Re: [CinCV Old] [CinCV TNG] Announcement from Michael Collins (the new registrant of cinelerra.org)
Ciao! Yes, it's Open Source for goodness sake. But Open Source always gives attribution. Taking cinelerra.org and cloning the website is pretending to be someone you are not. The code is open source, not the identity of a project. Ciao! Raffaella Il 05.04.2014 23:40 Ichthyostega ha scritto: Am 18.03.2014 22:57, schrieb Mike Morris: And, last caveat, I know essentially nothing of what appears to be the current controversy, So you're basically in the same situation as we all. Without prior communication, Michael Collins, who was certainly not an active member of the community since years, took opportunity of the expired domain and posted public announcements. I can's see any controversy here, just basic misdemeanor. Its open source, for goodness sake. Isn't this what open source is about - enabling and empowering people to improve, expand, experiment? I don't understand the angst and consternation. I am not sure about Angst but the general consternation is understandable. OpenSource, for sure, opens possibilities to experiment and expand what's there, but it also means to work together with other volunteers. Moreover, for OpenSource to be possible, some people care to keep the necessary infrastructure running, and do so in their spare time. Just to mention the necessity to keep sourcecode repositories and a mailinglist or forum running. Without such, there is no open source. How would you judge someone who does announcements, but seemingly isn't interested in helping with these core concerns? If you're puzzled about my words, then please just visit http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb [1] or http://cinelerra.org/gitweb [2] and then visit the git-server on the (now moved) community site, which still runs on the same server machine we're keeping up since years: http://git.cinelerra-cv.org/gitweb [3] ___ Cinelerra mailing list cinele...@lists.cinelerra-cv.org http://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cinelerra [4] Links: -- [1] http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb [2] http://cinelerra.org/gitweb [3] http://git.cinelerra-cv.org/gitweb [4] http://lists.cinelerra-cv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Announcement from Michael Collins (the new registrant of cinelerra.org)
Ciao! I agree the present situation (doubled sites/projects) is unacceptable and a decision must be taken soon. In fact I'm trying to better understand the idea behind the new cinelerra.org project but I'm having technical problems communicating with Michael. As soon as I will become more informed on the matter I'll be able to speak up and give you my opinion. So far I only have an opinion on the lack of good communication between the two projects. But (if it is worth) that can be fixed. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Broken Links
Hi! A volunteer for fixing links would be much appreciated. Unfortunately I can't work for cinelerra-cv in these weeks. :-/ Ciao! Raffaella Il 03.03.2014 15:11 Christian Thaeter ha scritto: Am Sun, 2 Mar 2014 07:50:31 +0530 schrieb Bhikkhu Mettavihari tv.li...@gmail.com: Greetings I shall have a look and come back to you If you find any other links I would much appreciate to have to page as I am not too familiar with the site just rgrep 'cinelerra.org' /var/www/cv on the server will list tons of old links. If possible these should be translated to relative links. Some (many) files might be autogenerated, take care that only the real source which generates these links are changed. Possibly we need some more volunteers for this work. Christian On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 6:31 AM, Rebecca . beccato...@hotmail.com wrote: Hey all, Per request to report broken links, a few things I noticed on the site - 1) IRC log no longer works. I suppose this is the page you are talking about. http://cinelerra-cv.org/mailinglists.php [1] 2) links to the repos (official, Einar's etc). This one I did not find Can you please give me a bit more info. Also testing mailing list still working, per request from Ceteh on IRC. *crosses fingers* Crossing looks like it is working ;-) with metta Mettavihari ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra [2] Links: -- [1] http://cinelerra-cv.org/mailinglists.php [2] https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] wtf old cinelerra.org
Hi! I don't know anything about that. I'm as surprised as you. I offered my help to maintain the domain cinelerra.org in case Adam was interested but I got no feedback. Ciao Raffaella Il 02.03.2014 12:25 Christian Thaeter ha scritto: Who holds cinelerra.org now? adam? there is a News announcement: Feb 21, 2014 * In association with Heroine Virtual, the Cinelerra.Org developers group, and Linux Media Arts, the Cinelerra-CV development fork is being re-fashioned and re-designed with a release date for the new site to be announced and published prior to NAB 2014. The future of the site will include much closer associations with film and televisions studios, science and visualization research centers, media industry, the tech community, and Heroine Virtual, Ltd.. As part of this change, goals and improved financial incentives will be presented to the community to encourage rapid development. Much gratitude is extended to everyone who contributed to this site and the development of Cinelerra in the past and an invitation to continue your important work will be formally extended in the near future. We will be contacting the current mailing list over the next few weeks as our progress evolves. Address any inquiries and requests to: i...@cinelerra.org. Suggestions, joint ventures, business and research proposals are highly encouraged. Thank you. I am not aware of any such plans (which might be just ok if something happend on my back). But nothing has been announced on IRC or on the Mailinglist. Is this some scam? The domain is shadowed, the website is hosted by some unknown provider. Can anyone give me an explanation? Christian ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra [1] Links: -- [1] https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Site is back
Ciao! I'm happy to announce that the CinCV site is back, alive at the URL http://cinelerra-cv.org Please, help fixing broken links by making me know them. Ciao! Raffaella -- Raffaella Traniello http://www.g-raffa.eu ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Domain registration
Ciao! Just to let you know that the cinelerra-cv.org domain has been registered at my name but it has been paid by Glen MacArthur (the generous man behind AVLinux http://www.bandshed.net/AVLinux.html) No doubt we made a mistake by letting the domain expire. But that mistake woke us up. I can now see a Cin community generously cooperating to fix the problem and making the project improve. That's nice! :-) Ciao! Raffaella -- Raffaella Traniello http://www.g-raffa.eu ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] New domain: cinelerra-cv.org
Hi! Since it was difficult to restore the cinelerra.org domain (now in a limbo: expired but not yet available), I followed Richard's suggestion and registered a new domain: cinelerra-cv.org. I think this domain is more representative of the community version and it mimes exactly the package name. Some consequences are: - We have a lot of links to fix - cinelerra.org will become available in a month or two and could be used for the original project at HV, in case Adam is interested. I'd be happy to pay and maintain this domain too. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Expired domain
Ciao again! At present the cinelerra.org domain is in a limbo: expired but not registrable yet. Richard Baverstock suggested to take the opportunity to choose a better domain name, that better represents the community version. I plan to register a new domain like cinelerra-cv.org tomorrow. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Expired domain
Hi! I have been over-busy lately and I wasn't able to follow the Cinelerra life and the problem of the domain maintenance. I'm working on it now and I'm trying to get it back as soon as possible. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Transferring cinelerra.org
Ciao! I'm having problems following the CinCV mailing list because the messages arrive days late and get lost in my too-full inbox. On 04/29/2013 11:12 PM, Rolf Steinort wrote: I am already hosting the http://gimpmagazine.org and my project, http://meetthegimp.org on a dedicated server in France. I could host cinelerra.org for free. The server costs are already covered by donations from both projects. Great! Would that cover also the technical maintenance? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] [OPENVIDEO] Lightworks for Linux beta
Ciao! Just to share the info that Lightworks for Linux beta eventually is out. http://www.lwks.com/index.php?option=com_kunenafunc=viewcatid=19id=44717Itemid=81 Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Transferring cinelerra.org
On 04/25/2013 11:57 PM, Richard Baverstock wrote: Who is currently leading the unofficial version (or who is maintaining the web presence)? I'm taking care of the content of the website. It's quite static. I propose to move it as is to Source Forge. ML can be moved there too (Can it?). The wiki can be abandoned but only after the useful user-added content is stored somwehere else (Cin4Grandma?). Trac can be moved to Launchpad. That would move cinelerra.org to free and nearly self-maintained platforms, except the domain that I'm happy to maintain (12€ a year!). I have no good proposals for the git repos. What do you think? Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Transferring cinelerra.org
Ciao! On 04/30/2013 02:06 AM, Christian Thaeter wrote: We moved to our own server years ago to have the freedom to control the services and infrastructure we want to use (git hosting was not that common that time). With this freedom comes some responsibility to maintain this infrastructure of course. Thats whats currently lacking. Indeed. The people that chose that freedom is not here maintaining that freedom anymore. But I don't see how moving to sourceforge/launchpad/whatever would address this issue. They will do the technical admin part for us. There are *plenty* projects on sourceforge which are in such a irresponsible/unmaintained state where the wiki, bugtracker and mailinglists get spamed. If there is no one who cares for it now, then no one will do it there either. We will have no wiki. The ML will be moderated. I see no spam problems in Launchpad tracker. Keeping the Server running is really no much additional work ... but you don't want to do it. :-) An old rule of headless FLOSS communities is that the Doers are the ones that decide. :-) Anyone offering a different solution? (the offer must include also the time to implement and maintain it) Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Transferring cinelerra.org
Ciao! I'm happy to maintain the domain. As for the administration, I can maintain it but only if we move to more self sustained platforms, like moving Track to Launchpad bugtrackers and so on. I'm already looking after Linux Stopmotion (a very small, quiete and relaxed community) and this model seems sustainable even for not so active communities. http://linuxstopmotion.org/ Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Transferring cinelerra.org
Ciao again! I forgot to add that at present I'm in the middle of an international film festival organization and I have no mental energy left for Cinelerra. I could do any work or migration only in June. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://lists.skolelinux.org/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Video/Audi sync problem. Can anyone please help?
