Re: Secure Email Access
On Wednesday 05 Jan 2005 18:22 pm, Paul Vernon wrote: Thing is it Gmail doesn't require SSH, it requires POP3 over SSL... :) shrug I thought I'd answer the question rather than second guessing any errors in the post :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834XXX web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189495 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Secure Email Access
Sorry, my mistake, but we all knew what I meant ;-) -Original Message- From: Paul Vernon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2005 18:22 To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: Secure Email Access Thing is it Gmail doesn't require SSH, it requires POP3 over SSL... :) Paul ~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=17 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189496 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Secure Email Access
On Tuesday 04 Jan 2005 14:47 pm, James Smith wrote: Does anyone know of a way to access pop mail with CF using SSH? I ask because gmail seems to require it. Tunnel it. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834XXX web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~| Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=17 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189350 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Secure Email Access
SSH by its very nature is tunnelling so I suppose he answered his own post ;-) -Original Message- From: Thomas Chiverton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2005 12:00 To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: Secure Email Access On Tuesday 04 Jan 2005 14:47 pm, James Smith wrote: Does anyone know of a way to access pop mail with CF using SSH? I ask because gmail seems to require it. Tunnel it. -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834XXX web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** ~| Sams Teach Yourself Regular Expressions in 10 Minutes by Ben Forta http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=40 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189353 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Secure Email Access
Thing is it Gmail doesn't require SSH, it requires POP3 over SSL... :) Paul ~| Protect your mail server with built in anti-virus protection. It's not only good for you, it's good for everybody. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=39 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189412 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
RE: Secure Email Access
I wrote CFX_POP3 Pro because CFPOP doesn't support SSL connections. Works a treat for GETALL and GETHEADERONLY... http://store.newmediadevelopment.net/cfx_tag.cfm?ProductID=16 Interestingly, when testing some of the advanced functions of the CFX_POP3 tag against Gmail, I found a bug with the Gmail POP3 implementation. When using the POP3 'TOP' command, their server marks the mail as read and you can no longer retrieve it once that happens without going into the Gmail interface and resetting the POP3 functions... The guys at Gmail have confirmed it as a bug but there is no ETA on when it is going to be fixed... The only saving grace is that this this only affects the spam filtering/scoring functions on the GETHEADERONLY action in CFX_POP3 so it's no great shakes if all you want to do is use standard CFPOP like functionality :) Paul ~| Find out how CFTicket can increase your company's customer support efficiency by 100% http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=49 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:4:189247 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:4 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.4 Donations Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
Re: Secure email
On Tuesday 14 Oct 2003 13:08 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Off the top of everybodies heads, can they think of an easy way of sending secure email from Coldfusion MX, or is it something the email server handles? I'm sure there are plenty of PGP custom tags out there. 'course, it depends what you mean by 'secure' :-) -- Tom Chiverton Advanced ColdFusion Programmer Tel: +44(0)1749 834997 email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] BlueFinger Limited Underwood Business Park Wookey Hole Road, WELLS. BA5 1AF Tel: +44 (0)1749 834900 Fax: +44 (0)1749 834901 web: www.bluefinger.com Company Reg No: 4209395 Registered Office: 2 Temple Back East, Temple Quay, BRISTOL. BS1 6EG. *** This E-mail contains confidential information for the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify us immediately. You should not use, disclose, distribute or copy this communication if received in error. No binding contract will result from this e-mail until such time as a written document is signed on behalf of the company. BlueFinger Limited cannot accept responsibility for the completeness or accuracy of this message as it has been transmitted over public networks.*** [Todays Threads] [This Message] [Subscription] [Fast Unsubscribe] [User Settings]
Re: secure email...
Yep In the CFMAIL section of the Docs for version 5.0 it describes the tags. It is similar to CFPOP as well and works the same way. The FROM address should be the Account name the mail server uses, followed by password =pop passwordhere You use the REPLYTO as the email address of the user actually sending the mail to prevent spamming. When I get a chance I will dig out the code from a running app I have if you cannot find it. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Josh Trefethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:08 AM Subject: RE: secure email... | Hey Doug, you there? | | -- | Josh Trefethen | | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. | | | -Original Message- | From: Josh Trefethen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:29 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: secure email... | | | I was thinking the same thing... | | There is no reference to a log in and password in your example...what am | I missing? | | -- | Josh Trefethen | | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. | | | -Original Message- | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:02 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: secure email... | | | Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when | sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 | | I don't get it. Your code sample shows no username or password parms | anywhere. I've checked the CF docs and there is no such support for | what you describe in MX. I don't have 5.0 docs handy. | | What am I missing? | | fyi cfparaming in a message-id is another good idea alongside reply-to. | Both help keep some anti-spam systems (like Declude) from flagging the | message fo poor formatting. | | cfmailparam name=Message-ID | value=#CreateUUID()#@#attributes.EmailServer# | | --- | Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc. | http://mysecretbase.com - Retail | http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools | --- | | | -- Original Message -- | from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:09:30 -0600 | | I imagine you can pass just about any variable you want to, however, it | | might be smart to try in some way to validate that the reply to is a | valid email address or to discard the email completely. | | One of the advantages I discovered using the REPLYTO is that when the | addressee had a vacation reply or auto-responder set up, it will not go | | into a mail loop. Those make sys admins very mad at you. | | I am trying to write a custom tag that will do a SMTP | verify, to try to catch bad email addresses, but it is not | yet ready for prime time :-) | | For those that were talking about using Linux, I have been | successfully using Sendmail and with Mailman to support the mailing | lists. (Imail on Windows has all this built-in) but am in the | process of switching the Linux mail server to Postfix, which | is an all-in-one package that will handle email, list | server, and web mail, and WebMin for remote administration. | | Both my Imail and my sendmail servers are high volume, as I support | free hosting for User groups, and their mail lists. Rarely is email | taking longer than one to two minutes to deliver, and in those cases, | it is usually a reluctant receiving mail server that causes the delay. | Hotmail is the worst offender, but right in there is | Verizon.net, and earthlink. | | | = | Douglas White | group Manager | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.samcfug.org | = | - Original Message - | From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:31 PM | Subject: Re: secure email... | | | | Doug, | | | | I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a | parameterized value .. | | pretty cool was to roll in the reply-to... | | | | Are you aware of any list or decision on what values can | be used (ie: | | does CF have open architecture to handle and pass any | value like that | | which might be SMTP standards compliant or did CF folks | just allow a few | | like this)... | | | | IMplemented that reply-to workaround on our mail to friend | feature.. | | very cool.. thanks a bunch! | | | | | | | | Paris Lundis | | Founder | | Areaindex, L.L.C. | | http://www.areaindex.com | | http://www.pubcrawler.com | | 412-292-3135 | | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the | present] | | [connecting people, places and things] | | | | | | -Original Message
RE: secure email...
Checked both CF Studio docs and printed docs for CF5 earlier today and saw no mention of it at all. Ken -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:47 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: secure email... I'd definitely like to see that. I can't understand why the feature would be absent in CF 4.5, present in CF 5 and absent again in CFMX. Does anyone have a set of online docs for CF 5 that are web-accessible (and rendered safe, of course?) Something at MM, maybe? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: secure email...
