Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso box lying around that I can actually experiment with. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability with Cisco? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=43999t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Returned mail--language [7:44000]
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: language The file is the original mail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44000t=44000 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BSCI-640-900 [7:44001]
Hi Group Is there any Cisco Press Book/Exam Certification Guide available for 640-900 exam, or any other publications? I've searched in ciscopress.com and other website, there aren't any..If anyone has given the above exam, pls throw some light (how did u prepare?) Fahim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44001t=44001 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Terminal Server load balancing [7:44002]
Hi, We have implemented load balancing between 5 microsoft terminal servers. The problem is when I looked at the second server I see 5 people connected but from the CSS view there is only 2 people connected. We tried this example with clearing counters on CSS and restarting all terminal servers to make sure everyone disconnected. After that again we check the statistics and nothing changed. For ex. Cisco shows 4 Microsoft shows 8. All the statistic gathered by issuing sh service summary and sh summary are not accurate as Microsoft Terminal Server Managers. What can be the problem? Any help will be appreciated? Best regards, Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44002t=44002 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSCI-640-900 [7:44001]
Try Cisco Press BSCN book and other Cisco Press books which cover the additional materials, according to the Cisco 640-900 Exam Blue Print. Sometimes you have to find the resources and compile it for yourself, rather than waiting for the author to spoon-feed you. It is all in the exam blue print Good Luck fahim wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi Group Is there any Cisco Press Book/Exam Certification Guide available for 640-900 exam, or any other publications? I've searched in ciscopress.com and other website, there aren't any..If anyone has given the above exam, pls throw some light (how did u prepare?) Fahim Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44003t=44001 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GBICs [7:44004]
Dear All, Does the new catalyst switches Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI and WS-C2950G-24-EI support WS-G5483 Gbics (The 1000BaseT GBIC), Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44004t=44004 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BSCI-640-900 [7:44001]
Oh come on! You should know that! Get the IS-IS network design book along with the BSCN book. Read Doyle and then read Halabi. If you have some decent experience with routing, you should pass with ease. just make sure you really do know IS-IS. Theo fahim Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/13/2002 03:19 AM AST Please respond to fahim To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: bcc: Subject: BSCI-640-900 [7:44001] Hi Group Is there any Cisco Press Book/Exam Certification Guide available for 640-900 exam, or any other publications? I've searched in ciscopress.com and other website, there aren't any..If anyone has given the above exam, pls throw some light (how did u prepare?) Fahim Message Posted at: http://www.g roupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44001t=44001 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list /cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44005t=44001 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
GBICs [7:44006]
Dear All, Does the new catalyst switches Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI and WS-C2950G-24-EI support WS-G5483 Gbics (The 1000BaseT GBIC), Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44006t=44006 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso box lying around that I can actually experiment with. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability with Cisco? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44007t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ATM interface [7:43596]
Hi I found the source of the problem. The interface slot seems not to be getting properly identifed in the reload process: %OIR-3-SEATED: Insert/removal failed (slot 2), check card seating %OIR-3-SEATED: Insert/removal failed (slot 2), check card I am in the process of checking that the card is OK. Silvia Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44008t=43596 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]
Hi.. We just bought a cisco 3550 switch and it has 2 gigabyte fiber ports 12, 13 and 10 gigabyte fastethernet ports 1-10. But why they are all shown to be the same for eg interface GigabitEthernet0/1-12 in the config. And What kind of cable should I connected to port 1-10? Cat5 or Cat6? If we connected via Cat5 it means the speed is 1000Mbit?? I also feel strange that why the config shown as no ip address in all the interface, I thought we can only configure IP for VLAN in switches not interface? What is means by no switchport?? hostname Switch ! enable secret 5 $1$ej9.$DMUvAUnZOAmvmgqBEzIxE0 ! interface GigabitEthernet0/1 no switchport no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/2 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/3 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/4 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/5 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/6 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/7 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/8 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/9 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/10 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/11 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/12 no ip address ...! interface VLAN1 ip address 172.20.137.50 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast ip nat outside _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44009t=44009 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: GBICs [7:44006]
Mamoon, Yes, this GBIC is fully supported in the Catalyst 6500, 4000, 3550 Series, 2950 Series, 3500 Series XL, and 2900 Series XL switches. The Catalyst 6500 and 4000 will support the new GBIC when the following software releases become available in 2HFY02: CatOS 7.2 - both Catalyst 6500 and 4000 CatIOS 12.1(13)E - Catalyst 6500 only Tim CCIE 9015 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mamoon Dawood Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: GBICs [7:44006] Dear All, Does the new catalyst switches Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI and WS-C2950G-24-EI support WS-G5483 Gbics (The 1000BaseT GBIC), Regards, Mamoon Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44010t=44006 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need help on crtl-shift-6 [7:43844]
Marko, I perform line con 0 escape-character 27 The crt-shift-6 x not working anymore. The Esc key not working as well. Do you have some doc. about this? Thanks! Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44011t=43844 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Need help on crtl-shift-6 [7:43844]
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/ffun _c/ffcprt1/fcf003.htm#xtocid7 [watch for line wrap] Of course, this will work if you are logged on console. If you are logged on the router through some other means (aux, vty), then you will need to apply the same thing on that line, as well. Marko. -Original Message- From: Kenneth Yeung [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: manudagur, 13. mam 2002. 09:04 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Need help on crtl-shift-6 [7:43844] Marko, I perform line con 0 escape-character 27 The crt-shift-6 x not working anymore. The Esc key not working as well. Do you have some doc. about this? Thanks! Kenneth Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44012t=43844 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ISDN dial-in [7:44013]
I am trying to set a router with ISDN BRI to answer calls originated from a PC using ISDN line, Here is my configuration, but it seems not working, any suggestions? interface BRI0/0 ip unnumbered Loopback1 encapsulation ppp dialer idle-timeout 7200 isdn switch-type basic-net3 isdn all-incoming-calls-v120 no cdp enable ppp authentication pap ppp multilink Thanks Osama Kamal Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44013t=44013 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]