Ciao! But what is most puzzling is that - and I repeat this once again - I created 4 parts of a series which are perfectly in sync, whether I play them in Cinelerra or any of the players, but this last one just won't sync once it hits Cinlelerra. Well, sorry, not quite correct: I can get it to sync in Cinelerra using the Nudge facility but when I render the file this nudge setting is absent and I get a mouth moving with the sound coming after the mouth has moved on to better things :-) . This is puzzling indeed. You treat all the 4 parts identically but the 4th one reacts differently. I have seen this odd behaviour only with MPEG2 files in Cinelerra and I've never found a solution. Which format/codec are the files you load in Cinelerra? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Multicam editing
Ciao! I knew the Cin community is great! :-) I've decided to try and follow two of them: 1. Cinelerra The best application is always the one I know. :-) Lorenzo, you had a clever idea. I try to hack a little with the compositor projector and view percentage. I think it can work. I plan to work with all tracks with video fade to 0. My editing will consist of raising the fade line to 100 for my chosen track for the chose time. 2. Blender To learn using it is a good investment. :-) I plan to use up to 12 camera inputs for the same scene, with 12 different framing of the same moment. I'll work in PAL resolution (720x576). Flavio, I accept your kind offer of a .blend file. :-) Does Blender have an easy fade control (like Cinelerra has)? Thanks Haldun for suggesting Lives. I played a little with it but I confess Blender is more seducing. Thanks Glen, I tried Openshot. It's very easy to split the view in 4 but the editing workflow is a little awkward for me, long time Cinelerra user. Your tip about the kdenlive audio synch feature is precious! Unfortunately without the possibility to easily fade in/out and without a mix track output I don't think I'll be able to use Kdenlive for this project. Ciao! Raffaella PS: I doubt the finished video will ever go on-line. The rights are acquired by the Padua University Press for 20 years.. :-( I'll be able to share it only privately. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra-cv 2.2 stability ?
Ciao! On 11/12/2012 11:42 AM, Hilaire Fernandes wrote: I went to edit videocast (Ogg/Theora video files at 1024x768, 15fps, one audio channel) and Cinerella proved to be very unstable Does it come from my system or is it something familiar to you? Problems with OGG/Theora video are familiar to me. What happens if you use another format? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Ciao! On 11/07/2012 05:27 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote: Raffaella, would you please add a line in the webpage stating how to install cinelerra, once the the PPA has been enabled? Done! Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Multicam editing
Ciao! I have the task of editing a video of an event taken with 4 cameras. Synch is going to be easy (long files, with clapboard) and I'll load every camera file on a dedicated track. Now I dream to have 5 compositors, a big one on a screen for the timeline output and several small ones one for each track on another screen so that I can feel like if I had a video mixer and I could preview all the tracks simultaneously. I know Cinelerra can't do that. Do you know any other FLOSS program that can do that? Can I set a video player to playback several files at the same time with centralized play/stop? Can jack be of any help? Thanks in advance for any suggestion. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
RE: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Ciao! I finally migrated cinelerra's builds to use the new name cinelerra-cv. Thank you so much! :-) Raffaella, would you please add a line in the webpage stating how to install cinelerra, once the the PPA has been enabled? Sure. Sorry for the delay. Somehow I messed up my git push ability to update the Cin site. I have to fix that first. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Ciao! On 11/06/2012 05:20 AM, Basil Chupin wrote: I looked at this- http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php which shows that Cinelerra CV has not been compiled for Ubuntu for quite some time ... actually it shows only that I forgot to update that page!! Sorry about that. I'll fix it as soon as I can. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Ciao! On 11/3/2012 9:24 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote: https://launchpad.net/~cinelerra-ppa/+archive/ppa I created the cinelerra-cv PPA repository for cases where multiple version of cinelerra repositories were to be installed. However, that created much trouble and the cinelerra-cv is now deprecated, and out of date. I remember the discussion of a few year ago about the confusion between Cinelerra HV and Cinelerra CV, especially for packaging. At the time both packages were available for Ubuntu. Then we decided to call the community version cinelerra-cv and the original upstream cinelerra The website title was renamed accordingly http://cinelerra.org/ and so the git repo http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=summary That cleared the confusion. I'm in favour of maintaining this tradition and naming all packages of the community version cinelerra-cv. I'd prefer the PPA containing the community version to be called cinelerra-cv A PPA called cinelerra should contain the HV version. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra vs Cinelerra-CV
Ciao! And CinCV broke off with upstream after CinHV 4.0, because merging became hard. Since then CinCV must have fallen behind quite considerably, I don't think so. They diverged. CV has some feature that are not in HV and HV has some features that are not on CV. A clear distinction on the website is needed. Anyone here is using both Cinelerras? Can we make a collection of differences? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Sound delay problems
Ciao! On 15/10/12 05:34, cin467-i...@yahoo.de I tried the recommandation from the Grandma manual to switch to esound in the preferences. The result is no sound at all. A note in the howto explains that the trick won't work with PulseAudio 2. http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/settings.html#_how_to_change_audio_driver_and_live_happily_everafter Is it your case? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Many fixes
Ciao! Einar, I've seen you pushed a lot of stuff recently. Nice! :-) Do you think we should make a call for testers? Ciao! Raffaella PS: Today was the first sunday of the month but there was no-one active on IRC. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Dark / contrasted prepared MJPEG videos
Hi Nicolas! On 07/12/2012 10:54 AM, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote: Le 12/07/2012 10:05, Raffaella Traniello a écrit : I sense ffmpeg command misses some clever options. Raffaella, this comment is teasing my curiosity. May you please elaborate? I tried to make the ffmpeg command simple for Grandma. But I've seen other people using ffmpeg commands 1 page long (for each pass). Maybe adding some options here and there the conversion gets better. It's just a matter of guessing which options... :-) ... I know there are some ffmpeg gurus on this list... Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?
