RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-27 Thread Chuck Larrieu

as long as we're on the subject of DHCP, I'm wondering if someone can point
me to a reference giving the specifics of the DHCP option numbers ( without
pointing me to The DHCP Handbook, which I don't have time to read right
now ) I ran a cross a situation where I needed to understand some of the
option numbers, and what they meant. The RFC's I checked mentioned options
but did not specify the numbers and their associated services. I did find
the specific answer I required on CCO ( believe it or not ) but it occurs to
me that it would be handy to have a reference.

( RFC 1533 did not list options above 61. RFC 2132 list one of the options I
was looking for, but stops at  so. none of the other couple - out of 20 -
that I browsed looked promising. I checked IANA, but I didn't think I would
find anything there, and I was right. )

Chuck

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At 05:14 PM 9/26/01, Brian wrote:
Yeah I always thought the helper address command was the way to get a whole
bunch of nonroutable junk forwarded.

It gets a bunch of UDP broadcasts forwarded.

I figured out the ip dhcp-server command. It's not a replacement for ip
helper-address. It's for access servers. It's only documented in access
server documentation and documentation for the Gateway General Packet Radio
Service (GPRS) Support Node (GGSN), whatever that is. The GGSN provides
services to wireless devices, that much I know, and it's sort of an access
server for the purposes of this discussion.

So dial-up users, wireless users, etc. reach the Internet or corporate
intranet through the access server. With ip dhcp-server you can make sure
the access server gives these users an IP address because it forwards their
requests (or asks on its own) to a DHCP server. Note that if the DHCP
server is not on the same LAN as the access server, then you need to
configure ip helper-address on intermediate routers between the access
server and DHCP server.

ip helper-address is also used for the more common situations, for example,
when clients are on a different LAN than the DHCP server. ip dhcp-server
didn't work in this case, per my previous message.

I'd love to hear any more uses for ip dhcp-server if they exist. I would
think that access server could also mean a DSL or cable modem router, but
I don't see any evidence of the ip dhcp-server command being documented
for those environments.

(The command definitely doesn't turn the router into a DHCP server a I
originally said, sorry. I feel sort of justified for that mistake, though
since the other ip dhcp commands do that. ;-)

Priscilla


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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread khramov

Hello,
 ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So would you
agree
 that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
broadcast, ip
 helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If I
enable ip
 dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 66 and
67)?

 Thanks a lot,
 Alex

MADMAN wrote:

 Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with RSP8's and
 an MSFC2,
 they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.   So I
 figured they
 must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67 and
 wallah, there it
 is!!!

 C7507MIX#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
 C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
 C7507MIX(config)#^Z
 C7507MIX#wr t
 Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
 ip classless
 no ip forward-protocol udp bootps

   Dave

 khramov wrote:

  I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config file.  I
  mean (ip
  forward-protocol udp 67).
  Is that the way it is suppose to be?
 
  MADMAN wrote:
 
   Check ip foward protocol
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
   
Hello
 How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
 helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
 services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
 to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
 ports 67 and 68 only?
   
 And another question that I have what exactly ip
 directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
 site but I never came across a clear defenition?
   
 Thanks,
 Alex
   
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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I think if you configure the router for 'ip dhcp-server' you are configuring
the router as a dhcp server.  If you want to do that you need to configure a
address pool as well.

-Eric

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


Hello,
 ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So would you
agree
 that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
broadcast, ip
 helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If I
enable ip
 dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 66 and
67)?

 Thanks a lot,
 Alex

MADMAN wrote:

 Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with RSP8's
and
 an MSFC2,
 they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.   So I
 figured they
 must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67 and
 wallah, there it
 is!!!

 C7507MIX#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
 C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
 C7507MIX(config)#^Z
 C7507MIX#wr t
 Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
 ip classless
 no ip forward-protocol udp bootps

   Dave

 khramov wrote:

  I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config file.  I
  mean (ip
  forward-protocol udp 67).
  Is that the way it is suppose to be?
 
  MADMAN wrote:
 
   Check ip foward protocol
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
   
Hello
 How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
 helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
 services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
 to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
 ports 67 and 68 only?
   
 And another question that I have what exactly ip
 directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
 site but I never came across a clear defenition?
   
 Thanks,
 Alex
   
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Tim Booth

Alex,

Ip dhcp-server should be sufficient for your needs. Nothing else should need
to be enabled. Try it out.

Tim Booth

- Original Message -
From: khramov 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


 Hello,
  ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So would
you
 agree
  that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
 broadcast, ip
  helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If I
 enable ip
  dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 66
and
 67)?

  Thanks a lot,
  Alex

 MADMAN wrote:

  Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with RSP8's
and
  an MSFC2,
  they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.   So
I
  figured they
  must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67 and
  wallah, there it
  is!!!
 
  C7507MIX#conf t
  Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
  C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
  C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
  C7507MIX(config)#^Z
  C7507MIX#wr t
  Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
  ip classless
  no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
 
   I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config file.
I
   mean (ip
   forward-protocol udp 67).
   Is that the way it is suppose to be?
  
   MADMAN wrote:
  
Check ip foward protocol
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:

 Hello
  How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
  helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
  services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
  to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
  ports 67 and 68 only?

  And another question that I have what exactly ip
  directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
  site but I never came across a clear defenition?

  Thanks,
  Alex

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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you 
already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and

ip forward-protocol udp 67
no ip forward-protocol 137
no ip forward-protocol 138

The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast 
forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a helper 
address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to configure 
it to be more discerning.

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
Hello,
  ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So would
you
agree
  that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
broadcast, ip
  helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If I
enable ip
  dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 66 and
67)?

  Thanks a lot,
  Alex

MADMAN wrote:

  Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with RSP8's
and
  an MSFC2,
  they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.   So
I
  figured they
  must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67 and
  wallah, there it
  is!!!
 
  C7507MIX#conf t
  Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
  C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
  C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
  C7507MIX(config)#^Z
  C7507MIX#wr t
  Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
  ip classless
  no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
 
   I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config file. 
I
   mean (ip
   forward-protocol udp 67).
   Is that the way it is suppose to be?
  
