Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco 
will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases.  I 
can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain 
of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week.

JMcL
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Is this part of a business decision process?: 


Just found this while surfing around.

As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of
IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and
BGP4 for unicast traffic...
http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html

Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP
is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in
fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't have an 
Ipso
box lying around that I can actually experiment with.  Can anyone confirm
whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability 
with
Cisco?




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BSCI-640-900 [7:44001]

2002-05-13 Thread fahim

Hi Group
Is there any Cisco Press Book/Exam Certification Guide available for 640-900
exam, or any other publications? I've searched in ciscopress.com and other
website, there aren't any..If anyone has given the above exam, pls throw
some light (how did u prepare?)

Fahim




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Terminal Server load balancing [7:44002]

2002-05-13 Thread Cisco Breaker

Hi,

We have implemented load balancing between 5 microsoft terminal servers. The
problem is when I looked at the second server I see 5 people connected but
from the CSS view there is only 2 people connected. We tried this example
with clearing counters on CSS and restarting all terminal servers to make
sure everyone disconnected. After that again we check the statistics and
nothing changed. For ex. Cisco shows 4 Microsoft shows 8.

All the statistic gathered by issuing sh service summary and sh summary are
not accurate as Microsoft Terminal Server Managers.

What can be the problem?

Any help will be appreciated?

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Re: BSCI-640-900 [7:44001]

2002-05-13 Thread Erwin

Try Cisco Press BSCN book and other Cisco Press books which cover the
additional materials, according to the Cisco 640-900 Exam Blue Print.

Sometimes you have to find the resources and compile it for yourself, rather
than waiting for the author to spoon-feed you. It is all in the exam blue
print

Good Luck

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 Is there any Cisco Press Book/Exam Certification Guide available for
640-900
 exam, or any other publications? I've searched in ciscopress.com and other
 website, there aren't any..If anyone has given the above exam, pls throw
 some light (how did u prepare?)

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GBICs [7:44004]

2002-05-13 Thread Mamoon Dawood

Dear All,

Does the new catalyst switches Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI and WS-C2950G-24-EI
support
WS-G5483 Gbics (The 1000BaseT GBIC),

Regards,
Mamoon




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Re: BSCI-640-900 [7:44001]

2002-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Oh come on!  You should know that!

 

Get the IS-IS network design book along with the BSCN book.

Read Doyle and then read Halabi.

 

If you have some decent experience with routing, you should pass with
ease.  just make sure you really do know IS-IS.

 

Theo

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Is there any Cisco Press Book/Exam Certification Guide available for
640-900
exam, or any other publications? I've searched in ciscopress.com and
other
website, there aren't any..If anyone has given the above exam, pls throw
some light (how did u prepare?)

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GBICs [7:44006]

2002-05-13 Thread Mamoon Dawood

Dear All,

Does the new catalyst switches Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI and WS-C2950G-24-EI
support
WS-G5483 Gbics (The 1000BaseT GBIC),

Regards,
Mamoon




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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread nrf

In-line
 wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco
 will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases.  I
 can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a grain
 of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week.

That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually
seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense that
Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.

But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install
a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's true that
Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other
supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm not
talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an
agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that
Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about full-blown
vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For example, does
anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?   Now you
might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these
technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so
why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?


 JMcL
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 nrf
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 cc:
 Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors?
 [7:43994]
 Is this part of a business decision process?:


 Just found this while surfing around.

 As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of
 IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and
 BGP4 for unicast traffic...
 http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html

 Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that IGRP
 is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in
 fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't have an
 Ipso
 box lying around that I can actually experiment with.  Can anyone confirm
 whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability
 with
 Cisco?




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RE: ATM interface [7:43596]

2002-05-13 Thread Elaluf Silvia

Hi
I found the source of the problem.
The interface slot seems not to be getting properly identifed in the reload
process:

%OIR-3-SEATED: Insert/removal failed (slot 2), check card seating
%OIR-3-SEATED: Insert/removal failed (slot 2), check card 

I am in the process of checking that the card is OK.

Silvia



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enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]

2002-05-13 Thread Kenny Smith

Hi..  We just bought a cisco 3550 switch  and it has 2 gigabyte fiber ports 
12, 13 and 10 gigabyte fastethernet ports 1-10.  But why they are all shown 
to be the same for eg  interface GigabitEthernet0/1-12 in the config. And 
What kind of cable should I connected to port 1-10? Cat5 or Cat6?  If we 
connected via Cat5 it means the speed is 1000Mbit??  I also feel strange 
that why the config shown as no ip address in all the interface, I thought 
we can only configure IP for VLAN in switches not interface?  What is means 
by no switchport??


hostname Switch
!
enable secret 5 $1$ej9.$DMUvAUnZOAmvmgqBEzIxE0
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
no switchport
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/3
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/4
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/5
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/6
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/7
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/8
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/9
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/10
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/11
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/12
no ip address

...!
interface VLAN1
ip address 172.20.137.50 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip nat outside




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RE: GBICs [7:44006]

2002-05-13 Thread Tim O'Brien

Mamoon,

Yes, this GBIC is fully supported in the Catalyst 6500, 4000, 3550 Series,
2950 Series, 3500 Series XL, and 2900 Series XL switches. The Catalyst 6500
and 4000 will support the new GBIC when the following software releases
become available in 2HFY02:
CatOS 7.2 - both Catalyst 6500 and 4000
CatIOS 12.1(13)E - Catalyst 6500 only

Tim
CCIE 9015

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Dear All,

Does the new catalyst switches Cisco WS-C2950G-48-EI and WS-C2950G-24-EI
support
WS-G5483 Gbics (The 1000BaseT GBIC),

Regards,
Mamoon




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RE: Need help on crtl-shift-6 [7:43844]

2002-05-13 Thread Kenneth Yeung

Marko,
I perform
line con 0 
escape-character 27 
The crt-shift-6 x not working anymore.  The Esc key not working as well.

Do you have some doc. about this?
Thanks!
Kenneth


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RE: Need help on crtl-shift-6 [7:43844]

2002-05-13 Thread Marko Milivojevic

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/ffun
_c/ffcprt1/fcf003.htm#xtocid7

[watch for line wrap]

Of course, this will work if you are logged on console. If you are
logged on the router through some other means (aux, vty), then you will need
to apply the same thing on that line, as well.


Marko.

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 Sent: manudagur, 13. mam 2002. 09:04
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Need help on crtl-shift-6 [7:43844]
 
 
 Marko,
 I perform
 line con 0 
 escape-character 27 
 The crt-shift-6 x not working anymore.  The Esc key not 
 working as well.
 
 Do you have some doc. about this?
 Thanks!
 Kenneth




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ISDN dial-in [7:44013]

2002-05-13 Thread Osama Kamal

I am trying to set a router with ISDN BRI to answer calls originated from a
PC using ISDN line, 

 

Here is my configuration, but it seems not working, any suggestions?

 

 

interface BRI0/0

 ip unnumbered Loopback1

 encapsulation ppp

 dialer idle-timeout 7200

 isdn switch-type basic-net3

 isdn all-incoming-calls-v120

 no cdp enable

 ppp authentication pap

 ppp multilink

 

 

 

 

Thanks

Osama Kamal




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RE: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]

2002-05-13 Thread Christopher Supino

Kenny,

The 3550 series supports layer 3 out of the box. So the ports can be
configured like router ports (with an address on each interface), with
each port in it's own b'cast domain. Alternately, the ports can be
configured normally e.g. all in the same b'cast domain. You can also
do intervlan routing by creating virtual interfaces, similar to an MSFC.
These switches are very flexible in their Config (and run traditional
29xx/35xx Switch IOS, rather than the oddball IOS that the 2948G-L3
ran). As far as why port one is showing no switchport, you stated that
the gig slot interfaces were 0/12 and 0/13 correct? That would give you
13 ports rather than 12. Perhaps GIG 0/1 represents the controller for
the RJ-45 ports and not a physical port? I've seen this sort of thing
before (think catalyst 4000 Layer 3 engine). Hope this helps.

