RE: CCIE Power Sessions 2003 [7:72222]

2003-07-13 Thread Reimer, Fred
No, not yet.  I just took the (CCIE) power session in LA last week.  They
are supposed to come out with a URL or some other type of access to all who
attended via email in the next week or two.  Believe me, the power session
was unbelievable.  There was a lot of information that was candid and
up-front.  I don't think it would be fair to make the material available to
those that did not pay for the conference to those that did not.  That's
just my view on it, but to each their own...


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Anyone aware of URL for 2003 networkers power session?
 
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RE: Any LANE on CCNP switching [7:72197]

2003-07-13 Thread David Vital
it doesn't seem like anyone wants to commit and possibly tell you not to
worry about LANE when you might have some questions on it in the test.  From
everything I have seen on line, in the books I have recently studied and
from the BCMSN class I took last week, I would say NO>  I don't think there
are any LANE questions on the 640-604 test.

David


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CCIE Power Sessions 2003 [7:72222]

2003-07-13 Thread Matrix_pk
Anyone aware of URL for 2003 networkers power session?
 
Thanks,
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Re: CCIE:Security Practical Studies [7:72162]

2003-07-13 Thread Jason Viera
What bothers me is that Cisco's implementation of a protocol doesn't always
match the RFC. At least from my limited experience in reading the RFC's;
OSPF for example should not be able to summarize the backbone area, but in
Cisco's implementation of OSPF you can summarize area 0. I hear Cisco might
remove that from the IOS, but who knows. On the other hand if you can wade
through the RFC's your understanding of how the protocol was intended to
work, will increase dramatically. I wish I had the time to get deep into the
RFC's, but unfortunately at this point in my studies it probably isn't going
to help me in the Lab in a few weeks. As always, I appreciate any insight
from the rest of the group!

Regards, Jason



""Howard C. Berkowitz""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> At 3:44 PM + 7/13/03, Hemingway wrote:
> >""Jason Viera""  wrote in message
> >news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  The individuals writing the book probably aren't privy to any exam
> content
> >>  changes that are around the corner unless they are a part of the CCIE
> >team,
> >>  another misconception is that Cisco Press  is in close contact with
> >>  technology changes that Cisco Systems is actually working on. What
many
> >>  people don't understand is that it takes a while to write and publish
a
> >book
> >>  in a cost effective manner,
> >
> >I don't know about the back end production part ( final copy,
typesetting,
> >printing, distribution )
>
> 3-6 months, depending on the publisher and priority.  Of course,
> distribution gets variable with the priorities of the booksellers.
>
> There may be several months of negotiation before the contract and
> outline are approved.
>
> I've written books in anywhere between 3 and 12 months.
>
> >
> >
> >One should be reading the command references, reading the config quides,
and
> >concentrating on fundamentals. Any routing protocol over NMBA ( with all
> >possible combinations for the links ), ISDN backup options,
authentication
> >anyplace it is possible, redistribution between any two porotocols ( with
> >all possible mechanisms for doing so ). The presence of the 3550's has
not
> >changed any of the fundamentals one needs to master.
> >
> >An important Lab skill is finding things on the CD.
> >
> >Much as I may or may not like it intellectually, practically speaking,
there
> >is little need to spend time reading RFC's in prep for the lab. I've been
> >there enough to state categorically that I have seen nothing that made me
> >wish I spent more time with the RFC's and plenty to make me wish I'd
spent
> >more time with Cisco's docs and with configuring things based on the
topics
> >stated above.
>
> I might suggest there's benefit in what I might call reading "beyond"
> the RFCs, or spending less effort on the protocol specifications and
> more on the working group mailing list and on the RFCs that introduce
> extensions to deal with hard problems for the regular protocol.  The
> RIP RFC does have an excellent discussion of split horizon and poison
> reverse. Harder to read, but there, is a great deal of the underlying
> principles of redistribution in OSPF.  I only really understood BGP
> after getting the sense of RPSL. RFC1812, the Router Requirements
> Document, gives lots of answers.  Our work on BGP performance,
> hopefully on its way to getting an RFC number, clarifies ambiguous
> definitions in 1771
> (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-conterm-05.txt)
> Draft 21 (last I looked) of the revised 1771 is far more accurate and
> informative.
>
> >
> >The CCIE Lab is about configuring Cisco equipment in a manner that
satifies
> >the requirements of Cisco's test. Nothing more. Nothing less.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>  Jason
> >>  ""NKP""  wrote in message
> >>  news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>  > I dont think that the book is all that bad , probably I am an
> >>  > amateur in Security .
> >>  > The thing I still can not understand is why is it that that
> when
> >a
> >>  > CCIE Practical Studies book is published by Cisco Press , some  of
> there
> >>  > topics become obsolete in a couple of months or the syllabus changes
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Re: ISDN ... connectivity [7:72051]

