long wait for TELNET sessions [7:20097]

2001-09-16 Thread Frank Ofus

Please advise me on the below:

PC1-PIX--Router--RouterPIXPC2
PC1 = nt-box
PC2 = unix box
framerelay is connected between the two routers
PIX codes are 5.2(6)

My problem is that when I initiate a telnet session to
PC2(unix box), the tcp session establishes right away.
 But I have to wait for about 30-60 seconds to see the
login screen.  

What is the potential problem in this?  Is it on the
pix or on the router?  Thanks for any help.
Please reply directly to me.

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Re: long wait for TELNET sessions [7:20097]

2001-09-16 Thread Brian

wreaks of a reverse dns problem..

Brian

- Original Message -
From: Frank Ofus 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 12:07 AM
Subject: long wait for TELNET sessions [7:20097]


 Please advise me on the below:

 PC1-PIX--Router--RouterPIXPC2
 PC1 = nt-box
 PC2 = unix box
 framerelay is connected between the two routers
 PIX codes are 5.2(6)

 My problem is that when I initiate a telnet session to
 PC2(unix box), the tcp session establishes right away.
  But I have to wait for about 30-60 seconds to see the
 login screen.

 What is the potential problem in this?  Is it on the
 pix or on the router?  Thanks for any help.
 Please reply directly to me.

 -fRANK



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MPLS and RFC 2547 (MPLS VPN's) - opinions? [7:20101]

2001-09-16 Thread nrf

Hello all:

I would like to hear some thoughts on people's opinions on MPLS in general
and on RFC 2547-style VPN's in particular.   Are providers and (very) large
enterprises going to embrace these techniques for their purported
advantages, or does it represent too much change for too little benefit?

On an off-topic note, I too pray that true justice will be served to those
who are responsible for the acts of Sept. 11.




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Re: Bridging [7:20078]

2001-09-16 Thread EA Louie

 Sure but I'm at a loss to understand what good it would do.

If the 2511 was the hub of a hub and spoke WAN, and there was an application
between the other two sites that required bridging, that's what good it
would do.


   Dave

 Lupi, Guy wrote:

  Can you configure bridging using only serial interfaces, no ethernet
  involved at all?  I have a 2501 connected to a 2511, and a 2503
connected
 to
  the same 2511, both via serial.  I want to configure the 2 serial
 interfaces
  on the 2511 to bridge between them, is that possible?  There is no
 practical
  reason for this, just setting it up in the lab and I am curious.
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Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]

2001-09-16 Thread EA Louie

Agreed (I think).  Remove the 2nd flash and post a show ver.

- Original Message -
From: MADMAN 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:24 PM
Subject: Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]


 It's most likely you have old boot roms that are not able to recognize the
 16M of
 memory.

   Dave

 Albert Y. Pak wrote:

  Hi All,
  I am able to boot Cisco 2502 with 1 x 8MB flash. However, as soon as I
  install a second 8MB flash (empty), the router hangs at System Bootstrap
  (Version 11.0(10c)XB1).  +  doesn't work either. These 2 8MB flash
  are identical.
  Please advise,
  Albert
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Off topic: An Afghan-American speaks [7:20104]

2001-09-16 Thread Curtis Phillips

I thougt this might be of some interest to those interested in
the situation in Afghanistan..I think it starts to reflect upon some of the
complications involved in our deliberations and actions.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2001/09/14/afghanistan/index.html




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RE: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]

2001-09-16 Thread Dan Faulk

Why Robert you have such a low opinion of a person you don't even know,
trust me I'm much more pig-headed in real life. My response is in your inbox
at work. Yes I did study the page you posted and now everything has become
clear. But you really must have pity on me you see. I was so uneducated as
to your purposes now I see that without your insight, calm humility,
fairness, and understanding I would forever been awash in a sea of Cisco
rah-rah happily sipping my kool-aid and toasting the gods in ignorance. Now
I see the light and have been saved! Once I thought that not a single
interface failure on any of my routers was a good thing, but now I see it's
only Cisco obsolescence. One I thought a huge market share was a great
thing, now I know its only the death rattle for Cisco. One I thought
understanding IOS was cool, now I know its unnecessary and obsolete. Thanks
Robert for your time and patience, would it be ok if I started a fan club?

Nortel forever,
Dan Once an idiot but no more Faulk
President of the We like Nortel and think Robert is just wonderful Fan Club

PS May I wash your car?

End of self-serving message


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Robert Hanley
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 10:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]


Chuck  group;

So, all this is understood about certs  why, etc...; and anyone who has
participated in this list for any length of time has seen the same ground
covered as Chuck covered below. I've been following this list and
participating as time permitted since about June 1999. So I know the deal.

I will continue to seek Cisco certifications for two primary reasons:

1. I may need those credentials if I find myself back out in the larger job
market in the future. Especially as a consultant called on both to evaluate
existing networks and propose changes or upgrades be they piecemeal or
forklifted, but also to write, respond to and review responses to RFPs 
RFIs. All this with a view toward providing my client with an end result
that best meets their needs. Regardless of what the vendors are pushing.

2. It enhances my credibility in my current role as a Nortel SE with
customers when I need to critique Cisco's designs and or proposals, and my
ability to understand what they may propose, and why.

So there is more to this than knowing commands, though that may be critical
if one wants to stay strictly hands on. There is much more to this
business, however; and I think studying the merits and weaknesses of
different vendors' gear helps to round us all out, and to provide solutions
to problems. Not just the Cisco way, or the Nortel way, or any one vendor's
way. But the way that provides the greatest value to our clients and
corporations.

If we work for Cisco, or Nortel, or any vendor; it gives us an opportunity
to understand our strengths and weaknesses and to provide feedback to the
people who develop products to make them better.

There is always room on this list for people who want to know how to solve a
work related problem, or to express political opinions as has been done this
past week. I think if people don't want to engage in this type of discussion
they should use the Delete Key, not the this is a Cisco List crutch;
thereby discouraging honest and constructive dialog. If you don't like it
don't participate, but don't keep other people from learning something.

There have also been occasions when people have asked for help interfacing
Nortel and Cisco gear when I have been happy to help and will certainly
continue to do so. No matter how misunderstood the gear or my intentions may
be.

But again, the only reason I gave the URL for the Nortel cert, was because
Dan Faulk asked for it. Not that he expected there was any possible answer
of any merit, or that he took a look. But maybe someone else did, and maybe
it will help them to advance their career.

Learning is the progressive discovery of our own ignorance.

That doesn't mean we want to find out how ignorant we are.

But it may mean that we need to.



Go in peace...and keep your head down.


Chuck Larrieu wrote in message ...
If I may offer, when one reads the title of the certification most of us
have or seek we should remember that it is Cisco certified. the emphasis is
on Cisco. The whole purpose of vendor certification is to provide the
vendor
with a large number of people familiar with their product. this gives
potential customers more reason to commit to the vendor in question,
knowing
they can easily find qualified people to service the equipment in question.

Novell certifications served to show clients that if they committed to
Netware, they would be able to hire people qualified to work on Netware
networks. Microsoft certifications served to show customers the same thing.
Sun has had a Solaris / UNIX certification program for years. These days
one
can attain any number of vendor 

Re: MTU Question [7:20096]

2001-09-16 Thread EA Louie

 I am a little confused about how the MTU size
 configured on an interface affects the transmission of
 packets through that interface. My question is does it
 affects packets received on the interface or packets
 transmitted out of the interface?

Great question.  It definitely affects packets transmitted OUT of the
interface - if the packet is larger than the interface ip mtu, the router
fragments the packet using the configured interface MTU value.  A
demonstration of this is in GRE tunnel applications, which are by default
1478 bytes (as opposed to 1500), so that a 1500 byte packet gets fragmented
when traversing the tunnel.

On an INBOUND packet, the MTU is ignored.

Just to verify this, I ran a bunch of debugs that show outbound
fragmentation, but inbound the packets are not fragmented, just forwarded to
the next interface.



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Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]

2001-09-16 Thread Circusnuts

Na- the ROM's he has listed here are 11.0 (10c).  They're the newest
available.  I still think he trying to use 2600/3600/4000 FLASH.

Phil

- Original Message -
From: EA Louie 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]


 Agreed (I think).  Remove the 2nd flash and post a show ver.

 - Original Message -
 From: MADMAN
 To:
 Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:24 PM
 Subject: Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]


  It's most likely you have old boot roms that are not able to recognize
the
  16M of
  memory.
 
Dave
 
  Albert Y. Pak wrote:
 
   Hi All,
   I am able to boot Cisco 2502 with 1 x 8MB flash. However, as soon as I
   install a second 8MB flash (empty), the router hangs at System
Bootstrap
   (Version 11.0(10c)XB1).  +  doesn't work either. These 2 8MB flash
   are identical.
   Please advise,
   Albert
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Re: MTU Question [7:20096]

2001-09-16 Thread Circusnuts

I believe the correct way to answer this question is, the MTU effects any
interface to interface communication where a TCP handshake takes place.
That would mean incoming or outgoing.  The window of information must match
what I expect to receive.

Have I come close ???
Phil

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From: Lists Wizard 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:19 AM
Subject: MTU Question [7:20096]


 Hi Groups,

 I am a little confused about how the MTU size
 configured on an interface affects the transmission of
 packets through that interface. My question is does it
 affects packets received on the interface or packets
 transmitted out of the interface?


 Thanks

 Lw

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Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]

2001-09-16 Thread EA Louie

ahhh, I didn't notice that until you pointed it out.  thanks

-e-

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From: Circusnuts 
To: EA Louie ; 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 5:35 AM
Subject: Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]


 Na- the ROM's he has listed here are 11.0 (10c).  They're the newest
 available.  I still think he trying to use 2600/3600/4000 FLASH.