   MADMAN wrote:
  
Check ip foward protocol
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:

 Hello
  How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
  helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
  services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
  to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
  ports 67 and 68 only?

  And another question that I have what exactly ip
  directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
  site but I never came across a clear defenition?

  Thanks,
  Alex

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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Tim Booth

Priscilla and others:

Ip dhcp-server does not turn your router into a dhcp server. It tells your
router where your dhcp server is.

Tim Booth

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


 Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
 already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and

 ip forward-protocol udp 67
 no ip forward-protocol 137
 no ip forward-protocol 138

 The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
 forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a helper
 address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to configure
 it to be more discerning.

 Priscilla

 At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 Hello,
   ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So would
 you
 agree
   that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
 broadcast, ip
   helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If
I
 enable ip
   dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 66
and
 67)?
 
   Thanks a lot,
   Alex
 
 MADMAN wrote:
 
   Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
RSP8's
 and
   an MSFC2,
   they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.
So
 I
   figured they
   must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
and
   wallah, there it
   is!!!
  
   C7507MIX#conf t
   Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
   C7507MIX(config)#^Z
   C7507MIX#wr t
   Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
   ip classless
   no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
  
I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config
file.
 I
mean (ip
forward-protocol udp 67).
Is that the way it is suppose to be?
   
MADMAN wrote:
   
 Check ip foward protocol

   Dave

 khramov wrote:
 
  Hello
   How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
   helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
   services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
guess
   to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast
on
   ports 67 and 68 only?
 
   And another question that I have what exactly ip
   directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
   site but I never came across a clear defenition?
 
   Thanks,
   Alex
 
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread MADMAN

Bravo,  This makes the router a DHCP server:

ip dhcp pool dave
   network 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0
   dns-server 172.28.2.217 172.28.2.10
   default-router 10.0.0.1

  Dave

Tim Booth wrote:
 
 Priscilla and others:
 
 Ip dhcp-server does not turn your router into a dhcp server. It tells your
 router where your dhcp server is.
 
 Tim Booth
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]
 
  Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
  already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
 
  ip forward-protocol udp 67
  no ip forward-protocol 137
  no ip forward-protocol 138
 
  The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
  forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
helper
  address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
configure
  it to be more discerning.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
  Hello,
ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
would
  you
  agree
that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
  broadcast, ip
helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If
 I
  enable ip
dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 66
 and
  67)?
  
Thanks a lot,
Alex
  
  MADMAN wrote:
  
Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
 RSP8's
  and
an MSFC2,
they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.
 So
  I
figured they
must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
 and
wallah, there it
is!!!
   
C7507MIX#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
C7507MIX(config)#^Z
C7507MIX#wr t
Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:
   
 I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config
 file.
  I
 mean (ip
 forward-protocol udp 67).
 Is that the way it is suppose to be?

 MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
 guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast
 on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's
web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 01:06 PM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 From my understanding ip dhcp-server command will enable upd broadcast 
 on  ports 66 and 67.  Is that true?

It causes your router to BE a DHCP server and to accept and process 
broadcasts to UDP port 67 and to send responses from port 66. It does not 
cause the router to forward UDP broadcasts to port 67.

If you turn your router into a DHCP server, you would also have to identify 
an external File Transport Protocol (FTP), Trivial File Transfer Protocol 
(TFTP), or remote copy protocol (rcp) server that you will use to store the 
DHCP bindings database. The router will access that database. Here's more 
info on turning your router into a DHCP server, which is often not a good 
idea, in my opinion (because it detracts from the router's real jobs):

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr_c/ipcprt1/1cfdhcp.htm

Priscilla


Alex


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and

ip forward-protocol udp 67
no ip forward-protocol 137
no ip forward-protocol 138

The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a helper
address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to configure
it to be more discerning.

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 Hello,
   ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So 
 would you
 agree
   that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
 broadcast, ip
   helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If
I
 enable ip
   dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 
 66 and
 67)?
 
   Thanks a lot,
   Alex
 
 MADMAN wrote:
 
   Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with 
 RSP8's and
   an MSFC2,
   they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the 
 config.   So I
   figured they
   must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
and
   wallah, there it
   is!!!
  
   C7507MIX#conf t
   Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
   C7507MIX(config)#^Z
   C7507MIX#wr t
   Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
   ip classless
   no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
  
I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config 
 file.  I
mean (ip
forward-protocol udp 67).
Is that the way it is suppose to be?
   
MADMAN wrote:
   
 Check ip foward protocol

   Dave

 khramov wrote:
 
  Hello
   How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
   helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
   services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
guess
   to be more specific what can I do to forward udp 
 broadcast on
   ports 67 and 68 only?
 
   And another question that I have what exactly ip
   directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
   site but I never came across a clear defenition?
 
   Thanks,
   Alex
 
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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Steve Smith

Right on Dave!

And on top of that don't forget your global config:

dhcp exclude-address 2.2.2.1 2.2.2.15 (if you need some static
addresses).



-Original Message-
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Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


Bravo,  This makes the router a DHCP server:

ip dhcp pool dave
   network 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0
   dns-server 172.28.2.217 172.28.2.10
   default-router 10.0.0.1

  Dave

Tim Booth wrote:
 
 Priscilla and others:
 
 Ip dhcp-server does not turn your router into a dhcp server. It tells
your
 router where your dhcp server is.
 
 Tim Booth
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]
 
  Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought
you
  already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
 
  ip forward-protocol udp 67
  no ip forward-protocol 137
  no ip forward-protocol 138
 
  The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
  forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
helper
  address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
configure
  it to be more discerning.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
  Hello,
ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
would
  you
  agree
that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
  broadcast, ip
helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global
config?  If
 I
  enable ip
dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp
(ports 66
 and
  67)?
  
