Re: IGRP as proprietary? [7:57603]

2002-11-20 Thread nrf
> Router_10(config)#router ?
>   bgp   Border Gateway Protocol (BGP)
>   egp   Exterior Gateway Protocol (EGP)
>   eigrp Enhanced Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (EIGRP)
>   igrp  Interior Gateway Routing Protocol (IGRP)
>   isis  ISO IS-IS
>
> > > > > >  iso-igrp  IGRP for OSI networksNOTE THIS ONE
>
>   mobileMobile routes
>   odr   On Demand stub Routes
>   ospf  Open Shortest Path First (OSPF)
>   rip   Routing Information Protocol (RIP)
>   staticStatic routes
>
> I don't believe I have ever seen any documentation on this version on CCO

Au contraire:  (watch the wrap)

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fapo
lo_c/3cfclns.htm#xtocid13


Not only is ISO-IGRP actually fairly well documented, I have actually used
it several times in some old-school GOSIP networks.  It's a nice little
protocol, if a bit limited.




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RE: 2500 series DRAM ???? [7:57811]

2002-11-20 Thread Elijah Savage III
I just upgraded my lab with 2 more 2500's and I upgraded them mem in
them with this mem
http://www.compgeeks.com/details.asp?invtid=4X36FPM

It was only 9 bucks so I said what the hey and I got lucky it works. You
can also go to kg2.com and get cisco memory garaunteed to work but a bit
more expensive.


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binh,

Heres my notes on 2500 memory... hopefully there
should be some stickers or wording on the chips/pcb
that help out finding out what you have.

2500 DRAM use ONLY:

 - 1x36 70ns(or faster) TIN SIMMS 4 meg
 - 4x36 70ns(or faster) TIN SIMM 16 meg

PARITY, not Nx32. And they must be electronically 'single-sided'. 
Some simply don't work so shop/look around.

--- Binh Ma  wrote:
> Hi to all members,
> 
> I have old 16mb DRAM modules and would like to reuse
> them on the 2500
> series routers, but I'm a little unsure if the
> router will take it. Can 
> someone clarify will me what type of DRAM will the
> 2500 series router 
> take, non-parity or parity DRAM modules ?? And how
> can I tell if my 16mb 
> DRAM modules are parity or non-parity type ??
> 
> Thank-you members,
> 
> rgds,
> 
> Binh Ma
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RE: 2500 series DRAM ???? [7:57811]

2002-11-20 Thread Jonathan Mian
This should helo you:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/cis2500/2500cfig/67028.htm#xtocid221108

Watch out for the text wrap though.

Yeti-GBR1 of www.yeti-gbr1.co.uk


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Re: 2500 series DRAM ???? [7:57811]

2002-11-20 Thread Erick B.
binh,

Heres my notes on 2500 memory... hopefully there
should be some stickers or wording on the chips/pcb
that help out finding out what you have.

2500 DRAM use ONLY:

 - 1x36 70ns(or faster) TIN SIMMS 4 meg
 - 4x36 70ns(or faster) TIN SIMM 16 meg

PARITY, not Nx32. And they must be electronically
'single-sided'. 
Some simply don't work so shop/look around.

--- Binh Ma  wrote:
> Hi to all members,
> 
> I have old 16mb DRAM modules and would like to reuse
> them on the 2500 
> series routers, but I'm a little unsure if the
> router will take it. Can 
> someone clarify will me what type of DRAM will the
> 2500 series router 
> take, non-parity or parity DRAM modules ?? And how
> can I tell if my 16mb 
> DRAM modules are parity or non-parity type ??
> 
> Thank-you members,
> 
> rgds,
> 
> Binh Ma
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Re: Adding VLANs [7:57819]

2002-11-20 Thread The Long and Winding Road
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> I  have a question about how to add vlans to the port-channel without
> it being disruptive. When I added vlan 62,63, and 64 I started with the
> interfaces 1/1 and 1/2 on 6509A then did the portchannel 1 on the 6509a
then
> went to the 6509b and did the same thing in the same order. By the time I
> got to doing the portchannel on the 6509b, users were calling like
crazy
> Once I finished, all was fine again. The message I got was related to the
> portchannel not having the same vlan mask on both ends. Is there an order
> that I can do on future additions to the portchannel that will avoid this
> unpleasantness?


no disrespect intended, but perhaps this kind of thing could be scheduled
for a slack time - after hours, a weekend? done remotey?


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Re: Adding VLANs [7:57819]

2002-11-20 Thread The Long and Winding Road
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> I  have a question about how to add vlans to the port-channel without
> it being disruptive. When I added vlan 62,63, and 64 I started with the
> interfaces 1/1 and 1/2 on 6509A then did the portchannel 1 on the 6509a
then
> went to the 6509b and did the same thing in the same order. By the time I
> got to doing the portchannel on the 6509b, users were calling like
crazy
> Once I finished, all was fine again. The message I got was related to the
> portchannel not having the same vlan mask on both ends. Is there an order
> that I can do on future additions to the portchannel that will avoid this
> unpleasantness?


do al l your configs in notepad ahead of time. then do a simple quick cut
and paste.

no muss, little fuss.


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Adding VLANs [7:57819]

2002-11-20 Thread Azhar Teza
I  have a question about how to add vlans to the port-channel without
it being disruptive. When I added vlan 62,63, and 64 I started with the
interfaces 1/1 and 1/2 on 6509A then did the portchannel 1 on the 6509a then
went to the 6509b and did the same thing in the same order. By the time I
got to doing the portchannel on the 6509b, users were calling like crazy
Once I finished, all was fine again. The message I got was related to the
portchannel not having the same vlan mask on both ends. Is there an order
that I can do on future additions to the portchannel that will avoid this
unpleasantness?

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Re: Confused from London [7:57780]

2002-11-20 Thread B.J. Wilson
> Our baseball season is over
> unfortunatley, and now all we have is football (ugh).

Priscilla!!!  How dare you, on the eve of the UMich/Ohio State game?!?!

;-)

BJ

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Re: Confused from London [7:57780]

2002-11-20 Thread Peter Kingston
5 games of cricket Between Australia and England have just commenced...
Australia won the first game very convincingly

Australia should go a clean sweep

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""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> Well you better explain this to us Yankees. Our baseball season is over
> unfortunatley, and now all we have is football (ugh). Well we have hockey
> and basketball too, I guess, and they're a litte better! :-)
>
> Priscilla
>
> Peter Kingston wrote:
> >
> > I just as a little bit of friendly rivalry,
> >
> > I believe there is more than yourself confused in London,
> > naming your
> > cricketers 5 zips looks like a fair chance
> >
> > --
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> >
> > Peter Kingston
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> > > Someone asked me a question which confused me:-
> > > If i ping a network broadcast from a host on a different
> > network, which
> > > passes through a cisco router why do i get replies from
> > certain devices.
> > >
> > > The router has directed broadcast forwarding disabled.
> > > I thought the router would therefore drop the packet
> > >
> > > Any thoughts
> > > Thanks
> > > -P




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Re: Confused from London [7:57780]

2002-11-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Well you better explain this to us Yankees. Our baseball season is over
unfortunatley, and now all we have is football (ugh). Well we have hockey
and basketball too, I guess, and they're a litte better! :-)

