Re: CID beta [7:206]
Good response... but I personally would grovel a little more :-)
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> I meant to say "lady", but you know, I'm only 25, so when I speak to
> a woman that sounds younger than me I slip up and use "girl". She
> couldn't have been older than 22, plus she had a very pleasant
> voice... It's not like if I'm a 40 year old engineer defaming
> women...
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> I hope I did not inadvertantly insult any of the wonderful people who
> post here and supplement my knowledge. . .
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> ...especially you, your book's "required reading" for anyone that
> wants to know the questions one has to ponder in designing an
> enterprise network...
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> F.G.J. Ruiz-Alaniz
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> On 11 Apr 2001 16:41:33 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Priscilla
> Oppenheimer") wrote:
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> >At 10:35 AM 4/11/01, F.G.J. Ruiz-Alaniz wrote:
> >>I called them right around 8 EST time and got an ambiguous response
> >>from them. I've learned from experience that beta exams appear in
> >>Prometric's systems as "failed" until they get the records uploaded
> >>from the company who the test is for. The girl I spoke to stated
> >
> >Do you really think she was a girl? I doubt that they break the
child-labor
> >laws, despite other problems they may have.
> >
> >>such, mumbling to herself, "well it still shows up as failed, wait
> >>until the score report gets sent to you or it appears on their
> >>tracking system". 2 out of the 3 first beta exams I ever did caused
> >>me grief this way until I was mailed the score report that said I
> >>passed.
> >>
> >>I stand a fair chance of failing CID since I got blown away by the new
> >>objectives.
> >>
> >>One should call and see what's up, if one of you guys get a pass from
> >>Prometric North America, we know Prometric at least has the scores,
> >>though galton doesn't. 1-800-204-EXAM.
> >>
> >>
> >>On 11 Apr 2001 07:07:02 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Fomes Iain")
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> >> >Did someone say they had their results ?
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Re: CID beta
What I do not get is that I took the CATM on Saturday and it is already posted to the site. That is awesome turnaround and great service. The Beta has been months and nada a word. I am just curious as to when? ""Steven Crawford"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > No results yet; perhaps everyone passed; yeah right! > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Report - unsuccesful
Chuck, Thank You. Over the past year + you have been a mentor (and Joe) to many of us. As you had success, many of us were inspired. I know I was always a few steps behind ya... with the NA then NP then DA then DP... now I just got my ATM specialization so on to the written. But thru all this you have inspired. Now , you inspire not with success but by being positive when it would be easy to get negative and push blame every where else. Stay in there... there are many of us lurkers (I do post on occasion) wishing the best for you! Lou ""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 000d01c0bfcc$08c90800$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:000d01c0bfcc$08c90800$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey, everyone, how you all been? > > The short story is I did not make it to day 2. The rest of this is a bit > long winded, and easily skipped. > > First of all, I was quite pleased to find upon reading through my Day 1 > scenario that there was nothing I couldn't do, given time. There are plenty > of practice labs from several different sources which cover all the core > topics, so there were no surprises for me. > > Secondly, I was quite pleased when during my review of Day 1 results with > the proctor, he told me they were going to change the written instruction > on a particular section because of the solution I used. I'm actually quite > surprised it hasn't been done before. I was grudgingly given points, > although I was told my solution was definitely not what they had in mind. > > However, in the end, it was a few simple omissions that cost me the points > I would have needed to squeak into Day 2. > > Only one of the six of us who began together was invited to the second day. > > Things I learned: > > 1) having the core topics down cold is CRUCIAL. No kidding! > > 2) Time is crucial, but not, I believe, in the way I have seen it discussed > in many places. I highly doubt that typing 80 words a minute versus my 20 > WPM was the difference. Not when I spent as much time as I did > contemplating. You can't think it. You have to know it. > > By 2:00 p.m. I knew I didn't have a prayer of hitting all the requirements. > At that point I started counting points, putting myself in a defensive mode. > By quitting time, if I got full credit for everything I thought I deserved, > I would have had 31 points. As I found out in my review, I missed a few > simple things, and blew myself out of the water. This leads back to the > internalization of the core topics. You can't be thinking about how to > configure anything. You have to just bang them out, the same way you bang > out shaving or washing your hands or eating your lunch. > > 3) Methodology is crucial. You have to have a good methodology that is > internalized and is habitual. You can't be thinking "what's next?" I don't > believe it matters what your methodology is, so long as you are consistent > and quick. My own methodology failed me because I was constantly adjusting, > rather than banging it out. > > 4) I spent a good two hours last night in my hotel room debriefing myself. I > have six pages of notes regarding my day one experience. This will form the > basis of my study plan for my second attempt. I know that it is highly > unlikely I will have a scenario like the one I just worked on next time > through. But I will focus on methodology and speed. > > 5) Good rapport with the proctor is helpful. I was able to get the > information I needed by carefully wording my questions and making sure that > my desired result was understood. The proctor is under a bit of stress > himself, with so many folks vying for his attention. He may think you are > asking something you are not. I made sure that if I was not getting an > answer that made sense that I clarified my request, so that the answer was > one that helped me understand. I will say also that the test I saw was > reasonably clear. The questions I had tended to be the result of outputs > from various show and debug commands, to clarify what the expectation was. > > A few other comments: > > I was far too aggressive in scheduling my lab date. Should have pushed it > out 60 days. Don't be in a hurry. Those without a lot of hands on need to > spend several months of several hours a day practicing. No two ways about > it. > > There has been a lot of discussion about the patch panels used in the lab. > All I can say is that the panels are clearly labeled. IMHO you have nothing > to worry about. That said, I did have to revisit the rack twice, in order to > make a cabling change. This was purely the result of a chicken or egg > situation, and not due to any difficulty with the rack itself. People with > home labs know well the issue with hooking up routers back to back. > > I sat next to a guy this morning ( a day 1 candidate ) who was getting up > every few minutes and going to the back of the rack to move cables around. > Completely unnecessary and driving the proctor nuts. There is no need for > any candidate to
RE: CID beta
I think Cisco... lost this test...
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Well, the Foundation 2 beta exam took 13 weeks to appear on galton and
it took at least another 3 weeks to get my score report from Sylvan,
which they mailed to my office address instead of my home address...
I have never experienced a longer wait, and I've done CompTIA (8
weeks), Novell (one time 2 weeks, but usually 4-6) , & Microsoft betas
(6-8 weeks) ...
On 3 Mar 2001 11:05:01 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("GNOME") wrote:
>I think have to wait till 15 Mar..exactly 12 weeks!!!
>
>does anyone passed on past experience how long will a beta exam result be
>out?
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ATM/LANE
I have an ATM cloud with LS1010s LS1015s and an 8540. On my lane blade I have the LES/BUSs and LECs configured A long time ago... I was having problems with ATM director as part of CWSI seeing the ATM cloud correctly.. Part of the FIX was stating VTP ENABLED on the Lane Blades... I recently was told that was a NO-NO... however no reason given... Can any shed any light on this? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Extremely Strange Routing Problem! (update)
John, By default EIGRP does auto-summarization. This cause a NETWORK statement to be all inclusive. And any route it learns about to classfull it (regardless of a no classfull statement). Even if you place the network statement in each classless masking you still summarize. Therefore, the EIGRP will place any routes it does not know about as learned via NULL0. Try using a no auto summary and review your routers passive statements. > ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.2.70.75 50 > ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.1.111.60 100 > ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Null0 (don't ask why this is here, it just is > ) This is VERY CLEARLY a summarization. EIGRP Summarizes by DEFAULT without the no auto summary. Please let me know if this helps. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Neiberger Sent: Thursday, February 01, 2001 5:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Extremely Strange Routing Problem! (update) More info. The router does not appear to realize that the "directly" connected next-hop address is unreachable. RouterA#sho ip route 10.2.7.75 Routing entry for 10.0.0.0/8 Known via "static", distance 1, metric 0 (connected) Redistributing via eigrp 1, rip Advertised by eigrp 1 rip Routing Descriptor Blocks: * directly connected, via Null0 Route metric is 0, traffic share count is 1 So, even though the interface directly connected to the next-hop address is down, it thinks it is still reachable via a static routing pointing to Null0, a connected interface. Does this seem irrational to anyone but me?? If the next hop is down but there is a valid next-hop in the eigrp topology table, I want it to take that route, not the default route! Dang it all! :-) I still don't understand this behavior at all, but perhaps this will provide a clue to some of you. Going insane, John > Ok, this is completely baking my noodle. If someone can solve this, I will > fly to your location and kiss you on the forehead. > > Here is the layout: RouterA has two frame relay PVCs, point to point, that > go to router B. EIGRP is running on one link but not the other. (RIP is > running on routerA but is not currently being used on any links.) We have > static routes for the traffic we want to take the second PVC. At router A I > have the following: > > ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.2.70.75 50 > ip route 10.2.50.70 255.255.255.255 10.1.111.60 100 > ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 Null0 (don't ask why this is here, it just is > ) > > 10.2.50.70 is the loopback address of router B, and 10.2.70.75 is the IP > address at Router B's second PVC. 10.1.111.60 is the secondary dial backup > route. So far, so good. Now for the part that is completely freakin' me > out. > > The entire circuit at A that has the second PVC to B goes down, and > subsequently all PVCs on that circuit go down. The main circuit and its > associated PVCs are still up. Remember, eigrp is running on this link. > So... > > 10.2.70.75 is no longer available, that PVC is down. That static route is > removed from the routing table. There should now be an eigrp-learned route > with an AD of 90 for 10.2.50.70 on the main PVC. This is NOT happening! I > do a show ip route 10.2.50.70 and I get the following: > > RouterA#show ip route 10.2.50.70 > Routing entry for 10.0.0.0/8 >Known via "static", distance 1, metric 0 (connected) >Redistributing via eigrp 1, rip >Advertised by eigrp 1 > rip >Routing Descriptor Blocks: >* directly connected, via Null0 >Route metric is 0, traffic share count is 1 > > The secondary static route is also not in use because in this scenario, the > remote branch circuit is not completely down, and dial backup has not > occured. All of their other PVCs are up. > > Now, take a look at this: > > RouterA#sho ip eigrp topo 10.2.50.0 255.255.255.0 > IP-EIGRP topology entry for 10.2.50.0/24 >State is Passive, Query origin flag is 1, 1 Successor(s), FD is 2297856 >Routing Descriptor Blocks: >10.2.10.75 (Serial1/1.27), from 10.2.10.75, Send flag is 0x0 >Composite metric is (2297856/128256), Route is Internal >Vector metric: > Minimum bandwidth is 1544 Kbit > Total delay is 25000 microseconds > Reliability is 255/255 > Load is 12/255 > Minimum MTU is 1500 > Hop count is 1 > > There is a valid route in the topology table, but it is not being entered > into the routing table. Why not? Why is it choosing the less specific > 10.0.0.0/8 route to Null0? Ok, now it gets even stranger... > > Remember the static routes, one with an AD of 50 and the other with an AD of > 100? Once I removed them manually by typing no ip route 10.2.50.70 etc., > the valid route in the eigrp topology table was entered into the routing > table. What difference does this make? Those static
RE: how useful is certificationzone ?
