Re: [CinCV] Importing Video into Cinelerra

[Jim Scott]

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Stephen More wrote:

> >> Using linux, what steps do I need to perform to load this into cinelerra
> ?
> >>   There are many capable programs: mencoder, y4mtoqt, transcode, ffmpeg,
> >> vlc ???
> >>
> >> So far I have only been able to get cinelerra exit abnormally.
> >>
> >> -Thanks
> >> Steve More
> >>
>

You can also use dv, but the files will be huge. Using ffmpeg, the command
is something like:

ffmpeg -i INPUT.wmv -target ntsc-dv OUTPUT.dv

Re: [CinCV] Terrible render output from AVCHD input

[Jim Scott]

On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 10:26 AM, Mr Scsi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I am hoping someone can point me to what I am doing wrong.
>
> I have a sony sr12 that shoots in avchd .mts files. I understand that
> cinelerra can't work with those natively, so I followed some instructions I
> found to convert them:
>
> http://www.fsckin.com/2008/01/03/transcoding-mtsm2ts-avchd-video-files-with-free-software
>
> In my setup, I have played with the final ffmpeg step and settled on:
> ffmpeg -r 29.97 -s 1920x1080 -deinterlace -i $videofifo -i audio.ac3
> -vcodec mpeg2video -sameq -acodec copy -aspect 16:9 outputfile.mpg
>
> The resulting mpeg file has fantastic quality and cinelerra will import it
> to edit without complaint.
>
> My problems begin when I render the output. I end up with pixelation,
> artifacts and generally youtube quality output. Not what I put into
> cinelerra.
>
> I have tried multiple render combinations and the all seem to loose
> significant quality.
>

What render combinations have you tried?

Re: [CinCVS] Render errors for quicktime, AVI

[Jim Scott]

On 8/27/07, Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 2007-08-27 19:15, Johannes Sixt wrote:
> > On Monday 27 August 2007 15:35, Jim Scott wrote:
> > > I checked out the current SVN yesterday and compiled it with no
> problems
> > > for amd64. I can render to most audio formats, DV, and yuv4mpeg.
> Cinelerra
> > > crashes whenever I try to render video into either quicktime or AVI
> format.
> > >
> > > Any idea what the issue might be? Backtrace of one crash is below.
> >
> > I've seen this backtrace in the past, I think. The reason for the crash
> was
> > that the person had two incompatible versions of x264 on the system, one
> > in /usr, the other in /usr/local. The build used the headers of one
> version,
> > but linked the other version. And, no, it doesn't matter whether your
> footage
> > is in that codec - you crash regardless.
> >
> > -- Hannes
>
> Hi Hannes,
>
> H264, really?  Maybe I misinterpreted the backtrace.  It looked to me
> like:
>
> > #5 0x2ab60e7b in quicktime_set_video (file=0x25bc540, tracks=1,
> > frame_w=720, frame_h=480, frame_rate=,
> > compressor=0x4aa080c0 "dvc ") at quicktime.c:245
>
> with the 'dvc' compressor was using libdv.  Is H264 sometimes used also?
>
>
I don't think it was a dv issue. I had quite a few stale header files
sitting in /usr/local/include -- faac.h, x264.h, and a quicktime folder. I
removed those header files and recompiled. That seems to have fixed the
primary issue. I can now render test files to quicktime containers. Thanks
for the suggestions!

Re: [CinCVS] Render errors for quicktime, AVI

[Jim Scott]

On 8/27/07, Brosius, Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  > I checked out the current SVN yesterday and compiled it with no
> problems for
> > amd64. I can render to most audio formats, DV, and yuv4mpeg. Cinelerra
> crashes
> > whenever I try to render video into either quicktime or AVI format.
> >
> > Any idea what the issue might be? Backtrace of one crash is below.
>
> Using what codec?  What version of libdv (looking at your backtrace makes
> me ask this question?)  On what distro?
>
> I was able to render to quicktime package with the dv, h264, yuv2, and
> msmpeg4(DIVX) codecs using current svn(1018) when I tested the new SUSE
> packages
> yesterday.
>

Thanks for the feedback

 I'm running Fedora 7 on an AMD64, freshly installed and current through
Saturday. Kernel is 2.6.22.4-65. I use some media libs from atrpms, but not
libdv. I can render audio into quicktime or AVI containers, but I get a
crash if I render any type of video into the container. For example, I can
render audio and video to raw DV. If I try to render the DV in a quicktime
container, cinelerra crashes. Likewise, I can render to JPEG or PNG
sequence, but if I try either of those formats with a quicktime or AVI
container, cinelerra crashes.

I will have to check which version of libdv is installed.


 



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Your source. For everything. Really.

[CinCVS] Render errors for quicktime, AVI

[Jim Scott]

I checked out the current SVN yesterday and compiled it with no problems for
amd64. I can render to most audio formats, DV, and yuv4mpeg. Cinelerra
crashes whenever I try to render video into either quicktime or AVI format.

Any idea what the issue might be? Backtrace of one crash is below.

(gdb) backtrace
#0  0x0033b3073acb in free () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#1  0x2ab5db72 in delete_codec (vtrack=)
at qth264.c:91
#2  0x2ab5b625 in quicktime_find_vcodec (vtrack=0x2585f20)
at plugin.c:138
#3  0x2ab51137 in new_vcodec (vtrack=0x2585f20) at codecs.c:122
#4  0x2ab5fa0e in quicktime_init_video_map (vtrack=0x1,
trak=0x2acf236a) at quicktime.c:979
#5  0x2ab60e7b in quicktime_set_video (file=0x25bc540, tracks=1,
frame_w=720, frame_h=480, frame_rate=,
compressor=0x4aa080c0 "dvc ") at quicktime.c:245
#6  0x0058b2b4 in FileMOV::asset_to_format (this=0x25fccf0)
at filemov.C:329
#7  0x0058b8a8 in FileMOV::open_file (this=0x25fccf0, rd=0, wr=1)
at filemov.C:213
#8  0x005725f4 in File::open_file (this=0x1cf10c0,
preferences=, asset=0x25b8690, rd=0, wr=1,
base_samplerate=,
base_framerate=) at file.C:546
#9  0x0060315f in PackageRenderer::create_output (this=0x4aa0e6a0)
at packagerenderer.C:147
#10 0x00603303 in PackageRenderer::render_package (this=0x4aa0e6a0,
package=0x1d62900) at packagerenderer.C:510
---Type  to continue, or q  to quit---
#11 0x0063f507 in Render::render (this=0x1c8d140, test_overwrite=1,
asset=, edl=, strategy=0,
range_type=) at render.C :794
#12 0x006401e8 in Render::run (this=0x1c8d140) at render.C:368
#13 0x2b6ff456 in Thread::entrypoint (parameters=)
at thread.C:48
#14 0x0033b40062f7 in start_thread () from /lib64/libpthread.so.0
#15 0x0033b30d0fbd in clone () from /lib64/libc.so.6
#16 0x in ?? ()

Re: [CinCVS] Missing mpeg2enc.plugin

[Jim Scott]

On 3/25/07, Martin Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


OK, I think I ran out of disk. I removed a lot of files and reran and the
render ran through to the end.

Then I merged in the audio using ffmpeg and I'm got a lot of "invalid new
backstep" messages and a few buffer underflows.

However, it seems to have created a valid file, at least ffplay reads it
without problems; I'm yet to cut a DVD.

I've always had success using mplex to combine audio and video for DVD.

something like:

mplex -f 8 -o new.vob old.m2v old.ac3

Re: [CinCVS] Missing mpeg2enc.plugin

[Jim Scott]

On 3/24/07, Martin Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


OK thanks, when I did that it found the plugin, but a minute or so later
gave the following (tail only):
...
   INFO: [mpeg2enc.plugin] RENC: 0 - reencode actual 139232 (15.9) target
15094 (146.7)
   INFO: [mpeg2enc.plugin ] Working: stripe 0/1 1
   INFO: [mpeg2enc.plugin] Worker: stripe 0 done
   INFO: [mpeg2enc.plugin] Worker: getting
   INFO: [mpeg2enc.plugin] Pass2 0 0( 0) I q=62.00 RECODED
**ERROR: [mpeg2enc.plugin] Operation not permitted



Is mpeg2enc.plugin executable? Do you have appropriate permissions for
mpeg2enc.plugin?

Re: [CinCVS] Missing mpeg2enc.plugin

[Jim Scott]

On 3/24/07, Martin Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I am getting:
/usr/local/lib/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin: No such file or directory

I know that others have reported this in the past but I can't see a
work-around.

This is a recent build from SVN on FC6 on x86_64.



You simply need to copy or link mpeg2enc into the cinelerra directory. On
FC6, you probably need the mjpegtools package. This will install
/usr/bin/mpeg2enc. Simply copy (or link) this file to
/usr/local/lib/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin

Re: [CinCVS] Re: Patch for cinelerra/fileyuv.C -- what am I doing wrong?

[Jim Scott]

On 3/13/07, Kevin Brosius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


You don't mention if you tested this patch with the in-tree version of
ffmpeg?  I suspect anyone who takes a look at the patch will need to
test that case, unless you have already.  Please let us know if you
considered this case.



I'm resending the patch as an attachment. I'll also put it here:

--- fileyuv.C.original  2007-03-10 17:53:56.0 -0600
+++ fileyuv.C   2007-03-10 17:54:31.0 -0600
@@ -415,8 +415,8 @@ int YUVConfigVideo::create_objects()

   x += 180;
   add_subwindow(ffmpeg = new PipePreset(x, y, "ffmpeg", pipe_textbox,
pipe_checkbox));
-   ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(DVD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i
- -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -hq -f mpeg2video %"));
-   ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(VCD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i
- -y -target vcd -hq -f mpeg2video %"));
+   ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(DVD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i
- -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -f mpeg2video %"));
+   ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(VCD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i
- -y -target vcd -f mpeg2video %"));

   add_subwindow(new BC_OKButton(this));
   add_subwindow(new BC_CancelButton(this));

I'm not sure how to test this against the in tree version of ffmpeg. The
patch only affects the presets on the yuv4mpeg drop down. I did not think
this change would affect any other ffmpeg calls.

Hannes was concerned about older versions of ffmpeg. The way the preset is
now, anyone using a recent version of ffmpeg has to change the preset. The
change shifts the responsibility to someone using an older version of ffmpeg
to add the -hq option if that is what they want.