Douglas White wrote: In the CFMAIL section of the Docs for version 5.0 it describes the tags. It is similar to CFPOP as well and works the same way. I just went and looked at the CF5 docs at http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/documentation.html There is no such thing as username and password login (smtp auth) support according to these docs, at least in the docs for cfmail and cfmailparam. I wonder if that code you mention would work if strict attribute validation is turned on? Or - and this is the last possibility :) - is this undocumented? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: secure email...
AFAIK, SMTP authentication was never in CF. Not sure if it's in CFMX. Regards, Howie - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: secure email... I'd definitely like to see that. I can't understand why the feature would be absent in CF 4.5, present in CF 5 and absent again in CFMX. Does anyone have a set of online docs for CF 5 that are web-accessible (and rendered safe, of course?) Something at MM, maybe? ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: secure email...
It has been available since version 3 = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: secure email... | I'd definitely like to see that. I can't understand why the feature would be absent in CF 4.5, present in CF 5 and absent again in CFMX. Does anyone have a set of online docs for CF 5 that are web-accessible (and rendered safe, of course?) Something at MM, maybe? | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: secure email...
I find it in the Docs for CF SERVER 5.0 not in studio docs. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: RE: secure email... | Checked both CF Studio docs and printed docs for CF5 earlier today and | saw no mention of it at all. | | Ken | | | | -Original Message- | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:47 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: secure email... | | | I'd definitely like to see that. I can't understand why the feature | would be absent in CF 4.5, present in CF 5 and absent again in CFMX. | Does anyone have a set of online docs for CF 5 that are web-accessible | (and rendered safe, of course?) Something at MM, maybe? | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: secure email...
It has been available since version 3 uh... Not in cfmail and cfmailparam, it hasn't. Unless this is undocumented. Its not in the cf4.5, cf5 and cfmx documentation. I could dig up a cf3 disk but I think that would be overkill. It looks like you're mistaken. -- Original Message -- from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:09:28 -0600 = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Matt Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 11:46 AM Subject: secure email... | I'd definitely like to see that. I can't understand why the feature would be absent in CF 4.5, present in CF 5 and absent again in CFMX. Does anyone have a set of online docs for CF 5 that are web-accessible (and rendered safe, of course?) Something at MM, maybe? | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: secure email...
Are we talking about different things here? Thats the only thing that makes any sense, as you're the only one who has looked at these docs and seen the feature, or has heard of it. This has got to be some sort of misunderstanding. What I heard from your original post was that cfmail supports the use of username and password for smtp auth. so: cfmail .. username=BLAH password=BLAH .. If thats what you mean, it ain't there anywhere on any version. --- Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - Retail http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools --- -- Original Message -- from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 13:11:08 -0600 I find it in the Docs for CF SERVER 5.0 not in studio docs. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: RE: secure email... | Checked both CF Studio docs and printed docs for CF5 earlier today and | saw no mention of it at all. | | Ken | | | | -Original Message- | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:47 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: secure email... | | | I'd definitely like to see that. I can't understand why the feature | would be absent in CF 4.5, present in CF 5 and absent again in CFMX. | Does anyone have a set of online docs for CF 5 that are web-accessible | (and rendered safe, of course?) Something at MM, maybe? | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: secure email...
Hmmm, odd. Printed docs? Can you give me page #? My curiousity is really growing now. Somehow I think we're talking about two entirely different things here. :) Ken -Original Message- From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:11 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: secure email... I find it in the Docs for CF SERVER 5.0 not in studio docs. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: RE: secure email... | Checked both CF Studio docs and printed docs for CF5 earlier today and | saw no mention of it at all. | | Ken | | | | -Original Message- | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:47 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: secure email... | | | I'd definitely like to see that. I can't understand why the feature | would be absent in CF 4.5, present in CF 5 and absent again in CFMX. | Does anyone have a set of online docs for CF 5 that are web-accessible | (and rendered safe, of course?) Something at MM, maybe? | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: secure email...
Doug post a sample of code when you find it interesting knowledge that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly in any of the books I have sitting here... -paris Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 11:52:01 -0600 Subject: Re: secure email... Yep In the CFMAIL section of the Docs for version 5.0 it describes the tags. It is similar to CFPOP as well and works the same way. The FROM address should be the Account name the mail server uses, followed by password =pop passwordhere You use the REPLYTO as the email address of the user actually sending the mail to prevent spamming. When I get a chance I will dig out the code from a running app I have if you cannot find it. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Josh Trefethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 12:08 AM Subject: RE: secure email... | Hey Doug, you there? | | -- | Josh Trefethen | | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. | | | -Original Message- | From: Josh Trefethen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:29 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: secure email... | | | I was thinking the same thing... | | There is no reference to a log in and password in your example...what am | I missing? | | -- | Josh Trefethen | | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. | | | -Original Message- | From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:02 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: Re: secure email... | | | Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when | sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 | | I don't get it. Your code sample shows no username or password parms | anywhere. I've checked the CF docs and there is no such support for | what you describe in MX. I don't have 5.0 docs handy. | | What am I missing? | | fyi cfparaming in a message-id is another good idea alongside reply-to. | Both help keep some anti-spam systems (like Declude) from flagging the | message fo poor formatting. | | cfmailparam name=Message-ID | value=#CreateUUID()#@#attributes.EmailServer# | | --- | Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc. | http://mysecretbase.com - Retail | http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools | --- | | | -- Original Message -- | from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:09:30 -0600 | | I imagine you can pass just about any variable you want to, however, it | | might be smart to try in some way to validate that the reply to is a | valid email address or to discard the email completely. | | One of the advantages I discovered using the REPLYTO is that when the | addressee had a vacation reply or auto-responder set up, it will not go | | into a mail loop. Those make sys admins very mad at you. | | I am trying to write a custom tag that will do a SMTP | verify, to try to catch bad email addresses, but it is not | yet ready for prime time :-) | | For those that were talking about using Linux, I have been | successfully using Sendmail and with Mailman to support the mailing | lists. (Imail on Windows has all this built-in) but am in the | process of switching the Linux mail server to Postfix, which | is an all-in-one package that will handle email, list | server, and web mail, and WebMin for remote administration. | | Both my Imail and my sendmail servers are high volume, as I support | free hosting for User groups, and their mail lists. Rarely is email | taking longer than one to two minutes to deliver, and in those cases, | it is usually a reluctant receiving mail server that causes the delay. | Hotmail is the worst offender, but right in there is | Verizon.net, and earthlink. | | | = | Douglas White | group Manager | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.samcfug.org | = | - Original Message - | From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:31 PM | Subject: Re: secure email... | | | | Doug, | | | | I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a | parameterized value .. | | pretty cool
Re: secure email...
As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I will copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies the Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with an acknowledgement of his/her order. It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site, I followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have been using exactly this same code since Version 3. As inept as I am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases out there. If you have the Server installed on a local machine and selected install documentation them open the tag reference and do a search for CFMAIL and password The code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same.Works just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise) But I am using this with CF 5.0 server running. I agree the documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most of MM's documentation, I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH implemented. That is it requires not only a user name, but a password in order to send mail out. I do not have relaying turned on and the mail server is not on the same machine as the web site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses Win2k/Imail, and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail and both require SMTP AUTH. The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network. The public web site is hosted on one of my servers. The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com and my hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to relay or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by filtering through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl. Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have an idea that we are. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Doug post a sample of code when you find it interesting knowledge | that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly in any of the | books I have sitting here... | | -paris | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: secure email...