Chris Supino
CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA, ASE
Senior Network Design Engineer

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Kenny Smith
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]

Hi..  We just bought a cisco 3550 switch  and it has 2 gigabyte fiber
ports 
12, 13 and 10 gigabyte fastethernet ports 1-10.  But why they are all
shown 
to be the same for eg  interface GigabitEthernet0/1-12 in the config.
And 
What kind of cable should I connected to port 1-10? Cat5 or Cat6?  If we

connected via Cat5 it means the speed is 1000Mbit??  I also feel strange

that why the config shown as no ip address in all the interface, I
thought 
we can only configure IP for VLAN in switches not interface?  What is
means 
by no switchport??


hostname Switch
!
enable secret 5 $1$ej9.$DMUvAUnZOAmvmgqBEzIxE0
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/1
no switchport
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/2
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/3
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/4
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/5
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/6
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/7
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/8
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/9
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/10
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/11
no ip address
!
interface GigabitEthernet0/12
no ip address

...!
interface VLAN1
ip address 172.20.137.50 255.255.255.0
no ip directed-broadcast
ip nat outside




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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Kevin Cullimore

It's probably worth distinguishing between IGRP  the rest of the set of
proprietary cisco technologies, since they are more than eager to distance
themselves from any of the features of IGRP that were overridden by EIGRP.
As for impossibility, that's probably a question of the skill set possessed
by the technical folk charged with reverse engineering the IOS code. Few
vendors are bold enough to claim such interoperability without a formal
exchange between their legal representation  whomever performs that role
for cisco.


- Original Message -
From: nrf 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:02 AM
Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]


 In-line
  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that
Cisco
  will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases.  I
  can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a
grain
  of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week.

 That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've
actually
 seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense that
 Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.

 But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to
install
 a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's true
that
 Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other
 supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm not
 talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has
an
 agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that
 Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about full-blown
 vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For example,
does
 anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?   Now
you
 might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these
 technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP,
so
 why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?

 
  JMcL
  - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm -
 
 
  nrf
  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  13/05/2002 01:42 pm
  Please respond to nrf
 
 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:
  Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors?
  [7:43994]
  Is this part of a business decision process?:
 
 
  Just found this while surfing around.
 
  As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of
  IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF
and
  BGP4 for unicast traffic...
  http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html
 
  Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that
IGRP
  is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they
in
  fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't have an
  Ipso
  box lying around that I can actually experiment with.  Can anyone
confirm
  whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability
  with
  Cisco?




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Re: Self Test Software [7:43987]

2002-05-13 Thread Kris Keen

I did my CNE with em, good engines


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RE: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]

2002-05-13 Thread Kris Keen

I have a few of these. as Chris mentioned, very flexible switch, and each
port can be configured as router ports.


My versions come with 2 Copper Gigaport and 10 GBIC ports, you can use Cat5E
or Cat6 on those giga ports for 1000base speeds, or GBICS in your for fibre
giga(depending on the model)

The router supports everything a switch has, plus that of a router. Full
support for all the routing protocols and tonnes of memory. I've had
etherchannel and trunking running on these no worries (watch DTP here as you
need to set it to ON when using 3548's and 2950s), you can set switchport
access or switchport trunk on these, or use them like router ports with Ip's
as Chris mentioned.

Good switch, if you need a hand with it, [EMAIL PROTECTED]

HTH

Cheers
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RE: CCNP Study Guide [7:43932]

2002-05-13 Thread Kris Keen

I felt this book didnt stress BGP enough
Know BGP inside out for this Exam


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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Frank Merrill

nrf wrote:
 


 vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For
 example, does
 anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or
 CDP?   Now you

I know that Netscout probes are identified as CDP neighbors.
Not sure that I remember seeing anything else identified as such though.





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link utilisation [7:44020]

2002-05-13 Thread Waqar Ahmed

Hi,

Can anybody tell me how to calculate traffic of
different application on a WAN link means which
application is utilising what percentage of link.

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OT: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021]

2002-05-13 Thread Antonio Montana

Hi all,

Does anybody know where I can buy a 19 inch rack 10-12RU (maybe with wheels)
for my homelab ??
Have 7 Routers and a 2901 that are staying arround on the floor.

I live in germany, so would be great if someone knows an european or german
vendor.

Don't want the americans to ship a 30kg packet to europe :)

Thanks a lot
monti






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Undeliverable mail--HSRP and consecutive addressing [7:44022]

2002-05-13 Thread postmaster

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RE: NAT configuration for 2 service providers [7:43820]

2002-05-13 Thread brahmam lv

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RE: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021]

2002-05-13 Thread Greene, Patrick

Check out APCthey have 21U enclosures with wheels.

Sincerely,
Patrick J Greene


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Hi all,

Does anybody know where I can buy a 19 inch rack 10-12RU (maybe with
wheels) for my homelab ?? Have 7 Routers and a 2901 that are staying
arround on the floor.

I live in germany, so would be great if someone knows an european or
german vendor.

Don't want the americans to ship a 30kg packet to europe :)

Thanks a lot
monti




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Re: OT: 19 Rack for 6-8 Routers [7:44021]

2002-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Check out your local music stores/web sites. Most pro outboard effects are 
in 19 inch format and most bands play with a small portable rack (either 
on stage or with their sound engineer(s).


In the UK I use this site -

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Hi all,

Does anybody know where I can buy a 19 inch rack 10-12RU (maybe with 
wheels)
for my homelab ??
Have 7 Routers and a 2901 that are staying arround on the floor.

I live in germany, so would be great if someone knows an european or 
german
vendor.

Don't want the americans to ship a 30kg packet to europe :)

Thanks a lot
monti




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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

At 4:02 AM -0400 5/13/02, nrf wrote:
In-line
  wrote in message
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  Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco
  will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases.  I
  can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a
grain
  of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week.

That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually
seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense that
Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.

But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install
a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's true that
Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other
supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm not
talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an
agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that
Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about full-blown
vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For example, does
anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?   Now you
might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these
technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so
why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?


I'd be very surprised if another vendor simply reverse-engineered 
IGRP, because Cisco has some patents on it.  Given how aggressive 
they are in protecting their trademarks, I'd be amazed if their legal 
staff wouldn't pounce on someone doing so.

When it was first becoming obvious that RIP wouldn't scale to the 
networks then under development, Cisco very reasonably started 
developing IGRP.  It's generally believed that they offered it to the 
IETF as a potential standard, but other vendors did not want to let 
something become standard with Cisco's experience base in place.  So, 
the IETF effort for a second-generation standard protocol was 
politically motivated to be non-IGRP, and would up being OSPF.  ISIS 
existed at the time, but at that point, there were political wars 
between the OSI and IETF people.

While I haven't seen an IETF proposal, I have the impression that 
Cisco is being much more open about licensing CDP (although obviously 
it will have to be called something else as a standard), or using it 
as the base for some other protocol. It does do something generally 
useful.

There's certainly precedent, because HSRP really derives from a DEC 
protocol (whose name escapes me) that was used in VAXclusters, and 
VRRP is very, very close to HSRP but multivendor.
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Nat on 1605 [7:44027]

2002-05-13 Thread mail

hi
i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and any time i try to enter the
comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the command
i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T
Thanks
akin




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RE: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986]

2002-05-13 Thread Lidiya White

ip address outside 4.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
nat (inside) 1 0 0
global (outside) interface
static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 25 10.1.1.1 25 netmask
255.255.255.255
static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 80 10.1.1.2 80 netmask
255.255.255.255


You can't have a secondary ip address on the PIX. 
Using example above, you have only One public ip address assigned to the
outside interface and do a PAT and static nat for your servers...


