Re: OT: MS router fixed (was whois microsoft.com)

2001-01-25 Thread Dan West

Hmmm...doesn't sound like quite the whole picture. How
would that explain what happened when you ran a
"whois" on microsoft.com?  Did anyone else see
that?!?! It was pretty funny. -- about 15 lines of
hacker orgs and comments about MS. 

A more frightening possibilitydid someone hack the
DNS root servers??

--- "Erick B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> http://www.microsoft.com/info/siteaccess.htm
> 
> Microsoft Explains Site Access Issues
> 
> On Tuesday evening and Wednesday, many Microsoft
> customers had difficulty accessing the company's Web
> sites. The cause has been determined, and the issue
> is
> resolved. 
> 
> At 6:30 p.m. Tuesday (PST), a Microsoft technician
> made a configuration change to the routers on the
> edge
> of Microsoft's Domain Name Server network. The DNS
> servers are used to connect domain names with
> numeric
> IP addresses (e.g. 207.46.230.219) of the various
> servers and networks that make up Microsoft's Web
> presence. 
> 
> The mistaken configuration change limited
> communication between DNS servers on the Internet
> and
> Microsoft's DNS servers. This limited communication
> caused many of Microsoft's sites to be unreachable
> (although they were actually still operational) to a
> large number of customers throughout last night and
> today. 
> 
> This was an operational error, and not the result of
> any issue with Microsoft or third-party products nor
> the security of our networks. Microsoft regrets any
> inconvenience caused to customers due to this issue.
> 
> 
> At approximately 5 p.m. Wednesday (PST), Microsoft
> removed the changes to the router configuration and
> immediately saw a massive improvement in the DNS
> network. 
> 
> All sites are currently available to customers.
> Again,
> Microsoft apologizes for the inconvenience. 
> 
> --- Adam Hickey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
>
http://www.cnn.com/2001/TECH/computing/01/24/microsoft.blackout.idg/index.ht
> > ml
> > 
> >
> http://slashdot.org/articles/01/01/24/1455247.shtml
> > 
> > Adam Hickey
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > CCNA CCNP (in progress)
> > 
> > > Oh that is just so funny
> > > To bad I can't paste the whois in here lol
> 
> > > Allen May wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Quick!  do a whois no microsoft.com.  It's
> been
> > hacked ;)
> 
> Huh? I looked it off and on yesterday and today and
> it
> was correct.
> 
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Re: OT: MS router fixed (was whois microsoft.com)

2001-01-25 Thread Dan West

whoooaa there, cowboy..!!   I would say it certainly
has S/THING to do with S/THING...C'mon!!

I wasn't doing a whois on
microsoft.blah.blah.whatever. I was running whois on
"microsoft.com".  Some DNS redirection at the very
least was happening. 

To say it "has nothing to do with anything" is just
plain absurd.


--- Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Dan West wrote:
> 
> > Hmmm...doesn't sound like quite the whole picture.
> How
> > would that explain what happened when you ran a
> > "whois" on microsoft.com?  Did anyone else see
> > that?!?! It was pretty funny. -- about 15 lines of
> > hacker orgs and comments about MS. 
> 
> That has nothing to do with anything. The query used
> to search the whois
> database is fairly loose and brings up any hostname
> that has the word
> microsoft in it. aol.com does the same thing. So if
> I registred a DNS
> server called microsoft.suck.tigerteam.net it would
> show up also.
> 
> 
> > A more frightening possibilitydid someone hack
> the
> > DNS root servers??
> 
> No. 
> 
> andy
> 


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Re: OT: MS router fixed (was whois microsoft.com)

2001-01-25 Thread Dan West

Well, if I don't know anything else at least I know
that you're the most friendly, helpful and informative
guy I've ever met*grin*  

Seriously though, no flamebait here but why do I see
that funny junk when I run whois on microsoft.com and
aol.com? Whois doesn't interact with DNS at all? I
just want to be sure. 


--- Andy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> On Thu, 25 Jan 2001, Dan West wrote:
> 
> > whoooaa there, cowboy..!!   I would say it
> certainly
> > has S/THING to do with S/THING...C'mon!!
> 
> Only because you apparently have no idea how DNS
> works.
>  
> > I wasn't doing a whois on
> > microsoft.blah.blah.whatever. I was running whois
> on
> > "microsoft.com".  Some DNS redirection at the very
> > least was happening. 
> 
> 
> DNS has nothing to do with the whois database and
> your commant about DNS
> redirection makes absolutely no sense.
> 
> > To say it "has nothing to do with anything" is
> just
> > plain absurd.
> 
> See my first comment.
> 
> andy
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PRI woes...switch vs. switch

2001-01-30 Thread Dan West

Hi All,

Using AS5800 dual DS3 with software channelized DS1
controllers.

The "isdn service" command to put the PRIs b-channels
in "maintenance" state causes some of our circuits to
lose D-channel as well... :<

Cisco techs claim that telco switches don't like being
told what the state of their own lines are...now why
that would cause d channel flap who knows.

Anybody else out there seen this? Depends on the
switch 5e or DMS-500 too.

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Re: PRI woes...switch vs. switch

2001-01-31 Thread Dan West

No nfas here...just plain 'ole PRI signaling. We busy
out a PRI, then dial and watch calls hit the next PRI
for testing purposes. Actually, we ended up finding
out that 5ess switches running national/standard
software by default do not offer the "maintenance"
state for b-channels( only "in-service" and
"out-of-service"). 

--- Eric Lofvenborg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all. I lurked on this list for a while last year,
> and decided come back 
> and visit.
> 
> On a cert note, I have passed CCNA and BCRAN,
> Switching will be next week 
> ... Damn VLAN's .. :-)
> 
> As for your flapping D channel:
> 
> Are you using NFAS ?? And why would you take down B
> channels from the router 
> ? We usually use state 2 (busy)on NFAS from just
> about any switchtype on the 
> planet, and everyhting works fine (for testing
> disco's prior to sending out 
> orders). I would be curious to see how your SerXX:23
> are set up, and what 
> IOS u r using.
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> >From: Dan West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Dan West <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: PRI woes...switch vs. switch
> >Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2001 06:16:53 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >Using AS5800 dual DS3 with software channelized DS1
> >controllers.
> >
> >The "isdn service" command to put the PRIs
> b-channels
> >in "maintenance" state causes some of our circuits
> to
> >lose D-channel as well... :<
> >
> >Cisco techs claim that telco switches don't like
> being
> >told what the state of their own lines are...now
> why
> >that would cause d channel flap who knows.
> >
> >Anybody else out there seen this? Depends on the
> >switch 5e or DMS-500 too.
> >
> >=
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RE: cd burner

2001-01-31 Thread Dan West

Good to know and all, but I think it would have been
more appropriate posted s_o_m_e_w_h_e_r_e  e_l_s_e