Doug, is this SMTP auth a feature through CFMAILPARAM as the reply to was we talked about? Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:20:43 -0600 Subject: Re: secure email... As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I will copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies the Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with an acknowledgement of his/her order. It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site, I followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have been using exactly this same code since Version 3. As inept as I am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases out there. If you have the Server installed on a local machine and selected install documentation them open the tag reference and do a search for CFMAIL and password The code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same.Works just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise) But I am using this with CF 5.0 server running. I agree the documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most of MM's documentation, I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH implemented. That is it requires not only a user name, but a password in order to send mail out. I do not have relaying turned on and the mail server is not on the same machine as the web site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses Win2k/Imail, and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail and both require SMTP AUTH. The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network. The public web site is hosted on one of my servers. The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com and my hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to relay or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by filtering through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl. Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have an idea that we are. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Doug post a sample of code when you find it interesting knowledge | that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly in any of the | books I have sitting here... | | -paris | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: secure email...
Yes it is = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Doug, is this SMTP auth a feature through CFMAILPARAM as the reply to | was we talked about? | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] | [connecting people, places and things] | | | -Original Message- | From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:20:43 -0600 | Subject: Re: secure email... | | As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I will | copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies the | Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with an | acknowledgement of his/her order. | | It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site, I | followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have been | using exactly this same code since Version 3. As inept as I | am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases out | there. If you have the Server installed on a local machine | and selected install documentation them open the tag | reference and do a search for CFMAIL and password The | code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same. Works | just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise) But I | am using this with CF 5.0 server running. I agree the | documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most of | MM's documentation, | | I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH implemented. | That is it requires not only a user name, but a password in | order to send mail out. I do not have relaying turned on | and the mail server is not on the same machine as the web | site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses Win2k/Imail, | and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail and both require SMTP | AUTH. The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network. The | public web site is hosted on one of my servers. | | The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com and my | hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com | | This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail | servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to relay | or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by filtering | through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl. | | Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have an | idea that we are. | | = | Douglas White | group Manager | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.samcfug.org | = | - Original Message - | From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM | Subject: Re: secure email... | | | | Doug post a sample of code when you find it | interesting knowledge | | that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly | in any of the | | books I have sitting here... | | | | -paris | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
Re: secure email...
I've never seen this in any cf documentation and a search for cfmail and password comes up with no matches on my cf5 server documentation. Howie - Original Message - From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:20 PM Subject: Re: secure email... As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I will copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies the Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with an acknowledgement of his/her order. It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site, I followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have been using exactly this same code since Version 3. As inept as I am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases out there. If you have the Server installed on a local machine and selected install documentation them open the tag reference and do a search for CFMAIL and password The code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same.Works just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise) But I am using this with CF 5.0 server running. I agree the documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most of MM's documentation, I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH implemented. That is it requires not only a user name, but a password in order to send mail out. I do not have relaying turned on and the mail server is not on the same machine as the web site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses Win2k/Imail, and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail and both require SMTP AUTH. The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network. The public web site is hosted on one of my servers. The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com and my hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to relay or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by filtering through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl. Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have an idea that we are. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
Re: secure email...
So through Doug's ommission: The CFMAILPARAM that I hardly recognized as existing allows you to do additional mail things specific to your server and the RFC pertinent to this sorts of stuff... Doug had sent one code sample around this weekend that provided the reply to functionality CF lacks through the very flexible CFMAILPARAM tag... Doug and I exchanged some emails on this authorization... there are serveral forms.. the SMTP AUTH he refers to in this thread is a one password for all users period.. its a server setting on most decent mail servers... I haven't the syntax or exacts on it.. but I assume when Doug free a block of time and pulls the code you will be able to extract it... thats how I learned about the reply to ability... CFMAILPARAM doesn't get enough airtime... -paris Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:39:05 -0600 Subject: Re: secure email... Yes it is = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Doug, is this SMTP auth a feature through CFMAILPARAM as the reply to | was we talked about? | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] | [connecting people, places and things] | | | -Original Message- | From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:20:43 -0600 | Subject: Re: secure email... | | As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I will | copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies the | Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with an | acknowledgement of his/her order. | | It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site, I | followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have been | using exactly this same code since Version 3. As inept as I | am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases out | there. If you have the Server installed on a local machine | and selected install documentation them open the tag | reference and do a search for CFMAIL and password The | code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same. Works | just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise) But I | am using this with CF 5.0 server running. I agree the | documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most of | MM's documentation, | | I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH implemented. | That is it requires not only a user name, but a password in | order to send mail out. I do not have relaying turned on | and the mail server is not on the same machine as the web | site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses Win2k/Imail, | and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail and both require SMTP | AUTH. The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network. The | public web site is hosted on one of my servers. | | The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com and my | hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com | | This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail | servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to relay | or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by filtering | through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl. | | Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have an | idea that we are. | | = | Douglas White | group Manager | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.samcfug.org | = | - Original Message - | From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM | Subject: Re: secure email... | | | | Doug post a sample of code when you find it | interesting knowledge | | that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly | in any of the | | books I have sitting here... | | | | -paris | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: secure email...
You can log in to an smtp server with a mail message header?? This I gotta see. :) --Matt-- -- Original Message -- from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:39:05 -0600 Yes it is = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:25 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Doug, is this SMTP auth a feature through CFMAILPARAM as the reply to | was we talked about? | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] | [connecting people, places and things] | | | -Original Message- | From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 14:20:43 -0600 | Subject: Re: secure email... | | As soon as I get this persistent client taken care of I will | copy the code from my shopping cart page that notifies the | Client of a secure order, and notifies the Customer with an | acknowledgement of his/her order. | | It is Pure CF I assure you and when developing the site, I | followed the instructions in the Documentation - I have been | using exactly this same code since Version 3. As inept as I | am with CF I am surprised at all the doubting thomases out | there. If you have the Server installed on a local machine | and selected install documentation them open the tag | reference and do a search for CFMAIL and password The | code for CFPOP and CFMAIL works exactly the same. Works | just fine with CFMX Pro, (I do not have enterprise) But I | am using this with CF 5.0 server running. I agree the | documentation is not that clear, but it conforms to most of | MM's documentation, | | I run my own mail server, and it has SMTP AUTH implemented. | That is it requires not only a user name, but a password in | order to send mail out. I do not have relaying turned on | and the mail server is not on the same machine as the web | site, in fact I run two mail servers, one uses Win2k/Imail, | and the other uses RedHat/Sendmail and both require SMTP | AUTH. The shopping cart is hosted on a remote network. The | public web site is hosted on one of my servers. | | The web site is http://www.strictlyhodaka.com and my | hosting company is at http://www.clickdoug.com | | This was implemented a long time ago, because both mail | servers are constantly being hammered by attempts to relay | or spam, and I have them effectively blocked, by filtering | through the ORDB database and spamcop.bl. | | Maybe we are not talking about the same thing, but I have an | idea that we are. | | = | Douglas White | group Manager | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.samcfug.org | = | - Original Message - | From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:38 PM | Subject: Re: secure email... | | | | Doug post a sample of code when you find it | interesting knowledge | | that isn't well spread/documented and not covered directly | in any of the | | books I have sitting here... | | | | -paris | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: secure email...