Thanks a lot,
Alex
  
  MADMAN wrote:
  
Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
 RSP8's
  and
an MSFC2,
they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the
config.
 So
  I
figured they
must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp
67
 and
wallah, there it
is!!!
   
C7507MIX#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
C7507MIX(config)#^Z
C7507MIX#wr t
Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:
   
 I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in
config
 file.
  I
 mean (ip
 forward-protocol udp 67).
 Is that the way it is suppose to be?

 MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know
that ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of
netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So
I
 guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp
broadcast
 on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched
Cisco's
web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey Dave, forgot 1 line:

ip dhcp excluded-address 10.0.0.1

Thanks Buddy! ;^)

-Eric

-Original Message-
From: MADMAN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


Bravo,  This makes the router a DHCP server:

ip dhcp pool dave
   network 10.0.0.0 255.255.255.0
   dns-server 172.28.2.217 172.28.2.10
   default-router 10.0.0.1

  Dave

Tim Booth wrote:
 
 Priscilla and others:
 
 Ip dhcp-server does not turn your router into a dhcp server. It tells your
 router where your dhcp server is.
 
 Tim Booth
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:12 PM
 Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]
 
  Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
  already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
 
  ip forward-protocol udp 67
  no ip forward-protocol 137
  no ip forward-protocol 138
 
  The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
  forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
helper
  address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
configure
  it to be more discerning.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
  Hello,
ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
would
  you
  agree
that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
  broadcast, ip
helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?
If
 I
  enable ip
dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports
66
 and
  67)?
  
Thanks a lot,
Alex
  
  MADMAN wrote:
  
Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
 RSP8's
  and
an MSFC2,
they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.
 So
  I
figured they
must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
 and
wallah, there it
is!!!
   
C7507MIX#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
C7507MIX(config)#^Z
C7507MIX#wr t
Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:
   
 I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config
 file.
  I
 mean (ip
 forward-protocol udp 67).
 Is that the way it is suppose to be?

 MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that
ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
 guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp
broadcast
 on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's
web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

OK, I'm starting to see where the confusion is coming from. The ip 
dhcp-server command can be used on dial-up PPP links. It specifies the IP 
address of a DHCP server for the PPP client to use. It was almost 
impossible to find in the documentation. Most of the ip dhcp commands 
relate to telling your router to be a DHCP server, which is a completely 
different solution, of course.

Are you using PPP, Khramov?

The general-purpose way to tell your router the address of your DHCP server 
is the ip helper-address command.

Priscilla

At 01:54 PM 9/26/01, Tim Booth wrote:
Priscilla and others:

Ip dhcp-server does not turn your router into a dhcp server. It tells your
router where your dhcp server is.

Tim Booth

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


  Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
  already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
 
  ip forward-protocol udp 67
  no ip forward-protocol 137
  no ip forward-protocol 138
 
  The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
  forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
helper
  address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
configure
  it to be more discerning.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
  Hello,
ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
would
  you
  agree
that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
  broadcast, ip
helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If
I
  enable ip
dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 66
and
  67)?
  
Thanks a lot,
Alex
  
  MADMAN wrote:
  
Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
RSP8's
  and
an MSFC2,
they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.
So
  I
figured they
must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
and
wallah, there it
is!!!
   
C7507MIX#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
C7507MIX(config)#^Z
C7507MIX#wr t
Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:
   
 I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config
file.
  I
 mean (ip
 forward-protocol udp 67).
 Is that the way it is suppose to be?

 MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast
on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's
web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Their must be more than one way to foreword DHCP requests.



Tom got me looking into this earlier.

-Eric

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


At 01:06 PM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 From my understanding ip dhcp-server command will enable upd broadcast 
 on  ports 66 and 67.  Is that true?

It causes your router to BE a DHCP server and to accept and process 
broadcasts to UDP port 67 and to send responses from port 66. It does not 
cause the router to forward UDP broadcasts to port 67.

If you turn your router into a DHCP server, you would also have to identify 
an external File Transport Protocol (FTP), Trivial File Transfer Protocol 
(TFTP), or remote copy protocol (rcp) server that you will use to store the 
DHCP bindings database. The router will access that database. Here's more 
info on turning your router into a DHCP server, which is often not a good 
idea, in my opinion (because it detracts from the router's real jobs):

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
_c/ipcprt1/1cfdhcp.htm

Priscilla


Alex


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and

ip forward-protocol udp 67
no ip forward-protocol 137
no ip forward-protocol 138

The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a helper
address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to configure
it to be more discerning.

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 Hello,
   ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So 
 would you
 agree
   that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
 broadcast, ip
   helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If
I
 enable ip
   dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 
 66 and
 67)?
 
   Thanks a lot,
   Alex
 
 MADMAN wrote:
 
   Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with 
 RSP8's and
   an MSFC2,
   they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the 
 config.   So I
   figured they
   must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
and
   wallah, there it
   is!!!
  
   C7507MIX#conf t
   Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
   C7507MIX(config)#^Z
   C7507MIX#wr t
   Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
   ip classless
   no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
  
I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config 
 file.  I
mean (ip
forward-protocol udp 67).
Is that the way it is suppose to be?
   
MADMAN wrote:
   
 Check ip foward protocol

   Dave

 khramov wrote:
 
  Hello
   How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
   helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
   services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
guess
   to be more specific what can I do to forward udp 
 broadcast on
   ports 67 and 68 only?
 
   And another question that I have what exactly ip
   directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's
web
   site but I never came across a clear defenition?
 
   Thanks,
   Alex
 
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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Yes, I finally found that also, but only in reference to dial-up networks 
where the router is acting as an access sever for SLIP/PPP clients. Does it 
work elsewhere? It would be good if it did.

Priscilla

At 02:24 PM 9/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Their must be more than one way to foreword DHCP requests.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/dial_r/drdreip.htm#xtocid1564817
 


Tom got me looking into this earlier.

-Eric

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]

At 01:06 PM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
  From my understanding ip dhcp-server command will enable upd broadcast
  on  ports 66 and 67.  Is that true?

