RE: new CCIE requirement/step [7:72475]
This is so hilariousyou need to copyright it so that you can package it for sale...lol -Original Message- From: p b [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 9:49 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: OT: new CCIE requirement/step [7:72475] Heard there's a new requirement between the CCIE written and lab. One now has to sing the following song on a street corner on Tasman Drive. Passing score is 740. http://puck.nether.net/~jared/gigflapping.mp3 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72486t=72475 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: new CCIE requirement/step [7:72475]
don't click on goatse.cx you were warned. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72499t=72475 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: new CCIE requirement/step [7:72475]
you must also go to cisco to check out the real updated requirments [url=http://www.goatse.cx]www.cisco.com[/url] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=72498t=72475 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE revised exam preparation [7:66706]
Until now I could not find out if the number of questions also decreased. It seems not to be documented anywhere. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66749t=66706 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE revised exam preparation [7:66706]
Jorg, go to Denis Laganiere link and read it. He has a wealth of information. http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/Written.htm rbx10Jörg Buesink wrote: Hi there, Currently I'm studing for the new revised 100 question CCIE RS written exam. Currently I use the book CCIE Routing and Switching exam cert guide bt A. Bruno. I think this book is fine for CCNP, but not for a CCIE written test. I would like to buy other material, what are your suggestions? With kind regard, Jorg. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66707t=66706 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE revised exam preparation [7:66706]
so it went from 150 questions/3 hrs to 100 questions/2 hours on march 28th? the cisco page does indicate the reduction from 3 to 2 hrs but no mention of the # of questions -Original Message- From: Jvrg Buesink [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:06 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE revised exam preparation [7:66706] Hi there, Currently I'm studing for the new revised 100 question CCIE RS written exam. Currently I use the book CCIE Routing and Switching exam cert guide bt A. Bruno. I think this book is fine for CCNP, but not for a CCIE written test. I would like to buy other material, what are your suggestions? With kind regard, Jorg. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=66709t=66706 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Fw: RIF URL changed...(Was: Re: New CCIE writt [7:57486]
HI Dennis, I passed my written yesterday.I dont know your mail id. I want to thank you for your Boson test as well as your notes on cramsession. regards Silju Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57500t=57486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RIF URL changed...(Was: Re: New CCIE written exam) [7:57478]
It's now http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/rif.pdf HTH D At 10:40 PM 9/10/2002 +, Jim Tickle wrote: There's a good RIF document at http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/doingrifsv2.pdf Mark Godfrey wrote:I agree your not helping us by sharing the exact question on the test but you could open up a focus on a particular area that we all could hit on as a group. :-) Say Token Ring and RIF's thats were I need lots of work if you can believe it. I like to here that the new test is a challenge though makes me feel sorry for all those guys that have to re-certify the CCIE. hehe ya right!!! MG Roberts, Larry wrote in message news:200209101947.TAA13868;groupstudy.com... Just to be the first to jump In, but DON'T post the questions on this list. This list is monitored by Cisco and rest assured that if you post a question to this list that is real, you will most likely be contacted. I for one didn't have any help from knowing what was on the test, and neither did most people who have passed it. You need to learn the material, not just regurgitate answers that you have memorized. I'm being much more polite that most of the replies that are likely to follow, so please take the advice and forget that you even offered...or asked Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: YILMAZ ACAR [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005] Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost + International Network Services Darren S. Crawford - CCNP, CCDP, CISSP Sr. Network Systems Consultant Northwest Region - Sacramento Office Voicemail (916) 859-5200 x310 Pager (800) 467-1467 mailto://darren.crawford;ins.com + Every Job is a Self-Portrait of the person Who Did It...Autograph Your Work With EXCELLENCE! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57478t=57478 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fw: RIF URL changed...(Was: Re: New CCIE written exam) [7:57486]
You'll find this and a few other free documents I wrote for the CCIE Written and Cisco Switching exams at www.laganere.net (which resolves to http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/index.htm). I'll try and dress up the webpage a bit in the next week or so... :-) --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Darren S. Crawford To: Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2002 3:47 PM Subject: RIF URL changed...(Was: Re: New CCIE written exam) [7:57478] It's now http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/rif.pdf HTH D At 10:40 PM 9/10/2002 +, Jim Tickle wrote: There's a good RIF document at http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/doingrifsv2.pdf Mark Godfrey wrote:I agree your not helping us by sharing the exact question on the test but you could open up a focus on a particular area that we all could hit on as a group. :-) Say Token Ring and RIF's thats were I need lots of work if you can believe it. I like to here that the new test is a challenge though makes me feel sorry for all those guys that have to re-certify the CCIE. hehe ya right!!! MG Roberts, Larry wrote in message news:200209101947.TAA13868;groupstudy.com... Just to be the first to jump In, but DON'T post the questions on this list. This list is monitored by Cisco and rest assured that if you post a question to this list that is real, you will most likely be contacted. I for one didn't have any help from knowing what was on the test, and neither did most people who have passed it. You need to learn the material, not just regurgitate answers that you have memorized. I'm being much more polite that most of the replies that are likely to follow, so please take the advice and forget that you even offered...or asked Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: YILMAZ ACAR [mailto:nobody;groupstudy.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005] Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost + International Network Services Darren S. Crawford - CCNP, CCDP, CISSP Sr. Network Systems Consultant Northwest Region - Sacramento Office Voicemail (916) 859-5200 x310 Pager (800) 467-1467 mailto://darren.crawford;ins.com + Every Job is a Self-Portrait of the person Who Did It...Autograph Your Work With EXCELLENCE! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57486t=57486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written Exam [7:57341]
- does the Cisco CCIE RS Exam Certification guide cover all the topics in new exam? Definitely not. And it is really necessary to study the topics in this book using other books too. I do not have the answer for the Boson test. If you allow me, I would like to put one more question in this subject: - Does anyone could say if after November 4th there are not (really not) questions about Token Ring and IPX? [EMAIL PROTECTED] @groupstudy.com em 13/11/2002 11:39:07 Favor responder a [EMAIL PROTECTED] Enviado Por: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Assunto:New CCIE Written Exam [7:57341] Dear All, I would really appreciate if anyone would share their thoughts or experience on the new CCIE written exam preparation. Without breaking the NDA, would some also comment on the following: - does the Cisco CCIE RS Exam Certification guide cover all the topics in new exam? - would the Boson tests still be recommended - In a nutshell what materials could be useful for the exam beside CCO ? Regards, Arman -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr f|r 1 ct/ Min. surfen! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=57360t=57341 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