Priscilla

Peter Kingston wrote:
> 
> I just as a little bit of friendly rivalry,
> 
> I believe there is more than yourself confused in London,
> naming your
> cricketers 5 zips looks like a fair chance
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Peter Kingston
> Telstra BigPond Direct
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>  wrote in message
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> > Someone asked me a question which confused me:-
> > If i ping a network broadcast from a host on a different
> network, which
> > passes through a cisco router why do i get replies from
> certain devices.
> >
> > The router has directed broadcast forwarding disabled.
> > I thought the router would therefore drop the packet
> >
> > Any thoughts
> > Thanks
> > -P
> 
> 




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Re: Confused from London [7:57780]

2002-11-20 Thread Peter Kingston
I just as a little bit of friendly rivalry,

I believe there is more than yourself confused in London, naming your
cricketers 5 zips looks like a fair chance

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> Someone asked me a question which confused me:-
> If i ping a network broadcast from a host on a different network, which
> passes through a cisco router why do i get replies from certain devices.
>
> The router has directed broadcast forwarding disabled.
> I thought the router would therefore drop the packet
>
> Any thoughts
> Thanks
> -P




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Re: passed cit. that's a wrap on ccnp [7:57741]

2002-11-20 Thread Peter Kingston
I thought the routing and the Remote access as the easiest, breezed them
both in..

Switching the hardest and Troubleshooting just below the Switching

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> and Swtiching last. I missed passing the CIT by 6 measly points. I'm
taking
> it next month again, congrats and keep on going!! Any advice on CIT please
> send to my email address.




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RE: Ping to directed broadcast [7:57780]

2002-11-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Oops. I mean to make the title say Ping to Directed Broadcast. The original
title "Confused from London" wasn't meaningful, so I meant to do a good deed
and change it, but changed it to the wrong thing. Hope you understand. :-)

(The meta-message is a strong recommendation that we all use titles with
meaning to optimize the efficiency of the thousands of people reading the
numerous messages per day on the list. Thanks.)

Priscilla

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > Someone asked me a question which confused me:-
> > If i ping a network broadcast from a host on a different
> > network, which passes through a cisco router why do i get
> > replies from certain devices.
> 
> What are these "certain devices" that respond? 
> 
> Where are you running the ping from? What operating system?
> What ping tool? How does the ping tool behave? Does it send a
> single packet or try to be smart and send individual pings?
> What is your topology? What is your config? Could there be a
> misconfigured subnet mask so that devices don't agree on what
> the broadcast address is? What do debug and protocol analyzer
> traces show you?
> 
> > 
> > The router has directed broadcast forwarding disabled.
> > I thought the router would therefore drop the packet
> 
> The router should not forward the packet onto the network in
> question if you have "no ip directed-broad" configured on the
> outgoing interface. I have verified that routers handle this
> correctly, at least in my lab.
> 
> However, I have seen some strange behavior with these routers
> (running IOS 11.0, by the way). The routers respond to the ping
> themselves! They don't forward, but they do respond, (regardles
> of the configuration for directed broadcasts.)
> 
> Here's the scenario where I've seen this:
> 
> internetwork-e0-Cisco router-e1Ethernet LAN
> 
> e0
> ip addr 10.10.0.2 255.255.255.0
> 
> e1
> ip addr 192.168.40.2 255.255.255.0
> 
> I ping from somewhere on the internetwork to 192.168.40.255.
> With "no ip directed-broad" configured, the router doesn't
> forward the packet, but it does respond to the ping.
> 
> The reply comes from 10.10.0.2. Cisco routers accept this reply
> and say that the ping succeeded. Windows 98 DOS ping does not
> accept this reply (because it comes from 10.10.0.2 and not the
> address that the ping was sent to).
> 
> It is kind of strange that the router responds, so if your
> scenario is similar, I can see why you ask the question. Of
> course your scenario could be completely different too, and
> there are probably numerous other reasons that you could be
> seeing replies, depending on your config, tools, etc.
> 
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> > 
> > Any thoughts
> > Thanks
> > -P
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




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ARP to directed broadcast [7:57780]

2002-11-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Someone asked me a question which confused me:-
> If i ping a network broadcast from a host on a different
> network, which passes through a cisco router why do i get
> replies from certain devices.

What are these "certain devices" that respond? 

Where are you running the ping from? What operating system? What ping tool?
How does the ping tool behave? Does it send a single packet or try to be
smart and send individual pings? What is your topology? What is your config?
Could there be a misconfigured subnet mask so that devices don't agree on
what the broadcast address is? What do debug and protocol analyzer traces
show you?

> 
> The router has directed broadcast forwarding disabled.
> I thought the router would therefore drop the packet

The router should not forward the packet onto the network in question if you
have "no ip directed-broad" configured on the outgoing interface. I have
verified that routers handle this correctly, at least in my lab.

However, I have seen some strange behavior with these routers (running IOS
11.0, by the way). The routers respond to the ping themselves! They don't
forward, but they do respond, (regardles of the configuration for directed
broadcasts.)

Here's the scenario where I've seen this:

internetwork-e0-Cisco router-e1Ethernet LAN

e0
ip addr 10.10.0.2 255.255.255.0

e1
ip addr 192.168.40.2 255.255.255.0

I ping from somewhere on the internetwork to 192.168.40.255. With "no ip
directed-broad" configured, the router doesn't forward the packet, but it
does respond to the ping.

The reply comes from 10.10.0.2. Cisco routers accept this reply and say that
the ping succeeded. Windows 98 DOS ping does not accept this reply (because
it comes from 10.10.0.2 and not the address that the ping was sent to).

It is kind of strange that the router responds, so if your scenario is
similar, I can see why you ask the question. Of course your scenario could
be completely different too, and there are probably numerous other reasons
that you could be seeing replies, depending on your config, tools, etc.

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> Any thoughts
> Thanks
> -P
> 
> 




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RE: pix vpn [7:57740]

2002-11-20 Thread Lidiya White
PIX will support IPSec over UDP is ver 6.3

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Ciaron,

You know, I've been impatiently waiting for the same feature. When I teach
classes that are remote for Boson, we use a 3002 and a router. I need to set
up a GRE tunnel and then encrypt this tunnel. And because this stuff
typically goes through a firewall, I need a TCP VPN connection. It would be
great if Cisco's routers supported this feature; then I could get read of
the 3002 and 3005 and just use two routers as the endpoints of the
connection. If anyone knows if/when Cisco has plans for adding this feature
to their routers and PIXs, I'm sure quite a few people would be interested
in this information.

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Security rep for a mortgage company [7:57798]

2002-11-20 Thread J B
I have a client mortgage company the would like to connect to the internet
and provide VPN access to the sattelite offices.
Is there any legal or specific requirement they need to meet in order to
allow access to users over the internet.   Can somebody help.
Thanks
J barrera


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2500 series DRAM ???? [7:57811]

2002-11-20 Thread Binh Ma
Hi to all members,

I have old 16mb DRAM modules and would like to reuse them on the 2500 
series routers, but I'm a little unsure if the router will take it. Can 
someone clarify will me what type of DRAM will the 2500 series router 
take, non-parity or parity DRAM modules ?? And how can I tell if my 16mb 
DRAM modules are parity or non-parity type ??