 Phil

 - Original Message -
 From: EA Louie 
 To: 
 Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 6:59 AM
 Subject: Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]


  Agreed (I think).  Remove the 2nd flash and post a show ver.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: MADMAN
  To:
  Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:24 PM
  Subject: Re: Install 2 8MB flash on Cisco 2502 [7:20043]
 
 
   It's most likely you have old boot roms that are not able to recognize
 the
   16M of
   memory.
  
 Dave
  
   Albert Y. Pak wrote:
  
Hi All,
I am able to boot Cisco 2502 with 1 x 8MB flash. However, as soon as
I
install a second 8MB flash (empty), the router hangs at System
 Bootstrap
(Version 11.0(10c)XB1).  +  doesn't work either. These 2 8MB flash
are identical.
Please advise,
Albert
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Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...........!!! [7:19933]

2001-09-16 Thread EA Louie

Awww, that's funny!  (I don't know which new features I need, but if you
don't know 12.0, you can't tell me which features I need, so let's call it a
washsee ya later, Mr. 'Old Tech 11.2')  Adding to that, instead of just
upgrading the routers that NEED the new features (for me, usually at the
access level because of the advances in bandwidth grooming features), some
shops (understandably) want uniform levels of code, which I find a bit
overrated.  Consistency in sections and versions...yes.  Consistency to weed
out  major bugs and broken code?  definitely.  Consistency for consistency's
sake?  Well...ummm...errr...ahhhjust document it really well and upgrade
if/when you find the need.

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Larrieu 
To: EA Louie ; 
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]


 This is an interesting point, and one worth discussing a bit further.

 I can still recall an interview during the course of which the interviewer
 questioned my qualification in part because my experience was with IOS
11.2.
 He stated that they used IOS 12.0 ( newly released at the time. ) I asked
 why, and he said because we need the new features I had the temerity to
 ask which ones. There was no answer. The interview went down hill from
 there.

 Some folks are upgrade freaks. My own opinion is that in a heavy duty
 production environment the only reason should upgrade is if the upgrade
 fixes an identifiable problem. These days, the latest IOS is not
necessarily
 the best IOS.

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 EA Louie
 Sent: Friday, September 14, 2001 2:22 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: FW: Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]


  ya know, I am a fan of if it ain't broke, don't fix it, but dudeDo
you

 Me too.  and if I never have to mess with the routers because they're
doing
 their job, then why upgrade or futz with them, especially a core router?
I
 love to tinker just like everyone else, but the great thing about a
 production network is that if everything IS running, then I can let it be
 and work on some of the other stuff that's important (like my lab studies
 ;-)  If I don't need no new features, then I don't upgrade until I do.

 I once had a boss who had to have THE LATEST version of code on our
network
 and would make us schedule IOS upgrades regularly, even when we complained
 that there was no value-add to the upgrade.  I guess that's the OTHER
 extreme...and then we'd have a relatively short amount of time to
configure
 the 'new features' of the code into our network (I really learned to hate
 frame-relay traffic shaping).

  never want the fixes and features of newer code?  Just curious...
 Especialy
  with Cisco NAT in it's infant stages...
 
  -Patrick



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Re: DIAL Backup of Wireless VLAN [7:20058]

2001-09-16 Thread Khurrum Shahzad

To which net I configure as my interesting packet because both net of my
remote site LAN is also on sub interfaces of my Central site Fast Ethernet
Interface. I can't define route to a net which is also on my directly
connected interface.




Don't look for an interface going down, instead configure a floating
default
route as your interesting packet.
  Dave

Khurrum Shahzad wrote:

  Hi all
  I want help regarding my scenario which is as follows.
  I have one central and tow remote sites. Both two  remote sites are
connected
  with central through Wireless Ethernet Bridge (high speed).
  At Central site Ethernet cable from both Wireless Bridge are connected to
  switch and  Cisco 2620 is used for routing between 3 different VLAN ( two
for
  remote and one for central).
  So at central site I have 3 sub interface on Fast Ethernet each having IP
  address of separate net.

  I also require Sync Dial Backup for each  remote site. So I placed one 1601
  and Sync dialup modem on each remote site and  dialup modems at central
  connected with sync port of 2620.

  But I can't understand how to configure online (automatic) backup because
if
  any of wireless link will break or down, Ethernet ports  will not down and
  dialer will not initiate.

  Also for manual backup, if I manually dial to central site from any remote
  site then after connected to central, I have same IP net on both site of
  link,
  it means Ethernet port of 1601 and fast Ethernet port of 2620 have Ethernet
  IP
  from same net.

  Can anybody guide me how I run my main links on Wireless Ethernet Bridge
and
  backup link on dialup with routers?

  Network diagram of my setup is at

  http://www.geocities.com/khurrums/

  Regards
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PIX and EXCHANGE [7:20098]

2001-09-16 Thread Pierre-Alex

Thank you Ryan, it does make sense!

Sorry for the late reply, I was down for 3 days for upgrade.

(All my servers are now BEHIND the firewall!). I still have 1 issue however.


My Exchange server was receiving mail but could not send any.

I finally decided to create a static mapping for the mail server

and created two conduits to let all tcp and udp traffic go through!

I would like to tighten the security (without causing much down time).

Anyone out there who has a MS Exchange 2000 Server and done this before?

 ...

Pierre-Alex



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From: Ryan Lecomte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:31 PM
To: pierreg
Subject: RE: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate --FIXED [7:19536]


Pierre-Alex,

The global address is used for computers on the inside network to access
the outside. All of the computers on the inside will look like they are
originating from this address.

With version 6.0 you can use the outside address, not the global address
for static mappings but only for a single port to an address. Here's
more detail:

You can translate 10.1.1.13 on the inside to 102.162.86.53 port 80 on
the outside interface
You can translate 10.1.1.14 on the inside to 102.162.86.53 port 25 on
the outside interface
You can translate 10.1.1.15 on the inside to 102.162.86.53 port 53 on
the outside interface

You can't translate 10.1.1.13 and 10.1.1.14 to 102.162.86.53 and both
use port 80. Does that make sense?

You're right, before v6.0 the outside address was not useful.


Ryan

-Original Message-
From: pierreg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate --FIXED [7:19536]


Thank you, I chose 102.162.86.54 and that did the trick.

Please help me understand the following two points:

1) What rational for not being able to use the same IP address for the
static mapping and the global translation IP address?

2) Can I use the IP address (outside) of the firewall to do static
mapping?
If not then:

3) What is the purpose of the outside IP address? Looks kind of a waste
to
me!

Thanks again

Pierre-Alex



--

Hello,


Try This...

static (inside,outside) 102.162.86.xxx 10.1.1.13 netmask 255.255.255.255
conduit permit tcp host 102.162.86.xxx eq 80 any

You can't use the same address as your global translation 102.162.86.52
try 102.162.86.54


The first line creates the translation and the second line permits any
host to access your server on port 80.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Ryan

-Original Message-
From: pierreg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate [7:19512]


Hi all,

I have a Web server on the internal side of the firewall (10.1.1.13)
I am trying to open port 80 of the firewall to internet traffic
I get the error message: Cannot locate the static xlate
when I enter the command:

pixfirewall(config)# conduit 102.162.86.52 80 tcp 0

What am I doing wrong? My configs are below:

PIX Version 4.0.7
enable password 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
passwd 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
hostname pixfirewall
no failover
names
syslog output 20.3
no syslog console
interface ethernet outside 10baset
interface ethernet inside 10baset
ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
ip address outside 102.162.86.53 255.255.255.128
arp timeout 14400
global 1 102.162.86.52-102.162.86.52
nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
age 10
no rip outside passive
no rip outside default
no rip inside passive
no rip inside default
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 102.162.86.1 1
timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
http 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
telnet 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500




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Re: TIME TO STOP RE: 'It's not the US they want to destroy. [7:20111]

2001-09-16 Thread Magdy H. Ibrahim

Hi Paul and All,

I think we have to stop this thread before we convert this List to an other
thing not related to our feild..

By the way Karl,
I disagree with all attackers and there actions especially the Tuesday
Attacks...
As muslim man I realised that you have not any knowledge about what you told
this list about islam
So, it's not fair to say that holy war against Islam amd muslims
About the attack... Do you remember the 2 nuclear bombs in the second War?..
The Tuesday attacks excuted by individuals may they are muslims...
but they still individuals not all muslims did that...
but the two bombs on Japan excuted by the government of USA
I mean if we considered these individuals terrorists then we can consider
the USA as terrorist country because of the 2 bombs on Jaban in the second
war...
Please do not forget the USA crimes in Veitnam and 3rd world countries, and
do not forget what the Israeli army did with supporting of the USA with teh
palestinian peoples...
I think you need to study the history with carefully reading to know some
thing good about Islam and then talk about it...

Again I do not agree with any attack against any one on the earth but you
have to be fair when you talk about the others..

Is that clear MR. Karl??? I doubt

Regards for the list

Magdy




Dear Apologist for Genocide

I am perfectly entitled to my opinion and I would simply point out that in
most of the so called Muslim countries I have been to and seen, intolerance
is a watchword for daily life.

The usual one party states or army states with a poor and ill educated
population mostly led by men who profess their religion and humility before
some god and profit greatly from the poor and the disenfranchised.

Women are subjugated and mere breeders, young men used as cannon fodder in
some so called holy war which turns out to have more in common with a wallet
than a valuation of human life.

How dare you complain about insults to a so called religion who's members
excuse their crimes through some so called god and lies.  What am I to
expect nowa Fatwah of death (a.k.a. Salman Rushdh) because I have a
contary opinion.  You intolerance to the insults of your so called
religion are quite simply unbelievable.

