[cfaussie] Re: Using CFHTTP
Hi Claude I'm guessing that you need to maintain the session. It works in the browser because the browser maintains the sesison but CFHTTP terminates the session after the 1st call. You probably need to pass the CFID/TOKEN to maintain the session. Good luck! Cheers On Apr 3, 5:55 pm, rai...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hi, I am trying to dynamically submit data to an external website that required me to log into the admin of the site to manually submit data I am able to successfully create a form page and submit the form to the path of the external site and the form data submits successfully with the form data being submitted being added to the external sites database as required When I try and e cfhttp so the posting of the form data occurs in the background without the screen loading the external sites page does not work however the cfhttp code passes successfully naturally I am using the same url in the form page as I am in the cfhttp tag. Any suggests why this would not work would be appreciated Regards Claude Raiola (B.Econ Acc; B.Hot. Mngt) Samaris Software Email: mailto:i...@trackingcentral.om.au i...@samaris.net Website: http://www.TrackingCentral.com.auwww.SAMARIS.net Mobile: 0414 228 948 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Can ColdFusion talk to AXIS 2 web services
Hi all Our web service provider has switched from AXIS 1 to AXIS 2. Can ColdFusion still talk/connect with this? Cheers Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: exit a cfc function call from a long polling request
Hi Steve I would suggest cfsetting requestTimeOut = value in seconds but I find it doesn't always time out as you would want. I had an issue once with an external web service where there was no timeout on the hosts end. I tried the cfsetting tag but found it didn't appear to work, however hopefully it will work for you. Cheers Matthew -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne November and December
Hi Peter Bear in mind that people will be going to Day 0 pre-conference workshops (CF911 for me). I'm not sure how many would be up for a day of learning and then a CFUG evening. However it does seem a waste not to run a CFUG night with an out of town presenter. Just food for thought. Cheers Matthew On Oct 13, 12:44 pm, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.com wrote: November: As you will all be aware, next month is CFObjective. (cfobjective.com.au) Hopefully most of the Melbourne CFUG folk will be attending, and in any case the normal CFUG evening would fall on Day 1 of the event, so we will be moving the CFUG to Wed 17 November, to coincide with CFObjective Day 0. Phil Haeusler and Rocket Boots are setting up a CodeWars event for the Wednesday. If this goes ahead, as seems likely, then we're suggesting that we roll CFUG into that event. For those unfamiliar with Code Wars, go to the Rocket Boots blog and drill on the Code War link at the top.http://www.rocketboots.com.au/blog/index.cfm If, for any reason Code Wars or a similar Day 0 event isn't held, then we'll hold the CFUG as normal, but on the Wed evening, and will try to get one or two of the out-of-town folk to do a presentation. December: As people are busy and starting to leave town by about mid December, we'll be organising a dinner for those of us left. Given the distractions around CFObjective in November, we'll also be drawing the software prize at the dinner in December. Your name will be entered in the draw once for each attendance at the CFUG from July, so the more times you attended, the better your chances. We won't be counting attendance at CodeWars, (too hard), nor attendance at the dinner. If you are not at the dinner and your name is drawn, you will still be eligible, and we will contact you with the details of your prize. By all means send us any feedback on this year's CFUG Melbourne. Let us know what you liked, what you didn't and what you'd like to see next year. Many thanks Peter Robertson Co-Manager Melbourne CFUG Steve Onnis Manager Melbourne CFUG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: Generating PDF from HTML
Hi Steve I tried a few tricks but I can't work it out either. I'm sure you worked out if you remove the float it works and if you use padding instead of margin it works but other than that not sure. Good luck and let us know if you find a fix? Cheers Matthew On Oct 7, 2:47 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: I have some pretty basic code for generating a PDF from HTML and the question is, does anyone know of any issues with using inline styles in the HTML? I have an image with some margin around it with some text wrapping around it which displays fine in the browser but in the PDF there is no margin and the text is hard up against the image. img style=margin:0px 10px 10px 0px; float:left; height=230 alt= src=someImage.jpg width=280 /This is some text Can anyone suggest a way to correct this? Steve === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 7.0.0.21, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.16020)http://www.pctools.com/ === -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: Really strange WebService issue.
Hi Gavin I've only skim read the thread but you shouldn't need to restart CF. You just need to refresh the WSDL reference in CFADMIN. CF caches or reads the WSDL and stores it somehow. I'm sure of it because I've had similar issues. My code only picks up the modified WSDL once I refresh it in CFADMIN. It makes sense because request and response definitions can be complex so if CF had to work this out each time you make a call it would be a big overhead. Hope that helps. Cheers Matthew On Oct 8, 1:21 pm, MrBuzzy mrbu...@gmail.com wrote: Gav, it depends on your code, but generally the wsdl is not hit on every request. Wsdl = web service description language. When you invoke a method your calling code is passing XML to the web service endpoint that is described in the wsdl. Look for soap:address ... / in the wsdl that's the actual URL that does all the work. As discussed earlier there are ways and means or re-reading the wsdl programmatically and interactively. But depending on how you write your cf application it may appear that the calling code is not seeing the new wsdl when it changes (hence your need to restart) It's actually possible to publish a web service without wsdl, in other development environments ie traditional java the wsdl is only useful during development to generate java objects. The wsdl need not exist at run time. I hope this helps in some way. I guess you will come back to your original question - why did you need to restart? Hard to say but there are a few reasons this can occur. Sent from my iPhone On 08/10/2010, at 12:42, Gavin Beau Baumanis b...@palcare.com.au wrote: Hi Again everyone, I just had a chat with Chris Velevitch and he asked me something that neither of us knew the answer to - but actually made clear to me what he was writing in his original reply. Lets just assume that the service is on a completely different box / perhaps even written in some other language. I have a CFML application consuming that service. Does my CFML application (or perhaps the underlying CFML engine) cache the WSDL at all? or is it completely re-read by the consumer every request? And neither of us know the answer - but if there is any consumer caching - could that be the cause of things not behaving? Could the underlying JVM (JRun?) be doing anything - Afterall I restarted the CF service but not the JRun service during my testing? if it mis-behaves again - I'll try restarting the JVM service too - and see if that makes any differences and write back here with any further news... But for the time being seems like I have more questions and still no answers... Thanks again to everyone for their help Gavin. On 08/10/2010, at 11:50 AM, Gavin Beau Baumanis wrote: Hi Chris, I must be wearing my fogged up glasses because I'm not sure I'm understanding you correctly / or perhaps its the way I have written it? We have multiple clients who currently have their own URL and their own source code. They are all physically on the same server using the same instance of Coldfusion. The staging server and the production server are all set up the same. Clients log into both - using the staging server for UAT and staff training. The Login service lives at a URL that resides on the staging server / staging cf instance. And basically returns a true / false for a username / password match. And also returns a struct of relevant user information (username / surname / fullname / phone / etc. Restarting Apache / CF Service / manually refreshing the WSDL / clearing the CFC and template caches (via CFAdmin) effects the service and the calling code. Thus my confusion with why that process didn't work - but completely restarting the Staging server did work. So, I suppose my confusion is - how will programatically refreshing the WSDL be any different to using the CF Admin and furthermore - why would restarting the box wholly be any different? As always, please contact me if I can be of any futher assistance. Gavin Beau Baumanis Senior Application Developer PalCare Pty. Ltd. P: +61 -3 9380 3513 M: +61 -438 545 586 E: b...@palcare.com.au W:http://palcare.com.au On 08/10/2010, at 11:15 AM, Chris Velevitch wrote: The service is indeed called by CFML code and is also on the same box as the code that is calling it. It is being used as a webservice, not a CFC call from another server. Are the production systems the same as this, i.e. the service server is on the same machine as the calling server? You say the calling server is CFML, are you planning to change the cfinvoke on the calling server to include 'refreshWSDL=yes'? The reason I ask this as it sounds like the machine restart caused the calling server to clear it's WSDL cache which in effect is the equivalent of 'refreshWSDL=yes'. Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager
[cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne August 2010: New features in Adobe ColdFusion Server 9 by Steve Onnis
Only in Australia would stubby holders be offered as a draw card :) I'd love to come but my 3 month old has decided to start teething so won't oblige me a night off. Let us know if it's recorded or there are any slides? Cheers Matthew On Aug 17, 12:21 pm, Peter Robertson pe...@p-robertson.com wrote: This presentation will cover some of the new functionality introduced in the new version of the Adobe ColdFusion Server 9 - ColdFusion 9 Goodies include: - CFSCRIPT enhancements - ColdFusion Component enhancements - UI Components - New Tags - Lucene Solr (Verity Replacement) Also we will be handing out bags of goodies with t-shirts, stubby holders, stickers, note pads and other stuff and of course pizzas. I think all of the Melbourne regulars will know Steve as our UG manager and provider of fine pizzas. Anyone who frequents CFAussie will also be aware of his regular contributions to the list. As a developer and CF hosting provider, Steve has spent years exploring ColdFusion Server and CFML, so don't miss this opportunity for a deep dive into all that is new and good in CF9. Date: Thursday 19 August 2010 Time: 6:30 PM Location: CogState Level 2 255 Bourke Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 A note on the door will provide a number to ring for access. RSVP: Please reply to this post if you are planning to attend so we know how many pizzas to order. As always, many thanks to Dale Fraser and CogState for their hospitality. We look forward to seeing you all there. Peter Robertson Co-Manager Melbourne CFUG Steve Onnis Manager Melbourne CFUG -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: WYSIWYG editors
Hi Steve I use XStandard and find it to be very good! It's pretty web standards compliant (sometime too much but it forces you to be good which isn't a bad thing). Also, the file / document upload is fantastic once you hook it up. You can use the built in ASP.NET web service but I utilised Ben Nadel's version and found integrating it a breeze. The Lite (FREE) version is pretty good but I found we need the full version (but it's pretty cheap from memory). Cheers Matthew On Aug 3, 5:12 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: What are people using these days? I have been playing with CKEditor and i must say it is a pain in the be-hind to configure for a start and then the costs for licenses are a bit rich alsoso what else? TinyMC? Anything else? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: Coding Standards
Hi Brett It would be great to see your updated version if you can publish it once your done! Cheers Matthew On Aug 3, 3:22 pm, Brett Payne-Rhodes bret...@gmail.com wrote: I've been looking at published CF coding standards and guidelines and just thought I would share this gem... Which do you think came first? http://cf.etisbew.com/home.cfm?file=codingstandards.htm or http://www.brevardcounty.us/is/webdevguide/codingstandards/cfml/cfmlg... Blatant plagarism like this makes me wonder what else they might be borrowing... If you have a public coding standard that you would like to share I'd been to hear about it. So far Sean Corfield's old CFMX coding standard athttp://livedocs.adobe.com/wtg/public/coding_standards/contents.htmllooks like the best place to start... B) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: WYSIWYG editors
I've been using Pro version for so long I can't remember but I'm pretty sure it's the web service extensions (for file/doc upload) and other toolbar buttons I needed. On Aug 4, 1:28 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Whats the difference between the free and paid versions that made you have to upgrade? -Original Message- From: Matthew [mailto:matthewbchamb...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 1:26 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: WYSIWYG editors Hi Steve I use XStandard and find it to be very good! It's pretty web standards compliant (sometime too much but it forces you to be good which isn't a bad thing). Also, the file / document upload is fantastic once you hook it up. You can use the built in ASP.NET web service but I utilised Ben Nadel's version and found integrating it a breeze. The Lite (FREE) version is pretty good but I found we need the full version (but it's pretty cheap from memory). Cheers Matthew On Aug 3, 5:12 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: What are people using these days? I have been playing with CKEditor and i must say it is a pain in the be-hind to configure for a start and then the costs for licenses are a bit rich alsoso what else? TinyMC? Anything else? Steve -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group athttp://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: CF Query Timeout
@Claude: I know I'm a little late to help but just thought I'd mention experiences. Once I found the the CFQUERY timeout error was mis- leading. I had a web-service call prior to a CFQUERY and for some reason CF was blaming the query. I proved this by pulling the query out and putting some other action in and it blamed that. All I'm saying is, look at the code before the query such as you Excel/XML read. Looks like Steve's extended timeout sort you out anyway. Cheers Matthew On Jun 9, 10:43 pm, rai...@ozemail.com.au wrote: Hi Is there a way that I have prevent the cfquery from timing out The sit is running on cf8 server in a shared hosting environment I am creating a complex excel spreadsheet using cfxml variable=varname that holds the xml for up to 20 different worksheets created on the fly. Given the volume of records in each worksheet often I generate the error Error Occurred While Processing Request The request has exceeded the allowable time limit Tag: CFQUERY I have tried to specify the timeout value in each query to a large amount of time however the timeout error still generates within 1 minute of the page starting to process the data. I have ensured that I am running queries of queries where possible to prevent unnecessary queries to the sql database however this seems not to have had any effect. If anyone has some suggestion I would be grateful. Regards Claude Raiola (B.Econ Acc; B.Hot. Mngt) Samaris Software Email: mailto:i...@trackingcentral.om.au i...@samaris.net Website: http://www.TrackingCentral.com.auwww.SAMARIS.net Mobile: 0414 228 948 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en.
[cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne for 2010 (Post CFDrinks 3 Feb)
Hi Peter / Dale Peter: Thanks for taking over the reins and good luck with running CFUG Melbourne. Thanks to Mark for all your efforts in the Melbourne (Oz) community. Not wanting to be negative but Dale has asked for feedback so here's mine (hopefully it is constructive). I've only attended a few times and the main reason I haven't made the effort to come back is because the running of the session was disorganised. On one occasion I turned up and no one appeared to know if a session was on (yet it was broadcast on this list). Eventually people turned up and finally at 8 or 8.30 it kicked off and I think we finished at 10 or later. I was a new dad at the time and depraved of sleep so didn't absorb a lot that late at night. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that CFUG is voluntarily run and it takes up a lot of time organising meetings however for me to attend I'd like to see it run on time, have a clear topic and aim to finish on time. So those who came for info get what they're after and the rest can hang around for a drink. As for topics, I'd like to see more advanced topics covered. Even beginners can take a lot from an advanced subject. At worst it all goes over their head but you'd be surprised how much rings a bell when you go learn it on your own. Subjects I'd love to see covered would be: 1. CF Admin / JVM optimisation / tunning 2. Crash/timeout/hang diagnosis and repair with FusionReactor/ SeeFusion/MAT, analysing heap dumps, stack traces etc. 3. CF OOP (I'm thinking more architecture then frameworks i.e. “How to avoid an anaemic domain model”, writing code to unit tests) 4. Software development (version control, bug management, Ant) As for Flex: it may be a good idea for boosting numbers but if I'm completely selfish I'd much rather have advance CF stuff covered. That's my 2c, I hope it helps. Cheers Matthew On Feb 4, 4:04 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Good summary Peter, I would like to hear from people on this list who either have never attend the user group or rarely attend. What would it take to get you to a user group, or why don't you attend. Is it location, time, content, other? Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://learncf.comhttp://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Robertson Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 3:06 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] CFUG Melbourne for 2010 (Post CFDrinks 3 Feb) As planned (9 of us if I can count) gathered last night for CFDrinks at Fad Gallery in Melbourne. Thanks to all who attended and to Rocket Boots for picking up the bar tab. By the way, for those of you who missed this piece of news, Mark Mandel has stepped down from co-managing the Melbourne CFUG and I have stepped in to work with Steve Onnis for this year. Mark, thanks for all your hard work, and we look forward to seeing you as often as you're able to make it to the CFUGs. Steve and my roles will be very roughly divided between communication, booking speakers, etc (me) and general logistics and sponsorship (Steve). Aside from drinking, we discussed where the Melbourne CFUG might go this year and resolved that there will not be a formal CFUG this month, and that we'll kick off in earnest for March. Other than that, no hard-and-fast decisions were made as we'd like to involve as many of you as possible in shaping the group. Included in the things we tossed around were: - VENUE: Dale on behalf of Cog State once again generously offered their board room. Cog State will be moving into the CBD later in the year, so this would satisfy centrality. Would people prefer a room at a bar (provided noise levels, suitable projection, etc could be managed)? - SCOPE: Given the demise of both the Adobe and Flex UGs here in Melbourne, should we provide coverage across the Adobe dev space and incorporate at least Flex? There was a general feeling that this would bring benefits to both camps. - FORMAT: Various formats were kicked around, including 1 main presentation plus discussion, 2 presentations, 1 main plus 1 small presentation, etc. Some of us would also like a casual, social opportunity to have a drink and talk afterward. - SPEAKERS / TOPICS: As always, we'll be looking for people prepared to present on a topic of interest. Please put yourself forward if you'd like to offer. We'll also be asking you what sorts of topics you'd all like covered. Steve Onnis and I will be organising a survey shortly to get a clear handle on what people want. In the meantime, your input here would be very welcome. Cheers Peter -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaus...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from
[cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne for 2010 (Post CFDrinks 3 Feb)
Hi Dale I personally feel that 7pm is too late. 6pm would be too earlier for some people so I'd go for 6.30. But lets see what others have to say. Perhaps the best way to get feedback would be to run a survey? The survey could include questions on Time, Location, Topics, Should we merge with Flex, Who should supply the beer etc Cheers Matthew On Feb 5, 3:06 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Matt Thanks for the feedback. I don’t think I have been to a meeting that kicked off that late.but anyways... We will certainly take your feedback on board and appreciate you taking the time to write all that Steve -Original Message- From: Matthew [mailto:matthewbchamb...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, 5 February 2010 2:56 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: CFUG Melbourne for 2010 (Post CFDrinks 3 Feb) Hi Peter / Dale Peter: Thanks for taking over the reins and good luck with running CFUG Melbourne. Thanks to Mark for all your efforts in the Melbourne (Oz) community. Not wanting to be negative but Dale has asked for feedback so here's mine (hopefully it is constructive). I've only attended a few times and the main reason I haven't made the effort to come back is because the running of the session was disorganised. On one occasion I turned up and no one appeared to know if a session was on (yet it was broadcast on this list). Eventually people turned up and finally at 8 or 8.30 it kicked off and I think we finished at 10 or later. I was a new dad at the time and depraved of sleep so didn't absorb a lot that late at night. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate that CFUG is voluntarily run and it takes up a lot of time organising meetings however for me to attend I'd like to see it run on time, have a clear topic and aim to finish on time. So those who came for info get what they're after and the rest can hang around for a drink. As for topics, I'd like to see more advanced topics covered. Even beginners can take a lot from an advanced subject. At worst it all goes over their head but you'd be surprised how much rings a bell when you go learn it on your own. Subjects I'd love to see covered would be: 1. CF Admin / JVM optimisation / tunning 2. Crash/timeout/hang diagnosis and repair with FusionReactor/ SeeFusion/MAT, analysing heap dumps, stack traces etc. 3. CF OOP (I'm thinking more architecture then frameworks i.e. “How to avoid an anaemic domain model”, writing code to unit tests) 4. Software development (version control, bug management, Ant) As for Flex: it may be a good idea for boosting numbers but if I'm completely selfish I'd much rather have advance CF stuff covered. That's my 2c, I hope it helps. Cheers Matthew On Feb 4, 4:04 pm, Dale Fraser d...@fraser.id.au wrote: Good summary Peter, I would like to hear from people on this list who either have never attend the user group or rarely attend. What would it take to get you to a user group, or why don't you attend. Is it location, time, content, other? Regards Dale Fraser http://dale.fraser.id.auhttp://learncf.comhttp://flexcf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Peter Robertson Sent: Thursday, 4 February 2010 3:06 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] CFUG Melbourne for 2010 (Post CFDrinks 3 Feb) As planned (9 of us if I can count) gathered last night for CFDrinks at Fad Gallery in Melbourne. Thanks to all who attended and to Rocket Boots for picking up the bar tab. By the way, for those of you who missed this piece of news, Mark Mandel has stepped down from co-managing the Melbourne CFUG and I have stepped in to work with Steve Onnis for this year. Mark, thanks for all your hard work, and we look forward to seeing you as often as you're able to make it to the CFUGs. Steve and my roles will be very roughly divided between communication, booking speakers, etc (me) and general logistics and sponsorship (Steve). Aside from drinking, we discussed where the Melbourne CFUG might go this year and resolved that there will not be a formal CFUG this month, and that we'll kick off in earnest for March. Other than that, no hard-and-fast decisions were made as we'd like to involve as many of you as possible in shaping the group. Included in the things we tossed around were: - VENUE: Dale on behalf of Cog State once again generously offered their board room. Cog State will be moving into the CBD later in the year, so this would satisfy centrality. Would people prefer a room at a bar (provided noise levels, suitable projection, etc could be managed)? - SCOPE: Given the demise of both the Adobe and Flex UGs here in Melbourne, should we provide coverage across the Adobe dev space and incorporate at least Flex? There was a general feeling that this would bring
[cfaussie] CF8 with Crystal reports
Hi guys
Has anyone used Crystal reports with CF? I've developed several
Crystal reports which I want to distribute to various stack holders
easily each month. I'm aware of Crystal Enterprise package but I'm
looking for alternate options due the the $5K+ cost of this package.
