Re: Help Pix 501 [7:64278]

2003-03-05 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Well,   if you wanted to bypass some of the secuirty that the PIX provides
your network, you could permit a telnet session between the internet and an
inside device on which you have shell (or EXEC) access. and then Telnet to
the pix from there.

For Example


You---Internet--PIX--Router--Inside Network

1. Telnet from You to Router
PIX Command- access-list outside_access_in permit tcp any any eq
telnet
PIX Command- static (inside,outside) tcp interface telnet  telnet
netmask 255.255.255.255 0 0
2. Log into your router as normal
3. Telnet from the router to the PIX.

As the router is connected to the inside interface, this will work.  But
please if you are going to do this consider using SSH instead of telnet at
the very least between your station and the Router.


Jarett




Juan Blanco  wrote in message
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 Team,
 I want to be able to telnet to my internal network(terminal server) via
the
 Pix 501, I have a connectivity via my cable provider, I have only one IP
 address. Before using the pix I have a router and I used to telnet to it
 from the Internet then connect to my terminal server, now I can't do it
 because there is no telnet capabilities from the Pix 501, Remember I have
 only one IPAny ideas how to do thisI looked in the Cisco Web
and
 the examples that I was able to find they assume that I have more than 1
IP
 which is no my case.At the present time I have not problem connecting
to
 the Pix from the Internet

 I really appreciate your help.

 Thanks,

 Juan




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Re: Veterans Benefits [7:64425]

2003-03-05 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Yes they can.  The problem you will have is finding a school that offers
both CCIE courses and accepts VA monies.   Many schools will not accept VA
money because of the restrictions and benchmarks that are required by that
agency.  I would suggest looking into New Horizons, or Global Knowledge.
Either of those may beable to help you.


Full Disclosure: I am employed by a copmany that provides IT Training.  We
do not accept monies from the VA.  I have no connection to either New
Horizons, nor Global Knowledge, and cannot speak to the quality of the
services they provide.

Jarett



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 Can Veterans receive assistance for CCIE lab training programs?  I hope
you
 guys have the answer.

 Best regards,

 Randy




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Re: PIX Licensing [7:62233]

2003-02-05 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Thanks!

Jarett

Sam Sneed  wrote in message
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 A failover PIX will reload every 24 hours until primary is back up.
 J.D. Chaiken  wrote in message
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  Hi,
 
  Maybe this is a naive question, but if the primary PIX goes down and
fails
  over to the failover PIX  doesn't that make it a standalone unit?
  What makes the Failover a failover?  did Cisco completly diable the
 console
  port so the only way to configure it is with write standby?
 
  Jarett
 
 
  Claudio Spescha  wrote in message
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   Hi
  
   In a Pix 515 with restricted license you can have a max of 3
interfaces,
   with a PIX 515 unrestricted license up to 6 interfaces
  
   For failover you always need an unrestricted license.
   You can not run a PIX with failover license as standalone box. A PIX
 with
   failover license is only a quarter of the price of a standalone PIX.
  
   With show version you can see what type of license you have.




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Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]

2003-02-04 Thread J.D. Chaiken
As an employee of one of those training centers, I would like to warn anyone
considering one of them to beware of schools that list salaries in their
advertisments.  The last I checked Institutions that are accredited by the
US Department of Education are not permitted to make promises with regard to
future salary.  They are not even allowed to allude to it.  So if you are
thinking about enrolling in a school which advertises That if you take our
xxx course, you can earn $  you should be suspect.  Also beware of
schools that offer Placement guarntees, as it is impossible to guarantee
that you will get a job unless the school has an internship program which
they consider a placement.


J



Craig Columbus  wrote in message
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 For those who came into the IT industry during the mid to late 1990s,
these
 last few years have been eye opening.
 Let's face it...if you could spell MCSE in 1997, you could easily land a
 job earning $70k or more per year.  This amazing earning power was an
 anomaly that burst with the dotcom bubble.  Historically, jobs that paid
 significantly more than average (engineering, medicine, law, etc.)
required
 a great deal of study and knowledge in the chosen field.  When it got to
 the point that just about anyone with a heartbeat could pass certain
 certification tests by rote memorization of braindumps, two things
happened:
 1) Certified people became a commodity and supply exceeded demand.  As
 anyone who took even an intro economics course can tell you, excess supply
 leads to falling prices.  In this case, the price (salary) required to
 obtain the commodity (certified persons) took a nose dive.
 2) Companies realized that certifications were no predictor of ability or
 performance.  Rather, they are at best a baseline indicator that the
person
 has been exposed to certain ideas and concepts.