Kenny, The 3550 series supports layer 3 out of the box. So the ports can be configured like router ports (with an address on each interface), with each port in it's own b'cast domain. Alternately, the ports can be configured normally e.g. all in the same b'cast domain. You can also do intervlan routing by creating virtual interfaces, similar to an MSFC. These switches are very flexible in their Config (and run traditional 29xx/35xx Switch IOS, rather than the oddball IOS that the 2948G-L3 ran). As far as why port one is showing no switchport, you stated that the gig slot interfaces were 0/12 and 0/13 correct? That would give you 13 ports rather than 12. Perhaps GIG 0/1 represents the controller for the RJ-45 ports and not a physical port? I've seen this sort of thing before (think catalyst 4000 Layer 3 engine). Hope this helps. Chris Supino CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA, ASE Senior Network Design Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenny Smith Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009] Hi.. We just bought a cisco 3550 switch and it has 2 gigabyte fiber ports 12, 13 and 10 gigabyte fastethernet ports 1-10. But why they are all shown to be the same for eg interface GigabitEthernet0/1-12 in the config. And What kind of cable should I connected to port 1-10? Cat5 or Cat6? If we connected via Cat5 it means the speed is 1000Mbit?? I also feel strange that why the config shown as no ip address in all the interface, I thought we can only configure IP for VLAN in switches not interface? What is means by no switchport?? hostname Switch ! enable secret 5 $1$ej9.$DMUvAUnZOAmvmgqBEzIxE0 ! interface GigabitEthernet0/1 no switchport no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/2 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/3 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/4 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/5 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/6 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/7 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/8 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/9 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/10 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/11 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/12 no ip address ...! interface VLAN1 ip address 172.20.137.50 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast ip nat outside _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44014t=44009 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
It's probably worth distinguishing between IGRP the rest of the set of proprietary cisco technologies, since they are more than eager to distance themselves from any of the features of IGRP that were overridden by EIGRP. As for impossibility, that's probably a question of the skill set possessed by the technical folk charged with reverse engineering the IOS code. Few vendors are bold enough to claim such interoperability without a formal exchange between their legal representation whomever performs that role for cisco. - Original Message - From: nrf To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:02 AM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso box lying around that I can actually experiment with. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability with Cisco? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44015t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Self Test Software [7:43987]
I did my CNE with em, good engines Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44017t=43987 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]
I have a few of these. as Chris mentioned, very flexible switch, and each port can be configured as router ports. My versions come with 2 Copper Gigaport and 10 GBIC ports, you can use Cat5E or Cat6 on those giga ports for 1000base speeds, or GBICS in your for fibre giga(depending on the model) The router supports everything a switch has, plus that of a router. Full support for all the routing protocols and tonnes of memory. I've had etherchannel and trunking running on these no worries (watch DTP here as you need to set it to ON when using 3548's and 2950s), you can set switchport access or switchport trunk on these, or use them like router ports with Ip's as Chris mentioned. Good switch, if you need a hand with it, [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH Cheers Kris CCNP,CNE,CCIE(w) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44016t=44009 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Study Guide [7:43932]
I felt this book didnt stress BGP enough Know BGP inside out for this Exam Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44018t=43932 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
nrf wrote: vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you I know that Netscout probes are identified as CDP neighbors. Not sure that I remember seeing anything else identified as such though. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44019t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
link utilisation [7:44020]
Hi, Can anybody tell me how to calculate traffic of different application on a WAN link means which application is utilising what percentage of link. Regards __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44020t=44020 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021]
Hi all, Does anybody know where I can buy a 19 inch rack 10-12RU (maybe with wheels) for my homelab ?? Have 7 Routers and a 2901 that are staying arround on the floor. I live in germany, so would be great if someone knows an european or german vendor. Don't want the americans to ship a 30kg packet to europe :) Thanks a lot monti Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44021t=44021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Undeliverable mail--HSRP and consecutive addressing [7:44022]
The following mail can't be sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: HSRP and consecutive addressing The attachment is the original mail Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44022t=44022 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: NAT configuration for 2 service providers [7:43820]
Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44023t=43820 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021]
Check out APCthey have 21U enclosures with wheels. Sincerely, Patrick J Greene -Original Message- From: Antonio Montana [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:51 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021] Hi all, Does anybody know where I can buy a 19 inch rack 10-12RU (maybe with wheels) for my homelab ?? Have 7 Routers and a 2901 that are staying arround on the floor. I live in germany, so would be great if someone knows an european or german vendor. Don't want the americans to ship a 30kg packet to europe :) Thanks a lot monti Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44024t=44021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021]
Check out your local music stores/web sites. Most pro outboard effects are in 19 inch format and most bands play with a small portable rack (either on stage or with their sound engineer(s). In the UK I use this site - http://www.studiospares.com/category.asp?gid=6gtitle=Racks%20%20Acoustics HTH Dom Stocqueler. Antonio Montana Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 12:50 Please respond to Antonio Montana To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:OT: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021] Hi all, Does anybody know where I can buy a 19 inch rack 10-12RU (maybe with wheels) for my homelab ?? Have 7 Routers and a 2901 that are staying arround on the floor. I live in germany, so would be great if someone knows an european or german vendor. Don't want the americans to ship a 30kg packet to europe :) Thanks a lot monti Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44025t=44021 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
At 4:02 AM -0400 5/13/02, nrf wrote: In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? I'd be very surprised if another vendor simply reverse-engineered IGRP, because Cisco has some patents on it. Given how aggressive they are in protecting their trademarks, I'd be amazed if their legal staff wouldn't pounce on someone doing so. When it was first becoming obvious that RIP wouldn't scale to the networks then under development, Cisco very reasonably started developing IGRP. It's generally believed that they offered it to the IETF as a potential standard, but other vendors did not want to let something become standard with Cisco's experience base in place. So, the IETF effort for a second-generation standard protocol was politically motivated to be non-IGRP, and would up being OSPF. ISIS existed at the time, but at that point, there were political wars between the OSI and IETF people. While I haven't seen an IETF proposal, I have the impression that Cisco is being much more open about licensing CDP (although obviously it will have to be called something else as a standard), or using it as the base for some other protocol. It does do something generally useful. There's certainly precedent, because HSRP really derives from a DEC protocol (whose name escapes me) that was used in VAXclusters, and VRRP is very, very close to HSRP but multivendor. -- What Problem are you trying to solve? ***send Cisco questions to the list, so all can benefit -- not directly to me*** Howard C. Berkowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Chief Technology Officer, GettLab/Gett Communications http://www.gettlabs.com Technical Director, CertificationZone.com http://www.certificationzone.com retired Certified Cisco Systems Instructor (CID) #93005 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44026t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Nat on 1605 [7:44027]
hi i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and any time i try to enter the comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the command i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T Thanks akin Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44027t=44027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986]
