BGP question
Dear Group, Who can tell me the following concept: . A Optional transitive B. Mandatory transitive C. Well-known mandatory D. Optional nontransitive E. Well-known discretionary TIA Dean _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SNMP VPDN question
Hello! My users dials in to ISP and tunnel to my cisco box (4500 series). Users work in Virtual-Access interfaces. cisco#sh u Line User Host(s) Idle Location Vi1 user1 Virtual PPP (L2F ) 00:00:02 Vi2 user2 Virtual PPP (L2F ) 00:00:00 Vi3 user3 Virtual PPP (L2F ) 00:00:00 etc Question: How I can logout dial users over SNMP? snmpset -v 1 $cisconame PASSWORDRW .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.2.9.10.0 i $line - this command not work ( Virtual-Access not a line ! ) (example : snmpwalk cisco password .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.10.24.1.3.2.1.2.1 - list current work users) Thanks for any help! Igor. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a trunking/irb/bvi/hsrp design to chew on...
Hi all, I have come up with a design and would appreciate some feedback, tips, or pointers etc. 2 routers connected to 3 switches. 2x3660 w/4 x F/Ethernet 1x4006 w/1 GBIC 3524XL w/1 GBIC 3524XL Routers are connected to each switch, trunked. Switches are connected as such: [4006 GBIC] [GBIC 3524XL F/EtherChannel] == [F/Etherchannel 3524XL] The routers are also directly connected back to back via F/Ethernet. Therefore, each router has 4 trunks. One to each switch, and one to the other router. I have configured dot1q trunking, with Vlan 1 the native Vlan. Each Vlan on the router appears four times, on a subinterface on each f/ethernet interface. Each Vlan has its own bridge group. IRB is configured and a BVI created to route between the Vlans (no layer 3 on the fast ethernet trunks or subinterface). A sample config of a router... interface fastethernet 0/1 no ip address speed 100 duplex full interface fastethernet 0/0.1 encapsulation dot1q 1 native bridge-group 1 interface fastethernet 0/0.10 encapsulation dot1q 10 bridge-group 10 interface fastethernet 0/1.1 encapsulation dot1q 1 native bridge-group 1 interface fastethernet 0/1.10 encapsulation dot1q 10 bridge-group 10 interface BVI1 ip address 10.1.0.1 255.255.0.0 interface BVI10 ip address 10.10.0.1 255.255.0.0 bridge 1 protocol ieee bridge 1 route ip bridge 10 protocol ieee bridge 10 route ip ... and so on ... (about 15 vlans in total). (this was typed in from memory so please excuse any typos) One issue I have is that the switches complain regularly about mac-addresses appearing on multiple trunks (flapping). Perhaps this is just a warning, as only really one interface should be providing connectivity for any given Vlan thanks to spanning tree. Will dot1Q spanning tree have problems with the ieee spanning tree on the router. (or should I configure PVST?) Just to add spice, I've actually got HSRP running on each BVI so that both routers share the default gateway address for each Vlan. Thanks all, Scott Aitken _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IOS do you run in your lab?
My boss came back from his First run @ the CCIE lab was angry over two things. One of the reasons he felt he did poorly, was because he didn't know any of the default differences between 11.2(18), 11.3(9)T (there was no 12.0 on his scenario). The Second reason was the cool patch panel Cisco has you work with. He said it took him all day to get comfortable with it, so when he got home he ordered one for his lab ($3000). From the experiences I have with CCIE prep material, first hand advice from friends who have taken the CCIE lab, my work environment (where we cannot use 12.0 still have LANE working properly)... stick to the 11.2's (NAT auto LMI detection started here), 11.3's (PAT a lot of the technical software additions started here), 12.0 (is the WIN98_SE of 11.3 :-) Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 PM Subject: Which IOS do you run in your lab? I wanted to get an idea of which version of IOS most of you are running in your labs? You would want a version of course that is very stable, yet offers good features. I would think 11.2 at minimum, since so many major changes occured with that. Correct me if I am wrong, but CCIE lab can test features as recent as 12.0 and beyond...so I am wondering if alot of you run 12.0. Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Which IOS do you run in your lab?
I've heard one or two people mention the patch panel. As for the IOS versions, hey - it's in the blueprint, and should have been no surprise. Several people who have offered study tips have mentioned the necessity to read and be familiar with the IOS documentation, and different versions. Your boss should be reading groupstudy as well! :- Have your boss download the study tips document from my feeble website. www.chuck.to/CCIEAdvice.txt ( the file name is case sensitive ) Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Circusnuts Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 4:23 AM To: Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Which IOS do you run in your lab? My boss came back from his First run @ the CCIE lab was angry over two things. One of the reasons he felt he did poorly, was because he didn't know any of the default differences between 11.2(18), 11.3(9)T (there was no 12.0 on his scenario). The Second reason was the cool patch panel Cisco has you work with. He said it took him all day to get comfortable with it, so when he got home he ordered one for his lab ($3000). From the experiences I have with CCIE prep material, first hand advice from friends who have taken the CCIE lab, my work environment (where we cannot use 12.0 still have LANE working properly)... stick to the 11.2's (NAT auto LMI detection started here), 11.3's (PAT a lot of the technical software additions started here), 12.0 (is the WIN98_SE of 11.3 :-) Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 PM Subject: Which IOS do you run in your lab? I wanted to get an idea of which version of IOS most of you are running in your labs? You would want a version of course that is very stable, yet offers good features. I would think 11.2 at minimum, since so many major changes occured with that. Correct me if I am wrong, but CCIE lab can test features as recent as 12.0 and beyond...so I am wondering if alot of you run 12.0. Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco memory
