Cisco 800 And DDR [7:13239]
Hi there, I got A small question iam using Cisco 800 and my problem is that whenever the ISDN line gets disconnected it wont re-dail and when I boot the Router it dosent dial. Only when I take out an interstiong packet from it outside, Now, on Cisco 16003R I am using RTR function but on the 800 it's not availablle, So any Ideas? Help will be apprichated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13239&t=13239 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
re: good news and bad news for 1 day lab [7:13240]
[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] 8000!!! Is this possible??? Assuming even a marginal passing rate, that sure dumps a lot of CCIEs into an already depressed employment arena. Surely the VAR appetite can't be that ravenous with the techonomy on its backside? Maybe those "trucking schools" that advertise on late night tv will soon branch out into CCIE training/quickie certification as well. I'm fearing the day that I see a "Guaranteed CCIE in 7 days" banner on any given tech site. This doesn't sound that far-fetched if Cisco caves further and simply allows/promotes widespread remote-access "lab" testing [which will no doubt be considered attractive by some bean counters at Cisco who will always strive for full automation -- effectively reducing the "lab" terminology to a complete joke as it becomes just another rote memorization mcse-like exercise]. Let's hope not btw -- Based on my experience in the field (which may not necessarily be a great example), it seems that quite often MANY network "problems" are related to the "no brainer" topics that Cisco is reportedly electing to eliminate (setting up and troubleshooting cabling and addressing issues). Nothing like sacrificing the fundamentals at the altar of expediency. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ahmed Mamoor Amimi Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:34 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: good news and bad news for 1 day lab [7:13237] Guys, There are some good news and some bad for the CCIE LAB exam . Good News : 1- the lab is changing into one day lab (not to stress on 2 day hard working) 2- the basic configuration like ip addressing and cabling are pre-installed 3- the best in all no reverse telneting (no need to practic on access server) 4- lab can now be schedul earlier 5- affective from 1 sept. 6- no need to take the written exam again if u are of old one as both the written and lab is changing 7- all the topics are unchanged so no need to look for more... only patren had changed 8- best in all the 30 marks seperate troubleshooting is not requried but will be testing on that same day th proctor will monitor u how u troubleshoot devices. 9- The knob switch will be added to the lab for shifting from one router to another for config. (very easy)... and it will cost u around $40. Bad news : 1- According to CISCO the market have only 6000 CCIE around the globle so more should be needed so i think the CCIE will be in SURPLUS after it like MCSE and CCNP as they are giving relax to this project. 2- 3900 token ring switch is added. 3- may be LS1010 will be added to the lab. 4- according to JEFF (CCIE lab Manager) the VoIP will be in the lab at anytime. 5- There are around 8000 people to go for the CCIE lab in sept till nov. so i thing there will be many CCIE .. oo Hey you! Claim your FREE anonymous email account: Click Here -> http://www.anonymous.to Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13240&t=13240 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE written [7:7411]
I studied from all three and I think they all had good material. The test is $300 to fail; you can get all three bosons for 1/3 of that. I'd say get all three and spend your time with them; this is the hardest of the Cisco tests and I wouldn't want to blow it to save $30. I'd also take a look at the getting some of the books or study guides that have come out recently. I wouldn't trust one source, no matter how good. Just my $.02 (but I passed) >g_study wrote: > > > Bosson offers Practice Test #1, Test #2, Test #3 for the CCIE written. >Which > > is the best? _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13241&t=7411 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good news and bad news for 1 day lab.... [7:13237]
LONG LIVE JUNIPER >From: "Ahmed Mamoor Amimi" >Reply-To: "Ahmed Mamoor Amimi" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: good news and bad news for 1 day lab [7:13237] >Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 02:33:36 -0400 > >Guys, >There are some good news and some bad for the CCIE LAB exam . > >Good News : >1- the lab is changing into one day lab (not to stress on 2 day hard >working) >2- the basic configuration like ip addressing and cabling are pre-installed >3- the best in all no reverse telneting (no need to practic on access >server) >4- lab can now be schedul earlier >5- affective from 1 sept. >6- no need to take the written exam again if u are of old one as both the >written and lab is changing >7- all the topics are unchanged so no need to look for more... only patren >had changed >8- best in all the 30 marks seperate troubleshooting is not requried but >will be testing on that same day th proctor will monitor u how u >troubleshoot devices. >9- The knob switch will be added to the lab for shifting from one router to >another for config. (very easy)... and it will cost u around $40. > > >Bad news : >1- According to CISCO the market have only 6000 CCIE around the globle so >more should be needed so i think the CCIE will be in SURPLUS after it like >MCSE and CCNP as they are giving relax to this project. >2- 3900 token ring switch is added. >3- may be LS1010 will be added to the lab. >4- according to JEFF (CCIE lab Manager) the VoIP will be in the lab at >anytime. >5- There are around 8000 people to go for the CCIE lab in sept till nov. so >i thing there will be many CCIE .. oo > > > > misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13242&t=13237 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
Hi group, (Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam at the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, curiousity made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I discovered that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to write it anyhow and thank God I passed. I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press book for that exam. Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and get his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the exam proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would agree with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who boast of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is certified, by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways through which he can really be of more immense surpport and help to us. Please you are free to confirm or otherwise contradict what I have just said. I wish you all well. My 2 cents Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13243&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: good news and bad news for 1 day lab.... [7:13237]
Coments inline: > Guys, > There are some good news and some bad for the CCIE LAB exam . > > Good News : > 1- the lab is changing into one day lab (not to stress on 2 day hard > working) It will still be stressful I'm sure. > 2- the basic configuration like ip addressing and cabling are pre-installed. I would agree that that is good, Like it has been said a million time already, The addressing should be covered in the written. The cabling part is a "no brainer" anyway. > 3- the best in all no reverse telneting (no need to practic on access > server) That is Good? Reverse telnet is a good thing to learn. Although not that hard, I have set up many a 3660 as a pure consol access server for large server farms, etc. > 4- lab can now be schedul earlier Thats definitly good for Cisco's revenue. And good for future CCIE's stress level while studying. > 5- affective from 1 sept. > 6- no need to take the written exam again if u are of old one as both the > written and lab is changing. That is a definitely good, the less money we have to give sylvan, the better !! > 7- all the topics are unchanged so no need to look for more... only patren > had changed > 8- best in all the 30 marks seperate troubleshooting is not requried but > will be testing on that same day th proctor will monitor u how u > troubleshoot devices. We will see how that goes, > 9- The knob switch will be added to the lab for shifting from one router to > another for config. (very easy)... and it will cost u around $40. No terminal server at all ??? Some funky serial switch instead of a term server. Wierd. > Bad news : > 1- According to CISCO the market have only 6000 CCIE around the globle so > more should be needed so i think the CCIE will be in SURPLUS after it like > MCSE and CCNP as they are giving relax to this project. It's more like 4 of 5 thousand. Lot's of CCIE's have not recertified or are Inactive. > 2- 3900 token ring switch is added. Huh ?? That switch has been in the lab for over a year already. Where are you getting your information ?? > 3- may be LS1010 will be added to the lab. I doubt it. The ATM portion has been slowly getting easier and easier. Not much call for LANE in the real world anymore. > 4- according to JEFF (CCIE lab Manager) the VoIP will be in the lab at > anytime. That's nothing new either. Voice has been in the lab for WAY over a year now. I see them stepping this up even more, but not too much. The new Voice CCIE will be focused in this area. > 5- There are around 8000 people to go for the CCIE lab in sept till nov. so > i thing there will be many CCIE .. oo 8K people being tested in a 3 month period ??? I don't think s. I think it's too early to get all freaked out about the new format. Time will tell. However, It's a wake up call for me. As has been mentioned in earlier threads, it's time for me to be more "well rounded". I'm going to upgrade my MCSE, learn active directory, Get some solid UNIX skills and Net managment skills, Continue my studies in other technologies like Sonet, IP telephoney, SS7, etc. I just see the writing on the wall. It says: " The CCIE is not all you need to get a foot in the door anymore, you need LOTS of skills." And you know what? I can't bitch about it. I got into this industry cus I liked the challange. Can't stop being challanged just because I got a brass hocky puck in a frame. My $2000 rubels Tony M. #6172 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13244&t=13237 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Working Frame Relay Point-to-Point Config [7:13245]
Hello Group, Could someone point me to (or send me) a working config for a Frame switch and routers attached to it, using point-to-point connections. I'm currently stuck on this for my routers, as the PVCs are there but in a deleted state. I probably should have included my configs in this email, but I'm not at my routers at the moment, and I'm sure it's something simple that I have missed. Thanks for your help. Albert _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13245&t=13245 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
peer to peer IPX [7:13246]
7/22/2001 7:45am Sunday It is possible to run IPX between WIN 95 workstations without a server on the segment? Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13246&t=13246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Working Frame Relay Point-to-Point Config [7:13245]
Deleted means that the Frame Relay switch doesn't have this DLCI programmed for the router. But it was programmed at some point in the past. This could also be caused by the DLCIs being reversed on the router, or by the PVC being deleted by the telco in the Frame Relay cloud. Configuring a DLCI (that the switch doesn't have) will show up as a 0x4 -Original Message- From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 4:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Working Frame Relay Point-to-Point Config [7:13245] Hello Group, Could someone point me to (or send me) a working config for a Frame switch and routers attached to it, using point-to-point connections. I'm currently stuck on this for my routers, as the PVCs are there but in a deleted state. I probably should have included my configs in this email, but I'm not at my routers at the moment, and I'm sure it's something simple that I have missed. Thanks for your help. Albert _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13247&t=13245 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: peer to peer IPX [7:13246]
ofcourse u can its a protocol -Original Message- From: Mr. Richard L. Pickard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: peer to peer IPX [7:13246] 7/22/2001 7:45am Sunday It is possible to run IPX between WIN 95 workstations without a server on the segment? Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] // Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13248&t=13246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Working Frame Relay Point-to-Point Config [7:13245]
rather than us supply you with working configs, why don't you tell us what you have done? what troubleshooting have you performed? on the frame switch have you checked your frame routes? are you sure they are correct? do you have the DCE end of the cable attached to the interface where the clock rate is configured? this may not be the same as the interface where the frame intf-type DCE is configured. if your show frame pvc is indicating deleted, your configured DLCIs are not correct. make sure what you have configured on the router links match what is configured on the frame switch link. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Albert Lu Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:56 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Working Frame Relay Point-to-Point Config [7:13245] Hello Group, Could someone point me to (or send me) a working config for a Frame switch and routers attached to it, using point-to-point connections. I'm currently stuck on this for my routers, as the PVCs are there but in a deleted state. I probably should have included my configs in this email, but I'm not at my routers at the moment, and I'm sure it's something simple that I have missed. Thanks for your help. Albert _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13249&t=13245 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
