dynamically generated. I have a variable set up in the Application.cfm called 
 request.doc_root = /mysite/. CFM files in different subfolders cfinclude othe 
 files in other subfolders based on the doc_root variable.
 
 Another issue is that in our shared hosting environment I cannot instantiate a CFC 
 that is one level up from the file from where I am instantiating.

Who's your host?  Your host should be able to set up a mapping for you (which should 
help you with your CFC problem as well).

With CrystalTech, you just have to ask them to set up a mapping and they'll do it.  
(For me, I just had them set up a mapping to my site's root -- that took care of my 
needs, because I could use relative paths based on that mapping)

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RE: Multiple sites...

2003-08-28 Thread Dan Phillips \(CFXHosting.com\)
Yup, that's what we do too for people using CFCs. Very easy to setup and
manage. 



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 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:33:20 -0400
 From: Mauricio Giraldo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I was just googling around and found this post. I think I have a 
 situation where relative paths will not solve the problem. I have an 
 app that cannot use relative paths for cfincludes and cannot configure

 a mapping in cfadmin (shared hosting environment). Am I lost?
 
 Why can't I have relative paths? Because the cfinclude template 
 attribute is dynamically generated. I have a variable set up in the 
 Application.cfm called request.doc_root = /mysite/. CFM files in 
 different subfolders cfinclude othe files in other subfolders based on

 the doc_root variable.
 
 Another issue is that in our shared hosting environment I cannot 
 instantiate a CFC that is one level up from the file from where I am 
 instantiating.

Who's your host?  Your host should be able to set up a mapping for you
(which should help you with your CFC problem as well).

With CrystalTech, you just have to ask them to set up a mapping and
they'll do it.  (For me, I just had them set up a mapping to my site's
root -- that took care of my needs, because I could use relative paths
based on that mapping)

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re: Multiple sites...

2003-08-28 Thread info
Another alternative to switching hosting providers: 

http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=837

All you'd need to do is replace instances of template=#map#/blah.cfm with 
template=#getRelative('blah.cfm')# and I can help you write a multi-file regular 
expression to do that if you like. Let me know if you'd like to go that route and you 
want some help, I'd be glad to lend a hand. :) 

This UDF is also included in the onTap Framework 

http://www.turnkey.to/ontap 

hth 

Isaac 

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Sent: Aug 28, 2003 07:52 AM
Subject: re: Multiple sites...

 Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 10:33:20 -0400
 From: Mauricio Giraldo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 I was just googling around and found this post. I think I have a situation where 
 relative paths will not solve the problem. I have an app that cannot use relative 
 paths for cfincludes and cannot configure a mapping in cfadmin (shared hosting 
 environment). Am I lost?

 Why can't I have relative paths? Because the cfinclude template attribute is 
 dynamically generated. I have a variable set up in the Application.cfm called 
 request.doc_root = /mysite/. CFM files in different subfolders cfinclude othe 
 files in other subfolders based on the doc_root variable.

 Another issue is that in our shared hosting environment I cannot instantiate a CFC 
 that is one level up from the file from where I am instantiating.

Who's your host?  Your host should be able to set up a mapping for you (which should 
help you with your CFC problem as well).

With CrystalTech, you just have to ask them to set up a mapping and they'll do it.  
(For me, I just had them set up a mapping to my site's root -- that took care of my 
needs, because I could use relative paths based on that mapping)

Scott

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RE: Multiple sites...

2003-08-28 Thread Andre Turrettini
You can keep a cfroot variable similar to your docroot variable.  It simply
contains the path to your application from the / cf mapping.  

So, if your hosting provider had / mapped to c:/www but your site is
c:/www/foldername/yoursite, you would keep request.cfmapping =
/foldername.  Then you would just do cfinclude
template=#cfmpapping#/puu/somthing.cfm

DRE

-Original Message-
From: Mauricio Giraldo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 8:33 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple sites...


Hello

I was just googling around and found this post. I think I have a situation
where relative paths will not solve the problem. I have an app that cannot
use relative paths for cfincludes and cannot configure a mapping in cfadmin
(shared hosting environment). Am I lost?

Why can't I have relative paths? Because the cfinclude template attribute is
dynamically generated. I have a variable set up in the Application.cfm
called request.doc_root = /mysite/. CFM files in different subfolders
cfinclude othe files in other subfolders based on the doc_root variable.