ip address outside 4.1.1.1 255.255.255.252 nat (inside) 1 0 0 global (outside) interface static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 25 10.1.1.1 25 netmask 255.255.255.255 static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 80 10.1.1.2 80 netmask 255.255.255.255 You can't have a secondary ip address on the PIX. Using example above, you have only One public ip address assigned to the outside interface and do a PAT and static nat for your servers... -- Lidiya White -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986] I am trying to configure my new PIX 501 with a static IP address for translation to inside email and web servers. When I use the one static address assigned by the ISP, I can no longer use the PAT for outbound access. How can I configure the PIX to support inbound translation as well as outbound translation using one external static IP? Is there a method to assign a secondary address (static) on the external interface and then set the interface for DHCP as well? Your help is greatly appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44028t=43986 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]
For NAT on version 11.3 it must be an ip plus IOS. I believe NAT was built into IP only around the 12.1 release --- mail wrote: hi i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and any time i try to enter the comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the command i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T Thanks akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44029t=44027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]
It only supports layer 3 out of the box if you buy the EMI, Enhanced Multilayer Software, SMI software does not. Dave Christopher Supino wrote: Kenny, The 3550 series supports layer 3 out of the box. So the ports can be configured like router ports (with an address on each interface), with each port in it's own b'cast domain. Alternately, the ports can be configured normally e.g. all in the same b'cast domain. You can also do intervlan routing by creating virtual interfaces, similar to an MSFC. These switches are very flexible in their Config (and run traditional 29xx/35xx Switch IOS, rather than the oddball IOS that the 2948G-L3 ran). As far as why port one is showing no switchport, you stated that the gig slot interfaces were 0/12 and 0/13 correct? That would give you 13 ports rather than 12. Perhaps GIG 0/1 represents the controller for the RJ-45 ports and not a physical port? I've seen this sort of thing before (think catalyst 4000 Layer 3 engine). Hope this helps. Chris Supino CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA, ASE Senior Network Design Engineer -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kenny Smith Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009] Hi.. We just bought a cisco 3550 switch and it has 2 gigabyte fiber ports 12, 13 and 10 gigabyte fastethernet ports 1-10. But why they are all shown to be the same for eg interface GigabitEthernet0/1-12 in the config. And What kind of cable should I connected to port 1-10? Cat5 or Cat6? If we connected via Cat5 it means the speed is 1000Mbit?? I also feel strange that why the config shown as no ip address in all the interface, I thought we can only configure IP for VLAN in switches not interface? What is means by no switchport?? hostname Switch ! enable secret 5 $1$ej9.$DMUvAUnZOAmvmgqBEzIxE0 ! interface GigabitEthernet0/1 no switchport no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/2 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/3 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/4 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/5 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/6 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/7 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/8 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/9 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/10 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/11 no ip address ! interface GigabitEthernet0/12 no ip address ...! interface VLAN1 ip address 172.20.137.50 255.255.255.0 no ip directed-broadcast ip nat outside _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44030t=44009 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
Hai, Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal approx. 30 to 35 mts. If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment... Thanks, Kiran Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44032t=44032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986]
Thanks for the reply. I have fixed the problem with additional external IPs. -Original Message- From: Lidiya White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:31 AM To: 'Andy Barkl'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986] Example: ip address outside 4.1.1.1 255.255.255.252 nat (inside) 1 0 0 global (outside) interface static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 25 10.1.1.1 25 netmask 255.255.255.255 static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 80 10.1.1.2 80 netmask 255.255.255.255 You can't have a secondary ip address on the PIX. Using example above, you have only One public ip address assigned to the outside interface and do a PAT and static nat for your servers... -- Lidiya White -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andy Barkl Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986] I am trying to configure my new PIX 501 with a static IP address for translation to inside email and web servers. When I use the one static address assigned by the ISP, I can no longer use the PAT for outbound access. How can I configure the PIX to support inbound translation as well as outbound translation using one external static IP? Is there a method to assign a secondary address (static) on the external interface and then set the interface for DHCP as well? Your help is greatly appreciated. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44033t=43986 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]
Thanks for the input how can i get this IOS thanks akin - Original Message - From: John Golovich To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027] For NAT on version 11.3 it must be an ip plus IOS. I believe NAT was built into IP only around the 12.1 release --- mail wrote: hi i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and any time i try to enter the comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the command i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T Thanks akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44035t=44027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Difference spantree root vs spantree p [7:43978]
It was also told to me (on the 5th day of christmas) that the set spantree root will dynamically decrement the spanning tree priority until that switch becomes the root bridge. Note, however, that the set spantree root command doesn't guarantee that the switch will become root. i.e. if two switches are using it. the priority will decrement to zero on both and we'll use another method to choose like MAC addresses. Thus spake someone to me. --Tim JohnZ wrote: Hi group, I am try to figure out what is the difference between the following two commands: set spantree root 5 set spantree priority 0 5 Do both of them provide the same results: set vlan 5 as the root bridge. Thanks. JZ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44036t=43978 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]
You will need to either purchase it from an authorized Cisco Reseller or download it from Ciscos site if you have a logon. --- mail wrote: Thanks for the input how can i get this IOS thanks akin - Original Message - From: John Golovich To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027] For NAT on version 11.3 it must be an ip plus IOS. I believe NAT was built into IP only around the 12.1 release --- mail wrote: hi i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and any time i try to enter the comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the command i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T Thanks akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44037t=44027 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
The theoretical v.35 cable distance is 4000 feet (1219.2 meters) at speeds up to 100 kbps. The longest v.35 cable I use is 10 feet. Depending on distance and speed required Pairgains to drive copper and Fiber Modems to drive fiber. At 35 meters you shouldn't have to implement those. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kiran Kumar M Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032] Hai, Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal approx. 30 to 35 mts. If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment... Thanks, Kiran Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44038t=44032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written Practice Questions [7:43893]
Yes, the CCIE Written Package from ccxxproductions.com is only $29.95. Shawn K. Disclaimer: I have written materials for CCxx Productions -Original Message- From: Mark Godfrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Practice Questions [7:43893] Can somebody recommend some good CCIE pratice questions. Preferably low cost as my company won't help pay for it. MG Network Engineer RoadRunner High Speed Online Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44034t=43893 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
Depends on the speed and you can often go further than the spec though you may not get vendor support if you do so and have issues. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/hw_inst/2600hig/2600ch2.htm#xtocid17 Dave Kiran Kumar M wrote: Hai, Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal approx. 30 to 35 mts. If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment... Thanks, Kiran -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44039t=44032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNP Study Guide [7:43932]
