Stus-List Re: What are these

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

They look like ferrules for a compression pipe connection to me

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Date: Sat, 9 Mar 2024 15:20:32 -0500

I was sorting through my miscellaneous box from the boat and came across these. 
Any idea what they are?  Dave
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Stus-List Re: Hull painting

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Richard, 1st, I'm sorry for the ordeal you're going through.  I had a similar episode a few years ago.  I haven't heard anything about iron but, awlgrip is repairable.  Certain colors are more difficult to blend but, I've never heard anyone say awgrip couldn't be repaired.  There is also awlcraft 2000 which is supposed to be easier to repair.  When I had Rum Runner painted we went with awgrip on the top sides and awlcraft 2000 for the deck and mast.  I was very happy with the results. As far as color, flag blue is always stunning.  We went with stars and stripes blue on Rum Runner.  It's a beautiful color but, it's one that's hard to blend.  However, there were some repairs done to that and, it wasn't that bad to my eye.  Awlgrip is a really tough finish.  I'm not sure if I'd go for something else given awlgrip's history and reputation.  UNLESS, there was a huge cost savings in the product and they could point me to happy customers with the iron.Best of luck! DannyOn Aug 22, 2023 12:51 AM, Richard Bush via CnC-List  wrote:Hi all, we are in the midst of trying to repair  damages to our hull (1985 C 37 CB) which stemmed from another boat parting its dock line in a storm and laying against our hull for 2+ hours, tearing the paint and gelcoat from the waterline to the rub rail. It's a long tale of woe, however, we are nearing the part of our project where painting the hull topsides is being discussed.  The boat was painted with Awlgrip about 10 years ago (prior to our ownership), and that finish has held up well. Also, because of the paint being 10 years old, it has been "strongly recommended" that the entire hull be repainted, rather than the damaged area only, with which we agree. I "assumed" that we would go back with the same Awlgrip product, however, the repair people have suggested that Imron would be a better product because scratches and dings can be repaired more easily.  They advised that the old Awlgrip would be sanded off and the a base coat and clear coating over the color coat.  Does anyone on the list have any experience with Imron paints (marine, of course); or Imron vs Awlgrip: Another qualifier is that our area (Ohio River) is not a big boating community and there are few boating repair facilities here; (getting the boat to the repair facility is a whole other story all by itself!) One last point, is, color; our hull is the C factory white, don;t know the name, but its an off-white almost cream color; we are thinking of going back with flag blue or navy blue; any thoughts here are welcome as well. As always, thank you and let me know if you have any questions!Richard1985 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 584;Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255




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Stus-List Re: Finally we have launched for the season!

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Mike,She's stunning!  congrats on the beautiful work and the launchDanny

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Subject: Stus-List Finally we have launched for the season!
Date: Wed, 24 May 2023 12:24:04 +


Topsides paint job is now complete with boot and cove stripes and the boat back 
together and in the water
 
We are very pleased with the work done by East River Shipyard in Nova Scotia
 
The end result can be seen here  www.hoytsailing.com
 
Aside from 2020 when marine services in our club were shut down into May this 
is the latest we have ever launched!
 
Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
 
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Stus-List Re: To sell or not to sell

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

You can always list it and see what happens.   If it didn't sell in a predetermined period of time, have it shipped.   If you know a broker, they could run comps on sold boats for you.  That way you'll have a better idea of your boat's worth.   I think the updates and upgrades certainty make your boat more appealing but, probably doesn't add too much to the price.   Good luck! DannyOn Mar 27, 2023 6:05 PM, Thomas Perison via CnC-List  wrote:Greetings all - 
Long-time follower, believe this is my 1st post.  …welcoming all input / advice from the elders…
-sorry in advance for the long post - 

Background: My boat “Therapy” (29 mkII) currently is berthed in Solomons MD. I moved to Buffalo NY this past fall (the “why” is a long story …planning on trucking her here this spring (have quotes etc). 
Debating about selling her in MD vs the ~$4k moving cost.   I have put extensive work ($) in her over the past 5 yrs: new electronics w/NMEA 2000 /  running rigging / interior / exterior cushions / Bimini & dodger / traveler & main sheet; lifelines,  lights; among other things. 
I know most of that doesn’t translate to much add’l value….online ads range from $teens to low $20s. 
My main question..thoughts on the least-bad option:  sell in MD or bear the cost to truck her to WNY? 
I believe she’s worth about $20k…thinking realistically.  
Before y’all think I’m throwing out the anchor - there is a very nice 35-Mk III for sale locally…! 

Cheers ! 
Tom 
“Therapy”
1984 29-Mk II 
Solomons MD 


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Stus-List Re: Sail costs

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I paid about $3600, in 2016, for a 135% heavy duty off shore with, sunbrella sun protection, foam to help with shape when furled, extra stitching blah blah blah, for a 40 tartan. DannyCurrently BoatlessOn Mar 18, 2023 9:54 AM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  wrote:

  
   Sail costs:  A new light air genoa was quoted at $5200 for my 36 footer, so I decided instead to have repairs made to my old sails.   They repaired my #2 for $700.  They will alter my #3 for a little more.  They are removing horizontal battens and installing vertical battens, and adding UV, so it can be furled.  I've chosen to use Chesapeake Sailmakers because they are service oriented, came out and measured my rig before I spent any money, and they took time to evaluate my sails and offer options.
   
  
  
   
  
  
   Wonder what others are paying for new sails and/or repairs.  
   
  
  
   
  
  
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
  
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

that swim platform in the photo reminds me of an Island Packet

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From: "paul.hood via CnC-List" 
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 14:40:16 -0500


Hey Randy Are you maybe thinking of a Passport.  That's the only one I can 
think of that starts with P   Sent from my Galaxy   Original message 
From: Randy Stafford via CnC-List Date: 
2023-02-23 2:24 p.m. (GMT-05:00)To: Stus-List Cc: Randy 
Stafford Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again At 
the end of that Newport -> St. Thomas delivery I crewed in November 2021, there 
was a beautiful traditional-looking ~50-foot monohull cutter that tied up 
behind us at the AYH fuel dock in Red Hook.  It had just made the same voyage 
we did, I learned.  I asked the skipper what kind of boat it was.  I 
cant quite remember his answer, but I think it had the word 
Passage in it.  Does that ring a bell for anyone?  Ever heard of 
a boat brand with the word Passage in it?  I think it is in the 
center of this picture, S/V Grateful Dad: 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZbMB5nUEanRw5RtRyJ7MehAN4w-ZdGVO/view?usp=share_link.
 Cheers,RandyOn Feb 23, 2023, at 9:04 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Good point Dave!  I do notice, a lot of the boats 
I'm looking at, on line, do have bow thrusters.  Of course, I'm rarely at dock 
for more than filling up and washing down.  But, I do like the idea of those 
types of modern tech!  (how modern is it really?)-- Original Message 
--From: David Risch via CnC-List To: Stus-List 
Cc: David Risch Subject: Stus-List 
Re: Boatless againDate: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 15:04:40 + Danny,
 I may be preaching to the choir here and you may have already thought of this 
but Oyster 47 handling vs. Tartan 40 handling is a different order of magnitude 
in close maneuvering.   Not the size per se, but the weight.  A thrusting bow 
may something to look for.   
 From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List   Sent: Thursday, 
February 23, 2023 8:43 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
 I was lust looking at a local Oyster 47 listing.  I Really like how it looks!  
Ticks a lot of boxes!  If I can stay away from the newer flat bottoms, I would 
be really happy!  I got to keep the admiral happy though...  She did find a 
Trinella that looks really nice, it a Ron Holland design.  So, there is hope!  
-- Original Message -- From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 To: Stus-List  Cc: Andrew Burton 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again Date: Wed, 22 
Feb 2023 15:00:40 -0500  Hi Danny,  I think an Oyster 47 might check those 
boxes. Good-sailing, well-built boat and very comfy. I made fairly quick 
passages to Antigua and back on one a few years ago.  If you need to be more 
performance-oriented, theres a sister to Masquerade (Baltic 47) around 
that I bet will be on the market some day in the not too distant future. Cheers 
Andy  Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI  USA02840  
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Good point Dave!  I do notice, a lot of the boats I'm looking at, on line, do 
have bow thrusters.  Of course, I'm rarely at dock for more than filling up and 
washing down.  But, I do like the idea of those types of modern tech!  (how 
modern is it really?)