Another issue is that in our shared hosting environment I cannot instantiate
a CFC that is one level up from the file from where I am instantiating.

Is there a workaround for these issues?

Thanks

- mga

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RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm

2003-02-25 Thread Debbie Dickerson
There is a performance difference associated with changing that setting, which is why 
it's set to the default value it is. At least with it set the way it is, it becomes 
obviously very quickly that something needs to be changed in order to work correctly. 
If it defaulted to the other, most people may never know that they're running slower 
than they need to (if they're not multihomed, that is). Just my opinion.

There's an enhancement request open for the ability to specify whether you're 
multihomed or not during installation. It's #49199. I've added your vote to the 
request, Ben.

And last but not least, as for the documentation for this issue, it's listed in the 
top 10 at http://www.macromedia.com/support/programs/self/coldfusion.html, it's in the 
list on the installation page at 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/installation.html and it's also in the 
list on the testing  troubleshooting page at 
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/troubleshoot.html. If you think it should 
be listed somewhere else within the ColdFusion Support Center, just let me know.

Deb

-Original Message-
From: Ben Koshy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm


Not sure if Dave Watts beat me to this yet, but since he set me straight
on this a few months back:

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23179Method=Full

I'll return the favor.  This has got to be the #1 asked question on this
list.  Macromedia should default the webserver for multihomed
configuration (maybe there's a speed/performance issue) or at least
modify their installation GUI to add an option for it.   Or at least in
the support centre a top ten installation questions area... (maybe
there is...site is too big).

Sincerely,

Ben.
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RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm

2003-02-24 Thread Matthew Walker
It sounds like maybe you're got trusted cache turned on. You need to
manually turn this off if hosting multiple sites (multi-homed). Here's
the info. There are a few other pitfalls re multi-homed servers, e.g.
with flash remoting. 

When ColdFusion MX is installed on a multihomed server, edit the
application server's jrun.xml file to disable the stand-alone web server
and pathname caching.
1.  Stop the ColdFusion MX Application Server service using the
Services Control Panel. 
2.  Back up the existing
cf_root\runtime\servers\default\SERVER-INF\jrun.xml. Where cf_root is
your ColdFusion MX installation root. 
3.  Edit the WebService section of jrun.xml so that the deactivated
attribute is True: 
attribute name=deactivatedtrue/attribute
4.  Edit the ProxyService section of jrun.xml so that the
cacheRealPath attribute is False: 
attribute name=cacheRealPathfalse/attribute
5.  Save jrun.xml and restart the ColdFusion MX Application Server
service. 


 -Original Message-
 From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, 25 February 2003 1:31 p.m.
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm
 
 
 Hello,
 
  
 
   I am having a strange problem with an IIS4.0 and cfmx
 configuration.  We have about 7 different sites set up in 
 IIS, for this
 example named (site1-site7).  The problem is that it seems if 
 you go to
 site1/index.cfm or site2/index.cfm or site3/index.cfm or ... 
 site7/index.cfm
 the same index.cfm shows up across all sites.  And the weird 
 thing is that
 it isn't always the same index.cfm file, it changes every 
 once in a while.
 Any ideas what is going, sounds like it is something simple, 
 I just can't
 find it.
 
  
 
 Thanks.
 
  
 
 ---
 
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 Application Developer
 
 Alfred University
 
 Alumni Hall
 
 607-871-2334
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 
  
 
 
 
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RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm

2003-02-24 Thread Barney Boisvert
You have to change a setting in one of the CFMX config files.  The setting
is 'cacheRealPath', and found in
/opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/servers/default/SERVER-INF (about line 375) on
Linux, the windows path should be easy to deduce from that.  Set it to
'false' and your problems will go away.

barneyb

 -Original Message-
 From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:31 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm


 Hello,



   I am having a strange problem with an IIS4.0 and cfmx
 configuration.  We have about 7 different sites set up in IIS, for this
 example named (site1-site7).  The problem is that it seems if you go to
 site1/index.cfm or site2/index.cfm or site3/index.cfm or ...
 site7/index.cfm
 the same index.cfm shows up across all sites.  And the weird thing is that
 it isn't always the same index.cfm file, it changes every once in a while.
 Any ideas what is going, sounds like it is something simple, I just can't
 find it.