I believe it depends on the exam you get. My exam had very little BGP and EIGRP, but was loaded with OSPF. In my opinion, you really need to know them all equally well. Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Kris Keen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 7:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCNP Study Guide [7:43932] I felt this book didnt stress BGP enough Know BGP inside out for this Exam Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44040t=43932 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
Hai, Thank you for your quick response. I would like to have a speed of 256 Kbps to 512 Kbps. I would like to use copper, Does it support ?? What gauge is suggested ... Thanks, Kiran On Mon, 13 May 2002, Steve Watson wrote: The theoretical v.35 cable distance is 4000 feet (1219.2 meters) at speeds up to 100 kbps. The longest v.35 cable I use is 10 feet. Depending on distance and speed required Pairgains to drive copper and Fiber Modems to drive fiber. At 35 meters you shouldn't have to implement those. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kiran Kumar M Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032] Hai, Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal approx. 30 to 35 mts. If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment... Thanks, Kiran Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44041t=44032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]
Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router? ~~~ Michael Jablonski ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc. 161 North Clark St. 9th Flr Chicago, IL 60601-2468 PH: 312.884.2996 FAX: 312.278.5550 ~~~ This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. If you have received it by mistake please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this message in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (including its group companies) shall not be responsible nor liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (or its group companies) does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that this communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44042t=44042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
Hai, Thanks for your reply and link. What best we can do to support atleast 256 Kbps for 35 mts. in terms of cable gauge, etc... Thanks, Kiran On Mon, 13 May 2002, MADMAN wrote: Depends on the speed and you can often go further than the spec though you may not get vendor support if you do so and have issues. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/hw_inst/2600hig/2600ch2.htm#xtocid17 Dave Kiran Kumar M wrote: Hai, Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal approx. 30 to 35 mts. If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment... Thanks, Kiran Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44043t=44032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
Well, you can run 1.544 speed on copper which is a full T1. Copper can support speeds of fast Ethernet also. -Original Message- From: Kiran Kumar M [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032] Hai, Thank you for your quick response. I would like to have a speed of 256 Kbps to 512 Kbps. I would like to use copper, Does it support ?? What gauge is suggested ... Thanks, Kiran On Mon, 13 May 2002, Steve Watson wrote: The theoretical v.35 cable distance is 4000 feet (1219.2 meters) at speeds up to 100 kbps. The longest v.35 cable I use is 10 feet. Depending on distance and speed required Pairgains to drive copper and Fiber Modems to drive fiber. At 35 meters you shouldn't have to implement those. Steve -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kiran Kumar M Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:18 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032] Hai, Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal approx. 30 to 35 mts. If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment... Thanks, Kiran Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44045t=44032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ISDN dial-in [7:44013]
Did you define interesting traffic? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44046t=44013 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
I would first make a 2nd attempt to get closer. If this is not feasible then purchase a good quality cable and test it, it may very well work no problem. I recall running RS232 from old Cisco terminal servers at 9.6K a couple hunred feet no problem though the spec list 50 feet as the max. good luck. Dave Kiran Kumar M wrote: Hai, Thanks for your reply and link. What best we can do to support atleast 256 Kbps for 35 mts. in terms of cable gauge, etc... Thanks, Kiran On Mon, 13 May 2002, MADMAN wrote: Depends on the speed and you can often go further than the spec though you may not get vendor support if you do so and have issues. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/hw_inst/2600hig/2600ch2.htm#xtocid17 Dave Kiran Kumar M wrote: Hai, Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal approx. 30 to 35 mts. If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment... Thanks, Kiran -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44047t=44032 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Practice Questions [7:43893]
Thanks a bunch I will give it a shot:-) MG Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Yes, the CCIE Written Package from ccxxproductions.com is only $29.95. Shawn K. Disclaimer: I have written materials for CCxx Productions -Original Message- From: Mark Godfrey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 10, 2002 5:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written Practice Questions [7:43893] Can somebody recommend some good CCIE pratice questions. Preferably low cost as my company won't help pay for it. MG Network Engineer RoadRunner High Speed Online Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44044t=43893 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]
Hi all, Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back in October and have no idea what the password is. Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44049t=44049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: link utilisation [7:44020]
Ya I think it was cache-flow look it up on the Cisco site we used it allot when we were hit with the Code-red virus. Waqar Ahmed wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi, Can anybody tell me how to calculate traffic of different application on a WAN link means which application is utilising what percentage of link. Regards __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44053t=44020 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]
I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is not listed for the 1600 but is for the 1700. -Original Message- From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ADSL - WIC 1600 [7:44042] Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router? ~~~ Michael Jablonski ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc. 161 North Clark St. 9th Flr Chicago, IL 60601-2468 PH: 312.884.2996 FAX: 312.278.5550 ~~~ -- -- This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. If you have received it by mistake please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this message in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (including its group companies) shall not be responsible nor liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (or its group companies) does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that this communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. -- -- Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44054t=44042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BeachFrontDirect.com [7:44048]
Just wondering if anyone here has ever used BeachFrontQuizzer for test prep? Received a call from them about 20 minutes ago stating that they offered a no-pass money back guarntee and that they were a better test engine than Boson. Any help / advice would be appreciated. Thanks.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44048t=44048 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
Hi all, CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is connected to. For ex : RTR 1 -- RTR 2 1.544 Mbps64 Mbps int s0int s0 bandwidth 64 bandwidth 1544 My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing protocols like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the outgoing interfaces. Can somebody shed some light on this please? Thanks, Rajesh Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44055t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]
Did you try the default admin/admim Rah -Original Message- From: Johnson, Richard (NY Int) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 17:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049] Hi all, Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back in October and have no idea what the password is. Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44056t=44049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]
