Re: Whats the difference between Classful & Classless??? [7:38867]
SIMPLIFIED! classful relies on the class of the ip address, since subnet mask information is not advertised. Classless, means your free to use whatever subnet mask you want,. Since subnet mask information is supplied with updates... - Original Message - From: "Matt Saunders" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2002 2:40 PM Subject: Whats the difference between Classful & Classless??? [7:38856] > Hi Group, > > Im really struggling to understand the requirement in using the ip classless > command when you are configuring a default route. > > I noticed that RIP 2 is a classless protocol & RIP ver 1 is a classfull. > > Can anyone help me understand what the difference is (in simple terms!!) as > i want to move on with my studies though im sure this is something thats > going to come up again > > Cheers > > Matt Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38867&t=38867 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Rack [7:38796]
I use music racks... they are designed for amps, and mixers etc... usually
for DJs. They have a good counterbalance system, and are on rollers... They
come in 2 standards... europe and american... the american standard is the
same peg spacing as network equipment. and they look sharp
They are under 100.00 usually and stand about 4.5 feet or so.
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> The rack I would really like would cost me a couple of dinners and a
> night at the movies but I'll have to be content with what I have right
> now. :P
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> Woody
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> I am looking for a rack with shelves as well, any advice would be
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Pix Firewall [7:21924]
I have been hitting every bookstore, looking for PIX books... I would like to get training guides, or admin guides, or whatever is available,... Anything out there anyone could recommend, and where to get it? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=21924&t=21924 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Active Directory Ports & PIX [7:19772]
It depends on your site connector protocol... If your using smtp for intersite transmission, then you would need port 25 open... But you have a few options, so sheck the protocol for you site connectors. - Original Message - From: Dave Luancing To: Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 9:36 AM Subject: Active Directory Ports & PIX [7:19772] > Does anyone know what ports need to be opened in a PIX > to allow servers to join the domain and replicate. > > Thanks, > Dave > > __ > Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? > Donate cash, emergency relief information > http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=19809&t=19772 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ISDN sims [7:18861]
Ill trade you the emulator for a 2525 with modules, or a 4000m with modules either way. - Original Message - From: Daniel Cotts To: Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 4:23 PM Subject: RE: ISDN sims [7:18861] > ISDN is a good part of BCRAN. > It appears that you could use a router with three or more serial interfaces. > Also another ISDN BRI interface. A 2522 would be a good choice or consider a > 2523 that has a Token Ring port. Next router after that could be a 2513. > Can you afford the 2522 and keep the Teltone? Best choice if it doesn't > result in divorce. > If the Teltone is a current model I'd be glad to swap even for a 2522. (I'd > be way ahead of the game. ) > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 3:28 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: ISDN sims [7:18861] > > > > > > I was wondering will I need to learn ISDN for any of the CCNP > > exams...the > > reason Im asking this is because I own a Teltone simulator > > and I'm thinking > > of dropping it for a 2522 router. I currently own two 2501, > > 2503, 2509, > > 2514. > > > > let me know > > > > thank you > > Report misconduct > > and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18867&t=18861 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: True story about console port access problem [7:17860]
LOL, Oh yea, luckily, I happened to look at the keyboard and just tried turning scroll lock off... and it worked. it was a lucky first attempt - Original Message - From: Wilson, Bradley To: Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 8:37 AM Subject: RE: True story about console port access problem [7:17860] > To paraphrase Danny Vermin... > > "I had that same problem once. ONCE." > > ;-) > > > > -Original Message- > From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2001 9:19 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: True story about console port access problem [7:17860] > > > Let me tell you a little story this rainy Thursday morning in Texas. > > I thought I had seen most problems with console port access - the flow > control that is set to hardware instead of none, the cable being wrong, etc. > But, I was wrong! > > I was trying to get access to a 2924, but could only see output. It would > not react to anything I typed. I was using the standard Hyper Terminal that > comes with NT. > > Okay, my first thought was that the PC I was using was just weird (which it > is btw), so I tried a different PC - same problem. > > Then I tried another cable - same problem. > > Then I tried another cable with another terminal adapter (rj45 to db9) - > same problem. > > Then I tried another cisco device that I had telnet access to also - same > problem. > > Then I telnettet into the cisco device to verify the 9600/N/8/1 - no > problem. > > Then I tried a cisco device that I just pulled out of the box, so I was sure > that there was no restrictions or anything on it - same problem. > > After an hour of playing around with cables, adapters, settings and all, I > happened to look at the keyboard, and I noticed that Scroll Lock was on. The > keyboard is connected to a keyboard/mouse/monitor switch where you get the > menu by clicking the scroll lock. After I turned scroll lock off, everything > worked just fine. > > The reason for this e-mail is to save you guys out there time, and prevent > you from start throwing around with the equipment because of frustration. > Simply check the scroll lock, and you have found or ruled out one cause. > > Hope you found this a good little lesson to add in your trouble shooting > book. > > Have a great day, > > Ole > > ~~~ > Ole Drews Jensen > Systems Network Manager > CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ~~~ > http://www.RouterChief.com > ~~~ > NEED A JOB ??? > http://www.oledrews.com/job > ~~~ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17874&t=17860 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Connecting 2501 Ethernet. [7:17546]
Sam, The AUI connector does not contain a transceiver... So for any connection you will need a transceiver. They make them for BNC, and RJ45. If you are needing an RJ45 connection, just go and buy a transceiver for that purpose... You can get them at some electronics stores, or look on ebay. they arent that expensive. - Original Message - From: sam sneed To: Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 12:18 PM Subject: Connecting 2501 Ethernet. [7:17546] > I am new to Cisco hardware so this may seem an a dumb question. I found a > 2501 router at work. The Eth0 int is a DB-15 interface. I looked at Cisco's > site and the instrucitons showed how to connect it to a 10base2 network > only, using a transceiver. What cable/part do I need to connect to a regular > Cat 5 network? Our production router is a 4700 with regular ethernet ports, > like every other modern router or network device so I am confused by this > interface. > > Also, do they still ship new 2500 series routers with this arcane > interface? > > thanks > > > sam sneed Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=17553&t=17546 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Friday Funnie #2, Couldn't let this one go by!! [7:14809]