It causes your router to BE a DHCP server and to accept and process
broadcasts to UDP port 67 and to send responses from port 66. It does not
cause the router to forward UDP broadcasts to port 67.

If you turn your router into a DHCP server, you would also have to identify
an external File Transport Protocol (FTP), Trivial File Transfer Protocol
(TFTP), or remote copy protocol (rcp) server that you will use to store the
DHCP bindings database. The router will access that database. Here's more
info on turning your router into a DHCP server, which is often not a good
idea, in my opinion (because it detracts from the router's real jobs):

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr_c/ipcprt1/1cfdhcp.htm
 


Priscilla

 Alex
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
 already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
 
 ip forward-protocol udp 67
 no ip forward-protocol 137
 no ip forward-protocol 138
 
 The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
 forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
helper
 address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
configure
 it to be more discerning.
 
 Priscilla
 
 At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
  Hello,
ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
  would you
  agree
that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
  broadcast, ip
helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config? 
If
I
  enable ip
dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports
  66 and
  67)?
  
Thanks a lot,
Alex
  
  MADMAN wrote:
  
Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
  RSP8's and
an MSFC2,
they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the
  config.   So I
figured they
must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
and
wallah, there it
is!!!
   
C7507MIX#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
C7507MIX(config)#^Z
C7507MIX#wr t
Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:
   
 I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config
  file.  I
 mean (ip
 forward-protocol udp 67).
 Is that the way it is suppose to be?

 MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that
ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp
  broadcast on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's 
 web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread khramov

Priscilla,
 I think that you are right about the ip dhcp-server command.  I looked it
up on Cisco's web site.  It seems
that it can be used only with dial up to tell the client where dhcp server
is.

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

 Yes, I finally found that also, but only in reference to dial-up networks
 where the router is acting as an access sever for SLIP/PPP clients. Does it
 work elsewhere? It would be good if it did.

 Priscilla

 At 02:24 PM 9/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Their must be more than one way to foreword DHCP requests.
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/dial_r/drdreip.htm#xtocid1564817
 
 
 Tom got me looking into this earlier.
 
 -Eric
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:05 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]
 
 At 01:06 PM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
   From my understanding ip dhcp-server command will enable upd broadcast
   on  ports 66 and 67.  Is that true?
 
 It causes your router to BE a DHCP server and to accept and process
 broadcasts to UDP port 67 and to send responses from port 66. It does not
 cause the router to forward UDP broadcasts to port 67.
 
 If you turn your router into a DHCP server, you would also have to
identify
 an external File Transport Protocol (FTP), Trivial File Transfer Protocol
 (TFTP), or remote copy protocol (rcp) server that you will use to store
the
 DHCP bindings database. The router will access that database. Here's more
 info on turning your router into a DHCP server, which is often not a good
 idea, in my opinion (because it detracts from the router's real jobs):
 

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr_c/ipcprt1/1cfdhcp.htm
 
 
 Priscilla
 
  Alex
  
  
  Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
  Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
  already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
  
  ip forward-protocol udp 67
  no ip forward-protocol 137
  no ip forward-protocol 138
  
  The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
  forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
 helper
  address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
 configure
  it to be more discerning.
  
  Priscilla
  
  At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
   Hello,
 ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
   would you
   agree
 that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
   broadcast, ip
 helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?
 If
 I
   enable ip
 dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports
   66 and
   67)?
   
 Thanks a lot,
 Alex
   
   MADMAN wrote:
   
 Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
   RSP8's and
 an MSFC2,
 they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the
   config.   So I
 figured they
 must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp
67
 and
 wallah, there it
 is!!!

 C7507MIX#conf t
 Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
 C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
 C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
 C7507MIX(config)#^Z
 C7507MIX#wr t
 Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
 ip classless
 no ip forward-protocol udp bootps

   Dave

 khramov wrote:

  I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config
   file.  I
  mean (ip
  forward-protocol udp 67).
  Is that the way it is suppose to be?
 
  MADMAN wrote:
 
   Check ip foward protocol
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
   
Hello
 How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that
 ip
 helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
 services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
 guess
 to be more specific what can I do to forward udp
   broadcast on
 ports 67 and 68 only?
   
 And another question that I have what exactly ip
 directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's
  web
 site but I never came across a clear defenition?
   
 Thanks,
 Alex
   
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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Try this again.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/dial
_r/drdreip.htm#xtocid1564817

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: DHCP [7:21051]


Their must be more than one way to foreword DHCP requests.



Tom got me looking into this earlier.

-Eric

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:05 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


At 01:06 PM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 From my understanding ip dhcp-server command will enable upd broadcast 
 on  ports 66 and 67.  Is that true?

It causes your router to BE a DHCP server and to accept and process 
broadcasts to UDP port 67 and to send responses from port 66. It does not 
cause the router to forward UDP broadcasts to port 67.

If you turn your router into a DHCP server, you would also have to identify 
an external File Transport Protocol (FTP), Trivial File Transfer Protocol 
(TFTP), or remote copy protocol (rcp) server that you will use to store the 
DHCP bindings database. The router will access that database. Here's more 
info on turning your router into a DHCP server, which is often not a good 
idea, in my opinion (because it detracts from the router's real jobs):

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/fipr
_c/ipcprt1/1cfdhcp.htm

Priscilla


Alex


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and

ip forward-protocol udp 67
no ip forward-protocol 137
no ip forward-protocol 138

The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a helper
address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to configure
it to be more discerning.

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 Hello,
   ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So 
 would you
 agree
   that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
 broadcast, ip
   helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?  If
I
 enable ip
   dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports 
 66 and
 67)?
 
   Thanks a lot,
   Alex
 
 MADMAN wrote:
 
   Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with 
 RSP8's and
   an MSFC2,
   they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the 
 config.   So I
   figured they
   must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
and
   wallah, there it
   is!!!
  
   C7507MIX#conf t
   Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
   C7507MIX(config)#^Z
   C7507MIX#wr t
   Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
   ip classless
   no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
  
I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config 
 file.  I
mean (ip
forward-protocol udp 67).
Is that the way it is suppose to be?
   