Looking through Cisco's site; they don't officially say you can use the ADSL wic in a 1600 (then again, they don't say you cannot). But I was wondering if there was any type of upgrade/patch that would work? -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:41 AM To: 'Jablonski, Michael'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ADSL - WIC 1600 [7:44042] I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is not listed for the 1600 but is for the 1700. -Original Message- From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 10:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ADSL - WIC 1600 [7:44042] Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router? ~~~ Michael Jablonski ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc. 161 North Clark St. 9th Flr Chicago, IL 60601-2468 PH: 312.884.2996 FAX: 312.278.5550 ~~~ -- -- This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. If you have received it by mistake please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this message in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (including its group companies) shall not be responsible nor liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (or its group companies) does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that this communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. -- -- This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. If you have received it by mistake please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this message in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (including its group companies) shall not be responsible nor liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (or its group companies) does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that this communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44058t=44042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]
Sorry missed the link on my last post http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/pswdrec_vpn3000.html Rah -Original Message- From: Johnson, Richard (NY Int) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 17:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049] Hi all, Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back in October and have no idea what the password is. Rich Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44057t=44049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]
Support (or lack thereof) would be an IOS issue. You might want to check the Release Notes for the latest IOS versions. About a year ago I stuck a ISDN BRI WIC in a 1604? that already had a built-in BRI port. The router wouldn't recognize it. @#!! My point being that just because it fits doesn't mean that it will function. -Original Message- From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Looking through Cisco's site; they don't officially say you can use the ADSL wic in a 1600 (then again, they don't say you cannot). But I was wondering if there was any type of upgrade/patch that would work? -Original Message- From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is not listed for the 1600 but is for the 1700. -Original Message- From: Jablonski, Michael Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44059t=44042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]
Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet ports? Either built in or modular. (if any of the older 25xx series have two aui ports, that would work as well!) I would also like to put IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as well. thanks, -Patrick Confidentiality Disclaimer This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44061t=44061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]
This may be a silly question but I'm tired of searching for the answer, so here's the question: Does a Windows client send unicast or broadcast packets when querying a DNS server(s)? The reason I'm asking is that I was looking through my old CID book and came across the statement that Windows clients send unicast packets to the WINS server at a well-known address. However, there is nothing regarding this when it comes to DNS. An Internet search came up with the same thing everywhere I looked: the Windows client sends a DNS query. What kind of query? Unicast or Broadcast? Shawn G. Kaminski EDS Network Engineering - DowNET Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44060t=44060 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]
-Original Message- From: Rah Hussain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 18:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049] Did you try the default admin/admim Rah -Original Message- From: Johnson, Richard (NY Int) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 17:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049] Hi all, Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back in October and have no idea what the password is. Rich ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. For more information contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone + 353 1 4093000 fax + 353 1 4093001 ** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44062t=44049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]
windows clients will actualy send unicast to ALL listed dns servers... Instead of quearying the first, timeout, second, timeout, etc They just assume all will time out and send it to all listed. but it is definately unicast. -Patrick Kaminski, Shawn G 05/13/02 01:11PM This may be a silly question but I'm tired of searching for the answer, so here's the question: Does a Windows client send unicast or broadcast packets when querying a DNS server(s)? The reason I'm asking is that I was looking through my old CID book and came across the statement that Windows clients send unicast packets to the WINS server at a well-known address. However, there is nothing regarding this when it comes to DNS. An Internet search came up with the same thing everywhere I looked: the Windows client sends a DNS query. What kind of query? Unicast or Broadcast? Shawn G. Kaminski EDS Network Engineering - DowNET Confidentiality Disclaimer This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44063t=44060 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never objected to it. EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-) On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP? Thx Priscilla At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote: In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso box lying around that I can actually experiment with. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability with Cisco? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44065t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]
And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-) Priscilla At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote: Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites. Here here and to add to that. ... a production network with 20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol, quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from whatever manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44066t=43969 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]
2514's have two ethernet ports... they are probably the cheapest 2 ethernet port routers. You could also go with a 4000 with a NP-2E but I think those are roughly 100-200 more then a 2514. HTH, Don Nguyen Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44069t=44061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]
WINS is the MS bastardization of DNS =P... but to answer your question windows uses unicast for dns query to a name server. I noticed that you refered to a WINS server in your question, WINS is used to netbios name resolution not dns name resolution. However, even here a windows client uses unicast when querying the WINS server. HTH, Don Nguyen Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44070t=44060 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: require module info on 3600 series router [7:43925]
Amir, you need NM-1CE1/PRI (one E1 port) or NM-2CE1/PRI (two E1 ports). Amir Aziz wrote: Hi everybody, I am here in Pakistan and we have E1 running at our ISP setup. OUR Telco provide E1 facility on G703/704I want to terminate these E1 lines directly into my router currently I am using CISCO 5300 for that purpose but I need compatiable module for my 3600 series routers as well can anyone tell me the module details or module number to use in my router I will be very thankful to the person/s. Regards, Amir Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44074t=43925 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]
The 2514 has two ether, two serial. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick Ramsey Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061] Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet ports? Either built in or modular. (if any of the older 25xx series have two aui ports, that would work as well!) I would also like to put IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as well. thanks, -Patrick Confidentiality Disclaimer This email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44071t=44061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44077]
Is there any website with certification statistics out there? I am wondering about how many CCNA's CCNP's and CCIE's there are out there. Any info would be great. Thank You Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44077t=44077 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44078]
Is there any website with certification statistics out there? I am wondering about how many CCNA's CCNP's and CCIE's there are out there. Any info would be great. Thank You Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44078t=44078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]
you have to rename the config file, there is a doc for it on the cco C -Original Message- From: Rah Hussain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 18:00 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049] Did you try the default admin/admim Rah -Original Message- From: Johnson, Richard (NY Int) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 17:28 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049] Hi all, Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back in October and have no idea what the password is. Rich ** This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. For more information contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] phone + 353 1 4093000 fax + 353 1 4093001 ** Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44075t=44049 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #2072 (Vacation) [7:44076]
