Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread John Neiberger
You've got it! They can be used for iBGP, DNS resolution, GRE tunnel
endpoints, OSPF/BGP Router IDs, route summarization...the list goes on.

 Robert Edmonds 8/5/03 3:26:35 PM 
So, if I understand correctly, aside from OSPF router ID's and the like,
just use a loopback interface when you want an always up/up interface.
That's pretty simple.

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 Exactly right. Sometimes it's nice to have a virtual interface whose
status
 is not tied directly to a physical interface. We've mentioned several
 configurations where this is the case. From the routers perspective it
may
 have a couple of special properties, since it's virtual, but it's still
just
 another interface, as Dave said.

  MADMAN 8/5/03 1:25:25 PM 
 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

Dave

 Robert Edmonds wrote:
  You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
  However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody
solidly
  explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can
understand.
 I
  have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish
this.
  Any takers?
 
  Robert
 
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread MADMAN
Dom wrote:
 OK Let me have a go at this - 
 
 A router by definition has at least two interfaces, in most cases it has
 many more. 
 
 How do we define the ip address of the router? 
 
 Is it an Ethernet (LAN facing) interface or a (for example) Serial, HSSI
 or other WAN facing interface?
 
 If any of these interfaces goes down (fails) then we cannot get to the
 router. 
 
 This is why we set a loopback interface address - nothing to do with
 routing or metrics etc, just making sure that we can reach the router 

   You won't get to the router no matter how many loopbacks you have 
if your phyical connection/s fail!!! :)

   Dave

 
 Best regards,
 
 Dom Stocqueler
 SysDom Technologies
 Visit our website - www.sysdom.org
 
 
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 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another
 
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.
 
Dave
 
 Robert Edmonds wrote:
 
You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 
 
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody 
solidly explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can 
understand.  I have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that
 
 
accomplish this. Any takers?

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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Edmonds
Rusty, was there a URL here that was truncated?  If so, I would very much
like to see it.  n_guide_chapter09186a0080087da4.html#3302

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 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
n_guide_chapter09186a0080087da4.html#3302

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You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
Any takers?

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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Dom
Thanks Dave,

I know - but if you are relying on just the address of just an interface
on a router with many WAN/LAN connections, you may have another way of
reaching it. Which was the point I was trying to make. When monitoring a
network do not assume a router is down just because a link/interface is
down.

All the best.


Dom


Dom wrote:
 OK Let me have a go at this -
 
 A router by definition has at least two interfaces, in most cases it 
 has many more.
 
 How do we define the ip address of the router?
 
 Is it an Ethernet (LAN facing) interface or a (for example) Serial, 
 HSSI or other WAN facing interface?
 
 If any of these interfaces goes down (fails) then we cannot get to the

 router.
 
 This is why we set a loopback interface address - nothing to do with 
 routing or metrics etc, just making sure that we can reach the router

   You won't get to the router no matter how many loopbacks you have 
if your phyical connection/s fail!!! :)

   Dave

 
 Best regards,
 
 Dom Stocqueler
 SysDom Technologies
 Visit our website - www.sysdom.org
 
 
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 Of MADMAN
 Sent: 05 August 2003 19:47
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 Subject: Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]
 
 
 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just
another
 
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.
 
Dave
 
 Robert Edmonds wrote:
 
You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 
 
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody
solidly explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can 
understand.  I have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that
 
 
accomplish this. Any takers?

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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Robert Edmonds
So, if I understand correctly, aside from OSPF router ID's and the like,
just use a loopback interface when you want an always up/up interface.
That's pretty simple.

John Neiberger  wrote in message
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 Exactly right. Sometimes it's nice to have a virtual interface whose
status
 is not tied directly to a physical interface. We've mentioned several
 configurations where this is the case. From the routers perspective it may
 have a couple of special properties, since it's virtual, but it's still
just
 another interface, as Dave said.

  MADMAN 8/5/03 1:25:25 PM 
 I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is
 nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical
 interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another
 interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

Dave

 Robert Edmonds wrote:
  You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
  However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody
solidly
  explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.
 I
  have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
  Any takers?
 