MADMAN wrote:
   
 Check ip foward protocol

   Dave

 khramov wrote:
 
  Hello
   How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
   helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
   services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
guess
   to be more specific what can I do to forward udp 
 broadcast on
   ports 67 and 68 only?
 
   And another question that I have what exactly ip
   directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's
web
   site but I never came across a clear defenition?
 
   Thanks,
   Alex
 
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Wayne Wenthin

I am currently using this command on many routers ranging in ios from 10.2 
(yeah I know but its a couple a hundred miles away) to 12.2.  Without it 
our customers (we are an ISP) cannot reach the DHCP servers.  It must work 
outside of the dialup only arena.


At 01:09 PM 9/26/2001, khramov wrote:
Priscilla,
  I think that you are right about the ip dhcp-server command.  I looked it
up on Cisco's web site.  It seems
that it can be used only with dial up to tell the client where dhcp server
is.

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

  Yes, I finally found that also, but only in reference to dial-up networks
  where the router is acting as an access sever for SLIP/PPP clients. Does
it
  work elsewhere? It would be good if it did.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 02:24 PM 9/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Their must be more than one way to foreword DHCP requests.
  
 
 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/d 
 ial_r/drdreip.htm#xtocid1564817
  
  
  Tom got me looking into this earlier.
  
  -Eric
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:05 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]
  
  At 01:06 PM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
From my understanding ip dhcp-server command will enable upd
broadcast
on  ports 66 and 67.  Is that true?
  
  It causes your router to BE a DHCP server and to accept and process
  broadcasts to UDP port 67 and to send responses from port 66. It does
not
  cause the router to forward UDP broadcasts to port 67.
  
  If you turn your router into a DHCP server, you would also have to
identify
  an external File Transport Protocol (FTP), Trivial File Transfer
Protocol
  (TFTP), or remote copy protocol (rcp) server that you will use to store
the
  DHCP bindings database. The router will access that database. Here's
more
  info on turning your router into a DHCP server, which is often not a
good
  idea, in my opinion (because it detracts from the router's real jobs):
  
 
 http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/f 
 ipr_c/ipcprt1/1cfdhcp.htm
  
  
  Priscilla
  
   Alex
   
   
   Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
   Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
   already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
   
   ip forward-protocol udp 67
   no ip forward-protocol 137
   no ip forward-protocol 138
   
   The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
   forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
  helper
   address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
  configure
   it to be more discerning.
   
   Priscilla
   
   At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
Hello,
  ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
would you
agree
  that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
broadcast, ip
  helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global
config?
  If
  I
enable ip
  dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp 
(ports
66 and
67)?

  Thanks a lot,
  Alex

MADMAN wrote:

  Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
RSP8's and
  an MSFC2,
  they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the
config.   So I
  figured they
  must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp
67
  and
  wallah, there it
  is!!!
 
  C7507MIX#conf t
  Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
  C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
  C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
  C7507MIX(config)#^Z
  C7507MIX#wr t
  Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
  ip classless
  no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
 
   I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in
config
file.  I
   mean (ip
   forward-protocol udp 67).
   Is that the way it is suppose to be?
  
   MADMAN wrote:
  
Check ip foward protocol
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:

 Hello
  How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know
that
  ip
  helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of
netbios
  services causes some problems for win nt server.  So
I
  guess
  to be more specific what can I do to forward udp
broadcast on
  ports 67 and 68 only?

  And another question that I have what exactly ip
  directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched
Cisco's
   web
  site but I never came across a clear defenition?

  Thanks,
  Alex

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which had
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   name

Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer
  NetBIOS (TCP/IP) Node Type
 Requested Option:   47  NetBIOS (TCP/IP) Scope
 Requested Option:   43  Vendor Specific Information
 Requested Option:   77  User Class Information
   DHCP Option End
 Option Code:255  End
Extra bytes (Padding):
   ...   00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Frame Check Sequence:  0x


Priscilla

At 05:12 PM 9/26/01, Wayne Wenthin wrote:
I am currently using this command on many routers ranging in ios from 10.2
(yeah I know but its a couple a hundred miles away) to 12.2.  Without it
our customers (we are an ISP) cannot reach the DHCP servers.  It must work
outside of the dialup only arena.


At 01:09 PM 9/26/2001, khramov wrote:
 Priscilla,
   I think that you are right about the ip dhcp-server command.  I looked
it
 up on Cisco's web site.  It seems
 that it can be used only with dial up to tell the client where dhcp server
 is.
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
 
   Yes, I finally found that also, but only in reference to dial-up
networks
   where the router is acting as an access sever for SLIP/PPP clients.
Does
it
   work elsewhere? It would be good if it did.
  
   Priscilla
  
   At 02:24 PM 9/26/01, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Their must be more than one way to foreword DHCP requests.
   
  
 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios121/121cgcr/d
  ial_r/drdreip.htm#xtocid1564817
   
   
   Tom got me looking into this earlier.
   
   -Eric
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 2:05 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]
   
   At 01:06 PM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 From my understanding ip dhcp-server command will enable upd
broadcast
 on  ports 66 and 67.  Is that true?
   
   It causes your router to BE a DHCP server and to accept and process
   broadcasts to UDP port 67 and to send responses from port 66. It does
not
   cause the router to forward UDP broadcasts to port 67.
   
   If you turn your router into a DHCP server, you would also have to
 identify
   an external File Transport Protocol (FTP), Trivial File Transfer
Protocol
   (TFTP), or remote copy protocol (rcp) server that you will use to
store
 the
   DHCP bindings database. The router will access that database. Here's
more
   info on turning your router into a DHCP server, which is often not a
good
   idea, in my opinion (because it detracts from the router's real jobs):
   
  
 
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios122/122cgcr/f
  ipr_c/ipcprt1/1cfdhcp.htm
   
   
   Priscilla
   
Alex


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought
you
already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and

ip forward-protocol udp 67
no ip forward-protocol 137
no ip forward-protocol 138

The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
   helper
address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
   configure
it to be more discerning.

