Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-12-15 Thread MikeS
You know that brothers always fight among themselves until the chips are
down.

We've helped each other back and forth over the years and not just in the
published accounts. There is much more in the black world that will never be
published.

We also have fought a war between us and  had countless snipping and
chestbeating.  Some of it I think is we are too much alike at times. Its
always easier to see your own faults in someone else then yourself.

MikeS

geek  wrote in message
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 Gaz  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...

 We're probably more on the same side than ever before and we still can't
 get
  on.


 Sure we can Gaz, that was a great reply  :^)

 we are all one huge family, it's a sin how we fight amongst each other...
 but what's even worse is the things we fight about...




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-24 Thread Gaz

We both know that, if not for the US,
 you'd be speaking German over there.

What d'ya mean?
My failing German at school was due to the Americans?
I'd always blamed it on a lack of interest and study time, but that does
make me feel a little better.

Which Indians we talking about here? Shall we go 50/50 on that one?

We're eternally grateful, and maybe one day soon we can help you out?
You help us with quantity, we help you with quality - Ouch!
We're probably more on the same side than ever before and we still can't get
on.

Gaz


nrf  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 As a Brit, you're going to lecture the United States on morality?  Excuse
 me, but let's ask, say, the Irish or the Indians about the vaunted British
 morality.   You know what they say about people who live in glass
houses...

 And besides, let's be honest here.  We both know that, if not for the US,
 you'd be speaking German over there.


  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Jim Bond
  Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:26 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: OT: you American need to think [7:38323]
 
 
  Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say
  this.
 
  Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you
  treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like
  sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your
  CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you
  respect him?
 
  There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on
  this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people
  too.
 
  I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you
  American need to think why he only attacks US, not
  Germany or Russia or Japan or others.
 
  Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor.
  Also remember that there are always someone richer and
  smarter than you.
 
  Over. Dismiss.
 
  Jim
 
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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-24 Thread geek

Gaz  wrote in message
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We're probably more on the same side than ever before and we still can't
get
 on.


Sure we can Gaz, that was a great reply  :^)

we are all one huge family, it's a sin how we fight amongst each other...
but what's even worse is the things we fight about...




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-23 Thread nrf

As a Brit, you're going to lecture the United States on morality?  Excuse
me, but let's ask, say, the Irish or the Indians about the vaunted British
morality.   You know what they say about people who live in glass houses...

And besides, let's be honest here.  We both know that, if not for the US,
you'd be speaking German over there.


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 Jim Bond
 Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:26 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: you American need to think [7:38323]


 Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say
 this.

 Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you
 treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like
 sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your
 CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you
 respect him?

 There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on
 this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people
 too.

 I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you
 American need to think why he only attacks US, not
 Germany or Russia or Japan or others.

 Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor.
 Also remember that there are always someone richer and
 smarter than you.

 Over. Dismiss.

 Jim

 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage
 http://sports.yahoo.com/




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RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-18 Thread William Gragido

That is an excellent point!  As if that diet coke will really help!
Pleaase!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
QOSMAN
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 7:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: you American need to think [7:38323]


Correctonly in America we order a double-cheese burger, large fries and
a Diet Coke
:)

Mike Sweeney wrote:

 I think you folks are missing a valuable point and lesson here.

 The real point has nothing to do with if *Jim* is correct, a flame baiter,
a
 pond scum commie or my best friend.. it does have everything to do with
 something that America is pretty unique about having for US living here.
THe
 ablility to say virtually ANYTHING you want without fear of the jackboot
 crowd coming to visit you and inform you of the error of your ways.
 Unintentionly *Jim* has reminded us.. or should remind us that America for
 all it's faults is still the one place that people to this day DIE to try
to
 get to. Why?  because Americans come close to being free in the true sense
 of the word. You can buy what you want, pick and choose what you want,
 sponge off your neighbors, have 8 SUVs, and SAY pretty much what you want.
 Oh, there may be repercussions of saying things.. but most times the
police
 are not going to shoot you down in the street(Kent State excepted) or have
 you *disappear*(watch of the unmarked black helicopters)

 So *Jim*.. bad mouth us all you want and personally I will enjoy the fact
 that I live in a place where I can read your rants, reply to them or
delete
 them without fear.