Write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and ask - let us know. -Original Message- From: Cisco Nuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2002 11:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019] Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new jazzy web-site? They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots anywhere. My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else?? Anyone else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely. Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here * The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. * Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55027t=55019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
There is a bigger question, maybe even a mystery here. I have heard that Cisco is experiencing a severe decline in the numbers of people actually showing up for their Lab exams. A lot of employers ( including mine :- wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new jazzy web-site? They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots anywhere. My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else?? Anyone else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely. Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55029t=55019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
fracking html filter let me try again without the html marking. Chuck's Long Road wrote in message news:... There is a bigger question, maybe even a mystery here. I have heard that Cisco is experiencing a severe decline in the numbers of people actually showing up for their Lab exams. A lot of employers ( including mine :-O ) are no longer paying for any training or tests because of the poor economy. I have heard that Cisco has even been holding a lottery, the prize being a free lab test for people who work for Cisco partners, in order to encourage people to pay up and show up. Yet I haven't seen any spots opening up. Wonder what's going on? Wonder what is true? Cisco Nuts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new jazzy web-site? They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots anywhere. My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else?? Anyone else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely. Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55031t=55019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019]
So what is really true?? No spots opening up YET a severe decline in signing up?? What's really going on? Anyone?? From: Chuck's Long Road Reply-To: Chuck's Long Road To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New CCIE Lab Policy?? Why?? [7:55019] Date: Mon, 7 Oct 2002 18:25:11 GMT fracking html filter let me try again without the html marking. Chuck's Long Road wrote in message news:... There is a bigger question, maybe even a mystery here. I have heard that Cisco is experiencing a severe decline in the numbers of people actually showing up for their Lab exams. A lot of employers ( including mine :-O ) are no longer paying for any training or tests because of the poor economy. I have heard that Cisco has even been holding a lottery, the prize being a free lab test for people who work for Cisco partners, in order to encourage people to pay up and show up. Yet I haven't seen any spots opening up. Wonder what's going on? Wonder what is true? Cisco Nuts wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hello, Has anyone noticed the new CCIE Lab policy on this Cisco's new jazzy web-site? They have stated that: Candidates must attempt the CCIE Lab exam within one year of passing the CCIE Qualification exam. It was set to 18 months as of last week. I had planned to schedule my lab for the last day of the 18 month period, just looking for any open slots anywhere. My question is: What happens to candidates like me that have not scheduled and it's been over a year since I took my written exam? Am I pretty much scr@!$...?? If so, this is bad, real bad!! Can any one ask Cisco if this applies to candidates after Oct. 5th or to everyone else?? Anyone else have any other ideas?? Thank you. Sincerely. Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=55047t=55019 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab - Anyone ??? [7:53171]
The question is.Has anyone had to use them yet in the labI heard a rumor this week in RTP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco Nuts Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE Lab - Anyone ??? [7:53171] Hello, Has anyone taken the new CCIE Lab beginning Sept.4th? Pass or Fail? So far, no one has provided any feedback since the 4th. I have been waiting anxiously for someone to post something. Did anyone see the new 3550 switches or the old Cat 5 or both?? How about any new stuff? MPLS, IPSEC, QOS on the 3550 etc. etc. Anyone?? Sincerely. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53214t=53171 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab - Anyone ??? [7:53171]
Cisco Nuts, The Cat 3550 EMI L3 switch will be making its appearance in the CCIE lab in October, and will become THE L2 device in November Juan Blanco -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Cisco Nuts Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2002 10:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE Lab - Anyone ??? [7:53171] Hello, Has anyone taken the new CCIE Lab beginning Sept.4th? Pass or Fail? So far, no one has provided any feedback since the 4th. I have been waiting anxiously for someone to post something. Did anyone see the new 3550 switches or the old Cat 5 or both?? How about any new stuff? MPLS, IPSEC, QOS on the 3550 etc. etc. Anyone?? Sincerely. _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53178t=53171 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005]
Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53014t=53005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005]
Cheaters never prosper; shortcuts to the cert just mean you're demeaning the value of the title some of us hardworking students are sweating for. I don't speak from experience, but if I were you, I'd be mindful of the NDA - you are treading awfully close to the edge... Bill Creighton CCNP Senior System Engineer Motorola iDEN CNRC Packet Data -Original Message- From: YILMAZ ACAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005] Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53018t=53005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005]
A friendly reminder that is against Cisco policy to post any exam questions. - Original Message - From: YILMAZ ACAR To: Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 11:43 AM Subject: RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005] Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53019t=53005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005]
Just to be the first to jump In, but DON'T post the questions on this list. This list is monitored by Cisco and rest assured that if you post a question to this list that is real, you will most likely be contacted. I for one didn't have any help from knowing what was on the test, and neither did most people who have passed it. You need to learn the material, not just regurgitate answers that you have memorized. I'm being much more polite that most of the replies that are likely to follow, so please take the advice and forget that you even offered...or asked Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: YILMAZ ACAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005] Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53020t=53005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005]
I agree your not helping us by sharing the exact question on the test but you could open up a focus on a particular area that we all could hit on as a group. :-) Say Token Ring and RIF's thats were I need lots of work if you can believe it. I like to here that the new test is a challenge though makes me feel sorry for all those guys that have to re-certify the CCIE. hehe ya right!!! MG Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Just to be the first to jump In, but DON'T post the questions on this list. This list is monitored by Cisco and rest assured that if you post a question to this list that is real, you will most likely be contacted. I for one didn't have any help from knowing what was on the test, and neither did most people who have passed it. You need to learn the material, not just regurgitate answers that you have memorized. I'm being much more polite that most of the replies that are likely to follow, so please take the advice and forget that you even offered...or asked Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: YILMAZ ACAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005] Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53030t=53005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005]
