EIGRP Help!!!! 2nd request

[Brandon Carroll]

Okay, there has got to be a CCIE out there that knows this!  This was my
last postSomeone please let me know.  Tomorrow is my last day of the
BSCN class and I'd like to have some kind of  answer.THANKS


Question!

I am in the BSCN class, by ASCOLTA training, and it is an excelent course.
I know it probably will not be on the exam but when I issue the
show eigrp neighbors command the following results are displayed:


IP-EIGRP Neighbors for process 77
Address Interface Holdtime Uptime   Q  Seq  SRTT
RTO
  (secs)   (h:m:s)  Count  Num  (ms)
(ms)
160.89.81.28Ethernet1 13   0:00:41  0  11   4 20
160.89.80.28Ethernet0 14   0:02:01  0  10   1224
160.89.80.31Ethernet0 12   0:02:02  0  45 20

the only thing missing is that on my router, in the far left colum, there is
a heading, "H"  and underneath it is the following:

IP-EIGRP Neighbors for process 77
(H) Address Interface Holdtime Uptime   Q  Seq
SRTT  RTO
  (secs)   (h:m:s)  Count  Num
(ms)  (ms)
  0  160.89.81.28Ethernet1 13   0:00:41  0  11   4
20
  2  160.89.80.28Ethernet0 14   0:02:01  0  10   12
24
  1  160.89.80.31Ethernet0 12   0:02:02  0  45
20

Can anyone PLEASE explain what they mean!   TH/ANKS!

Brandon Carroll
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setting up a Menu on a 2511

[Luan Kim]

Can someone point me to where I can find the syntax of setting up a menu
on a 2511 access server.  For example, when users telnet to the terminal
server, they'll get a menu that lists which servers are attached to which
port; they can enter 1 to get into joe.blow.com and 2 to get into
stone.blow.com.  Thanks first.



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Re: 25xx looking for network config files -- Why?

[Don Yu]

enter "no service config" in global configuration mode.

=
 Don Yu
 Enterprise Network Engineer
 Information Network Center
 Unitel Co. Ltd.
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Re: 25xx looking for network config files -- Why?

[Kenny Sallee]

conf t
no service config
end
wr mem
reload
y



- Original Message -
From: "Brent Case" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Groupstudy Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:12 PM
Subject: 25xx looking for network config files -- Why?


> I have a 2503 that on every reload, it looks for 4 different type of
> configuration files to load via tftp.  How do I turn that off?  There is a
> valid startup-config but the router constantly looks for network-confg,
> cisconet.cfg, router-confg & ciscortr.cfg, even after completly loading.
I
> have included the startup messages, show version & show startup-config.
If
> this is an option set in the boot rom, shouldn't the config register be
> something different?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brent Case
>
>
> System Bootstrap, Version 4.14(9.1), SOFTWARE
> Copyright (c) 1986-1994 by cisco Systems
> 2500 processor with 4096 Kbytes of main memory
>
> Unknown or ambiguous service arg - udp-small-servers
> Illegal IP keyword - classless
> Loading c2500-j-l_112-13.exe at 0x340, size = 7969232 bytes [OK]
>
> F3: 7872580+96620+313640 at 0x360
>
>   Restricted Rights Legend
>
> Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
> subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
> (c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
> Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
> (c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
> Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
>
>cisco Systems, Inc.
>170 West Tasman Drive
>San Jose, California 95134-1706
>
>
>
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-J-L), Version 11.2(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> Compiled Tue 31-Mar-98 12:27 by tlane
> Image text-base: 0x0303F1E4, data-base: 0x1000
>
> cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision A) with 4096K/2048K bytes of
memory.
> Processor board ID 01446664, with hardware revision 
> Bridging software.
> SuperLAT software copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
> X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
> TN3270 Emulation software.
> Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.0.
> 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
> 2 Serial network interface(s)
> 1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
> 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)
>
> Loading network-confg ... [timed out]
>
> Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]
>
> Loading router-confg ... [timed out]
>
> Loading ciscortr.cfg ... [timed out]
>
>
>
> Press RETURN to get started!
>
>
> Router#sho ver
> Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
> IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-J-L), Version 11.2(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)
> Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
> Compiled Tue 31-Mar-98 12:27 by tlane
> Image text-base: 0x0303F1E4, data-base: 0x1000
>
> ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 4.14(9.1), SOFTWARE
>
> Router uptime is 8 minutes
> System restarted by power-on
> System image file is "c2500-j-l_112-13.exe", booted via flash
>
> cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision A) with 4096K/2048K bytes of
memory.
> Processor board ID 01446664, with hardware revision 
> Bridging software.
> SuperLAT software copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
> X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
> TN3270 Emulation software.
> Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.0.
> 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
> 2 Serial network interface(s)
> 1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
> 32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
> 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)
>
> Configuration register is 0x2102
>
> Router#
>
> Router#sh startup-config
> Using 574 out of 32762 bytes
> !
> version 11.2
> service config
> no service password-encryption
> no service udp-small-servers
> no service tcp-small-servers
> !
> hostname Router
> !
> enable secret 5 $1$TPq9$pVkiL7hW2bXINhzSQxz2D1
> enable password sanfran
> !
> !
> interface Ethernet0
>  ip address 192.168.200.101 255.255.255.0
>  no cdp enable
>  no mop enabled
> !
> interface Serial0
>  no ip address
>  shutdown
> !
> interface Serial1
>  no ip address
>  shutdown
>  no cdp enable
> !
> interface BRI0
>  no ip address
>  shutdown
>  no cdp enable
> !
> no ip classless
> !
> !
> line con 0
>  exec-timeout 0 0
> line aux 0
> line vty 0 4
>  password cisco
>  login
> !
> end
>
> Router#
>
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25xx looking for network config files -- Why?

[Brent Case]

I have a 2503 that on every reload, it looks for 4 different type of
configuration files to load via tftp.  How do I turn that off?  There is a
valid startup-config but the router constantly looks for network-confg,
cisconet.cfg, router-confg & ciscortr.cfg, even after completly loading.  I
have included the startup messages, show version & show startup-config.  If
this is an option set in the boot rom, shouldn't the config register be
something different?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Brent Case


System Bootstrap, Version 4.14(9.1), SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-1994 by cisco Systems
2500 processor with 4096 Kbytes of main memory

Unknown or ambiguous service arg - udp-small-servers
Illegal IP keyword - classless
Loading c2500-j-l_112-13.exe at 0x340, size = 7969232 bytes [OK]

F3: 7872580+96620+313640 at 0x360

  Restricted Rights Legend

Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.

   cisco Systems, Inc.
   170 West Tasman Drive
   San Jose, California 95134-1706



Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-J-L), Version 11.2(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 31-Mar-98 12:27 by tlane
Image text-base: 0x0303F1E4, data-base: 0x1000

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision A) with 4096K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 01446664, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
SuperLAT software copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
TN3270 Emulation software.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.0.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

Loading network-confg ... [timed out]

Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]

Loading router-confg ... [timed out]

Loading ciscortr.cfg ... [timed out]



Press RETURN to get started!


Router#sho ver
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-J-L), Version 11.2(13), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 31-Mar-98 12:27 by tlane
Image text-base: 0x0303F1E4, data-base: 0x1000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 4.14(9.1), SOFTWARE

Router uptime is 8 minutes
System restarted by power-on
System image file is "c2500-j-l_112-13.exe", booted via flash

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision A) with 4096K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 01446664, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
SuperLAT software copyright 1990 by Meridian Technology Corp).
X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
TN3270 Emulation software.
Basic Rate ISDN software, Version 1.0.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
1 ISDN Basic Rate interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)

Configuration register is 0x2102

Router#

Router#sh startup-config
Using 574 out of 32762 bytes
!
version 11.2
service config
no service password-encryption
no service udp-small-servers
no service tcp-small-servers
!
hostname Router
!
enable secret 5 $1$TPq9$pVkiL7hW2bXINhzSQxz2D1
enable password sanfran
!
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 192.168.200.101 255.255.255.0
 no cdp enable
 no mop enabled
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 shutdown
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 shutdown
 no cdp enable
!
interface BRI0
 no ip address
 shutdown
 no cdp enable
!
no ip classless
!
!
line con 0
 exec-timeout 0 0
line aux 0
line vty 0 4
 password cisco
 login
!
end

Router#

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Re: 2 questions

[jeongwoo park]

Hi Lawrence.
I really appreciate your kind explanation.
Please check if I understood correctly.
When subnet mask 12 changes to 13, I guess, according to what I have known
of, it is calculated like this: # of subnets with the mask 12 was 2^4 -2=14,
and # of subnets with the mask 13 will be 2^5-2=30 subnets.
Therefore, the increased # of subnet: 30-14=16 by increasing one more bit of
mask.
I think that with the subnet mask 12, I can have up to 14 subnets (2^4)-2
<---(This part is still not clear, because it seems to say that as long as I
have the subnet mask 12, whether it is class A, B, or C, it will always have
14 subnets. Is it correct?) How about this: 172.37.2.56/20<---This one also
looks to me that 4 extra bits have been borrowed from 3rd octet so that it
can have (2^4)-2=14 more subnets.)And how about this: 12.37.2.56/12<---This
one is class A. It looks to me that it also will have up to 14 subnets
simply it has /12. Am I missing something?

Wasn't the original ip address 172.37.2.56/12 one that belonged to
170.32.0.0/12 subnet whose range is 170.32.0.0 to 170.47.255.255?

Am I getting close to your point or am I uncontrollably misunderstanding?

Again, I appreciate your help.
I look forward to your reply.
Thanks very much.

Jeongwoo.



--Original Message--
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lawrence Dwyer)
To: jeongwoo park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Groupstudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 13, 2000 12:55:23 AM GMT
Subject: Re: 2 questions




As long as you only have the /12, and only your assigned address range
172.32.0.0-172.47.255.255 then there will be no more subnets.
Now you could move the bit masking to the right 1 bit and that would give
you 2
subnets with a  /13..
/14 will give you 4 subnets, /15 will give you 8 subnets and so on. Each
move
of the masking bit by one, changes the # by a power of 2. Think of the word.
Sub Net. You are taking one large range of addresses and breaking it into
smaller ranges by increasing the bits in the subnet mask. Remember, a subnet
mask really only defines a range of addresses with a common network number
expressed in binary. Variable Length Subnet Masking (VLSM) just means that
you
can move that masking back and forth.  As you increase the bits in the
subnet
mask, you are decreasing the range of possible addresses accepted by that
mask.
They are Sub Networks of your original range.
So
if you were to move your masking bit 1 to the right from /12 to /13
Then you are going from ..0.0  (255.240.0.0)
to .1000.0.0 (255.248.0.0) and you would have 2 sub networks of
your original network range.
172.32.0.0-172.39.255.255/13  and
172.40.0.0-172.47.255.255/13

If you remember the binary from the 1st answer  37 was 0010 0101
With 12 bits of masking,  you have 4 bits in the 2nd octet, "locking in" the
0010
With 13 bits and now 2 subnets  you are "locking in" 00100 and 00101 in two
seperate sub ranges
bits  1213th   address range
0010   0 000-111   is 32-39
0010   1 000-111   is 40-47

OK one more for clarification
With a /14 you are now increasing you mask by 2 bits from the original,
which
gives you 4 subnetworks.
bits  12   13th 14thadd range
0010   0  000-11   is   32-35
0010   0  100-11   is   36-39
0010   1  000-11   is   40-43
0010   1  100-11   is   44-47

There was a range of 8 numbers in the second octet per network at /13, but
at
/14 that range was cut in half to 4 while the # of networks doubled. At /15
it
would do so again; range of 2 (32-33, 34-35,,46-47) with 8 networks.
The network number is the 1st and the broadcast is the last in a particular
range.
The number of subnets is only limited by the mask you give it (up to a /30).

I really hope it helps, subnet theory can be quite an "Ah Ha!" experience,
once
you understand them, you can go backwards and forwards very easily.
:)
Larry




jeongwoo park wrote:

> Hi Lawrence!
> I have an additional question.
> How many subnets will this address 172.37.2.56/12 have?
> And what are they? What is the broadcast ip address in a particular
subnet?
> Could you tell me how you calculate?
> I am a tcp/ip newbie.
> I have read book about tcp/ip. But it confuse all the time.
> I will appreciate your help.
> Thanks in adv.
>
> 
> iWon.com   http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you?
> 


 
iWon.com   http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? 


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RE: Someone clarify this?

[Jorge Rodriguez]

yes, Vlans makes that posible.
VLAN configurations happens at the switch when VLAN IP interfaces
are created to defined a VLAN colition domain on that switch.
So, the switch may have 24port 10/100BaseT modules which you can
asign at each port or the whole module to be a member of a specific VLAN
group thus alowing colition control and at the same time the braking down of
your IP address schem. Communication between VLANS happens at the RSM Route
Switch Module in the switch where your subnets routing will occur.
Each VLAN# must have an IP interface at the core otherwise routing will not
occur.
When the station boots up it will send a request for an IP in the case of
DHCP. If DHCP if properly configured with default routes for the  specific
subnets, that is, " Interfaces on the Switch", it will only asign IP
addresses to the stations connected to that switch module.