I have fought terrorists and been injured as a result, they (the terrorists)
always excuse themselves through religion when really criminal behaviour and
greed is what they wish to hide.  It does not matter whether it is the great
sky god of the Roman Catholic faith and the scum of the IRA or the immature
rantings of the most recent hate filled Mullah.  There is the EVIL.

I strongly suggest that those who are apologists for murder and cannot
tolerate democracy would be very wise at this juncture to hold their
tongues.  I can understand why you would not wish this thread to continue as
it might draw attention away from the criminal activities of this so called
murderous cult.  I know much of Islam and know down through history how the
concept of Holy War is abused by men time and time again!  It is a religion
that has not come out of the middle ages and should have been left there.

I have the deepest shock at what I have seen and understand clearly how
powerless America was at that instant.  There was no mercy and the name of
Allah was invoked...that was evil and until the Muslim world
categorically removes itself from that evil and hands up its
criminals/terrorists then at least I and I think many others will judge it
to be evil.  I'm sorry if some faint hearts found this upsettingthe poor
dears..at least they are alive!

Karl




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Undefined Port Adapter type 55 at bay 1 [7:20112]

2001-09-16 Thread Mr. Oletu Hosea Godswill, CCNA

Hi, 

I have a 2621 router with 8M flash and 32M Ram. I
inserted a network module with 1 ethernet port into
it, the IOS 12.0 did not recognize it. It only sees
the FastEthernet ports that came with the router.
Upgrading the memory to 64M did not help issues,
Changing the module with two other onces did not help
the situation.

However, the IOS keep saying that the Adapter ports
are undefined.

Looking forward to your response.

Regards.
Oletu

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flash problem [7:20113]

2001-09-16 Thread Gil Shulman

Hi all,

I am having some trouble with the installation of a new flash card.
For some reason it marks the flash as Device not programmable, the write
protected switch is o.k.
I tried to repartition the flash with no luck.
I am adding information from the Router, this is the third flash that I am
replacing ( Is it possible that bootstrap version is not up to date enough ?
).

Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software 
IOS (tm) 1600 Software (C1600-BOOT-R), Version 11.1(10)AA, EARLY DEPLOYMENT
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1) 
Copyright (c) 1986-1997 by cisco Systems, Inc.
Compiled Tue 18-Mar-97 14:01 by ccai
Image text-base: 0x04018060, data-base: 0x02005000

ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(10)AA, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE SOFTWARE
(fc1)

Router uptime is 2 minutes
System restarted by power-on
System image file is eprom:c1600-boot-r.111-10.AA, booted via ROM

cisco 1601 (68360) processor (revision C) with 3584K/512K bytes of memory.
Processor board ID 06037967
X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface.
1 Serial(sync/async) network interface.
System/IO memory with parity enabled (On Board Memory disabled)
8K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
8192K bytes of  PCMCIA flash (Device not programmable)

Configuration register is 0x2102




PCMCIA flash directory:
No files in PCMCIA flash
[0 bytes used, 8388608 available, 8388608 total]
8192K bytes of  PCMCIA flash (Device not programmable)

   ChipBankCode  Size  Name
1  1 4096KBUnknown Chip
2  1 4096KBUnknown Chip

Help will be appreciated.

Gil


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Re: MTU Question [7:20096]

2001-09-16 Thread Kevin Wigle

Ignoring Inbound I think depends on what type of packet it is.

A while back while experimenting with RFC 1483, one end of a circuit had a
MTU of 4470 (default ATM if memory serves...) and the other had 1500.

OSPF was configured across this circuit but an adjacency would not form.

When OSPF debugging was turned on it was cool that we actually got an
English type of answer on the lines of MTU mismatch.

When the ATM interface was changed to 1500 the adjacency formed and routes
were propagated.

So another case of it depends.

Kevin Wigle

- Original Message -
From: EA Louie 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, 16 September, 2001 08:26
Subject: Re: MTU Question [7:20096]


  I am a little confused about how the MTU size
  configured on an interface affects the transmission of
  packets through that interface. My question is does it
  affects packets received on the interface or packets
  transmitted out of the interface?

 Great question.  It definitely affects packets transmitted OUT of the
 interface - if the packet is larger than the interface ip mtu, the router
 fragments the packet using the configured interface MTU value.  A
 demonstration of this is in GRE tunnel applications, which are by default
 1478 bytes (as opposed to 1500), so that a 1500 byte packet gets
fragmented
 when traversing the tunnel.

 On an INBOUND packet, the MTU is ignored.

 Just to verify this, I ran a bunch of debugs that show outbound
 fragmentation, but inbound the packets are not fragmented, just forwarded
to
 the next interface.




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Re: OSPF packets, point-to-multipoint [7:20115]

2001-09-16 Thread Alex Lee

Group,

Can someone help me to understand or point me to a link so that I can get a
definitive answer. Thanks.

Routing TCP/IP, Vol. 1, Jeff Doyle :
(a) Page # 417, 'Point-to-multipoint networks are a special configuration
.. because the network are seen as point-to-point links, OSPF packets
are multicast'.
(b) Page # 451, 'On point-to-multipoint and virtual link networks, updates
are unicasted to the interface addresses of adjacent neighbors'.
(c) Page # 561, 'The OSPF point-to-multipoint network type treats the
underlying as a collection of point-to-point links ..., and OSPF packets
are multicast to the neighbor.'




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RE: Undefined Port Adapter type 55 at bay 1 [7:20112]

2001-09-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu

no doubt you need a different IOS version. what are you running now? what is
the module?

actually, you can use the Cisco public configurator at

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/newConfig/config_root.pl

and go through the exercise yourself to discover this.

Chuck

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Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Undefined Port Adapter type 55 at bay 1 [7:20112]


Hi,

I have a 2621 router with 8M flash and 32M Ram. I
inserted a network module with 1 ethernet port into
it, the IOS 12.0 did not recognize it. It only sees
the FastEthernet ports that came with the router.
Upgrading the memory to 64M did not help issues,
Changing the module with two other onces did not help
the situation.

However, the IOS keep saying that the Adapter ports
are undefined.

Looking forward to your response.

Regards.
Oletu

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RE: OSPF packets, point-to-multipoint [7:20115]

2001-09-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Welcome to the world of OSPF. I trust you are prepared for a long and
rewarding journey through the maze of possibilities.

Much OSPF study is best done with a router at hand so you can set up various
things and look and see how the protocol behaves.

page 417: taken out of context. If you check how OSPF defaults on an NMBA
interface or multipoint subinterface you will find the default is NMBA

Serial2/3.1 is down, line protocol is down
  Internet Address 99.99.99.99/24, Area 0
  Process ID 1000, Router ID 192.168.1.1, Network Type NON_BROADCAST, Cost:
48
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DOWN, Priority 1
  No designated router on this network
  No backup designated router on this network
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 30, Dead 120, Wait 120, Retransmit 5

one can change this interface to an OSPF point-to-multipoint by using the
interface command ip ospf network point-to-multipoint, at which time you get

Serial2/3.1 is down, line protocol is down
  Internet Address 99.99.99.99/24, Area 0
  Process ID 1000, Router ID 192.168.1.1, Network Type POINT_TO_MULTIPOINT,
Cost
: 48
  Transmit Delay is 1 sec, State DOWN,
  Timer intervals configured, Hello 30, Dead 120, Wait 120, Retransmit 5

if you check RFC 2328, you will find that behaviour in terms of LSA's is
different for both of these cases. As are the configuration contortions you
must now perform.

a couple of more quotes from the RFC are found below

best wishes in your OSPF pursuits

Chuck


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Alex Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 9:30 AM
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Subject: Re: OSPF packets, point-to-multipoint [7:20115]


Group,

Can someone help me to understand or point me to a link so that I can get a
definitive answer. Thanks.

Routing TCP/IP, Vol. 1, Jeff Doyle :
(a) Page # 417, 'Point-to-multipoint networks are a special configuration
.. because the network are seen as point-to-point links, OSPF packets
are multicast'.
(b) Page # 451, 'On point-to-multipoint and virtual link networks, updates
are unicasted to the interface addresses of adjacent neighbors'.
(c) Page # 561, 'The OSPF point-to-multipoint network type treats the
underlying as a collection of point-to-point links ..., and OSPF packets
are multicast to the neighbor.'
--
CL inserted:

From the RFC:

12.4.1.4.  Describing Point-to-MultiPoint interfaces

For operational Point-to-MultiPoint interfaces, one or
more link descriptions are added to the router-LSA as
follows:

o   A single Type 3 link (stub network) is added with
Link ID set to the router's own IP interface
address, Link Data set to the mask 0x
(indicating a host route), and cost set to 0.

o   For each fully adjacent neighbor associated with the
interface, add an additional Type 1 link (point-to-
point) with Link ID set to the Router ID of the
neighboring router, Link Data set to the IP
interface address and cost equal to the interface's
configured output cost.

And also:


The IP destination address for the packet is selected as
follows.  On physical point-to-point networks, the IP
destination is always set to the address AllSPFRouters.  On all
other network types (including virtual links), the majority of
OSPF packets are sent as unicasts, i.e., sent directly to the
other end of the adjacency.  In this case, the IP destination is
just the Neighbor IP address associated with the other end of
the adjacency (see Section 10).  The only packets not sent as
unicasts are on broadcast networks; on these networks Hello
packets are sent to the multicast destination AllSPFRouters, the
Designated Router and its Backup send both Link State Update




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Re: flash problem [7:20113]

2001-09-16 Thread anyong

Hi Gil,

I guest this is a third party pcmcia flash and it's screwed already.
I've had this problem before, get a replacement and you'll be fine.

anyong

Gil Shulman  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Hi all,

 I am having some trouble with the installation of a new flash card.
 For some reason it marks the flash as Device not programmable, the write
 protected switch is o.k.
 I tried to repartition the flash with no luck.
 I am adding information from the Router, this is the third flash that I am
 replacing ( Is it possible that bootstrap version is not up to date enough
?
 ).

 Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
 IOS (tm) 1600 Software (C1600-BOOT-R), Version 11.1(10)AA, EARLY
DEPLOYMENT
 RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
 Copyright (c) 1986-1997 by cisco Systems, Inc.
 Compiled Tue 18-Mar-97 14:01 by ccai
 Image text-base: 0x04018060, data-base: 0x02005000

 ROM: System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(10)AA, EARLY DEPLOYMENT RELEASE
SOFTWARE
 (fc1)

 Router uptime is 2 minutes
 System restarted by power-on
 System image file is eprom:c1600-boot-r.111-10.AA, booted via ROM

 cisco 1601 (68360) processor (revision C) with 3584K/512K bytes of memory.
 Processor board ID 06037967
 X.25 software, Version 2.0, NET2, BFE and GOSIP compliant.
 1 Ethernet/IEEE 802.3 interface.
 1 Serial(sync/async) network interface.
 System/IO memory with parity enabled (On Board Memory disabled)
 8K bytes of non-volatile configuration memory.
 8192K bytes of  PCMCIA flash (Device not programmable)

 Configuration register is 0x2102




 PCMCIA flash directory:
 No files in PCMCIA flash
 [0 bytes used, 8388608 available, 8388608 total]
 8192K bytes of  PCMCIA flash (Device not programmable)

ChipBankCode  Size  Name
 1  1 4096KBUnknown Chip
 2  1 4096KBUnknown Chip

 Help will be appreciated.

 Gil




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Re: Simulator for ISDN [7:20082]

2001-09-16 Thread Brad Ellis

Rick,

You should be able to accomplish all of your CCIE lab tasks using an ISDN
simulator like the one at www.cheapisdn.com (Cisco uses a simulator in the
CCIE lab as well).  I think simulators are more convenient then trying to
drag around ISDN phone lines...at least this way you dont have to deal with
your phone company and wait 2 years to get your ISDN lines activated!!!  :)

thanks,
-Brad
Rick Kingston  wrote in message
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 Is there anything that I will be unable to do [that is relevant to
preparing
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service
 with my local phone company).

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Fw: RANT Longish, Why Cisco and not ...!!! [7:19933]

2001-09-16 Thread Robert Hanley

such a pissing contest for chrissakes? Being a New Yorker I enjoy the give 
take. We say f*ck you to each other the way most people say good morning. But
pig-headed barely covers it here. Your words not mine Dan.

First, three things:
Dan;
1. Please don't use my work email address, it is for work only. That was not
the point of origin of my message, it was in the header, I know. No hard
feelings. Just please don't use it.
2. Why this at least somewhat reasonable reply only to me personally, and
that
ridiculous post to the list ?
3. Lighten up man. This is neither religion, politics, or sex. Rather than
getting a job bagging groceries, why don't you relax and enjoy the
opportunity
to learn about something new and enhance your career? My warnings about the
impending obsolescence of software based routers as such was not intended as
an insult, but as a heads up. One would think smart folks like those on this
list would want to be hip to the next big thing as Chuck said. Meanwhile
understanding routing and protocols is just as important as ever and will
continue to be, so your efforts are hardly wasted. But IOS as such has become
a limitation to engineering distributed systems which are key to getting away
from purely software based boxes.

Your sarcasm and anal aggressive attitude notwithstanding, you do bring up
some interesting points that I think deserve discussion amongst the broader
list so I'm forwarding this along whether you want the list to know you can
actually behave like a reasonable human being or not. This does not require a
reply on your part btw, unless you genuinely want to add something
constructive.

Dan stated: Of course we want solid Cisco shops ! This finally gets down to
the nitty gritty of it doesn't it ?

What if doing it strictly the Cisco way leaves you with a network that is far
more complex than it needs to be, doesn't scale, (or at best only scales at
huge additional expense), and performs poorly on a day to day basis? As an
engineer wouldn't you want to arrive at a solution that best serves your
companies or clients needs? How does having a sub-par network make your life
easier? How many Cisco clients have put in switched networks and found no
improvement? Why was there no improvement? (starts with an r...ends with a
call to Nortel...sorry I couldn't resist (1-800-4-Nortel btw)) (that was
humor)

If you can't implement a 2 layer campus switched network with gig-e risers
and
100Mb to the desktops because a pair of Cat6500s can't scale to service all
those closets, what do you do? Add a whole extra layer? If you have to
interconnect campuses, what do we call the layer that used to be called the
core that is now L2 only since the performance of our Core Cat 6500s
plummets if we turn on L3? What if you could just enable routing on the ports
feeding the risers with no penalty in throughput, and no add-on hardware
required? (what a concept ! ..pretty cool huh? Lets start a company!)
Personally I would want to have those options if I was designing a network.
Lastly what do we do if our Core connects to the rest of our corporate
network via optical ethernet and we need one L3 port in our L2 only Core ???
Add another Layer ? How many Cat 6500s do we need in that layer to have
redundant links to all the switches in the layer above that can't be
connected
to each other because of spanning tree issues ? I can understand John
Chambers
wanting to push a few extra boxes on his loyal customers, but this is getting
downright scary! I'm reminded of the Wall St. firm that couldn't implement
the
network Cisco designed for them (all Cat6500s, everywhere) because the
building management said they would have to vacate three floors in the
building to provide enough power. Is this stuff becoming relevant yet ?

Most of the firms and agencies I have consulted at in the past and work with
today use a variety of different systems depending on what serves their
purposes and requirements best. Not just in networking equipment, but in
systems too; both platform types and network operating systems. All too often
the shops that won't consider anything but one brand do so because they
either
lack the expertise in house to properly evaluate and engineer the
alternatives
or their technology decisions are being made by upper management without
consulting the knowledgeable people they do have on staff, very often to the
chagrin of those who must implement and maintain it. Believe me I've watched
many a train wreck in progress, and it's very difficult to bear when you are
the sort of person who tries to do things properly.

Aside from my current responsibilities as a Nortel SE I have no particular
preferences and can honestly say that if I were consulting again I would
recommend a solution that would best meet my client's criteria, and make sure
they understood the trade-offs they were making. If their primary criteria
was
maintaining a single vendor solution and the already have crisco up the
wazoo,
so be it. It's 

RE: PIX and EXCHANGE [7:20098]

2001-09-16 Thread Steve Smith

If you do not have a fronted server or you are not using OWA all you
need is 25 and 110 TCP.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Pierre-Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 8:27 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PIX and EXCHANGE [7:20098]


Thank you Ryan, it does make sense!

Sorry for the late reply, I was down for 3 days for upgrade.

(All my servers are now BEHIND the firewall!). I still have 1 issue
however.


My Exchange server was receiving mail but could not send any.

I finally decided to create a static mapping for the mail server

and created two conduits to let all tcp and udp traffic go through!

I would like to tighten the security (without causing much down time).

Anyone out there who has a MS Exchange 2000 Server and done this before?

 ...

Pierre-Alex



-Original Message-
From: Ryan Lecomte [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 3:31 PM
To: pierreg
Subject: RE: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate --FIXED [7:19536]


Pierre-Alex,

The global address is used for computers on the inside network to access
the outside. All of the computers on the inside will look like they are
originating from this address.

With version 6.0 you can use the outside address, not the global address
for static mappings but only for a single port to an address. Here's
more detail:

You can translate 10.1.1.13 on the inside to 102.162.86.53 port 80 on
the outside interface
You can translate 10.1.1.14 on the inside to 102.162.86.53 port 25 on
the outside interface
You can translate 10.1.1.15 on the inside to 102.162.86.53 port 53 on
the outside interface

You can't translate 10.1.1.13 and 10.1.1.14 to 102.162.86.53 and both
use port 80. Does that make sense?

You're right, before v6.0 the outside address was not useful.


Ryan

-Original Message-
From: pierreg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 6:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate --FIXED [7:19536]


Thank you, I chose 102.162.86.54 and that did the trick.

Please help me understand the following two points:

1) What rational for not being able to use the same IP address for the
static mapping and the global translation IP address?

2) Can I use the IP address (outside) of the firewall to do static
mapping?
If not then:

3) What is the purpose of the outside IP address? Looks kind of a waste
to
me!

Thanks again

Pierre-Alex



--

Hello,


Try This...

static (inside,outside) 102.162.86.xxx 10.1.1.13 netmask 255.255.255.255
conduit permit tcp host 102.162.86.xxx eq 80 any

You can't use the same address as your global translation 102.162.86.52
try 102.162.86.54


The first line creates the translation and the second line permits any
host to access your server on port 80.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Ryan

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PIX -- Cannot locate the static xlate [7:19512]


Hi all,

I have a Web server on the internal side of the firewall (10.1.1.13)
I am trying to open port 80 of the firewall to internet traffic
I get the error message: Cannot locate the static xlate
when I enter the command:

pixfirewall(config)# conduit 102.162.86.52 80 tcp 0

What am I doing wrong? My configs are below:

PIX Version 4.0.7
enable password 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
passwd 2KFQnbNIdI.2KYOU encrypted
hostname pixfirewall
no failover
names
syslog output 20.3
no syslog console
interface ethernet outside 10baset
interface ethernet inside 10baset
ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
ip address outside 102.162.86.53 255.255.255.128
arp timeout 14400
global 1 102.162.86.52-102.162.86.52
nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
age 10
no rip outside passive
no rip outside default
no rip inside passive
no rip inside default
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 102.162.86.1 1
timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
http 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
telnet 10.1.1.13 255.255.255.255
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500




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Re: POP3 SMTP through Pix to Static NAT Address [7:19931]

2001-09-16 Thread pat

Hello,

  This is common problem in PIX. when internal client
gets Public IP from DNS, it tries to reach that IP.
Since it is external IP  PIX routes it outside  hence
packets are lost. There is workaround provided by PIX
for this  kind of problem. YOu need to use alia
command on PIX. Please ref to

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/alias.html

or
This document explains the use of the alias command on
the Cisco Secure PIX Firewall.