--- "Denis A. Baldwin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As low priced as they are, the Lite-On CD Burners
> and Smart and Friendly
> brands have been good to me as well.  I've done just
> over 1000 CDs on each
> without a single coaster.  If I had the money
> though, I'd get one of those
> 12x Plextors. Fast, good quality and last forever.
> 
> Denis
> 
> 
> Denis A. Baldwin - Network Administrator
> A+ / Network + / I-Net+ / MCP
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> hao vu
> Sent: Tuesday, January 30, 2001 6:41 PM
> To: 'Ray Smith'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: cd burner
> 
> 
> TDK and Plextor burners have good review.
> HTH
> 
> HV
> 
> -Original Message-
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> Subject: Help
> 
> 
> Guys,
> I am trying get a CD burner, but am not very
> familiar with which ones
> are good and which ones gives a lot of problems. 
> Could someone make their
> personal recommendations as to which one might be a
> good one to get right.
> If not could you direct me to a website that will
> give me some valuable
> comparisons and reviews.  Thanks
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RE: cd burner LAST

2001-02-01 Thread Dan West

OK, here is the last waste of time/bits/bandwidth,etc
on this... Sure a positive attitude is great, and
being helpful is great. And I don't mind hitting
delete several hundred times each day

BUT OFF TOPIC questions should go somewhere else.
--Bottom line--. I mean the ? about the CD burner is
nowhere near the target. Questions about blocking
Napster or how to resolve problems with Microsoft
domain controllers are borderline. Actually, the
questions about PDCs and BDCs bother me more than
other borderline errors.

I'm sure that MS has ample information about this
somewhere else. In fact, I bet they even have their
own study groupbut maybe the people at the MS
groupstudy aren't as sharp as those at
Cisco/groupstudy... :>

--- hao vu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ... That's GREAT! Thank you for your positive
> attitude.   ;-)
> 
> HV
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Bradley J. Wilson
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 3:55 PM
> To: cisco
> Subject: Re: cd burner
> 
> 
> Oh, come on folks...an off-topic post isn't any skin
> off your back.  The
> topic clearly states what the author is posting
> about, and one more press of
> the "delete" button isn't going to break your
> keyboard.  Do you holler at
> co-workers when they want to talk about
> non-work-related issues?  Of course
> not.  Relax. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: someone
> To: someone else
> Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 12:27 PM
> Subject: RE: cd burner
> 
> 
> Good to know and all, but I think it would have been
> more appropriate posted s_o_m_e_w_h_e_r_e 
> e_l_s_e
> 
> 
> --- "Someone Q. Ciscolearner"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As low priced as they are, the Lite-On CD Burners
> > and Smart and Friendly
> > brands have been good to me as well.  I've done
> just
> > over 1000 CDs on each
> > without a single coaster.  If I had the money
> > though, I'd get one of those
> > 12x Plextors. Fast, good quality and last forever.
> 
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Telco guru question

2001-02-02 Thread Dan West

Hi All,

Any telco guys know what a "BIPP" (BIP)? refers to?
One of our guys here says it's a circuit "out to the
Internet". Better phrased, is BIPP something physical?
circuit? card/slot? etc...I was thinking maybe it was
where two LECS hand-off on a high cap customer
circuit.

OR Is it something like a demarq point? Thanks and
have a great weekend!

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Admin distance on directly connected

2001-02-02 Thread Dan West

A directly connected network has an AD=0. 
A static route via Interface has AD=0 
A static route via IP address has AD=1  Correct?


Is it possible to change the AD on a directly
connected network? Set it to 1 or higher??   Just
wondering if you can make directly connected networks
have floating static routes.


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RE: Serial Line Protocol Problems

2001-02-02 Thread Dan West

I didn't real whole post but...  I heard that setting
"no keepalive" on frame relay interfaces keeps them
from dropping. 


--- Brian Lodwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'd try debug interface, or lmi if you are using
> frame and see what the 
> sequence numbers look like. Also what does the show
> controllers look like 
> for this interface?
> 
> >>>Brian
> 
> 
> >From: "Perusek, Rick"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Perusek, Rick"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "'Albert Lu'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,  
>  GroupStudy  
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: Serial Line Protocol Problems
> >Date: Thu, 1 Feb 2001 10:47:26 -0500
> >
> >Hi Albert,
> >
> >Are you using the same encapsulation type on both
> interfaces? (Probably 
> >HDLC
> >for a back to back hookup.) What about keepalives?
> Are they set to the same
> >value at both ends? It sounds like one router is
> sending keepalives and the
> >other one is not.
> >
> >Rick
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: Albert Lu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 7:58 AM
> >To: GroupStudy
> >Subject: Serial Line Protocol Problems
> >
> >
> >Hi All,
> >
> >I've got a problem with the serial port of a 2500
> of mine.
> >
> >I used a serial back to back cable, in order to
> connect 2 2500s. I know 
> >what
> >a normal response the 2500 should give, it should
> normally detect that the
> >interface is up (I've used no shutdown already),
> and then set the line
> >protocol to up.
> >
> >For one of the serial port, the interface and the
> line protocol changes to
> >up when I connect the two routers together. But
> after awhile, this is what 
> >I
> >get:
> >
> >01:30:48: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to up
> >01:31:08: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to down
> >01:31:18: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to up
> >01:31:38: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to down
> >01:31:48: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to up
> >01:32:08: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to down
> >01:32:18: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to up
> >01:32:38: %LINEPROTO-5-UPDOWN: Line protocol on
> Interface Serial0, changed
> >state
> >  to down
> >
> >It keeps continuing. From what I can see, the line
> protocol keeps going up
> >and down periodically, however the interface is
> still up.
> >
> >This is what I've tried:
> >- Different cables.
> >- Different serial ports
> >- Changing clock rate and bandwidth
> >- Rebooting the router
> >
> >Could someone give me some suggestions?
> >
> >
> >Thanks
> >
> >Albert
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Question for isdn/telco gods...

2001-02-08 Thread Dan West

Another question for current (or former) telco switch
techs...

We are having issues again trying to issue the "isdn
service ... dsl 0 state 1" command to put all the
b-channels in a single PRI into 'maintenance' state.
Telco claims that we are sending 'ni-2' protocol
service commands. We don't even have the option of
running 'ni-2' as the switch protocol.

Is it really possible telco is seeing ni-2 statements
coming from our NAS when we don't even have that
protocol option? Our main options for the NAS (in the
US) are national, 5ess-custom or dms-100. Is telco
misinterpreting something we are sending? OR Is our
NAS sending ambiguous information to the telco LT
switch??  Thanks!

NAS = AS5800, running 12.0.5(?) s/thing like that...