Actually, If I remember correctly, he read the Japanese book of change... called Cha-Ching, which sold millions of copies, and was one of the biggest money makers for the publishing company... Which is also why we refer to making alot of money as Cha Ching(as in the cash register door opening..). This is where he discovered that One, meaning full, and zero, of course being very empty!! And they bridged the gap for algebra? Damn im out of the loop - Original Message - From: Priscilla Oppenheimer To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 12:13 PM Subject: RE: Friday Funnie #2, Couldn't let this one go by!! [7:14809] > In ancient India, binary numbers were used in music to classify meters. > > African bush tribes sent messages via a combination of high and low pitches. > > Australian aborigines and New Guinea Tribesman counted by two's. > > In 1666, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz wrote the essay "De Arte Combinatoria" > which laid a method for expressing all things in the law of thought with > precision mathematics, including binary numbers. After reading the Chinese > "Book of Changes," or "I Ching," he refined his work and came to believe > that binary numbers represented Creation, the number one portraying God, > and zero depicting the Void. > > In the 19th Century, British mathematician George Boole invented the system > of symbolic logic call Boolean algebra. > > In 1867, Charles Sanders Peirce introduced Boolean algebra to the United > States. > > In 1936, Claude Shannon, may he RIP, bridged the gap between algebraic > theory and practical application. > > > At least that's what I read on the Internet, so it must be true!? ;-) > > Priscilla > > P.S. I don't think the UNIVAC I was core either. > > > At 08:34 AM 8/16/01, Howard C. Berkowitz wrote: > > >That's what I meant Howard. I think I left out a few words as I do that > most > > >of the time. I think much quicker than I type. > > > > > >My understanding of this: > > > > > >All computer machines were decimal[base10] until the 40's. Atanasoff was > the > > >original one who suggested binary to be used instead of base10 to correct > > >the computational probems that existed in measuring current/voltage. In > > >those days with base10, one was a little current, two was a little more, > > >three a little more than that and so on and so on. It was not a very good > > >way to be accurate and was met with many failures. With the induction of > > >binary for current measureage, it became easy and computers were on their > > >way to being a successful marketing venture. One was on, zero was off. > Very > > >simple. But the original idea of the binary counting concept started with > > >Ada. Not in the computer sense, but in a general sense of numbers. > > > > > >Or at least that what I have read. > > > > > >Jenn > > > > > >It could have been that Ada, Lady Lovelace, did invent binary as a > >means of representation. There's no question that Boolean algebra, > >and logical binary operations, come from George Boole. > > > >I honestly don't know who made the suggestion of binary computer > >electronics. It had to have taken place before the invention of > >magnetic core memory, which is binary or, at best, ternary. Before > >core, there were essentially analog storage devices like specialized > >CRTs (storage as light) or mercury delay lines (storage as > >vibrations). > > > >Now I'm trying to remember what was the first fully core-based > >machine. I want to say the ATLAS* in the UK, but I'm not sure. > >UNIVAC I was commercial, but I don't think it was core based. The > >first commercial core machine might have been a later UNIVAC or > >possibly the IBM 701. The IBM 650 -- and I actually worked in the > >same computer room as one still chugging away before it was > >successfully emulated -- used a magnetic head-per-track disk (called > >a drum) as main memory. (It was the first computer that produced the > >Consumer Price Index, one of those applications that HAD to work). > > > > > >*our UK list members expecially should learn something about the > >history of the ATLAS, which was done at an English university and > >pioneered a great number of computer innovations, such as interrupts. > >It never gets the historical credit it should. > > > > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > > >From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > >Sent: Sunday, August 05, 2001 4:23 AM > > >To: Jennifer Cribbs; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >Subject: RE: Friday Funnie #2, Couldn't let this one go by!! [7:14809] > > > > > > > > >Not serious, but the intellectual credit here goes to George Boole--as in > > >"boolean arithmetic." Babbage/Lovelace machines were decimal. > > > > > > > > > > > >At 02:01 PM 8/3/2001 -0400, Jennifer Cribbs wrote: > > >>Is this serious? > > >> > > >>I was under the impression that Ada Lovelace invented the binary counting > > >>system. I was also under the impression that John Atanasoff came up with > > >>the brilliant c
Re: Connecting two Routers through their Serial Interfaces [7:16215]
U, yea You need a DTE DCE back to back serial cable, and make sure to set the clock rate on the DCE side.. This is the most basic way... - Original Message - From: Hamid To: Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 1:33 PM Subject: Connecting two Routers through their Serial Interfaces [7:16209] > Hi group, > > Can anyone tell me if it's possible if you want to connect two routers > Bach-to Back using their serial interfaces. > > And if possible how should I configure the serial inetrfaces. > > Thanks in advace > > Hamid Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16215&t=16215 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Resume [7:15949]
I have never been asked to prove my certs... That is what technical interviews are for... And I never put logis on resumes.. My resumes are on plain white paper, with no frills...just alot of information. Besides, most people in this business know that tech skills are easy to come by... Anyone with knowledge of systems, should be able to get almost any job done with a little research. So get your certs, if they ask you a question in the technical interview you do not know, tell them... Dont BS it, tell them you are not sure exactly, but you can find out. Write down what they ask you. get their email... After the tech interview, send them a thank you email, and include the solutions to questions you could not answer during that interview.. You might be surprised how well that works!!! NO one knows everything... You might be surprised how many people here answer questions after they look it up for you... Your best skill will be that ability to search through information for the answer... - Original Message - From: sam sneed To: Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:07 AM Subject: Re: Resume [7:15949] > I do not think you need to do that. As long as is is visible on your resume > the HR people will trust that you have the certifications. I have been asked > to bring in my actual certificates on 1 occasion. HR people have to go > trough a lot of paperwork as is, so I think it might be a good idea to spare > them of the extra paperwork. > > > sam sneed > > ""men u"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > All I need your perpective on this. Would it be to much if I attached a > copy > > of certificates CCNP and CCNA to my resume > > > > _ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16025&t=15949 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