  Robert
 
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-14 Thread Reimer, Fred
It's very simple.  A loopback interface provides a connection point on a
router that is not tied to a physical interface.  It is very useful in many
situations, for basically the same reason.  Take OSPF for example.  Without
a loopback it will use the address of one of its physical interfaces for the
routerID (unless you force it).  If that interface was to go down, then the
OSPF process would burp, and you'd have problems.  Using a loopback
interface will ensure the same routerID no matter what the physical
interfaces were doing.  Take management traffic for example.  Typical
management applications use SNMP to poll the router for interface
statistics, etc.  If you polled on the primary WAN interface, for example a
T1 line, and that T1 went down, then you would not be able to retrieve any
statistics at all, even if you had a backup ISDN line on the router.

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You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-07 Thread John Neiberger
Exactly right. Sometimes it's nice to have a virtual interface whose status
is not tied directly to a physical interface. We've mentioned several
configurations where this is the case. From the routers perspective it may
have a couple of special properties, since it's virtual, but it's still just
another interface, as Dave said.

 MADMAN 8/5/03 1:25:25 PM 
I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another 
interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

   Dave

Robert Edmonds wrote:
 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
 explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand. 
I
 have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-06 Thread Dom
OK Let me have a go at this - 

A router by definition has at least two interfaces, in most cases it has
many more. 

How do we define the ip address of the router? 

Is it an Ethernet (LAN facing) interface or a (for example) Serial, HSSI
or other WAN facing interface?

If any of these interfaces goes down (fails) then we cannot get to the
router. 

This is why we set a loopback interface address - nothing to do with
routing or metrics etc, just making sure that we can reach the router 

Best regards,

Dom Stocqueler
SysDom Technologies
Visit our website - www.sysdom.org


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I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another

interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

   Dave

Robert Edmonds wrote:
 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.

 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody 
 solidly explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can 
 understand.  I have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that

 accomplish this. Any takers?
 
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-05 Thread Robert Edmonds
You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
Any takers?

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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-08-05 Thread MADMAN
I think your thinking way too hard about this;)  A loobback is 
nothing more than a logical interface as opposed to a physical 
interface.  As far as the routing process is concerned it's just another 
interface.  Don't know how to articulate it any further.

   Dave

Robert Edmonds wrote:
 You gentlemen have pointed out some good uses for loopback interfaces.
 However, my dilema still remains that I have yet to have somebody solidly
 explain loopback interfaces in a way that my simple mind can understand.  I
 have also been unsuccessful in finding any website that accomplish this.
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

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Re: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread MADMAN
when doing unnumbered interfaces
   routing via loopbacks. Virtual templates, dialer interfaces etc...
   I use loopbacks for many testing reasons.
   load balancing and redundancy via BGP
   use as peer in DLSW for redundancy/stability
   generate routes

   Those are a couple I can think of off the top of me noodle

   Dave


DeVoe, Charles (PKI) wrote:
 I know the loopback interface is useful for assigning the router ID.  Is
 there any other purpose?
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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread Larry Letterman
To monitor the router, since its up/up if the router is up.



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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread Daniel Cotts
1) It's an interface that never goes down.
2) It has a neat use in a situation where you have a VPN router-to-router
and are using NAT. You may have a server that uses a static NAT to allow
access from outside. To allow traffic from the server to traverse the VPN
tunnel - use a route-map to bounce the VPN traffic off an address in the
subnet of the loopback interface (which has no NAT statements).
3) In labs a small router can source many routes.

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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread Wilmes, Rusty
our remote routers are configured to do ddr through the loopback interface.

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To monitor the router, since its up/up if the router is up.



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RE: Loopback Interface [7:73305]

2003-07-31 Thread John Neiberger
Loopbacks are handy for use with ip unnumbered. If you have a multipoint
interface using subinterfaces you could give every subinterface the same
address and keep everything on the same subnet.

They're also handy for DNS. If your router hostname resolves to its loopback
address you'll be able to reach the router using the hostname as long as
there is at least one real interface up. If you were to resolve the name to
an actual interface address you wouldn't be able to reach the router at all
of that interface were down.

John

 Wilmes, Rusty 7/31/03 4:49:11 PM 
our remote routers are configured to do ddr through the loopback interface.

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To monitor the router, since its up/up if the router is up.