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Re: ISP Opinions needed

2001-02-09 Thread Dan West

C&W is in the process of building a MPLS-based,
OC-192, single-hop coast to coast backbone. It's going
to be sick Actually, I think the OC-192 is already
in place and MPLS single-hop stuff is coming up. The
OC-192 might even be pumped up to something higher
*drool***


--- John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We are currently multihomed to Sprint and Verio, and
> I'm not very happy with Verio's stability so far. 
> When their contract comes up, we're considering
> dropping them and moving to a different provider. 
> I've done some preliminary research on UUNet, Global
> Crossing, AT&T, and Cable & Wireless.  I've dropped
> UUNet from consideration because their T-1 prices
> are not competitive at all.
> 
> At this time, my preference order is C&W, GC, and
> then AT&T.  Do any of you have any experience with
> these companies that you'd like to share?
> 
> Stability and customer service are *BIG* issues with
> us, and so far Verio doesn't rank very high with us
> in either category.  I remember seeing a post a
> while back that said "Verio=downtime".  Well, we
> haven't too much of a problem with local downtime,
> but there have been some days where our prefix was
> unreachable the entire day from portions of Verio's
> network.  Needless to say, that is unacceptable
> performance.
> 
> Any thoughts or opinions on this topic would be
> greatly appreciated!
> 
> Regards,
> John
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Re: Which Job Should I Take?

2001-02-15 Thread Dan West

I would also ask if either of these requires you to be
"on call" 24/7. That would be a major factor for me.

--- Traceroute <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was wondering if you all could share your opinions
> with me. I have a =
> choice of two jobs to take listed below. Both are an
> increase in pay of =
> about 9k.
> 
> 1. My current Job: They are going to title me
> "network engineer" working =
> 4 10 hour days 1 pm to midnight ( I love the hours)
> , but we work with =
> cabletron, checkpoint and cisco. We have a campus
> and WAN support =
> responsibility. Sometimes it's a bit slow when
> nothing is happening and =
> I may get some "Win NT" duties, yuck I would
> have sunday, monday and =
> tuesdays off and could possibly get some good side
> gigs. Last but not =
> least, it's business casual.
> 
> 2. New Job Offer: I will be titled a "network
> administrator" working 8 =
> to 5 monday through friday ( I hate waking up early
> ), but getting =
> exposure to ATM, Voice over IP and voice over ATM.
> Lots of MC 3810s =
> about 50 or so with conections all over the US. One
> thing is for sure is =
> there are NT admins to handle the "Win NT" issues, I
> really want to =
> graduate from the NT support world for good. This
> company is also =
> pre-ipo and although they are a huge company, this
> is a new "division" =
> and pre-ipo makes me nervous because I have a family
> to support. One =
> cool thing is that they are a cisco gold partner.
> One bad thing is that =
> they are business dress, yes the whole tie thing.
> The pre-ipo thing =
> makes me nervous because they say "yea when we go
> public, lots of the =
> big wigs will be rich"... Does this mean new
> management takeovers =
> etc...??
> 
> 
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Re: alternative to Cisco routers

2001-02-15 Thread Dan West

yea, point taken, but I wouldn't want a router that's
slow or unreliable either...

--- Kenneth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A router is a device that routes layer 3 packets.
> 
> Doesn't matter if it's fast or slow, reliable or
> not.
> 
> John Nemeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > On May 31,  8:23pm, anthony kim wrote:
> > } --- John Nemeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > } > On Jul 7,  4:07am, "Fowler, Robert J." wrote:
> > } > }
> > } > } However it might be a good choice for
> someone who is building a
> > } > home lab. It
> > } > } is much cheaper to piece together some
> computers and throw zebra
> > } > on it than
> > } > } to buy several routers. I've never used
> Zebra but it sounds like
> > } > if you had
> > } > } some existing equipment and wanted to expand
> on that, couldn't
> > } > afford to buy
> > } > } another router but had some old PC's it
> would be the way to go,
> > } > since
> > } > } speed/reliability wouldn't be a real factor
> in a home lab. Any
> > } > thoughts?
> > } >
> > } >  Although, you may learn something about
> the protocols, you
> > } > won't
> > } > learn anything about real routers.  You
> definitely need to get
> > } > hands on
> > } > with real routers.  Zebra could be used to
> simulate a secondary
> > } > router
> > } > in a multi-router experiment, but it isn't
> sufficient by itself.
> > }
> > } Is a real router a device which routes layer 3
> packets? Or a device
> > } "specifically designed" to route layer 3
> packets. Your statement
> > } implies the latter. Whereas I believe the
> former.
> >
> >  The latter.  A PC make be able to route
> packets, but that doesn't
> > make it a real router.  The hardware device is
> going to be faster
> > (especially at the high end), more reliable,
> require much less
> > maintenance (which makes it cheaper in the long
> run), and easier to
> > install and setup (not to mention take up far less
> space).  I'm a huge
> > fan of UNIX and will tend to run just about
> everything on UNIX systems,
> > but even I realise that UNIX host based systems
> are not the correct
> > solution for every problem.
> >
> > } You *will* learn about real routers because the
> pc is a real router.
> > } You may *not learn* anything about IOS or
> $VENDOR's routers.
> >
> >  That is the purpose of getting Cisco certs...
> >
> > }-- End of excerpt from anthony kim
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RE: Thought youd enjoy this

2001-02-16 Thread Dan West

Yea, Swahili is definitely an African Language. In
India, you would be speaking one of over 600 dialects.
The main ones are Hindi and Bengali.

--- Brant Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Speaking Swahili wouldn't do you too much good in
> India, considering that
> it's a language of African origin...
> 
> Brant I. Stevens
> Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> Thrupoint, Inc.
> 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> New York, NY. 10017
> 646-562-6540
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Lauren Child
> Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2001 4:33 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Thought youd enjoy this
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kelly D Griffin wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps they would like to respond back to this
> gentleman's e-mail in
> > Swahili.  Let's see if they can still walk with
> the shoe on the other
> foot.
> >
> 
> Language is irellevent - I thought his English was
> very good
> personally.  It was posted to give people a laugh
> and provoke
> conversation over how someone can get certs like
> that and a) not know
> how to use a search engine.  I was also indignant at
> the traditional AOL
> launch style "I bought the internet and so everyone
> on it is there for
> my support" attitude of it.
> 
> Theres a difference between asking in a forum for
> help and privmailing
> expecting someone to run around and work their butt
> of like a helpdesk -
> I do enough of that in the day without finding it in
> my inbox when I get
> home.
> 
> If I was looking for a job in India, and could speak
> swahili, Id use  an
> appropriate search engine and ask on a forum.  If
> people get the idea
> its OK to privmail questions like that, then every
> person who wants the
> same info will do the same, and Ill become the
> search engine, assuming
> my mailbox isnt full.
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Re: Firewalls and VPNs

2001-02-16 Thread Dan West

PIX - sounds like a router to me - packet forwarding
based on layer 3 addressing. It has extra security
features and all of a sudden it's a
firewall...marketing fluff? or accurate description???
who will uncover this mystery  ;>