Thank you both for your replies.
Thanks for your
--- fileyuv.C.original	2007-03-10 17:53:56.0 -0600
+++ fileyuv.C	2007-03-10 17:54:31.0 -0600
@@ -415,8 +415,8 @@ int YUVConfigVideo::create_objects()
 
 	x += 180;
 	add_subwindow(ffmpeg = new PipePreset(x, y, "ffmpeg", pipe_textbox, pipe_checkbox));
-	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(DVD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -hq -f mpeg2video %"));
-	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(VCD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target vcd -hq -f mpeg2video %"));
+	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(DVD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -f mpeg2video %"));
+	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(VCD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target vcd -f mpeg2video %"));
 
 	add_subwindow(new BC_OKButton(this));
 	add_subwindow(new BC_CancelButton(this));

[CinCVS] Re: Patch for cinelerra/fileyuv.C -- what am I doing wrong?

[Jim Scott]

On 3/10/07, Jim Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I've never submitted a patch before and I'm not sure if this is the right
spot. This patch removes the -hq setting from the default yuv4mpeg ffmpeg
settings in  cinelerra/fileyuv.C I don't think the -hq switch is supported
by current versions of ffmpeg, so I think it makes sense to remove the
setting.



Could someone please let me know whether this is the wrong place to suggest
a patch or whether the change is not acceptable?

[CinCVS] Patch for cinelerra/fileyuv.C

[Jim Scott]

I've never submitted a patch before and I'm not sure if this is the right
spot. This patch removes the -hq setting from the default yuv4mpeg ffmpeg
settings in  cinelerra/fileyuv.C I don't think the -hq switch is supported
by current versions of ffmpeg, so I think it makes sesnse to remove the
setting.
--- fileyuv.C.original	2007-03-10 17:53:56.0 -0600
+++ fileyuv.C	2007-03-10 17:54:31.0 -0600
@@ -415,8 +415,8 @@ int YUVConfigVideo::create_objects()
 
 	x += 180;
 	add_subwindow(ffmpeg = new PipePreset(x, y, "ffmpeg", pipe_textbox, pipe_checkbox));
-	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(DVD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -hq -f mpeg2video %"));
-	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(VCD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target vcd -hq -f mpeg2video %"));
+	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(DVD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -f mpeg2video %"));
+	ffmpeg->add_item(new BC_MenuItem("(VCD) | ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i - -y -target vcd -f mpeg2video %"));
 
 	add_subwindow(new BC_OKButton(this));
 	add_subwindow(new BC_CancelButton(this));

[CinCVS] Cinelerra crashes when I render to any video other than yuv4mpeg

[Jim Scott]

I just checked out and compiled the latest source from SVN. I'm running
Fedora Core 6 on an amd64 processor. The build went smoothly:

--- FFMPEG CONFIGURATION SECTION --
quicktime/ffmpeg/configure --disable-mmx --disable-altivec
Install prefix   /usr/local
Source path  /home/jim/tmp/hvirtual/quicktime/ffmpeg
C compiler   gcc
make make
CPU  x86_64 (generic)
Big Endian   no
inttypes.h   yes
broken inttypes.h no
MMX enabled  no
Vector Builtins  yes
gprof enabledno
zlib enabled yes
libgsm enabled   no
mp3lame enabled  no
libogg enabled   no
vorbis enabled   no
theora enabled   no
faad enabled no
faadbin enabled  no
faac enabled no
xvid enabled no
x264 enabled no
a52 support  no
a52 dlopened no
dts support  no
pp support   no
debug symbolsyes
strip symbolsyes
optimize yes
shared ppno
Video hookingyes
SDL support  yes
Imlib2 support   no
freetype support yes
Sun medialib support no
pthreads support no
AMR-NB float support no
AMR-NB fixed support no
AMR-WB float support no
AMR-WB IF2 support no
network support  yes
IPv6 support yes
License: LGPL
creating avconfig.mak and avconfig.h


Summary of mandatory components:
 libogg  found
 libvorbis   found
 libvorbisencfound
 libvorbisfile   found
 libtheora   found
 OpenEXR found
 libdv   found
 libpng  found
 libjpeg libraries   found
 libjpeg headers found
 libtiff libraries   found
 libtiff headers found
 FreeType 2  found
 libx264 libraries   found
 libx264 headers found
 libuuid libraries   found
 libuuid headers found
 mjpegtools  found
 libfftw3 libraries  found
 libfftw3 headersfound
 liba52 librariesfound
 liba52 headers  found
 libmp3lame librariesfound
 libmp3lame headers  found
 libsndfile librariesfound
 libsndfile headers  found
 libfaac libraries   found
 libfaac headers found
 libfaad libraries   found
 libfaad headers found

Summary of optional components:
 ESD subsystem   found
ESD (Enlightenment Sound Daemon) is enabled
 ALSA subsystem  found
ALSA is enabled
 libraw1394  found
 libiec61883 found
 libavc1394 librariesfound
 libavc1394 headers  found
 librom1394 librariesfound
 librom1394 headers  found
Firewire is enabled
 OpenGL 2.0 librariesmissing
Hardware acceleration using OpenGL 2.0 is disabled

When ever I try to render video to anything other than yuv4mpeg, I get an
error like this:

Render::run 10
signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=7212 execution table size=16:
   mwindow.C: load_filenames: 1151
   mwindow.C: load_filenames: 1153
   vrender.C: run: 414
   vrender.C: process_buffer: 103
   vrender.C: process_buffer: 113
   bchash.C: copy_from: 255
   bchash.C: copy_from: 258
   bchash.C: copy_from: 267
   bchash.C: copy_from: 255
   bchash.C: copy_from: 258
   bchash.C: copy_from: 267
   bchash.C: copy_from: 255
   bchash.C: copy_from: 258
   bchash.C: copy_from: 267
   vrender.C: run: 416
   vrender.C: run: 555
signal_entry: lock table size=13
   0x1add360 CWindowTool::input_lock CWindowTool::run
   0xb08d40 BC_Synchronous::next_command BC_Synchronous::run
   0x1baf310 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
   0x1bafd00 MainIndexes::input_lock MainIndexes::run 1
   0x1c24f90 ResourceThread::draw_lock ResourceThread::run
   0x1b02820 TransportQue::output_lock PlaybackEngine::run
   0x18f68b0 LoadClient::input_lock LoadClient::run
   0x1b25200 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
   0x1a33790 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
   0x1b04280 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
   0x1c60d20 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
   0x1903ea0 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
   0x1bb1ec0 BC_WindowBase::event_condition BC_WindowBase::get_event
BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0
BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files
SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0
Aborted

Any idea what the problem might be?

Re: [CinCVS] exporting to mpeg2

[jim scott]

On 1/17/07, Edouard Chalaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


 Hi there
Now that the rendering is set up fine I am exporting uncompressed 422 2vuy
movie frames into mpeg2enc directly (using Y4MPEG option)

However instead of having a movie.m2v I end up with some movie.m2v001,
movie.m2v002 etc 
They are recognised as data using the file command and cant be multiplexed
by mplex.

Any idea ?
Thanks
E



Are you using labels? More importantly, are you creating a new file at each
label?

Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer

[jim scott]

On 1/12/07, jim scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On 1/12/07, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Salut jim,
>
> > Thanks for the link. That's the fix I've been using. The fix works for
> > Cinelerra and ffmpeg, but doesn't work with mplayer/mencoder.
> Yes, it works for mplayer. For mencode I don't know.
>
> Sylvain.
>



The fix works great for me in Cinelerra, but my version of mplayer refuses
to show the full picture. Cinelerra and ffplay show the full picture, but
mplayer just shows the top left quarter. I'm using:
mplayer-1.0-58_r21812.fc6.at

If I find a place to post a 5 MB test file, is anyone willing to test it?

Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer

[jim scott]

On 1/12/07, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Salut jim,

> Thanks for the link. That's the fix I've been using. The fix works for
> Cinelerra and ffmpeg, but doesn't work with mplayer/mencoder.
Yes, it works for mplayer. For mencode I don't know.

Sylvain.



I'll double-check my file this afternoon. Thanks.

Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer

[jim scott]

On 1/12/07, Marcin Kostur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey

It is a known error with wrong header in MP4 in Xacti etc.

Fix is here: http://paramoteur.fr.free.fr/datas/perso/

the best

Marcin



Thanks for the link. That's the fix I've been using. The fix works for
Cinelerra and ffmpeg, but doesn't work with mplayer/mencoder.

Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer

[jim scott]

On 1/12/07, Marcin Kostur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hey

Sorry, one "shift too much"
it should read: `basename $i MP4`avi or `basename $i .MP4`.avi

I use mencoder ONLY because i got used to its command line params.
The job is done by libdv anyway.

the best

Marcin




This has been a frustrating day.  If I do the conversion with ffmpeg, it
complains about DRM in the audio stream. I hope I can fix that by compiling
a different version of the faac and faad2 libraries.

If I do the conversion with mencoder, I only get the top left quarter of the
original video scaled up to 720x480. mencoder thinks my 640x480 mpeg-4 video
is actually 320x240. I had the same problem in Cinelerra when I first
started using my Olympus C770 camera, but someone on the list pointed me to
a simple bash script which modified 4 bytes in the file header so that
Cinelerra handled the video properly. I've run the script and Cinelerra
handles the video properly, but mencoder still thinks the video is 1/4 of
the actual size. Any idea on why mencoder would see a different file size
than Cinelerra and ffmpeg?

Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer

[jim scott]

On 1/12/07, Marcin Kostur < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> for i in *MP4; do mencoder  -mc 0 -noskip $i -ovc libdv -oac pcm -vf
> scale=720:576 -o `basename $i MP$`avi;done
>
> ___
> Cinelerra mailing list
> Cinelerra@skolelinux.no
> https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra




I've typically used ffmpeg for these kind of conversions. Does mencoder do a
better job with DV? Frankly, I've never really understood the difference
between ffmpeg and mencoder, since they seem to be based on the same
libraries but with lots of different switches.

Re: [CinCVS] [Bug 364] Quicktime read error / No display on viewer

[jim scott]

On 1/11/07, Marcin Kostur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi

I am glad to see that I am not only one who
noticed that 2.1 cannot properly play almost no GOP-based data!
Fortunately i found workaround for mpeg2(hdv) files and basically i do not
care about the rest.

For mp4 files - i recommend converting to DV - i did it with my xacti
files and
it seemed to be a good solution.

Also i use in HDV workflow mjpeg files - are also nice for editing. One
problem
is that fade transition works badly in Alpha enabled profile (all turns
black).
  Funny annoyance ;-) I will post a bug once




What do you recommend for converting to DV? ffmpeg?

Re: [CinCVS] [WANTED] English native speakers to proof read the manual

[jim scott]

It's a great manual. Thanks for putting it together.