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Subject: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986]

I am trying to configure my new PIX 501 with a static IP address for
translation to inside email and web servers. When I use the one static
address assigned by the ISP, I can no longer use the PAT for outbound
access. 

How can I configure the PIX to support inbound translation as well as
outbound translation using one external static IP? Is there a method to
assign a secondary address (static) on the external interface and then
set the interface for DHCP as well?

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Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]

2002-05-13 Thread John Golovich

For NAT on version 11.3 it must be an ip plus IOS.

I believe NAT was built into IP only around the 12.1
release

--- mail  wrote:
 hi
 i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and any
 time i try to enter the
 comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the command
 i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T
 Thanks
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Re: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]

2002-05-13 Thread MADMAN

It only supports layer 3 out of the box if you buy the EMI, Enhanced
Multilayer Software, SMI software does not.

  Dave

Christopher Supino wrote:
 
 Kenny,
 
 The 3550 series supports layer 3 out of the box. So the ports can be
 configured like router ports (with an address on each interface), with
 each port in it's own b'cast domain. Alternately, the ports can be
 configured normally e.g. all in the same b'cast domain. You can also
 do intervlan routing by creating virtual interfaces, similar to an MSFC.
 These switches are very flexible in their Config (and run traditional
 29xx/35xx Switch IOS, rather than the oddball IOS that the 2948G-L3
 ran). As far as why port one is showing no switchport, you stated that
 the gig slot interfaces were 0/12 and 0/13 correct? That would give you
 13 ports rather than 12. Perhaps GIG 0/1 represents the controller for
 the RJ-45 ports and not a physical port? I've seen this sort of thing
 before (think catalyst 4000 Layer 3 engine). Hope this helps.
 
 Chris Supino
 CCNP, CCDP, MCSE, CNA, ASE
 Senior Network Design Engineer
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Kenny Smith
 Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:24 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: enquiry on Cisco 3550 switch [7:44009]
 
 Hi..  We just bought a cisco 3550 switch  and it has 2 gigabyte fiber
 ports
 12, 13 and 10 gigabyte fastethernet ports 1-10.  But why they are all
 shown
 to be the same for eg  interface GigabitEthernet0/1-12 in the config.
 And
 What kind of cable should I connected to port 1-10? Cat5 or Cat6?  If we
 
 connected via Cat5 it means the speed is 1000Mbit??  I also feel strange
 
 that why the config shown as no ip address in all the interface, I
 thought
 we can only configure IP for VLAN in switches not interface?  What is
 means
 by no switchport??
 
 hostname Switch
 !
 enable secret 5 $1$ej9.$DMUvAUnZOAmvmgqBEzIxE0
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/1
 no switchport
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/2
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/3
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/4
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/5
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/6
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/7
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/8
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/9
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/10
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/11
 no ip address
 !
 interface GigabitEthernet0/12
 no ip address
 
 ...!
 interface VLAN1
 ip address 172.20.137.50 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 ip nat outside
 
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What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

2002-05-13 Thread Kiran Kumar M

Hai,

Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35
signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal  approx. 30 to 35 mts.

If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment...

Thanks,
Kiran




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RE: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986]

2002-05-13 Thread Andy Barkl

Thanks for the reply. I have fixed the problem with additional external
IPs.


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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 6:31 AM
To: 'Andy Barkl'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986]

Example:

ip address outside 4.1.1.1 255.255.255.252
nat (inside) 1 0 0
global (outside) interface
static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 25 10.1.1.1 25 netmask
255.255.255.255
static (inside,outside) tcp 4.1.1.1 80 10.1.1.2 80 netmask
255.255.255.255


You can't have a secondary ip address on the PIX. 
Using example above, you have only One public ip address assigned to the
outside interface and do a PAT and static nat for your servers...


-- Lidiya White

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Andy Barkl
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2002 7:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: PIX 501 and interface secondary IP [7:43986]

I am trying to configure my new PIX 501 with a static IP address for
translation to inside email and web servers. When I use the one static
address assigned by the ISP, I can no longer use the PAT for outbound
access. 

How can I configure the PIX to support inbound translation as well as
outbound translation using one external static IP? Is there a method to
assign a secondary address (static) on the external interface and then
set the interface for DHCP as well?

Your help is greatly appreciated.




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Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]

2002-05-13 Thread mail

Thanks for the input
how can i get this IOS
thanks
akin
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To: 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:54 AM
Subject: Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]


 For NAT on version 11.3 it must be an ip plus IOS.

 I believe NAT was built into IP only around the 12.1
 release

 --- mail  wrote:
  hi
  i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and any
  time i try to enter the
  comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the command
  i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T
  Thanks
  akin
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RE: Difference spantree root vs spantree p [7:43978]

2002-05-13 Thread timothy thielen

It was also told to me (on the 5th day of christmas) that the set spantree
root will dynamically decrement the spanning tree priority until that
switch becomes the root bridge.

Note, however, that the set spantree root command doesn't guarantee that
the switch will become root.  i.e.  if two switches are using it.  the
priority will decrement to zero on both and we'll use another method to
choose like MAC addresses.

Thus spake someone to me.

--Tim

JohnZ wrote:
 
 Hi group, I am try to figure out what is the difference between
 the
 following two commands:
 
 set spantree root 5
 set spantree priority 0 5
 
 Do both of them provide the same results: set vlan 5 as the
 root bridge.
 
 Thanks.
 JZ
 
 




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Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]

2002-05-13 Thread John Golovich

You will need to either purchase it from an authorized
Cisco Reseller or download it from Ciscos site if you
have a logon.

--- mail  wrote:
 Thanks for the input
 how can i get this IOS
 thanks
 akin
 - Original Message -
 From: John Golovich 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 8:54 AM
 Subject: Re: Nat on 1605 [7:44027]
 
 
  For NAT on version 11.3 it must be an ip plus IOS.
 
  I believe NAT was built into IP only around the
 12.1
  release
 
  --- mail  wrote:
   hi
   i trying to configure nat on a 1605 router and
 any
   time i try to enter the
   comand ip nat pool it does not recognise the
 command
   i am running IOS Version 11.3(5)T
   Thanks
   akin
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RE: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

2002-05-13 Thread Steve Watson

The theoretical v.35 cable distance is 4000 feet (1219.2 meters) at
speeds up to 100 kbps.

The longest v.35 cable I use is 10 feet.

Depending on distance and speed required Pairgains to drive copper and
Fiber Modems to drive fiber. At 35 meters you shouldn't have to
implement those.

Steve

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Subject: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

Hai,

Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35
signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal  approx. 30 to 35 mts.

If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment...

Thanks,
Kiran




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RE: CCIE Written Practice Questions [7:43893]

2002-05-13 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Yes, the CCIE Written Package from ccxxproductions.com is only $29.95.

Shawn K.

Disclaimer: I have written materials for CCxx Productions

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Subject: CCIE Written Practice Questions [7:43893]


Can somebody recommend some good CCIE pratice questions. Preferably low cost
as my company won't help pay for it.

MG

Network Engineer

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Re: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

2002-05-13 Thread MADMAN

Depends on the speed and you can often go further than the spec though
you may not get vendor support if you do so and have issues.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/hw_inst/2600hig/2600ch2.htm#xtocid17

  Dave

Kiran Kumar M wrote:
 
 Hai,
 
 Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35
 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal  approx. 30 to 35 mts.
 
 If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment...
 
 Thanks,
 Kiran
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RE: CCNP Study Guide [7:43932]

2002-05-13 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

I believe it depends on the exam you get. My exam had very little BGP and
EIGRP, but was loaded with OSPF. In my opinion, you really need to know them
all equally well.

Shawn K.

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Subject: RE: CCNP Study Guide [7:43932]


I felt this book didnt stress BGP enough
Know BGP inside out for this Exam




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RE: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

2002-05-13 Thread Kiran Kumar M

Hai,

Thank you for your quick response.