 Thanks.



 ---

 Kevin Kazmierczak, CCNA

 Application Developer

 Alfred University

 Alumni Hall

 607-871-2334

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]




 
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RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm

2003-02-24 Thread Ben Koshy
Not sure if Dave Watts beat me to this yet, but since he set me straight
on this a few months back:

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23179Method=Full

I'll return the favor.  This has got to be the #1 asked question on this
list.  Macromedia should default the webserver for multihomed
configuration (maybe there's a speed/performance issue) or at least
modify their installation GUI to add an option for it.   Or at least in
the support centre a top ten installation questions area... (maybe
there is...site is too big).

Sincerely,

Ben.


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RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm

2003-02-24 Thread Barney Boisvert
Boy did I botch that.  The file is 'jrun.xml', but Matthew provided even
better instructions, so I'm just going to shut up.

 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:40 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm


 You have to change a setting in one of the CFMX config files.  The setting
 is 'cacheRealPath', and found in
 /opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/servers/default/SERVER-INF (about line 375) on
 Linux, the windows path should be easy to deduce from that.  Set it to
 'false' and your problems will go away.

 barneyb

  -Original Message-
  From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:31 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm
 
 
  Hello,
 
 
 
I am having a strange problem with an IIS4.0 and cfmx
  configuration.  We have about 7 different sites set up in IIS, for this
  example named (site1-site7).  The problem is that it seems if you go to
  site1/index.cfm or site2/index.cfm or site3/index.cfm or ...
  site7/index.cfm
  the same index.cfm shows up across all sites.  And the weird
 thing is that
  it isn't always the same index.cfm file, it changes every once
 in a while.
  Any ideas what is going, sounds like it is something simple, I
 just can't
  find it.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
  ---
 
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  Application Developer
 
  Alfred University
 
  Alumni Hall
 
  607-871-2334
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm

2003-02-24 Thread Kazmierczak, Kevin
I got it, thank you so much for the help.

---
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Application Developer
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Alumni Hall
607-871-2334
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-Original Message-
From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 7:45 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm

Boy did I botch that.  The file is 'jrun.xml', but Matthew provided even
better instructions, so I'm just going to shut up.

 -Original Message-
 From: Barney Boisvert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:40 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm


 You have to change a setting in one of the CFMX config files.  The setting
 is 'cacheRealPath', and found in
 /opt/coldfusionmx/runtime/servers/default/SERVER-INF (about line 375) on
 Linux, the windows path should be easy to deduce from that.  Set it to
 'false' and your problems will go away.

 barneyb

  -Original Message-
  From: Kazmierczak, Kevin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, February 24, 2003 4:31 PM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Multiple Sites in IIS and CFMX probelm
 
 
  Hello,
 
 
 
I am having a strange problem with an IIS4.0 and cfmx
  configuration.  We have about 7 different sites set up in IIS, for this
  example named (site1-site7).  The problem is that it seems if you go to
  site1/index.cfm or site2/index.cfm or site3/index.cfm or ...
  site7/index.cfm
  the same index.cfm shows up across all sites.  And the weird
 thing is that
  it isn't always the same index.cfm file, it changes every once
 in a while.
  Any ideas what is going, sounds like it is something simple, I
 just can't
  find it.
 
 
 
  Thanks.
 
 
 
  ---
 
  Kevin Kazmierczak, CCNA
 
  Application Developer
 
  Alfred University
 
  Alumni Hall
 
  607-871-2334
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Multiple Sites

2003-01-10 Thread Michael Dinowitz
Thread:
http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=m:4:15072:78115
KB article:
http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23179Method=Full


 Ok, I know I asked this once (and fixed it once on one server) but now I
 can't find it in the archives. What's the link to the MM KB about
 configuring MX for multiple site hosting? Have one Linux box (it was MS
 last time) that everytime we refresh the page it shows a file of the
 same name from one of the other sites hosted on the machine...

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RE: Multiple Sites in IIS

2002-09-25 Thread Turetsky, Seth

Not really sure what you mean?
When you say a page is not being refreshed, do you mean it's caching it?


-Original Message-
From: Shahzad.Butt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2002 3:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple Sites in IIS


Does anyone has faced the problem of having multiple websites in IIS
(using CFMX). Whats happening with us is that Page is not being
refreshed neither is it looking for new files if we add new file in
website. 
 