--Original Message--
From: jeongwoo park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: July 13, 2000 3:46:37 AM GMT
Subject: Someone clarify this?


Hi all!!
I am a fresh college graduate.
While I was reading Cisco book at the school computer lab today, I was
curious about some network concept.
Could somebody clarify this?
Here it is.
This computer lab is set up with window NT workstations.
I was wondering what the ip address of each workstations will be. So, I
checked ip addresses of each stations by going around each stations by
typing –ipconfig-- at command prompt.
So, I was able to figure out those machines’ ip addresses.
When I was doing this, I also found that the ip address of the computer
sitting right behind my original station had different subnet ip address
from my original station’ s subnet ip address.
The station behind my station: 130.222.235.90/24
My station: 130.222.224.40/24
I know that it is DHCP server that assigns the different ip addresses to
clients. However,
these two machines are sitting on same computer lab, but each one belongs to
different subnet. And all these computers are connected to a switch.
Is it VLAN concept that makes it possible?
Would this be also possible without the VLAN configuration on the switch?
I was wondering if two machines could sit next to each other having
different subnet ip addresses.
The guy in charge of the computer lab didn’t seem to be familiar with
configuring VLAN on his switch.
As far as I know, the station behind me can’t send any data to my station or
the other way around without the external router intervention if they belong
to different VLANs. I hadn’t checked if my station could talk to the station
behind me because I didn’t know how to do it.
Could someone clarify this?
I will appreciate your help
Thanks in advance.

jeongwoo


.
iWon.com   http://www.iwon.com why wouldn't you?
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Jorge Rodriguez /CCNA
Network Analyst
R&S Networks Inc
1112 Boylston Street
Suite 222
Boston, MA 02115
1-781-614-1294
1-617-989-8634 Evenings
http://www.netwire.n3.net/
http://www.learncisco.n3.net/

 
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RE: Is CVOICE1.0(1998) enough for CVOICE 2.0 Beta?

[Ibrahim]

Last time you said (If I'm not wrong) there will be  Call Manager (AVVID)
topic in the next CVOICE certification. It's true ?


Ibam

> One main feature of CVOICE 2.0 is that they removed the first two
> chapters
> on analog and digital voice technologies to make more time for hands-on
> labs. So you actually have less to study for the CVOICE 2.0 test.
>
> Other than that, CVOICE 2.0 is mostly an update. Cisco's story on QoS for
> Frame Relay is ever changing, so you should check the latest "Configuring
> Voice over Frame Relay" document here:
>
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/12
1cgcr/multi_c/mcprt1/mcdvofr.htm



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Re: Can boards from a Cisco 7513 be swapped into a Cisco 7000?

[Chris McCoy]

rtc,

  The answer is "it depends."  There are some boards that are 7000/7500
compatible and there are some that are not.  The Route-Switch Processor
(RSP) series boards are not compatible with the 7000.  There is an RSP-7000
that is designed to go into the Switch Processor slot on a 7000, but isn't
compatible with the 7500.  Versatile Interface Processors (VIPs), the port
carrier cards, require the RSP-7000.  You are basically stuck with the
"legacy" interface processors (FSIP, EIP, AIP, HIP) only being compatible
with the RP-SP/SSP.  If the legacy boards came from a 7500, they can run in
a 7000.  Some older legacy processors from a 7000 won't run in a 7500,
depending on firmware present on the board.  Use the 'show diagbus' command
and look for the "7000/7500 Compatible" line for more information on cards
in the chassis.

Chris M.

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Subject: Can boards from a Cisco 7513 be swapped into a Cisco 7000?


>
>
>
> We tried and the board from the 7500 didn't even light up.
>
>  A coworker mumbled something about Flashing var, or reloading
>
>  RAM...what should we do; can we even do it...
>
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RE: Bus Topology and Ethernet

[Ken Chipps]

  
  On 
  any architecture or topology you must consider the logical layout and the 
  physical layout. Ethernet is logically a bus. Token Ring is logically a ring. 
  Ethernet is physically a bus - as in 10Base5 and 10Base2 - or a star - as in 
  10BaseT. The bus arrangement of Ethernet makes more sense when you see it 
  physically in a 10Base2 form. 10Base2 is the old style of Ethernet that uses 
  thin coax cable. Token Ring is physically a star as well.
  
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oscar RauSent: 
Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:54 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Bus Topology and 
Ethernet
I was reading about network topology and they 
say that an example of bus topology is Ethernet network. Wouldn't ethernet 
network be a ring topology due to
hub/switch environment?
 
Please correct me where I am 
wrong.
 
Thank you in advance.
 
Oscar Rau
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Re: Looking for Training for CIPT & CCIE WorkShops

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

Information Innovation is great. Their instructors are top-notch. Many are 
CCIEs. All of them have many years experience with both voice and data.

Priscilla

At 08:27 PM 7/12/00, B Brook wrote:
>All,
>I am looking for a training center to obtain
>(1) CIPT (Cisco IP Telephony), currently looking
>at Information Innovation Inc. for this, they state
>they specialize in this area>
>(2) A CCIE workshop. Looking at Globalknowledge/GeoTrain
>Advanced networking Expertise Workshops I & II.
>Atlanta, Ga location.
>
>If anyone has had any experience or feedback on the training centers
>or know of others that can be recommended, I would appreciate
>any comments.
>Thanks!
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Help (Update)

[Ahmed s]

Hi Everyone

(I forgot to mention that the router does not finish booting and hangs at 
the last line as shown in the screen shot below. The router is not connected 
to anything yet.)

I Got a used router that is giving a booting problem. I included a copy of
the booting information below. The router is 2502 with two serial
interfaces
and one Token Ring interface. Can Some body please help me find a
solution.
If you break the boot process, I get the > sign and the router hangs. Any
help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance to all the helpers


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Re: What is BPDU?

[Karen E Young]

Actually, there are two kinds of BPDU. Configuration and Topology Change Notification. 

Anyway, to answer the original question... BPDUs are multicast. The source address is 
the MAC address of the port its being sent out on and the destination address is 
01-80-C2-00-00-00.

Karen


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On 7/12/2000 at 7:41 PM Roman wrote:

:Bridge Protocol Data Unit - datagram exchanged between switches for Spanning
:Tree Protocol - to provide a loop-free network.
:
:Roman
:
:
:At 06:20 PM 7/12/00 -0500, you wrote:
:>I got this questions and choices were like unicast to wellknown addresses,
:>multicast or broadcast. Does anybody know what it's exactly?
:>
:>Thanks!
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Someone clarify this?

[jeongwoo park]

Hi all!!
I am a fresh college graduate.
While I was reading Cisco book at the school computer lab today, I was
curious about some network concept.
Could somebody clarify this?
Here it is.
This computer lab is set up with window NT workstations.
I was wondering what the ip address of each workstations will be. So, I
checked ip addresses of each stations by going around each stations by
typing –ipconfig-- at command prompt.
So, I was able to figure out those machines’ ip addresses.
When I was doing this, I also found that the ip address of the computer
sitting right behind my original station had different subnet ip address
from my original station’ s subnet ip address.
The station behind my station: 130.222.235.90/24
My station: 130.222.224.40/24
I know that it is DHCP server that assigns the different ip addresses to
clients. However,
these two machines are sitting on same computer lab, but each one belongs to
different subnet. And all these computers are connected to a switch.
Is it VLAN concept that makes it possible?
Would this be also possible without the VLAN configuration on the switch?
I was wondering if two machines could sit next to each other having
different subnet ip addresses.
The guy in charge of the computer lab didn’t seem to be familiar with
configuring VLAN on his switch.
As far as I know, the station behind me can’t send any data to my station or
the other way around without the external router intervention if they belong
to different VLANs. I hadn’t checked if my station could talk to the station
behind me because I didn’t know how to do it.
Could someone clarify this?
I will appreciate your help
Thanks in advance.

jeongwoo


 
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Fw: some networking utilities

[Oz]

http://www.routersimulator.com  maybe you should go here and get it from the
source
Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 10:39 AM
Subject: some networking utilities


> stumbled accross this resource page, might be of interest to someone
>
> http://www.heavysecurity.com/utilities/networking.shtml
>
> particularly this!
>
> Wannabe
>
> Version Number: Unknown
> Byte Size:3 MB (3,001,064 bytes)
> License: Freeware
> Platform: Windows 95/98/2000
> Description:An excellent IOS simulator. This is a great way to learn your
> way around a Cisco router.
>
>
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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #467

[Pritish Shah]

They are talking about a loopback plug that the attach at the end of the
circuit. 

For T1 circuits, on the RJ-45/48, pin 1 goes to pin 4 and pin 2 goes to
pin 5

Loop
Pins
1---4
2---5

Regards,
Shah
408-525-4263


Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 14:45:52 -0500
From: Jerry Deer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: hard loop ?
 
When telco refers to hard loop on a ckt as opposed to a loop on a
ckt... can
anyone tell me the difference?
thanks,
JD


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Looking for Training for CIPT & CCIE WorkShops

[B Brook]

All,
I am looking for a training center to obtain
(1) CIPT (Cisco IP Telephony), currently looking
at Information Innovation Inc. for this, they state
they specialize in this area>
(2) A CCIE workshop. Looking at Globalknowledge/GeoTrain
Advanced networking Expertise Workshops I & II.
Atlanta, Ga location.

If anyone has had any experience or feedback on the training centers
or know of others that can be recommended, I would appreciate
any comments.
Thanks!
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Re: Help

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

It doesn't look like a hang. It looks like a normal router startup 
sequence. The Token Ring and serial ports are probaby down because they 
aren't connected to anything.

You see "Illegal IP keyword" because your config has commands in it that 
are newer than the IOS in ROM, but that's OK. The router goes on to boot 
from flash which has 11.3 in it.

Seeing the > character when you break into the booting process is normal 
too. If you break into the router you just need to then type some commands 
to do something, such as "b" to boot.

I may be missing something, but it appears that you may be troubleshooting 
a non-problem or that you haven't told us enough about your symptoms.

Priscilla

At 09:39 PM 7/12/00, Ahmed s wrote:
>Hi Everyone
>
>I Got a used router that is giving a booting problem. I included a copy of 
>the booting information below. The router is 2502 with two serial 
>interfaces and one Token Ring interface. Can Some body please help me find 
>a solution. If you break the boot process, I get the > sign and the router 
>hangs. Any help will be highly appreciated.
>
>Thanks in advance to all the helpers
>
>**
>System Bootstrap, Version (3.3), SOFTWARE
>Copyright (c) 1986-1993 by cisco Systems
>2500 processor with 4096 Kbytes of main memory
>
>Illegal IP keyword - mroute-cache
>Illegal IP keyword - classless
>Booting c2500-d-l_113-6.bin from Flash address space
>F3: 6033236+75788+365780 at 0x360
>
>  Restricted Rights Legend
>
>Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
>subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
>(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
>Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
>(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
>Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.
>
>   cisco Systems, Inc.
>   170 West Tasman Drive
>   San Jose, California 95134-1706
>
>
>
>Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
>IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-D-L), Version 11.3(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
>Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
>Compiled Tue 06-Oct-98 21:59 by kpma
>Image text-base: 0x03032774, data-base: 0x1000
>
>cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision B) with 4096K/2048K bytes of memory.
>Processor board ID 01231079, with hardware revision 
>Bridging software.
>X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
>1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
>2 Serial network interface(s)
>32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
>8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)
>
>
>
>Press RETURN to get started!
>
>
>00:00:23: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to down
>00:00:23: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial1, changed state to down
>00:00:24: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0, changed 
>state
>to down
>00:00:24: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1, changed 
>state
>to down
>00:00:24: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface TokenRing0, 
>changed st
>ate to down
>00:00:25: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
>00:00:26: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
>Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
>IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-D-L), Version 11.3(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
>Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
>Compiled Tue 06-Oct-98 21:59 by kpma
>00:00:26: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Serial0, changed state to 
>administratively
>down
>00:00:27: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface TokenRing0, changed state to 
>administrative
>ly down
>
>
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RE: Bus Topology and Ethernet

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

At 09:24 PM 7/12/00, Francisco Muniz wrote:
>Ethernet (as well as token ring) use a physical star topology. There's a 
>center (the hub, switch, or MAU) and a series of spokes attached to it. I 
>think a physical implementation of a ring would be like an old style 
>ethernet ("bus style" - 10base5 I think) where the last computer connects 
>to the first, wouldn't it? What do you think?


Yikes. Connecting an old-style Ethernet as a ring was an infamously bad 
thing you could do to completely break it. 10Base-2 and 10Base-5 were 
physically cabled as a bus that had to be terminated on each end. If by 
mistake you  connected the tail to the end, the signal would wrap around 
forever looking like continual traffic and collisions.

These days Ethernet is cabled in a physical star with a hub at the center. 
It can still be thought of as a long bus cable that goes in and out of each 
port, (though that's kind of stretching it.) Logically you should still 
think of shared Ethernet as a bus. When a station transmits, the frame 
radiates out to every device on the collision domain, much as it would if 
the devices were all connected to one long cable.