2003-07-13 Thread Nakul Malik
nope.
not possible
however
with three routers u can
-Nakul

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> Can we connect 2 ISDN ports back to back for test ? (with out ISDN
> simulation device)
> Is there any kind cable to do this job?
>
>
>
> cheers
> Heiman.




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Re: N+1 redundancy [7:72202]

2003-07-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 8:02 PM + 7/13/03, annlee wrote:
>N+1 means one more than that required. Suppose you have a large switch which
>can operate half the blade capacity with one power supply and it requires 2
>power supplies to operate fully populated. Then, when it is half-populated,
>dual power supplies provides N+1, because it has one more than the
>requirement. When fully populated, it has N+1 if it has 3 power supplies in
>place and available.
>
>This is the kind of HA requirement typically demanded by telcos and others
>for whom off-line is simply not an option.
>
>HTH
>
>Annlee

Indeed, there are HA techniques, more applicable to communications 
channels, that may offer more or less resources than N+1.  I have 
seen nuclear war command and control systems that would send out a 
launch message on up to 23 different media.

1+1 actively transmits the same data on two links, usually accepting the
 first copy that has a correct error check sequence and discarding the
 other.  Probably the most common application is SSCOP, the data link
 protocol for SS7 and Q.2931.

1:1 only one active link, but a dedicated standby link (think FDDI)

M:N N backups for M active resources.


>
>""Lo Ching""  wrote in message
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>>  Dear All,
>>
>>  What's the meaning of N+1 redundancy? I found a chassis switch with 4
>power
>>  supply and it states N+1 power redundancy.
>>
>>  Thanks.
>>
>>  rgds,
>>  Lo Ching




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RE: Frame-relay & HSRP [7:72166]

2003-07-13 Thread Salvatore De Luca
Ahh yes.. you can do this also.. pending you have 12.0(5)T or later. The
only issue with that is you might want to modify the "frame-relay end-to-end
keepalive timer" As you stated, Within the 15 second intervals x3 you are
looking at a good 45 seconds before the WAN interface goes down down ,plus
another 10 for the HSRP holdtimer.


mccloud mike wrote:
> 
> I have seen this problem before with frame. LMI being local to
> the frame switch means the interface does not go down and
> backups routes do not kick in. One way to overcome this is to
> monitor layer 2 by using the “frame-relay end-to-end
> keepalive mode bidirectional” command within a map class
> on both sides. This command sends a keepalive every 15 seconds,
> if 3 are missed the interface will change to down/down even
> though the interface is receiving LMI from the frame switch. I
> hope this helps.
> 
> Mike 
> 
> 
> Masaru Umetsu wrote:
> > 
> > Dear all
> > 
> > I have a question about frame-relay. Network Diagram is below.
> > 
> > R1* *  *R3
> > | * FR * |
> > R2* *  *R4
> > 
> > I configured a HSRP between R1 and R2, R3 and R4.
> > R1,R3 are Active router.(R2,R4 are Standby router)
> > And I configured standby track in a Wan side of R1,R3.
> > 
> > When I disabled(shutdown the interface) the serial0/0 of R1 ,
> > then R2 became Active router. It's ok.
> > But R3 didn't detect a down of Wan side,so serial0/0 of R3 is
> > up-up.
> > Therefore,I can't send a data between R2 and R4.
> > Regarding Frame-relay configuration, I configured frame-relay
> in
> > main-interface. Is it a mechanism of Frame-relay in
> > main-interface ?
> > I don't know in detail. Should I use sub-interface &
> > point-2-point
> > definition in frame-relay to use HSRP standby track ? Please
> > explain me
> > about this problem.
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




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CCDA - CERT [7:72215]

2003-07-13 Thread PacketEXPERTS
I am looking for a good CCDA book and will take test next month.