I would like to have a speed of 256 Kbps to 512 Kbps. I would like to use
copper, Does it support ?? What gauge is suggested ...

Thanks,
Kiran


On Mon, 13 May 2002, Steve Watson wrote:

 The theoretical v.35 cable distance is 4000 feet (1219.2 meters) at
 speeds up to 100 kbps.
 
 The longest v.35 cable I use is 10 feet.
 
 Depending on distance and speed required Pairgains to drive copper and
 Fiber Modems to drive fiber. At 35 meters you shouldn't have to
 implement those.
 
 Steve
 
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 Subject: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]
 
 Hai,
 
 Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35
 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal  approx. 30 to 35 mts.
 
 If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment...
 
 Thanks,
 Kiran




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ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Jablonski, Michael

Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?


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Re: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

2002-05-13 Thread Kiran Kumar M

Hai,

Thanks for your reply and link.

What best we can do to support atleast 256 Kbps for 35 mts. in terms of
cable gauge, etc...

Thanks,
Kiran


On Mon, 13 May 2002, MADMAN wrote:

 
   Depends on the speed and you can often go further than the spec though
 you may not get vendor support if you do so and have issues.
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/hw_inst/2600hig/2600ch2.htm#xtocid17
 
   Dave
 
 Kiran Kumar M wrote:
  
  Hai,
  
  Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35
  signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal  approx. 30 to 35 mts.
  
  If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment...
  
  Thanks,
  Kiran




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RE: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

2002-05-13 Thread Kazan, Naim

Well, you can run 1.544 speed on copper which is a full T1. Copper can
support speeds of fast Ethernet also.

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Hai,

Thank you for your quick response.

I would like to have a speed of 256 Kbps to 512 Kbps. I would like to use
copper, Does it support ?? What gauge is suggested ...

Thanks,
Kiran


On Mon, 13 May 2002, Steve Watson wrote:

 The theoretical v.35 cable distance is 4000 feet (1219.2 meters) at
 speeds up to 100 kbps.
 
 The longest v.35 cable I use is 10 feet.
 
 Depending on distance and speed required Pairgains to drive copper and
 Fiber Modems to drive fiber. At 35 meters you shouldn't have to
 implement those.
 
 Steve
 
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 Hai,
 
 Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35
 signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal  approx. 30 to 35 mts.
 
 If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment...
 
 Thanks,
 Kiran




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RE: ISDN dial-in [7:44013]

2002-05-13 Thread Mckenzie Bill

Did you define interesting traffic?


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Re: What is the limitation in V.35 [7:44032]

2002-05-13 Thread MADMAN

I would first make a 2nd attempt to get closer.  If this is not
feasible then purchase a good quality cable and test it, it may very
well work no problem.  I recall running RS232 from old Cisco terminal
servers at 9.6K a couple hunred feet no problem though the spec list 50
feet as the max.

  good luck.

 Dave

Kiran Kumar M wrote:
 
 Hai,
 
 Thanks for your reply and link.
 
 What best we can do to support atleast 256 Kbps for 35 mts. in terms of
 cable gauge, etc...
 
 Thanks,
 Kiran
 
 On Mon, 13 May 2002, MADMAN wrote:
 
 
Depends on the speed and you can often go further than the spec though
  you may not get vendor support if you do so and have issues.
 
 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_mod/cis2600/hw_inst/2600hig/2600ch2.htm#xtocid17
 
Dave
 
  Kiran Kumar M wrote:
  
   Hai,
  
   Can any one suggest me what would be max. distance support in V.35
   signalling. Is it possible to drive the signal  approx. 30 to 35 mts.
  
   If not possible How can drive the signall with low investment...
  
   Thanks,
   Kiran
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Re: CCIE Written Practice Questions [7:43893]

2002-05-13 Thread Mark Godfrey

Thanks a bunch I will give it a shot:-)
MG
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 Can somebody recommend some good CCIE pratice questions. Preferably low
cost
 as my company won't help pay for it.

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Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]

2002-05-13 Thread Johnson, Richard (NY Int)

Hi all, 

Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back
in October and have no idea what the password is. 


Rich




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Re: link utilisation [7:44020]

2002-05-13 Thread Mark Godfrey

Ya I think it was cache-flow look it up on the Cisco site we used it allot
when we were hit with the Code-red virus.
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 Can anybody tell me how to calculate traffic of
 different application on a WAN link means which
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RE: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is not listed for
the 1600 but is for the 1700. 

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BeachFrontDirect.com [7:44048]

2002-05-13 Thread Byron Mobley

Just wondering if anyone here has ever used BeachFrontQuizzer for test prep?
Received a call from them about 20 minutes ago stating that they offered a
no-pass money back guarntee and that they were a better test engine than
Boson. Any help / advice would be appreciated. Thanks..


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Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread Rajesh Kumar

Hi all,

CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the
bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value
equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is
connected to.

For ex :

RTR 1  --   RTR 2

1.544 Mbps64 Mbps



int
s0int s0
bandwidth 64
bandwidth 1544






My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing protocols
like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the outgoing
interfaces.

Can somebody shed some light on this please?


Thanks,
Rajesh




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RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]

2002-05-13 Thread Rah Hussain

Did you try the default admin/admim

Rah



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Hi all, 

Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back
in October and have no idea what the password is. 


Rich




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RE: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Jablonski, Michael

Looking through Cisco's site; they don't officially say you can use the ADSL
wic in a 1600 (then again, they don't say you cannot).  But I was
wondering if there was any type of upgrade/patch that would work?

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I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is not listed for
the 1600 but is for the 1700. 

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 Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?
 
 
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RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]

2002-05-13 Thread Rah Hussain

Sorry missed the link on my last post
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/pswdrec_vpn3000.html

Rah


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Subject: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]

Hi all, 

Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back
in October and have no idea what the password is. 


Rich




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RE: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread Daniel Cotts

Support (or lack thereof) would be an IOS issue. You might want to check the
Release Notes for the latest IOS versions.
About a year ago I stuck a ISDN BRI WIC in a 1604? that already had a
built-in BRI port. The router wouldn't recognize it. @#!! My point being
that just because it fits doesn't mean that it will function.

 -Original Message-
 From: Jablonski, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 Looking through Cisco's site; they don't officially say you 
 can use the ADSL
 wic in a 1600 (then again, they don't say you cannot).  But I was
 wondering if there was any type of upgrade/patch that would work?
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel Cotts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

 I just did a quick look on Cisco's price list. That module is 
 not listed for
 the 1600 but is for the 1700. 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Jablonski, Michael  
  Is it possible to get the ADSL WIC running on a 1600 router?




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cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]

2002-05-13 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet
ports?  Either built in or modular.  (if any of the older 25xx series have
two aui ports, that would work as well!)  I would also like to put
IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as well.

thanks,

-Patrick


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DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]

2002-05-13 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

This may be a silly question but I'm tired of searching for the answer, so
here's the question: 

Does a Windows client send unicast or broadcast packets when querying a DNS
server(s)?

The reason I'm asking is that I was looking through my old CID book and came
across the statement that Windows clients send unicast packets to the WINS
server at a well-known address. However, there is nothing regarding this
when it comes to DNS. An Internet search came up with the same thing
everywhere I looked: the Windows client sends a DNS query. What kind of
query? Unicast or Broadcast?

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RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]

2002-05-13 Thread Ciaron Gogarty

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Subject: RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]


Did you try the default admin/admim

Rah



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Hi all, 

Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back
in October and have no idea what the password is. 


Rich
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Re: DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]

2002-05-13 Thread Patrick Ramsey

windows clients will actualy send unicast to ALL listed dns servers...
Instead of quearying the first, timeout, second, timeout, etc They just
assume all will time out and send it to all listed.  but it is definately
unicast.

-Patrick

 Kaminski, Shawn G  05/13/02 01:11PM 
This may be a silly question but I'm tired of searching for the answer, so
here's the question: 

Does a Windows client send unicast or broadcast packets when querying a DNS
server(s)?