On 1/1/07, Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks Jim,

Your changes were commited in edition 0.80.EN (and some changes were
done in 0.80.FR too to reflect what you did).

Now, half of the manual is proof-read. =)

Nicolas Maufrais.

On Mon, Jan 01, 2007 at 02:43:12PM -0600, jim scott wrote:
> On 12/19/06, Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 09:30:28PM -0700, Joe Friedrichsen wrote:
> >> Thanks for dividing the work! Here is my part, which read quite well
> >> since it had large portions from Heroine's plugin-contributing docs.
> >>
> >> I'm curious how the docs are published - are any parts governed by a
> >> wiki? Parts of mine included troubleshooting, shortcuts, and guides
> >> for cinelerra, and allowing users to contribute their secrets would
be
> >> helpful as well.
> >
> >Hello Joe,
> >
> >Thank you very much! I wait till all the parts are proof-read, and I
> >commit your work. =)
> >
> >As regards to the docs, there's a wiki which is planned. In fact, it's
> >already available, in a "beta-test" state. It will contain the English
> >manual, allowing people to easily contribute.
> >
> >Nicolas.
> >
>
> Here are my changes to part 2. I learned a lot just by reading this
section.
> Great job!

> --- cincv_man_en_ed067_part_2.texi2007-01-01 13:22:27.0-0600
> +++ cincv_man_en_ed067_part_2 (copy).texi 2007-01-01 14:38:
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Re: [CinCVS] [WANTED] English native speakers to proof read the manual

[jim scott]

On 12/19/06, Nicolas Maufrais <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


On Sat, Dec 16, 2006 at 09:30:28PM -0700, Joe Friedrichsen wrote:
> Thanks for dividing the work! Here is my part, which read quite well
> since it had large portions from Heroine's plugin-contributing docs.
>
> I'm curious how the docs are published - are any parts governed by a
> wiki? Parts of mine included troubleshooting, shortcuts, and guides
> for cinelerra, and allowing users to contribute their secrets would be
> helpful as well.

Hello Joe,

Thank you very much! I wait till all the parts are proof-read, and I
commit your work. =)

As regards to the docs, there's a wiki which is planned. In fact, it's
already available, in a "beta-test" state. It will contain the English
manual, allowing people to easily contribute.

Nicolas.



Here are my changes to part 2. I learned a lot just by reading this section.
Great job!
--- cincv_man_en_ed067_part_2.texi  2007-01-01 13:22:27.0 -0600
+++ cincv_man_en_ed067_part_2 (copy).texi   2007-01-01 14:38:21.0 
-0600
@@ -12,9 +12,9 @@
 
 Hitting the @key{l} key has the same effect as the label button.
 
-If you hit the label button when a region is highlighted, two labels are
-toggled at each end of the highlighted region.  If one end already has a label,
-then the existing label is deleted and a label is created at the opposite end.
+If you hit the label button when a region is highlighted, labels are
+created at each end of the highlighted region.  However, if one end already 
has a label,
+then the existing label is deleted.
 
 Labels can reposition the insertion point when they are selected but they can
 also be traversed with the @image{manual_images_en/label_traversal,15mm} 
@b{label
@@ -36,10 +36,10 @@
 the next label.
 
 Manually hitting the label button or @key{l} key over and over again to delete
-a series of labels can get tedious.  For deleting a set of labels, first
-highlight a region and second use the @b{Edit->Clear labels} function.  If
+a series of labels can get tedious.  To delete a set of labels, first
+highlight a region. Second, use the @b{Edit->Clear labels} function.  If
 in/out points exist, the labels between the in/out points are cleared and the
-highlighted region ignored.
+highlighted region is ignored.
 
 @b{Editing or locking labels from moving:} @*
 In @b{Cut and Paste} editing mode only, by enabling "Edit labels" in the
@@ -49,7 +49,7 @@
 Similarly, if a selected area of a resource is spliced from the viewer to the
 timeline in a position before labels, these labels will be pushed to the right
 on the timebar for the length of the selected area. @*
-To lock labels from moving from their position on the timebar, just disable the
+To prevent labels from moving on the timebar, just disable the
 "Edit labels" option or enable the 
@image{manual_images_en/locklabels_unlocked,5mm}
 @b{"Lock labels from moving"} button. @*
 In @b{Drag and Drop} editing mode labels will be always locked to the timebar,
@@ -116,8 +116,8 @@
 All tracks have an @b{expander} 
@image{manual_images_en/expandpatch_checked,5mm} for
 viewing more options and for viewing the effects on the track.  Click on the
 expander to expand or collapse the track.  If it is pointing sideways, the
-track is collapsed.  If it is pointing down, the track is expanded.  The
-effects appear below the media for the track if they exist.
+track is collapsed.  If it is pointing down, the track is expanded.  Existing
+effects appear below the media for the track.
 
 All tracks have the following row of toggles for several features.
 
@@ -218,7 +218,7 @@
 fake stereo, or compensating for an effect which shifts time, all without
 tampering with any edits.
 
-Merely enter in the amount of time to shift by to instantly shift the track.
+Merely enter the amount of time to shift to instantly shift the track.
 Negative numbers make the track play later.  Positive numbers make the track
 play sooner.  The nudge units are either @b{seconds} or the native units for
 the track.  Select the units by @b{right clicking} on the nudge textbox and
@@ -234,8 +234,8 @@
 @cindex Panning tracks
 @cindex Tracks, panning
 
-Audio tracks have a panning box in their patchbay.  It may have to be expanded
-to see it.  The panning box is shown here.
+Audio tracks have a panning box in their patchbays.  A patchbay may have to be 
expanded
+to see the panning box.  The panning box is shown here.
 
 @center @image{manual_images_en/apatches}
 @center @b{Pan and nudge for an audio track}
@@ -297,8 +297,8 @@
 
 Tracks in Cinelerra either contain audio or video.  There is no special
 designation for tracks other than the type of media they contain.  When you
-create a new project, it contains a certain number of default tracks.  You can
-still add or delete tracks from a number of menus.  The @b{Tracks} menu
+create a new project, it contains a number of default tracks.  You can
+still add or delete tracks from the menus.  The @b{Tracks} me

Re: [CinCVS] FC5 x86_64 Cinelerra build problems

[jim scott]

Looks like you don't  have any repositories configured for yum.

On 1/1/07, Raena Lea-Shannon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


No luck?
This is yum 2.4.0 SHould I upgrade or is the repository down?

sudo yum -y install cinelerra
Setting up Install ProcessSetting up repositories
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Re: [CinCVS] [WANTED] English native speakers to proof read the manual

[jim scott]

Me, too. Let's let each other know which parts we are looking at so we don't
duplicate our efforts, okay?

On 12/13/06, Scott C. Frase <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Nicolas,
I will try to help you out with this over the next couple of weeks.
scott

On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 21:45 +0100, Nicolas Maufrais wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Could Enlish native speakers proof read the manual? I'm sure it contains
> a lot of English mistakes, and you would probably easily correct them.
>
> The manual is available from the Cinelerra CV website:
> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs.php
>
> The best way to help me is to fetch the texinfo file, which is the
> "source" of the manual:
> http://cvs.cinelerra.org/docs/cincv_man_en_ed067.texi
>
> It's a pure text file, which can be easily edited. Don't worry about
> messing the texinfo commands, just correct the mistakes or reformulate
> some sentences, and I'll copy them in the next edition.
>
> Thank you very much.
> Nicolas Maufrais.
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Re: [CinCVS] Merge of 2.1 completed!

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Thanks to everyone who worked on the merge! I'll be checking this out as soon as possible.On 9/7/06, Johannes Sixt <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Subject says it all. Awaiting your feedback.
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Re: [CinCVS] Mpeg2 encoding

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I think the spec is around 1 for video + audio. If you're using AC3 audio at 128 kbps, you should be able to go 9800 kbps for video.On 8/7/06, Dimitrios
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:17:46 +0800 Graham Evans <
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Re: [CinCVS] Mpeg2 encoding

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Graham,I think you do have to change the defaults for mpeg2video encoding to get any output. I agreed that setting the fixed bitrate should work. Fixed quantization doesn't seem to work.
On 8/7/06, Graham Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 8/7/06, *Dimitrios* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  [EMAIL PROTECTED]>>> wrote: On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:15:38 +1000 Vaughan Famularo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:>> > I am trying to render from the timeline to an Mpeg2 Video file.
> > I am using the standard DVD settings in the Video rendering gui.>> as amazing as it seems, cinelerra doesn't support DVD compatible> MPEG-2 output.>> you need to save to another format and then use another application to
> do the conversion.jim scott wrote:> I don't think that's the case. There are two ways to produce DVD> compatible MPEG-2 output through Cinelerra. The easiest way is the
> mpeg2enc plugin. If you copied the mpeg2enc binary from /usr/bin to> /usr/lib/cinelerra, you're almost there. You need to make sure that> the file is named mpeg2enc.plugin in the cinelerra directory. If that
> doesn't work, try posting the exact error message you are getting.>The method you mention Jim worked for me.  I have found the defaultCinelerra settings for MPEG-2 at fault however.Settings which work for me in producing DVD which will play well on my
TV are:YUV 4:2:0Generic MPEG-2MPEG-21 fixed bitrateQuantization 12 (an unused setting)I frame distance 45P frame distance 0The field flag depends on your source materialProgressive frames will generally be unchecked
The denoiser works but is optionalI don't check "Sequence start codes in every GOP"I seem to remember that some really logical choices like "Format Preset:DVD" led to render errors.  For me the options given above worked and I
generally only fiddle with the Bitrate.Of course you will need to render your audio seperately and then mplexthe streams together.  There is plenty of information around on how todo this.good luck
Graham E.> A second way to get mpeg2 video is to render to a pipe and let ffmpeg> do the work. There is a preset for this in the render dialog. ffmpeg> can be 40% faster than mpeg2enc, though the quality is typically
> lower. As a matter of practice, I use ffmpeg to render 'snapshots' and> rough cuts, then mpeg2enc to produce my final video.>> On 8/7/06, *Dimitrios* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [CinCVS] Mpeg2 encoding

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I don't think that's the case. There are two ways to produce DVD compatible MPEG-2 output through Cinelerra. The easiest way is the mpeg2enc plugin. If you copied the mpeg2enc binary from /usr/bin to /usr/lib/cinelerra, you're almost there. You need to make sure that the file is named 
mpeg2enc.plugin in the cinelerra directory. If that doesn't work, try posting the exact error message you are getting.A second way to get mpeg2 video is to render to a pipe and let ffmpeg do the work. There is a preset for this in the render dialog. ffmpeg can be 40% faster than mpeg2enc, though the quality is typically lower. As a matter of practice, I use ffmpeg to render 'snapshots' and rough cuts, then mpeg2enc to produce my final video.
On 8/7/06, Dimitrios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:15:38 +1000 Vaughan Famularo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I am trying to render from the timeline to an Mpeg2 Video file.
> I am using the standard DVD settings in the Video rendering gui.as amazing as it seems, cinelerra doesn't support DVD compatible MPEG-2 output.you need to save to another format and then use another application to do the conversion.
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Re: [CinCVS] about starting over...