It is an AWESOME site. Well written zonemasters , labs and a 100 question test each month. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mongol Blizzard Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: how useful is certificationzone ? hello all how many ccie wriiten aspirants have joined certificationzone.com? what is your opinion(with no marketing spices) about the note below? if i have a plan of taking the written in 3 months and start to study from scratch assuming all i have learnt in ccnp is forgottenthen at what level do i need to join certificationzone.com? all sincere answers appreciated. regards _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
I totally agree that a resume should be clean and free of errors and project your best image. I was trying to point out (and I did a poor job of it) that A CCNA IMHO has a place on the resume (if it fits) because the resume only gets you the interview. I know that when I wrote my resume most recently, I kept having to remind myself that all I wanted the resume to do was get me in the door... open up discussions on what I can do, and bypass the HR folks to get to the technical department. I was only focusing in on that single point of CCNP and CCNA or just CCNP discussion. Please forget that CLASSIC comment I made. Lou -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 11:17 AM To: Lou Nelson; Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I fail to see how your reply relates to my post, and I would agree with the generic position that the resume will not garner the offer - however, I've gotten offers on resume alone for contracts, and I've rejected a number of otherwise fine canidates because their resumes were so bad. (I was hiring.) These problems included grammar, spelling, style and content. The resume sets a tone - a good one raises the expectations and elevates the canidate. A poor one, if interviewed, places him/her in a bad position from the start. --- Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Robert... > I feel there are some CLASSIC mistakes here. The > resume will NEVER... I > repeat NEVER get you a job ... Only an > interview... and the HR > will go over to put the full package together > SO lets get this... The > interview and what end of the salary you fall on > The CCNA just might > get the resume from the HR to techies,... who will > say... hey we got a CCNP > here... bottom line it can NOT hurt you to put the > CCNA under the CCNP. > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Robert Padjen > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:38 PM > To: Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; > [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on > resumes) > > > I think that having two version of your resume is > more > common these days - fancy formatting for print and > ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three > pages, > but the first page is summary and the last page is > education, certifications and associations. I think > that the length answer is three or under - if you've > got more then its either too dated or you've done > too > much and aren't parsing out the important stuff. > > When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of > gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the > amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to > the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA > after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in > fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the > folks > instead of pulling you to the top. > > One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each > of the last five years should have at least four > bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text. > Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a > little bit for introduction - I personally hate the > "I > want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every > font > and don't print double sided. Leave room for > notes!!! > (Sorry for being a mother hen!) > > For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it > seems > like there are two camps - those that put it in for > HR > and keyword search and those that don't want to work > for a company that is too stupid to understand the > relationship. (The position is too junior if they're > looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement, > althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of > putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two > lines shorter and he is thankful. ;) > > All the best. > > > --- Pradeep Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page > > resume did not make it for a tech support position > > and a CCNA with a one page resume made it. > > > > "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-) > > > > What is more important than the size of the resume > > is your ability to stand up and vouch for the > things > > that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who > claimed > > being trained from Sniffer University and did not > > know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when
RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes)
Robert... I feel there are some CLASSIC mistakes here. The resume will NEVER... I repeat NEVER get you a job ... Only an interview... and the HR will go over to put the full package together SO lets get this... The interview and what end of the salary you fall on The CCNA just might get the resume from the HR to techies,... who will say... hey we got a CCNP here... bottom line it can NOT hurt you to put the CCNA under the CCNP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2001 11:38 PM To: Pradeep Kumar; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on resumes) I think that having two version of your resume is more common these days - fancy formatting for print and ASCII for eMail, etc. I PDF mine, and its three pages, but the first page is summary and the last page is education, certifications and associations. I think that the length answer is three or under - if you've got more then its either too dated or you've done too much and aren't parsing out the important stuff. When I review for hire I am amazed at the number of gramatical and spelling errors, in addition to the amount of silly stuff. Do I care that you belong to the ski club? No. Do I enjoy seeing the letters CCNA after your name like MD? Not when I'm hiring - in fact, it puts you in place with the rest of the folks instead of pulling you to the top. One page these days, my opinion, is too sparse. Each of the last five years should have at least four bullets - that's good for a page in well zized text. Another page for certs and education, and perhaps a little bit for introduction - I personally hate the "I want a job that..." Also, please DON'T use every font and don't print double sided. Leave room for notes!!! (Sorry for being a mother hen!) For the certs on the resume - CCNA, CCNP..., it seems like there are two camps - those that put it in for HR and keyword search and those that don't want to work for a company that is too stupid to understand the relationship. (The position is too junior if they're looking for NA...) That was the winning arguement, althought for votes it was about 60-40 in favor of putting them in. Thanks. My friend's resume is two lines shorter and he is thankful. ;) All the best. --- Pradeep Kumar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I know of a case where a CCIE(W) with a 14 page > resume did not make it for a tech support position > and a CCNA with a one page resume made it. > > "Size" does not matter,performance does. ;-) > > What is more important than the size of the resume > is your ability to stand up and vouch for the things > that you claim.I tele interviewed a guy who claimed > being trained from Sniffer University and did not > know the basic sequence of packets exchanged when a > TCP IP connection is made between a Server and a > client.We hired him coz he was sincere, not becoz he > was a techie.Sincere guys who have a potential for > being trained are sometimes more productive than a > self-centered techies. > > So, just be yourself( irrespective of length) > > -PG > > > > -Original Message- > From:Brant Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent:Fri, 26 Jan 2001 16:07:25 -0500 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on > resumes) > > > I use 2 versions, one online, and the other I try to > keep at 3 pages, though > as time moves on, will probably go to 4 or 5... > > Brant I. Stevens > Internetwork Solutions Engineer > Thrupoint, Inc. > 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor > New York, NY. 10017 > 646-562-6540 > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Tariq Bin Azad > Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:41 PM > To: 'Andy' > Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > Subject: RE: Resume Length (was: Certifications on > resumes) > > > Size of my resume is 3 Pages. 3 is not my lucky > no... > > Tariq > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 26 January, 2001 7:09 AM > To: Bradley J. Wilson > Cc: cisco > Subject: Re: Resume Length (was: Certifications on > resumes) > > > On Fri, 26 Jan 2001, Bradley J. Wilson wrote: > > > You bring up an interesting topic. I try to keep > mine under *four* pages! > > ;-) Why four? I dunno, just seemed like a good > number, I guess. I had > one > > guy ask me, way back when I was starting out: > "Your resume's only *one > > page*??" Guess it kinda had an effect on me. ;-) > > > > Anyone else want to chime in? Can we get a bell > curve going on what the > > average resume length is? > > How about "I don't care because I never print it > anyway". Its always in > electronic form and its more important to make sure > all my experience and > skills are documented then conform to some twisted > misconception of >
RE: Certifications on resumes
I listed mine this way.. · CCNP - Cisco Certified Network Professional, Jun 2000 · CCDA - Cisco Certified Design Associate, Sept 1999 · CCNA - Cisco Certified Network Associate, May 1999 I liked the way it showed progress -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Padjen Sent: Friday, January 26, 2001 2:27 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Certifications on resumes I was asked an interesting question this morning by a friend who just passed their CCNP. Basically they wanted to know if they should now remove the CCNA from their resume or list both CCNA and CCNP. I took the position that (as I do) the CCNP implies the CCNA, and therefore one would only list their 'highest' within a track. A number of co-workers said no, list it all. Please chime in with your position - unicast if your just sending a vote and multicast if you are raising a discussion. Sorry to those who feel this is an improper use of the board. Thanks. = Robert Padjen __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: access-list debugs
Chuck.. HELP!!! I believe in this list I was reading that when an you do an debug IP Packet... in the later IOS releases it automatically changes for a fast switching to a processor switching... No I am looking through the achrives... and cant find the messages.. so 1. Do you remember the thread? 2. Is it true? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Friday, January 19, 2001 11:29 AM To: Cisco Mail List Subject: FW: access-list debugs Interesting. If I have a named access-list, it would appear I cannot do a debug Debug ip packet ? (1-199) access-list (1300-2699) access list extended range detail (cr) Chuck http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Cat5500 question
Jason, If you have a CAT 5500 and they suggest a new SUP... they are referring to the first board the sup engine... IT is hardware... but in a 5500 you want a sup 3 not a sup 1... The 5500 has 3 back plane's that are 1.2 gig each... only the sup 3 will aggregate those into a combined 3.6 gig back plane (Market Math).The sup 3 contains a phoenix chip that does this aggregation. Even with the market math there... the sup 3 is far superior for your box and gives you it true best speed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jason Tran Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 12:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Cat5500 question Hi Group, just have a quick question. I have a cat 5500 currently has a Supervisor Engine I. If someone tells me I need Supervisor Engine II, is he talking about software or hardware? How am I going about changing it to Supervisor Engine II? Thanks. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Master Degree
Lauren, I am working both the CCIE progression and the Master's at the same time with an On-Line University... UOPHX University Of Phoenix So far it seems a decent program. I am 20% done the Masters! Lou Nelson MSCIS Student "University of Phoenix" CCNP, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lauren Child Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2001 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Master Degree Lauren Child wrote: > > You might want to take a look at stanford uni.'s online MSEE in > telecommunications. Im planning on doing a masters after the CCIE as > well and that looks quite good if I can get the company to pay for it as > I could carry on working while doing it. > Forgot the URL - http://scpd.stanford.edu/ce/telecom/onlinedegree.html _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: can SPAN port transmit?