Thank-you members,

rgds,

Binh Ma




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CCIE Home Lab Materials and Equipments [7:57810]

2002-11-20 Thread Godswill HO
Hi group,

I want to get it right the first time. I intend
setting up my CCIE lab at home. I will appreciate if
someone that have taken the lab or preparing for it,
tell me what Switches, Routers, materials I need to
buy.

Also information about the various needed blades on
the switches is important, cables, cards, modules,
etc.

I currently have a cable connection and also a dialup
connection from home to the internet, are these enough
or do I need to get a second cable connection?

I curently have the following books:
1. CCIE Fundametals Network Design and Case Studies 
 2nd Edition by Cisco Press.

2. Routing TCP/IP, volume 1 by Cisco Press (Jeff
Doyle)

also
1. Cisco router 1601
2. Cisco router 2502
3. cisco router 3000

I intend buying Cisco Catalyst Switch 5000 within a
few days, but I need your assistance.


Please I will appreciate an answer for my big brothers
& sisters CCIEs and those who are currently working
towards it.

Thanks in advance.
Godswill Oletu
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RE: Multicast question [7:57774]

2002-11-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
Switches forward multicasts by default. Routers don't.

Priscilla

Hotmail Cisco wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> I have some users who want to use a multicast application
> between different
> vlans.
> Is multicast forwarding turned on by default on 12.1 IOS?
> Would'nt I need to
> config
> something like PIM, IGMP and CGMP on my cat's and routers to do
> this
> efficiently
> or will the IOS just flood multicast packets out all interfaces
> by default?
> Thanks for any clues!
> 
> 




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RE: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]

2002-11-20 Thread Godswill HO
Robert,

Aux could only work if you had configured the router
before now to accept Aux connections.

The only posible solution is for you to go through the
console port.

Using a PC with a Terminal emulator set its parameters
to:
9600 baud rate
No parity
8 data bits
1 stop bit
No flow control

Using the appropraite console cable, connect the
router to the PC, run the terminal software and set
the parameters as suggested above. Then:

1. Switch off the Router

2. Press [Enter Key] to connect to the router (do not 
 mind, you will not see anything displayed on the 
 screen)

3. ON the router and type in the break sequence 
 (depending on your terminal emulaion software and the

 OS you are running, your break sequence could be
 i.Ctrl+Break ii.Ctrl+F6+Break iii.Ctrl+a+f iv.Ctrl+b
 v.Ctrl+End vi. Break vii.control+shift+6+b etc!!!  
 which ever works for you.)

4. Then on Rommon> Type "confreg 0X2142" ..To boot 
 from flash.

5. On rommon > type "Reset"
 This makes the router to boot from flash and ignore 
 its configurations.

6. Type "No" after the setup question of oress Ctrl+C
7. On Router> type "Enable"
8. On Router#type "copy startup-config running-config"
9. On Router# type "Config t"
0. On Router(config-t)# type "config-register 0x2102"
1. On Router(config-t)#type end
2. On Router# type "copy running-config startup-config

With these you are set.

If this work for you Bill, just send me a DEER for
thanksgiving day, else please feel free to ask more
questions.

my 0.2 cents

Regards
Godswill Oletu


--- dayo olabisi  wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> telnet won't work if the router isn't up... I think
> connecting via the Aux port may be of help.
> 
> dayo
> --- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
>  wrote:
> > I'm assuming you don't have VTY access - telnet,
> of
> > course, doesn't care
> > about console port settings...
> > 
> > Bill Creighton CCNP
> > Senior System Engineer
> > Motorola
> > iDEN CNRC Packet Data / MPS
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Robert Massiache
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:27 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for the reply.
> > 
> > The problem is upon boot up I am getting only
> > garbled asci characters and 
> > the screen appears to be frozen. It don't let me
> see
> > anything and type 
> > anything to implement your suggestion...sorrry. I
> > welcome if you could tell 
> > me some alternative...thanks a lot!
> > 
> > thanks
> > Robert M
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > >From: "miken"
> > >To: "Robert Massiache" ,
> > >CC: ,
> > >Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help!
> > >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:52:49 -0700
> > >
> > >I believe the config-register is stored in NVRAM.
> > So in theory, if you 
> > >bypass the startup config, you may default to the
> > standard 
> > >config-register settings. Haven't tried it though
> > to know for sure. 
> > >Have you tried booting into rommon(control-break
> > sequence) and then 
> > >stepping through the confreg steps? 
> >
>
>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products
> > >_comm
> >
>
>and_summary_chapter09186a0080087baf.html#xtocid43127http://www.cisco.com/en
> > /
> >
>
>US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products_command_summary_chapter0918
> > 6
> > >a0080087baf.html#xtocid43127HTH,Mike-
> Original
> > Message -
> > >From: "Robert Massiache" 
> > >To: 
> > >Cc: ; 
> > >Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:39 PM
> > >Subject: Confreg problem...help!
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > I got a mc3810 router and was running perfect.
> > Sometime ago I 
> > > > mistakenly typed a confreg value which I do
> not
> > remeber exactly but 
> > > > I know it was
> > >not
> > >a
> > > > relevant one. I was actually practicing with
> the
> > confreg entries.
> > > >
> > > > What happened was that after I just rebooted
> the
> > router I lost the
> > >console
> > > > screen. I tried with all sorts of console port
> > values like changing 
> > > > the baud-rate, start stop bit etc.
> > > >
> > > > I found it was responding to 1200 baud speed
> but
> > all I could find is
> > >some
> > > > corrupted and garbled ascii characters on the
> > Teraterm. Same is the 
> > > > case with hyprterm.
> > > >
> > > > Any helpers please...
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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RE: passed cit. that's a wrap on ccnp [7:57741]

2002-11-20 Thread John McCartney
I agree from my experience CIT is the hardest with Routing 2nd, Remote 3rd
and Swtiching last. I missed passing the CIT by 6 measly points. I'm taking
it next month again, congrats and keep on going!! Any advice on CIT please
send to my email address.


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Amazon routers [7:57802]

2002-11-20 Thread George Coles
Does anyone have experience with Amazon routers from ACC? I need to put a
7206 in-line to replace a failing Amazon and the commands are difficult to
match up to the Cisco world.  Any help would eb appreciated.


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WLAN Exam [7:57801]

2002-11-20 Thread Brian Ritchie
Hello group,


Does anyone know of any good resources/books for the WLAN exam (9E0-576) ?

Cheers,

Brian


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Re: passed cit. that's a wrap on ccnp [7:57741]

2002-11-20 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I Agree with you.   CIT was probably the easiest for me as well.   Routing
was definately the hardest.  For other studying for the CCNP i reccommend
taking Routing as your 3rd test.  I found myself referring back to my
routing book often while studying for CIT as I had forgotten some of the
fram formats and such.

Jarett


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> hardest.  Anybody else?




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Re: 802.1q trunking [7:57772]

2002-11-20 Thread neal rauhauser
DON'T TRUST THE CODE ON THE 35XX SERIES SWITCHES.



  Sorry for yelling, but its that important. I've seen repeated 
situations like this:


router  switch 1  switch 2


  With a daisy chained configuration like this I've seen multiple 
instances where a vlan that is done correctly on the router won't work 
on switch 2, even though all the links are set up for trunking. I've 
tried forcing this situation with allowed vlan configs and so forth, and 
its just a pain in the you-know-what. It seems less of a hassle with the 
most recent code, but I never go in and offer a design like that - its 
just way, way too risky. PA-FE-TX are about $500 on the aftermarket - 
have them buy you a couple for the 7206, run lines to the switches, and 
handle each one as an individual connection.