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From: David Risch via CnC-List 
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Cc: David Risch 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 15:04:40 +


Danny,
 
I may be preaching to the choir here and you may have already thought of this 
but Oyster 47 handling vs. Tartan 40 handling is a different order of magnitude 
in close maneuvering.   Not the size per se, but the weight.  A thrusting bow 
may something to look for.   
 
From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 8:43 AM
 To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
 Cc: Danny Haughey 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
 
I was lust looking at a local Oyster 47 listing.  I Really like how it looks!  
Ticks a lot of boxes!  If I can stay away from the newer flat bottoms, I would 
be really happy!  I got to keep the admiral happy though...  She did find a 
Trinella that looks really nice, it a Ron Holland design.  So, there is hope!
 
 -- Original Message --
 From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Andrew Burton 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
 Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 15:00:40 -0500
 
 Hi Danny, 
 I think an Oyster 47 might check those boxes. Good-sailing, well-built 
boat and very comfy. I made fairly quick passages to Antigua and back on one a 
few years ago. 
 If you need to be more performance-oriented, theres a sister to 
Masquerade (Baltic 47) around that I bet will be on the market some day in the 
not too distant future.
 Cheers
 Andy
 
 Andrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI 
 USA02840
 
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I haven't completely crossed those off the list but, we do enjoy a good 
performer.  So, they're not high on the list.  Most of the ones I saw have a 
bolted on swim platform.  I don't really like the look of that.

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Cc: Martin DeYoung , Neil Andersen 

Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 14:51:45 +


For a center console that does NOT have the European feel, what about an Island 
Packet.  Not exactly a speed demon, but very roomy and great storage aboard.  
Neil Andersen, W3NEA Rock Hall, MD 21661484-354-8800From: Joel Delamirande via 
CnC-List 
 Sent: Thursday, February 23, 2023 9:24:46 AM
 To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Martin DeYoung ; Joel Delamirande 

 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again I love also amel marmuYear 2000
On Thu, Feb 23, 2023 at 8:54 AM Matt Wolford via CnC-List 
 wrote:Martin:
 
Say it aint so.
 
My wife and I have the same deal.  I had two conditions: 1) 
college tuitions are all paid; and 2) we win the Wolford Trophy (a two-day race 
series named after my Dad) on the 42 Custom.  We won the Wolford Trophy last 
fall (two firsts).  I have about two years to go on college tuition.
 
Matt
C 42 Custom
 
From: Martin DeYoung via CnC-List  
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 2:53 PM
 To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Martin DeYoung 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
 
We are preparing to list Calypso for sale in the near future but a 1971 C 43 
doesnt meet Dannys list of desired features.  My wife has 
called in the promise I made when we first bought Calypso. This  means she gets 
to pick our next boat. To her credit she has waited well over 20 years to call 
in that marker.  Much to my concern shes focusing on classic wooden 
power boats. One shes looking at even has gas engines.
 
If someone wanted to cruise the west coast of Mexico Calypso is well set up for 
that as that was our plan when we first brought it out to Seattle.
 
Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow
 
 
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From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List
 Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2023 11:30 AM
 To: Stus-List
 Cc: Joel Aronson
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
 
Danny,
C 43?
Hylas 46/49/54/56 (no separate shower on the 49)
Outbound 46 (hard to find)
Bristol (older)
 
Good luck with the search!
Joel
 
On Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:42 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hi guys,
 
So, We sold Rum Runner IV and we're going to start the process for our next 
boat.
I'm not really sure who said that selling a boat is typically a happy day for a 
boater.  This is our 3rd sailboat sold, and we've been sad to see each of them 
go.
We'd been discussing going to something a bit more modern, with more room.  So, 
as the boat was in really great condition, I thought I would list it and see if 
anyone was interested.  
I've bee eyeing center cockpit designs.  Some of our desired features are,
about 45 - 50 feet,
at least a sugar scoop transom if not walk thru,
larger cockpit (as most of our time, on board, is spent there)
lighter, brighter interior,
a good sized head with separate shower
a nice master suite with an island berth
 
Anyway, if anyone knows of any vessels we might want to check out, let me know!
 
Danny
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I was lust looking at a local Oyster 47 listing.  I Really like how it looks!  
Ticks a lot of boxes!  If I can stay away from the newer flat bottoms, I would 
be really happy!  I got to keep the admiral happy though...  She did find a 
Trinella that looks really nice, it a Ron Holland design.  So, there is hope!

-- Original Message --
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2023 15:00:40 -0500

Hi Danny, 
I think an Oyster 47 might check those boxes. Good-sailing, well-built 
boat and very comfy. I made fairly quick passages to Antigua and back on one a 
few years ago. 
If you need to be more performance-oriented, theres a sister to 
Masquerade (Baltic 47) around that I bet will be on the market some day in the 
not too distant future.
Cheers
Andy

Andrew Burton
26 Beacon Hill
Newport, RI 
USA02840

http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+401 965-5260
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Stus-List Re: Boats to avoid; formerly- Boatless again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I'm not sure there is much research that went into this comment.  Most of the 
boats you listed have been around for decades and some are amazingly designed 
and of high quality construction.  I think Andy was talking more about the 
triangular shaped, (in plan) modern boats that are almost catamaran-like.  
These boats are, lightweight, flat bottomed boats, with a hard chine on each 
side,  In essence, creating 2 hulls, one for each tack.  However, the interior 
vary, Moody's interior are very traditional, with plenty of wood, curved 
corners and plenty of hand holds.  The older Hylas, oyster, Holland boats, I'm 
looking at are pretty traditional.  One is even designed by Sparkman and 
Stevens. This will be our 4th sail boat, hence, our 4th shopping experience, 
and one thing I can say with certainty, is there are plenty of surprises in 
boat shopping.  You simply can't make these sweeping generalizations with any 
degree of certainty.  There are some beautifully fitted out Bavaria's from the 
late 90s early 2000s.  The boat shows simply can't be a real gauge of the used 
boat market.  Hell, Catalina actually produced an amazingly well build 38 
footer that was designed by Sparkman and Stevens with plywood cored decks and 
solid fiberglass hull. Making an argument as to why you're hanging onto your 
boat is great.  But to dismiss quality brans, wholesale like that, is just not 
helpful banter.  Thanks for the input, though. Danny

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Cc: Richard Bush 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boats to avoid; formerly- Boatless again
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2023 04:00:47 + (UTC)