I do use intra-vlan routing in that a within the vlan is a gateway for that VLAN of course an arp (that I see) for the gateway occurs... then when traffic is sent to the vlans gateway to route to another vlan or anywhere... I do NOT see that As you said I would have to go to where the mapping occurs (a bunch of 7507s with AIPs)... I would find the HSRP active router... no problems... Still this does not give me what I was looking for... In Top Down Design (shameless Plug), a lot of discussion goes to knowing thyself and the traffic. What I wanted to see was the amount of traffic, type of traffic, broadcast versus standard on a given VLAN. First to baseline the VLAN, then to identify within my network where I may need additional improvements. We have some 16000 host and seem rock solid... We have way more bandwidth then needed but expect a huge amount of growth.. not in host but in applications... two of my 120+ work group managers constantly insist on infrastructure related problems... yet LMS and HP Open view show nothing. Each time they raise a stink, me or one of my technicians find not only nothing wrong, but often see no symptoms. Still these WGMs get managements ear. In all we have proven each and every time these guys are off their rockers but it did raise my desire to span the entire VLAN to Sniffer Pro and get some baselines of the VLANs traffic. I wanted to do this from my office simply by creating the LEC spanning the vlan ... and wham... In the end all I catch mostly is some CDP, HSRP, and other type broadcast Now spanning the port works exactly and accomplished everything I have wanted it to where I use it. I have been able to get profiles of our outbound and inbound data to our network. I have been able to show growth and get additional assets with empirical data... Anyway thanks Nigel... I keep looking for a way to capture ALL the data in a given VLAN... this kinda does make ya wish for a HUB mode.. not -Original Message- From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 5:25 AM To: Lou Nelson; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Priscilla Oppenheimer Cc: Bryant Andrews Subject: Re: can SPAN port transmit? See Inline. - Original Message - From: Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Nigel Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Bryant Andrews <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 3:13 AM Subject: RE: can SPAN port transmit? > hmmm. > I fully understand the Lane ATM Vlan Elan relationships. > What is happening is that I only see the broadcast on the specific Vlan. I > do not see the direct Vlan to Vlan traffic nor the Vlan to Vlan Gateway > address... NT: This won't happen unless you implement some type of inter-vlan routing in which case you're no longer monitoring at layer 2 which is where the span ports on the switched devices are suppose to monitor/capture. Of course to monitor different vlans you would have to redefine you SPAN port values if you were looking to still mointor on Layer 2 . However, To monitor the VLAN to VLAN or VLANto VLAn gateway traffic you would have to do this where your VLAN maps to layer 3, which would mean at either the RSM(where you would probably have your HSRP gateways defined) or at router with a AIP card that provides the layer 3 requirememt. I assumed that the trunked ports were not passing the traffic > out the lane blades because the Cam Dynamics recognized that the destination > MAC was not down that port (trunked port... therefore it dropped the frame > and my spanned port on the other side of the cloud never got the frame... > and yes everything else is in place... a lec is configured on my Spanned > port switch's lane blade... > > I clearly do not know what I am missing... I really feel I have covered > everything > > > -Original Message- > From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 1:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Priscilla > Oppenheimer; Lou Nelson > Cc: Bryant Andrews > Subject: Re: can SPAN port transmit? > > > Lou, > The answer is yes. I must be more specific in stating that since > LANE extends layer 2 characteristics through the ATM cloud. ELANs are > simply a way of extending a VLAN(lan segment/broadcast domain). > So plugging a sniffer onto a span port that is configured to a specific VLAN > which is mapped to a possible specific ELAN you should be able to capture > all/any traffic within the E-LAN(Extended-VLAN). > > What you're seeing would tend to suggest a incorrectly SPAN port. > > HTH > > Nigel > > - Original Message - > From: Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > T
RE: ip route question
Cory, I read thru the responses and they are all good but I would like to add... Who is to say that an Ethernet interface is not a point to point. Using media converters changing a FE interface from tx to fiber and then back again I have many WAN FE point to point interfaces. In a few cases I prefer the interface because it prevent routing loops when links fail. I run HSRP on three gateway 7507s with gig uplinks to a 7513. The 3 7507 are logically connected via ATM interfaces that also house the HSRP. By using the interface to point out the gig links versus the opposite end ip interface on the gig link I prevent on 7507 believing that sending packets back to the originating router is a preferred EIGRP route to get to the 7513. So the Eth interface does not have to be a broadcast environment... it can be a point to point! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stull, Cory Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 11:31 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: ip route question I know I'm showing my ignorance here but I'm tired of trying to find the answer on CCO. Must be looking in the wrong places. I just saw a Boson question asking about ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ethernet0 I thought you could only point static routes like that out of point to point interfaces? For example: ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 int ser0 Cory _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: can SPAN port transmit?
hmmm. I fully understand the Lane ATM Vlan Elan relationships. What is happening is that I only see the broadcast on the specific Vlan. I do not see the direct Vlan to Vlan traffic nor the Vlan to Vlan Gateway address... I assumed that the trunked ports were not passing the traffic out the lane blades because the Cam Dynamics recognized that the destination MAC was not down that port (trunked port... therefore it dropped the frame and my spanned port on the other side of the cloud never got the frame... and yes everything else is in place... a lec is configured on my Spanned port switch's lane blade... I clearly do not know what I am missing... I really feel I have covered everything -Original Message- From: Nigel Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 1:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Priscilla Oppenheimer; Lou Nelson Cc: Bryant Andrews Subject: Re: can SPAN port transmit? Lou, The answer is yes. I must be more specific in stating that since LANE extends layer 2 characteristics through the ATM cloud. ELANs are simply a way of extending a VLAN(lan segment/broadcast domain). So plugging a sniffer onto a span port that is configured to a specific VLAN which is mapped to a possible specific ELAN you should be able to capture all/any traffic within the E-LAN(Extended-VLAN). What you're seeing would tend to suggest a incorrectly SPAN port. HTH Nigel - Original Message ----- From: Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 30, 2000 12:02 AM Subject: RE: can SPAN port transmit? > The answer is no. I have tried before and I now think of spanning a port as > a 6th state of the STP... Listen only to the other port .. to TX and > receive to the sniffer you will need another NIC and Port > > Now a question back to the group... Across an ATM cloud... using LANE... and > ELANS Is there a way to see ALL Vlan traffic (Inc. from switches across > the cloud) when you span a VLAN on a switch... Thus far I can ONLY see the > broadcast traffic! > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Priscilla Oppenheimer > Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 4:42 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: can SPAN port transmit? > > > The reason I ask is that my client is developing a network management box > that will connect to a SPAN port and collect traffic as well as > occasionally send SNMP queries and other UDP packets. > > He realizes that if the user were collecting data from many ports there > would be performance issues. However, he wants to know, in the absence of > performance problems, will his device be able to send some queries? Is > sending disabled on the SPAN port? The other answers (from people who have > tried it) make me think the answer is no, sending is not disabled. > > Priscilla > > At 04:46 PM 12/29/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >Cisco employees have confirmed for me that devices connected to span ports > >are unable to act as normal hosts by design. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 12/29/2000 > >03:27:52 PM > > > >Please respond to Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) > >Subject: can SPAN port transmit? > > > > > >Hi folks, > > > >If I connect a Sniffer-like device to the SPAN port of a switch, will the > >Sniffer-like device be able to transmit data? > > > >My guess is no. From my reading on Cisco's SwitchProbe external hardware > >probes, it appears that the SwitchProbe needs an additional port to send > >data to a network management system. One port connects to a SPAN port on > >the switch and the other port connects to a normal port and is configured > >in "management mode." > > > >But, does anyone have experience with trying to send from a device > >connected to a SPAN port? > > > >Thanks > > > >Priscilla > > > > > Priscilla Oppenheimer > http://www.priscilla.com > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: can SPAN port transmit?