[jim scott]

One problem is that the docs can be difficult to access. The "Secrets of Cinelerra" document can be difficult to load. The TWiki manual can also be down for days at a time. There's a lot of good information in both spots.
I use Cinelerra because it works better than all the other options I've tried. I've tried a copy of products from Ulead and even the XP Movie Maker. I've found Cinelerra to be more robust and stable than any of those products. Plus, I've found the people on this list to be very helpful and responsive.
The great thing about open source software is that anyone can contribute. This thread started with a complaint that could have been a contribution. If Cinelerra is crashing, contribute by filing a bug report. If something isn't working right, contribute by asking a question -- and by making sure any answer you get is included in the documentation. If you can code,  contribute by coding. 
On 7/31/06, Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello everybody,IMO, Cinelerra shouldn't be "rewritten" from the beginning. Cinelerra isone of the few *nix tools I really like. The others being vim, mutt,mjpeg, imagemagick, gimp and... the ksh tools.
Of course cinelerra isn't quite easy to start with. It's a NL videoeditor. Reading the doc is definitely a must.But as soon as you've read the doc, tried to understand how it works,and ask for help on this mailing list (what I did, BTW), then you
discover cinelerra is really well made. I mean, ok, it's not easy at thebeginning, but when you understand how it works, it's really quick, easyand powerful. And that is definitely the most important thing in my
opinion.Let's take the export window for example. It's possible to export anMJPEG stream, which can be encoded on the fly by the mjpegtools suite.OK, it can look a bit complicated at first, but believe me, when you'll
have a look at all the possibilities offered by the mjpegtools suite,you'll be very happy to be able to encode your videos with the settingsand the filters you need.I'd be really disppointed to see that marvellous program to be
progressively bloated with stuff like an interface made for idiots andsomething like a "Make you video wizard".Using a NL video editor needs patience and attention. You can't use a NLvideo editor as you use Kino for example.
What about your beginings in the Linux world? Did you install Linux andthen said it needs to be rewritten because it's too complicated?Rather than complaining about the way cinelerra is, what about asking
questions here? That would help you to start with cinelerra, and thenyou'd probably understand why it's made that way... I'm sure animportant part of people complaining about the cinelerra interface didnot spent more than 1 hour reading the doc...
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[CinCVS] Wavy Wayne's World effect

[jim scott]

Is it possible to do a vertical wavy lines effect in Cinelerra? I want to do a transition like Wayne's World, if people remember that. 

Re: [CinCVS] Build problem with Debian Sarge pure AMD64

[jim scott]

If this is the -fPIC error related to the libx264 libraries, then I grappled with it this weekend, as well. My fix was to download the libx264 source files and recompile them. Fairly painless.
On 7/4/06, Ben Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> I've tried different options in ./configure (nothing, enable-pic,> enable-static, mmx, 3dnow...), but i allways get this during make :Following up on this old post, I was able to get the current cinelerra
svn to build on Debian Sid AMD64 following these instructionshttps://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2005-October/004370.html
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Re: [CinCVS] Rendering reverse play video

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Thanks. Sorry to be so dense.On 7/1/06, Herman Robak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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[CinCVS] Rendering reverse play video

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Can Cinelerra render a video in reverse? I know I can use the transport controls to play video backwards, but I can't figure out how to render the backward playing video to a new file.

Re: [CinCVS] what utility for basic file info recommended?

[jim scott]

One option I don't recommend is ffmpeg -i  I find the report to be wrong quite often, especially duration. tcprobe -i works better, but the output can be confusing.On 6/29/06, 
Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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[CinCVS] Re: OT: rendering menus / found an answer

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Found an answer on this one. I'm a victim of television overscanning:"Therefore,
any image, be it video or graphics, that falls outside of what's call the
"Action Safe" area of the screen will tend to be cut off by the
television. This is approximately a 15% border around all four sides of the
actual video edge. The "Title Safe" area is approximately a 30% inward
area from all four side of the outer video edge."All my conversions were more or less correct -- I was just using too much of the screen.On 6/25/06, 
jim scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi all. I'm really struggling rendering DVD menus. Everything looks fine when I preview in Xine, but when I pop a DVD into my player, the menus are cut off horizontally. If I had to guess, I'd say that I'm losing 30 pixels on each side of the frame.
I'm staring off with a 720x480 sized JPG with 81x72 resolution. I've tried commandsl like:convert menu.jpg ppm:- | ppmtoy4m -n50 -F3:1001 -A10:11 -I p -r -S 420mpeg2 | mpeg2enc -n n -f8 -b9000 -a2 -o menu.m2v

andjpeg2yuv -n 50 -I p -f 29.97 -j menu.jpg | mpeg2enc -f 8 -o menu.m2vI've used Cinelerra to import my jpg, then render to m2v using both ffmpeg and mpeg2enc. I've used pipes and the builtig mpeg video render command. Always, the video looks fine in xine, but when I burn to a DVD (spumux and dvdauthor) and play it, the video looks distorted and the edges are cut off. I've made a bunch of slideshows with cinelerra and never had a similar problem. Any ideas what might be going on?


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[CinCVS] OT: rendering menus

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Hi all. I'm really struggling rendering DVD menus. Everything looks fine when I preview in Xine, but when I pop a DVD into my player, the menus are cut off horizontally. If I had to guess, I'd say that I'm losing 30 pixels on each side of the frame.
I'm staring off with a 720x480 sized JPG with 81x72 resolution. I've tried commandsl like:convert menu.jpg ppm:- | ppmtoy4m -n50 -F3:1001 -A10:11 -I p -r -S 420mpeg2 | mpeg2enc -n n -f8 -b9000 -a2 -o menu.m2v
andjpeg2yuv -n 50 -I p -f 29.97 -j menu.jpg | mpeg2enc -f 8 -o menu.m2vI've used Cinelerra to import my jpg, then render to m2v using both ffmpeg and mpeg2enc. I've used pipes and the builtig mpeg video render command. Always, the video looks fine in xine, but when I burn to a DVD (spumux and dvdauthor) and play it, the video looks distorted and the edges are cut off. I've made a bunch of slideshows with cinelerra and never had a similar problem. Any ideas what might be going on?

Re: [CinCVS] Re: Any recommended x86_64 distribution for using cinelerra?

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I think the question came up because Cinelerra was broken for someone in FC 4.On 6/6/06, Dimitrios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: [CinCVS] Any recommended x86_64 distribution for using cinelerra?

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I also use FC5 X86_64 without problems. I have used both the freshrpms.net packages and built from the SVN respository without problems.On 6/6/06, 
Dimitrios <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On Tue, 6 Jun 2006 11:16:56 +0200 "Helge Nert" <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I have had huge problems getting cinelerra to work on my FC4 x86_64> platform.I'm still learning cinelerra, but i haven't had any problems related to the distribution. I'm using Fedora Core 5 x86_64 with the latest RPM packages of cinelerra published by 
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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra Wiki unreliable.

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Thanks for maintaining the wiki, Alex. It's full of good information.On 6/5/06, Alex Ferrer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I also agree that the wiki as it is is unreliable.(BTW, this is alex the wiki mantainer)
The wiki has definetly outgrown it's current location, and the cableconnection will no longer do.The good news is that I am in the process of moving it to a new localhost that has several T1's available.
The bad news is that I am quite busy so it might take me a couple ofweeks.Regarding a change on the Wiki software, in the past I received severalsugestions for moving the wiki to hosts with other wiki servers. The
problem with this, is that the wiki markup is completly different dfromwiki to wiki and it would IMHO be a lot of work to move.Right now the main issues with wikis, is keeping spam out of it, asspamer get creative on ways to put junk on it.
Anyway, that is a status update.> --> http://ThreeWayNews.blogspot.com> Your source. For everything. Really.>> --=_Part_38757_77645.1149520296845
> Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit> Content-Disposition: inline> I agree that the current wiki is hard to access and always slow. There's a lot of good information there that I think we should keep.On 6/5/06, Silvano Galliani (kysucix)
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]">[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi cinelerra-cv lovers :)> Talking with hermanro we agreed about the need of a wiki to write downtips, video done with our favourite app ;) and all the juicy stuffpassing silently on this ml and hardly recoverable with mailing listarchive.
> So I just created a sample page on http://dyne.org">dyne.org wiki:As for the manual we could switch to http://www.flossmanuals.net">http://www.flossmanuals.netIt's a wiki based on wiki and ready to host floss manual.
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Re: [CinCVS] wiki and manual, wiki on manual

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I agree that the current wiki is hard to access and always slow. There's a lot of good information there that I think we should keep.On 6/5/06, Silvano Galliani (kysucix)
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Hi cinelerra-cv lovers :)
Talking with hermanro we agreed about the need of a wiki to write downtips, video done with our favourite app ;) and all the juicy stuffpassing silently on this ml and hardly recoverable with mailing listarchive.
So I just created a sample page on dyne.org wiki:As for the manual we could switch to http://www.flossmanuals.netIt's a wiki based on wiki and ready to host floss manual.
Who can switch to it? The current one isn't reliable at all :|What do you think?bye :)kysucix___Cinelerra mailing list
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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra SVN build with FC5/X.org X11 R7.0

[jim scott]