 Today, we're dealing with a slow economy and an excess of qualified IT
 labor.  Those who get jobs in today's market are those with the better
 qualifications (experience, education, and certifications), those who are
 willing to work for a salary greatly reduced from what they could expect
to
 earn even two years ago, and those who are lucky.  The only places touting
 the ability of new CCNAs to earn $60k per year are those training centers
 that base their very existence on luring people to very expensive classes
 with the illusory promise of graduating with a high-paying job in hand.

 The bottom line is that there's no substitution for education and hard
work
 when trying to get a job in today's IT world.  Are certifications still
 important?  Yes.  If for no other reason that many companies use them as a
 basic screening tool to decide whose resume gets read and whose gets
 passed.  Are certifications enough to guarantee a good job?  Absolutely
 not.  Many people don't like to hear this, but the time is approaching
when
 IT workers are going to be held to the same standards as other career
 fields.  You're going to need an education along with the certification if
 you're going to get your foot in the door in the future.

 Finally, you want to know how to earn a six figure salary in IT.  The way
 you do this is to love your work.  You're dealing with a highly dynamic
 field where today's hot skill can be tomorrow's ticket to the unemployment
 line (ask the COBOL programmers).  This means that the learning NEVER
 stops.  If you're not studying the latest technology every day, you're
 going to find yourself useless very quickly.  The work can be frustrating
 and the hours can be very long. Have you ever noticed how the IT guys are
 often the first in and the last to leave?  And when the CEO's car is at
the
 golf course on Saturday, the IT guy's car is at the office working on an
 upgrade?  If you don't love technology, and the challenges that come with
 it, you're going to have a very hard time staying in the field long enough
 to reach the six figure mark.  On the other hand, if you love technology,
 and you love your work, you'll find that over the years, your skills and
 knowledge will increase, and the salary will come.



 At 04:39 AM 2/2/2003 +, you wrote:
 Hello, I'm recently taking a ccna course in new york. What I want to know
is
 that I've read in salary reports which state that ccna salary's start at
60k
 but in message boards such as this one, I'm finding out that a ccna
 certification alone will get you nothing. Can someone please elaborate on
 this and if possible tell me which combination of it certifications  are
 necessary for the 6- figure salary range. Thank you.




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Re: PIX Licensing [7:62233]

2003-01-31 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Hi,

Maybe this is a naive question, but if the primary PIX goes down and fails
over to the failover PIX  doesn't that make it a standalone unit?
What makes the Failover a failover?  did Cisco completly diable the console
port so the only way to configure it is with write standby?

Jarett


Claudio Spescha  wrote in message
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 Hi

 In a Pix 515 with restricted license you can have a max of 3 interfaces,
 with a PIX 515 unrestricted license up to 6 interfaces

 For failover you always need an unrestricted license.
 You can not run a PIX with failover license as standalone box. A PIX with
 failover license is only a quarter of the price of a standalone PIX.

 With show version you can see what type of license you have.




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Re: Question? [7:61716]

2003-01-24 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I have 2 thoughts on this.

The first is that on my test rack; where I'm reverse telnetting into the
console ports;  If I power cycle certain models of router my telnet session
is dropped.  (MC3810, and 3620 that I'm aware of.)  I can only assume that
this is teh same thing that happening to the modem.

The second, also on my home rack, but I've used these in production
environments, are X-10 PLC appliance modules (also available by many other
manufacturers) .  which can Physically power cycle devices remotely.  I've
found these type devices to be a life saver for remote offices, or
co-located servers where you need to power cycle a server and no one is
available to push  a button for you.  The X-10 Boxes are reasonably
reliable, and I haven't had too many problems with them over the years.  But
there are better more expensive devices available for critical applications.