The answer is no. I have tried before and I now think of spanning a port as a 6th state of the STP... Listen only to the other port .. to TX and receive to the sniffer you will need another NIC and Port Now a question back to the group... Across an ATM cloud... using LANE... and ELANS Is there a way to see ALL Vlan traffic (Inc. from switches across the cloud) when you span a VLAN on a switch... Thus far I can ONLY see the broadcast traffic! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 4:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: can SPAN port transmit? The reason I ask is that my client is developing a network management box that will connect to a SPAN port and collect traffic as well as occasionally send SNMP queries and other UDP packets. He realizes that if the user were collecting data from many ports there would be performance issues. However, he wants to know, in the absence of performance problems, will his device be able to send some queries? Is sending disabled on the SPAN port? The other answers (from people who have tried it) make me think the answer is no, sending is not disabled. Priscilla At 04:46 PM 12/29/00, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Cisco employees have confirmed for me that devices connected to span ports >are unable to act as normal hosts by design. > > > > > > >Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@groupstudy.com on 12/29/2000 >03:27:52 PM > >Please respond to Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >cc:(bcc: Kevin Cullimore) >Subject: can SPAN port transmit? > > >Hi folks, > >If I connect a Sniffer-like device to the SPAN port of a switch, will the >Sniffer-like device be able to transmit data? > >My guess is no. From my reading on Cisco's SwitchProbe external hardware >probes, it appears that the SwitchProbe needs an additional port to send >data to a network management system. One port connects to a SPAN port on >the switch and the other port connects to a normal port and is configured >in "management mode." > >But, does anyone have experience with trying to send from a device >connected to a SPAN port? > >Thanks > >Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Off Topic - Thoughts on the coming year
Chuck, You and Joe Martin and a few others on this list have kept me going. Last year this time I was looking at my last full year of AF duty.. (20 Years). I will be leaving the AF in April and Job hunting. I had just also finished my BS. I had an CCNA at the time. Now I am 1/3 done my masters... Finished my CCDA ... Finished my CCNP and might have finished my CCDP... I intend on getting the written done in the next few months and finding some employment that will sponsor the CCIE training/LAB to fill in my weak spots You Joe, and the rest of the gang on this list mean a heelluva lot to me... I lurk more then I post due to time constraints... but that does not diminish how much each of you have meant to me... Recently Aaron ( a recent CCIE) wrote he got the chance to met with you after his CCIE lab Not only do I look forward to that lab next year... but I would also like to have dinner with you to personally thank you (and Joe and Howard and Jasper and Pricilla (Ms Design) and Pam and Jeff and Charles and Mark and Robert and ... just a few of the names I always look for) (do you all remember Jeff Doyle posting here before went Juniper?) Anyway... each of you have contributed to my learning and today I have 12 technicians who directly work for me and some larger number that constantly work with me that all benefit from what you have all have taught... I did cover a few of the great authors here but I must also thank Todd, Radia, Chris L., Andrew T and Mr. Stevens for their great books Here is 2001 and to getting a 1 CCIE number before 7K (R&S) and one after (Design) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Friday, December 29, 2000 1:26 AM To: Cisco Mail List Subject: Off Topic - Thoughts on the coming year This shouldn't be too long. No goal setting this year. No laying out of plans and schemes. Just a reflection on my own achievements, and what that might mean to you. I discovered Cisco certification 19 months ago, shortly after I lost my job as technology manager at a small brokerage firm. (downsized by the new owners) At that time I thought that maybe it would take me five years to get my CCIE. A year ago, when I laid out my plan for the year 2000, and posted it here, I saw that it might be possible to have at least passed the CCIE written by year end. Today, my CCIE lab is scheduled, and I believe I will have attained that goal by end of year 2001. This is amazing to me. So I just want to say, on this eve of the REAL new millenium, to all of you on this list, to all of you single moms and high school kids and career changers and overweight middle aged guys, and non native English speakers, you CAN do it! It may be a journey of a thousand miles, but it can be done, as the saying goes, one step at a time. To all of you whose names I have seen in my in-box these past months, my best wishes to you all. Wherever you are on the road - the shoreline, Delhi, Katmandu, Base Camp, or nearly at Everest's summit - you CAN do it. I look forward to seeing you on the road, on the trail, on the climb, at the top. May you achieve those things which fulfill you in this coming new year! Chuck _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Lesson to be learned here ((CCIE written)or any other test)
Geez... Either you're lying ... or you have one of the greatest attitudes ever! Keep up the great work! Hope to See ya in the Lab! Lou -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of yohanus Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lesson to be learned here ((CCIE written)or any other test) GREAT STORY!!! Let me put my 2 cents in. You did well. Remember the CCIE test is Cisco's toughest test and when passing such a test, you should reward yourself. Now you may be asking yourself, "what the ^%# do you mean." You got a fine score considering what you went through. Better luck next time! ""Charles Henson"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 92gf64$s80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:92gf64$s80$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Good afternoon all, just wanted to tell everyone a quick story that I hope > all exam takers will take heed of. I had scheduled the 350-001 R&S exam for > Friday the 22 of December (right before xmas) almost a month in advance at a > local prometric site (RTP, NC area) so that I would have plenty of time to > prepare and then (pass or fail) could take a breather during xmas and > hopefully start focusing on the lab next year. My exam was at 11:15 and I > had a 2pm flight immediately afterwards. I'm one of those folks that likes > to feel not only like he's studied and ready with the material but also > mentally prepared or focused or in the zone or whatever else you want to > call it. I got a good nights sleep the night before, slept in the next > morning and arrived at the prometric site around 9am. I figured I'd casually > go over my 800 pages of notes one last time, and slumber into the exam room > a little early if they could fit me in. Problem. Locked door. I start > knocking on the window and finally some admin chick comes up and opens the > door. She asks what I want, I explain "I have an exam at 11" to which she > replies "not today sir we're closed". CLOSED! To make a long story short the > testing center had told Sylvan Prometric they would be closed this > particular pre-xmas Friday but Prometric forgot to put it in the calendar. I > spent the next hour to hour and a half on the phone. First, Prometric > apologized and said they would gladly reschedule me for the following week. > I explained that that was not good enough as my brain would be saturated > with laced eggnog and whatever else and that the week between xmas and > newyears was just not suitable. I told them this was their mistake and they > needed to reschedule me same day at another location. After getting approval > from some manager they finally agreed to reschedule me just to tell me that > all the sites it the Raleigh, Durham area were completely booked. If this > wasn't the Friday before xmas rescheduling for a later week would be fine, > but I felt that I had spent so much time preparing that if I went on > vacation and then came back it would be the end of January before I would be > ready to take it again. I went to the prometric website and printed all the > addresses and phone numbers for all the testing centers in my area and > called one by one. I got about halfway down the list before finding someone > who said they could fit me in. The only catch was I needed to get over there > as soon as possible. I jumped in the car and raced over to the new site. > When I got there we got back on the phone with prometric and after 40 > minutes of arguing with the new customer service rep finally got the exam > downloaded. I had just enough time to throw out my bubble gum before sitting > down infront of the computer. Obviously due to the NDA I can't talk about > the exam other than to say it was tough, deserves it's reputation, and > really evaluates whether you have a clear understanding of the fundamentals > or not. Anyway, I failed. Score: 67. Am I displeased at the score? Not at > all. It was my first time taking the test and I feel I gave it a fair effort > and I got a fair result. I had bridging and dlsw down pat but was week on > some other key areas. Do I blame the mess before the exam for my failure? > Not completely. It is obvious to me that I still have some skill sharpening > to do before I consider this exam again. I do wonder, however, if I hadn't > spent the morning running around in circles and on the phone with people and > had gotten a good hour or so to go over my notes and focus on those weak > areas if I might have passed it. Once again, I don't blame Sylvan prometric > for my failure completely. I just wonder if it may have been influenced by > my lack of focus in the exam room. LESSON LEARNED. Don't make assumptions > about the communication process between Sylvan Prometric and these local > testing centers. call them up and make sure the scheduling is correct. The > CCIE written is the biggest exam I've taken to date and I was very > optimistic. It's a shame that I spent the morning scrambling to make it > happen instead
RE: link
thank you ... great paper -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sisqo Sent: Thursday, December 28, 2000 10:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: link http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?
