Re: [CinCV] Transferring cinelerra.org

[Daniel Jircik]

   - 
adam.williams.10297...@facebook.com


   - http://heroinewarrior.com
   - http://vicacopter.com



On Thu, Apr 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Richard Baverstock <
richard.baverst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Since I'm no longer really involved in the project, and haven't been for
> years, I'd like to transfer the domain to either Adam or the current leads
> in the unofficial version.
>
> If Adam is not on this list, does anyone know his current email address?
>
> Who is currently leading the unofficial version (or who is maintaining the
> web presence)?
>
> Thanks,
> Richard
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Re: [CinCV] firewire stack on recent kernels

[Daniel Jircik]

That's probably best answered here. You don't have to register to post I
believe.
linux1394-de...@lists.sourceforge.net

On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 4:56 PM, E Chalaron  wrote:

>
> Ok same situation as I; the 1394 modules have been dropped and replaced
> by the new firewire stack
> gosh ... I am stuck.
> Many thanks
> E
>
>
> On 09/25/2012 09:31 AM, David Armstrong wrote:
> > nothing is returned with lsmod, but with lspci I get:
> >
> > bod@video:~$ lspci | grep 1394
> > 08:00.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): LSI Corporation FW322/323 (rev 04)
> > 08:06.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB23
> > IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)
> >
> > cheers
>
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Re: [CinCV] grand'ma proxy

[Daniel Jircik]

This has been an informative thread. Something to add having learned from
painful experience, make sure you have a good power supply. If you got an
OEM box chances are it has a 450 Watt power supply which is barely able to
handle the load when you add 4 drives. Bigger better.
On May 7, 2012 12:28 PM, "Haldun ALTAN"  wrote:

>  Hello Tim
>
> I installed everything aaand  ... IT WORKS !
> Everything is visible and done.
>
> THANKS A LOT !
>
> Well now to see the difference  i have to compile cinelerra  I"ll open
> another thread for this.
>
> Thanks again I'll make an how to from it to keep it in mind for the next
> time. May be I can send it to Grand Ma ? ... :)))
>
> Haldun.
>
> On 06/05/2012 21:17, Tim Copeland wrote:
>
> On Sun, 2012-05-06 at 07:39 +0200, Haldun ALTAN wrote:
>
> Hello Tim I was wondering about some détails.
>
> On 500 Go SATA drive, the 300 Go backup space is it a primary or a logical
> partition to be the best ? If it's logical, /usr folder goes there
> automatically. If it's a primary partition it's a free space. Is there a
> specifique mount indication for this space ?
>
> Hard drives can only have 4 primary partitions. The only reason logical
> partitions exist is if you need more than 4. Quite often
> automated partitioning wizards will create them by default. Following the
> suggestion, all drives have only 3 partitions, so they
> can all be primary partitions if you like.
>
> File systems and mount points don't know about or care about partition
> types. They simply see them as storage blocks.
> The fact you see /usr is just a default for the wizard. It means nothing.
> You can set it to anything you like or make one up.
>
>  When you say 2 Go for SWAP, 250 GO for RAID10 and 50 Go for RAID0, you
> mean also the order of partitions ? I put the swap at the middle. May be
> better at the beginning because the drive is faster ? ...
>
> Yes that is the suggested partition ordering.
> In the old days, having swap on the front of a drive was faster. Modern
> hard drive designs use very sufisticated algorithms for performance
> balancing.
> It really makes little difference these days, but I still feel better
> placing the swap towards the front.
>
>  On 250  Go RAID10 i put /home on a primary partition. Don't need to be a
> logical partition I hope.
>
> For the swap quantity : The former installation 10,04 had put
> automatically 12 Go swap  for 6 giga byte RAM. Shall I remain with 4 Go or
> put some more ?
>
>
> The standard rule of thumb for amount of swap space is generally 2x the
> amount of RAM in the system. Though its doubtful you'll need more than 4 Gig
> of swap space, it sure wont hurt setting it to have 6 Gig.
> .
>
> I don't know the mount point for RAID0 shall I leave "none" or what
> instead ?
>
> All mount options were set to relatime. is it a good choice or better
> leave them on "default" ?
>
>
> Leave all settings to what ever your wizard automatically sets them to,
> which should most likely be relatime.
> The only thing you should do is set the size (letting it round to
> boundaries), set the file system type, set the mount point.
> Do not change anything else.
>
> Remember that windows if finicky. You MUST install windows to the first
> partition on the primary drive.
> This would be the mount points I would recommend.
>
> Windows = 100 Gig
> /   = 100 Gig - Linux system
> /backup= 300 Gig - since /home is RAID 10 backing up here means you
> would have 3 copies of important data
>
> swap   = 4 Gig
> /home < 250 Gig - ALL important data lives here - RAID 10
> /work   ~ 100 Gig - do not store here just use for high speed IO then
> copy to /home when done- RAID 0
>
>
>  Thanks for these informations in advance. I think this is it. Then it
> will work when I workout the DHCP on my installation :)))
>
> I think Linux may be the solution for Alzheimer. You learn everyday ...
> new things  :))
>
> Haldun.
>
> On 03/05/2012 20:33, Tim Copeland wrote:
>
> When you say ATA I am assuming SATA. A quick note for those with PATA
> (IDE) drives. In order to get proper performance
> out of any given RAID set, every drive in that array must be on a separate
> IDE channel. i.e.. you should not have 2 drives
> attached to the same IDE cable and be in the same array.
>
> Also no matter how many drives you place in an array, and no matter how
> fast those drives are, maximum IO throughput
> is still limited by maximum system bus speed.
>
> Another thing I need to point out. Linux supports partition level RAID.
> This means you don't need to configure the entire
> drive to be part of a single array. You can have each partition on a disk
> assigned to a different array and/or none at all.
>
> The short answer to your question is, yes, your suggested setup could work
> as you describe.
>
> I don't know any thing about your work flow or the scale of the projects
> you have planned.
> Creating a RAID 0 from 2 300 Gig drives would give you just under

Re: [CinCV] grand'ma proxy

[Daniel Jircik]

I use Raid 0 on Debian which has raid support built into installer. I would
also recommend using the XFS filesystem on that , with a seperate sytem
drive.  I have one array here that's been online for 4 years. never a
hickup.
ciao
Daniel

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 10:46 PM, Tim Copeland
wrote:

> **
> Linux RAID currently supports RAID 10 on 2 drives. Would recommend that
> over RAID 0 in most cases.
> It will give you the redundancy of mirroring with the IO of striping with
> as few as 2 drives. Plus none of the
> hassles that come with booting your OS on a striped array.
>
> The only drawback is that few distro support setting it up at install
> time. No biggie if you are configuring it
> as secondary storage, if the distro has native drive/partition management
> GUI's. However, if trying to set
> it up to install an OS on, you need to be fairly comfortable with Linux
> command line. Some time ago, I put
> together a cheat sheet for just such occasions. I can make it available if
> needed.
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 2012-05-01 at 12:50 +1200, E Chalaron wrote:
>
> Haldun
> Did you set up your 2 drives as Raid 0, you may well have a bottle neck
> there if not.
> Careful that you may need a dedicated drive for your OS.
>
> cheers
> Edouard
>
>
> On 04/28/2012 04:28 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote:
>
> Another great bunch of thanks to Rafealla and her grandma's advises
> without which i couldn't make the last work where DNxHD was not fluid
> enough. So i did it with proxy editing and that was great. I could use 6-7
> video channels without any problème and render with DNxHD version on mjpega
> to get HD with handbrake.
>
> Anyway proxy is great even if you have to do everything twice at tjhe end
> you earn a lot of time when you're editing.
>
> in fact I don't understand why it's so slow. I bought recently a second
> hand PC with two xeon 5460 3,1 ghz 4 cwith 6 go ram and nvdia quadro
> fx4600 and two hard drive sas 1 tours with 300 go each.
> cpu is working 100% memory is saturated at 6 Gio
>
> Tell me just if it's normal that i have to wait 6 minutes for 1 min vidéo
> on  background rendering with jpeg quality at 20 % ?
>
> Thanks
>
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Re: [CinCV] Popular Linux distribution among Cinelerra users?

[Daniel Jircik]

I've been fond of Debian for a number of years now. The Debian
Multimedia Repository is quite extensive and usually up to date.
http://debian-multimedia.org/

I've also been looking at AV Linux which is a Debian based distro and
it is already stocked and set up with the above repository, including
Cinelerra.The live cd looks great and I'm going to upgrade one of my
machines with it in the next day or so. I'll let you know how it goes.
http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html

If you do go with Debian it defaults to Gnome and you need to specify
at install time to install other Desktop environments should you
prefer KDE.
ciao
Daniel

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 7:48 PM, IL'dar AKHmetgaleev  wrote:
> На Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:09:05 +1300
> E Chalaron  записано:
>
>> Opensuse is a robust (to me) distro
>> You may need to add the extra drivers and codecs but it can be find
>> very easily.
>> 11.4 was a bit so so for me, 11.3 is extremely good, 12.1 just
>> realeased, not sure what it gives with gnome 3
>>
>> Cheers
>> E
>
> Seems like you can get any distro.
> For me cinelerra works well on gentoo (compiled from git) and archlinux
> (installed from repo). As I know also cinelerra works very well in
> debian.
>
> ===8@))-<-<
> Ильдар Ахметгалеев aka AkhIL
> Чт. дек.  1 08:46:04 NOVT 2011
> Thu Dec  1 01:46:04 UTC 2011
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Re: [CinCV] DVGrab with monitoring

[Daniel Jircik]

I think you need to use a basename after options:
dvgrab -a -t -f raw  capture001 - | ffplay -f dv -x 640 -y 360 -


On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Raffaella Traniello
 wrote:
> Hi Daniel!
>
> On 11/10/2011 12:01 AM, Daniel Jircik wrote:
>>
>> $ dvgrab -f hdv [options]  - | ffplay -f mpegts -x 640 -y 360 -
>

>
> I tried
>
> dvgrab -a -t -f raw - | ffplay -f dv -x 640 -y 360 -
>
> With this command I can monitor but I see no captured files.
> Any idea why?
>
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Re: [CinCV] DVGrab with monitoring

[Daniel Jircik]

$ dvgrab -f hdv [options]  - | ffplay -f mpegts -

You might want to reduce the size of the ffplay window:

$ dvgrab -f hdv [options]  - | ffplay -f mpegts -x 640 -y 360 -

Distortions you see in the monitor are not necessarily in the capture
file. The above assume you want to capture at the same time as
monitoring. To only monitor, leave out the .

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 2:28 PM, Hannu Vuolasaho  wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> Is there tool which can grab HDV (.m2t) like dvgrab and same time show the 
> video?
>
> In my setup I would like to put laptop and monitor from larger screen while 
> capturing data to HDD.
>
> I believe Kino does this however it's only DV compatible, not HDV. I tried 
> something like dvgrab |tee|mplayer >split but no luck
> Any good ideas?
>
> best regards,
> Hannu Vuolasaho
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Re: [CinCV] New C41 plugin ready

[Daniel Jircik]

Nice work ! Looks great.
Daniel

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 8:02 PM, E Chalaron  wrote:
> Hi all
>
> A short example being better than a long speech, the C41 plugin is ready
> (almost, a couple of details missing, I might ask the devel. team to look
> at)
>
> but anyway here we go :
>
> http://vimeo.com/30647432
> It has a Flickr photo too.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license

[Daniel Jircik]

Well like everyone else who has chimed in on this I am not a lawyer either.
Since you are basically doing a Debian remaster look at the model they use
for free and non free repositories. I think what's throwing smoke in
everyone's eyes is your wording, a "non gpl linux distribution" That sets
off my alarm bells right away. When closer observation shows you are not
doing anything nefarious or overtly
sinister. Commercial distributions have been releasing proprietary drivers
as part of their releases for years. The important distinction being that
say for example suse last time I used it offered the instalation option of
an entirely free  (FOS) install or installing proprietary drivers.  Perhaps
it's really a disclaimer you need tobe making rather than saying that you
have this liscence model which as you have just found out can be a very
thorny subject. Might I suggest you seek the council of the Debian
maintainers on the right way to do that.

On another note and I can't recall specifically where I  found this out but
it was from a maintainers list, and that is if you do a gpl distribution you
are technically required to have the source code for each gpl
program/package available. An iso image is not source code. I think busy box
deals with this violation all the time because manufacturers will use it for
a tv , pvr router whatever and only release binary firmware upgrades etc.

I think what you are doing is outstanding and I truly commend you for your
endeavor. But if I were you in an ideal world and had the abundant time
required I would perhaps consider the following.

1) A live disk distribution is good for most demo applications but for video
editing it's just not practical. So assume that anyone wanting to seriously
use your product is going to install it.

2) Be compliant to the letter with re distributing gpl packages and maintain
your own repositories for each maintained package. This will allow you to
tweak say for instance template files for or initial settings. Perhaps
consider demo files for tutorials .

3) Look at the Debian model for free and non free packages. Integrate
yourself with aptitude to refresh your own Eco system as well as that of
your Debian base install. Allow the option for a free/ non free install .

4) Keep up the good work !

Kind Regards
Daniel Jircik

On Thursday, October 6, 2011,   wrote:
> Well then I'm in good company! Thanks for sharing that raffa!
>
> -GLEN
>
>
>> On 10/06/2011 11:29 PM, i...@bandshed.net wrote:
>>>...is everyone greeted with such 'hospitality'?...lol
>>
>> No, only special fellows in the same shoes as Cinelerra. :-)
>> Guess why Cinelerra is not included in Debian and Ubuntu? :-)
>>
>> Ciao!
>> Raffaella
>>
>> PS: a hint to the answer:
>> http://cinelerra.org/docs/wiki/doku.php?id=cinelerrafileslicensestatus
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Re: [CinCV] A feature I would like in cinelerra

[Daniel Jircik]

If you hold the left mouse down and drag the mouse you can zoom in and  
out that way. You can select the camera axis in the view menu and see  
the line. From there you can add keyframes and push/pull them to zoom  
pan etc. I animate camera moves on still frames that way all the time.  
Hope that's helpful.

Daniel

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 4, 2011, at 5:14 PM, Randolph  wrote:


Have you tried the scale effect with keyframes?



Hello

The zoom now is in discrete steps with the + and - buttons. I would  
like a
infinit zoomfunction controlled by the scrollwheel of the mouse. I  
also
would like an effect "automatic zoom" in the motion tracker. This  
in such a
way that my subject stays on screen at the same size even when it  
is closing
in or going away. Or to compensate for wrong zoom actions while  
making the

video. If such a feature is possible that really would be awesome.

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Re: [CinCV] in creating animation from sequence of images, what is the maximum size?

[Daniel Jircik]

yes this works quite well:
http://argoslabs.com/~malefico/tutor/img2list-en.html

On Wed, Mar 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Simon Su  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Can I load a sequence of images instead of a movie file? What I can dig up
> now (after 30 mins digging and I admit I am a little impatient.. :)) is, all
> the media imported are movie sequence. If this is the case, what would be
> the way put together a sequence of 800 images at 4096x2048 resolution size
> into a 4096x2048 resolution move file that Cinelerra will load?
>
> and, what is the difference between the code I got from
>
> http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php -
>
> git clone git://git.cinelerra.org/j6t/cinelerra.git my_cinelerra
>
> and
>
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/heroines/files/cinelerra-4.1-src.tar.bz2/download
> ?
>
> are they the same thing? assuming git is newer.. there isn't a
> svn/git/cvs on that sourceforge project page
>
> thanks
> -simon
>
>
> On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 4:39 PM, yosepkey  wrote:
>>
>> Yes you can.
>>
>> But you have to have lots of memory and a good processor.
>>
>> I worked with an image of 20,000 x 20,000, to zoom. The beginning of this
>> video
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/user/tutubuntu#p/u/13/2OFy2nRDG5k
>>
>>
>> Yosepkey
>>
>> 2011/2/23 Simon Su 
>>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> fcp has a limitation in handing image size up to 4000x4000 ... however I
>>> need to create an animation from image at 4096x4096 resolution to create
>>> movies at the same 4096x4096 resolution. Will cinelerra be able to handle
>>> that?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> -simon
>>
>
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Re: [CinCV] Sorry, 3D is not easygoing! (was open cinema under linux)

[Daniel Jircik]

> Hi Daniel,
>
> its unnecessary to tell me how 3D works!
Sorry
> Trust me, since 20 years, every newcomer tells me these fairy tales,

Since this project was from the late 80s' the technology was referred
to at the time as multi-imaging . Banks of registered slide projectors
controlled by a dissolve unit and audio que sync system for advance
effects etc.

> with shining eyes: "Wow 3d works almost every time. It is so simple"

I never said that. The project we worked on went through quite a bit
of trial and error.  First being  focal length. With 50mm the normal
slr focal length  it was hard to get good results from. 28mm wide was
too wide but easy to align. 35mm was perfect. We used a laser pointer
to "center " the relevant foreground subject in the focus reticule.

> Of course, it "looks great" -- and then?? Does it also "look great"
> when you sit in the second row in front of a large projection screen?

We projected onto a commercial rear screen made by da-lite. The fast fold kind.
It looked great up close. I thought Avatar was hard to watch from the
front row but looked awesome from the mid to back of the house. Then
again I'm animating stills which are easier for the mind to register.

> Where do you want to go when the novelty of the mere effect wears out?

To a bar :-)
>
> Fact is, indeed, a real 3D enthusiast can see almost "everything" in 3D,
> be it even cross eyed. Just the problem is: this enthusiasm doesn't carry
> over to the normal viewer, who does not "buy into" 3D automatically (and
> this is good so).

True and Truer
>

>
> To my experience, things get even worse (for the effect on the medium)
> when professionals trained with 2D enter the 3D field. Because, to
> actually create anything of significance in 3D, you really have to
> un-learn most of your viewing habits. And the "camera look" is often
> very deeply rooted for a professional, often trained up to the point
> of getting subconscious.

I agree but I've always been a visual artist first and a technologist
2nd. I started off as a film (as in celluloid) animator. So I may have
a different  take on what is easy or what works.

>
> In the last century, we had several 3D "waves", and each of those
> faded out into oblivion. If you look at the films and images of those
> days (I mean those things created by professionals), you'll notice
> the same misconceptions again and again:
>
> - thinking that 3D should be noticeable and striking
> - relying on a 2D image composition and then "adding depth"
> - employing an editing and narrative mode that builds on
>  "connection of visual ideas" (e.g. intercutting)
> - using the same pace as if it was 2D (which might actually
>  work on a small monitor, but doesn't on a large screen)
> - not accounting for the changed "look" of things in 3D,
>  e.g. selecting actors because they are photogenic
>  (have you ever seen the 3D images of Monroe or
>  Bogart? they look strikingly average and un-grippy)
>
> The combination of those effectively kills any possibility of creating
> that subtle immersion, which might be one of the new possibilities of 3D.
> What remains is a catchy and somewhat half-baked and immature "effect",
> which can't be seen by at least 5%-10% of the visitors and creates headaches
> and pain for -- say -- a third of the remaining public. No wonder 3D gets
> abandoned and forgotten soon

I agree with all of the points you have made. It is indeed a medium of
many pitfalls and temptations to do things that looked good on paper
but did not translate to final product. But at least now there is a
set of emerging standards that take the guess work out of the
technology equation and place the burden on the film maker to bring
the goods to market.
>
> Maybe we could be more wise this time :-D

Agreed. as I mentioned earlier I am not a programmer but was wondering
if anyone has had a look at opencimatools
http://code.google.com/p/opencinematools/ ? Is this  a possibility for
creating a 3d plugin for cinelerra ?