 Long live the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. May we remember  why
 they exist and people die for those beliefs.

 MikeS
 www.packetattack.com

 PS-- for those that seem to care.. I am neither Right or Left.. I happen
to
 Libertarian which puts me outside of the box :)




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Re: Way OT (Sorry) RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-16 Thread Gaz

Stop the bickering. The way you lot shoot, we in the middle could get hit
from both sides.



TALBOT, WILLIAM P (SWBT)  wrote in message
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 It's *Americans* - plural, as in lots of Americans, more than one, but
still
 one.  Many united, FOCUSED Americans.

 And by the way, we *are* thinking.  We are thinking about which parties
are
 going to be next in line to be recipients of the large amounts of
ordinance
 that will be dropped by our Air Force as an example of what happens to
 people who attack or support people who attack innocent civilians in
office
 buildings; or anywhere else for that matter.



 -Original Message-
 From: Jim Bond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:26 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: OT: you American need to think [7:38323]


 Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say
 this.

 Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you
 treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like
 sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your
 CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you
 respect him?

 There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on
 this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people
 too.

 I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you
 American need to think why he only attacks US, not
 Germany or Russia or Japan or others.

 Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor.
 Also remember that there are always someone richer and
 smarter than you.

 Over. Dismiss.

 Jim

 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage
 http://sports.yahoo.com/




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Persio Pucci

Hey, moderator, isn't it time to get to work a little?

tks

- Original Message -
From: Marc Maxwell 
To: 
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: you American need to think [7:38323]


 I agree with Kent.  James Bond here can go you-know-what himself as far as
 America is concerned.  I CERTAINLY didn't ask this idiot for political
 commentary, and MOST ESPECIALLY not of the anti-American variety!  And you
 want respect?  From me?  You are out of your mind!

 'Bond', or whatever your name is, keep your opinions to yourself.  This is
 NOT the forum to debate your evil thousand-year-old views.  They are
simply
 not debatable anyway.  You should know not to bring up a subject like
this.
 Is there a moderator here?  If not, there should be, for reasons like
this.

 There is a reason that so much technology and innovation comes from
America.
 Think about it.  Better yet, ask someone smarter than you (most
anyone)--to
 help you ponder why there aren't a lot of routers made in Afghanistan.

 Yeah, we Americans *ARE* thinking.  We are thinking real hard about
keeping
 SCUM of the earth like you off of American soil.  We are thinking real
hard
 about what makes this country the greatest one on earth.  People like you
 are just jealous of our freedoms here.
 Terrorrists DO NOT only attack the United States.  Terrorrism has been
 around for many years in many countries.  And yes, you ARE a waste of
 bandwith!

 God Bless the U.S.A.

 Marc




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Mike Sweeney

I think you folks are missing a valuable point and lesson here. 

The real point has nothing to do with if *Jim* is correct, a flame baiter, a
pond scum commie or my best friend.. it does have everything to do with
something that America is pretty unique about having for US living here. THe
ablility to say virtually ANYTHING you want without fear of the jackboot
crowd coming to visit you and inform you of the error of your ways.
Unintentionly *Jim* has reminded us.. or should remind us that America for
all it's faults is still the one place that people to this day DIE to try to
get to. Why?  because Americans come close to being free in the true sense
of the word. You can buy what you want, pick and choose what you want,
sponge off your neighbors, have 8 SUVs, and SAY pretty much what you want.
Oh, there may be repercussions of saying things.. but most times the police
are not going to shoot you down in the street(Kent State excepted) or have
you *disappear*(watch of the unmarked black helicopters)

So *Jim*.. bad mouth us all you want and personally I will enjoy the fact
that I live in a place where I can read your rants, reply to them or delete
them without fear.

Long live the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. May we remember  why
they exist and people die for those beliefs.

MikeS
www.packetattack.com

PS-- for those that seem to care.. I am neither Right or Left.. I happen to
Libertarian which puts me outside of the box :)


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RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Kelly Cobean

I am CC'ing [EMAIL PROTECTED] with this post...