Matt Robertson wrote: You can log in to an smtp server with a mail message header?? If I remember the RFC right, one form of authentication is an extension of the envelope from where you just add a space and a password after the From. Considering the envelope from is copied from the from attribute of cfmail that part might just be possible. You have to subsequently reset the From inside the actual headers using an additional cfmailparam so the From in the mail headers becomes a valid address and recipients don't see the password, but in theory it works (if you can make sure the mailer uses EHLO instead of HELO, which I couldn't). This I gotta see. :) Second. If this works I doubt it is portable to MX because the From address has to be a valid email address so you can't add a password to it, but the theoretical possibility is there. Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
RE: secure email...
Hey Doug, you there? -- Josh Trefethen :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. -Original Message- From: Josh Trefethen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 1:29 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: secure email... I was thinking the same thing... There is no reference to a log in and password in your example...what am I missing? -- Josh Trefethen :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: secure email... Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 I don't get it. Your code sample shows no username or password parms anywhere. I've checked the CF docs and there is no such support for what you describe in MX. I don't have 5.0 docs handy. What am I missing? fyi cfparaming in a message-id is another good idea alongside reply-to. Both help keep some anti-spam systems (like Declude) from flagging the message fo poor formatting. cfmailparam name=Message-ID value=#CreateUUID()#@#attributes.EmailServer# --- Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - Retail http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools --- -- Original Message -- from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:09:30 -0600 I imagine you can pass just about any variable you want to, however, it might be smart to try in some way to validate that the reply to is a valid email address or to discard the email completely. One of the advantages I discovered using the REPLYTO is that when the addressee had a vacation reply or auto-responder set up, it will not go into a mail loop. Those make sys admins very mad at you. I am trying to write a custom tag that will do a SMTP verify, to try to catch bad email addresses, but it is not yet ready for prime time :-) For those that were talking about using Linux, I have been successfully using Sendmail and with Mailman to support the mailing lists. (Imail on Windows has all this built-in) but am in the process of switching the Linux mail server to Postfix, which is an all-in-one package that will handle email, list server, and web mail, and WebMin for remote administration. Both my Imail and my sendmail servers are high volume, as I support free hosting for User groups, and their mail lists. Rarely is email taking longer than one to two minutes to deliver, and in those cases, it is usually a reluctant receiving mail server that causes the delay. Hotmail is the worst offender, but right in there is Verizon.net, and earthlink. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Doug, | | I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a parameterized value .. | pretty cool was to roll in the reply-to... | | Are you aware of any list or decision on what values can be used (ie: | does CF have open architecture to handle and pass any value like that | which might be SMTP standards compliant or did CF folks just allow a few | like this)... | | IMplemented that reply-to workaround on our mail to friend feature.. | very cool.. thanks a bunch! | | | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] | [connecting people, places and things] | | | -Original Message- | From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:14:57 -0600 | Subject: Re: secure email... | | cfmail from=#notifyemail# to=#form.EMAIL# Subject=#storename# | Order Dear #form.Name#, | | Thank you for your order. The total charge to your #form.USER7# was | #TRIM(NumberFormat(form.USER5,$999,999,999.99))#. | | | Sincerely, | #storename# Customer Service Staff | /cfmail | | also: | | HTML | HEAD |TITLESending Your Greeting/title | /head | BODY | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT= | CFSET NOW=#DateFormat(Now(),-mm-dd)# | #TimeFormat(Now(),HH:mm:ss)# | | CFMAIL server
Re: secure email...
Paris Lundis wrote: I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support any login and password login type stuff... Routers block incoming connections on port 25 to all but 2 IP addresses. On these IP addresses 2 mail gateways are running, which have correct anti-relay, anti-spam and anti-virus measures installed. Via an administrative system people can enter domains they want to receive mail for behind the gateways. Based on MX records with a higher priority the mailgateways are set up as fail-over servers. Outgoing mail is not protected in any way, but since no illegal incoming mail is possible that is no problem (provided you can handle anybody inside your network using an AUP with sufficient options for litigation). Jochem ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
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I was thinking the same thing... There is no reference to a log in and password in your example...what am I missing? -- Josh Trefethen :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. -Original Message- From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 10:02 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: secure email... Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 I don't get it. Your code sample shows no username or password parms anywhere. I've checked the CF docs and there is no such support for what you describe in MX. I don't have 5.0 docs handy. What am I missing? fyi cfparaming in a message-id is another good idea alongside reply-to. Both help keep some anti-spam systems (like Declude) from flagging the message fo poor formatting. cfmailparam name=Message-ID value=#CreateUUID()#@#attributes.EmailServer# --- Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc. http://mysecretbase.com - Retail http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools --- -- Original Message -- from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:09:30 -0600 I imagine you can pass just about any variable you want to, however, it might be smart to try in some way to validate that the reply to is a valid email address or to discard the email completely. One of the advantages I discovered using the REPLYTO is that when the addressee had a vacation reply or auto-responder set up, it will not go into a mail loop. Those make sys admins very mad at you. I am trying to write a custom tag that will do a SMTP verify, to try to catch bad email addresses, but it is not yet ready for prime time :-) For those that were talking about using Linux, I have been successfully using Sendmail and with Mailman to support the mailing lists. (Imail on Windows has all this built-in) but am in the process of switching the Linux mail server to Postfix, which is an all-in-one package that will handle email, list server, and web mail, and WebMin for remote administration. Both my Imail and my sendmail servers are high volume, as I support free hosting for User groups, and their mail lists. Rarely is email taking longer than one to two minutes to deliver, and in those cases, it is usually a reluctant receiving mail server that causes the delay. Hotmail is the worst offender, but right in there is Verizon.net, and earthlink. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:31 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Doug, | | I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a parameterized value .. | pretty cool was to roll in the reply-to... | | Are you aware of any list or decision on what values can be used (ie: | does CF have open architecture to handle and pass any value like that | which might be SMTP standards compliant or did CF folks just allow a few | like this)... | | IMplemented that reply-to workaround on our mail to friend feature.. | very cool.. thanks a bunch! | | | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] | [connecting people, places and things] | | | -Original Message- | From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:14:57 -0600 | Subject: Re: secure email... | | cfmail from=#notifyemail# to=#form.EMAIL# Subject=#storename# | Order Dear #form.Name#, | | Thank you for your order. The total charge to your #form.USER7# was | #TRIM(NumberFormat(form.USER5,$999,999,999.99))#. | | | Sincerely, | #storename# Customer Service Staff | /cfmail | | also: | | HTML | HEAD |TITLESending Your Greeting/title | /head | BODY | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT= | CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT= | CFSET NOW=#DateFormat(Now(),-mm-dd)# | #TimeFormat(Now(),HH:mm:ss)# | | CFMAIL server=mail.your.domain | | TO=#form.to_email# | From = [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject = Web Page from #form.from_name# | cfmailparam name=Reply-To value =#form.from_email# | Hello #form.to_name#! | | #form.from_name# sent you this page from the | [yourdomainname] web site | | | Comments from #form.from_name#: | #form.comments
RE: secure email...
