Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
Besides the software what does a login to CCO get you, which public access doesn't? - Original Message - From: Michael L. Williams To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] He is neither of those. (in sales or has a contract) He simply finished CCNP/DP and BAM got an e-mail with CCO login.. strange. I'm more than willing to believe that this was a fluke and that getting CCNP/DP doesn't gain you a CCO login and I'm not trying to belabor the point. Just letting y'all know what happened. Mike W. Patrick Ramsey wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You need to be in sales or have a contract with Cisco for support. -Patrick Michael L. Williams 07/09/01 02:34PM Kevin Wigle wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... from various posts.. Quite often rumours are based in fact (like at one time needing CCNA to get CCDA... :-) ) 1.You do not get a CCO login account from CCNP/CCDP status. How is it possible that one, who has only CCNP/DP, has not even attempted CCIE written much less CCIE lab, and has never signed up for CCO login, received via e-mail a valid CCO login from Cisco? Just wondering as I know someone in that exact situation. I realize the CCIE is the end all to some people, but the fact of the matter is someone who is CCDP has the higest level design cert from Cisco, and how in the world does Cisco expect them to design and setup (in a test environment or otherwise) and configure good networks without access to IOS images and other CCO stuff? Geez. it's not like this stuff is a matter of national security. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11694t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
It depends who you are and who you work for, each CCO login can have a different profile for access to different areas such as bugsearch tools, upgrade planners, field notices, online forums, technical documents, case studies...the list goes on. Cisco are generally quite nice if you have a genuine reason to have your CCO access upgraded they can change it for you quickly. --- Donald B Johnson jr wrote: Besides the software what does a login to CCO get you, which public access doesn't? - Original Message - From: Michael L. Williams To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:02 PM Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] He is neither of those. (in sales or has a contract) He simply finished CCNP/DP and BAM got an e-mail with CCO login.. strange. I'm more than willing to believe that this was a fluke and that getting CCNP/DP doesn't gain you a CCO login and I'm not trying to belabor the point. Just letting y'all know what happened. Mike W. Patrick Ramsey wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You need to be in sales or have a contract with Cisco for support. -Patrick Michael L. Williams 07/09/01 02:34PM Kevin Wigle wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... from various posts.. Quite often rumours are based in fact (like at one time needing CCNA to get CCDA... :-) ) 1.You do not get a CCO login account from CCNP/CCDP status. How is it possible that one, who has only CCNP/DP, has not even attempted CCIE written much less CCIE lab, and has never signed up for CCO login, received via e-mail a valid CCO login from Cisco? Just wondering as I know someone in that exact situation. I realize the CCIE is the end all to some people, but the fact of the matter is someone who is CCDP has the higest level design cert from Cisco, and how in the world does Cisco expect them to design and setup (in a test environment or otherwise) and configure good networks without access to IOS images and other CCO stuff? Geez. it's not like this stuff is a matter of national security. Mike W. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11699t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
Hi Chuck, Surprised to hear that a Gold partner doesn't have access to IOS or TAC case support. What's the reason for that? Is that a decision within your company controlling who does what or from Cisco. Sorry - I don't know what your role is in the company. I take it there are groups of people within your company with this access. I also work for a Gold Partner in post-sales support. We sort of take the access we have for granted. There are certain guidelines, eg. at least 50% of cases be raised by CCIE's, to ensure that faults are being progressed to CCIE level before taking the soft option of a TAC case. Just curious anyway. Cheers, Gaz Chuck Larrieu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Cisco's IOS is it's Crown Jewels, so to speak. So Cisco restricts who has access to the downloading of IOS software. Otherwise, why would anyone pay for the IOS, when they could download it for free? TAC is for paying customers. There are public areas to Cisco's TAC site, but only paying customers can open cases. Otherwise, every wannabee on these mailing lists would be overwhelming TAC with requests for assistance. It must be bad enough when clueless customers call in ( once upon a time I was a clueless customer myself ;- ) Can you imagine the skyrocketing cost of support if list denizens had free access to TAC? I work for a Gold Partner, and I am not permitted to download IOS software, nor am I allowed to open TAC cases. On the other hand, I can use the Partners' pre-sales support all I want. And I can get to a lot of the customer pages. Other than that, there is a tremendous amount of information that is freely available. In almost every case, a web link that contains the word customer can be accessed without a login by substituting the work public Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] Well, actually, aside from this gets it, or that gets it, I stand by my statement that the CCO stuff isn't a national secret, and it pisses me off that Cisco protects it so. Especially when there are CCNA/DA/NP/DP's out there everyday that could use it and make Cisco