Jarett

Alan Cowan  wrote in message
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 It is possible to do a password recovery by a modem connection to the
 console port. The same conditions apply as when you perform this
 procedure locally at the router. When you perform a router password
 recovery, you have to physically power cycle the router... The only way
 to do this if you do not already have the enable password is to have
 someone physically at the router. The reload command only works when
 you have entered enable mode on the router.

 The answer is that if you do not have the router passwords for the
 router and want to perform password recovery, someone needs to power
 cycle the router, though the person performing the IOS password recovery
 procedure can be remote via a modem through the console port.

 -Original Message-
 From: Charles D Hammonds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]

 I have not been able to perfrom password recovery via a modem connected
 directly to console. When the router reloads, you get disconnected and
 have to re-dial which by that time is too late to break. In my
 experience, I have had to dial up to a 2511 and connect to console of
 the problem router that way...

 Charles

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Michael Williams
 Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 2:24 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: Question? [7:61716]


 Uh... if he could get into enable mode to issue a 'reload' command, he
 could just change the password and there wouldn't be any need to do a
 password recovery?!?!?

 Mike W.




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OT: Re:Hey Chuck, tax question on certs [7:61778]

2003-01-24 Thread J.D. Chaiken
From the IRS Website:
(http://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/page/0,,id%3D105559,00.html -- watch for wrap)
Generally, you cannot deduct education and training expenses for yourself,
your spouse (if married) or your dependent as a business expense unless the
education or training:

a.. Maintains or improves a skill required in a trade or business you are
currently engaged in,
a.. Meets the express requirements of your employer, or
a.. Meets the requirements of law or regulations which are conditions of
continuing your employment.

There are 2 caveats that I should point out.

1.  If you were reimbursed for the certifcation  you cannot deduct it.
Unless you were repaid in a subsequent tax year than when you spent the
money.  Then you would be to deduct from the first year, and then pay for it
in the second year.

2.   If you are getting certified to obtain a raise or to get another job,
the expenses are not deductable.

Hope this helps
Jarett

Scott  wrote in message
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 Chuck,

 I remember sometime last year that you mentioned a way to deduct
 certification expenses from your taxes.  I was wondering if you could
 enlighten the masses on how this works and what is deductible?  Can we
 deduct all travel expenses and cost of exams?  Any loopholes to look out
 for?

 Would usually do this offline, but since it affects everybody here I
thought
 it would be a constructive discussion for all.

 Thanks,

 Scott
 CCIE #9340




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Re: MCNS Exam [7:61477]

2003-01-21 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I thought that the last day to test for this was 2/28/03.  Last day to
register was 1/17/03.  So if e didnt register yet, then he needs to take
640-100.  If he did register, I found the Cisco Press book Managing Cisco
Network Security to be more than sufficient.  In fact I think this was the
easiest of all the tests that I've taken.



Jarett


Joseph R. Taylor  wrote in message
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 Hi Ehsan,
I tried to reply to your post, but the Database wouldn't let me. That
 exam is retired. It has been replaced by 640-100 MCNS. See

http://cisco.com/en/US/learning/le3/le2/le37/le54/learning_certification_typ
e_home.html.
 JoeT




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Re: Online rack rental for PIX / CSS1-recommendation [7:61271]

2003-01-17 Thread J.D. Chaiken
There is a PIX available on my rack free of charge at http://www.mymucus.com
It is an older PIX 1 Running 5.1(5)  But you can you use it for most of
the course.  I'm working on adding a 501 to the rack.

Hope this helps
Jarett


Greg Macaulay  wrote in message
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 Hi all --

 Does anyone have a recommendation for online lab rental for the PIX and
VPN
 courses for the CSS1.  Today is the last day to register for the old exams
 and I'm considering making the effort to take the exams.

 Thanks in advance.

 Greg Macaulay
 Oldest Human Being preparing for the CCIE Lab
 Lifetime AARP member
 Retired Attorney/Law Professor




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Re: Diff. b/w ^701$ 701$ _701$ _701_ [7:61219]

2003-01-16 Thread J.D. Chaiken
My understanding was that 701$ differs from _701$  in that 701$ will also
match 5701 10701, etc  whereas _701$ will *only* match AS 701.  Please
correct me if I'm mistaken.