Ciao Nicola! On 07/05/2012 06:45 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote: Was the patch committed to the main cinelerra-cv git repo? I don't see it Here it is: http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=commit;h=fb25a311b968f8390704fb9b726b4f775662a345 Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Audio transition bug + copy bug
Ciao! The real truth is the rendered result. In my case the rendering changes. Rendering the same identical project twice I can have different results. Use Fader Yes, this is the workaround. But it is a much slower workflow. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?
On 07/06/2012 04:48 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote: New builds with the patch will be available in the next few days. No need. The current builds already have it. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?
On 07/05/2012 09:30 AM, Einar Rünkaru wrote: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/326 Shold be fixed (commit:fb25a311) I closed the bug report. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Audio transition bug + copy bug
Ciao! Occasionally I encounter a strange behaviour in audio transitions: the audio mixed in from the clips is wrong. I suspect this happens once in a while when the transition links a clip and a silence. Sometimes I can hear it during playback (I think closing a reopening Cinelerra fixes it) but sometimes it's a nasty surprise I get in the rendering. And this is *very* nasty for long project close to the deadline. Example: https://vimeo.com/44184498 At minute 7.00 - 7.05 there are two unwanted voices coming from who-knows-where just in the points of the audio transitions. See project timeline: http://www.g-raffa.eu/Pastebin/Screenshot.png The cursor is around the first unwanted voice. Playback before rendering was OK. Playback now is OK and rendering too. My gut feeling is that the problem is in wrong storage of temporary data. Closing a reopening Cinelerra fixes that. Maybe also adding a new transition or playing back another one fixes that. The same feeling I have for the bug I encounter when copying selections from a project to another. I select and copy or cut clip A from a project and then paste the selection A to another project. Everything goes well till the time when Cinelerra start pasting the last same selection D, ignoring new copy E. Like if the clipboard were full and couldn't accept new data, Cinelerra keeps pasting the same clip. Note that cutting clip E works but I get clip D pasted. Clip E gets lost. And data loss is nasty. Closing and reopening Cinelerra fixes it (frees the clipboard?). For a while (15-20 operations maybe). I've seen no bug reports about that. Am I the only one experiencing that? Have you ever had such problems? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Fade to silence bug solved?
Ciao! I think this bug (still active) has been fixed by Einar. http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/326 Is that correct? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Adding fonts to the titler
Ciao Oliver! Thanks for your help. Unfortunately I have no backup and I do not know fonts enought to edit the fonts.dir file manually. I'm dying of curiosity of comparing your working fonts.dir and your unusable one. Would you be happy to send them both? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Adding fonts to the titler
Ciao Oliver! Thank you for the files! :-) In fact my fonts.dir seems in good shape. See it (renamed to fonts.txt) at http://www.g-raffa.eu/Pastebin/fonts.txt This is the result of running: cd /usr/lib/cinelerra/fonts/ sudo ttmkfdir -o fonts.scale sudo mkfontdir sudo fc-cache Panefresco is my new font. Still it doesn't appear among the default fonts in Cinelerra. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Adding fonts to the titler
On 06/28/2012 01:10 PM, oliver lynton wrote: Tried your: cd /usr/lib/cinelerra/fonts/ sudo ttmkfdir -o fonts.scale sudo mkfontdir sudo fc-cache and it works fine. Not sure what I did wrong before but it's fine and panefresco works fine. How strange. My Panefresco fonts looks ok in the Font Viewer. I'm using my old machine with Ubuntu 11.04 and Cinelerra 2.1.5 but I would be surprised if this were relevant. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Adding fonts to the titler
On 06/28/2012 02:23 PM, Raffaella Traniello wrote: I'm using my old machine with Ubuntu 11.04 and Cinelerra 2.1.5 but I would be surprised if this were relevant. Silly me!! I'm using a self compiled Cinelerra!! My path has to be /usr/local/lib/cinelerra/fonts/ ! Well... Now it works. :-) Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Adding fonts to the titler
Ciao! I have the need to add fonts to the titler. The instructions on the manual seems out of date. I tried the more recent tips at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdzzVDwFHzo with no avail. I get no errors nor new fonts listed in the font dropdown of the tiler. Any hint? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] TOC file png sequence
Ciao! On 06/22/2012 11:23 PM, Tim Copeland wrote: when using a toc file to load png image sequence, nothing appears on the time line Occasionally I had bad surprises from the View-Show assets function, extremely useful when you don't want your project visible on the timeline. This terrific function is considered soo useful that it even has a keyboard shortcut: 0. 0 key is very close to the 1 key on my numpad that I use extensively for frame by frame playback with PNG sequences. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] projector z line not visible
Hi Mike! A blue line should appear on the track after View - Projector Z is selected, however it doesn't. Sometimes the lines go out if the visible range. To make the range fit the timeline so to be fully visible use the ALT + f command (or the button with two vertical arrows fit all autos to display). Is that what you are looking for? Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04-RESOLVED
Hi David! On 06/02/2012 05:00 AM, David Armstrong wrote: gee, hope I don't sound like a nag, but can Grandma be updated for 12.04? Still showing 11.10 as latest Ubuntu. You are right. I have updated that page now. Unfortunately the release of the .04 Ubuntus always finds me busy as hell since every May I organize an international short film festival here in Padua (near Venice, Italy). Every spring Grandma's pages will always be out of date. Usually summer is the period I dedicate to review and update the documents I use for my profession. Thank you for your understanding. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04-RESOLVED
On 06/02/2012 02:15 PM, David Armstrong wrote: well it's winter now (for me) Ops... sorry for this silly mistake. I shouldn't have used a season to define a group of months especially because my passion for video was born while I was living down under! :-) That reminds me of a page of my old website: http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/Chairperson.html Long life to Cinelerra and grandmas in whatever season! Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] grand'ma proxy
On 05/07/2012 07:26 PM, Haldun ALTAN wrote: I'll make an how to from it to keep it in mind for the next time. May be I can send it to Grand Ma ? ... :))) Please, do. I bet she would like that! :-) Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Ubuntu Studio 12.04
On 04/17/2012 03:14 PM, Fabio Marconi wrote: Ciao, prova a scaricare dal main server, quello italiano mi sa che è down Thanks Fabio. I don't think I have problems downloading from the server: I did install some packages. I suspect my problem is a change in the dependencies from 11.10 to 12.04. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Grandma is back!
On 03/31/2012 05:49 PM, AV Linux wrote: on my site the donate button takes you right to the correct email address. This can easily be set up by copying and pasting some button code from Paypal and putting it on the Grandma site. Trust me, in the Linux world you never want to make donations difficult!...lol. Thanks for the tips, Glen. I followed your advice. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Wrong playback if clip fps differs from project fps (bug #967)
Ciao! At today's meeting we discussed about bug #967. http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ticket/967 It's about imagelists not played back correctly when the framerate of the imagelist is different from the project framerate (an usecase quite common in stop-motion animation). I confirm this bug it is not specific to framelists and it can be reproduced with video too. Steps to reproduce: - Open Cinelerra - Create a new project (resolution: 640x480, framerate: 25fps) - Download the 5fps test video I prepared: http://g-raffa.eu/Pastebin/5fps.mov (460 KB) - Load it in Cinelerra - Press arrow key down till you can see the timeline frame by frame. - Observe the first image and the last one. Since we have a 5fps clip in a 25fps project every frame of the clip is expected to last 5 project frames. In fact the first clip frame is only 3 project frames long. The two missing frames are added at the end of the clip: the last clip frame lasts 7 project frames. I have the same result if I load a 25fps clip and change its framerate inside Cinelerra. Steps to reproduce: - Open Cinelerra - Create a new project (resolution: 640x480, framerate: 25fps) - Download the 25fps test video I prepared: http://g-raffa.eu/Pastebin/25fps.mov (460 KB) - Load it in Cinelerra - Go to the Media tab of the Resources window and right on the clip icon to open a popup menu. - Select Info…. - Edit the Framerate field by opening the dropdown menu with preset values (clicking on the arrow) or by directly entering the number 5. - Click OK. - Press arrow key down till you can see the timeline frame by frame. - Observe the first image and the last one. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Grandma is back!