--- mtieast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think this comes from the fact that cisco
> instructors in class say that
> the Pix is not a router. I have heard this as well
> when I had the class.
> 
> I know the Pix is not a router, but does it route?
> Well, if making decisions
> about where to send traffic based on layer 3 info is
> routing then I would
> argue it does route. It does not forward traffic
> based on layer 2 info so
> ..
> 
> It routes traffic to the appropriate interface. Can
> someone else shed some
> light as to why this is said. If it doesn't route
> the traffic it recieves
> what does it do?
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: haroldnjoe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Friday, February 16, 2001 12:41 PM
> Subject: Firewalls and VPNs
> 
> 
> >I've read here a couple of times that PIX's don't
> route. Period. In light
> of
> >this I'm left a little confused as to a proposed
> network map I was given
> >recently.
> >
> >The core layer router is a 3640 linking all of our
> branch offices together.
> >From the 3640, there is an ethernet connection to a
> PIX 515R.  From the
> PIX,
> >there is another ethernet connection to a 1750
> router. The 1750 connects
> via
> >T1 to our ISP.  There is yet another ethernet
> connection from the PIX to
> the
> >isolation lan, on which resides an internet
> mail/web server and a VPN 3000
> >concentrator.
> >
> >If PIX's don't route, what subnet is the isolation
> lan going to sit on?  As
> >I understand it, the PIX will be providing NAT
> functionality for the 3640
> >and everything behind it.  So I would assume that
> the T1 and ethernet
> >interfaces on the 1750, the outside interfaces on
> the PIX, and everything
> in
> >the isolation lan including the VPN concentrator
> will have to have public
> IP
> >addresses which will be given to us by our ISP. 
> The way the map is layed
> >out, it looks to me like the isolation lan would
> have to be on its own
> >subnet.
> >
> >What am I missing?  If the PIX doesn't route, do
> it's ethernet interfaces
> >reside on the same subnet as the isolation lan?  If
> so, then the ethernet
> >interface on the 1750 must also be on that subnet,
> right?
> >
> >This is the proposed network map that Cisco's
> presale engineers gave me.
> >I'm sure it's a solid design, but I'm still trying
> to work out the details
> >so that I understand what I'm implementing (always
> a good thing, I think).
> >
> >Thanks for your time,
> >
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IP routing protocols and ACL lists

2001-02-23 Thread Dan West

Howdy all,

Quick question this time :>  Does enabling routing
protocols like RIP or BGP automatically open up the
related ports through respective interfaces? In other
words, if you enable BGP, does it automatically ALLOW
IN/OUT bound connections on TCP port 179? UDP port 520
for RIP, etc?

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RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Dan West

For our company, Cisco does not yet provide reliable
products that scale to OC192 and beyond. Juniper
easily handles this for our backbone interfaces. I
don't work with it directly myself, but that's what
the higher-up engineers have told our group. :>

--- "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From what I understand from people who work with
> large scale providers,
> Juniper is stronger in the Backbone.  I believe
> Cisco is probably still the
> best for overall Enterprise products.
> 
> Heather Buri
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: cslx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:56 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: juniper and cisco
> 
> 
> it is said that the core technology of juniper is
> better than cisco now,it
> that true?
> 
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RE: juniper and cisco

2001-02-26 Thread Dan West

Wow, 3-4 weeks and I'm behind the times already ;>

It doesn't hurt that Cisco can just purchase other
companies' products and make them their own. I'm not
sure about this case, but I know that the Catalyst
switch series was purchased (the whole company?) by
Cisco and the same with Aeronet ( the wireless lan
device ).

--- Roger Sohn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  Actually, that's not true anymore.  Cisco released
> their OC192 routers
> about 3-4 weeks ago and it performs and scales
> better than Juniper's
> routers.  
> 
> Juniper's equipment doesn't scale well and
> performance loss is experienced
> under a full loaded node of interface cards. 
> Cisco's stuff doesn't do this
> and because of their independent architecture and
> design, everything runs at
> a carrier class level whether it has just one card
> or 8.  
> 
> Juniper was first to come out with the fastest
> backbone routers, but because
> Cisco retains the carrier class reliability,
> performance, and
> scalability...that's why it took them a bit longer. 
> I guess it's worth the
> wait.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dan West
> To: Buri, Heather H; 'cslx'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Sent: 2/26/2001 8:06 AM
> Subject: RE: juniper and cisco
> 
> For our company, Cisco does not yet provide reliable
> products that scale to OC192 and beyond. Juniper
> easily handles this for our backbone interfaces. I
> don't work with it directly myself, but that's what
> the higher-up engineers have told our group. :>
> 
> --- "Buri, Heather H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > From what I understand from people who work with
> > large scale providers,
> > Juniper is stronger in the Backbone.  I believe
> > Cisco is probably still the
> > best for overall Enterprise products.
> > 
> > Heather Buri
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: cslx [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2001 5:56 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: juniper and cisco
> > 
> > 
> > it is said that the core technology of juniper is
> > better than cisco now,it
> > that true?
> > 
> > 
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can s/body tell me what this is?

2001-02-26 Thread Dan West

Does anyone know what this means? I didn't even send a
file attachment to anyone

---

ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has blocked a file
attachment(s).

Place = Buri, Heather H; 'cslx';
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Sender = Dan West
Subject = RE: juniper and cisco
Delivery Time = February 27, 2001 (Tuesday) 01:30:32

Action on file attachment(s):

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of
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Re: Latency Program

2001-02-28 Thread Dan West

On most Unix hosts you could run the following command
from a shell prompt.

> ping generic.host.com >> ping.results 

<> hit  to break the ping. Now, "more"
the new file ping.results, 

> more ping.results

to see what the latency results are!

Note that on some flavors like Solaris, you have to
use the '-s' flag for the ping command to see detailed
info. So on a Solaris box run it like this...

> ping -s generic.host.com >> ping.results   --- Have
fun


--- NetEng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a program that will ping a host
> and record the latency?
> Multiple links would be a +. Thanks
> 
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Re: Star Wars

2001-03-06 Thread Dan West

No No No I want him to turn at the end of II. Like
the dark twist in Empire with Luke/Vader. that's
better... :>

--- Justin Emilio <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think he will turn to the dark side in Episode
> III. George Lucas is going
> to make us wait another 3 years to see what we are
> waiting for.
> 
> 
> Justin Emilio
> CCNA, CCDA, CSE
> MM Internet
> 888-654-4971
> - Original Message -
> From: "Z" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Justin Emilio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 7:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Star Wars
> 
> 
> > You've got to be kidding me...good topic, lol...
> >
> >
>

> > This has been an Eyez Only streaming e-mail
> broadcast...We are watching.
> >
> > NetEyez ~ CCNP, CCDA
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Justin Emilio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Cisco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 10:21 PM
> > Subject: Star Wars
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Is Anakin Skywalker going to fall to the
> dark side by episode II?
> > >
> > > Justin Emilio
> > > CCNA, CCDA, CSE
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Re: SPAM ATTACK

2001-03-06 Thread Dan West

For goodness sake just don't act an open SMTP relay.
You will most likely be eventually listed and your
network block or single ip may be black holed. Other
than that I don't know anything about port 110 POP
exploits or issues. I believe there are some other
ports running with e-mail...as backup ports? Not
sure--have to read some RFCs again :>