Token Ring has always been a physical star. Logically it's a ring because 
instead of each station hearing the radiated signal from every other 
station as in Ethernet, each station takes in bits from the upstream 
neighbor and transmits them to the downstream neighbor. The sending station 
sees the frame come back and strips the bits. If the sending station should 
fail to do this (because of a crash or something), that's OK because the 
active monitor strips any frame that has already been around once. The 
active monitor sets a bit in the frame. If a frame comes back with that bit 
set, the active monitor strips the frame.

Unfortunately, this is all stuff you need to know for the Cisco tests, even 
the old bus Ethernet stuff! ;-)

Priscilla

>
>Francisco Muniz.
>>"Oscar Rau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
>>escribió en el mensaje de noticias 
>><000901bfec6d$475cd5c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">mailto:000901bfec6d$475cd5c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>000901bfec6d$475cd5c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>I was reading about network topology and they say that an example of bus 
>>topology is Ethernet network. Wouldn't ethernet network be a ring 
>>topology due to
>>hub/switch environment?
>>
>>Please correct me where I am wrong.
>>
>>Thank you in advance.
>>
>>Oscar Rau
>>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>




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Re: SMTP access list

[John Hardman]

Title: SMTP access list



Hi
 
Nope, as soon as a match in the list is made, it is 
processed, and no longer considered by the ACL. So in your example a packet with 
a source address of 193.128.233.177 on TCP port 25 it would forwarded/routed to 
the IP/forwarding interface.
 
HTH-- John Hardman, MCSE+I, 
CCNAArrisTech/CCS-IS SysAdmin
 
 

  ""Deloso, Elmer G."" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in 
  message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi, all. Just to 
  verify my understanding of extended access-lists: this continues to parse the 
  entries even after a match has already been 
  found, so if the first few lines have a "permit" and later down the last few 
  lines it encounters a "deny", what does the router do?
  Example: access-list 176 permit tcp 193.128.233.177 0.0.0.0 any eq smtp log 
  access-list 176 permit tcp 203.23.83.180 
  0.0.0.0 any eq smtp log access-list 176 
  permit tcp 203.35.182.133 0.0.0.0 any eq smtp log . . . . access-list 176 deny ip 193.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 any log 
  access-list 176 deny ip 203.0.0.0 0.255.255.255 
  any log 
  Any help would be greatly appreciated. 
  Elmer Deloso 

Re: CCIE lab troubleshooting

[John Hardman]

Where did you find this out? Do you have URL?

TIA
--
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ArrisTech/CCS-IS SysAdmin


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> For those of you that haven't heard Cisco has changed how the
> troubleshooting section on the lab is structured.
>
> Previously, the proctors would insert faults into your network and would
be
> required to document them.  Now you may get the second method which
requires
> downloading all new router configurations from a tftp server.  You will
then
> be given a network diagram and required to troubleshoot this unknown
> network.  This is to make it more closly resemble real-life where
typically
> there are different people that do the design and support.
>
> Regards,
> Aaron K. Dixon
> WAN Element Manager - Cisco
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Re: Bus Topology and Ethernet

[John Neiberger]

In an ethernet LAN, all hosts on that subnet contend for access to the
ethernet bus.  No matter what the physical topology, the logical topology is
that of a bus.  Remember the original ethernet:  a long coaxial cable with
taps along the way that connect to hosts.  In that configuration, it's easy
to see the bus topology.  You might never see that type of network in your
life which may be why this is confusing.

A hub is a device that aggregates hosts on a contention network, and it
physically creates a star topology, not a ring.  However, it acts exactly as
if there were still that one long cable with hosts attached along the way.

A token ring network operates quite differently.  A MAU with hosts attached
may look just like a hub with hosts attached, but the similarities are
cosmetic only.  A TR network is not contention-based like ethernet.  In
ethernet, all hosts "compete" for access.  In a TR, however, no competition
is necessary--all hosts must wait their turn!

A TR network is also a physical star, like the modern ethernet LAN, but to
access the network, hosts must wait for an unused token to pass.  If they
have something to transmit, they grab the token, attach a packet it to it,
and send it along its way.  Eventually, the token continues to pass by each
host as if they were physically attached in a circle, each one getting a
shot at the token.

To sum up, it's important to keep in mind the differences between physical
topology and logical topology.  I've over-simplified some of this to make it
a little more clear.  You'd do well to read up some more on this to clear up
things that I've left unsaid.

HTH,

John Neiberger

>  I was reading about network topology and they say that an example of bus
topology is Ethernet network. Wouldn't ethernet network be a ring topology
due to
>  hub/switch environment?
>  
>  Please correct me where I am wrong.
>  
>  Thank you in advance.
>  
>  Oscar Rau
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Off topic: MX entry and ISP

[Leonard Ong]

Dear Suresh,

I am very interested to help you, as I have been System Adminitrator for 
Unix System and
done sometime with DNS management, However Your data is not clear enough, 
and i get confused
from your explanation, therefor I can't reply with useful info.

1) Please provide more real data to analyzi for example does two sites have 
exact name ? or it's different ?
www.a.com and www1.a.com could be the same IP could be different.

2) I could have mx and DNS entry different for example :

www.ong.net.IN  A   202.154.1.1
www1.ong.net.  IN   A   202.154.1.2

You see now ? it's different for MX it could be

ong.net.IN  MX  10  202.154.1.1
branch.ong.net. IN  MX  20  202.154.1.2

Meaning :
1) Mail with ong.net domains go to email server 202.154.1.1
2) Mail with branch.ong.net domains go to email server 202.154.1.2

Btw I am not sure what you're asking, here's a general point


Regards,
Leonard Ong, CCNP, CCDP, CSE, LCP
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Help

[Ahmed s]

Hi Everyone

I Got a used router that is giving a booting problem. I included a copy of 
the booting information below. The router is 2502 with two serial interfaces 
and one Token Ring interface. Can Some body please help me find a solution. 
If you break the boot process, I get the > sign and the router hangs. Any 
help will be highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance to all the helpers

**
System Bootstrap, Version (3.3), SOFTWARE
Copyright (c) 1986-1993 by cisco Systems
2500 processor with 4096 Kbytes of main memory

Illegal IP keyword - mroute-cache
Illegal IP keyword - classless
Booting c2500-d-l_113-6.bin from Flash address space
F3: 6033236+75788+365780 at 0x360

  Restricted Rights Legend

Use, duplication, or disclosure by the Government is
subject to restrictions as set forth in subparagraph
(c) of the Commercial Computer Software - Restricted
Rights clause at FAR sec. 52.227-19 and subparagraph
(c) (1) (ii) of the Rights in Technical Data and Computer
Software clause at DFARS sec. 252.227-7013.

   cisco Systems, Inc.
   170 West Tasman Drive
   San Jose, California 95134-1706



Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-D-L), Version 11.3(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 06-Oct-98 21:59 by kpma
Image text-base: 0x03032774, data-base: 0x1000

cisco 2500 (68030) processor (revision B) with 4096K/2048K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 01231079, with hardware revision 
Bridging software.
X.25 software, Version 3.0.0.
1 Token Ring/IEEE 802.5 interface(s)
2 Serial network interface(s)
32K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY)



Press RETURN to get started!


00:00:23: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial0, changed state to down
00:00:23: %LINK-3-UPDOWN: Interface Serial1, changed state to down
00:00:24: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial0, changed 
state
to down
00:00:24: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface Serial1, changed 
state
to down
00:00:24: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on Interface TokenRing0, 
changed st
ate to down
00:00:25: %SYS-5-CONFIG_I: Configured from memory by console
00:00:26: %SYS-5-RESTART: System restarted --
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-D-L), Version 11.3(6), RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1998 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 06-Oct-98 21:59 by kpma
00:00:26: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface Serial0, changed state to 
administratively
down
00:00:27: %LINK-5-CHANGED: Interface TokenRing0, changed state to 
administrative
ly down



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Can boards from a Cisco 7513 be swapped into a Cisco 7000?

[rtc]

 


We tried and the board from the 7500 didn't even light up.
 
 A coworker mumbled something about Flashing var, or reloading
 
 RAM...what should we do; can we even do it...

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RE: Bus Topology and Ethernet

[Francisco Muniz]

Ethernet (as well as token ring) use a 
physical star topology. There's a center (the hub, switch, or MAU) and a series 
of spokes attached to it. I think a physical implementation of a ring would be 
like an old style ethernet ("bus style" - 10base5 I think) where the last 
computer connects to the first, wouldn't it? What do you 
think?
 
Francisco Muniz.

  "Oscar Rau" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió en 
  el mensaje de noticias 000901bfec6d$475cd5c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">000901bfec6d$475cd5c0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I was reading about network topology and they say 
  that an example of bus topology is Ethernet network. Wouldn't ethernet network 
  be a ring topology due to
  hub/switch environment?
   
  Please correct me where I am wrong.
   
  Thank you in advance.
   
  Oscar Rau
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   

How do you make a Cisco 2501 and Cisco 3000 Talk?

[rtc]

...on the Serial Ports? The Cisco 3000 has a 50 PIN serial V2 cable
 and the Cisco 2501 has a standard serial port, like that on the back
 of a PC.What type of cable should i use? There are perhaps 4 different
types, I think
 in the manuals, RS-232, X.25 The manuals do show connecting the
Routers to hubs,switches, etc, BUT NOT EACH OTHER.

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Re: CCIE ISP-Dial Training Labs

[prabs]

Hi carlos
I have just started preparing for CCIE ISP dialAny tips..
suggestions?
What books did you study from?
Thanks.. any help is appreciated.


Carlos Patriawan wrote:

> Hi Gang, Is there any CCIE Labs Preparation in US or Europe for
> ISP-Dial ,much like R&S Lab in Wichita Univ, etc. ? Just wondering
> ... Cheers, Carlos Patriawan, CCNA, CCIE ISP-Dial (Candidate-passed
> written)

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Re: WIN2K and PIX

[Kenny Sallee]

I guess this was to TUFF for y'all huh?  
Actually I've already determined that it will work, but is not recommeded..The 
problem I was having was caused by another firewall ( checkpoint...).  The 
PIX was setup correctly.  You can also use the same command to permit 
Xwindows sessions thru the firewallFor Xwindows this is what I 
did:
 
established tcp 0 6000 permitto tcp 6000 permitfrom 
tcp 1024-65535
 
This says "if there is a connection from any source 
port to destination port 6000, permit return packets with destination port 6000 
and source port range between 1024-65535".   
 
Kenny

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kenny 
  Sallee 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 6:20 
PM
  Subject: WIN2K and PIX
  
  Has anyone needed to allow all Win2k admin BS 
  through a PIX firewall?  RPC is about the only thing not working.  
  I've got it opened up 100% - including the following for RPC:
   
  established 
  tcp 0 135 permitto tcp 135 permitfrom tcp 1024-65535
   
  Anyone 
  dealt with this before?  There are Win2K boxes off of DMZs that need to 
  communicate all the Win2k Active Directory 
  s#&tThanks
   
  Kenny

Bus Topology and Ethernet

[Oscar Rau]

I was reading about network topology and they say 
that an example of bus topology is Ethernet network. Wouldn't ethernet network 
be a ring topology due to
hub/switch environment?
 
Please correct me where I am wrong.
 
Thank you in advance.
 
Oscar Rau
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 

Update on: { I think I was right??? (PPP question) }

[NeoLink2000]

Hey Groupies, 8)
Well, I actually called the headhunter and tried to tell them that their 
answer was wrong. The recruiter put me on the phone with their head tech guy 
and we figured out where I was confused. Here was the question:

Which statement is true when it comes to PPP? (something like this)
a.) It dynamically assigns IP addresses.
b.) It can be synchronous, but not asynchronous
c.) It can be asynchronous, but not synchronous
d.) {I forget what this one was but it was wrong also}

They had told me that the answer was A, and that this was directly taken from 
a CCNA track test. PPP can dynamically assign IP addresses when using remote 
dial-up, etc. The way that they had the question worded, I didn't even think 
they were talking about this. I thought it meant when you configure an 
interface. He said this was one of those questions where all of the other 
questions were so wrong that this had to be right. In other words, it was one 
of those "choose the BEST answer" questions. Well, at least I tried. Thanks 
for all of your responses...now I can relax and get my head out of the damn 
books 8)

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
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What is the recommended order to do the CCNP 2.0 exams in?

[Greg Kirkness]

I have recently completed my CCNA, and wish to start my CCNP papers next.
Can someone suggest the best order to pursue the papers in? I am not working
in the networking field yet, so have little hands-on experience.

Previous posts have indicated the BCRAN exam is comparitively straight
forward, and there are study guides already available for it. Would this be
a good or poor choice for a starting exam?

Also, what sort of lab equipment would I require for the BCRAN?

Cheers

Greg Kirkness
Systems Engineer
Computerland
New Zealand


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Re: I think I was right??? (PPP question)

[PK]

IPCP assigns Ip address in a PPP session.