I've searched and searched an all I seem to find is basic
documentation on the Adobe live docs (or similar) showing;
cfreport report = '/reports/monthlysales.rpt'
{Departments.Department} = 'International'
/cfreport
But when I do this I get nothing. As a test I populated that report
with CurrentDate and it works in Crystal but when called through the
browser it's just a blank page. I had a play around in Crystal with
the HTML Preview option but it needs an RSA server to be setup. What's
this?
Cheers
Matthew
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[cfaussie] Re: Development application running painfully slow
Thanks for the help Andrew. It turned out to be an IIS issue as per my suspicions. Somehow the IIS database became corrupted. A re-install has fixed it. Cheers Matthew On Jul 24, 9:52 am, Andrew Myers am2...@gmail.com wrote: This may not be the solution, but here are a couple of things you can check. 1. Are the pages calling any external resources that might be offline or are being blocked by a firewall, etc.? 2. Not sure if this is applicable because you're on IIS, but I've known apache to run very slowly if I have something like Tomcat plugged into it using mod_jk and tomcat is not started. So you might want to check all the other web server dependencies / plugins are also running. Like I said, it might not be the issue, but worth a try... 2009/7/24 Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com Hi guys All of a sudden my development application is running painfully slow. When I try to call up the application in the browser it takes 2-5 minutes to bring up the most basic of pages. I'm pretty sure CF isn't guilty because I've got FusionReactor running and I can see that CF is processing it at its normal quick speed so it must me something else in the HTTP delivery procedure (to confirm this when I try to bring up a htm page it's same problem). I've switched on LiveHTTPHeaders in Firefox and I can see each HTTP elements coming through one at a time very slowly until finally everything arrives and I get the page. Does anyone have any ideas? Environment: CF8, IIS 5.1, SQL Server 2005. I'm not sure if it's related but the application is a SubVersion (SVN) project and the only thing I did different recently was copy in folders but not make them part of the project. I'll keep trying to solve it but I thought someone might have an idea or two? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Development application running painfully slow
Hi guys All of a sudden my development application is running painfully slow. When I try to call up the application in the browser it takes 2-5 minutes to bring up the most basic of pages. I'm pretty sure CF isn't guilty because I've got FusionReactor running and I can see that CF is processing it at its normal quick speed so it must me something else in the HTTP delivery procedure (to confirm this when I try to bring up a htm page it's same problem). I've switched on LiveHTTPHeaders in Firefox and I can see each HTTP elements coming through one at a time very slowly until finally everything arrives and I get the page. Does anyone have any ideas? Environment: CF8, IIS 5.1, SQL Server 2005. I'm not sure if it's related but the application is a SubVersion (SVN) project and the only thing I did different recently was copy in folders but not make them part of the project. I'll keep trying to solve it but I thought someone might have an idea or two? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Web service not working after CF8 upgrade
Hi We've recently upgraded from CF7 to CF8 and our web service (published web service) no longer works. I've done some really basic tests such as create a new CFC with 1 remote method but I still get a blank screen. The HTML shows about 18--20 empty lines. Totally weird. Can someone please confirm that I'm not crazy and try the following in a CFC called test.cfc and call it via the browser e.g. http://localhost/test.cfc?WSDL cfcomponent cffunction name=echoString returnType=string output=no access=remote cfargument name=input type=string / cfreturn Arguments.input / /cffunction /cfcomponent Is there a setting in the admin which I need to flick? Any suggestions would be great. Environment: CF8, WinXP, IIS 5. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Web service not working after CF8 upgrade
@Steve: do you mean make a call to the web service from a cfm either via cfinvoke, CreateObject etc. This doesn't work either. Here's an example; CODE: CreateObject(webservice,http://localhost/test.cfc?WSDL;) ERROR: **Unable to parse WSDL as an XML document.** Parsing error: Fatal Error: URI=null Line=-1: Premature end of file. It is recommended that you use a web browser to retrieve and examine the requested WSDL document to ensure it is correct. Cheers Matthew On Jun 23, 12:24 pm, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.au wrote: Can you call it as a CFMCFC call? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 12:18 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Web service not working after CF8 upgrade Hi We've recently upgraded from CF7 to CF8 and our web service (published web service) no longer works. I've done some really basic tests such as create a new CFC with 1 remote method but I still get a blank screen. The HTML shows about 18--20 empty lines. Totally weird. Can someone please confirm that I'm not crazy and try the following in a CFC called test.cfc and call it via the browser e.g.http://localhost/test.cfc?WSDL cfcomponent cffunction name=echoString returnType=string output=no access=remote cfargument name=input type=string / cfreturn Arguments.input / /cffunction /cfcomponent Is there a setting in the admin which I need to flick? Any suggestions would be great. Environment: CF8, WinXP, IIS 5. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Web service not working after CF8 upgrade
@Steve: I get you now. Yes, I can invoke the component e.g. CreateObject(component,test) @Kai: I don't think that issue is applicable because you're talking about consuming a web service. I'm talking about publishing one. Regardless of this the WSDL isn't being registered in the admin because it's not even getting to that point because it's not even resolving due to the error so it must be something else. @Charlie: yes I'm expecting to get the WSDL. When I view the source I just see 18-20 blank lines (in CF7 I used to get the XML/SOAP dumped to the browser as you'd expect). Calling the method via the browser had same effect. Calling the CFC via the browser had the same effect. I think you might be onto something Charlie because I just isolated the CFC in a new folder with it's own App.cfc and it worked. You must be right. The parent App.cfc is guilty. I need to investigate. Thanks a million. Cheers Matthew On Jun 23, 1:04 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Matthew, in your example you're just expecting to get the WSDL back, right? When you do a view source, what do you see? It should be a lot of SOAP XML. If it's anything else, it could give you clues as to an error in the code (Even as simpler as the CFC is, and it did work for me.) But do note that a web service CFC invocation also runs the application.cfc/cfm, if any, so you may have an error in there instead. But if that's not it, did you try running the CFC as a web service from within the browser? You can do that, as in: http://localhost/test.cfc?wsdlmethod=echoStringinput=teststring Note the addition of the method= which points to the method you created, and the use of input, which you named as the input argument. That worked for me, with your code. You could also just call it not as a web service, but simply as a CFC, via a browser (without the ?wsdl):. http://localhost/test.cfc?method=echoStringinput=teststring Does that echo the same result? This calling a CFC via a URL but not as a web service is another thing (like calling a method and passing args to a web service) that many don't know exist. (Not saying you didn't know either of these things, Matthew, just saying this if others read this and are surprised.) Now, if you run either of these, I'll also note that again if you do a view source of the result, you'll see that what you get back is not just the string, but really a WDDX packet, which is what you get when you call a CFC method either as a web service or as a CFC on the URL, CF returns the result as a WDDXPacket (even a simple string). There are ways to influence that return format, and some are new in CF8. But that simple test code returns the same wddxpacket in 7.02 (I did test your example against both). Now, if you do a view source on either just the request for the WSDL, or calling the method either as a web service or a CFC, and there's something else shown, then there may be some other problem which you see in that view source. BTW, when you sent in your next note (which arrived while I wrote this) saying that trying to invoke the web service from CFML code (with createobject) also seemed to fail for you. That would suggest something may indeed be wrong that may be identified in my first test above, viewing the WSDL that's supposed to be returned. If it's not WSDL, something's wrong in the code, whether your file or the application.cfm/cfc. Let us know. I'm off to bed real soon. :-) /charlie PS If anyone ever wants help off-list, I'm happy to help (even remotely) throughhttp://www.carehart.org/consulting/. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Steve Onnis Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 10:24 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Web service not working after CF8 upgrade Can you call it as a CFMCFC call? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 23 June 2009 12:18 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Web service not working after CF8 upgrade Hi We've recently upgraded from CF7 to CF8 and our web service (published web service) no longer works. I've done some really basic tests such as create a new CFC with 1 remote method but I still get a blank screen. The HTML shows about 18--20 empty lines. Totally weird. Can someone please confirm that I'm not crazy and try the following in a CFC called test.cfc and call it via the browser e.g.http://localhost/test.cfc?WSDL cfcomponent cffunction name=echoString returnType=string output=no access=remote cfargument name=input type=string / cfreturn Arguments.input / /cffunction /cfcomponent Is there a setting in the admin which I need to flick? Any suggestions would be great. Environment: CF8, WinXP, IIS 5. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You
[cfaussie] Re: Web service not working after CF8 upgrade
@Charlie: yep, that App.cfc issue was definetly guilty. I should have thought of that - sorry to waste ppl's time. At least I learned that you can pass in the arguments via that URL. Have a good sleep :) Cheers Matthew On Jun 23, 1:21 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Fair point, Kai. And in case one can't use the servicefactory approach described there (which is technically unsupported and often disabled by the Admin's on a shared host), here are a couple other solutions. The first is how one can do it with the Admin API (as of 7), but it does require knowing the Admin password: http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2006/12/12/refreshing_w... ices_programmatically The second is a far simpler way that can be done from code, without Admin rights, which would serve like Matthew on his CF 8 hosted server: http://www.carehart.org/blog/client/index.cfm/2007/9/3/cf8_hiddengem_... wsdl Hope that helps, if the earlier note's ideas don't prove to find the source of the problem. /charlie From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Kai Koenig Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:01 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Web service not working after CF8 upgrade Matt, CF caches stub and skeleton Java classes generated from a published web service. I can't say for sure but it wouldn't surprise me at all if those are just kept during an server upgrade from CF 7 to CF 8 and now trigger the behaviour you're seeing. Here's a link of how to clear the WS cache programmatically: http://www.bloginblack.de/archives/000824.cfm Cheers Kai --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Web service not working after CF8 upgrade
SOLUTION: If anyone is interested I discovered that the onRequest
method in App.cfc was guilty. If you're familiar with this method
you'll know that if you choose to use it you need to include a
cfargument called targetPage and then you need to have a cfinclude
template=#Arguments.targetPage# /. So the reason my web service
wasn't working because this was returning cfinclude template=/
test.cfc / which does nothing.
So it would appear that you can't use onRequest when you publish a web
service I'd almost call this a bug really.
After reading various articles it appears that there are hack work
arounds (e.g.
http://www.bennadel.com/blog/430-My-First-ColdFusion-Web-Service.htm
or ) and it sounds like you run into the same problem when trying to
do Flash Remoting and using CFSELECT (http://www.scratty.com/
coldfusion-8-cfselect-bind-ajax/). Here's another useful article
http://www.coldfusionjedi.com/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=ED9D4058-E661-02E9-E70A41706CD89724
The best solution (hack) I've found was to include the following code
in onRequestStart();
if (ListLast(Arguments.targetPage, .) EQ cfc) {
StructDelete(this, onRequest);
StructDelete(variables,onRequest);
}
Hopefully this helps someone in the future.
Cheers
Matthew
On Jun 23, 1:30 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org
wrote:
Great to hear. I'll check for more details in my morning. 'night all. :-)
/charlie
-Original Message-
From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf
Of Matthew
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2009 11:21 PM
To: cfaussie
Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Web service not working after CF8 upgrade
@Steve: I get you now. Yes, I can invoke the component e.g.
CreateObject(component,test)
@Kai: I don't think that issue is applicable because you're talking
about consuming a web service. I'm talking about publishing one.
Regardless of this the WSDL isn't being registered in the admin
because it's not even getting to that point because it's not even
resolving due to the error so it must be something else.
@Charlie: yes I'm expecting to get the WSDL. When I view the source I
just see 18-20 blank lines (in CF7 I used to get the XML/SOAP dumped
to the browser as you'd expect). Calling the method via the browser
had same effect. Calling the CFC via the browser had the same effect.
I think you might be onto something Charlie because I just isolated
the CFC in a new folder with it's own App.cfc and it worked. You must
be right. The parent App.cfc is guilty. I need to investigate. Thanks
a million.
Cheers
Matthew
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[cfaussie] Re: THIS WEDNESDAY : Coldfusion 9 and FLEX 4 Product Preview Presentation
Thanks Mark and Steve for putting last night together. Thanks also to whoever sponsered the food / venue. It's a shame it ran behind schedule because I had to leave at 9pm and miss the 2nd half of the CF9 presentation. Is the slide show available anywhere? I did have a question I wanted to ask: how are Adobe handling the pre- release of CF9 and Bolt. I've registered on the Labs website but no response from Adobe yet. I guess they are just hand picking testers at this stage. Perhaps I'll have to wait for the Beta - any idea when this will be out? Cheers Matthew On Jun 17, 9:45 am, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: See you all tonight!!! Mark On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:14 AM, Steve Onnis st...@cfcentral.com.auwrote: Reminding everyone that on June 17th, which is *THIS WEDNESDAY*, Adobe is demonstrating the new release of Coldfusion codenamed *Centaur* along with the next release of Adobes rich internet application development platform, FLEX. The presentation is being conducted as part of the monthly usergroup meetings and will be attended by technical and sales members of Adobe. Presentations will also be conducted by Adobe team members. *Tour Event:* Coldfusion 9 and FLEX 4 Usergroup Tour *Date and Time:* June 17, 2009 from 6:00pm - 9:00pm *Address:* CQ Functions 113 Queen Street Melbourne, Victoria 3000 google maphttp://maps.google.com/maps?q=CQ+Functions+113+Queen+Street+Melbourne... Adobe ColdFusion 9 The Adobe ColdFusion team is hitting the road to discuss Centaur, the next version of ColdFusion, and Bolt - code name for the highly anticipated first ColdFusion IDE from Adobe. Learn about exciting new features and discover how Centaur and Bolt will accelerate your ColdFusion application development. Flex 4 / Flash Catalyst Come learn about the newest features in the Flex 4 framework, Flex Builder 4 and the newest Adobe product -- Flash Catalyst. See product feature demos, and learn how the new Flex framework powers both Flash Catalyst and Flex Builder to speed the development and testing of rich Internet applications and content. There will be pre drinks and food platters which will give you a great opportunity to network and mingle with the other people attending. Go tohttp://groups.adobe.com/posts/081e9d435fform more information and to register, or you can email st...@inevative.com.au and provide your registration directly to me. If you would like to bring other people from your workplace or clients along you can do so. Just let me know the names of the people that would like to attend. Places are limited and they are filling up quickly so register now so you don't miss out. Regards Steve Onnis -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com W:www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: PHP to CF help
Hi Ben I've not read the post in any detail but at a quick glance maybe the cffile is throwing an error due to a name conflict so perhaps add the nameConflict = MakeUnique attribute/value to the cffile tag. Cheers Matthew On Jun 17, 12:59 pm, phad...@formstar.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:45:21PM +1000, Ben Lowndes wrote: I've got the cocoa app posting to a simple debug script (see below) and on checking the resulting file there's no form or url data being sent.. Very frustrating!I can't see how the php script can be handling it, so I think all I'm left with is finding a method to inspect the HTTP data. As has been mentioned: http://www.charlesproxy.com For Windows, Mac Linux. Sits between your browser the web and shows you pretty much everything possible about what's going on. Reqest headers, cookies, form data, raw data; response data up to including decoding AMF packets etc etc. Pretty much as must-have tool, afaik. Cheers Paul Haddon Technical Services Manager Formstar Print Technologies --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFDOCUMENT hanging server!?!?!