Ciao! I'm happy to announce Grandma is back home. You can pay her a visit any time at her usual address: http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/index.html Ciao! Raffaella PS1: Glen, thanks for your offer. I just set up a donation paragraph. :-) http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/index.html#_donations PS2: Gour, thanks for your hosting services tips. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Configuring Compilation for Cinelerra 2.2CV
Hi! since Raffaella's site is down I've forgotten the configure command she uses and it worked well for me previously. I use: ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile --enable-mmx --without-pic for 32bit and ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile for 64bit Ciao! Raffaella PS: Grandma is already feeling better ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Grandma and g-raffa.eu
Hi there! I'm sorry to inform you my website went down (and my e-mail with it). I still don't know the reason and I can't contact my host. Apparently the whole company went down... That happened in a very busy time of mine (I was kidnapped by a deadline) and I wasn't able to react quickly. I'm moving to a new host but that will take time. I expect to be back on-line again in a week or so. I'll keep you informed on when you can go back visiting Grandma again. Ciao! Raffaella (from a gmail account) ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra plays mute on pulseaudio
Miroslav, you can try setting the Audio driver to ESound, port 7007. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] render with mjpega - monthy's patches
Salut Haldun! In properties it's indicated as 1920x540 motion jpeg Is that means cropped ? By cropped I mean that some pieces of the frames are missing. I sense this is not your case and you get a squeezed image (aspect ratio is wrong but the image is complete). when I open with handbrake or avidemux it shows 1080 and renders 1080. totem don't recognize 19:6 automatically (there it's squezed if i don't put the size to 19:6) but vlc does. I have a similar effect. The file is OK but it is not always recognized as such. Like if Cinelerra rendered some aspect ratio or resolution flags wrong. She does that also with anamorphic DV. Nautilus gets it wrong. The thumbnail is shown squeezed and the resolution is reported wrongly (for my current 720x576 PAL project is said to be 720x288). In fact the file is OK, with the resolution you expect it to have. MJPEG A is only an intermediate format in my workflow so it is not a big problem: in VLC I can adjust the aspect ratio manually, in Cinelerra is read correctly. If this is a Cinelerra bug maybe we can help fixing that! Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra.rc changes
Hi Mettavihari! I compared your two .rc files with Meld diff viewer. The only serious difference was: Good: AUTOGROUPTYPE_VIDEO_FADE_MAX 1.00e+02 Bad: AUTOGROUPTYPE_VIDEO_FADE_MAX 1.00e+00 In your bad screenshot I saw the video fade line disappearing: video fade is your wrong setting. Opening your bad XML confirmed that. SOLUTION: Look at the bottom of your program window: there is an audio fade button. Click on the arrow on the right and select video fade. Make sure the automation range value is set to to 0.0 to 100.0 In your bad XML it was set to 0.0 to 1.0 Happy fading! :-) Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] [OPENVIDEO] Linux Stopmotion community
Ciao! You might be interested to know that Stopmotion, the application for grabbing the frames of an animation, has now its own community. Please, visit the Linux Stopmotion brand new website at: http://linuxstopmotion.org I think the most interesting features we are working on are: - capture from DSLR camera - export to Cinelerra framelist Some work is being done to improve the device configuration, making it cleaner and more effective. I prepared a tutorial for installing and configuring Linux Stopmotion. It's called... Linux Stopmotion for Grandpa. :-) http://linuxstopmotion.g-raffa.eu We would like the Stopmotion community to help testing different kinds of webcams and V4L2 capture tools. Would you like to be a tester? Please, join the crew! You can subscribe to the Stopmotion mailing list at https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/linuxstopmotion-community Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra on Corriere.it!
Ciao Stefano! On 02/16/2012 03:44 PM, Stefano Droghetti wrote: Here's Vimeo link: http://vimeo.com/36894542 (too big to be uploaded on Vimeo's Cinelerra channel, sorry) Thanks for the link. It's a *very* interesting video. You should add it to the Cinelerra group too. I said add and not upload because once the video is uploaded in Vimeo it can be added to many groups and channels with a simple click. Just go to the ADD tab in the video page and check the Cinelerra group. Thanks for sharing Keep up the good work! Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Just getting started
Hi! What's the best way for me to record the screen and audio in linux? Actually I don't know. I edited a screen capture only once and I had to do *a lot* of frame by frame corrections. The video was very blocked. The final quality was acceptable, thoug. A good HD that stood even severe zooming in. http://vimeo.com/2193255 I suggest you try the recipe by Scott Frase. He is a very good friend of Cinelerra! http://youtu.be/MhaOgNQ0Bbc This link is in the documentation page I pointed you to. I strongly recommend you have a look at it. How do you check the health of a capture file? I've always thought if it played it was good. Try playing it back frame by frame in Avidemux. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Just getting started
Hi! On 01/28/2012 01:30 AM, Richard Pickett wrote: It plays in avidmux just fine. But after it's passed over an area I can go back to specific frames within that area and frame-by-frame I find black frames. Just playing you never see them, only after playing and then going back frame-by-frame do I see them, I can play again and don't see any of the black frames during play even though I just saw them in frame-by-frame. Does it mean it's the original video to blame? Can it be a framerate related issue? If you want you can send me privately a few seconds of the problematic material (using a service for attachments). I can have a look at them in the weekend. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Just getting started
Hi! On 01/28/2012 06:15 PM, Richard Pickett wrote: https://s3.amazonaws.com/fbautoresponder/video/sample.avi I suspect this video file is not in good health. Framerate is OK but Cinelerra can't play it back correctly (and strongly complains). I can reproduce what you say: some frames are missing. Have a look at my timeline: http://g-raffa.eu/Pastebin/SampleOnTimeline.png I zoomed in down to frame by frame view (keyboard arrow down) and played it frame by frame (for the button see the yellow tooltip by the mouse pointer). Cinelerra display no missing frames but displays some frames wrongly (the light one in between the dark ones). I think you should check the health of your original capture file, the one you used to create this MJPEG file. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Just getting started
Hi Richard! On 01/26/2012 01:00 PM, Richard Pickett wrote: as soon as I add another video track and put the transparent .png overlay in, when the video plays it has frames where the overlay is displayed but instead of transparent it's black background. Just for a start I'd check if you have the alpha channel enabled. Go to Settings-Format and make sure your selected colour model is YUVA. Is there a *good* web page/site out there that covers most of these type of issues, and how to work around them? If by *good* website you mean a site that has the solution to your own problems in the home page, then the answer is no, unless you create it. I created my own, based on 5 years of daily work with Cinelerra and on teaching Cinelerra to newbies as young as 9. If you are not scared of searching info inside websites you can find a lot of help in blogs and tutorials: http://cinelerra.org/docs.php All I want to do is put a couple overlays on this video. does it really have to be this hard? Cinelerra is powerful. Her appearance is daunting. She is not for the faint of heart. I'll quote HiTech RedNeck: Cinelerra is like the cockpit of a jet rather than the dashboard of a car. For a task as simple as putting a couple overlays I'd recommend you use something simpler, like Avidemux. ...unless you want to use this task as a pretext to get acquainted with Cinelerra, as an investment for future use... Good luck! Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Just getting started
Hi Richard! On 01/24/2012 05:15 PM, Richard Pickett wrote: ffmpeg -y -f alsa -ac 2 -i pulse -f x11grab -r 25 -s 1354x768 -i :0.0 -vcodec libx264 -vpre lossless_ultrafast -crf 22 -acodec libmp3lame -ar 44100 -ab 126k -threads 3 output_file I've found the resulting file imports into just about anything, that is until I met Cinelerra. It just won't import. In my experience Cinelerra doesn't like temporally compressed codecs. In fact it is pretty common for all NLE to prefer individually compressed frames. I described problems and solutions in a dedicated page of Cinelerra for Grandma: http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/get_media_ready.html I hope it can help you understanding the quirks of Cinelerra. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Sound waveform disapearing...