Yes. I installed the libX* devel packages and cinelerra built just fine. Thanks.On 5/28/06, William Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:I think it is :)jim scott wrote:> Thanks. Maybe I'm missing some of the libX*-devel packages. I think I
> yum'd for libx. Don't know if that's case sensitive or not.>> On 5/28/06, *William Witt* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:>> I'm running FC5 and don't remember having problems with xorg-devel> building 799, here's what I have (probably more than you need...):>> 
bash-3.1$ rpm -qa | grep devel| grep -i x> libXpm-devel-3.5.4.2-2.2> Xaw3d-devel-1.5E-6.2.2> libxfcegui4-devel-4.2.3-4.fc5> libXfixes-devel-3.0.1.2-2.2> libXcomposite-devel-0.2.2.2-2.2
> gettext-devel-0.14.5-3> libXcursor-devel-1.1.5.2-2.2> libXxf86vm-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXTrap-devel-1.0.0-2.2> xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.0-6> libxfce4util-devel-4.2.3.2-2.fc5
> expat-devel-1.95.8-8.2> libXrandr-devel-1.1.0.2-2.2> libXevie-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libxslt-devel-1.1.15-1.2.1> libXScrnSaver-devel-1.0.1-1.2> xine-lib-devel-1.1.1-9.lvn5
> gtk+extra-devel-2.1.1-2.fc5> libXmu-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXi-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXtst-devel-1.0.1-1.2> libxml2-devel-2.6.23-1.2> libxfce4mcs-devel-4.2.3-5.fc5
> unixODBC-devel-2.2.11-6.2.1> wxGTK-devel-2.6.3-2.6.3.2.1.fc5> libXinerama-devel-1.0.1-1.2> libXres-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXt-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXvMC-devel-1.0.1-3
> libselinux-devel-1.30-1.fc5> blackbox-devel-0.70.1-4.fc5> libXau-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXxf86dga-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXrender-devel-0.9.0.2-3.2> libXft-devel-2.1.8.2-3.2
> libXfont-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXdmcp-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXxf86misc-devel-1.0.0-2.2> libXfontcache-devel-1.0.1-1.2> libX11-devel-1.0.0-3> libXext-devel-1.0.0-3.2
> xfce-mcs-manager-devel-4.2.3-2.fc5> x264-devel-0.0.0-0.1.svn468.fc5> totem-xine-devel-1.4.0-1.lvn5> libXv-devel-1.0.1-1.2> libXdamage-devel-1.0.2.2-2.2> 
libXaw-devel-1.0.1-1.2> xorg-x11-xtrans-devel-1.0.0-3.2> OpenEXR-devel-1.2.2-7.fc5>>>> jim scott wrote:> > Has anyone had any problems building from the latest SVN source
> > against Fedora Core 5?  I'm getting an error stating that I need to> > install xlib-devel or xorg-devel. I've installed all the xorg-*> > packages for Fedora Core 5, but I still get the error.  (yum install
> > xorg*)> >> > In FC4 I installed xorg-x11-devel-6.8, but FC5/xorg 7.0 doesn't have> > such a package. Anyone know if there is a specific xorg package> I need
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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra slideshow error when mplexing rendered audio and video

[jim scott]

I added the -r flag to mplex. 1 should have been sufficient, but for some reason I had to go to:mplex -f 8 -r 25000 -o kidfun.mpg kidfun.ac3 kidfun.m2vmplex worked without complaint. I burned a DVD with dvdauthor, so the project was successful.
I have no explanation why my bitrate would be so high.On 5/28/06, Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 06:48:41AM -0500, jim scott wrote:> I've got a really basic slideshow in Cinelerra, rendered to m2v and ac3.
> When I mplex the files:>> mplex -f 8 -o kidfun.mpg kidfun.ac3 kidfun.m2v>> I get a string of sync errors:>> ++ WARN: [mplex] Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=151259
> required(DTS)=151157> ++ WARN: [mplex] Audio bd: buf=  14237 frame=74 sector=0019> ++ WARN: [mplex] Video e0: buf= 130520 frame=46 sector=0845> ++ WARN: [mplex] Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=195145
> required(DTS)=193199>> The slideshow comes at the end of some home video I edited together. I can> render and mplex that part of the project without error, but as soon as I> add the still frames, mplex errors out. Any ideas?
>> (I've tried to check the wiki StillImage page, but that seems to be down> right now)Hello,I don't know which mpeg2enc parameters are used by cinelerra (I use mympeg2enc shell script which convert the YUV4MPEG stream using a pipe).
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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra SVN build with FC5/X.org X11 R7.0

[jim scott]

Thanks. Maybe I'm missing some of the libX*-devel packages. I think I yum'd for libx. Don't know if that's case sensitive or not.
On 5/28/06, William Witt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I'm running FC5 and don't remember having problems with xorg-develbuilding 799, here's what I have (probably more than you need...):
bash-3.1$ rpm -qa | grep devel| grep -i xlibXpm-devel-3.5.4.2-2.2Xaw3d-devel-1.5E-6.2.2libxfcegui4-devel-4.2.3-4.fc5libXfixes-devel-3.0.1.2-2.2libXcomposite-devel-0.2.2.2-2.2gettext-devel-0.14.5-3
libXcursor-devel-1.1.5.2-2.2libXxf86vm-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXTrap-devel-1.0.0-2.2xorg-x11-proto-devel-7.0-6libxfce4util-devel-4.2.3.2-2.fc5expat-devel-1.95.8-8.2libXrandr-devel-1.1.0.2-2.2libXevie-devel-1.0.0-2.2
libxslt-devel-1.1.15-1.2.1libXScrnSaver-devel-1.0.1-1.2xine-lib-devel-1.1.1-9.lvn5gtk+extra-devel-2.1.1-2.fc5libXmu-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXi-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXtst-devel-1.0.1-1.2libxml2-devel-2.6.23-1.2
libxfce4mcs-devel-4.2.3-5.fc5unixODBC-devel-2.2.11-6.2.1wxGTK-devel-2.6.3-2.6.3.2.1.fc5libXinerama-devel-1.0.1-1.2libXres-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXt-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXvMC-devel-1.0.1-3libselinux-devel-1.30-1.fc5
blackbox-devel-0.70.1-4.fc5libXau-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXxf86dga-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXrender-devel-0.9.0.2-3.2libXft-devel-2.1.8.2-3.2libXfont-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXdmcp-devel-1.0.0-2.2libXxf86misc-devel-1.0.0-2.2
libXfontcache-devel-1.0.1-1.2libX11-devel-1.0.0-3libXext-devel-1.0.0-3.2xfce-mcs-manager-devel-4.2.3-2.fc5x264-devel-0.0.0-0.1.svn468.fc5totem-xine-devel-1.4.0-1.lvn5libXv-devel-1.0.1-1.2libXdamage-devel-1.0.2.2-2.2
libXaw-devel-1.0.1-1.2xorg-x11-xtrans-devel-1.0.0-3.2OpenEXR-devel-1.2.2-7.fc5jim scott wrote:> Has anyone had any problems building from the latest SVN source> against Fedora Core 5?  I'm getting an error stating that I need to
> install xlib-devel or xorg-devel. I've installed all the xorg-*> packages for Fedora Core 5, but I still get the error.  (yum install> xorg*)>> In FC4 I installed xorg-x11-devel-6.8, but FC5/xorg 
7.0 doesn't have> such a package. Anyone know if there is a specific xorg package I need> to install? Or is the Cinelerra build process not compatible with xorg> 7.0? Thanks.___
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[CinCVS] Cinelerra SVN build with FC5/X.org X11 R7.0

[jim scott]

Has anyone had any problems building from the latest SVN source against Fedora Core 5?  I'm getting an error stating that I need to install xlib-devel or xorg-devel. I've installed all the xorg-* packages for Fedora Core 5, but I still get the error.  (yum install xorg*)

 
In FC4 I installed xorg-x11-devel-6.8, but FC5/xorg 7.0 doesn't have such a package. Anyone know if there is a specific xorg package I need to install? Or is the Cinelerra build process not compatible with xorg 7.0? Thanks.

Re: [CinCVS] simple conversion script

[jim scott]

Here's what I use:#!/usr/bin/env python## change bytes at positions 240, 244, 441# change 2 bytes at 240 from 01 40 to 02 80# change 2 bytes at 244 from 00 f0 to 01 e0 # change 4 bytes at 441 from 02 80 01 30 to 01 40 00 f0
"""badcamera.pyrun without arguments to change all the mp4 files in a directoryso that they report the correct size"""import globimport getoptimport sys
class FileList:    def __init__( self ):            self.List = glob.glob("*.[mM][pP]4")class FileEditor:    def __init__( self, aFileList ):                self.List = aFileList                
self.bs = (1,1,1)                self.count = (2,2,4)                self.seek = (240,244,441)                self.skip = (0,2,0)    def Run( self ):                for fname in 
self.List:                    print "processing file %s" % fname                    f = file( fname, 'r+b')                    f.seek( 240 )                    f.write(chr(2))                    
f.write(chr(128))                    f.seek( 244 )                    f.write( chr( 1 ) )                    f.write( chr( 224 ) )                    f.seek( 441 )                    f.write( chr( 1 ) )
                    f.write( chr( 64 ) )                    f.write( chr( 0 ) )                    f.write( chr( 240 ) )                    f.close()                    def main():    # parse command line options
    try:        opts, args = getopt.getopt(sys.argv[1:], "h", ["help"])    except getopt.error, msg:        print msg        print "for help use --help"        sys.exit
(2)    # process options    for o, a in opts:        if o in ("-h", "--help"):            print __doc__            sys.exit(0)    # process arguments    #for arg in args:
    #    process(arg) # process() is defined elsewhere        aFileList = FileList()    aFileEditor = FileEditor( aFileList.List )    aFileEditor.Run()if __name__ == '__main__':    main()
On 4/30/06, muzzol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
En/na Herman Robak ha escrit:>  Do you REALLY want to recode the stream, if only the header is wrong?> I would have tried a streamcopy first, just to fix the container:>>  ffmpeg -i prova.avi -acodec copy -vcodec copy 
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Re: [CinCVS] Cinelerra slideshow error when mplexing rendered audio and video

[jim scott]

I'm using the built-in conversion to mpeg-2 video. My video is 9500 kbps and my audio is 128 kbps ac3.I'm thinking now that this is an audio rendering issue. I'm combing some mpeg-4 audio with WAV audio to form the ac3 stream. When I opened my m2v video and ac3 audio as a new Cinelerra project, the audio was 28 seconds shorter than I expected. (5:01 instead of 5:29)
On 5/28/06, Nicolas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Sun, May 28, 2006 at 06:48:41AM -0500, jim scott wrote:> I've got a really basic slideshow in Cinelerra, rendered to m2v and ac3.> When I mplex the files:>> mplex -f 8 -o kidfun.mpg kidfun.ac3
 kidfun.m2v>> I get a string of sync errors:>> ++ WARN: [mplex] Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=151259> required(DTS)=151157> ++ WARN: [mplex] Audio bd: buf=  14237 frame=74 sector=0019
> ++ WARN: [mplex] Video e0: buf= 130520 frame=46 sector=0845> ++ WARN: [mplex] Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=195145> required(DTS)=193199>> The slideshow comes at the end of some home video I edited together. I can
> render and mplex that part of the project without error, but as soon as I> add the still frames, mplex errors out. Any ideas?>> (I've tried to check the wiki StillImage page, but that seems to be down
> right now)Hello,I don't know which mpeg2enc parameters are used by cinelerra (I use mympeg2enc shell script which convert the YUV4MPEG stream using a pipe).However, doesn't that error appear when bitrates used are too high?
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[CinCVS] Cinelerra slideshow error when mplexing rendered audio and video

[jim scott]

I've got a really basic slideshow in Cinelerra, rendered to m2v and ac3. When I mplex the files: mplex -f 8 -o kidfun.mpg kidfun.ac3 kidfun.m2vI get a string of sync errors:++ WARN: [mplex] Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=151259 required(DTS)=151157
++ WARN: [mplex] Audio bd: buf=  14237 frame=74 sector=0019++ WARN: [mplex] Video e0: buf= 130520 frame=46 sector=0845++ WARN: [mplex] Stream e0: data will arrive too late sent(SCR)=195145 required(DTS)=193199
The slideshow comes at the end of some home video I edited together. I can render and mplex that part of the project without error, but as soon as I add the still frames, mplex errors out. Any ideas?(I've tried to check the wiki StillImage page, but that seems to be down right now)

Re: [CinCVS] how to do slitsreens in cine?