paris. what mail server are you using? we use ipswitch's imail server and that allows us to specify allowed ip addresses, we simply added the ip address of all our webservers into that list and now have no issuesF**KING SPAMMERS!! arghhh what an annoyancebut anyway, it works. tw -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: secure email... so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record time and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going to address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support any login and password login type stuff... We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition it fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email server... Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
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Storing 'IP', 'Cftoken'(if using client state management) and 'address to' database. Then checking against them based on SQL aggragate functions :) It isn't likely that user/customer would send it out to more then 20 friends... and.. it isn't likey that a user/customer would send the same e-mail to their friend more then twice. Might also be able to be done with arrays and application variables!(faster) Daniel Olivares WorldWideWebz.com Phone: (760) 268-0504 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://www.worldwidewebz.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: secure email... so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record time and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going to address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support any login and password login type stuff... We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition it fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email server... Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
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Can you take care of this using SandBox Security in MX? Since I don't administer a CF Server, I haven't run into this problem, but thought that this feature would limit the use of CF resources to defined directories and IP addresses No? Paris Lundis wrote: I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support any login and password login type stuff... ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
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Oh we were using Mdaemon and it was nice and sweet... I could pass it emails without even having a fully qualified email address in there... We have users that daily with the friend feature type incorrect emails intentionally thinking it will prevent them from being emailed anything later... In turn, our new server says with those, oh not syntax valid email address, forget you :) so their email never reaches their friend... IMail is on my list to install and test for a while... just client/company cost... Otherwise we would be there... Moving away from Mdaemon because my email volume and clients is ever increasing that especially with mailing list broadcasts and such, a good SMTP spooler needs to replace Mdaemon's not so speedy one... outside of that issue Mdaemon has server us well for years. Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0500 Subject: RE: secure email... paris. what mail server are you using? we use ipswitch's imail server and that allows us to specify allowed ip addresses, we simply added the ip address of all our webservers into that list and now have no issuesF**KING SPAMMERS!! arghhh what an annoyancebut anyway, it works. tw -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: secure email... so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record time and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going to address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support any login and password login type stuff... We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition it fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email server... Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
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Paris Lundis wrote: stuff about relaying mail Paris, What you really need to do is configure your email server, whatever it is, to only allow relay in the following scenarios: #1 - authenticated SMTP from anywhere #2 - When the user has recently authenticated for POP3 mail retrieval #3 - From trusted IP addresses (ie, your mail server). I've got qmail set up with only #2 and #3. #3 is the key to allowing Cold Fusion relay mail without a problem. On another system I use, we are running MDaemon for NT and we do a very similar setup, using options #2 and #3 to prevent unwanted relay but still allowing CF to relay. If you've got a mail server that doesn't support the POP3 before SMTP and you don't know the IP addresses of your users that are relaying mail... get a new mail server. :) I pray for you if you are using InterMail Post.Office. - Rick Root ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
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overall i have had a great experience with iMail Unlimited. its easy as heck to admin, handle unlimited users, and for the cost it was the best choice for us. tw -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: secure email... Oh we were using Mdaemon and it was nice and sweet... I could pass it emails without even having a fully qualified email address in there... We have users that daily with the friend feature type incorrect emails intentionally thinking it will prevent them from being emailed anything later... In turn, our new server says with those, oh not syntax valid email address, forget you :) so their email never reaches their friend... IMail is on my list to install and test for a while... just client/company cost... Otherwise we would be there... Moving away from Mdaemon because my email volume and clients is ever increasing that especially with mailing list broadcasts and such, a good SMTP spooler needs to replace Mdaemon's not so speedy one... outside of that issue Mdaemon has server us well for years. Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0500 Subject: RE: secure email... paris. what mail server are you using? we use ipswitch's imail server and that allows us to specify allowed ip addresses, we simply added the ip address of all our webservers into that list and now have no issuesF**KING SPAMMERS!! arghhh what an annoyancebut anyway, it works. tw -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: secure email... so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record time and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going to address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support any login and password login type stuff... We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition it fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email server... Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
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I really like my mailserver, qmail -- http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ It works great and is, so far vary secure. If you know anything about linux, it is not too difficult to administer...I use PLESK for my admin tools and it is a breeze. -- Josh Trefethen :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:21 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: secure email... Oh we were using Mdaemon and it was nice and sweet... I could pass it emails without even having a fully qualified email address in there... We have users that daily with the friend feature type incorrect emails intentionally thinking it will prevent them from being emailed anything later... In turn, our new server says with those, oh not syntax valid email address, forget you :) so their email never reaches their friend... IMail is on my list to install and test for a while... just client/company cost... Otherwise we would be there... Moving away from Mdaemon because my email volume and clients is ever increasing that especially with mailing list broadcasts and such, a good SMTP spooler needs to replace Mdaemon's not so speedy one... outside of that issue Mdaemon has server us well for years. Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0500 Subject: RE: secure email... paris. what mail server are you using? we use ipswitch's imail server and that allows us to specify allowed ip addresses, we simply added the ip address of all our webservers into that list and now have no issuesF**KING SPAMMERS!! arghhh what an annoyancebut anyway, it works. tw -Original Message- From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: secure email... so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record time and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going to address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support any login and password login type stuff... We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition it fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email server... Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
Re: secure email...
Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled, and crank out emails from several CF applications on varied Virtual domains on my servers. I don't have to create allow relay for entries at all, as I don't consider that very secure. SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such as KLEZ infected emails as well. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = | | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support | any login and password login type stuff... | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm
RE: secure email...
Imail is reliable, and fairly stable. It has some decent features, and works well under a fair load. We've used it for many years, and like it. Although, it seems to be getting more and more expensive. We are also running MailMax from www.smartmax.com on a couple of servers. Their web-based interface is prettier than the Imail one (even with KillerWebMail templates installed and modified), but it lacks some of the features of Imail's web mail interface language. Just my .02... | -Original Message- | From: Josh Trefethen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:37 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: secure email... | | | I really like my mailserver, qmail -- http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ | | It works great and is, so far vary secure. If you know | anything about linux, it is not too difficult to | administer...I use PLESK for my admin tools and it is a breeze. | | -- | Josh Trefethen | | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. | | | -Original Message- | From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:21 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: secure email... | | | Oh we were using Mdaemon and it was nice and sweet... I could pass it | emails without even having a fully qualified email address in there... | | We have users that daily with the friend feature type | incorrect emails | intentionally thinking it will prevent them from being | emailed anything | later... In turn, our new server says with those, oh not syntax valid | email address, forget you :) so their email never reaches their | friend... | | IMail is on my list to install and test for a while... just | client/company cost... Otherwise we would be there... Moving | away from | Mdaemon because my email volume and clients is ever increasing that | especially with mailing list broadcasts and such, a good SMTP spooler | needs to replace Mdaemon's not so speedy one... outside of that issue | Mdaemon has server us well for years. | | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the | present] [connecting people, places and things] | | | -Original Message- | From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0500 | Subject: RE: secure email... | | paris. | | what mail server are you using? | we use ipswitch's imail server and that allows us | to specify allowed ip addresses, we simply added the | ip address of all our webservers into that list and | now have no issuesF**KING SPAMMERS!! arghhh what an | annoyancebut anyway, it works. | | tw | | -Original Message- | From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: secure email... | | | so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled | relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in | record time | and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going | to | address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... | | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL | doesn't support | any login and password login type stuff... | | We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly | troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our | servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every | definition it | fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly | closed email | server... | | Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] | [connecting people, places and things] | | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: secure email...