I am requesting to the moderator(s) that Jim Bond be removed from this
list.  His clearly Anti-American sentiment, displayed in his continual
off-topic messages has no place here.  Much like my sentiment for
Americans who choose to burn the American Flag, if you don't like it,
feel free to go be righteous elsewhere.  I say to you, Jim Bond, since you
feel that America is so deserving of the cowardice directed at it on Sept
11th,... Cisco Systems, Inc. is an AMERICAN company.  Why do you choose to
support such a capitalist pig organization by representing it in whichever
country you live?  You are a hippocrit and a coward because the
certification you seek wouldn't exist if it weren't for us rude Americans,
so you have compromised your own values by participating in this forum.  I
for one, invite you to leave.  Your stereotypical beliefs that we American
(to quote you) are rich and rude (and whatever else you think warranted the
Sept. 11th attacks) makes you no better than a shallow racist.  While you
may have much good knowledge to contribute to this list that might benefit
others, the sentiment with which it is shared is unwelcome.  There may very
well be rude people on this list that haven't responded kindly to other's
posts, but your automatic association of their being rude to their being
American is unacceptable.





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jim Bond
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 7:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: you American need to think [7:38323]


Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say
this.

Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you
treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like
sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your
CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you
respect him?

There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on
this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people
too.

I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you
American need to think why he only attacks US, not
Germany or Russia or Japan or others.

Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor.
Also remember that there are always someone richer and
smarter than you.

Over. Dismiss.

Jim

__
Do You Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage
http://sports.yahoo.com/




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

While not wishing to lower the s/n ratio
and as a Welsh man living in England,

Thanks Paul and the moderators for all your hard work.

Best Regards,

Dom.


P.S. To make this relevant, has anyone tried 12.1(10)E4 on any platforms
yet?




   
  
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Hey, moderator, isn't it time to get to work a little?

tks

- Original Message -
From: Marc Maxwell
To:
Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: you American need to think [7:38323]


 I agree with Kent.  James Bond here can go you-know-what himself as far
as
 America is concerned.  I CERTAINLY didn't ask this idiot for political
 commentary, and MOST ESPECIALLY not of the anti-American variety!  And
you
 want respect?  From me?  You are out of your mind!

 'Bond', or whatever your name is, keep your opinions to yourself.  This
is
 NOT the forum to debate your evil thousand-year-old views.  They are
simply
 not debatable anyway.  You should know not to bring up a subject like
this.
 Is there a moderator here?  If not, there should be, for reasons like
this.

 There is a reason that so much technology and innovation comes from
America.
 Think about it.  Better yet, ask someone smarter than you (most
anyone)--to
 help you ponder why there aren't a lot of routers made in Afghanistan.

 Yeah, we Americans *ARE* thinking.  We are thinking real hard about
keeping
 SCUM of the earth like you off of American soil.  We are thinking real
hard
 about what makes this country the greatest one on earth.  People like you
 are just jealous of our freedoms here.
 Terrorrists DO NOT only attack the United States.  Terrorrism has been
 around for many years in many countries.  And yes, you ARE a waste of
 bandwith!

 God Bless the U.S.A.

 Marc




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread John Neiberger

Ah, a fellow Libertarian!  That's encouraging to see!  There are
probably about three of us on the list.  :-)  Of the card-carrying
variety, at least.

Okay, let's get back to some IT-related posts!

Regards,
John

 Mike Sweeney  3/15/02 7:13:30 AM 
I think you folks are missing a valuable point and lesson here. 

The real point has nothing to do with if *Jim* is correct, a flame
baiter, a
pond scum commie or my best friend.. it does have everything to do
with
something that America is pretty unique about having for US living
here. THe
ablility to say virtually ANYTHING you want without fear of the
jackboot
crowd coming to visit you and inform you of the error of your ways.
Unintentionly *Jim* has reminded us.. or should remind us that America
for
all it's faults is still the one place that people to this day DIE to
try to
get to. Why?  because Americans come close to being free in the true
sense
of the word. You can buy what you want, pick and choose what you want,
sponge off your neighbors, have 8 SUVs, and SAY pretty much what you
want.
Oh, there may be repercussions of saying things.. but most times the
police
are not going to shoot you down in the street(Kent State excepted) or
have
you *disappear*(watch of the unmarked black helicopters)

So *Jim*.. bad mouth us all you want and personally I will enjoy the
fact
that I live in a place where I can read your rants, reply to them or
delete
them without fear.