"Croyle, James" wrote:

> Reference page 105 of BCRAN by Cisco Press, PPP functional components
> include establishing and configuring network-layer protocols such at IP,
> IPX, and AppleTalk. We discussed it here, then looked it up to be sure.  :-)
>
> The Network Wizards.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:50 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: I think I was right??? (PPP question)
>
> Hey Groupies, 8)
> I've got a question for you. Today I was called by a headhunter. After
> talking about what I was looking for he asked me if he could test me on my
> CCNA knowledge. The questions were multiple choice. There were 10 questions
> and I got 8/10 right. One of the wrong ones, I know I got wrong, but the
> other I'm skeptical about. It was something about PPP, and the answer was
> that PPP assigns IP addresses itself for it's communication. I don't think
> this is right. I have worked on labs where we configure the encapsulation
> for
> PPP, and we assign our own IP addresses. So I don't know why the answer
> could
> be "totally" correct. I tried to go through my CCNA books, and even tried to
>
> find this in my CCDA/CCNP books but found nothing on PPP assigning it's own
> IP's. Can somebody let me know if I was right, and if I am wrong could you
> point me towards a link, or page numbers proving this info. I want to call
> this guy back and let him know if his test was wrong. I think it would make
> me look a lot better, even though he said I did great. So basically my
> question is: Does PPP assign it's own IP addresses? Thanks for the help
> group,
>
> Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a
> Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and
> explode once a year killing everyone inside.
> ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~
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Book: Inside Cisco IOS

[Chris McCoy]

I've been reading about a book on Cisco Press' 
website called Inside Cisco IOS by Russ White et al.  Has anyone heard 
anything good/bad about this book?  I haven't been able to buy it anyplace 
but there are a few individuals that are auctioning the book off.  I'm only 
curious because it was delayed.  Originally to be published in June, now CP 
is saying August.  
 
Thanks,
Chris M.

CCIE lab troubleshooting

[Aaron K. Dixon]

For those of you that haven't heard Cisco has changed how the
troubleshooting section on the lab is structured.

Previously, the proctors would insert faults into your network and would be
required to document them.  Now you may get the second method which requires
downloading all new router configurations from a tftp server.  You will then
be given a network diagram and required to troubleshoot this unknown
network.  This is to make it more closly resemble real-life where typically
there are different people that do the design and support.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon
WAN Element Manager - Cisco
Omnes, A Schlumberger Company

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Re: What is BPDU?

[Roman]

Bridge Protocol Data Unit - datagram exchanged between switches for Spanning
Tree Protocol - to provide a loop-free network.

Roman


At 06:20 PM 7/12/00 -0500, you wrote:
>I got this questions and choices were like unicast to wellknown addresses,
>multicast or broadcast. Does anybody know what it's exactly?
>
>Thanks!
>
>
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What is BPDU?

[Ruslan Moskalenko]

I got this questions and choices were like unicast to wellknown addresses,
multicast or broadcast. Does anybody know what it's exactly?

Thanks!


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RE: I think I was right??? (PPP question)

[Croyle, James]

Reference page 105 of BCRAN by Cisco Press, PPP functional components
include establishing and configuring network-layer protocols such at IP,
IPX, and AppleTalk. We discussed it here, then looked it up to be sure.  :-)

The Network Wizards.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: I think I was right??? (PPP question)


Hey Groupies, 8)
I've got a question for you. Today I was called by a headhunter. After 
talking about what I was looking for he asked me if he could test me on my 
CCNA knowledge. The questions were multiple choice. There were 10 questions 
and I got 8/10 right. One of the wrong ones, I know I got wrong, but the 
other I'm skeptical about. It was something about PPP, and the answer was 
that PPP assigns IP addresses itself for it's communication. I don't think 
this is right. I have worked on labs where we configure the encapsulation
for 
PPP, and we assign our own IP addresses. So I don't know why the answer
could 
be "totally" correct. I tried to go through my CCNA books, and even tried to

find this in my CCDA/CCNP books but found nothing on PPP assigning it's own 
IP's. Can somebody let me know if I was right, and if I am wrong could you 
point me towards a link, or page numbers proving this info. I want to call 
this guy back and let him know if his test was wrong. I think it would make 
me look a lot better, even though he said I did great. So basically my 
question is: Does PPP assign it's own IP addresses? Thanks for the help 
group, 

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ 

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Re: SmartNet & software updates

[Will]

>From what I understand, SmartNet will allow you to upgrade from 11.x to 12.x
with the same feature pack. If you want added features, like Enterprise, you
need to pay for it. Buying Enterprise will probably cost more than the
router. Good luck.

Will
"Glenn Flood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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All,

I desperately need to upgrade the IOS on my 2621 to ver 12.0(?) Enterprise
release so that I can get through some labs and was wondering if someone
could advise me on how SmartNet works. If I buy a contract will this enable
me to upgrade to a better IOS? Or am I just better off buy the upgrade IOS?
Thanks,
Glenn

Glenn FloodMCSE, MCP+I, MCT, CCNA, CNA, A+




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support2.0

[godonizuka]

   Can I use the old study materials of CIT to prepare support2.0,do
the two exams ( CIT and support2.0) have the same objectives? Please
reply me via e-mail,because maybe i can't see my message on the
message list, Thank you.

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I think I was right??? (PPP question)

[NeoLink2000]

Hey Groupies, 8)
I've got a question for you. Today I was called by a headhunter. After 
talking about what I was looking for he asked me if he could test me on my 
CCNA knowledge. The questions were multiple choice. There were 10 questions 
and I got 8/10 right. One of the wrong ones, I know I got wrong, but the 
other I'm skeptical about. It was something about PPP, and the answer was 
that PPP assigns IP addresses itself for it's communication. I don't think 
this is right. I have worked on labs where we configure the encapsulation for 
PPP, and we assign our own IP addresses. So I don't know why the answer could 
be "totally" correct. I tried to go through my CCNA books, and even tried to 
find this in my CCDA/CCNP books but found nothing on PPP assigning it's own 
IP's. Can somebody let me know if I was right, and if I am wrong could you 
point me towards a link, or page numbers proving this info. I want to call 
this guy back and let him know if his test was wrong. I think it would make 
me look a lot better, even though he said I did great. So basically my 
question is: Does PPP assign it's own IP addresses? Thanks for the help 
group, 

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~ 

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Re: Passed CCDA!

[godonizuka]

Well done!!!Congratulations

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Private AS

[Kevin L. Kultgen]

Everyone knows that the Private IP Address Ranges are:

10.0.0.0/8
172.16.0.0/12
192.168.0.0/16

I've just found out (a few days ago) that the Private AS Range is:

64512 to 65535

Much to the chagrin of my predecessor who used a Public AS number (Some HP
company) with the 192.168/16 private IP address range, not that there is
anything wrong but I like to be consistant.  (and who gets stuck with the
renumbering of the AS?  wasn't all that hard... just time consuming, no
downtime allowed)

And YES, from what I can tell private AS numbers can be BGP advertised into
another AS with the AS information stripped so it looks like your AS is in
your providers AS. Of course, as long as your IP network is public

Just a tidbit

Kevin L. Kultgen
MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, CNX-A, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW
IRIS Systems Inc,  MCSP
Calgary, Alberta

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Re: Modem baud rate

[John Hardman]

Hi

It depends a rather their is a digital line feeding the IPS's modems or not.
If it is digital (ISDN PRI or T-Span) then V.90 will work. But if you are
going analog to analog, then your likely to get a best possible connect rate
of 33.6

Since there are both digital and analog modems for the 26/3600 series, it
sound like they added a analog card of modems.
--
John Hardman, MCSE+I, CCNA


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> If you are connecting through regular phone lines, that will be your
maximum
> speed.  It is not like dialing into an ISP where you will connect up to
> 53.6K.  We just had this discussion today about upgrading a modem pool,
and
> saw that we really wouldn't get very much improvement on regular users
> dialing in if we upgraded out 28.8K's to 56K V.90.  I can't answer the
other
> half of your question.
>
> As usual, send any corrections if I am wrong.  :-)
>
> Jim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Asad Jafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 5:54 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Modem baud rate
>
>
> I have configured 2611 router with a 8 port modem card to do RAS. for some
> reason it ony connects at the speed of 31K i have set the baud rate at the
> router and also at client to be 115200 bps. Any clue why?
> Also is there a way to add the NT domian name in the router so it will
check
> username, password and domain to authenticate.
>
> Thanks for the input.
>
>
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BGP question

[Hixon Sgt James R Jr]

Cisco recommends advertising an internal network into a BGP using a Static
Route.
How would the static route of

ip route 148.132.0.0 0.0.255.255 null 0

be able to route the network on the internal network. The null 0 would drop
the packet from being routed. The Cisco White paper on BGP says that it
would be matched to a more specific address than above, and be routed out
the appropriatte interface. 

Could someone explain exactly how this is true?

Thanks allot.

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RE: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

You think that's bad, how about this:

"DNS is provided by TCP/IP to resolve the name into address. Because 
queries sent by name cannot be forwarded by routers since routers cannot 
trace names but only address. Their are centralized name servers that store 
a database of all required services by names and their respective address."

Seriously, the site has some good writing and some bad writing and some 
Cisco papers. I'm sure the site will "evolve" since the Cisco police will 
not let them get away with publishing Cisco's materials.

And I doubt Cisco approves of this yellow picture of John Chambers!? ;-)

http://www.samw.com/news/newsarticle10.asp?newsarticleid=10

P.



At 04:35 PM 7/12/00, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>At least they copied correct information in that section.  It does show a 
>"reproduced with permission of Cisco."  Other sections...
>
>Their OSI section puts ZIP in the OSI session layer and NBP in the 
>transport layer.
>
>I'd really hesitate to say the link level header and trailer are part of a 
>network message -- which they do.
>
>They assert that AppleTalk network addresses are defined by zones.
>
>MAC addresses only come from BIAs. Right.
>
>I'm glad to know Group IV fax is a high-speed image application. Guess I 
>can put off ordering that OC-192.
>
>
>>
>>
>>This site gives me major heartburn:
>>
>>I hate it when I see the words that I wrote on a Web page that I had 
>>nothing to do with. I'll let Cisco and Cisco Press know that the authors 
>>of this site seem to have stolen the words that I wrote that are 
>>copyrighted by Cisco and became the Designing Cisco Networks class. In 
>>particular, the "Design the Topology" section here: 
>>http://www.samw.com/design/design_network_topology.asp? is a direct copy 
>>and paste; even the pictures are the same.
>>
>>Also, how can they review your topology and know that it will work if 
>>they don't ask you anything about your requirements, applications, etc? I 
>>don't think they can help much since all they ask you to provide is a 
>>Visio or PowerPoint topology diagram.
>>
>>Priscilla
>>
>>
>>>I haven't used their service but I think this is what you're looking for
>>>
>>>daveh
>>>
>>>-Original Message-
>>>From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 5:14 PM
>>>To: Jeff Walzer; 'Cisco'
>>>Subject: Re: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?
>>>
>>>
>>>Jeff,
>>>
>>>How about posting it on GroupStudy.com and the mailing list can take a look?
>>>It would be good exercise for CCDP/CCDA candidates.
>>>
>>>Paul
>>>- Original Message -
>>>From: Jeff Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: 'Cisco' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:22 PM
>>>Subject: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?
>>>
>>>
>>>  > Someone posted the web site for a company that would allow you to 
>>> submit a
>>>  > copy of your proposed network topology and they would review it and make
>>>  > suggestions at no charge. Does anyone remember the web address?
>>>  >
>>>  > Thanks,
>>>  > Jeff
>>>  >
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>>
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>>http://www.priscilla.com
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http://www.priscilla.com

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RE: Any special ports for Outlook Web access?

[Syed, Junaid]

and https

-Original Message-
From: swapnil [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 6:18 AM
To: Daniel Ma; Cisco (E-mail)
Subject: Re: Any special ports for Outlook Web access?


just enabling http port will do it

Swapnil Jain
(CNE, MCSE, CCNA)
ICQ# 45074571
- Original Message -
From: Daniel Ma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Cisco (E-mail) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 11:04 AM
Subject: Any special ports for Outlook Web access?


> Sorry, a little out of topic.
>
> We have installed an MS Exchange server behind the firewall, and opened
the
> SMTP port for it. Now the customer requires Outlook Web Access. I just
> wonder whether we should open any other ports for this service, or just
HTTP
> will do.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Daniel Ma
> Systems Engineer
> Enterprise Computing Unit
> Infonet Systems & Services Pte Ltd
> DID: (65)4616095 Fax: 4792289
>
>
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RE: Modem baud rate

[Croyle, James]

If you are connecting through regular phone lines, that will be your maximum
speed.  It is not like dialing into an ISP where you will connect up to
53.6K.  We just had this discussion today about upgrading a modem pool, and
saw that we really wouldn't get very much improvement on regular users
dialing in if we upgraded out 28.8K's to 56K V.90.  I can't answer the other
half of your question.
 
As usual, send any corrections if I am wrong.  :-)
 
Jim

-Original Message-
From: Asad Jafari [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 5:54 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Modem baud rate


I have configured 2611 router with a 8 port modem card to do RAS. for some
reason it ony connects at the speed of 31K i have set the baud rate at the
router and also at client to be 115200 bps. Any clue why?
Also is there a way to add the NT domian name in the router so it will check
username, password and domain to authenticate. 
 
Thanks for the input.
 

