Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
Dennis, She sounds like a keeper! Gary '75 CC 35 Mk II East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, if you've followed this thread about Chris' engine controls, hopefully you'll enjoy this story. The Admiral and I were returning to Lake Pontchartrain from a week of cruising in Pensacola. I'd planned to repower Touche' from the Atomic 4 to a Universal 25XPB prior to the trip but just couldn't get everything in line. I had ordered and/or received most of the parts for the repower. (Important to remember) As we left Pensacola, The Admiral suggested we check our fuel level. Oops, the fuel gauge had *died*. I said No problem, I've ordered a new fuel gauge and tank. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) We were in the Pas au Herons Channel north of Dauphin Island, Alabama bucking high teens on the nose and 2-3 foot seas. The AT4 was giving it it's all but we were making 2-3 knots over ground. I had the main up and sheeted board tight to help the AT4 best we could. The Admiral and I started smelling exhaust fumes. I lifted the cockpit locker lid to find soot. Further investigation suggested a crack in the exhaust piping. OK, the exhaust system *died*, not really fatal, just smelly. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered a new exhaust system. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) When overnighted in Gulfport, MS. The next morning we departed and sailed up the Marianne Channel towards Lake Pontchartrain. At the first bridge coming into the Rigolets (the outlet for Lake Pontchartrain), I cranked the engine and tried to put it in gear. The entire shifter/throttle assembly failed. The bolts holding the assembly to the bulkhead had sheared. The assembly moved rather than shifting or adjusting the RPMs. OK, now the engine controls had *died*. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered engine controls. They're waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) At this time, the Admiral slowly turned to me and said You didn't order a new girl friend, did you? We cracked up. (Hope you followed the logic.) Two weeks later, Touche' had a new drive train. I still have the same Admiral. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA -- *From: *Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com *To: *Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Sent: *Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM *Subject: *Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words. I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give Bacons a shot. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
I totally agree.the CC 35 MKI is a wonderful sail boat and well worth a diesel repower Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 7:34 AM To: Dennis C.; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long) Dennis, She sounds like a keeper! Gary '75 CC 35 Mk II East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:10 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: OK, if you've followed this thread about Chris' engine controls, hopefully you'll enjoy this story. The Admiral and I were returning to Lake Pontchartrain from a week of cruising in Pensacola. I'd planned to repower Touche' from the Atomic 4 to a Universal 25XPB prior to the trip but just couldn't get everything in line. I had ordered and/or received most of the parts for the repower. (Important to remember) As we left Pensacola, The Admiral suggested we check our fuel level. Oops, the fuel gauge had died. I said No problem, I've ordered a new fuel gauge and tank. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) We were in the Pas au Herons Channel north of Dauphin Island, Alabama bucking high teens on the nose and 2-3 foot seas. The AT4 was giving it it's all but we were making 2-3 knots over ground. I had the main up and sheeted board tight to help the AT4 best we could. The Admiral and I started smelling exhaust fumes. I lifted the cockpit locker lid to find soot. Further investigation suggested a crack in the exhaust piping. OK, the exhaust system died, not really fatal, just smelly. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered a new exhaust system. It's waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) When overnighted in Gulfport, MS. The next morning we departed and sailed up the Marianne Channel towards Lake Pontchartrain. At the first bridge coming into the Rigolets (the outlet for Lake Pontchartrain), I cranked the engine and tried to put it in gear. The entire shifter/throttle assembly failed. The bolts holding the assembly to the bulkhead had sheared. The assembly moved rather than shifting or adjusting the RPMs. OK, now the engine controls had died. I told the Admiral No problem, I've ordered engine controls. They're waiting in Mandeville. I'll replace it when we get back. (Remember this) At this time, the Admiral slowly turned to me and said You didn't order a new girl friend, did you? We cracked up. (Hope you followed the logic.) Two weeks later, Touche' had a new drive train. I still have the same Admiral. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA _ From: Chris Price via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: Rick Taillieu rtaill...@eastlink.ca, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Monday, September 1, 2014 10:20:30 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control Had an interesting experience today after sailing back from the Wye River. Came into the dock and had to parallel park as usual using the prop walk to kick the stern in and stop the boat when the casting that holds the handle split in half as I was putting the engine in reverse. Fortunately, I don't approach the dock too fast and was able to bail out without hitting anything, but could not engage the transmission. The kids on the dock that were prepared to hand off the mooring lines learned a few new words. I think that the controls are the original Marmac Products controls, and thanks to Richard Kinder, the previous owner, I have the original parts list but I suspect Marmac is out of business.. I'll try to have the housing welded, but it is cheap pot metal. Any thoughts on finding a replacement? May have to give Bacons a shot. Chris Price Pradel 35 Mk I _ ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8124 - Release Date: 08/29/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
I second the idea of flushing with fresh water. What really counts is the last flush before leaving the boat. It makes a big difference. This applies (I hear) especially, if you sail in salt water, but even on a lake, the outboard water is not as clean as we would want to believe. So I use either water from the sink/shower head or simply some drinking water from a bottle. I know of some people who re-plumbed the water intake for the head to use the same through-hull as the sink drain. That way you can close the through-hull, fill the sink with water and pump it through the head. Marek From: Indigo via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2014 10:40 PM To: Bev Parslow ; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank Prevention rather than cure... Here is what I do. Rarely if ever do I have bad head odor Flush only with fresh water - I use the shower head from the sink to flush. Pump out regularly - I pump out after each weekend night away, and as frequently as possible on cruises. Flush thoroughly with fresh water each pump out. I pump lots of fresh water through the head as well as filling the tank via the deck fitting. Repeat until pump out glass shows clean water. -- Jonathan Indigo CC 35III SOUTHPORT CT On Sep 2, 2014, at 22:11, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Fresh Water pump