personally, I appreciate good advice wherever I find it. I don't believe that good advice is limited to those who have the exact qualifications to which I aspire. there are plenty of folks on this list who have no certifications, or did not have certifications when they wrote the books that have helped me. not to mention the ongoing learning they contribute to this list. I believe it is a disservice to yourself to base your selection criteria solely on certifications in hand. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA. Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] Hi group, (Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam at the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, curiousity made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I discovered that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to write it anyhow and thank God I passed. I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press book for that exam. Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and get his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the exam proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would agree with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who boast of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is certified, by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways through which he can really be of more immense surpport and help to us. Please you are free to confirm or otherwise contradict what I have just said. I wish you all well. My 2 cents Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13251&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Trivia mostly, Need an EE's answer probably. [7:13252]
When the Receive and Transmit paths are distinct, I believe that there is no minimum length. NY50TT wrote: > > We all hear about max cable lengths for Ethernet. But is there a minimum? > If the TX pair of one side connects to the RX pair of the other, then > collisions, if any, happen at the ingress of the hub or switch in the > buffer, or on the buffer of the nic if just using a really short cross over, > is this right? I've looked and looked, and haven't been able to get an > answer that says "the minimun length of a Category 5 100Base connection is x > feet" even the spec seems to be silent on it. What am I missing in my > knowledge of physics and electronics? > > p.s. My foot long patches between hosts and a hub don't seem to cause > errors. I'll stick a sniffer in this week and see if I see any. I'm > manufacturing these 3 inch patch cables for my test. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13252&t=13252 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ping won't work! [7:13253]
Hi, i have another troubleshooting problem. 2 routers A and B are both directly connected : s0 - s0, s1 - s1, and the e0 of routerB is connected to the switch.I set the default gateway on the switch to the e0 of router B.All links are up.I could ping each connected interface a while ago,but right now i can't.I did some other configs on the roouters,but that didn't affect the interfaces being up.They are up. Could any one pls tell me what i could be neglecting.The "sh ip arp" and "sh ip route" both show that they are directly connected and the ip add has been mapped. thanks >chika __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13253&t=13253 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
Both authors/publishers are different. I used cisco press for one test and sybex for another. I felt better prepared by cisco press material. I don't think that is due to a lack of a certification on the sybex end of things, but more due to the fact that c.p. just goes into more detail in their books, therefore increasing the level of material covered on a particular subject. Comparing you way via subject matter with both books is really the way to go. Just a opinion and what I plan on doing for my next test. Jenn >= Original Message From "Chuck Larrieu" = >personally, I appreciate good advice wherever I find it. I don't believe >that good advice is limited to those who have the exact qualifications to >which I aspire. there are plenty of folks on this list who have no >certifications, or did not have certifications when they wrote the books >that have helped me. not to mention the ongoing learning they contribute to >this list. I believe it is a disservice to yourself to base your selection >criteria solely on certifications in hand. > >Chuck > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA. >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:35 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] > > >Hi group, >(Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own >experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong >and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) > >I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through >my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book >for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, >RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. > >I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my >hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of >the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the >residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From >then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam >at >the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, >curiousity >made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I >discovered >that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd >lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to >write it anyhow and thank God I passed. > >I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have >taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press >book for that exam. > >Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and >get >his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the >exam >proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a >good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would >agree >with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on >job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who >boast >of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. > >Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is >certified, >by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity >and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to >shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. > >Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great >contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways >through which he can really be of more immense surpport and help to us. > >Please you are free to confirm or otherwise contradict what I have just >said. > >I wish you all well. > >My 2 cents >Regards. Have a great day! Jenn Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13254&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
>"Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA." wrote, > >Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and >get >his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the exam >proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a >good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would >agree >with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on >job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who >boast >of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. > >Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is >certified, >by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity >and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to >shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. I disagree. I'm an inactive CCSI, under the "old school" certification rules. While I direct CertificationZone's content, I have no intention of getting further Cisco certifications. This is for a couple of reasons, and, without speaking for Todd, might very well be his reasons. Cisco's lawyers are extremely aggressive at pursuing what they consider even the appearance of NDA violations. I can't be accused of violating the confidentiality of a test I've never taken. Second, I take the viewpoint that I am preparing materials that first help the student understand the test content, and second deal with test mechanics. The world is full of examples of people that are extremely effective teachers of subjects that they either never practiced or no longer currently practice. I think you'll find that most sports coaches with a significant winning record were not Hall of Fame in their sports. Most protocol developers are not CCIEs. Some very good obstetricians are men. The best collegiate fencer I knew was at a time when women could not compete, so she became her team coach. I believe it's more important to have a thorough understanding of the principles of the test than the test mechanics. On this list and elsewhere, including open Cisco sources, there is a lot of material > >Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great >contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways >through which he can really be of more immense surpport and help to us. You are correct that the Cisco Press authors are able to get closer to the course material without offending Cisco, but I doubt they have access to the question pool. > >Please you are free to confirm or otherwise contradict what I have just said. > >I wish you all well. > >My 2 cents >Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13256&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [7:13198]
I have a suggestion for this problem... If packets only above a certain datagram size are being dropped, perhaps one of the devices that the pings are traversing has it's MTU set way too low. A good way to troubleshoot this is to do an extended ping with the DF set and try pinging with sweeping sizes. You will get in return which device is denying the packet due to it's MTU and don't fragment set to 1. This will tell you what device it is stopping at and what it's configured MTU is. Hope this helps. Michael ToddJohn Neiberger wrote: > > Did you check your duplex settings on both ends of that > connection? Your > end device may be set for half duplex and the switch might be > set for full > duplex. This sort of thing happens regularly with > autonegotiation. If you > have auto turned on anywhere, turn it off and hard set your > settings. > > Check those settings and let us know if that's not the > problem. If it > isn't, it will probably be something pretty interesting. > > John > > | I'm loosing all the packets above 170 bytes which is > unusual, and there > are > | no late collisions and its a FastE connected to a Switch. > | > | Regards, > | > | Tarry > | > | > | > | -Original Message- > | From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > | Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 5:50 AM > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > | Subject: Re: Datagram size bigger than 200 get packet loss > [7:13166] > | > | > | Check your interfaces for late collisions. It could be that > you have a > | duplex mismatch and a device that is set for full duplex is > stomping on > | other devices set for half duplex. This is very common when > you have > | devices connected to an ethernet hub. They should all be > set for half > | duplex, and if one of them is set for full duplex it will > transmit > without > | checking to see if someone else is transmitting. > | > | You didn't say how much packet loss you had, but in the > scenario above, > the > | larger the packet transmitted by the half duplex station, > the more likely > it > | is that the full duplex station will try to transmit at the > same time. > | > | HTH, > | John > | > | | Hi All, > | | > | | When I try to ping with a Datagram Size bigger than 200 > in a LAN I get > | | packet loss. Dose any one know the reason? > | | > | | Regards, > | | > | | Tarry > | | > | | > | | -- > | | GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > | | http://www.gmx.net > | | > | | GMX Tipp: > | | > | | Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! > | | > http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a > | | > | | > | | > | | > | ___ > | Send a cool gift with your E-Card > | http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > | > | > | > | > | > | -- > | GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > | http://www.gmx.net > | > | GMX Tipp: > | > | Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! > | > http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a > | > > > > > > ___ > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13257&t=13198 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ping won't work! [7:13253]
Could be anything! Verify that show arp in both routers show eachothers IP addresses. Make sure that addressing is similar (same mask and subnet). Verify that connected interfaces are up/up (without keepalives being disabled). Can you ping serial to serial? Ethernet to ethernet? Michael Todd Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13258&t=13253 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