Thanks
Jarett

Xueyan Liu  wrote in message
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 Hi,

 The following cisco webpage explains different regular expressions.

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/products/sw/iosswrel/ps1831/products_command_refe
rence_chapter09186a00800ca655.html

 From what I worked in the isp world,
 ^701$ matches routes with AS number 701 only in the AS-PATH
 701$ matches routes end with 701, such as 1234 701, 234 345 701, etc
 _701$ matches routes end with 701, I would say it's same as 701$
 _701_ matches routes that have 701 anywhere in the AS-PATH

 Hope this helps.

 Xueyan




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Re: DES license on PIX free? [7:61201]

2003-01-16 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Actually, you dont need the contract number.  I bought a PIX 1 from
Ebay,  called cisco and they were happy to give me the code.

You do need a valid serial number though.  The automated webpage that hands
out the DES keys works for most models so you dont even need to call them.
The only time you need to call is if the S/N is so old that they didn't
bother programming the website to handle it.


Jarett



 wrote in message
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 You can request one for free as long as you have Contract # and Key, I
just
 got one last week for a Cisco Classic Firewall


 Mark W. Odette II  wrote in message
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  Yes, it's free.  If you order your PIX with 56Des installed, you're good
  to go, IIRC.
 
  -Mark
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Sam Sneed [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:41 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: DES license on PIX free? [7:61201]
 
  I read in PIX book all PIX's come with the 56 bit DES license free. Can
  anyone verfiy this before I spend money? I'm looking at a 501 or 506E.
  Thanks




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Re: virtual labs [7:60700]

2003-01-09 Thread J.D. Chaiken
You can register on my website (http://www.mymucus.com)  for free rack
access.  There are currently, 7 Routers, a Switch, and a PIX.  Should be
more than enough for the CCNA.


Jarett

reddyred  wrote in message
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 Has anyone found any cheap, USEFUL virtual labs for the CCNP track. I'm
 currently an unemployed CCNA and don't have $1,000 bucks for online labs
nor
 equipment




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Re: CCIE Vs. BS or MS dergree [7:59481]

2002-12-20 Thread J.D. Chaiken
If that were the real reading list for a BS degree, I would *LOVE* it.  My
problem is that they make you read all the fluffy stuff that you never
wanted to read in the first place, and didnt go to college for, but they
make you read anyway.

And further, lets say you were an english major, do you really think that
Calculus I would help you there?

Jarett

Charlie Wehner  wrote in message
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 What's more difficult?

 a) Memorizing configuration scenerios and commands on a Cisco router

 b) Understanding Calculus, Differential Equations, Numerical Analysis,
 Chemistry, Physics and Electrical Engineering well enough to create a
 meaningful experiment.

 One of my friends is working on his masters in Physics right now.  What
he's
 working on makes the CCIE look like a walk through the park.

 Seriously, what if the recommended reading list for the CCIE exam looked
 like this:

 Physics I and II
 Calculus I,II,III
 Differential Equations
 Mechanics
 Circuit Analysis I and II
 Linear Systems
 Thermodynamics
 Quantum Mechanics
 Optics




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Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking future? [7:59467]

2002-12-18 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I would have to disagree with you on some of your points.  More often
than not predictions turn out to be wrong.  Take Wall street for a bad
example.  There's no doubt in my mind that major changes will occur in the
IT industry.  Of the dozens of new technologies that become available each
year, some of them will most certainly mature.  Most of them will fail, and
if you could tell me exactly which ones would succeed then there's no point
in working at all.  Just invest in the successful ones, rake in the money,
and do IT work for free because you love it.

I agree with you on some points though.  In the US, I doubt there's
going to be a buildout boom anytime soon, and RS skills may not be as
profitable now as they were just a few years ago.  But by no means do I
think that the skills are not valuable.  For the next couple of years I
believe that in order to prosper you'll need to develop other skills (as
with every industry, but especially with IT) .  The skillset that Doctors
and Lawyers possessed 20 years ago is all but obsolete now; Which is why
they are required to continue their education with continuing education
courses.