Kind Regards.
Daniel Jircik
>
> Cheers,
> Hermann V.
>
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Re: [CinCV] open cinema under linux

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi Herman
Actually yes more yields more. Years ago I used to do 3d stuff with
dual 35mm slr shooting slide film. We used polarized
glasses/projectors and pin registered glass projection mounts. I had a
bracket with cameras side by side. It looked great evan with fairly
big horizontal mis alignment. It's really a forgiving medium. It's not
so forgiving with vertical error though. Here's a good explanation of
how a beamsplitter 3d system works,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX7ybS7fnow
With the beam splitter system you get a more accurate parallax versus
side by side where you are having to rotate cameras off axis to align.
ciao
Daniel


On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Ichthyostega  wrote:
> Daniel Jircik schrieb:
>> I was about to start a thread on this very subject. I am really interested in
>> Elphel workflow as well particularly their upcoming 3d head.
>
> Hi Daniel,
>
> is there anything new upcoming by Elphel?
> I didn't follow the development closely, but the only thing I noticed
> was their 3D setup, which unfortunately has quite an exaggerated baseline
> of 25cm, which makes it unusable for anything beyond gimmicks.
>
> Ideally, a stereo setup should be close to the average human
> eye distance of 65mm. The bodies of the elphel cameras should easily
> allow for such a setup (and actually I don't understand how they came
> to build a 248mm baseline. Maybe a typical stereo beginners misconception
> that "more yields more"...?)
>
> Hermann
>
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Re: [CinCV] open cinema under linux

[Daniel Jircik]

Open Source Blue Ray Authoring: http://x264dev.multimedia.cx/archives/328
Open Source SMPTE MXF interop: http://www.cinecert.com/asdcplib/

D

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:58 PM, Daniel Jircik  wrote:
> I was about to start a thread on this very subject. I am really
> interested in Elphel workflow as well particularly their upcoming 3d
> head. I'm shooting a 3d project in Feb. and as much as I would love to
> use my beloved Cinelerra  the architecture is not there . I think
> someone may have already done a big chunk of this if I'm not mistaken
> (IANAP) This was posted to the list awhile back by the developer who
> was looking for input to porting it to Cinelerra:
> http://code.google.com/p/opencinematools/ Including 3d support as
> well.
>
> My work flow will be:
> Camera 1 : Panasonic hdc-sdt750 3d camera using hdmi out (Interlaced 3d)
> Minix 785G Mini ITX amd mobo w/dual (automotive  12v) M4atx 250w power
> supplies, 4 ch raid0 8 TB array. XFS filesytem. Debian Stable . Black
> Magic Intensity Pro Capture with Media Express. ProFTP and Samba serve
> FCP :-(
> This rig is built and working. If anyone wants any test footage let me
> know. The camera natively records avchd on sd cards. not using for
> this project.
>
> Camera 2: (Under Construction) (Page Flip 3d)
> Dual Red Cameras on Beamsplitter Rig. Blackmagic  Deck Link Extreme 3d
> capture, Dual SDI
> Minix 890GX-USB3 Mini-ITX Board, dual M4ATX 250w ps, 4 ch Raid0 8 TB
> xfs array. Debian Stable.
> ProFTP and Samba serve FCP :-(
>
> Animation and Compositing, Blender, Gimp
>
> The problem with Cinelerra and true digital cinema spec is the
> inability to conveniently work with proxies. I've used the proxie
> workflow as mentioned in the docs with limited success but it felt
> like a black art. It has to have a gui widget.
>
> For 3d workflow there are a lot of commercial plugins for fcp et all
> here's a good example:
> http://www.dashwoodcinemasolutions.com/stereo3dtoolboxle.php
> http://techblog.cineform.com/?p=1263
>
> If anyone wants to make a stab at implementing an opencimeatools
> plugin for Cinelerra I would be willing to throw some cash at it I
> don't have a big budget but I'll throw 200.00 usd now for a starting
> stab at it. Contact me off list if interested djircik at gmail dot
> com.
>
> A good reference:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Cinema_Initiatives
>
> In case you were wondering, it's a Musical with a happy ending and a
> spectacular finale by an American Jazz Master. It's called Foam . Ssh
> you didn't here it here.
>
> Kind Regards
> Daniel Jircik
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:39 PM, flavio  wrote:
>>> what is the link between the camera and cinelerra as a recorder ?
>>
>> Mmm... no, no.
>> The camera records a JP4 that is (must be) converted to DNG. In this case,
>> they're using adobe standard for the sequence of still images. That means,
>> the camera can record footage in RAW - exactly as if they were sequences of
>> images in RAW taken from a SLR Photographic camera. That's what it's so cool
>> about it.
>> Cinelerra does open DNGs, but it's so CPU intensive due to debayer that it
>> becomes impossible to edit them directly (which would be excellent, btw), so
>> what I imagined would be that turnaoround. You wouldn't need a firewire,
>> because the footage is recorded directly at an hard disk.
>>
>>
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Re: [CinCV] open cinema under linux

[Daniel Jircik]

I was about to start a thread on this very subject. I am really
interested in Elphel workflow as well particularly their upcoming 3d
head. I'm shooting a 3d project in Feb. and as much as I would love to
use my beloved Cinelerra  the architecture is not there . I think
someone may have already done a big chunk of this if I'm not mistaken
(IANAP) This was posted to the list awhile back by the developer who
was looking for input to porting it to Cinelerra:
http://code.google.com/p/opencinematools/ Including 3d support as
well.

My work flow will be:
Camera 1 : Panasonic hdc-sdt750 3d camera using hdmi out (Interlaced 3d)
Minix 785G Mini ITX amd mobo w/dual (automotive  12v) M4atx 250w power
supplies, 4 ch raid0 8 TB array. XFS filesytem. Debian Stable . Black
Magic Intensity Pro Capture with Media Express. ProFTP and Samba serve
FCP :-(
This rig is built and working. If anyone wants any test footage let me
know. The camera natively records avchd on sd cards. not using for
this project.

Camera 2: (Under Construction) (Page Flip 3d)
Dual Red Cameras on Beamsplitter Rig. Blackmagic  Deck Link Extreme 3d
capture, Dual SDI
Minix 890GX-USB3 Mini-ITX Board, dual M4ATX 250w ps, 4 ch Raid0 8 TB
xfs array. Debian Stable.
ProFTP and Samba serve FCP :-(

Animation and Compositing, Blender, Gimp

The problem with Cinelerra and true digital cinema spec is the
inability to conveniently work with proxies. I've used the proxie
workflow as mentioned in the docs with limited success but it felt
like a black art. It has to have a gui widget.

For 3d workflow there are a lot of commercial plugins for fcp et all
here's a good example:
http://www.dashwoodcinemasolutions.com/stereo3dtoolboxle.php
http://techblog.cineform.com/?p=1263

If anyone wants to make a stab at implementing an opencimeatools
plugin for Cinelerra I would be willing to throw some cash at it I
don't have a big budget but I'll throw 200.00 usd now for a starting
stab at it. Contact me off list if interested djircik at gmail dot
com.

A good reference:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Cinema_Initiatives

In case you were wondering, it's a Musical with a happy ending and a
spectacular finale by an American Jazz Master. It's called Foam . Ssh
you didn't here it here.

Kind Regards
Daniel Jircik


On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:39 PM, flavio  wrote:
>> what is the link between the camera and cinelerra as a recorder ?
>
> Mmm... no, no.
> The camera records a JP4 that is (must be) converted to DNG. In this case,
> they're using adobe standard for the sequence of still images. That means,
> the camera can record footage in RAW - exactly as if they were sequences of
> images in RAW taken from a SLR Photographic camera. That's what it's so cool
> about it.
> Cinelerra does open DNGs, but it's so CPU intensive due to debayer that it
> becomes impossible to edit them directly (which would be excellent, btw), so
> what I imagined would be that turnaoround. You wouldn't need a firewire,
> because the footage is recorded directly at an hard disk.
>
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Re: [CinCV] Memory for big projects

[Daniel Jircik]

Can I haz cheezburger now :-)

On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:30 PM, Adam B  wrote:
> Daniel, your suggestion of loading a few files at a time did the trick.
> Thanks!  That, in combination with lowering my "Cache size" setting, allowed
> me to finally load all 166 MPG files.  I experimented with the format
> settings too but that didn't seem to make a difference.
>
> I also tried Hermann's suggestion of using mpeg3toc to pre-generate the .toc
> files but that didn't seem to help either.  It caused the "Load files"
> operation to be blazingly fast but that just meant it ran out of RAM in less
> time.  There surely must be some memory leak when loading resources.  Either
> in Cinelerra or a shared library.
>
> So to summarize what worked for me:  If you are running out of RAM trying to
> load resources:
>   1) Go to Settings->Preferences->Performance and set "Cache size" to
> something low (2MB for example)
>   2) Load only a few files at a time then save the project and exit
> Cinelerra. (I was able to do 50 at a time)
>   3) Make sure the "Index files to keep" setting is >= to the number of
> resources you have.
>
> By the way, Cache size apparently has a large impact on memory usage.  At
> 2MB my empty project with 166 resources loaded uses only 200MB.  A
> cache-size of 10MB (default) needed about 400MB.
>
> Thanks for all your help people :)
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 11, 2010 at 8:33 PM, Daniel Jircik  wrote:
>>
>> I've had problems loading bulk files into Cinelerra as well. Try this.
>> In a console start Cinelerra, go to file, select New. Popup will ask
>> for parameters. Top left is Presets. Select NTSC and bottom right is
>> Color Model select YUV 8 bit. Now save the file with your project
>> name.
>>
>> Try loading just one file as New resources only. Double click it and
>> it should appear in the viewer window.
>> On the timeline toolbar select drag and drop mode (the arrow).
>> Drag the clip from the assets window to  the timeline and make sure it
>> shows up on the compositor window.
>>
>> If all is good save the file and start adding assets in smaller
>> numbers,  say 5 at a time.
>>
>> That should tell you if everything is ok from console errors etc.
>>
>> ciao
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Adam B  wrote:
>> > Thanks for the quick replies, flavio and Frans.  I tried again with no
>> > luck.  Here's what I tried:
>> >
>> > 1) Increased the the "Number of index files to keep" from 100 to 300.
>> > 2) Launch cinelerra from a terminal so I can see why it crashes
>> > 3) From the file menu select "Load files..."
>> > 4) Select all my mpg video files (164 total).
>> > 5) Select "Create new resources only" and click okay
>> > 6) Watch my system-monitor for the next 5min.  Free physical RAM quickly
>> > goes to zero.  After that, free swap slowly declines to zero.
>> > 7) Cinelerra dies with the console message: "Killed".  I'm fairly
>> > certain
>> > that the OS took pitty and killed it as opposed to Cinelerra crashing.
>> >
>> > Am I doing something wrong?  By the way, my Cinelerra version is 2.1CV.
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Re: [CinCV] Memory for big projects

[Daniel Jircik]

Forgot to add and this is important go to settings > Format select
NTSC (before adding files) and color model yuv 8bit.
What may be happening is a preset say is 1080i and it's trying to make
weird conversions from NTSC mpg to whatever.
Daniel

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:33 AM, Daniel Jircik  wrote:
> I've had problems loading bulk files into Cinelerra as well. Try this.
> In a console start Cinelerra, go to file, select New. Popup will ask
> for parameters. Top left is Presets. Select NTSC and bottom right is
> Color Model select YUV 8 bit. Now save the file with your project
> name.
>
> Try loading just one file as New resources only. Double click it and
> it should appear in the viewer window.
> On the timeline toolbar select drag and drop mode (the arrow).
> Drag the clip from the assets window to  the timeline and make sure it
> shows up on the compositor window.
>
> If all is good save the file and start adding assets in smaller
> numbers,  say 5 at a time.
>
> That should tell you if everything is ok from console errors etc.
>
> ciao
> Daniel
>
> On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Adam B  wrote:
>> Thanks for the quick replies, flavio and Frans.  I tried again with no
>> luck.  Here's what I tried:
>>
>> 1) Increased the the "Number of index files to keep" from 100 to 300.
>> 2) Launch cinelerra from a terminal so I can see why it crashes
>> 3) From the file menu select "Load files..."
>> 4) Select all my mpg video files (164 total).
>> 5) Select "Create new resources only" and click okay
>> 6) Watch my system-monitor for the next 5min.  Free physical RAM quickly
>> goes to zero.  After that, free swap slowly declines to zero.
>> 7) Cinelerra dies with the console message: "Killed".  I'm fairly certain
>> that the OS took pitty and killed it as opposed to Cinelerra crashing.
>>
>> Am I doing something wrong?  By the way, my Cinelerra version is 2.1CV.
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [CinCV] Memory for big projects

[Daniel Jircik]

I've had problems loading bulk files into Cinelerra as well. Try this.
In a console start Cinelerra, go to file, select New. Popup will ask
for parameters. Top left is Presets. Select NTSC and bottom right is
Color Model select YUV 8 bit. Now save the file with your project
name.

Try loading just one file as New resources only. Double click it and
it should appear in the viewer window.
On the timeline toolbar select drag and drop mode (the arrow).
Drag the clip from the assets window to  the timeline and make sure it
shows up on the compositor window.

If all is good save the file and start adding assets in smaller
numbers,  say 5 at a time.

That should tell you if everything is ok from console errors etc.

ciao
Daniel

On Sat, Jun 12, 2010 at 3:05 AM, Adam B  wrote:
> Thanks for the quick replies, flavio and Frans.  I tried again with no
> luck.  Here's what I tried:
>
> 1) Increased the the "Number of index files to keep" from 100 to 300.
> 2) Launch cinelerra from a terminal so I can see why it crashes
> 3) From the file menu select "Load files..."
> 4) Select all my mpg video files (164 total).
> 5) Select "Create new resources only" and click okay
> 6) Watch my system-monitor for the next 5min.  Free physical RAM quickly
> goes to zero.  After that, free swap slowly declines to zero.
> 7) Cinelerra dies with the console message: "Killed".  I'm fairly certain
> that the OS took pitty and killed it as opposed to Cinelerra crashing.
>
> Am I doing something wrong?  By the way, my Cinelerra version is 2.1CV.
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] HDV capture - Cin - Blu-ray video

[Daniel Jircik]

1. HDV capture
Does Blackmagic Intensity Pro / Shuttle/Media Express fit in here?
http://blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/
http://blackmagic-design.com/support/software/

The blackmagic card is not  HDV it's for uncompressed full 2k capture.
I have had no luck getting bm output into cinelerra. I belive the
problem has to do with planar vs. non planar and colorspace. it's not
YUV 4:2:2. Not sure. If anyone wants to try I'll post some footage.




On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 3:41 PM, E Chalaron  wrote:
>
 k3b accepts Blu-Ray disks.

> Dont forget as well that you need a UDF file system at least 2.5 on a
> bluray standalone player.
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Re: [CinCV] Absolute Dumb Question

[Daniel Jircik]

There are two different versions of Cinelerra. The community version
(CV) and the heroinewarrior version maintained by the original author.
If you are using the later (4.1) that version has a known issue with
the viewer not working.

On Thu, Apr 29, 2010 at 1:46 PM, det  wrote:
> When I try that I can hear the audio, but no other window opens up.
> when I go to Window/Show Viewer the viewer remains blank.
>
> 
> On Thu, 29 Apr 2010 18:47:38 +0200
> Haldun ALTAN  wrote:
>
>> If you loaded .mov file on media you can just double clic and you can
>> see it on the wiever or you put it on time line (drag and drop) and
>> play it
>>
>> det a écrit :
>> > I use ubuntu karmic and can get Cinelerra installed and running, but
>> > cannot figure out how to see the video play.  Is the Viewer
>> > supposed to show the loaded .mov file when you press Play?
>> >
>> > Attached is a screenshot of my desktop, the Viewer shows nothing
>> > when I pay the video.
>> >
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Re: [CinCV] mohammed ayaz

[Daniel Jircik]

Indeed my account was hacked. Sorry  for the spam. It went out to ALL  
my contacts. Bummer


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On Apr 22, 2010, at 3:01 AM, IL'dar AKHmetgaleev   
wrote:



На Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:32:25 +0200
Haldun ALTAN  записано:


Daniel you're busted
this send to a pharma web site

Daniel Jircik a écrit :

there was spam url


looks like hacked google account.

Last weekend google was hacked. Many accounts had compromised.

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[CinCV] mohammed ayaz

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Re: [CinCV] Looking for somone experienced in cinelerra in the Los Angles area.

[Daniel Jircik]

I'm in Texas but will be in la the 22nd thru the 24th what do you need?

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On Apr 13, 2010, at 1:33 PM, Jay Dubin  wrote:

Looking for someone with a high level of experience with cinelerra   
in the Los Angles area.

Please respond ASAP

Jay Dubin


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Re: [CinCV] Using Cinelerra

[Daniel Jircik]

Try format quicktime for Linux and see what happens

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On Apr 7, 2010, at 3:01 PM, "Jones, Desmond (N-CIM)" > wrote:



Good day,

I am currently working on a presentation and I go through these  
steps of starting up Cinelerra:



1. I ssh into another linux box
2. >cinelerra (press enter)
3. Click Settings >  Preferences
4. File Format > MPEG Video
5. Record Driver > OSS
6. Screencapture
7. Size of captured frame: 720 X 720
8. Frame rate for recording: 29.9700
9. Press r

I continue to get this error when I am trying to start recording:

Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
Compiled on Sat Nov  7 20:23:04 CET 2009

Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
RecordMonitorCanvas::RecordMonitorCanvas 1 0 0 871 500
ALSA lib confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0'
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function  
snd_func_card_driver returned error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib confmisc.c:392:(snd_func_concat) error evaluating strings
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_concat  
returned error: No such file or directory

ALSA lib confmisc.c:1251:(snd_func_refer) error evaluating name
ALSA lib conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer  
returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:3985:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such  
file or directory

ALSA lib pcm.c:2184:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM default
AudioALSA::open_input: No such file or directory
AudioALSA::read_buffer overrun at sample 0
signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=18644 execution table size=16:
canvas.C: create_canvas: 775
canvas.C: create_canvas: 778
canvas.C: create_canvas: 780
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 69
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 75
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 77
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 86
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 94
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 97
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 99
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 101
record.C: run: 429
record.C: run: 432
record.C: run: 439
record.C: run: 450
recordmonitor.C: recordmonitor.C: 998
signal_entry: lock table size=18
0x8dd03a0 CWindowTool::input_lock CWindowTool::run
0x8df3c08 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
0x8ea48b0 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
0x8ea4ee0 MainIndexes::input_lock MainIndexes::run 1
0x8f15db0 ResourceThread::draw_lock ResourceThread::run
0x8755828 BC_Synchronous::next_command BC_Synchronous::run
0x8f43f80 BC_Repeater::pause_lock BC_Repeater::run
0x8f45590 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x8e1c770 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x8c09e18 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x8d32488 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x8df5270 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x8ed0648 Record::window_lock Record::run 3 *
0x8ea6cd0 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x8fbff70 RecordStatusThread::input_lock RecordStatusThread::run
0x9033248 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x9066f40 RecordMonitor::output_lock RecordMonitorThread::run
0x906f980 AudioDevice::buffer_lock AudioDevice::run_input 1 *
BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0
BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files
SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0
Aborted

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Re: [CinCV] Playback, video effect questions

[Daniel Jircik]

Is this the famous stops playback lockup problem? Using Cinelerra CV:
Go to Settings > Preferences > Playback and select ALSA sound driver. Check
tab below that says Stops Playback Lock up.
ciao
Daniel

On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 3:03 PM, akirad  wrote:

> Tom King ha scritto:
> >
> > I finally installed his cinecutie package and that worked. I don't know
> > what differences there are between the two, but that's the package I
> > used to finish the audition tape. Playback was flawless. What have I
> > missed on troubleshooting/fixing playback on the original packages?
>
> Thank you for the feedback, cinecutie is currently an experiment that
> seems increasingly a fork. The problem is that the code was born almost
> a joke to the top I did not take note of all changes made to the code
> and therefore difficult to reintegrate with cinelerracv. I know it is an
> unforgivable mistake. However, the main difference that has allowed you
> to finish the project is the integration with most of the code of
> cinelerra4. This latest integration is easily replenished in cinelerracv
> as I drew it all with git on sourceforge.
>
> bye
>
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Re: [CinCV] 4.1 HV Viewer in Fedora

[Daniel Jircik]

No it does not

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On Feb 19, 2010, at 1:16 PM, daf  wrote:


Hi All
Does anyone know whether the Viewer in Cinelerra 4.1 HV will work in  
Fedora 11 or 12 64bit (before I overwrite karmic !)