Howard's got some excellent points in his post--especially with regard to the fact that even though you haven't passed a particular exam doesn't mean that you're not qualified to develop material for that exam... Although I can't find any information as to exactly what certifications Todd has, I wouldn't dismiss the lack of formally presenting his certifications as that he doesn't hold those certifications. I would strongly suspect that he does. Like Todd, I too write certification material for Sybex. Anyone who developed the original Sybex "Virtual Test Centers" was required to write the corresponding certification exam. I'd suspect Sybex expects the same of Todd -- that they expect him to write the corresponding exam for each book. With respect to your dismissing Todd based on the CCDA book--Todd's listed as a "contributor". That doesn't mean that he put the book together himself... exactly what his role was in the production of that book is vague. Some people like Todd's books because he approaches things differently than Cisco Press books do--and that's what Sybex offers that's different from Cisco. If you have nothing unique to offer over your competitor, you have no product. Some people like Sybex best, others like Cisco best. Personally, I like being able to get the guts of the information while also getting background as to why things work the way and anecdotal stories about how things may have been implemented. Howard B's definitely a great resource when it comes to history and experience - not only because he's so incredibly knowledgable, but also because he enjoys sharing his experiences with others which enhances their knowledge bases. I don't think you'll ever find a Cisco Press (nor Sybex) book talking about 1's and 0's being like smoke--the 0 bits float in the air like cigarette smoke, while the 1 bits fall to the floor. Or what about the problems associated with running telephone lines on farmer's fence posts? And when I write, I try to incorporate things people might not be aware of and that's what makes what I have to offer different than anyone else. I have my own unique experiences... And for some topics, I've got more experience than others, so you'll find some of my material better than others. Welcome to "authordom" (as I like to call it). -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA. Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] Hi group, (Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam at the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, curiousity made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I discovered that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to write it anyhow and thank God I passed. I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press book for that exam. Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and get his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the exam proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would agree with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who boast of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is certified, by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways through which he can really be o
Re: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
I agree with Chuck... I'll take good advice from anywhere I can get it This goes back to : "where go you get your good judgment?" "I get my good judgment from good experience!" "And where do you get your good experience?" "From bad judgment!" I tend to like the Cisco Press books more for the certification series than the others. First, Cisco is putting their name on the books - Granted, Cisco Press is another publishing company and they are out to make money. However I have to believe that when a Cisco Press book says CCNP/CCDP, it follows the actual Cisco course material more closely, at least that is my experience from reading the books then taking the exams. Remember, there are many ways to do something... but there is also the "Cisco way" - not to say that the Cisco way is always right, or even wrong, but when they make a statement in a class, it should be that way for the exam. Like the difference between a pilot and a prototype... I come from an electronics engineering background... I think Cisco has the terms reversed in their texts... But when it comes to the exam... its the Cisco Way. There are many authors out there, of which I am one. I was a contributing author to a book in a CCNP series. My certification doesn't mean that I am an expert, and by no means does my Cisco certification qualify me to teach. The sign of a good author or instructor is how well they are able to present the material... Yes, they have to know the material, and this is through experience. However, my experience doesn't provide me with any more insight to the Cisco exams than the person reading the book other than I have taken the exam and passed. I make statements relating to the exam blueprint, and those statements are related to my education and my experience keeping in mind, that my answer may not be the Cisco answer - Ed Edward A. Moss CCNP-VA, CCDP, CNE Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13260&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
Okay, okay. Who'd ever to think to look at the back of a book for author credentials? I looked inside. I looked at Todd's website. I DIDN'T flip the book over. Todd's a CCNP... (and MCSE, MCT, MCNE, and CNI). -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Leigh Anne Chisholm Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 11:11 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] Howard's got some excellent points in his post--especially with regard to the fact that even though you haven't passed a particular exam doesn't mean that you're not qualified to develop material for that exam... Although I can't find any information as to exactly what certifications Todd has, I wouldn't dismiss the lack of formally presenting his certifications as that he doesn't hold those certifications. I would strongly suspect that he does. Like Todd, I too write certification material for Sybex. Anyone who developed the original Sybex "Virtual Test Centers" was required to write the corresponding certification exam. I'd suspect Sybex expects the same of Todd -- that they expect him to write the corresponding exam for each book. With respect to your dismissing Todd based on the CCDA book--Todd's listed as a "contributor". That doesn't mean that he put the book together himself... exactly what his role was in the production of that book is vague. Some people like Todd's books because he approaches things differently than Cisco Press books do--and that's what Sybex offers that's different from Cisco. If you have nothing unique to offer over your competitor, you have no product. Some people like Sybex best, others like Cisco best. Personally, I like being able to get the guts of the information while also getting background as to why things work the way and anecdotal stories about how things may have been implemented. Howard B's definitely a great resource when it comes to history and experience - not only because he's so incredibly knowledgable, but also because he enjoys sharing his experiences with others which enhances their knowledge bases. I don't think you'll ever find a Cisco Press (nor Sybex) book talking about 1's and 0's being like smoke--the 0 bits float in the air like cigarette smoke, while the 1 bits fall to the floor. Or what about the problems associated with running telephone lines on farmer's fence posts? And when I write, I try to incorporate things people might not be aware of and that's what makes what I have to offer different than anyone else. I have my own unique experiences... And for some topics, I've got more experience than others, so you'll find some of my material better than others. Welcome to "authordom" (as I like to call it). -- Leigh Anne -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA. Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] Hi group, (Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam at the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, curiousity made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I discovered that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to write it anyhow and thank God I passed. I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press book for that exam. Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and get his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the exam proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would agree with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who boast of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. Let Todd Lammle at be pat
Re: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
Howard In some of the advertising blurb I've seen they suggest that the same Cisco Press men/women/whatever have a hand in writing the questions in the pool. Whether it is spin or not the suggestion is that if you buy a Cisco Press book you buy part of the family jewels. I can't see Cisco missing a profit if they have a hand in the publishing. Surely Cisco Press is sanctioned by Cisco purely by reason of the name, could you see them doing a second best for their own publishers. However the books are quite high brow when compared to Sybex or Syngress. I suggest that if you have the cash that Syngress to Sybex, Sybex to Cisco is about right as it covers a gentle learning curve. My tuppence worth. Karl - Original Message - From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:23 PM Subject: Re: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] > >"Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA." wrote, > > > >Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and > >get > >his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the > exam > >proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a > >good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would > >agree > >with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on > >job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who > >boast > >of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. > > > >Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is > >certified, > >by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity > >and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to > >shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. > > > I disagree. I'm an inactive CCSI, under the "old school" > certification rules. While I direct CertificationZone's content, I > have no intention of getting further Cisco certifications. This is > for a couple of reasons, and, without speaking for Todd, might very > well be his reasons. > > Cisco's lawyers are extremely aggressive at pursuing what they > consider even the appearance of NDA violations. I can't be accused > of violating the confidentiality of a test I've never taken. > > Second, I take the viewpoint that I am preparing materials that first > help the student understand the test content, and second deal with > test mechanics. The world is full of examples of people that are > extremely effective teachers of subjects that they either never > practiced or no longer currently practice. I think you'll find that > most sports coaches with a significant winning record were not Hall > of Fame in their sports. Most protocol developers are not CCIEs. > Some very good obstetricians are men. The best collegiate fencer I > knew was at a time when women could not compete, so she became her > team coach. > > I believe it's more important to have a thorough understanding of the > principles of the test than the test mechanics. On this list and > elsewhere, including open Cisco sources, there is a lot of material > > > > >Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great > >contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways > >through which he can really be of more immense surpport and help to us. > > > You are correct that the Cisco Press authors are able to get closer > to the course material without offending Cisco, but I doubt they have > access to the question pool. > > > > >Please you are free to confirm or otherwise contradict what I have just > said. > > > >I wish you all well. > > > >My 2 cents > >Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13263&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
All - As an author who has worked closely with Todd I would like to set the record straight, and I will also invite him to join in this discussion. There are three classifications of author - an author, a co-author, and a contributor. CiscoPress adds a fourth - an editor. An author typically writes the most chapters and is responsible for the outline of the book. He or she may read all the materials from others, but not always. A co-author typically writes a few chapters, and may contribute to the outline. Contributors may write up to a chapter, and may contribute advise or other materials (glossary, introduction, etc). Editors typically take material from other sources and combine them. For CID, I wrote the book. Todd provided guidance, the glossary, and the base introduction. We edited it in Dallas, FYI. I am proud of the text, and disappointed to learn that a reader was unhappy with the CCDA book and chose to avoid the CID material as a result. The same is also true - you may love the CCNA text, but that doesn't mean that the Routing book will work for you. Typically we, through Sybex, Syngress, etc., (I am working on a book for Syngress now (AVVID)), try to maintain a consistent level and style, but sometimes the author's background or expertise alters this. In addition, for the certifications, all of us (to my knowledge) have passed the test at least once and many take the test a few times. We also use (based on my experience) sample tests, CCO, the Cisco materials, other's experiences, and feedback from readers. It is permitted to write a book on a subject without attaining the certification related to that test (but you must still pass that one test). As a former journalist, I was forced to learn how to research a topic I knew nothing about and present it, then forget and move on. This skill is very useful in authoring, however, I am greatful to be able to select topics that I know and that are easily augmented with research. Please look at each text as its own work, and select authors based on what works for you. For example, I like to write with lots of 'experience' material and in the third person while others are successful with the first person, just the facts presentation. I test my materials by pre-releasing chapters to a couple of beginner level collegues and having them take the test. If they do well then I wrap it up... if not we try to tweak... CiscoPress is good, depending on the text, and I use them outside of writing a lot. However, these books frequently are best for people who desire less hand-holding. Sybex tends to lead the reader through the process. Both have advantages, and disadvantages. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13264&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265]