Good am all, We had another great weekend on the boat and I finally confirmed that my fresh water pump is the culprit on the leak I've had for a couple months. Easier to fix than finding a leak in the hoses or at a joint somewhere.. The Pump is the original Jabsco with diaphragm and plunger looking thing model 500736 I believe. I only have 3 outlets on board so the extra capacity models can be excluded. Also, I don't really want to up the pressure as I don't want to have to re-wire for more amps and I don't want to overstress the aging plastic connections (I've replaced a few already... Not fun) So that leaves us with the 3.0 GPM range automatic pumps 6 amps or so draw, 40 or so PSI I'd like something quieter and less pulsating would be nice. I have seen an accumulator in the aft sail locker but I don't think it's connected, it was probably working in tandem with the missing water heater..(Yet another project there) . Even narrowed down, there is still a bewildering array of brands, technologies, and prices.. Any suggestions and prior experience wisdom is much appreciated.. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fresh Water pump
I have one of these: http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|51|2234226|2234231id=1449462 Not quiet, but it works! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Good am all, We had another great weekend on the boat and I finally confirmed that my fresh water pump is the culprit on the leak I've had for a couple months. Easier to fix than finding a leak in the hoses or at a joint somewhere.. The Pump is the original Jabsco with diaphragm and plunger looking thing model 500736 I believe. I only have 3 outlets on board so the extra capacity models can be excluded. Also, I don't really want to up the pressure as I don't want to have to re-wire for more amps and I don't want to overstress the aging plastic connections (I've replaced a few already... Not fun) So that leaves us with the 3.0 GPM range automatic pumps 6 amps or so draw, 40 or so PSI I'd like something quieter and less pulsating would be nice. I have seen an accumulator in the aft sail locker but I don't think it's connected, it was probably working in tandem with the missing water heater..(Yet another project there) . Even narrowed down, there is still a bewildering array of brands, technologies, and prices.. Any suggestions and prior experience wisdom is much appreciated.. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose - no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose – no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! *Joe Della Barba* *Coquina* *CC 35 MK I* ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
You all make me feel good about having just replaced my transmission cable - while safely doing other things in the marina. Now I'm starting to think about the probably 34 year old throttle cableI can imagine the funny story possibilities. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose – no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! *Joe Della Barba* *Coquina* *CC 35 MK I* ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
Hi Bev, A couple of things from my experience of a smelly tank after launch this year: - If the holding tank is smelling, make sure your holding tank vent is working. Anaerobic bacteria cause the particularly noxious smells; they are replaced with aerobic, less smelly, bacteria if there is sufficient oxygen supply. My solar powered fan on the fore hatch broke early this season and the tank started smelling. Replacing that vent fan seemed to cause enough ventilation of the tank (under the v-berth) to solve the issue, so any minute air circulation will help (the vent wasn't blocked). Similarly, getting rid of mud from a wasp nest in the vent hull outlet solved an issue a couple of years back. You are going to have some salt water / waste in the tank regardless of ending the flush with fresh water. Vinegar dissolves salt residue in the hoses / tank - flushing a few gallons of white wine vinegar through the head and then a nice upwind slog into steep chop should clear any build-up out at the next pump out. - if the head is smelling, the fresh water flush will prevent decomposition in the bowl, but make sure that the valves on the head pump / outlet aren't letting anything to flow back from the outlet hose. The joker valve is the usual suspect, but if you're having to pump a lot to prime the pump to get flush water flowing, or to empty the bowl you may want to check the other pump valves too (advice from the list would be to replace the pump assembly completely). Hope this helps. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
Everyone will jump on this but nothing beats a little Clorox flushed in or poored into pump out. Jerry Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:44 AM, Tim Goodyear via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Hi Bev, A couple of things from my experience of a smelly tank after launch this year: - If the holding tank is smelling, make sure your holding tank vent is working. Anaerobic bacteria cause the particularly noxious smells; they are replaced with aerobic, less smelly, bacteria if there is sufficient oxygen supply. My solar powered fan on the fore hatch broke early this season and the tank started smelling. Replacing that vent fan seemed to cause enough ventilation of the tank (under the v-berth) to solve the issue, so any minute air circulation will help (the vent wasn't blocked). Similarly, getting rid of mud from a wasp nest in the vent hull outlet solved an issue a couple of years back. You are going to have some salt water / waste in the tank regardless of ending the flush with fresh water. Vinegar dissolves salt residue in the hoses / tank - flushing a few gallons of white wine vinegar through the head and then a nice upwind slog into steep chop should clear any build-up out at the next pump out. - if the head is smelling, the fresh water flush will prevent decomposition in the bowl, but make sure that the valves on the head pump / outlet aren't letting anything to flow back from the outlet hose. The joker valve is the usual suspect, but if you're having to pump a lot to prime the pump to get flush water flowing, or to empty the bowl you may want to check the other pump valves too (advice from the list would be to replace the pump assembly completely). Hope this helps. Tim Mojito CC 35-3 Branford, CT On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Bev Parslow via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Four years ago I replaced all the hoses for the 29-2. The boat is used by the family with three young children. The head and holding tank is smelling. What is the best way to get rid of this. I could replace the hoses etc. Any advice? ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
When I first bought my boat and pulled into the dock boat crashed into bulkhead. Turned out the thread on the transmission cable unthreaded from the connecter at the transmission. No matter how much I tightened the lock nut is worked its way out. Finally I put lock tight on the thread and it has held though replacement of the cable and threaded arm would be a more permanent solution. Jerry. C C. 27V J J. Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Nate Flesness via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: You all make me feel good about having just replaced my transmission cable - while safely doing other things in the marina. Now I'm starting to think about the probably 34 year old throttle cableI can imagine the funny story possibilities. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 9:37 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: As a kid I was on a charter boat coming into the main pier in Gallilee RI on a holiday weekend. The skipper shifted into reverse and when nothing happened yelled LOOKOUT. Tore off the bow rail. If it were low tide the cabin or flybridge would have stopped us! Joel On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Coming into Fog Cove, which is a very confined area full of anchored boats, I went to shift into reverse and the shifter was just loose – no connection to the engine anymore. I aimed the boat towards the most open space I could find, gave my wife the helm, and dove into the cockpit locker. I was trying to get the clevis pin back in its place when my foot hit the accumulator tank and knocked the hose off it. The hose whipped around and was shooting water straight up my back while I was doing this. I think I used up my entire store of creative cursing in 30 seconds! Joe Della Barba Coquina CC 35 MK I ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com -- Joel 301 541 8551 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fresh Water pump