Thanks
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Re: [CinCV] .MOV audio and 'Viewer' issues

[Daniel Jircik]

The viewer is broken in 4.1 HV.  :-( No known fix or work around to my
knowledge.
ciao
D

On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 5:53 PM, daf hobson  wrote:

> Hi All
> Installed Cinelerra 4.1 on a 64bit AMD 4 core machine in Karmic 9.10 - from
> herroinewarrior.
> Excellent being able to play 1920x1080 and work with them. Thanks to all
> the people who bring Cinelerra to us..!
>
> The 'Viewer' in my Cinelerra 4.1 widow does not seem to accept files. The
> window is present and when a file is dragged into the space the green clock
> illuminates, however no file is entered. No image on screen. can anyone help
> here?
>
> Thanks
> Daf
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Re: [CinCV] Editing media in "Viewer" no longer works

[Daniel Jircik]

Are you using heroinewarriors 4.1 or the current cinelerra-cv? The viewer on
hv cinelerra 4.1 is reported broken and is not supported. A word of caution
xml files from cin cv and cin hv are incompatable so stick with one or the
other.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 12:50 AM, Frank Glatzel  wrote:

> Hi all,
> I used to be able to simply drag media into the viewer, copy the takes I
> want
> and paste them into the timeline.
> This no longer works and I have to first drag media into the timeline,
> make clips of it, erase them from the timeline and can then edit them
> in "viewer".
>
> Are there some settings I'm missing?
> It's pretty tedious to having convert all the media first,
> as I have almost 50 clips from a live band to edit.
>
> --
>
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>
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Re: [CinCV] Nudging takes on the timeline

[Daniel Jircik]

Also I forgot to add on the far left of the timeline where you have video1
and the function buttons the last one is an arrow that lets you expand the
window. There you can set subtractive, additive overlay but there is a
numeric window and if you hold the cursor over it it says "nudge" I've never
used it but I believe you can enter frames to move the whole track back and
forth. assuming you can use - numbers. play with it.
Daniel

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:19 PM, Roland  wrote:

> Hi
>
> Daniel, I didn't know this function. Thanks for the tip.
>
> Frank,
> You can apply an effect on just a part of your tracks by:
> - selecting the area you want in the timeline with the "cut and paste
> editing mode" button OR with the in [ and out ] buttons ... and drag/drop
> the effect in there.
> - selecting the area you want, making a copy of it (or cutting it), and
> pasting it in another blank video track (Video -> Add Track) on the top of
> the video track you want to modify.
> Note that this new copy can be easily "nudge" along the timeline in the new
> video (or audio) track with your mouse. For precise nudging you can use the
> "manual goto" button (if you are using the CV version) in combination with
> the 4 and 1 buttons of the num keypad.
>
> Other thing: Make sure you have "Play every frame" option checked in
> Settings -> Preferences -> Playback -> Video out. The Audio offset (sec)
> option in the "Audio out" part can also permit you to sync your video (but
> for the whole project).
>
> Some years ago, a guy made a music video using Cinelerra ==>
> http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=szB74WuelHI and posted a blog on how he did
> ==>
> http://radioal.blogspot.com/2007/12/quick-and-dirty-youtube-vids-from-linux.html
> (this blog seems to have a limited access now ... pity).
>
>
>
>
> On 2010-02-03 16:21, Daniel Jircik wrote:
> > When you put the cursor on the beginning of a scene move it back over the
> > start. Note that the cursor changes to -> or <- when you move the cursor
> > over the start or end of the clip. Each one has different functionality
> when
> > used in drag and drop mode with left mouse button.
> > -> at the head of the clip nudges track forward independent of other
> tracks
> > <- nudges the other way.
> > -> at the end of the clip lengthens the clip
> > <- at the end of the clip shortens it.
> > Play with it to get the hang of it but that's how you can sync up
> multiple
> > cameras etc. Hope hope that is useful.
> > ciao
> > Daniel
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Frank Glatzel  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Scott,
> > > thank you for your suggestion, but it doesn't solve it, as Cinelerra
> > > seems to lack the function to grab a take on the timeline and shift it
> > > around freely on the timeline to any position like a DAW i.e..
> > > These effect work on the entire track instead.
> > >
> > > Ciao Frank
> > >
>
> > > On Wednesday 03 February 2010 16:40:12 Scott C. Frase wrote:
> > > > Frank,
> > > > Use the "Delay Audio" audio effect or "Delay Video" video effect
> > > > scott
> > > >
> > > > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Frank Glatzel wrote:
> > > > > TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been using Cinelerra for quite a while now and really enjoy
> it.
> > > > > I'm producing a music video and would like to nudge a take in the
> > > > > timeline frame-by-frame left or right to lip-sync the sound with
> the
> > > > > video.
> > > > >
> > > > > How would I go about doing this?
> > > > > I know there is a function to nudge the entire track, but I only
> want
> > > to
> > > > > nudge a take (clip). Is this function implemented?
> > > > >
> > > > > Your help would be really appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
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> > > > >
> > > > > Frank Glatzel
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Re: [CinCV] Nudging takes on the timeline

[Daniel Jircik]

Yes that is annoying. You can of course insert silence. But that's been
problematic for me for some reason.  What I usually do is record about 2
minutes (or longer than you need) of black and make a short clip of that.
That way you can skirt things up and down the timeline with the same method
as described previously. Pushing the black, or pulling the scene. etc. Using
a black track keeps your audio tracks from going askew as well.

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 5:59 PM, Frank Glatzel  wrote:

> Thank you very much, Daniel.
> Your suggestion works perfectly and solves half of my problem.
> But when I try to drag a take around the timeline it doesn't seem to stay
> where I drop it. Is there perhaps a snap which I can turn off?
>
> Would be very helpful if I could position a take somewhere in the track.
>
> Ciao Frank
>
> On Wednesday 03 February 2010 18:22:10 Daniel Jircik wrote:
> > When you put the cursor on the beginning of  a scene  move it back over
> the
> > start. Note that the cursor changes to  ->  or <-  when you move the
> cursor
> > over the start or end of the clip. Each one has different functionality
> > when used in drag and drop mode with left mouse button.
> > -> at the head of the clip nudges track forward independent of other
> tracks
> > <- nudges the other way.
> > -> at the end of the clip lengthens the clip
> > <- at the end of the clip shortens it.
> > Play with it to get the hang of it but that's how you can sync up
> multiple
> > cameras etc. Hope hope that is useful.
> > ciao
> > Daniel
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] Nudging takes on the timeline

[Daniel Jircik]

When you put the cursor on the beginning of  a scene  move it back over the
start. Note that the cursor changes to  ->  or <-  when you move the cursor
over the start or end of the clip. Each one has different functionality when
used in drag and drop mode with left mouse button.
-> at the head of the clip nudges track forward independent of other tracks
<- nudges the other way.
-> at the end of the clip lengthens the clip
<- at the end of the clip shortens it.
Play with it to get the hang of it but that's how you can sync up multiple
cameras etc. Hope hope that is useful.
ciao
Daniel

On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 9:46 AM, Frank Glatzel  wrote:

> Hi Scott,
> thank you for your suggestion, but it doesn't solve it, as Cinelerra
> seems to lack the function to grab a take on the timeline and shift it
> around freely on the timeline to any position like a DAW i.e..
> These effect work on the entire track instead.
>
> Ciao Frank
>
> On Wednesday 03 February 2010 16:40:12 Scott C. Frase wrote:
> > Frank,
> > Use the "Delay Audio" audio effect or "Delay Video" video effect
> > scott
> >
> > http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com
> >
> > On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Frank Glatzel wrote:
> > > TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN
> > >
> > > I've been using Cinelerra for quite a while now and really enjoy it.
> > > I'm producing a music video and would like to nudge a take in the
> > > timeline frame-by-frame left or right to lip-sync the sound with the
> > > video.
> > >
> > > How would I go about doing this?
> > > I know there is a function to nudge the entire track, but I only want
> to
> > > nudge a take (clip). Is this function implemented?
> > >
> > > Your help would be really appreciated.
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > >
> > > Frank Glatzel
> > >
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Re: [CinCV] Interlacing / ReframeRT

[Daniel Jircik]

Kino uses dvgrab and I think that option is available in preferances

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 19, 2010, at 1:08 PM, y0017566  wrote:


I've used kino for grabbing
DV ist just grabbing, no transcoding as I had to do with my analog  
videocam in the past.


Chris


Daniel Jircik schrieb:
On your quality issue, I assume you are using dvgrab. Are you  
capturing to mpeg or using the qt option which yeilds much better  
results. (bigger files). Trying to do any pre processing on mpeg  
generally imho is awaste of time. It just falls apart.


dvgrab -f qt

Daniel

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, y0017566 mailto:y0017...@tu-bs.de 
>> wrote:


   p...@ichthyostega.de <mailto:p...@ichthyostega.de> schrieb:

   y0017566 schrieb:

   hello, should the clip be deinterlaced before ReframeRT is
   applied to avoid
   jerks? btw what do you suggest when should be interlaced
   in general? The
   video source ist miniDV PAL interlaced



   Hello,

   the simple answer is: always deinterlace your source footage,
   best even
   before you add it into the project. As said, that is the
   simple answer;
   if your intention is to view the final result mostly on a
   computer monitor,
   your're best off deinterlacing right away.

   This is not the full story; sometimes you might have
   compelling reasons
   to want interlaced footage as a target (output) format of your
   work.
   But I'd say, going this route is always more involved and
   something
   for the more experienced users.

   Note: Cinelerra has basically no support for handling
   interlaced footage.
   If someone knows exactly what to do, it is possible to handle
   interlaced
   footage in spite of this shortcoming. But, as said, best stay
   away from
   that topic unless you want to engage in quite some additional
   difficulties.

   Well -- for sake of completeness I should add, that you can
   squeeze out
   some additional quality especially for the case of slow motion
   done with
   ReframeRT *if* you understand to exploit the additional
   temporal information
   contained in interlaced footage.

   Hope this gives you an general orientation on the topic,
   please feel free to ask more detailed questions if in need of
   additional
   advice!


   Cheers,
   Hermann V.

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   hey,
   thanks for the advice. The problem is, overall, that only one of
   my test deinterlacers can do good enduser deinterlacing. That is
   vlc's "X".

   Some minutes ago I did deinterlacing with avidemux with a
   rendersource from cinelerra.
   All avidemux deinterlacing methods I've tested so far were really
   bad, jerky and so on :(
   It would be great to use the 50 frame advantage of interlaced
   source instead of the progressive 25 fps which results in  
stuttering.


   During my learning process I've alwas tried to raise the qualitiy
   of the source material (camera handling, in the past A/D, now easy
   with DV, no transcoding/damaging of the original source material).
   Therefore I am surprised of your suggestion.

   And no, I doubt I don't understand the relationschip between
   interlacing and concrete advantages in ReframeRT yet

   Regards, Chris


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Re: [CinCV] Interlacing / ReframeRT

[Daniel Jircik]

On your quality issue, I assume you are using dvgrab. Are you capturing to
mpeg or using the qt option which yeilds much better results. (bigger
files). Trying to do any pre processing on mpeg generally imho is awaste of
time. It just falls apart.

dvgrab -f qt

Daniel

On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 6:45 PM, y0017566  wrote:

> p...@ichthyostega.de schrieb:
>
>  y0017566 schrieb:
>>
>>
>>> hello, should the clip be deinterlaced before ReframeRT is applied to
>>> avoid
>>> jerks? btw what do you suggest when should be interlaced in general? The
>>> video source ist miniDV PAL interlaced
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> the simple answer is: always deinterlace your source footage, best even
>> before you add it into the project. As said, that is the simple answer;
>> if your intention is to view the final result mostly on a computer
>> monitor,
>> your're best off deinterlacing right away.
>>
>> This is not the full story; sometimes you might have compelling reasons
>> to want interlaced footage as a target (output) format of your work.
>> But I'd say, going this route is always more involved and something
>> for the more experienced users.
>>
>> Note: Cinelerra has basically no support for handling interlaced footage.
>> If someone knows exactly what to do, it is possible to handle interlaced
>> footage in spite of this shortcoming. But, as said, best stay away from
>> that topic unless you want to engage in quite some additional
>> difficulties.
>>
>> Well -- for sake of completeness I should add, that you can squeeze out
>> some additional quality especially for the case of slow motion done with
>> ReframeRT *if* you understand to exploit the additional temporal
>> information
>> contained in interlaced footage.
>>
>> Hope this gives you an general orientation on the topic,
>> please feel free to ask more detailed questions if in need of additional
>> advice!
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Hermann V.
>>
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>>
> hey,
> thanks for the advice. The problem is, overall, that only one of my test
> deinterlacers can do good enduser deinterlacing. That is vlc's "X".
>
> Some minutes ago I did deinterlacing with avidemux with a rendersource from
> cinelerra.
> All avidemux deinterlacing methods I've tested so far were really bad,
> jerky and so on :(
> It would be great to use the 50 frame advantage of interlaced source
> instead of the progressive 25 fps which results in stuttering.
>
> During my learning process I've alwas tried to raise the qualitiy of the
> source material (camera handling, in the past A/D, now easy with DV, no
> transcoding/damaging of the original source material).
> Therefore I am surprised of your suggestion.
>
> And no, I doubt I don't understand the relationschip between interlacing
> and concrete advantages in ReframeRT yet
>
> Regards, Chris
>
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Re: [CinCV] Histogram / usage with several clips

[Daniel Jircik]

cin hv and cv xml files are incompatible.


On Tue, Jan 19, 2010 at 12:38 PM, Raffaella Traniello <
raffaella.tranie...@livecom.it> wrote:

> Hi!
>
> > does it work without keyframing (just pull the effect under the clip)?
>
> Yes. The histogram works (also) without keyframing.
>
> My quick workflow is:
> - double click on the clip to highlight it.
> - right click on the clip and select "Attach effect" from the pop-up
> menu
> - select "Histogram" in the first column.
>
> The histogram effect will be loaded with the last settings used.
> The "Reset" button is my friend.
>
> > can I use my projekt when changing to CV or will it probably fail?
>
> My attempt to load CV projects to HV failed. :-(
>
> Ciao
> Raffaella
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] Setup Problems

[Daniel Jircik]

Are you using cinelerra-cv or heroinewarrioir 4.1? hw 4.1 seems to be broken
as it's been reported and I can confirm not being able to load clips into
viewer.

On Mon, Jan 18, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Thomas H. George wrote:

> Problems:
>
> The Cinelerra window is only full screen or minimized.  Previously when I
> started Cinelerra all three windows - Cinelerra, Viewer and Compositor
> opened as non-overlapping windows.  Now Viewer and Compositor open
> minimized.
>
> The Viewer window can be opened on top of the Cinelerra window but does not
> contain the loaded file.
>
> The mpeg2 file from my camcorder loads and plays - it was playing very
> slowly but after I disabled Play Every Frame and set the audio to Alsa the
> 29.67 frame rate is achieved.  These settings are probably okay but with no
> viewer I can't be sure.
>
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Re: [CinCV] Movie runs slower than cold molasses

[Daniel Jircik]

select alsa sound driver and do as per Rafaella

- go to Settings -> Preferences -> Playback - Video Out and disable the
"Play every frame" option


On Sun, Jan 17, 2010 at 5:16 PM, y0017566  wrote:

> Thomas H. George schrieb:
>
>  My system is Debian Squeeze with an AMD 64 X2 Dual Core processor and 4 GB
>> of memory.  Cinelerra loads an mpeg movie but it runs so slowly it is hard
>> to tell that it is moving.  What could be wrong?
>>
>> No other applications on my system have this problem. mplayer plays the
>> file with no difficulty.
>>
>> Tom George
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> slower machine Athlon XP 1830 MHz).
> Today I installed the radeon drivers on my machine to reduce CPU Load in 2D
> Drawing. It took about incredible 80% CPU Load to play a zommed timeline
> without any audio/video clips (follow play option enabled). I'm now at 30%
> CPU Load with radeon drivers and follow play option disabled.
> Try to give Cinelerra good files (quicktime/wav), close the flash
> inside your browser and have a look at top. It'll tell you whats eating up
> your CPU Power. gkrellm is fine too to have a look at your filesystem
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Re: [CinCV] Fedora installation instructions

[Daniel Jircik]

A side note on Fedora 12 if you are on amd-64 and need to use the
proprietary ati catalyst drivers they do not install at all on F 12.
Numerous threads on the problem but no success reported.

On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 12:14 PM, sfrase6  wrote:

> Mikko,
> Though I have not tested this particular Cinelerra version, HeroineWarrior
> has precompiled binaries for Cinelerra 4 on Fedora 11 here:
> http://heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra.php#download
>
> My most recent install is Fedora 10, x86-64.  From Fedora 9 and on, use the
> RPM Fusion repository exclusively.  Other repos like ATRpms have nasty
> incompatiblities and you will get weird system and Cinelerra errors if you
> use them.
>
> Here are some notes I've made, plus an install script for Cinelerra on
> Fedora 10, x86-64:
>
> http://crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2009/02/fedora-10-x86-64-cinelerra-build.html
>
> scott
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mikko Huhtala" 
> To: "cinelerra" 
> Sent: Friday, December 11, 2009 2:55:14 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [CinCV] Fedora installation instructions
>
>
> The installation instructions for Fedora in the Wiki and on the web
> page seem to be out of date. The latest distro version mentioned is
> F9, whose end-of-life date passed in June. Freshrpms has been merged
> into RPM Fusion, which does not carry Cinelerra for the current Fedora
> versions. There are packages in the ATrpms repo, but at least for F12,
> rendering seems to be very broken (neither YUV4MPEG streams nor direct
> MPEG rendering work). ATrpms conflicts extensively with RPM Fusion,
> which is a problem, because most users who deal with multimedia are
> likely going to need RPM Fusion at some point.
>
> It looks tome like the users of current Fedora versions (12 and 11)
> are pretty much out of luck as far as precompiled, working RPMs go. Or
> am I missing something?
>
> (I tried to edit the Wiki, but I seem to be unable to log in and
> unable to get a password reminder.)
>
> Mikko
>
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Re: [CinCV] help using proxie files

[Daniel Jircik]

rtm doh.  I didn't generate toc files with mpeg3toc. I assumed it was using
the toc from importing to timeline. Using gentoo from emerge repositories
and mpeg3toc is not a seperate executable. Do I need to build from source
then?

* you are in directory /mnt/dm-3/mov01/earthdance
* imeditately below this directory, there are the two subdirectories
 called "hdv" and "proxyfiles"

No has directories - ladspa thumbs titles
I have everything in one directory

* your full res media is within the "hdv" subdirectory and has an filename
 extension of *.toc
* your proxy files are in the subdirectory "proxyfiles" and have an
 filename extension of *.avi
* the rest of the filenames is always pairwise identical, for example
 full res --> "hdv/abcXYZ1.toc"
 proxy--> "proxyfiles/abcXYZ1.avi"

d

On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 12:46 AM, Ichthyostega  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Daniel Jircik schrieb:
> > Indeed the single quotes were different and chmod gave me permission
> still
> > not there yet
>
> so, lets get it nailed down one by one ;-)
>
> First of all, the manual seems to be quite broken here. All the parameters
> need double dashes, when using the long form.
>
>
>
> > dan...@sabayon /mnt/dm-3/mov01/earthdance $ ./proxychange.py
> earthdance04.xml
> > -from 'hdv/(\w+)\.toc' -to 'proxyfiles/\1.avi' -scale 2.0
>
> thus, please try
>
> ./proxychange.py earthdance04.xml --scale 2.0   \
>   --from 'hdv/(\w+)\.toc' --to 'proxyfiles/\1.avi'
>
>
> But, let's also immediately verify that we're applying the right logic.
> Is the following correct for your situation?
>
> * you are in directory /mnt/dm-3/mov01/earthdance
> * imeditately below this directory, there are the two subdirectories
>  called "hdv" and "proxyfiles"
> * your full res media is within the "hdv" subdirectory and has an filename
>  extension of *.toc
> * your proxy files are in the subdirectory "proxyfiles" and have an
>  filename extension of *.avi
> * the rest of the filenames is always pairwise identical, for example
>  full res --> "hdv/abcXYZ1.toc"
>  proxy--> "proxyfiles/abcXYZ1.avi"
>
> If anything of the above is *not* correct, we need to adjust the
> search and replacement patterns given by --from and --to
>
> Moreover, your scale factor for the camera automation makes me
> suspicious...
> The purpose of this factor is to stretch the proxy media out to fill your
> full canvas, so you can work with masks and the like.
> You said, you're working with HDV media, which has an original resolution
> of 1440 x 1080, is that correct?
> Then, you made proxy files of resolution 320 x 240. Thus, the scale factor
> should be rather 1080 / 240 = 4.5
>
> Cheers,
> Hermann V.
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] help using proxie files

[Daniel Jircik]

Indeed the single quotes were different and chmod gave me permission  still
not there yet

dan...@sabayon /mnt/dm-3/mov01/earthdance $ ./proxychange.py
earthdance04.xml -from 'hdv/(\w+)\.toc' -to 'proxyfiles/\1.avi' -scale 2.0
Minidom wird gehackt
Minidom.Element=__main__.MyElement
['./proxychange.py', 'earthdance04.xml', '-from', 'hdv/(\\w+)\\.toc', '-to',
'proxyfiles/\\1.avi', '-scale', '2.0']
Usage: proxychange.py filename.xml --search  --replace 
[options]

proxychange.py: error: option -s: invalid floating-point value: 'cale'
dan...@sabayon /mnt/dm-3/mov01/earthdance $

thanks
daniel

On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:16 PM, Ichthyostega  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> Daniel Jircik schrieb:
> > I'm assuming it overwrites the xml file and you reload that into
> cinelerra?
> > I'm a little confused as to workflow. Thanks in advance.
>
> Hello Daniel,
>
> yes, the script "overwrites the xml" (actually it moves it aside as *.bak
> and dumps out a new xml under the original name. As for the workflow (sigh)
> it is a dirty little hack, basically something what you could do with a
> text editor as well. It does a search-and-replace action within your
> session xml, which relies on the resources having all a regular and
> common name pattern, which we can search-and-replace...
>
> > Then I ... ran the proxychange script as follows:
>
> > dan...@sabayon /mnt/dm-3/mov01/earthdance $ ./proxychange.py
> > earthdance04.xml -from `hdv/(\w+)\.toc` -to `proxyfiles/\1.avi` -scale
> 2.0
> > bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token
> `\w+'
> > bash: command substitution: line 1: `hdv/(\w+)\.toc'
> > bash: proxyfiles/1.avi: No such file or directory
> > bash: ./proxychange.py: Permission denied
>
> see the bash (your shell) is printing those error messages, so it
> looks as if we didn't get at all to the point where this python script
> is executed.
>
> Moreover, the shell complains about syntax errors and command substitutions
> in a part of the command line which wasn't intended to be read by the
> shell.
> For this reason, we put single quotes in there, round the parameters.
> It may well be, that just by copying from the webpage, those single quotes
> '
> got changed into another character (probably a back-tick ` ).
>
> Basically, single quotes tell the shell: "don't interpret this, just pass
> it
> on literally as argument to the command!" We need this behaviour in this
> case,
> as the python script expects the search term and replacement specification
> in
> so called "regular expression syntax", which uses some symbols which have a
> completely unrelated and different meaning for the shell.
>
> The last error message ("permission denied") might be an indication that
> you need to set the "executable flag" on the proxychange.py script, so it
> can be run as a program. You can do this by "chmod u+x proxychange.py"
>
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[CinCV] help using proxie files