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> 
> 
> 
> Hi everybody:
> 
> I don't think I have any chance but just in case
> there is any magic
> filter
> Is there any way to protect a mailserver ,that is
> connected to internet with
> a router, from a SPAM attack configuring the router
> somehow?
> If You know any related document please let me know.
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> 
> Hopeless Nuria
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Re: Frame-relay

2001-03-07 Thread Dan West

AFAIK, this can be true if only one customer is using
all the VCs in a frame network. If nobody else has VCs
on that network, it would not be an issue unless, of
course, somebody physically compromises the media
(copper tapping). Is this accurate?? :>

--- John Jarrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Could someone please clarify something for me about
> Frame-relay?
> 
> I had always understood that traffic over
> frame-relay was unsecure and
> needed to be encrypted if it was of a critical
> nature.  Is frame-relay
> always a shared network?  I had thought so but I
> have recently had a
> someone explain to me that they did not need to
> encrypt the data because
> they "owned" the cloud that the pvc ran through.  He
> said that it was a
> point to point connection and therefore not over a
> shared network. All
> of our connections are setup using sub-interfaces
> and point to point. I
> still thought that it was over a shared network. 
> This did not make a
> lot of sense to me.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.  Any links to good
> documentation would be
> helpful as well.
> 
> Thanks,
> John
> 
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Re: ISDN 22 second PPP Negotiation Time-out, help...

2001-03-08 Thread Dan West

I have done this *type* of work before Get ready.
Ask telco to trace out the carrier for you from their
demarc and find every mux point or switch AND ask them
IF the circuit gets HANDED OFF to another CARRIER at
some point. 

If so, your nice 64k digital line might be stepping
down to analog within another telco (CARRIER) so your
LEC might not even care or say they have control over
it It's oh so much fun working with the phone
companies. Although I must say I have worked with some
really good, qualified people there who have been
extremely helpful


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> UN-Fixable...
> Calls time-out after 22 seconds. We use Cisco. Some
> locations work when you 
> call in-bound but fail on out bound calls, while
> others fail both in and out 
> bound. We order the ISDN 64k DATA/DATA. It must be
> 64k DATA/DATA in order to 
> work with our access-servers, VOICE/DATA will not
> work. Local and Long 
> distance teclo SAY they are configured right... Long
> distance telco says 
> they are handing a 64k data call to local and local
> says they are recieving 
> a 64k data call and vise versa. Now for some issues
> I have been able to set 
> the call speed to 56k to get the call working. My
> main point for posting 
> this is to find help in how I can talk to the telco
> and make them look at 
> the line and be absolutly sure that our calls are
> traveling a 64k DATA/DATA 
> trunk and not being routed over ANALOG or
> VOICE/DATA. Or if there are any 
> config changes that can be made local or on the
> access-servers.
> 
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Re: off-topic: anyone alarmed?

2001-03-11 Thread Dan West

is it just me or is that saying that if you're a
reseller/sales person then you'd better get your CCIE
to keep your job? nah...that's too crazy.


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Re: ccnp guide errors

2001-03-12 Thread Dan West

CISCO PRESS BOOKS: Really good books BUT they do
contain errors. All the books that I have read have
them. Some are just typos and others simply poor
phrasing or grammar. (Routing TCP/IP has some subnet
mask typos that make it confusing)

The laura chappell (spelling?) ACRC book: Some major
mistakes, but a decent book overall.


--- Rick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> books. I would also
> like to say that in the
> last year I think Sybex has gotten better at editing
> prior to release. I
> also check as many reviews as
> possible but the ones on Amazon are usually very
> misleading as most of these
> reviews are from the publishing companies
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> Rick
> 
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> m...
> >
> > I recently bought the Osborne version of the CCNP
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> > After catching a few errors in the first few
> chapters, I went online to
> > look at reviews.  It seems many others have
> noticed this also.  More
> > surprising, as I read the reviews for the other
> versions, including
> > CiscoPress, ExamCram, and Todd Lammle, this seems
> to apply to all of them.
> > What the hell is someone supposed to do to fill in
> the areas they are not
> > familiar with?  I am curious if you have an
> opinion as to which of these
> > guides is the most error free??
> >
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Re: BRI ISDN layer2 going to sleep

2000-12-15 Thread Dan West
hown as active and
> > > > > > > incoming calls cannot be received.
> > > > > > > Shut then no shut on interface does the
> > trick.
> > > > > > > I suspect this could be some
> configuration
> > on
> > > > BT
> > > > > > equipment, but is there any
> > > > > > > workaround, or is there some form of
> > keepalive
> > > > > > which is not default. Switch
> > > > > > > is basic-net3.
> > > > > > > Config is a real basic one used
> > successfully
> > > > in
> > > > > > many other locations.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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BGP newbie question, interesting

2000-12-18 Thread Dan West

Is it possible to run IBGP as the ONLY IGP for a
particular network (AS)??

I know all routers would know about outside networks,
but how about different internal areas knowing about
what other networks are advertising

BGP seems so capable that it could almost be done
without OSPF, EIGRP, etc

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NAP peering media

2000-12-30 Thread Dan West

Hey Gang,


Just wondering how those NAP xchange points are
connected physically. VIA 

GIG ETHER?
100Mb Fast Ether?
ATM PVCs?

Basically, switched and not routed right? I am trying
to learn about MPLS also. Anyways

Anybody in this group actually working at a MAJOR
peer?

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NAP xchange media

2001-01-01 Thread Dan West

Hey Gang,

Just wondering how those NAP xchange points are
connected physically. VIA

GIG ETHER?
100Mb Fast Ether?
ATM PVCs?

Basically, switched and not routed right? I am trying
to learn about MPLS also. Anyways

Anybody in this group actually working at a MAJOR
peer?

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UAS errors, help

2001-01-05 Thread Dan West

Hi all,

We are monitoring PRIs and the only errors we get are
UAS.

Anyone know what UAS errors are? I mean besides just
saying it means, "unavailable seconds". I have looked
_all_over Cisco's site and can't find anything besides
"unavailable seconds". Thanks.



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Re: Boson and BSCN

2001-01-08 Thread Dan West

www.boson.com  -- it should be pretty simple to figure
out from there. Point, click and pay.



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RE: Disappointed with ccnp!!

2001-01-09 Thread Dan West
 ccnp?
> > 
> > Could somebody tell me why it goes like this, and
> > what
> > I should do?
> > Am I looking for wrong job?
> > 
> > I will appreiciate your input.
> > 
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Re: ip route question

2001-01-09 Thread Dan West

Yea, arp lookups will be performed until the specified
interface of the default route is found. This is
called recursive arp (??)