Where is the leak? Service kits may be available for this pump. Jabsco renumbered their pumps some time ago. This pump may use the same service kit as a current pump. Barring that, both the Par and Shurflo pumps have good reliability. My experience seems to indicate the Shurflo pumps are slightly quieter. Both have available service kits. I would look at the Shurflo 3.0 GPM Aqua King or the Par Max 2.9 GPM. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Good am all, We had another great weekend on the boat and I finally confirmed that my fresh water pump is the culprit on the leak I've had for a couple months. Easier to fix than finding a leak in the hoses or at a joint somewhere.. The Pump is the original Jabsco with diaphragm and plunger looking thing model 500736 I believe. I only have 3 outlets on board so the extra capacity models can be excluded. Also, I don't really want to up the pressure as I don't want to have to re-wire for more amps and I don't want to overstress the aging plastic connections (I've replaced a few already... Not fun) So that leaves us with the 3.0 GPM range automatic pumps 6 amps or so draw, 40 or so PSI I'd like something quieter and less pulsating would be nice. I have seen an accumulator in the aft sail locker but I don't think it's connected, it was probably working in tandem with the missing water heater..(Yet another project there) . Even narrowed down, there is still a bewildering array of brands, technologies, and prices.. Any suggestions and prior experience wisdom is much appreciated.. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
This was a great Tom Cunlife story from Sail Mag a decade ago, he was kind enough to email me the text as I had forgotten where I had seen it. The missing drawing really added a smile to the story, sorry I don’t have that as well. Little wordy for summer emails, but worth the read! Who’s in Charge – You or the Mainsail? (Sail 2 - June 02.doc) Tom Cunliffe encourages a positive attitude to sailing a yacht, but recalls that the sea is always ready to embarrass even the smartest boat-handlers ‘No need to wait for wind and tide, You’re the masters of the sea!’ So sang Ewan McColl about the first steam driftermen as they joyously consigned their sailing smacks to history and put out into the gales of 1903 with a different point of view. The revolution of marine propulsion transformed the mindset of sailors for ever. It isn’t for fun that young deck officers are still sent to sea in square riggers, and the US Coastguard intend far more than a boost for national prestige when they commission the bark Eagle year after year. Nothing teaches the way of a ship on the ocean like a sailing vessel. High up on the yards, the youngsters take in a turbo-charged hit of self-knowledge and team-work while gulping down a lively appreciation of their own mortality. Down on the bridge, the decision-makers are absorbing a feel for the definitive limits beyond which a wind-driven vessel cannot pass. As this becomes instinctive it not only improves general ship-handling, it also generates an acceptance of the sea as a greater power which marks out better sailors, whatever their ultimate branch of the calling. In a modest way, the same can be true of yachting, yet many of us are content not to extend our sailing ability, preferring to settle for the sort of reasonably snappy performance under power which we all can achieve within a few years. Some, however, choose to perform as many maneuvers as possible under canvas simply for their own satisfaction. Most of the time, the different results of these two approaches are unimportant in terms of ultimate safety. Occasionally, the ability to understand a boat fully that only comes with having her stop, start and even go sideways under sail alone, can make a real difference. Learning to handle a boat is a multi-faceted process. I was lucky enough to cut my teeth in an engineless 25ft cruiser as a teenager. I had stored away the essentials of sailing alongside long before mastering the secret of tight turns under power, so that at eighteen I truly imagined myself a sailor. It was only while studying a subject far removed from seafaring at University that I discovered competitive dinghy racing and found how wrong I was. I also became a strong swimmer by default. Youth being the stuff of adventure, we only bothered to launch the boats when the wind was strong enough to make them plane, and my training sessions ended in wipe-out so often that my room was permanently festooned with foul-smelling woollies. It took weeks of floundering in the cold sea before I fathomed the reason for all those capsizes at the windward mark. The answer was simple. I’d been trying to bear away with my mainsail pinned in, just as I always had in the friendly cruisers that had let me get away with such a crime. One day, I noticed that sailors with classier acts than mine released their mainsheets as they upped the helm. I tried it and the effect was magical. Instead of going into a hideous, unbalanced gripe that tipped me and my long-suffering crew into the Sound, the lively little boat came upright and bore away readily onto a thrilling, stable plane. Next, I spotted my unwitting mentors heaving in their mainsheets to luff up from a standing start, and the whole thing suddenly made sense. Instead of going to lectures, I now spent hours in the boats. First, I steered with the sails when the boat was going too slowly for the rudder to work. Next, I cracked the knack of balancing sheet and helm at speed, rather than suffer the results of one fighting the other. The graduation to sterner stuff came later, but my schooling is so deeply embedded that even today I can feel an over-sheeted mainsail from my bunk. Anyone else trained in dinghies would say the same. Not long ago, I examined an experienced yachtsman for a coastal skipper’s ticket. He was safe enough on passage and proved a caring captain who only came unstuck when I asked him to work out of a creek under sail in a stiff breeze. The waterway was dotted with moorings, not all of which had been laid as conveniently as the casual caller might have wished. At the last bend before the sea, a pricey-looking yacht tethered to a large buoy selected exactly the wrong moment to swing across our path. Any attempt to luff up would have stranded us in the reeds, so our skipper correctly opted to bear away. As if in a motorboat, he ignored all the controls but the wheel, which he cranked well
Stus-List smelly head and tank
I am converting to a composting toilet (Air Head) in a couple weeks. I don't understand why more people on this list have not done the same. When I go into someone else's boat I can almost always smell their holding tank/hoses/whatever. I think people just get used to smelling it and don't notice it after a while. I think they are all smelly. Flushing with fresh water helps because it eliminates the odor of dying sea creatures that would come in thru the seawater intake but it does not eliminate all odors since the primary substance being flushed is still smelly. A larger vent will probably help the most (even up to 1 in diameter). We only have a 15-gallon holding tank which only lasts a few days at most. So, frequent pump outs are necessary and it is becoming costly. The Air Head will pay for itself in 2 to 4 years based on saving pump out costs alone. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List more rookie sail handling questions