Kris Waters wrote:

>Everyone,
>
>Let me explain what I am trying to do. My main building was set up years ago
>with a Class C address scheme. I need to change this for a number of reasons
>and am planning to move it to a 10.X.X.X scheme. I would like to do this on
>a gradual basis.
>
>My building contains the following equipment:
>
>7206VXR router that does internal routing. I have one FastEthernet port on
>this router.
>
>One Catalyst 4006 (Sup2, set based code) switch on the third floor. Both
>these devices run the latest code.
>
>The first and second floors have Catalyst 3500 switches with fiber between
>floors. A VTP domain is set up between the 3 switches.
>
>It was suggested to me to put 3 subinterfaces on the fastethernet port on
>the router and then trunk them to the switch (or switches). I'm not quite
>sure of the best way to go about doing this. I've read numerous tac
>articles, but a little more guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Here is a sample of the code I used on the 7206 to create the subinterfaces:
>interface FastEthernet0/0.1
> encapsulation dot1Q 111
> ip address 10.50.1.1 255.255.255.0
>
>What do I do now? The router is plugged directly into port 4/10 on the 4006.
>Do I create a VLAN 111 on the 4006? Any replies can be copies directly to me
>at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as to the board.
>
>TIA
>Kris




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RE: passed cit. that's a wrap on ccnp [7:57741]

2002-11-20 Thread Mr Joshua
teh hardest?  really?  hm... I found it the easiest and routing the
hardest.  Anybody else?


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RE: Multicast question [7:57774]

2002-11-20 Thread Mr Joshua
I do not think it is turned on by default.  ip multicast-routing is the
command to crank it up.  by default, it will be sent out of all ports on
your Cats.  We are using igmp snooping here.  It is better than cgmp.  We
once opened up a ticket to understand the difference.


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RE: RE: Re: Fw: New CCIE Written Exam [7:57341]

2002-11-20 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
Boson is a good resource, especially test #1 and moreso #3

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I am planning to give CCIE R&S. Can anyone please send me some question bank
which can help me for the exam. Rgds Kavita




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RE: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-20 Thread Mark W. Odette II
Andrew-

Without having done this, I could be wrong, but from your excerpt "You
can think of the ephones with the numbers that were assigned to the
ephone-dn's as FXS ports on the routers.", I would say then that all you
have to do is create your dial-plan, and then define VOIP Dial-peers
with the destination target being the IP address of the IP Phones.  If
it is that simple, then you will up and running in a heartbeat.

Be sure and look at cisco's router to router (FXS to FXS) dial-peer
samples to get an idea of your syntax.  You may have to play around with
voice quality settings though.

Good luck

Mark (Aspiring AVVID Engineer/Architect) :)
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From: Andrew Dorsett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

Bruce -
Actually I'm not missing any pieces.  Check out this link on the CCO to
see exactly what I'm trying to accomplish:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_e
xample09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#background

The router (3640,etc) utilizes the ITS feature set to act as the call
manager for the network and create a small IP Key system without a few
of
the call manager features that I don't need in this case.  And yes I
want
to use the 79xx phones behind the switch that I didn't mention is behind
the
router.  I will use the FXO
ports on the router to plug the incoming lines into.  The page shows
everything from how to do hold music to how to configure the phones XML
interface.  However it leaves out the PSTN setup section which is where
I'm stuck at.  I think I can do a session target to the ephone-dn but
I'm
not sure of the syntax.

"Configuring the PSTN Connection on the Cisco ITS Router
Assuming that the ITS router has voice interface cards, you will now
want
to configure those cards so that calls can be placed to and from the IP
phones.  This is not significantly different than other voice
connections
on a router.  You can think of the ephones with the numbers that were
assigned to the ephone-dn's as FXS ports on the routers."

Thanks,
Andrew

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Bruce Enders wrote:

> Andrew,
> You are asking how to set something up without all the pieces
necessary
> to make it work. And you are describing developing a dialplan that
does
> not adhere to common conventions. That part is okay, you can define
how
> you route calls in-to and out-of your own voice network pretty much
any
> way you want.
> The 3640 with an analog FXO is okay to act as a gateway to the PSTN.
The
> same router with FXS VIC ALSO will allow you to connect and originate
> calls internally. However, you state you want to place "VOIP" phones
on
> the network behind the 3640. What "VOIP" phones would those be? If you
> mean 79XX series IP Telephones from Cisco, you also need a CallManager
> Server to control those phones.
> As far as the dialing rules in this network, it is up to you what you
use
> to direct calls out to the world. Using "9" to classify all telephone
> numbers that follow it as being sent to the PSTN is a convention not a
> rule. The only real rule is that you have to give the system the means
to
> route a call based on what the User dials. AND, if you are handing the
> call off to the PSTN or any other telephone switch, you have to give
that
> switch the call routing information  (telephone number) that it needs
to
> route the call.
> In coming calls are a whole different topic. Try reading one of the
many
> VoX books that are now available.
> Hope this helps,
> Bruce
>
> Andrew Dorsett wrote:
>
>   Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my
question. 
I
>   want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the
FXO's.
>   Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN
to
>   the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP
phones
> over
>   the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to
dial
>   an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
>   any special steps.
>
>   Thanks,
>   Andrew
>
>   On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:
>
> Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a
3640
> with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP
phones
> on
> a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO
and
have
> found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO
>
>   configuration.
>
> However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the
> outside
> world.  I basically need one that would say "all 4 digit dialed
calls
are
> VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers."
And
> another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls
from
> the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and
I
want
> it
> as line 1 on my phones, and
> 555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found

Re: pix vpn [7:57740]

2002-11-20 Thread Richard Deal
Ciaron,

You know, I've been impatiently waiting for the same feature. When I teach
classes that are remote for Boson, we use a 3002 and a router. I need to set
up a GRE tunnel and then encrypt this tunnel. And because this stuff
typically goes through a firewall, I need a TCP VPN connection. It would be
great if Cisco's routers supported this feature; then I could get read of
the 3002 and 3005 and just use two routers as the endpoints of the
connection. If anyone knows if/when Cisco has plans for adding this feature
to their routers and PIXs, I'm sure quite a few people would be interested
in this information.

Cheers
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RE: RE: Re: Fw: New CCIE Written Exam [7:57341]

2002-11-20 Thread Silju Pillai
You can get practice questions from sites like boson, certificationzone etc.

regards


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RE: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]

2002-11-20 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
Dayo,
Robert never stated the router was down, only that the console screen went
haywire.