Long live the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. May we remember 
why
they exist and people die for those beliefs.

MikeS
www.packetattack.com 

PS-- for those that seem to care.. I am neither Right or Left.. I
happen to
Libertarian which puts me outside of the box :)




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Ndabarasa Michel

you are right Mr/Mrs Pucci!
i believe most of us subscribed to this list so as to get
clues from those who know.Not for political opinions.
though i know i have the right to agree/disagree with
anybody in the list,if i had political opinion i d rather
write to BBC(World Service) or CNN(Larry King in QA for
example) just to make sure i am talking to the right
audience and i make myself heard.

otherwise the noise/signal ratio will keep growing painfully
for some of us not interested in the topic. 

God bless all of us instead.




On Fri, 15 Mar 2002 07:04:23 -0500
 Persio Pucci  wrote:
 Hey, moderator, isn't it time to get to work a little?
 
 tks
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Marc Maxwell 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, March 15, 2002 5:00 AM
 Subject: Re: you American need to think [7:38323]
 
 
  I agree with Kent.  James Bond here can go
 you-know-what himself as far as
  America is concerned.  I CERTAINLY didn't ask this
 idiot for political
  commentary, and MOST ESPECIALLY not of the
 anti-American variety!  And you
  want respect?  From me?  You are out of your mind!
 
  'Bond', or whatever your name is, keep your opinions to
 yourself.  This is
  NOT the forum to debate your evil thousand-year-old
 views.  They are
 simply
  not debatable anyway.  You should know not to bring up
 a subject like
 this.
  Is there a moderator here?  If not, there should be,
 for reasons like
 this.
 
  There is a reason that so much technology and
 innovation comes from
 America.
  Think about it.  Better yet, ask someone smarter than
 you (most
 anyone)--to
  help you ponder why there aren't a lot of routers made
 in Afghanistan.
 
  Yeah, we Americans *ARE* thinking.  We are thinking
 real hard about
 keeping
  SCUM of the earth like you off of American soil.  We
 are thinking real
 hard
  about what makes this country the greatest one on
 earth.  People like you
  are just jealous of our freedoms here.
  Terrorrists DO NOT only attack the United States.
 Terrorrism has been
  around for many years in many countries.  And yes, you
 ARE a waste of
  bandwith!
 
  God Bless the U.S.A.
 
  Marc
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RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread William Gragido

What in hell's bells does this have to do with studying Internetworking
technologies?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Scott H.
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:52 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: you American need to think [7:38323]


Crawl back into that hole you came out of.  Nobody wants to listen to your
B.S.

Jim Bond  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say
 this.

 Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you
 treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like
 sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your
 CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you
 respect him?

 There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on
 this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people
 too.

 I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you
 American need to think why he only attacks US, not
 Germany or Russia or Japan or others.

 Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor.
 Also remember that there are always someone richer and
 smarter than you.

 Over. Dismiss.

 Jim

 __
 Do You Yahoo!?
 Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage
 http://sports.yahoo.com/




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

While not wishing to lower the s/n ratio
and as a Welsh man living in England,

Thanks Paul and the moderators for all your hard work.

Best Regards,

Dom.


As a moderator, I wonder if there is a Welsh version of the CLI, 
which has vowels turned off. :-)


P.S. To make this relevant, has anyone tried 12.1(10)E4 on any platforms
yet?




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Re: Cat/CAT: was RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Gaz

Howard. What time do you start drinking on a Friday?   :-)

One day I'll have a job that allows me to start that early...One day!




Howard C. Berkowitz  wrote in message
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 Here's my advice:  The next time you feel the need to express your
opinions,
 buy a dog. I'm sure it will be happy to listen to whatever topics you
wish
 to expound on. (or a cat, hamster, whooping crane, or whatever pet seems
 best for you)  Perhaps you can even get them an email and send them
messages
 if you can't restrain your idle hands.