themselves look that much better. Mike W. Rik Guyler wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It is possible it no longer exists or doesn't provide the benefits and resources it once did. I have a CCO account through work, which gives me more liberal permissions, so I don't miss the consultant account these days. When I first signed up with the program, maybe 18 months ago, I received a large box of documentation, slaes training materials, books, etc. including a CCO account. After the initial shipment, I received quarterly (I think) installments of the latest and greatest of these resources. When I noticed I wasn't getting this stuff any longer, I assumed I let my membership lax. Like I said, it didn't really matter much to me so I never looked into it further. I'm sure many things have been cut and considering the expense of sending out all those CDs, books etc., it would seem like a good candidate for trimming expenses. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:08 PM To: Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] At 10:50 PM 7/7/01, Rik Guyler wrote: Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. I signed up for the consultant program and can't get access to the private stuff that you guys (and gals) post sometimes. Are you sure this consultant program still exists? I never got anything from it. I think I got one newsletter maybe. Priscilla You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a
RE: CCO questions [7:11275]
In my case I'm pre-sales. ( also known as sales slime ) folks like me don't get all the goodies that you support folks get :- Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gareth Hinton Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] Hi Chuck, Surprised to hear that a Gold partner doesn't have access to IOS or TAC case support. What's the reason for that? Is that a decision within your company controlling who does what or from Cisco. Sorry - I don't know what your role is in the company. I take it there are groups of people within your company with this access. I also work for a Gold Partner in post-sales support. We sort of take the access we have for granted. There are certain guidelines, eg. at least 50% of cases be raised by CCIE's, to ensure that faults are being progressed to CCIE level before taking the soft option of a TAC case. Just curious anyway. Cheers, Gaz Chuck Larrieu wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Cisco's IOS is it's Crown Jewels, so to speak. So Cisco restricts who has access to the downloading of IOS software. Otherwise, why would anyone pay for the IOS, when they could download it for free? TAC is for paying customers. There are public areas to Cisco's TAC site, but only paying customers can open cases. Otherwise, every wannabee on these mailing lists would be overwhelming TAC with requests for assistance. It must be bad enough when clueless customers call in ( once upon a time I was a clueless customer myself ;- ) Can you imagine the skyrocketing cost of support if list denizens had free access to TAC? I work for a Gold Partner, and I am not permitted to download IOS software, nor am I allowed to open TAC cases. On the other hand, I can use the Partners' pre-sales support all I want. And I can get to a lot of the customer pages. Other than that, there is a tremendous amount of information that is freely available. In almost every case, a web link that contains the word customer can be accessed without a login by substituting the work public Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] Well, actually, aside from this gets it, or that gets it, I stand by my statement that the CCO stuff isn't a national secret, and it pisses me off that Cisco protects it so. Especially when there are CCNA/DA/NP/DP's out there everyday that could use it and make Cisco themselves look that much better. Mike W. Rik Guyler wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It is possible it no longer exists or doesn't provide the benefits and resources it once did. I have a CCO account through work, which gives me more liberal permissions, so I don't miss the consultant account these days. When I first signed up with the program, maybe 18 months ago, I received a large box of documentation, slaes training materials, books, etc. including a CCO account. After the initial shipment, I received quarterly (I think) installments of the latest and greatest of these resources. When I noticed I wasn't getting this stuff any longer, I assumed I let my membership lax. Like I said, it didn't really matter much to me so I never looked into it further. I'm sure many things have been cut and considering the expense of sending out all those CDs, books etc., it would seem like a good candidate for trimming expenses. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:08 PM To: Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] At 10:50 PM 7/7/01, Rik Guyler wrote: Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. I signed up for the consultant program and can't get access to the private stuff that you guys (and gals) post sometimes. Are you sure this consultant program still exists? I never got anything from it. I think I got one newsletter maybe. Priscilla You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in
Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
Don't mean to dispute your opinion, but (I have to point to my brother-in-law again) he received his CCO login after completing CCNP/DP earlier this year. can't say which, but it's obviously not reserved for CCIE as he's not even taken the written yet nor did he apply for it.. it just arrived via e-mail at some point after he completed NP/DP. Any other ideas? Mike W. Rik Guyler wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11530t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