Priscilla

At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
 Hello,
   ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen. 
So
 would you
 agree
   that the best solution for me would be to disable ip
directed
 broadcast, ip
   helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global
config?
   If
   I
 enable ip
   dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp
(ports
 66 and
 67)?
 
   Thanks a lot,
   Alex
 
 MADMAN wrote:
 
   Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507
with
 RSP8's and
   an MSFC2,
   they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the
 config.   So I
   figured they
   must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol
udp
 67
   and
   wallah, there it
   is!!!
  
   C7507MIX#conf t
   Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
   C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
   C7507MIX(config)#^Z
   C7507MIX#wr t
   Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
   ip classless
   no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
  
 Dave
  
   khramov wrote:
  
I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in
config
 file.  I
mean (ip
forward-protocol udp 67).
Is that the way it is suppose to be?
   
MADMAN wrote:
   
 Check ip foward protocol

   Dave

 khramov wrote:
 
  Hello
   How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know
that
   ip
   helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of
netbios
   services causes

Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Brian

Yeah I always thought the helper address command was the way to get a whole
bunch of nonroutable junk forwarded.

Bri

- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 4:03 PM
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


 OK, so I tried it. The ip dhcp-server command didn't do anything on my
 network, which is mostly Ethernet LANs. What good is it? ;-)

 I had to use ip helper-address on the interface where the client
resides.
 With that command, the DHCP messages got forwarded, whether I had ip
 dhcp-sever configured or not. Using just ip dhcp-server without the ip
 helper-address did not work, however. In that case, the DHCP messages did
 not get forwarded.

 Here's my config. The client is on the 36.1.1.0 network.

 I was sitting with my EtherPeek protocol analyzer on the 10.10.0.0
network.
 I could see the DHCP Discover come through to 10.10.0.1 whether I used ip
 dhcp-server 10.10.0.1 or not, as long as I did use ip helper-address
 10.10.0.1.

 charlotte#s run
 Building configuration...

 Current configuration:
 !
 version 11.0
 service udp-small-servers
 service tcp-small-servers
 !
 hostname charlotte
 !
 enable password 
 !
 ip dhcp-server 10.10.0.1 (also tried it without this)
 !
 interface Ethernet0
   ip address 10.10.0.2 255.255.255.0
 !
 interface Ethernet1
   ip address 36.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
   ip helper-address 10.10.0.1 (this is what really did the trick)
 !
 interface Serial0
   ip address 192.168.40.2 255.255.255.0
   no fair-queue
 !
 interface Serial1
   no ip address
   shutdown
 !
 interface TokenRing1
   no ip address
   shutdown
 !
 interface TokenRing0
   no ip address
   shutdown
 !
 router ospf 100
   network 192.168.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 2
   network 10.10.0.0 0.0.255.255 area 0
   network 36.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 2
 !
 line con 0
 line aux 0
   transport input all
 line vty 0 4
   password cisco
   login
 !
 end


 The DHCP Discover from the client that I captured might be informative for
 people learning about how DHCP Relay works. Notice that the packet is a
 unicast, rather than a broadcast. Also, notice at the IP layer that the
 source address is the router, not the client's 0.0.0.0 address that you
 normally see with DHCP. The router also put its address in the DHCP server
 under Gateway IP Address. The DHCP server needs to see this to know
which
 subnet the client's request came from.

 Ethernet Header
Destination:  00:00:0C:05:3E:80
Source:   00:00:0C:00:2E:75
Protocol Type:0x0800  IP
 IP Header - Internet Protocol Datagram
Version:  4
Header Length:5  (20  bytes)
Type of Service:  %
Precedence: Routine,   Normal Delay,   Normal Throughput,   Normal
 Reliability
Total Length: 328
Identifier:   12800
Fragmentation Flags:  %000  May Fragment   Last Fragment
Fragment Offset:  0  (0  bytes)
Time To Live: 127
Protocol: 17  UDP
Header Checksum:  0xD998
Source IP Address:36.1.1.1
Dest. IP Address: 10.10.0.1
No IP Options
 UDP - User Datagram Protocol
Source Port:  68  Bootstrap (BOOTP Client)
Destination Port: 67  Bootstrap Protocol Server
Length:   308
Checksum: 0x3159
 BootP - Bootstrap Protocol
Operation:1  Boot Request
Hardware Address Type:1  Ethernet (10Mb)
Hardware Address Length:  6  bytes
Hops: 0
Transaction ID:   678970121
Seconds Since Boot Start: 0
Flags:0x
IP Address Known By Client:   0.0.0.0  IP Address Not Known By Client
Client IP Addr Given By Srvr: 0.0.0.0
Server IP Address:0.0.0.0
Gateway IP Address:   36.1.1.1
Client Hardware Address:  00:E0:98:89:52:FA
Unused:   0x
Server Host Name:
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
Boot File Name:
  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
 DHCP - Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol
DHCP Magic Cookie:0x63825363
Message TypeDHCP Option
  Option Code:53  Message Type
  Option Length:  1
  Message Type:   1  Discover
Client IdentifierDHCP Option
  Option Code:61  Client Identifier
  Option Length:  7
  Hardware Type:  1
  Hardware Address:   00:E0:98:89:52:FA
Requested IP AddressDHCP Option
  Option Code:50  Requested IP Address
  Option Length:  4
  Address:36.1.1.2
Host Name AddressDHCP Option
  Option Code:12  Host Name Address
  Option Length:  8
  String: MACTEAM.
Vendor Class IdentifierDHCP Option
  Option Code:60  Vendor Class Identifier
  Option Length:  7
  Option Data:
MSFT 98   4D 53

Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 05:14 PM 9/26/01, Brian wrote:
Yeah I always thought the helper address command was the way to get a whole
bunch of nonroutable junk forwarded.

It gets a bunch of UDP broadcasts forwarded.