Chuck, in your 2500, two slots are occupied. Saa Chuck Larrieu wrote: So, Sasa, what can you tell me from this output? :- Chuck Router#sh flash chips 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY) ChipBankCode Size Name 1 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 1 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 Executing current image from System flash Router# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Saa Milic Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 5:54 AM To: Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Cisco memory Brian wrote: Lets say you have a router with 8MB flash in it. 2 slots for flash (like a 2500 series). Does anyone know of a way to see if its got 4MB in each slot or just one 8MB chip in one slot without actually opening it up? I don't think this is possible, but would save me some time if it can be done. Hi Brian, check output from 'show flash chips' - look for column 'Bank'. Saa, CCNP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco memory
Hi If you look at the "bank" coloum you will note there is a "1" and "2" listed, i.e. the chips are living in banks 1 and 2, therefore 2 flash simms. If there were only one simm the output would look like this... switch#sh flash c 8192K bytes of processor board System flash (Read/Write) ChipBankCode Size Name 1 1 89A0 2048KBINTEL 28F016SA 2 1 89A0 2048KBINTEL 28F016SA 3 1 89A0 2048KBINTEL 28F016SA 4 1 89A0 2048KBINTEL 28F016SA HTH -- John Hardman, CCNP MCSE+I ""Chuck Larrieu"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 00cc01c04674$860b1dc0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:00cc01c04674$860b1dc0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... So, Sasa, what can you tell me from this output? :- Chuck Router#sh flash chips 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY) ChipBankCode Size Name 1 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 1 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 Executing current image from System flash Router# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sasa Milic Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 5:54 AM To: Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco memory Brian wrote: Lets say you have a router with 8MB flash in it. 2 slots for flash (like a 2500 series). Does anyone know of a way to see if its got 4MB in each slot or just one 8MB chip in one slot without actually opening it up? I don't think this is possible, but would save me some time if it can be done. Hi Brian, check output from 'show flash chips' - look for column 'Bank'. Sasa, CCNP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco memory
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote: So, Sasa, what can you tell me from this output? :- 2 chips (because 2 banks shown). each is 8MB. Its confusing because it actually breaks it down to each chip on a simm or something like that..but I realize now the only important thing to look for is the bank numbers to see how many simm slots are populated. Chuck Router#sh flash chips 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY) ChipBankCode Size Name 1 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 1 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 Executing current image from System flash Router# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Saa Milic Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 5:54 AM To: Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco memory Brian wrote: Lets say you have a router with 8MB flash in it. 2 slots for flash (like a 2500 series). Does anyone know of a way to see if its got 4MB in each slot or just one 8MB chip in one slot without actually opening it up? I don't think this is possible, but would save me some time if it can be done. Hi Brian, check output from 'show flash chips' - look for column 'Bank'. Saa, CCNP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IOS do you run in your lab?
No VOIP on his lab? It didn't come out until 12.0 Rodgers Moore ""Circusnuts"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 015701c04659$ff0ab7a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:015701c04659$ff0ab7a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... My boss came back from his First run @ the CCIE lab was angry over two things. One of the reasons he felt he did poorly, was because he didn't know any of the default differences between 11.2(18), 11.3(9)T (there was no 12.0 on his scenario). The Second reason was the cool patch panel Cisco has you work with. He said it took him all day to get comfortable with it, so when he got home he ordered one for his lab ($3000). From the experiences I have with CCIE prep material, first hand advice from friends who have taken the CCIE lab, my work environment (where we cannot use 12.0 still have LANE working properly)... stick to the 11.2's (NAT auto LMI detection started here), 11.3's (PAT a lot of the technical software additions started here), 12.0 (is the WIN98_SE of 11.3 :-) Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 PM Subject: Which IOS do you run in your lab? I wanted to get an idea of which version of IOS most of you are running in your labs? You would want a version of course that is very stable, yet offers good features. I would think 11.2 at minimum, since so many major changes occured with that. Correct me if I am wrong, but CCIE lab can test features as recent as 12.0 and beyond...so I am wondering if alot of you run 12.0. Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Speed performance!!
If you are using a Cisco router what type of switching is it using of the interfaces in question, process-switch, fast-switch, etc. ? Take a look at the interface and processor utilization as well, and the number of broadcast and errors on those segments. I have found those are more likely causes of poor performance than packets being routed. sho int sho proc cpu Carlton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of jeongwoo park Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:57 PM To: Groupstudy Subject: Speed performance!! Hi all My file server is on 140.222.20.1/24 Clients are on these four subnets. 140.222.150.0/24 140.222.181.0/24 140.222.237.0/24 140.222.200.0/24 There is such a slow data transfer rate going from any of these 4 subnets to the subnet where the server is. All clients get DHCP ip addresses As a suggestion, someone told me to supernet. As far as I know, in order to supernet, subnet ip addresses should be contiguous, and I think the idea of supernetting is to include multiple subnets into one supernetted subnet. So we can transfer data within one subnet instead of transferring through router for subnet-to-subnet transfer. However, these five subnet ip addresses are not contiguous. How can I supernet non-contiguous subnet ip addresses? By following Cisco book instruction on supernetting, I got this address: 140.222.0.0/16 Is this correct? If this was correctly supernetted, what should I do next? Should I go to each individual stations (about 600 stations) for new TCP/IP setup? I am sure there should be better way to handle this. I have only several months of network experience. I am still newbie. I will appreciate your help Thanks in adv. jw __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Speed performance!!