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To: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
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Subject: RE: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]


Bill,

telnet won't work if the router isn't up... I think
connecting via the Aux port may be of help.

dayo
--- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
 wrote:
> I'm assuming you don't have VTY access - telnet, of
> course, doesn't care
> about console port settings...
> 
> Bill Creighton CCNP
> Senior System Engineer
> Motorola
> iDEN CNRC Packet Data / MPS
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Massiache
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> The problem is upon boot up I am getting only
> garbled asci characters and
> the screen appears to be frozen. It don't let me see
> anything and type 
> anything to implement your suggestion...sorrry. I
> welcome if you could tell 
> me some alternative...thanks a lot!
> 
> thanks
> Robert M
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "miken"
> >To: "Robert Massiache" ,
> >CC: ,
> >Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help!
> >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:52:49 -0700
> >
> >I believe the config-register is stored in NVRAM.
> So in theory, if you
> >bypass the startup config, you may default to the
> standard
> >config-register settings. Haven't tried it though
> to know for sure.
> >Have you tried booting into rommon(control-break
> sequence) and then
> >stepping through the confreg steps?
>
>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products
> >_comm
>
>and_summary_chapter09186a0080087baf.html#xtocid43127http://www.cisco.co
>m/en
> /
>
>US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products_command_summary_chapter
>0918
> 6
> >a0080087baf.html#xtocid43127HTH,Mike- Original
> Message -
> >From: "Robert Massiache"
> >To: 
> >Cc: ; 
> >Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:39 PM
> >Subject: Confreg problem...help!
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I got a mc3810 router and was running perfect.
> Sometime ago I
> > > mistakenly typed a confreg value which I do not
> remeber exactly but
> > > I know it was
> >not
> >a
> > > relevant one. I was actually practicing with the
> confreg entries.
> > >
> > > What happened was that after I just rebooted the
> router I lost the
> >console
> > > screen. I tried with all sorts of console port
> values like changing
> > > the baud-rate, start stop bit etc.
> > >
> > > I found it was responding to 1200 baud speed but
> all I could find is
> >some
> > > corrupted and garbled ascii characters on the
> Teraterm. Same is the
> > > case with hyprterm.
> > >
> > > Any helpers please...
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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RE: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]

2002-11-20 Thread dayo olabisi
Bill,

telnet won't work if the router isn't up... I think
connecting via the Aux port may be of help.

dayo
--- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
 wrote:
> I'm assuming you don't have VTY access - telnet, of
> course, doesn't care
> about console port settings...
> 
> Bill Creighton CCNP
> Senior System Engineer
> Motorola
> iDEN CNRC Packet Data / MPS
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Robert Massiache
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:27 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]
> 
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> The problem is upon boot up I am getting only
> garbled asci characters and 
> the screen appears to be frozen. It don't let me see
> anything and type 
> anything to implement your suggestion...sorrry. I
> welcome if you could tell 
> me some alternative...thanks a lot!
> 
> thanks
> Robert M
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >From: "miken"
> >To: "Robert Massiache" ,
> >CC: ,
> >Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help!
> >Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:52:49 -0700
> >
> >I believe the config-register is stored in NVRAM.
> So in theory, if you 
> >bypass the startup config, you may default to the
> standard 
> >config-register settings. Haven't tried it though
> to know for sure. 
> >Have you tried booting into rommon(control-break
> sequence) and then 
> >stepping through the confreg steps? 
>
>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products
> >_comm
>
>and_summary_chapter09186a0080087baf.html#xtocid43127http://www.cisco.com/en
> /
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> Message -
> >From: "Robert Massiache" 
> >To: 
> >Cc: ; 
> >Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:39 PM
> >Subject: Confreg problem...help!
> >
> >
> > > Hi,
> > > I got a mc3810 router and was running perfect.
> Sometime ago I 
> > > mistakenly typed a confreg value which I do not
> remeber exactly but 
> > > I know it was
> >not
> >a
> > > relevant one. I was actually practicing with the
> confreg entries.
> > >
> > > What happened was that after I just rebooted the
> router I lost the
> >console
> > > screen. I tried with all sorts of console port
> values like changing 
> > > the baud-rate, start stop bit etc.
> > >
> > > I found it was responding to 1200 baud speed but
> all I could find is
> >some
> > > corrupted and garbled ascii characters on the
> Teraterm. Same is the 
> > > case with hyprterm.
> > >
> > > Any helpers please...
> > >
> > > thanks
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
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RE: HSRP - Cat4006 stuck in INIT state [7:57771]

2002-11-20 Thread dayo olabisi
Hey,

upgrade the OS on the switch to 6.3.6 / 7.2.1 or
higher and you should be fine. Check out the last
section of this url:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/customer/473/62.shtml

dayo
--- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
 wrote:
> Can we see your running config for the HSRP group
> setup?
> 
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: HSRP - Cat4006 stuck in INIT state
> [7:57771]
> 
> 
> Trying to test HSRP between 2 Cat4006s running IOS
> 12.1(8a)EW1.
> 
> 'Sho standby brief' says that the vlan routing never
> gets switched over to
> standy router and stays in the "INIT" state.
> 
> Rtr 1 is standby for VLAN2
> Rtr 2 is active for VLAN2
> 
> perform a shutdown on interface VLAN2 on rtr 2;
> 
> 'sho stand brief' gives no ip addresses for active
> and standby rtrs., but
> instead both say "INIT".
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> tia,
> Mary
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OSPF Filtering [7:57789]

2002-11-20 Thread Sanjay Tathare
In a hub and spoke WAN topology, OSPF is configured as area 0 in core and
area 1 on the spoke routers. One of the spoke router is connected has two
router in that area 1. I wanted to allow only two subnets to be available in
the end router R4. Is this possible to control the routes filtering from
interface connecting between R3 and R4?
I want to allow routes for only 2 subnets to be advertised from R3 to R4. I
dont want to apply any distribution list IN on R4. As I cant apply
distribution list OUT on the interface connecting between R3 & R4.
Is their any solution, apart from area filter list on ABR [R2]  ? 

R1-R2--R3R4 
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RE: Multicast [7:57773]

2002-11-20 Thread Fernandez, Tim
Yes, yes and yes but, only certain cats support igmp snooping.

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Subject: Multicast [7:57773]


Hi,
I have some users who want to use a multicast application between different
vlans. Is multicast forwarding turned on by default on 12.1 IOS? Would'nt I
need to config something like PIM, IGMP and CGMP on my cat's and routers to
do this efficiently or will the IOS just flood multicast packets out all
interfaces by default? Thanks for any clues!




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RE: Cisco Secure ACS [7:57775]

2002-11-20 Thread Elijah Savage III
There is no default username and password.

What you need to do is be on the server you installed it on and point
your web browser to 127.0.0.1:2002 this will put you right into the
administrators screen from there you add the usernames and passwords. To
add an administrator so you can administer this box from across the
network go to administrator control button then add a admin.

That should do it.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 11:05 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cisco Secure ACS [7:57775]


Does anybody know the default username and password for a vanilla
install of Cisco Secure ACS for Windows version 3.0??  I'm being
prompted for a username and password to login, but can't find one in the
documentation.  I tried the password recovery procedure, but there are
no adminstrators created yet... help needed and appreciated.

Thanks in advance

CG

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RE: HSRP - Cat4006 stuck in INIT state [7:57771]

2002-11-20 Thread Daniel Cotts
Here's some links on CCO:
pad
pad
pad
Avoiding HSRP Instability in a Switching Environment with Various
Router Platforms
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/619/8.shtml

Understanding and Troubleshooting HSRP Problems in Catalyst Switch Networks
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/62.shtml

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:38 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: HSRP - Cat4006 stuck in INIT state [7:57771]
> 
> 
> Trying to test HSRP between 2 Cat4006s running IOS 12.1(8a)EW1.
> 
> 'Sho standby brief' says that the vlan routing never gets 
> switched over to
> standy router and stays in the "INIT" state.
> 
> Rtr 1 is standby for VLAN2
> Rtr 2 is active for VLAN2
> 
> perform a shutdown on interface VLAN2 on rtr 2;
> 
> 'sho stand brief' gives no ip addresses for active and 
> standby rtrs., but
> instead both say "INIT".
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> tia,
> Mary




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RE: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]

2002-11-20 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
I'm assuming you don't have VTY access - telnet, of course, doesn't care
about console port settings...