I figured out the ip dhcp-server command. It's not a replacement for ip 
helper-address. It's for access servers. It's only documented in access 
server documentation and documentation for the Gateway General Packet Radio 
Service (GPRS) Support Node (GGSN), whatever that is. The GGSN provides 
services to wireless devices, that much I know, and it's sort of an access 
server for the purposes of this discussion.

So dial-up users, wireless users, etc. reach the Internet or corporate 
intranet through the access server. With ip dhcp-server you can make sure 
the access server gives these users an IP address because it forwards their 
requests (or asks on its own) to a DHCP server. Note that if the DHCP 
server is not on the same LAN as the access server, then you need to 
configure ip helper-address on intermediate routers between the access 
server and DHCP server.

ip helper-address is also used for the more common situations, for example, 
when clients are on a different LAN than the DHCP server. ip dhcp-server 
didn't work in this case, per my previous message.

I'd love to hear any more uses for ip dhcp-server if they exist. I would 
think that access server could also mean a DSL or cable modem router, but 
I don't see any evidence of the ip dhcp-server command being documented 
for those environments.

(The command definitely doesn't turn the router into a DHCP server a I 
originally said, sorry. I feel sort of justified for that mistake, though 
since the other ip dhcp commands do that. ;-)

Priscilla


 Bri




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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-26 Thread Farhan Ahmed

i remember the only command i ut on the cisco router is

peer default ip address dhcp

and enable the ip helper address

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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OK, I'm starting to see where the confusion is coming from. The ip 
dhcp-server command can be used on dial-up PPP links. It specifies the IP 
address of a DHCP server for the PPP client to use. It was almost 
impossible to find in the documentation. Most of the ip dhcp commands 
relate to telling your router to be a DHCP server, which is a completely 
different solution, of course.

Are you using PPP, Khramov?

The general-purpose way to tell your router the address of your DHCP server 
is the ip helper-address command.

Priscilla

At 01:54 PM 9/26/01, Tim Booth wrote:
Priscilla and others:

Ip dhcp-server does not turn your router into a dhcp server. It tells your
router where your dhcp server is.

Tim Booth

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From: Priscilla Oppenheimer
To:
Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 12:12 PM
Subject: Re: DHCP [7:21051]


  Why do you want to turn your router into a DHCP server? I thought you
  already had a DHCP server. You just need a helper address and
 
  ip forward-protocol udp 67
  no ip forward-protocol 137
  no ip forward-protocol 138
 
  The last two commands are because you said that NetBIOS broadcast
  forwarding was causing problems for your NT server. When you have a
helper
  address, the router forwards a bunch of UDP packets. You have to
configure
  it to be more discerning.
 
  Priscilla
 
  At 09:24 AM 9/26/01, khramov wrote:
  Hello,
ip dhcp-server works,  I didn't specify it with a hyphen.  So
would
  you
  agree
that the best solution for me would be to disable ip directed
  broadcast, ip
helper address and enable ip dhcp-server at the global config?
If
I
  enable ip
dhcp-server do I need to enable ip forward-protocol udp  (ports
66
and
  67)?
  
Thanks a lot,
Alex
  
  MADMAN wrote:
  
Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with
RSP8's
  and
an MSFC2,
they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.
So
  I
figured they
must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67
and
wallah, there it
is!!!
   
C7507MIX#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
C7507MIX(config)#^Z
C7507MIX#wr t
Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
no ip forward-protocol udp bootps
   
  Dave
   
khramov wrote:
   
 I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config
file.
  I
 mean (ip
 forward-protocol udp 67).
 Is that the way it is suppose to be?

 MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that
ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I
guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp
broadcast
on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's
web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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RE: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

First Question answer:

c3640A(config)#ip forward-protocol udp ?
  Port number
  biff Biff (mail notification, comsat, 512)
  bootpc   Bootstrap Protocol (BOOTP) client (68)
  bootps   Bootstrap Protocol (BOOTP) server (67)
  discard  Discard (9)
  dnsixDNSIX security protocol auditing (195)
  domain   Domain Name Service (DNS, 53)
  echo Echo (7)
  isakmp   Internet Security Association and Key Management Protocol
(500)
  mobile-ipMobile IP registration (434)
  nameserver   IEN116 name service (obsolete, 42)
  netbios-dgm  NetBios datagram service (138)
  netbios-ns   NetBios name service (137)
  netbios-ss   NetBios session service (139)
  ntp  Network Time Protocol (123)
  pim-auto-rp  PIM Auto-RP (496)
  rip  Routing Information Protocol (router, in.routed, 520)
  snmp Simple Network Management Protocol (161)
  snmptrap SNMP Traps (162)
  sunrpc   Sun Remote Procedure Call (111)
  syslog   System Logger (514)
  tacacs   TAC Access Control System (49)
  talk Talk (517)
  tftp Trivial File Transfer Protocol (69)
  time Time (37)
  who  Who service (rwho, 513)
  xdmcpX Display Manager Control Protocol (177)
  


Second answer:

The way I understand the command, and please correct me if I am wrong, is as
follows.

It forwards subnet broadcasts to a destination network in a unicast format
and once the unicast packet is received on the destination network it is
then sent out as a broadcast. I think that is what it does.

Thanks,
Eric

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Subject: DHCP [7:21051]


Hello
 How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
 helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
 services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
 to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
 ports 67 and 68 only?

 And another question that I have what exactly ip
 directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
 site but I never came across a clear defenition?

 Thanks,
 Alex

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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-25 Thread MADMAN

Check ip foward protocol

  Dave

khramov wrote:
 
 Hello
  How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
  helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
  services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
  to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
  ports 67 and 68 only?
 
  And another question that I have what exactly ip
  directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
  site but I never came across a clear defenition?
 
  Thanks,
  Alex
 
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-25 Thread khramov

I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config file.  I
mean (ip
forward-protocol udp 67).
Is that the way it is suppose to be?


MADMAN wrote:

 Check ip foward protocol

   Dave

 khramov wrote:
 
  Hello
   How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
   helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
   services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
   to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
   ports 67 and 68 only?
 