The reason I'm asking is that I was looking through my old CID book and came
across the statement that Windows clients send unicast packets to the WINS
server at a well-known address. However, there is nothing regarding this
when it comes to DNS. An Internet search came up with the same thing
everywhere I looked: the Windows client sends a DNS query. What kind of
query? Unicast or Broadcast?

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EDS Network Engineering - DowNET
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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without 
Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the 
Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never 
objected to it.

EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer 
support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some 
detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does 
an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-)

On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a 
custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying 
that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and 
hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my 
materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP?

Thx

Priscilla

At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote:
In-line
  wrote in message
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  Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco
  will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases.  I
  can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a
grain
  of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week.

That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually
seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense that
Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.

But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install
a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's true that
Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other
supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm not
talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an
agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that
Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about full-blown
vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For example, does
anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?   Now you
might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these
technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so
why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?

 
  JMcL
  - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm -
 
 
  nrf
  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Please respond to nrf
 
 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:
  Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors?
  [7:43994]
  Is this part of a business decision process?:
 
 
  Just found this while surfing around.
 
  As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of
  IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and
  BGP4 for unicast traffic...
  http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html
 
  Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that
IGRP
  is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in
  fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't have an
  Ipso
  box lying around that I can actually experiment with.  Can anyone confirm
  whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability
  with
  Cisco?


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Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but 
won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-)

Priscilla

At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote:
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  A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a
  production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites.

Here here and to add to that.  ... a production network with
20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol,
quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are
trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from whatever
manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own
VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc

Mike W.


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RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]

2002-05-13 Thread Don Nguyen

2514's have two ethernet ports... they are probably the cheapest 2 ethernet
port routers.  You could also go with a 4000 with a NP-2E but I think those
are roughly 100-200 more then a 2514.

HTH,

Don Nguyen


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RE: DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]

2002-05-13 Thread Don Nguyen

WINS is the MS bastardization of DNS =P... but to answer your question
windows uses unicast for dns query to a name server.  I noticed that you
refered to a WINS server in your question, WINS is used to netbios name
resolution not dns name resolution.  However, even here a windows client
uses unicast when querying the WINS server.

HTH,
Don Nguyen


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Re: require module info on 3600 series router [7:43925]

2002-05-13 Thread Sasa Milic

Amir,

you need  NM-1CE1/PRI (one E1 port) or NM-2CE1/PRI (two E1 ports).


Amir Aziz wrote:
 
 Hi everybody,
 
 I am here in Pakistan and we have E1 running at our ISP setup. OUR Telco
 provide E1 facility on G703/704I want to terminate these E1 lines directly
 into my router currently I am using CISCO 5300 for that purpose but I need
 compatiable module for my 3600 series routers as well can anyone tell me
the
 module details or module number to use in my router I will be very thankful
 to the person/s.
 
 Regards,
 Amir




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RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]

2002-05-13 Thread Kelly Cobean

The 2514 has two ether, two serial.

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Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet
ports?  Either built in or modular.  (if any of the older 25xx series have
two aui ports, that would work as well!)  I would also like to put
IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as
well.

thanks,

-Patrick


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CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44077]

2002-05-13 Thread Roger Collum

Is there any website with certification statistics out there? I am
wondering about how many CCNA's CCNP's and CCIE's there are out there.
Any info would be great.   Thank You




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CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44078]

2002-05-13 Thread Roger Collum

Is there any website with certification statistics out there? I am
wondering about how many CCNA's CCNP's and CCIE's there are out there.
Any info would be great.   Thank You




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RE: Reset the password on a 3015 [7:44049]

2002-05-13 Thread Ciaron Gogarty

you have to rename the config file, there is a doc for it on the cco

C

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Did you try the default admin/admim

Rah



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Hi all, 

Can anyone help me reset my password on a VPN 3015. Set this up back
in October and have no idea what the password is. 


Rich
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Re: Cisco Certification Digest V2 #2072 (Vacation) [7:44076]

2002-05-13 Thread Stephen Siu

I will be on vacation from 5-7-02 to 5-22-02.  Any matter regarding network
management please forward to Bob Taylor @ 213-979-0032.  Thanks.




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Re: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]

2002-05-13 Thread Shawn Heisey

The cheapest brand new Cisco router with two routable ethernet ports
would be the Cisco 806.  It looks like you can choose between IP/FW and
IP PLUS for free on this platform.

In terms of LIST price, the 1605-R ties with a 1721/WIC-1ENET combo. 
Either of these would leave you with a free WIC slot, but the 1721 would
give you dot1q vlan routing and far greater performance.

If you're looking for something used, there are more options, and prices
will vary. :)

Thanks,
Shawn

Patrick Ramsey wrote:
 
 Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet
 ports?  Either built in or modular.  (if any of the older 25xx series have
 two aui ports, that would work as well!)  I would also like to put
 IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as
well.




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Re: Difference spantree root vs spantree priority [7:43978]

2002-05-13 Thread JohnZ

So if I have several switches and I want switch A to be the root of VLAN 5
would the command  set spantree 5 on switch A make it the root. What if
switch Z is added to the network,  is there a chance that this switch under
the right circumstances will become the root. I guess what I am trying to
ask is how can I make sure that switch A will always stay the root bridge
for VLAN 5.

Also related to above, once I run set spantree root 5 will spanning tree
protocol re-initialize and all the ports will go thru the different states
of spanning tree. I am worried about all the servers and workstations that
are connected to this switch. Will I need to reboot them.

I hope I don't sound confusing, I am just trying to find the best way to do
this at work.

JohnZ  wrote in message
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 Hi group, I am try to figure out what is the difference between the
 following two commands:

 set spantree root 5
 set spantree priority 0 5

 Do both of them provide the same results: set vlan 5 as the root bridge.

 Thanks.
 JZ




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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Mike Mandulak

Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers
distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP).

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]


 Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without
 Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the
 Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never
 objected to it.

 EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer
 support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some
 detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what
does
 an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates?
;-)

 On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a
 custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying
 that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and
 hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my
 materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP?

 Thx

 Priscilla

 At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote:
 In-line
   wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that
Cisco
   will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases.  I
   can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a
 grain
   of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last
week.
 
 That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've
actually
 seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense that
 Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.
 
 But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to
install
 a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's true
that
 Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other
 supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm not
 talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has
an
 agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt
that
 Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about
full-blown
 vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For example,
does
 anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?   Now
you
 might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these
 technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP,
so
 why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?
 
  
   JMcL
   - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm -
  
  
   nrf
   Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   13/05/2002 01:42 pm
   Please respond to nrf
  
  
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   cc:
   Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors?
   [7:43994]
   Is this part of a business decision process?:
  
  
   Just found this while surfing around.
  
   As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite
of
   IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF
and
   BGP4 for unicast traffic...
   http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html
  
   Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that
 IGRP
   is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they
in
   fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't have
an
   Ipso
   box lying around that I can actually experiment with.  Can anyone
confirm
   whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability
   with
   Cisco?
 

 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread MADMAN

Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, did you change ANYTHING
you get the answer, no.  a long time later after you finally isloate the
problem the customer says, oh I didn't THINK that would have any effect
on...  You want to say I didn't ask what changes you thought would
cause the problem...

  Dave

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
 And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but
 won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-)
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote:
 Larry Letterman  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a
   production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites.
 
 Here here and to add to that.  ... a production network with
 20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol,
 quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are
 trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from
whatever
 manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own
 VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc
 
 Mike W.
 
 
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RE: BGP Multihoming Policy [7:43962]

2002-05-13 Thread travis marlow

I have a similar question, we're an ISP with our own ASN and we're
multihomed to two Tier 1 providers, we'll call them ASN10 and ASN20.  We
have a customer that wants to use ASN20 symmetrically for their traffic
while having ASN10 available in case of a failure.  Would this be
accomplished using route-maps?