The alias command has two possible functions:

It can be used to do DNS Doctoring of DNS replies
from an external DNS server. 

In DNS Doctoring, the PIX changes the DNS response
from a DNS server to be a different IP address than
the DNS server actually answered for a given name. 

This process is used when we want the actual
application call from the internal client to connect
to an internal server by its internal IP address. 

It can be used to do Destination NAT (dnat) of one
destination IP address to another IP address. 

In dnat, the PIX changes the destination IP of an
application call from one IP address to another IP
address. 

This process is used when we want the actual
application call from the internal client to the
server in a perimeter (dmz) network by its external IP
address. This does not doctor the DNS replies. 
For example, if a host sends a packet to 99.99.99.99,
you can use the alias command to redirect traffic to
another address, such as 10.10.10.10. You can also use
this command to prevent conflicts when you have IP
addresses on a network that are the same as those on
the Internet or another intranet. For more
information, consult the PIX 


Hope this will help you

pat



--- atram  wrote:
 I have a situation which someone may be able to shed
 some light on.
 
 The configuration that is in place is a PIX 515 6.01
 with a public IP on the
 'outside' interface and private IP on the 'inside'
 interface as you would
 normally see in a straight-forward config.
 
 We are using PAT to another external IP for all
 internal users.  Also there
 are static NAT statements on this same external IP
 (one used for PAT) that
 translate to the appropriate internal IPs for the
 respective services.
 
 Ex.
 static (inside,outside) tcp x.x.x.x  pop3 10.x.x.x 
 pop3 netmask x.x.x.x
 (translating all pop3 queried traffic on x.x.x.x to
 be forwarded to
 10.x.x.x)
 
 
 One inbound access list is applied to the 'outside'
 interface filtering for
 the protocols we need allowed in and for the static
 nats.
 
 
 So this works fine for all external users and
 querying the various
 protocols.  All locations are connected via private
 frame WAN to the central
 location, where the internet connection out is and
 also this PIX.
 
 Here is the problem.  There are travelling users
 which bounce from site to
 site and are configured to access email via POP3. 
 Unfortunately this will
 not work from inside the PIX.  What it looks like is
 that basically the
 client is querying a pop3 server which resolves to
 the public IP address
 which is in turn the same address assigned for the
 static nat translation to
 the actual internal pop3 box.  I would change the
 client to resolve pop3 to
 the actual internal IP address but then they would
 be unable to reach the
 box from home or hotel etc.
 
 ie.  client queries pop3 to 'popserver.domain.com' 
 dns resolves this to
 x.x.x.x from above static NAT.  Query fails.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be
 happening and could shed
 some light on whether this can be done first of all,
 and what steps may need
 to be taken on the PIX so that interal queries for
 pop3 and smtp will be
 able to go out through the PAT and come back in as
 the static nat translates
 them and still work.
 
 
 Thanks VERY much for anyones input.
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Re: POP3 SMTP through Pix to Static NAT Address [7:19931]

2001-09-16 Thread pat

Hello,

  This is common problem in PIX. when internal client
gets Public IP from DNS, it tries to reach that IP.
Since it is external IP  PIX routes it outside  hence
packets are lost. There is workaround provided by PIX
for this  kind of problem. YOu need to use alia
command on PIX. Please ref to

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/110/alias.html

or
This document explains the use of the alias command on
the Cisco Secure PIX Firewall.

The alias command has two possible functions:

It can be used to do DNS Doctoring of DNS replies
from an external DNS server. 

In DNS Doctoring, the PIX changes the DNS response
from a DNS server to be a different IP address than
the DNS server actually answered for a given name. 

This process is used when we want the actual
application call from the internal client to connect
to an internal server by its internal IP address. 

It can be used to do Destination NAT (dnat) of one
destination IP address to another IP address. 

In dnat, the PIX changes the destination IP of an
application call from one IP address to another IP
address. 

This process is used when we want the actual
application call from the internal client to the
server in a perimeter (dmz) network by its external IP
address. This does not doctor the DNS replies. 
For example, if a host sends a packet to 99.99.99.99,
you can use the alias command to redirect traffic to
another address, such as 10.10.10.10. You can also use
this command to prevent conflicts when you have IP
addresses on a network that are the same as those on
the Internet or another intranet. For more
information, consult the PIX 


Hope this will help you



--- atram  wrote:
 I have a situation which someone may be able to shed
 some light on.
 
 The configuration that is in place is a PIX 515 6.01
 with a public IP on the
 'outside' interface and private IP on the 'inside'
 interface as you would
 normally see in a straight-forward config.
 
 We are using PAT to another external IP for all
 internal users.  Also there
 are static NAT statements on this same external IP
 (one used for PAT) that
 translate to the appropriate internal IPs for the
 respective services.
 
 Ex.
 static (inside,outside) tcp x.x.x.x  pop3 10.x.x.x 
 pop3 netmask x.x.x.x
 (translating all pop3 queried traffic on x.x.x.x to
 be forwarded to
 10.x.x.x)
 
 
 One inbound access list is applied to the 'outside'
 interface filtering for
 the protocols we need allowed in and for the static
 nats.
 
 
 So this works fine for all external users and
 querying the various
 protocols.  All locations are connected via private
 frame WAN to the central
 location, where the internet connection out is and
 also this PIX.
 
 Here is the problem.  There are travelling users
 which bounce from site to
 site and are configured to access email via POP3. 
 Unfortunately this will
 not work from inside the PIX.  What it looks like is
 that basically the
 client is querying a pop3 server which resolves to
 the public IP address
 which is in turn the same address assigned for the
 static nat translation to
 the actual internal pop3 box.  I would change the
 client to resolve pop3 to
 the actual internal IP address but then they would
 be unable to reach the
 box from home or hotel etc.
 
 ie.  client queries pop3 to 'popserver.domain.com' 
 dns resolves this to
 x.x.x.x from above static NAT.  Query fails.
 
 Does anyone have any suggestions on what may be
 happening and could shed
 some light on whether this can be done first of all,
 and what steps may need
 to be taken on the PIX so that interal queries for
 pop3 and smtp will be
 able to go out through the PAT and come back in as
 the static nat translates
 them and still work.
 
 
 Thanks VERY much for anyones input.
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Re: InterVLAN routing VLAN Sub-Interfaces [7:16445]

2001-09-16 Thread Hamid

Ok Agreed.

But what if the routers finds 2 matchings for one IP address while
performing an ARP broadcast?

Hamid

*

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 Keep in mind that one routes between IP subnets, not VLANs. VLANs are a
 layer two concept.  From there you should be able to answer you own first
 question.  In the second case, given IP subnets have unique ranges, only
on
 PC will be on the valid subnet and hence be able to communicate to the
rest
 of the network.  Neither PC will be disabled as far as I know, but only
one
 will function.  Using DHCP is highly recommended to overcome this manual
 configuration errors, not to mention it scales better.

 Pete


 *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***

 On 8/18/2001 at 3:55 AM Hamid wrote:

 Hi
 
 I was studying the InterVlan routing documents and I got to some
questions.
 In a scenario like the attached file:
 
 1. How does the external Router decide how to route the packets between
the
 VLANs, is the INTERVLAN routing based on the IP address assigned to
 sub-inteface?
 
 2. In these scenarios, how does the router detect a conflicting IP
address?
 For example, if each IP subnet is assigned to a VLAN( 10.10.1.0 to VLAN 1
 and 10.10.2.0 to VLAN 2), if two computers on both VLANs are assigned the
 same IP address (for example 10.10.1.5), how is the confilit detected and
 which computer is disabled?
 
 
 Thanks
 
 Hamid
 
 
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Avoiding IP conflicts in a MULTI-VLAN environment [7:20124]

2001-09-16 Thread Hamid

Hi group

I am setting up a network with some NT4 servers, a Catalyst 2948 switch ,
and a 7204 VXR router and some access servers. The network consists a 7
VLANs, and all the servers and routers are on multi-VLAN or TRUNK interfaces
on the switch. The LAN consists of many computers with different operating
systems such as UNIX, LINUX and  Win2k. lots of computers that will be
connected to this LAN are laptops so I can't implemets PORT SECURITY on the
Catalyst.

The problem is that I want to prevent my clients to make IP Conflicts in my
network. Correct me if I am wrong, but someone had told me that when an IP
conflict occurs , the computer with the greater ARP version wins (or
something like that !), so the RED HAT 7.1 LINUX operating systems would
take down my NT servers.

Any ideas or soloutions  how I could prevent these conflicts?

Thanks in advance

Hamid




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Re: Avoiding IP conflicts in a MULTI-VLAN environment [7:20124]

2001-09-16 Thread Nigel Taylor

Hamid,
I would recomend using DHCP for any of devices that dosen't need
to be static.  Of course you servers would be hard coded with their IPs, but
all other workstations would get on dynamically.  This way the posibility of
have IP confilcts shouldn't be a problem.


HTH
Nigel.

- Original Message -
From: Hamid 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:51 PM
Subject: Avoiding IP conflicts in a MULTI-VLAN environment [7:20124]


 Hi group

 I am setting up a network with some NT4 servers, a Catalyst 2948 switch ,
 and a 7204 VXR router and some access servers. The network consists a 7
 VLANs, and all the servers and routers are on multi-VLAN or TRUNK
interfaces
 on the switch. The LAN consists of many computers with different operating
 systems such as UNIX, LINUX and  Win2k. lots of computers that will be
 connected to this LAN are laptops so I can't implemets PORT SECURITY on
the
 Catalyst.