[Daniel Jircik]

As per:
http://cinelerra.org/docs/split_manual_en/cinelerra_cv_manual_en_21.html#SEC310

I sucsessfully made 320x240 avi from hdv m2t files
 for i in *.m2t;do mencoder -mc 0 -noskip $i -ovc lavc -lavcopts
vcodec=mjpeg -vf scale=320:240 -oac pcm -o `basename $i m2t`avi; done

Then I loaded the hdv files as new resources in cinelerra saved as
earthdance04.xml and ran the proxychange script as follows:

dan...@sabayon /mnt/dm-3/mov01/earthdance $ ./proxychange.py
earthdance04.xml -from `hdv/(\w+)\.toc` -to `proxyfiles/\1.avi` -scale 2.0
bash: command substitution: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `\w+'
bash: command substitution: line 1: `hdv/(\w+)\.toc'
bash: proxyfiles/1.avi: No such file or directory
bash: ./proxychange.py: Permission denied

I'm assuming it overwrites the xml file and you reload that into cinelerra?
I'm a little confused as to workflow. Thanks in advance.
Daniel

Re: [CinCV] piping in external X264 / script

[Daniel Jircik]

Have you seen this?
http://smorgasbork.com/linux/35-linux/92-ffmpeg-the-mother-of-all-command-lines
D

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 5:41 AM, E Chalaron  wrote:

>  nobody really ? :-(
> E
>
>
> E Chalaron wrote:
>
> A year ago or so, Ildar provided me with this script to use x264
>
> *#/bin/bash
> fichier=$1.264
> mkfifo stream.y4m
> x264  --sar 1:1 -m 6 --me umh -b 4 --b-pyramid \
> --bitrate 38500 --threads 2 -o $fichier stream.y4m  &
> sleep 0.5
> cat /dev/stdin  > stream.y4m
> rm stream.y4m
> *
> I'd like to improve it... however my skills at mixing pipes is not 
> that great.
> I tried (without success) the following
>
> *#/bin/bash
> fichier=$1.264
> mkfifo stream.y4m
> **mkfifo stream2.y4m*
> *
> cat** stream2.y4m | yuvdenoise | y4mshift ->** stream.y4m
> **
> x264  --sar 1:1 -m 6 --me umh -b 4 --b-pyramid \
> --bitrate 24000 --threads 2 -o $fichier stream.y4m  &
> sleep 0.5
> cat /dev/stdin  > stream2.y4m
> rm stream.y4m*
> *rm stream2.y4m*
>
> Any idea what I got wrong?
>
> Thanks a lot
> E
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Re: [CinCV] BlackMagic Capture Software

[Daniel Jircik]

working now got it.
Make error:
dan...@sabayon ~/src/bm_capture_export $ make
g++ -Wno-multichar -fno-rtti -g main.cpp -c -o main.o
g++ -Wno-multichar -fno-rtti -g aux_functions.cpp -c -o aux_functions.o
g++ -Wno-multichar -fno-rtti -g -lm -ldl -lpthread -lGL -lDeckLinkAPI main.o
aux_functions.o -o bm_capture
/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/4.3.2/../../../../x86_64-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld:
cannot find -lDeckLinkAPI
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make: *** [bm_capture] Error 1


On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 1:17 AM, Daniel Jircik  wrote:

> I think thats a dead link it timed out...
> d
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Daniel Jircik  wrote:
>
>> Thanks  I'll try it out and report back. I set up a 4 drive 2 tb raid0
>> array with xfs filesystem amd64x4 phenom a 4 gigs ram so it should be
>> interesting - d
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2009, at 5:28 PM, "Rafael Diniz"  wrote:
>>
>>  Hi people,
>>> Sorry for the delay.
>>> Here is the capture software I did.
>>> Please edit the source code to pick the input you want to grab.
>>>
>>> http://juba.tvlivre.org/bm_capture_export.tar.gz
>>>
>>> This is very experimental, and has no buffering at all, so if you try to
>>> store a video that has a higher bitrate that your hard disc can handle,
>>> you'll get a segmentation fault...
>>>
>>> The pixel format BM output is yuyv (4:2:2), and audio is raw PCM 16 bits.
>>>
>>> Bye,
>>> Rafael Diniz
>>>
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Re: [CinCV] Ping Raffa re: Blackmagic

[Daniel Jircik]

:-0
Ping!
D

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 7:35 PM,  wrote:

> Pong!
>
> > Hi Raffa
>
> Hi Daniel!
> (but it is not me you want) :-)
>
> Ciao!
> Raffa(ella Traniello)
>
>
>
>
>
> -
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Re: [CinCV] BlackMagic Capture Software

[Daniel Jircik]

I think thats a dead link it timed out...
d

On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:49 PM, Daniel Jircik  wrote:

> Thanks  I'll try it out and report back. I set up a 4 drive 2 tb raid0
> array with xfs filesystem amd64x4 phenom a 4 gigs ram so it should be
> interesting - d
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 10, 2009, at 5:28 PM, "Rafael Diniz"  wrote:
>
>  Hi people,
>> Sorry for the delay.
>> Here is the capture software I did.
>> Please edit the source code to pick the input you want to grab.
>>
>> http://juba.tvlivre.org/bm_capture_export.tar.gz
>>
>> This is very experimental, and has no buffering at all, so if you try to
>> store a video that has a higher bitrate that your hard disc can handle,
>> you'll get a segmentation fault...
>>
>> The pixel format BM output is yuyv (4:2:2), and audio is raw PCM 16 bits.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Rafael Diniz
>>
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Re: [CinCV] BlackMagic Capture Software

[Daniel Jircik]

Thanks  I'll try it out and report back. I set up a 4 drive 2 tb raid0  
array with xfs filesystem amd64x4 phenom a 4 gigs ram so it should be  
interesting - d


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 10, 2009, at 5:28 PM, "Rafael Diniz"  wrote:


Hi people,
Sorry for the delay.
Here is the capture software I did.
Please edit the source code to pick the input you want to grab.

http://juba.tvlivre.org/bm_capture_export.tar.gz

This is very experimental, and has no buffering at all, so if you  
try to
store a video that has a higher bitrate that your hard disc can  
handle,

you'll get a segmentation fault...

The pixel format BM output is yuyv (4:2:2), and audio is raw PCM 16  
bits.


Bye,
Rafael Diniz


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Re: [CinCV] After installing Cinelerra can't find out to start the program

[Daniel Jircik]

/usr/local/bin/cinelerra

On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 9:36 AM, Justin Strack wrote:

>  I just installed Cinelerra but I can’t find the link to start the program
> how do I start the program?
>

Re: [CinCV] Ping Raffa re: Blackmagic

[Daniel Jircik]

That would be great thanks! I want to capture from component.
thanks again

djircik at gmail dot com

sometimes gmail is picky about extensions if it bounces rename it .txt or
something

On Tue, Sep 8, 2009 at 2:10 AM, Rafael Diniz  wrote:

> There is not a sample capture application in BM sdk for linux.
> I can send you the one I wrote (outputs raw yuyv and raw pcm audio, that
> can be fed to ffmpeg)
>
> bye,
> rafael diniz
>
> > Hi Raffa
> > Could you point me to the 2 supposed applications included with the
> > blackmagic sdk, It says look for them in osx samples/docs but I'm not
> > seeing
> > it. I've successfully got the module loaded and firmware is up to date
> > just
> > need some usage guidance. Built from source on Gentoo (Sabayon 4.2)
> > Thanks
> > Daniel
> >
>
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[CinCV] Gentoo package fail

[Daniel Jircik]

AMD 64x4 phenom Gentoo (Sabayoon 4.2)
anyone else having this issue?
ciao
Daniel

Error from emerge:
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In file included from
bcsubwindow.h:5,

 from
bcbar.h:5,

 from
bcbar.C:1:

bcwindowbase.h:73:38: error: X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h: No such file or
directory
In file included from
bcsubwindow.h:5,

 from
bcbutton.h:5,

 from
bcfilebox.h:4,

 from
bcresources.h:12,

 from
bcbitmap.C:3:

bcwindowbase.h:73:38: error: X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h: No such file or
directory
In file included from
bcsubwindow.h:5,

 from
bcbutton.h:5,

 from
bcbutton.C:1:

bcwindowbase.h:73:38: error: X11/extensions/xf86vmode.h: No such file or
directory
In file included from
bcsubwindow.h:5,

 from
bcbar.h:5,

 from
bcbar.C:1:

bcwindowbase.h:815: error: ‘XF86VidModeModeInfo’ does not name a
type
In file included from bcsubwindow.h:5,
 from bcbutton.h:5,
 from bcbutton.C:1:
bcwindowbase.h:815: error: ‘XF86VidModeModeInfo’ does not name a type
In file included from bcsubwindow.h:5,
 from bcbutton.h:5,
 from bcfilebox.h:4,
 from bcresources.h:12,
 from bcbitmap.C:3:
bcwindowbase.h:815: error: ‘XF86VidModeModeInfo’ does not name a type
make[2]: *** [bcbar.lo] Error 1
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
bcbutton.C: In constructor ‘BC_OKButton::BC_OKButton(BC_WindowBase*,
VFrame**)’:
bcbutton.C:243: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to
‘char*’
bcbutton.C: In constructor ‘BC_OKButton::BC_OKButton(BC_WindowBase*)’:
bcbutton.C:251: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to
‘char*’
bcbutton.C: In constructor ‘BC_CancelButton::BC_CancelButton(int, int)’:
bcbutton.C:299: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to
‘char*’
bcbutton.C: In constructor
‘BC_CancelButton::BC_CancelButton(BC_WindowBase*)’:
bcbutton.C:307: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to
‘char*’
bcbutton.C: In constructor ‘BC_CancelButton::BC_CancelButton(BC_WindowBase*,
VFrame**)’:
bcbutton.C:315: warning: deprecated conversion from string constant to
‘char*’
make[2]: *** [bcbitmap.lo] Error 1
make[2]: *** [bcbutton.lo] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
 *
 * ERROR: media-video/cinelerra-20090210 failed.
 * Call stack:
 *   ebuild.sh, line   49:  Called src_compile
 * environment, line 2804:  Called die
 * The specific snippet of code:
 *   emake || die "make failed"
 *  The die message:
 *   make failed
 *
 * If you need support, post the topmost build error, and the call stack if
relevant.
 * A complete build log is located at
'/var/lib/entropy/logs/media-video:cinelerra-20090210:20090907-195950.log'.
 * The ebuild environment file is located at
'/var/tmp/portage/media-video/cinelerra-20090210/temp/environment'.
 *

>>> Failed to emerge media-video/cinelerra-20090210, Log file:

>>>
'/var/lib/entropy/logs/media-video:cinelerra-20090210:20090907-195950.log'

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[CinCV] Ping Raffa re: Blackmagic

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi Raffa
Could you point me to the 2 supposed applications included with the
blackmagic sdk, It says look for them in osx samples/docs but I'm not seeing
it. I've successfully got the module loaded and firmware is up to date just
need some usage guidance. Built from source on Gentoo (Sabayon 4.2)
Thanks
Daniel

Re: [CinCV] Re: cheapo video camera

[Daniel Jircik]

The canon elura line was massively produced reliable works great with  
dvgrab and  on eBay in quantity I would imagine.


Sent from my iPhone

On Aug 22, 2009, at 9:20 AM, schoappied  wrote:


schoappied wrote:

Hi,

I'm looking for a cheapo second hand video camera < 100 euro's.

What are good camera's?

Which camera's does work on Linux?

Any other things to look at?


Thanks in advance,

\d


anyone please?

Thanks

~D

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Re: [CinCV] about the blackmagic intensity

[Daniel Jircik]

That's great news I'm going to get one. Did you get a chance to try
component capture? How big were the files.

On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 12:27 AM, Rafael Diniz  wrote:

> hello people,
> I tested the BM Intensity Pro under Linux at work, and it works quite well.
> It outputs YCbCr 4:2:2 (UYVY), and I could store a 1080i footage using a
> RAID-0
> two 320 Gb SATA II 7200rpm normal consumer discs.
> Of course, you can pipe this video output to any encoder, like ffmpeg or
> x264 and
> use a lossless or lossy encoding.
> One other very nice thing is that the card outputs the video synced w/ the
> audio, thing that we sometimes miss w/ some analog video capture setups in
> linux.
> And of course, the HD video capture using the HDMI port is a very nice
> feature
> to have.
>
> bye,
> rafael diniz
>
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Re: [CinCV] Video: Phantom, Kiss the Girl

[Daniel Jircik]

 The tripod is your friend..

On Fri, Aug 7, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Norval Watson  wrote:

> - Original Message 
>
>
> >
> > What about the audio mix?  Was that also too much?
> > I know this video is over the top.  My intention was to mix brainwave
> > entrainment with the intense flashing we get from action movie trailors
> on the
> > big screen that burn images into our retinas - The difference is that
> movie
> > goers plunked down their hard earned cash to rent that seat, so they're
> gonna
> > take in every moment on that big screen they possibly can, even if it
> means
> > sitting through mind gouging trailors... If my video makes you
> hallucinate, then
> > I've done my job.
> >
> >
> > Randolph wrote:
> >
> > > > Can be found at youtube or your fav video server:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5o8J5k-tlY
> > > >
> > > > Let me know if it's too much. Thanks in advance!
>
> The overall impression I got was that it was edited by a hyper-active
> crackhead on supermega methamphetamines who was eating a kilogram of coffee
> beans by the spoonful while turning all the dials up to 11 and... and...
> and... and when you combine that with the dancing and the costumes, it was
> one of the most amazing things I've ever seen.
> Was it too much?
> No, thanks for posting :)
>
> Norv
>
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] teaching at school: hard/software advice?

[Daniel Jircik]

Hey Tom could you forward a copy to me as well?
thanks
Daniel

On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Ichthyostega  wrote:

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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>
> > Kurt Georg Hooss schrieb:
> >> Do I have to compile from source tarball?
>
> Ichthyostega schrieb:
> > personally, I'd first try to get hold of an debian source package,
> > or alternatively of an ubuntu source package and try to build it
> > "the debian way".
>
>
> Well.. I've just checked Ubuntu: they provide a tovid package in
> their "multiverse" (=extras) repository. Now, while it is not
> advisable to use plain-vanilla ubuntu packages as-is in debian,
> we can try to rebuild the package from the corresponding source
> package on a debian system.
>
> Actually, in this case this was quite simple. I needed just
> to download the source package parts and rebuild them here.
>
> Kurt, now please tell me:
>
> - - do you need packages for a Debian/Lenny system?
> - - is this a 32bit system or a 64bit system?
>
> ...because in this cases, I could just build the package
> for you without any effort.
>
> Cheers,
> Hermann
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Re: [CinCV] teaching at school: hard/software advice?

[Daniel Jircik]

"for storage of raw and project related material, i think
i will suggest using external (usb) harddisks, to be independent
of particular machines and avoid network clogging."

I would do some testing before you commit to live cd and usb storage.
Depending on how much ram each machine has it would probably be pretty
choppy.


"Before making your students installing Linux as a Windows/Mac
replacement or with dual boot you need to have them *really* convinced
Linux is the way to go.
To get there is long and hard."

I don't think you have to be to evangelical about it after all there is a
certain cool wow factor that I have found to impress evan the most jaded.  A
classroom is not a democracy. I would devote the first session to
transitioning and familiarization with the environment. There's lots of
resources online for win/mac to linux transition/familiarization. Then test
them on knowlege essentials mainly filesystem structures and basic basic
commandline operands. When I'm showing someone completely unfamiliar I like
to open a window go to the top directory " / " hit return and make the
statement "Here is the most organized filing cabinet you will ever
encounter. Everything it does or you will ever need is here. Guess where
your stuff will be?  /home ."  Instead of a C: drive or "My network
whatever" that everything is a file is a hard concept for some to grasp.


"meanwhile, i have tested artistx live (just a little), looks good.
still installing and testing debian, wondering what might be
the (dis)advantages of live systems for video production education?"

A basic debian install is kind of dry, aestheticly,  and system wise a bit
bare bones. I would save that for an advanced class. Wow factor is important
and I think you are better off with Artistx or a Gentoo based sytem that has
good Cinelerra repositories is Sabayon. Very stable drop dead gorgeous and
all the multimedia codecs including libdvdcss for dvd playback.
http://www.sabayonlinux.org/

Daniel



On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:15 AM, Raffaella Traniello <
raffaella.tranie...@livecom.it> wrote:

> Hi Georg!
>
> > any ideas what model might suit the needs of almost-grown-up students
> > (age around 18 years)? analog and dv in/out would be great,
> > durability is important, what else matters?
>
> For long shootings you need an external battery charger (so you can keep
> shooting with the spare battery). At school I use it a lot.
>
> > meanwhile, i have tested artistx live (just a little), looks good.
> > still installing and testing debian, wondering what might be
> > the (dis)advantages of live systems for video production education?
>
> Before making your students installing Linux as a Windows/Mac
> replacement or with dual boot you need to have them *really* convinced
> Linux is the way to go.
> To get there is long and hard.
>
> With a live CD they can use Linux at home also if they are not so
> convinced. The more they use it at home the quicker they get *really*
> convinced.
>
> Ciao!
> Raffalla
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] teaching at school: hard/software advice?

[Daniel Jircik]

I noticed artistx did not list cinelerra in their online documentation but
it is included.
D

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:57 AM, Daniel Jircik  wrote:

> Take a look at ArtistX it's debian based and has everything you need and
> then some. It also runs as a live disk. That way you can see if you are
> having any hardware issues before installing to hard drive.
> http://www.artistx.org/site2/
>
> If you want to build from scratch I wrote a script awhile back (I'm not a
> programer) that works fairly well installing the entire debian multimedia
> repo with keys etc. Takes forever though.
> http://reggaecobras.com/linuxvideo/
>
> I would echo Christian in that you should stay away from hd and concentrate
> on SD as you are working with 32 bit machines.
> ciao
> Daniel
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Christian Thaeter  wrote:
>
>> Kurt Georg Hooss wrote:
>> > sorry if a bit off-topic, hope not too far off.
>> > starting in september, i have to teach video production
>> > in a literature class 12 (20 to 35 students around 18 years old).
>> >
>> > obviously, an open-source production pipeline is best suited
>> > (thanks raffa & christian for arguments). the school seems ready
>> > to install everything necessary on a number of p4 (32bit) machines.
>> I hope they have at least 1GB memory, better more.
>>
>> >
>> > up to now, all machines can boot windows from a central server,
>> > and i have seen there is a (not-working) ubuntu test installation too
>> > which they said could be improved or replaced by something reasonable.
>> >
>> > ubuntu studio looks promising but has no cinelerra in it,
>> > so some number of things must be additionally installed anyway.
>> > is there any other distro that you can recommend for the purpose?
>> >
>> > for example, i have good experience with suse 10.3 (kde 3.5, quite
>> stable),
>> > however i had to install cin+codecs and lots of things from packman,
>> > but all that is fairly reproducible so i will probably go for that.
>>
>> I have debian lenny + debian-multimedia which has cinelerra packaged. I
>> didnt even checked if thats the newest version, prolly not, but it works
>> resonable well for me.
>> >
>> > so far, the school has no camera. they are ready to get some
>> > and asked me to tell them what i need. so, what do you think i should
>> order?
>> > how many? and what model? please advise.
>>
>> as soon uwiki becomes useable I would like to make a open hardware
>> exchange plattform. Just some structured wiki pages where people can
>> announce what unused hardware they can offer (and for what conditions)
>> and on the other side what people would like to have. That all voluntary
>> and just as platform to come together, no commercial intent and no ebay
>> like pseudo auction.
>>
>> Otherwise, I guess raffa can give the best advice on hardware, you
>> certainly dont need 25 cameras, 1-2 reasonable cheap consumer models
>> would prolly do. Considering that you can't have the best possible
>> hardware, I'd also suggest to work with SD (PAL/DV) footage only, dont
>> even think about HD.
>>
>> You'll certainly need quite some harddisk space to archive your footage.
>> Some central server with a lot of space (I really recommend raid for
>> disk redundancy here) would do this with as much hd space as you can
>> afford (thinking about 1TB 3x500GB disks as software raid5 have a good
>> price point currently, maybe more when you can afford it), then your
>> classroom machines may use older/smaller/existing disks prolly anything
>> >80GB will work for smaller projects. For performance reasons the
>> students likely have to copy their footage to their machines, or you use
>> some local caching filesystem, AFS comes in mind here, but needs someone
>> who knows how to administrate it.
>>
>> Dunno if this suggestions help, a lot things are quite variable
>> depending on what exactly you want to do and if this courses will hold
>> more often and thus investment in hardware and software (administration)
>>  will make sense in the long run.
>>
>>Christian
>>
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>

Re: [CinCV] teaching at school: hard/software advice?