I was pleased to read Andrew Burton's comments about the modern trendy boats 
(hylas, oyster, moody, Holland, Bavaria, Dufour etc., ); when someasked him 
what to avoid, he said..."... Im just not a fan of that ilk. Plus the 
interiors tend to be a bit ikea-ish with lots of sharp corners and few 
handholds."
 Andy, thank you, thank you; I have long felt that way, and it is nice to hear 
a person with your experience (and credentials) finally say it! 
 That is a major reason I have held on to my C 37;  boats that can provide 
what it provides are going to cost 10 times what I have in my boat and don't 
handle as well..!   Richards/v Bushmark4: 1085 C 37 CB; Ohio River, Mile 596; 
 Richard N. Bush Law Offices2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite NineLouisville, 
Kentucky 40220(502) 584-7255  -Original Message-
 From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Andrew Burton 
 Sent: Wed, Feb 22, 2023 5:34 pm
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Boatless again
 
Not really. Im just not a fan of that ilk. Plus the interiors tend to be 
a bit ikea-ish with lots of sharp corners and few handholds.Andrew BurtonOn Feb 
22, 2023, at 17:32, DJ via CnC-List  wrote:Andy, Would 
have any suggestions as to what to stay clear of? 
 On Feb 22, 2023 4:21 PM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
wrote:Danny, Ive delivered several modern fat-assed boats and though 
they tick a lot of boxes, they do not sail well unless youre on your ear 
because of all the wetted surface.AndyAndrew Burton On Feb 22, 2023, at 16:01, 
Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:I've got hylas, 
oyster, moody, Ron Holland on my list so far. Maybe a Bavaria, or Dufour but, 
those can really slam going to wind...
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Stus-List Re: Boatless again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hey guys thanks for the suggestions. I've got hylas, oyster, moody, Ron Holland on my list so far.Maybe a Bavaria, or Dufour but, those can really slam going to wind...The ones that interest me currently are more than I want to spend but, I have a feeling there is going to be a change in the boat market over the next 18 to 24 months...On Feb 22, 2023 3:34 PM, david coleman via CnC-List  wrote:Danny,I have a 1984 c 43 landfall if you need to ask questions.It does not tick all of your boxes like sugar scoop etc but has many features  you listed .After you get a short list developed  let me know if I can help.Most of the boats listed on this thread  are not in my budget.My experience  is any boat Is a compromise   of  priorities. Good LuckDavidOn Wed, Feb 22, 2023, 2:31 PM Joel Aronson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Danny,C 43?Hylas 46/49/54/56 (no separate shower on the 49)Outbound 46 (hard to find)Bristol (older)Good luck with the search!JoelOn Wed, Feb 22, 2023 at 1:42 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Hi guys,
 
So, We sold Rum Runner IV and we're going to start the process for our next boat.
I'm not really sure who said that selling a boat is typically a happy day for a boater.  This is our 3rd sailboat sold, and we've been sad to see each of them go.
We'd been discussing going to something a bit more modern, with more room.  So, as the boat was in really great condition, I thought I would list it and see if anyone was interested.  
I've bee eyeing center cockpit designs.  Some of our desired features are,
about 45 - 50 feet,
at least a sugar scoop transom if not walk thru,
larger cockpit (as most of our time, on board, is spent there)
lighter, brighter interior,
a good sized head with separate shower
a nice master suite with an island berth
 
Anyway, if anyone knows of any vessels we might want to check out, let me know!
 
Danny
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Stus-List Boatless again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi guys, So, We sold Rum Runner IV and we're going to start the process for our 
next boat.I'm not really sure who said that selling a boat is typically a happy 
day for a boater.  This is our 3rd sailboat sold, and we've been sad to see 
each of them go.We'd been discussing going to something a bit more modern, with 
more room.  So, as the boat was in really great condition, I thought I would 
list it and see if anyone was interested.  I've bee eyeing center cockpit 
designs.  Some of our desired features are,about 45 - 50 feet,at least a sugar 
scoop transom if not walk thru,larger cockpit (as most of our time, on board, 
is spent there)lighter, brighter interior,a good sized head with separate 
showera nice master suite with an island berth Anyway, if anyone knows of any 
vessels we might want to check out, let me know! DannyPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help 
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Stus-List Re: TowBoatUS is it worth it?

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I would never own a boat without it. DannyOn Jan 14, 2023 1:56 PM, Bob Mann via CnC-List  wrote:

  
   Chuck,
   
  
  
   
  
  
   unless you're going far and need a tow, it sounds like you've got your situations covered.  I've used them once, when I couldn't start the engine after a race. Of course, I was all of 1.5 miles off shore :(
  
  
   
  
  
   I'm now doing longer races, including Port Huron to Mackinac.  A tow from anywhere back to my home port is well worth the cost of the insurance.
  
  
   
  
  
   Bob
  
  
   Mystic
  
  
   Detroit
  
  
   
On 01/14/2023 1:50 PM CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List  wrote:
   
   

   
   

   
   
Hi Guys, 

   
   
Got a question for the shallow water sailors like those in Chesapeake Bay.
   
   

   
   
I'm thinking whether to buy TowBoatUS for peace of mind this coming season.  I've owned my boat for twenty years and though I do run aground a few times each year, I always get off faily easily by backing out or spinning the keel free.    My batteries are older and I might need a jump start after anchoring out.  I keep a jumpstarter aboard for that situation and can easily check the charge.
   
   

   
   
Are there any benefits I am missing that the membership provides?  TowBoatUS requires thirty days before benefits are effective, so February looks a good time to join if I do.
   
   

   
   
Thanks,
   
   
Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C 34R, Annapolis
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Stus-List Re: East coast boat yards?

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Hi Dave, what kind of boat are you looking to purchase? DannyOn Jan 5, 2023 5:40 AM, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:Thanks Andrew and all others who responded with excellent info.   Just walked away from one potential purchase, but there are many others out there...   Will be reaching directly out once I pull the trigger.Many thanks again!Dave 33-2On Mon, 2 Jan 2023 at 19:26, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:I’m keen on Dickerson Harbor on the Eastern shore of the Chesapeake Bay. My boat lives there in the winter. 8’ draft so I have to wait for a very high tide to get in and out. Nice competent people and you can work on your boat yourself. Lovely anchorages around there, too. AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840+401 965 5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/On Jan 2, 2023, at 17:16, Dave S via CnC-List  wrote:Contemplating my next boat and have realized that sailing is best enjoyed in a place that isn’t frozen.  Am looking to purchase a boat - likely in the Caribbean, with the intention of cruising farther afield in 2-3 years.  The border services (taxation)  folks in my beautiful native Canada are most willing to share in the adventure by charging an exorbitant stack o’taxes and duties should said boat arrive for importation in Canada to enjoy a 4 month sailing season or two.   As a Canadian citizen I cannot not import it, not easily anyway. So - we go away and we stay away, and we refit in the USA.Can anyone recommend a yard in the south east that is reasonable and decent to deal with?  I have been told that if Florida then north of Jupiter.  Anyone have any other thoughts or experience on the subject?Many thanks all.  Dave 33-2Sent from my iPhonePlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:https://www.paypal.me/stumurrayThanks for your help.StuPlease show your appreciation for this list and the Photo Album site and help me pay the associated bills.  Make a contribution at:
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Stus-List Re: Insurance - again

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Kind of a side note to this.  An owner of the company he works for bought a completely renovated Hinkley 60 in Florida.  He left Florida in it to bring it back to New England and it sank 100 miles off shore.   Insurance said he shouldn't have been more that 40 miles of shore and they aren't covering the loss.   I saw the listing for the boat and the coat guard coverage of the rescue.  The boat listed fur just under $1,000,000!They are fighting it.   As was already stated, read the policy (and replace your standing rigging!).DannyOn Jan 3, 2023 10:32 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  wrote:Happy New Year!I've been looking for insurance to cover our boat in the Caribbean and Med.READ THE POLICY BEFORE YOU BUY!I got what I thought was a good quote through a British broker until I read that the value of the mast decreased by 5% per year - i.e. a 20 year old mast was not insured.  JoelRule One Hylas 49Former owner The Office C 35/3  
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Stus-List Re: Anode Question

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Thanks Brian! Thats good to know! I'm planning on running it to the prop shaft 
Danny

-- Original Message --
From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
To: "'Stus-List'" 
Cc: nausetbe...@optonline.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: Anode Question
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2022 11:50:03 -0500


I had the fish shaped zinc and found the wire corrodes and breaks 
off right above the zinc. 
 