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Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread W. Alan Robertson

Rajesh,

Correct...  The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing
protocols, like OSPF.  OSPF looks at the cost of a link in
determining best path.  There's no direct correllation between
bandwidth and cost.

As for what to set bandwidth to, you set it on both ends of a
connection based on the lower speed.

As an example, if you had two routers connected via frame-relay, one
of which utilized a T-1, and the other utilizing a 256k Fractional
T-1, you should set the bandwidth to 256kbps.  Most likely, you'd be
terminating each PVC to it's own Serial sub-interface, so on the
sub-interface, you'd set the bandwidth value to 256kbps (You may also
consider basing the bandwidth assignment on CIR (Committed Information
Rate), rather than the actual port speed).

If, on the other hand, you were running OSPF, you'd simply adjust the
ospf cost on each sub-interface.

Alan



- Original Message -
From: Rajesh Kumar 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:54 PM
Subject: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]


 Hi all,

 CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the
 bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value
 equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is
 connected to.

 [snip]

 My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing
protocols
 like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the
outgoing
 interfaces.

 Can somebody shed some light on this please?




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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 02:44 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote:
Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers
distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP).

If it only covers distance-vector, then it could cover EIGRP also. EIGRP is 
also distance-vector. I don't think the test does cover it, but it's not 
because the test only covers distance-vector. It's probably because of all 
the extra features in EIGRP, such as the diffusing update algorithm (DUAL), 
with the feasible successors and all that other BS. Come to think of it, 
maybe I'm glad I don't have to cover it! ;-)


- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]


  Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without
  Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the
  Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never
  objected to it.
 
  EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer
  support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out
some
  detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what
does
  an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates?
;-)
 
  On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a
  custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying
  that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and
  hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in
my
  materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP?
 
  Thx
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote:
  In-line
wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that
Cisco
will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases. 
I
can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a
  grain
of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last
week.
  
  That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've
actually
  seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense
that
  Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.
  
  But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to
install
  a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's true
that
  Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other
  supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm not
  talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually
has
an
  agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt
that
  Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about
full-blown
  vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For example,
does
  anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?   Now
you
  might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support
these
  technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support
IGRP,
so
  why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?
  
   
JMcL
- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm -
   
   
nrf
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
13/05/2002 01:42 pm
Please respond to nrf
   
   
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors?
[7:43994]
Is this part of a business decision process?:
   
   
Just found this while surfing around.
   
As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite
of
IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF
and
BGP4 for unicast traffic...
http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html
   
Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that
  IGRP
is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that
they
in
fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't have
an
Ipso
box lying around that I can actually experiment with.  Can anyone
confirm
whether this is true and whether it provides complete
interoperability
with
Cisco?
  
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com


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RE: CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44078]

2002-05-13 Thread Nguyen, Cuong Q

Here is the link for CCIEs.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html

C.Q.Nguyen

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Subject: CERTIFICATION STATISTICS [7:44078]


Is there any website with certification statistics out there? I am
wondering about how many CCNA's CCNP's and CCIE's there are out there.
Any info would be great.   Thank You




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Re: ADSL - WIC 1600???? [7:44042]

2002-05-13 Thread MADMAN

Nope, 1700, 2600, 3600, 3700.

  Dave

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Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

OSPF cost is based on the bandwidth setting on Cisco routers. The cost of 
an interface defaults to 100,000,000 divided by the bandwidth for the 
interface. For example, a 100-Mbps Ethernet interface has a cost of 1.

Priscilla

At 03:06 PM 5/13/02, W. Alan Robertson wrote:
Rajesh,

Correct...  The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing
protocols, like OSPF.  OSPF looks at the cost of a link in
determining best path.  There's no direct correllation between
bandwidth and cost.

As for what to set bandwidth to, you set it on both ends of a
connection based on the lower speed.

As an example, if you had two routers connected via frame-relay, one
of which utilized a T-1, and the other utilizing a 256k Fractional
T-1, you should set the bandwidth to 256kbps.  Most likely, you'd be
terminating each PVC to it's own Serial sub-interface, so on the
sub-interface, you'd set the bandwidth value to 256kbps (You may also
consider basing the bandwidth assignment on CIR (Committed Information
Rate), rather than the actual port speed).

If, on the other hand, you were running OSPF, you'd simply adjust the
ospf cost on each sub-interface.

Alan



- Original Message -
From: Rajesh Kumar
To:
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 12:54 PM
Subject: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]


  Hi all,
 
  CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the
  bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value
  equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is
  connected to.
 
  [snip]
 
  My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing
protocols
  like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the
outgoing
  interfaces.
 
  Can somebody shed some light on this please?


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]

2002-05-13 Thread M.C. van den Bovenkamp

Patrick Ramsey wrote:

 Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2 ethernet
 ports?  Either built in or modular.  (if any of the older 25xx series have
 two aui ports, that would work as well!)  I would also like to put
 IOS-firewall on it so memory constraints may dictate which one I buy as
well.

If you can get one (off Ebay, say), a 2514 would do the trick (two AUI
ports). Otherwise, a 1605R.

Regards,

Marco.




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RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]

2002-05-13 Thread Mike Sweeney

2514's have fallen quite a bit on Ebay of late. They roughly the same as a
1605 nowdays. Figure right about 500ish.. my quick numbers show that the
average price PAID on Ebay for the last 30 days is 409.00

MikeS



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RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread Larry Letterman

:)

Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 11:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]


Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, did you change ANYTHING
you get the answer, no.  a long time later after you finally isloate the
problem the customer says, oh I didn't THINK that would have any effect
on...  You want to say I didn't ask what changes you thought would
cause the problem...

  Dave

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but
 won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-)

 Priscilla

 At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote:
 Larry Letterman  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a
   production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites.
 
 Here here and to add to that.  ... a production network with
 20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol,
 quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are
 trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from
whatever
 manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own
 VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc
 
 Mike W.
 

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RE: BeachFrontDirect.com [7:44048]

2002-05-13 Thread Mike Sweeney

When I did my MCSE, I tried it. It had errors and I ended back with
Trancenders.

Just my opinion

MikeS


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RE: cheapest router supporting two ethernet ports [7:44061]

2002-05-13 Thread timothy thielen

If all you need is 2 ethernet ports, and depending on your use for it, try
to find a 3101.  2 ethernet, 0 serial, 1 Con, 1 Aux.   They are fairly
ancient, and not considered labworthy, but they (I think) can hold an IOS
with the firewall set, and they can NAT.  If they don't have the memory
natively, it can always be upgraded.

Oh, and since they were discontinued, they are cheap (when you can find
them).


--Tim

Patrick Ramsey wrote:
 
 Anyone know what the cheapest cisco router is that supports 2
 ethernet ports?  Either built in or modular.  (if any of the
 older 25xx series have two aui ports, that would work as
 well!)  I would also like to put IOS-firewall on it so memory
 constraints may dictate which one I buy as well.
 
 thanks,
 
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2900 series swithc [7:44092]

2002-05-13 Thread GEORGE

Im trying to trunk a 2900 switch but does not have the switchport option
?
Can the 2900 series handle trunking?
Or only the 2900 xl?




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RE: DNS - Unicast or Broadcast? [7:44060]

2002-05-13 Thread timothy thielen

Why would you have to set a DNS address or have it DHCP'd to you if you were
going to broadcast the request?  Unicast it is!

--Tim

Kaminski, Shawn G wrote:
 
 This may be a silly question but I'm tired of searching for the
 answer, so
 here's the question: 
 
 Does a Windows client send unicast or broadcast packets when
 querying a DNS
 server(s)?
 