I will be greatful for any tips and info 

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640-861 CCDA [7:72217]

2003-07-13 Thread PacketEXPERTS
I am looking to test next month (CCDA 640-861).

I am looking for any and all books, tips and info to help test next month.

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RE: CID 640-025 - ?? [7:72205]

2003-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Basically, since there are band-new tests, the books that started to be
written 1-3 yrs ago most likely won't cover 100% of the exam topics

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I don't think that we should divulge any specifics about tests
but.you should now that the CCNP-class exams have recently gone
through many changes (hence the tons of ccnp-class beta exams)..

Cheers,
Andre'

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Hello,Getting ready to take the 640-025 CID exam.  Using Matthew H.
Birkner's CID book from Cisco Press. Going over the topics covered in
the exam
@http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current
_exams/640-025.htmlI
noticed that there was NO mention of IPX, AppleTalk, Windows Networking
and SNA Design at all? Why?Does this mean that these topics will NOT be
tested on the exam even though the book has devoted chapters to these
same topics?Please advise.Also,  any tips regarding taking this exam is
very well appreciated. I mean, are there any scenario type long
questions with diagrams etc. asked  or is it just like any other regular
exam with multiple choice questions - just click a, b, c, d or e ?Thank
you.Sincerely.



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Re: Microsoft Netmeeting 2620 w/ NAT [7:72192]

2003-07-13 Thread Colin Weiner
I got Microsoft Netmeeting to work through a 2620 w/ NAT
in a lab environment, but just for the internal clients. I can get a user on
the inside network to initiate a NetMeeting session w/ a machine on the
outside network and it works fine. If I try to initiate a session from the
outside to the same machine on the inside, it won't work, the call just
times out.

I'm running IOS Version 12.3(1a) (c2600-ik9o3s3-mz.123-1a) that
supports H323 and am using NAT w/ ip overload and the external ip
address as the Nated address that the outside world will see. I've
been looking through newsgroups, Cisco, and Google but and having a
hard time finding what I need.  I think I need to do some static Nat
mappings but am not sure

Any ideas would greatly appreciate.

Thanks

Colin



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RE: Any LANE on CCNP switching [7:72197]

2003-07-13 Thread Reimer Fred
I passed the BCMSN test, but you can look at the Cisco documentation for
what should be on the test.  If you've taken any courses for the CCNP, or
look at the info from Cisco, you will probably see that ATM, and LANE in
specific, is a very small percentage of the material covered, if at all. 
So, if there are any questions on your particular test the percentage of
them should be relatively small.  You should be able to miss all of them and
still pass, assuming that you get 100% on everything else.  I sincerely
doubt that Cisco would include more than 30% of the questions that are
involving LANE...

-Fred


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Re: N+1 redundancy [7:72202]

2003-07-13 Thread annlee
N+1 means one more than that required. Suppose you have a large switch which
can operate half the blade capacity with one power supply and it requires 2
power supplies to operate fully populated. Then, when it is half-populated,
dual power supplies provides N+1, because it has one more than the
requirement. When fully populated, it has N+1 if it has 3 power supplies in
place and available.

This is the kind of HA requirement typically demanded by telcos and others
for whom off-line is simply not an option.

HTH

Annlee

""Lo Ching""  wrote in message
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> Dear All,
>
> What's the meaning of N+1 redundancy? I found a chassis switch with 4
power
> supply and it states N+1 power redundancy.
>
> Thanks.
>
> rgds,
> Lo Ching




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RE: Frame-relay & HSRP [7:72166]

2003-07-13 Thread mccloud mike
I have seen this problem before with frame. LMI being local to the frame
switch means the interface does not go down and backups routes do not kick
in. One way to overcome this is to monitor layer 2 by using the
“frame-relay end-to-end keepalive mode bidirectional” command
within a map class on both sides. This command sends a keepalive every 15
seconds, if 3 are missed the interface will change to down/down even though
the interface is receiving LMI from the frame switch. I hope this helps.