Hi everyone A full system restart finally solved it. Thanks for all the help! Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFDOCUMENT hanging server!?!?!
Hi Mark Thanks for the response. Not sure what you mean? What do I need to do with the DNS? I really need to solve this! Cheers Matthew On Feb 26, 3:45 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: I've had similar things happen when the DNS has changes, and the server can't resolve it's own name. A quick fix to the hosts file can usually solve this one. Mark On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Suddenly I'm having a problem with CFDOCUMENT hanging the server. The code has been working fine for years, mind you I did play around with the layout a little recently but it was fine when I put the changes live and now several days later it just get hung threads. I've rolled back the code and still it hangs. If I monitor the thread in Fusion Reactor it just sits there and doesn't resolve. When the crash first happened I had 4 threads sitting there fore 1,900,000ms! Here is a sample stack trace if anyone can help? jrpp-2725 prio=5 tid=0x050e1578 nid=0x1020 in Object.wait() [0x0c1bf000..0x0c1bfd94] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on 0x141f92c8 (a coldfusion.util.Semaphore) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at coldfusion.util.Semaphore.acquire(Semaphore.java:31) - locked 0x141f92c8 (a coldfusion.util.Semaphore) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.DocumentTag.doAfterBody(DocumentTag.java: 1107) at cfpass2ecfc602386039$funcCREATEPRODUCTFACTSHEET.runFunction(C: \Inetpub\wwwroot\project\views\pass.cfc:1260) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:344) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ReturnTypeFilter.invoke (UDFMethod.java:290) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ArgumentCollectionFilter.invoke (UDFMethod.java:254) at coldfusion.filter.FunctionAccessFilter.invoke (FunctionAccessFilter.java:56) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.runFilterChain(UDFMethod.java:207) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:169) at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:194) at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:146) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:1634) at cfpass2ecfm652413036._factor2(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 215) at cfpass2ecfm652413036._factor3(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 27) at cfpass2ecfm652413036.runPage(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 1) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:152) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:349) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java: 225) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke (RequestMonitorFilter.java:51) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:69) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke (ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java: 22) at coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke (RequestThrottleFilter.java:115) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:107) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service (BootstrapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.B(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.A(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.doFilter (Unknown Source) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke (JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch (ServletEngineService.java:541) at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable (JRunProxyService.java:204) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:318) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:426) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:264) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) -- E: mark.man...@gmail.com W:www.compoundtheory.com
[cfaussie] Re: CFDOCUMENT hanging server!?!?!
Hi again Mark I just figured out what you meant write after responding. I check if I can call the website up from on the web server and I can so I don't think this is the issue. I assume you meant for me to add a host record to point the domain back at the server but this would only be required if it couldn't be browsed to right? Cheers Matthew On Feb 26, 4:02 pm, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark Thanks for the response. Not sure what you mean? What do I need to do with the DNS? I really need to solve this! Cheers Matthew On Feb 26, 3:45 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: I've had similar things happen when the DNS has changes, and the server can't resolve it's own name. A quick fix to the hosts file can usually solve this one. Mark On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Suddenly I'm having a problem with CFDOCUMENT hanging the server. The code has been working fine for years, mind you I did play around with the layout a little recently but it was fine when I put the changes live and now several days later it just get hung threads. I've rolled back the code and still it hangs. If I monitor the thread in Fusion Reactor it just sits there and doesn't resolve. When the crash first happened I had 4 threads sitting there fore 1,900,000ms! Here is a sample stack trace if anyone can help? jrpp-2725 prio=5 tid=0x050e1578 nid=0x1020 in Object.wait() [0x0c1bf000..0x0c1bfd94] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on 0x141f92c8 (a coldfusion.util.Semaphore) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at coldfusion.util.Semaphore.acquire(Semaphore.java:31) - locked 0x141f92c8 (a coldfusion.util.Semaphore) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.DocumentTag.doAfterBody(DocumentTag.java: 1107) at cfpass2ecfc602386039$funcCREATEPRODUCTFACTSHEET.runFunction(C: \Inetpub\wwwroot\project\views\pass.cfc:1260) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:344) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ReturnTypeFilter.invoke (UDFMethod.java:290) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ArgumentCollectionFilter.invoke (UDFMethod.java:254) at coldfusion.filter.FunctionAccessFilter.invoke (FunctionAccessFilter.java:56) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.runFilterChain(UDFMethod.java:207) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:169) at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:194) at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:146) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:1634) at cfpass2ecfm652413036._factor2(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 215) at cfpass2ecfm652413036._factor3(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 27) at cfpass2ecfm652413036.runPage(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 1) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:152) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:349) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java: 225) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke (RequestMonitorFilter.java:51) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:69) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke (ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java: 22) at coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke (RequestThrottleFilter.java:115) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:107) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service (BootstrapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.B(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.A(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.doFilter (Unknown Source) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke (JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch
[cfaussie] Re: CFDOCUMENT hanging server!?!?!
Hi Mark I think you replied to my first email. What you are saying sounds like what I described in my second post i.e. I can browse to the website from a browser on the web server. You said ping the computer name so do you mean something else? Cheers Matthew On Feb 26, 4:07 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: Basically, to do cfdocument, CF has a sort of internal browser, that it uses to capture the screen contents, and then render it out to PDF. If the DNS server that the server is using, can't resolve the name of the computer to an IP address, the whole thing tends to hand pretty drastically. Get on the box, and try and ping the computer name... if it can't work out what it is, then this will be the issue. Mark On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:02 PM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Mark Thanks for the response. Not sure what you mean? What do I need to do with the DNS? I really need to solve this! Cheers Matthew On Feb 26, 3:45 pm, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: I've had similar things happen when the DNS has changes, and the server can't resolve it's own name. A quick fix to the hosts file can usually solve this one. Mark On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone Suddenly I'm having a problem with CFDOCUMENT hanging the server. The code has been working fine for years, mind you I did play around with the layout a little recently but it was fine when I put the changes live and now several days later it just get hung threads. I've rolled back the code and still it hangs. If I monitor the thread in Fusion Reactor it just sits there and doesn't resolve. When the crash first happened I had 4 threads sitting there fore 1,900,000ms! Here is a sample stack trace if anyone can help? jrpp-2725 prio=5 tid=0x050e1578 nid=0x1020 in Object.wait() [0x0c1bf000..0x0c1bfd94] at java.lang.Object.wait(Native Method) - waiting on 0x141f92c8 (a coldfusion.util.Semaphore) at java.lang.Object.wait(Object.java:429) at coldfusion.util.Semaphore.acquire(Semaphore.java:31) - locked 0x141f92c8 (a coldfusion.util.Semaphore) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.DocumentTag.doAfterBody(DocumentTag.java: 1107) at cfpass2ecfc602386039$funcCREATEPRODUCTFACTSHEET.runFunction(C: \Inetpub\wwwroot\project\views\pass.cfc:1260) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:344) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ReturnTypeFilter.invoke (UDFMethod.java:290) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ArgumentCollectionFilter.invoke (UDFMethod.java:254) at coldfusion.filter.FunctionAccessFilter.invoke (FunctionAccessFilter.java:56) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.runFilterChain(UDFMethod.java:207) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:169) at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:194) at coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:146) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:1634) at cfpass2ecfm652413036._factor2(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 215) at cfpass2ecfm652413036._factor3(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 27) at cfpass2ecfm652413036.runPage(C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\project\pass.cfm: 1) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:152) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:349) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java: 225) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke (RequestMonitorFilter.java:51) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:69) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke (ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java: 22) at coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke (RequestThrottleFilter.java:115) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:107) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service (BootstrapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.B(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.A(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.doFilter (Unknown Source
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 bug with CFDOCUMENT
@Ray: sorry for the slow reply. I just tested it again and the var works fine. However bizarely if you call the local variable temp (as in you example) the string gets changed to C:\Windows\Temp! Truly odd! I'll leave it for the Adobe guys to sort it out. Hopefully they'll respond to my bug error log. On Feb 19, 12:17 am, Raymond Camden rcam...@gmail.com wrote: So wait, you said you copied the arg. So I assume you did cfset var temp = arguments.strA Is that what you did? I'm asking because you say at the end I don't think you can VAR the local variable. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:34 PM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks Ryan and Ray for the responses. The code worked perfectly fine in CF7. I've just logged the bug with Adobe. By the way: the simple fix is just to create a new local variable in the function and assign the argument variable to the local variable (it's a waste but at least it gets my code working again) - NOTE: I don't think you can VAR the local variable so it's still really a bug. Cheers Matthew -- === Raymond Camden, VP of Software Dev, Broadchoice Email : r...@camdenfamily.com Blog :www.coldfusionjedi.com AOL IM : cfjedimaster Keep up to date with the community:http://www.coldfusionbloggers.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 bug with CFDOCUMENT
Someone must be running CF8 and can try the code? Anyone? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CF8 bug with CFDOCUMENT
Thanks Ryan and Ray for the responses. The code worked perfectly fine in CF7. I've just logged the bug with Adobe. By the way: the simple fix is just to create a new local variable in the function and assign the argument variable to the local variable (it's a waste but at least it gets my code working again) - NOTE: I don't think you can VAR the local variable so it's still really a bug. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Upgrading to CF8 advice?
Hi everyone We are finally upgrading to CF8 from CF7 (Standard). I'm looking forward to playing around with all the image manipulation features, CFTEXTAREA, and all the AJAX stuff (even if it is using old YUI libraries and doesn't have the scope of jQuery). I just wanted to see if anyone had any issues with upgrading so that I can avoid any issues? I'm aware that I need to upgrade to JVM 1.6.0_10 Current setup: IIS, CF7.0.2, MySql 4 (soon to be SQL Server 2005). Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] URL variable error when an anchor is included
Hi everyone I'm trying to solve a problem where my CF code throws an error because it thinks that an anchor in the URL is part of a URL variable. It works fine in most browsers it's just IE 6 that spits the dummy. The odd thing is that if you type the URL straight into IE6 it's fine and even if you refresh the page which threw the error it's fine. It seems to only happen when you redirect to the page (I initially got the error from a re-direction off a 3rd party website but I can replicate it with CFLOCATION)!! So here's an example /test.cfm?page=about_us#phone where usually when you call url.page it would return about_us but it is returning about_us#phone. This must be a bug in IE6. I've read a few posts where others have come across this and one solution was to insert an character before the anchor i.e. / test.cfm?page=about_us#phone but this will be a big job because there are quite a few links that would need to be changed on the 3rd party website. I know I could write my own URL variable extractor (by analysing CGI.query_string) but that would be crazy. Has anyone else come across this and found an easy solution? Is there a patch to CF to fix this perhaps? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: URL variable error when an anchor is included
Yeah, but that would mean that I have to edit 1000s of references to URL variables across the site. Bloody IE6 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Is XML bigger before or after XmlParse
@charlie: sorry, I think I lead you a little astray with my response. You are right I did want to know both if the output of parsed XML and the amount of memory it takes up is large than un-parsed. Your comment about all the extra CSS / HTML etc makes sense. @everyone: I ommited one point from my original post. The reason I'm interested in how much bigger parsed XML is is because the error emails I was getting were huge (some were 13Mb!!!). I assume that if the are big when being outputted in email than perhaps they are large when held in memory. The answer may be that the are only large when outputted due to all the HTML/CSS etc where as in memory they are still quite small because it's just struct/arrays etc. @barry: don't worry I'm not stuppid enough to do what your predecesor did. My data is customer specific! I'm on CF7 by the way so I can't use the new CF8 feature to work out the size of a vaiable. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Is XML bigger before or after XmlParse
@Ross: great, thanks for running the test. As you say it could vary based on a number of varients (such as Ross's comment). If your quick test is a good guide than it would make a big difference if the parsed version is double the size. Thanks everyone. Cheers Matthew On Jan 22, 9:31 am, Simon Haddon simon.had...@gmail.com wrote: It could very well be true for unicode text which would align with your discovery but I would say that if there was numeric data it would be stored more efficiently as binary than as text which would occur when you parsed the xml. 4 bytes for a large float where as the text equivilent could be 8 or more (in fact 16 since it would probbly use 2 bytes per character). Might be worth running a few more tests. 2009/1/22 Ross Phillips r...@fingersdancing.com I did a quick test using the CF8 monitor tool to figure out if XML is larger when stored as a String or a XML object. As suspected the XML object is larger but only by about 80 bytes. I was only using a simple XML structure and I would expect this to change when the XML gets more complex. myXML = nodedata/node; Application.before_myXML = myXML; // 72 bytes Application.after_myXML = XMLParse(myXML); // 152 bytes Cheers, Ross On 22/01/2009, at 10:13 AM, Matthew wrote: @charlie: sorry, I think I lead you a little astray with my response. You are right I did want to know both if the output of parsed XML and the amount of memory it takes up is large than un-parsed. Your comment about all the extra CSS / HTML etc makes sense. @everyone: I ommited one point from my original post. The reason I'm interested in how much bigger parsed XML is is because the error emails I was getting were huge (some were 13Mb!!!). I assume that if the are big when being outputted in email than perhaps they are large when held in memory. The answer may be that the are only large when outputted due to all the HTML/CSS etc where as in memory they are still quite small because it's just struct/arrays etc. @barry: don't worry I'm not stuppid enough to do what your predecesor did. My data is customer specific! I'm on CF7 by the way so I can't use the new CF8 feature to work out the size of a vaiable. Cheers Matthew -- Cheers Simon Haddon Woman loves feeling danger and speed. That is why woman wants man. They get a speed rush that is the most dangerous of all. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Is XML bigger before or after XmlParse
Hi guys Is XML bigger or smaller after XmlParse? I would guess that it is bigger because CF has had to convert it into struct/array type objects within objects etc etc. The reason I ask is because recently my inbox exploded due to an error on the server which resulted in error emails being send out and the error just so happened to be on a page where there was a large XML object (I output all available variables/scopes to the error email in order to have the best chance of diagnosing / repeating errors). I was just wondering was the email so big because the XML had be parsed? I'm now going to have to find some way of removing all XML objects from each scope before dispatching an error email... any ideas? I was trying to work out the answer to my first question by looking for ways to establish the size of a variable before and after XmlParse however I haven't yet found a way to find out a variables size. Does anyone know how to do this? e.g. foo.howBigAmI() Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: JRUN hanging
) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service (BootstrapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.B(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.A(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.doFilter (Unknown Source) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke (JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch (ServletEngineService.java:541) at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable (JRunProxyService.java:204) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:318) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:426) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:264) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) By the way: this doesn't really reflect what I raised in my first thread because this shows what happen straight after a CF restart where as the original issue happens when everything is stable and then suddenly CF hangs. I'm still waiting for that to happen. Cheers Matthew On Jan 8, 6:27 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Well, before you get too excited, be careful that you're not misunderstanding the report. The memory reported there is NOT for the current request, but rather for the entire CF server. So that number alone isn't too meaningful. But if it ROSE by 32 meg when you ran a request, that would be different (but even then you can't be positive that a given request caused the rise. Other things can be running to increase memory besides the request you're running.) Rather than view the memory in the stack trace, to observe how it's changing over time, I'd recommend instead you watch either the graphical interface they offer for the memory graph, or view the info in the resource-x.log file, both of which report it at 5 second intervals. But if that indeed is a stack trace of the call to the web service, notice the top line which says: java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method) That would be the kind of thing (a native method) that CF's request timeout feature can't interrupt normally, but again I have confirmed that in my test where the TIMEOUT of a CFINVOKE webservice call works, it is indeed timing out while sitting in that same state. My assertion is that CF has added some additional timeout callback mechanism in such a case, which it doesn't do as a matter of course on other code. Makes sense to me. The question is why it doesn't timeout for you--but that will be the thing to confirm now. When you have a request that you see runs long, and you KNOW it has a timeout, if you sit there refreshing the stack trace, does it remain in this socketread0 method beyond that timeout time? It doesn't for me. :-) /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 11:32 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: JRUN hanging Hi Charlie, Out of interest (while I await a hung server) I've configured FR 2.0.4 on my dev PC and run a couple of calls to the web service whilst I watch them in FR. I was alarmed to see that my single request was costing 32MB of memory (32,438KB) This snapshot was taken at about the 30th second (the whole request finished after 55s). Here is the top part of the Thread Stack Trace: Thread Stack Trace Trace Time: 15:26:34.224 08-Jan-2009 Request ID: 25 Script Name: http://foo Started: 15:26:04.177 08-Jan-2009 Exec Time: 30047ms Memory Used: (6%)32,438KB Memory Free: 472,457KB Thread ID: jrpp-8 Priority: 5 Hashcode: 30900283 jrpp-8 prio=5 tid=0x03c5f468 nid=0x3c4 runnable [559d000..559fd90] at java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method) at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:129) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.read(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) - locked 0x158afd20 (a java.lang.Object) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream.read(DashoA12275) - locked 0x158afc88 (a com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1
[cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
(IncludeTag.java:349) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java: 225) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke (RequestMonitorFilter.java:51) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86) at coldfusion.filter.LicenseFilter.invoke(LicenseFilter.java:27) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:69) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke (BrowserDebugFilter.java:52) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke (ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java: 22) at coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke (RequestThrottleFilter.java:115) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:107) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service (BootstrapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.B(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.A(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.doFilter (Unknown Source) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke (JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch (ServletEngineService.java:541) at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable (JRunProxyService.java:204) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:318) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:426) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:264) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) Cheers Matthew On Jan 8, 6:45 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: OK, so I just looked a little closer, and I see that while both our stack traces show being in a socketread0, there's more to the story. When my code is stuck on the CFINVOKE, I see something different from you. For one thing, notice that at the bottom of my stack trace (below), I see the line of CFML that's executing (in my case, line 14 of invoke_web_service_that_waits.cfm). That's what's so great about FR's making these stack traces so easy. I can see exactly what line of code I'm executing when I ask for the stack trace. And it's what I'd expect, waiting for the invoked web service to respond. This is what it shows as I refresh the stack trace prior to the timeout I set. But I don't see any CF line number in your stack trace. It just ends with (Unknown Source). Did you not provide it all? Or is there no more? If there is no more, that may be interesting itself. More important, though, is that you'll notice our stack traces show different java methods being called. You read these from bottom up, from the source line of CFML to the various java methods it led to, which are often very deep. Mine reflects what happens when the CFINVOKE first leads to a coldfusion.tagext.lang.InvokeTag.doEndTag (2 lines above it, which shows CF was processing the end tag of the cfinvoke), and then ultimately a bunch of methods in the apache axis client, then ultimately some java network IO: at java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method) at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:129) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.fill(BufferedInputStream.java:183) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(BufferedInputStream.java:201) - locked 0x14236310 (a java.io.BufferedInputStream) at org.apache.axis.transport.http.HTTPSender.readHeadersFromSocket(HTTPSender.j ava:583) at org.apache.axis.transport.http.HTTPSender.invoke(HTTPSender.java:143) at org.apache.axis.strategies.InvocationStrategy.visit(InvocationStrategy.java: 32) at org.apache.axis.SimpleChain.doVisiting(SimpleChain.java:118) at org.apache.axis.SimpleChain.invoke(SimpleChain.java:83) at org.apache.axis.client.AxisClient.invoke(AxisClient.java:165) at org.apache.axis.client.Call.invokeEngine(Call.java:2765) at org.apache.axis.client.Call.invoke(Call.java:2748) at org.apache.axis.client.Call.invoke(Call.java:2424) at org.apache.axis.client.Call.invoke(Call.java:2347) at org.apache.axis.client.Call.invoke
[cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
P.S. CFHTTP doesn't obey the timeout either! Here's the stack trace at the 15th second (I told it to timeout after 5s): jrpp-1 prio=5 tid=0x03fdbc00 nid=0x14c4 runnable [a7de000..a7dfd90] at java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method) at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:129) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.read(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) - locked 0x14d1e0b8 (a java.lang.Object) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream.read(DashoA12275) - locked 0x14d1e170 (a com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream) at HTTPClient.BufferedInputStream.fillBuff(BufferedInputStream.java: 172) at HTTPClient.BufferedInputStream.read(BufferedInputStream.java:110) at HTTPClient.StreamDemultiplexor.read(StreamDemultiplexor.java:310) - locked 0x14d281e8 (a HTTPClient.StreamDemultiplexor) at HTTPClient.RespInputStream.read(RespInputStream.java:155) - locked 0x14d28238 (a HTTPClient.RespInputStream) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1(BufferedInputStream.java:220) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(BufferedInputStream.java:277) - locked 0x105c2648 (a java.io.BufferedInputStream) at coldfusion.tagext.net.HttpTag.getUrlContents(HttpTag.java:1777) at coldfusion.tagext.net.HttpTag.connHelper(HttpTag.java:877) at coldfusion.tagext.net.HttpTag.doEndTag(HttpTag.java:1014) at cfuntitled2ecfm1694986060.runPage(C:\Program Files\Apache Group \Apache2\htdocs\test\untitled.cfm:84) at coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:152) at coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:349) at coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:65) at coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java: 225) at coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke (RequestMonitorFilter.java:51) at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:86) at coldfusion.filter.LicenseFilter.invoke(LicenseFilter.java:27) at coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:69) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke (BrowserDebugFilter.java:52) at coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke (ClientScopePersistenceFilter.java:28) at coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:38) at coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java: 22) at coldfusion.filter.RequestThrottleFilter.invoke (RequestThrottleFilter.java:115) at coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:107) at coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service (BootstrapServlet.java:78) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:86) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.B(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.A(Unknown Source) at com.intergral.fusionreactor.filter.FusionReactorFilter.doFilter (Unknown Source) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.doFilter(FilterChain.java:94) at jrun.servlet.FilterChain.service(FilterChain.java:101) at jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke (JRunRequestDispatcher.java:257) at jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch (ServletEngineService.java:541) at jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable (JRunProxyService.java:204) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:318) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:426) at jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable (ThreadPool.java:264) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66) On Jan 9, 1:48 pm, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Charlie Sorry to have wasted your time because I should have included the full stack trace - I only included the top half. Mine does infact have a line number (by the way there was lots under the line number as well so I've included the full thing however I'm guessing all the stuff prior to the line number is CF getting itself ready to start processing e.g. getting a worker thread etc). Anyway, I've re-run the test with a 15s timeout this time but still it went for 55s. Below is the stack trace at the 46th second. I've noted that my web service is a https URL i.e. it's using SSL. I'm not sure if this may
[cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
@MrBuzzy, thanks for making the effort to reply. I thought there were fires near Goulburn? You've explained precisely what I've always thought has been the problem but as Charlie has rightly suggested I should get the proof via a monitoring tool to be sure. I'm trying to get Fusion Reactor installed (we've got the licence for v2.0.0 so I hope that still does the job), it'll probably be a few days before we get a hang scenario again but once it happens I'll report back. I appreciate your help. @Charlie, thanks to MrB you now understand my issue however I will get the evidence for further discussion. By the way, this is a little OT but thanks a million for the huge effort of running UGTV. I rarely make a live session (usually due to the time difference) however I often go to the site and view the recordings. Please keep it up and please do your best to catch the recordings from the start plus make sure the speakers talk clearly into the mike. Thanks a million again!!! Cheers Matthew On Jan 8, 5:31 am, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Wow, all that on a mobile. What a trooper. :-) Must be that clean NSW air there in Goulburn. Fair enough on the confirmation of another instance of CFINVOKE of a webservice with a timeout not doing so. Would love to get to the bottom of things I really do wonder if the hangup's in the waiting (which my test seems to suggest it's not) or in some processing. I realize you say it was waiting for the java.net class, so maybe you're really saying you saw that. I just wonder if necessarily that's the case for Matthew. The beauty of the stack trace is that it will tell us, exactly, without guesses. That will be good to hear. Enjoy the holiday. /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of MrBuzzy Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 10:42 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE? Oh man why do the good conversations always happen when I'm holidaying. I've just driven 700kms up to Golburn and it's about 130am. These quick words aren't well thouht through so I sooologise in advance for that. And I'm on a mobile phone. I don't really have time to back track, so please allow me to just append my opinions and hit the hey :) My experience has been as follows; 1. To agree with Charlie, cfinvoke timeout will and can time out. It's not broken. However this is not always the case. 2. There are definitely situations where it WILL NOT do so. I've seen it with my own eyes, and I have used FusionReactor to provide the proof, which Charlie suggested Matthew does and I think that's an excellent suggestion. To summarize my 'proof' - I have seen cold fusion PAGE requests that are still 'running' after 300,000+ seconds. Yep in CFB.0.1 - do a stack trace on one of these running pages and the page thread is clearly stuck waiting in the guts of a cfinvoke, waiting for a websevice request to complete. (Charlie, if I read you correctly, you are asserting that this is not possible because the cfinvoke timeout WILL save the day. I wish that was the case!) (To be clear, I'm not bagging CF, in my case I am quite sure the non-cf webservice is to blame). In a nut shell this is what occurs; We call a web service which knowingly takes a while to run (could be minutes and varies). For what ever reason the Web Service does not complete it's work or maybe it does. Not another single packet is sent back to CF and CF is left hanging, waiting for the java.net class to give us a sign of what's happening. So why does the WS send nothing back? Not sure maybe apache timed it out. Maybe a firewall did something to the long running request. Many possibilities. (I've heard grumbles that CF is not using http 1.1 and it might all work better if it used that keepalive thingy. And might be totally wrong info too) Zackster, I have implemented almost exactly what you suggested using cfthread and it can work, but just shifts the problem (with minor benefits). The net effect is that the end user may be shielded from a hung browser request, but instead the hung thread will be there in a cfthread. Eventually the cfthread pool will run out of available threads I guess. When I'm back in Melbourne I'd be happy to provide more info on this one if the conversation is still alive :) Ouchies sore thumbs now. Ps: don't even get me started on timeouts and parsing of the wsdl. Whole different problem. Pps: there is also a KB article about setting the timeouts directly on the underlying Axis objects. But I can't remener what problem that solves. G'night! --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie
[cfaussie] Re: JRUN hanging
I've got Fusion Reactor 2.0.0 (this is the only licence we have) up and running and am looking at the Request History. We've not had a hang yet but I just wanted to get familiar with the tool. I'm looking at the requests which are taking 45+ seconds and they are all pages which involve a call to the web service. The pages are not timing out so I'm not getting error logs showing where the timeout occured however is there anyway to see which lines of code are the slow bits? I'm trying to work out if the call to the web service is the slow bit or if it's the unpacking and trying to display the data which may be slow. I'll report back what I'm seeing when the next hang happens. @Charlie: I've tried your idea of browsing to the WSDL while a hang is occuring and I've had mixed scenerios. Sometimes it won't come up, sometimes it comes up but when I try to submit to a method it times out, sometimes it doesn't time out but it does take ages. Anyway, once I get the next hang I'll be able to report back on what I see. Cheers Matthew On Jan 7, 2:48 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Yes, Mark makes a good point. You are saying these are the same problems, right? I didn't pick up on it earlier, but when you said that when things hang, there's high cpu, that really does seem to point to a very different problem. I'll go back to my previous point: I'd be VERY interested if you can confirm that when things hang, whether the stack traces for running requests really are doing the webservice call you say, because as Mark says, if CF's just waiting for them to come back, that shouldn't take up much CPU. Or, thinking outside the box, maybe in fact this IS where CPU time is being spent (and it may explain why the TIMEOUT isn't working). What if you find that indeed CF is in fact running the CFINVOKE when things hang, but instead of just waiting for the webservice result, what if the problem is that the web service returns a HUGE amount of data for some reason. Perhaps there's an error in the web service, or perhaps the variation depends on the kind of data users request. Just as a CFQUERY could be written to bring back a million records from a database (and user input might vary that result from 1 to a million), so too could a web service call that basically returns query-driven data that varies with user input. Or maybe it's not so much huge, but it's complex, and CF is spending time in the Axis java code called by CFINVOKE trying to render the result, converting it from whatever format it's served in to a form that CF can process. That would reflect in it being hung on the CFINVOKE, and possibly not interruptible because it's processing file system I/O. That's just a guess. But all this again speaks to the value of logging the web service calls. If you add in logging the input being passed, you may find that there's a pattern where the requests that hang up pass in some value. That's just a guess. I realize you may content that you know that there are times when it hangs on something you think should bring back one record. But here's another idea: if you do log it, and you do get a situation where CF hangs up that you think is due to the web service calls (indeed, even if you get the stack trace and prove it), then I would recommend you go try to browse the web service yourself, separately from that CF server. Some web services can be called entirely in a browser, if the input arguments are simple (as inhttp://url/service.wsdl?method=somemethodinputarg1=value1). Or if that can't work, setup a CF page that you run on a different server (not the one that's hung), such as your laptop, and run the request there. See if you get any back any input, to see what it looks like. Again, all just some ideas to consider. /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 10:29 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: JRUN hanging Honestly, I'd be surprised if it was the problem you described (although I could be wrong), simply because it's maxing out the CPU, which tends to lean towards and infinite loop. If it was simply locking at the point of the webservice, then there would be no (or very little) CPU activity, but JRUN just wouldn't do anything. Mark --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
@Charlie; 1. Sorry I did miss your joke. 2. I'll aim to type FusionReactor correctly from now (these things annoy me as well especially when you're looking for a CF job and you have to type Cold Fusion and you end up with jobs like Cold calling :)). 3. I've already updated to v.2.0.4 (thanks for the pointer anyway). 4. I will turn on Crash Protection Alert. 5. Sorry about blaming you for bad recordings. Perhaps it's just that I listen to a lot of the ones you introduce. I should have clarified that it is rare that the recording misses the start and to be honest I think it was only once that the speaker wasn't talking into the mike properly (I think it was the Design Patterns from 2nd Oct 08). Anyway, forget the negative comment, the recordings are great and thanks for collating them so cleanly. I continue to eagerly await a hang. Cheers Matthew On Jan 8, 12:02 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: So my quip about clean NSW air was made without any knowledge of fires. Bummer. I wasn't being sarcastic. :-( As for FusionReactor (it's spelled without a space, like CF), the 2.0 version will work. But you can upgrade to 2.04 to get all the fixes and enhancements. More, including the steps and the update file itself, at: http://www.fusion-reactor.com/support/kb/FRS-190.cfm You can also learn what changed since 2.0 at: 2.04 release noteshttp://www.fusion-reactor.com/support/kb/FRS-162.cfm 2.03 release noteshttp://www.fusion-reactor.com/support/kb/FRS-159.cfm As for the challenge that it'll probably be a few days before we get a hang scenario again, be sure to consider the Crash Protection Alert notification feature, so you get sent the email when too many threads hang up. It will have the thread dump in the email, which is great, so at least you don't have to be there when it happens. :-) Finally, about the UGTV, thanks for the kind regards. But you say, please do your best to catch the recordings from the start plus make sure the speakers talk clearly into the mike. I'm wondering: if you're referring to recordings on the UGTV site, I don't control those at all. I created it (carehart.org/ugtv/) simply as a repository to provide a place to point to (and search for/browse) presentations that others have made. Now, among those pointed to are the CF Meetup recorded presos (coldfusionmeetup.com), and I do run that (though again it's other speakers generally),but I do always start the recording at the point I introduce the speaker, so I'm really thinking you're referring to other UGTV talks created by others. I'm afraid I really can't control them. :-( /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 5:12 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE? @MrBuzzy, thanks for making the effort to reply. I thought there were fires near Goulburn? You've explained precisely what I've always thought has been the problem but as Charlie has rightly suggested I should get the proof via a monitoring tool to be sure. I'm trying to get Fusion Reactor installed (we've got the licence for v2.0.0 so I hope that still does the job), it'll probably be a few days before we get a hang scenario again but once it happens I'll report back. I appreciate your help. @Charlie, thanks to MrB you now understand my issue however I will get the evidence for further discussion. By the way, this is a little OT but thanks a million for the huge effort of running UGTV. I rarely make a live session (usually due to the time difference) however I often go to the site and view the recordings. Please keep it up and please do your best to catch the recordings from the start plus make sure the speakers talk clearly into the mike. Thanks a million again!!! Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: JRUN hanging