Hi Nicolas! Editing a quite long video (18'30''), the wound waveform preview only shows up for the 20 or 30 first seconds. As I begin to slice the tracks, no ne waveform is being re-generated. I had the same problem too but only for certain formats, especially OGG Vorbis. A temporary solution is to rebuild the indexes by right clicking on the file in the resources window. But I think the issue is related to Cinelerra's limited format support. The only effective solution I found is to re-encode the audio to WAV or other well supported formats. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] thanks to g-raffa
Hi Haldun! http://altanh.free.fr/ Nice and funny video! :-) Did you animate the title in Cinelerra? I'm glad you and David found my tips for Grandma useful. Cinelerra work-flow is a labyrinth. I think it is a duty for survivors to share the tricks! ;-) Did you know that the Cinelerra community created a group on Vimeo? 324 members / 402 videos http://vimeo.com/groups/cinelerra It would be nice to have you there too! This is the animation that made me fight hard with Cinelerra for a couple of days and thus update Cinelerra for Grandma with HD tips: http://vimeo.com/groups/cinelerra/videos/32406966 Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Animating in Cinelerra ( was: thanks to g-raffa)
On 12/24/2011 05:10 PM, Haldun ALTAN wrote: For the titles yes. I prepared the pictures with inkscape and Gimp then put them in Cinelerra. Did you animate the letters with the projector? One letter per track? (that looks a work I couldn't manage...) Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Popular Linux distribution among Cinelerra users?
On 12/01/2011 08:44 AM, Nicolas Ecarnot wrote: So now for me : xubuntu, stable, simple, efficient, and does the job! Ubuntu Studio moved to XFCE too. I'm a happy Ubuntu user still looking for the best Desktop Environment. I like Unity when I do office-like tasks (it's fast!). I don't like it for editing (it's distracting and graphically demanding). Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Popular Linux distribution among Cinelerra users?
On 12/01/2011 09:31 AM, Haldun ALTAN wrote: Le 01/12/2011 09:06, Raffaella Traniello a écrit : Ubuntu Studio moved to XFCE too. That's interesting ! On 10,04 64 it's always gnome may be later versions ? ... Correct. The switch happened for Ubuntu Studio 11.10. To know more about the reasons see this blog post by : http://dullass.blogspot.com/2011/05/ubuntu-studio-moving-to-xfce.html Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] DVGrab with monitoring
Hi Daniel! On 11/10/2011 12:01 AM, Daniel Jircik wrote: $ dvgrab -f hdv [options]basename - | ffplay -f mpegts -x 640 -y 360 - I tried dvgrab -a -t -f raw - | ffplay -f dv -x 640 -y 360 - With this command I can monitor but I see no captured files. Any idea why? Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] DVGrab with monitoring
Thanks Daniel and Hannu. Yes, missing basename was the problem. Basename was not needed when capturing with dvgrab only. It is needed if I add the ffplay pipe. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] [PATCH] Fix compilation on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
Hi Einar! Can anyone test attached patch on real Ubuntu Oneiric? Sorry I'm not expert on patches. I downloaded your patch in my home folder. I gave the command: patch -p0 0001-Fix-compilation-on-Ubuntu-Oneiric-11.10.patch but I got: can't find file to patch at input line 14 Perhaps you used the wrong -p or --strip option? The text leading up to this was: -- |From ca4a98da959a6f81d17f9687ad3c557353abc2bd Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 |From: =?UTF-8?q?Einar=20R=C3=BCnkaru?= eina...@smail.ee |Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 20:35:21 +0200 |Subject: [PATCH] Fix compilation on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10) | |--- | cinelerra/Makefile.am |2 ++ | 1 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-) | |diff --git a/cinelerra/Makefile.am b/cinelerra/Makefile.am |index c09cbba..e5237f6 100644 |--- a/cinelerra/Makefile.am |+++ b/cinelerra/Makefile.am -- File to patch: What am I doing wrong? Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] [PATCH] Fix compilation on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
On 11/20/2011 03:22 PM, Einar Rünkaru wrote: git am [path_to]0001-Fix-compilation-on-Ubuntu-Oneiric-11.10.patch That worked. :-) I was able to compile Cin 2.2 just with the usual configure commands: ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile --enable-mmx --without-pic Thank you very much. Ciao Raffaella PS: I still have the wrong font in the interface. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] problem with your repository
Hi Tom! On 11/16/2011 08:58 PM, Tom Tucker wrote: I tried to access your deb file at: http://repository.akirad.net/pool/main-hardy/cinelerra-swtc_0.1akirad1_all.deb Thanks for the notification. You found the link on the transitions and themes page, right? http://cinelerra.org/transitions.php Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
Ciao! On 21 October 2011 07:15, Nicola Ferralisferan...@hotmail.com wrote: /usr/bin/ld: filempeg.o: undefined reference to symbol 'lame_encode_buffer_float' /usr/bin/ld: note: 'lame_encode_buffer_float' is defined in DSO /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0 so try adding it to the linker command line /usr/lib/libmp3lame.so.0: could not read symbols: Invalid operation collect2: ld returned 1 exit status Did anybody encounter this error? Any suggestions on how to deal with this? On 10/21/2011 07:55 AM, Michal Fapso wrote: It seems that you need to add -lmp3lame to the linker command line. I'm trying to compile latest Cinelerra on Oneric and I'm having the same issue. I have been suggested to add LDFLAGS='--copy-dt-needed-entries' to the configure command. This is the configure error I get: checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler works... no configure: error: in `/home/raffa/CinelerraCV': configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details My config.log is attached. Thank you for any Grandma-proof help. Ciao! Raffaella This file contains any messages produced by compilers while running configure, to aid debugging if configure makes a mistake. It was created by Cinelerra configure 2.1.5, which was generated by GNU Autoconf 2.68. Invocation command line was $ ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile --enable-mmx --without-pic LDFLAGS=--copy-dt-needed-entries ## - ## ## Platform. ## ## - ## hostname = raffa-laptop uname -m = i686 uname -r = 3.0.0-12-generic-pae uname -s = Linux uname -v = #20-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 7 16:37:17 UTC 2011 /usr/bin/uname -p = unknown /bin/uname -X = unknown /bin/arch = unknown /usr/bin/arch -k = unknown /usr/convex/getsysinfo = unknown /usr/bin/hostinfo = unknown /bin/machine = unknown /usr/bin/oslevel = unknown /bin/universe = unknown PATH: /usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm PATH: /usr/local/sbin PATH: /usr/local/bin PATH: /usr/sbin PATH: /usr/bin PATH: /sbin PATH: /bin PATH: /usr/games ## --- ## ## Core tests. ## ## --- ## configure:2673: checking build system type configure:2687: result: i686-pc-linux-gnu configure:2707: checking host system type configure:2720: result: i686-pc-linux-gnu configure:2740: checking target system type configure:2753: result: i686-pc-linux-gnu configure:2800: checking for a BSD-compatible install configure:2868: result: /usr/bin/install -c configure:2879: checking whether build environment is sane configure:2929: result: yes configure:3070: checking for a thread-safe mkdir -p configure:3109: result: /bin/mkdir -p configure:3122: checking for gawk configure:3152: result: no configure:3122: checking for mawk configure:3138: found /usr/bin/mawk configure:3149: result: mawk configure:3160: checking whether make sets $(MAKE) configure:3182: result: yes configure:3278: checking whether NLS is requested configure:3287: result: yes configure:3325: checking for msgfmt configure:3356: result: /usr/bin/msgfmt configure:3365: checking for gmsgfmt configure:3396: result: /usr/bin/msgfmt configure:3436: checking for xgettext configure:3467: result: /usr/bin/xgettext configure:3507: checking for msgmerge configure:3537: result: /usr/bin/msgmerge configure:3600: checking for style of include used by make configure:3628: result: GNU configure:3698: checking for gcc configure:3714: found /usr/bin/gcc configure:3725: result: gcc configure:3954: checking for C compiler version configure:3963: gcc --version 5 gcc (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) 4.6.1 Copyright (C) 2011 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This is free software; see the source for copying conditions. There is NO warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. configure:3974: $? = 0 configure:3963: gcc -v 5 Using built-in specs. COLLECT_GCC=gcc COLLECT_LTO_WRAPPER=/usr/lib/gcc/i686-linux-gnu/4.6.1/lto-wrapper Target: i686-linux-gnu Configured with: ../src/configure -v --with-pkgversion='Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.1-9ubuntu3' --with-bugurl=file:///usr/share/doc/gcc-4.6/README.Bugs --enable-languages=c,c++,fortran,objc,obj-c++,go --prefix=/usr --program-suffix=-4.6 --enable-shared --enable-linker-build-id --with-system-zlib --libexecdir=/usr/lib --without-included-gettext --enable-threads=posix --with-gxx-include-dir=/usr/include/c++/4.6 --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-nls --with-sysroot=/ --enable-clocale=gnu --enable-libstdcxx-debug --enable-libstdcxx-time=yes --enable-plugin --enable-objc-gc --enable-targets=all --disable-werror --with-arch-32=i686 --with-tune=generic --enable-checking=release --build=i686-linux-gnu --host=i686-linux-gnu --target=i686-linux-gnu Thread model: posix gcc version 4.6.1 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.6.1-9ubuntu3) configure:3974: $? = 0 configure:3963: gcc -V 5 gcc: error: unrecognized option '-V' gcc: fatal error: no input files compilation terminated. configure:3974: $? = 4 configure:3963: gcc -qversion 5 gcc:
Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
Ciao Einar! On 11/13/2011 09:18 PM, Einar Rünkaru wrote: LDFLAGS='--copy-dt-needed-entries' This is the configure error I get: checking for gcc... gcc checking whether the C compiler works... no configure: error: in `/home/raffa/CinelerraCV': configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables See `config.log' for more details Try LDFLAGS='--add-needed' I get the same error. :-( Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Compiling Cinelerra on Ubuntu Oneiric (11.10)
On 11/13/2011 09:40 PM, Einar Rünkaru wrote: Try LDFLAGS='-Xlinker --add-needed' or LDFLAGS='-Xlinker --copy-dt-needed-entries' Yesss! They both worked to let me pass the configure stage. Then I met the same error Nicola met: playback3d.o: In function `Playback3D::do_mask_sync(Playback3DCommand*)': playback3d.C:(.text+0x1fd1): undefined reference to `gluNewTess' playback3d.C:(.text+0x1ff4): undefined reference to `gluTessProperty' playback3d.C:(.text+0x2012): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback' playback3d.C:(.text+0x2030): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback' playback3d.C:(.text+0x204b): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback' playback3d.C:(.text+0x2066): undefined reference to `gluTessCallback' playback3d.C:(.text+0x2114): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginPolygon' playback3d.C:(.text+0x2123): undefined reference to `gluTessBeginContour' playback3d.C:(.text+0x272b): undefined reference to `gluTessVertex' playback3d.C:(.text+0x2754): undefined reference to `gluTessEndContour' playback3d.C:(.text+0x2763): undefined reference to `gluTessEndPolygon' playback3d.C:(.text+0x27ff): undefined reference to `gluDeleteTess' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status I applied Michal's suggestion (-lGLU) http://e.kevb.net/lurker/message/20111024.054825.44580d8f.en.html making my working configure line like that: ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile --enable-mmx --without-pic LDFLAGS='-Xlinker --add-needed -lGLU' I was thus able to compile Cinelerra 2.2 on Ubuntu 11.10. I can run her but the font on the interface is strange: http://g-raffa.eu/Pastebin/CinFont.png Running Cinelerra from Nicola's Launchpad package has the same effect. Any idea? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] [PATCH] C41 Plugin
Hi! Am 31.10.2011 23:20, schrieb Florent Delannoy: Known issues: The .png icon is good, but its .h version is buggy — anyone knows how to make a good .h from the PNG itself? On the tools page on the Cinelerra site I read there is also a tool called bin2cinelerra_header that converts .png files to png.h. http://cinelerra.org/user-tips.php Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] A short introduction to Cinelerra's layout (was: JPEG picture not shown in Compositor (einar/cinelerra.git))
Ciao! On 10/09/2011 08:24 PM, Einar Rünkaru wrote: For very quick start: directories: guicast - low level gui - direct interaction with X cinelerra - core part of cinelerra plugins - plugins as expected quictime, libmpeg3, mpeg2enc - encoders/decoders The rest can be classified as support. Some files to start guicast/{bcwindowbase, bcwindowdraw}.C - base class of all windows guicast/thread.C - base class of threads guicast/bcsignals.C - signals, debugging helpers cinelerra/mwindow{,gui}.C - main (program) window cimelerra/cwindow{,gui}.C - composer window cinelerra/awindow{,gui}.C - resources window cinelerra/vwindow{,gui}.C - viewer cnelerra/plugin{,a,v}client.C - base classes for a plugin Audio and video run in fully separated paths (classes, threads). I think this is useful info. So I added it to the website for future reference: http://cinelerra.org/devcorner.php Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] capture video from webcam
Ciao Edouard! On 10/07/2011 10:52 PM, Edouard Chalaron wrote: ??? Gosh Einar, I am sorry but you may want to look a little bit further than the lens of your ipod camera Cinelerra would become some sort of Kino just designed for camcorders and highy compressed videos. Why don't just remove importing file sequences, RGB float etc since you are willing to shoot yourself in the foot ? Calm down. :-) Capture functions in Cinelerra are pretty unstable. In particular they seem to depend on hardware. For some people they work perfectly (a minority it seems) for others they are really unusable. To have a very buggy feature is not good, so we are brainstorming on possible solutions. Fix the feature if it is useful (that's an expensive solution), remove it if it is un-used (cheaper solution). That's the reason behind Einar's question: How much people use it (were able to find working settings)? For what purpose they use it? Your reply (below) is all we need: controlling imports or scans (like I do) with a vectorscope I am starting a hack of the invert plugin to work on scanned negative films. This is what it can be used for. It is very useful also to know Cinelerra does a good job. There is no need to remind you we are all volunteers helping each other making CinelerraCV the best NLE ever. You know it already. :-) Thanks for believing so much in Cinelerra. :-) Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] AV Linux and it's 'non-GPL' license
On 10/06/2011 11:29 PM, i...@bandshed.net wrote: ...is everyone greeted with such 'hospitality'?...lol No, only special fellows in the same shoes as Cinelerra. :-) Guess why Cinelerra is not included in Debian and Ubuntu? :-) Ciao! Raffaella PS: a hint to the answer: http://cinelerra.org/docs/wiki/doku.php?id=cinelerrafileslicensestatus ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Some more to test for 2.2
Ciao! I'm reporting about the current construction_site, built with no problems on Ubuntu 11.04 and 10.04, 32bit. commit:'Fixed loading of multiline comments' enables to use multiline comments of labels and clips. I can create multiline comments for clips and titles for labels. But they display wrongly in the resource window: I sense I'm testing the wrong snapshot. With this 2.2 testing we are testing also the workflow for the release (mostly testing procedure and repo usage). We are facing the unavoidable mistakes of a premiere. Clearly there is ample room for improvement, starting from removing any confusion about the code to be tested. We announced CinCV 2.2 to be released on Oct 2. Due to the above mentioned reasons the release will be slightly delayed. I hope you'll understand. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] DNxHD (was: Reminder: Developer IRC meeting in #cinelerra today, at 16.00 UTC)
Ciao! On 10/02/2011 11:06 PM, E Chalaron wrote: Not sure if that is an issue (for me it is) DNX still not working. External ffmpeg, Suse AMD 64 bits compiling with internal ffmpeg does not make any difference However ffplay and ffmpeg work fine on the DNX files. I'm testing the code of the imminent 2.2 release. http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/construction_site I can playback and edit DNxHD files. I created them with the command: ffmpeg -i original.mts -b 185M -s 1920x1080 -vcodec dnxhd -acodec pcm_s16le intermediate.mov I have compiled Cin with internal ffmpeg. Ubuntu 11.04, 32 bit. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Some more to test for 2.2
Ciao! I'm reporting about the current construction_site, built with no problems on Ubuntu 11.04 and 10.04, 32bit. commit:'Fixed loading of multiline comments' enables to use multiline comments of labels and clips. I can create multiline comments for clips and titles for labels. But they display wrongly in the resource window: the lines of the first item overlap with the lines of the second item and they are not readable. Everything else seems OK to me. I tested also reopening an old project. The audio fade curve was as I edited it. Changing audio fade range from '-40 to 6.0' back to '-80 to 6.0' and lowering the curve to minimum gave me silence (finally!) in place of the usual nearly-silence. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] External ffmpeg patch (was CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers)