 While my cat, Clifford, is indeed a good listener, he has no useful
 opinions on Cat switches. He does understand controlling tail
 circuits.




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Marc Maxwell

Well then I guess I am #3!  But this is ridiculous.  And cisco/routing has
NOTHING to do with political views!!Mike has made some good points here, but
the overriding one is that it is inappropriate to bring up this crap in a
forum like this!  That is my main point!  Moderator?

Marc




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Re: Cat/CAT: was RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Howard. What time do you start drinking on a Friday?   :-)

One day I'll have a job that allows me to start that early...One day!

I ought to be drinking something. I'm off to the IETF in Minneapolis 
on Saturday night, and, last heard, there was already 14 inches of 
snow and more falling. Luckily, there are walkways between the 
meeting hotel and where I'm staying.

My feline assistant, unfortunately, will not be with me.

But this cat is telecommunications-literate. He is the only cat I 
know that made obscene telephone calls.





Howard C. Berkowitz  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Here's my advice:  The next time you feel the need to express your
opinions,
  buy a dog. I'm sure it will be happy to listen to whatever topics you
wish
  to expound on. (or a cat, hamster, whooping crane, or whatever pet seems
  best for you)  Perhaps you can even get them an email and send them
messages
  if you can't restrain your idle hands.


  While my cat, Clifford, is indeed a good listener, he has no useful
  opinions on Cat switches. He does understand controlling tail
  circuits.




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RE: Cat/CAT: was RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Hartnell, George

I had a cat named Five once,

but he had an unfortunate collision



Yes.it is Friday.  

Best, G.




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Re: Cat/CAT: was RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Rohm Marti

Isn't it time we all stopped playing with these pretty green boxes and 
started considering the liquid variety instead? I can't believe I'm still 
standing after 4 WAN catastrophes this week. But not for long I tell ya!!  =)

Slainte peoples! *hic* (provider bought us beers for lunch to make up for 
horrible week)


Double-fisting-Chicago-lush-boy Rohm


At 03:29 PM 3/15/2002 -0500, Gaz wrote:
Howard. What time do you start drinking on a Friday?   :-)

One day I'll have a job that allows me to start that early...One day!




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Re: Cat/CAT: was RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread Tom Lisa

Oh dear, that must have been catastrophic.
Sorry, couldn't help myself (It's still Friday).

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy

Hartnell, George wrote:

 I had a cat named Five once,

 but he had an unfortunate collision

 Yes.it is Friday.

 Best, G.




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread QOSMAN

Correctonly in America we order a double-cheese burger, large fries and
a Diet Coke
:)

Mike Sweeney wrote:

 I think you folks are missing a valuable point and lesson here.

 The real point has nothing to do with if *Jim* is correct, a flame baiter,
a
 pond scum commie or my best friend.. it does have everything to do with
 something that America is pretty unique about having for US living here.
THe
 ablility to say virtually ANYTHING you want without fear of the jackboot
 crowd coming to visit you and inform you of the error of your ways.
 Unintentionly *Jim* has reminded us.. or should remind us that America for
 all it's faults is still the one place that people to this day DIE to try
to
 get to. Why?  because Americans come close to being free in the true sense
 of the word. You can buy what you want, pick and choose what you want,
 sponge off your neighbors, have 8 SUVs, and SAY pretty much what you want.
 Oh, there may be repercussions of saying things.. but most times the police
 are not going to shoot you down in the street(Kent State excepted) or have
 you *disappear*(watch of the unmarked black helicopters)

 So *Jim*.. bad mouth us all you want and personally I will enjoy the fact
 that I live in a place where I can read your rants, reply to them or delete
 them without fear.

 Long live the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. May we remember  why
 they exist and people die for those beliefs.

 MikeS
 www.packetattack.com

 PS-- for those that seem to care.. I am neither Right or Left.. I happen to
 Libertarian which puts me outside of the box :)




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Way OT (Sorry) RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-15 Thread TALBOT, WILLIAM P (SWBT)

It's *Americans* - plural, as in lots of Americans, more than one, but still
one.  Many united, FOCUSED Americans.  