[Daniel Jircik]

Take a look at ArtistX it's debian based and has everything you need and
then some. It also runs as a live disk. That way you can see if you are
having any hardware issues before installing to hard drive.
http://www.artistx.org/site2/

If you want to build from scratch I wrote a script awhile back (I'm not a
programer) that works fairly well installing the entire debian multimedia
repo with keys etc. Takes forever though.
http://reggaecobras.com/linuxvideo/

I would echo Christian in that you should stay away from hd and concentrate
on SD as you are working with 32 bit machines.
ciao
Daniel

On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Christian Thaeter  wrote:

> Kurt Georg Hooss wrote:
> > sorry if a bit off-topic, hope not too far off.
> > starting in september, i have to teach video production
> > in a literature class 12 (20 to 35 students around 18 years old).
> >
> > obviously, an open-source production pipeline is best suited
> > (thanks raffa & christian for arguments). the school seems ready
> > to install everything necessary on a number of p4 (32bit) machines.
> I hope they have at least 1GB memory, better more.
>
> >
> > up to now, all machines can boot windows from a central server,
> > and i have seen there is a (not-working) ubuntu test installation too
> > which they said could be improved or replaced by something reasonable.
> >
> > ubuntu studio looks promising but has no cinelerra in it,
> > so some number of things must be additionally installed anyway.
> > is there any other distro that you can recommend for the purpose?
> >
> > for example, i have good experience with suse 10.3 (kde 3.5, quite
> stable),
> > however i had to install cin+codecs and lots of things from packman,
> > but all that is fairly reproducible so i will probably go for that.
>
> I have debian lenny + debian-multimedia which has cinelerra packaged. I
> didnt even checked if thats the newest version, prolly not, but it works
> resonable well for me.
> >
> > so far, the school has no camera. they are ready to get some
> > and asked me to tell them what i need. so, what do you think i should
> order?
> > how many? and what model? please advise.
>
> as soon uwiki becomes useable I would like to make a open hardware
> exchange plattform. Just some structured wiki pages where people can
> announce what unused hardware they can offer (and for what conditions)
> and on the other side what people would like to have. That all voluntary
> and just as platform to come together, no commercial intent and no ebay
> like pseudo auction.
>
> Otherwise, I guess raffa can give the best advice on hardware, you
> certainly dont need 25 cameras, 1-2 reasonable cheap consumer models
> would prolly do. Considering that you can't have the best possible
> hardware, I'd also suggest to work with SD (PAL/DV) footage only, dont
> even think about HD.
>
> You'll certainly need quite some harddisk space to archive your footage.
> Some central server with a lot of space (I really recommend raid for
> disk redundancy here) would do this with as much hd space as you can
> afford (thinking about 1TB 3x500GB disks as software raid5 have a good
> price point currently, maybe more when you can afford it), then your
> classroom machines may use older/smaller/existing disks prolly anything
> >80GB will work for smaller projects. For performance reasons the
> students likely have to copy their footage to their machines, or you use
> some local caching filesystem, AFS comes in mind here, but needs someone
> who knows how to administrate it.
>
> Dunno if this suggestions help, a lot things are quite variable
> depending on what exactly you want to do and if this courses will hold
> more often and thus investment in hardware and software (administration)
>  will make sense in the long run.
>
>Christian
>
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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra 4 Gui non responsive

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi Norv
Yes I have to no avail. Here is the console output on terminating the
program with CTRL>C . Tried a fresh install also.

Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
^Csignal_entry: got SIGINT my pid=31825 execution table size=16:
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1304
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1314
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1320
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1324
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1326
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1328
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1330
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1332
tipwindow.C: create_objects: 154
tipwindow.C: create_objects: 157
tipwindow.C: create_objects: 160
tipwindow.C: create_objects: 165
tipwindow.C: create_objects: 168
tipwindow.C: create_objects: 171
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1339
mwindow.C: create_objects: 1342
signal_entry: lock table size=17
0x23d7760 RemoveThread::input_lock RemoveThread::run
0x3446770 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
0x3531b20 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
0x3532680 MainIndexes::input_lock MainIndexes::run 1
0x35cf280 ResourceThread::draw_lock ResourceThread::run
0x23d7550 BC_Synchronous::next_command BC_Synchronous::run
0x3533240 Cinelerra: Program BC_WindowBase::dispatch_event 2
0x3533240 Cinelerra: Program BC_Repeater::run
0x3533240 Cinelerra: Program BC_Repeater::run
0x31a7cb0 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x31a60a0 Cinelerra: Resources BC_Repeater::run
0x360db20 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x33d3020 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x3301750 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x3486bc0 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x36b3b00 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
0x3448670 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0
BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files
SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0
Aborted
dan...@debian:~/src/cin4$




On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Norval Watson  wrote:

> Have you tried loading your file in CinCV from the command line, eg>
> cinelerra file.xml ?
> Norv
>
>
> ------
> *From:* Daniel Jircik 
> *To:* cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> *Sent:* Saturday, 6 June, 2009 3:33:16 PM
> *Subject:* [CinCV] Cinelerra 4 Gui non responsive
>
> Has anyone had instance of Cinelerra 4 Ubuntu Binary gui becoming non
> responsive? It was running fine then I came back to the project a week later
> and I got problems. AMD 64 quad phenom Debian Lenny . No error message in
> console. You can select and drag windows around but mouse on functions does
> nothing. Cin CV works but doesn't like the xml generated by cinelerra 4 and
> hangs on load. I'm mid stream and stopped on a project if anyone has any
> suggestions
> thanks
> Daniel
>
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[CinCV] Cinelerra 4 Gui non responsive

[Daniel Jircik]

Has anyone had instance of Cinelerra 4 Ubuntu Binary gui becoming non
responsive? It was running fine then I came back to the project a week later
and I got problems. AMD 64 quad phenom Debian Lenny . No error message in
console. You can select and drag windows around but mouse on functions does
nothing. Cin CV works but doesn't like the xml generated by cinelerra 4 and
hangs on load. I'm mid stream and stopped on a project if anyone has any
suggestions
thanks
Daniel

[CinCV] HDV to Vimeo / Youtube Workflow

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi
Looking for critique and suggestions for hdv to web hd workflow. I like
vimeo... results:
http://vimeo.com/4684883

dvgrab -a -f hdv

Load clips and render to 720p Quicktime for Linux using translate,
deinterlace and sharpen

yuva 4:2:2 planar file is  apr. 5 GB per min
uncompressed rgb is apr 10 GB per min.

Edit and render Quicktime for Linux.

As per this very informative thread:
http://flowplayer.org/forum/7/12671
I got pretty good h264 results.

mp4 from yuva 4:2:2 is apr 15 MB per min
mp4 from uncompressed rgb is 30 MB per min

the ffmpeg comandline is:

$ ffmpeg -y -i 720-yuv-test2.mov -acodec libfaac -ar 44100 -ab 96k -vcodec
libx264 -level 41 -crf 20 -bufsize 2k -maxrate 25000k -g 250 -r 20 -s
1280x720 -coder 1 -flags +loop -cmp +chroma -partitions
+parti4x4+partp8x8+partb8x8 -flags2 +brdo+dct8x8+bpyramid -me umh -subq 7
-me_range 16 -keyint_min 25 -sc_threshold 40 -i_qfactor 0.71 -rc_eq
'blurCplx^(1-qComp)' -bf 16 -b_strategy 1 -bidir_refine 1 -refs 6
-deblockalpha 0 -deblockbeta 0 vimeohd2.mp4

It ended up being a bit choppier than I had hoped and there is a small audio
delay.

Where I was not sucsessful was trying to render mpeg2 with cinelerra as per
crazed mulehttp://
crazedmuleproductions.blogspot.com/2007/06/beginners-guide-to-exporting-video-from.htmls
Audio rendered but video crashed with errors.
Is mpeg any better than x264 ?

Suggestions?

Kind Regards
Daniel Jircik
http://reggaecobras.com

[CinCV] HDV Playback Errors

[Daniel Jircik]

Trying to cut some hdv and playback is corrupted. Play forward fine, any
jogging or reverse play garbled and out of context.
System: AMD quad phenom
Debian Lenny
Cinelerra Marilat Debian Multimedia as well as Cinelerra 4 Ubuntu Binary
Format: User Defined hdv 1440x1080 16:9 YUVA

Help !

Console errors during bad playback:

[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 15 65
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]ac-tex damaged at 10 66
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]mb incr damaged
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]concealing 1620 DC, 1620 AC, 1620 MV errors
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 1 50
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 12 51
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 1 52
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 6 53
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 1 54
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]slice mismatch
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]ac-tex damaged at 4 56
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 2 57
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]invalid mb type in B Frame at 2 58
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]invalid mb type in B Frame at 38 59
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 0 60
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 1 61
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]invalid mb type in B Frame at 2 62
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 24 63
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 2 64
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]00 motion_type at 15 65
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]ac-tex damaged at 10 66
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]mb incr damaged
[mpeg2video @ 0xdebc00]concealing 1620 DC, 1620 AC, 1620 MV errors

ciao
Daniel

Re: [CinCV] Making pictures 'pop-up' in cinelerra

[Daniel Jircik]

Perhaps you could use the images resized to an image smaller than the video
frame with a green border, Make a jpeg of just the green background the same
size as your video frame (1440x1080 16:9 aspect) On a 2nd video track expand
the frame to cover your timeline and insert pic where needed. Then on your
original track use chroma key. right click on chroma key and use get color
from picker or adjust accordingly.

If you know how to use blender you could animate your images on a green
bacground and do the same thing with more sophisticated camera movements but
you should be able to use the camera/projector automation to set your image
where ever you want with cinelerra.

My 2 cents

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:49 PM, U.G.  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> I'm currently cutting some HD videos from our last vacation and I thought
> it'd be a neat idea to do the following:
>
> everytime anyone makes a picture on the video, the taken picture 'pops up'
> in the scene, so in the video you can actually see the scene in two
> perspectives, a little bit like in a comic strip.
>
> What I did so far is adding another video track, armed only the new one,
> marked the area where I want to put the jpeg to an played a little bit with
> the z axis.
>
> So far so good. The picture 'pops up' like intended to do, but when it
> disappears it leaves a black box with the size of the picture...
> I don't know what I can do about this.
> It would be really nice if it didn'd fade to black but fade out 'to the
> other', main video track, so it would automatically not leave a black box
> behind...
>
> Any Ideas how I could do this?
>
> Thanks a lot!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Uli-G
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Re: [CinCV] Re: Suggestions for Blackmagic Design

[Daniel Jircik]

Do you know if component input will be supported? I need a solution for a
semi lossless  recording using cinelerras native quicktime for linux codec
yuva 4:2:2 Reason being trying to do any type of compositing of particularly
chroma key mpeg2 from hdv just falls aprt and looks terrible. Yes the files
will be huge but storage is cheap. 4 drives raid0 7200 recomended.
Anyone else have any thoughts on a lossless or semi lossless codec?
ciao
Daniel

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:48 PM, Terje J. Hanssen  wrote:

> If no other comments, I'll post my suggestions directly to Blackmagic
> Design as follows:
>
> Suggested capture write to and playback of standard compressed video
> file formats
> (4:3 and 16:9 a.r)
>
> 1. SD-video
> 
> DV25
> MPEG-2
> - m...@ml (DVD video compatible)
> - m...@ml (BD-R/-RE AV compatible)
> - 4...@ml
> Theora/Ogg (free BSD license)
>http://theora.org/
>
>
> 2. HD-Video
> ---
> MPEG-2
> - m...@h-14 (HDV, BD-R/-RE AV compatible)
> - m...@hl (BD-R/-RE AV compatible)
> - 4...@h-14
> - 4...@hl
> H.264
> - HiP (BD-R/-RE AV compatible)
> - Hi422P
> Theora/Ogg (free BSD license)
>http://theora.org/
>
>
> 3. What I've found so far about 'Cinelerra supported file formats'
>
> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/wiki/doku.php?id=english_manual:cinelerra_cv_en_5
>
> Cinelerra's preferred uncompressed format is yuv2 video (8bit
> packed YUV 4:2:2) and pcm audio in a QuickTime? container, the following
> command line should render practically any video file into something
> that can be opened and edited in Cinelerra:
> http://code.goto10.org/projects/puredyne/wiki/DocVideo-cinelerra-codecs
>
>
> Rgds,
> Terje J. Hanssen
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] blackmagic design hardware suppor for linux toos

[Daniel Jircik]

This is huge. I tried to cajole the Linux Driver Project (
http://linuxdriverproject.org/twiki/bin/view ) into taking that under their
wing last year and BlackMagic said they had no plans to support Linux and
were according to those that made inquiries a bit hostile.  I wonder what
changed their minds.

On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Aaron Newcomb  wrote:

> I talked with Blackmagic about Linux support for the Intensity card
> when it first came out. They said that if there was enough interest
> they would do it. I guess that they were sick of us bugging them :)
>
> Also, I worked with one of the FFMPEG developers to get the format of
> the Intensity card output supported. So it should already be in there.
> You get really nice looking video with it.
>
> On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Herman Robak 
> wrote:
> > On Mon, 20 Apr 2009 20:33:27 +0200, marquitux caballero <
> anubi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> This is the e-mail we´all resellers get from Blackmagic Design, I hope
> the comunity can see this as an oportunity (Matrox SDK for linux release had
> been ignored by the comunity before) to get real professional tools to work
> in production environments.
> >> cheers,Marcos Caballero
> >> http://www.anubis4d.com.ar  Hi, It's NAB time again, and I have a quick
> update with all our latest news!
> >
> > ...s-n-i-p-!...
> >
> > A little shorter about the news we might be interested in:
> > http://www.blackmagic-design.com/press/detail.asp?pressID=162
> >
> > Blackmagic promises Linux drivers for some of their products,
> > in June.  The most interesting, IMO, is the HDMI capture card.
> > Not too pricey, and relevant to _many_ consumer grade HiDef
> > video cameras.
> >
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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra won't stop play once started

[Daniel Jircik]

Another little quirk
If starting a new project, load your first piece of video as "create new
resources" and save as yourprojectname.xml Then make your clip or drag it
onto the timeline.
That seemed to resolve the endless loop cycle for me. Also only load one
file at a time as create new resources. It always causes me problems when
loading multiple large files.
Daniel

On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 11:35 PM, Claude Jones <
cjonesli...@tehogeeservices.com> wrote:

> On Mon April 6 2009, Daniel Jircik wrote:
> > Is the famous alsa playback problem? If you upgraded or removed ~.bcast
> > maybe it reset to defaul settings. Try: Preferances > Playback > Audio
> > Driver = ALSA check tab Stop playback locks up
> >
> Yup, I'd forgotten the setings for that one, but your suggestion has
> largely cured things - there's still some weirdness, such as every other
> time I open Cinelerra and then load my little project, the curso gains a
> little spinning thing around it and the program is mostly unresponsive -
> this will go on for a very long time - I timed it to over ten minutes
> once... If I restart, it will mostly just load normally. Sometimes the
> spinning thing will appear two or three times in a row...
>
>
> > I've also had other weird playback problems and worked around running as
> > root a few times.
> Hope I can avoid that solution...
>
>
> --
> Claude Jones
> Brunswick, MD, USA
>

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra won't stop play once started

[Daniel Jircik]

Is the famous alsa playback problem? If you upgraded or removed ~.bcast
maybe it reset to defaul settings. Try:
Preferances > Playback > Audio Driver = ALSA check tab Stop playback locks
up

I've also had other weird playback problems and worked around running as
root a few times.

ciao
Daniel


On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 8:34 PM, Claude Jones <
cjonesli...@tehogeeservices.com> wrote:

> Whether I start playing a clip in the trim, compositor, or timeline
> windows, once play starts, I can't stop it. The playhead, if that's the
> right term, just advances and andvances right through all the clips and on
> into black - if I hit the stop key, the video will stop playing and freeze
> wherever it is, but the playhead just keeps advancing. At that poing, I
> can't access any menu items and I have to force Cinelerra to stop from a
> terminal prompt. I feel like I must have done something, but I can't figure
> out what. It was working fine for most of Sunday, and suddenly started
> exhibiting this behavior. This is a checkout from git from about a week ago
> compiled and running on Fedora 10. It worked quite well before this
> happenned. I was editing clips from a Nikon D90 DSLR camera without any
> issues. I was able to import the clips right into Cinelerra and start
> editing them without any conversions and then export a finished clip in ogg.
> Does any one know what I might have done to cause this behavior?
> --
> Claude Jones
> Brunswick, MD, USA
>

Re: [CinCV] best Cinelerra OS?

[Daniel Jircik]

I'm partial to debian. I made a script to simplify things on a net install.
Check it out.
http://reggaecobras.com/linuxvideo/
Installs everything from studio64, debian multimedia , ubuntu studio. Takes
forever (6 + hrs) but it works. Cinelerra included.
64 bit only.

On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 11:46 PM, E Chalaron  wrote:

>  I use Open Suse 11 and 11.1 for that. No bug to report, works fine all the
> time
> Cheers
> E
>
>
> David Morse wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 30, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Jeff Gerritsen wrote:
>>
>>
>> 1. Build a new linux box, load a 64 bit operating system distro.
>> 2. Dedicate this box only to cinelerra and run the 64 bit version.
>> 3. This means to compile the latest version from svn.
>> 4. Optimize this box for Cinelerra only.  That is only install the
>> needed operating system and features that cinelerra needs.  No more no
>> less.
>
>
> That seems like the way to go to me. Given what you get with cinelerra, it
> doesn't seem outrageous to reserve an entire OS install for it. The trick is
> to pick the OS that everyone else (especially the devs) are using, so that
> you can submit bug reports that are easy for them to reproduce.
>
> What is the best OS to run on then?
>
>
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] my incompetence or buggy as hell?

[Daniel Jircik]

Could you be more specific?

What OS and machine architecture are you using?
Built from Source or Binary?
What format are you trying to work with?
And what kind of problems are you having?

On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 8:27 PM, David Morse  wrote:

> Hey,
> Straight up, tell me which is true:
> A) Cinelerra is extremely buggy.
> B) Yours truly is incompetent.
>
> I've just seen so much stuff that I can't imagine is "my" fault. On
> the other hand, there are so many unknowns that /could/ be my fault.
> Sorry, I normally would not ask such a 'flamebait' question on this
> list, but I don't know any more experienced cinelerra users, and I
> just need to know the answer.
>
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Re: [CinCV] (no subject)

[Daniel Jircik]

A few things to check that have caused similar hangs for me.

1) Settings > Format : is set correctly for HDV  Thats 1080 x 1440 at 16:9
aspect ratio YUV 8bit
2) Settings > Preferances > Playback : Use ALSA audio driver and check tab
"Stops Playback Locks Up"
3) When loading large clips, use Create new resources only and load onto
timeline from viewer as opposed to "Replace Existing Project"
4) Try starting and running as root.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 8:24 AM, jpff  wrote:

> I cannot get anything out of Cinelerra.  I use the menu ti load a
> file, which it says it is doing -- a progress bar appears. and then
> when 100% reached it just stops with a rotating wheel, for HOURS, but
> nothing else.
>
> Files are from a JVC HD camera, long.  Format is .m2t and I have
> loaded a small clip but not the substantive ones.  Is cinelerra
> supposed to handle longish (20min) sections?
>
> I did use strace and it seemed to be calling
> futex(0xb2d024, FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE, 1, NULL
>
> Sorry if this is not clear -- this is my first ever attempt at
> video.
>
> ==John ffitch
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] xml into .avi or .mov

[Daniel Jircik]

The .xml file is your edit decision list used internally by cinelerra to
remember your edit. It's not the final output. You need to render the file
to your desired output format.
ciao
Daniel

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Thiago Guagliardo Klohn <
thiago_kl...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> I'd like to know if it's possible to take a '.xml' video that I have edited
> and save it in '.avi' or '.mov' simply by using the key "save as". I have
> Cinelerra manual and there it says that before saving a video if I don't
> choose an extension, it'll automatically save as '.xml', but as matter of
> fact, it doesn't really matter if I choose an extension on my own, it still
> saving everything as '.xml'. For example:
>
>
>  I have a video, let supose, called "birds1.mov". Then I edit it and after
> I go to the "save as" key and type on the top window "bird1.mov" - because I
> want to save it as '.mov'. But then, after clicking ok, it shows up as saved
> as "bird1.mov.xml". Why? How can have it the way I want? Is it a bug or a
> problem because I'm a Kubuntu 7.10 user?
>
>
> **
>
>

Re: [CinCV] Question - Cinelerra CV

[Daniel Jircik]

Steep learning curve but check  out http://www.veejayhq.net/
ciao
Daniel
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 8:43 PM, Scott Serr  wrote:

> Laura Winston wrote:
>
>> **Hello,
>>
>> I'm unable to work out from your website whether *Cinelerra CV* is able to
>> do all these:
>>
>>* capture video from 2 live camcorders via firewire / DV feed.
>>* render the 2 camera feeds into a single image with a horizontal
>>  split on the screen.
>>* the recording needs to happen in real time on the pc.
>>* allow recording straight onto HDD of the laptop
>>
>> Is your product suitable for all the above?
>>
>> If not, can you suggest an alternate product that may be suitable?
>>
>
> Laura, I'd look at video security applications on Linux.  About 8 years ago
> Linux Journal had an article on DIY security video camera system for a
> daycare center.
>
> Maybe
> http://www.zoneminder.com/
>
> I suspect they keep the feeds/streams separate.  I know the multi-camera
> acquisition boards put many analog feeds into one stream, but that won't
> help with your digital and laptop needs.  There probably is a hardware
> solution out there - and then it'd just be dv_grab I guess.
>
>
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] bluray Discs

[Daniel Jircik]

Failed here to,
Debian Testing, Error on make

/usr/include/unistd.h:313: note: candidates are: __off64_t lseek64(int,
__off64_t, int)
mkudfiso.cpp:24: note: long long int lseek64(int, long long
int, int)
mkudfiso.cpp:1438: error: call of overloaded 'lseek64(int&, int, int)' is
ambiguous
/usr/include/unistd.h:313: note: candidates are: __off64_t lseek64(int,
__off64_t, int)
mkudfiso.cpp:24: note: long long int lseek64(int, long long
int, int)
mkudfiso.cpp:1444: error: 'exit' was not declared in this scope
mkudfiso.cpp:1482: error: 'exit' was not declared in this scope
make[1]: *** [mkudfiso.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/Desktop/mkudfiso/src'
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
dan...@debian:~/Desktop/mkudfiso$


On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 7:32 PM, E Chalaron  wrote:

>  Unfortunately I can not compile it 
> Anybody a go at it ?
> Kurt you are on Suse as well if I remember ... ;-)
> Cheers
> E
>
>
>
> E Chalaron wrote:
>
> Ho cool  Thanks a lot for that !
> I don't know how I missed it ..
> Cheers
> E
>
> Michaela Frühstück wrote:
>
>
>  Hi,
> you could try 
> thishttp://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Video/Blu-ray-video-authoring-tools-28112.shtml
> Michaela
>
>
>
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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra installation!