JW, be more specific about your network topology. Where are the users in reference to the server? What type of network hardware are you using (hubs, switches, etc.) and with is the type and speed of your WAN links if any?? If you network does not have the adequate horse power and bandwidth to handle the load needed to access the server, summarization will not help much. Granted it helps in optimizing routing but if 600 users are trying to access a server on a hub, you are still going to suffer. jeongwoo park wrote: Hi all My file server is on 140.222.20.1/24 Clients are on these four subnets. 140.222.150.0/24 140.222.181.0/24 140.222.237.0/24 140.222.200.0/24 There is such a slow data transfer rate going from any of these 4 subnets to the subnet where the server is. All clients get DHCP ip addresses As a suggestion, someone told me to supernet. As far as I know, in order to supernet, subnet ip addresses should be contiguous, and I think the idea of supernetting is to include multiple subnets into one supernetted subnet. So we can transfer data within one subnet instead of transferring through router for subnet-to-subnet transfer. However, these five subnet ip addresses are not contiguous. How can I supernet non-contiguous subnet ip addresses? By following Cisco book instruction on supernetting, I got this address: 140.222.0.0/16 Is this correct? If this was correctly supernetted, what should I do next? Should I go to each individual stations (about 600 stations) for new TCP/IP setup? I am sure there should be better way to handle this. I have only several months of network experience. I am still newbie. I will appreciate your help Thanks in adv. jw __ Do You Yahoo!? From homework help to love advice, Yahoo! Experts has your answer. http://experts.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Willie Bell CCIE# 6075, CCDP email [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Catalyst 5000 Console
How does one connect to the Cat 5000 console port? The Cat's console port is not like other Cisco routers console ports. Please let me know. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Patch panel and LAN distance
Well, I am learning lot through the books on network configuration and network topologies and technologies. They do cover very little about wiring in the real world. If a ethernet LAN segment has a physical distance limitation, then is it possible to extend this distance using patch panel. Are patch panels used only to change the LAN landscape without physically moving the equipement? What are the other uses/functions of having patch panels? Thank you in advance. -- Oscar Rau [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Study group format info wanted
Hi Dave - I'm starting up a study group in the Boston area, and although we haven't officially met yet, here's some ideas that we're looking at: First, our focus is on actual configuration on working routers, not just on theory. Therefore, every member is a router owner and brings it to each meeting. However, as a trainer I agree that the best way to learn something is to be put in a position where you have to teach someone else. So we'll be using a whiteboard and teaching another whatever we know - where one has a question, someone else will jump in and answer it. But again, the focus is centered around actual configuration, not just spending our Saturdays whiteboarding a bunch of topics for one another. Our group is a CCNP/CCIE group, so all attendees have their CCNA certifications already. We're starting off with Doyle's book and going through chapter-by-chapter, and from there we're not sure where we're going to go. Maybe Halabi and Thomas, or some other book for one of the other CCNP exams. We will be meeting every Saturday at 3 pm, and working until we all collapse from exhaustion. I'm not sure how much material we'll be able to get through; maybe a good benchmark will be to stick to a topic until everyone in the group is able to explain it to others in their own words. I'll keep you posted on how this format works out - like I said, we haven't started meeting yet. :-) If anyone else reading this message is interested in joining the group, shoot me an email. Thanks, Bradley J. Wilson CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, CNX-A, NNCSS, MCT, CTT - Original Message - From: Dave To: Cisco Cert (E-mail) Sent: Friday, November 03, 2000 6:35 PM Subject: Study group format info wanted Hi all, I am interested in starting a study group at my company, and am interested in how other existing study groups are formatted. For instance, I know that some groups read a chapter from a book, then meet to discuss that particular chapter and ask each other questions. An idea that I had was to come up with topics that were of interest to the group, have a person volunteer to take a topic and become an expert on that particular subject. In the beginning there could be a large list of topics, people would volunteer, and meetings would be scheduled to discuss a particular topic on a particular night. Topics could be added as necessary. The subject expert would lecture (informally speaking) and during the explanation of the subject questions could be asked by the group members. If there were questions that could not be answered, the lecturer would write them down and get back to the group at the next meeting. My rationale is that you must really learn a subject if you have to explain it clearly to others. The person doing the explaining will have to really understand what he is talking about, as well as be able to explain it to others. Sharing this load among the members of the group should help everyone and, assuming everyone that lectures is clear and thorough, will minimize the amount of time for the group as a whole to gain proficiency in topics. Are there any other groups doing this? Are there other formats that existing groups are using with success? I welcome feedback on the format, as well as any other suggestions to make efficient use of time. Thanks, Dave _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ATM VTP
Robert, from my experience with bridging VLAN traffic between two LANE modules, the entire VLAN database is not bridged over a PVC, only the individual VLAN that is bound to it. If you want all of the VLANs to be accessable by the remote switch, then you will need a PVC per VLAN. Willie Bell CCIE# 6075, CCDP email [EMAIL PROTECTED] "McCallum, Robert" wrote: Hi , Scenario is 2 cat 5509's connected together with an STM-1. Both are in the same VTP domain but will not speak to each other. Configs are pasted below. I DO NOT want to have management traffic (vlan 1) traversing across this link. This link is working just VTP is not traversing. First question is Does LANE trunking allow VTP to cross? CAT 1 set vtp domain BSKYB set vtp mode server set vtp v2 disable set vtp pruning enable #spantree #uplinkfast groups set spantree uplinkfast enable rate 15 all-protocols off #backbonefast set spantree backbonefast enable set spantree enable all #module 9 : 2-port SM OC-3 Dual-Phy ATM set module name9 set port level 9/1 normal set port name 9/1-2 set cdp enable 9/1 set cdp interval 9/1 60 set trunk 9/1 on lane 1-1005 set spantree portcost9/1 3014 set spantree portpri 9/1 32 set spantree portvlanpri 9/1 0 set spantree portvlancost 9/1 cost 3013 on the atm card sess 9 interface ATM0 atm preferred phy A atm pvc 1 2 50 aal5snap atm pvc 2 2 60 aal5snap atm bind pvc vlan 1 10 atm bind pvc vlan 2 2 CAT 2 set vtp domain BSKYB set vtp mode server set vtp v2 disable set vtp pruning enable #spantree #uplinkfast groups set spantree uplinkfast enable rate 15 all-protocols off #backbonefast set spantree backbonefast enable set spantree enable all #module 9 : 2-port SM OC-3 Dual-Phy ATM set module name9 set port level 9/1 normal set port name 9/1-2 set cdp enable 9/1 set cdp interval 9/1 60 set trunk 9/1 on lane 1-1005 set spantree portcost9/1 3014 set spantree portpri 9/1 32 set spantree portvlanpri 9/1 0 set spantree portvlancost 9/1 cost 3013 interface ATM0 atm preferred phy A atm sonet stm-1 atm uni-version 3.1 atm pvc 1 2 50 aal5snap atm pvc 2 2 60 aal5snap atm pvc 3 0 5 qsaal atm pvc 4 0 16 ilmi atm bind pvc vlan 1 10 atm bind pvc vlan 2 2 Any help much appreciated. P.S. cdp IS working over this ATM link. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Catalyst 5000 Console
Please try a straight-through cable. Winston. -Original Message- From: Austin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Catalyst 5000 Console How does one connect to the Cat 5000 console port? The Cat's console port is not like other Cisco routers console ports. Please let me know. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written passed - Must be a Chuck thing!