I think this is related to the idea of setting an
addresss way upstream as the default route for your
AS. In other words, efforts should be made to set the
default route as something closer to a more aggregated
network. I know I am not making any sense because it's
too early in the morn. Oh well, I know s/body will
slap me down if I make a mistake. That's what makes
this group so cool, IMHO.


--- "Stull, Cory" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> I remember reading somewhere that when you add an IP
> route the ip address of
> the next hop doesn't necessarily need to be the next
> hop or even on the same
> subnet..?
> 
> Reason for asking
> 
> 
> I want RouterC to have to go to RouterA before going
> out routerB to the
> internet because routerA and routerB are on same
> ethernet segment with a
> websense internet filter on that segment being used
> to filter internet
> traffic.Right now RouterC traffic goes
> straight to routerB to
> internet and doesn't get filtered through the
> websense filter.
> 
> Comments?
> 
> Thanks in advance as always.
> Cory
> 
> 
> 
>   (central site)
>   RouterA \
>\
> \
>   \   
>   
>
RouterB\
> RouterC(remote
> site)
>   (central site)  \
> \
>  \
>   \
>   Internet
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RE: Disappointed with ccnp!!

2001-01-09 Thread Dan West

I interviewed at a State of CA networking position.
Level 1 was starting at 55K/year. Level 2 at 65K.
Level 1 work was basically running pings and
traceroutes, diagnosing some frame relay probs...
pretty straight-forward. I didn't get the position
though, because I have no experience with SNA/DLSW  :P
...bummmer...


--- Sam Adams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ah, they tend to underpay most tech positions.  But
> that might not be true
> in SAC A Tomato. But it is true in Silicon Valley
> and SF BA.
> 
> But as far as retirement and generally lower
> stress...well that's a
> different story.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dan West
> Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 7:12 AM
> To: Croyle, James; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Disappointed with ccnp!!
> 
> 
> It all depends on who you work for. I'm working for
> a
> company in Sacramento making good pay and I only
> currently have my CCNA with two years of hands-on.
> Although I do have intensive practical experience
> with
> Unix and Cisco routers.
> 
> If you work for the state or your county, you can
> make
> a LOT of dough. They tend to overpay for most
> positions. If you work for some smaller companies,
> I've found that they will pay you much less for even
> more work  Shop around.
> 
> 
> --- "Croyle, James" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Don't be disappointed with your CCNP, that's for
> > sure...  Just don't
> > consider it the end all to getting that job.  I
> > started with my company in
> > June 1999 with an MSCE and CCNA, neither of which
> I
> > attained with work
> > experience, one with school, the other self study.
> > I got a job setting up
> > small LANs for scanning projects, and then doing
> the
> > scanning along with the
> > others!  Then, moved UP to the help desk!!! 
> Didn't
> > even start there, is
> > what I am getting at.  Got promoted in 2 months to
> > help desk supervisor by
> > doing a good job (I think), then moved to
> > engineering team in 6 months to
> > help design our new Cisco network because there
> were
> > only 2 other CCNAs
> > around to do it.  In June of 2000 I attained my
> > CCNP, with some work
> > experience on the equipment and our test lab at
> > work. Now I would consider
> > myself a valuable member of our Network
> > Infrastructure team, but it didn't
> > happen overnight, and even though I wanted it to
> > happen, I really didn't
> > expect it to at this company based on where I
> > started.
> >
> > One more thought.  There are those, including a
> very
> > senior Microsoft
> > Architect here, who still say I don't have enough
> > experience to go after my
> > CCIE, that it would not benefit myself, or the
> > company because even if I
> > attained it, I would not have enough years of
> > experience to  back that cert.
> > Well to him, I said, I am not going to sit around
> 10
> > years until I have your
> > experience, I am going to study everyday, and get
> > involved with every
> > network problem and design issue I can to gain
> > experience faster in
> > troubleshooting methods, and seeing various levels
> > of problems.  To that he
> > just shook his head and said with a smile...  Kids
> > nowdays..  ;-)  By the
> > way, I am 32.  Not really a kid anymore.  hehehehe
> >
> > HTH
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: chris fong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 11:16 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: Disappointed with ccnp!!
> >
> >
> > I don't know you personally, but I have some
> > suggestions for you to think about. Don't let that
> > certification go to your head. If you give the
> > impression to an employer that you deserve to have
> a
> > job because of your CCNP, you will not get hired.
> > Don't think that you are better than others
> because
> > of
> > your CCNP. Also, your personality and attitude
> that
> > you show during interviews is critical in landing
> > that
> > first job. Show that you can be a team player and
> > can
> > work well and get along with almost anyone. And
> > lastly, consider other entry level positions, such
> > as
> > help desk, because you don't have any actual work
> > experience. Employers don't really consider "lab"

Re: Using Register IP Address on your Private network

2001-01-10 Thread Dan West

SmartAlec answer: 

Because people don't have the technical knowledge to
implement NAT. I would bet that many folks out there
even in the networking world have ever heard of it.

Otherwise, like others have pointed out, people may
encounter problems when gaming online, running VPNs,
etc. 


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>   With the shortage of registerd addresses out there
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> programs work with NAT. Then why are we wasting
> register addresses on private 
> networks for?
> 
> Brian
> 
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Re: Passed BSCN!

2001-01-12 Thread Dan West

Congrats! and a question...

Is the material pretty evenly balanced between OSPF,
EIGRP, BGP and redistribution?  Thanks.

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> I  passed BSCN today with score 919. Thanks to the
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Re: reason of "controller e1 up and down continuously"

2001-01-15 Thread Dan West

Most likely

When we see channels bouncing on our PRIs, we usually
suspect a telco loop or some switch module issues.
Sometimes even running through a MUX or framing
mismatch causes trouble. But if using HDLC solved the
problem then that probably was the problem... :)  You
guys must both have Cisco boxes on both ends. We
encapsulate w/ PPP.

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> when i setup a point to point link with my
> colleague,
> my contro e1 0 up and down continuously,at first
> we thought maybe the physical link's problem,we made
> local loop and far loop but no result.
> finally,we found my colleague encap the link with
> FR,
> but i encap hdlc.After he changed it to hdlc,all is
> OK,
> 
> Is  encapsulation difference the reason of this?
> why?
> 
> thanks
> 
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Re: OSPF: Master / Slave relationship

2001-01-16 Thread Dan West

The BDR will become the DR if the DR goes down. It
will stay the DR even_if_ the original DR comes back
online. Point to point links down have the option of
DR/BDR.

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>  Could someone explain what is master/slave
> relationship during DBD
> exchange. My understanding is that since DR is the
> Router with the highest
> priority value, it will always be the master. So why
> have this definition ?
> Or is it only used on Point-to-Point links, which
> don't elect DR & BDR?
> TIA
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Re: problem on ping

2001-01-18 Thread Dan West

Any of these, or more, are possible reasons. Best bet
is to run a traceroute to the target network and look
for hops with packet loss/high latency times... Could
be a public peering congestion problem, private
peering congestion problem...also could be the gateway
into your network... many possibilites.