   And another question that I have what exactly ip
   directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
   site but I never came across a clear defenition?
 
   Thanks,
   Alex
 
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-25 Thread Tim Booth

Alex,

  Ip dhcp server [address | name] will solve your problems (IOS 11.0 and
later). As far as the problems you're having with the NETBEUI traffic and ip
helper, you need to make sure you have protocol forwarding enabled, and
transparent or source-route bridging properly configured aka UDP flooding.
This solution is much more lengthy and cumbersome than the ip dhcp server
command for dhcp broadcast forwarding.

  As I found on the cisco site, with ip directed-broadcast the only
protocols that are forwarded are those that are specified with the ip
forward-protocol command. By default (IOS 12.0 and later), ip
directed-broadcast is disabled, and all directed ip broadcasts are dropped.
This command translates from directed broadcasts to physical broadcasts. I
think what is meant by a directed broadcast is a subnet (or possibly
multicast?) and a physical broadcast is meant as 255.255.255.255, and would
be forwarded out all interfaces (?).

Hope this helps,
Tim Booth

- Original Message -
From: khramov 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:57 PM
Subject: DHCP [7:21051]


 Hello
  How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
  helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
  services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
  to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
  ports 67 and 68 only?

  And another question that I have what exactly ip
  directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
  site but I never came across a clear defenition?

  Thanks,
  Alex




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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-25 Thread khramov

I am running 12.1 and I do not have a ip dhcp server (address).  Are you
suggesting to
configure my router as a DHCP server?  No, we have a win nt dhcp server
running.
Our win nt servers are reciving a lot of broadcasts because of some kind of
election for
a master browser (NT thing).  That means that our routers are passing
unnessary
broadcast.  I tried to specify broadcasts only for port 66 and 67 (dhcp
ports ) but it
is not showing up in my config, it could be enable by default.
Here is a copy of config on my router:
! Last configuration change at 16:27:46 cdt Tue Sep 25 2001
! NVRAM config last updated at 16:27:48 cdt Tue Sep 25 2001
!
version 12.1
service timestamps debug uptime
service timestamps log uptime
service password-encryption
clock timezone cst -6
clock summer-time cdt recurring
ip subnet-zero
ip cef
ip domain-name nsuok.edu
ip name-server 192.78.4.156
ip name-server 192.78.4.158
!
!
!
!
interface Vlan1
 description (vlan 1) Management Vlan
 ip address 172.16.1.1 255.255.0.0
 ip helper-address 192.173.45.15
 ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Vlan2
 description A
 ip address 172.17.1.1 255.255.0.0
 ip helper-address 192.173.45.15
 ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Vlan3
 description B
 ip address 172.18.1.1 255.255.0.0
 ip helper-address 192.173.45.15
 ip directed-broadcast
!
interface Vlan4
 description C
 ip address 172.19.1.1 255.255.0.0
 ip helper-address 192.78.4.47
 ip directed-broadcast
!


Tim Booth wrote:

 Alex,

   Ip dhcp server [address | name] will solve your problems (IOS 11.0 and
 later). As far as the problems you're having with the NETBEUI traffic and
ip
 helper, you need to make sure you have protocol forwarding enabled, and
 transparent or source-route bridging properly configured aka UDP flooding.
 This solution is much more lengthy and cumbersome than the ip dhcp server
 command for dhcp broadcast forwarding.

   As I found on the cisco site, with ip directed-broadcast the only
 protocols that are forwarded are those that are specified with the ip
 forward-protocol command. By default (IOS 12.0 and later), ip
 directed-broadcast is disabled, and all directed ip broadcasts are dropped.
 This command translates from directed broadcasts to physical broadcasts. I
 think what is meant by a directed broadcast is a subnet (or possibly
 multicast?) and a physical broadcast is meant as 255.255.255.255, and would
 be forwarded out all interfaces (?).

 Hope this helps,
 Tim Booth

 - Original Message -
 From: khramov
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 2:57 PM
 Subject: DHCP [7:21051]

  Hello
   How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
   helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
   services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
   to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
   ports 67 and 68 only?
 
   And another question that I have what exactly ip
   directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
   site but I never came across a clear defenition?
 
   Thanks,
   Alex

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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-25 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

You have to also do no ip forward-protocol for all the ones that you 
don't want forwarded. Cisco doesn't make it easy for you! ;-)

Priscilla

At 06:18 PM 9/25/01, khramov wrote:
I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config file.  I
mean (ip
forward-protocol udp 67).
Is that the way it is suppose to be?


MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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Re: DHCP [7:21051]

2001-09-25 Thread MADMAN

Hmm..  I haven't done it in a while so I tried it on a 7507 with RSP8's and
an MSFC2,
they both accepted the command just fine but are not in the config.   So I
figured they
must be enabled by default so I did a no ip forward protocol udp 67 and
wallah, there it
is!!!

C7507MIX#conf t
Enter configuration commands, one per line.  End with CNTL/Z.
C7507MIX(config)#no ip for
C7507MIX(config)#no ip forward-protocol udp 67
C7507MIX(config)#^Z
C7507MIX#wr t
Building configuration...ip kerberos source-interface any
ip classless
no ip forward-protocol udp bootps

  Dave

khramov wrote:

 I did that, but when I do sh run it is not showing up in config file.  I
 mean (ip
 forward-protocol udp 67).
 Is that the way it is suppose to be?

 MADMAN wrote:

  Check ip foward protocol
 
Dave
 
  khramov wrote:
  
   Hello
How do I enable broadcast for DHCP server?  I know that ip
helper enables UDP broadcast, but broadcast of netbios
services causes some problems for win nt server.  So I guess
to be more specific what can I do to forward udp broadcast on
ports 67 and 68 only?
  
And another question that I have what exactly ip
directed-broadcast command does?  I've searched Cisco's web
site but I never came across a clear defenition?
  
Thanks,
Alex
  
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