Hey, maybe if I have all my students change their names to Chuck they will
start doing better on their exams. At the very least it will make memorizing
names each semester a lot easier! :)
Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy
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I'm going to take all of my CCNP tests in the near future. I wonder, if I change my
name to "Chuck", maybe I'll pass them all tests on the first try...
Hmmm... I hope it doesn't only apply to the ccie written..
Chad "Chuck" Fetzer
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Subject: Re: CCIE written passed - Must be a Chuck thing!
Chalk up another "Chuck"!
* Passed CCIE R/S Written today with an 81%.
* Trying for CCIE Security beta Written next friday.
(And, yes, I did get 100% on the security part of the R/S exam)
Matthew Charles ("Chuck") Sypherd
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Re: CCIE LAB Scenarios
try ccbootcamp.com a bit expensive but seems to be worth it...I intend to buy the labs and some rack time before leaving for San Jose. I also booked 2 days with the practice lab in Santa Cruz--a brief ride to the San Jose lab. Best of luck, Frank "Shaw, Winston Mr." wrote: Hello, Who knows where CCIE practice Lab Scenarios can be purchased Winston. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Security Written Beta Report
Well, that was a lot of fun. The Sylvan test center had major system problems. Mine was the only one of five test takers whose computer was operational. The noise from the troubleshooting was distracting, as well as annoying. But that's ok. How many real life situations have I been in where the conditions required concentration and there was no help from around me? :- That said, I thought the test was ok. There were a couple of outstanding questions. Required some intelligence and some thought. There were a number of questions which required thorough understanding of protocol behavior. I'm looking through the blueprint as I write, so as not to violate the NAD. Let's see.. OK. There were a fair number of questions that were not really security related. I suppose they fall under the blueprint category "general networking" So in this respect, preparation would be similar as for the RS exam. The rest was, as others have said, faithful to the blueprint. The blueprint calls for knowledge of Unix and NT operating systems. I saw related questions. The blueprint details security protocols such as Kerberos, RADIUS, TACACS+ Believe the blueprint. When the blueprint states there will be questions regarding application protocols, and names them, they ain't lying! All in all, a good test. One which I believe can be passed with more book knowledge than practical experience. Same as the RS exam, in fact. As we all know, at the CCIE level, it is the Lab which separates the contenders from the pretenders. I wondered a bit what might be on any security lab exam, and I keep coming back to having to do things on servers and workstations, as well as routers. And that makes sense to me. Good security is, after all, implemented end to end. I for one am happy to see this certification coming into being. I do believe I will earnestly pursue this one after attaining my RS Chuck -- Know the difference between most 50 year old men and Bill Clinton? Well, for one thing, most of them actually did inhale. And as much as they may have wanted to, the fact is most of them definitely did not have sexual relations with that woman! ;- _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSCN book
Do you guys know where I can get this for lower than the retail price? If I go through my work I get a discount but it takes too damn long... I'm taking a trip next week and want it sooner. Any suggestions? Cheers, Jeff _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE written passed - Must be a Chuck thing!
As long as they don't mind passing each and every one of their lower level
cert exams by 20 points or less ;-
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Thomas Lisa
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Hey, maybe if I have all my students change their names to Chuck they will
start doing better on their exams. At the very least it will make
memorizing
names each semester a lot easier! :)
Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy
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I'm going to take all of my CCNP tests in the near future. I wonder, if I
change my name to "Chuck", maybe I'll pass them all tests on the first
try...
Hmmm... I hope it doesn't only apply to the ccie written..
Chad "Chuck" Fetzer
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Chalk up another "Chuck"!
* Passed CCIE R/S Written today with an 81%.
* Trying for CCIE Security beta Written next friday.
(And, yes, I did get 100% on the security part of the R/S exam)
Matthew Charles ("Chuck") Sypherd
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Re: CCIE LAB Scenarios
On 4 Nov 2000 15:16:30 -0500, Shaw, Winston Mr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Who knows where CCIE practice Lab Scenarios can be purchased http://www.fatkid.com/ Many different practice scenarios, and they also rent rack time. The scenarios are free, and quite varied. -- Jay Hennigan - Network Administration - [EMAIL PROTECTED] NetLojix Communications, Inc. NASDAQ: NETX - http://www.netlojix.com/ WestNet: Connecting you to the planet. 805 884-6323 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
urgent help needed: rommon 1
The Cisco 3620 router boot up as the above prompt "rommon 1 " Is it because the IOS image is gone? or is it because I typed something at the boot up process and make it to be like this? In this prompt, How can I check what IOS image my router is having now? and how can I download IOS image, in case that the IOS image is corrupted, to router? Previously I used "copy tftp flash" in the normal prompt. What command to use in this rommon prompt? Thanks in advanced Hubert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sybex e-trainer
Has anyone used this? Is it worth the money? I found it at bookpool for $50, and I really need something besides reading the book, short of spending craploads of money on routers :) Thanks
Re: a trunking/irb/bvi/hsrp design to chew on...