I will be on vacation from 5-7-02 to 5-22-02. Any matter regarding network management please forward to Bob Taylor @ 213-979-0032. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44076t=44076 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]
The cheapest brand new Cisco router with two routable ethernet ports would be the Cisco 806. It looks like you can choose between IP/FW and IP PLUS for free on this platform. In terms of LIST price, the 1605-R ties with a 1721/WIC-1ENET combo. Either of these would leave you with a free WIC slot, but the 1721 would give you dot1q vlan routing and far greater performance. If you're looking for something used, there are more options, and prices will vary. :) Thanks, Shawn Patrick Ramsey wrote: Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet ports? Either built in or modular. (if any of the older 25xx series have two aui ports, that would work as well!) I would also like to put IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as well. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44080t=44061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Difference spantree root vs spantree priority [7:43978]
So if I have several switches and I want switch A to be the root of VLAN 5 would the command set spantree 5 on switch A make it the root. What if switch Z is added to the network, is there a chance that this switch under the right circumstances will become the root. I guess what I am trying to ask is how can I make sure that switch A will always stay the root bridge for VLAN 5. Also related to above, once I run set spantree root 5 will spanning tree protocol re-initialize and all the ports will go thru the different states of spanning tree. I am worried about all the servers and workstations that are connected to this switch. Will I need to reboot them. I hope I don't sound confusing, I am just trying to find the best way to do this at work. JohnZ wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi group, I am try to figure out what is the difference between the following two commands: set spantree root 5 set spantree priority 0 5 Do both of them provide the same results: set vlan 5 as the root bridge. Thanks. JZ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44079t=43978 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP). - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never objected to it. EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-) On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP? Thx Priscilla At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote: In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso box lying around that I can actually experiment with. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability with Cisco? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44081t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]
Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, did you change ANYTHING you get the answer, no. a long time later after you finally isloate the problem the customer says, oh I didn't THINK that would have any effect on... You want to say I didn't ask what changes you thought would cause the problem... Dave Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-) Priscilla At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote: Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites. Here here and to add to that. ... a production network with 20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol, quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from whatever manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44082t=43969 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BGP Multihoming Policy [7:43962]
I have a similar question, we're an ISP with our own ASN and we're multihomed to two Tier 1 providers, we'll call them ASN10 and ASN20. We have a customer that wants to use ASN20 symmetrically for their traffic while having ASN10 available in case of a failure. Would this be accomplished using route-maps? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44083t=43962 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
Rajesh, Correct... The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing protocols, like OSPF. OSPF looks at the cost of a link in determining best path. There's no direct correllation between bandwidth and cost. As for what to set bandwidth to, you set it on both ends of a connection based on the lower speed. As an example, if you had two routers connected via frame-relay, one of which utilized a T-1, and the other utilizing a 256k Fractional T-1, you should set the bandwidth to 256kbps. Most likely, you'd be terminating each PVC to it's own Serial sub-interface, so on the sub-interface, you'd set the bandwidth value to 256kbps (You may also consider basing the bandwidth assignment on CIR (Committed Information Rate), rather than the actual port speed). If, on the other hand, you were running OSPF, you'd simply adjust the ospf cost on each sub-interface. Alan - Original Message - From: Rajesh Kumar To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055] Hi all, CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is connected to. [snip] My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing protocols like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the outgoing interfaces. Can somebody shed some light on this please? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44084t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
At 02:44 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote: Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP). If it only covers distance-vector, then it could cover EIGRP also. EIGRP is also distance-vector. I don't think the test does cover it, but it's not because the test only covers distance-vector. It's probably because of all the extra features in EIGRP, such as the diffusing update algorithm (DUAL), with the feasible successors and all that other BS. Come to think of it, maybe I'm glad I don't have to cover it! ;-) - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never objected to it. EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-) On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP? Thx Priscilla At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote: In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso box lying around that I can actually experiment with. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability with Cisco? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44086t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44078]
Here is the link for CCIEs. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html C.Q.Nguyen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Roger Collum Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44078] Is there any website with certification statistics out there? I am wondering about how many CCNA's CCNP's and CCIE's there are out there. Any info would be great. Thank You Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44085t=44078 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]
Nope, 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700. Dave Jablonski, Michael wrote: Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router? ~~~ Michael Jablonski ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc. 161 North Clark St. 9th Flr Chicago, IL 60601-2468 PH: 312.884.2996 FAX: 312.278.5550 ~~~ This message (including any attachments) is confidential and may be privileged. If you have received it by mistake please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete this message from your system. Any unauthorized use or dissemination of this message in whole or in part is strictly prohibited. Please note that e-mails are susceptible to change. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (including its group companies) shall not be responsible nor liable for the proper and complete transmission of the information contained in this communication nor for any delay in its receipt or damage to your system. ABN AMRO Bank N.V. (or its group companies) does not guarantee that the integrity of this communication has been maintained nor that this communication is free of viruses, interceptions or interference. -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44072t=44042 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
OSPF cost is based on the bandwidth setting on Cisco routers. The cost of an interface defaults to 100,000,000 divided by the bandwidth for the interface. For example, a 100-Mbps Ethernet interface has a cost of 1. Priscilla At 03:06 PM 5/13/02, W. Alan Robertson wrote: Rajesh, Correct... The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing protocols, like OSPF. OSPF looks at the cost of a link in determining best path. There's no direct correllation between bandwidth and cost. As for what to set bandwidth to, you set it on both ends of a connection based on the lower speed. As an example, if you had two routers connected via frame-relay, one of which utilized a T-1, and the other utilizing a 256k Fractional T-1, you should set the bandwidth to 256kbps. Most likely, you'd be terminating each PVC to it's own Serial sub-interface, so on the sub-interface, you'd set the bandwidth value to 256kbps (You may also consider basing the bandwidth assignment on CIR (Committed Information Rate), rather than the actual port speed). If, on the other hand, you were running OSPF, you'd simply adjust the ospf cost on each sub-interface. Alan - Original Message - From: Rajesh Kumar To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:54 PM Subject: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055] Hi all, CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is connected to. [snip] My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing protocols like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the outgoing interfaces. Can somebody shed some light on this please? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44087t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]