 The reason I'm asking is that I was looking through my old CID
 book and came
 across the statement that Windows clients send unicast packets
 to the WINS
 server at a well-known address. However, there is nothing
 regarding this
 when it comes to DNS. An Internet search came up with the same
 thing
 everywhere I looked: the Windows client sends a DNS query.
 What kind of
 query? Unicast or Broadcast?
 
 Shawn G. Kaminski
 EDS Network Engineering - DowNET
 
 




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CCNP study material? [7:44091]

2002-05-13 Thread Jeff Dutton

I have seen the CCNP certification library and i've seen the CCNP
preparation library and each have the 4 books for CCNP. My question is which
one is better to study from? There is quite a considerable difference in the
pricing of the library's. Anyone?


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Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread John Neiberger

 W. Alan Robertson  5/13/02 1:06:25 PM

Rajesh,

Correct...  The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing
protocols, like OSPF.  OSPF looks at the cost of a link in
determining best path.  There's no direct correllation between
bandwidth and cost.

There isn't?  How does OSPF determine the cost of a link?

Regards,
John




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RE: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

2002-05-13 Thread Rah Hussain

Doh ;-)

Rah

-Original Message-
From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 13 May 2002 19:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE- I WILL BE [7:43969]

Yes or when there is a problem and you ask, did you change ANYTHING
you get the answer, no.  a long time later after you finally isloate the
problem the customer says, oh I didn't THINK that would have any effect
on...  You want to say I didn't ask what changes you thought would
cause the problem...

  Dave

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
 And add to that cranky users who are entirely dependent on the network but
 won't tell you the whole story when reporting problems. ;-)
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 09:52 PM 5/12/02, Michael L. Williams wrote:
 Larry Letterman  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   A 40 router lab is nice, but its not the same as troubleshooting a
   production network with 20,000 + users at multiple sites.
 
 Here here and to add to that.  ... a production network with
 20,000+ users at multiple sites... running a variety of multiprotocol,
 quirky, sometimes custom-written (read: homemade) applications that are
 trying to do whatever on the network coupled with devices from
whatever
 manufacturers that don't play nice (oh, you need this device in it's own
 VLAN because broadcast traffic makes it crash), etc, etc
 
 Mike W.
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
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CCIE# 2016
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RE: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread Wright, Jeremy

Please reference Doyle Episode 1 bottom of pg 485 and you will see how
bandwidth and costs relate. 

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]


 W. Alan Robertson  5/13/02 1:06:25 PM

Rajesh,

Correct...  The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing
protocols, like OSPF.  OSPF looks at the cost of a link in
determining best path.  There's no direct correllation between
bandwidth and cost.

There isn't?  How does OSPF determine the cost of a link?

Regards,
John




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Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread W. Alan Robertson

Revise and extend:

There is no direct correlation between the values of the interface
bandwidth and the ospf cost commands.

OSPF does not examine the interface bandwidth statement, nor does
EIGRP examine the interface ospf cost statement.

I didn't mean to suggest that OSPF cost isn't related to bandwidth...
I should have written more clearly.

:)

I yield the balance of my time...

- Original Message -
From: John Neiberger 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]


  W. Alan Robertson  5/13/02 1:06:25
PM
 
 Rajesh,
 
 Correct...  The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing
 protocols, like OSPF.  OSPF looks at the cost of a link in
 determining best path.  There's no direct correllation between
 bandwidth and cost.

 There isn't?  How does OSPF determine the cost of a link?

 Regards,
 John




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CCIE Certification Shelf Life [7:44098]

2002-05-13 Thread Mark Godfrey

How long once you have passed do you have to re-certify? This being after
passsing both the written and the Lab. Is it good for life? Or was it every
5 years need to go take a written only?




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Fw: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Mike Mandulak

Forgot to send this to list as well.

- Original Message -
From: Mike Mandulak 
To: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]


 Lammle refers to EIGRP as being a Hybrid of distance-vector and link
state.
 He only gives a brief mention of EIGRP and says to refer to the CCNP study
 guide for more info.

 - Original Message -
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
 To: 
 Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:19 PM
 Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]


  At 02:44 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote:
  Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers
  distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP).
 
  If it only covers distance-vector, then it could cover EIGRP also. EIGRP
 is
  also distance-vector. I don't think the test does cover it, but it's not
  because the test only covers distance-vector. It's probably because of
all
  the extra features in EIGRP, such as the diffusing update algorithm
 (DUAL),
  with the feasible successors and all that other BS. Come to think of it,
  maybe I'm glad I don't have to cover it! ;-)
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
  To:
  Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
  
  
Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even
 without
Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also,
 the
Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco
never
objected to it.
   
EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings,
 developer
support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure
out
  some
detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example,
what
  does
an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in
 Updates?
  ;-)
   
On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching
a
custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it
 annoying
that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory
and
hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already
 in
  my
materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not
EIGRP?
   
Thx
   
Priscilla
   
At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote:
In-line
  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told
 that
  Cisco
  will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS
 releases.
  I
  can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take
with
 a
grain
  of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this
last
  week.

That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've
  actually
seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes
sense
  that
Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.

But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to
  install
a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's
 true
  that
Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what
 other
supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm
not
talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco
actually
  has
  an
agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I
doubt
  that
Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about
  full-blown
vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For
 example,
  does
anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?
 Now
  you
might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support
  these
technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support
  IGRP,
  so
why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?

 
  JMcL
  - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44
 pm -
 
 
  nrf
  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  13/05/2002 01:42 pm
  Please respond to nrf
 
 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:
  Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other
 vendors?
  [7:43994]
  Is this part of a business decision process?:
 
 
  Just found this while surfing around.
 
  As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive
 suite
  of
  IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP,
 OSPF
  and
  BGP4 for unicast traffic...
  http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html
 
  Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail
 that
IGRP
  is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming
that
  they
  in
  fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't
 have
  an
  Ipso
  

RE: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Logan, Harold

You're right about IGRP still being listed on the CCNA objectives. While
I've sometimes found it frustrating to teach an outdated protocol, IGRP is
useful as a teaching tool. With IGRP you can easily demonstrate the concept
of composite metrics, poison reverse, holddown timers, split horizon, and
unequal-cost load balancing, but you don't have multicast updates, neighbor
relationships, incremental updates, and VLSM's adding to the confusion.

If EIGRP replaces IGRP on the CCNA, then hopefully the certification team
will draw a clear line indicating which features of eigrp will be tested and
which ones won't. The way things are right now, IGRP makes for a smooth
transition from the CCNA to the CCNP Routing exam. Someone who understands
IGRP doesn't need to reinvent the wheel to learn EIGRP, and once one has
supernetting and neighbor relationships in his or her belt, they can deal
with OSPF area types and LSA's and the like.

Hal Logan CCAI, CCDP, CCNP:Voice
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing  Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]


Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even without 
Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also, the 
Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never 
objected to it.

EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings, developer 
support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out some 
detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example, what does 
an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in Updates? ;-)

On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a 
custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it annoying 
that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory and 
hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already in my 
materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not EIGRP?

Thx

Priscilla

At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote:
In-line
  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told that Cisco
  will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS releases.  I
  can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take with a
grain
  of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last week.

That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've actually
seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense that
Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.

But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to install
a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's true that
Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what other
supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm not
talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco actually has an
agreement to provide its technology to other vendors (somehow I doubt that
Cisco and Nokia have such an agreement),  but I'm talking about full-blown
vendor compatibility between some other vendor and Cisco.  For example, does
anybody know of another vendor that supports, say, EIGRP?  Or CDP?   Now you
might say that it would be impossible for another vendor to support these
technologies, but, hey, Nokia apparently somehow managed to support IGRP, so
why exactly couldn't somebody else support, say, EIGRP?

 
  JMcL
  - Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 13/05/2002 04:44 pm -
 
 
  nrf
  Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  13/05/2002 01:42 pm
  Please respond to nrf
 
 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  cc:
  Subject:Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors?
  [7:43994]
  Is this part of a business decision process?:
 
 
  Just found this while surfing around.
 