Scott, pvst+ is actually implemented in the newer versions of ios when using dot1q :-) Mark. At 12:44 AM 11/5/00 +, Scott Aitken wrote: Hi all, I have come up with a design and would appreciate some feedback, tips, or pointers etc. 2 routers connected to 3 switches. 2x3660 w/4 x F/Ethernet 1x4006 w/1 GBIC 3524XL w/1 GBIC 3524XL Routers are connected to each switch, trunked. Switches are connected as such: [4006 GBIC] [GBIC 3524XL F/EtherChannel] == [F/Etherchannel 3524XL] The routers are also directly connected back to back via F/Ethernet. Therefore, each router has 4 trunks. One to each switch, and one to the other router. I have configured dot1q trunking, with Vlan 1 the native Vlan. Each Vlan on the router appears four times, on a subinterface on each f/ethernet interface. Each Vlan has its own bridge group. IRB is configured and a BVI created to route between the Vlans (no layer 3 on the fast ethernet trunks or subinterface). A sample config of a router... interface fastethernet 0/1 no ip address speed 100 duplex full interface fastethernet 0/0.1 encapsulation dot1q 1 native bridge-group 1 interface fastethernet 0/0.10 encapsulation dot1q 10 bridge-group 10 interface fastethernet 0/1.1 encapsulation dot1q 1 native bridge-group 1 interface fastethernet 0/1.10 encapsulation dot1q 10 bridge-group 10 interface BVI1 ip address 10.1.0.1 255.255.0.0 interface BVI10 ip address 10.10.0.1 255.255.0.0 bridge 1 protocol ieee bridge 1 route ip bridge 10 protocol ieee bridge 10 route ip ... and so on ... (about 15 vlans in total). (this was typed in from memory so please excuse any typos) One issue I have is that the switches complain regularly about mac-addresses appearing on multiple trunks (flapping). Perhaps this is just a warning, as only really one interface should be providing connectivity for any given Vlan thanks to spanning tree. Will dot1Q spanning tree have problems with the ieee spanning tree on the router. (or should I configure PVST?) Just to add spice, I've actually got HSRP running on each BVI so that both routers share the default gateway address for each Vlan. Thanks all, Scott Aitken _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: urgent help needed: rommon 1
On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Hubert Pun wrote: The Cisco 3620 router boot up as the above prompt "rommon 1 " Is it because the IOS image is gone? or is it because I typed something it very well could mean that, yes. at the boot up process and make it to be like this? It could mean you sent a "break sequence" or it could also mean the configuration register is set to boot to rom In this prompt, How can I check what IOS image my router is having now? and how can I download IOS image, in case that the IOS image is corrupted, to router? Previously I used "copy tftp flash" in the normal prompt. What command to use in this rommon prompt? Thanks in advanced Hubert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ubr924
I have a cable router that I am trying to get working in my house, but with no success. The problem is the service provider is not giving me an IP address and the IOS doesn't let me assign one. I believe that the service provider wants to assign it based on the hostname, because that how my PC gets it. Is there a way to send the router's hostname in the DHCP request? Or does anyone know how I can get an IP address on the cable interface. Any help would appreciated? Thanks? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
difference between 3000 and 2500 system image files
Why would on a 2500 router show ver display IOS (tm) 3000 Software (IGS-INR-L), Version 11.0(13) when the image file is System image file is "flash:ios2500-ip-ipx-ibm-110-13 We bought many of these routers for labs from a large corporation. I doubt they would put an image of a older router on these 2500's and then roll them out to production. Sh ver on a router running 11.2 displays IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-I-L), Version 11.2(2), with the image file System image file is "flash:c2500-i-l.112-2", booted via flash Thanks Craig _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
transfer rate
How do we go about calculating how long it takes to calculate something and the speed at which it is transferring. For instance, if we have a T1 circuit (full 1.544MB) or a 128KB link, how long will it take to transfer a 230MB file and how fast does it transfer per second, minute, etc. I can't seem to find anything that deals with calculating this sort of thing on Cisco's site. Thanks. _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: urgent help needed: rommon 1
K !!! I had that happen last week, when I upgraded an out of the box 3640. There was a bug in the IOS that allowed the router to see it's Fast Ethernet modules as Async. ones. Unlike the 2500 series boot mode, you have very little command structure. I believe you do have a restart or reboot (if you accidentally interrupted the boot sequence- falling into RMON), but my guess is that you are destined for Xmodem download (if you Ethernets are invisible). Better have a good book, it can be a slow process... Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Hubert Pun" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "Cisco Study Group" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:28 PM Subject: Re: urgent help needed: rommon 1 On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Hubert Pun wrote: The Cisco 3620 router boot up as the above prompt "rommon 1 " Is it because the IOS image is gone? or is it because I typed something it very well could mean that, yes. at the boot up process and make it to be like this? It could mean you sent a "break sequence" or it could also mean the configuration register is set to boot to rom In this prompt, How can I check what IOS image my router is having now? and how can I download IOS image, in case that the IOS image is corrupted, to router? Previously I used "copy tftp flash" in the normal prompt. What command to use in this rommon prompt? Thanks in advanced Hubert _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Which IOS do you run in your lab?