Remember that most of the world is still underdeveloped.  Take China for
instance.  if just 1% china went out and bought a computer  and hoped to
connect to the internet,   those RS skills would be heavily in demand,
throw in all the developing former Iron Curtain nations, and the continents
of Africa and much of South America, and you have plenty of RS job
openings.  I have full faith in the power of capitalism,  I'm certain that
eventually the undeveloped countries will develop, and they are going to
need qualified, experienced people to help them out.

Security is hot this year, and next year it could be something else.
Working in the IT industry means that you will need to rebuild you entire
skillset every few years.  I believe that Cisco realizes that, which is why
recertification is so important.  It won't surprise me at all if the CCIE
tracks appear to converge a bit more in the next 3 to 6 years.  Gone are the
days when you started your career and retired with the same skillsets, and I
wouldn't want it any other way.


Jarett


nrf  wrote in message
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  A few points:
  When I was fresh in the IT industry (over 20 years ago) the old-timers
  who had been working maybe four years already would tell me that there
  was no future in programming, after all they said, who uses a chauffeur
  now that cars are so easy to drive?
  Cars need very little maintenance now, there are still plenty of
  mechanics because there are more cars.
  Phone companies still employ a lot of telephone engineers, large
  corporates often have on-site telephone staff.  There are more phone
  companies now.  Voice is a commodity.
  Here in London during the 80's property boom, electricians and plumbers
  on the large contracts were being paid a lot more than any network
  engineer I heard of at the time.

 I would just add that many times (actually, more often than not,
predictions
 actually turn out to be correct).  For example, decades ago, people
 predicted a decline in the number of jobs in farming.  And indeed the
number
 of jobs in farming declined substantially.  People also predicted a huge
 decline in the number of jobs in old-school manufacturing  - steel,
mining,
 etc.  And indeed that came to pass.  And even for those jobs that didn't
 decline, there was significant change in what they did.  Mechanics can't
 just know how to fix carburetors, now they have to understand
 fuel-injection.

 IT has always been an industry of change.  What was hot at one point of
time
 may not be hot at another.  IBM mainframe skill was in big demand back in
 the 70's, and it has been on a slow decline ever since.  COBOL was also
huge
 back then, and enjoyed a brief resurgence due to y2k, but is now
declining.
 I believe R/S skill will fade into the background because quite simply not
 as many organizations are building out new networks anymore, nor do they
 really need to.  The networks are built with most likely only incremental
 buildouts in the near-future, and so now the question is what are you
going
 to do with the network.  That is what is going to get you jobs.  For those
 of you who are still waiting for another huge network buildout boom, well,
 sorry to tell you, but that train has left the station.



  rgds
  Marc




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Re: Off Topic but interesting - RS networking [7:59390]

2002-12-18 Thread J.D. Chaiken
This reminds me of a quote I heard once The only people who can afford to
hire a plumber, are electricians.  Maybe we should unionize like them.
The international brotherhood of it workers?

Jarett

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  IMHO, comparing COBOL and mainframes to networking as a valuable,
 marketable
  skill set doesn't follow.  COBOL was replaced by VB, C++, ASP and other
  languages.  Mainframes were replaced by things like Windows, UNIX and
  Linux.  I don't know of something that will replace networking.  I'm not
  saying it's impossible, but the comparison doesn't seem right.  Cisco
 could
  get replaced, but how is networking going to be replaced?  Even if
  everything goes wireless, it's still all networked, no?

 Networking will be 'replaced' in the sense that it will fade into the
 background.  Eventually, networking will be just as reliable as, say,
 electric power in your building.  It will be just another utility.  But
when
 that happens, you really don't need engineers very much.  You just plug
 something into a wall socket and it works.  OK, if you wanna rewire a
 building or something, yeah you gotta call an electrician.  But how many
 times does that happen?


 
  Several people have said R/S isn't such a valuable skill set anymore
 because
  people aren't building networks anymore.  Maybe that's true, but it
 reminds
  me of what someone said when the machine gun was invented.  He said it
was
  so powerful and destructive that it would bring an end to war.  also,
 didn't
  bill gates say one time that no one would ever need a hard drive bigger
 than
  16meg, or something like that?