Pls reply with any issues or problems using multiple sites.
 
 
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Re: Multiple Sites in IIS

2002-09-25 Thread Sean Daniels

On Wednesday, September 25, 2002, at 03:14  PM, Shahzad.Butt wrote:

 Does anyone has faced the problem of having multiple websites in IIS
 (using CFMX). Whats happening with us is that Page is not being
 refreshed neither is it looking for new files if we add new file in
 website.

 Pls reply with any issues or problems using multiple sites.

See this knowledgebase article for info on configuring CFMX on 
Multi-homed IIS machines:

http://www.macromedia.com/v1/Handlers/index.cfm?ID=23390Method=Full

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Re: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Gyrus

 When you're trying to cfinclude
 templates, it won't include from the proper directory, without creating
 mappings in the ColdFusion administrator, and then using a variable to
store
 that mapping.

Never had this problem, I always use relative paths, e.g.
cfinclude template=../../myFile.cfm - would this work
for you?

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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Kevin Langevin

Best thing to do in that situation is use relative urls
(../includes/blah.cfm) in your CFINCLUDEs.  That way, as long as your
directory structure stays the same, your site should work perfectly when you
just copy it over.

Another thing you can do is set a variable in your application.cfm, like:

CFSET imageDir = D:\wwwroot\mysite\images\

Then, in the pages where you access this directory, do it using #imageDir#.
When you move the site, just change the once instance of each path defined
like this, and voila.  This method has problems, though, because if you're
on a shared server, you have to figure out what those absolute paths are, by
using some getBaseTemplatePath() functions.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:17 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Multiple sites...


 Hi,

 I'm new on the list and to ColdFusion in general, so take it easy on me.

 I would like to have two (or more) sites on my NT box, one for
 staging, and
 one for production.  For example, I'd like to have a website
 (stage.livingscriptures.com) that I do all my pre-production work in, and
 then when I'm finished, simply copy everything over to a different
 directory, that would be my production site (www.livingscriptures.com).

 This is very simple to do with say, ASP, but I have found difficulty in
 getting this to work with ColdFusion.  When you're trying to cfinclude
 templates, it won't include from the proper directory, without creating
 mappings in the ColdFusion administrator, and then using a
 variable to store
 that mapping.

 My co-worker introduced my to ColdFusion, and I think it's a
 GREAT product,
 but the inability to do this has frustrated me.  Maybe I'm
 approaching this
 the wrong way.  I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me
 with this.
 Thanks!

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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Tangorre, Michael T.

Hi Les,

I do all my mapping stuff in the application.cfm file. That way, when you
move things over, you just change a few lines in the application.cfm file.
I set imagepath, DSN, homepath, and a few others... Makes things go real
smnooth when moving over.

Mike


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From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple sites...


Hi,

I'm new on the list and to ColdFusion in general, so take it easy on me.

I would like to have two (or more) sites on my NT box, one for staging, and
one for production.  For example, I'd like to have a website
(stage.livingscriptures.com) that I do all my pre-production work in, and
then when I'm finished, simply copy everything over to a different
directory, that would be my production site (www.livingscriptures.com).

This is very simple to do with say, ASP, but I have found difficulty in
getting this to work with ColdFusion.  When you're trying to cfinclude
templates, it won't include from the proper directory, without creating
mappings in the ColdFusion administrator, and then using a variable to store
that mapping.

My co-worker introduced my to ColdFusion, and I think it's a GREAT product,
but the inability to do this has frustrated me.  Maybe I'm approaching this
the wrong way.  I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me with this.
Thanks!

---Les Buchanan
Newbie ColdFusion Developer

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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Les Buchanan

Hmmm...  Thanks for all the help everyone...

I guess I'll just have to decide the lesser of the two evils.  =)

I'm surprised that ColdFusion server doesn't have a way to handle multiple
sites.  Does anyone know if there is going to be any support for this in
future editions?

Thanks again everyone!

---Les Buchanan

-Original Message-
From: Tangorre, Michael T. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:32 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


Hi Les,

I do all my mapping stuff in the application.cfm file. That way, when you
move things over, you just change a few lines in the application.cfm file.
I set imagepath, DSN, homepath, and a few others... Makes things go real
smnooth when moving over.