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> Hi all,
> 
> When I ping to a internal network from Internet. The
> time is very long,
> it is greater than 2500ms. I would like to know what
> factors make this
> happen, is it the routers CPU work load? or there is
> a routing problem?
> 
> 
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Re: AS numbers - Is there a global crisis?

2001-01-19 Thread Dan West

I wouldn't think that's t much of an issue. As far
as I understand it, you only get assigned a public AS
number if you're a m_a_j_o_r provider--like PSInet,
AT&T, MCI, etc...

If you're a mid-sized to smaller organization, you
probably can get by using a private AS from a larger
provider.  Can s/body confirm this?


--- "Fowler, Joey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I've been studying BGP, but something that keeps
> bothering me when I study
> it is that there are less than 65000 , (64511 to be
> exact) public AS
> numbers. It would seem to me that these would
> quickly run as out, as I would
> think that there are that many corporations
> world-wide that connected to the
> internet via BGP. Any thoughts on this?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> Joey Fowler
> 
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Re: Reccomended resources for BGP.

2001-01-22 Thread Dan West

Must haves:  Routing TCP/IP by Jeff Doyle 

and the Halabi book "Internet Routing Architectures"
v2.  They complement each other well.


--- george <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I am preparing for the CCNP level certification. I
> prefer to use the CCIE
> study series for the exams instead of studying a
> book dedicated to an
> exam.(worked great for the switching exam).  Routing
> tcp vol 1 does not
> touch BGP. What do you reccomend for learning BGP
> from ground zero. Need to
> learn cisco commands, a cisco book would be ideal.
> (don't want to buy a book
> dedicated to a particular exam). Any other
> recomendations would be
> appreciated.
> Too bad TCP vol 2 not around yet.
> 
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cisco press errors--2nd post

2000-07-15 Thread Dan West

I noticed at least one error in the "Routing TCP/IP"
book involving a subnet address. 

I am wondering if anyone knows where to get ahold of
corrections for these kinds of errors. -- From Cisco
Press or otherwise. I have heard similar complaints in
the past.

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Re: Access List ping

2000-07-21 Thread Dan West

If you wanted to do this, why not write an access
lists blocking the specific hosts/subnets that you do
not want to be reachable with ICMP and permit all ICMP
after that?

Why do you want to block local ICMP anyways and allow
external? It's usually the other way around.
--- SH Wesson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to create an access list such that a user can
> ping out and get a 
> response, but at the same time to be able to not
> have anyone to ping in.  I 
> tried an access list denying icmp for IN on that
> interface, but that totally 
> stops the pings from going out or in.  Any
> assistance on how I can get this 
> accomplish would be greatly appreciated.  Thankx.
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RE:

2000-07-22 Thread Dan West

"hence they can't be ping'ed.  Same with
> ATM switches"

Really? I run traceroutes on the web often and many
interfaces show up as being ATM_BlahBlah.IP_Address.
Are these not ATM interfaces showing up in the output
of traceroute?


--- Vijay Ramcharan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not so.  Assign an IP address to an interface and
> they're perfectly
> pingable.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Wang [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 5:24 PM
> To: Sameh Badros; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: 
> 
> 
> Bridge is a layer 2 device.  They will not show up
> as a "hop" when doing a
> traceroute, hence they can't be ping'ed.  Same with
> ATM switches, or LAN
> switches like a Cat5.
> 
> HTH,
> 
> Rog
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > Sameh Badros
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2000 2:19 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject:
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I am using Bridging between 2 routers connected
> through T1 but I am unable
> > to ping from either side..any ideas ?
> >
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> >
> > Sameh
> >
> >
> >
> >
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F/R illegal mask question

2000-08-06 Thread Dan West

Sorry, but I couldn't find the answer to this in the
groupstudy archives...

2500/2600 Router (can't recall exact model): IOS ver
11.3.x

Int s0/0 (module) 

encapsulation frame-relay
point-to-point
ip classless

Not the exact copy, but you get the idea. We set up
the 10.0.0.1 address for the int, but it won't take
ANY subnet mask besides 255.0.0.0.

Is this s/thing to do with the IOS? the F/R interface?
s/thing we didn't add? Did add incorrectly?

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CSMA/CD : full duplex

2000-05-10 Thread Dan West

Sorry to ask such a simple question--but the CCNA book
is still unclear as to what's going on.

Half-duplex ethernet uses CSMA/CD for arbitration on
the link. Does full duplex use it as well for
arbitration? The book makes it sound like if you are
running full-duplex that the CSMA/CD is not necessary.
It mentions half-duplex looping a duplicate frame onto
the recieve wire from the transmit wire.

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frame relay newbie question

2000-05-30 Thread Dan West

Is it common/practical to run IP and IPX over the same
frame relay subinterface?

I am only asking because in Lammle's CCNA prep book it
is mentioned that one of the advantages of
subinterfaces is that you can run IP on one and IPX on
another. BUT, the example directly following that
statement shows IP and IPX running on the same
subinterfaces.

More importantly, is IPX even going to be an issue
much longer? 

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BGP question

2000-06-14 Thread Dan West

My former employer (an ISP) had BGP peering with our
upstream provider(Telco). As I understand it so far,
BGP4 is used to advertise routes between autonomous
systems. One day I ran a web-based traceroute to my
old haunt and it showed them having the same
autonomous system number as our bandwidth provider.
Were we unnecessarily using BGP? I don't understand
why our telco and we (the ISP) had the same AS number.


Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the AS number in
BGP?

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Syntax confusion

2000-06-24 Thread Dan West

Can anyone tell me why Cisco made the bit syntax
different between access lists and the "ip route"
command???

Example: 

permit ip any host 10.1.1.0 0.0.0.255

In this case, the zeros in the second column match
exactly and the 255 is a wildcard.

BUT then:

ip route 10.1.1.0 255.255.255.0 w.x.y.z

Here, the 255 matches exactly and the zero looks like
wildcard. Is it just me or is this unnecessarily
absurd?

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: BGP question

2000-06-30 Thread Dan West

This BGP gizmo looks rather intriguing...Can anyone
recommed ONE comprehensive, well-written book on iBGP
and eBGP?