There's a good RIF document at http://home.attbi.com/~blaga/doingrifsv2.pdf Mark Godfrey wrote:I agree your not helping us by sharing the exact question on the test but you could open up a focus on a particular area that we all could hit on as a group. :-) Say Token Ring and RIF's thats were I need lots of work if you can believe it. I like to here that the new test is a challenge though makes me feel sorry for all those guys that have to re-certify the CCIE. hehe ya right!!! MG Roberts, Larry wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Just to be the first to jump In, but DON'T post the questions on this list. This list is monitored by Cisco and rest assured that if you post a question to this list that is real, you will most likely be contacted. I for one didn't have any help from knowing what was on the test, and neither did most people who have passed it. You need to learn the material, not just regurgitate answers that you have memorized. I'm being much more polite that most of the replies that are likely to follow, so please take the advice and forget that you even offered...or asked Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: YILMAZ ACAR [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2002 1:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE written exam. [7:53005] Rajesh; do you have real exam questions? can you post it. did you saw old exam questions your exam. Thank you netcisco Yahoo! - We Remember 9-11: A tribute to the more than 3,000 lives lost Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=53041t=53005 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE written [7:52717]
If you take a quick look in the group archives at www.groupstudy.com you'll find several months worth of comments about it, but basically they dropped a few older technologies, added a bunch of new ones, upped the number of questions, and ratcheted up the level of the questions. It's much harder, but I think it's more relevant and does a better job of getting you ready for the lab. I wrote a free study guide for the exam last month that is posted at www.cramsession.com, and I have a bunch of free documents I put together at www.laganiere.net that you might find useful. I hope that helps... --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Robert Emert To: Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 12:50 AM Subject: New CCIE written [7:52717] Hi, Does anyone knows how much is new CCIE written different from old one. I saw that Cisco added some objectives, there is no appletalk, decnet, fddi, Cisco added some new tehnologies (wirelless, mpls) but how much are really this topics coverd on the exam. Robert Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=52728t=52717 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Written [7:51378]
Mike, Yes, I have taken the Bata. There is a big difference between this new test and the old one. There is a lot of Voice, QOS, MPLS subject in this new test. The old test was very much concentrating on Token Ring. Reza Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51449t=51378 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE RS Exam thoughts... [7:51130]
Hi Raj I would like to know what books you use to prepare for new CCIE RS. thanks regards jagan Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51288t=51130 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written Exam [7:50946]
Hi all, I actually sat for the beta of this exam and failed by one percent The exam was a monster BUT it was very good and very well written. I have read this CCIE Study guide during Networkers and it is kinda overview of all key topics, period! No one book should and can cover this exam fully for a time being. The only solution is to STUDY STUDY and STUDY. That what i summarized when i sat for this exam. The only shortcut is if somebody break the NDA and submit all questions to u and u go there and pass it. The questions are from large variety of techs and NEW techologies plus in great depth. Like u should know IP QoS and Multicasting around the same level as u were preparing for CCIP. Also I passed the old wriiten yesterday with 78% but I studied for only one night (Dennis book) plus i am no cisco guru @ all. This simply tells u the difference between the two exams. I went through the Cisco press book but its OK as a review. The best place is CCO for the new beast. TRUST ME!! Consult all the links thoroughly which r given in the blue print and u MIGHT survive. Shahid Keith wrote:Cisco Press has a new study guide out that covers the new exam. Stepp Harless wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Are there any new study guides or practice tests out for the new exam yet? I see that Dennis has updated his study notes but I have not been able to find any other updates than what is on Cisco's website which do not tell you much. I took the old exam on the 6th and I scored a 58 percent. I was not really ready to take the exam but thought I would give it a shot before it was retired. I know some on this forum have taken the beta of the new test and wanted to know what new items do you need to know in addition to the items tested on the old test. Shahid Muhammad Shafi Every man dies; not every man really lives remember, if God bringz u 2 it, He WILL bring u thru it!!!- Please help feed hungry people worldwide http://www.hungersite.com/ A small thing each of us can do to help others less fortunate than ourselves - Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs, a Yahoo! service - Search Thousands of New Jobs Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51037t=50946 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Written Exam [7:50946]
Just found out that Boson has now has the new CCIE written practice exams available. Just down loaded Dennis's changes and looking at it right now. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=50983t=50946 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Written Exam [7:50946]
I know that CCxx Productions will have their new guide out in about a month. Other than that, I don't know if there are other guides that are available yet. I spoke with Dennis about a two weeks ago and he told me that he was updating his Boson exam. I'm not sure if it is done yet. Right now, your best bet is to print out the blueprint and start going through each topic. You'll need to know most of it when you take the lab anyway! Shawn K. Disclaimer: I have written materials for CCxx Productions and Boson/Quizware. -Original Message- From: Stepp Harless [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, August 08, 2002 12:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE Written Exam [7:50946] Are there any new study guides or practice tests out for the new exam yet? I see that Dennis has updated his study notes but I have not been able to find any other updates than what is on Cisco's website which do not tell you much. I took the old exam on the 6th and I scored a 58 percent. I was not really ready to take the exam but thought I would give it a shot before it was retired. I know some on this forum have taken the beta of the new test and wanted to know what new items do you need to know in addition to the items tested on the old test. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=50965t=50946 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written Exam [7:50946]
Cisco Press has a new study guide out that covers the new exam. Stepp Harless wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Are there any new study guides or practice tests out for the new exam yet? I see that Dennis has updated his study notes but I have not been able to find any other updates than what is on Cisco's website which do not tell you much. I took the old exam on the 6th and I scored a 58 percent. I was not really ready to take the exam but thought I would give it a shot before it was retired. I know some on this forum have taken the beta of the new test and wanted to know what new items do you need to know in addition to the items tested on the old test. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=51032t=50946 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Written is here. Be afraid, be very [7:49615]
Well, Cisco wrote me back and they said that any CCIE Written 350-001 exams taken on August 7th or after will be the new exam, regardless of when you registered. So, if any of you who registered for the exam before August 7th to take the exam after August 7th thinking that you were going to take the current exam, you better re-schedule, just to be safe. Regarding re-scheduling, remember that you can't retake an exam unless a minimum of 72 hours (3 days) has passed. So, if you want to give yourself a second chance if you flunk it the first time, make sure you re-schedule at least three or more days before the August 7th deadline so you can schedule your second chance before the new exam takes over! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Jason Viera [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 2:57 PM To: Kaminski, Shawn G Subject: Re: New CCIE Written is here. Be afraid, be very [7:49615] Shawn, Let me know what you find out. Thanks, Jason - Original Message - From: Kaminski, Shawn G Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:49 PM Subject: RE: New CCIE Written is here. Be afraid, be very [7:49615] I'm getting asked this question a lot from people at work: If someone registers for the CCIE Written before August 7th but plans to take the exam on August 8th, will they take the old exam or the new exam? The way Cisco makes it sound, they'll replace the old exam with the new exam on August 7th. However, in the past they've had a grandfather period where both the exams are active at the same time and they fade out the old exam eventually. If anyone has found out the answer to this, please post. Otherwise, I will contact Cisco to find out. Thanks! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very [7:49615] What date are you taking your test? thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco home labs: www.optsys.net Jason Viera wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just registered today what exam version will I be taking? Thanks in advance, Jason Dennis Laganiere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the revised CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of the exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002. Note: The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html #5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49834t=49615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very [7:49615]