Kevin Wigle wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... from various posts.. Quite often rumours are based in fact (like at one time needing CCNA to get CCDA... :-) ) 1.You do not get a CCO login account from CCNP/CCDP status. How is it possible that one, who has only CCNP/DP, has not even attempted CCIE written much less CCIE lab, and has never signed up for CCO login, received via e-mail a valid CCO login from Cisco? Just wondering as I know someone in that exact situation. I realize the CCIE is the end all to some people, but the fact of the matter is someone who is CCDP has the higest level design cert from Cisco, and how in the world does Cisco expect them to design and setup (in a test environment or otherwise) and configure good networks without access to IOS images and other CCO stuff? Geez. it's not like this stuff is a matter of national security. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11531t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Mike, Well, like what has happened before - sometimes things get changed as an explanation/story is passed down. I've been on CCO for a few years now, I'm a Premier Partner and deal with the ccoteam now and then concerning CCO logins as well as my personal experience with the very much changed Cisco Consultant Program. All I can suggest is to try and get as accurate a discription from your brother-in-law as possible of how he got his CCO account. Is he employed by a Cisco Partner/Reseller? I have registered employees for my company account. I enter in their name with my company credentials. When the account is created, the new account holder gets an email from ccoteam confirming that a login has been created for them. They don't initiate the process because I have to enter a special key to complete the account. I'm sure if you find out that he got it just for getting CCNP/CCDP that a whole lot of people on this list will want to know how. Kevin Wigle CCDP / CCNP / CSE (other non Cisco stuff.) President EffectiveNets Cisco Partner, Premier Certified Cisco Wireless Specialized Partner - Original Message - From: Michael L. Williams To: Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:34 PM Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] Kevin Wigle wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... from various posts.. Quite often rumours are based in fact (like at one time needing CCNA to get CCDA... :-) ) 1.You do not get a CCO login account from CCNP/CCDP status. How is it possible that one, who has only CCNP/DP, has not even attempted CCIE written much less CCIE lab, and has never signed up for CCO login, received via e-mail a valid CCO login from Cisco? Just wondering as I know someone in that exact situation. I realize the CCIE is the end all to some people, but the fact of the matter is someone who is CCDP has the higest level design cert from Cisco, and how in the world does Cisco expect them to design and setup (in a test environment or otherwise) and configure good networks without access to IOS images and other CCO stuff? Geez. it's not like this stuff is a matter of national security. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11555t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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You need to be in sales or have a contract with Cisco for support. -Patrick Michael L. Williams 07/09/01 02:34PM Kevin Wigle wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... from various posts.. Quite often rumours are based in fact (like at one time needing CCNA to get CCDA... :-) ) 1.You do not get a CCO login account from CCNP/CCDP status. How is it possible that one, who has only CCNP/DP, has not even attempted CCIE written much less CCIE lab, and has never signed up for CCO login, received via e-mail a valid CCO login from Cisco? Just wondering as I know someone in that exact situation. I realize the CCIE is the end all to some people, but the fact of the matter is someone who is CCDP has the higest level design cert from Cisco, and how in the world does Cisco expect them to design and setup (in a test environment or otherwise) and configure good networks without access to IOS images and other CCO stuff? Geez. it's not like this stuff is a matter of national security. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11535t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
He is neither of those. (in sales or has a contract) He simply finished CCNP/DP and BAM got an e-mail with CCO login.. strange. I'm more than willing to believe that this was a fluke and that getting CCNP/DP doesn't gain you a CCO login and I'm not trying to belabor the point. Just letting y'all know what happened. Mike W. Patrick Ramsey wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You need to be in sales or have a contract with Cisco for support. -Patrick Michael L. Williams 07/09/01 02:34PM Kevin Wigle wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... from various posts.. Quite often rumours are based in fact (like at one time needing CCNA to get CCDA... :-) ) 1.You do not get a CCO login account from CCNP/CCDP status. How is it possible that one, who has only CCNP/DP, has not even attempted CCIE written much less CCIE lab, and has never signed up for CCO login, received via e-mail a valid CCO login from Cisco? Just wondering as I know someone in that exact situation. I realize the CCIE is the end all to some people, but the fact of the matter is someone who is CCDP has the higest level design cert from Cisco, and how in the world does Cisco expect them to design and setup (in a test environment or otherwise) and configure good networks without access to IOS images and other CCO stuff? Geez. it's not like this stuff is a matter of national security. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11630t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