I believe this story is a year or so old. I just thought it kinda funny when I heard it. You are right, Voice is 12.0 exclusive... but LANE is finally gone from the lab "as of Monday !!!" Phil - Original Message - From: "Rodgers Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 2:15 PM Subject: Re: Which IOS do you run in your lab? No VOIP on his lab? It didn't come out until 12.0 Rodgers Moore ""Circusnuts"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 015701c04659$ff0ab7a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:015701c04659$ff0ab7a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... My boss came back from his First run @ the CCIE lab was angry over two things. One of the reasons he felt he did poorly, was because he didn't know any of the default differences between 11.2(18), 11.3(9)T (there was no 12.0 on his scenario). The Second reason was the cool patch panel Cisco has you work with. He said it took him all day to get comfortable with it, so when he got home he ordered one for his lab ($3000). From the experiences I have with CCIE prep material, first hand advice from friends who have taken the CCIE lab, my work environment (where we cannot use 12.0 still have LANE working properly)... stick to the 11.2's (NAT auto LMI detection started here), 11.3's (PAT a lot of the technical software additions started here), 12.0 (is the WIN98_SE of 11.3 :-) Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2000 10:57 PM Subject: Which IOS do you run in your lab? I wanted to get an idea of which version of IOS most of you are running in your labs? You would want a version of course that is very stable, yet offers good features. I would think 11.2 at minimum, since so many major changes occured with that. Correct me if I am wrong, but CCIE lab can test features as recent as 12.0 and beyond...so I am wondering if alot of you run 12.0. Brian --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
xmodem software
Hi, In case I need to use xmodem to download IOS image to the router. what kind of xmodem software i need at my computer? And can I download this kind of image from anywhere? thanks in advanced _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco memory
Alright- new twist to this question... when installing two 4 Meg sticks, normally you want to spoof the router into thinking it's one 8 Meg stick. If you see two sticks- you either have 2 Megs, 8 Megs, or 16 Megs ( we know we can confirmed the total size, within the IOS). The only thing I can tell you about having two 4 Meg sticks in a 2500, is when you erase them (or install new) they default to 2 partitions of 4 Megs (needing the no partition command to make them one). If we cannot get the IOS to confirm (which just might make sense), if you don't want to pull the case, then erase the FLASH ( watch for it's default)... .02 Phil - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Sasa Milic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: RE: Cisco memory So, Sasa, what can you tell me from this output? :- Chuck Router#sh flash chips 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY) ChipBankCode Size Name 1 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 1 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 Executing current image from System flash Router# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sasa Milic Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 5:54 AM To: Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco memory Brian wrote: Lets say you have a router with 8MB flash in it. 2 slots for flash (like a 2500 series). Does anyone know of a way to see if its got 4MB in each slot or just one 8MB chip in one slot without actually opening it up? I don't think this is possible, but would save me some time if it can be done. Hi Brian, check output from 'show flash chips' - look for column 'Bank'. Sasa, CCNP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xmodem software
Using Hyper Terminal- go to Transfer (on the top tool bar), then to Send File. From there you can browse or type the path to the IOS image file. Remember to change your terminal speed on the Console port of the router PC. I think 115200 kbps about the best you can do still the actual speed will be lower... Good Luck !!! Phil - Original Message - From: "Hubert Pun" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Cisco Study Group" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 12:25 AM Subject: xmodem software Hi, In case I need to use xmodem to download IOS image to the router. what kind of xmodem software i need at my computer? And can I download this kind of image from anywhere? thanks in advanced _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need some help
You need a default route on your routers pointed to the DSL router. The router is getting traffic that it doesn't know what to do with and so it gets dropped. You can ping the internal address because there are routes for that subnet. Regards, Aaron K. Dixon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Amjad Afana Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Need some help Hello,, I have a problem browsing the Internet from computers behind routers. Please take a look at the following http://www.afana.net/diag1.jpg The DSL router is configured to obtain an IP address from my ISP (on the external interface) and the internal interface is static 192.168.1.1. From Server2, I can ping up to the internal interface 192.168.1.1, but I can't go online. Server1 and WKS1 are okay. Server1 is local DNS server (Win2k) and has a forwarder to my ISP's DNS servers. I tried to do the same with servers (Win NT4.0), but can't get it to browse. I am using a gateway setting of 10.1.1.17 for server2, and 192.168.1.1 for server1. Not sure what else to do. I added helper-address statements for R12, but that did not help. Please let me know, if there is anything else I can try. Thanks. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab
hi guys i just passed my written , going for the lab within the next 3 months i wana know about two topics on the lab and how they can be handled first is Voice ?? second is VPN and security ?? how should one prepare for the voice ..wat is yr recommendations ? is there any VPN in the lab ?? security and firwall features is there thx in advance Mohamed A.Heeba _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: transfer rate
At the risk of being anal retentive ( quiet, Rodgers :- ) we mustn't forget the MTU, window size, TCP and IP headers, and ack's. I believe we have done a couple of threads along these lines over time. Memory probably doesn't serve, but I believe one can count on a 10-15% overhead cost. Also, it looks to me like the calculation below lost a couple of zeros along the way. My fingers and toes tell me that 230 Mbytes=1840mbits, which divided by 1.54 mbits per second comes out to 1195 seconds, or close to 20 minutes. That would bring the actual file transfer speed come to about 164 seconds, if everything works the way it is supposed to. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 7:23 PM To: SH Wesson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: transfer rate On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, SH Wesson wrote: How do we go about calculating how long it takes to calculate something and the speed at which it is transferring. For instance, if we have a T1 circuit (full 1.544MB) or a 128KB link, how long will it take to transfer a 230MB file and how fast does it transfer per second, minute, etc. I can't seem to find anything that deals with calculating this sort of thing on Cisco's site. Thanks. Its just basic mathmatics really. If a circuit is transmitting at 1.544Mbps, you can break it down as follows: Convert to bytes 1544000 bits per second = 193000 bytes per second 193000 bytes per second / 1024 = 188.47656 kbytes per second 2300kbytes per second / 188.47656 = 12.203 seconds Assuming ideal conditions (full wire speed etc) Also realistically you need to back out the framing bits and recalculate at 1536000 since the framing bits are unusablebut its not going to move that figure much. With ISDN it would go like 128000 bites per second = 16000 bytes per second 16000 bytes per second / 1024 = 15.625 kbytes per second 2300kbytes per second / 15.625 = 147.2 seconds And this jives, since a T1 is 12 times faster than a 128k isdn line. Brian _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: xmodem software