 I don't follow.  If people aren't building networks anymore (and they are
 not for the total number of networks is actually decreasing now, mostly
due
 to bankrupt providers getting liquidated), then that necessarily means
less
 demand for network people.  And even if the number of networks remained
the
 same, that still implies less demand compared to a few years ago when
 networks were being built out.  Let's face it.  You need more people and
 more expertise to build a network than to maintain it.   That's not to say
 that you don't need any expertise to maintain a network, because you
 obviously do, but you need less of it.

 And again, I would point to the fact that the many, dare I say the
majority
 of predictions, actually turn true.   Would you tell your kid today to
 pursue a career in, say, steel?  I didn't think so.  But, hey, you could
use
 the same arguments to say that nobody can predict the future with
certainty,
 therefore steel might be a great career, etc. etc.  And indeed it might be
a
 great career.  But, really now, what are the odds?

 
  It seems like every time I pick up a tech magazine it's talking about ip
  telephony, internet connected toasters, high speed web enabled cell
 phones,
  etc.  yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what someone is going to say- the
  infrastructure is already in place to connect your toaster to the
  internet.  But won't more and more internet connected devices
necessitate
  more people who know how to connect those things and make them work
 together
  quickly, reliably and smoothly?

 Not necessarily - not if everything is truly plug+play and reliable.  Ease
 of use and reliability implies less need for expertise.  Let's be
perfectly
 honest.  The fact that IP networks are still somewhat difficult to
configure
 and also somewhat unreliable is actually kind of a good thing, because it
 means that companies need to keep network guys around.  While we may say
 that we want a super-reliable and easy to use network, the fact is, we
don't
 really want that.

 For example, consider this.  The latest IT boom implied a massive increase
 in the use of electricity.  But did that imply a giant boom for
 electricians?  Hardly.  The reason is simple.  Electricity is, for the
most
 part, plug and play, and reliable.  You take all your new-fangled systems,
 plug them into the wall, and they work.  OK, true, there was some increase
 in demand for electricians, especially for datacenters and whatnot, but
the
 increase was mild.


 Now, don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not trying to bag on electricians.
I
 have several friends who are electricians, and I respect their profession
 and their skill.  I'm just using them as an example of the way I think
 things are eventually going to go in networking.  There will still be
jobs,
 but not as many as there are today, and the jobs that will be out there
will
 be for higher-end people, with limited for the novices.  Just like the way
 electricians are today.



 
  I think at this point in the evolution of info systems, the internet and
  networking it's premature to say anything has reached it's peak and is
  mature.  Think of all the homes out there not connected to the internet.
  Think of all the companies out there 

Re: Off Topic - other CCIE study materials [7:59230]

2002-12-16 Thread J.D. Chaiken
You can also try my site.  http://www.mymucus.com  I'm offering no-cost rack
access.  (7 Routers, 1 Cat 2926).  I just put it up, its a work in progress,
however the important parts work.

Jarett


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 just ran into this one while cruising a particular auction site.

 www.lamernetworks.com

 CCIE rack rental at very reasonable prices. seem to have a single 3550
along
 with a 3900 switch.

 also appear to be auctioning CCIE level lab scenarios on you-know-where.

 FYI

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Re: CCDA case study in Exam [7:59068]

2002-12-12 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I agree.  I hated this test.

I wouldn't have minded it as much if they organized the questions better.
e.g.

Case Study 1
Question About Case Study 1
Question About Case Study 1
Question About Case Study 1
Case Study 2
Question About Case Study 2
Question About Case Study 2
Question About Case Study 2


But on my test it was all over the place.  E.g.

Case Study 1 - Question About Case Study 1
Case Study 2-  Question About Case Study 2
Case Study 1 - Question About Case Study 1
Case Study 3 - Question About Case Study 3
Case Study 2-  Question About Case Study 2
Case Study 5-  Question About Case Study 5
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Re: Darth Reid R1 Access-list [7:58644]

2002-12-06 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Follup Question:

Barring intentional obfusication, why would anyone actually use  that
wildcard mask in an access list instead of a longer more readable
alternative?