Hi Charlie, Out of interest (while I await a hung server) I've configured FR 2.0.4 on my dev PC and run a couple of calls to the web service whilst I watch them in FR. I was alarmed to see that my single request was costing 32MB of memory (32,438KB) This snapshot was taken at about the 30th second (the whole request finished after 55s). Here is the top part of the Thread Stack Trace: Thread Stack Trace Trace Time: 15:26:34.224 08-Jan-2009 Request ID: 25 Script Name: http://foo Started: 15:26:04.177 08-Jan-2009 Exec Time:30047ms Memory Used: (6%)32,438KB Memory Free: 472,457KB Thread ID:jrpp-8 Priority: 5 Hashcode: 30900283 jrpp-8 prio=5 tid=0x03c5f468 nid=0x3c4 runnable [559d000..559fd90] at java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method) at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:129) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.read(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) - locked 0x158afd20 (a java.lang.Object) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream.read(DashoA12275) - locked 0x158afc88 (a com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1(BufferedInputStream.java:220) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(BufferedInputStream.java:277) - locked 0x158afad8 (a java.io.BufferedInputStream) at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(FilterInputStream.java:111) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLEntityManager$RewindableInputStream.read (Unknown Source) Cheers Matthew On Jan 8, 12:33 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: No, you can't with FR get any sort of profile of what lines were slowest within a request. Only the CF8 Server monitor has the depth of insight to report that. What I had been referring to is if you can catch the request WHILE it's running, in which case you can get a stack trace by clicking a button to the left of the request, while you see it running. One other thing: you refer to my earlier suggestion as browsing to the WSDL, but to be clear, I wasn't proposing that (though not a bad idea). I was proposing actually running the web service, by adding the method attribute and passing in any needed simple arguments. But the fact that you sometimes can't even get back the WSDL alone is certainly worrisome, and something to bring to the attention of whoever runs the server being called. This is just like how an end user would call any of us if our servers weren't responding to their requests. :-) /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:04 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: JRUN hanging I've got Fusion Reactor 2.0.0 (this is the only licence we have) up and running and am looking at the Request History. We've not had a hang yet but I just wanted to get familiar with the tool. I'm looking at the requests which are taking 45+ seconds and they are all pages which involve a call to the web service. The pages are not timing out so I'm not getting error logs showing where the timeout occured however is there anyway to see which lines of code are the slow bits? I'm trying to work out if the call to the web service is the slow bit or if it's the unpacking and trying to display the data which may be slow. I'll report back what I'm seeing when the next hang happens. @Charlie: I've tried your idea of browsing to the WSDL while a hang is occuring and I've had mixed scenerios. Sometimes it won't come up, sometimes it comes up but when I try to submit to a method it times out, sometimes it doesn't time out but it does take ages. Anyway, once I get the next hang I'll be able to report back on what I see. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
Hi guys, I've installed FR 2.0.4 on my dev machine to show you how the CFINVOIKE will not time out. I ran the sample code in my original post (this time with a 6 sec timeout just to be different) but it ran for 57s. Here is the Thread Stack Trace taken at about 25th second: Thread Stack Trace Trace Time: 15:36:18.993 08-Jan-2009 Request ID: 27 Script Name: http://dev/untitled.cfm Started: 15:35:54.353 08-Jan-2009 Exec Time:24640ms Memory Used: (7%)36,032KB Memory Free: 468,863KB Thread ID:jrpp-9 Priority: 5 Hashcode: 18823801 jrpp-9 prio=5 tid=0x08dbc860 nid=0xef8 runnable [a69e000..a69fd90] at java.net.SocketInputStream.socketRead0(Native Method) at java.net.SocketInputStream.read(SocketInputStream.java:129) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.InputRecord.read(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) - locked 0x14be2d18 (a java.lang.Object) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.SSLSocketImpl.a(DashoA12275) at com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream.read(DashoA12275) - locked 0x14be2db8 (a com.sun.net.ssl.internal.ssl.AppInputStream) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.fill(BufferedInputStream.java:183) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read1(BufferedInputStream.java:222) at java.io.BufferedInputStream.read(BufferedInputStream.java:277) - locked 0x14c10a90 (a java.io.BufferedInputStream) at java.io.FilterInputStream.read(FilterInputStream.java:111) at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLEntityManager$RewindableInputStream.read (Unknown Source) Cheers Matthew On Jan 8, 12:55 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: No worries. Just a couple of quick replies: @Charlie; 1. Sorry I did miss your joke. No, no. The point was I wasn't making a joke (in my reference to clean air in Goulburn for Matt). When you said to MrB that there were fires, I wanted to clarify that my earlier comment wasn't a joke. I lived in Canberra and really to recall fondly the clean air in rural NSW. 2. I'll aim to type FusionReactor correctly from now (these things annoy me as well especially when you're looking for a CF job and you have to type Cold Fusion and you end up with jobs like Cold calling :)). Yeah, wasn't being pedantic. More that if one doesn't spell it right, sometimes it affects the results of searches, so was just pointing out the distinction. 3. I've already updated to v.2.0.4 (thanks for the pointer anyway). Cool. 4. I will turn on Crash Protection Alert. Very cool: and don't do abort and notify. Just notify. I persuaded to change that in 3.01 to make notify the default/first listed item in the dropdown. 5. Sorry about blaming you for bad recordings. Perhaps it's just that I listen to a lot of the ones you introduce. I should have clarified that it is rare that the recording misses the start and to be honest I think it was only once that the speaker wasn't talking into the mike properly (I think it was the Design Patterns from 2nd Oct 08). Anyway, forget the negative comment, the recordings are great and thanks for collating them so cleanly. OK, so just wanted to be clear, since the CF meetup recordings are just a subset of all the UGTV. But if you mean the CFmeetup meetings, yes, some speakers aren't as clear as others. I meet them before the meeting to check that, and if they lapse again during the talk people will complain. Sometimes, though, it just can't be helped if there's either a network or mic issue on their end. If I detect that during the advanced prep with them, I would strive to get them to fix it before the meeting, for sure. But no problem offering the feedback. Always welcome. /charlie --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
Hi everyone, Thanks for the responses. @MrBuzzy: I feared this was the problem. @Charlie: No, the web service is not on the same machine. I'm pretty sure it's not written in CF either. It's from a 3rd party. It is a core part of the website (used by many users) however I still don't want it to bring the website down. Especially because even when the web service is back up the website is still hung (it doesn't recover). We setup Fusion Reactor once before but it chewed up so much disk space logging everything that we had to kill it (the problem is so intermitent that we need to leave Fusion Reactor running all the time until a hang occurs however the logs expand too quickly). Sometimes we get the AxisFault: Read Timeout message but this is fine because it doesn't crash the server. I think this happens when the 3rd party provided correctly disables there web service, where as when the hand occurs I think it's some other part of there system which has crashed i.e. perhaps their web service system is up but the underlying business servers are down and they don't have timeouts in place (or perhaps there timeout is longer than my 60s). By the way: it wouldn't be possible to cache the results because the data is different each time. Each user requests different data. It sounds like there is no easy solution to this because CF simply won't timeout correctly - bummer. Perhaps I could write a Java class which does the liasing with this 3rd party web service however I guess this would still have the same problem because the Java class would be called by CF so the request not timing out issue would still happen anyway? Cheers Matthew On Jan 7, 8:15 am, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Zac, your idea is interesting, but the short timeout would not be helpful. The lock timeout only says how long a contending lock request would be willing to wait. In the case Matthew describes, if he was going to use a lock to prevent concurrent execution of the code, he'd really want a very long lock, to preclude other requests trying to execute it. But it really wouldn't be the solution to the problem, as now the request threads would tie up with people waiting on the lock. :-) No, what's really needed is to stop the long-running pages (the web service being called, assuming as I asserted in the last note that these are running on the same server that's calling them.) That's down to determining what they're doing that's taking so long. And while I wanted to say this in reply to Matthew's other thread, I don't want you guys seeing 4 messages from me popping up, so I'll say it here: Matthew, it would seem one solution for you (assuming you can't control how long the called web service takes to run) would be to cache the web service result so that you don't call it so often. There's no built-in support for caching web service calls (like we have with CFQUERY), but it's easy enough to save it into a shared scope (session, application, or server, depending on the nature of the data being returned and how you use it), and write some code that watches for when to refresh or purge the cached result. Not trivial, but perhaps the idea is enough to get you started. If not, let us know other challenges that preclude it. /charlie -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaus...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Zac Spitzer Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2009 4:27 AM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE? there's nothing funky that could be doe here using cfthread? try putting an exclusive lock around it with a short timeout ie 4s will stop other connections also getting stuck.. all depends on the app and scale... but if it keeps the app up... On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, MrBuzzy mrbu...@gmail.com wrote: Oh this old chestnut :) What you are doing is correct, but the timeout can not be enforced by ColdFusion until AFTER the external net connection has completed. I realise I'm not describing it very well. Basically it's an inherrent problem with the java class that handles http connections. ColdFusion can not respond until the network connection 'gives back'. It can also occur with CFHTTP and others. If your service is genuninely 'hung' and gives nothing back, that connection will remain open for a long time. Not even FusionReactor can kill it :) (I'm guessing the 60 second time out you are experiencing is on the web service itself). On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 4:57 PM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all I'm using CFINVOKE to make a web service call and I've added the timeout attribute but it's not timing out. I've set it to 5 secounds and wrapped the block in a CFTIMER tag (to confirm the duration) but it's still hanging on for 60 seconds (I'm guessing the 60s is the default timeout setting in CF). I need to override the default timeout for this specific
[cfaussie] Re: JRUN hanging
Hi Kai Thanks for the tip. I have already tried connecting the JConsole from my local dev machine to the live server but can't get it to connect. Perhaps I've got the port wrong. How do you work out which port the CF JVM is listening on? I'm looking into the Thread Dump idea (I've just finished reading the Adobe article you spoke of) however there is a lot to understand. Anyway, I've switched everything on so I can take a Thread Dump next time the server appears to hang (or what is really called SPINNING) however I don't think this will help in any great way. I'm pretty certain that whatever monitoring solution I find it will tell me what I already know, which is that because a big part of the website relies on a web service call to a 3rd party which goes down sometimes and because CFINVOKE won't obey the timeout parameter then I'll always have this problem. I need to work out a way to detect that the web service is out and disable it before too many users on the website instantiate a connection which won't timeout properly and cause the server to go into a spin. I will continue to investigate. If anyone else wants to chime in please feel free! By the way; is there anyway to get a report/graph which shows how much memory each variable is taking up i.e. can you take a snapshot at a moment in time to show all the session variables and how much memory they are costing? Cheers Matthew On Jan 7, 11:10 am, Kai Koenig k...@bloginblack.de wrote: As far as I can remember JConsole will just run on Java5+. That being said you should be able to run it on a Java 5 JVM and hook it remotely to inspect an app on 1.4 - I'm pretty sure though that you'd be limited in which information you can get. There's also a knowledgebase article somewhere on Adobe.com how to create a thread dump. Cheers Kai I don't believe JConsole will natively hook into Java 1.4. Sounds like you're going to doing thread dumps. Do a google search for them, and you will find several articles. Mark On Wed, Jan 7, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Sorry, I should have given more info. @Steve: I'm not sure if it's a CF web service but I'm pretty sure it isn't. I think it may be Java. @Mark: not sure which point you were refering to with your first question? It's running on a CF7 server. So I'm guessing I'll need to use JConsole. Where do I start? Cheers Matthew On Jan 7, 7:42 am, Mark Mandel mark.man...@gmail.com wrote: What makes you think this is the case? What version of CF are you on? If you are on CF8, you can use either - snapshots via the server monitor, a tool like JConsole, or thread dumps to find out exactly what is causing the infinite loop. Mark On Tue, Jan 6, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Matthew matthewbchamb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone From time to time our website appears to hand. I believe it is CF (or JRun) chocking because each time it happens I can still connect to the web server via FTP, RDP, DB access. When I look at the Task Manager jrun.exe is using max CPU. If I restart the CF service or End Process on jrun.exe everything recovers. I'm pretty sure I know which bit of code is causing the problem. It's a web service call to a 3rd party (used quite a lot by users on the website). Most of the time when the website hangs I can't browse to the 3rd party's web service. I've tried setting timeouts on the web service call by using CFINVOKE, CreateObject, CFOBJECT etc but no improvement. I need to allow for up to 60s because some of the calls are quite complex. I'm trying to work out why it's hanging. I suspect that because CF is allowing 8 simaltaneous requests and each gets 60 seconds then once all these slots are taken up everyone else goes on a queue and with all that load the server appears to hang because it's in constant use i.e. after 60 seconds user 1 gets his timeout so user 9 takes position 8 and round and round it goes and it never stops because with constant traffic taking up 8 request slots and all taking up resources for 60 seconds it appears to hang. Does this make sense? So the question is: how do I save the server from getting into this state. I'm thinking I need some sort of scheduled task which probes the web service every 10 seconds to work out if it's up. Perhaps if it times out (3 times just to be sure) I shut of the web service (which means the rest of the website is still up). The scheduled task keeps running until no timeout occurs and then it re-activates the web service for everyone else. Has anyone been through something like this before? How did you work around it? Cheers Matthew _ Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 web:http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz
[cfaussie] Re: Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
Hi Charlie Thanks for taking the time to respond and by the way I don't think you're a tall poppy at all. I'm running CF7. I know you've run tests to prove to yourself that a CFINVOKE web service call will timeout but it's not the case for me (nor MrBuzzy). Perhaps you ran the test to call another CF web service (even a local CF web service) but the WS I'm calling is remote and run by a 3rd party and would not be in CF. Even so, as per the simple example in my original post the 5 second timeout simply does not work. I tested it when the 3rd party WS was up numerous times and it never timed out (in fact I just tried it again and as always it ignored the timeout attribute and ran for about 60s - the CFTIMER wrapper reads 63927ms). Just to confirm, the WS is returning data however it took 63927ms however it should have timed out after 5s as per the timeout attribute. To be honest I didn't give Fusion Reactor a fair go. It was well over a year ago and it was the sys-admin guy who installed it and it was him who complained about it chewing up disk space. He wouldn't let me have a look at it so I never got to try and solve it myself. I've got access now so I'll re-install and play around with it some more. As you say, I need to confirm which line of code is causing the hang. Appreciate the comment about caching but believe me there would be no point caching the WS call/data in this situation. Once the call is made and data is returned the user will either make a choice and move on or they will re-run a query with different criteria hence a new WS call needs to be made. Cheers Matthew On Jan 7, 12:41 pm, charlie arehart charlie_li...@carehart.org wrote: Matthew, what version of CF are you running? I said I've demonstrated that CF 7 and 8 WILL timeout a CFINVOKE webservice call. I showed the error message I get when it does that. As for FusionReactor chewing up disk space, I have to ask what you mean. It has a fixed default max file size of 10 meg for logs, time 5 rotations. With 5 logs, that means the most it would use would be 250 mb. :-) Now, you could have cranked that up, but even making it 100 meg as the max size would be no more than 2.5 GB. I doubt that would constitute chewing up disk space. Rather, I could see a problem if you enabled a feature called request capture (on the Request Settings page). That instead has no limit and it logs every page request and response. But it has bold warnings on the page and even offers a pop up as a last ditch to warn of the disk space it will use. IF you turned that on by mistake, somehow, I could see it being a cause of disk space use, but I hope this explanation will allow you (or others) to reconsider the assertion that fusionreactor chews up disk space. On the contrary, the logs (the other ones, not the request capture) are to me one of the most valuable part of the tool, something that neither CF 8 monitor nor SeeFusion do. And if nothing else, you could use its crash protection notification feature to tell you when the situation is arising. But note that you can turn off even the other forms of logging entirely, so don't let that stop you from using the tool. You say, Sometimes we get the AxisFault: Read Timeout message but this is fine. Well, that's (nearly) the text of error message I quoted you when CF does timeout a CFINVOKE of a webservice. Are you sure that you're not in fact successfully stopping the web service call after all? You started the discussion by saying that the server seems to hang. Have you or have you not used some tool to tell you what requests are in fact running at the time of this seeming hang? It need not be a black box, though naturally for most CFers it can feel that way. Again, if one has the CF 8 monitor, SeeFusion, or FusionReactor, they can see exactly what requests are running. It seems that's the first thing you need to confirm. Then you said, I'm pretty sure I know which bit of code is causing the problem. Well, here's another valuable feature of all 3 tools: they can show you exactly what line of code a seemingly hung request is running. Called the stack trace feature in all 3 tools, it allows you to see down to the live of CFML code what a request is doing when you request the stack trace. Then it's no longer a guess. If you view the stack trace for a given request over 2 or 3 intervals (a few seconds apart) and it's stuck on the same line of code, well then you can know precisely what the problem is. No more guessing. I apologize to you, Matthew, or anyone else reading this, if it all comes off as too tall poppy. I just spend my days solving these kind of problems for people, using all the tools I've mentioned. I just want to share my impassioned plea for you and others to take advantage of them when you have a problem. You've had concerns, and I've tried to counter them. I'm not doing it to take the piss. I'm just pleading that you don't stop where you have
[cfaussie] Timeout not working on CFINVOKE?