For the past 10+ years have been getting shaft zincs from Boatzincs.com which 
are milspec.   They are more expensive than other sources for zincs, but after 
getting some pink fire of de-zincification on an old prop 
switched to Boat Zincs.  They also seem to last longer than the cheaper ones 
from Defender [from China] or WM.
 
https://www.boatzincs.com/hanging_anode_zinc.htmlAlso more expensive, but 
considerably less than a new prop 
 
Just make certain whatever you clip a hanging zinc to is well grounded to the 
boat. 
 
Brian
 
From: Ken Heaton via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2022 10:07 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Ken Heaton 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Anode Question
 
Defender (and others) sell those pre-made.
 
https://www.defender.com/search.html?q=Zin040A
 
Ken H.
 
On Fri, 25 Nov 2022 at 09:45, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:
Hi Guys,
 
So, I'm leaving the boat in the water this winter (thanks to all who responded 
to that earlier question), and I need to replace the anode or, add one somehow. 
 I was thinking maybe I could attach a wire somewhere and dangle the an anode 
over the side, attached to the wire.  I think it might be too cold for a diver 
at this point.
 
Or, if anyone knows of a diver that could do the job in Portsmouth RI, that 
would be great too.  I did call one that the yard gave me but, he didn't return 
the call.
 
Thanks In advance for any suggestions.
 
Danny
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Stus-List Anode Question

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Guys, So, I'm leaving the boat in the water this winter (thanks to all who 
responded to that earlier question), and I need to replace the anode or, add 
one somehow.  I was thinking maybe I could attach a wire somewhere and dangle 
the an anode over the side, attached to the wire.  I think it might be too cold 
for a diver at this point. Or, if anyone knows of a diver that could do the job 
in Portsmouth RI, that would be great too.  I did call one that the yard gave 
me but, he didn't return the call. Thanks In advance for any suggestions. DannyDon't forget to show your appreciation and help pay the bills.  Make a 
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Stus-List Re: 33-2 companionway hatch and turtle

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

The companionway on my Tartan is similar in the way the hatch slides into a 
hood.  But mine is made of fiberglass.  What I did add was an acrylic tape for 
the hatch to slide on.  I'ts working great and holding up well after 2 seasons. 
I got it on Amazon and it was a recommendation from Tim Jacket over at Tartan.  
It appears to be out of stock on Amazon, unfortunately.  But this is what I 
used.  Maybe you could find some elsewhere. 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N4EQ52P/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
 Danny

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To: C Stus List 
Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List 33-2 companionway hatch and turtle
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2022 13:03:02 -0400


Good day all.I must be looking for things to do because I'm pondering how I 
might improve the companionway hatch.  The acrylic is crazed and requires 
replacement, and I've also noticed some of the turtle (fiberglass 
cover/housing) screws had loosened.   I've disassembled it, and documented it 
on the blog, follow the link below.There's a bit of dirt under there but 
everything appears to be in good shape.
I've detected no issues however I do wonder if it ought to have drainage holes 
other than into the cockpit.
It appears to have had some sealant (butyl?) installed between the turtle and 
coachroof, however it was certainly not sealed.  Perhaps it should not be 
sealed to the cabin top at all?
Though there is no indication of water ingress, I will drill out, epoxy-fill, 
and redrill the mounting holes.
The teak rails and stop block appear to be in excellent shape.
The exposed teak is in good shape however it is subject to weathering and is 
not easy to remove for maintenance.   
 Has anyone else gone down this rabbit hole, and if so what improvements are 
worth making? Thanks, Dave33-2 
Windstarhttp://cncwindstar.blogspot.com/2022/10/companionway-hatch.html   

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I've been wintering with Safe harbor for about 5 years.  They never mention the 
benefits to me until I asked this past season... I'm waiting to hear back from 
the yard that stored for 3 winters and one summer (during covid, no launch)

-- Original Message --
From: JP Mail via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: JP Mail 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:25:15 -0400

Maybe a minor thread steal here but.. 
We keep Hideaway in a Safe Harbor in Stamford. We winter with safe harbor as 
well. Benefit-12 free nights at other Safe Harbors if you winter with them.
Sometimes a shuttle bus, pool and a restaurant are a good thing. 
Jon

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Andy, when are you going?  maybe I'll shadow you down!

-- Original Message --
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2022 15:17:50 -0400


Well, I take my boat to Oxford, MD, a nice three day cruise away. Labor rates 
are cheaper and a friend owns a yard nearby. Andy

Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA02840 
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/+401 965-5260
On Sep 20, 2022, at 13:27, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:

Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...

-- Original Message --
From: DJ via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: DJ 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400

 
That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
wrote:
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more than 
50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care what you 
did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with 
caution, I guess.
 
 Neil Gallagher
 Weatherly, 35-1
 Glen Cove, NY
 
On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:No. I don't know 
anything about any of these yards except that they aren't owned by Safe 
Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient 
for winter work!  Close to the house! I was also considering somerset marina on 
the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
wrote:
Danny, Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine 
up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
Safe Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hello all, Was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay 
is an option too.  The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be 
a little clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and 
I've done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that 
I'd like to protect.  I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping 
it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast 
up solution if possible.  Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!  DannyRum 
Runner IVT40Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Holey cow!  All these yards are full and a few are taking names for a waiting 
list!  I might just be in a Pickle here...

-- Original Message --
From: DJ via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: DJ 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA
Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2022 08:08:57 -0400


That's good info Neil,  thanks! 
On Sep 17, 2022 12:05 PM, Neil Gallagher via CnC-List  
wrote:
My info might be a bit old but when I bought my boat it had been in Somerset 
Marina for 3 yrs on the hard.  It was marginal for a 35' sailboat, could only 
launch at high tide, had to bring in an outside crane to hoist a mast more than 
50'.  On the other hand it was a good place for DIY, they didn't care what you 
did on the boat.  The yard crew was good, the owner bit of a crank.  Use with 
caution, I guess.
 