Jarett


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 write it out in binary and study it until you understand why it is or is
not
 correct.

 what - you expect someone else to do the work for you? how are you going
to
 learn?


 Ted Marinich  wrote in message
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  Correct me if I'm wrong, but I can't see why this is the right answer.
 Does
  anyone have a different answer to question VII -1???
 
  It seems as though too many other networks are able to pass through
using
  this answer - can't be right.
 
  I grabed the answer from cisco's web via the URL found in the
Practical
  Studies book.
 
  Ted
 
  www.Boson.com Wildcard mask checker
 
  IP Address:129.24.192.0
  Wildcard mask: 102.129.7.1
 
  First Octet Match(es)
   129
   131
   133
   135
   161
   163
   165
   167
   193
   195
   197
   199
   225
   227
   229
   231
 
  Second Octet Match(es)
   24- 25
   152- 153
 
  Third Octet Match(es)
   192- 199
 
  Fourth Octet Match(es)
   0- 1




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Re: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]

2002-12-02 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Don't you mean a 4500 w/ a 4 Port Serial works great?  The 4000 doesn't
support the NP-4T  only the NP-2T.

Jarett

Larry Letterman  wrote in message
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 a 4000 with a 4 port serial card works great...

 Symon Thurlow wrote:

 What about a 4000/4500 with 2x NP4T? They are reasonably priced.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Elijah Savage III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: 27 November 2002 18:25
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Home lab setup FRAME SWITCH [7:58204]
 
 
 Here is my lab setup there is one thing I think I am in desperate need
 of and that is a frame switch I do not need the 3550 we are deploying
 them at work and have access to them and also 5500's with the
 lightstream equipment. After getting this lab together of course I have
 spent some bucks as you can see below, but for the LABS like from NLI
 and some of the others will a 2521 serve as a frame switch to do these
 labs or do a I really need to fork over the bucks for a 2522, you just
 don't see ags+ on ebay much anymore. I would like to just buy a 2521 if
 it is sufficient and spend the rest of my allotted funds on purchasing
 the labs. Or is there someone out there wanting to sell a ags+ or some
 other router as a frame switch.
 
 3 2501
 1 2503 isdn
 1 2611
 1 2621
 1 2509
 1 1605 with wic 1T
 1 804 isdn
 1900 enterprise
 2924 enterprise Just got this one yesterday
 Pix501
 Suse8.1 LinuxPC
 Redhat8.0PC
 
 Elijah
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Re: passed cit. that's a wrap on ccnp [7:57741]

2002-11-20 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I Agree with you.   CIT was probably the easiest for me as well.   Routing
was definately the hardest.  For other studying for the CCNP i reccommend
taking Routing as your 3rd test.  I found myself referring back to my
routing book often while studying for CIT as I had forgotten some of the
fram formats and such.

Jarett


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 teh hardest?  really?  hm... I found it the easiest and routing the
 hardest.  Anybody else?




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Re: Question for CCDP [7:57667]

2002-11-19 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Both CCDA and CID are requirements regardless of CCNP status.

Jarett

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 Hi all,

 Does anyone know if both CCDA  CID #640-025 exams are required in order
to
 get CCDP if you possess a CCNP? Or just CID #640-025 exam is all you need
 for CCDP?

 Thanks.




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Re: Question for CCDP [7:57667]

2002-11-19 Thread J.D. Chaiken
Well, Priscilla's Book covers  the material.  I had problems reading it
though.  I've gotten so used to reading poorly written technical books, that
whenever I find a passage that is really readable  I assume it's fluff and
skip past it. Since most of her book is readable and well written, I found
myself reading thorough it a couple of times.


Seriously though Top-Down Network design is really helpful.  These were the
most difficult tests that I've taken.

Jarett



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 What is the best book to buy for the CCDP test?
 Thanks.

 On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 15:54:42 GMT J.D. Chaiken  wrote:

  Both CCDA and CID are requirements regardless
  of CCNP status.
 