Seems simple but.. Sailing a new to me mid 70s 33 3/4ton special. I have run into a couple of unexpected challenges when running or even on a broad reach. I can't seem to get the either quarter stay out of the way to let the main out enough. The lines that control the tension on them are too short to get them out of the way. They run through a double set of blocks. Is that just a rigging mistake or am I missing something? (I just took the boat the way it was rigged). It seems to be a lot of unnecessary work to have to re-thread the blocks or disconnect and reconnect the shackle. Also, when running is winging the jib a common (or acceptable) practice with such a large sail (135 I think)? If so, I would appreciate a suggestion or two in that direction. I don't have a good enough crew to fly the spinnaker. In fact assume I am single handing but with someone to occasionally watch the tiller for me. No tiller tamer or auto-pilot this year. Skip ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
To all attendees and wanna be attendees... We are still waiting for contracts etc from The Alofsin Docks. We hope to have something before we get there but I am not hopeful. Worst case...we all show up and we will figure it out on the fly. Not my way to run a railroad, but it is not my railroad. FYI we are using The Alofsin Docks because it is a great venue (next to Yachting Museum), keeps us all together (as opposed to spread out all over marina) and it is relatively inexpensive dock space. Also If you have signed up and have not paid the fee you will not show up on the Who's Coming list until you pay the fee. Sorry I could not be more specific. See you in a few weeks! David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List smelly head and tank
About 5 years ago I removed a Wilcox Crittendon Headmate from Alianna and replaced it with an electric marine toilet. At that time I also replaced all of the associated sanitary hoses and valves. I flush only with salt water and have never used the holding tank even though I have it setup to use at the switch of a 2-way valve. I have never added chlorox or for that matter anything else, except in winter when the entire system is filled with a 50/50 automotive ethylene glycol/water solution. I have not experienced any head related odors since this change over and now after installing a 4 inch solar vent in the main cabin the boat interior smells quite fresh even after several days of being locked up on the mooring. I believe the biggest improvement resulted from installing the new valves and sanitary hoses. I always do a lengthy flush before leaving the boat, but that flush is still done with salt water. I feel very fortunate for my situation but I can assure you that changing out the old head and sanitary hoses was a very unpleasant job. I am not sure what useful lifetime this system has but my experience suggests that old sanitary lines can contribute to head odor related issues and when I start to notice odors again I will take it as an indication that those lines need changing. Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS _ From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Robert Boyer via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 1:21 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List smelly head and tank I am converting to a composting toilet (Air Head) in a couple weeks. I don't understand why more people on this list have not done the same. When I go into someone else's boat I can almost always smell their holding tank/hoses/whatever. I think people just get used to smelling it and don't notice it after a while. I think they are all smelly. Flushing with fresh water helps because it eliminates the odor of dying sea creatures that would come in thru the seawater intake but it does not eliminate all odors since the primary substance being flushed is still smelly. A larger vent will probably help the most (even up to 1 in diameter). We only have a 15-gallon holding tank which only lasts a few days at most. So, frequent pump outs are necessary and it is becoming costly. The Air Head will pay for itself in 2 to 4 years based on saving pump out costs alone. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame _ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8124 - Release Date: 08/29/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List more rookie sail handling questions
I can't respond to the stay question, as I don't have those, but you can fly your jib 'wing and wing' using a whisker or your spinnaker pole. I do it all the time with a 155. Pole hooked to mast and the jib sheet. If you have a pole lift (topping lift), that makes it easier and keeps the pole from bouncing around so much. Give it a try - I would recommend a preventer for the boom, as you are flirting with the boom flying across the boat as you are going dead downwind. I rig a line from a mid boom bail forward to a snatch block on the rail a bit forward of the shrouds then back to a block on the side of the cabin - if you don't have that, you will have to improvise. Good luck, Gary 30-1 - Original Message - From: Burt Stratton via CnC-List To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 12:26 PM Subject: Stus-List more rookie sail handling questions Seems simple but.. Sailing a new to me mid 70s 33 3/4ton special. I have run into a couple of unexpected challenges when running or even on a broad reach. I can't seem to get the either quarter stay out of the way to let the main out enough. The lines that control the tension on them are too short to get them out of the way. They run through a double set of blocks. Is that just a rigging mistake or am I missing something? (I just took the boat the way it was rigged). It seems to be a lot of unnecessary work to have to re-thread the blocks or disconnect and reconnect the shackle. Also, when running is winging the jib a common (or acceptable) practice with such a large sail (135 I think)? If so, I would appreciate a suggestion or two in that direction. I don't have a good enough crew to fly the spinnaker. In fact assume I am single handing but with someone to occasionally watch the tiller for me. No tiller tamer or auto-pilot this year. Skip -- ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Pedestal
I'd'like to have a look inside my pedestal because the shaft that my wheel is mounted on slides in and out about 1/2 which is a bit disconcerting. I have a 1986 CC 33' mk2 with an Edson pedestal. The compass is mounted on a circular wooden plate. The wood is mounted on a cylinder that has the transmission and throttle levers. Any tips for opening all this up? Thanks, Mike Atacama, Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
David, Sorry to report that work scheduling is going to keep the Enterprise from attending from Western Long Island Sound. My wife and I are, however, planning to come up by car and stay in Newport during the rendezvous. We’ll see you on the dock (assuming you guys actually get a dock). All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: To all attendees and wanna be attendees... We are still waiting for contracts etc from The Alofsin Docks. We hope to have something before we get there but I am not hopeful. Worst case...we all show up and we will figure it out on the fly. Not my way to run a railroad, but it is not my railroad. FYI we are using The Alofsin Docks because it is a great venue (next to Yachting Museum), keeps us all together (as opposed to spread out all over marina) and it is relatively inexpensive dock space. Also If you have signed up and have not paid the fee you will not show up on the Who's Coming list until you pay the fee. Sorry I could not be more specific. See you in a few weeks! David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List dummy move and followup question
Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question
Using good quality and correctly installed BNC connectors should allow enough signal to reach the receiver. There are some good tutorials on the interwebs on how to install a BNC connector. Adding a splice or connector to coax can degrade the signal strength but the better quality connectors are used all the time in other communication gear. Some cables are tuned. You might see this on a depth sounder. Some cables have many conductors (radar) and are difficult to splice. I would increase the price with the added feature of more installation options. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:21 AM To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List dummy move and followup question Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
I will be in the same position as Edd. I will not be able to come by boat but intend to drive up with my wife and will attend dinner and events. Would love to daysail on someones boat who is attending. Jerry JJ 27MkV. -Original Message- From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: David davidrisc...@msn.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Sep 3, 2014 1:14 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta) David, Sorry to report that work scheduling is going to keep the Enterprise from attending from Western Long Island Sound. My wife and I are, however, planning to come up by car and stay in Newport during the rendezvous. We’ll see you on the dock (assuming you guys actually get a dock). All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: To all attendees and wanna be attendees... We are still waiting for contracts etc from The Alofsin Docks. We hope to have something before we get there but I am not hopeful. Worst case...we all show up and we will figure it out on the fly. Not my way to run a railroad, but it is not my railroad. FYI we are using The Alofsin Docks because it is a great venue (next to Yachting Museum), keeps us all together (as opposed to spread out all over marina) and it is relatively inexpensive dock space. Also If you have signed up and have not paid the fee you will not show up on the Who's Coming list until you pay the fee. Sorry I could not be more specific. See you in a few weeks! David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question
Mike — if it’s RG58 cable, try one of these Shakespeare solderless butt splices: http://www.defender.com/product3.jsp?path=-1|344|2028695|2029069id=181454 That should do the trick. Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 CC Landfall 38) -- on the hard in Bayfield, WI :^( On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:20 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question
Mike I have had good luck soldering the central conductors of the coax cable ends together, then wrap that soldered joint with electrical tape, then slide the shield wire together on top of the electrical tape as well as yo can, and wrap it with aluminium foil. Before you start put shrink wrap on one of the separated cable parts and after the aluminium wrap is on slide the shrink warp over the foil and heat to get a tight seal...about 2 inches either side of the joint should be good. This works fine on my gps antenna wire and the joint is only slightly larger diameter than the original wire. Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 2:21 PM To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List dummy move and followup question Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8124 - Release Date: 08/29/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Fresh Water pump
This spring, I was able to replace the diaphragm and valve seals on the Jabsco pump from my 1988 30-2 to stop a leak. It sounds very similar to yours. That model number does not look current, but here is a good selection of rebuild kits: http://www.defender.com/itt-jabsco-pump-service-kits.jsp Jim Reinardy CC 30-2 “Firewater” Milwaukee, WI Sent from Windows Mail From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 10:11 AM To: Jean-Francois J Rivard, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List Where is the leak? Service kits may be available for this pump. Jabsco renumbered their pumps some time ago. This pump may use the same service kit as a current pump. Barring that, both the Par and Shurflo pumps have good reliability. My experience seems to indicate the Shurflo pumps are slightly quieter. Both have available service kits. I would look at the Shurflo 3.0 GPM Aqua King or the Par Max 2.9 GPM. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Jean-Francois J Rivard via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Good am all, We had another great weekend on the boat and I finally confirmed that my fresh water pump is the culprit on the leak I've had for a couple months. Easier to fix than finding a leak in the hoses or at a joint somewhere.. The Pump is the original Jabsco with diaphragm and plunger looking thing model 500736 I believe. I only have 3 outlets on board so the extra capacity models can be excluded. Also, I don't really want to up the pressure as I don't want to have to re-wire for more amps and I don't want to overstress the aging plastic connections (I've replaced a few already... Not fun) So that leaves us with the 3.0 GPM range automatic pumps 6 amps or so draw, 40 or so PSI I'd like something quieter and less pulsating would be nice. I have seen an accumulator in the aft sail locker but I don't think it's connected, it was probably working in tandem with the missing water heater..(Yet another project there) . Even narrowed down, there is still a bewildering array of brands, technologies, and prices.. Any suggestions and prior experience wisdom is much appreciated.. -Francois Rivard 1990 34+ Take Five Lake Lanier, Georgia ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question
the radio amateur handbook has very useful information on splicing. Including 'how good' you can make them. Many libraries have it. Leslie On Wed, 9/3/14, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question To: Hoyt, Mike mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2014, 10:28 AM Using good quality and correctly installed BNC connectors should allow enough signal to reach the receiver. There are some good tutorials on the interwebs on how to install a BNC connector. Adding a splice or connector to coax can degrade the signal strength but the better quality connectors are used all the time in other communication gear. Some cables are tuned. You might see this on a depth sounder. Some cables have many conductors (radar) and are difficult to splice. I would increase the price with the added feature of more installation options. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:21 AM To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List dummy move and followup question Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question