I'm trying to configure NAT on a router that is running BGP between 4 internet circuits. Can't find anything on CCO. Which interface do I use as ip nat outside? Just one or all four? I'm confused. Can anyone out there help me with this one? Thanks Everyone! Justin Lofton Account Executive/CCNA Tredent Data Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] V: (818) 222-3770 F: (818) 222-3778 http://www.tredent.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13265&t=13265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265]
I don't think it really matters which routing protocol you use. The "inside" interface is the one with the address you want to keep private (like a 10.0.0.0 address). The "outside" interface is the one with a publically-routable address (anything other than 10.0.0.0, 172.16.0.0, or 192.168.0.0). - Original Message - From: "Justin Lofton" To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > I'm trying to configure NAT on a router that is running BGP between 4 > internet circuits. Can't find anything on CCO. Which interface do I use as > ip nat outside? Just one or all four? I'm confused. Can anyone out there > help me with this one? > > Thanks Everyone! > > Justin Lofton > Account Executive/CCNA > Tredent Data Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > V: (818) 222-3770 > F: (818) 222-3778 > http://www.tredent.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13266&t=13265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RouterSim CCNP? [7:13230]
What company sells the Router Sim CCNP routing simulator? Raheem >From: "George Murphy CCNP, CCDA" >Reply-To: "George Murphy CCNP, CCDA" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: RouterSim CCNP? [7:13230] >Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 02:39:08 -0400 > >I used it and for a simulator, it seemed to be the best one, just my .2 > >Laura Combs wrote: > > > I am studying for the CCNP routing test and I was wondering if anyone >out > > there has any feed back on the RouterSim CCNP routing simulator? > > Thank you in advance >;-) _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13268&t=13230 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written change? When? [7:13267]
[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Cisco's site notes when the Lab format will be changed, but I didn't notice a date for the change (if any) to the written exam. Anyone have any ideas? Rumors? Thanks Hey you! Claim your FREE anonymous email account: Click Here -> http://www.anonymous.to Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13267&t=13267 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265]
with BGP, ( and with most protocols, for that matter ) one must consider the hop distance. BGP can also be a bit pickier in that the protocol is designed requiring the end points be on the same network. If you are natting, then by definition the endpoints are not on the same network. that said, what trickery can one use? static nat because remember your far side has to be configured with a static neighbor statement. there is no guarantee your natted BGP router will get the same address assignment every time. then there is the ebgp multihop, which needs be in place if the two neighbors are not on the same net. and there must be a route to the defined neighbor in the routing table. this is usually done by static routes. for your outside router, how do you provide a static route across public space to a private inside address? anyplace along the way some router might have a private space directly connected network of that net number, and then you're screwed. or a filter denying traffic destined to private space, and then you're screwed. and how would you troubleshoot this mess. personally, I think you're looking for trouble when you design with your edge router ( BGP ) behind NAT. what exactly are you trying to accomplish? Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of B.J. Wilson Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] I don't think it really matters which routing protocol you use. The "inside" interface is the one with the address you want to keep private (like a 10.0.0.0 address). The "outside" interface is the one with a publically-routable address (anything other than 10.0.0.0, 172.16.0.0, or 192.168.0.0). - Original Message - From: "Justin Lofton" To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:02 PM Subject: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > I'm trying to configure NAT on a router that is running BGP between 4 > internet circuits. Can't find anything on CCO. Which interface do I use as > ip nat outside? Just one or all four? I'm confused. Can anyone out there > help me with this one? > > Thanks Everyone! > > Justin Lofton > Account Executive/CCNA > Tredent Data Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > V: (818) 222-3770 > F: (818) 222-3778 > http://www.tredent.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13269&t=13265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Working Frame Relay Point-to-Point Config [7:13245]
Hi, When you say point to point what do you mean exactly? Do you mean a point-to-point "cast type" where you have one FR router connect to only one other FR router through "the cloud" or a frame switch? Or do you mean a NNI connection where one FrameRelay router can communicate directly to a physically connected Router without a frame-relay switch? Last week I spent a couple hours playing around with NNI connections but gave up in favor of sleep... in either case Cisco has examples on their website, I just haven't gotten the NNI thing to work yet. Anybody know any NNI gotcha's that may have been easily overlooked on Cisco's examples? Thanks! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13270&t=13245 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Off Topic - forbidden words [7:13271]
Just a reminder to everyone. This is a study list, and as such certain activities have been deemed inappropriate by the list owner. One of those activities is the requesting of information about brain dump sites. Unfortunately, of late, there have been enough of these that have hit the moderators' queue that it merits an explanation. If you have been posting requests asking for brain dump sites, those posts are being deleted out of hand, along with the incessant posts requesting one be subscribed or unsubscribed to the list If you are requesting information about the relative merits of various study materials, your friendly moderator is a bit more flexible. best wishes Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13271&t=13271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written change? When? [7:13267]
I'm giving you a long long look every day, every day, every day you should check the Cisco book ( i.e. CCO ) Chuck who can't resist a bad pun or any kind of straight line -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Elvis Costello Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written change? When? [7:13267] [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] Cisco's site notes when the Lab format will be changed, but I didn't notice a date for the change (if any) to the written exam. Anyone have any ideas? Rumors? Thanks Hey you! Claim your FREE anonymous email account: Click Here -> http://www.anonymous.to Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13272&t=13267 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
If he reads this column, he is probably laughing at us...as he glances at his certs plastered on the wall across from his deskhehe >= Original Message From "Leigh Anne Chisholm" = >Okay, okay. Who'd ever to think to look at the back of a book for author >credentials? I looked inside. I looked at Todd's website. I DIDN'T flip >the book over. > >Todd's a CCNP... (and MCSE, MCT, MCNE, and CNI). > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Leigh Anne Chisholm >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 11:11 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] > > >Howard's got some excellent points in his post--especially with regard to >the fact that even though you haven't passed a particular exam doesn't mean >that you're not qualified to develop material for that exam... > >Although I can't find any information as to exactly what certifications Todd >has, I wouldn't dismiss the lack of formally presenting his certifications >as that he doesn't hold those certifications. I would strongly suspect that >he does. Like Todd, I too write certification material for Sybex. Anyone >who developed the original Sybex "Virtual Test Centers" was required to >write the corresponding certification exam. I'd suspect Sybex expects the >same of Todd -- that they expect him to write the corresponding exam for >each book. > >With respect to your dismissing Todd based on the CCDA book--Todd's listed >as a "contributor". That doesn't mean that he put the book together >himself... exactly what his role was in the production of that book is >vague. > >Some people like Todd's books because he approaches things differently than >Cisco Press books do--and that's what Sybex offers that's different from >Cisco. If you have nothing unique to offer over your competitor, you have >no product. Some people like Sybex best, others like Cisco best. >Personally, I like being able to get the guts of the information while also >getting background as to why things work the way and anecdotal stories about >how things may have been implemented. Howard B's definitely a great >resource when it comes to history and experience - not only because he's so >incredibly knowledgable, but also because he enjoys sharing his experiences >with others which enhances their knowledge bases. I don't think you'll ever >find a Cisco Press (nor Sybex) book talking about 1's and 0's being like >smoke--the 0 bits float in the air like cigarette smoke, while the 1 bits >fall to the floor. Or what about the problems associated with running >telephone lines on farmer's fence posts? And when I write, I try to >incorporate things people might not be aware of and that's what makes what I >have to offer different than anyone else. I have my own unique >experiences... And for some topics, I've got more experience than others, >so you'll find some of my material better than others. Welcome to >"authordom" (as I like to call it). > > > -- Leigh Anne > > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA. >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 3:35 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] > > >Hi group, >(Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own >experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong >and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) > >I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through >my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book >for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, >RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. > >I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my >hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of >the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the >residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From >then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam >at >the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, >curiousity >made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I >discovered >that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd >lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to >write it anyhow and thank God I passed. > >I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have >taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press >book for that exam. > >Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and >get >his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the >exam >proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a >good writer and also might have some weal
Re: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265]
I don't think you want to do that. If you have the bucks for 4 internet circuits, you should have the bucks for a firewall or another router behind your edge router to do the nat. I doubt that this will work. In fact, If you have any asymmetric routing going on at all (packets going out one interface and returning on a different one), It flat out won't work. I can foresee so many issues with this setup that I wouldn't even attempt it. I suppose that if you had just static mappings and tweaked the BGP just right it might work. But if you have a circuit failure and BGP rolls over to another interface, it will break the sessions. Load balancing will be a nightmare. So will peering. Maybe this could be done with loopbacks and policy routing on the inside interface pointing at the loopbacks for the next hop... I don't know. It sounds too ugly even to try. Maybe I'm wrong, Anybody else ever try this ??? My humble opinion.. Get a firewall or another router. Tony M. #6172 - Original Message - From: Justin Lofton To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > I'm trying to configure NAT on a router that is running BGP between 4 > internet circuits. Can't find anything on CCO. Which interface do I use as > ip nat outside? Just one or all four? I'm confused. Can anyone out there > help me with this one? > > Thanks Everyone! > > Justin Lofton > Account Executive/CCNA > Tredent Data Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > V: (818) 222-3770 > F: (818) 222-3778 > http://www.tredent.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13274&t=13265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - forbidden words [7:13271]
Way to go, Chuck. Keep the wankers in check and maintain the CCIE merit and validity! Rob H. CCNP, CCDP, CCIE WR Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13275&t=13271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