LOL, that would be so true. Currently, my finacee has no interest in any of this stuff... She just asks me all the time why I read so many books, and why I buy so much equipment... And now the electric bill Not gonna go there! - Original Message - From: Leigh Anne Chisholm To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 2:19 PM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > No no no no no Duck! You got that **ALL WRONG**!!! > > If you got ATM, ISDN, and VOICE, you got NO girlfriends NOR significant > others because they've left you. Your toys are too expensive and you spend > too much time with them! > > The exception to this rule is unless their name happens to be Priscilla O., > Leigh Anne (me), Jennifer Cribbs, Debbie Becker, or Natasha. Then you'd > want to leave us because we'd fight all the time. It's **MY** router, dear! > > (-: > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Donald B Johnson jr > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:56 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > > > Listen if you ATM ISDN and VOICE you got girlfriends. Or significant others. > The PC version. > I just had a short discussion yesterday with a CCIE who used ISDN from a > provider not an emulator and he said that it worked out great. Something > like a couple hundred bucks for setup and 30 a month for two B's x's 2 > connections equal 60 dollars. You can pick up a WIC-1B-S/T or U for about > 100$ > That takes some of the sting out of ISDN. We might have to take that out of > the list of homewreakers and girl getters. :>) > > > - Original Message - > From: "Guy Russell" > To: > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 10:13 AM > Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > > > > I can take care of the ISDN equipment, maybe we can get a pool going... I > > will settle for tuesdays and thursdays... > > > > LOL.. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: Wilson, Bradley > > To: > > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:45 AM > > Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > > > > > > > Careful what you wish for... ;-) > > > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:34 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > > > > > > > > > Hell, I would trade my girlfriend in for some ATM, ISDN, and Voice > > equipment > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:25 PM > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll > > > [7:15318] > > > > > > I would buy both just to wear down the wife. Wait till you > > > have to put some > > > ATM, ISDN or Voice in your life. That is when you need the > > > fancy dance. > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > > From: "Bolton, Travis" > > > To: > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:17 AM > > > Subject: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > > > > > > > > > > Team, > > > > > > > > If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription > > > to > > > > Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson > > > Exams which would > > > you > > > > do if you had to choose one? I'll have to try to convince > > > the boss (wife) > > > > one or the other to purchase :-) Thanks. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > > Travis Bolton > > > > Network Engineer II > > > > CCNP > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15529&t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cisco lab [7:15484]
You can get a 2511 or 516 access router... the 516 will give you 16 telnet ports wich can be hooked up to your console ports on the routers... Or once your configured, you can simply type in the address of the router you want to play with, and it will log you in. - Original Message - From: george gittins To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 12:06 PM Subject: cisco lab [7:15484] > I have some spare cisco routers to play around with, however i was wondering > if there was a way to set up like an telnet server which would be connect > through com ports to my cisco routers. the ideal thing that i would like to > have is not to be phyisicaly connect throught modem or console in order for > me to make changes and not be quick out trough the network. > does anyone have some ideas Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15498&t=15484 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
I can take care of the ISDN equipment, maybe we can get a pool going... I will settle for tuesdays and thursdays... LOL.. - Original Message - From: Wilson, Bradley To: Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 11:45 AM Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > Careful what you wish for... ;-) > > > -Original Message- > From: Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:34 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > > > Hell, I would trade my girlfriend in for some ATM, ISDN, and Voice equipment > > -Original Message- > From: Donald B Johnson jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll > [7:15318] > > I would buy both just to wear down the wife. Wait till you > have to put some > ATM, ISDN or Voice in your life. That is when you need the > fancy dance. > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Bolton, Travis" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:17 AM > Subject: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > > > > Team, > > > > If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription > to > > Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson > Exams which would > you > > do if you had to choose one? I'll have to try to convince > the boss (wife) > > one or the other to purchase :-) Thanks. > > > > Regards, > > > > Travis Bolton > > Network Engineer II > > CCNP > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15487&t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MCSE need help [7:15235]
Cmon guys... be nicer than that... I think you are on the wrong group for that, but its not that big of a deal... It would be nice if you gave us more information... Are you installing a program, run a program, is it on the network, or locally... How was it distributed.. The first part tell you what is up... the class needs to be registered. You can find information on how to do that by searching the knowledge base at microsoft.com the other is searchable too. - Original Message - From: Dennis Bailey To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:17 PM Subject: Re: MCSE need help [7:15235] > Oh my god! Not fatal error 1925! Place the computer in a box and send it > to: > > Bill Gates > Redmond WA > > ""parky chan"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Dear all > > My office applicate is Easy Clear but when i use this > > function to print out > > document , > > it prompt > > "OLE error code 0x80040154 class not registered OLE object is being > > ignored Record > > number :4 " > > > > then prompt fatal error " Error number is 1925 " > > How to solve this problem Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15458&t=15235 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]