Hi all I'm using CFINVOKE to make a web service call and I've added the timeout attribute but it's not timing out. I've set it to 5 secounds and wrapped the block in a CFTIMER tag (to confirm the duration) but it's still hanging on for 60 seconds (I'm guessing the 60s is the default timeout setting in CF). I need to override the default timeout for this specific web service call only. Any ideas? cftimer label=Web service call type=inline cfinvoke webservice=#WSDL# method=doSearch returnvariable=SearchResult timeout=5 cfinvokeargument name=in0 value=foo / /cfinvoke /cftimer Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] JRUN hanging
Hi everyone From time to time our website appears to hand. I believe it is CF (or JRun) chocking because each time it happens I can still connect to the web server via FTP, RDP, DB access. When I look at the Task Manager jrun.exe is using max CPU. If I restart the CF service or End Process on jrun.exe everything recovers. I'm pretty sure I know which bit of code is causing the problem. It's a web service call to a 3rd party (used quite a lot by users on the website). Most of the time when the website hangs I can't browse to the 3rd party's web service. I've tried setting timeouts on the web service call by using CFINVOKE, CreateObject, CFOBJECT etc but no improvement. I need to allow for up to 60s because some of the calls are quite complex. I'm trying to work out why it's hanging. I suspect that because CF is allowing 8 simaltaneous requests and each gets 60 seconds then once all these slots are taken up everyone else goes on a queue and with all that load the server appears to hang because it's in constant use i.e. after 60 seconds user 1 gets his timeout so user 9 takes position 8 and round and round it goes and it never stops because with constant traffic taking up 8 request slots and all taking up resources for 60 seconds it appears to hang. Does this make sense? So the question is: how do I save the server from getting into this state. I'm thinking I need some sort of scheduled task which probes the web service every 10 seconds to work out if it's up. Perhaps if it times out (3 times just to be sure) I shut of the web service (which means the rest of the website is still up). The scheduled task keeps running until no timeout occurs and then it re-activates the web service for everyone else. Has anyone been through something like this before? How did you work around it? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to cfaussie+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed
@Steve, Thanks for the response but I don't think you've understood me correctly. I'll try to explain myself again. Perhaps there is a CF web service guru out there that can help? When building a web service, should the input arguments be a single XML document (which defines the input parameters) or should you just have an argument for each parameter. Or are both options acceptable? It makes more sense to me to have a argument for each parameter otherwise if you have an XML doc as the input you have to write your own XML parser / validator. This is all built right into CF when you choose access=remote. I've been doing a little more reading and noted that you can distribute your web service as an RPC (default in CF) or as document- literal style. I think the RPC system is the way I've been discussing and the document-literal style option is the alternative where you pass in a full XML document. Is RPC easier but compatible with fewer technologies? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed
Further to the previous question: when you prepare the return data for a function where access=remote would you build an XML document and return it or would you just return the data in whatever datatype is required e.g. string, numeric, array, struct etc. Then the underlying CF builds it into an XML soap packet to send it back to the caller/ client? It just seems crazy to me to do all the dusiness work of your function and then have to additionally build an XML packet for returning. The whole point of CF is to make life easy so you just return the array or whatever and CF converts it into XML. Are both options correct? NOTE: I'm aware that in some scenarios you would want to return an XML document as part of the return package but lets keep it to returning simple strings, numbers, arrarys for now. Cheers Matthew On Nov 11, 1:41 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @Steve, Thanks for the response but I don't think you've understood me correctly. I'll try to explain myself again. Perhaps there is a CF web service guru out there that can help? When building a web service, should the input arguments be a single XML document (which defines the input parameters) or should you just have an argument for each parameter. Or are both options acceptable? It makes more sense to me to have a argument for each parameter otherwise if you have an XML doc as the input you have to write your own XML parser / validator. This is all built right into CF when you choose access=remote. I've been doing a little more reading and noted that you can distribute your web service as an RPC (default in CF) or as document- literal style. I think the RPC system is the way I've been discussing and the document-literal style option is the alternative where you pass in a full XML document. Is RPC easier but compatible with fewer technologies? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed
@steve + @adam; thanks for that advice. I'm glad I asked before I went and refactored all the code. Thanks a million. I'll be interested to see what others have to say. On Nov 11, 2:32 pm, Adam Chapman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew, I second Steve on the point below.. I have pulled out many a hair trying to get complex datatypes to send/parse correctly between different platforms. They work nicely between CF and CF, but try with CF and .NET and the 'fun' begins. Regards, Adam -Original Message- From: Steve Onnis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2008 2:07 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed All CF datatypes are converted to SOAP equivalents So it says but i have seen time and time again issues with the soap conversion and datatyping issues, especially with .NET Using XML you know exactly what you are getting. Thats my reason. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 2:04 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed @Steve, thanks again for replying. CF can handle complex data types no problem. All CF datatypes are converted to SOAP equivalents (http:// livedocs.adobe.com/coldfusion/7/htmldocs/1547.htm#1186403). As per my latest post it just seems crazy to have to write an additional XML parser to deciffer the XML submitted by the client (you'd need a whole lot of validation logic as well). Same goes for sending the data back - why not just let CF covert the objects into their equivalent SOAP datatypes. I can't see any benefit for receiving XML packets and returning XML packets!?!?!? Can anyone comment on reasons to do this? Cheers Matthew On Nov 11, 1:55 pm, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathews Its either/or. I preferred the XML way so that's the way it was built. I guess what I was trying to say in my last email is there isn't a right/wrong way, just what ever fits better with what you are trying to do. Its easier to search xml than it is to try and parse arguments if some arguments are not required to be passed in. Also I don't know if you will have issues with things like passing in arrays and stuff into the web service because of the data types possibly not being maintained in the request. This is where XML is better as you don't need to worry about it and you can handle it all in your web service. Steve -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 1:41 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed @Steve, Thanks for the response but I don't think you've understood me correctly. I'll try to explain myself again. Perhaps there is a CF web service guru out there that can help? When building a web service, should the input arguments be a single XML document (which defines the input parameters) or should you just have an argument for each parameter. Or are both options acceptable? It makes more sense to me to have a argument for each parameter otherwise if you have an XML doc as the input you have to write your own XML parser / validator. This is all built right into CF when you choose access=remote. I've been doing a little more reading and noted that you can distribute your web service as an RPC (default in CF) or as document- literal style. I think the RPC system is the way I've been discussing and the document-literal style option is the alternative where you pass in a full XML document. Is RPC easier but compatible with fewer technologies? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed
Perhaps the answer is to provide 2 web service interfaces - one for XML consumers and the other for SOAP consumers. If you build the XML version first it shouldn't be that hard to build a SOAP version as well... as long as the web service's have absolutely no business logic in them. The SOAP web service CFC would have inputs parameters and forward everything onto a service object. The XML web service CFC would be a little more complicated because it would have all the XML parsing, validating etc and then forward the request onto the same service object. Cheers Matthew On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One potential argument against XML in and XML out is that this is more work for the consumer / client. They have to covert build an XML packet to submit to the web service and then they have to parse / validate / pull apart the XML packet which I return to them. Where as if I was to use the scenario where your input and output parameters are strings, numbers, arrays, objects etc (and let CF covert them to their SOAP equivalents - which Kai obviously hates) then surely it would be easier for the consumer. From experience with web services that I've consumed in the past the web service must be returning SOAP data types to CF because I end up with a object which as you unpack it you get objects within objects and eventually you get down to the string, numbers, arrays etc. This makes sense to me because otherwise I'd have to parse the returned XML and then convert it all into CF data types before I could do anything with it (i.e. store some of it in the DB and display some of it to the user). What have other people experienced? Cheers Matthew On Nov 11, 2:41 pm, Kai Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, Dream on! :-) Well - they are coverted to SOAP equivalents, nothing wrong so far. As Steve has pointed out - there are various complex issues when it comes to complex data types cross-platform interoperability - converting types to .NET is one of the easier tasks. Start about including proper webservice security, authentication etc. and you're totally lost with CF. CF's Axis-integration follows the code-first principle, i.e. you write code and all the magic (WSDL) is done for you. Unfortunately that's one of the worst approaches one could follow when it comes to web services, it should always be contract first and the implementations should be derived from a shared interface in WSDL. CF to CF webservices though are expected to work fine. When it comes to any serious webservice integration with CF though (WS-*, complex types to .NET etc.) I'd not use it or rather go with a custom XML API. Cheer Kai All CF datatypes are converted to SOAP equivalents _ Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 web:http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog:http://www.bloginblack.de _ Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 web:http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog:http://www.bloginblack.de --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed
@Steve, true but if you are trying to minimise work for the consumer / client and they preferred SOAP than all I'm pointing out is that it shouldn't be too hard to accommodate this. Going for the XML method as the main web service interface make sense. Thanks everyone for your help. Cheers Matthew On Nov 11, 5:06 pm, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And why would you do that? All you are doing is creating more work for yourself. When it comes down to it, you need to make it as easy to manage and use as possible. With consideration for the level of compatibility with ColdFusion's web service implementation and how it handles soap requests, I and a number of other people have already recommended to avoid using the native soap data types and use an xml method. in the end, xml is xml and that's it. No data type problems or anything. If you need to check the data, check it and throw the error with cf. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Tuesday, 11 November 2008 5:02 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Building a web service - can you pass in XML or should the arguments be data typed Perhaps the answer is to provide 2 web service interfaces - one for XML consumers and the other for SOAP consumers. If you build the XML version first it shouldn't be that hard to build a SOAP version as well... as long as the web service's have absolutely no business logic in them. The SOAP web service CFC would have inputs parameters and forward everything onto a service object. The XML web service CFC would be a little more complicated because it would have all the XML parsing, validating etc and then forward the request onto the same service object. Cheers Matthew On Nov 11, 3:55 pm, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One potential argument against XML in and XML out is that this is more work for the consumer / client. They have to covert build an XML packet to submit to the web service and then they have to parse / validate / pull apart the XML packet which I return to them. Where as if I was to use the scenario where your input and output parameters are strings, numbers, arrays, objects etc (and let CF covert them to their SOAP equivalents - which Kai obviously hates) then surely it would be easier for the consumer. From experience with web services that I've consumed in the past the web service must be returning SOAP data types to CF because I end up with a object which as you unpack it you get objects within objects and eventually you get down to the string, numbers, arrays etc. This makes sense to me because otherwise I'd have to parse the returned XML and then convert it all into CF data types before I could do anything with it (i.e. store some of it in the DB and display some of it to the user). What have other people experienced? Cheers Matthew On Nov 11, 2:41 pm, Kai Koenig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, Dream on! :-) Well - they are coverted to SOAP equivalents, nothing wrong so far. As Steve has pointed out - there are various complex issues when it comes to complex data types cross-platform interoperability - converting types to .NET is one of the easier tasks. Start about including proper webservice security, authentication etc. and you're totally lost with CF. CF's Axis-integration follows the code-first principle, i.e. you write code and all the magic (WSDL) is done for you. Unfortunately that's one of the worst approaches one could follow when it comes to web services, it should always be contract first and the implementations should be derived from a shared interface in WSDL. CF to CF webservices though are expected to work fine. When it comes to any serious webservice integration with CF though (WS-*, complex types to .NET etc.) I'd not use it or rather go with a custom XML API. Cheer Kai All CF datatypes are converted to SOAP equivalents _ Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 web:http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog:http://www.bloginblack.de _ Kai Koenig - Ventego Creative Ltd ph: +64 4 476 6781 - mob: +64 21 928 365 / +61 450 132 117 web:http://www.ventego-creative.co.nz blog:http://www.bloginblack.de --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] cfdocument issue - header / footer cutting off content
Hi I'm using cfdocument format=pdf to create a pdf version of a web page. I'm using cfdocumentitem type=header (as well as the footer) to show the logo, copyright etc. However when the content includes a table and the table wraps over 2 pages the table is being cropped by the header. It's as if when the table content is continued on the next page it is being started at the very top of the page rather than after the header! Does anyone know how to fix this? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: cfdocument issue - header / footer cutting off content
@Chris; you're a star! That worked a treat. On Oct 31, 12:56 pm, Chris Velevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you have your page size, top and bottom margins set correctly? Chris -- Chris Velevitch Manager - Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney m: 0415 469 095www.apugs.org.au Adobe Platform Users Group, Sydney November meeting: TBD Date: Mon 24th November 6pm for 6:30 start Details and RSVP to follow --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Version control + ColdFusion development
Hi everyone, Setup: Windows environment, IIS, CF7, Eclipse I'm looking to apply version control to a website I'm working on and would appreciate any recommendations on how best to set everything up in regards to version control + CF coding. If you can't be bothered to ready the long winded post below than a snapshot of your version control + CF dev setup would be helpful e.g. when do you tag, branch etc and how do you get versions live to production? Question: I've install Subversion etc and am at the point where I've got a repository setup on a shared server with a fresh copy of the website code as of today in the trunk and I've tagged it as version 1.0. I've then checked it out (should I checkout the tag or the trunk by the way?) and all works perfectly ready to start / edit code. However I'm looking for advice on when to branch / tag? The added complication is that I'm often working on multiple projects involving this one website (e.g. whilst waiting for QA testing on one project or waiting on resources etc) so how do you tackle this? Perhaps some examples will help: One of my current tasks is to migrate the website from MySql to Sql Server. All the database work has been done so all I need to do now is modify several queries throughout the website. In this instance would you create a branch (v1.0.1) from the tag (v1.0) and checkout this new branch? I've tried this and checkout out branch 1.0.1 into a new Eclipse project but this of course has created a new directory and therefore my development environment doesn't point at this project folder. So would you reconfigure CF, IIS etc to all point to this new folder whilst working on this branch? Lets say in a few days time this branch is ready to go and is with the QA department and I want to crack on with another project for this website so would I create branch v1.0.2 and check this out into another Eclipse project and therefore have to reconfigure all my dev environment settings? Lets say v1.0.2 is approved before v1.0.1 so would you pust v1.0.2 live to production server and the merge v1.0.1 and v1.0.2 into v1.0.3 in order to get v1.0.1 changes live? Perhaps this example of working on 2 or more projects is a little unusual so lets try a more common scenario: lets say you've got a team of 3 developers. Each developer is assigned a project so would you create 3 branches (one for each)? They go off and program away (checking in their code to the trunk each night) and the first one comes back and is finished. So you test etc and then are ready to live so would you tag his branched version as v1.0.1 at this point? Then developer 2 finishes so you test etc and are ready to go live so would you checkout the tagged version v1.0.1, merge in his branch, test again and than tag the combined version as v1.0.2? A few other questions; - I assume that the Repo administrator would be in charge of creating branches / tags etc? The developers are just told the name of the branch that they should checkout and instruct them to checkin their changes to the trunk each night? - How do you get a stable version (or tagged version) live to the production server?!?!? Do you simple checkout a tagged version and then FTP it up to the production server? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SQL INJECTION
Hi Claude As you pointed out the cfqueryparam is the best bet however even though we had cfqueryparam and weren't affected it was still anyoying getting all the errors on the logs so we added the following to Application.cfm: cfif reFindNocase(declare,cgi.query_string)cfcontent reset=Yescfheader statuscode=403 statustext=Access deniedcfabort//cfif Cheers Matthew On Sep 26, 10:13 am, Claude Raiola [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, We have just had an SQL injection attack. Given we have several hundred cold fusion pages and the sql database as several hundred tables has anyone found a reliable solution where why script can be placed in the application.cfm page that will prevent code being appended to queries as a viable alternative to having to edit every query across the 100's of pages use the appropriate cfqueryparam . Regards Claude Raiola B.Econ (Acc), B.Hot.Mngt. Websites: www.AustralianAccommodation.com www.SAMARIS.NET www.WebSiteSolutions.com.au Mobile: 0414 228 948 --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Version control + ColdFusion development
Hi Kym Thanks very much for such a detailed response. So just to be 100% sure of what you're saying: 1. You should only ever one version of the code on your dev machine i.e. if you're working on one branch (Branch A) but need to swap to another branch (Branch B) than you should check in Branch A and checkout Branch B i.e. Branch B overrides Branch A in your working copy. This makes sense because you wouldn't want to have more than one project checked out at anyone time. Would you recommend checking in daily work to the branch, trunk or both? 2. Once you've completed a branch, check it back in, copy it to a tag (i.e. latest version ready for production), and perhaps delete the Branch to clean things up. Then export the tagged version for Production via SVN or FTP or whatever you prefer. So essentially the production server could have Subversion installed and it's working copy is the code which is live. So all you are doing is checking out a tagged version from shared server to production server when you upgrade to new version. Makes sense! 3. All I've got to work out now is how to override my dev working copy in Eclipse because so far I've only worked out how to checkout a version into a new project... I'll keep playing around. I guess the other option is to try Tortoise as per your switching suggestion. Thanks a million again! Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Version control + ColdFusion development
Hi Kym Thanks once again for taking the time to respond (and for clarifying various points). I've had a quick look at Eclipse and hunted around and finally found the Switching thing you've been talking about... if anyone else is looking for it it you just right click on your project (or Working Copy) in the Navigator and then choose Replace With, then choose Tag / Branch, then the popup screen finally says Switching :):) Sorry for the confusion when I said Check In - I did mean Commit as per your correction. Everything else sounds fine. I promise that I will read that book, but as with everything these days we never have enough time for everything (or anything for that matter) so we (or perhaps I) try to speed learn everything. Thanks everyone for accommodating my laziness :) Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Constant query injection attacks
Hi guys Over the past few months we've been getting 1000s of errors from some idiot trying to hit us with a query injection attack (I've read on several forums that these hackers have given up on ASP sites and are now targeting CF site). Fortunately we didn't get stung because of good queryparaming however it's just annoying getting 100s of errors each day!! I very carefully unpacked the string and as per my guess it was setup to modify every record in every DB table and populate it with a reference back to a supposed .js file on a server in China. The .js file tries to download a .exe which would probably be a virus. There's no point trying to block their IP because they IP jump across 100s of addresses. I'm going to build in a fix to block the errors i.e. scan the query string for a 'declare' reference and kill it however does anyone know where I can report these guys to? The .js file lives at www.ppexe.com, which when I do a whois lookup there are minimal details and they're all in Chinese. Word of advice to all: DON'T FORGET TO CFQUERYPARM/ Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Constant query injection attacks
Hi Kevin: Just what I was thinking - thanks! Hi Andrew: we are co-located so do you mean go to the ISP of the nocs center provider? Anyway, I doubt the AFP would even lift a pen/batton. I was hoping that there'd be some sort of international internet body that investigates complaints. Oh well, I'll just have to block the buggers. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Constant query injection attacks
I like that idea Seona. We need some sort of go and sit in the corner place on the WWW :) --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: is there a more efficent way of finding keys in FORM scope?