Mike 


Masaru Umetsu wrote:
> 
> Dear all
> 
> I have a question about frame-relay. Network Diagram is below.
> 
> R1* *  *R3
> | * FR * |
> R2* *  *R4
> 
> I configured a HSRP between R1 and R2, R3 and R4.
> R1,R3 are Active router.(R2,R4 are Standby router)
> And I configured standby track in a Wan side of R1,R3.
> 
> When I disabled(shutdown the interface) the serial0/0 of R1 ,
> then R2 became Active router. It's ok.
> But R3 didn't detect a down of Wan side,so serial0/0 of R3 is
> up-up.
> Therefore,I can't send a data between R2 and R4.
> Regarding Frame-relay configuration, I configured frame-relay in
> main-interface. Is it a mechanism of Frame-relay in
> main-interface ?
> I don't know in detail. Should I use sub-interface &
> point-2-point
> definition in frame-relay to use HSRP standby track ? Please
> explain me
> about this problem.
> 
> 




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a default route question.. [7:72211]

2003-07-13 Thread wj chou
Hi, 
I am sure a lot of you here have read Jeff Doyle's Routing TCP/IP VolumeI. I
am reading Charpter 12 "Default routes and on-demand routing" and have a
question on page 753, it says that "After a default route is identified in
the routing table, RIP, EIGRP, IGRP will automatically advertise it". And it
gives an example of RIP automatically advertise defualt route without doing
any redistribution. this I can't agree. I tried it on my setup but it
doesn't work. Without redistribution, my default route just doesn't get
advertised to its RIP neighbors. Am I misunderstanding anything? Can someone
who has read this book help? thanks a lot!

Ellie


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RE: CID 640-025 - ?? [7:72205]

2003-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I don't think that we should divulge any specifics about tests
but.you should now that the CCNP-class exams have recently gone
through many changes (hence the tons of ccnp-class beta exams)..

Cheers,
Andre'

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Hello,Getting ready to take the 640-025 CID exam.  Using Matthew H.
Birkner's CID book from Cisco Press. Going over the topics covered in
the exam
@http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current
_exams/640-025.htmlI
noticed that there was NO mention of IPX, AppleTalk, Windows Networking
and SNA Design at all? Why?Does this mean that these topics will NOT be
tested on the exam even though the book has devoted chapters to these
same topics?Please advise.Also,  any tips regarding taking this exam is
very well appreciated. I mean, are there any scenario type long
questions with diagrams etc. asked  or is it just like any other regular
exam with multiple choice questions - just click a, b, c, d or e ?Thank
you.Sincerely.



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Re: CCIE:Security Practical Studies [7:72162]

2003-07-13 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 3:44 PM + 7/13/03, Hemingway wrote:
>""Jason Viera""  wrote in message
>news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  The individuals writing the book probably aren't privy to any exam
content
>>  changes that are around the corner unless they are a part of the CCIE
>team,
>>  another misconception is that Cisco Press  is in close contact with
>>  technology changes that Cisco Systems is actually working on. What many
>>  people don't understand is that it takes a while to write and publish a
>book
>>  in a cost effective manner,
>
>I don't know about the back end production part ( final copy, typesetting,
>printing, distribution )

3-6 months, depending on the publisher and priority.  Of course, 
distribution gets variable with the priorities of the booksellers.

There may be several months of negotiation before the contract and 
outline are approved.

I've written books in anywhere between 3 and 12 months.