[Daniel Jircik]

Are you using debian stable (etch) or testing (lenny) If you are trying to
install from debian-multimedia repositories only testing works.
http://debian-multimedia.org
Daniel

On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 8:12 PM, Rodolfo Medina wrote:

> I don't manage to install Cinelerra in my Debian system.  I tried to edit
> my sources.list in many ways as suggested at:
>
>  http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php
>
> , but there are always broken and unmet dependencies.
>
> Please any help from this list.
>
> Thanks
> Rodolfo
>
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Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra 4 complation

[Daniel Jircik]

I have the exact same error and I am unable to resolve it myself. If you are
using Ubuntu of Debian  the binary package from heroinewarrior seems to
work.

On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Stephane wrote:

> Hello everyboby,
>
> I have a big problem with my attemp to compil cinellera 4 (from heroine
> warrior sources).
> Configure seems to be ok : no problem
> Then Itype "make" : th compilation starts and fails with this :
>
> codec_plugin.h:1277: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type
> conversion before ')' token
> codec_plugin.h:1279: error: expected unqualified-id before '<' token
> codec_plugin.h:1279: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type
> conversion before '&' token
> codec_plugin.h:1279: error: expected unqualified-id before '<' token
> codec_plugin.h:1319: error: expected unqualified-id before '<' token
> codec_plugin.h:1321: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type
> conversion before ';' token
> codec_plugin.h:1321: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type
> conversion before ';' token
> codec_plugin.h:1321: error: expected unqualified-id before '<' token
> codec_plugin.h:1323: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type
> conversion before ';' token
> codec_plugin.h:1323: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type
> conversion before ';' token
> codec_plugin.h:1323: error: expected unqualified-id before '<' token
> faad2.h:63: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion
> before ';' token
> faad2.h:70: error: variable or field 'aac_close' declared void
> faad2.h:70: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:70: error: 'ptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:73: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion
> before '*' token
> faad2.h:82: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:82: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:83: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token
> faad2.h:84: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token
> faad2.h:84: error: 'ts' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:84: error: initializer expression list treated as compound
> expression
> faad2.h:85: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:85: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:87: error: variable or field 'aac_file_used_for_frame' declared
> void
> faad2.h:87: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:87: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:88: error: expected primary-expression before 'bytes'
> faad2.h:88: error: initializer expression list treated as compound
> expression
> faad2.h:90: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:90: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.h:91: error: expected primary-expression before 'ts'
> faad2.h:91: error: initializer expression list treated as compound
> expression
> ./mpeg4_sdp.h:50: error: 'lib_message_func_t' has not been declared
> ./mpeg4_sdp.h:51: error: 'lib_message_func_t' has not been declared
> faad2.cpp:38: error: expected initializer before '*' token
> faad2.cpp:119: error: variable or field 'aac_close' declared void
> faad2.cpp:119: error: redefinition of 'int aac_close'
> faad2.h:70: error: 'int aac_close' previously defined here
> faad2.cpp:119: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.cpp:119: error: 'ptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.cpp:137: error: variable or field 'aac_do_pause' declared void
> faad2.cpp:137: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.cpp:137: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.cpp:138: error: expected ',' or ';' before '{' token
> faad2.cpp:150: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.cpp:150: error: 'ptr' was not declared in this scope
> faad2.cpp:151: error: expected primary-expression before 'ts'
> faad2.cpp:152: error: expected primary-expression before 'int'
> faad2.cpp:153: error: expected primary-expression before 'int'
> faad2.cpp:154: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token
> faad2.cpp:155: error: expected primary-expression before 'buflen'
> faad2.cpp:156: error: expected primary-expression before 'void'
> faad2.cpp:156: error: initializer expression list treated as compound
> expression
> faad2.cpp:157: error: expected ',' or ';' before '{' token
> faad2.cpp:287: error: 'format_list_t' has not been declared
> faad2.cpp: In function 'int aac_codec_check(void (*)(int, const char*,
> const char*, ...), const char*, int, int, int*, const uint8_t*, uint32_t)':
> faad2.cpp:310: error: request for member 'rtpmap' in '* fptr', which is of
> non-class type 'int'
> faad2.cpp:311: error: request for member 'rtpmap' in '* fptr', which is of
> non-class type 'int'
> faad2.cpp:312: error: request for member 'rtpmap' in '* fptr', which is of
> non-class type 'int'
> faad2.cpp:316: error: request for member 'fmt_param' in '* fptr', which is
> of non-class type 'int'
> ./m

Re: [CinCV] www.linuxvideo.org (?) to bring the world of linuxvideo together....!!?!

[Daniel Jircik]

I was going to post this to the cinelerra list but it's prescient to this
conversation, I just finished a Debian post install script to simplify
system configuration for content creation. Not quite ready for primetime but
it works.:-)
http://reggaecobras.com/linuxvideo/
ciao
Daniel

On Sun, Dec 7, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Germán Andrés Schwartz <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Sorry guys for my intromision but I want to say some general answer for
> that kind of questions what are asking this guy.
>
> Yes there are a lot of applications but you can choose just a few for work
> and that is all.
> If you want to do a lot of different kind of works you need a lot of
> different applications too. But if you do some specific work you need some
> specific applications only.
> Try all what you want first, and later choose only a few that do all what
> you need.
>
> For example I edit video with Cinelerra. Export the edited video in two
> separate files: Video only in avi MJPEG, and Audio only in PCM WAV.
> Next I open that both with avidemux2 and encode with it.
> That is all, I have a finished video.
> Next if I want it in a DVD I use QDVDAuthor.
>
> That steps let me more flexibility.
>
> If you don't want to use avidemux2 (because you always want your videos
> encoded in only one kind of encoder) you just can create your own script
> that run ffmpeg, mencoder, or mpeg2enc, whathever you want to use to
> convert it automatically.
> The same for DVD if you only want one kind of DVD style you don't need
> QDVDAuthor to edit it one and one more time, you just can create one script
> that do it all using dvdauthor only.
>
> When you are ready with that you can forget about using a lot of
> applications, you only need to export your video/audio and run two scripts.
>
> That is not the most flexible (and perfect) solution but let you do the
> work and don't make you lost time using a lot of applications.
>
> Bye.
>
>
> On Sun, 07 Dec 2008 22:15:05 +0100, Ichthyostega <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > schoappied schrieb:
> >> In this week I did my first video project on Linux. And besides the fact
> >> that
> >>  there are a lot of possibilities and changes for linux video, there is
> >>  still
> >>  a long way to go imho.
> >
> >> I used for about 5 different apps to get something done (e.g.
> synchronize
> >>
> >> video and sound and get it on a dvd). I had to face apps who couldn't
> >> deal
> >> with certain files formats and apps which contains a lot of bugs, some
> >> come
> >> abroad after 5 hours work...
> >
> > you aren't alone!
> >
> >> Other apps where quite difficult to use, especially the powerful but
> >> difficult commandline apps.
> >
> >
> > Hi schoappied,
> >
> > yes, indeed, that sounds like a good proposal. Video handling on Linux
> > really could benefit from "one central place" to watch. And, probably,
> > this central place should not be tied to one of the applications or
> > developer camps.
> >
> >> I don't have much experience with video editing on Linux. But I read a
> >> couple
> >>  of articles about it last week and it seems that linux video is not as
> >>  good
> >> as it should be... especially not for newbies.
> >
> > Regarding developers, Richard Spindler started a mailing list called
> > "openvideo" and did a terrific job to bring together many of the core
> > developers of the various projects. Indeed, the situation has much
> changed
> > when compared to 2 or three years ago. We developers realized, there
> won't
> > be just one application, but we all share the same common problems and
> can
> > collaborate on the level of exchanging ideas, solution approaches or even
> > library solutions. But, I think I'll be speaking for many developers when
> > saying that my feeling is we have still some way to go and some hard work
> > to do in order to reach such a level of integration which could be titled
> > as "the next step for video on linux"
> >
> >> I think linux audio was in the same situation some years ago. I do work
> >> with
> >> linux audio, so I know that situation better. They  started a consortium
> >> for
> >> linux audio users, developers etc. check www.linuxaudio.org
> >
> > Well, I think, having something comparable for video would be a good
> thing.
> > But it probably can't be initiated by the developers of a specific
> > application.
> > They are too much focussed on the technical problems (which are
> > exceptionally
> > challenging especially for video). And, moreover, I wouldn't be surprised
> > if
> > we see the formation of several "camps" in the near future, for example
> the
> > "ffmpegers", the "gstreamers", the "gmerliners" -- well, I am just just
> > conjecturing here!
> >
> > So bottom line is: I think such an initiative should be started from the
> > user's
> > side, i.e. by advanced, interested and open minded users. I wouldn't
> expect
> > the
> > developers to start such a site. We have more then enough 

Re: [CinCV] can't install from 386 repo (Valentina Messeri) on lenny

[Daniel Jircik]

Forgot to mention that heroines cinelerra-4 ubuntu package runs fine on
lenny
http://heroinewarrior.com
On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 10:01 PM, Daniel Jircik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If you were trying to install cinelerra on etch it won't work. Debian
> multimedia only supports testing (lenny ) for cinelerra. Console shows this
> version to be 2.1cv compliled 07/06/08 same as yours. So is the version from
> debinan-multimedia working for you or it locks up as well?
>
> I had unresponsive issues from a cv source build which I worked around by
> running as root.
>
> On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:54 PM, B. Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Daniel,
>>
>> 1. As for the lock-up, I can't even get to settings, the gui is 100%
>> unresponsive. I did some gdb, and this is the result (after Control C to
>> kill the process manually):
>>
>> ^C
>> Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
>> [Switching to Thread 0xb5ab8710 (LWP 18219)]
>> 0xb7f43424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
>> (gdb) bt
>> #0  0xb7f43424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
>> #1  0xb784dba7 in pthread_join () from /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
>> #2  0xb7e40c2b in Thread::join () from /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
>> #3  0xb7dea1c6 in BC_Clipboard::stop_clipboard () from
>> /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
>> #4  0xb7e2fc51 in BC_WindowBase::~BC_WindowBase () from
>> /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
>> #5  0xb7e27718 in BC_Window::~BC_Window () from /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
>> #6  0x082c3af7 in SplashGUI::~SplashGUI ()
>> #7  0x08229889 in MWindow::hide_splash ()
>> #8  0x0822f682 in MWindow::create_objects ()
>> #9  0x082040c9 in main ()
>>
>> 2. I removed the unofficial repos for cinelerra from my soures.list and
>> installed from debian-multimedia. Seems that debian-multimedia has the
>> same version as I had installed from Valentina's 32bit repo:
>> 2.1.0~svn20080706-0.0
>>
>> What version do you have installed Daniel? I just updated my lenny
>> yesterday, how about you?
>>
>> Thanks for the help.
>>
>> B. Bogart
>>
>> > On your lock up problem, check Settings>Preferances > Playback and
>> select
>> > Audio Driver = Alsa
>> > Underneath that check the tab "Stop playback locks up"
>> > Under Video Out uncheck "Play Every Frame"
>> >
>> > I'm using the build from http://debian-multimedia.org and that resolved
>> the
>> > same error you were having it's a bit older (2007) but works fine. I
>> have a
>> > script to install the whole deb multimedia repo if interested.
>> > ciao
>> > Daniel
>>
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>

Re: [CinCV] can't install from 386 repo (Valentina Messeri) on lenny

[Daniel Jircik]

If you were trying to install cinelerra on etch it won't work. Debian
multimedia only supports testing (lenny ) for cinelerra. Console shows this
version to be 2.1cv compliled 07/06/08 same as yours. So is the version from
debinan-multimedia working for you or it locks up as well?

I had unresponsive issues from a cv source build which I worked around by
running as root.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 5:54 PM, B. Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks Daniel,
>
> 1. As for the lock-up, I can't even get to settings, the gui is 100%
> unresponsive. I did some gdb, and this is the result (after Control C to
> kill the process manually):
>
> ^C
> Program received signal SIGINT, Interrupt.
> [Switching to Thread 0xb5ab8710 (LWP 18219)]
> 0xb7f43424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
> (gdb) bt
> #0  0xb7f43424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
> #1  0xb784dba7 in pthread_join () from /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0
> #2  0xb7e40c2b in Thread::join () from /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
> #3  0xb7dea1c6 in BC_Clipboard::stop_clipboard () from
> /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
> #4  0xb7e2fc51 in BC_WindowBase::~BC_WindowBase () from
> /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
> #5  0xb7e27718 in BC_Window::~BC_Window () from /usr/lib/libguicast.so.1
> #6  0x082c3af7 in SplashGUI::~SplashGUI ()
> #7  0x08229889 in MWindow::hide_splash ()
> #8  0x0822f682 in MWindow::create_objects ()
> #9  0x082040c9 in main ()
>
> 2. I removed the unofficial repos for cinelerra from my soures.list and
> installed from debian-multimedia. Seems that debian-multimedia has the
> same version as I had installed from Valentina's 32bit repo:
> 2.1.0~svn20080706-0.0
>
> What version do you have installed Daniel? I just updated my lenny
> yesterday, how about you?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> B. Bogart
>
> > On your lock up problem, check Settings>Preferances > Playback and select
> > Audio Driver = Alsa
> > Underneath that check the tab "Stop playback locks up"
> > Under Video Out uncheck "Play Every Frame"
> >
> > I'm using the build from http://debian-multimedia.org and that resolved
> the
> > same error you were having it's a bit older (2007) but works fine. I have
> a
> > script to install the whole deb multimedia repo if interested.
> > ciao
> > Daniel
>
>
> ___
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> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
>

Re: [CinCV] [off] Firewire port fried

[Daniel Jircik]

Have you looked at whether the card has internal/external 12v jumpers? I
have an old vt603 based board and the  purpose is to enable the card to
power the device. I've never had the problem you describe but that seems
like a likely culprit. I allways leave the option off.
Daniel

On Thu, Nov 27, 2008 at 12:48 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Odin Omdal Hørthe pravi:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 12:04 AM, Stefan de Konink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>>
 do you experience similar problems?how do you protect your cams from
 getting fried?

>>> Actually the other way around; one of my teachers in his research project
>>> fried 5+ firewire cards. I guess it is just bad grounding.
>>>
>>
>> I fried my old Sony DCR TRV900e using Linux. It's too bad. I was going
>> to use it as a very expensive and good webcam. :-/
>>
>>  thx for the answers
>
> but i'm trying to understand how does this happen? I was told i'm not
> supposed to hotplug firewire devices (even tough FW is hotplugable). but the
> last camera died while capturing with kino - so its not hot plugging. Some
> people tell me that i have bad hardware (FW card, mobo or PSU), then others
> tell me that the power line might be bad (and some other say that power line
> should have no effect on the cam if it runs from a battery and the only
> contact with power line is the computer).
> where might be my source of problems?
>
>
> ___
> Cinelerra mailing list
> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
>

Re: [CinCV] can't install from 386 repo (Valentina Messeri) on lenny

[Daniel Jircik]

On your lock up problem, check Settings>Preferances > Playback and select
Audio Driver = Alsa
Underneath that check the tab "Stop playback locks up"
Under Video Out uncheck "Play Every Frame"

I'm using the build from http://debian-multimedia.org and that resolved the
same error you were having it's a bit older (2007) but works fine. I have a
script to install the whole deb multimedia repo if interested.
ciao
Daniel

On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 6:37 PM, B. Bogart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hey all,
>
> I have not used cinelerra much (maybe not since my upgrade from etch to
> lenny) and upon opening it it appears to freeze.
>
> all the gui elements load, except for the projector? window (the viewer
> on the right) and the gui is locked (no response).
>
> I see no errors in the console:
>
> Cinelerra 2.1CV (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
> Compiled on dimanche 6 juillet 2008, 19:01:47 (UTC+0200)
>
> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
>
> when I kill the process I get:
>
> signal_entry: got SIGINT my pid=22531 execution table size=16:
>mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 217
>mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 228
>mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 232
>mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 236
>mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 240
>mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 247
>mwindowgui.C: create_objects: 250
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1317
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1326
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1332
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1336
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1338
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1340
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1342
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1344
>mwindow.C: create_objects: 1351
> signal_entry: lock table size=6
>0x8f76228 CWindowTool::input_lock CWindowTool::run
>0x8f9a5e0 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
>0x903dd00 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
>0x903e290 MainIndexes::input_lock MainIndexes::run 1
>0x90a7d30 ResourceThread::draw_lock ResourceThread::run
>0x90d72d8 BC_Repeater::repeat_lock BC_Repeater::run
> BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0
> BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files
> SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0
> Aborted
>
> I'm using cinelerra 2.1.0~svn20080706-0.0 from this repo:
>
> http://giss.tv/~vale/debian64 
>
> Though I am NOT using a 64 bit kernel.
>
> So I changed to this repo:
>
> http://giss.tv/~vale/debian32 
>
> Thanks Valentina Messeri.
>
> Unfortunately I am unable to install due to package conflicts:
>
> $ sudo apt-get install cinelerra
> Reading package lists... Done
> Building dependency tree
> Reading state information... Done
> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer
> required:
>  cinelerra-data
> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
> The following extra packages will be installed:
>  libguicast
> The following NEW packages will be installed
>  cinelerra libguicast
> 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 0B/12.5MB of archives.
> After this operation, 26.4MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
> WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
>  libguicast cinelerra
> Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y
> (Reading database ... 205641 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking libguicast (from
> .../libguicast_1%3a2.1.0-2svn20081020.1_i386.deb) ...
> Selecting previously deselected package cinelerra.
> Unpacking cinelerra (from
> .../cinelerra_1%3a2.1.0-2svn20081020.1_i386.deb) ...
> dpkg: error processing
> /var/cache/apt/archives/cinelerra_1%3a2.1.0-2svn20081020.1_i386.deb
> (--unpack):
>  trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/cinelerra/fonts/palai.ttf', which is also
> in package cinelerra-data
> dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe)
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  /var/cache/apt/archives/cinelerra_1%3a2.1.0-2svn20081020.1_i386.deb
> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
>
> Seems all of Andraz Tori's repos require sid and don't work on lenny:
>
>  cinelerra: Depends: liblame0 (>= 3.97) but it is not installable
> Depends: libopenexr2ldbl (>= 1.2.2) but it is not installable
> Depends: libquicktimehv (>= 1:2.1.0) but it is not going to
> be installed
> Depends: libquicktimehv (= 1:2.1.0-2svn20071030) but it is
> not going to be installed
> Depends: libmpeg3hv (= 1:2.1.0-2svn20071030) but
> 1:2.1.0-2svn20081020.1 is to be installed
>
> I tried changing my debian-multimedia to sid, but I get the same errors
> above.
>
> What is the best way to install cinelerra from repo on lenny?
>
> Thanks,
> B. Bogart
>
> ___
> Cinelerra mailing l

Re: [CinCV] Unmet dependencies Debian Etch

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi Flavio
I had reached the same conclusion that it breaks at Marillat. I'm using the
repos from 64Studio. I,m merging your lists with the previously mentioned
removing doubles and my world should be good ! I can't code my way out of a
paper bag but my script works great so far, found a install flash for amd64
that autosolved solved some  issues I was having as well. I'm going to base
it on a full debian disk install (etch) as minimal net inst is missing to
many things.