What is CZONE??? What is the internet address??? - Original Message - From: Sean C. To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:41 PM Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318] > Hi Travis, > > Without trying to get flamed, I have to ask what you really want to do - > learn the stuff or just get a passing on the CCIE written? If you want to > learn, CZone is great (how can you go wrong with experts like Howard giving > the explanations). But if you just want to get that passing grade on the > written - go with Boson. I bought Boson tests 1 and 2, took the CCIE > written and had 44 questions out of the 100 that were on the CCIE that were > also on the 2 Boson exams (even down to the same diagrams and wrong > answers). So basically, I started out with a 44 before even starting on the > CCIE (unless the Boson test was wrong). In the long run - I would go with > CZone. I use CZone everyday for my lab studies - haven't touched Boson once > since passing the CCIE written. > > HTH, > Sean C. > > CCNP, CCDP, MCSE > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15335&t=15318 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15313]
Ive been working with NT for years, and TCP/IP just as long... Developing sites and deployments... I personally learned subnetting through binary, and have gotten to the point that I can calculate quickly in my head... now this to me is even quicker than opening some program, typing in a few figures, and getting the answer... Most people probobly use the calcs etc, but the idea is to make sure you have an understanding. When going to a client site, and looking at the way their subnets are set up, I think it is essential to be able to glance at the environment, and have a good idea if there are any mis configurations of subnetting. this could quickly rule out something we might not catch right away... Especially using VLSM... some may never get to that point, and thats ok too, but you can probobly add 1+1 faster than you can type it in on a calc.. - Original Message - From: Ken To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:29 AM Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306] > This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education. > I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of > what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using a > program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a > plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the network > or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually? > It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the > destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source of > error. As Cisco even says; "The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to > calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such > calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common > mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal > numbers." So what is it I am not understanding? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15313&t=15313 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: inquiry [7:15079]
LOL, that pretty much summs it up!!! No, the test is not difficult.. The questions are short, and are on a basic understanding of the key points. You are not expected to know as much detail as you would in a CCNP test... But with proper studying, you could do very well without much hands on... You could get the Sybex book for CCNA 2.0, it will be easy for you to understand, and will get you a good foundation for the rest of your career certs... Nothing will replace the hands on, but for CCNA, you could do it! - Original Message - From: Brian To: Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:17 AM Subject: Re: inquiry [7:15079] > only if u have no experience and dont prepare. > > Bri > > - Original Message - > From: "Rodel P Hipolito" > To: > Sent: Monday, August 06, 2001 11:39 PM > Subject: inquiry [7:15079] > > > > Hi, just want to know if the exam for CCNA is too hard? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15139&t=15079 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNP Switching Exam #640-504 [7:14480]
Read the Sybex book and the Cisco Press book, and read them a couple of times, to make sure you understand everything... And you should do very well!!! - Original Message - From: Rajeev Karamchand To: Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 8:23 AM Subject: CCNP Switching Exam #640-504 [7:14480] > I need recommendation for books for CCNP Switching > Exam #640-504 > > regards > rajeev > > > = > Rajeev Karamchand > MCSE,MCSE+I,MCDBA,CCNA > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14484&t=14480 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: checkpoint list? [7:14359]
Great idea.. I would like to know as well... - Original Message - From: Provost, Robert To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:29 AM Subject: checkpoint list? [7:14359] > Sorry, off topic -- > > Does anyone know of a list like this for Checkpoint? > > Thanks for your help, > Rob Provost Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14365&t=14359 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccnp bootcamp [7:14356]
Typically, I would not advocate any Boot camp... They are good to help you get to pass a test, but then you only have a paper... Not too useful in a technical interview... Yes, companies dont trust paper anymore, you have to prove it now!!! But I can say I did attend a 2 day CCNA bootcamp. My company was going to send me for training, but it had to be on a weekend... thus the boot camp. I basically was going to see what kind of routers I should get for my own lab, and to play with them first hand. Now I was going to give the guy a chance, but wasnt really optimistic on the idea Well, Was I surprised. The knowledge from the instructor was great, and answered alot of questions, he also stayed late each day to let us play on the routers etc...and ask questions as much as we wanted... He also showed up early in case we had more questions after going over everything that night before... I would have to say I would give this guy 2 thumbs up!!! The company was IT Mentor www.itmentor.com now they do have a CCNP bootcamp, but its only held in California, but you have access all day and night to their extensive lab!!! So big bonuses!! Daniel Altbaum was the instructor, (sorry if I butchered the name) he also does tech editing for Cisco press... - Original Message - From: Sites, Bob To: Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 9:02 AM Subject: ccnp bootcamp [7:14356] > Does anyone have first hand experience with these bootcamps that could share > their opinion with me? I was looking at ccprep.com's 12 day course seriously > until I called their 877 number and the phone system their doesn't work > properly. I am in the Virginia area and would appreciate any > recommendations. Willing to travel to training. > > Bob Sites > System Engineer > Valley Health System, IS Dept. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Confidentiality Notice: > > This e-mail message, including any attachments, is for the sole use of the > intended recipients and may contain confidential and privileged information. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If > you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply > e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14360&t=14356 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Probobly a stupid question.... [7:14273]