Well, actually, aside from this gets it, or that gets it, I stand by my statement that the CCO stuff isn't a national secret, and it pisses me off that Cisco protects it so. Especially when there are CCNA/DA/NP/DP's out there everyday that could use it and make Cisco themselves look that much better. Mike W. Rik Guyler wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It is possible it no longer exists or doesn't provide the benefits and resources it once did. I have a CCO account through work, which gives me more liberal permissions, so I don't miss the consultant account these days. When I first signed up with the program, maybe 18 months ago, I received a large box of documentation, slaes training materials, books, etc. including a CCO account. After the initial shipment, I received quarterly (I think) installments of the latest and greatest of these resources. When I noticed I wasn't getting this stuff any longer, I assumed I let my membership lax. Like I said, it didn't really matter much to me so I never looked into it further. I'm sure many things have been cut and considering the expense of sending out all those CDs, books etc., it would seem like a good candidate for trimming expenses. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:08 PM To: Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] At 10:50 PM 7/7/01, Rik Guyler wrote: Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. I signed up for the consultant program and can't get access to the private stuff that you guys (and gals) post sometimes. Are you sure this consultant program still exists? I never got anything from it. I think I got one newsletter maybe. Priscilla You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11632t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCO questions [7:11275]
Cisco's IOS is it's Crown Jewels, so to speak. So Cisco restricts who has access to the downloading of IOS software. Otherwise, why would anyone pay for the IOS, when they could download it for free? TAC is for paying customers. There are public areas to Cisco's TAC site, but only paying customers can open cases. Otherwise, every wannabee on these mailing lists would be overwhelming TAC with requests for assistance. It must be bad enough when clueless customers call in ( once upon a time I was a clueless customer myself ;- ) Can you imagine the skyrocketing cost of support if list denizens had free access to TAC? I work for a Gold Partner, and I am not permitted to download IOS software, nor am I allowed to open TAC cases. On the other hand, I can use the Partners' pre-sales support all I want. And I can get to a lot of the customer pages. Other than that, there is a tremendous amount of information that is freely available. In almost every case, a web link that contains the word customer can be accessed without a login by substituting the work public Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Michael L. Williams Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 7:05 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] Well, actually, aside from this gets it, or that gets it, I stand by my statement that the CCO stuff isn't a national secret, and it pisses me off that Cisco protects it so. Especially when there are CCNA/DA/NP/DP's out there everyday that could use it and make Cisco themselves look that much better. Mike W. Rik Guyler wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... It is possible it no longer exists or doesn't provide the benefits and resources it once did. I have a CCO account through work, which gives me more liberal permissions, so I don't miss the consultant account these days. When I first signed up with the program, maybe 18 months ago, I received a large box of documentation, slaes training materials, books, etc. including a CCO account. After the initial shipment, I received quarterly (I think) installments of the latest and greatest of these resources. When I noticed I wasn't getting this stuff any longer, I assumed I let my membership lax. Like I said, it didn't really matter much to me so I never looked into it further. I'm sure many things have been cut and considering the expense of sending out all those CDs, books etc., it would seem like a good candidate for trimming expenses. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 2:08 PM To: Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] At 10:50 PM 7/7/01, Rik Guyler wrote: Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. I signed up for the consultant program and can't get access to the private stuff that you guys (and gals) post sometimes. Are you sure this consultant program still exists? I never got anything from it. I think I got one newsletter maybe. Priscilla You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11635t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Unfortunately, having a reseller/partner account does not grant you the permissions to download software such as IOS, PIX OS, CAT OS, etc. Now, I'm not saying that you absolutely can't get these rights with this account, but it's not the default. According to Cisco, if you're a reseller/partner, the way to download software is to use the customer's account that was setup with their SmartNet contract or a special download access code provided by TAC. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Sam Deckert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 1:00 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] Hey all Does anyone know what is involved for a Cisco Authorised Reseller to obtain access to download router images etc from CCO? What level of access or partner status is required to be able to download the software? Thanks! Sam. - Original Message - From: Rik Guyler To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11332t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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As far as the CCO Get Login question, to review the requirements or get forms, you have to login to CCO! Then, to add insult to injury when I just shrugged and said forget it and clicked the get login button, the javascript flatlines! Oh well. -P.Kil. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11343t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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from various posts.. Quite often rumours are based in fact (like at one time needing CCNA to get CCDA... :-) ) 1.You do not get a CCO login account from CCNP/CCDP status. 2.The consultant program used to give you a CCO login, I got one when I registered for the Consultant program on 2 April 1999. However, the program has changed and is now completely web based. You can find it here: http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/765/partner_programs/consultant/ 3.An authorized Reseller or Partner can register their employess for a CCO login. However, this does not get you download capabilities. 4.If a Reseller/Partner requests that a name be removed from their account, the person removed will retain Guest status. I think it is for a limited time - I'm not sure. When I requested that an employee that left my company be taken off our account the CCO team member told me this. 5.To download images your CCO login has to be associated with a maintenance contract. My company account gets me to expanded information and Cisco company information but it doesn't allow me to download software. Another login I have with a client I have has me listed on their smartnet and with that account I can download software. 6.Someone wrote that the Get Login bombed on them I just tried it, got to the form and I did everything except push the last submit (because I have 2 accounts). Looked good up to that point. Kevin Wigle Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11360t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11276t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11280t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11290t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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gotta wonder how these rumors get started. does the consultant's program still exist? and do you still get anything from it? I haven't seen the quarterly goody bag in almost a year. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rik Guyler Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11292t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I don't know if this will work, but it's worth mentioning The new partner application requires you to have CCO login. If you don't have a login, you can't complete the application. At the bottom of the application page is a get login button. I haven't tried this, but you may be able to fill out the information and obtain very basic CCO access. The page is http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/765/partner_programs/apply/ If anyone uses this to obtain CCO access, let me know. I'm curious if it works. Craig At 10:39 PM 7/7/2001 -0400, you wrote: easiest way is to buy a single smartnet contract for one of your routers. :- I am unaware of Cisco providing CCO login just because you are a CCNP. I believe but am not certain that a CCO account is one of the CCIE privileges. At one time I had decent access because I was a member of the consultant's program, but Cisco seems to have let that one fall by the wayside. As an employee in good standing of a Cisco partner, I do have a CCO account. But I am not permitted to open TAC cases. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of DNT Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11293t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Come to think of it, I haven't received anything for awhile either but to be honest, haven't really missed it as I too work for a partner. It may no longer be active but it would be worth it for the listers that don't work for a partner to check it out. I have heard of a CCO guest account. I don't know what it gets you but it exists. Before anybody asks, I don't have a clue how to get it, what it gets you, etc. I just know it's available. How do these things get started...? ;-} --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 11:06 PM To: Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] gotta wonder how these rumors get started. does the consultant's program still exist? and do you still get anything from it? I haven't seen the quarterly goody bag in almost a year. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rik Guyler Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11300t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCO questions [7:11275]
Hey all Does anyone know what is involved for a Cisco Authorised Reseller to obtain access to download router images etc from CCO? What level of access or partner status is required to be able to download the software? Thanks! Sam. - Original Message - From: Rik Guyler To: Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 12:50 PM Subject: RE: CCO questions [7:11275] Guys (or gals - don't want to offend the female members!), I hate to break it to you, but being a CCNP doesn't get you a CCO account. Being a CCIE does, but that's a different matter. Instead, why don't you sign up with the consultant program? It's free and you will get a CCO account. You can't download any software with this account but you will gain access to the private documents, resources, etc. --- Rik Guyler -Original Message- From: Michael L. Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 9:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCO questions [7:11275] How long after finishing CCNP, etc does it usually take to get the CCO account? Just wondering. I finished CCNP and am eager to get my CCO login. Mike W. DNT wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I think in order to obtain an account on CCO, you must be a CCNP, CCIE, or reseller. Denny Preston Kilburn wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I have a newbie question here. What ways can one get a CCO login to the CCO sight? Do you have to own equipment or be a CCIE? -P.Kil Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=11304t=11275 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]