  As a network device, the Nokia IP330 supports a comprehensive suite of
  IP-routing functions and protocols, including RIPv1/RIPv2, IGRP, OSPF and
  BGP4 for unicast traffic...
  http://www.nokia.com/securitysolutions/platforms/330.html
 
  Every piece of literature I've ever read has stated without fail that
IGRP
  is proprietary to Cisco.  Yet here's Nokia brazenly claiming that they in
  fact support IGRP.  What's up with that?  Unfortunately I don't have an
  Ipso
  box lying around that I can actually experiment with.  Can anyone confirm
  whether this is true and whether it provides complete interoperability
  with
  Cisco?


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread John Neiberger

In a roundabout fashion I was attempting to point out that this is
partially incorrect.  You can change the OSPF cost on an interface by
either adding the ospf cost command or by tweaking the bandwidth
statement.

By default, the OSPF cost for an interface is (10^8)/bandwidth.  If you
manipulate the bandwidth statement you change the OSPF metric.  This is
precisely why if you're running OSPF and EIGRP concurrently and you want
to adjust the EIGRP metrics without affecting the OSPF metrics you
should adjust the interface delay parameter, not the bandwidth.  If you
were to change the bandwidth parameter you would change both the OSPF
and EIGRP metrics.

HTH,
John

 W. Alan Robertson  5/13/02 2:04:57 PM

Revise and extend:

There is no direct correlation between the values of the interface
bandwidth and the ospf cost commands.

OSPF does not examine the interface bandwidth statement, nor does
EIGRP examine the interface ospf cost statement.

I didn't mean to suggest that OSPF cost isn't related to bandwidth...
I should have written more clearly.

:)

I yield the balance of my time...

- Original Message -
From: John Neiberger 
To: ; 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]


  W. Alan Robertson  5/13/02 1:06:25
PM
 
 Rajesh,
 
 Correct...  The bandwidth statement has no impact on other routing
 protocols, like OSPF.  OSPF looks at the cost of a link in
 determining best path.  There's no direct correllation between
 bandwidth and cost.

 There isn't?  How does OSPF determine the cost of a link?

 Regards,
 John




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RE: CCIE Certification Shelf Life [7:44098]

2002-05-13 Thread Michael Williams

Two years..

See:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/recertifications/recertification.html

(watch for wrap)

Mike W.


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Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]

2002-05-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 04:13 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote:
Lammle refers to EIGRP as being a Hybrid of distance-vector and link state.

That's wrong. EIGRP is not link-state in any way. EIGRP calculates a flat 
routing table that lists networks, distance, and next hop (distance 
vectors). If the list contains multiple entries for a destination (because 
there are multiple ways to reach the destination), the entries are sorted 
by metric and the one with the lowest metric is selected. This is very 
different than how a link-state protocol functions.

A link-state routing protocol creates a mathematical graph that depicts the 
network. A link-state protocol implements a sophisticated process, called 
the Dijkstra algorithm, to determine the shortest path to all points in the 
graph when the nodes and links in the graph are known. Link-state has a 
specific meaning to computer scientists. You'll find a lot of good stuff 
about it if you search with Google. A lot of it is not related to routing 
protocols.

EIGRP does have some features that make it different from other 
distance-vector protocols. Although EIGRP still sends vectors with distance 
information, the updates are non-periodic, partial, and bounded. 
Non-periodic means that updates are sent only when a metric changes rather 
than at regular intervals. Partial means that updates include only routes 
that have changed, not every entry in the routing table. Bounded means that 
updates are sent only to affected routers. These behaviors mean that EIGRP 
uses very little bandwidth.

EIGRP also determines a feasible successor, which other distance-vector 
protocols don't do. Its complex metric is also a feature not found in many 
other distance-vector algorithms, (except IGRP of course).

Please do not send messages to me directly, especially not to quote Lammle 
CCNA fluff.

Priscilla

He only gives a brief mention of EIGRP and says to refer to the CCNP study
guide for more info.

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]


  At 02:44 PM 5/13/02, Mike Mandulak wrote:
  Lamme's CCNA study guide states that the courde and exam only covers
  distance-vector routing protocols (RIP and IGRP).
 
  If it only covers distance-vector, then it could cover EIGRP also. EIGRP
is
  also distance-vector. I don't think the test does cover it, but it's not
  because the test only covers distance-vector. It's probably because of
all
  the extra features in EIGRP, such as the diffusing update algorithm
(DUAL),
  with the feasible successors and all that other BS. Come to think of it,
  maybe I'm glad I don't have to cover it! ;-)
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
  To:
  Sent: Monday, May 13, 2002 1:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Is IGRP actually supported by other vendors? [7:43994]
  
  
Well, it occurs to me that IGRP would be easy to implement even
without
Cisco's permission. ;-) It's a simple protocol, for one thing. Also,
the
Rutgers paper that describes IGRP has been out for years. Cisco never
objected to it.
   
EIGRP would not be easy to implement without Cisco's blessings,
developer
support, licensed code, etc. We have probably all tried to figure out
  some
detail of EIGRP or other and run into a brick wall. (For example,
what
  does
an router EIGRP really do with the MTU that is passed around in
Updates?
  ;-)
   
On a related tangent, will they remove IGRP from CCNA? I'm teaching a
custom CCNA class next month, using my own materials. I find it
annoying
that I have to sort of downgrade my materials to teach IGRP theory
and
hands-on instead of the EIGRP I would prefer to teach and is already
in
  my
materials. But I think I'm right that CCNA expects IGRP and not
EIGRP?
   
Thx
   
Priscilla
   
At 04:02 AM 5/13/02, nrf wrote:
In-line
  wrote in message
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  Nokia might support it, but I have been (fairly reliably) told
that
  Cisco
  will *not* be supporting IGRP as of one of the newest IOS
releases.
  I
  can't find the announcement on CCO (if there is one), so take
with
a
grain
  of salt, but a Cisco instructor was quite adamant about this last
  week.

That makes sense, considering it's literally been years since I've
  actually
seen a bonafide production network running IGRP.   So it makes sense
  that
Cisco is finally ditching this dead wood.

But I'm not asking this question because I'm champing at the bit to
  install
a mixed Cisco/Nokia  IGRP network.  No, I'm asking because if it's
true
  that
Nokia really does support IGRP, then that begs the question - what
other
supposedly Cisco-proprietary technologies are like this too?  I'm
not
talking about situations like what Howard stated where Cisco
actually
  has
  an
agreement to provide its 

Re: Bandwidth command!! [7:44055]

2002-05-13 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Setting the bandwidth would affect OSPF also. This isn't necessarily a bad 
thing, though. You probably wouldn't be running both routing protocols on 
the same interface, for one thing. But if you were, then you would want 
them both to use a metric that's based on the actual bandwidth for the path.

That sounds like good advice from the CCIE Practical Studies book. It 
brings up a subtle point, in addition to the one you pointed out. The 
outgoing interface may have a different level of bandwidth than the 
incoming interface of the router on the other end of a circuit, in some 
implementations. A good example might be a Frame Relay hub-and-spoke 
design. The hub has a larger pipe than the spoke.

Priscilla

At 12:54 PM 5/13/02, Rajesh Kumar wrote:
Hi all,

CCIE Practical studies - Vol I book - EIGRP chapter says that the
bandwidth command used in serial interfaces should be set to a value
equal to the remote port speed to which the serial interface is
connected to.

For ex :

 RTR 1  --   RTR 2

 1.544 Mbps64 Mbps



 int
s0int s0
 bandwidth 64
bandwidth 1544






My question is - Is it not going to affect the other routing protocols
like OSPF where we set the bandwidth decides the cost of the outgoing
interfaces.

Can somebody shed some light on this please?


Thanks,
Rajesh


Priscilla Oppenheimer
http://www.priscilla.com




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