 Neil Gallagher
 Weatherly, 35-1
 Glen Cove, NY
 
On 9/17/2022 11:53 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List wrote:No. I don't know 
anything about any of these yards except that they aren't owned by Safe 
Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:49 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient 
for winter work!  Close to the house! I was also considering somerset marina on 
the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? 
On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  
wrote:
Danny, Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine 
up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by 
Safe Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton
 26 Beacon Hill
 Newport, RI
 USA 02840
 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
 phone  +401 965 5260
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hello all, Was wondering if anyone had any 
suggestions for winter storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay. Narragansett bay 
is an option too.  The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be 
a little clumsy. They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and 
I've done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that 
I'd like to protect.  I've also just completely rehabbed the mast. So, dropping 
it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now. So, I'd like to find a mast 
up solution if possible.  Thanks for any insights anyone can offer!  DannyRum 
Runner IVT40Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Thanks Andy!   Taunton river sounds convenient for winter work!  Close to the house!I was also considering somerset marina on the Taunton River.  Any thoughts on that facility? On Sep 17, 2022 11:14 AM, Andrew Burton via CnC-List  wrote:Danny, Check out Stanley's in Bristol and Shaws, O'connell's and Bristol Marine up the Taunton River. I think everything else in Narragansett Bay is owned by Safe Harbor.AndyAndrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RIUSA 02840http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/phone  +401 965 5260On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 10:36 AM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Hello all, Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay.  Narragansett bay is an option too. The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy.  They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like to protect. I've also just completely rehabbed the mast.  So, dropping it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now.   So, I'd like to find a mast up solution if possible. Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! DannyRum Runner IVT40Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Winter storage options near Buzzards Bay, MA

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hello all, Was wondering if anyone had any suggestions for winter storage somewhere around Buzzards Bay.  Narragansett bay is an option too. The yard I was using needs to drop the mast and they can be a little clumsy.  They've damaged my boat several times in their handling and I've done a massive amount of cosmetic work over the last couple of years that I'd like to protect. I've also just completely rehabbed the mast.  So, dropping it seems like a waste of effort and cost right now.   So, I'd like to find a mast up solution if possible. Thanks for any insights anyone can offer! DannyRum Runner IVT40Mattapoisett MA

Stus-List Re: It's a jungle down here

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

geeze!  when you described "weeds"  I never expected that!  Jurassic world for 
sure!

-- Original Message --
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
To: CnClist 
Cc: "Dennis C." 
Subject: Stus-List It's a jungle down here
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2022 20:15:27 -0500


Touche's slip is on Bayou Castine on the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain.  
Fairly tropical most of the year. Monday I went for a nice sail on the lake.  
Well, nice if you don't count the biting flies and love bugs.  If you don't 
know about love bugs, Google them.  They're disgusting creatures whose only 
natural enemies are Kenworths and Peterbilts.  They occur in spring and late 
summer. Just out of my slip I saw a 5-7 foot alligator then another about 8-9 
feet.   The bayou has developed a prolific growth of water weeds.  As I came to 
a tight spot in the bayou, the weeds forced Touche' and a Catalina 34 to pass 
close aboard in a narrow section of the bayou. When I returned to the slip, the 
weather was deteriorating and I wanted to get Touche' tied up before the storm 
hit.  Oh, crap!  A large island of weeds had drifted across the entrance to 
Touche's slip.  I tried to back up to it, grab it with a boat hook and move it 
out of the way.  No luck.  The storm was approaching fast so I just powered 
into the slip bow first pushing the weeds in with me.  The island of weeds 
wrapped around the bow and keel.  I normally back in.  The dock lines worked 
and Touche' was safely tied up when the storm hit.  It was raining hard and I 
was reluctant to get wet to retrieve the shore power cord to fire up the air 
conditioning.  All that was missing was for The Rock to show up in his Jungle 
Cruise costume. During the storm, I sweated and pondered how to clear the 
weeds.  Fortunately, the storm killed any wind.  I backed out of the slip, 
motored around to the far side of my pier, tied Touche's stern to the pier and 
used the propwash to blow the weeds out of the slip and into the bayou.  I 
could then pull back around the pier and back into the slip normally.   The 
harbormaster said he'd contacted Wildlife and Fisheries to come spray the 
weeds.  Estimated 2-3 weeks.  What joy! Here's pictures:  
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qIsKMu82fMUa_zSF_QhDqLjBycwYQCx2?usp=sharing
 The one titled "Weeds blown out" shows using the propwash to clear the slip.-- 
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA

Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Have a look at firefly batteries.   If you have the room these would be a great alternative to lithium. On Jul 25, 2022 2:12 PM, "Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List"  wrote:

My battery charger does have a lithium setting, so that part is covered.
What I don’t have is the DC-DC charger I’ll need to charge lithium from the engine bank.
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina
 

From: Chris Riedinger via CnC-List 

Sent: Monday, July 25, 2022 12:48 PM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Chris Riedinger 
Subject: Stus-List Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: No recent mail - now alternator belt

 

Why not just get a solar panel and some AGM batteries? Lithium requires new charger, AGM profile for charging is often available on legacy chargers. 

 


On Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 6:28 AM Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:




To add to my fun it was about sunset and my batteries are about shot. I had 16 miles to go and didn’t want run on battery power, so digging through my spare belts it turns out they
 were all too short ☹ I had to swap alternators back to the one that uses the shorter belts, so a 10 minute job became quite a bit longer.
I think I need to quit researching lithium batteries for the 25th time and just pick one!
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina

Stus-List Re: No recent mail

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

There's definitely been chatter over the last month.  Have you checked spam/junk folder? Of course, there's no reason to believe you'll receive this either, so...DannyOn Jul 24, 2022 9:57 AM, Stu via CnC-List  wrote:I guess everyone is enjoying the sailing season and not having problems 
with their boats and not doing any upgrades.

Stu

On 7/24/2022 8:39 AM, jason shoemake via CnC-List wrote:
> Morning Stu,
>
> I haven’t received any mail in about a month.
> Is there a problem or just not much going on? What should I do?
>
> Thank you,
> Jason Shoemake
>
> Sent from my iPhone

Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

WOW!  Congrats Andy!!

-- Original Message --
From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Andrew Burton 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Andrew Burton
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 12:45:30 -0300


Thanks, Joel! I learned all I know sailing my Dads C 27. 
Andy

Andrew Burton26 Beacon HillNewport, RI USA 02840 +401 965 
5260https://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/  
On Jun 22, 2022, at 12:40, Joel Aronson via CnC-List  
wrote:

Congrats to former C Andy Burton for taking 1st in class and second in 
division in the Newport Bermuda race on his Baltic 47, Masquerade!  It was 
hardly champagne sailing against a formidable fleet! -- 
Joel 

Stus-List Re: Varnish

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I've switched to awlwood.  It does not have the same yellowing tendency as varnish and it looks really great!   You can hot coat it after the primer is cured.  It is very expensive, however. DannyOn Jun 18, 2022 2:09 PM, Matthew via CnC-List  wrote:Listers: I know this topic has been covered before, so please forgive my ignorance.  Although I don’t ordinarily varnish my interior teak ply, I plan to do so around the companionway to protect against water.  I’ll likely use a satin finish.  What type/brand of varnish would you recommend? Thanks in advance. Matt

Stus-List Re: Defender Sale

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I went there a few years ago.  I was looking to replace my 6 Hatches.  I was 
able to get a bigger discount directly from Lewmar because of the large order.  
So, going there could be beneficial from a negotiation standpoint.  It is 
always mobbed though.  I'm not sure if current events will have any impact on 
how they handle consumer traffic within the building.  I did enjoy myself 
whenever I've gone there.  It's kind of like a boat show without the boats 
(well, there is always the inflatables!)

-- Original Message --
From: nausetbeach--- via CnC-List 
To: "'Stus-List'" 
Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net, nausetbe...@optonline.net
Subject: Stus-List Re: Defender Sale
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 12:03:53 -0400


Thanks John.  Any sense on the level of discount, or is it by item? 
 
In past events it seemed a 10% off most everything, in store and online, other 
than the special sale items they had in different areas.  Bottom paint is the 
biggest ticket item on my list.
 
Thanks,
Brian
 
From: John McCrea via CnC-List  
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2022 11:44 AM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net
Subject: Stus-List Defender Sale
 
All,
 
For the local sale they do seem to have some decent discounts that should carry 
over the online sale next week.
 