Copy your IOS image to a PC which has Hyperterminal. You can run xmodem from there without anything more needed. Before you resort to xmodem though, I suggest you see of your router has the 'dnld' command available in ROMMON, and use a TFTP server to download the image if possible. It will save you a lot of time, mark my words. - Original Message - From: Hubert Pun [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Cisco Study Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 6:25 PM Subject: xmodem software Hi, In case I need to use xmodem to download IOS image to the router. what kind of xmodem software i need at my computer? And can I download this kind of image from anywhere? thanks in advanced _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco memory
Everyone who reads the first line of the output knows this! :- Hey, Sasa, this was a good tip, for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is all of us should probably spend more time examining al of the options of the various show commands. Thanks. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of derek lewinson Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 4:18 PM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: cisco@groupstudy. com Subject:RE: Cisco memory you have 2 banks, each bank has 8mb installed (each chip is 2048kb in size) if I'm reading it right, you have 16mb of flash but of course, you know this! Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: 04 November 2000 15:33 To: Saa Milic; Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco memory So, Sasa, what can you tell me from this output? :- Chuck Router#sh flash chips 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY) ChipBankCode Size Name 1 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 1 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 Executing current image from System flash Router# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Saa Milic Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 5:54 AM To: Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Cisco memory Brian wrote: Lets say you have a router with 8MB flash in it. 2 slots for flash (like a 2500 series). Does anyone know of a way to see if its got 4MB in each slot or just one 8MB chip in one slot without actually opening it up? I don't think this is possible, but would save me some time if it can be done. Hi Brian, check output from 'show flash chips' - look for column 'Bank'. Saa, CCNP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Lab
hi guys i just passed my written , going for the lab within the next 3 months i wana know about two topics on the lab and how they can be handled first is Voice ?? second is VPN and security ?? how should one prepare for the voice ..wat is yr recommendations ? is there any VPN in the lab ?? security and firwall features is there thx in advance Mohamed A.Heeba _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab
1) CONGRATULATIONS!! 2) How you gonna book a lab within three months? Where you planning on taking it? 3) For voice, find someplace that has voice capable stuff, rent or borrow time, and practice. The most recent CCIE where I work said the voice part of his lab was only a couple of points. He just memorized configs and got by. 4) The blueprint on CCO has a security link that ends up here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/index.shtml 5) I have heard, but don't really know for sure, that at present, there may be some simple IPSec tunnel stuff, worth just a couple of points. I am guessing that with the recent changes, that there will be more of these kinds of security related things on the RS lab, even with the appearance of the CCIE/Security. Hey, good luck in your studies. Hope to see those four numbers after your name! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mohamed Heeba Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 8:55 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject:CCIE Lab hi guys i just passed my written , going for the lab within the next 3 months i wana know about two topics on the lab and how they can be handled first is Voice ?? second is VPN and security ?? how should one prepare for the voice ..wat is yr recommendations ? is there any VPN in the lab ?? security and firwall features is there thx in advance Mohamed A.Heeba _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: transfer rate
Nod - me too - the eyes just don't do what I tell them too any more. I was supposed to delete that last sentence about the 164 seconds. Guess I'll be firing my editor. Chuck -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 9:34 PM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: SH Wesson; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: transfer rate On Sat, 4 Nov 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote: At the risk of being anal retentive ( quiet, Rodgers :- ) we mustn't forget the MTU, window size, TCP and IP headers, and ack's. I believe we have done a couple of threads along these lines over time. Memory probably doesn't serve, but I believe one can count on a 10-15% overhead cost. Also, it looks to me like the calculation below lost a couple of zeros along the way. My fingers and toes tell me that 230 Mbytes=1840mbits, which divided by 1.54 mbits per second comes out to 1195 seconds, or close to 20 minutes. Chuck.nod, framing, headers, etc...all that was left out. You're right about the 0's, I was too tired from studying, here it is again, hopefully correct this time: T1 Convert to bytes 1544000 bits per second = 193000 bytes per second 193000 bytes per second / 1024 = 188.47656 kbytes per second 23 KB / 188.47656 = 1220.3108 seconds (20.3 min) Assuming ideal conditions (full wire speed etc) ISDN 128000 bites per second = 16000 bytes per second 16000 bytes per second / 1024 = 15.625 kbytes per second 23 KB / 15.625= 14720 seconds (245min) (~4hours) That would bring the actual file transfer speed come to about 164 seconds, if everything works the way it is supposed to. no not likely. 10Mbps ethernet couldn't even transfer 230MB in 164 seconds..think about it. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 7:23 PM To: SH Wesson Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: transfer rate On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, SH Wesson wrote: How do we go about calculating how long it takes to calculate something and the speed at which it is transferring. For instance, if we have a T1 circuit (full 1.544MB) or a 128KB link, how long will it take to transfer a 230MB file and how fast does it transfer per second, minute, etc. I can't seem to find anything that deals with calculating this sort of thing on Cisco's site. Thanks. Its just basic mathmatics really. If a circuit is transmitting at 1.544Mbps, you can break it down as follows: Convert to bytes 1544000 bits per second = 193000 bytes per second 193000 bytes per second / 1024 = 188.47656 kbytes per second 2300kbytes per second / 188.47656 = 12.203 seconds Assuming ideal conditions (full wire speed etc) Also realistically you need to back out the framing bits and recalculate at 1536000 since the framing bits are unusablebut its not going to move that figure much. With ISDN it would go like 128000 bites per second = 16000 bytes per second 16000 bytes per second / 1024 = 15.625 kbytes per second 2300kbytes per second / 15.625= 147.2 seconds And this jives, since a T1 is 12 times faster than a 128k isdn line. Brian _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab
On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Ehab Mohamad Abdullah wrote: Hi, I think VPN and security (PIX, Firewalls...etc) are no included because it is not listed in the equipment list. ipsec /firewall feature set I think is in the blueprint isn't it? Regards Ehab CCNP, MCSE, ASE, CNE -Original Message- From: Mohamed Heeba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 8:55 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: CCIE Lab hi guys i just passed my written , going for the lab within the next 3 months i wana know about two topics on the lab and how they can be handled first is Voice ?? second is VPN and security ?? how should one prepare for the voice ..wat is yr recommendations ? is there any VPN in the lab ?? security and firwall features is there thx in advance Mohamed A.Heeba _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab
is there any recommendation for the study of this topics? specially the voice ..i dont want to study extra staff which is not there on the lab .? Mohamed A.Heeba -Original Message- From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 10:55 PM To: Ehab Mohamad Abdullah Cc: 'Mohamed Heeba'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: CCIE Lab On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, Ehab Mohamad Abdullah wrote: Hi, I think VPN and security (PIX, Firewalls...etc) are no included because it is not listed in the equipment list. ipsec /firewall feature set I think is in the blueprint isn't it? Regards Ehab CCNP, MCSE, ASE, CNE -Original Message- From: Mohamed Heeba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 8:55 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: CCIE Lab hi guys i just passed my written , going for the lab within the next 3 months i wana know about two topics on the lab and how they can be handled first is Voice ?? second is VPN and security ?? how should one prepare for the voice ..wat is yr recommendations ? is there any VPN in the lab ?? security and firwall features is there thx in advance Mohamed A.Heeba _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Brian Feeny, CCNP, CCDP [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Administrator ShreveNet Inc. (ASN 11881) _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Terminal server not able to Reverse Telnet
You probably still have a session connected to that router. To check that, use "show session" command. It lists all active sessions. If you see a session connected to the router you want to telenet to, just type the number, for example 2, then return. It will take you to that particular router or switch. Hope it helps. George Zhang Manishkumar Patel wrote: Dear All, Hi! I have setup 2511 as Terminal Server, with the Octal RJ-45 cables connected to Console port of 4 2500 Routers. During a day the reverse Telnet works fine, but when I try to Telnet on next day morning, it says " CONNECTION REFUSED", What can be the Problem solution? It works fine after Rebooting the Terminal Server. Your help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance...Have a nice weekend. Regards MK Andre Fecteau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Attachment: MIME Type: multipart/alternative - I configured some routers for ISDN, but one of the spids is coming up invalid can anyone tell me why? I put the BRI configurations for both sides as well as the error message that I'm getting. Can someone help me fix this problem? By the way I called the service provider and they said everything is OK regarding the ISDN lines and spids. I can telnet and other things, but I just can't get both channels to come up at the same time. And obviously at least from my limited knowledge base the invalid spid has something to do with that! I've been pulling my hair out over this one for a few days! I'd like a solution, but all suggestions are more than welcome!!! Both side have this: isdn switch-type basic-ni isdn voice-call-failure 0 isdn tei-negotiation first-call One side interface BRI1/1 ip address x.x.x.x x.x.x.x ip nat inside encapsulation ppp dialer map ip y.y.y.y name y broadcast yyy(first #) dialer map ip y.y.y.y name y broadcast yyy(second #) dialer load-threshold 10 either dialer-group 1 isdn switch-type basic-ni isdn spid1 xx xxx isdn spid2 xx xxx ppp authentication chap ppp multilink ! Other side: ! interface BRI1/0 ip address y.y.y.y y.y.y.y encapsulation ppp dialer map ip x.x.x.x name x broadcast xxx(first #) dialer map ip x.x.x.x name x broadcast xxx(second #) dialer load-threshold 1 outbound dialer-group 1 isdn switch-type basic-ni isdn spid1 yy yyy isdn spid2 yy yyy ppp authentication chap ppp multilink ! This is the ISDN status : The other side is the same except both spids are valid! Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni ISDN BRI1/0 interface dsl 8, interface ISDN Switchtype = basic-ni Layer 1 Status: ACTIVE Layer 2 Status: TEI = 73, Ces = 1, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED TEI = 74, Ces = 2, SAPI = 0, State = MULTIPLE_FRAME_ESTABLISHED TEI 73, ces = 1, state = 5(init) spid1 configured, spid1 NOT sent, spid1 valid Endpoint ID Info: epsf = 0, usid = 40, tid = 1 TEI 74, ces = 2, state = 4(await init) spid2 configured, spid2 sent, spid2 NOT valid Layer 3 Status: 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s) Activated dsl 8 CCBs = 0 The Free Channel Mask: 0x8003 Help! Andre -- Andre Fecteau Unix Software Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] CNE3, 4 CCNA Get free email and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Cisco memory
Rsl works fine on erased flash.. regards jose peter - Original Message -- "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To:"Circusnuts" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Sasa Milic" [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] From:"Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date:Sat, 4 Nov 2000 20:58:41 -0800 CC:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco memory For obvious reasons I don't want to try this, but if you did erase the flash, would RSL work? I guess I actually SHOULD try this. I've heard rumors that the break/fix in the lab requires skills beyond simple password recovery. Chuck -Original Message- From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 3:30 PM To: Chuck Larrieu; Sasa Milic; Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Cisco memory Alright- new twist to this question... when installing two 4 Meg sticks, normally you want to spoof the router into thinking it's one 8 Meg stick. If you see two sticks- you either have 2 Megs, 8 Megs, or 16 Megs ( we know we can confirmed the total size, within the IOS). The only thing I can tell you about having two 4 Meg sticks in a 2500, is when you erase them (or install new) they default to 2 partitions of 4 Megs (needing the no partition command to make them one). If we cannot get the IOS to confirm (which just might make sense), if you don't want to pull the case, then erase the FLASH ( watch for it's default)... .02 Phil - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Sasa Milic" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 1:33 PM Subject: RE: Cisco memory So, Sasa, what can you tell me from this output? :- Chuck Router#sh flash chips 16384K bytes of processor board System flash (Read ONLY) ChipBankCode Size Name 1 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 1 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 1 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 2 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 3 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 4 2 01AD 2048KBAMD 29F016 Executing current image from System flash Router# -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Sasa Milic Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 5:54 AM To: Brian Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cisco memory Brian wrote: Lets say you have a router with 8MB flash in it. 2 slots for flash (like a 2500 series). Does anyone know of a way to see if its got 4MB in each slot or just one 8MB chip in one slot without actually opening it up? I don't think this is possible, but would save me some time if it can be done. Hi Brian, check output from 'show flash chips' - look for column 'Bank'. Sasa, CCNP _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Chat with your friends as soon as they come online. Get Rediff Bol at http://bol.rediff.com Participate in crazy auctions at http://auctions.rediff.com/auctions/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab
You are incorrect in your assumption, VPN, IPSec and the IOS firewall set are all distinct possibilities on the lab. These are all IOS based and do not require a PIX. Count on them being on the lab. Louie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ehab Mohamad Abdullah Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2000 11:26 PM To: 'Mohamed Heeba' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Hi, I think VPN and security (PIX, Firewalls...etc) are no included because it is not listed in the equipment list. Regards Ehab CCNP, MCSE, ASE, CNE -Original Message- From: Mohamed Heeba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2000 8:55 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: CCIE Lab hi guys i just passed my written , going for the lab within the next 3 months i wana know about two topics on the lab and how they can be handled first is Voice ?? second is VPN and security ?? how should one prepare for the voice ..wat is yr recommendations ? is there any VPN in the lab ?? security and firwall features is there thx in advance Mohamed A.Heeba _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