I currently run NAT on a 2000 Server... One interface is using an auto ip address that is received from the ISP... The other Nic, is linked to my switch and to my router stack... What I would like to do is take one of my routers, and configure nat on it. This will replace the 2000 server. I dont need advice on the server end, I have that well taken care of, what I am trying to come up with is a way to have one interface of my router to accept a dynamic IP address, and to work nat on that router, the dynamic interface being the outside interface, or public interface Yea, I know about the Linksys router as well, and almost went ahead and bought it, was trying to figure out how to make it do something it probobly cant. You know, one of those I wonder if? deals... thats all. - Original Message - From: Patrick Ramsey To: ; Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 5:11 PM Subject: Re: Probobly a stupid question [7:14273] You mean 2000 servers accessing the internet via dynamic nat? Or you have 2000 static translations inbound? And when you say "server interface" do you mean the ethernet interface on the router that the servers are beihind? Set up maybe like a DMZ? I mean, you can certainly set up your DSL connection to be established and pull an ip address automagically if that is what your isp supports. Give us a little bit more detail on your goals. -Patrick >>> "Guy Russell" 07/30/01 05:47PM >>> Is it possible to set up NAT on a router for DSL, allowing the DSL side connection to receive a DHCP generated address?? I have been running 2000 server Nat, and using my DSL connection with no problems, but would like to remove the server interface completely... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14282&t=14273 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Probobly a stupid question.... [7:14273]
Is it possible to set up NAT on a router for DSL, allowing the DSL side connection to receive a DHCP generated address?? I have been running 2000 server Nat, and using my DSL connection with no problems, but would like to remove the server interface completely... Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14273&t=14273 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Passed BCMSN today [7:14255]
- Original Message - From: J. Li To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:32 PM Subject: Passed BCMSN today [7:14255] > 64 questions, 75 minutes > 699 to pass, scored 879 > > Comments: > I passed this one on friday, I found it to be very easy, but agree some of the wordings were poor... Cisco press book had several of the questions in it directly, It was almost like I saw them before the test on some of them. Very strange... I used Sybex, and Cisco Press to study, but that is my typical MO I do not use any Boson or any other practice tests... But have heard that the Troy Techs are worthless from a few people. I will be taking the remote access test next friday, and then all I will have left is the Support for CCNP, and then I will knock out the CCDA and CCDP real quick... I have heard if I study for the CCDP, then I am well on my way for the CCIE > 1. Poor wording. > 2. 3 duplicate questions - exactly the same. It's > like double jeopardy. If you know the answers, great. > Otherwise, you lose twice as fast! > 3. Boson: bought BOSON test #2. Didn't help much > directly on my exam but it's very helpful for learning > the materials. > > Materials used: > 2 Cisco Press books > BOSON Test #2 > CBT > Classroom training (1 yr ago) > Plus experience > > Jianliang Li > > > __ > Do You Yahoo!? > Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger > http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14262&t=14255 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167]
Hes, 19 He just graduated from highSchool, where all of his friends were taking he academic CCNA from the highschool. He just got in late... LOL, - Original Message - From: William Gragido To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 3:25 PM Subject: RE: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] > I can't resist, how old are you? > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Greg Macaulay > Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 9:33 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Age Challenge for Oldest CCNP/DP on Earth!! [7:14167] > > > I need proof -- date of birth, place of birth, whether you are left-or > right-handed or ambidextrous, etc. Without that -- I still claim the title. > In fact, I am taking on the Republicans spin in Florida on this. My age has > been broadcast over this list for months and no one "successfully" came > forth and refuted my claim to the title. Thus, there has been an age count, > and an age recount and even a recount on the age recount -- and there has > not been anyone who can prove BRD (lawyers shorthand for Beyond a Reasonable > Doubt!) that I am not the duly "self-appointed" and "self-anointed" oldest > (albeit I concede not the wisest) CCNP/CCDP on this earth!! > > If necessary, I will call upon Ms. Katherine Harris (from Florida) to > mediate this issue!!! > > See, we old folks have nothing on our plates so we can engage in this > nonsensical, time-wasting behavior (at least while I'm having my first > cuppa' tea this a.m. Then its on to work!!! > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth (pending recount!) > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2001 8:57 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: For those studying VoIP/CVoice! [7:14061] > > > Greg, > > Good post on a reference URL for VoIP. I will be taking Cisco IP Voice > class next week and will refer to some of these links. > > TNX > > Note: However, you'll have to revise your signature as I think for the > moment > I am > most likely the Oldest and Bald CCIE wannabe ;-) at age 59 3/4 > > Ray > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > > > > > FYI > > I discovered this page on CCO by accident. Hope it helps those who are > preparing for CVoice > > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/788/voip/voip.shtml > > > Greg Macaulay > Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth > Lifetime Member of AARP > Retired Attorney/Law Professor > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14261&t=14167 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Pricing for Flash and DRAM for 2501` [7:14158]
Actually, I can attest to that!!! I have bought several items from him in the past, and he is fast to deliver, and eager t make a deal. Everything I have gotten from him has been top notch!! You can email him, and he will respond, and let you know what he can and cant get, and you can bargain with him, if you are getting several items. - Original Message - From: anyong To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Pricing for Flash and DRAM for 2501` [7:14158] > Hi , > > You can find [EMAIL PROTECTED] he sell dram and flash in very low > price. I and my lab friends purchased lot of cables and memories from this > guy as he is located in Hong Kong and so do I. Try barging the price if you > purchase few more item from him, always ok to me. > I met him once for trading 2 25xx router and flash, He is a very polite and > nice person, try mention "anyong" my name if you make some order from him, > ha ha, next time I can get his stuffs more cheaper. > By the way, I know him from ebay called anthonypanda but he doesn't look > like a panda! > > anyong > > ""Wojtek Zlobicki"" wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > I may be picking up some 2501s soon and want to know where I can get my > > hands on inexpensive DRAM and FLASH for these devices. I know I can get > the > > DRAM from Crucial at a very good price but the Flash seems hard to find. > I > > do not care if this memory is Cisco certified or not. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14222&t=14158 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Random thoughts and musings [7:14173]