My suggestion is, if you have an online account, put things in your basket now 
or at least know what the $$ is for your items before the sale and then see how 
much the pricing changes when the sale starts on the 27th. Good luck!
 
John McCrea
Talisman
1979 36-1
Mystic, CT

Stus-List Re: Seasons' Greetings

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Merry Christmas and happy new year to you and Gladys Stu!

.. And to all on the list who celebrate the Christmas Holiday!

Here's to a Healthy and Happy 2022!!

Danny
On 12/23/2021 8:43 AM, Stu via CnC-List wrote:

Gladys and I wish everyone a --


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Stus-List Re: Garboard

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

OH...why didn't I think of this?

On 11/22/2021 9:55 AM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List wrote:
I had one installed on The Office. It probably wasn't necessary, in 
Annapolis,
If you install one, screw in a short pipe nipple so the water does 
not run down the keel.


On Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 9:26 AM Tom Sancton via CnC-List 
 wrote:



Looking at putting a garboard on my 35 mark 3. Has anyone done
this? Looking at leaving my mast up but concerned about water
entering the boat through the mast.

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Stus-List Re: bottom wash

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I was just about to ask that very question.  If cleaning in the water would be 
as good or better than power washing. My bottom paint is laid up in 3 coats.  
two coats of blue and the final coat in black.  This allows me to simply touch 
up the bottom rather than building up the coats as many do.  Well, a couple of 
years ago, I got an over zealous power wash guy that took the entire 3rd coat 
off.  He must have like seeing it turn blue or something... So I was wondering 
if I might just get it cleaned by a diver before haul out

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To: Stus-List 
Cc: "Dennis C." 
Subject: Stus-List Re: bottom wash
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2021 16:14:39 -0500


The only time I have ever skipped pressure washing upon haul out was this last 
time.  I only skipped it because the diver had just cleaned it and it was an 
unscheduled haul out to repair hurricane damage.  Was getting bottom paint and 
my painter said it would be good enough without the power wash.-- 
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Stus-List HowToMarine's Rod Collins AKA Mainesail

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Listers, I just heard Rod Collins, aka Maine Sail, aka Compass Marine, aka 
HowToMarine, had a hemorrhagic stroke last week. He has survived the stroke, is 
out of ICU and headed to Rehab.  Apparently he is already on the mend and 
joking around with nurses but, he's got quite a battle in his recovery ahead. 
Rodd has been an inspiration to many of us and has provided untold hours of 
support to the boating community through his website www.MarineHowTo.com and on 
the Musings with Maine Sail forum on Sailboatowners.com. Rodd has also worked 
with ABYC and Practical Sailor on issues relating to marine electrical systems. 
Personally, Rodd has been a guru. I am a frequent visitor to his site as well 
as a customer. The bulk of what I have learned about marine electrical systems 
has come from Rodd. I hope that his recovery is quick and that he is able to 
return to what he loved, helping others enjoy their boats and learn about 
marine systems.  When I have a new project to accomplish on my boats, 
MarineHowTo is always one of my first research tools.  He seems to have covered 
at least something on just about everything we could come upon in our boat 
maintenance and upgrades. Phil Herring has posted more information on 
SailboatOwners.com. Heres a link to his post: 
https://forums.sailboatowners.com/threads/maine-sail-update.1249931174/ 
Ill be sending a contribution to his recovery and hope others might be 
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Stus-List HowToMarine's Rod Collins AKA Mainesail

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Listers, I just heard Rod Collins, aka Maine Sail, aka Compass Marine, aka 
HowToMarine, had a hemorrhagic stroke last week. He has survived the stroke, is 
out of ICU and headed to Rehab.  Apparently he is already on the mend and 
joking around with nurses but, he's got quite a battle in his recovery ahead. 
Rodd has been an inspiration to many of us and has provided untold hours of 
support to the boating community through his website www.MarineHowTo.com and on 
the Musings with Maine Sail forum on Sailboatowners.com. Rodd has also worked 
with ABYC and Practical Sailor on issues relating to marine electrical systems. 
Personally, Rodd has been a guru. I am a frequent visitor to his site as well 
as a customer. The bulk of what I have learned about marine electrical systems 
has come from Rodd. I hope that his recovery is quick and that he is able to 
return to what he loved, helping others enjoy their boats and learn about 
marine systems.  When I have a new project to accomplish on my boats, 
MarineHowTo is always one of my first research tools.  He seems to have covered 
at least something on just about everything we could come upon in our boat 
maintenance and upgrades. Phil Herring has posted more information on 
SailboatOwners.com. Heres a link to his post: 
https://forums.sailboatowners.com/threads/maine-sail-update.1249931174/ 
Ill be sending a contribution to his recovery and hope others might be 
able to follow suit. Danny  Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Solar question

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi all, So, I took the solar panels and the Bimini in for the hurricane that 
was coming least week. And I had to keep them off for the week because I 
couldn't get back to the boat, and the batteries went down to 11.4 I guess 
running the bilge pump all week. I put the panels back up and I'm getting the 
voltage out of them but the victron is not charging the batteries.  Would this 
be an indication that the batteries charge has gotten too low and that the 
Charger won't start the charge?Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Stu via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/29/21  12:19 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: C Email List 
 Cc: Stu  Subject: Stus-List Don't 
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Stus-List Re: Steering cable

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Dennis,I bet that was more than a weekend project!  Really nice work!Danny

Please note: message attached

From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: "Dennis C." 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Steering cable
Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 18:39:10 -0500

Dave,

It's a DIY job for many.  Just depends on your level of confidence.  It's
fairly straightforward.  The broken strand(s) may be at a sharp turn.

Here's the link to Touche's complete steering system rebuild and upgrade.
You might find some wisdom and/or encouragement in there.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/115qLR3c13N2THCRpsOF-7UGGJBweFXfd/view?usp=sharing

I found a broken strand.  I also removed the pedestal.  However, I removed
it to paint it.  For your situation, you shouldn't have to remove the
pedestal.

--
Dennis C.
Touche' 35-1 #83
Mandeville, LA

On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:44 PM David Knecht via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> A friend at our yacht club had his steering cable snap the other day.  I
> had been planning a steering system lube and check for a few years and this
> motivated me to move it to the top of my priority list.  While I was lubing
> and checking yesterday, I found one spot with broken wires on the cable.
> 1.  I was hoping to replace it in the Fall/Spring when the boat is out of
> the water.  Should I be more worried and plan to do it sooner?  There is
> plenty of intact cable, but I don’t know what causes these breaks and if
> they are an indication of imminent failure.
> 2.  the area under the pedestal is inaccessible without removing the
> pedestal.  Obviously that is a big job, which I have never done.  Is it
> possible to replace the cable without removing the pedestal?  Would I be
> smart to hire someone to do this job (PITA for me, but easier for someone
> experienced)?
> Thanks- Dave
>
> S/V Aries
> 1990 C 34+
> New London, CT
>
>
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Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Edd, I can't believe Daryl Hall is selling your boat!  I guess with all the 
cancelled concerts he needed to make a little side cake!  Has he "lost that 
lovin' feeling?"  I bets it's good to have a "maneater" on the job!  Somebody 
stop me! Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: cenel...@aol.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 02:53:11 + (UTC)