What date are you taking your test? thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco home labs: www.optsys.net Jason Viera wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just registered today what exam version will I be taking? Thanks in advance, Jason Dennis Laganiere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the revised CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of the exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002. Note: The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49615t=49615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Written is here. Be afraid, be very [7:49615]
I'm getting asked this question a lot from people at work: If someone registers for the CCIE Written before August 7th but plans to take the exam on August 8th, will they take the old exam or the new exam? The way Cisco makes it sound, they'll replace the old exam with the new exam on August 7th. However, in the past they've had a grandfather period where both the exams are active at the same time and they fade out the old exam eventually. If anyone has found out the answer to this, please post. Otherwise, I will contact Cisco to find out. Thanks! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Brad Ellis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 8:43 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very [7:49615] What date are you taking your test? thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cisco home labs: www.optsys.net Jason Viera wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I just registered today what exam version will I be taking? Thanks in advance, Jason Dennis Laganiere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the revised CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of the exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002. Note: The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html #5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49703t=49615 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very afraid... [7:49715]
I think a CCIE candidate should have some knowledge of the older stuff. The knowledge needed isn't too deep at all. It's always good to have at least a little knowledge of the more obscure subjects. We;re doing a large TR migration at the moment, and it's not the only one we've seen recently. Hopefully the exam is a little harder. I think it was only intended in the past to weed out the absolute no hopers before they block up lab slots, not to be added to the signature blocks of blaggers as a qualification in its self. Although even if it's no harder, as long as people realise that it's not a qualification, just a basic test to prove you might be worthy of starting the long path to CCIE. My two penneth. Gaz Scott wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is a good thing. Although, why add things like MPLS, wireless, SS7 when you still have token ring and x.25? Seems kinda stupid. Scott CCIE #9340 Dennis Laganiere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the revised CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of the exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002. Note: The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49715t=49715 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very afraid... [7:49575]
This is a good thing. Although, why add things like MPLS, wireless, SS7 when you still have token ring and x.25? Seems kinda stupid. Scott CCIE #9340 Dennis Laganiere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the revised CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of the exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002. Note: The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49575t=49575 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very afraid... [7:49595]
Dennis Laganiere wrote: To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... In search of someone, anyone who attended the CCIE Power Session in San Diego or Orlando: The URL above (whatsnew.html#5) refers to the beta (351-001): http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/RoutingBeta.html Will someone who attended the CCIE Power Session (PS-570) at Networkers 2002 in San Diego or Orlando compare and contrast the extensive description of the beta and the Power Session. Please. If someone who actually attended PS-570 would only do this! We're not talking about any NDA violations, nothing to worry about, just free exchange of public knowledge of two public items: * the description of the beta at the URL above * Networkers 2002 PS-570 -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49595t=49595 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very afraid... [7:49601]
I did the power session: In the power session, there was no mention of: LANE IPX TR IP6 X25 Security PoS Wireless Video There was little mention on: ISIS ATM They said don't focus too much on that stuff, just the basics. Tom Scott wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Dennis Laganiere wrote: To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... In search of someone, anyone who attended the CCIE Power Session in San Diego or Orlando: The URL above (whatsnew.html#5) refers to the beta (351-001): http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/RoutingBeta.html Will someone who attended the CCIE Power Session (PS-570) at Networkers 2002 in San Diego or Orlando compare and contrast the extensive description of the beta and the Power Session. Please. If someone who actually attended PS-570 would only do this! We're not talking about any NDA violations, nothing to worry about, just free exchange of public knowledge of two public items: * the description of the beta at the URL above * Networkers 2002 PS-570 -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49601t=49601 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Written is here. He afraid, be very afraid... [7:49609]
I just registered today what exam version will I be taking? Thanks in advance, Jason Dennis Laganiere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The CCIE Program is proud to announce the upcoming release of the revised CCIE Routing and Switching Written Exam (350-001). The new version of the exam will go live, and replace the current exam, on August 7th, 2002. Note: The revised exam will consist of 150 questions and be 180 minutes in duration. To prepare for this exam, candidates may wish to review the exam blueprint and study suggestions. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/whatsnew.html#5 If this is anything like the beta, things just got quite a bit harder... --- Dennis Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=49609t=49609 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: new ccie written exam [7:30346]
Not for a while. There hasn't even been a beta yet. They'll announce the change months in advance. gavin wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Does anyone know if the ccie written will change on Jan 1 Or sometime therafter? Gavin A Welch WCSP, CCNA, CCNP Pocket Networks The best way to predict the future is to invent it. - Alan Kay --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/2001 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=30349t=30346 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE #8545 [7:29619]
Great job!! I hope one day I will be a CCIE...my goal... Jacques Allison wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... HI Group, Completed my CCIE lab yesterday and now proud owner of CCIE number 8545. Now for the Security lab. Thanks to the group and people that help me achieve my goal. I'm still a tad skeptic about the new automated marking they do on the labs; I would have thought that I had scored more than I received on the score report. I think they check most solutions, but not all! Also, they need to give more feedback about the lab result, because you always learn from your mistakes. The lab was not too bad and I finished +- 1 hour early. I was the last one to do the lab in South Africa this year, so I just squeezed in my certification before 2002. Good luck to the people pursuing their CCIE certification, you'll need it! Regards, Jacques Allison Senior Network Engineer CS IT Solutions Tel: +27 (0) 11 257 4000 Fax: +27 (0) 11 807 8992 Mobile: +27 (0) 83 327 4941 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #8545 Adding Value to IT [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image001.gif which was 55 lines] [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image003.jpg which was 25 lines] [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image004.gif which was 57 lines] [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image005.gif which was 28 lines] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29829t=29619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE #8545 [7:29619]