It will be difficult for you to get into that, for a few reasons... Unless there is an american company already in it, they will probobly keep it for their own companies. (they are very particular about these things) A chineese company probobly wont hire an outsider for this task, since the government is very strict on where funding goes. We are outsiders to them. If you are successful, I think it would be a great gig for a while!!! But I dont think there is much chance of it. If you are really looking to try, look into computerpeople, they have pretty much pulled out of the US, and are strictly for Europe. If there was a company that had a chance, it might be them Their website is www.computerpeople.com - Original Message - From: Natasha To: Sent: Monday, July 30, 2001 12:39 PM Subject: Random thoughts and musings [7:14173] > I've been thinking about the China Olympics in 2008 and the small army > of networking people that they must need to get this thing ready to > roll. Personaly I like project work and would love to get involved in a > gig like that. > I'm planning to vacation in Thailand in the next few months and would > love to find a contact person. > > Anybody have any ideas? > Thanks > -- > Natasha Flazynski > CCNA, MCSE > http://www.ciscobot.com > My Cisco information site. > http://www.botbuilders.com > Artificial Intelligence and Linux development > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=14225&t=14173 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OT Mailing Lists [7:13866]
Saluki.com they have an MCSE mailing list... VERY active.. - Original Message - From: Dale Frohman To: Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 8:56 AM Subject: OT Mailing Lists [7:13866] > Group, > > This is a bit off topic. But i was wondering if anyone could recommend > any mailing lists that help candidates attempting the RHCE and MCSE 2k. > Any information will be appreciated. > > Thanks > > Dale Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13874&t=13866 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: A message from the CCIE Program [7:13789]
Well, I would be interrested to know what their findings were... Is it more challenging? is it up to par??? This would end several discussions about if the CCIE certification was going to be depreciated because of this new lab format, and it does not sound like it will... I wonder where these records are? He said make them public... - Original Message - From: Enid Sorkowitz To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 1:21 PM Subject: A message from the CCIE Program [7:13789] > I am posting this per Lorne Braddock's request. Please don't directly > respond back to me or Lorne because we simply can't reply to everyone > and don't want to appear disrespectful. > > Regards, > > Enid Sorkowitz > Manager, Customer Service > CCIE Program > > -- -- > > The CCIE program team at Cisco Systems, Inc. recently announced a > revised lab exam format and that sparked a good deal of discussion on > this study group alias. I personally do not belong to the alias but one > particular message was brought to my attention because it was not only > inaccurate, it was potentially damaging. Someone posted what they > represented as being valid test score results achieved by Phil Remaker > and Bruce Caslow during their voluntary review of the our new CCIE lab > exam format. Those were NOT valid test scores so the information posted > by this individual was not only inaccurate and inappropriate, it was > misleading and had the potential of professionally damaging the two > individuals he was attributing the scores to. > > Because I do not personally belong to this forum, I elected to contact > the individual who posted the misinformation to make him aware of the > real facts. I was careful to explain that I had no problem with > individuals expressing their personal point of view but, posting > inappropriate, inaccurate and damaging information about someone else > was in no ones best interests. I gave him the facts and asked him to > post a clarification. By doing so, he would correct the records, gain > personal credibility and send a clear signal that facts and not rhetoric > are important. He assured me he would consider my request but, for > reasons known only to him, he apparently decided to let the > misinformation stand. I will not. > > I am the person who approached Bruce Caslow and Phil Remaker with the > request that they evaluate our new CCIE lab exam format. I approached > them along with a couple of other Internet notables because of their > reputations and the industry wide credibility they possess. Both Bruce > and Phil welcomed the opportunity to conduct such an evaluation because > they sincerely care about the ongoing reputation and success of the CCIE > certification program. Both men willingly donated their time, and good > names, to this evaluation. They were also willing to document their > findings and make them available to the interested public. In my > opinion, their's is the kind of activism and involvement that is > beneficial to all who are and aspire to be CCIE certified. > > Bruce and Phil were asked for their opinion on the test's relevance, > degree of challenge, clarity and overall quality. I wanted their > opinion as to whether this test set the proper standard of excellence > for a CCIE level certification exam. Was it as good or better than it's > predecessor? I told both of them that I did not expect, or want, them > to take the lab exam for scoring purposes. It was the new lab exam > format I wanted evaluated, not them. The analogy is as if I was asking > a world class marathoner to jog a new course I mapped out to see if it > suitable for world class record setting purposes. Is the course > challenging enough, is it fair, does it test each athlete thoroughly? > That's what I wanted their opinion on. Neither Bruce nor Phil studied > or prepared in any way other than to clear their calender for the day. > Of the two of them, Phil was the only one to even mention a score and he > did so in a self deprecating way. Bottom line, no valid scores were > tallied or posted. No score should be attributed to either one of them. > > Lorne Braddock > Sr. Manager, CCIE Programs > Cisco Systems Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13796&t=13789 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13775]
I am also trying to get one started in the Houston TX area... It will be both CCNP and CCIE. Anyone interrested could reply to me, I have alot of equipment to use as well. - Original Message - From: Dennis H To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday - How about [7:13773] > I'm in Atlanta and preparing for the lab for early next year. Drop me a > line if you'd like to exchange ideas. There is also a Cisco study group in > Atlanta although from what I've seen they do alot of CCNA and CCNP studies. > > Dennis Hess > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote in message > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > This sounds like a great idea. Are there people in the Atlanta area that > > would be interested in setting up a study group such as this? I am taking > > the lab in mid-November and would be interested in getting together with > > other folks that are preparing for the lab sometime in 2001. > > > > Steve > > > > > > > > Bruce > > Evry > > , , > > > > ek.org> > > Sent by: > > cc: > > nobody@groupsSubject: Re: Washington DC > > Router Roast This Saturday > > > > tudy.com > > > > > > > > 07/24/2001 > > 05:29 > > PM > > > > Please > > respond > > to > > Bruce > > Evry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tue Jul 24 17:21:29 2001 > > Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2001 05:24:58 -0400 (EDT) > > From: Bruce Evry > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Washington DC Router Roast This Saturday > > > > Dear Friends, > > > >Our DC Cisco group will be holding its July meeting: > >Saturday, July 28, 2001 > >Time: 10 am to 4 pm > >Place: Bruce's Hilltop Estate > > > >We will, as usual, talk of many things! > > > >If it is nice outside We will take the routers and switches > > outside and practise Cisco technologies under the trees > > (if not we route and switch inside) > > > >As usual there is no charge or fee, but it's always appreciated > > if > > you bring desserts, snacks, sodas, routers, switches, and laptops. Make > > sure all the equipment is well-marked so that we can send it home with > the > > person who brought it. (Do not mark the potato chips please) > > > >Yours Truly - Bruce Evry > > > >DIRECTIONS TO THE HOUSE > > > > 1607 Thomas Road, > > Fort Washington, MD 20744 > > > > >From Maryland take I-95 to exit 3a in MD, > > >From Virginia take Exit 2 in MD > > > > To the Indian Head Highway South. > > > > Go about 3 miles, turn Left on Old Fort Road. > > > > Go exactly 2 miles on Old Fort Road, > > Turn Right on Thomas Road. > > We are 1607 Thomas Rd, > > almost all the way down the street on the left. > > > > Look for the pumpkin in the tree & > > a long gravel driveway with no House visible from street! > > > > If lost, our phone # is 301-292-5231, call us! > > Please E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], thanks. > > **Please read:http://www.groupstudy.com/list/posting.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13775&t=13775 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written Class [7:13755]