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Modem baud rate

[Asad Jafari]

I have configured 2611 router with a 8 port modem 
card to do RAS. for some reason it ony connects at the speed of 31K i have set 
the baud rate at the router and also at client to be 115200 bps. Any clue 
why?
Also is there a way to add the NT domian name in 
the router so it will check username, password and domain to authenticate. 

 
Thanks for the input.
 

Re: Off topic: how is that possible?

[John Green]

DNS = domain name server

domain name servers host the database for the 
mapping between domain names and IP addresses.
This is how you go to a www.yahoo.com etc. 
also this is how when you address email to say

[EMAIL PROTECTED] is sent to the mail server which
is accepting mail for the domain indchem.

hope its clear. don;t get confused with different ISPs
etc. as long as your mail servers, web servers, ftp
servers are hosted on routable IP addresses on the 
internet everyone who can reach them.
hope it helped. 


--- Suresh_Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi listers,
> Im actually a newbie to this list. Could someone
> tell me how Im getting my mail trafficked onto my
> exchange server. The reason why Im asking is this my
> domin is hosted by some ISP somewhere in US but our
> corporate HQ is somewhere in Asia forget bout where
> we are sitting!
> 
> We are (HQ) hooked to the Internet thro a local ISP
> on a dedicated link using "global static IP
> addresses" for browsing and for mailing through our
> MS-Exchange mail server. Im just wondering how they
> go together I find that my www.x.com address is
> different from the ones given by our local IP
> address range.
> 
> If a mail arises in where do they travel go across
> before reaching my mail server?
> 
> How the hosting of "www site" and the mail server
> which are with different ISPs in differrent part of
> world are goes together ofcourse with all the
> ftp,dns stuffs.
> 
> Can someone pour some light to this I will be very
> much grateful to them
> 
> cheers!
> suresh
> 
> 
> 
> 


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RE: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?

[Howard C. Berkowitz]

At least they copied correct information in that section.  It does 
show a "reproduced with permission of Cisco."  Other sections...

Their OSI section puts ZIP in the OSI session layer and NBP in the 
transport layer.

I'd really hesitate to say the link level header and trailer are part 
of a network message -- which they do.

They assert that AppleTalk network addresses are defined by zones.

MAC addresses only come from BIAs. Right.

I'm glad to know Group IV fax is a high-speed image application. 
Guess I can put off ordering that OC-192.


>
>
>This site gives me major heartburn:
>
>I hate it when I see the words that I wrote on a Web page that I had 
>nothing to do with. I'll let Cisco and Cisco Press know that the 
>authors of this site seem to have stolen the words that I wrote that 
>are copyrighted by Cisco and became the Designing Cisco Networks 
>class. In particular, the "Design the Topology" section here: 
>http://www.samw.com/design/design_network_topology.asp? is a direct 
>copy and paste; even the pictures are the same.
>
>Also, how can they review your topology and know that it will work 
>if they don't ask you anything about your requirements, 
>applications, etc? I don't think they can help much since all they 
>ask you to provide is a Visio or PowerPoint topology diagram.
>
>Priscilla
>
>
>>I haven't used their service but I think this is what you're looking for
>>
>>daveh
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 5:14 PM
>>To: Jeff Walzer; 'Cisco'
>>Subject: Re: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?
>>
>>
>>Jeff,
>>
>>How about posting it on GroupStudy.com and the mailing list can take a look?
>>It would be good exercise for CCDP/CCDA candidates.
>>
>>Paul
>>- Original Message -
>>From: Jeff Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: 'Cisco' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:22 PM
>>Subject: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?
>>
>>
>>  > Someone posted the web site for a company that would allow you to submit a
>>  > copy of your proposed network topology and they would review it and make
>>  > suggestions at no charge. Does anyone remember the web address?
>>  >
>>  > Thanks,
>>  > Jeff
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service nagle

[Kevin L. Kultgen]

I've implemented service nagle on our routers (most 
only have a saturated 56K connection) and the performance seems a little 
better.  My question has to do with the fact that Cisco states do not use 
this with X-Remote and X-Windows.  We aren't running any *nix stuff so I'm 
OK but I was wondering if any one knew what the issues are?  What kinda 
symptons would appear?
 
Thanx
 
Kevin L. KultgenMCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, CNX-A, A+, 
Network+, i-Net+/CIWIRIS Systems Inc,  MCSPCalgary, 
Alberta

Re: dilemma.

[Timothy Harkin]

BRAVO!!!


From: Jorge Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: Jorge Rodriguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Oz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: dilemma.
Date: Tue, 11 Jul 2000 16:13:47 -0400 (EDT)

This has been the best  answer I have ever seen 
It is hard to find these kind of thoughts these days in the year 2000.

sheers
Rgds


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Sent: July 11, 2000 2:42:03 PM GMT
Subject: Re: dilemma.


Folks,
 > What is our final goal, get a paper(ccna, ccnp, ccie) or
 > actually learn everything about cisco.

None of the above..
To have fun, be a better father and husband.
Laugh a lot
Do what I can to the best of my ability.
Know what I know and know what I don't know.
All the other stuff will come along by default.
Enjoy life.
Strive to get to the point in life where you do what you want to do, rather
than do what you have to do .
it's a fine line  for sure  but you will know when you step over it
Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm

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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

[John Neiberger]

Yes, all of our configurations are point-to-point on both ends.  we have no
multipoint interfaces in our network.

>  Just had another thought...   Are you using point-to-point subinterfaces
at
>  the remote end also? If not, that could be your problem...  because I
>  think if you don't specify its a point to point SUB-interface the regular
>  interface is going to assume its multipoint.  Then you can go with
>  Priscilla's idea.
>  
>  Cory
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:44 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: RE: CDP not working on subinterface
>  
>  
>  We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
>  configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
>  interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
>  but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs
and
>  IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
>  they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
>  packets".
>  
>  Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first
brought
>  the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
>  strange...
>  
>  >  This is purely a guess...
>  >  
>  >  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast
keyword
>  
>  >  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  >  
>  >  Priscilla
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
>  that
>  >  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each
end
>  of
>  >  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >  >
>  >  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >  >
>  >  >John
>  >  >
>  >  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  -Mag
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  
>  >  > >  Magnus Thorne
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>  >  > >
>  >  > >  -Original Message-
>  >  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  >  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  >  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either
globally
>  or
>  >  >at
>  >  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the
remote
>  side
>  >  >I
>  >  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
>  one of
>  >  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No
changes
>  were
>  >  >made
>  >  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
>  particular
>  >  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  >  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report
their
>  cdp
>  >  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >  >subinterface.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's
>  happened at
>  >  > >  least twice in our network.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  TIA,
>  >  > >  John Neiberger
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
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Re: Correct show syntax for access lists

[Kevin Wigle]

When studying for the exams my interpretation was this:

Use "show access-lists" when you're looking at all of them

Use "show access-list x" when you're looking at one of them.

for the exams anyway.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP, CCNP

- Original Message - 
From: "Keith Woodworth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: July 12, 2000 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: Correct show syntax for access lists


> 
> 
> On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Timothy W. Roberts wrote:
> 
> >>This is relating to taking exams:
> >>
> >>The ACRC Student Guide states that the command to view ALL access-lists
> >>on a router is - show access-list.  But on the router is shows it as
> >>being - show access-lists (with an s).  Which one will the test want?
> >>Will either work?
> 
> they both work on the routers I have here. I would assume that since a 
> 
> sh access?
>  
> brings up access-lists that would be the one for the test since its the
> one on the router.
> 
> Keith
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Re: cannot map new DLCI

[peter . paul]

You get that type of an error if you previously created that DLCI and then
deleted it, but did not re-boot the router. Once you re-boot the router it
should work.




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Dear all,

I'm trying to configure my router to have a new  DLCI on one of the sub
interfaces.
When trying to map that DLCI on "int ser 1/0.x"  with DLCI number xyz I receive
the error "DLCI xyz is already assigned to int  ser 1/0"
Using the show frame-relay map doesn't show if  there is DLCI xyz assigned to
any interface..
I tried to use "Show frame-relay pvc xyz" command,  that didn't show any thing,
as if that DLCI is not there at all
What could be the problem?

Best regards,
ref



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Re: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

Sorry! I didn't notice that. I guess I over-reacted. I would be surprised 
to hear if they got permission to post words that are part of Cisco's 
training curriculum and one of the Cisco Press books, but maybe they did.

I guess I sound a bit like that guy from Metallica who is up in arms 
against Napster! ;-)

Priscilla


At 04:16 PM 7/12/00, you wrote:
>Priscilla,
>   Could it be that they got permission? It says this at the bottom of 
> those pages:
>
>"These materials have been reproduced by SAMW Inc. with the permission
> of Cisco Systems Inc.
>Copyright Cisco Systems, Inc. All Rights Reserved"
>
>Larry
>
>Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
>
> > At 01:26 PM 7/12/00, Dave Hennen wrote:
> > >try this link
> > >
> > >http://www.samw.com/design/designyournetwork.asp?
> >
> > This site gives me major heartburn:
> >
> > I hate it when I see the words that I wrote on a Web page that I had
> > nothing to do with. I'll let Cisco and Cisco Press know that the authors of
> > this site seem to have stolen the words that I wrote that are copyrighted
> > by Cisco and became the Designing Cisco Networks class. In particular, the
> > "Design the Topology" section here:
> > http://www.samw.com/design/design_network_topology.asp? is a direct copy
> > and paste; even the pictures are the same.
> >
> > Also, how can they review your topology and know that it will work if they
> > don't ask you anything about your requirements, applications, etc? I don't
> > think they can help much since all they ask you to provide is a Visio or
> > PowerPoint topology diagram.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > >I haven't used their service but I think this is what you're looking for
> > >
> > >daveh
> > >
> > >-Original Message-
> > >From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 5:14 PM
> > >To: Jeff Walzer; 'Cisco'
> > >Subject: Re: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?
> > >
> > >
> > >Jeff,
> > >
> > >How about posting it on GroupStudy.com and the mailing list can take a 
> look?
> > >It would be good exercise for CCDP/CCDA candidates.
> > >
> > >Paul
> > >- Original Message -
> > >From: Jeff Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: 'Cisco' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:22 PM
> > >Subject: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?
> > >
> > >
> > > > Someone posted the web site for a company that would allow you to 
> submit a
> > > > copy of your proposed network topology and they would review it and 
> make
> > > > suggestions at no charge. Does anyone remember the web address?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Jeff
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RE: ´ð¸´: 2509 Terminal Server

[Westmoreland, Alexis]

Hi Hou, I am a Ms, not a Sir. When I use the config from Caslow's book I can
do a reverse telnet by simply entering r1 thru r8 the 1st time. Then you do
a "ctrl, shift, ^, then x" to return to the termserver. After that you only
have to enter the session # (i.e. 1 for r1, 2 for r2, etc..).

However, I did erase my config from the terminal server (2509) and loaded
the config that you indicated in your note. However when I tried the
following, I got the following error.

termserver#telnet 127.0.0.1 2001
% Invalid IP address

Maybe there is a step missing. I know there is usually more than one way to
do something and I am certainly always open to learn another way.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:56 AM
To: 'Westmoreland, Alexis'
Subject: ´ð¸´: 2509 Terminal Server


Dear Sir,
The 'loopback' interface and 'ip host' command is only to make config easy.
It do not need to config.
Regards.
Hou Li

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??: RE: 2509 Terminal Server


Li, have u gotten yr term server working yet? u also need the following:

config#int loopback 0
config-if#ip addr 1.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
config-if#exit
config#ip host r1 2001 1.1.1.1
config#ip host r2 2002 1.1.1.1
...
...
config#ip host r8 2008 1.1.1.1

This can be found in "Bridges, routers & switches for ccies by Caslow".


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Subject: Re: 2509 Terminal Server



config#line 1-8
config(line)#modem inout
config(line)#trans input all
#telnet 127.0.0.1 2001~2008

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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

[John Neiberger]

The PVC is working perfectly, except for CDP.  It's configured exactly like
the 89 other subinterfaces on that major interface, so I doubt it's a
configuration issue, but it still may be.  The remote side has two PVCs on
one major interface and CDP is working on one subinterface only and they,
too, are configured exactly the same except for DLCI and IP address.