Ciao! On 09/23/2011 05:35 PM, Einar Rünkaru wrote: Anyone who sends patches! Please start a new thread whith subject [PATCH] Name of the patch. In the mail describe what and why the patch is good. I added that to the Guideline at http://cinelerra.org/main_repo.php (Mail notification) On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Paul Taggartptagg...@cinci.rr.com wrote: Attached is an updated ffmpeg patch that supports both the included ffmpeg version and external ffmpeg. This patch also fixes issues with fileac3.C. This patch appears to work on both 2.1.5 and 2.2 versions of Cinelerra. Paul, version 2.2 of Cinelerra is not out yet, so you can't say that it works with 2.2., but you have to mention with what versions of ffmpeg your patch works. At first glance the patch seems good. Missing: Name of the patch and description. Paul, it would be nice to include this patch to CinCV2.2. Please, help CinCV by sending a good name for the patch and a detailed description (see the Guidelines for more info). Thank you! Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
On 09/23/2011 10:59 AM, David Armstrong wrote: With all these patches flying around, can some-one advise if and when they have been consolidated into the release candidate code? I will then download, re-compile and re-test. Thanks, David. We are still oiling the brand new repo. We will soon be able to put all the patches in the same place for testing. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] More on testing
Ciao to all of you! And a special ciao to the testers! Here are some more tips for testing: NEW AND OLD BUGS We are now focussing on the bugs created by the changes: - Bézier Automation - compilation on 2.6.38+ kernels, v4l and buz drivers Please, test and report back to this mailing list about bugs created by those changes. If during testing you find other old bugs, treat them separately. If the bug is not already reported to the bugtracker, please create a new ticket with as much details as you can. Bugtracker: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/ BEZIER AUTOMATION To know which changes are made by the Bezier patch, you can have a look at the patch documentation: http://ichthyostega.de/cinelerra/bezier-patch/ COMPILATION ON UBUNTU No packages will be available for testing because compilation is one of the processes that needs testing. Compilation is supposed to be easy and successful also for newbies. It will take about 20'. If Cinelerra doesn't compile, then the testing was successful in finding a bug. :-) For compiling on any Ubuntu follow the instructions at http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/compilation.html Just some notes on those instructions: 1. Don't get the current code. Instead get the source code from http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=snapshot;h=77f464b5dafd2c441ccc55282a9489250b83306f;sf=tgz 2. Ignore the note For Ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narval about Video for Linux version 1 (V4L1). This code is supposed to work with no need for patches. 3. If you have a 64bit system, don't forget to use the configure options for 64bit systems: ./configure --with-buildinfo=git/recompile 4. Those compilation commands don't enable OpenGL. If compilation goes wrong, post the last lines (with the error) of the terminal output to the list. Happy testing! :-) Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
Ciao Edouard! It seems that 2.2 and official git 2.15 are crashing on importing DNX_HD files. Are you saying that the bug is not created by the changes of 2.2 and it is an older bug? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] External ffmpeg (was: CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers)
Ciao! On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 1:46 AM, Paul Taggart ptagg...@cinci.rr.com wrote: All the editing functionality in the world is useless if you can't create a finished product. The current ffmpeg interface is so far out of date that it doesn't allow 1/10th of ffmeg's current functionality forcing extra steps in rendering, often times with loss of audio or video quality. On 09/20/2011 06:59 PM, Einar Rünkaru wrote: I am not against adding support for newer ffmpeg versinons. I like the idea to drop internal ffmpeg and use only external. But this means that cinelerra has to support several versions of ffmpeg - both gpl and non-gpl. Clearly that can't be done in 11 days. I'd say all reasoning about external ffmpeg is outside the topic of 2.2 release. I change the subject of this thread so we can better archive interesting discussions. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] OpenGL (was 2.2 testing so far)
Ciao! Issue is no X11-OpenGL video driver option in preferences set-up drop down box. If you followed instructions for Grandma, then you didn't use the --enable-opengl configure option so - from what I understand of the manual - OpenGL is not enabled and you don't get the OpenGL option in the video driver dropdown menu. This is not confirmed by my experience: I never use the --enable-opengl configure option either but I get the X11-OpenGL video driver option in the drop down menu (configure ended with OpenGL enabled). Do any of you know what is the expected behaviour with OpenGL? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] The new CinelerraCV repo - guidelines
Hi! Thank you Edouard and all users that are testing CinelerraCV. You might have noticed that the source for testing is available from a new repository. Yes, eventually the official unofficial-cinelerra repo has arrived!! :-) The CinelerraCV repository will store the stable code of our beloved application. Version 2.2 will inaugurate the repo. Get ready with a bottle of sparkling wine for the toast. The CinelerraCV repo is not a personal repo; it is maintained by the community. This is a change that has consequences on the repo maintenance and on the community approach to contribution. This topic was much discussed during the last dev meetings. We ended up with some Guidelines, to better organize the community contribution to development. I've just uploaded the document to the website. It's meant to be a guide. It is not carved on rock. Please, if you wish to contribute code read it carefully. http://cinelerra.org/main_repo.php Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] CinCV 2.2 testing fortnight - call for volunteers
Hi! Last dev meetings focussed on the imminent new release of CinelerraCV: version 2.2, planned for October 2. The new version will be compilable also on newer kernels and will include the famous Bezier patch by Herman Vosseler (ichthyo). Einar is finishing working on improved default settings and standard presets. For details see the milestone tickets in Trac: http://bugs.cinelerra.org/query?group=statusmilestone=Release+of+2.2 Please, help CinelerraCV by testing her! 2 weeks left to the release. We ask all friends of CinelerraCV (devs and users) to test the changes and report bugs related to those changes. Please, report back to this mailing list. To test compilation on new kernels and the Bezier patch: http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=snapshot;h=77f464b5dafd2c441ccc55282a9489250b83306f;sf=tgz Download the source from the above link and compile as usual. (Grandmas using Ubuntu might find useful compilation instructions at: http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/compilation.html ) For a detailed description of the changes see the commit messages of the last commits of the /construction_site brach: http://git.cinelerra.org/gitweb?p=CinelerraCV.git;a=shortlog;h=refs/heads/construction_site To test improved default settings and standard presets: Please wait. The source will be available shortly. Thank you! Ciao Raffaella PS: Remember: only 2 weeks left! It might be your last opportunity! :-) ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] [OPENVIDEO] An announcement from Lightworks
Ciao! Today the Lightworks team made an announcement in Amsterdam. It is also in the website: http://www.lightworksbeta.com/index.php?option=com_contentview=articleid=122Itemid=263 All the announcement it is worth to be read because it tells about the company philosophy. The most interesting part surely is the one about the Linux port (the beta release will be out on 19 Dec 2011) and the source release (not ready yet, due to the many legal issues and complications in a product that has over 20 years’ history). There is still no mention of any specific license for the code. Overall I like the long term effort of offering a free basic multiplatform application (open source) that can be extended adding proprietary codecs and features. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] I have a question?