[jim scott]

That's a great tip, Joe. Thanks!On 5/25/06, Joe Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thursday 25 May 2006 10:29, Graham Evans wrote:> Use camera automation (pan x pan y and zoom z) to pick up the screen> segment you want from your footage tracks and use projector> automation (pan x pan y and zoom z again) to place those parts onto
> the render screen.  You can project multiple tracks onto different> parts of the render.If you don't need to do any kind of cropping of the scenes you aresplit-screening/etc you can use the Translate plugin to move/resize
each track to where you want it in the output frame. It's a little morestraightfoward than using camera/projector automation - you can specifyposition/scale of each track by x:y w:h instead of having to tweak the
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Re: [CinCVS] quicktime movies "portrait" orientation

[jim scott]

720x576 means 720 pixels across and 576 pixels vertically. I think that's the PAL DVD standard. I'm NTSC, which is 720x480. On 4/29/06, Heather Buch <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi,  My cinelerra projects have a frame size of 720x576, with an aspect ratio of 4:3. Does this mean 720 length x 576 width? The finished quicktime films (and the compositor previews) appear tall and narrow, a "portrait" orientation. I would like them to have a "landscape" orientation (wider and shorter) instead. So far, I  have found no way of doing this in the "format" panel. I looked around the "secrets" document (and read much of it) but could not find an answer.
  Maybe it's relevant to mention that I am working with DVD's burned from an analog video camera, so I'm using TOC files.  Thanks in advance!  Heather Buch
 
	
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Re: [CinCVS] simple conversion script

[jim scott]

What problem are you having in cinelerra?I had a problem with my 640x480 MP4s shot with an Olympus C770. Cinelerra only displayed the top 1/4 of the video. This was because the file reported its size as 320x240. Other players struggled with the format, too.
Someone on the list had a bash script that fixed this. I modified that into a python script that I've been using to convert files.On 4/26/06, muzzol
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:hi!
i just wanna share this little script to convert canon generated videosto something that cinelerra can read correctly.i own a canon powershot a70 and i can record 320x240 and 640x480 videos.it seems that canon uses an extrange codec/container mixing so cinelerra
can't read it.i found this simple settings to convert those videos to mov:ffmpeg -i prova.avi -b 5000 -r 25 -ac 2 -ar 44100 prova.movso finally i wrote this script:###
#!/bin/bashDIR="$1"[ "$DIR" == "" ] && DIR=.for i in $DIR/* ; doffmpeg -i "$i" -b 5000 -r 25 -ac 2 -ar 44100 "${i%.*}".movdone
###you can pass a directory as argument to process all videos in that dir.obviously you need ffmpeg to use it.i hope this can help anyone.
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Re: [CinCVS] Re: splicing always overwrites, never appends

[jim scott]

Have you tried reducing the scale on the x-axis? If the scale is something like 4 minutes and your video is 15 seconds, you might only see one frame, I think.On 4/20/06, 
Heather Buch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Yes, I always use the "v" key. But after successfully rendering a QT film yesterday (hurra!), I saw that all of my clips were included. So I can use the "v" key to piece multiple clips together. However, while editing my main Cinelerra timeline just shows one thumbnail at any given time. They don't spread out horizontally across the timeline as I paste them using "v". Is there a way to make this happen?
Thanks,HeatherFrom: Andraz Tori To: cinelerra@skolelinux.noDate: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:22:45 +0200
Reply-To: cinelerra@skolelinux.no
use pasting instead of splicing... "v" key...byeandrazOn sre, 2006-04-19 at 05:28 -0700, Heather Buch wrote:> I am having problem splicing clips in Cinelerra. Using two-screen> editing, I can put one clip into my
 timeline. However, subsequent> clips only overwrite the first.  No matter how many clips I "splice"> down to the main window (timeline), I never see more than one (the> most recent). Therefore, I cannot string together a series of clips.
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Re: [CinCVS] Pb with audio synchro when rendering

[jim scott]

In mplayer use the '+' and '-' keys to change a/v offset. When you find the proper offset, feed that value directly to mplex. The value might be positive or negative.You can also do this with ffmpeg, but I've always had better luck with mplex.
On 3/28/06, Pierre Dumuid <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



  
  


Try the mplex -O option to fix these sorts of problems:

-O|--sync-offset num 
  Set the presentation timestamp offset of video stream w.r.t.
audio
stream (video-audio) in mSec.   This flag is used to produce a stream
with synchronised
audio/video when one stream started before/after the other.  This is
common
when transcoding as the synchronisation information is typically lost
during
the (seperate) decoding/encoding of audio and video.

To find an appropriate offset sync, you may find appropriate keys in
both mplayer and xine to change the playback sync, and once found use
this as your offset, (I find that mplayer takes a few minutes to settle
down when the offset is adjusted where the "settling down" offset may
be viewed in the terminal mplayer was run from...)

Pierre

Régis Guyomarch wrote:

  Currently I don't want to edit the mpeg I just want to render an mpeg for dvd form a quicktime dv file. If I open the file with an other player ( mplayer ) the audio is not synchronized as well.  

  
Hi Regis,I had this problem, and developed a patch for it (see
https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2005-December/0048
80.html ). but wasn't happy enough to apply it (see
https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2005-December/0049

71.html ). as I am getting issues with video.

Currently I use the patch all the time, (note you'll have to re-make the
toc files!) as it fixes up the audio for all my mpeg returning the
correct number of frames.  But I don't know mpeg files well enough to
know completly the whole issue...

I personally see the libmpeg side of cinelerra fairly broken, though for
the mpeg that I edit, (from a Panansonic dvd recorder) it seems to work
so long as I don't play the last frame!  (because libmpeg writes in the
toc file that there is 1 more frame than actually is for the video I
use...)

If you/anyone could nut out what is going on I would really appreciate it!

Pierre

Régis Guyomarch wrote:


  Hello, I'm trying to render a mov file in mpeg. I render a YUV4MPEG with mpeg2enc's DVD default settings. I render audio with Audio MPEG ( II 224 ) I mplex the mpeg and the audio isn't synchronized anymore.
 If I load the mpeg in cinelerra I can see that the video has the writeduration ( 10 sec. in that test ) but the audio is longer ( 13.16 sec. ).The part of the audio which is longer than the video is a silence.
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Re: [CinCVS] "error rendering data" w/ YUV4MPEG Stream & ffmpeg

[jim scott]

I don't think the current version of ffmpeg supports the '-hq' option. Try removing that from your parameter list.On 3/28/06, Jan Luo <
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hi, 

trying to render a .mov file with cinelerra-cvs-20060219 on
gentoo-2.6.15-r7/x86_64
as described in the "Beginners Guide to export video from Cinelerra"
with YUV4MPEG Stream
as file format &  ffmpeg  i only get "error rendering data".
this is the shell output:


trying popen( ffmpeg -f yuv4mpegpipe -i
- -y -target dvd -ilme -ildct -hq -f mpeg2video
/home/jan/VIDEO/Britney_2803.m2v)
FFmpeg version CVS, Copyright (c) 2000-2004 Fabrice Bellard
  configuration:  --prefix=/usr --mandir=/usr/share/man
--disable-static --enable-shared --cc=x86_64-pc-linux-gnu-gcc
--extra-ldflags= --disable-altivec --disable-debug --disable-audio-oss
--disable-v4l --disable-v4l2 --disable-dv1394 --disable-network
--disable-opts --enable-mp3lame --enable-gpl --enable-pp --disable-strip
  libavutil version: 49.0.0
  libavcodec version: 51.7.0
  libavformat version: 50.3.0
  built on Mar 23 2006 01:26:33, gcc: 3.4.4 (Gentoo 3.4.4-r1,
ssp-3.4.4-1.0, pie-8.7.8)
Input #0, yuv4mpegpipe, from 'pipe:':
  Duration: N/A, bitrate: N/A
  Stream #0.0, 29.97 fps(r): Video: rawvideo, yuv420p, 320x240
Assuming NTSC for target.
ffmpeg: unrecognized option '-hq'
Received sigpipe
write_frame() failed: system error (failed read/write)
Received sigpipe
write_frame() failed: system error (failed read/write)
  

am new to cinelerra ;-) ,
thanks for any suggestions!