Hi Barry, I use a similar method to what Kevan has suggested. On the original form page I have a hidden form element which stores a list of all the form names which I want to look over on the action page. It works a treat. All you have to do is as you're building the original form page you dynamically create a string which you keep appending all the form field names to. Then you just shove this string into your hidden field. This means that on the action page you just loop through the list stored in the hidden field. You obviously have to write validation code in case you are dealing with checkboxes (because checkboxes wont be Defined if un-checked). The brilliance of this solution is that when you loop through that hidden field list you can be confident that you created all those fields on the previous page, where as with your current solution you are looping unnecessarily and doing a lot of guess work. Buy the way; to use this solution you'll need to familiarise yourself with the Evaluate() and DE functions for usage on the action page to test and extract the values from these dynamically named field names e.g. Evaluate(form.hdnPersPBA_X). Hope this helps! Cheers Matthew On May 3, 12:47 pm, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure you need this any more I'm always up for learning better ways, so your ideas/help aren't wasted (thanx). Besides, finishing at 3:00am this morning gives me the nagging feeling I'll be doing a Schwarzenegger [1] In your original form add another field called something like hdnPersPBA_fields (and perhaps selPersTit_fields) which contains a dynamically built list of the fields you need: hdnPersPBA_1,hdnPersPBA_2,...,hdnPersPBA_n Then when the form is posted, you have a known set of fields to extract from the form scope. u mean: keep a record of what was created ( via the JS that's used to clone new form elements and inject them into the DOM) and submit that list as hdnPersPBA_fields.value? Yeah, that'd work, although I'd also have to remove them from that list when the user hits the I don't want those new text boxes anymore buttons. [1] ...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I'll_be_back --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: is there a more efficent way of finding keys in FORM scope?
Why do you say that Zac? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Who is working for whom in Sydney, and are they looking for new people?
So what entails a good developer? I thought Sydney was the hot spot for CF jobs, Melbourne less so and Adelaide would be near impossible. So does this mean that Sydney is slowing down on CF jobs now? Are all these CF is on the way out comments becoming true? I wonder if Daemon dabble outside of CF? On Apr 22, 6:30 pm, Steve Onnis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think its more its hard to get GOOD developers -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 6:11 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Who is working for whom in Sydney, and are they looking for new people? Isn't it funny employers say its hard to get developers and developers say its hard to get work. On 4/22/08, Eliseo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dale, Already tried that... Seek have recycled through multiple recruiters the same jobs over the last 3 months. I know because I had applied for most of these roles not long after being made redundant by Commander in late January... ;) LOL I say most as the remaining roles are interstate... and I doubt my wife could handle me being away, not to mention it would also mean having to arrange accommodation etc... But I'll give another crack at Gruden though... ~ Eliseo On Apr 22, 4:30 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you tried seek? Seem to be a lot of jobs in there? Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com/http://learncf.com http://flexcf.com/http://flexcf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rae Buerckner Sent: Tuesday, 22 April 2008 4:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Who is working for whom in Sydney, and are they looking for new people? http://www.gruden.com.au/index.cfm/p/jobs On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 3:49 PM, barry.b [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in Brisbane so the jobs I know of will be no use to you... I'd post on CFJobs, but the activity is so slow there, responses from there is unlikely... I'm not so sure about that. I wonder how many cfaussie ppl are NOT on cfjobs as well? if ppl are long term employees then perhaps not, although all it takes is the boss to ask them to throw a job up and they sign up. I know that cfjobs is just for announcing positions vacant - I wonder if cfjobs would have more value to be the discussion about jobs going, working conditions, remuneration, recruiters and recruting, training and upskilling, qualifications and certification, etc (some of these topics have appeared here by default - I wonder if they might be best served on a revamped cfjobs list instead of this list?) talked to any recruiters about short-term contracts? sometimes you can get offered a permanant position because of this (see how well you work, get used to the place, etc). --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: 301 redirect based on Query String
Hi Sean, Thanks for the interesting history! In regards to using ISAPI ReWrite; I thought of using this (in fact I will be on a new project) however I don't think that it would still solve my problem, because to create a 301 in IIS it is my understanding that you open up IIS, right click on the file you wish to 301 and change the properties etc. However with your example there is no abc.htm, therefore you couldn't right click on this file, right? You'd have to right click on index.cfm but you'd end up with the same problem. Perhaps I'm missing something? My thinking is that ISAPI ReWrite sits in front of IIS (I know it's part of it but just for painting a picture bare with me), so esentially IIS never sees / product/abc.htm because it sees index.cfm?product=abc Am I right? I'll go and read Sarah's article now. Cheers Matthew On Dec 19, 2:07 pm, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew - The relevant RFC (1738) was written in '94 and includes a whole bunch of specifications for gopher. Nobody was really doing what your doing on the web in 94. RFC 2616 defines 301's and was written in 99 - and even then, the sort of complex data display that you're dealing with was pretty uncommon. The specs were written with the expectation that you would have /product/abc.htm, /product/def.htm. Ideally, use URL rewrites to present search engines with what the RFC's tell them to expect, but keep your application developer friendly in the background. If you can't do that you have to weight up developer time vs search engine impact. Matthew wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback. BRETT/ANDREW: you're right, my problem is that SE's are trying to spider to this page (and cloging up my inbox with errors) hence why I want to 301 so that the SE's learn about the new page. SEAN: what you've said makes sense but out of interest how else would you build a website without re-using a page? That's the point of URL parameters isn't it? Cheers again everyone. On Dec 19, 12:30 pm, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be wondering whether this is really a 301 problem though. Isn't it just that the product no longer exists? index.cfm still exists. Is there some danger that search engines will start to drop indexes for your index.cfm urls? Like I said... just wondering out loud really... B) Matthew wrote: Hi guys, I've renamed several pages on a website and I'd like to setup 301 redirects, however I can't find out a way to do this based on the query string. Here's an example to explain: OLD URL: index.cfm?product=abc NEW URL: index.cfm?product=def Everything I've ready on IIS 301 redirects seems to imply that you can only have a 301 per file and not take into account a query string attribute. Therefore in the example above all calls to index.cfm would be redirected! So am I right in say that I'll have to do the 301 in my CF code i.e. withing index.cfm have the following: cfif url.product eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/index.cfm? product=def /cfif Cheers Matthew -- Brett Payne-Rhodes Eaglehawk Computing t: +61 (0)8 9371-0471 m: +61 (0)414 371 047 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:www.yoursite.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: 301 redirect based on Query String
SOLVED: It looks like the best way to setup 301's is in ISAPI ReWrite. This tool allows you to re-write any URL and therefore in my example I can easily map index.cfm?product=abc to index.cfm?product=def The downfall of setting up 301's directly in the IIS manager is that you have to keep the files on the server which is messy. So say if you had 100 pages named 1.htm - 100.htm and you wanted to get rid of them, well in IIS you'd have to keep all of them in your website and create 301's for all of them (what a mess). Whereas with ISAPI ReWrite you can easily setup a rule (something like: RewriteRule ^/([1-100]) \.htm$ /foor.cfm?$1 [L,I,RP] NOTE: I've not tested the RULE above, it's just an example. NOTE2: The RP in the [L,I,RP]] is a Permanant Redirect, which is the same as a 301, which means all SE's should be happy. So in conclusion: if you are making pages redundant on a website install ISAPI ReWrite and write a rule to redirect all those pages! FYI: I have no ties with ISAPI ReWrite, just thought I'd share my findings. Cheers Matthew On Dec 20, 9:33 am, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Matthew, I'm guessing a bit about how your app works, but I'd think, the code snippet listed earlier should work fine if you use URL rewrites- cfif productidentifier eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/blah/products/def product=def /cfif From the perspective of the search engine - their crawler sends a get towww.domain.com/blah/products/abc- and assumes that it's gotten to a default document. It then gets back a response that contains moved permanently headers, so it will update it's record set and everything will be as happy as it's going to get. Matthew wrote: Hi Sean, Thanks for the interesting history! In regards to using ISAPI ReWrite; I thought of using this (in fact I will be on a new project) however I don't think that it would still solve my problem, because to create a 301 in IIS it is my understanding that you open up IIS, right click on the file you wish to 301 and change the properties etc. However with your example there is no abc.htm, therefore you couldn't right click on this file, right? You'd have to right click on index.cfm but you'd end up with the same problem. Perhaps I'm missing something? My thinking is that ISAPI ReWrite sits in front of IIS (I know it's part of it but just for painting a picture bare with me), so esentially IIS never sees / product/abc.htm because it sees index.cfm?product=abc Am I right? I'll go and read Sarah's article now. Cheers Matthew On Dec 19, 2:07 pm, Sean Bucklar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Matthew - The relevant RFC (1738) was written in '94 and includes a whole bunch of specifications for gopher. Nobody was really doing what your doing on the web in 94. RFC 2616 defines 301's and was written in 99 - and even then, the sort of complex data display that you're dealing with was pretty uncommon. The specs were written with the expectation that you would have /product/abc.htm, /product/def.htm. Ideally, use URL rewrites to present search engines with what the RFC's tell them to expect, but keep your application developer friendly in the background. If you can't do that you have to weight up developer time vs search engine impact. Matthew wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback. BRETT/ANDREW: you're right, my problem is that SE's are trying to spider to this page (and cloging up my inbox with errors) hence why I want to 301 so that the SE's learn about the new page. SEAN: what you've said makes sense but out of interest how else would you build a website without re-using a page? That's the point of URL parameters isn't it? Cheers again everyone. On Dec 19, 12:30 pm, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be wondering whether this is really a 301 problem though. Isn't it just that the product no longer exists? index.cfm still exists. Is there some danger that search engines will start to drop indexes for your index.cfm urls? Like I said... just wondering out loud really... B) Matthew wrote: Hi guys, I've renamed several pages on a website and I'd like to setup 301 redirects, however I can't find out a way to do this based on the query string. Here's an example to explain: OLD URL: index.cfm?product=abc NEW URL: index.cfm?product=def Everything I've ready on IIS 301 redirects seems to imply that you can only have a 301 per file and not take into account a query string attribute. Therefore in the example above all calls to index.cfm would be redirected! So am I right in say that I'll have to do the 301 in my CF code i.e. withing index.cfm have the following: cfif url.product eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/index.cfm? product=def
[cfaussie] 301 redirect based on Query String
Hi guys, I've renamed several pages on a website and I'd like to setup 301 redirects, however I can't find out a way to do this based on the query string. Here's an example to explain: OLD URL: index.cfm?product=abc NEW URL: index.cfm?product=def Everything I've ready on IIS 301 redirects seems to imply that you can only have a 301 per file and not take into account a query string attribute. Therefore in the example above all calls to index.cfm would be redirected! So am I right in say that I'll have to do the 301 in my CF code i.e. withing index.cfm have the following: cfif url.product eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/index.cfm? product=def /cfif Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: 301 redirect based on Query String
Hi everyone, Thanks for the feedback. BRETT/ANDREW: you're right, my problem is that SE's are trying to spider to this page (and cloging up my inbox with errors) hence why I want to 301 so that the SE's learn about the new page. SEAN: what you've said makes sense but out of interest how else would you build a website without re-using a page? That's the point of URL parameters isn't it? Cheers again everyone. On Dec 19, 12:30 pm, Brett Payne-Rhodes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd be wondering whether this is really a 301 problem though. Isn't it just that the product no longer exists? index.cfm still exists. Is there some danger that search engines will start to drop indexes for your index.cfm urls? Like I said... just wondering out loud really... B) Matthew wrote: Hi guys, I've renamed several pages on a website and I'd like to setup 301 redirects, however I can't find out a way to do this based on the query string. Here's an example to explain: OLD URL: index.cfm?product=abc NEW URL: index.cfm?product=def Everything I've ready on IIS 301 redirects seems to imply that you can only have a 301 per file and not take into account a query string attribute. Therefore in the example above all calls to index.cfm would be redirected! So am I right in say that I'll have to do the 301 in my CF code i.e. withing index.cfm have the following: cfif url.product eq abc cfheader statuscode=301 statustext=Moved permanently cfheader name=Location value=http://www.new-url.com/index.cfm? product=def /cfif Cheers Matthew -- Brett Payne-Rhodes Eaglehawk Computing t: +61 (0)8 9371-0471 m: +61 (0)414 371 047 e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] w:www.yoursite.net.au --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss into getting CF8 ASAP! Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very welcoming and friendly. Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to some user group meetings! Cheers Chris Silwedel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: CFCAMP Melbourne Wrapup
Hi KC Kuok, I have disagree that the 2 conference should become one. I know for me personally that the cost of attending MAX and being to busy was why I didn't go. The fact that CFCAMP was free and just around the corner meant that I could pop in and out for the session I wanted. If I had to pay for it I wouldn't have been able to justify only attending half of the day. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents worth. I hope that CFCAMP will run every year! BTW: perhaps Adobe could take a leaf out of MS book and market CF differently to grow the community (easy to say, hard to do). But this could be a double edged sword; because if there were more CF developers out there than we'd be worth less $$$... we just need to keep it balanced between a mature decent sized community VS every man and his dog claiming that he can program in CF and diluting the market. I'm off to have a look at TransferORM now. Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 11:25 am, KC Kuok [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All the speakers were much appreciated, but especially those from overseas... can't wait for the slides from the talks to be put up, I will probably most need the one where CF is a platform that can sit and speak to the other technologies (like .Net, MS Exchange, etc) and adobes own Flash/Flex, Acrobat generation stuff. To show my management that CF has more depth and advantages then what .Net will offer. (TBH i never thought of CF that way, as a platform rather than a web language, abit of marketing there but it is true) I think many businesses will move to an all windows platform because most of management are not involved in the day to day development processes, and because of the marketing dollars MS puts in this part of the world, comparatively people will start believing MS is the best option (and sometimes the only option). CF is too good to be our dirty little secret. Such events will help to grow the community in this part of the world, and also the visibility to the decision makers. Though I do reckon the events should be planned a little more in advanced and have a bigger profile. E.g. the MAX refresh(?) and CFCAMP this year were fairly good this year, but would have been better if both were held together across 2 days? I understand that it was abit of a rush this year, but it could be a mainstay annual event for the major cities. WebDU is good, but not everyone can make it every year, due to monetary and scheduling reasons, it may scavenger WebDU in the short run, but in the long run, a bigger CF community can't hurt. In the years to come, CF and Flex developers will be the one, Adobe RIA developer ? (any such combination title yet?, via adobe certification of course) It seems there are certifications for being an instructor only for Flex and CF, that the only way to go now? Does anyone know when the CF8 certification is out? And is there any for Flex in aus yet? On Nov 23, 10:28 am, Barry Beattie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: George, the best bit is the breath and depth of Adobe technology. as the guys at the camp said (esp at the start with Adam) is how ColdFusion is part of a whole lot of Adobe stuff... Flex integration, LiveCycle Data Services is only the start. Don't just look at ColdFusion, look at the Adobe Technology stack, of which ColdFusion is right in the middle of. On Nov 23, 2007 9:23 AM, George Lu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you everyone who organised this great event. I was very enjoy it :). My management wants to move our IT environment to Microsoft platform. I'll convince my manager ColdFusion is still a decent and edge technology. PS. I'm still waiting for CF8 (we have subscribed) On 23/11/2007, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all those involved in organising CFCAMP in Melbourne yesterday. I could only spare time to come to 3 of the sessions and found them all very informative! I'm sure a lot of work goes into organising an event like this, as well as speakers sacrificing their own time to prepare and give and talk. I'm inspired to talk my boss into getting CF8 ASAP! Cheers Matthew On Nov 23, 8:45 am, silverbeetle [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This was the first Melbourne CF event that I've attended and i must say i really enjoyed the day. Can't talk long right now but i just wanted to say a big thanks to all those involved for making this day happen and of course the fantastic presenters. And thanks to the people i did get to speak to for being very welcoming and friendly. Looking forward to future CF events and making my way (finally) to some user group meetings! Cheers Chris Silwedel --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL
[cfaussie] Re: Application Locking
Hi Dale, Surely you can just try it. Ad this lock code, run user 1 through IE and then login as another user in FireFox and see what happens! I'd be interested to know the result. Cheers Matthew On Oct 19, 6:34 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not sure would it? I guess that's what im asking. If I do a named lock of that sort. Then what happens if the next user gets to that code, does it sit and wait for the lock or error. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gareth Edwards Sent: Friday, 19 October 2007 4:09 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Application Locking Wouldn't a named lock do what you need? cflock name=_lucene type=exclusive timeout=30 /cflock Could set the timeout in seconds to more if need be? Cheers Gareth. Dale Fraser wrote: It is very unlikely that this operation is being run by more than one person at a time, but it is possible. So i'm happy to just make them wait, it's 20-30 seconds. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Haikal Saadh Sent: Friday, 19 October 2007 3:18 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: Application Locking Would a better way be to show a 'Joe Bloggs is running the payroll process, come back later' message when the second person tries to perform this task? Would having all these locks make the next person doing this task wait, or will it make everyone wait? Dale Fraser wrote: What happens if I lock an application scoped variable. I have an application that can perform a task, which would cause trouble if two people were doing that task at the same time. So I thought I could either do it using an application lock block, but i'm not really sure if that would work. The operation takes 30 seconds or less, so i'd be happy for the next person to just wait until the application was ready. The second method I had in mind would be to have cfloop expression=application.locked = true !--- Do nothing and just wait --- /cfloop Not locked cfset application.locked = true / Do Task cfset application.locked = false / How would you do this. Regards Dale Fraser http://learncf.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: webservice problem
Hi Skateboard,
You will get this error if you are not passing the parameters
correctly. I spent hours tearing my hair out months ago when I was
consuming a web service I was trying to consume only to finally work
out that you need to pass every variable - for example if an array is
required than you need to pass x_variable = ArrayNew(1);
Hope this helps
Cheers
Matthew
On Oct 4, 3:53 pm, skateboard.com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi All
I'm using CF 6.1 - I can't seem to consume any webservices that have a
binary argument. I am attempting to pass a file as one of the
arguments.
it keeps on throwing this error
Web service operation load with parameters {theFile={},} could not be
found.