  Jarett
 
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   Hi all,
  
   Does anyone know if both CCDA  CID #640-025
  exams are required in order
  to
   get CCDP if you possess a CCNP? Or just CID
  #640-025 exam is all you need
   for CCDP?
  
   Thanks.
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Re: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]

2002-11-14 Thread J.D. Chaiken
I believe that all the VoIP images require 64MB.  Though VoFR, VoHDLC, and
VoATM are supported w/ 32MB


HulaJoe  wrote in message
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 Hello All,

 I just purchased a 3810 to practice some Voice labs. I was hoping someone
 could answer a quick question for me.

 The 3810 I'm getting has 32 MB of RAM - Is this enough to run the 3810 as
a
 VoIP GW ? Can someone give me some insight in regards to setting up the
3810
 to support VoIP ?

 Thanks in advance!

 Joe

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 Subject: Multiple CCIE qualification exams then labs? [7:57019]


 Also posted at www.@!#$.com (apologies to readers of both)
 

 Folks

 I have a question that hopefully can lead to me receiving some good
 advice.

 Back in June (Just before I was laid off) I took and passed the CCIE
 security written exam. Since then I have been unsuccessfully seeking
 employment.

 Due in part to the cost, I have chosen not to book the lab yet and
 probably wont until I am back in work. Which leads me (finally :-) to my
 question.

 Would it be worthwhile to study for and take the routing and switching
 qualification exam and/or perhaps even a communications and services
 exam too (maybe the voice beta when it is released).

 Does anyone have any experience of how much commonality there is between
 the exam materials?

 Also, following on from that, how about the labs. Assuming I find myself
 back in employment in the not too distant future and can manage to
 afford it, would it be worth practicing for two or more CCIE labs at the
 same time and then booking the labs back to back (or at least close
 together)?

 I have a reasonable home lab that includes 3x2500, 3x4500, a 2600, a
 3600, 2xMC3810, a 7500, 2xPix501 and cat 2820, etherswitch 2200 and 3920
 (yeah,I purchased the last 2 a couple of months before the lab equipment
 changes were announced). So with the addition of a 3550 EMI (or 2 :- eek
 $$$) and some remote lab time I think I should be able to prepare for
 the lab exam(s) for any of the above.

 The real question is should I go ahead and go for multiple CCIE certs at
 once or is this just a really foolish idea.

 Thanks

 Peter Walker
 CISSP, CSS1, CIPTSS, CCNP, CCIP, CCDP.




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Re: Decent modem for dial-up to Cisco routers [7:56202]

2002-10-24 Thread J.D. Chaiken
This doesn't really answer your question.  But in the past, I've used USR
modems connected to a remote reboot device (like an X10 or similar).  When
the modem stopped responding (ie. didnt answer the phone) the rebooter would
pick up and powercycle the device.

Power 
  |
Phone--Rebooter-Modem-Computer
  |   |
  -
Power


Hope this helps
Jarett


Sean C  wrote in message
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 Hello to all,

 Sorry for the off-topic but can anyone suggest a particular brand of modem
 that my company should sell to customers for dial-in access to Cisco
 routers.  We've used USRobotics (various Couriers, Sportsters and 5686s),
 Zooms, Bocas, and Conexants.  The USRobtics seems to need to be reset a
lot
 (hard to do when no one is at the site), the Zooms tend to put 1720s in
 rommon mode when plugged in the console port, Bocas are old and loss their
 configs easily.  Anyway, if anyone can write We use this modem and it's
 rock-solid each and every time than it would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,
 Sean




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Re: FXO FXS terminology - comments? [7:54331]

2002-10-16 Thread J.D. Chaiken

An FXS port connects to a phone at a WorkStation, whereas the FXO connects
to the Phone Companies (or your PBX) Central Office.


[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
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 On Feb 17, 12:53pm, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 } Haakon Claassen (hclaasse) wrote:
 } 
 }  FXS  is a station (end device)
 }
 } FXS connects an end device, such as a telephone. It isn't an end device
 } itself.

  An FXS port is a port which connects to a Station device.

 }  FXO is a trunk line

  An FXO port is a port which connects to an Office device

 }-- End of excerpt from Priscilla Oppenheimer




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