Bill Creighton CCNP
Senior System Engineer
Motorola
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-Original Message-
From: Robert Massiache [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:27 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help! [7:57732]


Thanks for the reply.

The problem is upon boot up I am getting only garbled asci characters and 
the screen appears to be frozen. It don't let me see anything and type 
anything to implement your suggestion...sorrry. I welcome if you could tell 
me some alternative...thanks a lot!

thanks
Robert M






>From: "miken"
>To: "Robert Massiache" ,
>CC: ,
>Subject: Re: Confreg problem...help!
>Date: Tue, 19 Nov 2002 00:52:49 -0700
>
>I believe the config-register is stored in NVRAM. So in theory, if you 
>bypass the startup config, you may default to the standard 
>config-register settings. Haven't tried it though to know for sure. 
>Have you tried booting into rommon(control-break sequence) and then 
>stepping through the confreg steps? 
>http://www.cisco.com/en/US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products
>_comm
>and_summary_chapter09186a0080087baf.html#xtocid43127http://www.cisco.com/en
/
>US/partner/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products_command_summary_chapter0918
6
>a0080087baf.html#xtocid43127HTH,Mike- Original Message -
>From: "Robert Massiache" 
>To: 
>Cc: ; 
>Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:39 PM
>Subject: Confreg problem...help!
>
>
> > Hi,
> > I got a mc3810 router and was running perfect. Sometime ago I 
> > mistakenly typed a confreg value which I do not remeber exactly but 
> > I know it was
>not
>a
> > relevant one. I was actually practicing with the confreg entries.
> >
> > What happened was that after I just rebooted the router I lost the
>console
> > screen. I tried with all sorts of console port values like changing 
> > the baud-rate, start stop bit etc.
> >
> > I found it was responding to 1200 baud speed but all I could find is
>some
> > corrupted and garbled ascii characters on the Teraterm. Same is the 
> > case with hyprterm.
> >
> > Any helpers please...
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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RE: 802.1q trunking [7:57772]

2002-11-20 Thread Roberts, Larry
Is this all 1 flat VLAN now ? If so, read below:

If so , and you just want to migrate, I would assign a secondary address to
the FE port on the Router that is a 10.x.x.x scheme that you want.
This will allow you to have both active and not need to worry about what
port that a PC is plugged into.
Otherwise, you will be changing the IP of the PC then changing its port VLAN
membership on the switch.

The method that you are trying will work, but it's a more work then you need
to do if your just migrating from one IP name space to the other.

If you assign a secondary address to the router, all you will need to do is
to change the IP of the PC's and reboot.
If your running DHCP, change its scope so it hands out 10.x.x.x address's
and as the current leases expire, they will get a new one. Once all the old
address space is gone, just go into the router and type the ip address
10.x.x.x.x command without secondary on the end. This will move this IP to
the primary address and remove the old address from the router. Tada, your
done.

If you want to use separate subnets on each floor, then you would need to
use sub-interfaces which I am sure others will cover in detail. If not, I
will jump back in.

Thanks

Larry
 

-Original Message-
From: Kris Waters [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 10:47 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 802.1q trunking [7:57772]


Everyone,

Let me explain what I am trying to do. My main building was set up years ago
with a Class C address scheme. I need to change this for a number of reasons
and am planning to move it to a 10.X.X.X scheme. I would like to do this on
a gradual basis.

My building contains the following equipment:

7206VXR router that does internal routing. I have one FastEthernet port on
this router.

One Catalyst 4006 (Sup2, set based code) switch on the third floor. Both
these devices run the latest code.

The first and second floors have Catalyst 3500 switches with fiber between
floors. A VTP domain is set up between the 3 switches.

It was suggested to me to put 3 subinterfaces on the fastethernet port on
the router and then trunk them to the switch (or switches). I'm not quite
sure of the best way to go about doing this. I've read numerous tac
articles, but a little more guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Here is a sample of the code I used on the 7206 to create the subinterfaces:
interface FastEthernet0/0.1  encapsulation dot1Q 111  ip address 10.50.1.1
255.255.255.0

What do I do now? The router is plugged directly into port 4/10 on the 4006.
Do I create a VLAN 111 on the 4006? Any replies can be copies directly to me
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as to the board.

TIA
Kris




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Confused from London [7:57780]

2002-11-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Someone asked me a question which confused me:-
If i ping a network broadcast from a host on a different network, which
passes through a cisco router why do i get replies from certain devices.

The router has directed broadcast forwarding disabled.
I thought the router would therefore drop the packet

Any thoughts
Thanks
-P




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Re: 828 3des Performance [7:57703]

2002-11-20 Thread Richard Deal
Arni,

Thanks for the kudos!

Just do a search on Cisco's web site for "+router +encryption +throughput".
Unfortunately, the only place I've ever seen this information brought
together was Cisco's official course material (like the CSVPN coursebook).
Hope this helps.

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RE: VPN Connectivity using PIX [7:57764]

2002-11-20 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
What version on the PIX and are you using Win98 2nd edition?

Bill Creighton CCNP
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Subject: Re: VPN Connectivity using PIX [7:57764]


Hi all
I am trying to connect Cisco PIX 515 via PPTP  using Windows98's Microsoft
VPN Adaptor ,but I am unable top get though.When I am trying to ping PIX
firewall ,I am able to ping,but vpn tunnel is not getting established .What
could be the problem ? When I am trying to form a PPTP VPN  tunnel to the
same PIX using Windows 2000 machine, I am able to connect ,but using Win 98
I am not, What could be the problem.Any help would be highly appreciated.
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Cisco Secure ACS [7:57775]

2002-11-20 Thread Ciaron Gogarty
Does anybody know the default username and password for a vanilla install of
Cisco Secure ACS for Windows version 3.0??  I'm being prompted for a
username and password to login, but can't find one in the documentation.  I
tried the password recovery procedure, but there are no adminstrators
created yet... help needed and appreciated.

Thanks in advance

CG

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RE: HSRP - Cat4006 stuck in INIT state [7:57771]

2002-11-20 Thread Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
Can we see your running config for the HSRP group setup?

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Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 9:38 AM
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Subject: HSRP - Cat4006 stuck in INIT state [7:57771]


Trying to test HSRP between 2 Cat4006s running IOS 12.1(8a)EW1.

'Sho standby brief' says that the vlan routing never gets switched over to
standy router and stays in the "INIT" state.

Rtr 1 is standby for VLAN2
Rtr 2 is active for VLAN2

perform a shutdown on interface VLAN2 on rtr 2;

'sho stand brief' gives no ip addresses for active and standby rtrs., but
instead both say "INIT".