Congrats mate. Can you show us mere mortals the path to the ultimate ? Thanks Nick Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29622t=29619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE #8545 [7:29619]
Congratulations Jacques, Unfortunately, I think there's a good reason for the lack of feedback on your score, because just like the results from a normal Cisco test, you only get how many percent you did correct in each objective. If they gave a more detailed feedback, telling you what you did wrong, and what you did right, they would have to show more about the question or scenario that you were examined in, and some people would not follow the NDA but distribute this info to others who are pursuing the cert. This is sad but necessary. Anyway(s), again congratulations, and good luck with your security lab. Ole ~~~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~~~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~~~ NEED A JOB ??? http://www.oledrews.com/job ~~~ -Original Message- From: Jacques Allison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE #8545 [7:29619] HI Group, Completed my CCIE lab yesterday and now proud owner of CCIE number 8545. Now for the Security lab. Thanks to the group and people that help me achieve my goal. I'm still a tad skeptic about the new automated marking they do on the labs; I would have thought that I had scored more than I received on the score report. I think they check most solutions, but not all! Also, they need to give more feedback about the lab result, because you always learn from your mistakes. The lab was not too bad and I finished +- 1 hour early. I was the last one to do the lab in South Africa this year, so I just squeezed in my certification before 2002. Good luck to the people pursuing their CCIE certification, you'll need it! Regards, Jacques Allison Senior Network Engineer CS IT Solutions Tel: +27 (0) 11 257 4000 Fax: +27 (0) 11 807 8992 Mobile: +27 (0) 83 327 4941 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] #8545 Adding Value to IT [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image001.gif which was 55 lines] [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image003.jpg which was 25 lines] [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image004.gif which was 57 lines] [demime removed a uuencoded section named clip_image005.gif which was 28 lines] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=29647t=29619 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Lab - ATM ? [7:25650]
did any one what about ATM configuration in the new CCIE Lab ? I heard there is no so much to configure. Any comments ? Cu Udo see http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/certifications/ATM_FAQs.html it's probably still accurate _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=25792t=25650 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Lab - ATM ? [7:25650]
How would the new lab be any different than the old lab with regards to ATM??? I'm betting it's pretty much the same! thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Hi all, did any one what about ATM configuration in the new CCIE Lab ? I heard there is no so much to configure. Any comments ? Cu Udo Keine verlorenen Lotto-Quittungen, keine vergessenen Gewinne mehr! Beim WEB.DE Lottoservice: http://tippen2.web.de/?x=13 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=25691t=25650 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]
I was at LA Networkers this year in the CCIE Power Session, which had 2-3 proctors speaking. The gist of what I got regarding moving to a one-day lab was to cut the fluffy CCNA-level stuff (ip addressing, etc.) and use some sort of automation to move it along. Between that, and a longer day (I don't recall how long, 10 or 12 hour day), it was expected to have the same content, just less time wasting stuff. I think this makes sense in general, but I'd still like to see it stay a two-day format and just add more content. If it was really a matter of the lines to get into the lab, they could just add more labs and locations. One example of how things had already been simplified (some time back): you're not required to configure your terminal server, where-as in the past you were. Basically, you need to know your stuff cold, because you'll be jumping straight into it, and you're also going to need to be able to get very familiar, very fast, with different scenarios. Nuke your home lab often and force yourself to move cables around and use completely new addressing. Don't get comfortable like you may be with your work network. Fortunately, those of us that consult already have the advantage there. Just about weekly, and even daily at times, I walk into a new customer network I've never seen (or saw for two days six months ago and have terse notes) and am expected to troubleshoot or install new gear. Of course, my toes get a workout. PS As a side note, I hear Halifax has the best passing rate. Folks book there just to have a slight edge over SJO or RTP. Of course, with that rumor floating around, I can see Cisco toughening up there ;-) -- Jason Roysdon, CCNP+Security/CCDP, MCSE, CNA, Network+, A+ List email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Homepage: http://jason.artoo.net/ Brian Dennis wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Peter, The issue isn't a one day / two day issue. I'm sure the one day lab with be tough and at first we will see a lot of people failing it. Cisco has to do this to ensure that it looks like a good decision but wait for a few months after a ton of people take it. The beta one day lab was really hard and failed many people. Bruce Caslow scored a 27/100 and Phil Remaker scored 35/100. Some people declined to take it because they knew that they would be setup to fail ;) But that isn't what Cisco is trying to do. Cisco is using the long waiting list as an excuse to move to a one day remote lab. If Cisco really wanted to shorten the waiting list they would fix the written but that wouldn't give them an excuse to go to a one day remote lab. People should not be fooled into thinking this a one day / two day issue or a long waiting list issue. This is just a start of the changes to come for the CCIE lab. Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 5G Networks, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Van Oene Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12980] Are you missing the point that the lab with still be very tough? The only issue is meeting the customer demand for rack time for testing. Cisco cannot do this in a two day format and much of the two day stuff was overhead. I personally think one day will be tougher. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/19/2001 at 1:25 PM Ciaron Gogarty wrote: I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the format... Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for seperating the weed from the chaff?? In the end, the market will get swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went.. thats my two cents -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943] thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=1321
RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]
I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12940t=12926 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943]
thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12943t=12943 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12975]
I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the format... Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for seperating the weed from the chaff?? In the end, the market will get swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went.. thats my two cents -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943] thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12975t=12975 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12980]
Are you missing the point that the lab with still be very tough? The only issue is meeting the customer demand for rack time for testing. Cisco cannot do this in a two day format and much of the two day stuff was overhead. I personally think one day will be tougher. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/19/2001 at 1:25 PM Ciaron Gogarty wrote: I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the format... Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for seperating the weed from the chaff?? In the end, the market will get swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went.. thats my two cents -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943] thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12980t=12980 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12988]