 The problem is that I want to prevent my clients to make IP Conflicts in
my
 network. Correct me if I am wrong, but someone had told me that when an IP
 conflict occurs , the computer with the greater ARP version wins (or
 something like that !), so the RED HAT 7.1 LINUX operating systems would
 take down my NT servers.

 Any ideas or soloutions  how I could prevent these conflicts?

 Thanks in advance

 Hamid




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Re: MPLS and RFC 2547 (MPLS VPN's) - opinions? [7:20101]

2001-09-16 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hello all:

I would like to hear some thoughts on people's opinions on MPLS in general
and on RFC 2547-style VPN's in particular.   Are providers and (very) large
enterprises going to embrace these techniques for their purported
advantages, or does it represent too much change for too little benefit?

There's quite a range of opinion. Speaking personally, I see them 
used for provider-provisioned VPNs, but terminating at the site 
level. Also, I question the real need for the amount of flexibility 
-- and thus complexity -- that they support, which potentially loads 
more and more state into stressed BGP routers.

They are also a market reality.

At a NANOG meeting, a respected operator said in a public forum, If 
this is the answer...it must have been a pretty stupid question.

Marketeers from all vendors like to differentiate their products with 
more and more features. I don't personally equate adding more and 
more features with improving reliability.

Not everything that COULD be done SHOULD be done.




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Re: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]

2001-09-16 Thread Fly Ers

George,
do you have control of the vpn3000?  the split tunnel list on the 
concentrator should be setup to with only the networks accessible from ipsec 
tunnel.  otherwise, all ip traffic will be sent through the tunnel.


From: George Kallingal 
Reply-To: George Kallingal 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:31:20 -0400

I have a question about the Cisco VPN Client software and how it binds its
driver to a network card.

We have an NT server that we are connecting to a remote network using the
Cisco VPN Client (to a Concentrator 3000, I believe).  Upon connection
through the VPN, I lose connectivity to the other servers on the local
network.  Is there a way to maintain the local area connection while
connected over VPN?  I tried to multi-home the server and unbind the DNE
driver for one network card, but that just disabled the network card.

Has anyone experienced this before?  Are there any workarounds? Fixes?  Or
does this require a call to Cisco TAC?

Thanks.

George
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Re: MTU Question [7:20096]

2001-09-16 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 08:50 AM 9/16/01, Circusnuts wrote:
I believe the correct way to answer this question is, the MTU effects any
interface to interface communication where a TCP handshake takes place.
That would mean incoming or outgoing.  The window of information must match
what I expect to receive.

Have I come close ???

Nope. Sorry. ;-) TCP is end-to-end, so interface-to-interface has no 
meaning at the TCP layer. You may be thinking about the TCP segment size. 
Each side of a TCP session specifies the size of the largest TCP segment 
that it can handle receiving. This info is carried in the TCP Options field 
in a SYN packet during the 3-way handshake. The two sides do not need to 
agree. It is not a negotiated value.

The segment size is the size of each message. This is not the same as the 
window size which is much larger. The window size is how much data the host 
is ready to receive before the other side should stop and wait for an ACK.

Regardless, the original question is down a layer and not specific to TCP. 
When IP goes to send a datagram, if the datagram is larger than the MTU of 
the output data-link-layer interface, IP fragments the datagram. The end 
recipient reassembles it.

How does the TCP segment size relate to MTU? It usually defaults to 
something that matches the local interface. For example on a PC that is on 
Ethernet, it defaults to 1460 (1500 minus the 20-byte IP header and 20-byte 
TCP header).

Cisco lets you set both the interface MTU and an IP MTU. They can actually 
differ, but there's generally no need for them to be different.

As far as incoming frames, I doubt you could affect this by setting the 
interface MTU. My guess is that checking the size of any incoming frame is 
done at the chip level. An Ethernet chip would trash a frame bigger than 
1522 (counting header, CRC, and any tagging) and report a giant.

Priscilla

Phil

- Original Message -
From: Lists Wizard
To:
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 2:19 AM
Subject: MTU Question [7:20096]


  Hi Groups,
 
  I am a little confused about how the MTU size
  configured on an interface affects the transmission of
  packets through that interface. My question is does it
  affects packets received on the interface or packets
  transmitted out of the interface?
 
 
  Thanks
 
  Lw
 
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RE: Larry Seltzer Article - Someone needs some glassess .. [7:20130]

2001-09-16 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

It definitely said CCIE before. We got it changed!!? ;-) Or Larry got a 
clue finally and did some research.

Priscilla

At 11:00 PM 9/15/01, Dave wrote:
Dish,

Thanks for pointing out the change.  I did read the article very carefully.
The paragraph that includes; Terms like MCSE (Microsoft Certified Systems
Engineer) indicate only successful completion of the program and minimal
competence in the product., has been changed.  Previously it said CCIE.

The wonders of electronic publishing!

Dave Swink

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Chris Haller
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 7:42 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Larry Seltzer Article - Someone needs some glassess ..
[7:20077]


If anyone actually went and read the article by Larry
Seltzer, you would have discovered that he refered to
the MCSE certification, not the CCIE.  I was ticked at
Seltzer at first, but now that I see what he actually
wrote, I agree with him.  I got my MCSE in a box of
CrackerJack !!  It has taken over a year for me to
gain the necessary knowledge and balls to take and
pass the written, and even though my lab stae isnt
until May of 2002, I still may not be ready.  minimal
Competence  My Pa-too-tie !!!

GOD BLESS AMERICA and all those who love her !!!

Dish

=
Chris from Chicago
MasterCNE, CCNP, ICNE, MCP

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Re: lab equipment [7:14648]

2001-09-16 Thread Ron Bandes

If you're looking for PRI, take a look at the Adtran Atlas.  For BRI I love
my Merge AF2000, but they're hard to find.

What is the URL for the 3900 sim?
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 I got a quote from Emutel.  It's about 2k for the solo and 10k for the pri
 model.
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 Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 7:21 AM
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 Subject: Re: lab equipment [7:14648]


 I would trade the PIX for a 1010 Lightstream and get a couple of 2504's.
 This will give you SDN and Token Ring.  Of course, if you really want to
use
 the ISDN, you're going to have to invest in an emulator. Teltone's are
nice,
 but I have an Emutel Solo, which is cheaper and more configurable.
 My .02c,
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Re: OSPF packets, point-to-multipoint [7:20115]

2001-09-16 Thread Alex Lee

Still do not understand,

Building Scalable Cisco Networks, CiscoPress, page 123
 However,bcause the point-to-multipoint mode treats the network as a
collection of point-to-point links, multicast hello packets discover
neighbors dynamically, and statically configuring neighbors is not
required.

Routing TCP/IP, Vol. 1, page 433
On broadcast and point-to-point network types, hellos are multicast to
AllSPFRouters (224.0.0.5). On NBMA, point-to-multipoint, and virtual link
network types, hello are unicast to individual neighbors. The implication of
unicasting is that router must first learn of the existence of its neighbors
either through manual configuration or an underlying mechanism such as
Inverse ARP.

What have I missed ?




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can 3640 RAS can support both out incoming call [7:20133]

2001-09-16 Thread Jagan Krishnaraj

Hai all

Does anybody can help me.

Can a 3640 router with 16 port NM analog modem
can support for both incoming and outgoing calls.

I am sure that it supports incoming calls.

I am not sure about the out going calls from 3640.

The situation is like this :

NT server at the HQ should call remote sites through the RAS Cisco 3640 and
the remote sites Windows NT workstations should also
be possible to call the HQ through the same 3640 RAS.


I would like to know whether this is possible are not.

please anybody help me regarding this asap.

regards
jagan


and 


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Re: Friday Funnie #2, Couldn't let this one go by!! [7:14809]

2001-09-16 Thread Ron Bandes

I believe Konrad Zuse of Germany built a binary electronic computer before
Atanasoff, although it pleases me to hear you giving credit to Atanasoff
over Eckert and Mauchly.  Poor Atanasoff was restrained for 25 years from
taking credit due to his work being an official secret of  the US gov't.
For info about Zuse, see
http://irb.cs.tu-berlin.de/~zuse/Konrad_Zuse/en/index.html .
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Jennifer Cribbs  wrote in message
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 That's what I meant Howard. I think I left out a few words as I do that
most
 of the time. I think much quicker than I type.

 My understanding of this:

 All computer machines were decimal[base10] until the 40's. Atanasoff was
the
 original one who suggested binary to be used instead of base10 to correct
 the computational probems that existed in measuring current/voltage. In
 those days with base10, one was a little current, two was a little more,
 three a little more than that and so on and so on. It was not a very good
 way to be accurate and was met with many failures. With the induction of
 binary for current measureage, it became easy and computers were on their
 way to being a successful marketing venture.  One was on, zero was off.
Very
 simple. But the original idea of the binary counting concept started with
 Ada.  Not in the computer sense, but in a general sense of numbers.

 Or at least that what I have read.

 Jenn


 -Original Message-
 From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 4:23 AM
 To: Jennifer Cribbs; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Friday Funnie #2, Couldn't let this one go by!! [7:14809]


 Not serious, but the intellectual credit here goes to George  Boole--as in
 boolean arithmetic.  Babbage/Lovelace machines were decimal.



 At 02:01 PM 8/3/2001 -0400, Jennifer Cribbs wrote:
 Is this serious?
 