Any ideas?

tia,
Mary




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Re: 802.1q trunking [7:57772]

2002-11-20 Thread The Long and Winding Road
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> Everyone,
>
> Let me explain what I am trying to do. My main building was set up years
ago
> with a Class C address scheme. I need to change this for a number of
reasons
> and am planning to move it to a 10.X.X.X scheme. I would like to do this
on
> a gradual basis.
>
> My building contains the following equipment:
>
> 7206VXR router that does internal routing. I have one FastEthernet port on
> this router.
>
> One Catalyst 4006 (Sup2, set based code) switch on the third floor. Both
> these devices run the latest code.
>
> The first and second floors have Catalyst 3500 switches with fiber between
> floors. A VTP domain is set up between the 3 switches.
>
> It was suggested to me to put 3 subinterfaces on the fastethernet port on
> the router and then trunk them to the switch (or switches). I'm not quite
> sure of the best way to go about doing this. I've read numerous tac
> articles, but a little more guidance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Here is a sample of the code I used on the 7206 to create the
subinterfaces:
> interface FastEthernet0/0.1
>  encapsulation dot1Q 111
>  ip address 10.50.1.1 255.255.255.0
>
> What do I do now? The router is plugged directly into port 4/10 on the
4006.
> Do I create a VLAN 111 on the 4006? Any replies can be copies directly to
me
>



CL: the 4006 port in question should also be configured as a dot1q trunk.



at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as to the board.
>
> TIA
> Kris




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802.1q trunking [7:57772]

2002-11-20 Thread Kris Waters
Everyone,

Let me explain what I am trying to do. My main building was set up years ago
with a Class C address scheme. I need to change this for a number of reasons
and am planning to move it to a 10.X.X.X scheme. I would like to do this on
a gradual basis.

My building contains the following equipment:

7206VXR router that does internal routing. I have one FastEthernet port on
this router.

One Catalyst 4006 (Sup2, set based code) switch on the third floor. Both
these devices run the latest code.

The first and second floors have Catalyst 3500 switches with fiber between
floors. A VTP domain is set up between the 3 switches.

It was suggested to me to put 3 subinterfaces on the fastethernet port on
the router and then trunk them to the switch (or switches). I'm not quite
sure of the best way to go about doing this. I've read numerous tac
articles, but a little more guidance would be greatly appreciated.

Here is a sample of the code I used on the 7206 to create the subinterfaces:
interface FastEthernet0/0.1
 encapsulation dot1Q 111
 ip address 10.50.1.1 255.255.255.0

What do I do now? The router is plugged directly into port 4/10 on the 4006.
Do I create a VLAN 111 on the 4006? Any replies can be copies directly to me
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] as well as to the board.

TIA
Kris


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Multicast [7:57773]

2002-11-20 Thread Hotmail Cisco
Hi,
I have some users who want to use a multicast application between different
vlans.
Is multicast forwarding turned on by default on 12.1 IOS? Would'nt I need to
config
something like PIM, IGMP and CGMP on my cat's and routers to do this
efficiently
or will the IOS just flood multicast packets out all interfaces by default?
Thanks for any clues!




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Multicast question [7:57774]

2002-11-20 Thread Hotmail Cisco
Hi,
I have some users who want to use a multicast application between different
vlans.
Is multicast forwarding turned on by default on 12.1 IOS? Would'nt I need to
config
something like PIM, IGMP and CGMP on my cat's and routers to do this
efficiently
or will the IOS just flood multicast packets out all interfaces by default?
Thanks for any clues!




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HSRP - Cat4006 stuck in INIT state [7:57771]

2002-11-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Trying to test HSRP between 2 Cat4006s running IOS 12.1(8a)EW1.

'Sho standby brief' says that the vlan routing never gets switched over to
standy router and stays in the "INIT" state.

Rtr 1 is standby for VLAN2
Rtr 2 is active for VLAN2

perform a shutdown on interface VLAN2 on rtr 2;

'sho stand brief' gives no ip addresses for active and standby rtrs., but
instead both say "INIT".

Any ideas?

tia,
Mary




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class vc [7:57770]

2002-11-20 Thread Domingo Ferrero
Hi,

I want to configure the vc-class in one 7500 cisco series and I would if
somebody have one example of this configuration.

Thanks and regards,

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Re: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-20 Thread Andrew Dorsett
Bruce -
Actually I'm not missing any pieces.  Check out this link on the CCO to
see exactly what I'm trying to accomplish:
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#background

The router (3640,etc) utilizes the ITS feature set to act as the call
manager for the network and create a small IP Key system without a few of
the call manager features that I don't need in this case.  And yes I want
to use the 79xx phones behind the switch that I didn't mention is behind the
router.  I will use the FXO
ports on the router to plug the incoming lines into.  The page shows
everything from how to do hold music to how to configure the phones XML
interface.  However it leaves out the PSTN setup section which is where
I'm stuck at.  I think I can do a session target to the ephone-dn but I'm
not sure of the syntax.

"Configuring the PSTN Connection on the Cisco ITS Router
Assuming that the ITS router has voice interface cards, you will now want
to configure those cards so that calls can be placed to and from the IP
phones.  This is not significantly different than other voice connections
on a router.  You can think of the ephones with the numbers that were
assigned to the ephone-dn's as FXS ports on the routers."

Thanks,
Andrew

On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, Bruce Enders wrote:

> Andrew,
> You are asking how to set something up without all the pieces necessary
> to make it work. And you are describing developing a dialplan that does
> not adhere to common conventions. That part is okay, you can define how
> you route calls in-to and out-of your own voice network pretty much any
> way you want.
> The 3640 with an analog FXO is okay to act as a gateway to the PSTN. The
> same router with FXS VIC ALSO will allow you to connect and originate
> calls internally. However, you state you want to place "VOIP" phones on
> the network behind the 3640. What "VOIP" phones would those be? If you
> mean 79XX series IP Telephones from Cisco, you also need a CallManager
> Server to control those phones.
> As far as the dialing rules in this network, it is up to you what you use
> to direct calls out to the world. Using "9" to classify all telephone
> numbers that follow it as being sent to the PSTN is a convention not a
> rule. The only real rule is that you have to give the system the means to
> route a call based on what the User dials. AND, if you are handing the
> call off to the PSTN or any other telephone switch, you have to give that
> switch the call routing information  (telephone number) that it needs to
> route the call.
> In coming calls are a whole different topic. Try reading one of the many
> VoX books that are now available.
> Hope this helps,
> Bruce
>
> Andrew Dorsett wrote:
>
>   Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my question. 
I
>   want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the FXO's.
>   Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN to
>   the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP phones
> over
>   the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to dial
>   an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
>   any special steps.
>
>   Thanks,
>   Andrew
>
>   On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:
>
> Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a 3640
> with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP phones
> on
> a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO and
have
> found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO
>
>   configuration.
>
> However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the
> outside
> world.  I basically need one that would say "all 4 digit dialed calls
are
> VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers."  And
> another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls from
> the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and I
want
> it
> as line 1 on my phones, and
> 555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found how to map
the
> inbound calls to a VoIP extension.
>
> 555-1221 -- | ||  | ||
> |  3640   ||SWITCH|-|IP Phone|
> 555-1234 -- | ||  | ||
>
> My primary info source has been:
>
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#ITS3660
>
> Thanks,
> Andrew
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Caller ID Conf. How to?? [7:57768]

2002-11-20 Thread Magdy H. Ibrahim
Hi all,
I want your help to run the Caller ID feature on my Cisco 3661 access
router..
Do I need to specific version of IOS??
I am running ACS2.6 as my authentication sever, and this ACS able to view
the caller id..
the exchange already ran the Caller Id feature on my Dialed number which my
clients dial it to access the internet...
Also do I need extra conf. to make my cisco 3660 to send the caller id to my
ACS2.6???