Bridging... DSL is making a comeback in bridging... I have also had to use it in some routers for a period of time as a workaround -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of John Hardman Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 2:48 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know? Humm... interesting question. >From one point of view... What should be tested (or not tested): In over 10 years of IT work I have only ran across AppleTalk once, so drop AppleTalk (which they are doing). In the same time frame I have only ran across one IPX network that wasn't either in the process of being converted to 100BaseT or was only being used in the DC to connect to a Novell server that was a file server which had it's drives mapped to NT drives. So IPX should take a big back seat to IP. TR, well personally I like it, but again I have only seen one network with TR that wasn't planned to be changed to 100BaseT. Come to think of it, they announced the upgrade a couple of months after I left there. So TR should also be in the back seat. Bridging, humm... well in some respects it is rarely used in the networks I have seen, mostly to get to SNA servers. But then again you had better know your IRB pretty well with all of the L3 switching that companies are being sold these days. L3 switching, better know that pretty well. There are just too many companies being sold L3 that it had better take a bigger role in the lab. The R/S written and lab should take on more of the service provider element. I am not saying that the new SP track should be rolled into the RS track. But with outsourcing and the Internet with VPN, dial and the like taking a bigger and bigger role in most companies, better know your ATM, dial, VPN, BGP, etc, etc. The same can be said for security. Not having taken the lab, I can not really say as to how IPX, TR, or bridging is tested. It could be that it is tested as a primary thing and not as a secondary, e.g. "well looks like we are going to have to deal with that TR segment over rather we want to or not". The same could be said for ATM, maybe it should be a primary and not a secondary. Well there is $0.02 from one point of view, HTH. -- John Hardman CCNP MCSE+I ""Chuck Larrieu"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 002c01c0703c$c2ef8680$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:002c01c0703c$c2ef8680$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE Lab, > regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative. > > So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know? > > Anyone? > > Chuck > -- > I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as > it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will > study US! > ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG ) > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: So what SHOULD a CCIE know?
owww... Like HE ate for breakfast... I am telling -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Jim Healis Sent: Wednesday, December 27, 2000 1:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: So what SHOULD a CCIE know? I feel that a CCIE should know everything in his technology specialty (i.e. routed global networks with enterprise switching) like he ate it for breakfast. For everything else a CCIE should have a general knowledge and know exactly how and where to find more information on the subject. About the tests: I think they are good, though they could be a bit more in depth (maybe more questions on certain topics). When I took the written the first time I came out of it with a headache and a clear path of what I needed to work on. I'm glad to see that they are retiring some of the older protocols, but for those that work strictly in the IP area it can be a burden to learn things we have never touched and don't work with. -j Chuck Larrieu wrote: > We've all seen a number of comments about the CCIE written and the CCIE Lab, > regarding content. Most of those comments have been negative. > > So, what SHOULD be tested? What SHOULD a CCIE know? > > Anyone? > > Chuck > -- > I am Locutus, a CCIE Lab Proctor. Xx_Brain_dumps_xX are futile. Your life as > it has been is over ( if you hope to pass ) From this time forward, you will > study US! > ( apologies to the folks at Star Trek TNG ) > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Dial Out Utility
Some time back Cisco carried the dial out utility. It has been EOLd and is no longer available on the CCO. I still need a copy of it and the server I had it on crashed. DOES anyone have a copy they could shoot me. Lou Nelson MSCIS Student "University of Phoenix" CCNP, CCDA [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside
No I have NEVER gotten feedback... Never And I have commented on all my CCNA, DA, NP, and DP test... I have pointed out a few glaring incorrect answers/questions and a few I am pretty sure... I also asked on a few questions why ask this... is there a point to a CCxx knowing how to spell this? In the end it is not the contact I want but knowing that my comment was read and if I was right... the problem addressed. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 6:02 PM To: Kevin Wigle; Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside I failed the CID first time through, passed it second time. On both tests there was a particular question, which fell into a "security" category ( in my mind anyway ) There were 3 wrong answers and one right answer. I will go to my grave convinced that there is an error on the test, and the real question is "which of these is NOT" rather than "which of these IS" BTW - anyone EVER gotten any feedback from Cisco on comments made during the test on test questions? I didn't think so. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Kevin Wigle Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 2:51 PM To: Robert Padjen; Scott Brenner; Andre' Paree-Huff; Cisco@Groupstudy. Com Subject:Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside Congratulations, another set of initials always feels good! I also believe it is a single question. I barely passed the CID when I took it but I got the security question correct. Couldn't say what it was though many have commented on the famous security question but no one seems to remember it. I believe it might not really be security related but labeled that way. anyway - congrats! Kevin Wigle - Original Message - From: "Robert Padjen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scott Brenner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Andre' Paree-Huff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, 21 December, 2000 13:11 Subject: RE: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, details inside > Its a single question, and, I believe, it is not the > one that it would appear to be. By unofficial polling > I'd say 70+% get it 'wrong.' > > Congrats. > > > --- Scott Brenner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I took the CID on 12/15 and I received 100% on the > > Security section. I have > > been > > trying to remember what question(s) were on > > security, but I can't figure it > > out... > > > > > > Scott Brenner > > CCNP/CCDP > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Andre' Paree-Huff > > Sent: Thursday, December 21, 2000 9:10 AM > > To: Cisco@Groupstudy. Com > > Subject: Re: CID passed with 839, CCDP complete, > > details inside > > > > > > Neal, > > > > I took the CID exam last week and faild by 21 > > points. I too received a = > > ZERO on the security and have talked to at least 5 > > people that have = > > taken the cert, some passed some failed but everyone > > one of them got a = > > ZERO for security issues. I agree I wonder if this > > was a misprint. > > > > "Neal Rauhauser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in > > message > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > 100 questions, took me 32 of 120 minutes > > allowed, and I walked out > > > with an 839 and my spiffy new CCDP :-) > > > > > > The exam has the following sections and I've > > listed my scores > > > > > > 1 Intro to Internetwork Design62% > > > 2 Campus LAN design62% > > > 3 TCP/IP network design88% > > > 4 desktop protocol design80% > > > 5 WAN design > > 76% > > > 6 SNA design > > 71% > > > 7 security issues > > 0% (!)(more on > > > this below) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Andr=E9 Paree-Huff > > A+, ASE, CCDA, CCNP > > MCSE+I, NET+, I-NET+ > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > AOL AIM: pareehuff _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CID Beta
I took it on the 13th... I commented on 5 questions and remember that 3 had bad questions... One had 3 correct answers and they only wanted two... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stull, Cory Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:38 PM To: 'Patrick Murphy'; Shane Stockman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CID Beta I took it this morning. I was happy with it. I only got 1 question that was really bad but for the most part I thought it was almost too easy. It was just very very broad range of coverage from VPN, VOICE, to OSPF & EIGRP. Many topics. 184 questions to sit through is a killer too. I am pretty sure I passed it. If I didn't then I will repost with a different opinion of the exam. :) Cory -Original Message- From: Patrick Murphy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 1:14 PM To: Shane Stockman; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CID Beta I took it a few days back. I didn't study for it much. I just finished the CCIE written a month or so ago and I relied on much of the study from that, as well as the fact that I am a Network Designer all day long... It was very strange indeed but I was pleased with it, I think I may even pass it!! Cisco/Sylvan should hire a proof reader? It's pretty bad when you can't even get the title right. Patrick - Original Message - From: "Shane Stockman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 6:45 PM Subject: CID Beta > Well I wrote the CID Beta exam earlier today and damn was it crap.My exam > said Cisco Secure VPN on the top.It seemed like it was a test that was made > up of alot of different tests.I did'nt know that Voice and VPN and numerous > other non related design topics were part of the new CID.I used the Sybex > CID book and it barely was enough.I felt more like it was a nail the sucker > who thought he was going to save some money on a Beta Exam. > > Any comments from others who have taken this exam > _ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ********* Access List Enquiry **************
Tom, great answer but I think you will find that TCP 53 is used for large lookups and some tools that that do lookups. Generally as you say TCP 53 is zone... but NOT always. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tom Pruneau Sent: Sunday, January 20, 1980 9:26 PM To: GNOME; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: * Access List Enquiry ** I think it is the normal practice because historically that was the only capability which routers had (filtering on destination ports) and as the IOS became more capable people were either unsure, or reluctant to change their ways. The second example is more secure, and to take it a step further (towards tighter security) I would filter on established too (where appropriate). The gt 1023 refers to the random high numbered port that a hosts assigns for the response to any packet sent to a well known port. Another observation of your example is that you are filtering on TCP port 53. TCP port 53 is only used for zone transfers between a 2ndry and a primary DNS server. Normal lookups, the type done by the majority of hosts on the net, use UDP port 53. Tom At 10:28 PM 10/30/2000 +0800, GNOME wrote: >Hi All > >Which one of the access-list is normally use? > >Example 1 >--- >access-list 102 permit tcp any host 172.16.0.1 eq 80 >access-list 102 permit tcp any host 172.16.0.1 eq 53 > > >Example 2 >--- >access-list 102 permit tcp any gt 1023 host 172.16.0.1 eq 80 >access-list 102 permit tcp any gt 1023 host 172.16.0.1 eq 53 >(notice the gt 1023) > >I saw from most of the books that Example 1 is common. I don't know what is >the normal practice generally >Appreciate if anyone can share with me his/her comments. Thanks alot > >Regards >Orion >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > >_ >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Tom Pruneau Trainer Network Operations GENUITY 3 Van de Graff Drive Burlington Ma. 01803 24 Hr. Network Operations Center 800-436-8489 If you need to get a hold of me my hours are 7AM-3PM ET Mon-Fri --- This email is composed of 82% post consumer recycled data bits --- "Once in a while you get shown the light in the strangest of places if you look at it right" _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Please don't lie on resumes
Does this mean I have to take "Invented the Internet" off my resume' Al -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Charlemagne Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 6:10 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Please don't lie on resumes Everyone, Don't put down lies or exaggerate on your resumes. You will be uncovered. Things like, "Very Familiar with OSPF" leave you open to questions like "Explain the problems with OSPF over Frame-Relay partial mesh networks". If your very familiar, then you know the answer to that question. If you have OSPF all over your resume and can't answer that, potential employers will probably not hire you. Be honest, and your chances of getting that job become greater. Regards Kamoto __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Messenger - Talk while you surf! It's FREE. http://im.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need?