>
>
>One should be reading the command references, reading the config quides, and
>concentrating on fundamentals. Any routing protocol over NMBA ( with all
>possible combinations for the links ), ISDN backup options, authentication
>anyplace it is possible, redistribution between any two porotocols ( with
>all possible mechanisms for doing so ). The presence of the 3550's has not
>changed any of the fundamentals one needs to master.
>
>An important Lab skill is finding things on the CD.
>
>Much as I may or may not like it intellectually, practically speaking, there
>is little need to spend time reading RFC's in prep for the lab. I've been
>there enough to state categorically that I have seen nothing that made me
>wish I spent more time with the RFC's and plenty to make me wish I'd spent
>more time with Cisco's docs and with configuring things based on the topics
>stated above.

I might suggest there's benefit in what I might call reading "beyond" 
the RFCs, or spending less effort on the protocol specifications and 
more on the working group mailing list and on the RFCs that introduce 
extensions to deal with hard problems for the regular protocol.  The 
RIP RFC does have an excellent discussion of split horizon and poison 
reverse. Harder to read, but there, is a great deal of the underlying 
principles of redistribution in OSPF.  I only really understood BGP 
after getting the sense of RPSL. RFC1812, the Router Requirements 
Document, gives lots of answers.  Our work on BGP performance, 
hopefully on its way to getting an RFC number, clarifies ambiguous 
definitions in 1771 
(http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-bmwg-conterm-05.txt) 
Draft 21 (last I looked) of the revised 1771 is far more accurate and 
informative.

>
>The CCIE Lab is about configuring Cisco equipment in a manner that satifies
>the requirements of Cisco's test. Nothing more. Nothing less.
>
>
>
>
>>  Jason
>>  ""NKP""  wrote in message
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>>  > I dont think that the book is all that bad , probably I am an
>>  > amateur in Security .
>>  > The thing I still can not understand is why is it that that
when
>a
>>  > CCIE Practical Studies book is published by Cisco Press , some  of
there
>>  > topics become obsolete in a couple of months or the syllabus changes .
A
>>  > similar thing happened with the Karl Solie book last year for R/S ,
just
>a
>>  > couple of months after his book was published , they had removed Token
>>  Ring
>>  > / IPX from the lab and now they are planning to add IDS and VPN
>>  Concentrator
>>  > in the lab , the details of which are not mentioned in this book .
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > Navin Parwal
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > ""Roberts, Larry""  wrote in message
>>  > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>  > > Just looking to get others opinions on this book. I'm just now to the
>>  OSPF
>>  > > chapter, and I have already found several pages worth of mistakes.
>>  > >
>>  > > I have an e-mail into ciscopress with a listing of the errors, and I
>>  > > understand that any first edition will have some, but I'm finding
>  > critical
>>  > > mistakes as well as configuration errors that should be obvious, yet
>>  > somehow
>>  > > they were overlooked.
>>  > >
>>  > > Was the original CCIE:practical studies full of errors as well?
>>  > >
>>  > > Maybe I'm expecting to much, but I find myself questioning everything
>>  that
>>  > > the authors have written because of the mistakes I have found.
>>  > >
>>  > > Not what I was expecting from a CCIE Level book.
>>  > >
>>  > > Not trying to slam the authors, just trying to get others opinions...
>>  > >
>>  > > Thanks
>>  > >
>>  > > Larry




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Re: CCIE:Security Practical Studies [7:72162]

2003-07-13 Thread Hemingway
""Jason Viera""  wrote in message
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> The individuals writing the book probably aren't privy to any exam content
> changes that are around the corner unless they are a part of the CCIE
team,
> another misconception is that Cisco Press  is in close contact with
> technology changes that Cisco Systems is actually working on. What many
> people don't understand is that it takes a while to write and publish a
book
> in a cost effective manner,

I don't know about the back end production part ( final copy, typesetting,
printing, distribution ) but the writing and tech review part might take as
long as a year. Shorten that time frame, and only obvious mistakes get
caught, and maybe not even then. The writer and the tech reviewer each
probably have real jobs. They are working evenings and weekends.Blurry eyes
don't always catch everything. :->


> so if any exam content or new technology is
> released during the process the changes probably won't be reflected.
Nothing
> is perfect, you should never rely on one source being the definitive
> resource for your studies. Reading the configuration guides and command
> references can prove to be quite beneficial. IMHO

JMHO as well. One should not be endlessly searching for The Perfect Practice
Lab, one which is "real close" to the real lab. Cisco is changing the real
lab scenarios pretty quickly these days. I don't think a particular scenario
lasts more than a couple of months any more.