Perhaps -- you may be correct -- however, it is also possible that there are other justifiable reasons for the change and that the restructuring will be as arduous and thorough as the original lab. My read on what they are saying -- is that many of the fundamental tasks (static routes etc) we should have mastered (or at least familiarized ourselves with) during the CCNA/CCNP. However, I would be that while those tasks will no longer be graded -- you would still need a mastery of those basics to be able to proceed with the tasks required of a one-day lab (Hopefully!!!). Certainly the complexities of the more advanced tasks will assume a strong understanding of the basics. But we'll see!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ciaron Gogarty Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12975] I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the format... Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for seperating the weed from the chaff?? In the end, the market will get swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went.. thats my two cents -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943] thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12988t=12988 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12991]
I dont think anyone should say anything about the new lab until they have experienced it. And if you are unfortunate enough to be able to compare both the go ahead. I dont think CISCO is going to in anyway harm the program. Raul - Original Message - From: Greg Macaulay To: Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 2:38 PM Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12988] Perhaps -- you may be correct -- however, it is also possible that there are other justifiable reasons for the change and that the restructuring will be as arduous and thorough as the original lab. My read on what they are saying -- is that many of the fundamental tasks (static routes etc) we should have mastered (or at least familiarized ourselves with) during the CCNA/CCNP. However, I would be that while those tasks will no longer be graded -- you would still need a mastery of those basics to be able to proceed with the tasks required of a one-day lab (Hopefully!!!). Certainly the complexities of the more advanced tasks will assume a strong understanding of the basics. But we'll see!!! Greg Macaulay Oldest CCNP/CCDP on Earth Lifetime Member of AARP Retired Attorney/Law Professor -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ciaron Gogarty Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 1:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12975] I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the format... Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for seperating the weed from the chaff?? In the end, the market will get swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went.. thats my two cents -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943] thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12991t=12991 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926]
Peter, The issue isn't a one day / two day issue. I'm sure the one day lab with be tough and at first we will see a lot of people failing it. Cisco has to do this to ensure that it looks like a good decision but wait for a few months after a ton of people take it. The beta one day lab was really hard and failed many people. Bruce Caslow scored a 27/100 and Phil Remaker scored 35/100. Some people declined to take it because they knew that they would be setup to fail ;) But that isn't what Cisco is trying to do. Cisco is using the long waiting list as an excuse to move to a one day remote lab. If Cisco really wanted to shorten the waiting list they would fix the written but that wouldn't give them an excuse to go to a one day remote lab. People should not be fooled into thinking this a one day / two day issue or a long waiting list issue. This is just a start of the changes to come for the CCIE lab. Brian Dennis, CCIE #2210 (RS)(ISP/Dial) CCSI #98640 5G Networks, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Peter Van Oene Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2001 11:03 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12980] Are you missing the point that the lab with still be very tough? The only issue is meeting the customer demand for rack time for testing. Cisco cannot do this in a two day format and much of the two day stuff was overhead. I personally think one day will be tougher. Pete *** REPLY SEPARATOR *** On 7/19/2001 at 1:25 PM Ciaron Gogarty wrote: I do believe that the format IS changing to a one day lab, so it's actually taking the piss out of the reasons Cisco are giving for changing the format... Personally, I think CCIE is THE most respected vendor certification out there, so why change what (to my mind) has been a great format for seperating the weed from the chaff?? In the end, the market will get swamped with half baked CCIE's who have no substantive real world experience and the value of the cert will go down... much like the way the MCSE went.. thats my two cents -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 14:52 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] - IGNORE THIS - JOKE [7:12943] thanks I read this after an all night work session - half asleep -Original Message- From: Ciaron Gogarty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 15:23 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] I think u should read the article more closely ;-) -Original Message- From: Andrew Larkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2001 10:05 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: FW: New CCIE Lab!!??!!! [7:12926] This is what I received from a colleague. Is this true? http://angelfire.com/my/no1daylab/new_format.html Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=12993t=12926 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Tracks
Well, the sad story is: ISP-DIAL-CCIE retired SNA-CCIE retired WAN-Switching CCIE retired Design-CCIE "decommissioned due to redesign" New SP-CCIE just myth and vaporware so far Security-CCIE no glimpse so far Leaves: RS-CCIE up and running ;-) or maybe the nice new Juniper certifications! Regards, Gernot Bruce Williams wrote: I am anxiously waiting for the arrival of the CCIE Service Provider track. Has anyone heard anything at all about the status of this track? Cisco Web site says basically the same thing about it that they said three months ago. How about CCIE Design? Bruce Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Tracks
But what would you do with a Juniper cert? Work for an ISP? Yuck! Work for Juniper??? YUCK! Doesn't exactly open up the world of opportunity that the CCIE does... Z From: "Gernot W. Schmied" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Gernot W. Schmied" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New CCIE Tracks Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:04:46 +0100 Well, the sad story is: ISP-DIAL-CCIE retired SNA-CCIE retired WAN-Switching CCIE retired Design-CCIE "decommissioned due to redesign" New SP-CCIE just myth and vaporware so far Security-CCIE no glimpse so far Leaves: RS-CCIE up and running ;-) or maybe the nice new Juniper certifications! Regards, Gernot Bruce Williams wrote: I am anxiously waiting for the arrival of the CCIE Service Provider track. Has anyone heard anything at all about the status of this track? Cisco Web site says basically the same thing about it that they said three months ago. How about CCIE Design? Bruce Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE Tracks
C'mon... get real. If one has the skillset to get a JNPR cert they are knowledgable and good most likely. Same for CCIE. Then again, it also depends on ones attitude and what they'll work on and not work on. Certifications *help* open doors but they don't necessarily get you jobs. You still have to prove you know your stuff. People who know their stuff can get jobs almost anywhere based on their skillset and history. They have a good reputation (ie: they get the job done, done right, don't feed you some BS story, etc). Whats wrong with working for a ISP? I can understand if it were some small Ma and Pa shop but if it was say Level3 would you say yuck? I don't think so. Look at the opportunitys you have at larger ISPs (new equipment, multi-vendor, always changing, etc). I would hate working in an all-Cisco shop. Thats yucky to me. No exposure to other gear. And whats so yucky about working at Juniper? Smart, sharp, intelligent, nice people there. I know - I've been there. You'll be working hard... but you do this stuff because you ENJOY it right??? or do you do it for a fat paycheck and little work? You can tell what category people fall into fairly quickly. Sorry for ranting... Erick --- Mask Of Zorro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But what would you do with a Juniper cert? Work for an ISP? Yuck! Work for Juniper??? YUCK! Doesn't exactly open up the world of opportunity that the CCIE does... Z From: "Gernot W. Schmied" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: "Gernot W. Schmied" [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New CCIE Tracks Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:04:46 +0100 Well, the sad story is: ISP-DIAL-CCIE retired SNA-CCIE retired WAN-Switching CCIE retired Design-CCIE "decommissioned due to redesign" New SP-CCIE just myth and vaporware so far Security-CCIE no glimpse so far Leaves: RS-CCIE up and running ;-) or maybe the nice new Juniper certifications! Regards, Gernot Bruce Williams wrote: I am anxiously waiting for the arrival of the CCIE Service Provider track. Has anyone heard anything at all about the status of this track? Cisco Web site says basically the same thing about it that they said three months ago. How about CCIE Design? Bruce Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE
Congrats, way to go In the end it all paid off. Joe Martin wrote: H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE
Joe, C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S. Thanks for sharing your experience with us. Ramon Lugo -Original Message- From: Joe Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 7:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE
Congragulations Joe!! You deserve it!! Bharat Suneja ""Joe Martin"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8gsbio$coa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8gsbio$coa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE
Great going Joe...Hearty congratulations You sure are one of the reasons why one looks forward to this study group...pl continue being so u would do great by describing the lab conditions,no of questions,type of questions... any suggestions on what products from cisco are a must in terms of hands on...what one could do without.. any input is welcome pl Good luck Deepak "Joe Martin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 8gsbio$coa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8gsbio$coa$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE
Just wanted to say contrats. Without breaking your NDA do you have any tips/tricks to share with the rest of us attempting to climb to the top of Mt. Cisco? -- Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Martin Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE
Congrats - You have finally made it This opens a new path in your career, which you have worked hard for and finally achieved it. Well Done!! Ramesh Nadan CCNA -Original Message- From: Joe Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, 29 May 2000 9:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE
I have a method that I used for the lab. Mostly developed by Bruce Caslow and specified in his book. Here's how I start things out. This is all generic information that I used for all my prep work. None of this material is specific to the CCIE lab. 1-Read the entire lab. Think of all the issues involved with the protocols and the topology. 2-Write down specific info in a list regarding IP addressing and interfaces and summarization. 3-Draw a REALLY nice drawing of the network. Leave plenty of room to write in addressing info. 4-Label the drawing with all the interface number. 5-Use different colored pencils for different routing and routed protocols 6-Fill in all the IPs from the list you created. 7-Then fill in the rest of the IPs from the allowed block. 8-As you read the exam, look to see if they specify summarizing so that you create an IP scheme that can be summarized. look at each router and write down the type/IOS version/IOS name 9-Create a script in notepad with all the common commands that you want on each router and paste this onto each one. Put the command "hostname " last so you can just type in the name of your router and your finished. 10-Next, put the IP addressing on all of the routers. As you do this do whats necesary to turn up the interfaces. Frame Relay/mapping, clock rates, ISDN/ppp/username/dialer-list. 11-After doing this on each router, go thru and ping each interface, local and neighbor. Make sure they are all reachable. Doing this now keeps you from wondering if you have a layer 1,2,3 problem and not a routing problem that may show up in the steps to come. Remember to that many multipoint interface types don't allow you to ping your local interface without some extra programming. Also remember spoke to spoke reachability in partially meshed NBMA networks. 12-After doing this, start the main portion of the lab. 13-Try to save access lists to the end. Remember what access lists will do to your network. It can block DLSW, or routing protocols or AURP appletalk tunnels, etc... 14-Try to get done early enough that you can reload your routers and make sure everything comes up OK. Remember that a reload could change your router ID for OSPF and mess up your virtual tunnels. But, by IPing all of your routers before appying routing protocols will help avert these types of problems. THINK, THINK, THINK. Other tips: IPX ROUTING X.X.X where X=your router number. Ex. Router 1 will become IPX ROUTING 0001.0001.0001 This tip makes it easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and IPX ping testing. APPLETALK CABLERANGE X-X X.Y where Y=router number. This also makes if easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and apple ping testing JOE CCIE #5917 ""Kevin Welch"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 001d01bfc9b5$7506b2a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001d01bfc9b5$7506b2a0$[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Just wanted to say contrats. Without breaking your NDA do you have any tips/tricks to share with the rest of us attempting to climb to the top of Mt. Cisco? -- Kevin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Martin Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: New CCIE H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week
Re: New CCIE
This is excellent advice, and virtually identical to the method I found successful when I passed last week in Halifax.. It is unfortunate Bruce Caslow is not on this list to see how well his methodology is helping people get through the CCIE lab.. Greg Myran CCIE# 5906 At 08:00 PM 5/29/2000 , Joe Martin wrote: I have a method that I used for the lab. Mostly developed by Bruce Caslow and specified in his book. Here's how I start things out. This is all generic information that I used for all my prep work. None of this material is specific to the CCIE lab. 1-Read the entire lab. Think of all the issues involved with the protocols and the topology. 2-Write down specific info in a list regarding IP addressing and interfaces and summarization. 3-Draw a REALLY nice drawing of the network. Leave plenty of room to write in addressing info. 4-Label the drawing with all the interface number. 5-Use different colored pencils for different routing and routed protocols 6-Fill in all the IPs from the list you created. 7-Then fill in the rest of the IPs from the allowed block. 8-As you read the exam, look to see if they specify summarizing so that you create an IP scheme that can be summarized. look at each router and write down the type/IOS version/IOS name 9-Create a script in notepad with all the common commands that you want on each router and paste this onto each one. Put the command "hostname " last so you can just type in the name of your router and your finished. 10-Next, put the IP addressing on all of the routers. As you do this do whats necesary to turn up the interfaces. Frame Relay/mapping, clock rates, ISDN/ppp/username/dialer-list. 11-After doing this on each router, go thru and ping each interface, local and neighbor. Make sure they are all reachable. Doing this now keeps you from wondering if you have a layer 1,2,3 problem and not a routing problem that may show up in the steps to come. Remember to that many multipoint interface types don't allow you to ping your local interface without some extra programming. Also remember spoke to spoke reachability in partially meshed NBMA networks. 12-After doing this, start the main portion of the lab. 13-Try to save access lists to the end. Remember what access lists will do to your network. It can block DLSW, or routing protocols or AURP appletalk tunnels, etc... 14-Try to get done early enough that you can reload your routers and make sure everything comes up OK. Remember that a reload could change your router ID for OSPF and mess up your virtual tunnels. But, by IPing all of your routers before appying routing protocols will help avert these types of problems. THINK, THINK, THINK. Other tips: IPX ROUTING X.X.X where X=your router number. Ex. Router 1 will become IPX ROUTING 0001.0001.0001 This tip makes it easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and IPX ping testing. APPLETALK CABLERANGE X-X X.Y where Y=router number. This also makes if easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and apple ping testing JOE CCIE #5917 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE
I've already sent Bruce a BIG thank you for his book, methods and class. JOE CCIE #5917 "Greg Myran" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is excellent advice, and virtually identical to the method I found successful when I passed last week in Halifax.. It is unfortunate Bruce Caslow is not on this list to see how well his methodology is helping people get through the CCIE lab.. Greg Myran CCIE# 5906 At 08:00 PM 5/29/2000 , Joe Martin wrote: I have a method that I used for the lab. Mostly developed by Bruce Caslow and specified in his book. Here's how I start things out. This is all generic information that I used for all my prep work. None of this material is specific to the CCIE lab. 1-Read the entire lab. Think of all the issues involved with the protocols and the topology. 2-Write down specific info in a list regarding IP addressing and interfaces and summarization. 3-Draw a REALLY nice drawing of the network. Leave plenty of room to write in addressing info. 4-Label the drawing with all the interface number. 5-Use different colored pencils for different routing and routed protocols 6-Fill in all the IPs from the list you created. 7-Then fill in the rest of the IPs from the allowed block. 8-As you read the exam, look to see if they specify summarizing so that you create an IP scheme that can be summarized. look at each router and write down the type/IOS version/IOS name 9-Create a script in notepad with all the common commands that you want on each router and paste this onto each one. Put the command "hostname " last so you can just type in the name of your router and your finished. 10-Next, put the IP addressing on all of the routers. As you do this do whats necesary to turn up the interfaces. Frame Relay/mapping, clock rates, ISDN/ppp/username/dialer-list. 11-After doing this on each router, go thru and ping each interface, local and neighbor. Make sure they are all reachable. Doing this now keeps you from wondering if you have a layer 1,2,3 problem and not a routing problem that may show up in the steps to come. Remember to that many multipoint interface types don't allow you to ping your local interface without some extra programming. Also remember spoke to spoke reachability in partially meshed NBMA networks. 12-After doing this, start the main portion of the lab. 13-Try to save access lists to the end. Remember what access lists will do to your network. It can block DLSW, or routing protocols or AURP appletalk tunnels, etc... 14-Try to get done early enough that you can reload your routers and make sure everything comes up OK. Remember that a reload could change your router ID for OSPF and mess up your virtual tunnels. But, by IPing all of your routers before appying routing protocols will help avert these types of problems. THINK, THINK, THINK. Other tips: IPX ROUTING X.X.X where X=your router number. Ex. Router 1 will become IPX ROUTING 0001.0001.0001 This tip makes it easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and IPX ping testing. APPLETALK CABLERANGE X-X X.Y where Y=router number. This also makes if easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and apple ping testing JOE CCIE #5917 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE
Joe- Congrats to you! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joe Martin Sent: Monday, May 29, 2000 9:34 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New CCIE I've already sent Bruce a BIG thank you for his book, methods and class. JOE CCIE #5917 "Greg Myran" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... This is excellent advice, and virtually identical to the method I found successful when I passed last week in Halifax.. It is unfortunate Bruce Caslow is not on this list to see how well his methodology is helping people get through the CCIE lab.. Greg Myran CCIE# 5906 At 08:00 PM 5/29/2000 , Joe Martin wrote: I have a method that I used for the lab. Mostly developed by Bruce Caslow and specified in his book. Here's how I start things out. This is all generic information that I used for all my prep work. None of this material is specific to the CCIE lab. 1-Read the entire lab. Think of all the issues involved with the protocols and the topology. 2-Write down specific info in a list regarding IP addressing and interfaces and summarization. 3-Draw a REALLY nice drawing of the network. Leave plenty of room to write in addressing info. 4-Label the drawing with all the interface number. 5-Use different colored pencils for different routing and routed protocols 6-Fill in all the IPs from the list you created. 7-Then fill in the rest of the IPs from the allowed block. 8-As you read the exam, look to see if they specify summarizing so that you create an IP scheme that can be summarized. look at each router and write down the type/IOS version/IOS name 9-Create a script in notepad with all the common commands that you want on each router and paste this onto each one. Put the command "hostname " last so you can just type in the name of your router and your finished. 10-Next, put the IP addressing on all of the routers. As you do this do whats necesary to turn up the interfaces. Frame Relay/mapping, clock rates, ISDN/ppp/username/dialer-list. 11-After doing this on each router, go thru and ping each interface, local and neighbor. Make sure they are all reachable. Doing this now keeps you from wondering if you have a layer 1,2,3 problem and not a routing problem that may show up in the steps to come. Remember to that many multipoint interface types don't allow you to ping your local interface without some extra programming. Also remember spoke to spoke reachability in partially meshed NBMA networks. 12-After doing this, start the main portion of the lab. 13-Try to save access lists to the end. Remember what access lists will do to your network. It can block DLSW, or routing protocols or AURP appletalk tunnels, etc... 14-Try to get done early enough that you can reload your routers and make sure everything comes up OK. Remember that a reload could change your router ID for OSPF and mess up your virtual tunnels. But, by IPing all of your routers before appying routing protocols will help avert these types of problems. THINK, THINK, THINK. Other tips: IPX ROUTING X.X.X where X=your router number. Ex. Router 1 will become IPX ROUTING 0001.0001.0001 This tip makes it easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and IPX ping testing. APPLETALK CABLERANGE X-X X.Y where Y=router number. This also makes if easy for frame relay mapping, ISDN mapping and apple ping testing JOE CCIE #5917 ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: New CCIE
Congratulation Joe. Pls. give us some sight about the books that you read to pass the exams Regards, Z. Joe Martin wrote: H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: New CCIE
AALL RIHHTT! Way to go, Joe So they were unable to bushwhack you after all! I gather the key here is to work hard, read a lot, try a bunch of things in the practice labs, and of course offer advice and good counsel on occasion here in Groupstudy. I know your life is about to get extremely interesting. But I sure hope you still visit once in a while. Take care. And don't be walking too much higher than four feet off the ground. See you in Orlando?! Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Joe Martin Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:New CCIE H e l l o from Sunny San Jose. I've just arrived back in my hotel after sucessfully completing the CCIE R/S lab. My brain isn't quite functioning correctly yet, but I wanted to pass along a great deal of thanks to everyone in the group. I have learned so much from each of you. I'll try to continue to lurk and help when I can. Here's a bit of my story: I'm 33. Got my first computer when I was 13. 20 years. Wow!!! Fell in love with programming. At 17, I got a job teaching college and was building custom IBM compatibles for a friends business. I taught continuing education computer classes. Did that for three years to help pay for my own college. By my third year of college I burned out on programming. I'd finally come out of my shell and found that I didn't want to sit in a cube all day and write code. I then went to work for a small telcom interconnect and learned all about PBXs. Did that for 7 years. I decided to make the leap back into "real" computers and data. I went to work for the phone company as a field data technician. Did that for 1 1/2 years and then became a Sales Engineer. Been doing that for about 3 years now. I've got lots of hands on and plenty of different certifications(Cisco, Bay/Nortel, Fore/Marconi, etc...). Last year, I decided to work towards my CCIE. I also decided to get all the intermediate certifications along the way. Starting from last April to November, I did my CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP. In January of this year I did my Voice access specialization. In February I passed the CCIE written. I've been hitting my engineering lab at work ever since. I did 4 hours a nite every day of the week and 12 hours each day of the weekend since then. Its been 3 1/2 months of hell. My wife has been very understanding. Boy, was that a long rambling paragraph. Hope my highschool english teacher isn't reading this! Thanks again, Joe Martin CCIE#5917, and a couple of other things... ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]