My old Furuno 1720 radar has about 13 conductors, some the same color but different thickenesses...I spliced them all together just by twisting the central wires together and taping the joints...takes a fair bit of time but my signal is my better and much more reliable than the old connector pieces that were supplied with the cable. The joint section is inside the boat under the settee near the base of the mast with several feet of wire to spare on either side so I could do this work in good light and without contorting my body totally out of shape...no need for shrink warp because the joint is dry inside the cabin...I feel this was easier than insatalling a proper connector similar to that which came with the radar unit and the repair has never failed me. Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Martin DeYoung via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 2:29 PM To: Hoyt, Mike; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question Using good quality and correctly installed BNC connectors should allow enough signal to reach the receiver. There are some good tutorials on the interwebs on how to install a BNC connector. Adding a splice or connector to coax can degrade the signal strength but the better quality connectors are used all the time in other communication gear. Some cables are tuned. You might see this on a depth sounder. Some cables have many conductors (radar) and are difficult to splice. I would increase the price with the added feature of more installation options. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 10:21 AM To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List dummy move and followup question Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8124 - Release Date: 08/29/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question
rather than electric tape, save some of the insulator material, split it and place over the soldered central conductor. The rest is same. Leslie. On Wed, 9/3/14, dwight via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Subject: Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question To: 'Hoyt, Mike' mike.h...@impgroup.com, cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2014, 11:21 AM Mike I have had good luck soldering the central conductors of the coax cable ends together, then wrap that soldered joint with electrical tape, then slide the shield wire together on top of the electrical tape as well as yo can, and wrap it with aluminium foil. Before you start put shrink wrap on one of the separated cable parts and after the aluminium wrap is on slide the shrink warp over the foil and heat to get a tight seal...about 2 inches either side of the joint should be good. This works fine on my gps antenna wire and the joint is only slightly larger diameter than the original wire. Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 2:21 PM To: mcrom...@bell.blackberry.net; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List dummy move and followup question Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2014.0.4745 / Virus Database: 4015/8124 - Release Date: 08/29/14 ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
Cant you guys trailer? UPDATE! Website now has dockage contact info and I sent an email out with a reservation form attached that is now is limbo as it may be too large for distribution. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) To: e...@schillay.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 13:33:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta) From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I will be in the same position as Edd. I will not be able to come by boat but intend to drive up with my wife and will attend dinner and events. Would love to daysail on someones boat who is attending. Jerry JJ 27MkV. -Original Message- From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: David davidrisc...@msn.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Sep 3, 2014 1:14 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta) David, Sorry to report that work scheduling is going to keep the Enterprise from attending from Western Long Island Sound. My wife and I are, however, planning to come up by car and stay in Newport during the rendezvous. We’ll see you on the dock (assuming you guys actually get a dock). All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: To all attendees and wanna be attendees... We are still waiting for contracts etc from The Alofsin Docks. We hope to have something before we get there but I am not hopeful. Worst case...we all show up and we will figure it out on the fly. Not my way to run a railroad, but it is not my railroad. FYI we are using The Alofsin Docks because it is a great venue (next to Yachting Museum), keeps us all together (as opposed to spread out all over marina) and it is relatively inexpensive dock space. Also If you have signed up and have not paid the fee you will not show up on the Who's Coming list until you pay the fee. Sorry I could not be more specific. See you in a few weeks! David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Pedestal
Mike, I had Perceptions (1985 CC 33-II) apart (again) last weekend to fish a new GPS antenna. Mine has the compass, which removes with bolts 2 visible, 2 hidden under caps. Once the compass is off there are 4 bolts that hold the compass base to the pedestal - they pass thru the cylinder with the engine controls, and thread into the compass base. Be prepared for these to be very difficult to remove if they have not been done for a while! You will likely want to order replacement bolts before removing them . The first time I did it they were seized. The new ones from Edson are aluminum so no compatibility issues. While I had it apart I did replace the bushings on the throttle and shifter levers. Call Edson - they are very helpful. Here is the diagram of the Pedestal from Edson's website -: http://www.edsonmarine.com/support/ped_repl_parts.php Where do you keep your boat? There is a large fleet of CC 33-II's in Oakville, Burlington Hamilton that race as a class We are at Newport Yacht Club in Stoney Creek. Paul Fountain -Original Message- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Michael Crombie via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 1:11 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Pedestal I'd'like to have a look inside my pedestal because the shaft that my wheel is mounted on slides in and out about 1/2 which is a bit disconcerting. I have a 1986 CC 33' mk2 with an Edson pedestal. The compass is mounted on a circular wooden plate. The wood is mounted on a cylinder that has the transmission and throttle levers. Any tips for opening all this up? Thanks, Mike Atacama, Toronto Sent wirelessly from my BlackBerry device on the Bell network. Envoyé sans fil par mon terminal mobile BlackBerry sur le réseau de Bell. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.commailto:CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Red spots under transmission...Oh My!
We just completed our 2nd annual Grand Sailing Adventure - 2 weeks cruising. We went over 500 miles (Racine WI to Charlevoix MI) and back and motored most of it. Near the end I noticed transmission fluid leaking - or spraying - underneath the trans. LF38 with a Westerbeke 27 and a V-Drive transmission. I've never had any issues with oil or trans leaking. I checked the fluid levels...no detectable decrease on the dipstick, but, there is only about a quarter inch area at the bottom of the stick to show the fluid levels. When I wiped the bottom of the trans off with a paper towel I could not detect where the fluid was coming from. It doesn't appear to be a drip, but, more like a spray just underneath the trans. I might suspect some sort of seal between the trans and shaft, but, am pretty clueless about how it is all put together. Has anybody else encountered a similar problem? I am asking for a probable diagnosis and how much trouble I am in for. I have about 6 weeks left in the season with a few weekend sails and then, probably, motoring for 5 hours or so to the winter haulout. Am I safe to keep using it? It us usually pretty normal for a pretty loud clunk when shifting from neutral to forward or reversebut it hasn't slipped or failed. yet... Spencer Johnson 1984 LF38 Alegria Racine, WI (home in Mount Prospect, IL) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Red spots under transmission...Oh My!