The webservice is there and the argument names are correct (eg..if I
change the type to string it works fine)..
any help, much appreciated
thanks
Drew
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[cfaussie] cfform stuck on loading 40%
Hi guys, Recently our flash forms stopped working, they keep getting stuck at Loading 40%. I've reversed all updates / changes which were made to the server when they stopped working. Anyone got any ideas? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Memory leak??
Hi Andrew, Did you get an answer to your problem? I can't believe that no one out there has an answer! Recently we had a similar problem with JRun using up more and more memory until it would crashed. We played around with all sorts of things to try to get it fixed. In the end we think it was as simple as lowering out simultaneous requests from 20 down to 10. Perhaps try that. Please post your resolution if you find one. Cheers Matthew On Aug 12, 9:33 am, Andrew Bateman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah thanks Taco. I have load testing tools available but I was using this approach to prove a point, ie that ColdFusion was not releasing memory. Not so much load testing as death testing. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?
Haikal I think you figured it out! I've messed around with the CFINVOKE tag (without using the CFOBJECT to initialise!) and think it will work, however I'll have to wait until the next outage from the web service source to test properly. FYI: the cflock suggestion won't work because the timeout attribute doesn't control how long to hold the lock for it actually controls how long each queued request should wait to be the next to take the lock i.e. timeout after X seconds of waiting for the request in front of me to finish with the lock - hope that makes sense. Thanks everyone for your help! Cheers On Jul 18, 1:55 pm, Haikal Saadh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's another thought: If it actually is the cfobject call that's timing out, maybe you could save the WSDL file to your server, and have it hit that? That way you won't have to worry about it timing out, and you can happily use cfinvoke timeout= / Haikal Saadh wrote: So it's the actual cfobject tag that's timing out? Not the subsequent cfinvoke? cfinvoke seems to have a timeout parameter. (Excuse my ignorance, never actually used cfobject for a web service call) Matthew wrote: Howdy, Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call from CF. I'm using the CreateObject(webservice) function (same as CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the cfsetting tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do? externalId=tn_19438sliceId=2). How can I timeout the call? Someone must have ran into this problem! Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] How do you time out CFOBJECT?
Howdy, Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call from CF. I'm using the CreateObject(webservice) function (same as CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the cfsetting tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do? externalId=tn_19438sliceId=2). How can I timeout the call? Someone must have ran into this problem! Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: How do you time out CFOBJECT?
Done that already. But there is nothing to catch because it's not actually throwing an error because it's carrying on indefinitely and hence once we get half a dozen of these it sends the server into a loop so no one can access the website. I understand that even if the user closes there browser the call to the web service is still running which means the website will never come back up. On Jul 18, 12:28 pm, Mark Mandel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe just a try / catch block around the webservice call? Mark On 7/18/07, Matthew [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Howdy, Our CF server keeps crashing whenever a web service we are consuming falls over (infrequent and random). I have no control over the web service, so I am trying to find a way that I can timeout a WS call from CF. I'm using the CreateObject(webservice) function (same as CFOBJECT) to invoke the web service, however I've just found out the CFOBJECT doesn't adhere to the timeout settings in CFADMIN or the cfsetting tag (http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do? externalId=tn_19438sliceId=2). How can I timeout the call? Someone must have ran into this problem! Cheers Matthew -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Coldfusion Books
Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Coldfusion Books
Hi Andrew, Those were the first 2 I went to. AR was were I went 9 months ago and thought their selection was good but now it's disimal (especially because half the section is taken up selling old IT books on sale - whats the point?)! McGills has the best computer section out of the 5 I went to however no CF. If you go at the weekend and discover I'm wrong please let me know that I'm blind! Cheers Matthew On Jul 18, 3:19 pm, Andrew Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mathew, There are 2 very good book stores in the CBD, Angus and Robertson and McGills both with 2 doors of each other. I haven't been to either for a few years, but both have separate areas for Computer related books. McGills is upstairs and is huge, and AR is on the corner virtually next door from memory and that shop was 100% computer books. I would be disappointed if this is no longer the case, I was planning to head in there this weekend. Andrew Scott Senior Coldfusion Developer Aegeon Pty. Ltd.www.aegeon.com.au Phone: +613 8676 4223 Mobile: 0404 998 273 -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Sent: Wednesday, 18 July 2007 2:58 PM To: cfaussie Subject: [cfaussie] Coldfusion Books Is it just me or is the only place to buy a CF book online? I live in Melbourne (work in the CBD) and have visited 5 book shops in the past few days in search of Ben Forta's Advance CF... (or any CF book) but can't find one anywhere! In fact it seems that all book shop computer sections have been reducing quite rapidly in the last year - 9 months ago I was after a MySQL book and I'm sure the section was twice as big! Perhaps this means that everyone who tried to jump onto the IT wagon realised that a book won't make you an expert in months! Apologies if this is off-topic. Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: SURVEY: Is ColdFusion OO?
Hi Dale, Perhaps you could leave the survey up for a little while longer, it looks like you only had it up for 1/2 a day. I'd be interest to submit my opinion and see the results. Cheers Matthew On Jul 9, 1:19 pm, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @Mark S. No it is a gauge of how people perceive OO with CF. @Andrew S. I don't write surveys to serve your interests just ones where I am interested in peoples thoughts and where I think others will be interested in those thoughts. @Mark M. I would rather wait until I have some responses, as reading the blog might sway opinion. I'll make this a short one and close if off Today then post the Blog URL with the results also. Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Mandel Sent: Monday, 9 July 2007 1:02 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: SURVEY: Is ColdFusion OO? which blog dale, I must have missed it? Mark On 7/9/07, Dale Fraser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After a discussion on a blog today, the question was asked if people consider that ColdFusion is OO and if it should be developed further. This has always been the cause of some debate, and rather than have lots of off topic discussion here or on the blog, I thought id survey the developers. http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=9hX1fEzE_2fdNdSnIJpWngKA_3d_3d Regards Dale Fraser http://dalefraser.blogspot.com -- E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] W:www.compoundtheory.com --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Regular expressions - backreference as a number
Hi guys, I need to write a regex which can search through a paragraph of text and replace any number written as a percentage with itself minus 25% i.e. replace 100% with 75%, 90% with 65% etc etc. Here is a sample paragraph: - Provides passengers with a cabin that contains a 3-berth sleeping compartment in 2nd class. 100% exchangeable and refundable up to 3 days before departure. 90% exchangeable and refundable from 3 days before departure up to 60 days after departure. Can be exchanged in France prior to the travel date. - I've writen a regex to find all strings where a number has a % symbol after it and replace it with FOO: - cfdump var=#ReReplace(str_text,([0-9]+%)+,FOO,all)# - Now I want to use the backreference and subtract 25, but it seems the backreference can only be treated as a string: cfdump var=#ReReplace(str_text,([0-9]+%)+,\1-25,all)# Which produces: 100%-25, wrong I know!!! I'm guessing that I will have to be to write a REFind and do some replaces etc, however it would be great if someone could write it all in a regex. Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Regular expressions - backreference as a number
Someone is a very cleaver cookie!!! Although what is this line for?: str_text = replace(str_text, ##, , all); --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Application scope problem
Hi guys, I think I'm getting a corrupt application scope problem. The CF error is: The element at position 3 cannot be found. LINE 411 LINE 411 is: #application.rews.timePeriods[X].name# (it's in a loop so X would have been equal to 3). Application.cfm code: application.rews.locale = en_US; application.rews.timePeriods= ArrayNew(1); application.rews.timePeriods[1] = StructNew(); application.rews.timePeriods[1].name= 00:00-06:00; application.rews.timePeriods[1].period.low = 00:00; application.rews.timePeriods[1].period.high = 06:00; application.rews.timePeriods[2] = StructNew(); application.rews.timePeriods[2].name= 06:00-08:00; application.rews.timePeriods[2].period.low = 06:00; application.rews.timePeriods[2].period.high = 08:00; application.rews.timePeriods[3] = StructNew(); application.rews.timePeriods[3].name= 08:00-10:00; application.rews.timePeriods[3].period.low = 08:00; application.rews.timePeriods[3].period.high = 10:00; application.rews.timePeriods[4] = StructNew(); application.rews.timePeriods[4].name= 10:00-13:00; application.rews.timePeriods[4].period.low = 10:00; application.rews.timePeriods[4].period.high = 13:00; application.rews.timePeriods[5] = StructNew(); application.rews.timePeriods[5].name= 13:00-17:00; application.rews.timePeriods[5].period.low = 13:00; application.rews.timePeriods[5].period.high = 17:00; application.rews.timePeriods[6] = StructNew(); application.rews.timePeriods[6].name= 17:00-21:00; application.rews.timePeriods[6].period.low = 17:00; application.rews.timePeriods[6].period.high = 21:00; application.rews.timePeriods[7] = StructNew(); application.rews.timePeriods[7].name= 21:00-24:00; application.rews.timePeriods[7].period.low = 21:00; application.rews.timePeriods[7].period.high = 23:59; application.rews.timePeriodsDefault.departOption = 3; application.rews.timePeriodsDefault.returnOption = 6; application.rews.paxMax = 9; I've just read this article (http://www.adobe.com/devnet/server_archive/articles/cf_locking_best_practices.html) on locking read/write to application scoop, however the article seems old, is this still relevant? Note: the project I'm working on does not use application.cfc. Do I need to put application scope locking in place? There are 2650 refernece to this scope throughout the website! Perhaps it's not a locking issue, can anyone see any probs with the code? Cheers --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Application scope problem
So what scope would you use? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: OT: SEO
We use Amplify. Paul B wrote: Can anyone recommend a good SEO firm to work with? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Server performance
Hi guys, I am getting random errors from CF along the lines of The request has exceeded the allowable time limit Tag: cfmail ... the error varies from CFMAIL, CFOUTPUT and CFQUERY tags and different pages. The queries are fine, because they work most of the time and I've run them through a DB client which returns the result set very fast. CFMAIL is fine as well. I think that there is something else going on because it's random, therefore I'm thinking that it's timing out when the server is overloaded. Can anyone suggest how I could find out more precisely why pages are timing out (the pages vary as well)? I guess I need to look at stress testing the server, so where on earth do I start? Also, is there any good resources with suggestion on how the CFADMIN settings can be optimised? At the moment CF is setup to receive 8 simultaneous connections. The server is Windows Server 2003, MySql 4.1, IIS Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Web service / Java experts help required.
Hi Andrew,
I'm still not getting it?
Here are the options I've tried!
==1 CODE==
cfscript
webservice = CreateObject(webservice,http://dummy?wsdl;);
webservice.doBuildQuoteForItinerary(123456,en_US,,1113);
/cfscript
==1 ERROR==
Could not perform web service invocation doBuildQuoteForItinerary.
Here is the fault returned when invoking the web service operation:br
preAxisFault faultCode:
{http://schemas.xmlsoap.org/soap/envelope/}Server.userException
faultSubcode: faultString:
com.raileurope.web.ngserver.InternalErrorException: Invalid key or You
are not a registered user faultActor: faultNode: faultDetail:
{http://xml.apache.org/axis/}hostname:regapp /pre
==2 CODE==
cfscript
struct_foo.key = 123456;
struct_foo.local= en_US;
struct_foo.style= ;
struct_foo.solutionId = 1113;
webservice = CreateObject(webservice,http://dummy?wsdl;);
webservice.doBuildQuoteForItinerary(struct_foo);
/cfscript
==2 ERROR==
Web service operation doBuildQuoteForItinerary with parameters
{{STYLE={},KEY={123456},SOLUTIONID={1113},LOCAL={en_US}}} could not be
found.
==3 CODE==
cfscript
array_foo[1]= 123456;
array_foo[2]= en_US;
array_foo[3]= ;
array_foo[4] = 1113;
webservice = CreateObject(webservice,http://dummy?wsdl;);
webservice.doBuildQuoteForItinerary(array_foo);
/cfscript
==3 ERROR==
Web service operation doBuildQuoteForItinerary with parameters
{[123456, en_US, , 1113]} could not be found.
===
From what I can tell out of these 3 options, the first error tells me
that I'm on the right track but I've got 1 tiny little bit wrong.
Here is the WSDL code for the doBuildQuoteForItinerary function:
wsdl:message name=doBuildQuoteForItineraryRequest
wsdl:part name=key type=xsd:string/
wsdl:part name=locale type=xsd:string/
wsdl:part name=style type=xsd:string/
wsdl:part name=solutionId type=xsd:string/
/wsdl:message
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[cfaussie] Web service / Java experts help required.
); --- I've thought about writting a wrapper Java class which I could use from my CF code to call the WS. Is this sensible? My thought was to use the function supplied above and just add an additional function which I would pass in the parameters from CF which would then convert all variables to the correct types and call the WS. I've not actually tested the supplied Java code yet so I'm not even sure it will work. I was hoping to get it working directly from CF. Would it be best to save this wrapper as a class or a jar or what? Cheers Matthew --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups cfaussie group. To post to this group, send email to cfaussie@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/cfaussie -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[cfaussie] Re: Dealing with the reg; symbol
I’d recommend not trying to solve it on a case by case basis as there’ll always be another character that isn’t working. Generally, the trick is to ensure everything is Unicode. use nvarchar fields instead of varchar (if it’s SQL Server) use cfqueryparam ensure Unicode is enabled in your datasource set the encoding of your scopes with cfset setEncoding(URL, UTF-8)cfset setEncoding(FORM, UTF-8) specify your page encoding cfcontent type = text/html; charset=UTF-8 Um… anything else? Cabbage Tree Creative Ltd. Matthew Walker|web programmer Phone+64 3 377 7544 Email[EMAIL PROTECTED] Webwww.cabbagetree.co.nz manage your own web site with Thrive - contact us to learn how! From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:cfaussie@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Ryan Sabir Sent: Wednesday, 1 February 2006 7:01 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Dealing with the reg; symbol Heya folks, Does anyone have a good strategy for people who copy and paste text from wherever and include funny characters like the copyright symbol or the registered trademark symbol? With the (r) symbol for example when it gets pasted into a text field and inserted into the database it comes out as two strange characters, I imagine that its a double byte ascii code thats getting munged up along the way. I tried doing a Replace on it in CF, and changing the (r) to an reg; code, but the replace doesn't work properly and I'm left with a vertical pipe, followed by the (r) symbol. Any ideas on this one? bye! Ryan Sabir Technical Director p: (02) 9274 8030 f: (02) 9274 8099 m: 0411 512 454 w: www.newgency.com Newgency Pty Ltd Web | Multimedia | eMarketing 224 Riley St Surry Hills NSW 2010 Sydney, Australia
[cfaussie] Re: What Defines an Application
I struggled with my first Application.cfc too. But once you've got one right you can just copy it ;-) -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 6:01 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: What Defines an Application Ahh, Thanks I was setting it in OnApplicationStart. PS: That also fixed my problem of when dumping application scope it dumped all sorts of ugly method references. Thankyou. Regards Dale Fraser -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matthew Walker Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 3:19 PM To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: What Defines an Application In your two Application.cfcs have you set this.name? It should be set to two different values for the two different apps. Set it after the cfcomponent but before the first cffunction. Cabbage Tree Creative Ltd. Matthew Walker | web programmer Phone+64 3 377 7544 Email [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web www.cabbagetree.co.nz manage your own web site with Thrive - contact us to learn how! -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Thursday, 2 February 2006 5:01 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] What Defines an Application Importance: High Hi, Have a problem, have two apps. http://server.com/app1/ oand http://server.com/app2/ When I browse one it works fine, when I browse the second, it thinks it's the first one. This has happened since moving to application.cfc. What am I doing wrong? Regards Dale Fraser
[cfaussie] Re: [OT] select
Actually I've seen this done many times including (some time back) on the Microsoft site. It's not so bad as you'd think as your eye tends to go to the thing that's appearing rather than the thing that's disappearing. The iframe technique is of course much nicer. Wasn't aware of it. -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Taco Fleur Sent: Tuesday, 31 January 2006 4:16 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: [OT] select Thats easy enough to do, but surely thats not the option. It would look a bit weird having to hide all the selects on the page, and I have seem it work where the select was still on the page, i.e. not hidden.
[cfaussie] Re: application.cfc prblems
You mean when you cfdump the application scope? -Original Message- From: cfaussie@googlegroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dale Fraser Sent: Friday, 27 January 2006 4:46 p.m. To: cfaussie@googlegroups.com Subject: [cfaussie] Re: application.cfc prblems Yep, Also now find that when I dump application.cfm, I get heaps of crap, function / object type references. Is this normal?