Mike


-Original Message-
From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 1:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Multiple sites...


Hi,

I'm new on the list and to ColdFusion in general, so take it easy on me.

I would like to have two (or more) sites on my NT box, one for staging, and
one for production.  For example, I'd like to have a website
(stage.livingscriptures.com) that I do all my pre-production work in, and
then when I'm finished, simply copy everything over to a different
directory, that would be my production site (www.livingscriptures.com).

This is very simple to do with say, ASP, but I have found difficulty in
getting this to work with ColdFusion.  When you're trying to cfinclude
templates, it won't include from the proper directory, without creating
mappings in the ColdFusion administrator, and then using a variable to store
that mapping.

My co-worker introduced my to ColdFusion, and I think it's a GREAT product,
but the inability to do this has frustrated me.  Maybe I'm approaching this
the wrong way.  I'd really appreciate it if someone could help me with this.
Thanks!

---Les Buchanan
Newbie ColdFusion Developer


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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Tyler M. Fitch

Les,

I can say that CF does a great job of running multiple sites.  The key,
that has already been mentioned is to use relative paths for your
CFINCLUDEs.  We have a dozen IIS sites and essentially 50 others sites
in subdirectories under one of those and they all work absolutely fine
without using CF mappings, though it is there if you wanted it.

I don't think using relative paths is the lesser of an evil.  It's
simply how CF does it's thing when you need to run more than one site.

As far as future support, I haven't seen anything added or planned for
adding in future releases, I guess because most people seem to get it
working with the methods already available.

Just my $0.02

t

Tyler M. Fitch
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

http://isitedesign.com



-Original Message-
From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


Hmmm...  Thanks for all the help everyone...

I guess I'll just have to decide the lesser of the two evils.  =)

I'm surprised that ColdFusion server doesn't have a way to handle
multiple sites.  Does anyone know if there is going to be any support
for this in future editions?

Thanks again everyone!

---Les Buchanan


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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Herbener, Martin - School Information Technology

I can't agree that it does a great job.  It's adequate, but it would it
would be better if there could be multiple instances of the CF engine 
so,
for instance, one application's badly-locked code didn't hurt another
application.  It would also permit tuning the server settings for the 
needs
of each application.  For instance, Les might like his development site 
to
do full checking for shared-scope locks while his production site does 
none.


 -Original Message-
 From: Tyler M. Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites...
 
 
 Les,
 
 I can say that CF does a great job of running multiple sites. 
  The key,
 that has already been mentioned is to use relative paths for your
 CFINCLUDEs.  We have a dozen IIS sites and essentially 50 others 
sites
 in subdirectories under one of those and they all work absolutely 
fine
 without using CF mappings, though it is there if you wanted it.
 
 I don't think using relative paths is the lesser of an evil.  It's
 simply how CF does it's thing when you need to run more than one 
site.
 
 As far as future support, I haven't seen anything added or planned 
for
 adding in future releases, I guess because most people seem to get it
 working with the methods already available.
 
 Just my $0.02
 
 t
 
 Tyler M. Fitch
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
 
 http://isitedesign.com
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:52 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites...
 
 
 Hmmm...  Thanks for all the help everyone...
 
 I guess I'll just have to decide the lesser of the two evils.  =)
 
 I'm surprised that ColdFusion server doesn't have a way to handle
 multiple sites.  Does anyone know if there is going to be any support
 for this in future editions?
 
 Thanks again everyone!
 
 ---Les Buchanan
 
 
 

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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Mark A. Kruger - CFG

Coming in neo

-Original Message-
From: Herbener, Martin - School Information Technology
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


I can't agree that it does a great job.  It's adequate, but it would it
would be better if there could be multiple instances of the CF engine
so,
for instance, one application's badly-locked code didn't hurt another
application.  It would also permit tuning the server settings for the
needs
of each application.  For instance, Les might like his development site
to
do full checking for shared-scope locks while his production site does
none.


 -Original Message-
 From: Tyler M. Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


 Les,

 I can say that CF does a great job of running multiple sites.
  The key,
 that has already been mentioned is to use relative paths for your
 CFINCLUDEs.  We have a dozen IIS sites and essentially 50 others
sites
 in subdirectories under one of those and they all work absolutely
fine
 without using CF mappings, though it is there if you wanted it.