Keep throwing out ideas, this is a stange one! :-)

>  John,
>  
>  Is it just CDP not working or is the whole PVC showing as inactive?  
I've
>  seen where if LMI was configured incorrectly at the remote end when the
>  router was first brought up it would come up but after a minute or so go
>  down because it wasn't receiving lmi keepalives from the switch.  In this
>  case it was a telco switch problem and I do know that LMI is supposed to
be
>  autosensing with the newer software.   
>  
>  If it is just CDP down I would have suggested something to do with the
>  timers but you said the remote end isn't receiving any packets at all?
>  Hmmm.
>  
>  Stumper.
>  
>  Just throwing out some ideas for ya.   Let us know when you get it
figured
>  out.
>  
>  Thanks
>  Cory
>  
>  -Original Message-
>  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:44 PM
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: RE: CDP not working on subinterface
>  
>  
>  We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
>  configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
>  interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
>  but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs
and
>  IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
>  they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
>  packets".
>  
>  Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first
brought
>  the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
>  strange...
>  
>  >  This is purely a guess...
>  >  
>  >  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast
keyword
>  
>  >  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  >  
>  >  Priscilla
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  
>  >  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
>  that
>  >  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each
end
>  of
>  >  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >  >
>  >  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >  >
>  >  >John
>  >  >
>  >  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  -Mag
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  
>  >  > >  Magnus Thorne
>  >  > >  eVoice, Inc.
>  >  > >  1394 Williow Road
>  >  > >  Menlo Park, CA 94025
>  >  > >  Direct: 650.330.3974
>  >  > >  Main: 650.330.3700
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>  >  > >  
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>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  -Original Message-
>  >  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  >  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  >  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  >  > >
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either
globally
>  or
>  >  >at
>  >  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the
remote
>  side
>  >  >I
>  >  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
>  one of
>  >  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No
changes
>  were
>  >  >made
>  >  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
>  particular
>  >  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  >  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report
their
>  cdp
>  >  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >  >subinterface.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's
>  happened at
>  >  > >  least twice in our network.
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  >  > >
>  >  > >  TIA,
>  >  > >  John Neiberger
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Re: hard loop ?

[John Neiberger]

Perhaps they are referring to inserting a loopback plug into the NIU or
extended demarc instead of activating a software loopback inside the csu/dsu
or router.

>  When telco refers to hard loop on a ckt as opposed to a loop on a ckt...
can
>  anyone tell me the difference?
>  thanks,
>  JD
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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

[Stull, Cory]

John,

Is it just CDP not working or is the whole PVC showing as inactive?   I've
seen where if LMI was configured incorrectly at the remote end when the
router was first brought up it would come up but after a minute or so go
down because it wasn't receiving lmi keepalives from the switch.  In this
case it was a telco switch problem and I do know that LMI is supposed to be
autosensing with the newer software.   

If it is just CDP down I would have suggested something to do with the
timers but you said the remote end isn't receiving any packets at all?
Hmmm.

Stumper.

Just throwing out some ideas for ya.   Let us know when you get it figured
out.

Thanks
Cory

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:44 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CDP not working on subinterface


We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs and
IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
packets".

Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first brought
the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
strange...

>  This is purely a guess...
>  
>  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast keyword

>  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  
>  Priscilla
>  
>  
>  
>  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
that
>  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each end
of
>  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >
>  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >
>  >John
>  >
>  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  > >
>  > >  -Mag
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > >  Magnus Thorne
>  > >  eVoice, Inc.
>  > >  1394 Williow Road
>  > >  Menlo Park, CA 94025
>  > >  Direct: 650.330.3974
>  > >  Main: 650.330.3700
>  > >  Fax: 650.330.3901
>  > >  
>  > >  eVoice. The best voicemail you can buy is free.
>  > >  Sign up at www.evoice.com or call 1.800.GET.EVOICE
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  -Original Message-
>  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally
or
>  >at
>  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote
side
>  >I
>  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
one of
>  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes
were
>  >made
>  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
particular
>  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their
cdp
>  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >subinterface.
>  > >
>  > >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's
happened at
>  > >  least twice in our network.
>  > >
>  > >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  > >
>  > >  TIA,
>  > >  John Neiberger
>  > >
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Re: Correct show syntax for access lists

[Keith Woodworth]

On Wed, 12 Jul 2000, Timothy W. Roberts wrote:

>>This is relating to taking exams:
>>
>>The ACRC Student Guide states that the command to view ALL access-lists
>>on a router is - show access-list.  But on the router is shows it as
>>being - show access-lists (with an s).  Which one will the test want?
>>Will either work?

they both work on the routers I have here. I would assume that since a 

sh access?
 
brings up access-lists that would be the one for the test since its the
one on the router.

Keith

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cannot map new DLCI

[Refaat M. Saadi]

Dear all,
 
I'm trying to configure my router to have a new 
DLCI on one of the sub interfaces.
When trying to map that DLCI on "int ser 1/0.x" 
with DLCI number xyz I receive the error "DLCI xyz is already assigned to int 
ser 1/0"
Using the show frame-relay map doesn't show if 
there is DLCI xyz assigned to any interface..
I tried to use "Show frame-relay pvc xyz" command, 
that didn't show any thing, as if that DLCI is not there at all
What could be the problem?
 
Best regards,
ref

hard loop ?

[Jerry Deer]

When telco refers to hard loop on a ckt as opposed to a loop on a ckt... can
anyone tell me the difference?
thanks,
JD

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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

[John Neiberger]

We use entirely point-to-point subinterfaces, and we have no special
configuration on them regarding broadcasts.  On this particular major
interface, there are 90 subinterfaces and CDP is working just fine on all
but two of them.  They all have identical configs except for the DLCIs and
IP addresses.  "show cdp int" shows that CDP packets are being sent, but
they aren't being received at the opposite end, according to "debug cdp
packets".

Another oddity about this is that it worked correctly when I first brought
the circuit up for about a minute or so, and then it stopped.  Very
strange...

>  This is purely a guess...
>  
>  Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast keyword

>  on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.
>  
>  Priscilla
>  
>  
>  
>  At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>  >No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said
that
>  >it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each end
of
>  >the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>  >
>  >Thanks for the tip!
>  >
>  >John
>  >
>  > >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
>  > >
>  > >  -Mag
>  > >
>  > >  
>  > >  Magnus Thorne
>  > >  eVoice, Inc.
>  > >  1394 Williow Road
>  > >  Menlo Park, CA 94025
>  > >  Direct: 650.330.3974
>  > >  Main: 650.330.3700
>  > >  Fax: 650.330.3901
>  > >  
>  > >  eVoice. The best voicemail you can buy is free.
>  > >  Sign up at www.evoice.com or call 1.800.GET.EVOICE
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>  > >
>  > >  -Original Message-
>  > >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>  > >  Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 3:08 PM
>  > >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
>  > >
>  > >
>  > >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally
or
>  >at
>  > >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote
side
>  >I
>  > >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though,
one of
>  > >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes
were
>  >made
>  > >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This
particular
>  > >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
>  > >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their
cdp
>  > >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>  >subinterface.
>  > >
>  > >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's
happened at
>  > >  least twice in our network.
>  > >
>  > >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
>  > >
>  > >  TIA,
>  > >  John Neiberger
>  > >
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RE: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

At 01:26 PM 7/12/00, Dave Hennen wrote:
>try this link
>
>http://www.samw.com/design/designyournetwork.asp?


This site gives me major heartburn:

I hate it when I see the words that I wrote on a Web page that I had 
nothing to do with. I'll let Cisco and Cisco Press know that the authors of 
this site seem to have stolen the words that I wrote that are copyrighted 
by Cisco and became the Designing Cisco Networks class. In particular, the 
"Design the Topology" section here: 
http://www.samw.com/design/design_network_topology.asp? is a direct copy 
and paste; even the pictures are the same.

Also, how can they review your topology and know that it will work if they 
don't ask you anything about your requirements, applications, etc? I don't 
think they can help much since all they ask you to provide is a Visio or 
PowerPoint topology diagram.

Priscilla


>I haven't used their service but I think this is what you're looking for
>
>daveh
>
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>
>
>Jeff,
>
>How about posting it on GroupStudy.com and the mailing list can take a look?
>It would be good exercise for CCDP/CCDA candidates.
>
>Paul
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>
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> > suggestions at no charge. Does anyone remember the web address?
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Re: cid class guide for sale?

[Robert Padjen]

Have to plug the Sybex book too, which covers the
StrataCom items noted by Frank. Good luck. ;)
--- Frank Z <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> CID
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> 
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Re: E1 question

[Edward Solomon]

RE: E1 question> E1 is an Telecoms (ITU- previously CCITT) standard of long
standing not of Cisco origin. It
> uses Time Division Multiplexing technology (TDM) with 32 time slots. TS0
is for
> Synchronisation and in a Channel associated E1 TS 16 is the signalling
channel. In a CCS
> link  TS1 is often used. The data can be channelised ie each time slot is
a data channel or
> speech channel with mux  equipment at the end or one big pipe connecting
to a Router/PABX
> etc. (In this case the channels are all just used by the same source
etc.)In the telecom
> world, 30 speech channels of 64 kb/s are available. In a CCS group of E1's
only the first
> E1 needs a signalling channel so the remaining E1's provide 31 ccts. The
North American
> equivalent is a T1 which has only 24 ccts.
--

To my knowledge, this is not strictly true. E1 timeslot 0 is always used for
framing. Regarding timeslot 16, the signalling scheme chosen does not really
affect E1 in the same way as it does T1 (DS1).

Common Channel Signalling (CCS) in the world of E1 relies on timeslot 16
being used to carry signalling bits for the remaining 30 bearer channels.

Channel-Associated Signalling (CAS) requires the signalling bits to be
carried in timeslot 16 *as well*. T1 bit-robbing takes care of this in North
America, as the signalling bits are "robbed" from the individual bearer
channels. This effectively reduces the bandwidth in data communications
scenarios from 64kbps to 56kbps. However, E1 always uses timeslot 16 for
signalling purposes, regardless of whether you select CCS or CAS. In voice
implementations, this is quite critical. E1 multiframe integrity is
dependent upon the correct signalling bits being sent in each copy of
timeslot 16. The only occasion when timeslot 16 can be used as a bearer
channel is if the E1 service is configured as a "clear channel" service. In
this instance,  pure data (i.e. non-voice) environment does not care about
voice signalling bits and can use timeslot 16 for data purposes.

Edward Solomon
CCNA, CCSI
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Networking Solutions
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RE: AS_PATH manipulation

[Francisco Muniz]

Sorry, I don't know BGP yet. What is cisco-nsp? 
where is it? thank you!
 
Francisco.

  "Andy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  escribió en el mensaje de noticias 05cc01bfeb7d$92760270$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">05cc01bfeb7d$92760270$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Hi All,
   
  saw this on NANOG or cisco-nsp recently but can't 
  find it again for the life of me
   
  I need to advertise routes such that it looks 
  like I'm closer to an IXP/NAP than I really am - I need to strip an AS_PATH 
  hop out of my BGP advertisments.
   
  Say I'm AS1234 and upstream of me I have AS2345 
  (unlikely I know for those of you who know about AS# allocations - single 
  digits are way more hardcore).  Is there a way of advertising an 
  AS_PATH of "AS1234, AS2345, whatever", as "AS1234, whatever", so it appears 
  that I am one AS hop closer to the IXP/NAP than I am?
   
  I know there is a way to prepend a hop to 
  the path to make it one AS hop longer, but I sort of need to do the 
  reverse.  Believe there is a way in JUNOS but the IOS is teasing me once 
  again
   
  Any help much appreciated as always
   
  Andy

Re: "backup load" command

[John Neiberger]

Found on CCO, regard the backup-load command and disable-load keyword:

disable-load --  Integer that specifies a percentage of the primary line's
available bandwidth.


>  Hello
>  
>  I'm preparing for the BCRAN exam, and found some imbiguity in this
command.
>  backup load enable-threshold disable-load
>  
>  I understand that the disable-load is calculated based on the primary
line
>  utilization, at least this is what on CCO at:
> 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios100/rpcr/66003.h
>  tm
>  however in some study materials, it's assumed to be based on the total of
>  both primary and backup utilizations. Does anyone know what does Cisco
use
>  in the BCRAN class materials?
>  Thanks in advance.
>  
>  
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RE: CDP not working on subinterface

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

This is purely a guess...

Are you allowing broadcasts across the PVC by using the broadcast keyword 
on the frame-relay map command? CDP sends to a multicast address.

Priscilla



At 08:50 PM 7/11/00, John Neiberger wrote:
>No, I haven't done that, but I did "show cdp int" and the router said that
>it was sending cdp packets out that interface.  Both routers on each end of
>the link reported this.  I'll try debugging tomorrow.
>
>Thanks for the tip!
>
>John
>
> >  Did you run "debug cdp" to verify that it is being sent?
> >
> >  -Mag
> >
> >  
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> >  -Original Message-
> >  From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> >  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >  Subject: CDP not working on subinterface
> >
> >
> >  We do not have CDP disabled anywhere on our routers, either globally or
>at
> >  the interface level.  I brought up a new PVC today and at the remote side
>I
> >  could see both PVCs to that router.  After a few seconds, though, one of
> >  them disappeared from the "show cdp neighbors" output.  No changes were
>made
> >  to configs at either side, it just did this on it's own.  This particular
> >  PVC is terminating at a subinterface on both routers, and other
> >  subinterfaces on the major interfaces at each end still report their cdp
> >  neighbors correctly;  the problem is only on this particular
>subinterface.
> >
> >  I have noticed this in the past with a different PVC, so it's happened at
> >  least twice in our network.
> >
> >  any ideas why it works temporarily and then quits?
> >
> >  TIA,
> >  John Neiberger
> >
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Re: Is CVOICE1.0(1998) enough for CVOICE 2.0 Beta?

[Priscilla Oppenheimer]

One main feature of CVOICE 2.0 is that they removed the first two chapters 
on analog and digital voice technologies to make more time for hands-on 
labs. So you actually have less to study for the CVOICE 2.0 test.