Patrick Ramsey wrote: Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet ports? Either built in or modular. (if any of the older 25xx series have two aui ports, that would work as well!) I would also like to put IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as well. If you can get one (off Ebay, say), a 2514 would do the trick (two AUI ports). Otherwise, a 1605R. Regards, Marco. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44064t=44061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]
2514's have fallen quite a bit on Ebay of late. They roughly the same as a 1605 nowdays. Figure right about 500ish.. my quick numbers show that the average price PAID on Ebay for the last 30 days is 409.00 MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44067t=44061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]
:) Larry Letterman Cisco Systems [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of MADMAN Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, did you change ANYTHING you get the answer, no. a long time later after you finally isloate the problem the customer says, oh I didn't THINK that would have any effect on... You want to say I didn't ask what changes you thought would cause the problem... Dave Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-) Priscilla At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote: Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites. Here here and to add to that. ... a production network with 20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol, quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from whatever manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44088t=43969 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: BeachFrontDirect.com [7:44048]
When I did my MCSE, I tried it. It had errors and I ended back with Trancenders. Just my opinion MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44068t=44048 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]
If all you need is 2 ethernet ports, and depending on your use for it, try to find a 3101. 2 ethernet, 0 serial, 1 Con, 1 Aux. They are fairly ancient, and not considered labworthy, but they (I think) can hold an IOS with the firewall set, and they can NAT. If they don't have the memory natively, it can always be upgraded. Oh, and since they were discontinued, they are cheap (when you can find them). --Tim Patrick Ramsey wrote: Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet ports? Either built in or modular. (if any of the older 25xx series have two aui ports, that would work as well!) I would also like to put IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as well. thanks, -Patrick Confidentiality DisclaimerThis email and any files transmitted with it may contain confidential and /or proprietary information in the possession of WellStar Health System, Inc. (WellStar) and is intended only for the individual or entity to whom addressed. This email may contain information that is held to be privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any unauthorized access, dissemination, distribution or copying of any information from this email is strictly prohibited, and may subject you to criminal and/or civil liability. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender by reply email and then delete this email and its attachments from your computer. Thank you. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44089t=44061 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2900 series swithc [7:44092]
Im trying to trunk a 2900 switch but does not have the switchport option ? Can the 2900 series handle trunking? Or only the 2900 xl? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44092t=44092 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]
Why would you have to set a DNS address or have it DHCP'd to you if you were going to broadcast the request? Unicast it is! --Tim Kaminski, Shawn G wrote: This may be a silly question but I'm tired of searching for the answer, so here's the question: Does a Windows client send unicast or broadcast packets when querying a DNS server(s)? The reason I'm asking is that I was looking through my old CID book and came across the statement that Windows clients send unicast packets to the WINS server at a well-known address. However, there is nothing regarding this when it comes to DNS. An Internet search came up with the same thing everywhere I looked: the Windows client sends a DNS query. What kind of query? Unicast or Broadcast? Shawn G. Kaminski EDS Network Engineering - DowNET Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44090t=44060 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP study material? [7:44091]
I have seen the CCNP certification library and i've seen the CCNP preparation library and each have the 4 books for CCNP. My question is which one is better to study from? There is quite a considerable difference in the pricing of the library's. Anyone? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44091t=44091 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
W. Alan Robertson 5/13/02 1:06:25 PM Rajesh, Correct... The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing protocols, like OSPF. OSPF looks at the cost of a link in determining best path. There's no direct correllation between bandwidth and cost. There isn't? How does OSPF determine the cost of a link? Regards, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44093t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]
Doh ;-) Rah -Original Message- From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 13 May 2002 19:58 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969] Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, did you change ANYTHING you get the answer, no. a long time later after you finally isloate the problem the customer says, oh I didn't THINK that would have any effect on... You want to say I didn't ask what changes you thought would cause the problem... Dave Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-) Priscilla At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote: Larry Letterman wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites. Here here and to add to that. ... a production network with 20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol, quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from whatever manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc Mike W. Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44095t=43969 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
Please reference Doyle Episode 1 bottom of pg 485 and you will see how bandwidth and costs relate. -Original Message- From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055] W. Alan Robertson 5/13/02 1:06:25 PM Rajesh, Correct... The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing protocols, like OSPF. OSPF looks at the cost of a link in determining best path. There's no direct correllation between bandwidth and cost. There isn't? How does OSPF determine the cost of a link? Regards, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44097t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
Revise and extend: There is no direct correlation between the values of the interface bandwidth and the ospf cost commands. OSPF does not examine the interface bandwidth statement, nor does EIGRP examine the interface ospf cost statement. I didn't mean to suggest that OSPF cost isn't related to bandwidth... I should have written more clearly. :) I yield the balance of my time... - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: ; Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055] W. Alan Robertson 5/13/02 1:06:25 PM Rajesh, Correct... The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing protocols, like OSPF. OSPF looks at the cost of a link in determining best path. There's no direct correllation between bandwidth and cost. There isn't? How does OSPF determine the cost of a link? Regards, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44096t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Certification Shelf Life [7:44098]
How long once you have passed do you have to re-certify? This being after passsing both the written and the Lab. Is it good for life? Or was it every 5 years need to go take a written only? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44098t=44098 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
Forgot to send this to list as well. - Original Message - From: Mike Mandulak To: Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Lammle refers to EIGRP as being a Hybrid of distance-vector and link state. He only gives a brief mention of EIGRP and says to refer to the CCNP study guide for more info. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] At 02:44 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote: Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP). If it only covers distance-vector, then it could cover EIGRP also. EIGRP is also distance-vector. I don't think the test does cover it, but it's not because the test only covers distance-vector. It's probably because of all the extra features in EIGRP, such as the diffusing update algorithm (DUAL), with the feasible successors and all that other BS. Come to think of it, maybe I'm glad I don't have to cover it! ;-) - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never objected to it. EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-) On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP? Thx Priscilla At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote: In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso
RE: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
You're right about IGRP still being listed on the CCNA objectives. While I've sometimes found it frustrating to teach an outdated protocol, IGRP is useful as a teaching tool. With IGRP you can easily demonstrate the concept of composite metrics, poison reverse, holddown timers, split horizon, and unequal-cost load balancing, but you don't have multicast updates, neighbor relationships, incremental updates, and VLSM's adding to the confusion. If EIGRP replaces IGRP on the CCNA, then hopefully the certification team will draw a clear line indicating which features of eigrp will be tested and which ones won't. The way things are right now, IGRP makes for a smooth transition from the CCNA to the CCNP Routing exam. Someone who understands IGRP doesn't need to reinvent the wheel to learn EIGRP, and once one has supernetting and neighbor relationships in his or her belt, they can deal with OSPF area types and LSA's and the like. Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP:Voice Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty Computing Engineering Technology Manatee Community College -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never objected to it. EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-) On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP? Thx Priscilla At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote: In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement), but I'm talking about full-blown vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco. For example, does anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP? Or CDP? Now you might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP? JMcL - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm - nrf Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 13/05/2002 01:42 pm Please respond to nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Is this part of a business decision process?: Just found this while surfing around. As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and BGP4 for unicast traffic... http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP is proprietary to Cisco. Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in fact support IGRP. What's up with that? Unfortunately I don't have an Ipso box lying around that I can actually experiment with. Can anyone confirm whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability with Cisco? Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44101t=43994 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info:
Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
In a roundabout fashion I was attempting to point out that this is partially incorrect. You can change the OSPF cost on an interface by either adding the ospf cost command or by tweaking the bandwidth statement. By default, the OSPF cost for an interface is (10^8)/bandwidth. If you manipulate the bandwidth statement you change the OSPF metric. This is precisely why if you're running OSPF and EIGRP concurrently and you want to adjust the EIGRP metrics without affecting the OSPF metrics you should adjust the interface delay parameter, not the bandwidth. If you were to change the bandwidth parameter you would change both the OSPF and EIGRP metrics. HTH, John W. Alan Robertson 5/13/02 2:04:57 PM Revise and extend: There is no direct correlation between the values of the interface bandwidth and the ospf cost commands. OSPF does not examine the interface bandwidth statement, nor does EIGRP examine the interface ospf cost statement. I didn't mean to suggest that OSPF cost isn't related to bandwidth... I should have written more clearly. :) I yield the balance of my time... - Original Message - From: John Neiberger To: ; Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055] W. Alan Robertson 5/13/02 1:06:25 PM Rajesh, Correct... The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing protocols, like OSPF. OSPF looks at the cost of a link in determining best path. There's no direct correllation between bandwidth and cost. There isn't? How does OSPF determine the cost of a link? Regards, John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44102t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Certification Shelf Life [7:44098]
Two years.. See: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/recertifications/recertification.html (watch for wrap) Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44103t=44098 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
At 04:13 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote: Lammle refers to EIGRP as being a Hybrid of distance-vector and link state. That's wrong. EIGRP is not link-state in any way. EIGRP calculates a flat routing table that lists networks, distance, and next hop (distance vectors). If the list contains multiple entries for a destination (because there are multiple ways to reach the destination), the entries are sorted by metric and the one with the lowest metric is selected. This is very different than how a link-state protocol functions. A link-state routing protocol creates a mathematical graph that depicts the network. A link-state protocol implements a sophisticated process, called the Dijkstra algorithm, to determine the shortest path to all points in the graph when the nodes and links in the graph are known. Link-state has a specific meaning to computer scientists. You'll find a lot of good stuff about it if you search with Google. A lot of it is not related to routing protocols. EIGRP does have some features that make it different from other distance-vector protocols. Although EIGRP still sends vectors with distance information, the updates are non-periodic, partial, and bounded. Non-periodic means that updates are sent only when a metric changes rather than at regular intervals. Partial means that updates include only routes that have changed, not every entry in the routing table. Bounded means that updates are sent only to affected routers. These behaviors mean that EIGRP uses very little bandwidth. EIGRP also determines a feasible successor, which other distance-vector protocols don't do. Its complex metric is also a feature not found in many other distance-vector algorithms, (except IGRP of course). Please do not send messages to me directly, especially not to quote Lammle CCNA fluff. Priscilla He only gives a brief mention of EIGRP and says to refer to the CCNP study guide for more info. - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:19 PM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] At 02:44 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote: Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP). If it only covers distance-vector, then it could cover EIGRP also. EIGRP is also distance-vector. I don't think the test does cover it, but it's not because the test only covers distance-vector. It's probably because of all the extra features in EIGRP, such as the diffusing update algorithm (DUAL), with the feasible successors and all that other BS. Come to think of it, maybe I'm glad I don't have to cover it! ;-) - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994] Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never objected to it. EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-) On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP? Thx Priscilla At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote: In-line wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. I can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week. That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually seen a bonafide production network running IGRP. So it makes sense that Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood. But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install a mixed Cisco/Nokia IGRP network. No, I'm asking because if it's true that Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too? I'm not talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an agreement to provide its
Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]
Setting the bandwidth would affect OSPF also. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, though. You probably wouldn't be running both routing protocols on the same interface, for one thing. But if you were, then you would want them both to use a metric that's based on the actual bandwidth for the path. That sounds like good advice from the CCIE Practical Studies book. It brings up a subtle point, in addition to the one you pointed out. The outgoing interface may have a different level of bandwidth than the incoming interface of the router on the other end of a circuit, in some implementations. A good example might be a Frame Relay hub-and-spoke design. The hub has a larger pipe than the spoke. Priscilla At 12:54 PM 5/13/02, Rajesh Kumar wrote: Hi all, CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is connected to. For ex : RTR 1 -- RTR 2 1.544 Mbps64 Mbps int s0int s0 bandwidth 64 bandwidth 1544 My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing protocols like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the outgoing interfaces. Can somebody shed some light on this please? Thanks, Rajesh Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=44106t=44055 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]