Many thanks. ( from myself and elgrande.com)


--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >Sounds like you guys were doing IBGP...
> 
> 
> Could be, but there are several other explanations.
> 
> Let me go into the underlying rationale.  According
> to RFC1930, which 
> is a must-read in understanding BGP, an AS is a set
> of addresses and 
> routers, under one or more administrations, that
> presents a common 
> routing policy to the internet.  So, if Dan's
> employer had Internet 
> connectivity only through the provider, the customer
> would logically 
> be part of the provider's AS.,
> 
> Providers are usually reluctant to let customers
> have access to their 
> iBGP.  You will see cases where the provider
> controls an iBGP router 
> at the customer premises.
> 
> More likely, the provider assigned a private AS
> number to the 
> customer, and either made it part of a confederation
> or used a rather 
> undocumented Cisco feature called remove-private-as.
>  By doing this, 
> you have all the power of eBGP policy controls, but
> you don't burn a 
> registered AS number.
> 
> I'd like to throw out a related question to people
> that recently have 
> taken BGP in a Cisco course, or in certification
> tests.  On this 
> list, the term "advanced BGP" is used a good deal in
> relation to the 
> new material. It had been my experience that the BGP
> in ACRC was so 
> oversimplified as to have no relationship with
> anything one would see 
> in the ISP world.  In particular, there was
> handwaving about 
> "policies," but very little about why one has
> policies or how they 
> are enforced -- just the urban legend that "BGP
> carries policies."
> 
> I'm doing a series of tutorials on BGP at
> certificationzone.com, the 
> second of which is in the free area of the CCIE
> zone.  To me, they 
> are at the "BGP 101 or BGP 102" level in terms of
> real-world Internet 
> operations.
> 
> Within what people can say within NDA, are complex
> AS path 
> expressions being considered? QoS policy setting
> based on AS 
> path/address/community?Hierarchical route
> reflectors? The flavors 
> of hard and soft refresh? Load-sharing policies?
> Cold potato routing? 
> etc., etc., etc
> 
> What topics that people are seeing in BGP course
> material or tests on 
> which you'd most like additional tutorials? 
> Unfortunately, I don't 
> approach this topic through the eyes of a person
> starting with the 
> technology.
> 
> >
> >-B
> >"Dan West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> >  > My former employer (an ISP) had BGP peering
> with our
> >  > upstream provider(Telco). As I understand it so
> far,
> >  > BGP4 is used to advertise routes between
> autonomous
> >  > systems. One day I ran a web-based traceroute
> to my
> >  > old haunt and it showed them having the same
> >  > autonomous system number as our bandwidth
> provider.
> >  > Were we unnecessarily using BGP? I don't
> understand
> >  > why our telco and we (the ISP) had the same AS
> number.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Am I misunderstanding the purpose of the AS
> number in
> >  > BGP?
> >  >
> >  > Many thanks.
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Re: BGP question

2000-07-01 Thread Dan West

Thanks for the information. Just for other readers
note, BGP is not included in Routing TCP/IP...that's
why I asked about BGP specifically. ;)


--- "Raymond Everson (Rainman)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> There are TWO, and ONLY two books comprehensive
> enough to be referred to
> as the "burning bush" of BGP... the more
> understandable, readable is:
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578700418/qid=962457671/sr=1-2/102-1944739-3768950
> 
> The classic tech library is not complete however,
> without THE Bible of
> BGP, written by the guy most influential in BGP
> deployment, Bassam Halabi
> ("Sam"):
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1562056522/qid=962457981/sr=1-1/102-1944739-3768950
> 
>  which is soon to be followed by it's Second
> Edition...
> 
> Please do not accept any substitutes, no kidding.
> R/
> Rainman
> 
> Dan West wrote:
> 
> > This BGP gizmo looks rather intriguing...Can
> anyone
> > recommed ONE comprehensive, well-written book on
> iBGP
> > and eBGP?
> >
> > Many thanks. ( from myself and elgrande.com)
> >
> > --- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >Sounds like you guys were doing IBGP...
> > >
> > >
> > > Could be, but there are several other
> explanations.
> > >
> > > Let me go into the underlying rationale. 
> According
> > > to RFC1930, which
> > > is a must-read in understanding BGP, an AS is a
> set
> > > of addresses and
> > > routers, under one or more administrations, that
> > > presents a common
> > > routing policy to the internet.  So, if Dan's
> > > employer had Internet
> > > connectivity only through the provider, the
> customer
> > > would logically
> > > be part of the provider's AS.,
> > >
> > > Providers are usually reluctant to let customers
> > > have access to their
> > > iBGP.  You will see cases where the provider
> > > controls an iBGP router
> > > at the customer premises.
> > >
> > > More likely, the provider assigned a private AS
> > > number to the
> > > customer, and either made it part of a
> confederation
> > > or used a rather
> > > undocumented Cisco feature called
> remove-private-as.
> > >  By doing this,
> > > you have all the power of eBGP policy controls,
> but
> > > you don't burn a
> > > registered AS number.
> > >
> > > I'd like to throw out a related question to
> people
> > > that recently have
> > > taken BGP in a Cisco course, or in certification
> > > tests.  On this
> > > list, the term "advanced BGP" is used a good
> deal in
> > > relation to the
> > > new material. It had been my experience that the
> BGP
> > > in ACRC was so
> > > oversimplified as to have no relationship with
> > > anything one would see
> > > in the ISP world.  In particular, there was
> > > handwaving about
> > > "policies," but very little about why one has
> > > policies or how they
> > > are enforced -- just the urban legend that "BGP
> > > carries policies."
> > >
> > > I'm doing a series of tutorials on BGP at
> > > certificationzone.com, the
> > > second of which is in the free area of the CCIE
> > > zone.  To me, they
> > > are at the "BGP 101 or BGP 102" level in terms
> of
> > > real-world Internet
> > > operations.
> > >
> > > Within what people can say within NDA, are
> complex
> > > AS path
> > > expressions being considered? QoS policy setting
> > > based on AS
> > > path/address/community?Hierarchical route
> > > reflectors? The flavors
> > > of hard and soft refresh? Load-sharing policies?
> > > Cold potato routing?
> > > etc., etc., etc
> > >
> > > What topics that people are seeing in BGP course
> > > material or tests on
> > > which you'd most like additional tutorials?
> > > Unfortunately, I don't
> > > approach this topic through the eyes of a person
> > > starting with the
> > > technology.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >-B
> > > >"Dan West" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
> message
> > >
> >
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > >  > My form

Re: how to configure VLAN on 2900 switch-how about full duplex an d spanning tree

2000-07-03 Thread Dan West
gt; > interface FastEthernet0/4
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/5
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/6
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/7
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/8
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/9
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/10
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/11
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/12
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/13
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/14
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/15
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/16
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/17
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/18
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/19
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/20
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/21
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/22
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/23
> > > > !
> > > > interface FastEthernet0/24
> > > > !
> > > > interface VLAN1
> > > >  ip address 57.198.165.200 255.255.254.0
> > > >  no ip directed-broadcast
> > > >  no ip route-cache
> > > > !
> > > > ip default-gateway 57.198.164.1
> > > > snmp-server engineID local
> 0009020196F23840
> > > > snmp-server community private RW
> > > > snmp-server community public RO
> 
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Cisco Press Errors

2000-07-04 Thread Dan West

Does anyone know of websites/newsgroups that post
corrections to mistakes in Cisco Press publications?
They may be official or not-- I don't care.

I found a subnet address error in the Routing TCP/IP
book for one of the static routing config examples. I
was pulling my hair out thinking I was not calculating
the subnet address correctly. That was an error I
could iron out myself but I am concerned about more
broad concepts and such that may be misprints...

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