Better yet, Advertise it to alt2600 and tell them "U cant touch this... I have locked this down so smartly... and none of you are bright enough to get into it" PS..Back up all critical data before doing this and ensure you have no info on the unit that you don't mind on the front page of the New York Times Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "James Kavenaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 11:23 PM Subject: Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need? > Sure - go ahead and send it. I'll see what I can do. > > Kenny > > - Original Message - > From: "James Kavenaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 4:35 PM > Subject: Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need? > > > > Hi, > > Could you please tell me more about these security holes, back doors and > > incompatibilities you mention? Are you speaking of just the kernel or are > you > > including daemons that run on unix platforms? Maybe I could send you my ip > > and you could show me how trivial it is to cack? > > > > Thanks! > > James > > > > On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > Yea - if you want to put your enterprise on an OS full of security > holes, > > > back doors, and incompatibilities...not to mention all the moving parts > > > that can fail and the lack of modularity...Need anymore gas? > > > > > > Kenny > > > > -- > > James Kavenaugh > > Computer Geek > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 425-260-4067 > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need?
Scalable platforms, ranging from the Catalyst 6000 Series which offers 32 Gbps of switching capacity and scalable multilayer switching up to 30 Mpps, to the Catalyst 6500 Series offering scalable switching capacity up to 256 Gbps and multilayer switching up to 150 Mpps http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/pcat/ca6000.htm Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Jeff Kell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "McCormick, Corey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2000 10:54 PM Subject: Re: Switch backplace capacity - how much do you need? > > "McCormick, Corey" wrote: > > > > I have noticed that these numbers are actually not necessarily > > accurate either. > > > > The Catalyst 6509 has a backplane quoted as having 256Mb/sec, > > 128Mb/sec, 32Mb/sec and 16Mb/sec. Which is true? Sort of they all > > are, from my current information. > > Basically 16Gb/sec. There is a new blade coming for the 6500 that is a > 'crossbar switching fabric' that provides the higher bandwidth across > compatible cards, etc. > > And 10Gb may be within the calendar year. > > [According to Networkers Las Vegas talk on campus switching, if I recall > correctly; don't have my notes in front of me] > > Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Nortel/Bay ATM woes...
Scability... You can have only so many PNNI (32?) links without going into ATM routing areas... If you have singular attached ATM switches Link it IISP and conserve the PNNI Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mike Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2000 10:39 PM Subject: Re: Nortel/Bay ATM woes... > Hey Mike, > You were right on! Apparently the call was going out but > never received. So the local les/bus pair showed the remote les/bus pair as > "partially operational" Once we got the addresses right the problem was > history. There was also mention of a IISP route as well as the PNNI routes. > I did some reading and found that the IISP routes are more like UNI routes > and do no dynamic routing, whereas you PNNI routes do. My question is why > in the topology would one place a IISP route and not let PNNI do it all > dynamically? > > Please let me know if I'm totally lost I'm doing allot of reading on > the subject at the moment..trying to get a few things cleared up in my > head(web closet) > > TIA > > Nigel > > - Original Message - > From: Mike Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 3:03 PM > Subject: Re: Nortel/Bay ATM woes... > > > > Nigel, > > > > We have Nortel's ATM solution in our LAN. The "partially operational" > result is usually caused by one of two things or both. > > > > 1. Your call routes (on one side) are not set correctly. > > 2. There is an error (on one side) in the remote les/bus address. > > > > Specifically, the error means that traffic is being transmitted or > received by the remote device, but the local device can't "see" the far end. > > > > When I configure these switches, I open notepad and then cut and paste the > LES/BUS addresses into SpeedView. That's the only way I've found to not > screw up the address. > > > > ..confused yet? > > > > Mike Smith > > > > >From: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Reply-To: "Nigel Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >To: "Bryant Andrews" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"Cisco Group > Study" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Subject: Nortel/Bay ATM woes... > > >Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2000 01:54:12 +0100 > > > > > >Hi All, > > >I was wondering if anyone in the group had any ATM experience > using Bay 5000 and Centillion 1600 ATM switches. > > >I'm trying to solve a problem with the LES/BUS and remote coop pairs > within the ELANs. When running a "show les" > > >that various ELANs show LES/BUS as partially and fully Optimal. In order > to get a greater understanding of the whole picture I'm now trying to figure > out what exactly does Fully/Partially Optimal mean. Currently all devices > join the various ELANs(12) but within those twelve ELANs various LES/BUS > pairs show up as fully and partially optimal. > > > > > >Does anyone have an idea as to what I'm rambling about? > > > > > >TIA > > > > > >Nigel > > > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Integrating Avvid
Gary, In most cases you CAN get it to work... except with Nortel... They have trouble with VOIP... don't know why but it always ends with a sale call.. hey buy more of our stuff and it will work... Anyway An important point (regardless of cisco versus and lesser product (and they all in the end are lesser)) is that a multivendor network raises the total cost of Ownership by 31%... There was a great article on this some months back but that was the industry stat. The extra cost comes into play by ; Training, downtime, extra boxes for more scalability etc If anyone knows where that article is at please let me know... I lost it and want it back bad! Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Gary Alterson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cisco@Groupstudy. Com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 9:49 PM Subject: Integrating Avvid > Hopefuly this isn't as stupid as I think it might be... I should try to > learn more about voice over IP before asking this, but here goes > > Is it possible to integrate Cisco's Voice solutions with another switching > solution such as Extreme or Foundry? In other words, is it possible to run, > say, an Extreme Black Diamond in the core and distribution, with Cisco > switches at the access layer, using Cisco IP phones, Call Manager, uOne, > etc...? Does anyone know if this has a chance or working or do I have to go > all Cisco? Any ideas? > > Just Curious at this point, > Gary > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How far by self study?
a WOW... Impressive.. I mean I am impressed You should get a job though... and if you tell me you did this while working a full time job... then I quit Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Aaron Prather" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 12:09 PM Subject: Re: How far by self study? > I got the following certs all by self study: > > MCSE > MCP+I > MasterCNE > CNE5 > CCNP+Voice > CCDP > Network+ > CCIE written test (hard test) > > All together that is almost 30 tests and no official courses, only books > (and hands on.) > > Not bad for a 22 year old eh? :) > > Aaron > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam
Am I off-base... Since the SPECIALIZATIONS are available ONLY to CCIEs and CCNPs... why are the betas allowing anyone off the street to take a shot? I would not even mind opening it up to CCNAs, DAs but hold the beat to some one that has shown some initiative toward the cisco cert Just curious if I am missing the point here? Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Kevin L. Kultgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: ""Dale Cantrell"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 2:51 PM Subject: Re: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam > I've got it booked. Im design a voiceover IP WAN for a client and have done > some research into it but I don't think I'm 100% fluent in it. I've got it > scheduled for July 21. The last day possible. Gives me a little bit of > time to find material come up to par. > > Kevin L. Kultgen > MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, CNX-A, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW > IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP > Calgary, Alberta > - Original Message - > From: ""Dale Cantrell"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco > Sent: Friday, June 30, 2000 1:41 PM > Subject: CVOICE 2.0 beta exam > > > > Hi people, anyone else happen to register for this? > > Way out of my league but I'm not missing any more betas. > > Dale > > > > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How far by self study?