Hi! On 09/04/2011 12:50 AM, Dieter wrote: How do you install it on linux mint 9 in the package manager? Since Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, you can follow the instruction for Ubuntu. This tutorial should be easy on newbies: http://www.g-raffa.eu/Cinelerra/HOWTO/installation.html Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] August Dev meeting - reminder
Hi! Just a reminder for the next developer meeting: August 7rd, at 16.00 UTC. We will talk about our roadmap http://bugs.cinelerra.org/query?group=statusmilestone=Release+of+2.2 for the release of Cinelerra-CV 2.2 and about the official repo for Cinelerra-CV. The roadmap collects only some of the intetersting patches that were posted here on the Mailing list. Please, help us to make the collection more complete. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] August Dev meeting - reminder
Hi! Just a reminder for the next developer meeting: August 7rd, at 16.00 UTC. We will talk about our roadmap http://bugs.cinelerra.org/query?group=statusmilestone=Release+of+2.2 for the release of Cinelerra-CV 2.2 and about the official repo for Cinelerra-CV. The roadmap collects only some of the intetersting patches that were posted here on the Mailing list. Please, help us to make the collection more complete. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Merging two videos...
Hi John! I wonder if a similar effect can be made with Cinelerra I mean merge two videos and one [main] video would be showing slides and another video where the speaker is presented, which would be running on top-right corner of the resulting video. Yes, Cinelerra can easily make a Picture in Picture (PIP) effect. Simeon Voelkel made a tutorial about that: http://www.g-raffa.eu/SimAV/pip.html Have fun! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Officiale repo (was: Cinelerra HV 4.2 remove-support-v4l-buzz-3-cinelerra4-2.diff)
Ciao Rafael! For sure, I can help to review/apply patches in my free time. Great! :-) Would you be able to participate to the next CinCV meeting on Sunday August 7th, at 16.00 UTC on channel #cinelerra at Freenode? Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Cinelerra HV 4.2 remove-support-v4l-buzz-3-cinelerra4-2.diff
Hi Rafael! Nobody applied any of the proposed patches? Applied where? At the moment we have only personal repos. We miss an official CinCV repo, because we miss the human resources needed to maintain it. The present archive for patches is the mailing list. This is not a very effective system. During recent dev meetings we proposed a change: https://init.linpro.no/pipermail/skolelinux.no/cinelerra/2011-June/017934.html Are you interested in collaborating? Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Windows version of Cinelerra
On 07/02/2011 05:10 PM, Bobalina Corncob wrote: Are you guys working on making a Windows Version of Cinelerra No, it is and will be only for Linux. Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] CinelerraCV 2.1.5 back in AV Linux 5.0
Just a quick note to let you know that AV Linux 5.0 has been released and now features Cinelerra 2.1.5CV. The site is now updated. http://cinelerra.org/getting_cinelerra.php#livecd Thanks Glen! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] Yet another call for devs
DEVELOPERS WANTED! At the meeting today we discussed and proposed to create an official GIT repo for CinelerraCV, so to ease the maintenance of the code and the merge of contributions. At present the code is maintained by j6t in his repo and in his free time. If we create an official repo, Einar is happy to help but at least a third dev is needed. Any volunteer? Ciao Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Patch for compilation for kernel 2.6.38+ more prominent in the download page of the website?
Ciao! On 05/22/2011 05:46 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote: All, I wonder if a little guide on how to apply the patch should be listed more prominently in the download page of the cinelerra-CV website. Right now there is no guide, and the patch is buried within the bug tracker. the guide could be based on the little info in my previous email (see below). Is this still valid? What is now the recommended way for newbies? Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
Re: [CinCV] Patch for compilation for kernel 2.6.38+ more prominent in the download page of the website?
Ciao Nicola! On 05/22/2011 05:46 PM, Nicola Ferralis wrote: I wonder if a little guide on how to apply the patch should be listed more prominently in the download page of the cinelerra-CV website. Yes, it should. I can take care of that in a couple of days. Ciao! Raffaella ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra
[CinCV] April dev meeting
Hi! Just a reminder for the next developer meeting: April 3rd, at 16.00 UTC. Since I'm coming home from another city, I might be late. We will mainly talk about the tasks we set to do last meeting. They were: Problem 1: Versioning confusion. Proposed solution: On the cinelerra-CV website to the source of stable releases will be separated from git. An apt source repo will be created, tagged and updated every 6 months. Also a snapshot tarball will be available, in synch with the apt repo. For convenience tags will follow Ubuntu releases, as they can work as a regular deadline. GIT will be the always growing repo, stable but experimental. CinCV versioning will still be linked only to enough new features a bug fixes. hermanr volunteers for setting up the apt-repo. raffa volunteers for preparing the tarball and updating the site accordingly. Problem 2: Need for a test suite Proposed solution: Start work on a test suite, beginning by looking at Google Test. hermanr volunteers. Problem 3: New users need reasonable defaults. Come up with a list of reasonable defaults: - PAL or NTSC standard set with country-TVstandard mapping and detection. - YUVA-color - play-every-frame disabled, - ALSA (stop playback locks up check box checked) - xv - -40.0 to 6.0 for audio fade (till the bug is fixed), - timeruler of the timeline counting by 2 seconds - Hours:Minutes:Seconds:Frames as unit of time in the timeline, - display text in the resource window folder list (to prevent the media folder not to be shown in small screens) - duration for still images = 3 sec - compositor zoom set to auto - 500 index files to keep. Volunteer: einarR1 Problem 4: ichthyo patch That version needs a good testing so to be put in CinCV soon. Proposed solution : The repo will be described and made available from the CinCV website, along with the other unstable experimental repos (einar, monty, simAV, ...) volunteer: raffa Problem 5: output formats There are too many broken output formats. Waiting for them to be fixed, einarR1 had the idea to add to preferences a flag 'show advanced codecs', off by default. This leads to the problem of how to find out what works and what it works mean. It is theme for research. ___ Cinelerra mailing list Cinelerra@skolelinux.no https://init.linpro.no/mailman/skolelinux.no/listinfo/cinelerra