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Re: Loopback interface [7:20949]

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8000 MB



 Hi all,
 What is the default speed of a loopback interface on a Cisco router?
 Thanks,
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RE: Loopback interface [7:20949]

2001-09-24 Thread Albert Y. Pak

Ah, cool, thanks! Actually, I just found out the answer myself as well.

Loopback0 is up, line protocol is up 
  Hardware is Loopback
  Internet address is 10.1.11.6/32
  MTU 1514 bytes, BW 800 Kbit, DLY 5000 usec, 
 reliability 255/255, txload 1/255, rxload 1/255

Thanks again.
Albert


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 What is the default speed of a loopback interface on a Cisco router?
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:16174]

2001-08-15 Thread Kevin Welch

16.htm#xtocid1566416

From CCO:

You can specify a software-only interface called a loopback interface that
emulates an interface that is always up. A loopback interface is a virtual
interface that allows BGP and RSRB sessions to stay up even if the outbound
interface is down, and is supported on all platforms.

You can use the loopback interface as the termination address for BGP
sessions, for RSRB connections, or for establishing a Telnet session from
the communication server's console to its auxiliary port when all other
interfaces are down. In applications where other communication servers will
attempt to reach this loopback interface, you should configure a routing
protocol to distribute the subnet assigned to the loopback address.

Packets routed to the loopback interface are rerouted back to the box and
processed locally. IP packets routed out the loopback interface but not
destined to the loopback interface are dropped. This means the loopback
interface also serves as the Null 0 interface.

-- Kevin


 Would you please explain me in simple terms what is loopback interface?
 One of the techs from our ISP told me to config my router for loopback
 interface instead of multilink interface so that he would push the
 config to my router.  He also told me that multilink requires high CPU
 usage.  Would you please give me your opinion on this.
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Re: Loopback Interface [7:16174]

2001-08-15 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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A loopback interface is a virtual interface you can configure on any router 
and has an 'always-up characteristic as recognized by the router itself.  
This makes it the most stable route of choice to be advertised by, say,
OSPF,
which, as a rule advertises the route with the highest physical # , or, if 
there are loopback interfaces that are configured and can be used, it ALWAYS 
uses loopback interfaces because of their stability and dependability on 
carrying the route advertisement.
Hth,
Rob H.

 Would you please explain me in simple terms what is loopback interface?
 One of the techs from our ISP told me to config my router for loopback
 interface instead of multilink interface so that he would push the
 config to my router.  He also told me that multilink requires high CPU
 usage.  Would you please give me your opinion on this.
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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Vincent Chong

By the way, cisco has new command can control the router id under ospf
router configuration.

router-id x.w.y.z (in ip address format)

Vincent Chong

Brad McConnell   There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in
their own area unless
 you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
 network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is
definitely
 a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your RIDs
 (used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable, meaningfull
 addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the
OSPF
 domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on the
 router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as
shown
 in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...

 -Brad McConnell

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   For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
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  But what purpose, when should I do it?
 
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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Circusnuts



Couple off the top of my head:

OSPF Area router ID

If you're running OSPF as your IGP in a hub/spoke type topology, you'd want
BGP sourced on an interface that doesn't have a potential to go down.

Phil


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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Carroll Kong

At 01:16 AM 5/17/01 -0400, Vincent Chong wrote:
Hi;

  For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
interface.
But what purpose, when should I do it?

TIA
Vincent Chong

Well, somewhat off topic, but the router id will lock on to the loopback 
address, which might stabilize the network more.  However, I think you even 
wrote to the list an email about that so that probably is not what you are 
asking.

Now why would you want to advertise a loopback interface using OSPF or any 
IGP?  To teach the IGP how to get their later on for redistribution into 
BGP.  Basically only used if you need to use an AS as a transit AS.  You 
have basically two choices.

IBGP (full mesh) to the ASBRs of the transit AS.  Or, you can redistribute 
the transit route through an IGP instead.  They tend to use loopback 
interfaces to help the transit ASs achieve more stability to avoid 
flappage.  I am somewhat new on this, so if I am wrong, I will happily 
defer to someone with more experience, but this is my take on it from what 
I have read.