Here, Here I'm with you Chuck. While I have co-authored two CCNA textbooks, I wrote and added to areas where I had experience and insight to offer. I doesn't mean that my view of a subject is the only view. As fact, It could be mistaken. However, Chuck your point was well stated in that "did not have certifications when they wrote the books that have helped me" Is not that the purpose of a text book?! If your purpose is to pass a test, then a study guide is your device Just A Thought Bill Harrison -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 9:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] personally, I appreciate good advice wherever I find it. I don't believe that good advice is limited to those who have the exact qualifications to which I aspire. there are plenty of folks on this list who have no certifications, or did not have certifications when they wrote the books that have helped me. not to mention the ongoing learning they contribute to this list. I believe it is a disservice to yourself to base your selection criteria solely on certifications in hand. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA. Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] Hi group, (Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam at the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, curiousity made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I discovered that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to write it anyhow and thank God I passed. I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press book for that exam. Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and get his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the exam proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would agree with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who boast of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is certified, by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways through which he can really be of more immense surpport and help to us. Please you are free to confirm or otherwise contradict what I have just said. I wish you all well. My 2 cents Regards. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13276&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written change? When? [7:13267]
I remember listening to elvis costello music many yrs agomany many many yrs ago. Jenn >= Original Message From "Elvis Costello" = >[demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] >Cisco's site notes when the Lab format will be changed, but I didn't notice >a date for the change (if any) to the written exam. > >Anyone have any ideas? Rumors? > >Thanks > > > >Hey you! Claim your FREE anonymous email account: >Click Here -> http://www.anonymous.to Have a great day! Jenn Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13277&t=13267 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off topic - Tools for measurement - SLA [7:13087]
Paulo, You may first want to skim through RFC's 1242/2285 for terminology of tests and measurements, plus RFC's 1944, 2544 and 2889 for the methodology of these tests. This may seem like a lot of reading but would definitely help. As far as measuring equipment is concerned you may want to look at packet generators such as SmartBits and many more. The packet generation capability of Cisco routers by typing an undocumented command "ttcp" may also be worth considering. Some custome stuff is also available which helps you measure and verify SLA's. A thorough understanding of the traffic patterns of the network-under-test is also very essential for finding out where on the network should you employ measurement tools. Aziz S. Islam -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Paulo Cesar Buerger Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 9:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Off topic - Tools for measurement - SLA [7:13087] Dear all, I would like to deploy some measurements for an IP backbone. The idea is to publish some report giving information about packet loss, latency, availability and other stuff related to SLA. What is the best way of doing this ? Latency and packet loss measurements are enough ? Could you list some good tools for this (a kind of a probe that could helping on collecting e publishing the results to the Web)? I would appreciate your help. Paulo Buerger Global Village Telecom Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13278&t=13087 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ethernet Tutorial [7:13281]
Priscilla, Just took a look at your new ethernet tutorial on certzone. I'm impressed! However, have one small nit to pick. Couldn't you insist that they use a MUCH larger font for us old geezers who don't see so good any more? :) Maybe they need to have a Senior Citizen Zone. I wonder if I could file an ADA lawsuit?!? :) Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13281&t=13281 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: monthly satement [7:13183]
hehehehe can we say scam32.exe worm. [ """ajay""" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hi! How are you? > > I send you this file in order to have your advice > > See you later. Thanks > > [GroupStudy.com removed an attachment of type application/mixed which had a > name of monthly satement.doc.lnk] > > [GroupStudy.com removed a section which didn't have a content-type header] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13280&t=13183 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
****MCSE EXAMS VOUCHERS**** [7:13283]
hi I have 5 Microsoft exam vouchers for sale They are regularly priced at $100 US ---> $150 CAN Im selling them for $100 CAN ---> $75 US The will expire in Jan 29th 2002. Please contact me if your interested. thanks Deepak Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13283&t=13283 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: FORE adapter [7:317]
>Anyone know which model FORE ATM adapter works with the Olive kernel? > > Whatever it is, I can't help but think of a martini on a golf course. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13284&t=317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
1601, dial-in server... [7:13285]
hey all :) Im trying to configure my 1601, to recieve calls via async serial port, and initiate a ppp connection, like an access server.. i can make it dial out and connect to my isp. etc, but i cant seem to get it to do the opossite. i've looked on cisco.com and im starting to think its not possible on these type of routers ? anyone done this ?? thanks :) Justin Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13285&t=13285 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connecting a 6509 to a 3500 [7:13229]
You don't need an ip address on port 2/1 on the 6509. The ip address you want to set on the 6509 is int sc0 which is the management interface on the 6509: set int sc0 up set int sc0 192.168.3.100 set ip route 0.0.0.0 192.168.3.254 (I may be slightly off on the syntax, just use the online help if I am.) Next steps apply if you are running more than one VLAN Set up a VTP domain Set 2/1 on the 6509 and 0/1 on the 3500 as trunks if you are running more than one vlan. Keep in mind that the IP address and route on both switches is for in-band management only and has nothing else to do with L2 switch operation HTH Dennis ""Kwame"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I'm having difficulty connecting a brand new 6509 to a 3500. For the 3500 I > put the ip address 192.168.3.150 on Vlan1 and added a default-gateway > 192.168.3.254. > > Now on the 6509, I set FA2/1 to 192.168.3.100. Default-gateway is the same > as that for the 3500. Port FA2/1 of the 6509 connects with multimode fiber > jacks via a media converter to Port FA0/1 of the 3500. Port FA0/24 of the > 3500 connects to a wall jack and hence the outside world. > > From the 3500 I can see the outside world but I can't reach the 6509 and > needless to say I can't get out of the 6509. I'm connecting to both > switches via console ports. > > Why is that the 6509 can't ping the 3500 or vice versa? What am I doing > wrong? I guess plenty, being a newbie. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13286&t=13229 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wan issues [7:13287]
I have eight T1s going to my 7200 router at a call center. There are two hssi interfaces (70.50.16.55 and 70.50.16.59) supporting 4T1s each. I cannot ping one of the hssi interfaces (70.50.16.59) even though it shows up up. I'm able to ping it when I log into the other interface (70.50.16.55) and even able to log into the router through this interface (70.50.16.59) from the other one (70.50.16.55).However, once I'm logged into the interface I still can't ping it despite the fact that it shows up up. I cannot also ping the 70.50.16.59 hssi interface from my remote end. can anybody tell me what might be going on here? The call center is pretty new and this has been working for sometime. The T1s are connected to ADC kentrox boxes connected to these hssi interfaces. Thank you. Felix. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13287&t=13287 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
atm switches. [7:13288]
Hey, I know some folks are looking at atm stuff for labs. There are a coupe of bat centillion atm switches on ebay. Search:(atm) I'm not the seller, but I thought you might be interested.. -ej Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13288&t=13288 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
What makes you think Todd Lammle doesn't have the certs? I think he does. (except CCIE maybe.) Also, he doesn't write all the books himself. He has a bunch of people helping him. They take the tests numerous times to make sure they understand them. They are at a disadvantage compared to Cisco Press. Cisco gives Cisco Press the actual course materials. But they still do a pretty good job at presenting easy-to-read material that will help you pass. As far as CCDA is concerned, many authors misunderstood it. They assumed it was easy because of the business-oriented stuff at the beginning. It can be a tough test, especially for people without a lot of experience, and the books should be tougher too. Priscilla > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA. > >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:35 AM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] > > > > > >Hi group, > >(Please contribute to this trend from you own experience.This is my own > >experience and perception and I will accept responsibilities for been wrong > >and will learn from my errors through your contribuctions) > > > >I wrote my last CCNP exam 23rd of last month and that was BCRAN, all through > >my CCNP series I used Cisco press except for BCSN ---I did not use any book > >for this exam, I depend on the internet, CCO and many white papers on RIP, > >RIPv2, IGRP, EIGRP, OSPF and BGP. > > > >I wrote my CCDA exam two days ago and I used Sybex cos I could not lay my > >hands on Cisco press. Guess what, I saw hell in the exam hall. At the end of > >the day I passed not because I have read the sybex book but because of the > >residual knowledge I had gathered from my CCNP series and other things. From > >then I made a decision never to read sybex. Even 20 minutes before the exam > >at > >the exam centre I saw cisco press book displayed on the bookstand, > >curiousity > >made me to pick it and just flip through it, on going through it, I > >discovered > >that I was not yet prepared for the exam going by the standard set by Todd > >lammle in his sybex book, but it was too late to cancel the exam, I had to > >write it anyhow and thank God I passed. > > > >I will be taking my CID to obtain my CCDP by the end of this month, I have > >taken the extra effort to comb the whole town and have secured a Cisco press > >book for that exam. > > > >Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go and > >get > >his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the > >exam > >proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might be a > >good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would > >agree > >with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day hands-on > >job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who > >boast > >of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail it. > > > >Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is > >certified, > >by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their simpilicity > >and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to > >shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. > > > >Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great > >contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to suggest ways > >through which he can really be of more immense surpport and help to us. > > > >Please you are free to confirm or otherwise contradict what I have just > >said. > > > >I wish you all well. > > > >My 2 cents > >Regards. >Have a great day! >Jenn Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13290&t=13243 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [7:13198]