And by the way, we *are* thinking.  We are thinking about which parties are
going to be next in line to be recipients of the large amounts of ordinance
that will be dropped by our Air Force as an example of what happens to
people who attack or support people who attack innocent civilians in office
buildings; or anywhere else for that matter.



-Original Message-
From: Jim Bond [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 6:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: you American need to think [7:38323]


Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say
this.

Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you
treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like
sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your
CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you
respect him? 

There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on
this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people
too.

I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you
American need to think why he only attacks US, not
Germany or Russia or Japan or others.

Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor.
Also remember that there are always someone richer and
smarter than you. 

Over. Dismiss.

Jim

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RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-14 Thread Kent Hundley

Jim,

I normally ignore these sorts of wy OT posts, however

I am so glad that individuals such as yourself feel that you can better the
lives of all of us morally degenerate Americans by instructing us on the
proper rules of life and giving us s much to think about.

I am so glad that individuals such as yourself can stand at a distance and
offer your opinions and advice to those of us who are obviously in so dire a
need for it since you, wherever your from, have _such_ an obviously superior
country since you have not had planes drop out of your sky into large
buildings full of innocent people.

Allow me to reciprocate.

Here's my advice:  The next time you feel the need to express your opinions,
buy a dog. I'm sure it will be happy to listen to whatever topics you wish
to expound on. (or a cat, hamster, whooping crane, or whatever pet seems
best for you)  Perhaps you can even get them an email and send them messages
if you can't restrain your idle hands.

Till then, try keeping your non-Cisco related opinions to yourself.  I, for
one, have had about as much Monday morning quarterbacking from non-Americans
on this topic as I can stomach in this life, especially on mailing lists
which have NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH THIS BS!

Warmest regards,
Kent

PS Apologies to the list members for the OT post

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Jim Bond
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 4:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: OT: you American need to think [7:38323]


Sorry for wasting your bandwidth, but I have to say
this.

Being rich is good; being smart is good. But if you
treat others like sxxt, others will treat you like
sxxt too. Think about this: if you are a CCNA and your
CCIE co-worker say your stupid or dumb, will you
respect him?

There are so many knowledgeable and friendly people on
this list, but there are some rude and arrogant people
too.

I agree that Bin Laden is a murderer, an evil, but you
American need to think why he only attacks US, not
Germany or Russia or Japan or others.

Show some respect to others, it won't make you poor.
Also remember that there are always someone richer and
smarter than you.

Over. Dismiss.

Jim

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Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage
http://sports.yahoo.com/




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Cat/CAT: was RE: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Here's my advice:  The next time you feel the need to express your opinions,
buy a dog. I'm sure it will be happy to listen to whatever topics you wish
to expound on. (or a cat, hamster, whooping crane, or whatever pet seems
best for you)  Perhaps you can even get them an email and send them messages
if you can't restrain your idle hands.


While my cat, Clifford, is indeed a good listener, he has no useful 
opinions on Cat switches. He does understand controlling tail 
circuits.




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Re: you American need to think [7:38323]

2002-03-14 Thread Marc Maxwell

I agree with Kent.  James Bond here can go you-know-what himself as far as
America is concerned.  I CERTAINLY didn't ask this idiot for political
commentary, and MOST ESPECIALLY not of the anti-American variety!  And you
want respect?  From me?  You are out of your mind!

'Bond', or whatever your name is, keep your opinions to yourself.  This is
NOT the forum to debate your evil thousand-year-old views.  They are simply
not debatable anyway.  You should know not to bring up a subject like this.
Is there a moderator here?  If not, there should be, for reasons like this.

There is a reason that so much technology and innovation comes from America.
Think about it.  Better yet, ask someone smarter than you (most anyone)--to
help you ponder why there aren't a lot of routers made in Afghanistan.

Yeah, we Americans *ARE* thinking.  We are thinking real hard about keeping
SCUM of the earth like you off of American soil.  We are thinking real hard
about what makes this country the greatest one on earth.  People like you
are just jealous of our freedoms here.
Terrorrists DO NOT only attack the United States.  Terrorrism has been
around for many years in many countries.  And yes, you ARE a waste of
bandwith!

God Bless the U.S.A.

Marc




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