What the syntax for this? I have a 4.5 box here and 5.0... I know of 4.5 it doesn't exist I looked up docs on MX at Macromedia's site and didn't see any such syntax in their command reference :) -paris Paris Lundis Founder Areaindex, L.L.C. http://www.areaindex.com http://www.pubcrawler.com 412-292-3135 [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] [connecting people, places and things] -Original Message- From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0600 Subject: Re: secure email... Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled, and crank out emails from several CF applications on varied Virtual domains on my servers. I don't have to create allow relay for entries at all, as I don't consider that very secure. SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such as KLEZ infected emails as well. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = | | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support | any login and password login type stuff... | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: secure email...
There are attributes for a login and password in CFMAIL? It isn't in the docs. Here's a snippet from the docs of cfmail in cf5.0: cfmail to = recipient from = sender cc = copy_to Bcc = blind_copy_to subject = msg_subject type = msg_type maxRows = max_msgs MIMEAttach = path query = query_name group = query_column groupCaseSensitive = Yes or No startRow = query_row server = servername port = port_ID mailerID = headerid timeout = seconds Is it something you can set with cfmailparam? -- Josh Trefethen :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. -Original Message- From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: secure email... Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled, and crank out emails from several CF applications on varied Virtual domains on my servers. I don't have to create allow relay for entries at all, as I don't consider that very secure. SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such as KLEZ infected emails as well. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = | | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support | any login and password login type stuff... | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
Re: secure email...
Adding to my own post - I also have web sites and shopping carts on Red Hat Linux boxes, and it uses Sendmail, which can also be configured to use SMTP AUTH which allows relaying by authenticated users (username and password) using CFMAIL. I used to use the heavyweight MS Exchange, and it also supports SMTP AUTH. Check your tag reference library in CF, it supports all of the above. I suggest using extreme caution about adding to the allow relaying for entries, because that opens the door to spammers who can spoof the sending IP number and funnel their spew through your server. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = - Original Message - From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 7:48 PM Subject: Re: secure email... | Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and | Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 | | I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled, and | crank out emails from several CF applications on varied | Virtual domains on my servers. I don't have to create | allow relay for entries at all, as I don't consider that | very secure. SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such as | KLEZ infected emails as well. | | = | Douglas White | group Manager | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.samcfug.org | = | | | | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from | Cold Fusion | | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL | doesn't support | | any login and password login type stuff... | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
RE: secure email...
cool, glad to know those settings on the SMTP AUTH. ill have to play with that! tw -Original Message- From: samcfug [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: secure email... Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0 I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled, and crank out emails from several CF applications on varied Virtual domains on my servers. I don't have to create allow relay for entries at all, as I don't consider that very secure. SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such as KLEZ infected emails as well. = Douglas White group Manager mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.samcfug.org = | | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support | any login and password login type stuff... | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm
RE: secure email...
I agree...I used to use Imail, but installing linux on a box and running qmail is free (if you have a box to put it on). I have really enjoyed working with linux and open source software...it rocks! -- Josh Trefethen :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. -Original Message- From: Lee Fuller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:49 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: RE: secure email... Imail is reliable, and fairly stable. It has some decent features, and works well under a fair load. We've used it for many years, and like it. Although, it seems to be getting more and more expensive. We are also running MailMax from www.smartmax.com on a couple of servers. Their web-based interface is prettier than the Imail one (even with KillerWebMail templates installed and modified), but it lacks some of the features of Imail's web mail interface language. Just my .02... | -Original Message- | From: Josh Trefethen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:37 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: secure email... | | | I really like my mailserver, qmail -- http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ | | It works great and is, so far vary secure. If you know | anything about linux, it is not too difficult to | administer...I use PLESK for my admin tools and it is a breeze. | | -- | Josh Trefethen | | :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. | ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. | | | -Original Message- | From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:21 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: RE: secure email... | | | Oh we were using Mdaemon and it was nice and sweet... I could pass it | emails without even having a fully qualified email address in there... | | We have users that daily with the friend feature type | incorrect emails | intentionally thinking it will prevent them from being | emailed anything | later... In turn, our new server says with those, oh not syntax valid | email address, forget you :) so their email never reaches their | friend... | | IMail is on my list to install and test for a while... just | client/company cost... Otherwise we would be there... Moving | away from | Mdaemon because my email volume and clients is ever increasing that | especially with mailing list broadcasts and such, a good SMTP spooler | needs to replace Mdaemon's not so speedy one... outside of that issue | Mdaemon has server us well for years. | | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the | present] [connecting people, places and things] | | | -Original Message- | From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:13:43 -0500 | Subject: RE: secure email... | | paris. | | what mail server are you using? | we use ipswitch's imail server and that allows us | to specify allowed ip addresses, we simply added the | ip address of all our webservers into that list and | now have no issuesF**KING SPAMMERS!! arghhh what an | annoyancebut anyway, it works. | | tw | | -Original Message- | From: Paris Lundis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] | Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:04 PM | To: CF-Talk | Subject: secure email... | | | so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled | relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in | record time | and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going | to address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... | | I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL | doesn't support | any login and password login type stuff... | | We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly | troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our | servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every | definition it | fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly | closed email | server... | | Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) | | Paris Lundis | Founder | Areaindex, L.L.C. | http://www.areaindex.com | http://www.pubcrawler.com | 412-292-3135 | [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present] | [connecting people, places and things] | | | | | | ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http
Re: secure email...
Josh Trefethen wrote: I really like my mailserver, qmail -- http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ It works great and is, so far vary secure. If you know anything about linux, it is not too difficult to administer...I use PLESK for my admin tools and it is a breeze. Qmail is a great little mail server, but it's definately not for the faint of heart. I myself have it handling email for virtual domains, my users can manage their own email accounts, mailing lists, aliases, forwards, etc, all through a web-based interface. I'm hooked into RBL and ORDB and Spamcop for spam prevention, I've got a nice integrated web-based email package, and best of all it's all FREE :) Sorry for the way off topic post. =) - Rick ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: secure email...
I use the IIS SMTP server that sits on the same server that CF is running on, and set it to only allow connections from 127.0.0.1 Keeping the whole process one one server makes it easier to debug a possible email problem too. If the email isn't in the iis badmail or the cf undlvr folders, it left our server, no if's and's or but's. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Saturday, November 16, 2002, 8:03:42 PM, you wrote: PL so we are in the process of changing email servers and we toggled PL relaying on and somehow the malicious spammers found it in record time PL and started bombing us with email to broadcast... That we are going to PL address on Monday in litigation against the sending companies... PL I was wondering how people were dealing with email from Cold Fusion PL applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL doesn't support PL any login and password login type stuff... PL We have applications like mail to a friend that are particularly PL troublesome where the origin is an email that is not local to our PL servers and the recipient isn't local either... by every definition it PL fits the whole looks like spam definition to a properly closed email PL server... PL Interested in hearing what everyone is doing :) ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm
RE: secure email...