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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-17 Thread Peter Van Oene

You're pretty much there.  To clarify, transit AS's use only fully meshed
IBGP (assuming scalability techniques like Route Reflection and
Confederations also in use) and usually peer internally via loopback
addresses for stability and as you correctly point out, use the IGP to
distribute reachability information for those loopbacks.  Using IGP only
routers for transit might have worked at some point years ago, but simply
doesn't cut it anymore due to the sheer volume of paths in the internet.

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On 5/17/2001 at 10:04 AM Carroll Kong wrote:

At 01:16 AM 5/17/01 -0400, Vincent Chong wrote:
Hi;

  For OSPF implementation, an area can be configured in the Loopback
interface.
But what purpose, when should I do it?

TIA
Vincent Chong

Well, somewhat off topic, but the router id will lock on to the loopback 
address, which might stabilize the network more.  However, I think you
even 
wrote to the list an email about that so that probably is not what you are 
asking.

Now why would you want to advertise a loopback interface using OSPF or any 
IGP?  To teach the IGP how to get their later on for redistribution into 
BGP.  Basically only used if you need to use an AS as a transit AS.  You 
have basically two choices.

IBGP (full mesh) to the ASBRs of the transit AS.  Or, you can redistribute 
the transit route through an IGP instead.  They tend to use loopback 
interfaces to help the transit ASs achieve more stability to avoid 
flappage.  I am somewhat new on this, so if I am wrong, I will happily 
defer to someone with more experience, but this is my take on it from what 
I have read.



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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-16 Thread Brad McConnell

There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in their own area unless
you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is definitely
a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your RIDs
(used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable, meaningfull
addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the OSPF
domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on the
router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as shown
in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...

-Brad McConnell

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Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]

2001-05-16 Thread CCNP

Brad is very correct on the use of Loopback interface in OSPF.

1. Loopback interface is more stable than any other physical interface.
Catch here is OSPF will continue to use a RID learned from a physical
interface even if the interface subsequently fails. So nothing great about
this advantage.

2. Admin's can assign RID in a more controlled way because RID's can belong
to same network/subnet across the entire OSPF domain. This is the main
advantage of using Loopback interface in OSPF.

Brijesh

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Subject: Re: Loopback interface for OSPF [7:4802]


 There's not much point in putting the loopbacks in their own area unless
 you're in a lab scenario and trying to make a bigger, more complicated
 network.  ..At least not that I can think of.  However, there is
definitely
 a usefulness for loopback interfaces in OSPF -- use them to set your RIDs
 (used to indentify the router in OSPF LSA's) to controllable, meaningfull
 addresses.  This doesn't even require that the loopbacks be part of the
OSPF
 domain, just that they be configured and up.  Highest loopback IP on the
 router will be the OSPF RID of any LSA's generated by that router (as
shown
 in commands such as show ip ospf neighbor, etc)...

 -Brad McConnell

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Re: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-06 Thread Alex Boh

Though I do not have an in-depth knowledge in loopback interface. I would
like to add on a bit of my experience working on it.

I have tried  to configure a loopback interface for NAT kind of config (For
Internet access ) with the interface as ip nat outside. It did not work.
Eventually, I have to remove it and put the nat outside statement into my
E0.(E1 is my ip nat inside)Surprising that works!!

I was told that loopback interface is only for intranet configuration. Is
this really true, I am not so sure?? :)Well that's was my experience

regards


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 I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes their
 examples use /32 IP address like :

 interface loopback 0
 ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

 Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
 address in the configuration ?
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Re: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread Alex Lee

Group,

I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes their
examples use /32 IP address like :

interface loopback 0
ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
address in the configuration ?
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Re: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread dre

Reasons.  Plural.

1. This is a loopback interface.  It is always up.  Which means, if you
statically
or dynamically make this /32 host route accessible via anywhere in the
network,
you can connect via IP to this address instead of each regular interface
(serial and ethernet interfaces go down).  So as long as one of your regular
interfaces are up, you can reach the router via this loopback address.  This
could be especially useful for telnet/ssh remote access, snmp, and icmp
testing/troubleshooting/managing of a router.

2. Router-id in routing protocols is determined by the highest loopback
address
(assuming that one is configured).

3. You can use `ip unnumbered' to a loopback address.

I'm sure there are other reasons, but those three are good enough for me.