All weekend I've been wondering about the pings over 200 bytes that don't work! ;-) Have you tried anything other than ping? Does the problem happen in both directions or just in one? You didn't tell us anything about the machine you are doing the testing from. If it's a router, it's hard to try other applications, but not impossible. Try Telnet and use an IOS command that would cause a lot of output. Try TFTPing the IOS to a TFTP server. Is it a router that supports Web management. Does that work? Were you just jerking our chains? There's no way we can help without more detail and some comments on what else you have tried. Some of the questions that get asked on this list are about as silly as me asking, "When I take Route X to the mall, I get lost. Can you tell me why?" Sometimes, we make fun of Cisco ;-), but their troubleshooting method really does work. Instead of broadcasting a message without any detail, try the steps in their troubleshooting method (taught for the CCNP test) define the problem gather facts consider possibilities create an action plan implement the plan observe results Priscilla At 12:59 PM 7/22/01, Michael Todd wrote: >I have a suggestion for this problem... >If packets only above a certain datagram size are being dropped, perhaps one >of the devices that the pings are traversing has it's MTU set way too low. A >good way to troubleshoot this is to do an extended ping with the DF set and >try pinging with sweeping sizes. You will get in return which device is >denying the packet due to it's MTU and don't fragment set to 1. This will >tell you what device it is stopping at and what it's configured MTU is. Hope >this helps. >Michael ToddJohn Neiberger wrote: > > > > Did you check your duplex settings on both ends of that > > connection? Your > > end device may be set for half duplex and the switch might be > > set for full > > duplex. This sort of thing happens regularly with > > autonegotiation. If you > > have auto turned on anywhere, turn it off and hard set your > > settings. > > > > Check those settings and let us know if that's not the > > problem. If it > > isn't, it will probably be something pretty interesting. > > > > John > > > > | I'm loosing all the packets above 170 bytes which is > > unusual, and there > > are > > | no late collisions and its a FastE connected to a Switch. > > | > > | Regards, > > | > > | Tarry > > | > > | > > | > > | -Original Message- > > | From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > | Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 5:50 AM > > | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > | Subject: Re: Datagram size bigger than 200 get packet loss > > [7:13166] > > | > > | > > | Check your interfaces for late collisions. It could be that > > you have a > > | duplex mismatch and a device that is set for full duplex is > > stomping on > > | other devices set for half duplex. This is very common when > > you have > > | devices connected to an ethernet hub. They should all be > > set for half > > | duplex, and if one of them is set for full duplex it will > > transmit > > without > > | checking to see if someone else is transmitting. > > | > > | You didn't say how much packet loss you had, but in the > > scenario above, > > the > > | larger the packet transmitted by the half duplex station, > > the more likely > > it > > | is that the full duplex station will try to transmit at the > > same time. > > | > > | HTH, > > | John > > | > > | | Hi All, > > | | > > | | When I try to ping with a Datagram Size bigger than 200 > > in a LAN I get > > | | packet loss. Dose any one know the reason? > > | | > > | | Regards, > > | | > > | | Tarry > > | | > > | | > > | | -- > > | | GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > > | | http://www.gmx.net > > | | > > | | GMX Tipp: > > | | > > | | Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! > > | | > > http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a > > | | > > | | > > | | > > | | > > | ___ > > | Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > | http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | > > | -- > > | GMX - Die Kommunikationsplattform im Internet. > > | http://www.gmx.net > > | > > | GMX Tipp: > > | > > | Machen Sie Ihr Hobby zu Geld bei unserem Partner 1&1! > > | > > http://profiseller.de/info/index.php3?ac=OM.PS.PS003K00596T0409a > > | > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Send a cool gift with your E-Card > > http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13289&t=13198 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DCE definition [7:13291]
All, I was reading thru the Sybex CCIE study guide this evening, when a came across the term DCE in the context we are all familiar with( the end of a connection that provides clocking) defined as "distributed computing environment". Perhaps the authors should get themselves a new IT encyclopedia, huh. Do Sybex books generally have many errors? I am relatively unfamiliar with them as until now I have used Cisco Press books. Christopher Supino CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA5, ASE Senior System Engineer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13291&t=13291 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243]
At 03:07 PM 7/22/01, hal9001 wrote: >Howard > >In some of the advertising blurb I've seen they suggest that the same Cisco >Press men/women/whatever have a hand in writing the questions in the pool. Cisco Press authors do not have access to the test questions/answers. Where did you see this advertising blurb? Can you give us a URL? Cisco Press publishes many types of books. The ones that say "edited by" are the course materials ported to book format. They are usually a very good fit to the test. The study guides are original work, (often by CCSIs), to help you pass the test. Some of these are very good also. Then there are other books that are not certification books at all. Top-Down Network Design, for example, is not a certification book. For historical reasons (people at Cisco turned my earlier work into DCN and CCDA), it happens to be a good fit, which is nice, but not intentional. Cisco Press is not part of Cisco, by the way. But they are in bed together. Cisco makes money (a piddling amount, I would guess), on the classes that are ported to book format. For the other books, the piddling royalties go to the author. Cisco has the right to use the materials we wrote (I wish I hadn't signed that contract!:-) I have been shocked to discover whole paragraphs that I wrote in the Cisco Networking Academy materials for example, with no recognition. Regarding the actual question of Cisco Press versus Sybex: as others have said, it's a matter of style. Cisco Press requires an academic, detailed style. Humor is discouraged. Sybex is much more laid-back. If I were in a hurry to learn something, I might go with Sybex. It's a lot less words to wade through!? ;-) Priscilla >Whether it is spin or not the suggestion is that if you buy a Cisco Press >book you buy part of the family jewels. > >I can't see Cisco missing a profit if they have a hand in the publishing. >Surely Cisco Press is sanctioned by Cisco purely by reason of the name, >could you see them doing a second best for their own publishers. However >the books are quite high brow when compared to Sybex or Syngress. > >I suggest that if you have the cash that Syngress to Sybex, Sybex to Cisco >is about right as it covers a gentle learning curve. My tuppence worth. > >Karl >- Original Message - >From: "Howard C. Berkowitz" >To: >Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:23 PM >Subject: Re: Cisco Press Vs Sybex Which Way Forward ===> [7:13243] > > > > >"Oletu Hosea Godswill CCNP, CCNA." wrote, > > > > > >Todd Lammle would do us in the networking field a lot of good if he go >and > > >get > > >his CCNP. He can't be writing CCDA, CCNP and CCIE books gear towards the > > exam > > >proper, without passing through the examination process. Good, he might >be a > > >good writer and also might have some wealth of experience. But you would > > >agree > > >with me that, the exams are different scenerio from the day to day >hands-on > > >job and it is a different ball game from one having experience. Many who > > >boast > > >of tons of years of experience can go in for these exams and still fail >it. > > > > > >Let Todd Lammle at be patience and only write books for which he is > > >certified, > > >by this he will gain more popularity. I like his books for their >simpilicity > > >and easy of understanding, but what am against is that do not use that to > > >shield me from difficult and complex areas the exam would be bordered on. > > > > > > I disagree. I'm an inactive CCSI, under the "old school" > > certification rules. While I direct CertificationZone's content, I > > have no intention of getting further Cisco certifications. This is > > for a couple of reasons, and, without speaking for Todd, might very > > well be his reasons. > > > > Cisco's lawyers are extremely aggressive at pursuing what they > > consider even the appearance of NDA violations. I can't be accused > > of violating the confidentiality of a test I've never taken. > > > > Second, I take the viewpoint that I am preparing materials that first > > help the student understand the test content, and second deal with > > test mechanics. The world is full of examples of people that are > > extremely effective teachers of subjects that they either never > > practiced or no longer currently practice. I think you'll find that > > most sports coaches with a significant winning record were not Hall > > of Fame in their sports. Most protocol developers are not CCIEs. > > Some very good obstetricians are men. The best collegiate fencer I > > knew was at a time when women could not compete, so she became her > > team coach. > > > > I believe it's more important to have a thorough understanding of the > > principles of the test than the test mechanics. On this list and > > elsewhere, including open Cisco sources, there is a lot of material > > > > > > > >Am sorry, not against Todd Lammle in any sense, I appreciate his great > > >contributions to us the networking folks, am only trying to
Re: Ethernet Tutorial [7:13281]
I just looked at the HTML source and didn't see any reference to font whatsoever. So, I think the problem is at your end!? Priscilla At 06:57 PM 7/22/01, Tom Lisa wrote: >Priscilla, > >Just took a look at your new ethernet tutorial on certzone. I'm >impressed! However, have one small nit to pick. Couldn't you insist >that they use a MUCH larger font for us old geezers who don't see so >good any more? :) Maybe they need to have a Senior Citizen Zone. I >wonder if I could file an ADA lawsuit?!? :) > >Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI >Community College of Southern Nevada >Cisco Regional Networking Academy Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13293&t=13281 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - forbidden words [7:13271]
Chuck, I can't believe Paul let you be a moderator!! Talk about letting the fox guard the chicken coop. No wonder my insanely humorous and erudite posts haven't been getting through. :) Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI Community College of Southern Nevada Cisco Regional Networking Academy Chuck Larrieu wrote: Just a reminder to everyone. This is a study list, and as such certain activities have been deemed inappropriate by the list owner. One of those activities is the requesting of information about brain dump sites. Unfortunately, of late, there have been enough of these that have hit the moderators' queue that it merits an explanation. If you have been posting requests asking for brain dump sites, those posts are being deleted out of hand, along with the incessant posts requesting one be subscribed or unsubscribed to the list If you are requesting information about the relative merits of various study materials, your friendly moderator is a bit more flexible. best wishes Chuck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13282&t=13271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written change? When? [7:13267]
Produced The Specials... Two-Tone. ""Elvis Costello"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text] > Cisco's site notes when the Lab format will be changed, but I didn't notice > a date for the change (if any) to the written exam. > > Anyone have any ideas? Rumors? > > Thanks > > > > Hey you! Claim your FREE anonymous email account: > Click Here -> http://www.anonymous.to Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13294&t=13267 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco 2501 [7:13295]
Dear Group I must config systems include cisco 2511 , server NT setup Trustme 1.1 on database SQL7.0 and watchword II of racal pls show me how to config router to access the TrustMe server from remote user with Watchword II over the PSTN thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13295&t=13295 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Tutorial [7:13281]
Actually, I take that back. There's a style sheet that mentions fonts. It says the font is font-size:12px, which should be big enough. Regardless, the display of a Web page is under your control. There's numerous things you can do to change it, depending on the browser. One thing you can do is change View/Text Size to larger in Internet Explorer. Also, the resolution of your monitor affects the results. Web developers can't really control what you will see. I have kept my monitor at 800 x 600 for years due to old age. ;-) So I'm sure I don't see Web pages the same as anyone else. Priscilla At 09:36 PM 7/22/01, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: >I just looked at the HTML source and didn't see any reference to font >whatsoever. So, I think the problem is at your end!? > >Priscilla > >At 06:57 PM 7/22/01, Tom Lisa wrote: > >Priscilla, > > > >Just took a look at your new ethernet tutorial on certzone. I'm > >impressed! However, have one small nit to pick. Couldn't you insist > >that they use a MUCH larger font for us old geezers who don't see so > >good any more? :) Maybe they need to have a Senior Citizen Zone. I > >wonder if I could file an ADA lawsuit?!? :) > > > >Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI > >Community College of Southern Nevada > >Cisco Regional Networking Academy > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer >http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13296&t=13281 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Off Topic - forbidden words [7:13271]
Boy6872 wrote on July 22, 2001 at 10:47 PM: > Way to go, Chuck. > Keep the wankers in check and maintain the CCIE merit and validity! > Rob H. CCNP, CCDP, CCIE WR > WR - wassat then? WAN Routing? if it is "Written", as I suspect since I don't see a #, then the irony is obviously lost on you Andy Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13297&t=13271 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265]