Amen brother! -- Josh Trefethen :[ Exciteworks, Inc ]::[ http://exciteworks.com ]:. ::[ cf hosting on linux ]::[ consulting ]::[ expertise ]::. -Original Message- From: Rick Root [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 5:58 PM To: CF-Talk Subject: Re: secure email... Josh Trefethen wrote: I really like my mailserver, qmail -- http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ It works great and is, so far vary secure. If you know anything about linux, it is not too difficult to administer...I use PLESK for my admin tools and it is a breeze. Qmail is a great little mail server, but it's definately not for the faint of heart. I myself have it handling email for virtual domains, my users can manage their own email accounts, mailing lists, aliases, forwards, etc, all through a web-based interface. I'm hooked into RBL and ORDB and Spamcop for spam prevention, I've got a nice integrated web-based email package, and best of all it's all FREE :) Sorry for the way off topic post. =) - Rick ~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribeforumid=4 FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com
Re: secure email...
cfmail from=#notifyemail# to=#form.EMAIL#
Subject=#storename# Order
Dear #form.Name#,
Thank you for your order. The total charge to your
#form.USER7# was
#TRIM(NumberFormat(form.USER5,$999,999,999.99))#.
Sincerely,
#storename# Customer Service Staff
/cfmail
also:
HTML
HEAD
TITLESending Your Greeting/TITLE
/HEAD
BODY
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
CFSET NOW=#DateFormat(Now(),-mm-dd)#
#TimeFormat(Now(),HH:mm:ss)#
CFMAIL server=mail.your.domain
TO=#form.to_email#
From = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject = Web Page from #form.from_name#
cfmailparam name=Reply-To value =#form.from_email#
Hello #form.to_name#!
#form.from_name# sent you this page from the
[yourdomainname] web site
Comments from #form.from_name#:
#form.comments# on this date #now#
/CFMAIL
H1Message Sent/H1
CFOUTPUT
PYour message to #Form.to_name# has been sent
/P
/CFOUTPUT
CFQUERY NAME=MailSend DATASOURCE=church7
DBTYPE=ODBC
insert into tellafriend_log (sending_date, from_email,
from_name, to_email,
to_name, message_comments)
values ('#NOW#', '#form.from_email#', '#form.from_name#',
'#form.to_email#',
'#form.to_name#', '#form.comments#')
/CFQUERY
cflocation url=default.cfm
/BODY
/HTML
=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: secure email...
| What the syntax for this? I have a 4.5 box here and
5.0... I know of
| 4.5 it doesn't exist
|
| I looked up docs on MX at Macromedia's site and didn't see
any such
| syntax in their command reference :)
|
| -paris
|
| Paris Lundis
| Founder
| Areaindex, L.L.C.
| http://www.areaindex.com
| http://www.pubcrawler.com
| 412-292-3135
| [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
present]
| [connecting people, places and things]
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0600
| Subject: Re: secure email...
|
| Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and
| Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0
|
| I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled,
and
| crank out emails from several CF applications on varied
| Virtual domains on my servers. I don't have to create
| allow relay for entries at all, as I don't consider
that
| very secure. SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such
as
| KLEZ infected emails as well.
|
| =
| Douglas White
| group Manager
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.samcfug.org
| =
| |
| | I was wondering how people were dealing with email
from
| Cold Fusion
| | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL
| doesn't support
| | any login and password login type stuff...
| |
|
|
|
~|
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Re: secure email...
Doug,
I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a parameterized value ..
pretty cool was to roll in the reply-to...
Are you aware of any list or decision on what values can be used (ie:
does CF have open architecture to handle and pass any value like that
which might be SMTP standards compliant or did CF folks just allow a few
like this)...
IMplemented that reply-to workaround on our mail to friend feature..
very cool.. thanks a bunch!
Paris Lundis
Founder
Areaindex, L.L.C.
http://www.areaindex.com
http://www.pubcrawler.com
412-292-3135
[finding the future in the past, passing the future in the present]
[connecting people, places and things]
-Original Message-
From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:14:57 -0600
Subject: Re: secure email...
cfmail from=#notifyemail# to=#form.EMAIL#
Subject=#storename# Order
Dear #form.Name#,
Thank you for your order. The total charge to your
#form.USER7# was
#TRIM(NumberFormat(form.USER5,$999,999,999.99))#.
Sincerely,
#storename# Customer Service Staff
/cfmail
also:
HTML
HEAD
TITLESending Your Greeting/title
/head
BODY
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
CFSET NOW=#DateFormat(Now(),-mm-dd)#
#TimeFormat(Now(),HH:mm:ss)#
CFMAIL server=mail.your.domain
TO=#form.to_email#
From = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject = Web Page from #form.from_name#
cfmailparam name=Reply-To value =#form.from_email#
Hello #form.to_name#!
#form.from_name# sent you this page from the
[yourdomainname] web site
Comments from #form.from_name#:
#form.comments# on this date #now#
/CFMAIL
H1Message Sent/h1
CFOUTPUT
PYour message to #Form.to_name# has been sent
/p
/CFOUTPUT
CFQUERY NAME=MailSend DATASOURCE=church7
DBTYPE=ODBC
insert into tellafriend_log (sending_date, from_email,
from_name, to_email,
to_name, message_comments)
values ('#NOW#', '#form.from_email#', '#form.from_name#',
'#form.to_email#',
'#form.to_name#', '#form.comments#')
/CFQUERY
cflocation url=default.cfm
/body
/html
=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 7:50 PM
Subject: Re: secure email...
| What the syntax for this? I have a 4.5 box here and
5.0... I know of
| 4.5 it doesn't exist
|
| I looked up docs on MX at Macromedia's site and didn't see
any such
| syntax in their command reference :)
|
| -paris
|
| Paris Lundis
| Founder
| Areaindex, L.L.C.
| http://www.areaindex.com
| http://www.pubcrawler.com
| 412-292-3135
| [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
present]
| [connecting people, places and things]
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 19:48:50 -0600
| Subject: Re: secure email...
|
| Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and
| Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0
|
| I use Ipswitch's Imail Ver 7.0 with SMTP AUTH enabled,
and
| crank out emails from several CF applications on varied
| Virtual domains on my servers. I don't have to create
| allow relay for entries at all, as I don't consider
that
| very secure. SMTP AUTH also will block spoofing, such
as
| KLEZ infected emails as well.
|
| =
| Douglas White
| group Manager
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.samcfug.org
| =
| |
| | I was wondering how people were dealing with email
from
| Cold Fusion
| | applications to respond to such issues... Since CFMAIL
| doesn't support
| | any login and password login type stuff...
| |
|
|
|
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Re: secure email...
I imagine you can pass just about any variable you want to,
however, it might be smart to try in some way to validate
that the reply to is a valid email address or to discard the
email completely.
One of the advantages I discovered using the REPLYTO is that
when the addressee had a vacation reply or auto-responder
set up, it will not go into a mail loop. Those make sys
admins very mad at you.
I am trying to write a custom tag that will do a SMTP
verify, to try to catch bad email addresses, but it is not
yet ready for prime time :-)
For those that were talking about using Linux, I have been
successfully using Sendmail and with Mailman to support the
mailing lists.
(Imail on Windows has all this built-in) but am in the
process of switching the Linux mail server to Postfix, which
is an all-in-one package that will handle email, list
server, and web mail, and WebMin for remote administration.
Both my Imail and my sendmail servers are high volume, as I
support free hosting for User groups, and their mail lists.
Rarely is email taking longer than one to two minutes to
deliver, and in those cases, it is usually a reluctant
receiving mail server that causes the delay.