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Re: [CinCVS] Keep tracks in the timeline in current position

[jim scott]

If I understand what you are doing, I think you should just paste silence instead of cutting or deleting from the audio.On 3/25/06, Bernhard Frühmesser
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Am 25.03.2006
 um 22:44 schrieb jim scott:> You say you have two video clips in the time line. Are they separate> tracks or in the same track?Both clips are in the same track, between both clips is a "slide-effect"
> Any delete you do will affect all the armed tracks, but shouldn't> affect any of the unarmed tracks. Are the tracks that you want to have> stay in place armed?The audio part is armed as if it wouldn´t be armed i wouldn´t be able
to delete the audio of the first clip. But after deleting the audiopart the audio of the second clip moves to the beginning of thetimeline (where the old (deleted) audio part) has been before.And i wonder if there is a method to prevent that.
BF.> On 3/25/06, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>>>> I have been playing around a lot with audio and video tasks in>> cinelerra, but so far i haven´t found out HOWTO make audio part or a
>> video part keep it´s position in the timeline when i delete a part>> from>> the video before the video or audio part that should stay.>>>> For example: I have a two video clips in the timeline, both have
>> audio,>> and i need to delete the audio part of the first clip, but when i>> delete this audio part the audio part from the second clip will move>> to>> the position of the part that i just deleted, but it should stay where
>> it is.>>>> Did i miss some part in the docu about howto do that?>>>> Thanks,>> BF.>>>> ___
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Re: [CinCVS] Keep tracks in the timeline in current position

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You say you have two video clips in the time line. Are they separate tracks or in the same track?Any delete you do will affect all the armed tracks, but shouldn't affect any of the unarmed tracks. Are the tracks that you want to have stay in place armed? 
On 3/25/06, Bernhard Frühmesser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hello,I have been playing around a lot with audio and video tasks incinelerra, but so far i haven´t found out HOWTO make audio part or avideo part keep it´s position in the timeline when i delete a part from
the video before the video or audio part that should stay.For example: I have a two video clips in the timeline, both have audio,and i need to delete the audio part of the first clip, but when idelete this audio part the audio part from the second clip will move to
the position of the part that i just deleted, but it should stay whereit is.Did i miss some part in the docu about howto do that?Thanks,BF.___
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[CinCVS] Working with audio files

[jim scott]

My project has a mix of MP4 audio and WAV files. When I render down to mp2 to burn to DVD the audio becomes very choppy. Specifically, it sounds l like the MP4 audio is rendinger correctly, but the WAV audio cuts in and out and has some extra crackles.
Is it a bad idea to mix MP4 and WAV audio? Which format is better to work with in Cinelerra? Thanks.

Re: [CinCVS] cinelerra movie

[jim scott]

I thought the latest version of Cinelerra automatically built the MPEG TOC? Am I wrong on that?On 3/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Martin,
Yes, I meant to ask what camera you filmed the sequences with.  Boy, the colors and contrast turned out fabulous on your clip.  Very professional.  Thought I was watching PBS. :)
 
I have a JVC HD10U which puts out 720P imagery in MPEG2 transport stream format.  When you transfer the files over to the PC, all you need to do is create table of contents for each file with mpeg3toc and you are good to go!

 
scott
 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Dear Scott, > > If you meant my camcoder - it was Panasonic GS120 with 
> 0.5x adapter. > But you neeed really good sun and transparent air > and small contrasts to get it. Also "histogram" helped ;-) > > I am awfully disappointed with miniDV - recently 
> have seen movie from sony digital camera in [EMAIL PROTECTED] > and it is super. I try to buy now something like Sanyo HD1. > I wander how to edit 720p MPEG4 with cinelerra? > Have to try some cuts with samples from internet. 
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Re: [CinCVS] Background rendering

[jim scott]

Scott:I am running FC4. I haven't checked to see if the playback problem occurs when I load mplayer during the Cin session, but I will. I am also going to update my video drivers, which seem to be very out-of-date.
I'll check out Brendan's RPMs tonight.On 3/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hey Jim,
I'm having the same issue as in that original thread:
https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2006-February/005612.html

 
I found if I start X and run Cin, I have no problems.  It is only when I load xine or mplayer before or during my Cin session that playback stops.
 
Additionally, I don't think you are on Fedora Core 4 as I am, but I found my playback performance improved when I upgraded my libdv version to the latest cvs.  This thread describes Brendan's FC4 performance tweaks:

https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2006-February/005374.html

 
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks for the tip, andraž. I'll take a look at the drivers.Looks like you gave the same answer to someone else last week. I'll remember to search the mailing list archives from now on.

On 3/6/06, Andraz Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:
your xv extension is broken. switch output device to x11 without xvor fix your X drivers...
byeandražOn pon, 2006-03-06 at 08:25 -0600, jim scott wrote:> I turned background rendering off, so I can now load, edit, add > effects, add transitions, and render to various formats. What I can't
> do is preview any mp4 video in either the viewer or the compositor. I> can scrub through the video in either window, but when I try to play, > the video freezes on the first frame while the audio continues to
> play.>> On 3/5/06, Andraz Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> On ned, 2006-03-05 at 18:12 -0600, jim scott wrote:
> > I checked the source out from svn and built that today. I> thought that> > would fix my background render problems, but I'm still > getting a> > strange message and no background rendering:
> >> > BRenderThread::start 1 map=111 equivalent=0> brender_start=3329> > result=3329 end=3329 > > RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> > RenderFarmClientThread::run: Session finished.> >> > Any hints/tips/places to look in my system for errors are > appreciated.>>> a hint you might not like:
> don't use background rendering as it makes cinelerra unstable> (according> to my experiences) >> bye> andraz>>> ___
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Re: [CinCVS] Background rendering

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Thanks for the tip, andraž. I'll take a look at the drivers.Looks like you gave the same answer to someone else last week. I'll remember to search the mailing list archives from now on.
On 3/6/06, Andraz Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
your xv extension is broken. switch output device to x11 without xvor fix your X drivers...byeandražOn pon, 2006-03-06 at 08:25 -0600, jim scott wrote:> I turned background rendering off, so I can now load, edit, add
> effects, add transitions, and render to various formats. What I can't> do is preview any mp4 video in either the viewer or the compositor. I> can scrub through the video in either window, but when I try to play,
> the video freezes on the first frame while the audio continues to> play.>> On 3/5/06, Andraz Tori <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On ned, 2006-03-05 at 18:12 -0600, jim scott wrote:> > I checked the source out from svn and built that today. I> thought that> > would fix my background render problems, but I'm still
> getting a> > strange message and no background rendering:> >> > BRenderThread::start 1 map=111 equivalent=0> brender_start=3329> > result=3329 end=3329
> > RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started> > RenderFarmClientThread::run: Session finished.> >> > Any hints/tips/places to look in my system for errors are
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Re: [CinCVS] Background rendering

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I turned background rendering off, so I can now load, edit, add effects, add transitions, and render to various formats. What I can't do is preview any mp4 video in either the viewer or the compositor. I can scrub through the video in either window, but when I try to play, the video freezes on the first frame while the audio continues to play.
On 3/5/06, Andraz Tori <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:On ned, 2006-03-05 at 18:12 -0600, jim scott wrote:
> I checked the source out from svn and built that today. I thought that> would fix my background render problems, but I'm still getting a> strange message and no background rendering:>> BRenderThread::start 1 map=111 equivalent=0 brender_start=3329
> result=3329 end=3329> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started> RenderFarmClientThread::run: Session finished.>> Any hints/tips/places to look in my system for errors are appreciated.
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[CinCVS] Background rendering

[jim scott]

I checked the source out from svn and built that today. I thought that would fix my background render problems, but I'm still getting a strange message and no background rendering:BRenderThread::start 1 map=111 equivalent=0 brender_start=3329 result=3329 end=3329
RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client startedRenderFarmClientThread::run: Session finished.Any hints/tips/places to look in my system for errors are appreciated.

Re: [CinCVS] Is this normal / render fails

[jim scott]

Thanks, Graham. I'm still having the background render problem, but it looks like that's a known and resolved issue. (
http://bugs.cinelerra.org/show_bug.cgi?id=217). Thanks for all the help. Sorry for so many emails.On 3/5/06, Graham Evans <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I forgot to add: - As well as changing that setting I also selected
fixed bitrate.  Other workarounds to the -q problem have been posted onthe list involving subsituting a script for the mpeg2enc plugin thatremoves the empty q parameter (or gives it a value - I can't remember).
If you keep searching on the mpeg2enc .plugin threads you should find it(about 8 weeks ago I think).Graham___Cinelerra mailing list
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Re: [CinCVS] Is this normal / render fails

[jim scott]

Good news is I found some parameters that work. If I set the bitrate to 5000 (anything below 7500) should work, set the quantization to 15 and select the constant quantization option, I do get some video output. Not great quality, but I'm happy to  have something for now.
On 3/5/06, jim scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I found a similar problem in the mailing list:
https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2006-January/005108.html
I made a symbolic link from /usr/bin/mpeg2enc to /usr/lib64/cinelerra. Now I get a different problem.Running /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin -b 100 -q 15 -a 2 -F 4 -I 1 -M 1 -z t -f 3 -g 45 -G 45 -R 0 -o /home/jim/tmp/bfast.m2v
**ERROR: [mpeg2enc.plugin] Bit rate is greater than permitted in specified LevelRunning /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin -b 50 -q 0 -a 2 -F 4 -I 1 -M 1 -z t -f 9 -g 45 -G 45 -R 0 -o /home/jim/tmp/bfast.m2v
**ERROR: [mpeg2enc.plugin] -q option requires arg 1 .. 32Again, any tips are much appreciated.
On 3/5/06, jim scott <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think I've got ffmpeg fixed, but I'm still having trouble rendering
FileMPEG::open_file: Running /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin -b 100 -q 15 -a 2 -F 4 -I 1 -M 1 -z t -f 9 -g 45 -G 45 -R 0 -o /home/jim/tmp/bfast.m2v
sh: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin: No such file or directorysignal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547


signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547

I think I've found the problem, 
mpeg2enc.plugin is missing. Any ideas on how to get that file into the right spot? Thanks!On 3/5/06, jim scott <


[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Thanks. Cinelerra uses ffmpeg to render, right? I think I've got a ffmpeg problem.
On 3/5/06, Andraz Tori <



[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:this is definitely not normal... it looks like renderfarm client is
being started. ... try disabling background renderingbyeandrazOn ned, 2006-03-05 at 09:04 -0600, jim scott wrote:> I'm starting cinelerra from the command line and get this:>> Cinelerra 
2.0 Sat Aug 27 21:05:30 PDT 2005 (C)2005 Heroine Virtual> Ltd.>> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public> License,> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.> BRenderThread::start 1 map=0 equivalent=0 brender_start=3329> result=3329 end=3329> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=9171 execution table size=0:> signal_entry: lock table size=0> BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0> BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files

> SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0>> Are these normal startup mesages or is there a problem? I'm having> troubles rendering. I'm trying to figure out if I've got a corrupted> install.
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Re: [CinCVS] Is this normal / render fails