-dre

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 examples use /32 IP address like :

 interface loopback 0
 ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

 Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
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RE: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread Moe Tavakoli

A loopback interface is basically ina network of it's own.  it is not
connected to another Interface nor does it particcipate in the transport of
data (in it's normal form atleast.)  However it is used (specially in a
dynamic routing enviro) as a "reliable Interface" since it would be
available as long as at least one interface on the unit is up.  
Now for the /32 mask.  Well why waste more IPs than needed.  All you need is
1 is this "broadcast domain" there is nothing else connected to this
interface physically. 

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 Group,

 I was looking at some documents at CCO, and noticed that sometimes
their
 examples use /32 IP address like :

 interface loopback 0
 ip address 172.16.254.3  255.255.255.255

 Can someone help me to understand reason behind in using this type of
 address in the configuration ?
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RE: Loopback interface IP address

2001-04-05 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

A loopback interface is basically ina network of it's own.  it is not
connected to another Interface nor does it particcipate in the transport of
data (in it's normal form atleast.)  However it is used (specially in a
dynamic routing enviro) as a "reliable Interface" since it would be
available as long as at least one interface on the unit is up. 
Now for the /32 mask.  Well why waste more IPs than needed.  All you need is
1 is this "broadcast domain" there is nothing else connected to this
interface physically.

OSPF has special treatment for /32 host routes, so I tend not to use 
them for loopbacks -- the entries in the link state database can look 
weird otherwise. I've also seen some weirdnesses with /30, so I'm apt 
to use a /29 subnet.

I wouldn't want my loopback addresses accessible from the public 
internet, so I will use private space -- and am not very worried 
about conserving it.
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Re: loopback interface adsressing

2001-04-04 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Hello,
 I had heard a lot about using the loopback interface for router ID for
OSPF, etc... because it never goes down. However, my question is about the
addressing of this interface, and whether I can assign an IP from the same
subnet to a loopback interface on a neighboring router, or I have to assign
a separate subnet on each router?

Yes. I'm conservative, and will assign it a prefix no longer than /29 
to avoid odd effects if a routing protocol makes assumptions about 
point-to-point or hsot interfaces.  /32 should work, but doesn't in 
all releass.

Since you don't want your routers to be reachable from the outside 
world, use private address space for the loopbacks. Address 
conservation then doesn't become an issue.  I frequently start 
numbering loopback addresses  in 192.198.255.0/24 and work down.

and then how would this subnet be
reachable? I mean how would I advertise it in the routing protocol??

Just like any other subnet.

Thank you
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RE: Loopback Interface

2001-03-08 Thread Nathan Chessin

just create a virtual interface and give it an ip address and mask.  Not you
should be able to ping it etc.  command to do this:

router(config)#interface loopback number   where number is 0 - big number
router(config-if)#ip address address subnet_mask

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Hi,

Could we use loopback interface for troubleshooting purposes and how?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Loopback interface

2001-02-20 Thread Chris Haller

The loopback interface is used within OSPF
configurations to enable an administrator to control
the Router ID's.  OSPF bases it's DR and BDR elections
and other aspects of configuration on the Highest
Router ID assigned within an AS.  By choosing to
assign a higher RID, which in this case is simply an
IP address, to a loopback interface, OSPF will choose
the loopback, if it exists, over any physical
interface no matter if the RID is higher on the
physical interface.


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Re: Loopback interface

2001-02-18 Thread Jason Fletcher

There is some info about the loopback interface in this document.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/inter
_c/iclogint.htm#xtocid119671

watch for word wrap.

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RE: Loopback Interface

2000-09-25 Thread Yee, Jason

loopback interface is an always up interface and it will not go down since
it is a virtual interface unlike physical interfaces which may be physically
down sometimes.

It is not necessary to use loopback for a point-to-point connection but you
are advised to use probably because it will be more reliable to map
frame-relay dlci no to loopback ip addresses since that will guarantee that
the frame-relay map is always reliable

Jason

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Hi all,
  What is a Loopback Interface and what is it's use ?.. Can anyone help
me
out.. In configuring FrameRelay for point-to-point connection, loopback
inetrface is been advised why ??

thanks in advance .


hari


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