 I was under the impression that Ada Lovelace invented the binary counting
 system.  I was also under the impression that John Atanasoff came up with
 the brilliant coding system that expressed everything in terms of two
 numbers for the methodology of measuring the current or lack of current
in
 regards to computers way back in the 40's.
 
 Before that everyone kept trying to incorporate the base10 system in
 computers, which was a major headache and unsuccessfull, but that was in
 the
 vacuum tube days.
 
 hmmm.  Surely Microsoft doesn't think they can do this..Maybe this is a
 joke
 however and I am just too d*** serious.
 
 Jenn
 
 
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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Natasha
 Sent: Friday, August 03, 2001 10:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: Friday Funnie #2, Couldn't let this one go by!! [7:14809]
 
 
 REDMOND, WA--In what CEO Bill Gates called an unfortunate but
 necessary step to protect our intellectual property from theft and
 exploitation by
 competitors, the Microsoft Corporation patented the numbers one and
 zero Monday.
 
 With the patent, Microsoft's rivals are prohibited from manufacturing
 or selling products containing zeroes and ones--the mathematical
 building blocks of all
 computer languages and programs--unless a royalty fee of 10 cents per
 digit used is paid
 to the software giant.
 
 
 Microsoft has been using the binary system of ones and zeroes ever
 since its inception in 1975, Gates told reporters. For years, in the
 interest of the
 overall health of the computer industry, we permitted the free and
 unfettered use of our proprietary
 numeric systems. However, changing marketplace conditions and the
 increasingly
 predatory practices of certain competitors now leave us with no choice
 but to seek
 compensation for the use of our numerals.
 
 A number of major Silicon Valley players, including Apple Computer,
 Netscape and Sun Microsystems, said they will challenge the Microsoft
 patent as
 monopolistic and anti-competitive, claiming that the 10-cent-per-digit
 licensing fee
 would bankrupt them instantly.
 
 While, technically, Java is a complex system of algorithms used to
 create a platform-independent programming environment, it is, at its
 core, just
 a string of trillions of ones and zeroes, said Sun Microsystems CEO
 Scott McNealy, whose
 company created the Java programming environment used in many Internet
 applications.
 The licensing fees we'd have to pay Microsoft every day would be
 approximately
 327,000 times the total net worth of this company.
 
 If this patent holds up in federal court, Apple will have no choice
 but to convert to analog, said Apple interim CEO Steve Jobs, and I
 have serious doubts whether
 this company would be able to remain competitive selling pedal-operated
 computers
 running software off vinyl LPs.
 
 As a result of the Microsoft patent, many other companies have begun
 radically revising their product lines: 

RE: Bridging [7:20078]

2001-09-16 Thread Lupi, Guy

What I was going to do was set up 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252 on the serial
interface of the 2501 and 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252 on the serial
interface of the 2503, and just see if I could ping and get OSPF to work.
It isn't working, I have CRB enabled, set up bridge group 1, put both
interfaces on the 2511 into that bridge group, and told the router to bridge
IP for that bridge group using bridge 1 bridge ip, which doesn't show up
in the config for some reason.  Here is a partial running config from the
2511, and a show bridge group:

 
bridge crb
!
!
!
interface Loopback1
 ip address 192.168.247.1 255.255.255.255
 no ip mroute-cache
!
interface Loopback2
 ip address 25.11.0.1 255.255.255.255
 no ip mroute-cache
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 198.207.193.112 255.255.255.0
 no ip mroute-cache
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 clockrate 130
 bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 bridge-group 1
!
ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 198.207.193.254
no ip http server 
!
!
!
!
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee
__

2511#sh bridge group

Concurrent routing and bridging is enabled.

Bridge Group 1 is running the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree protocol

   Port 3 (Serial0) of bridge group 1 is forwarding
   Port 4 (Serial1) of bridge group 1 is forwarding

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/15/2001 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Bridging [7:20078]

yes.

how are you going to test that it's working?

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Lupi, Guy
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bridging [7:20078]


Can you configure bridging using only serial interfaces, no ethernet
involved at all?  I have a 2501 connected to a 2511, and a 2503
connected to
the same 2511, both via serial.  I want to configure the 2 serial
interfaces
on the 2511 to bridge between them, is that possible?  There is no
practical
reason for this, just setting it up in the lab and I am curious.
Thanks.




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hyperterminal giberish? [7:20136]

2001-09-16 Thread Jason Couch

I have just recently started using hyperterminal as opposed to ZOC in order
to get ready for the CCIE lab.  I noticed that while working in
hyperterminal that it spits giberish out of the top of the working area
(white area) into the buffer (grey area), hence making my scrollback buffer
entirely useless.  I played with the settings and can't seem to find any fix
for it.  Anyone have any input?

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something about vpn [7:20137]

2001-09-16 Thread Leo Shen

can a pix and a router(such as 1720) make a vpn?
and can a pix(or a router) and netscreen(a sort of hardware firewall)make a
vpn?
for instance,in usa,there is a pix,in taiwan province of china,there is a
netscreen,can they make a vpn connection?
thanks




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Re: OSPF packets, point-to-multipoint [7:20115]

2001-09-16 Thread William

Hi Alex

In point-to-multipoint network, a DR will be elected and the DR will
multicast the message to all the ospf routers.  Where else in point-to-point
network, there are no DR selection and thats why either we rely on the
inverse arp or manually configure it.

William


Alex Lee  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Still do not understand,

 Building Scalable Cisco Networks, CiscoPress, page 123
  However,bcause the point-to-multipoint mode treats the network as a
 collection of point-to-point links, multicast hello packets discover
 neighbors dynamically, and statically configuring neighbors is not
 required.

 Routing TCP/IP, Vol. 1, page 433
 On broadcast and point-to-point network types, hellos are multicast to
 AllSPFRouters (224.0.0.5). On NBMA, point-to-multipoint, and virtual link
 network types, hello are unicast to individual neighbors. The implication
of
 unicasting is that router must first learn of the existence of its
neighbors
 either through manual configuration or an underlying mechanism such as
 Inverse ARP.

 What have I missed ?




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Re: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]

2001-09-16 Thread Jeff Smith

I believe you will have to enable split tunneling on the concentrator.  With 
this enabled packets destined for networks defined on the concentrator will 
be encrypted and sent to that gateway, and all others will use local 
routing.

Jeff


From: George Kallingal 
Reply-To: George Kallingal 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco VPN Client [7:19858]
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 17:31:20 -0400

I have a question about the Cisco VPN Client software and how it binds its
driver to a network card.

We have an NT server that we are connecting to a remote network using the
Cisco VPN Client (to a Concentrator 3000, I believe).  Upon connection
through the VPN, I lose connectivity to the other servers on the local
network.  Is there a way to maintain the local area connection while
connected over VPN?  I tried to multi-home the server and unbind the DNE
driver for one network card, but that just disabled the network card.

Has anyone experienced this before?  Are there any workarounds? Fixes?  Or
does this require a call to Cisco TAC?

Thanks.

George
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Lab Swap:Singapore [7:20140]

2001-09-16 Thread Cisco Lover

Hey Guys,

I have got lab in singapore for start of march,02.
Any one wanna exchange it with any day/date in 2001.

Thanks.



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RE: Bridging [7:20078]

2001-09-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu

concurrent routing and bridging permits routing and bridging on the same
router, but not on the same interfaces. you cannot bridge OSPF in this way,
if I understand you correctly. I don't see an OSPF configuration below, so I
can't really analyze it.

bridge bridge is unnecessary in that all bridgeable protocols are bridged by
default.

-Original Message-
From: Lupi, Guy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:27 PM
To: 'Chuck Larrieu '; '[EMAIL PROTECTED] '
Subject: RE: Bridging [7:20078]


What I was going to do was set up 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252 on the serial
interface of the 2501 and 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252 on the serial
interface of the 2503, and just see if I could ping and get OSPF to work.
It isn't working, I have CRB enabled, set up bridge group 1, put both
interfaces on the 2511 into that bridge group, and told the router to bridge
IP for that bridge group using bridge 1 bridge ip, which doesn't show up
in the config for some reason.  Here is a partial running config from the
2511, and a show bridge group:


bridge crb
!
!
!
interface Loopback1
 ip address 192.168.247.1 255.255.255.255
 no ip mroute-cache
!
interface Loopback2
 ip address 25.11.0.1 255.255.255.255
 no ip mroute-cache
!
interface Ethernet0
 ip address 198.207.193.112 255.255.255.0
 no ip mroute-cache
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 clockrate 130
 bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial1
 no ip address
 ip directed-broadcast
 no ip mroute-cache
 bridge-group 1
!
ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 198.207.193.254
no ip http server
!
!
!
!
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee
__

2511#sh bridge group

Concurrent routing and bridging is enabled.

Bridge Group 1 is running the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree protocol

   Port 3 (Serial0) of bridge group 1 is forwarding
   Port 4 (Serial1) of bridge group 1 is forwarding

-Original Message-
From: Chuck Larrieu
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 9/15/2001 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Bridging [7:20078]

yes.

how are you going to test that it's working?

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Lupi, Guy
Sent: Saturday, September 15, 2001 5:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bridging [7:20078]


Can you configure bridging using only serial interfaces, no ethernet
involved at all?  I have a 2501 connected to a 2511, and a 2503
connected to
the same 2511, both via serial.  I want to configure the 2 serial
interfaces
on the 2511 to bridge between them, is that possible?  There is no
practical
reason for this, just setting it up in the lab and I am curious.
Thanks.