One should be reading the command references, reading the config quides, and
concentrating on fundamentals. Any routing protocol over NMBA ( with all
possible combinations for the links ), ISDN backup options, authentication
anyplace it is possible, redistribution between any two porotocols ( with
all possible mechanisms for doing so ). The presence of the 3550's has not
changed any of the fundamentals one needs to master.

An important Lab skill is finding things on the CD.

Much as I may or may not like it intellectually, practically speaking, there
is little need to spend time reading RFC's in prep for the lab. I've been
there enough to state categorically that I have seen nothing that made me
wish I spent more time with the RFC's and plenty to make me wish I'd spent
more time with Cisco's docs and with configuring things based on the topics
stated above.

The CCIE Lab is about configuring Cisco equipment in a manner that satifies
the requirements of Cisco's test. Nothing more. Nothing less.




> Jason
> ""NKP""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > I dont think that the book is all that bad , probably I am an
> > amateur in Security .
> > The thing I still can not understand is why is it that that when
a
> > CCIE Practical Studies book is published by Cisco Press , some  of there
> > topics become obsolete in a couple of months or the syllabus changes . A
> > similar thing happened with the Karl Solie book last year for R/S , just
a
> > couple of months after his book was published , they had removed Token
> Ring
> > / IPX from the lab and now they are planning to add IDS and VPN
> Concentrator
> > in the lab , the details of which are not mentioned in this book .
> >
> >
> > Navin Parwal
> >
> >
> > ""Roberts, Larry""  wrote in message
> > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Just looking to get others opinions on this book. I'm just now to the
> OSPF
> > > chapter, and I have already found several pages worth of mistakes.
> > >
> > > I have an e-mail into ciscopress with a listing of the errors, and I
> > > understand that any first edition will have some, but I'm finding
> critical
> > > mistakes as well as configuration errors that should be obvious, yet
> > somehow
> > > they were overlooked.
> > >
> > > Was the original CCIE:practical studies full of errors as well?
> > >
> > > Maybe I'm expecting to much, but I find myself questioning everything
> that
> > > the authors have written because of the mistakes I have found.
> > >
> > > Not what I was expecting from a CCIE Level book.
> > >
> > > Not trying to slam the authors, just trying to get others opinions...
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > Larry




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CID 640-025 - ?? [7:72205]

2003-07-13 Thread Cisco Nuts
Hello,Getting ready to take the 640-025 CID exam.  Using Matthew H.
Birkner's CID book from Cisco Press. Going over the topics covered in the
exam
@http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-025.htmlI
noticed that there was NO mention of IPX, AppleTalk, Windows Networking
and SNA Design at all? Why?Does this mean that these topics will NOT be
tested on the exam even though the book has devoted chapters to these
same topics?Please advise.Also,  any tips regarding taking this exam is
very well appreciated. I mean, are there any scenario type long questions
with diagrams etc. asked  or is it just like any other regular exam with
multiple choice questions - just click a, b, c, d or e ?Thank you.Sincerely.



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Re: Any LANE on CCNP switching [7:72197]

2003-07-13 Thread Hemingway
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> Hi guys,
>
> I just want to make sure is there any LANE on CCNP switching?


I don't know, but what does the blueprint say?

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exams/640-604.html#examtop
watch the wrap




>
> Thank you!




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N+1 redundancy [7:72202]

2003-07-13 Thread Lo Ching
Dear All,

What's the meaning of N+1 redundancy? I found a chassis switch with 4 power
supply and it states N+1 power redundancy.

Thanks.

rgds,
Lo Ching


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RE: Any LANE on CCNP switching [7:72197]

2003-07-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello,

For these types of questions, it's alwaysbest to refer to the cisco.com
site...

Best regards,
Andre'

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Hi guys,

I just want to make sure is there any LANE on CCNP switching?