The heroines cinelerra-4 Ubuntu binary runs fine on Ubuntu Studio haven't
tried etch yet. Has anyone had any luck with hdv capture and cinelerra4?
Transport works and I get a 16:9 green screen with audio. Locks program when
trying to kill. Sony hdr-hc3 . No combo of formats or drivers yeild results
here.

ciao
Daniel

On Mon, Nov 10, 2008 at 2:15 AM, flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> So, people got confused.
>
> Tutorial:
>
> 1. Do a basic debian etch install;
>
> 2. Then, use the sources.list I sent (it is the basic list, plus marillat)
> - do not mix any other repos, in any circumstances for a stable debian
> machine.
>
> 3. Open synaptic, open the synaptic file I sent, install all those files
> already marked - gcc is probably in that list. This list was made mainly as
> a save-timer, so you won't have to write or mark everything over and over
> again. In case, however, that there is any basic program that's missing for
> compiling, it will be accused at the ./configure step. I mention this
> because I created two different synaptic files - one previous to cin4
> compiling (the file I sent) and another with all the things needed (the
> tutorial I sent pasted on the mail).
>
> 4. There you have, a full on debian, ready to install a cinelerra version!
> Now:
>
> a: install older cin-cv version, from 2007, which works perfectly
> with all these things and you can do professional work with close deadlines
> without any worry; I've used it hundreds and hundreds of times and it is
> smooth man;
>
> ...b: follow the tutorial I had send previously, under the same subject
> message, to compile cinelerra4, which I have managed to install but not to
> test. I am still learning how to create a debian package out of it - when I
> do, it should be installed for tests on my machine.
>
> Once finished, my advice is to remove Marillat's repo from the sources.list
> and be sort of careful when updating. I usually use extremelly stable
> machines to work, not to test. It is a conservative approach that has worked
> for me. Some people may criticise me for this - here in Brazil, people who
> do it do not edit longer or more complex videos, so... For testing I usually
> have another partition and I've been disappointed over and over again with
> Ubuntu systems for video (I mean the whole chainline, not just editing).
> Once you finally get it working, there they go, update everything and things
> screw up again...
>
> That's mainly it. But don't trust me, see what's best for your case.
>
> good luck again,
> flavio
>

Re: [CinCV] Unmet dependencies Debian Etch

[Daniel Jircik]

My goal is to generate a post Debian install script to automate multiple
installs, based on
AttistX , Ubuntu Studio, and 64Studio. See attached list.  I'm doing a
system build for a project starting next month consisting of 6 machines. 3
for renderfarm and 3 for field production.  All Quad Core AMD phenom.

I've abandoned trying to work with a debian net install as to much stuff is
missing with glib gtk in particular as encountered doing other things.  I'm
really at a loss with respect to getting a working /etc/apt/sources.list for
cinelerra. Something is broken in the dependancy tree in relation to
debian-multimedia. I'm trying Ubuntu Studio now and this is still
unresolved. apt-cache search yeilds no usable results for all.

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  cinelerra: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.16) but 1.0.15-3ubuntu4 is to be
installed
 Depends: libopenexr6 (>= 1.6.1) but it is not installable
 Depends: libquicktimehv (= 1:2.1.0-2svn20081020.1) but it is
not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/src$

Cinelerra-4 Build make error:
(Same as Debian Net Inst)

_sub22_mests.c -o build_sub22_mests.o
gcc: Your: No such file or directory
gcc: does: No such file or directory
gcc: not: No such file or directory
gcc: even: No such file or directory
gcc: support: No such file or directory
gcc: i386: No such file or directory
gcc: for: No such file or directory
gcc: and: No such file or directory
cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-march"
cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mtune."
make[3]: *** [build_sub22_mests.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/cin4/cinelerra-4/thirdparty/mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3/utils/mmxsse'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/cin4/cinelerra-4/thirdparty/mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3/utils'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/cin4/cinelerra-4'
make: *** [all] Error 2


Configure Error Cinelerra-CV git current

Summary of mandatory components:
  libogg  missing
  libvorbis   missing
  libvorbisencmissing
  libvorbisfile   missing
  libtheora   missing
  OpenEXR missing
  libdv   missing
  libpng  found
  libjpeg libraries   found
  libjpeg headers found
  libtiff libraries   missing
  libtiff headers missing
  FreeType 2  missing
  libx264 libraries   missing
  libx264 headers missing
  libuuid libraries   missing
  libuuid headers missing
  mjpegtools  missing
  libfftw3 libraries  missing
  libfftw3 headersmissing
  liba52 librariesfound
  liba52 headers  found
  libmp3lame librariesmissing
  libmp3lame headers  missing
  libsndfile librariesmissing
  libsndfile headers  missing
  libfaac libraries   missing
  libfaac headers missing
  libfaad libraries   missing
  libfaad headers missing

Summary of optional components:
  ESD subsystem   missing
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is disabled
  ALSA subsystem  found
ALSA is enabled
  libraw1394  missing
  libiec61883 missing
  libavc1394 librariesfound
  libavc1394 headers  missing
  librom1394 librariesfound
  librom1394 headers  missing
Firewire is disabled
  OpenGL 2.0 librariesfound
Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is enabled

WARNING: Mandatory components are missing; compilation may fail!




On the bright side the Ubuntu Binary from heroines works. Building from
source yeilds the same build error as previously posted on this thread.

On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:24 AM, Valentina Messeri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Quoting flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>  Yeah. Here it was very very fine, but it has to be mentioned that I have
>> some things installed. My synaptic list goes annexed with its relative
>> sources.list,
>>
>
> :d gcc is not a case of a packet only present in some special repositories.
>
>  so you may have a look (the other stuff are those in the
>> tutorial I sent you).
>>
>
> Where is this tutorial? maybe i can check if some other basic tool is
> missed (in order to avoid people gettin crazy)
>
> baci!
> vale
>
>
>
>
>> good luck,
>> flavio
>>
>> 2008/11/7 Valentina Messeri <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>
>>  :d you miss lots of libraries, and even the (compiler) gcc.
>>>
>>> you better have a look here:
>>>
>>>  http://cinelerra.org/docs/cinelerra_cv_manual_en.html#SEC11
>>>
>>> in order to compile cinelerra from Git.
>>> While heroinewarrior version can be slightly difficult to build
>>>
>>> :) maybe you should install packages...
>>>
>>> abçs
>>> Vale
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks flavio
>>>
 That got me farther than I've gotten before trying to build cinelerra-4
 make
 error:

 used -MT build_sub22_mests.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/build_sub22_mests.

Re: [CinCV] Unmet dependencies Debian Etch

[Daniel Jircik]

I resolved unmet dependancies with http://64studio.com/

import key:

wget -q -O - 
http://trac.64studio.com/64studio/browser/64studio/trunk/apt/key?format=raw|apt-key
add -

add to /etc/apt/sources.list

deb http://apt.64studio.com/backports/ etch-backports main
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ etch main

didn't solve source build issues but at least I'm up and running. Any tips
on building cinelerra 4 I'd like to try it out.
Thanks
Daniel

On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 8:50 PM, Daniel Jircik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks flavio
> That got me farther than I've gotten before trying to build cinelerra-4
> make error:
>
> used -MT build_sub22_mests.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/build_sub22_mests.Tpo -c
> build_sub22_mests.c -o build_sub22_mests.o
> gcc: Your: No such file or directory
> gcc: does: No such file or directory
> gcc: not: No such file or directory
> gcc: even: No such file or directory
> gcc: support: No such file or directory
> gcc: i386: No such file or directory
> gcc: for: No such file or directory
> gcc: and: No such file or directory
> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-march"
> cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mtune."
> make[3]: *** [build_sub22_mests.lo] Error 1
> make[3]: Leaving directory
> `/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4/thirdparty/mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3/utils/mmxsse'
> make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4/thirdparty/mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3/utils'
> make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
> debian:/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4#
>
>
> On building from Git source cinelerra-cv I'm missing a lot looks like
> (failed ./configuration )
>
> Summary of mandatory components:
>   libogg  missing
>   libvorbis   missing
>   libvorbisencmissing
>   libvorbisfile   missing
>   libtheora   missing
>   OpenEXR missing
>   libdv   missing
>   libpng  found
>   libjpeg libraries   missing
>   libjpeg headers missing
>   libtiff libraries   missing
>   libtiff headers missing
>   FreeType 2  missing
>   libx264 libraries   missing
>   libx264 headers missing
>   libuuid libraries   missing
>   libuuid headers missing
>   mjpegtools  missing
>   libfftw3 libraries  missing
>   libfftw3 headersmissing
>   liba52 librariesmissing
>   liba52 headers  missing
>   libmp3lame librariesmissing
>   libmp3lame headers  missing
>   libsndfile librariesmissing
>   libsndfile headers  missing
>   libfaac libraries   missing
>   libfaac headers missing
>   libfaad libraries   missing
>   libfaad headers missing
>
> Summary of optional components:
>   ESD subsystem   missing
> ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is disabled
>   ALSA subsystem  found
> ALSA is enabled
>   libraw1394  missing
>   libiec61883 missing
>   libavc1394 librariesmissing
>   libavc1394 headers  missing
>   librom1394 librariesmissing
>   librom1394 headers  missing
> Firewire is disabled
>   OpenGL 2.0 librariesmissing
> Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is disabled
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> Hi Flavio, that's a bad link? 404
>>>
>>
>> Well, those things always happen. Matter of fact, they happen so much and
>> so often that this time I had copied and pasted the whole content to my
>> inbox! Ha! It goes below - it's in portuguese, but you'll get the commands
>> easily.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Have you seen artistx? A work of art. 32bit live cd but no installer,
>>> anyway after a netinst and the pseudo-script from artist x seen here:
>>>
>>> http://www.artistx.org/site2/documentation/how-to/from-debian-to-artistx.html
>>> I was very pleased with the outcome.  Less cinelerra of course :-(
>>
>>
>> Nope. But taking a glimpse at it, it doesn't seem to be way off the usual
>> we'd install for a video-editing system though... But thanks for sharing.
>>
>> There it goes:
>>
>> ---
>>
>> bôra lá, primeiro as dependências:
>>
>> apt-get install nasm yasm build-essential libglut-dev libpng-dev \
>> pkg-config libxv-dev gettext x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev libxxf86vm-dev \
>

Re: [CinCV] Unmet dependencies Debian Etch

[Daniel Jircik]

Thanks flavio
That got me farther than I've gotten before trying to build cinelerra-4 make
error:

used -MT build_sub22_mests.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/build_sub22_mests.Tpo -c
build_sub22_mests.c -o build_sub22_mests.o
gcc: Your: No such file or directory
gcc: does: No such file or directory
gcc: not: No such file or directory
gcc: even: No such file or directory
gcc: support: No such file or directory
gcc: i386: No such file or directory
gcc: for: No such file or directory
gcc: and: No such file or directory
cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-march"
cc1: error: unrecognized command line option "-mtune."
make[3]: *** [build_sub22_mests.lo] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4/thirdparty/mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3/utils/mmxsse'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4/thirdparty/mjpegtools-1.9.0rc3/utils'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4'
make: *** [all] Error 2
debian:/home/daniel/src/cin4_flavio/cinelerra-4#


On building from Git source cinelerra-cv I'm missing a lot looks like
(failed ./configuration )

Summary of mandatory components:
  libogg  missing
  libvorbis   missing
  libvorbisencmissing
  libvorbisfile   missing
  libtheora   missing
  OpenEXR missing
  libdv   missing
  libpng  found
  libjpeg libraries   missing
  libjpeg headers missing
  libtiff libraries   missing
  libtiff headers missing
  FreeType 2  missing
  libx264 libraries   missing
  libx264 headers missing
  libuuid libraries   missing
  libuuid headers missing
  mjpegtools  missing
  libfftw3 libraries  missing
  libfftw3 headersmissing
  liba52 librariesmissing
  liba52 headers  missing
  libmp3lame librariesmissing
  libmp3lame headers  missing
  libsndfile librariesmissing
  libsndfile headers  missing
  libfaac libraries   missing
  libfaac headers missing
  libfaad libraries   missing
  libfaad headers missing

Summary of optional components:
  ESD subsystem   missing
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is disabled
  ALSA subsystem  found
ALSA is enabled
  libraw1394  missing
  libiec61883 missing
  libavc1394 librariesmissing
  libavc1394 headers  missing
  librom1394 librariesmissing
  librom1394 headers  missing
Firewire is disabled
  OpenGL 2.0 librariesmissing
Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is disabled





On Thu, Nov 6, 2008 at 7:51 PM, flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi Flavio, that's a bad link? 404
>>
>
> Well, those things always happen. Matter of fact, they happen so much and
> so often that this time I had copied and pasted the whole content to my
> inbox! Ha! It goes below - it's in portuguese, but you'll get the commands
> easily.
>
>
>
>> Have you seen artistx? A work of art. 32bit live cd but no installer,
>> anyway after a netinst and the pseudo-script from artist x seen here:
>>
>> http://www.artistx.org/site2/documentation/how-to/from-debian-to-artistx.html
>> I was very pleased with the outcome.  Less cinelerra of course :-(
>
>
> Nope. But taking a glimpse at it, it doesn't seem to be way off the usual
> we'd install for a video-editing system though... But thanks for sharing.
>
> There it goes:
>
> ---
>
> bôra lá, primeiro as dependências:
>
> apt-get install nasm yasm build-essential libglut-dev libpng-dev \
> pkg-config libxv-dev gettext x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev libxxf86vm-dev \
> libpopt-dev texinfo libasound2-dev libbz2-dev
>
> baixar o código-fonte na linha de comando mesmo:
>
>
> **THIS MAY NOT WORK DUE TO THE LINK, SO JUST FETCH CIN4 FROM THE WEB
> INSTEAD OF WGETTING IT...
>
> wget -c http://ufpr.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/heroines/cinelerra
> -4-src.tar.bz2
>
> descompacte:
>
> tar jxvf cinelerra-4-src.tar.bz2
>
> entra na cozinha, verifica se tem os ingredientes, bata tudo e coloque no
> forno:
>
> cd cinelerra-4
> ./configure
> make
> make install
>
> cobertura e recheio:
>
>
> **THIS IS ADDITIONAL STUFF, ONLY THE FIRST TWO ARE OF RELEVANCE.
>
> cp -r bin/ /usr/share/cinelerra
> ln -s /usr/share/cinelerra/cinelerra /usr/local/bin/
> wget -c 'http://banto.hipatia.net/softwarelivre/arquivos/cinelerra.desktop
> '
> wget -c 'http://banto.hipatia.net/softwarelivre/arquivos/cinelerra.xpm'
> mv cinelerra.xpm /usr/share/pixmaps/
> mv cinelerra.desktop /usr/share/applications/
> echo kernel.shmmax=0x7fff >> /etc/sysctl.conf
> sysctl -p
>
> e pronto!
>
>
> -
>
> rock on,
> flavio
>

Re: [CinCV] Unmet dependencies Debian Etch

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi Flavio, that's a bad link? 404
Have you seen artistx? A work of art. 32bit live cd but no installer, anyway
after a netinst and the pseudo-script from artist x seen here:
http://www.artistx.org/site2/documentation/how-to/from-debian-to-artistx.html
I was very pleased with the outcome.  Less cinelerra of course :-(

Daniel



On Wed, Nov 5, 2008 at 7:38 PM, flavio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I also use Debian Etch (pentium4 though). It's been quite some time since I
> could update cin using the cv way, so I've using an older version (from
> october 2007 or so, I guess). I works perfectly and I'm very happy with it,
> so I never bothered trying to work around this issue. Basically, I went to
> the repo and downloaded the .deb for cin and its dependencies and dpkg-ed
> them.
>
> Last month, I also had to do an instalation tutorial, so I installed a
> Debian Etch from zero inside a virtualbox (a debian inside a debian). There,
> I tried to compile cinelerra-4 - the official, from heroine warrior - and
> everything went just fine. I haven't had the time to actually test it
> thoroughly, but in case you may want a link, here it is:
> http://banto.hipatia.net/blog/spip.php?article595
>
> have fun,
> flavio
>

[CinCV] Unmet dependencies Debian Etch

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi
I'm having a time trying to get an apt-get config for cinelerra.  as per
cinelerra.org sources list I'm getting the following un met dependancies.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  cinelerra: Depends: libasound2 (> 1.0.16) but 1.0.13-2 is to be installed
 Depends: libc6 (>= 2.7-1) but 2.3.6.ds1-13etch7 is to be
installed
 Depends: libfftw3-3 but it is not installable
 Depends: libfreetype6 (>= 2.3.5) but 2.2.1-5+etch3 is to be
installed
 Depends: libguicast (= 1:2.1.0-2svn20081020.1) but it is not
going to be installed
 Depends: libilmbase6 but it is not installable
 Depends: libmjpegtools0 (>= 1:1.8.0) but it is not going to be
installed
 Depends: libmpeg3hv (= 1:2.1.0-2svn20081020.1) but it is not
going to be installed
 Depends: libopenexr6 (>= 1.6.1) but it is not installable
 Depends: libquicktimehv (= 1:2.1.0-2svn20081020.1) but it is
not going to be installed
E: Broken packages
debian:/home/daniel/src#

kernel 2.6.18-6-amd64
AMD 64 quad core phenom, Debian etch
I saw some threads about broken debian-multimedia keys but solutions
produced same results.
Any suggestions?
Daniel
Go Obama!

Re: [CinCV] Video Mixer

[Daniel Jircik]

http://www.veejayhq.net/
ciao
Daniel

On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 11:14 AM, Stefan de Konink <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Bhikkhu Mettavihari wrote:
>
>> Is there anyone here who could advice me of a similar Solution using
>> Linux.
>> Or even give me an other solution for 2 low cost mixers.
>>
>
> http://alioth.debian.org/projects/dvswitch/
>
> If there is something else available let me know :)
>
>
> Stefan
>
>
> ___
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> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
>

Re: [CinCV] Long video inputs: What format will Cinelerra take well?

[Daniel Jircik]

Are you using dvgrab for your original dv footage? If so my recomendation
would be to use the quicktime option which has worked well for me in the
past without any sync issues.
dvgrab --format qt
That creates a .mov file that cinelerra has no problems with. Use the viewer
to create you clips from raw footage as normal. Hope that helps.
Daniel

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:27 AM, Martin Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Can you chop it up into smaller clips?
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> Martin
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> IT: http://methodsupport.com Personal: http://thereisnoend.org
>

Re: [CinCV] Realtime or Low Latency Ker-what? - help in choosing a distro

[Daniel Jircik]

For a video nle it's not that important, For audio production there are
definate advantages. Sometimes rt kernels don't play nice with nvidia
drivers I've heard.. Look at
http://64studio.com/
Daniel

On Wed, Sep 3, 2008 at 4:25 PM, Cory K. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> leandro ribeiro wrote:
> > Hi there!
> >
> > When I switched to Linux I dedicated myself a little bit to knowing
> > the OS. At the present moment, I just want to use it to get some work
> > done and stop tweeking with config files. I was installing Linux Mint
> > in my wife's computer (she still lived in a Windows box) and kind of
> > fell in love with it: it's easy, clean and out-of-the-box functional.
> > OpenSuse 11.0 is a bit over the top and was getting me tired, so I
> > thought I would change myself to Linux Mint also.
> >
> > But then I read a forum about Linux Mint not having a Realtime or Low
> > Latency kernel, and that such thing would be of interest to any
> > video/audio editor. It seams Ubuntu Studio comes compiled with such
> > kernel.
> >
> > So my questions are: is Linux Mint a bad choice to run Cinelerra (and
> > other video editing software)? Is Ubuntu Studio a good choice? What on
> > earth is a Low Latency or Realtime kernel and why should I cross the
> > street to say hello to it?
> >
> > Thanks :)
> > Leandro
>
> I would go so far as to say it doesn't matter here.
>
> I would say go for something Ubuntu based only because there's alot of
> focus to get working packages there. Like akirad's repo.
>
> You could use Studio as a base and not select the other tasks on install
> and add what you want later. That will give you a very slim base. This
> all depends on your use-case.
>
> -Cory K.
>
> ___
> Cinelerra mailing list
> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
>

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra freeze

[Daniel Jircik]

I can report the same performance issues on Gentoo Emerge packages and
current svn. Turn of Compiz and run as root, that seems to work for me.
There was a ubuntu kludge that involves  downgrading LibX11 recently  posted
on this list  but I can't find it .
Daniel



On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Bhikkhu Mettavihari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> Hello
>
> I run Ubuntu 8.04.1
>
> I have run Cinelerra now for some years.
> I started by building and installing my own version
> Next I found Rafaels Pre build version for Slackware which I used.
> After that I tried shifting over to Ubunto which had pre-build versions,
> and they work quite well for me even today.
>
> I resently installed cinelerra in a friends machine and I had some
> problems with it freezing up
> I thought this must be a machine related problem, so I did not take it
> so seriously
>
> 2 days ago I also installed cinelerra in my Laptop and found the same
> problem.
>
> I first installed the Version of Cinelerra from
> http://akirad.cinelerra.org and that had the same problem.
>
> after that I tested with the version from:
> http://giss.tv/~vale/ubuntu32/hardy
> Cenelerra 2.1CV
> Build date Mon Jul 28 21:34:02
> quicktime version 2.2.0 internal ffmpeg
> Libmpeg3 version 1.7.9
>
> Both version seems to have the same problem.
>
> After working for some time the interface will freeze and I would not
> be able to use the program
> To explain some of the things I could not do.
> the 'Arm' buttons cannot be changed.
> all the buttons on that panel where the arm button is situated could
> not be activated
> but the play button would work and I could play back the track
> On the composer the play button would not work at all.
>
> I would then go to the xml file and edit the arm option from 0 to 1
> and it would again work, and I could render my file.
> I do not have that problem in the earlier version of Cinelerra that I
> installed from the same sites about 6 month earlier.
>
> I have that version installed on 2 production machines which I
> normally do not upgrade if they work.
> I also have an older version on Slackware from Rafaels site which is
> still working quite well.
>
> It is difficult for me to describe what goes wrong in technical terms.
> If you do not understand what I am saying, then please ask.
>
> I would like to help to settle this problem and I can do some testing
> on this machine
>
> with metta
> Mettavihari
>
> ___
> Cinelerra mailing list
> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
>