Other than that, CVOICE 2.0 is mostly an update. Cisco's story on QoS for 
Frame Relay is ever changing, so you should check the latest "Configuring 
Voice over Frame Relay" document here:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/multi_c/mcprt1/mcdvofr.htm

Also, if you have time before you take the test, order the book "Voice over 
IP Fundamentals" by Davidson. It's short enough to read in a day or two and 
it's more up-to-date than CVOICE 1.0.

Priscilla


At 01:59 PM 7/12/00, joe wrote:
>I'm going to take CVOICE 2.0 Beta next week.
>I'v already studies Cisco course material CVOICE 1.0 (1998)  twice.
>But since it is old material for new exams, I'm afraid of missing something.
>Can any body suggest extra material to supplement it?  Thanks.
>
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RE: access-list ?

[Daniel Cotts]

Kent Hundley has authored several books that each have an algorithm for
determining the correct mask(s). One of his books deals with Cisco Security,
the other with Access Lists. Check out Amazon.com for the exact titles.

> -Original Message-
> From: Ronnie Toolte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:26 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: access-list ?
> 
> 
> Does anyone know of a good resource that explains extended 
> access-list?
> I'm having problems understanding how to take a range of networks and
> reduce them in number by summarizing them. For example, if  I want to
> filter out all networks from 24.1.0.0 to 24.20.0.0, how would I
> determine what inverse mask to use?
> 
> access-list 101 deny ip 24.1.0.0 ?.?.?.? any
> 
> I know if I want to filter just 24.1.0.0, I would do
> access-list 101 deny ip 24.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 any
> 
> thanks in advance
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"backup load" command

[groupstudy]

Hello

I'm preparing for the BCRAN exam, and found some imbiguity in this command.
backup load enable-threshold disable-load

I understand that the disable-load is calculated based on the primary line
utilization, at least this is what on CCO at:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios100/rpcr/66003.h
tm
however in some study materials, it's assumed to be based on the total of
both primary and backup utilizations. Does anyone know what does Cisco use
in the BCRAN class materials?
Thanks in advance.



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Re: Concurrent Routing and Bridging

[John Neiberger]

The PCs at this location will be used almost 100% of the time for TN3270
emulation.  I know, expensive emulation.  The will also have customer
signature display software running on them.  I was trying to be creative and
find a way to allow PCs at that location without the need to purchase and
additional file server.  

If we use bridging, the LAN at the building across the street would appear
local and the PCs would be able to access network services easily.  Since
we're already buying an "expensive" tn3270 solution, I just was making an
attempt to save a few bucks.  We'll probably end up getting the server, but
I wanted to ponder this idea some more.

John

>  Why bridging? You should be able to route either IPX or IP, of course 
>  IP-only is one of the major selling points of Netware 5. I have
experience 
>  using Netware 4.x via IPX over slow (56 Kb) frame links...it was
certainly 
>  usable, but we supplied local servers for each site to reduce WAN
traffic, 
>  etc. To quote a famous saying on this list: What problem are you trying
to 
>  solve?...i.e. is there a reason that you do not want to drop a server at
the 
>  branch site? Hardware requirements for Netware (even 5) are not
exorbitant 
>  by today's standards...
>  
>  Anson
>  
>  
>  Original Message Follows
>  From: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  Reply-To: John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  Subject: Concurrent Routing and Bridging
>  Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 08:45:20 -0700 (PDT)
>  
>  We have a branch that has two IBM terminals and no PCs at the moment. 
The
>  terminals will need to be replaced by PCs at some point in the near
future.
>  Since we're using Netware 5.0, they will need access to a local file
server
>  to log in.  Instead of buying a new file server, I suggested that we
>  configure CRB between this tiny branch and its parent branch which it is
>  connected to via frame relay.  This would make the parent branch LAN and
its
>  servers appear to be local.
>  
>  My boss says that this would be too slow and probably wouldn't work. 
None
>  of us have really had any experience configuring that type of bridging in
>  this environment.  Do any of you have any comments regarding this?
>  
>  TIA,
>  
>  John Neiberger
>  
>  
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BGP on a CISCO 1750 router

[wongfu]

Does anybody know if a cisco 1750 supports BGP4? (I will not be using it in
a real enviroment, but rather in a lab).  If so, which feature set?  from
the documentations it doesn't appear so.

thanks for any info.


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RE: Book Evaluation

[Smith, Warren]

I used the McGraw Hill Book; and also the Cisco Press book!

I hope this helps!

-Original Message-
From: Elijah Savage [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:47 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: Book Evaluation


Can anyone tell me if they have used the new McGraw Hill book ISBN0072124830
to study for the CIT. And if the questions in the book are close to what is
on the exam because these questions seem a bit easy. I have taken the ACRC
and passed it and I also have 10 years of networking experience from old
coax networks to ATM. I am trying to stay as level headed as possible about
this but with these questions it is making me feel very confident, I almost
want to go take the exam now after reading only 3 chapters of the book. So
basically I am wondering if this book is accurate to what it takes to
prepare for the CIT. I do work in a NOC supporting about 35,000 users doing
troubleshooting on a daily basis.

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Re: EPILOG: Anyone ever have a router boot- showing this only...

[Oz]

The baud rate @ the console was set for 2400, & I'd thought I'd seen it all.
I'm still confused how changing the ROM's, FLASH, & finally the RAM did not
release this config...


just so you don;t go crazy on the 36xx boxes
The 3620 and 3640 have a jumper on the motherboard that will reset the
console baud rate to 9600. This can be used when the console baud rate is
set to a speed that the attached terminal does not support, and you cannot
use one of the standard methods to set the console speed.
Oz
http://www.mcseco-op.com/helpfull_links.htm

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Re: 2 questions

[RAUL RENTERIA]

1)172.8.0.0,172.9.0.0172.14.0.0 network ranges for /12.
  255.240.0.0 subnetmask for /12
broadcast address ...ex 172.8.0.255
  you have an option of 4,094 networks and 262,142 ip addresses
  classfull ip ranges are 1 to 254 for devices.
2)config-reg 0x2102 boots to flash uses NVRAM normal operation,
I don't know the other one...

Godd luck, I hopwe it helps...you might want to take a look at the other 
e-mail responses about"subnetting"...bye

Raul Renteria.ccna.network analyst.NYC





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>Reply-To: "Shane Stockman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: 2 questions
>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 02:10:09 PDT
>
>(1) If I have an address of 172.37.2.56/12 how would I work out the IP
>range , broadcast address ,subnet mask ,subnet address.?
>(2) What are the different config reg settings and what would they do ?
>e.g 0x2102 or 0X0101
>
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Re: CCNA WAN-SW exam

[dsilva]

/
Question:
There is a "CCNA WAN-SW EXAM?"

Dick Silva





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> 
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RE: Trace command

[Dave Hennen]

when in doubt, type it out

the tests are supposed to be written with all possible abbreviations for
commands, but in my opinion typing out the full command is the safest way to
proceed.

daveh

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 8:35 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Trace command


The ACRC Student Guide show the syntax for this command is - trace.  The
router shows it as being - traceroute.  Which one would be correct on
the ACRC exam?

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RE: Cisco routers and DHCP server

[Frank Wells]

DHCP relay agents are only needed to pass DCHP request and acknowledgements 
to the PC's on the subnet which are incapable of handling their own DHCP 
configuration. You just need to configure ip-helper-address on the router 
nearest the DHCP server.


>From: Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Richard 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: Cisco routers and DHCP server
>Date: Wed, 12 Jul 2000 06:58:14 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Rich,
>
>You want to put it on the other side, where those
>clients are. If you have a relay agent in the clients
>sunet, you do not need any config on the router.
>In other words, if you want to configure the router,
>no relay agent is needed.
>
>Kent
>
>
>--- William E Gragido <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>wrote:
> > First off, is this an NT DHCP server?  If so you
> > will need to configure the
> > Relay Agents on the segment(s) where the DHCP server
> > is not present.  This
> > will allow for DHCP queries and responses to
> > traverse your RFC1542 compliant
> > router.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Richard
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 5:21 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Cisco routers and DHCP server
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a DHCP server on one network and want
> > clients from the
> > > other network
> > > to be able to attain its ip address from this dhcp
> > server. What are the
> > > necessary commands needed to make this possible?
> > I've tried "ip
> > > helper-address" alone on the ethernet interface on
> > the other side of the
> > > dhcp server network, but it didn't work. What
> > other commands do I need?
> > >
> > > Any commments are greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Richard
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Cisco 827

[Jim Garron]

Does anyone know the maximum number of VC that can be configured on a 827
router?

Jim Garron

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RE: access-list ?

[Irwin Lazar]

There are several books on the topics and I maintain a list of on-line
resources at http://www.itprc.com/security.htm

Irwin

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 1:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: access-list ?


Does anyone know of a good resource that explains extended access-list?
I'm having problems understanding how to take a range of networks and
reduce them in number by summarizing them. For example, if  I want to
filter out all networks from 24.1.0.0 to 24.20.0.0, how would I
determine what inverse mask to use?

access-list 101 deny ip 24.1.0.0 ?.?.?.? any

I know if I want to filter just 24.1.0.0, I would do
access-list 101 deny ip 24.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 any

thanks in advance

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Trace command

[Timothy W. Roberts]

The ACRC Student Guide show the syntax for this command is - trace.  The
router shows it as being - traceroute.  Which one would be correct on
the ACRC exam?

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Book Evaluation

[Elijah Savage]

Can anyone tell me if they have used the new McGraw Hill book ISBN0072124830
to study for the CIT. And if the questions in the book are close to what is
on the exam because these questions seem a bit easy. I have taken the ACRC
and passed it and I also have 10 years of networking experience from old
coax networks to ATM. I am trying to stay as level headed as possible about
this but with these questions it is making me feel very confident, I almost
want to go take the exam now after reading only 3 chapters of the book. So
basically I am wondering if this book is accurate to what it takes to
prepare for the CIT. I do work in a NOC supporting about 35,000 users doing
troubleshooting on a daily basis.

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access-list ?

[Ronnie Toolte]

Does anyone know of a good resource that explains extended access-list?
I'm having problems understanding how to take a range of networks and
reduce them in number by summarizing them. For example, if  I want to
filter out all networks from 24.1.0.0 to 24.20.0.0, how would I
determine what inverse mask to use?

access-list 101 deny ip 24.1.0.0 ?.?.?.? any

I know if I want to filter just 24.1.0.0, I would do
access-list 101 deny ip 24.1.0.0 0.0.255.255 any

thanks in advance

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Correct show syntax for access lists

[Timothy W. Roberts]

This is relating to taking exams:

The ACRC Student Guide states that the command to view ALL access-lists
on a router is - show access-list.  But on the router is shows it as
being - show access-lists (with an s).  Which one will the test want?
Will either work?

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RE: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?

[Dave Hennen]

try this link

http://www.samw.com/design/designyournetwork.asp?

I haven't used their service but I think this is what you're looking for

daveh

-Original Message-
From: Paul Borghese [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 5:14 PM
To: Jeff Walzer; 'Cisco'
Subject: Re: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?


Jeff,

How about posting it on GroupStudy.com and the mailing list can take a look?
It would be good exercise for CCDP/CCDA candidates.

Paul
- Original Message -
From: Jeff Walzer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 'Cisco' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:22 PM
Subject: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?