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Re: dcd=up [7:72175]

2003-07-13 Thread Nakul Malik
DCD is the Carrier Detect
Like the CD led on a PSTN line modem.
-Nakul

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> Router# show interfaces serial1
> Serial1 is up, line protocol is up
> Hardware is HD64570
> Internet address is 190.1.2.1/24
> MTU 1500 bytes, BW 1544 Kbit, DLY 2 usec,
> Reliability 255/255, txload 237/255, rxload 1/255
> Encapsulation HDLC, loopback not set
> Keepalive not set
> Last input 00:00:22, output 00:00:00, output hang never
> Last clearing of "show interface" counters 00:17:58
> Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 2479
>
> Queueing strategy: random early detection(RED)
> flows (active/max active/max): 8/9/16
> mean queue depth: 27
> drops: class random tail min-th max-th mark-prob
> 0 946 0 20 40 1/10
> 1 488 0 22 40 1/10
> 2 429 0 24 40 1/10
> 3 341 0 26 40 1/10
> 4 235 0 28 40 1/10
> 5 40 0 31 40 1/10
> 6 0 0 33 40 1/10
> 7 0 0 35 40 1/10
> rsvp 0 0 37 40 1/10
>   30 second input rate 1000 bits/sec, 2 packets/sec
>   30 second output rate 119000 bits/sec, 126 packets/sec
>  1346 packets input, 83808 bytes, 0 no buffer
>  Received 12 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
>  0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
>  84543 packets output, 9977642 bytes, 0 underruns
>  0 output errors, 0 collisions, 6 interface resets
>  0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
>  0 carrier transitions
>  DCD=up DSR=up DTR=up RTS=up CTS=up
>
>
> what is the meaning of "dcd=up"?
> thanks.




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Re: spanning trees over the same trunk port [7:72174]

2003-07-13 Thread Nakul Malik
like everyone else said, by causing lots of traffic.
However, I think, the amount of traffic generated in such a case would
probably cause something akin to a broadcast storm.
Correct me if im wrong. Anyone have an opinion on this???
-Nakul


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> how loops in one spanning tree affect other spanning trees?
> thanks.




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Re: CCIE:Security Practical Studies [7:72162]

2003-07-13 Thread Jason Viera
The individuals writing the book probably aren't privy to any exam content
changes that are around the corner unless they are a part of the CCIE team,
another misconception is that Cisco Press  is in close contact with
technology changes that Cisco Systems is actually working on. What many
people don't understand is that it takes a while to write and publish a book
in a cost effective manner, so if any exam content or new technology is
released during the process the changes probably won't be reflected. Nothing
is perfect, you should never rely on one source being the definitive
resource for your studies. Reading the configuration guides and command
references can prove to be quite beneficial. IMHO
Jason
""NKP""  wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> I dont think that the book is all that bad , probably I am an
> amateur in Security .
> The thing I still can not understand is why is it that that when a
> CCIE Practical Studies book is published by Cisco Press , some  of there
> topics become obsolete in a couple of months or the syllabus changes . A
> similar thing happened with the Karl Solie book last year for R/S , just a
> couple of months after his book was published , they had removed Token
Ring
> / IPX from the lab and now they are planning to add IDS and VPN
Concentrator
> in the lab , the details of which are not mentioned in this book .
>
>
> Navin Parwal
>
>
> ""Roberts, Larry""  wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Just looking to get others opinions on this book. I'm just now to the
OSPF
> > chapter, and I have already found several pages worth of mistakes.
> >
> > I have an e-mail into ciscopress with a listing of the errors, and I
> > understand that any first edition will have some, but I'm finding
critical
> > mistakes as well as configuration errors that should be obvious, yet
> somehow
> > they were overlooked.
> >
> > Was the original CCIE:practical studies full of errors as well?
> >
> > Maybe I'm expecting to much, but I find myself questioning everything
that
> > the authors have written because of the mistakes I have found.
> >
> > Not what I was expecting from a CCIE Level book.
> >
> > Not trying to slam the authors, just trying to get others opinions...
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Larry




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