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra package name (was: Gentoo package renamed)

[Daniel Jircik]

I think there should be a differance. Naming cinelerra-cv is appropriate.
I'd like to use cinelerra4 but can't get it to build on my gentoo box. If
somebody want's to maintain upstream heroines on gentoo it should be
available as cinelerra.
D

On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 10:12 AM, Raffaella Traniello <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Ciao!
>
>Hanno Böck wrote:
>The gentoo package of cinelerra community version was named
>cinelerra-cvs in the past. As it's no longer cvs and "original
>cinelerra" (hv version) has been removed long time ago, we've
>now renamed the package to plain cinelerra.
>We had a discussion about that (and cinelerra-cv was suggested),
>but for me, two reasons spoke for cinelerra:
>a) other distros use this name as well
>b) cinelerra community version is the only cinelerraversion
>maintained today.
>I want people to get something when they type in emerge
>cinelerra
>
>mskala wrote:
>Given that there is no other cinelerra package available for
>Gentoo, I think it's perfectly reasonable (fair and right) to
>use the name "cinelerra" for the only cinelerra package that
>exists. However, if the system supports it (and I imagine it
>does) it'd probably be best for this to be done through some
>kind of aliasing mechanism - just like you can probably install
>something called "kernel" and get "kernel-2.6.19.123.foo", maybe
>there could be a package called
>"cinelerra" that currently gives you "cinelerra-cv" but could be
>easily switched to some other cinelerra at such time as there is
>one.
>
> The situation of Cinelerra for Ubuntu makes me think at this issue
> again.
> Since long time Ubuntu has packages for both CinelerraCV and
> CinelerraHV. And now we can enjoy even an official HV Ubuntu package.
>
> Personally I'm really in favour for differentiating the versions on
> every distro using different names:
> 'cinelerra'
> 'cinelerra-cv'
>
> For distros with no 'cinelerra' package, I like mskala's suggestion of
> automatic switching to 'cinelerra-cv'.
>
> What are the cons of this proposal?
>
> Ciao
> Raffaella
>
>
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> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
>

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra4: first hints and patches for compiling

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi again
Patch 3 returned this error:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -p1 < aa_file.cpp.patch
missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- aa_file.cpp 2008-05-31 11:25:31.0 +0200
|+++
/static/cinelerra/cin4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/aa_file.cpp
2008-08-12 15:33:10.0 +0200
--
File to patch:
/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/aa_file.cpp
patching file
/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/aa_file.cpp
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -p1 < faad2.cpp.2.patch
missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- faad2.cpp   2008-05-31 11:25:31.0 +0200
|+++
/static/cinelerra/cin4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/faad2.cpp
2008-08-12 16:59:50.0 +0200
--
File to patch:
/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/faad2.cpp
patching file
/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/faad2.cpp
patch:  malformed patch at line 95:

++Error on make is as follows:

 g++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../include -D_REENTRANT
-DNOCONTROLS -fexceptions -g -O2 -MT faad2.lo -MD -MP -MF .deps/faad2.Tpo -c
faad2.cpp  -fPIC -DPIC -o .libs/faad2.o
In file included from faad2.cpp:21:
faad2.h:28:26: error: codec_plugin.h: No such file or directory
faad2.cpp:22:32: error: mpeg4_audio_config.h: No such file or directory
faad2.cpp:23:23: error: mpeg4_sdp.h: No such file or directory
In file included from faad2.cpp:21:
faad2.h:36: error: 'codec_data_t' does not name a type
faad2.h:37: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'audio_vft_t' with no type
faad2.h:37: error: expected ';' before '*' token
faad2.h:55: error: ISO C++ forbids declaration of 'FILE' with no type
faad2.h:55: error: expected ';' before '*' token
faad2.h:70: error: variable or field 'aac_close' declared void
faad2.h:70: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:70: error: 'ptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:73: error: expected constructor, destructor, or type conversion
before '*' token
faad2.h:82: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:82: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:83: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token
faad2.h:83: error: 'buffer' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:84: error: expected primary-expression before '*' token
faad2.h:84: error: 'ts' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:84: error: initializer expression list treated as compound
expression
faad2.h:85: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:85: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:87: error: variable or field 'aac_file_used_for_frame' declared void
faad2.h:87: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:87: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:88: error: expected primary-expression before 'bytes'
faad2.h:90: error: 'codec_data_t' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:90: error: 'ifptr' was not declared in this scope
faad2.h:91: error: expected primary-expression before 'ts'
faad2.h:91: error: initializer expression list treated as compound
expression
faad2.cpp:38: error: expected initializer before '*' token
make[6]: *** [faad2.lo] Error 1
make[6]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip'
make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0'
make[2]: *** [x86_64/faad] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4'
make: *** [all] Error 2
localhost cinelerra-4 #

Tried modifying top level configure as per Richards AMD issues to no avail
System MSI k92a2-cf mobo AMD Quad 64
4 G ram
Gentoo (Sabayon3.5)
Any suggestions? Thanks in Advance
Daniel




On Thu, Aug 14, 2008 at 4:20 PM, Richard Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've just done the same thing on Fedora Core 8 on AMD Quad Core Phenom
> (9950 Black Edition - 2.5GHz). I ran across only 2 places where I had to
> deal with the AMD specific items:
>
> top-level configure:
> Added:  --with-extra-cflags="-mtune=amdfam10 -mcpu=amdfam10"
> to all lines calling subsidiary configure programs
>
> /thirdparty/mj

Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra4: first hints and patches for compiling

[Daniel Jircik]

Hi Simeon
How do I apply these patches, I'm doing something wrong. Here's my original
build error and the output of my patch attempt. I'm on Gentoo (Sabayon 3.5)
AMD 64 quad core. I installed mpeg4ip  via emerge.
Thanks in advance
Daniel

++ORIGINAL BUILD OUTPUT+++

make[6]: *** [faad2.lo] Error 1
make[6]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/fa
ad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip'
make[5]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[5]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/fa
ad2-2.0/plugins'
make[4]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/fa
ad2-2.0'
make[3]: *** [all] Error 2
make[3]: Leaving directory
`/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime/thirdparty/fa
ad2-2.0'
make[2]: *** [x86_64/faad] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4/quicktime'
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/daniel/src/cinelerra-4'
make: *** [all] Error 2


++
+++PATCH OUTPUT+++
++
++
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ ls
aa_file.cpp.patch  builerr1.txt~
COPYINGglobal_config  Makefile   pluginssoundtest.c
bincincvcinelerra4firsthintsandpatchesforcompiling.zip
docguicastmpeg2enc   po thirdparty
build  cinelerra
faad2.cpp.1.patch  hvirtual_config.h  mplexloquicktime
builerr1.txt   configure
faad2.cpp.2.patch  libmpeg3   plugin_config  README
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ rm
cincvcinelerra4firsthintsandpatchesforcompiling.zip
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -i faad2.cpp.2.patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- faad2.cpp   2008-05-31 11:25:31.0 +0200
|+++
/static/cinelerra/cin4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/faad2.cpp
2008-08-12 16:59:50.0 +0200
--
File to patch:
Skip this patch? [y] y
Skipping patch.
patch:  malformed patch at line 95:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -i faad2.cpp.1.patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- faad2.cpp   2008-05-31 11:25:31.0 +0200
|+++
/static/cinelerra/cin4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/faad2.cpp
2008-08-12 16:59:50.0 +0200
--
File to patch:
Skip this patch? [y] y
Skipping patch.
5 out of 5 hunks ignored
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -p faad2.cpp.1.patch
patch:  strip count faad2.cpp.1.patch is not a number
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -i aa_file.cpp.patch
can't find file to patch at input line 3
Perhaps you should have used the -p or --strip option?
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- aa_file.cpp 2008-05-31 11:25:31.0 +0200
|+++
/static/cinelerra/cin4/quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/aa_file.cpp
2008-08-12 15:33:10.0 +0200
--
File to patch:
Skip this patch? [y]
Skipping patch.
1 out of 1 hunk ignored
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -i -p aa_file.cpp.patch
patch:  Can't open patch file -p : No such file or directory
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $ patch -p aa_file.cpp.patch
patch:  strip count aa_file.cpp.patch is not a number
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/src/cinelerra-4 $
.

On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Simeon Völkel <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I've just compiled Cinelerra Version 4 on my Gentoo Linux.
>
> I'd like to share my changes I had to make to make cin4
> compile for me in the hope someone else finds the following
> information useful.
>
>
> I didn't succeed in compiling cin4 without corrupting
>
> quicktime/thirdparty/faad2-2.0/plugins/mpeg4ip/faad2.cpp
>
> That's why I split up the second diff: The first version
> seems to be crucial to compile cin4 on a 32bit (Gentoo?)
> Linux, the second file contains the first one plus a work-
> around to make cin4 actually compile for me.
>
> Both files are outputs of diff -u.
>
>
> === Annotations for compiling ===
>
> Obviously, with version 4, a new dependency was introduced:
> mpeg4ip. Without having the (devel-!) package installed,
> you are likely to run into errors like
>
> faad2.h:28:26: error: codec_plugin.h: No such file or directory
>
> On Gentoo you'll just have to emerge mpeg4ip of course.
>
>
> Secondly: Errors like
>
> faad2.cpp:86: error: invalid conversion from 'long unsigned int*' to
> 'uint32_t*'
>
> should be solved by applying my patches. J

[CinCV] Non responsive gui

[Daniel Jircik]

On a fresh install built from source (svn 1061) The gui is unresponsive. You
can get to File>Load Files (dialog)
Create New Resorces Only and the resource does not show up in the resources
window. Then the gui is completely not accesible. If you choose Replace
Current Project you can get one clip onto the timeline before the gui
becomes unresponsive.I've seen several threads on this issue and someone
suggested downgrading Xlibs  as guicast has a confict with Compiz? Anyone
have a handle on this?

My setup:
AMD quad core
MSI K9A2 CF mobo
4 Gig ram
Sabayon 3.5 OS (gentoo)
Source material m2t HDV footage captured with dvgrab

Problem is the same when installing from Gentoo repository via emerge or
when building from source. I delete old  /.bcast for fresh install. Another
thread suggested that this is an old problem that started awhile ago. If
possibel does anyone know when it started so I can use an older svn? Thanks
in advance.
Daniel

Re: [CinCV] Video editors for Linix

[Daniel Jircik]

Check out veejay.
http://www.veejayhq.net/
It's build as a modular system server and gui network client. I've been
following this project for awhile.
Daniel

On Fri, Jun 20, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Martin Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I don't think Lumiera is targeting the real-time space. There is an
> application category for television production where several video streams
> need to be integrated in real time, but I would think that the mechanics and
> the interface are so different from 'non-linear' video editing that they
> would need a completely different application. Maybe they could share a few
> libraries.
>
> In short, Lumiera does not need video jack.
>
> --
> Regards,
> Martin
> ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> IT: http://methodsupport.com Personal: http://thereisnoend.org

Re: stop action animation, was Re: [CinCV] (OT) A Recent Aquisition

[Daniel Jircik]

Have you seen this?
http://stopmotion.bjoernen.com/


On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 10:05 AM, Yama Ploskonka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I've used this very expensive thing once, and always dreamed for a simple
> software solution.
> http://www.animationtoolworks.com/
>
> If someone could develop something like this that could be used by the One
> Laptop Per Child project, I would be so happy, and so would be a bunch of
> kids.
>
> Basically the lunchbox has a *simple interface* that lets you capture a
> frame, sets it up in a sequence, lets you review that sequence and edit it
> (add frames and/or erase them), save it and start another sequence. Fancier
> options let you change fps, and that sort of thing, but you don't really
> need that.  The key is the simple interface for capture of the frames and
> review.
>
> Someone feels like doing something like that?
>
> Yama
>
> Andrew Hunter wrote:
>
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>> | I just picked up a Mitchell 35 mm film camera. I'm planning on doing a
>> | short stop action piece with it hopefully in August..
>> | http://reggaecobras.com/blog/?page_id=25
>> | Anyone have in Cineon workflow experiences to share? It's got reflex
>> | viewing so I was thinking of setting up the viewfinder with an RGB
>> | lightsource and doing my own 4k scan.
>> | ciao
>> | Daniel
>>
>> For the love of goodness, make sure that the velvet rollers in the mag
>> are clean. That was the largest flaw of Mitchell style mags, if those
>> rollers get dirty, it's almost less work to just replace it.
>>
>> As for a (untested) Cineon workflow, your best bet would be import the
>> image sequence into blender on a shot by shot basis and doing all of you
>> compositing in there.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Andrew.
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[CinCV] (OT) A Recent Aquisition

[Daniel Jircik]

I just picked up a Mitchell 35 mm film camera. I'm planning on doing a short
stop action piece with it hopefully in August..
http://reggaecobras.com/blog/?page_id=25
Anyone have in Cineon workflow experiences to share? It's got reflex viewing
so I was thinking of setting up the viewfinder with an RGB lightsource and
doing my own 4k scan.
ciao
Daniel

Re: [CinCV] jog n shuttle hardware

[Daniel Jircik]

Kino uses the middle mouse wheel. It would be nice to have that
functionality in cin as well.

On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Carl Karsten <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am looking to get a jog and shuttle device for scrubbing - I would like
> to use cinelerra, but anything that will give me a time or frame would be
> fine.
>
> There are a few aspects to my quest:
>
> cinelerra compatibility - I hear there is currently none.
>
> I hear kino has it, but can't find any proof.
>
> physical quality - not so much can it survive a drop or a shark attack,
> but I am guessing there are ones that have a nice feel and work well, and
> maybe there are crappy ones like a cheap keyboard.  I cant find any in the
> local stores, so I can't just go in and play with a few.
>
> so any advice would be welcome.
>
> Carl K
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Re: [CinCV] Donation: 512 MB RAM, anyone?

[Daniel Jircik]

I've got tons of stuff I could donate. firewire cards 4 g memory, assorted
32bit mobo,  firewire cards. video cards.someone figure it out and I'll
send it on.
ciao
Daniel


On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 5:49 PM, Christian Thaeter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Andreas Hermann Braml wrote:
> > Hi!
> >
> > It's not much that I can contribute here code-wise (or
> > ins-and-outs-of-multimedia-formats-wise), so I'm glad that I can
> > offer something entirely different: hardware, RAM for that
> > matter. It's a bar of 512MB PC2-4200 SO-DDR2 533 that came
> > preinstalled with the Dell Inspiron 6400n I bought last summer.
> > I pimped the machine to the maximum of 2GB lately, and since
> > there are only two sockets that can hold a maximum of 1GB each,
> > the original memory is no longer of any use to me. So, if anyone
> > of the Cinelerra developers is in need of such memory - be it
> > only as a spare one or to sell it on ebay ;) - please contact me
> > via PM. I know that offer is not huge, as memory is fairly
> > inexpensive nowadays, but I ask anyway.
> > This is also a good opportunity to say thanks to all of you!
> > Cinelerra enables me to pull off my first movie project without
> > having to sell my soul to the devil, err, employer for some
> > months to then be able to pay for an editing suite which I can't
> > understant how any programmer of sane mind could ever have
> > designed the way it is (step in/step out for layered effects on
> > Avid, for example). So thanks, you rock!
> >
> > Andreas, aka pseudoruprecht
> >
> > P.S. For the record: I didn't upgrade the memory in the laptop
> > for Cinelerra (512MB were just fine for SD DV). KDE4 was the
> > culprit. That nasty memory hog ;)
>
> Thats an exceptionally cool idea! Kudos.
>
> While I can only speak for me (I have sufficent hardware) I guess most
> cinelerra devs (and lumiera devs) don't need it. Unless I am wrong may I
> suggest to extend this offer to Cinelerra users too? .. sometimes people
> show up on IRC which have awfuly low end machines and want to use
> cinelerra.
>
> Maybe this might initiate some hardware exchange, I would like it, going
> to check my spare parts box too. We could setup an wiki page for
> offered/needed hardware parts (limited to cinelerra/lumiera users and
> devs). Things like harddisks, used DV cams, Firewire PCI card, CD/DVD
> burners would be good candidates.
>
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Re: [CinCV] Problems with shotdown

[Daniel Jircik]

What distro are you using?
How did you install? Using emerge or from source ?
I could never get the gentoo package to run. (Using emerge to install) if
that's how you installed it. I had a similar problem as yours when I built
from source. Running the command ldconfig in a console fixed it.
daniel

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 7:43 PM, Sebastian Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

>
>
> 2008/3/17, Daniel Jircik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> >
> > Is this a fresh install from sources? If so go to the hvirtual directory
> > where built/downloaded and run ldconfig . I had a similar problem on gentoo.
> > daniel
>
>
> Could you be more specific: what do you mean with hvirtual directory? Do
> you mean /var/tmp/portage/media-video/cinelerra-cvs?
>
>
> --
> Sebastian Lopez Pascual
> www.hindukush.com.ar
>

Re: [CinCV] Problems with shotdown

[Daniel Jircik]

Is this a fresh install from sources? If so go to the hvirtual directory
where built/downloaded and run ldconfig . I had a similar problem on gentoo.
daniel

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Sebastian Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi everyone, i'm new on the list and 'm having some problems with
> cinelerra.
>
> Everytime I push play, the program shots down.
>
> This is the lines at the konsole:
>
> $ cinelerra
> Cinelerra 2.1CV  Gentoo - SVN r1047 (C) 2006 Heroine Virtual Ltd.
> External ffmpeg
> Compiled on Sun Mar  2 18:29:29 ARST 2008
>
> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.
> signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=16762 execution table size=2:
> vrender.C: run: 416
> vrender.C: run: 427
> FileDV::open_file 40
> signal_entry: lock table size=21
> 0x8bc10a8 CWindowTool::input_lock CWindowTool::run
> 0x84f74d8 BC_Synchronous::next_command BC_Synchronous::run
> 0x8c91c30 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
> 0x8d00888 ResourceThread::draw_lock ResourceThread::run
> 0x9b55b3b8 AudioDevice::play_lock AudioDevice::run 1
> 0x8c93fd0 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
> 0x8d2fc68 BC_Repeater::pause_lock BC_Repeater::run
> 0x8c92bd0 Cinelerra: projecto.xml IndexFile::redraw_edits *
> 0x8c92bd0 Cinelerra: projecto.xml BC_Repeater::run
> 0x89dfb60 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
> 0x8c92bd0 Cinelerra: projecto.xml (null)
> 0x8c92bd0 Cinelerra: projecto.xml CTracking::update_tracker 2
> 0x8d31280 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
> 0x8c0aa30 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
> 0x8b244e0 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
> 0x8be6020 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
> 0x9b447cd0 LoadClient::input_lock LoadClient::run
> 0x9b447dd0 LoadClient::input_lock LoadClient::run
> 0x9b4935f0 LoadClient::input_lock LoadClient::run
> 0x90584d0 FileDV::stream_lock (null) *
> 0x9b493798 LoadClient::input_lock LoadClient::run
> BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0
> BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files
> SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0
> Aborted
>
> does anybody knows what the problem is about?
> Thanks!
> (i sorry if my englsh is not so well, i'm a little rusty...)
> --
> Sebastian Lopez Pascual
> www.hindukush.com.ar

Re: [CinCV] Re: Idea for logo try 2 (marquitux)

[Daniel Jircik]

there are many ways of keeping this project funding, and keep it open but
remember, this is not an app to wrtite text, or a messenger or somethign
like that, if you want to make a PRO NLE, FOCUS ON THAT and who is going to
use it... many will use it for free, but if this works, I WOULD PAY FOR
COMPATIBLE CODECS AND EXTRA FEATURES in cinelerra,if that option extists.
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 10:19 PM, marquitux caballero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

This thread has gone a bit OT but I agree with you Marquitux. Sometimes
barriers to FOSS solutions is the inability of a corporate structure  to
hang their hat on a solution without a (so nineties) support desk, Evan if
you never need it. I make money doing this stuff. I don't mind spending
money to make money. I would be thrilled to deploy Cin/Lumierra solutions
with a commercial support structure, Start a 501C3 (US) make a foundation
and hire a full time developer to wrangle this beast . I'm sure there is
more than one or two persons on this list that would be interested in that
position. Seldom if ever have I seen a question or problem go un addressed
on this or most any FOSS list but having someone to freak out on and get
something fixed now would be nice. I'd pay for that.
Kind Regards
Daniel Jircik
http://www.moviestuff.tv