Hey Edd--I love the boat you are selling--unfortunately when I bought my 36 
XL/kcb a new 37/40 kcb was out of my financial reach!! Mine is a slightly 
smaller version of the 37/40 and has a very similar centerboard arrangement. 
Since I do mostly club racing in the relatively thin NC sounds/rivers, I would 
never consider glassing in the board(maybe if I stopped racing) although I know 
of others with C who have done this for the reasons you mention. I also 
agree that since both boats have a massive cb trunk (mine is about 4700 lbs), 
it sails pretty well with the board (~925 lbs) up or even glassed in. OTOH, 
when I put my board down from 4.5 ft to 7.25 ft, she straightens right up and 
sails to weather at least 5 degrees closer to the wind--and if I and the crew 
are on our game, we are very seldom beaten to the weather mark in most breezes 
above 8 knots by any boat in our size/PHRF handicap range. Downwind, kite or 
not, we grind the board up (not easy or quick) and with decent  spinnaker work 
or just flying a genoa with a whisker pole, again we are seldom passed 
(although we don't gain much either!). As you know, the cb trunk is both 
massive in length, weight and width so it adds significant wetted surface 
compared to a skinny (and deep) fin keel. I agree that there is some 
drag/turbulence from the cb slot but both our boards have an elliptical shape 
so that no matter how far the board is extended, it fully 'fills' the slot--as 
opposed to many cb boats with more or less rectangular boards that do not fill 
the slot with the board as the cb is dropped. Since I haul her yearly for new 
bottom paint, and have the cb pennant replaced at ~5 year intervals, my added 
expense with the board is minimal. However, the yard must always do the board 
painting while it is hanging in travel lift--they have an aversion to having 
the board fully down, and the boat very high on jack stands! And most yards do 
not like to dig a hole so that the board can be extended either! Good luck with 
your next boat!   Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C 36 XL/kcb  
 
 
-Original Message-
 From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Edd Schillay 
 Sent: Wed, Jul 14, 2021 4:07 pm
 Subject: Stus-List Re: C 37/40+ For Sale -- Massive Price Drop
 
Joel, We sealed the board in and glassed the bottom, so shes the 
worlds only shoal-draft model.  4.9 feet of draft and we saw no change 
in performance. In fact, without the slot and drag, the boat actually sailed 
faster in anything under 10 knots of breeze and the same up to the 15-knot 
range. And, no headache of thousands of dollars of maintenance every several 
years (board maintenance requires a haul-out and time in the travel lift.) See: 
https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-3b_NHX1Rm0g/WZtCEYGgAUI/AAABmVY/iTwxeuxOcC0c6h5lOQN3Yyr-fbDcGD_rwCLcBGAs/s1600/centerboard.jpg
  If you really want to restore the board, any competent yard could do it. But, 
seriously, she sails better with it sealed in. All the best, Edd  Edd M. 
SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice 
Yacht Club | Venice Island, FLOn Jul 14, 2021, at 3:55 PM, Joel Delamirande 
via CnC-List  wrote:What kind of keel do u have nowAnd 
why take off the swings keelOn Wed, Jul 14, 2021 at 3:43 PM Tom Buscaglia via 
CnC-List  wrote:Edd Stop it, you're killing the market! 
Tom B ¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤¤º°`°º¤,¸¸,¤º°`°º¤. Tom & Lynn Buscaglia SV Alera C 
37+/40 Vashon Island WA(206) 463-9200 www.sv-alera.comAt 11:47 AM 
7/14/2021, you wrote: Listers, With my sights set on the next Enterprise and 
new adventures on the final frontier, I have dropped the price of my 1990 C 
37/40+.  Lots of great features, including new air conditioning, a Doyle Stack 
Pack, autopilot, Raymarine e95 chartplotter and a 2015 Beta 30 engine with just 
under 500 hours.  If you know anyone looking to get into a great boat 
thatâs built for cruising and/or racing, priced now at $59,000, 
please have them contact me.  Here is a link to the listing:  
https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1990/c-c-37-40--3829704/  All the best, Edd  
Edd M. Schillay Captain of the Starship Enterprise C 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-B Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL  Thanks to all of the 
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Stus-List Re: Old Harken Roller II

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

OK so, Steve Mallet  was the first to respond and he's looking for the lower 
stuff. I'm in Rehoboth Massachusetts. I'm sure the foils can be shipped.  Just 
need a longer box and its all about cost from there. The thing is still 
completely assembled at the boatyard, in a rack, currently in Barrington RI.  
I'll have to try and get over there and start pulling it apart. Although, time 
is always the issue, My boat is now in Mattapoisett Ma in the completely 
opposite direction. I'll see what I can do about getting it apart.  No one 
seems to be in a big hurry, would these just be spares to have on hand? I think 
the first thing to do is get the thing broken down and out of the boatyard.  
I'll keep you all posted on how that goes. Danny
-- Original Message --
From: dukatolla--- via CnC-List 
To: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
Cc: "dukato...@hotmail.com" 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Old Harken Roller II
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2021 16:51:45 + (UTC)


 Hi Danny, I have a Harken II Unit 1 Same as Bruno Spare Connectors and a 
Foil..would be a great thing to have in the parts department. Cheers Johnny 
Wright1970 C Ste Marie, Ontario, Canada On Friday, July 9, 2021, 
11:19:32 a.m. EDT, Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:  
HI Guys, I replaced my old harken roller furler with a new Sheafer. Before I 
toss it, I thought I'd see if anyone needed any parts.  Maybe I should send it 
to one of the used boat parts places.  At least maybe it could go to use rather 
than being trashed... I replaced the old harken traveler too.  So, I still have 
that laying around. DannyThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to 
the list to help with the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to 
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Stus-List Old Harken Roller II

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

HI Guys, I replaced my old harken roller furler with a new Sheafer. Before I 
toss it, I thought I'd see if anyone needed any parts.  Maybe I should send it 
to one of the used boat parts places.  At least maybe it could go to use rather 
than being trashed... I replaced the old harken traveler too.  So, I still have 
that laying around. DannyThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Navigation app for iPad with ios 9

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Ok, so, it is a Apple iPad 2 MC755LL/A Tablet (16GB, Wifi + Verizon 3G, White) 
2nd Generation.

Sent from my iPad

> On Jul 5, 2021, at 10:27 PM, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
>  wrote:
> 
> OpenCPN does not run in i things. 
> 
> Congrats on the launch!
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 5, 2021 at 10:07 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
>>  wrote:
>> Hi guys!  Thanks for the replies! 
>> 
>> I have not tried openCPN.  where do I find that?
>> 
>> I'm not sure of the exact model but out has the 3g capability.  It's 11 
>> inches and probably 7 years old - ish. 
>> 
>> I'm in the boat now and left it at home so I can't check.   I will look 
>> further into when I get back. 
>> 
>> Taking my boat back to home port, in mattapoisett, after nearly 2 years on 
>> the hard in Barrington, RI
>> 
>> She looks stunning! 
>> 
>> Danny
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
>> To: Stus-List 
>> Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
>> Subject: Stus-List Re: Navigation app for iPad with ios 9
>> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 14:13:38 -0700
>> 
>> Which iPad?
>> 
>> Tom BuscagliaS/V Alera 1990 C 37+/40Vashon WAP 206.463.9200C 305.409.3660
>> 
>> On Jul 5, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Danny via CnC-List  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi guys,  i wanted to rt and use an old iPad for backup navigating but all 
>> the apps are not compatible with the current IOS. 
>> Does anyone know of an app i could use on this iPad?  I don't think 
>> upgrading the operating system is possible
>> Danny
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
>> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
>> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
>> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - 
>> Stu
> -- 
> Joel 
> 
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Stus-List Re: Navigation app for iPad with ios 9

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi guys!  Thanks for the replies! 