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I found a similar problem in the mailing list:https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2006-January/005108.html
I made a symbolic link from /usr/bin/mpeg2enc to /usr/lib64/cinelerra. Now I get a different problem.Running /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin -b 100 -q 15 -a 2 -F 4 -I 1 -M 1 -z t -f 3 -g 45 -G 45 -R 0 -o /home/jim/tmp/bfast.m2v
**ERROR: [mpeg2enc.plugin] Bit rate is greater than permitted in specified LevelRunning /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin -b 50 -q 0 -a 2 -F 4 -I 1 -M 1 -z t -f 9 -g 45 -G 45 -R 0 -o /home/jim/tmp/bfast.m2v
**ERROR: [mpeg2enc.plugin] -q option requires arg 1 .. 32Again, any tips are much appreciated.On 3/5/06, jim scott <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:I think I've got ffmpeg fixed, but I'm still having trouble rendering
FileMPEG::open_file: Running /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin -b 100 -q 15 -a 2 -F 4 -I 1 -M 1 -z t -f 9 -g 45 -G 45 -R 0 -o /home/jim/tmp/bfast.m2v
sh: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin: No such file or directorysignal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547

signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547
I think I've found the problem, 
mpeg2enc.plugin is missing. Any ideas on how to get that file into the right spot? Thanks!On 3/5/06, jim scott <

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Thanks. Cinelerra uses ffmpeg to render, right? I think I've got a ffmpeg problem.
On 3/5/06, Andraz Tori <


[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:this is definitely not normal... it looks like renderfarm client is
being started. ... try disabling background renderingbyeandrazOn ned, 2006-03-05 at 09:04 -0600, jim scott wrote:> I'm starting cinelerra from the command line and get this:>> Cinelerra 
2.0 Sat Aug 27 21:05:30 PDT 2005 (C)2005 Heroine Virtual> Ltd.>> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public> License,> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.> BRenderThread::start 1 map=0 equivalent=0 brender_start=3329> result=3329 end=3329> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=9171 execution table size=0:> signal_entry: lock table size=0> BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0> BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files

> SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0>> Are these normal startup mesages or is there a problem? I'm having> troubles rendering. I'm trying to figure out if I've got a corrupted> install.
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Re: [CinCVS] Is this normal / render fails

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I think I've got ffmpeg fixed, but I'm still having trouble renderingFileMPEG::open_file: Running /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin -b 100 -q 15 -a 2 -F 4 -I 1 -M 1 -z t -f 9 -g 45 -G 45 -R 0 -o /home/jim/tmp/bfast.m2v
sh: /usr/lib64/cinelerra/mpeg2enc.plugin: No such file or directorysignal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547
signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547signal_entry_recoverable: got SIGPIPE my pid=12547I think I've found the problem, 
mpeg2enc.plugin is missing. Any ideas on how to get that file into the right spot? Thanks!On 3/5/06, jim scott <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Thanks. Cinelerra uses ffmpeg to render, right? I think I've got a ffmpeg problem.
On 3/5/06, Andraz Tori <

[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:this is definitely not normal... it looks like renderfarm client is
being started. ... try disabling background renderingbyeandrazOn ned, 2006-03-05 at 09:04 -0600, jim scott wrote:> I'm starting cinelerra from the command line and get this:>> Cinelerra 
2.0 Sat Aug 27 21:05:30 PDT 2005 (C)2005 Heroine Virtual> Ltd.>> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public> License,> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.> BRenderThread::start 1 map=0 equivalent=0 brender_start=3329> result=3329 end=3329> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=9171 execution table size=0:> signal_entry: lock table size=0> BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0> BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files

> SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0>> Are these normal startup mesages or is there a problem? I'm having> troubles rendering. I'm trying to figure out if I've got a corrupted> install.
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Re: [CinCVS] Is this normal

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Thanks. Cinelerra uses ffmpeg to render, right? I think I've got a ffmpeg problem.On 3/5/06, Andraz Tori <
[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:this is definitely not normal... it looks like renderfarm client is
being started. ... try disabling background renderingbyeandrazOn ned, 2006-03-05 at 09:04 -0600, jim scott wrote:> I'm starting cinelerra from the command line and get this:>> Cinelerra 
2.0 Sat Aug 27 21:05:30 PDT 2005 (C)2005 Heroine Virtual> Ltd.>> Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public> License,> and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under
> certain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.> BRenderThread::start 1 map=0 equivalent=0 brender_start=3329> result=3329 end=3329> RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client started
> signal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=9171 execution table size=0:> signal_entry: lock table size=0> BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0> BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp files
> SigHandler::signal_handler total files=0>> Are these normal startup mesages or is there a problem? I'm having> troubles rendering. I'm trying to figure out if I've got a corrupted> install.
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[CinCVS] Is this normal

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I'm starting cinelerra from the command line and get this:Cinelerra 2.0 Sat Aug 27 21:05:30 PDT 2005 (C)2005 Heroine Virtual Ltd.Cinelerra is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License,
and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it undercertain conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for Cinelerra.BRenderThread::start 1 map=0 equivalent=0 brender_start=3329 result=3329 end=3329
RenderFarmClient::main_loop: client startedsignal_entry: got SIGSEGV my pid=9171 execution table size=0:
signal_entry: lock table size=0BC_Signals::dump_buffers: buffer table size=0
BC_Signals::delete_temps: deleting 0 temp filesSigHandler::signal_handler total files=0
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Re: [CinCVS] Adding audio effects

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I have that enabled, but it doesn't seem to help. But this is getting weird. If I:1. render my scene as a new resource2. append the new resource to the project3. play the whole thingThen the audio is perfect. Unfortunately, the new resource data is all black and silent.
On 3/4/06, Graham Evans <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
jim scott wrote:> Hi, all. Sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but I can't find it in> the wiki or on the web. I'm adding sound effects as audio tracks, but> the audio is delayed a few seconds beyond the insertion point. If I
> preview the video in Cinelerra, the delay is a couple of seconds. If I> render to a file, the audio is right where I want it.>> Is there a way to get the audio synced up for the compositor window?
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[CinCVS] Adding audio effects

[jim scott]

Hi, all. Sorry if this is answered elsewhere, but I can't find it in the wiki or on the web. I'm adding sound effects as audio tracks, but the audio is delayed a few seconds beyond the insertion point. If I preview the video in Cinelerra, the delay is a couple of seconds. If I render to a file, the audio is right where I want it.
Is there a way to get the audio synced up for the compositor window?

Re: [CinCVS] MPEG-4 video stream clipped on opening

[jim scott]

Thanks Sylvain! This fixed my problem. Let me sum up, in case anyone else uses a C770 Ultra Zoom. My camera produces an MP4 file with MP4 audio and video streams. The video is actually 640x480. When I opened the file in Cinelerra, only the top 1/4 of the video appeared for editing. I used the scripts at 
http://paramoteur.fr.free.fr/datas/perso/ and that fixed the problem.On 3/2/06, Sylvain Jousse
 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:Salut jim,
> I am using an Canon C770 Ultra Zoom. Maybe it has the same problem?Be care full! The script changes 2 bytes in 2 different places.It changes the declared size from 320x240 to 640x480.As it is not a Xacti, I cannot guaranty the result.
If you whant to try it, don't forget to backup!!!And if it works don't forget to tell us.Sylvain.___Cinelerra mailing list
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Re: [CinCVS] MPEG-4 video stream clipped on opening

[jim scott]

I'll be careful. Thanks for the suggestion!On 3/2/06, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Salut jim,> I am using an Canon C770 Ultra Zoom. Maybe it has the same problem?
Be care full! The script changes 2 bytes in 2 different places.It changes the declared size from 320x240 to 640x480.As it is not a Xacti, I cannot guaranty the result.If you whant to try it, don't forget to backup!!!
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Re: [CinCVS] MPEG-4 video stream clipped on opening

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Thanks. I'll give it a try.On 3/2/06, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I am right just say it.And here is a weblog:http://www.photographyblog.com/index.php/weblog/comments/5607/And here is the script:
http://paramoteur.fr.free.fr/datas/perso/The 2 files must be in the same directory.The input of the shell script is a directory. All the .mp4 of that
directory and subdirectory will be corrected.Indeed, it is under Linux ... ;-)Sylvain.___Cinelerra mailing list
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Re: [CinCVS] MPEG-4 video stream clipped on opening

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I am using an Canon C770 Ultra Zoom. Maybe it has the same problem?On 3/2/06, Sylvain Jousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> wrote:Salut jim,> I'm a brand-new cinelerra user trying to edit some MPEG-4 video/audio
> streams in Cinelerra. When I open a clip, only a small portion of the video> frames show up. My original video is 640x480. When I open it in Cinelerra,> the resulting frames are much smaller and incomplete. I either see a sliver
> (about 10x480) or a quarter of the full frame. Any idea what could be> causing this?Don't you use a Sanyo Xacti ?There is a bug in that camera. The video headers are wrong.I wrote a shell script to correct the videos.
I opened a mailing list about that camera:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Xacti/If I am right just say it.Sylvain J.___
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Re: [CinCVS] MPEG-4 video stream clipped on opening

[jim scott]

Thanks, that's a great document on exporting. Is there a beginner's guide to importing video? I've read the wiki (http://www.ftconsult.com/twiki/bin/view/Cinelerra/CinelerraManualTOC
) and the Secrets of Cinerella (http://www.heroinewarrior.com/cinelerra/cinelerra.html), and I think what I'm doing should work. 
On 3/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Check out this article. It was just posted on this list and is reallyinformative.http://content.serveftp.net/video/renderTest/guideToCinExport.html
ThanksOn March 2, 2006 07:26 am, jim scott wrote:> I'm a brand-new cinelerra user trying to edit some MPEG-4 video/audio> streams in Cinelerra. When I open a clip, only a small portion of the video
> frames show up. My original video is 640x480. When I open it in Cinelerra,> the resulting frames are much smaller and incomplete. I either see a sliver> (about 10x480) or a quarter of the full frame. Any idea what could be
> causing this?>> I've tried using mencoder to convert to various formats. I've converted my> stream to an AVI with MPEG-4 video and MPEG-3 audio. When I open that> stream in Cinelerra, I get the full video, but no audio.
>> Does anyone have any tips on getting an MPEG-4 video and audio into a> format Cinerella can handle?___Cinelerra mailing list
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[CinCVS] MPEG-4 video stream clipped on opening

[jim scott]

I'm a brand-new cinelerra user trying to edit some MPEG-4 video/audio streams in Cinelerra. When I open a clip, only a small portion of the video frames show up. My original video is 640x480. When I open it in Cinelerra, the resulting frames are much smaller and incomplete. I either see a sliver (about 10x480) or a quarter of the full frame. Any idea what could be causing this?
I've tried using mencoder to convert to various formats. I've converted my stream to an AVI with MPEG-4 video and MPEG-3 audio. When I open that stream in Cinelerra, I get the full video, but no audio.Does anyone have any tips on getting an MPEG-4 video and audio into a format Cinerella can handle?