It's the Lab mentality, Tone. You practice doing screwy things so you can pass the lab, and you become warped in the process, and begin to believe that doing screwy things is normal. as an intellectual exercise, I can think of no reason why BGP wouldn't work over GRE tunnels, but I sure as hell would not even in my worst Lab nightmare think about trying BGP through NAT. Not even the Lab proctors could be that sick ;-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Medeiros Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] I don't think you want to do that. If you have the bucks for 4 internet circuits, you should have the bucks for a firewall or another router behind your edge router to do the nat. I doubt that this will work. In fact, If you have any asymmetric routing going on at all (packets going out one interface and returning on a different one), It flat out won't work. I can foresee so many issues with this setup that I wouldn't even attempt it. I suppose that if you had just static mappings and tweaked the BGP just right it might work. But if you have a circuit failure and BGP rolls over to another interface, it will break the sessions. Load balancing will be a nightmare. So will peering. Maybe this could be done with loopbacks and policy routing on the inside interface pointing at the loopbacks for the next hop... I don't know. It sounds too ugly even to try. Maybe I'm wrong, Anybody else ever try this ??? My humble opinion.. Get a firewall or another router. Tony M. #6172 - Original Message - From: Justin Lofton To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:02 PM Subject: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > I'm trying to configure NAT on a router that is running BGP between 4 > internet circuits. Can't find anything on CCO. Which interface do I use as > ip nat outside? Just one or all four? I'm confused. Can anyone out there > help me with this one? > > Thanks Everyone! > > Justin Lofton > Account Executive/CCNA > Tredent Data Systems > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > V: (818) 222-3770 > F: (818) 222-3778 > http://www.tredent.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13298&t=13265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DCE definition [7:13291]
>All, > >I was reading thru the Sybex CCIE study guide this evening, when a came >across the term DCE in the context we are all familiar with( the end of a >connection that provides clocking) defined as "distributed computing >environment". Perhaps the authors should get themselves a new IT >encyclopedia, huh. Do Sybex books generally have many errors? I am >relatively unfamiliar with them as until now I have used Cisco Press books. > >Christopher Supino >CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA5, ASE >Senior System Engineer DCE stands for, among other things Data circuit-terminating equipment Distributed computing environment Dust control equipment Department of Correctional Education Division of Continuing Education I will grant that only the first and second are relevant to the CCIE level. But I'd be a little less certain that you (1) have defined DCE precisely (2) haven't excluded some significant upper layer protocols. Incidentally, Data Circuit Termination Equipment does not necessarily supply clock. It does only on synchronous interfaces. Asynchronous and isochronous DCE do not provide clock, although isochronous DCE may enforce implicit clocking. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13299&t=13291 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
Howard, stop my head is going to explode! Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805] >That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols. ;-] I know very few respected protocol or platform designers that ever mentioned having a CCIE. On the other hand, it only occasionally comes up that one has a PhD, which isn't always in a relevant discipline. I'm amused by the degree requirement--I could see an argument for a master's or doctorate, but the undergraduate computer science program gets into relatively little you need to know to design and implement protocols, other than as a coder. Personally, I'm a much better developer than I am a support person. There's overlap between the skills of product/protocol design and large network design, but much less with troubleshooting. Even quality testing is a somewhat different skill set than troubleshooting. For example, has anyone seen a Cisco exam that explored the differences among conformance, interoperability, and performance testing? The difference between a correct but boundary condition event, a syntactically incorrect event, and an inopportune event? > >They are looking for software engineers. They aren't going to find many >that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and requires a different type >of personality. > >Priscilla > >At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote: >>Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a place for job >>discussions, but I noticed that there have been several e-mails about how >>CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs. >> >>I received this e-mail (look at the message included after my signature) on >>another Cisco list I'm a member of: >> >>Hth, >> >>Ole >> >>~~~ >> Ole Drews Jensen >> Systems Network Manager >> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I >> RWR Enterprises, Inc. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>~~~ >> http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP >>~~~ >> NEED A JOB ??? >> http://www.oledrews.com/job >>~~~ >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 - >>From: "JDO" > >>Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE >> >>Hello, >> >>My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement firm in Dallas, >>Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that DEVELOPS routing >>protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS, and MPLS. The must >>be a software engineer and they must be degreed. >> >>If any of you could help me, please give me a call or shoot me an >>email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at >>972-991-7569. >> >>Just to take a look at someof our other positions please go to >> >> >>We also work with another agency that focuese more on IT, you can >>find their site at >> >>Thanks >> > >Johnna Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13301&t=12805 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
I knew I should have taken that Deploying DSPF session at networkers Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805] I want to deploy DSPF here at work. - Original Message - From: "Tony Medeiros" To: Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805] > I want to be a developer for DSPF > > What is that? > > Dumbest Shortest Path First ? > > > > > >My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement firm in Dallas, > > >Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that DEVELOPS routing > > >protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS, and MPLS. The must > > >be a software engineer and they must be degreed. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13300&t=12805 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
weird switch! can't config thru console [7:13302]
Hi. I tried to config a 2900 switches thru its console but it has no output at all on the hyperterminal screen. I am sure my setting is correct. (9600-N-1 none) as I can get output on other switches with the same setting. May I know what is wrong with the switch? Any method to solve this Tong == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13302&t=13302 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: peer to peer IPX [7:13246]
Configure File and Print Sharing for Novell Networks service and share some devices. Makes your win95 box act as a novell server. --- Farhan Ahmed wrote: > ofcourse u can its a protocol > > -Original Message- > From: Mr. Richard L. Pickard > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 5:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: peer to peer IPX [7:13246] > > > 7/22/2001 7:45am Sunday > > It is possible to run IPX between WIN 95 > workstations without a server on > the > segment? > > Richard > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > // [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13303&t=13246 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IBGP [7:13304]
I have 2 routers in my lab running IBGP, both of them list the other router as a neighbor. I have turned off synchronization on both routers, and the way I understood it, if this is off the router will automatically advertise anything that is in a network statement under router bgp. I can't seem to get them to advertise the networks to each other without putting in static routes. Am I misunderstanding something here? As soon as I put in routes for the networks I get the advertisements no problem, thanks for any help you can give. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13304&t=13304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265]
It would work and would be pretty simple. Just need to make sure that port 179 isn't getting translated, might need a static mapping, etc. Depends on whats going on and addressing. --- Chuck Larrieu wrote: > It's the Lab mentality, Tone. You practice doing > screwy things so you can > pass the lab, and you become warped in the process, > and begin to believe > that doing screwy things is normal. > > as an intellectual exercise, I can think of no > reason why BGP wouldn't work > over GRE tunnels, but I sure as hell would not even > in my worst Lab > nightmare think about trying BGP through NAT. Not > even the Lab proctors > could be that sick ;-> > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Tony Medeiros > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > > > I don't think you want to do that. If you have the > bucks for 4 internet > circuits, you should have the bucks for a firewall > or another router behind > your edge router to do the nat. I doubt that this > will work. In fact, If > you have any asymmetric routing going on at all > (packets going out one > interface and returning on a different one), It > flat out won't work. > > I can foresee so many issues with this setup that I > wouldn't even attempt > it. I suppose that if you had just static mappings > and tweaked the BGP just > right it might work. But if you have a circuit > failure and BGP rolls over > to another interface, it will break the sessions. > Load balancing will be a > nightmare. So will peering. Maybe this could be > done with loopbacks and > policy routing on the inside interface pointing at > the loopbacks for the > next hop... I don't know. It sounds too ugly even > to try. Maybe I'm > wrong, Anybody else ever try this ??? > > My humble opinion.. Get a firewall or another > router. > > Tony M. > #6172 > > - Original Message - > From: Justin Lofton > To: > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:02 PM > Subject: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > > > > I'm trying to configure NAT on a router that is > running BGP between 4 > > internet circuits. Can't find anything on CCO. > Which interface do I use > as > > ip nat outside? Just one or all four? I'm > confused. Can anyone out there > > help me with this one? > > > > Thanks Everyone! > > > > Justin Lofton > > Account Executive/CCNA > > Tredent Data Systems > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > V: (818) 222-3770 > > F: (818) 222-3778 > > http://www.tredent.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13305&t=13265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: routing issue with ISDN backup [7:13045]
thanks everybody. i am planning on using redistribute command on central router. however I cannot yet test this as i am still wiating for FR circuits to come up. thank u all, pat. --- Farhan Ahmed wrote: > use redistribute command.. > > > -Original Message- > From: pat [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 6:51 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: routing issue with ISDN backup [7:13045] > > > Hello everyone: > > > I have some routing issue here. > > I have central office with a core router sitting > behind the PIX. All branch office (remote) routers > connect to central router using frame relay & ISDN > as > back up. Each branch office (having 1 Serial, 1 > ISDN, > 1 Eth Int) should be able get to any other branch > office & to Internet through PIX. All IPs used will > be > private & PIX will be doing NAT. > I am planning on having EIGRP to route between > all > routers over frame relay & floating static route to > trigger ISDN if FR goes down. This floating static > route will be something like > > ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.0.0.1 200 (10.0.0.1 > will > be IP of central router) > > In each branch office router EIGRP will have > Ethernet > & serial networks in it. This will make all internal > routing fine when the network is on FR. But how do I > route Internet traffic to core router so that it can > send to PIX? I am already using default static route > to core router, which I want to be used only when FR > is down. Is there any way in EIGRP to propagate > default route through network from core router? > > > Thanks a lot, > pat > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13306&t=13045 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
practice lab site [7:13307]
Someone I know has just setup http://www.ciscopracticelab.com/. Take a look, inexpensive lab sites are tough to come by. Brian Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13307&t=13307 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805]