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Re: Bridging [7:20078]

2001-09-16 Thread EA Louie

It actually works fine for a spanning tree bridge with no CRB or IRB...

lo0 172.17.3.1
 |
R1
 | s0 172.17.1.1
 | s0 172.17.1.2
R2
 | s1 172.17.1.3
 | s0 172.17.1.4
R3
 |
lo0 172.17.2.1


***R2 config***
!
interface Serial0
 bandwidth 1544
 ip address 172.17.1.2 255.255.255.0
 no ip mroute-cache
 no fair-queue
 clockrate 56000
 bridge-group 1
!
interface Serial1
 ip address 172.17.1.3 255.255.255.0
 clockrate 56000
 bridge-group 1
!
router rip
 network 172.17.0.0
!
bridge 1 protocol ieee
!

R2#sh span

 Bridge group 1 is executing the ieee compatible Spanning Tree protocol
  Bridge Identifier has priority 32768, address .0c90.b7b8
  Configured hello time 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
  We are the root of the spanning tree
  Topology change flag not set, detected flag not set
  Number of topology changes 4 last change occurred 00:40:00 ago
  from Serial1
  Times:  hold 1, topology change 35, notification 2
  hello 2, max age 20, forward delay 15
  Timers: hello 1, topology change 0, notification 0, aging 300

 Port 3 (Serial0) of Bridge group 1 is forwarding
   Port path cost 647, Port priority 128, Port Identifier 128.3.
   Designated root has priority 32768, address .0c90.b7b8
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address .0c90.b7b8
   Designated port id is 128.3, designated path cost 0
   Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
   Number of transitions to forwarding state: 2
   BPDU: sent 2256, received 0

 Port 4 (Serial1) of Bridge group 1 is forwarding
   Port path cost 647, Port priority 128, Port Identifier 128.4.
   Designated root has priority 32768, address .0c90.b7b8
   Designated bridge has priority 32768, address .0c90.b7b8
   Designated port id is 128.4, designated path cost 0
   Timers: message age 0, forward delay 0, hold 0
   Number of transitions to forwarding state: 1
   BPDU: sent 1214, received 0

R2#

***R1 config***
interface Loopback0
 ip address 172.17.3.1 255.255.255.0
 no logging event subif-link-status
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 172.17.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no logging event subif-link-status
!
router rip
 network 172.17.0.0

***R3 config***
interface Loopback0
 ip address 172.17.2.1 255.255.255.0
!
interface Serial0
 ip address 172.17.1.4 255.255.255.0
!
router rip
 network 172.17.0.0
!

R1#p 172.17.2.1

Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 172.17.2.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 64/66/68 ms

R3#p
Protocol [ip]:
Target IP address: 172.17.3.1
Repeat count [5]:
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]: y
Source address or interface: lo 0
Type of service [0]:
Set DF bit in IP header? [no]:
Validate reply data? [no]:
Data pattern [0xABCD]:
Loose, Strict, Record, Timestamp, Verbose[none]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 5, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 172.17.3.1, timeout is 2 seconds:
!
Success rate is 100 percent (5/5), round-trip min/avg/max = 68/68/68 ms
R3#

- Original Message -
From: Lupi, Guy 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Bridging [7:20078]


 What I was going to do was set up 192.168.1.1 255.255.255.252 on the
serial
 interface of the 2501 and 192.168.1.2 255.255.255.252 on the serial
 interface of the 2503, and just see if I could ping and get OSPF to work.
 It isn't working, I have CRB enabled, set up bridge group 1, put both
 interfaces on the 2511 into that bridge group, and told the router to
bridge
 IP for that bridge group using bridge 1 bridge ip, which doesn't show up
 in the config for some reason.  Here is a partial running config from the
 2511, and a show bridge group:


 bridge crb
 !
 !
 !
 interface Loopback1
  ip address 192.168.247.1 255.255.255.255
  no ip mroute-cache
 !
 interface Loopback2
  ip address 25.11.0.1 255.255.255.255
  no ip mroute-cache
 !
 interface Ethernet0
  ip address 198.207.193.112 255.255.255.0
  no ip mroute-cache
 !
 interface Serial0
  no ip address
  ip directed-broadcast
  no ip mroute-cache
  clockrate 130
  bridge-group 1
 !
 interface Serial1
  no ip address
  ip directed-broadcast
  no ip mroute-cache
  bridge-group 1
 !
 ip kerberos source-interface any
 ip classless
 ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 198.207.193.254
 no ip http server
 !
 !
 !
 !
 !
 bridge 1 protocol ieee
 __

 2511#sh bridge group

 Concurrent routing and bridging is enabled.

 Bridge Group 1 is running the IEEE compatible Spanning Tree protocol

Port 3 (Serial0) of bridge group 1 is forwarding
Port 4 (Serial1) of bridge group 1 is forwarding

 -Original Message-
 From: Chuck Larrieu
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 9/15/2001 9:09 PM
 Subject: RE: Bridging [7:20078]

 yes.

 how are you going to test that it's working?

 Chuck

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Lupi, Guy
 Sent: Saturday, 

Re: Interconnecting Netware Server and Workstation... [7:19911]

2001-09-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You say the server network is EBDCB76E.  Is this the internal network or
the network configured for the NIC?

(rummaging through the memory here... I'm no Netware guru...)

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 17/09/2001 03:35 pm -
   

   
Priscilla
Oppenheimer To:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Interconnecting Netware
Server
Sent by: and Workstation...
[7:19911]
   
nobody@groups
   
tudy.com
   

   

   
15/09/2001
04:13
am
   
Please
respond
to
   
Priscilla
   
Oppenheimer
   

   





Is the workstation directly connected to E0 on Router_2? What do you see
with show int e0? Is it up, up?

Is the workstation actually behind a switch and getting bit by no portfast?

That's jumping to conclusions, I know, but it's such a common problem

What happens when you try to log into the server? What is the error message

on the workstation?

Could you manually configure SAP at the workstation? Maybe the auto sense
encap isn't working.

Can the workstation do anything non-NetWare? For example, can it do an IP
ping to the routers?

Could you put a sniffer on the workstation? That would tell you what's
happening.

Please let us know what you find out. I'm collecting Novell troubleshooting

scenarios!  Thanks. ;-)

Priscilla

At 02:33 AM 9/14/01, you wrote:
Hello,
Am having difficulty being able to log into Netware 4.11 Server from a
workstation.

Setup is this:
Netware 4.11 Server
Tree: LHS
Context: LHS
Encapsulation: Ethernet_802.2
Network:  EBDCB76E

Server is attached to hub which is attached to E0 int on Router_1
We have Windows 2000 Pro Workstation attached to this hub also and can
login
to and manage server (everything works on local network).

Router_1
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX network address of EBDCB76E and encapsulation is SAP
int S0 is DCE, clockrate is 56000, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network EBDCB76E
network 10

Router_2
IPX Routing enabled
int E0 has IPX net of 20 and encap is SAP
int S1 is DTE, IPX net is 10, encap is HDLC
ipx router rip
network 10
network 20

Windows 2000 Pro Workstation is attached to E0 on Router_2 and IPX address
is 20.  Encap is on auto sense with Novell Client 4.8

Now, I can sh ipx servers and see the LHS services.  Also, sh ipx routes
and
I have routes established on both routers.

Am I missing something?


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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RE: OSPF packets, point-to-multipoint [7:20115]

2001-09-16 Thread Chuck Larrieu

without repeating my private response to your private mail, on NMBA
networks, one usually configures OSPF neighbors. The whole NMBA issue is
complex. There is the frame relay configuration, and then there is the OSPF
configuration on top of that. You can have point to multipoint frame relay
interfaces connected to physical, or point-to-point interfaces on the
distant end. Inverse arp maps a remote IP address to the associated other
side dlci.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Alex Lee
Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2001 7:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: OSPF packets, point-to-multipoint [7:20115]


Still do not understand,

Building Scalable Cisco Networks, CiscoPress, page 123
 However,bcause the point-to-multipoint mode treats the network as a
collection of point-to-point links, multicast hello packets discover
neighbors dynamically, and statically configuring neighbors is not
required.

Routing TCP/IP, Vol. 1, page 433
On broadcast and point-to-point network types, hellos are multicast to
AllSPFRouters (224.0.0.5). On NBMA, point-to-multipoint, and virtual link
network types, hello are unicast to individual neighbors. The implication of
unicasting is that router must first learn of the existence of its neighbors
either through manual configuration or an underlying mechanism such as
Inverse ARP.

What have I missed ?




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isdn call even if (apparentely) no ip request are coming to [7:20145]

2001-09-16 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Looks like a DNS request kicking it off.
Try 'debug dialer' - it should tell you clearly what initiates the call.

JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 17/09/2001 03:38 pm -
   

   
TP
  
cc:
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(apparentely) no
nobody@groupsip request are coming to
[7:19917]
   
tudy.com
   

   

   
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07:03
pm
   
Please
respond
to
   
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Dear Group,

I have a 801 ISDN router:  it sends a call even if (apparentely) no ip
request
are coming to.
I've enabled the debug ISDN q931 and debug ip packet.
And I can observe the following:

00:26:27: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=10.10.10.255 (Ethernet0), len 78,
rcvd 3
00:26:28: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=10.10.10.255 (Ethernet0), len 78,
rcvd 3
00:26:29: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=10.10.10.255 (Ethernet0), len 78,
rcvd 3
00:26:29: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=DNS IP address  (BRI0), g=DNS IP
address , len 62, forward
00:26:29: IP: s=10.10.10.6 (Ethernet0), d=213.183.144.20 (BRI0), len 62,
encapsulation failed
00:26:124554092544: %ISDN-6-LAYER2UP: Layer 2 for Interface BR0, TEI 67
changed to up
00:26:124554092544: ISDN BR0: TX -  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x05
00:26:124560085020: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
00:26:124554092544: Channel ID i = 0x83
00:26:124554092544: Called Party Number i = 0x80, 'xxx'
00:26:31: ISDN BR0: RX




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