CCNP version 2 and CCDA... all self study///hands on Taking CID sn Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Patrick Duggan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 6:28 AM Subject: How far by self study? > Hi one and all, > I am curious to know how many people have got to CCDP/CCNP > by self study alone. the difficulty of this is a like the length of string, > given enouh time most things are possible. Realistically, without attending > training courses is it so difficult to get through these exams. I did the > course for CCNA (really good) but self studied CCDA. This i reckon took me > aboout a week of solid study but it came across as a "study friendly topic". > I am now looking at the CCDP path and the CID first, it looks really bloody > difficult! But don't all new topics? So can anybody give advice on the > reality of CCDP self study? > thanks > Pat Duggan ccna ccda mcse blah blah > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 8540
Brett, The answer is Bridge Groups... Take my GBE interfaces and bridge them to my atm interface. Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: "Lou Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Brett Frankenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "work" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, June 19, 2000 12:25 AM Subject: Re: 8540 > Brett, > That is about 50% there... > Here is the point. (most of this is fact there are exceptions but the point > is the same) > Today I have 5 Ls1015 (5500) in an OC-12 Backbone (in a circle and Meshed) > Attached to the Ls1015 are 20 Lane blades attached at OC-3 to 5509 and 5500s > From the 5509s there some 100+ switches connected ethernet or fe > 3 7507 ATM attached have ATM subinterfaces (HSRP For each Class C > separately) > Elans are mapped to the Vlans in the switches > 2 Lane blades contain the LECS (Primary and Backup) > > Okay > > I am replacing one of the LS1010s, and 7507 with an 8540 > I am replacing 1 5509 with a 6509 > I am adding another 30 6509s to new parts of the network > > I intend on 3 (3 with MSFC engines) of the 6509s to GBE up to the 8540 with > secondary links to a 5500 (LS inside) to a GBE Sup IIIG port > From those 2 new 6509s all the other 6509s will attach (the third will be > the server farm) > many of the VLANS/Class C subnet in the new areas are also in the rest of > the network > > Now the point > The GBE interface on the 8540 is a routed interface... Since The 8540 > interface will contain the primary link and the also have an ATM interface > > Suppose I have > 7507 (1) 130.40.15.2 Standby 130.40.15.1 > 7507 (2) 130.40.15.3 Standby 130.40.15.1 > 7507 (3) 130.40.15.4 Standby 130.40.15.1 > > Now the 7507 (3) is the one I am replacing > > In the 8540 > on g9/0/0 I can put 130.40.15.4 Standby 130.40.15.1 > but on the ATM interface... I have only played with this and have not > thought it all the way through > Hence, I was hoping to see a couple of configs for the 8540 to get all my > thoughts... thought out > > Since I run Cisco only I will stay with the ISL, and daaa I never even > tried to do the subinterface on the g9/0/0 > That makes perfect sense... > Today was the first day I fired up the 6509 and 8540 and I was able to do > the Lane, ATM, Eigrp, and anything on the 6509 without a hitch the only > stumbling point was that sub interface > Thanks for the starter... I would love any other conf info you could pass > along... Any caveats on the IOS versions? > > Ps I added my work E-mail > > Thanks > Lou > > -- > > Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA > > > "Brett Frankenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > In article , > > Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I am replacing a 7507, LS1010, and 5509 (w/ a lane blade) > > >with an 8540 and a 6509 > > >The 6509 will gbe uplink to the 8540 and will have a secondary link to a > > >5500 gbe port > > >The GBE interface on the 8540 is a routed interface so this presents some > > >challenges I have not worked before in that I run multiple VLAN and ELANS > > >across my network and with the replacement of the lane and putting the > HSRP > > >address on the 8540 I must ensure the 6509 vlans gateways can be reached > > >either thru the GBE routed interface or thru the 5500 lane attached back > to > > >the other 7507s I have in the network IF ANYONE HAS ANY SAMPLE 8540 > > >configs they could send my way... I would MOST appreciate. > > > > I have four 8540s in production. What are you looking for? > > > > Are you saying the 5500 and 6509 are doing layer 2 only, and you want > > the 8540 and the 7507 (via LANE) to be the default gateway for the > > devices on the 6509's VLANs? If so, then you will need the 8540 to > > have a Layer 3 interface in each of the 6509's VLANs, with some form of > > tagging (either ISL or 802.1q) on the trunk between the 6509 and the > > 8540. Something like the following: > >int gi0/0/0 > >int gi0/0/0.1 > > description VLAN 1 > > encapsulation dot1q 1 > > ip address 10.0.1.254 255.255.255.0 > >int gi0/0/0.2 > > description VLAN 2 > > encapsulation dot1q 2 > > ip address 10.0.2.254 255.255.255.0 > > The 8540 doesn't play any of Cisco's trunk negotiation games, so on the > > 6509 end, you'll need to make the trunk non-negotiable, and configure > > it to always trunk, and to use 802.1q. (Or ISL -- either will work, as > > long as you configure both ends the same). > > > > -- Brett > > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Unknown Routing Protocol
"IP only IOS" does not recognize OSPF? Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: Feliz, Edgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mohamed Heeba <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'cisco list' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 9:03 PM Subject: RE: Unknown Routing Protocol > You do not have the right IOS. There are different levels of IOS, that > support different features, the one you have is probably IP only. You need > to change to IP Plus, Enterprise, etc, > > EF > > > -Original Message- > > From: Mohamed Heeba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, June 13, 2000 12:32 AM > > To: 'cisco list' > > Subject: Unknown Routing Protocol > > > > > > > > Dear Guys > > i was trying to enable OSPF on a Cisco 1601R router > > when i got a message "unknown routing protocol" > > what the hell is in the 1601 ??? doesnt it support OSPF ??? > > any feedback please > > > > - > > Mohamed A.Heeba > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cisco Cables!!
Some time back someone posted a site that specialized in any cable you will ever need for CISCO Anyone still got the site... I need a quick turnaround on some Cisco Cables -- Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNP 2.0 objectives!! U asked for them!
Having taken and passed all CCNP Version 2 I can see these are correct.. although not very specific http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bscn.pdf http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bcmsn.pd f http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/bcran.pd f http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/pdf/cit.pdf Also I have it on good authority (rumor) that the CCNPs version 1 will have to recert prior to Jan 01 to maintain their cert Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLSM Question
Yep!!! On the summarization statement AREA areaid# RANGE address address-mask but I think the statement network ospf 23 is suppose to be ... ROUTER OSPF 23 I used the wildcard .3 to define the network AND my cut and paste of yours brought another error route it should read NETWORK address wildcard-mask AREA area# MENTAL NOTE Proof read before you send! Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 4:47 AM Subject: Re: VLSM Question > Also, since this is an area border router, I believe the proper syntax for > summarization is: > config t > network ospf 23 > area 23 range 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224 > > The "summary-address" statement goes on ASBR's only. > > I agree this is oversummarization. > Point well taken. My remaining confusing lies in the wildcard mask of > 0.0.0.3 vs 0.0.0.0 for the ospf route areas. > > > -Original Message- > From: Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: Cisco GroupStudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Saturday, June 03, 2000 12:36 PM > Subject: Re: VLSM Question > > > >Kurt, > >Let me clear... My OSPF is weak... Lotsa study/// ZERO Hands on... I > work > >with EIGRP, RIP etc... but will start some lab work soon with OSPF to get > >ready for bigger TEST! enough of the excuses as to why I > >could be wrong... so listen for the crowd to flame me if I stumbled. > > > >Not really. > >1. Your e0-s1 are the network addresses... u need to make them the host > >2. This is oversummarization. Your route of 172.16.10.0/27 is a network > of > >.0 a broadcast of .31 and includes all the host from 1-30... > >Example the .27 address (which you have not assigned) exist elsewhere in > >your route domain it is lost because of you oversummarization > > > >I suggest > > int e0 = 172.16.10.1 /30 (net .0 broad .3 host .1 & .2) > > int e1 = 172.16.10.5 /30 (net .4 broad .7 host .5 & .6) > > int s0 = 172.16.10.9 /30 (net .8 broad .11 host .9 & .10) > > int s1 = 172.16.10.13 /30 (net .12 broad .15 host .13 & .14) > > > >Area Border Router. > >!(folks correct me if I blow it) > > > > router ospf 23 > > route 172.16.10.0 0.0.0.3 area 1 > > route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.3 area 2 > > route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.3 area 3 > > route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.3 area 4 > > summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.240 > >-- > > > >Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA > > > > > >- Original Message - > >From: Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 1:49 AM > >Subject: VLSM Question > > > > > >> I have four different interfaces on a 2514 router (e0,e1,s0,s1), each > >> interface is on a different subnet, and the mask is 30 bits. Here's they > >> are: > >> int e0 = 172.16.10.4 /30 > >> int e1 = 172.16.10.8 /30 > >> int s0 = 172.16.10.12 /30 > >> int s1 = 172.16.10.16 /30 > >> ( I only want two addresses per subnet) > >> I'm running OSPF routing protocol on this router. Each route is > >> configured in a different area, so that makes this router an Area Border > >> Router. > >> here's the logic: > >> router ospf 23 > >> route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.0 area 1 > >> route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.0 area 2 > >> route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.0 area 3 > >> route 172.16.10.16 0.0.0.0 area 4 > >> I want to summarize the addresses into one route for the routing table. > >> Is this possible? > >> Here's the binaries on the last octet: > >> 4 = .0100 > >> 8 = .1000 > >> 12= .1100 > >> 16= .0001 > >> I came up with summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224 > >> (ABR script = area 23 range 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224) > >> Is this correct? > >> > >> ___ > >> UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > >> FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > >> Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLSM Question