Howard and Chuck are both in rare form this evening! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim Medley Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 10:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805] Howard, stop my head is going to explode! Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice Network Architect VoIP Group iReadyWorld -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Howard C. Berkowitz Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2001 4:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: To CCIE's without a job [7:12805] >That's a scary thought: CCIEs who develop protocols. ;-] I know very few respected protocol or platform designers that ever mentioned having a CCIE. On the other hand, it only occasionally comes up that one has a PhD, which isn't always in a relevant discipline. I'm amused by the degree requirement--I could see an argument for a master's or doctorate, but the undergraduate computer science program gets into relatively little you need to know to design and implement protocols, other than as a coder. Personally, I'm a much better developer than I am a support person. There's overlap between the skills of product/protocol design and large network design, but much less with troubleshooting. Even quality testing is a somewhat different skill set than troubleshooting. For example, has anyone seen a Cisco exam that explored the differences among conformance, interoperability, and performance testing? The difference between a correct but boundary condition event, a syntactically incorrect event, and an inopportune event? > >They are looking for software engineers. They aren't going to find many >that have a CCIE? It's a different skill set and requires a different type >of personality. > >Priscilla > >At 09:41 AM 7/18/01, Ole Drews Jensen wrote: >>Forgive me for sending this here, I know there's a place for job >>discussions, but I noticed that there have been several e-mails about how >>CCIE's now have a harder time getting jobs. >> >>I received this e-mail (look at the message included after my signature) on >>another Cisco list I'm a member of: >> >>Hth, >> >>Ole >> >>~~~ >> Ole Drews Jensen >> Systems Network Manager >> CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I >> RWR Enterprises, Inc. >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>~~~ >> http://www.OleDrews.com/CCNP >>~~~ >> NEED A JOB ??? >> http://www.oledrews.com/job >>~~~ >> >>Message: 1 >>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:11:26 - >>From: "JDO" > >>Subject: Looking for a Special Kind of CCIE >> >>Hello, >> >>My name is Johnna Smith and I work for a placement firm in Dallas, >>Texas. I am in desperate need of a CCIE that DEVELOPS routing >>protocols. I need them to have BGP, DSPF, IS-IS, and MPLS. The must >>be a software engineer and they must be degreed. >> >>If any of you could help me, please give me a call or shoot me an >>email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] or at >>972-991-7569. >> >>Just to take a look at someof our other positions please go to >> >> >>We also work with another agency that focuese more on IT, you can >>find their site at >> >>Thanks >> > >Johnna Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13308&t=12805 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: OT: Re: tftp server! [7:13203]
Jason, which Linux Distro are you running? I'm experincing the same problem described by Sean, and although it could be categorized as a minor inconvenience that the filename has to exist prior to uploading them to the tftp server, it's an inconvenience I would really like get make go away! Stefan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13309&t=13203 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IBGP [7:13304]
This issue has nothing to do with the synchronization rule. If you had a third router that could inject some external routes (and hence run external BGP) then these two routers would pass routes to each other. With the network statement you are specifically attempting to originate those routes. In that case, the originating router must have an IGP route to the prefix before it will originate the route. Once you add the static route, this fulfills the requirement and your prefixes are advertised. HTH (and I hope it's correct ), John | I have 2 routers in my lab running IBGP, both of them list the other router | as a neighbor. I have turned off synchronization on both routers, and the | way I understood it, if this is off the router will automatically advertise | anything that is in a network statement under router bgp. I can't seem to | get them to advertise the networks to each other without putting in static | routes. Am I misunderstanding something here? As soon as I put in routes | for the networks I get the advertisements no problem, thanks for any help | you can give. | | | | ___ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13310&t=13304 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265]
Yeah, you could get simple peering to work. But think about it, 4 uplinks. . If you buy 4 links you usually want to utilize them right ?? Utilizing 4 links would be anything but simple. Even if you set it up to use just one link at a time with failover. When it failed, All sessions would be lost due to NAT state.Even though it will take BGP a little while to converge depending on who and where you are peering. It's still piss poor design. All the different load balancing scenarios that I can think of would require some really weird stuff. Most just won't work because of the statefullness of NAT. The ones I can think of that will work would require 4 routable IP blocks living on loopback interfaces. It's anything but simple !! It's kinda fun to think "out of the bubble" on stuff like this. But, as Chuck mentioned, I think the bubble bursts on this one !! :) If anybody knows a simple way to utilize 4 links with this setup I sure would love to see it. It would be pretty cool !! Tony M. #6172 - Original Message - From: Erick B. To: Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 8:24 PM Subject: RE: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > It would work and would be pretty simple. Just need to > make sure that port 179 isn't getting translated, > might need a static mapping, etc. Depends on whats > going on and addressing. > > --- Chuck Larrieu wrote: > > It's the Lab mentality, Tone. You practice doing > > screwy things so you can > > pass the lab, and you become warped in the process, > > and begin to believe > > that doing screwy things is normal. > > > > as an intellectual exercise, I can think of no > > reason why BGP wouldn't work > > over GRE tunnels, but I sure as hell would not even > > in my worst Lab > > nightmare think about trying BGP through NAT. Not > > even the Lab proctors > > could be that sick ;-> > > > > Chuck > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Tony Medeiros > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 2:35 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > > > > > > I don't think you want to do that. If you have the > > bucks for 4 internet > > circuits, you should have the bucks for a firewall > > or another router behind > > your edge router to do the nat. I doubt that this > > will work. In fact, If > > you have any asymmetric routing going on at all > > (packets going out one > > interface and returning on a different one), It > > flat out won't work. > > > > I can foresee so many issues with this setup that I > > wouldn't even attempt > > it. I suppose that if you had just static mappings > > and tweaked the BGP just > > right it might work. But if you have a circuit > > failure and BGP rolls over > > to another interface, it will break the sessions. > > Load balancing will be a > > nightmare. So will peering. Maybe this could be > > done with loopbacks and > > policy routing on the inside interface pointing at > > the loopbacks for the > > next hop... I don't know. It sounds too ugly even > > to try. Maybe I'm > > wrong, Anybody else ever try this ??? > > > > My humble opinion.. Get a firewall or another > > router. > > > > Tony M. > > #6172 > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Justin Lofton > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2001 1:02 PM > > Subject: Configure Nat with BGP [7:13265] > > > > > > > I'm trying to configure NAT on a router that is > > running BGP between 4 > > > internet circuits. Can't find anything on CCO. > > Which interface do I use > > as > > > ip nat outside? Just one or all four? I'm > > confused. Can anyone out there > > > help me with this one? > > > > > > Thanks Everyone! > > > > > > Justin Lofton > > > Account Executive/CCNA > > > Tredent Data Systems > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > V: (818) 222-3770 > > > F: (818) 222-3778 > > > http://www.tredent.com/ > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13311&t=13265 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
TFTP 16MB filesize limit (6500 Hybrid->NativeIOS conversion) [7:13312]
Hey. Just ran across this the other day. Tried to convert a 6500 (using dual Sup2-MSFC2-PFC2) from Hybrid OS to the newest version 12.1(8)E of the Supervisor (Native) IOS the image is larger than 16MB. Imagine my frustration as over and over I attempted to copy via TFTP and it would get 95% or so finished then throw up a read error and quit. I tried multiple TFTP servers, then realized what I bonehead I'd been when I was looking at the IOS download page and it's got a warning about files over 16MB with TFTP. Upon investigation, Cisco has a page that talks about the 16MB limit in all IOS TFTP facilites as well as most *nix TFTP server softwares. Strangely enough, tho, it doesn't mention the CatOS (which appears to have that same limitation like the IOS). They have a "fix" for the IOS "bug", but not the CatOS, so I was kinda stuck. I tried to setup an RCP server on a Solaris box to copy the file but ran into authentication issues that were not normal, and the only other option Cisco mentions is using FTP, which isn't available from the CatOS (Hybrid) (couldn't use the IOS on the MSFC to FTP the image because it needed to be in bootflash on the Sup and MSFC only saw it's own bootflash). Anyhoo the answer was to get the next oldest version of the Native IOS 12.1(5)C, which is under 16MB, perform the conversion to Native IOS, then at that point, use the FTP functions in the Native IOS to download and upgrade to the newest version IOS. Geez Another problem I happened into was that we only had 16MB bootflash on MSFC (bootflash:) and 16MB PCMCIA (slot0:) memory, so running 12.1(5)C in sup-bootflash: took up almost 16MB and to download the newest IOS I had to wipe 12.1(5)C from sup-bootflash, then download the newest one (because they both wouldn't fit in 32MB sup-bootflash) scary, but it worked! Just kinda FYI.. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13312&t=13312 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCMSN and TokenRing [7:13313]
Hi, Can someone tell me if there are any TokenRing questions on the BCMSN exam? I haven't seen TR among exam objectives on cisco cert site, but the topic is covered in cisco press switching book, so I'm a little confused. I must say that I haven't never seen a TR network. What should I do now, learn this topic anyway or maybe it's not necessary for the BCMSN exam? Thanks, Cezar Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13313&t=13313 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN and TokenRing [7:13313]
Hi Cezar, There was no TR question on the exam when i took it last week. Dont spend a lot of time on tht. Do Vlans, STP, Multicasting, MLS very well. I was also asked a few design questions. So know the capabilities of 4xxx, 5xxx, 6xxx and 8xxx platforms. This was something tht tripped me a bit. Good luck. Imran. --- Cezar Fistik wrote: > Hi, > > Can someone tell me if there are any TokenRing > questions on the BCMSN exam? > I haven't seen TR among exam objectives on cisco > cert site, but the topic is > covered in cisco press switching book, so I'm a > little confused. I must say > that I haven't never seen a TR network. What should > I do now, learn this > topic anyway or maybe it's not necessary for the > BCMSN exam? > > Thanks, > > Cezar [EMAIL PROTECTED] = Imran Moin Network Engineer CCNA __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13314&t=13313 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco and Microsoft Books for sale (Box Sets)!!!!! [7:13315]
Hello, I have the following books for sale should anyone want to buy them: 1) Designing Wide area networks. (This book is absolutely awesome, I've read it continuously at my job, if you have a say in the design of networks or are just getting started with networking, this is the book to have. It jumbles to together all the facts of building a reliable network from servers, to firewalls, to routers, to switches, to telco lines, to the competitive nature of lecs, clecs, and ilecs, etcc... Excellent way to learn how all networks, including the internet tie together and how they have come to be and the details of each. I'm selling it for $50.00 2) Windows 2000 Skills update (This box set includes all the books you will need to prepare for the accelerated upgrade MCSE exam. This box set was put out by Wave Technologies) I'm selling it for $100.00 5) Internetworking Technologies Handbook (2nd Edition) by Cisco Press. If you need a book which describes all Cisco Networking topics in detail this is the reference to have. I'm selling it for $30.00 6)Windows 2000 Server Study Guide by Sybex. I'm selling it for $30.00 If you are interested in any of these books please send me an e-mail with which book you would like and I can ship that out to you. I accept payment via Paypal, so all you need is a credit card and the deal is done. You might wonder why I'm selling all of these books, well its because I'm thinking about a career change. I've sold off a portion of the rest of my books, so now is your chance to get some great books at very low prices, shop and compare if you find it lower I'll mark mine down. Please contact me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you are interested. Thanks to all at this group study, it is an awesome place to be. Sincerely, JC Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13315&t=13315 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RSM Problems [7:13022]
Hi all, Is there anyone who already attend the Foundation exam, to reach the CCNP? Please share to me your knowledge/experience regarding that exam. I want to register for Foundation exam next month. Regards, Dandi Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13316&t=13022 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cabling info needed [7:13317]
Hi all, Where can I find good cabling info related to LAN networking and the cisco switches in particular. Thanks Omer Ehsan dar Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13317&t=13317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cabling info needed [7:13317]
cisco.com/go/tools -Original Message- From: Omer Ehsan Dar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cabling info needed [7:13317] Hi all, Where can I find good cabling info related to LAN networking and the cisco switches in particular. Thanks Omer Ehsan dar Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13318&t=13317 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