> Someone posted the web site for a company that would allow you to submit a
> copy of your proposed network topology and they would review it and make
> suggestions at no charge. Does anyone remember the web address?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
>
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Fw:

[Bob & Karen Timmons]

- Original Message -
From: "Bunchuck, Teyet" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:22 AM
Subject: FW:


>
>
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Vicente, Vicki
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:06 AM
> >To: Bunchuck, Teyet
> >Subject: FW:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>Subject: MOM'S LAST LAUGH.
> >>
> >>
> >>>*  > > >>> >
> >>>Consumed by my loss, I didn't notice the hardness of the pew where I
sat.
> >>I
> >>>was at the funeral of my dearest friend - my mother.
> >>>She finally had lost her long battle with cancer.  The hurt was so
Always
> >>>supportive, Mother clapped loudest at my school plays, held a box of
> >>tissues
> >>>while listening to my first heartbreak, comforted me at my father's
death,
> >>>encouraged me in college, and prayed for me my entire life.
> >>>
> >>>When Mother's illness was diagnosed, my sister had a new baby and my
> >>brother
> >>>had recently married his childhood sweetheart, so it fell on me, the
> >>>27-year-old middle child without entanglements, to take care of her.  I
> >>>counted it an honor.
> >>>
> >>>"What now, Lord?" I asked sitting in church.  My life stretched out
before
> >>>me as an empty abyss.  My brother sat stoically with his face toward
the
> >>>cross while clutching his wife's hand.  My sister sat slumped against
her
> >>>husband's shoulder, his arms around her as she cradled their child.
> >>>
> >>>All so deeply grieving, no one noticed I sat alone.  My place had been
> >with
> >>>our mother, preparing her meals, helping her walk, taking her to the
> >>doctor,
> >>>seeing to her medication, reading the Bible together.  Now she was with
> >the
> >>>Lord.  My work was finished, and I was alone.
> >>>
> >>>I heard a door open and slam shut at the back of the church.
> >>>Quick footsteps hurried along the carpeted floor.  An exasperated young
> >man
> >>>looked around briefly and then sat next to me.  He folded his hands and
> >>>placed them on his lap.  His eyes were brimming with tears.  He began
to
> >>>sniffle.
> >>>
> >>>"I'm late," he explained, though no explanation was necessary.
> >>>After several eulogies, he leaned over and commented, "Why do they keep
> >>>calling Mary by the name of 'Margaret'?
> >>>
> >>>"0h" "Because that was her name, Margaret.  Never Mary.  No one called
her
> >>>'Mary,'" I whispered.  I wondered why this person couldn't have sat on
the
> >>>other side of the church.  He interrupted my grieving with his tears
and
> >>>fidgeting.  Who was this stranger anyway?
> >>>
> >>>"No, that isn't correct," he insisted, as several people glanced over
at
> >us
> >>>whispering, "Her name is Mary, Mary Peters."
> >>>"That isn't who this is, I replied.."
> >>>Isn't this the Lutheran church?"
> >>>
> >>>"No, the Lutheran church is across the street."
> >>>
> >>>"Oh."
> >>>
> >>>"I believe you're at the wrong funeral, Sir."
> >>>
> >>>The solemnizes of the occasion mixed with the realization of the man's
> >>>mistake bubbled up inside me and came out as laughter.  I cupped my
hands
> >>>over my face, hoping it would be interpreted as sobs.  The creaking pew
> >>gave
> >>>me away.  Sharp looks from other mourners only the situation seem more
> >>>hilarious.  I peeked at the bewildered, misguided man seated beside me.
> >He
> >>>was laughing, too, as he glanced around, deciding it was too late for
an
> >>>uneventful exit.  I imagined Mother laughing.
> >>>At the final "Amen," we darted out a door and into the parking lot.
> >>>"I do believe we'll be the talk of the town," he smiled.  He said his
name
> >>>was Rick and since he had missed his aunt's funeral, asked me out for a
> >cup
> >>>of coffee.
> >>>
> >>>That afternoon began a lifelong journey for me with this man who
attended
> >>>the wrong funeral, but was in the right place.
> >>>A year after our meeting, we were married at a country church where he
was
> >>>the assistant pastor.  This time we both arrived at the same church,
right
> >>>on time.
> >>>
> >>>In my time of sorrow, God gave me laughter.  In place of loneliness,
God
> >>>gave me love.  This past June we celebrated our twenty-second wedding
> >>>anniversary.
> >>>
> >>>Whenever anyone asks us how we met, Rick tells them, "Her mother and my
> >>Aunt
> >>>Mary introduced us, and it's truly a match made in heaven."
> >>>
> >>> Jesus said, "if you are ashamed of me," I will
be
> >>>ashamed of you before my Father."
> >>>
> >>>If you're not ashamed Pass this on .  .  .  only if you mean it.
> >>>Yes, I do Love God.  He is my source of existence and Savior.
> >>>He keeps me functioning each and everyday.  Without Him, I would be
> >>nothing.
> >>>Without him, I am nothing, but with Him I can do all thin Gs through
> >Christ
> >>>that strengthens me.  Phil 4:13 If you Love God, and are not ashamed of
> >all
> >>>the marvelous things he has done for you.  S

RE: Eyy Yyy Yyy Yyy- more 2500 boot issues

[Taylor, Don]

Sounds 
like a good guess to me. Have you talked to Cisco?

  -Original Message-From: Circusnuts 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 4:26 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Eyy Yyy Yyy Yyy- more 
  2500 boot issues
  Do I really need to 
  learn all this...  Todd Lammel "didn't" tell me there'd be days like this 
  :-)
   
  3000 Software (IGS-RXBOOT Bootstrap), 
  Version 9.1(1), SOFTWARE [fc1]Copyright (c) 1986-1992 by cisco Systems, 
  Inc.Compiled Mon 19-Oct-92 13:53 by jthomas
   
  Parity  (control reg=0xA10) Error, address: 0xEFC at 
  0x101325C (PC)save_stack: discarding corrupt frame pointer 
  (0x8020)
   
  System Bootstrap, Version 4.6(1), 
  SOFTWARECopyright (c) 1986-1992 by cisco Systems
   
  I have swapped the 
  ROM's & FLASH.  I will be trying the RAM, once I rob another 
  router.  
   
  Any Ideas, my fingers 
  are not small enough to be doing this as much as I've had to- these past few 
  days...
   
  Thanks !!!
  Phil
   
  PS- I'm starting to 
  think bad RAM...

Re: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?

[Paul Borghese]

Jeff,

How about posting it on GroupStudy.com and the mailing list can take a look?
It would be good exercise for CCDP/CCDA candidates.

Paul
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Subject: Looking for web site that provided free consulting?


> Someone posted the web site for a company that would allow you to submit a
> copy of your proposed network topology and they would review it and make
> suggestions at no charge. Does anyone remember the web address?
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
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some networking utilities

[tayta]

stumbled accross this resource page, might be of interest to someone

http://www.heavysecurity.com/utilities/networking.shtml

particularly this!

Wannabe

Version Number: Unknown
Byte Size:3 MB (3,001,064 bytes)
License: Freeware
Platform: Windows 95/98/2000
Description:An excellent IOS simulator. This is a great way to learn your
way around a Cisco router.


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Concurrent Routing and Bridging

[John Neiberger]

We have a branch that has two IBM terminals and no PCs at the moment.  The
terminals will need to be replaced by PCs at some point in the near future. 
Since we're using Netware 5.0, they will need access to a local file server
to log in.  Instead of buying a new file server, I suggested that we
configure CRB between this tiny branch and its parent branch which it is
connected to via frame relay.  This would make the parent branch LAN and its
servers appear to be local.

My boss says that this would be too slow and probably wouldn't work.  None
of us have really had any experience configuring that type of bridging in
this environment.  Do any of you have any comments regarding this?

TIA,

John Neiberger





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RE: cisco logo

[Williams, Mike]

Another thing to check.  Although you agree to their conditions when you
take exams, once you login to the Cert Tracking web page, there's a section
saying :

Cisco Career Certifications Agreement:

The certification agreement is required to become certified. Once you have
accepted the agreement, it will count towards all applicable certifications.
To review and accept the certification agreement now, click 

I had to agree to their agreement yet again, before I even got the Get Logos
button

But once, I told them to e-mail me the logos, it only took a matter of
minutes to get them.

Mike W.

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Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 9:46 AM
To: 'Leonard Ong'; Michael L. Williams
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: cisco logo


Yes, patience my friend.

At Cisco they have a big heavy mainframe standing on top of one of their
cables, so it is so flat that it can take up to a week before the e-mail
data gets thru it.

No seriously, it took them a month after I passed my CCNA 2.0 before I had
the "Get Logo" button, and then it took about a week before I received the
logo in an e-mail.

Hth,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Leonard Ong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 11:42 PM
To: Michael L. Williams
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cisco logo


At 11:14 12/07/2000, you wrote:
>Here is the URL you need to go to.  You can sign up with you Sylvan 
>Prometric (SP) number or your Cisco ID.
>
>https://www.galton.com/~cisco_s
/login.html

Hi I have ordered my CCNP and CCDP, CCNA and CCDA twice, but after two days
still not delivered to my email. Any comments ?


Regards,
Leonard Ong, CCNP, CCDP, CSE, LCP
Leonard Advanced Research,Inc

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Re: CCNA WAN-SW exam

[Joe Bluggs]

wrote the beta exam, am cert'd

for Cisco (Stratacom) IGX/BPX/MGX my best study materials were to go to cisco.com and 
search then retrieve 40+ webpages, print them, compile info and read!!!

exam not too hard know your set-type config commands, box specifics, how to physically 
install them, features, etc.

Know mgmt software, features, how to install, etc.

PS: commands and in situ application of commands were the body of my exam

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Re: E1 question

[joel.studtmann]

You pointed it out at the end, but Channel 16 is the D channel in E1
circuits.

In fact, to configure it, the command should be interface serial 1/0:15
(16th channel; Cisco and computers start counting at 0)

With regular T1, it is the 24th channel used for signaling (The D channel)

Joel Studtmann

MCSE, MCP+I
A+, Network+
CCNA


- Original Message -
From: Andy Harding <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Peter Van Gup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 22:18
Subject: Re: E1 question


> bit shaky on this, but here goes...
>
> there is a standard - G.703/704 - it's not just a cisco thing
>
> T/S 0 is used for signalling, the remaining 31 channels (1-31) are used
for
> data - hence the 1,984kb/s bandwidth rather than the 2,048 you might
expect.
> Under a cisco E1 you would configure a virtual serial, S1/0:0 over all
> timeslots like this:
>
> controller E1 1/0
>  channel-group 0 timeslots 1-31
>
> 
>
> interface Serial1/0:0
>  
>
> you can configure multiple virtual serials if you wish, for when you are
> aggregating multiple sub-E1s on the hub of a hub-and-spoke for example.
>
> Believe that T/S 16 was once used for signalling also, but can't quite
> remember.
>
> HTH
>
> Andy
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Peter Van Gup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2000 12:25 AM
> Subject: E1 question
>
>
> > Can someone tell me what is the maximum of timeslots on an E1 can be
used
> to
> > transmit data. Does this depent on a Cisco interface or is there a
> standard
> > for. I also would like to no what are the difference between an
> channelized
> > and a unchannelized (framed /unframed) E1.
> > What kind of info is transmitted over TS 0 ?
> >
> > Any help or good resources about an E1 are apreciated.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Michael.
> >
> >
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RE: DIGI Port Server

[Bob Vance]

The jack pinouts are:
 1 RI
 2 DSR
 3 RTS
 4  GND
 5 TxD
 6 RxD
 7 SG
 8 CTS
 9 DTR
10 DCD

>From this, you can figure out how to make the cable to connect the
PortServer port
to a router console.  These are both DTE's, so you'll want the TxD of the
PortServer
to go to the RxD of the console.

To telnet to the console connected to port N, use

telnet portsrv 200N# (2000 + port #)

As for the config, this is what I have, but I am connecting to Unix-host
consoles.  It should work for a router console, as well, though:

#> set po ra=1-1
tty termtype   dev  sess uid edelay auto  bin group dport dest
  1 vt220  mio40 1   off   on0 0  255.255.255.255

#> set line ra=1-1
tty  baud csize parity stopb  break   error inpck istrip onlcr otab
  1  96008  N 1  ignorenull  offoff   off   off

   (I'm not sure how the "break" parm will affect your being able to
send a break to the router console -- you may have to experiment.
   )

#> set flow ra=1-1
tty  ixon aixon ixoff ixany itoss altpin  rts  dtr  cts  dcd  dsr   ri
  1on   off   off   off   offoff  off  off  off  off  off  off

#> set login ra=1-8
tty cmdprompt  logprompt  passprompt  write  login  passwd  verbose  message
  1 digi>  login: passwd:  off on  on  off none


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
kumar
Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 5:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: DIGI Port Server


Dear All,

I would like to use Digi Port Server to connect Cisco
Router through reverse telnet. I need your help on the
following :-

1. The cable pinout(both end rj45) between Digi Port
server and Cisco Console Port.

2. Minimal configuration required on the Digi port
Server.

thanks for your time
Regards
Kumar


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Re: CCNA WAN-SW exam

[Joe Bluggs]

wrote the beta exam, am cert'd

for Cisco (Stratacom) IGX/BPX/MGX my best study materials were to go to cisco.com and 
search then retrieve 40+ webpages, print them, compile info and read!!!

exam not too hard know your set-type config commands, box specifics, how to physically 
install them, features, etc.

Know mgmt software, features, how to install, etc.

PS: commands and in situ application of commands were the body of my exam

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RE: Some ISDN PRI questions

[Ole Drews Jensen]

Thanks Jay,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Jay Hennigan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2000 12:17 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen
Cc: 'Subramanian Nallasivam'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Some ISDN PRI questions


On Tue, 11 Jul 2000, Ole Drews Jensen wrote:

> Hi Subbi,
> 
> You are dragging me out in orbit now, but I'll try to hang on.
> 
> To get back to the ISDN PRI...
> 
> The 8000 samples, are you sure that it's not 8 k-samples (8*1024) = 8192
> samples???

In the telco world, 1K = 1000.  In the data world 1K = 1024.   

ISDN and the DS-n standards came from the telco world.  :-)
 
> That would make sense since the 192 bits (24*8) multiplied with 8192
equals
> 1572864 which again equals 1536 kbps (1572864/1024). That brings us back
to
> 24 channels where the last one is only used for signaling - not data.

192 bits multiplied by 8000 = 1536000.  Add in 8000 for framing, and you
have 1544000, the clock rate for DS-1.

The proper way to think or this is really:

8000 samples per second of 8 bit resolution = 64000 bits per second,
which equals one channel, or one DS-0.  24 channels of 64000 bits 
equal 1536000 bits per second (or 192000 bytes).  Plus 8000 bits per
second for framing.  Viola! (a stringed instrument appears mysteriously
out of thin air) 1,544,000 bits per second = DS-1.

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