Please advice me ASAP

Thanx in advance

Magdy




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CSSP [7:57767]

2002-11-20 Thread maine dude
Hi,

Does anyone have any info on the new SAFE exam for the cssp?

Regards,

DJ




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RE: CCSP [7:57713]

2002-11-20 Thread Godswill HO
If you take one of the 3 specialized courses plus MCNS
exam, you become a Specialist in that area eg
1. CSPFA+MCNS = Firewall Specialist
2. CSVPN+MCNS = VPN specialist
3. IDSPM+MCNS = IDS Specialsit

For a Limited time more:
CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS = CSS1

Also
CSPFA+CSVPN+IDSPM+MCNS+SAFE= CCSP

>From now till 09/03
People like my humble self who already have the CSS1
designation would need take only the SAFE exam to
become CCSP.

I did not see any true meaning to all these. Cisco
should know better.

my 0.02 

Regards
Godswill 
CCNP,CCDP,CSS1




(CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for
> VPN, and CSIDS for IDS)
--- Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
 wrote:
> Nevermind - sometime earlier they enabled the
> links...
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Creighton Bill-BCREIGH1
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 3:07 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCSP [7:57713]
> 
> 
> Good Info!
> I tried following the link for those new Specialist
> certs on Cisco's site,
> but the link is broken - are Specialists defined now
> by completing only the
> individual exams? (CSPFA for Firewall, CSVPN for
> VPN, and CSIDS for IDS)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: ""Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:""Peter.Walker:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCSP [7:57713]
> 
> 
> Joshua
> 
> The CCSP is basically just a realignment of the
> current Cisco Security
> Specialist 1 certification into the Cisco
> Professional track. It does add
> one more exam to the requirements but other than
> that no real change. Cisco
> has even 'generously' allowed current CSS1s to take
> the remaining exam to
> get the cert. :-)
> 
> As for the new specialist level certs, they are just
> dumbed down
> ^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H more focussed variations of
> the CSS1.
> 
> I really dont think Cisco have thought this one
> through as anyone who
> attains CCSP (with the current versions of the
> exams), will also
> automatically get three specialist level certs. In
> my opinion this totally
> devalues the specialist level certs. They should be
> something that takes
> specific specialised skill and knowledge to attain,
> not something you get
> for free as part of the process of attaining an
> intermediate level
> professional qualification.
> 
> Peter Walker
>   CISSP, CSS1, CITPSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP, etc
> 
> (Putting flame proof clothing on)
> 
> Joshua Green wrote:
> > 
> > Anyone else hear about the new CCSP cert that
> Cisco is offering?!
> > It's about time!  Although I wish some of the
> other Professional level 
> > certs would count towards it in some way...  I
> also like the three new 
> > Specialist level certs!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > 
> > Joshua Green; MCSE, CCNA
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > 2040 Timberbrooke Drive
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> > (217) 793.6275 fax
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Re: VoIP Question AGAIN... [7:57747]

2002-11-20 Thread Bruce Enders
Andrew,
You are asking how to set something up without all the pieces necessary
to make it work. And you are describing developing a dialplan that does
not adhere to common conventions. That part is okay, you can define how
you route calls in-to and out-of your own voice network pretty much any
way you want.
The 3640 with an analog FXO is okay to act as a gateway to the PSTN. The
same router with FXS VIC ALSO will allow you to connect and originate
calls internally. However, you state you want to place "VOIP" phones on
the network behind the 3640. What "VOIP" phones would those be? If you
mean 79XX series IP Telephones from Cisco, you also need a CallManager
Server to control those phones.
As far as the dialing rules in this network, it is up to you what you use
to direct calls out to the world. Using "9" to classify all telephone
numbers that follow it as being sent to the PSTN is a convention not a
rule. The only real rule is that you have to give the system the means to
route a call based on what the User dials. AND, if you are handing the
call off to the PSTN or any other telephone switch, you have to give that
switch the call routing information  (telephone number) that it needs to
route the call.
In coming calls are a whole different topic. Try reading one of the many
VoX books that are now available.
Hope this helps,
Bruce

Andrew Dorsett wrote:

  Second call for this one.  I never received any answers to my question.  I
  want to know how to setup the link between the VoIP phones and the FXO's.
  Basically a dialplan, but how do I route inbound calls from the PSTN to
  the VoIP phones?  And how do I route outbound calls from the VoIP phones
over
  the FXO to the PSTN?  I would like to avoid a system that uses 9 to dial
  an outside line.  I want to do direct dialing to the PSTN without
  any special steps.
  
  Thanks,
  Andrew
  
  On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Andrew Dorsett wrote:

Hey everyone, I'm playing with an idea.  I want to get ahold of a 3640
with FXO's and interface it to the PSTN and connect to some VOIP phones
on
a network behind it.  I have done all of my research on the CCO and have
found how to configure everything for phone connection and FXO

  configuration.

However I haven't found out how to configure dialplans to dial the
outside
world.  I basically need one that would say "all 4 digit dialed calls are
VoIP phones and all other numbers are outside PSTN phone numbers."  And
another question that I haven't found is how to link inbound calls from
the PSTN to my VoIP phones.  Say I have 555-1221 for one line and I want
it
as line 1 on my phones, and
555-1234 as the other line on my phones.  I haven't found how to map the
inbound calls to a VoIP extension.

555-1221 -- | ||  | ||
|  3640   ||SWITCH|-|IP Phone|
555-1234 -- | ||  | ||

My primary info source has been:

 
http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk652/tk701/technologies_configuration_example09186a00800ffdcc.shtml#ITS3660

Thanks,
Andrew
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Re: VPN Connectivity using PIX [7:57764]

2002-11-20 Thread Mr piyush shah
Hi all
I am trying to connect Cisco PIX 515 via PPTP  using
Windows98's Microsoft VPN Adaptor ,but I am unable top
get though.When I am trying to ping PIX firewall ,I am
able to ping,but vpn tunnel is not getting established
.What could be the problem ?
When I am trying to form a PPTP VPN  tunnel to the
same PIX using Windows 2000 machine, I am able to
connect ,but using Win 98 I am not,
What could be the problem.Any help would be highly
appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Piyush


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Re: 828 3des Performance [7:57703]

2002-11-20 Thread Arni V. Skarphedinsson
I just realizied who you are, and that I am reading your book "Cisco PIX
Firewalls" :)

it´s a small networking world.

I think it´s a great book, and has give me a lot of information about
working with the cisco PIX.

Thanx again.

p.s. and if anyone knows of a link to www.cisco.com, that I can see the
Ipsec throughput performance numbers for 3des on, especialy for the 800
series routers, please let me know.

Best regards,
Arni 


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Re: CISSP Certification [7:57757]

2002-11-20 Thread
Johan

You could try http://www.isc2.org

Peter Walker

Johan Bornman wrote:
> 
> Can somebody please send me a url where I can find out more about this
> certification.




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RE: CISSP Certification [7:57757]

2002-11-20 Thread Jay Dunn
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Can somebody please send me a url where I can find out more about this
certification.




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RE: CISSP Certification [7:57757]

2002-11-20 Thread Symon Thurlow
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Can somebody please send me a url where I can find out more about this
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