Kurt As a follow up Forget my first point Seems I am thinking of the link address... when I think you only intended to show the nets... thus I think u can see the rest Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: Lou Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Cisco GroupStudy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 2:36 PM Subject: Re: VLSM Question > Kurt, > Let me clear... My OSPF is weak... Lotsa study/// ZERO Hands on... I work > with EIGRP, RIP etc... but will start some lab work soon with OSPF to get > ready for bigger TEST! enough of the excuses as to why I > could be wrong... so listen for the crowd to flame me if I stumbled. > > Not really. > 1. Your e0-s1 are the network addresses... u need to make them the host > 2. This is oversummarization. Your route of 172.16.10.0/27 is a network of > .0 a broadcast of .31 and includes all the host from 1-30... > Example the .27 address (which you have not assigned) exist elsewhere in > your route domain it is lost because of you oversummarization > > I suggest > int e0 = 172.16.10.1 /30 (net .0 broad .3 host .1 & .2) > int e1 = 172.16.10.5 /30 (net .4 broad .7 host .5 & .6) > int s0 = 172.16.10.9 /30 (net .8 broad .11 host .9 & .10) > int s1 = 172.16.10.13 /30 (net .12 broad .15 host .13 & .14) > > Area Border Router. > !(folks correct me if I blow it) > > router ospf 23 > route 172.16.10.0 0.0.0.3 area 1 > route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.3 area 2 > route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.3 area 3 > route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.3 area 4 > summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.240 > -- > > Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA > > > - Original Message - > From: Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 1:49 AM > Subject: VLSM Question > > > > I have four different interfaces on a 2514 router (e0,e1,s0,s1), each > > interface is on a different subnet, and the mask is 30 bits. Here's they > > are: > > int e0 = 172.16.10.4 /30 > > int e1 = 172.16.10.8 /30 > > int s0 = 172.16.10.12 /30 > > int s1 = 172.16.10.16 /30 > > ( I only want two addresses per subnet) > > I'm running OSPF routing protocol on this router. Each route is > > configured in a different area, so that makes this router an Area Border > > Router. > > here's the logic: > > router ospf 23 > > route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.0 area 1 > > route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.0 area 2 > > route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.0 area 3 > > route 172.16.10.16 0.0.0.0 area 4 > > I want to summarize the addresses into one route for the routing table. > > Is this possible? > > Here's the binaries on the last octet: > > 4 = .0100 > > 8 = .1000 > > 12= .1100 > > 16= .0001 > > I came up with summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224 > > (ABR script = area 23 range 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224) > > Is this correct? > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: VLSM Question
Kurt, Let me clear... My OSPF is weak... Lotsa study/// ZERO Hands on... I work with EIGRP, RIP etc... but will start some lab work soon with OSPF to get ready for bigger TEST! enough of the excuses as to why I could be wrong... so listen for the crowd to flame me if I stumbled. Not really. 1. Your e0-s1 are the network addresses... u need to make them the host 2. This is oversummarization. Your route of 172.16.10.0/27 is a network of .0 a broadcast of .31 and includes all the host from 1-30... Example the .27 address (which you have not assigned) exist elsewhere in your route domain it is lost because of you oversummarization I suggest int e0 = 172.16.10.1 /30 (net .0 broad .3 host .1 & .2) int e1 = 172.16.10.5 /30 (net .4 broad .7 host .5 & .6) int s0 = 172.16.10.9 /30 (net .8 broad .11 host .9 & .10) int s1 = 172.16.10.13 /30 (net .12 broad .15 host .13 & .14) Area Border Router. !(folks correct me if I blow it) router ospf 23 route 172.16.10.0 0.0.0.3 area 1 route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.3 area 2 route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.3 area 3 route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.3 area 4 summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.240 -- Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA - Original Message - From: Kurt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2000 1:49 AM Subject: VLSM Question > I have four different interfaces on a 2514 router (e0,e1,s0,s1), each > interface is on a different subnet, and the mask is 30 bits. Here's they > are: > int e0 = 172.16.10.4 /30 > int e1 = 172.16.10.8 /30 > int s0 = 172.16.10.12 /30 > int s1 = 172.16.10.16 /30 > ( I only want two addresses per subnet) > I'm running OSPF routing protocol on this router. Each route is > configured in a different area, so that makes this router an Area Border > Router. > here's the logic: > router ospf 23 > route 172.16.10.4 0.0.0.0 area 1 > route 172.16.10.8 0.0.0.0 area 2 > route 172.16.10.12 0.0.0.0 area 3 > route 172.16.10.16 0.0.0.0 area 4 > I want to summarize the addresses into one route for the routing table. > Is this possible? > Here's the binaries on the last octet: > 4 = .0100 > 8 = .1000 > 12= .1100 > 16= .0001 > I came up with summary-address 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224 > (ABR script = area 23 range 172.16.10.0 255.255.255.224) > Is this correct? > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
A Big Time THANK YOU
Today I passed the routing 2.0 and am now certified CCNP version 2!!! I owe both group study and the newsgroup a big thanks some folks I owe more Joe, Chuck, Priscilla, Howard to name a few... I read all their post without exception Thanks now CID and then... -- Lou Nelson, CCNP, CCDA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF & RIP
Joe should be busy getting ready for his lab so let me. RIP routes are limited to a maximum distance of 16 "layer 3" hops (i.e. routers)... Basically your network could contain 26 routers but the max route from one to another (a - z) could not hop thru more then 15 or RIP would not see the route.. (think of it like the time to live exceeded). OSPF on the other hand can see up to 255 hops -- Lou Nelson, CCNA, CCDA Billy Monroe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8geo83$ml8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8geo83$ml8$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Hey Joe, can you tell more about the "Diameter of the network" when using > RIP/OSPF ? > > > ""Joe Martin"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 8genl5$kj5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8genl5$kj5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Perfect with minor issues. RIP V1 only supports FLSM and OSPF supports > > VLSM. So it depends on the IP addressing. Diameter of the network. RIP > > support 16 hops and OSPF is unlimited. > > > > That answer should have been good enough for most people though. Good > luck, > > > > JOE > > CCNP, CCDP, and a few other things... > > CCIE Lab - May 27/28 > > > > > > ""Billy Monroe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > > 8gen5g$j1f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8gen5g$j1f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > > Hello: > > > > > > An interviewer asked if I could enable RIP and OSPF on the same network. > > > I answered that it is possible to overlap protocols, but it is not > > > recommended. I said that OSPF has an Administrative Distance lower than > > RIP, > > > so OSPF will be the procotol in use. > > > > > > Is that a complete/correct answer ? > > > > > > Billy > > > CCNA > > > > > > > > > ___ > > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > --- > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: OSPF & RIP
Joe answer was great but I would add that OSPF allows Route Summarization -- Lou Nelson, CCNA, CCDA Joe Martin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8genl5$kj5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8genl5$kj5$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Perfect with minor issues. RIP V1 only supports FLSM and OSPF supports > VLSM. So it depends on the IP addressing. Diameter of the network. RIP > support 16 hops and OSPF is unlimited. > > That answer should have been good enough for most people though. Good luck, > > JOE > CCNP, CCDP, and a few other things... > CCIE Lab - May 27/28 > > > ""Billy Monroe"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message > 8gen5g$j1f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8gen5g$j1f$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > Hello: > > > > An interviewer asked if I could enable RIP and OSPF on the same network. > > I answered that it is possible to overlap protocols, but it is not > > recommended. I said that OSPF has an Administrative Distance lower than > RIP, > > so OSPF will be the procotol in use. > > > > Is that a complete/correct answer ? > > > > Billy > > CCNA > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --- > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spanning-tree
Negative ISBN # 0-201-63448-1 Well worth the buy... I got it nearly two months ago Lou Nelson, CCNA, CCDA - Original Message - From: Irwin Lazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 'Kelly Scroggins' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 9:36 PM Subject: RE: spanning-tree > There was a new version under development. I've got a manuscript copy but > I'm not sure if the latest version is ready yet. Check Amazon or Fatbrain. > > Irwin > > -Original Message- > From: Kelly Scroggins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, May 19, 2000 1:09 AM > To: Irwin Lazar > Cc: cisco > Subject: Re: spanning-tree > > > Would you (anyone) happen to know whether Radia > is up dating her book? > > kelly > > > Quoting Irwin Lazar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Your best bet is to get a copy of "Interconnections" by Radia Perlman. > > Radia wrote the Spanning Tree protocol and nobody explains it better. > > > > You can also see my web site at http://www.itprc.com/ and check out the > > datalink page for links to Ethernet resources. > > > > And finally, a new version of spanning tree is now emerging. It's IEEE > name > > is 802.3w and it offers much faster convergence times. You should be able > > to find more information about it on the above web site's "physical" page. > > There you'll find a link to the IEEE 802.3 standards page. > > > > Irwin > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Deepak Sharma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2000 8:51 PM > > To: cisco > > Subject: spanning-tree > > > > > > does anyone pls. send me a link to a website that will explain this > > concept in more detail. I know what > > spanning tree is and all, and i know the functionallity, but i still > > don't get on how they designate the ports...like which one becomes the > > root bridge and so on... > > > > thank you in advance > > > > Deepak > > > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
BCSN
Folks, The BCSN is NOW AVAILABLE The race is on the first ever CCNP 2.0 3 down 1 to go for me... Routing 2.0 Reality is I don't care who is first Just that all who try and deserve get it... Hoping that I am one of that group! Thank you for scheduling your exam with us! Registration Summary Client Name: CISCO CAREER CERTIFICATIONS Exam Number: 503 Exam Name: Routing 2.0 (BSCN) Site Name: PRODUCTIVITY POINT INT'L Site Address: 45 NE LOOP 410STE 300 Site City & State: SAN ANTONIO, TX 78216 Site Phone #: 210-342-6500 X507 Site Country: UNITED STATES Exam Date: 6/1/2000 Exam Time: 09:00 AM Exam Price:100.000 USD Payment Type: VISA --XXXX- -- Lou Nelson, CCNA, CCDA ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: BCMSN exam availability
It is available right now a www.2test.com!! Lou Nelson, CCNA, CCDA - Original Message - From: Marakalas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2000 10:39 AM Subject: BCMSN exam availability > Hi ppl > > Does someone know as to when will the new BCMSN and other CCNP ver 2.0 > exams be available. I'll really appreciate any input. Cheers > ___ > http://www.webmail.co.za the South-African free email service > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: DSL in Dallas, Texas
HMMM That said... After two missed appointments by the install tech..(I already self help the part you can) I gave up on SWAB. Two friends of mine had said they down more then up... and I simply need my network connection. Went Road Runner... The avg low that I see is 1.6 megbit down stream. It is not uncommon to see upwards of 4 megbits! 44.95 a month... 5 e-mails up to 3 ips... in 3 weeks 1 outage .. a fiber cut however it was back in 6 hours... even still I could hit all sites in the SATX network. - Original Message - From: jhitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2000 5:02 AM Subject: RE: DSL in Dallas, Texas > Well, I know you said no bell but I got to say I love my SWB DSL. Through my > ISP got Free installation and free modem only $40 a month. Average (not > peak) of 1 Mbps after I tweaked the RWIN. Plus one free static IP address > and 50 megs of webspace. > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > Ole Drews Jensen > > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 12:50 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: DSL in Dallas, Texas > > > > > > A little bit off the topic, but I need your help. > > > > Can anyone recommend a good and reliable DSL provider in Dallas, Texas? > > > > I would prefer NOT to go with Southwestern Bell nor to use any of their > > lines. > > > > Thanks and have a great weekend, > > > > Ole > > > > ~ > > Ole Drews Jensen > > Systems Network Manager > > MCSE, MCP+I > > RWR Enterprises, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > ~ > > > > ___ > > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