Probably safe for a few more YEARS as long as you keep a close eye on the fluid level. It will be more work to keep the bildge clear of oil. Just get a oil absorbing pillow. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 3, 2014 5:09 PM, Spencer Johnson via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: We just completed our 2nd annual Grand Sailing Adventure - 2 weeks cruising. We went over 500 miles (Racine WI to Charlevoix MI) and back and motored most of it. Near the end I noticed transmission fluid leaking - or spraying - underneath the trans. LF38 with a Westerbeke 27 and a V-Drive transmission. I've never had any issues with oil or trans leaking. I checked the fluid levels...no detectable decrease on the dipstick, but, there is only about a quarter inch area at the bottom of the stick to show the fluid levels. When I wiped the bottom of the trans off with a paper towel I could not detect where the fluid was coming from. It doesn't appear to be a drip, but, more like a spray just underneath the trans. I might suspect some sort of seal between the trans and shaft, but, am pretty clueless about how it is all put together. Has anybody else encountered a similar problem? I am asking for a probable diagnosis and how much trouble I am in for. I have about 6 weeks left in the season with a few weekend sails and then, probably, motoring for 5 hours or so to the winter haulout. Am I safe to keep using it? It us usually pretty normal for a pretty loud clunk when shifting from neutral to forward or reversebut it hasn't slipped or failed. yet... Spencer Johnson 1984 LF38 Alegria Racine, WI (home in Mount Prospect, IL) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Quarter stays?
Quarter stay? Do you mean runners or checkstays? They should have tails long enough to ease the leeward set of blocks to the chainplates. They are used differently on fractional rigs than masthead rigs. See Selden sight to better understand the various rigging terms. http://www.seldenmast.com/files/595-540-E.pdf Chuck Resolute 1990 CC 34R Broad Creek, Magothy River, Md - Original Message - From: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: CNC boat owners, cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2014 12:26:44 PM Subject: Stus-List more rookie sail handling questions Seems simple but…. Sailing a “new to me” mid 70s 33 3/4ton special. I have run into a couple of unexpected challenges when running or even on a broad reach. I can’t seem to get the either quarter stay out of the way to let the main out enough. The lines that control the tension on them are too short to get them out of the way. They run through a double set of blocks. Is that just a rigging mistake or am I missing something? (I just took the boat the way it was rigged). It seems to be a lot of unnecessary work to have to re-thread the blocks or disconnect and reconnect the shackle. Also, when running is winging the jib a common (or acceptable) practice with such a large sail (135 I think)? If so, I would appreciate a suggestion or two in that direction. I don’t have a good enough crew to fly the spinnaker. In fact assume I am single handing but with someone to occasionally watch the tiller for me. No tiller tamer or auto-pilot this year. Skip ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List dummy move and followup question
You can fix it easy. Check out this guide. https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B8pEh5lnvP1yMTRmMzIxYTktMDcxOS00NmMyLTg0ZDQtODg1NjU5N2ZkMGJl/edit?usp=docslist_api Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 3, 2014 1:20 PM, Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Our new to us boat came with a Furuno GP31 GPS and external antenna with the GPS mounted in Nav Station. Helm had a much newer Garmin 740. We decided to replace Furuno with a new Raymarine MFD chartplotter at Nav Station. The antenna was still in place. I had posted the Furuno on Kijiji and have an interested buyer. Unfortunately now that we have a liveable interior we also have headliners etc which are one of the biggest curses on a sailboat. While attempting to remove the Antenna I had the cable removed for about half its length after removing way to many access panels but it was stuck somewhere in the nether reaches of the boat. One slightly too aggressive tug and I now have an antenna with two pieces of cable (much easier to remove by the way). So I have been reading about splicing GPS antenna cables. This one is Coax style and there has been a lot of information that BNC ends and a barrel connector will work. Does anyone (especially Fred) have experience and advice on this? I think I may have just reduced my selling price to zero and may be making a gift of the unit to the potential buyer Mike ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List more rookie sail handling questions
I call them check stays. On mine the fiddle blocks that are attached for tightening them have snap shackles. I can pop the shackle and move them forward on the toe rail. Generally they are a bit of a pain and are at the bottom of the list of things to. The PO told me they prevent the mast from pumping but I have never observed this pumping phenomenon. IMO the best way to wing and wing is to set a jibe preventer and sail the main WAY out with the wind just shy of a jibe. This keeps the headsail well filled without the need for a pole. A pole can help if you need to go dead down but is just more equipment, more work and needs to be secured prior to changing course. We sailed 50 miles downwind 15-20kts from Barcelona to Targona this way (preventor and no pole) with 10-12' swells from the rear. Thank goodness for the preventor. Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 CC 37+ Solomons, MD On Sep 3, 2014 12:27 PM, Burt Stratton via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: Seems simple but Sailing a new to me mid 70s 33 3/4ton special. I have run into a couple of unexpected challenges when running or even on a broad reach. I can't seem to get the either quarter stay out of the way to let the main out enough. The lines that control the tension on them are too short to get them out of the way. They run through a double set of blocks. Is that just a rigging mistake or am I missing something? (I just took the boat the way it was rigged). It seems to be a lot of unnecessary work to have to re-thread the blocks or disconnect and reconnect the shackle. Also, when running is winging the jib a common (or acceptable) practice with such a large sail (135 I think)? If so, I would appreciate a suggestion or two in that direction. I don't have a good enough crew to fly the spinnaker. In fact assume I am single handing but with someone to occasionally watch the tiller for me. No tiller tamer or auto-pilot this year. Skip ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta)
Would love to be there but life just seems to get in the way of progress. Have fun and raise a glass to all of us who are not there J John and Maryann Legacy III 1982 CC 34 Noank, CT From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of David via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 3:58 PM To: Jerome Tauber; Edd Schillay; CNC CNC Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta) Cant you guys trailer? UPDATE! Website now has dockage contact info and I sent an email out with a reservation form attached that is now is limbo as it may be too large for distribution. David F. Risch (401) 419-4650 (cell) _ To: e...@schillay.com; cnc-list@cnc-list.com Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2014 13:33:06 -0400 Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta) From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com I will be in the same position as Edd. I will not be able to come by boat but intend to drive up with my wife and will attend dinner and events. Would love to daysail on someones boat who is attending. Jerry JJ 27MkV. -Original Message- From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com To: David davidrisc...@msn.com; cnc-list cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Wed, Sep 3, 2014 1:14 pm Subject: Re: Stus-List 2014 C C NE Rendezvous Update (sorta) David, Sorry to report that work scheduling is going to keep the Enterprise from attending from Western Long Island Sound. My wife and I are, however, planning to come up by car and stay in Newport during the rendezvous. We'll see you on the dock (assuming you guys actually get a dock). All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise CC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log http://enterpriseb.blogspot.com/ On Sep 3, 2014, at 12:49 PM, David via CnC-List cnc-list@cnc-list.com wrote: To all attendees and wanna be attendees... We are still waiting for contracts etc from The Alofsin Docks. We hope to have something before we get there but I am not hopeful. Worst case...we all show up and we will figure it out on the fly. Not my way to run a railroad, but it is not my railroad. FYI we are using The Alofsin Docks because it is a great venue (next to Yachting Museum), keeps us all together (as opposed to spread out all over marina) and it is relatively inexpensive dock space. Also If you have signed up and have not paid the fee you will not show up on the Who's Coming list until you pay the fee. Sorry I could not be more specific. See you in a few weeks! David F. Risch 1981 40-2 (401) 419-4650 (cell) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Stus-List Red spots under transmission...Oh My!