 I don't think using relative paths is the lesser of an evil.  It's
 simply how CF does it's thing when you need to run more than one
site.

 As far as future support, I haven't seen anything added or planned
for
 adding in future releases, I guess because most people seem to get it
 working with the methods already available.

 Just my $0.02

 t

 Tyler M. Fitch
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

 http://isitedesign.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:52 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


 Hmmm...  Thanks for all the help everyone...

 I guess I'll just have to decide the lesser of the two evils.  =)

 I'm surprised that ColdFusion server doesn't have a way to handle
 multiple sites.  Does anyone know if there is going to be any support
 for this in future editions?

 Thanks again everyone!

 ---Les Buchanan




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Re: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Bryan Stevenson

Ditto...I use relative paths always.  I've built a handy tag to build the relative 
path back to the
root of the site from anby directory.  I just call the tag in the application.cfm file 
in whatever
directory I'm working in.  That gives me a RelativePath var to use in my 
includes...works like a
charm.

Bryan Stevenson
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Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
p. 250.920.8830
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- Original Message -
From: Gyrus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: Multiple sites...


  When you're trying to cfinclude
  templates, it won't include from the proper directory, without creating
  mappings in the ColdFusion administrator, and then using a variable to
 store
  that mapping.

 Never had this problem, I always use relative paths, e.g.
 cfinclude template=../../myFile.cfm - would this work
 for you?

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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Les Buchanan

It just seems odd to me that I'd have to do it that way...  I guess relative
paths isn't going to be a problem, thinking about it now...  that's the
method I'll use.  Thanks guys!

---Les

-Original Message-
From: Tyler M. Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 12:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


Les,

I can say that CF does a great job of running multiple sites.  The key,
that has already been mentioned is to use relative paths for your
CFINCLUDEs.  We have a dozen IIS sites and essentially 50 others sites
in subdirectories under one of those and they all work absolutely fine
without using CF mappings, though it is there if you wanted it.

I don't think using relative paths is the lesser of an evil.  It's
simply how CF does it's thing when you need to run more than one site.

As far as future support, I haven't seen anything added or planned for
adding in future releases, I guess because most people seem to get it
working with the methods already available.

Just my $0.02

t

Tyler M. Fitch
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

http://isitedesign.com



-Original Message-
From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:52 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


Hmmm...  Thanks for all the help everyone...

I guess I'll just have to decide the lesser of the two evils.  =)

I'm surprised that ColdFusion server doesn't have a way to handle
multiple sites.  Does anyone know if there is going to be any support
for this in future editions?

Thanks again everyone!

---Les Buchanan



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RE: Multiple sites...

2002-01-16 Thread Les Buchanan

Sweet...  thanks for the info Mark!

---Les

-Original Message-
From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


Coming in neo

-Original Message-
From: Herbener, Martin - School Information Technology
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 11:24 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


I can't agree that it does a great job.  It's adequate, but it would it
would be better if there could be multiple instances of the CF engine
so,
for instance, one application's badly-locked code didn't hurt another
application.  It would also permit tuning the server settings for the
needs
of each application.  For instance, Les might like his development site
to
do full checking for shared-scope locks while his production site does
none.


 -Original Message-
 From: Tyler M. Fitch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 2:11 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


 Les,

 I can say that CF does a great job of running multiple sites.
  The key,
 that has already been mentioned is to use relative paths for your
 CFINCLUDEs.  We have a dozen IIS sites and essentially 50 others
sites
 in subdirectories under one of those and they all work absolutely
fine
 without using CF mappings, though it is there if you wanted it.

 I don't think using relative paths is the lesser of an evil.  It's
 simply how CF does it's thing when you need to run more than one
site.

 As far as future support, I haven't seen anything added or planned
for
 adding in future releases, I guess because most people seem to get it
 working with the methods already available.

 Just my $0.02

 t

 Tyler M. Fitch
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer

 http://isitedesign.com



 -Original Message-
 From: Les Buchanan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 10:52 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Multiple sites...


 Hmmm...  Thanks for all the help everyone...

 I guess I'll just have to decide the lesser of the two evils.  =)

 I'm surprised that ColdFusion server doesn't have a way to handle
 multiple sites.  Does anyone know if there is going to be any support
 for this in future editions?

 Thanks again everyone!

 ---Les Buchanan




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