Ai... Me too, I also have a very nice message board system, that we could use, and would be willing to host the site as well. If it is needed. - Original Message - From: fgh To: Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 8:54 AM Subject: CCIE Written Class [7:13755] > Dennis, > I would definately be interested in a CCIE written prep. Thanks. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13762&t=13755 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: permit ip any any [7:13686]
Im not sure what you mean by shutting down the ports, but dont forget the implicit deny that is not seen... denying all can you access the web or mail services etc... on that machine Is it applied to the correct interface.. Is S1 closer to the destination, or source. - Original Message - From: "John Brandis" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: permit ip any any [7:13686] > Hi ya, > > another ACL question > > I have a pretty simple ACL at the moment > > ip access list 110 > > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 25 > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 80 > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 25 > permit tcp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 53 > permit udp any host 203.111.xxx.215 eq 53 > > > I put this on the the s1 int (run a stub network) in. However, the > second I apply this it actually shuts these ports down, like the > opposite of what I thought was to happen. I changed the direction of the > ACL but it did not effect the end result. > Do I have to use the permit ip any any now, would that not go against > the use of permitting only certain ports... > > Thanks for your help... > > John > Sydney Australia Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13693&t=13686 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLAN routing [7:13465]
Cisco recommends that a subnet to VLAN relationship exist, but you are correct, it is not necessary, nor is it in practice... If this was the case, then we would not need expensive switches in addition to routers to "subnet our network... we would save some money, and simply buy a router, maybe add some access lists to it, and voila... A Vlan is an administrative boundry. The purpose is to reduce traffic on segments, both collision and broadcast, and to provide some security. "most companies who implement this do so to restrict access via departments.. So I would not teach it as a subnet, but just as it sounds... a Virtual LAN.. appearing to be an independant lan, but actually is part of an existing Lan... Not to hard to understand... - Original Message - From: "Peter Van Oene" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 9:06 PM Subject: Re: VLAN routing [7:13465] > I personally feel that the concept of VLANs, simple as it is, is extremely > misunderstood by most people in the industry and for that reason, I strive > to present it accurately. Consider these common questions: > > Do I need a router between my VLANs? > Do I need an IP address on my VLANs? > Can I route between VLAN 1 and VLAN 2 with just a switch? > Can I have multiple subnets on the same VLAN? > > I've heard these types of questions many times and all of them would be > reduced if people stopped thinking about VLANs in a layer three context. If > one could prevail upon students the concepts of collision and broadcast > domains and the role routers play in bounding and interconnecting them, the > concept of VLANs would be a very logical next step. Telling people that > VLANs are subnets simply confuses the matter and in reality is anything but > the truth. Certainly a one to one mapping of VLANs to IP subnets would be > ideal, but is not always the case nor is a requirement. > > In IP training, I do see the value of having people think about VLANs > containing single IP subnets, but I still feel you must make sure people > understand the exclusivity of the two concepts. IP is still pretty low on > the chart of most popular protocols in use on end stations last I checked :) > > Pete > > > > *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** > > On 7/24/2001 at 5:47 PM Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: > > >At 01:03 PM 7/24/01, Peter Van Oene wrote: > >>I beg to differ slightly on the concept of VLANS. A VLAN, as I'm sure you > >>know, is a broadcast domain and makes no assumption of nor has any > >>dependance upon layer three protocols. > > > >I agree in theory. But in practice a VLAN is an IP subnet (on IP networks) > >and it helps to think of it this way when designing and troubleshooting. I > >get this from Dan Farkas, CCIE and CCSI, author of switching papers at > >Certificaton Zone. http://www.certificationzone.com. (No, this is not > >another ad for that great service. ;-) But Dan says that he encourages his > >students to use the terms broadcast domain, subnet, and VLAN > >interchangeably. It helps them understand traffic flow, etc. I think it > >might help the poster > > > >Priscilla Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13690&t=13465 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna challenge question [7:13565]
Yes, I agree But why the bit about Classful. It seemed whoever wrote the question wanted it to be an issue about the "Classful" idea. Normally, I would fully agree, but if this was a Cisco test question, especially since the way they word some questions, how would you answer... I agree with both points!!! But again take a look at the term classful. When do we see it... Now lets break down the question... Using Classful assumptions, what is the directed broadcast address for 172.18.2.0 with the mask of 255.255.254.0? Now clearly, it says... Using classful assumptions At first glance it appears to be a simple subnetting question where we would try to find the network and broadcast address. So in that case we would come up with... 172.18.2.0 as the network ID and 172.18.3.255 as the broadcast... But thats too easy... if we were sitting at a 100.00 test, we would have to rethink... Now, again if we were sitting at a CCNA test, we would see 2 correct answers for either way we went. Cisco isnt like that... SO I personally would be inclined to think its a test to see if we know the difference between classless ans classful routing. Again, only if this was an actual test question!!! If this was something someone asked me off the top of my head, I would agree, but it is a challenge question - Original Message - From: "Leigh Anne Chisholm" To: Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 7:10 PM Subject: RE: ccna challenge question [7:13565] > Classful addressing doesn't mean that routers do not look at the subnet > mask. Au contraire! Routers