Hotmail is the worst offender, but right in there is
Verizon.net, and earthlink.
=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: secure email...
| Doug,
|
| I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a
parameterized value ..
| pretty cool was to roll in the reply-to...
|
| Are you aware of any list or decision on what values can
be used (ie:
| does CF have open architecture to handle and pass any
value like that
| which might be SMTP standards compliant or did CF folks
just allow a few
| like this)...
|
| IMplemented that reply-to workaround on our mail to friend
feature..
| very cool.. thanks a bunch!
|
|
|
| Paris Lundis
| Founder
| Areaindex, L.L.C.
| http://www.areaindex.com
| http://www.pubcrawler.com
| 412-292-3135
| [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
present]
| [connecting people, places and things]
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:14:57 -0600
| Subject: Re: secure email...
|
| cfmail from=#notifyemail# to=#form.EMAIL#
| Subject=#storename# Order
| Dear #form.Name#,
|
| Thank you for your order. The total charge to your
| #form.USER7# was
| #TRIM(NumberFormat(form.USER5,$999,999,999.99))#.
|
|
| Sincerely,
| #storename# Customer Service Staff
| /cfmail
|
| also:
|
| HTML
| HEAD
|TITLESending Your Greeting/title
| /head
| BODY
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
| CFSET NOW=#DateFormat(Now(),-mm-dd)#
| #TimeFormat(Now(),HH:mm:ss)#
|
| CFMAIL server=mail.your.domain
|
| TO=#form.to_email#
| From = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject = Web Page from #form.from_name#
| cfmailparam name=Reply-To value =#form.from_email#
| Hello #form.to_name#!
|
| #form.from_name# sent you this page from the
| [yourdomainname] web site
|
|
| Comments from #form.from_name#:
| #form.comments# on this date #now#
| /CFMAIL
| H1Message Sent/h1
| CFOUTPUT
| PYour message to #Form.to_name# has been
sent
| /p
| /CFOUTPUT
|CFQUERY NAME=MailSend DATASOURCE=church7
| DBTYPE=ODBC
| insert into tellafriend_log (sending_date, from_email,
| from_name, to_email,
| to_name, message_comments)
| values ('#NOW#', '#form.from_email#',
'#form.from_name#',
| '#form.to_email#',
| '#form.to_name#', '#form.comments#')
|
|/CFQUERY
|cflocation url=default.cfm
|/body
| /html
|
|
| =
| Douglas White
| group Manager
| mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| http://www.samcfug.org
| =
| - Original Message -
| From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 7:50 PM
| Subject: Re: secure email...
|
|
| | What the syntax for this? I have a 4.5 box here and
| 5.0... I know of
| | 4.5 it doesn't exist
| |
| | I looked up docs on MX at Macromedia's site and didn't
see
| any such
| | syntax in their command reference :)
| |
| | -paris
| |
| | Paris Lundis
| | Founder
| | Areaindex, L.L.C.
| | http://www.areaindex.com
| | http://www.pubcrawler.com
| | 412-292-3135
| | [finding the future in the past, passing the future
Re: secure email...
Excuse me! But CFMAIL certainly does support Login and
Passwords when sending out email. I am using CF 5.0
I don't get it. Your code sample shows no username or password parms anywhere. I've
checked the CF docs and there is no such support for what you describe in MX. I don't
have 5.0 docs handy.
What am I missing?
fyi cfparaming in a message-id is another good idea alongside reply-to. Both help
keep some anti-spam systems (like Declude) from flagging the message fo poor
formatting.
cfmailparam name=Message-ID value=#CreateUUID()#@#attributes.EmailServer#
---
Matt Robertson, MSB Designs, Inc.
http://mysecretbase.com - Retail
http://foohbar.org - ColdFusion Tools
---
-- Original Message --
from: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 21:09:30 -0600
I imagine you can pass just about any variable you want to,
however, it might be smart to try in some way to validate
that the reply to is a valid email address or to discard the
email completely.
One of the advantages I discovered using the REPLYTO is that
when the addressee had a vacation reply or auto-responder
set up, it will not go into a mail loop. Those make sys
admins very mad at you.
I am trying to write a custom tag that will do a SMTP
verify, to try to catch bad email addresses, but it is not
yet ready for prime time :-)
For those that were talking about using Linux, I have been
successfully using Sendmail and with Mailman to support the
mailing lists.
(Imail on Windows has all this built-in) but am in the
process of switching the Linux mail server to Postfix, which
is an all-in-one package that will handle email, list
server, and web mail, and WebMin for remote administration.
Both my Imail and my sendmail servers are high volume, as I
support free hosting for User groups, and their mail lists.
Rarely is email taking longer than one to two minutes to
deliver, and in those cases, it is usually a reluctant
receiving mail server that causes the delay.
Hotmail is the worst offender, but right in there is
Verizon.net, and earthlink.
=
Douglas White
group Manager
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.samcfug.org
=
- Original Message -
From: Paris Lundis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 8:31 PM
Subject: Re: secure email...
| Doug,
|
| I see how that sample utilizes the Reply-To as a
parameterized value ..
| pretty cool was to roll in the reply-to...
|
| Are you aware of any list or decision on what values can
be used (ie:
| does CF have open architecture to handle and pass any
value like that
| which might be SMTP standards compliant or did CF folks
just allow a few
| like this)...
|
| IMplemented that reply-to workaround on our mail to friend
feature..
| very cool.. thanks a bunch!
|
|
|
| Paris Lundis
| Founder
| Areaindex, L.L.C.
| http://www.areaindex.com
| http://www.pubcrawler.com
| 412-292-3135
| [finding the future in the past, passing the future in the
present]
| [connecting people, places and things]
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: samcfug [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2002 20:14:57 -0600
| Subject: Re: secure email...
|
| cfmail from=#notifyemail# to=#form.EMAIL#
| Subject=#storename# Order
| Dear #form.Name#,
|
| Thank you for your order. The total charge to your
| #form.USER7# was
| #TRIM(NumberFormat(form.USER5,$999,999,999.99))#.
|
|
| Sincerely,
| #storename# Customer Service Staff
| /cfmail
|
| also:
|
| HTML
| HEAD
|TITLESending Your Greeting/title
| /head
| BODY
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.to_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_email DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.from_name DEFAULT=
| CFPARAM NAME=form.comments DEFAULT=
| CFSET NOW=#DateFormat(Now(),-mm-dd)#
| #TimeFormat(Now(),HH:mm:ss)#
|
| CFMAIL server=mail.your.domain
|
| TO=#form.to_email#
| From = [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Subject = Web Page from #form.from_name#
| cfmailparam name=Reply-To value =#form.from_email#
| Hello #form.to_name#!
|
| #form.from_name# sent you this page from the
| [yourdomainname] web site
|
|
| Comments from #form.from_name#:
| #form.comments# on this date #now#
| /CFMAIL
| H1Message Sent/h1
| CFOUTPUT
| PYour message to #Form.to_name# has been
sent
| /p
| /CFOUTPUT
|CFQUERY NAME=MailSend DATASOURCE=church7
| DBTYPE=ODBC
| insert into tellafriend_log (sending_date, from_email,
| from_name, to_email,
| to_name, message_comments)
| values ('#NOW#', '#form.from_email#',
'#form.from_name#',
| '#form.to_email