You will probably need new shaft seals. It will cost $1200 to $2000 to have it done, depending on what else they find when the tear it apart. As long as you keep up the fluid level you can continue to use it for the remainder of the season. I used my boat for several weeks this way, but I went thru a lot of transmission fluid. By the way, I tried several stop leak products and none of them worked. You can look on my blog for a description of what I went thru with mine. During the process I leaned that v-drive transmissions usually require a rebuild every 1500 engine hours. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapolis MD 1983 CC Landfall 38 - Hull #230 email: dainyr...@icloud.com blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com There is nothing--absolutely nothing--half so much worth doing as simply messing about in boats. --Kenneth Grahame___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Red spots under transmission...Oh My!
The last time I noticed fluid leaking from around Calypso's reduction gear it originated from the oil cooler lines. Does Alegria's reduction gear have a heat exchanger? If so how old are its hoses and have the zincs been checked lately? I agree with the other responses in that it is safe to operate as long as the fluid level is kept up. For entertainment check out today's 'Lectronic Latitude (http://www.latitude38.com/lectronic/lectronicday.lasso?date=2014-09-03#Story4) for a story on an engine lube oil leak that got out of hand. Martin Calypso 1971 CC 43 Seattle [Description: Description: cid:D1BF9853-22F7-47FB-86F2-4115CE0BAF2F] From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Spencer Johnson via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 2:10 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Stus-List Red spots under transmission...Oh My! We just completed our 2nd annual Grand Sailing Adventure - 2 weeks cruising. We went over 500 miles (Racine WI to Charlevoix MI) and back and motored most of it. Near the end I noticed transmission fluid leaking - or spraying - underneath the trans. LF38 with a Westerbeke 27 and a V-Drive transmission. I've never had any issues with oil or trans leaking. I checked the fluid levels...no detectable decrease on the dipstick, but, there is only about a quarter inch area at the bottom of the stick to show the fluid levels. When I wiped the bottom of the trans off with a paper towel I could not detect where the fluid was coming from. It doesn't appear to be a drip, but, more like a spray just underneath the trans. I might suspect some sort of seal between the trans and shaft, but, am pretty clueless about how it is all put together. Has anybody else encountered a similar problem? I am asking for a probable diagnosis and how much trouble I am in for. I have about 6 weeks left in the season with a few weekend sails and then, probably, motoring for 5 hours or so to the winter haulout. Am I safe to keep using it? It us usually pretty normal for a pretty loud clunk when shifting from neutral to forward or reversebut it hasn't slipped or failed. yet... Spencer Johnson 1984 LF38 Alegria Racine, WI (home in Mount Prospect, IL) ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long)
Good one Dwight. I bet many missed this, but my guess is that Dennis did not. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35-1 At 05:31 AM 03/09/2014, you wrote: I totally agree the CC 35 MKI is a wonderful sail boat and well worth a diesel repower Dwight Veinot CC 35MKII, Alianna Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS -- From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: September 3, 2014 7:34 AM To: Dennis C.; CC List Subject: Re: Stus-List Transmission/throttle control - now funny story (long) Dennis, She sounds like a keeper! Gary '75 CC 35 Mk II East Greenwich, RI, USA ~~~_/)~~ Oh. ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
Re: Stus-List more rookie sail handling questions
Hi Skip, If those quarter stays are also known as running backstays or checkstays it is not uncommon to have them appear too short on a boat that is race set-up. On typical windward-leeward courses when running to the leeward mark your gybe angles will not have the main let free as you might when cruising. Also it is not uncommon to have the boom let onto the slack (lee) checkstay at these gybe angles. So for more gentlemanly sailing I suggest you add a bit o' length to these lines. Cheers, Russ Sweet 35 mk-1 At 09:26 AM 03/09/2014, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary==_NextPart_000_01B3_01CFC772.52DA4870 Content-Language: en-us Seems simple but . Sailing a new to me mid 70s 33 3/4ton special. I have run into a couple of unexpected challenges when running or even on a broad reach. I cant seem to get the either quarter stay out of the way to let the main out enough. The lines that control the tension on them are too short to get them out of the way. They run through a double set of blocks. Is that just a rigging mistake or am I missing something? (I just took the boat the way it was rigged). It seems to be a lot of unnecessary work to have to re-thread the blocks or disconnect and reconnect the shackle. Also, when running is winging the jib a common (or acceptable) practice with such a large sail (135 I think)? If so, I would appreciate a suggestion or two in that direction. I dont have a good enough crew to fly the spinnaker. In fact assume I am single handing but with someone to occasionally watch the tiller for me. No tiller tamer or auto-pilot this year. Skip ___ This List is provided by the CC Photo Album Email address: CnC-List@cnc-list.com To change your list preferences, including unsubscribing -- go bottom of page at: http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com