ALWAYS are concerned with subnet mask > information! > > Classful addressing just means that a router that receives a routing update > for a network for which it does not have a directly connected interface will > assume the standard classful subnet mask. In the case of a router that does > have a directly connected interface that is using a subnet mask that is > borrowing bits from the host portion of the mask, it applies that mask to > the advertised network information. Variable subnet masking (subnet masks > of different lengths - /25, /26, /27 used in conjunction with the same > network) is not supported. > > > -- Leigh Anne > > At 05:48 PM 7/24/01, Guy Russell wrote: > >Actually I disagree... > > > >Routers using Classful addresses, do not look at the subnet mask, nor do > >they transmit the subnet mask...Since the term classful was used, we would > >obviously be talking about the routing protocol, so a broadcast would be > >based only on the first octet to decide. > > > >Now a machine is not dependent on classful, it understands its own subnet > >mask, and then the answer would be that... But the term Classful negates > >that theory of it being a computer or other host... > > > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: Priscilla Oppenheimer > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 5:28 PM > >Subject: Re: ccna challenge question [7:13565] > > > > > > > At 04:28 PM 7/24/01, Ed Moss wrote: > > > >The key in the question is the word "classful". > > > > > > Classful doesn't mean it has to end on an 8-bit boundary. > > > > > > >This is a Class B address > > > >with a 16 bit classful mask. > > > > > > It's not 16-bit. It says the mask is 255.255.254.0. That's 23 bits in > the > > > prefix (network) part. > > > > > > The answer is B. Put it in binary to understand it. > > > > > > Priscilla > > > > > > >I would have to say the correct answer would > > > >be 'C' 172.18.255.255. > > > >Ed > > > > > > > > > Using classful assumptions, what is the directed broadcast address > for > > > > > 172.18.2.0 with the mask 255.255.254.0? > > > > > a) 172.18.2.255 > > > > > b) 172.18.3.255 > > > > > c) 172.18.255.255 > > > > > d) 172.18.0.0 > > > > > > > > > Answer > > > > > b) > > > > > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > > > http://www.priscilla.com > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13688&t=13565 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2621 Router and Vlans [7:13590]
OK< this is great!!!.. I set off to do some trunking excercises, and am I right on this, I need an enterprise version of the 2620 series to do this??? geez... Any input on this?? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=13590&t=13590 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: what's wrong with CCIE today? [7:13151]
Well, This Cisco guy knows how to configure, trouble shoot, install, and just about anything on an NT or 2000 box... As well as a Novell Box v3-1x -4.x. As far as Unix, well, not much expertise there... I can install various versions of Linux, but my demands of other areas have been far too great to specialize in everything... If it were my company, and I needed someone to work on my NT servers, I would hire an MCSE, or Novell Servers, a CNE... if I need a Cisco guy, thats what I would hire... I agree that skills should be spread around, but you need to specialize... Not be a jack of all trades... master of none... But instead a master of one, and some knowledge of a few others... A CCIE is a bit too expensive to be fooling around with unix Box configs... But knowledge of different systems wont hurt, but I dont see it as beeing mandatory... Now for the first CCIES... I doubt they have had any pressing need over the past few years to learn or certify in Operating Systems... In fact the first ones, have been held on to by Cisco, and are probobly the ones who came up with things like EIGRP etc... Doubt the company they work for has asked them to modify client systems... - Original Message - From: "Sean Young" To: Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 9:12 PM Subject: Re: what's wrong with CCIE today? [7:13151] > Well, a ccie doesn't know how to fix the NT server; however, he/she does > know how change the IP address of the NT server or how to reboot the box > right? I would expect that CCIE to be able to do the same thing with a > Unix box. He/she doesn't have to manage the Unix server, just know that > basic troubleshooting stuffs. To my knowledge, Linux and Solaris x86 are > free so those basic Unix skills can be learned very quickly. > > >From: "B.J. Wilson" >Reply-To: "B.J. Wilson" >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: Re: what's wrong with CCIE today? [7:13151] >Date: Fri, 20 Jul > 2001 19:38:56 -0400 > >You're attributing a fault in "these guys" to a > certification which doesn't >test on UNIX skills. In other words, they're > CCIEs - they know more than >you or I do about routing and switching on > Cisco routers (presumably). But >the CCIE is the *beginning* of an > overall understanding of how networks >work - it's not the end-all-be-all > certification which automatically >elevates someone to godlike status, as > much as you might want them to be >networking gods. > >This is actually > one thing I'm worried about, should I ever achieve the CCIE > >certification: I don't want some future employer to say "Oh, you're a > CCIE, >great - come over here and fix this NT server," only to be > disappointed to >learn that I know nothing about NT! > >The bottom line > is: don't criticize a CCIE because they don't know how to >use or manage > a UNIX server. That's not what they've been trained to do, >it's not what > they're certified to do, and if you're smart, you won't hire >someone to > do UNIX stuff without making them prove that they *can* do it. >In other > words, quit your bellyaching. ;-) > >BJ > > >- Original Message - > >From: "Sean Young" >To: >Sent: Friday, July 20, 2001 6:14 PM >Subject: > what's wrong with CCIE today? [7:13151] > > > > What's wrong with CCIEs > today? I know that I am making a general > > assumptions; however,this is > the second time that it has happend to the > > company that I work for. > We have several tacacs servers that use to > > authenticate users. These > tacacs servers are running on a combination of > > Linux and Solaris > platforms. While I was away at the Networker > > Conference, one of our > tacacs servers (solaris) die due to hardware > > failure and the > amazingly the tacacs process on the Linux die. Because > > of this, > everyone has to login to the routers and switches via local > > account. > We hire these CCIEs to maintain the network while I am away for > > a few > weeks. None of these CCIEs have any background with tacacs servers > > > running on Unix platforms. As to our problems, the simple to do is just > > > to restart the tacacs process byfirst: "killall tac_plus" and second > > > "/usr/sbin/tac_plus -C /etc/tacacs/tac_plus.cfg" but these CCIEs guys > > > have absolutely no clues. Furthermore, they don't even know how to use > > > editing in Unix (i.e vi or emacs) and ended up screwing up my tacacs > > > configuration files. We have a few employees that need tacacs account > > > but these CCIEs guys have no clues how to addnew users to a > configuration > > file which if anyone has done tacacs on the unix > platform know that you > > just modify the configuration file > tac_plus.conf and restart tacacs > > process. These CCIE guys say that > they come from a windows environment > > so they don't have too much with > Unix platforms. I also notice that a > > lot of CCIEs these days lack the > Unix skills that are required for the > > Service Providers environment. > Most don't even know how to tunnel > > X-application through Secure