I have not tried openCPN.  where do I find that?

I'm not sure of the exact model but out has the 3g capability.  It's 11 inches 
and probably 7 years old - ish. 

I'm in the boat now and left it at home so I can't check.   I will look further 
into when I get back. 

Taking my boat back to home port, in mattapoisett, after nearly 2 years on the 
hard in Barrington, RI

She looks stunning! 

Danny
-- Original Message --
From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Navigation app for iPad with ios 9
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 14:13:38 -0700

Which iPad?

Tom BuscagliaS/V Alera 1990 C 37+/40Vashon WAP 206.463.9200C 305.409.3660

On Jul 5, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Danny via CnC-List  wrote:

Hi guys,  i wanted to rt and use an old iPad for backup navigating but all the 
apps are not compatible with the current IOS. 
Does anyone know of an app i could use on this iPad?  I don't think upgrading 
the operating system is possible
Danny


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Stus-List Re: Navigation app for iPad with ios 9

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi guys!  Thanks for the replies! 

I have not tried openCPN.  where do I find that?

I'm not sure of the exact model but out has the 3g capability.  It's 11 inches 
and probably 7 years old - ish. 

I'm in the boat now and left it at home so I can't check.   I will look further 
into when I get back. 

Taking my boat back to home port, in mattapoisett, after nearly 2 years on the 
hard in Barrington, RI

She looks stunning! 

Danny
-- Original Message --
From: Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Tom Buscaglia 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Navigation app for iPad with ios 9
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2021 14:13:38 -0700

Which iPad?

Tom BuscagliaS/V Alera 1990 C 37+/40Vashon WAP 206.463.9200C 305.409.3660

On Jul 5, 2021, at 8:14 AM, Danny via CnC-List  wrote:

Hi guys,  i wanted to rt and use an old iPad for backup navigating but all the 
apps are not compatible with the current IOS. 
Does anyone know of an app i could use on this iPad?  I don't think upgrading 
the operating system is possible
Danny


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costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
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Stus-List Re: moisture meter

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Compass marine has a whole article on this with a meter recommendation 
https://marinehowto.com/understanding-the-moisture-meter/

-- Original Message --
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Bill Coleman 
Subject: Stus-List Re: moisture meter
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2021 22:31:29 -0400


The Skipper II ?

Bill 
On Thu, Jun 17, 2021, 9:53 PM Gord via CnC-List  
wrote:Does anyone have any recommendation for a moisture meter for 
fiberglass/C boats
 
Gord
Firefly
1994 C 34+
 
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Stus-List Re: Question??

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I know! that's ridiculous!  If this is true, why would anyone want a Yanmar 
engine?  He should have contacted Tartan directly.  I've had so much help from 
them over the last 5 years owning my Tartan 40 and it's 36 years old.  I can't 
imagine that they would not have had a reasonable solution for him.  Maybe a 
connection to a local Mech that would have taken on the repair?  They've 
actually helped a situation when the local yard was doing their best chicken 
little impression saying "this is NEVER going to work, it will jeopardize your 
safety..."  Tartan stepped in and cooled all heads. They wrote a letter on 
company letterhead to confirm that not only was the condition safe but they had 
numerous boat out on the water with the exact same setup and were still using 
the same setup on new boats! Sometimes, I think, locally, all the guys in the 
trade know each other and they all speak to one another and they all back each 
other up.  I've been on the receiving end of that situation too.  You have to 
go outside your local environment for a true 2nd opinion.  I'm lucky enough to 
have a company still in business and more than willing to keep their older 
boats up of to snuff!  I would imagine with such a new model, they'd have been 
more than willing to help out.  The last thing they want is that type of story 
getting out that their putting in engines that can't be repaired... Or, maybe 
your friend just didn't want to wait for a repair and the engine swap was 
faster?  I bet he could still reach out to tartan and get that thing fixed 
right up.  Worst case scenario, he could ship it to them and have it repaired 
by them.  Imagine having a spare engine laying around for a swap out if another 
repair is needed (if they are identical).  I know a guy with a Viking 33 that 
has a completely rebuilt and pristine atomic 4 in his garage for that very 
purpose!  He says he can swap out the engine and dial it in within a day. Danny

-- Original Message --
From: "Dennis C. via CnC-List" 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: "Dennis C." 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Question??
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2021 20:53:15 -0500


There are 68 Kanzaki transmissions listed on eBay right now.  Perhaps one will 
work.  There are also sites that sell used and rebuilt trannies.  I find it 
hard to believe he needs a new tranny AND engine.   -- 
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
On Mon, Jun 14, 2021 at 6:32 PM Robert Abbott via CnC-List 
 wrote:A club member has a 2012 Tartan 37 with a 3 
cylinder Yanmar diesel I 
 don't know the transmission typehe bought it in 2014 got a good 
 deal then on pricethe engine now has 200 hours but just after he 
 launched 6 weeks ago, his transmission failedmarine diesel 
 contractors (3 of them) said transmission could not be repaired.so 
 he needs a new transmission.
 
 Wrong, he is informed by all 3 diesel mechanics and Yanmar, that there 
 is not a transmission available to match his Yanmar engine. So guess 
 what, he has to buy a new engine and transmission.
 
 Has anyone ever heard of this where there is no transmission to fit a 
 Yanmar?
 
 Rob Abbott
 AZURA
 C 32 -#277
 Halifax, N.S.
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Stus-List Re: UFO NOISE

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Doug,More!  She could (and will) ask for more!Oh it never ends!  LOLDanny

-- Original Message --
From: Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List 
To: Dave S 
Cc: Stus-List , Doug Mountjoy 
Subject: Stus-List Re: UFO NOISE
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 20:01:31 -0700


Lol. Well I didn't give her flowers ... but I did give her a brand new hand 
made holding tank and new hoses. What more could a girl ask for!!!Sent from 
my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Doug MountjoyPort Orchard YCPort Orchard,  WARebecca 
Leah1988 LF39    Original message From: Dave S 
Date: 5/18/21 6:50 PM (GMT-08:00)To: Doug Mountjoy 
Cc: Stus-List Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Re: UFO NOISE Lol- well, if enough time has passed an apology and 
flowers might be a start. 
Dave   (Evening spent proactively doting on my 33-2)
 
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On May 18, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Doug Mountjoy  wrote:

That is a possibility but nothing changed from last fall. Except for the fact I 
was not home to dote on Rebecca Leah.Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device 
Doug MountjoyPort Orchard YCPort Orchard,  WARebecca Leah1988 LF39    
Original message From: Dave S via CnC-List Date: 
5/18/21 6:13 PM (GMT-08:00)To: Stus-List Cc: Dave S 
Subject: Stus-List Re: UFO NOISE If you cover any holes you 
can reach does the pitch change?   Dave 
 

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On May 18, 2021, at 9:07 PM, Dan Grant via CnC-List  
wrote:

Vortex shedding?Dan Ipswich , Ma Puffin Cv # 148  

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On May 18, 2021, at 8:18 PM, Doug Mountjoy via CnC-List  
wrote:

For the past couple of months I have had a harmonic noise that sounds like a 
UFO. It appears to be coming from the mast, but only with a wind blowing, light 
or otherwise.Being moored across the bay from Puget Sound Naval Shipyard first 
few  times I heard it, had me looking outside for UFOs. I don't think its wind 
in the rigging. It just started this year when I got back from my 5 month road 
trip to Florida.  Is Rebecca Leah punishing me for being gone so long?  Sent 
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Stus-List Re: Free anchor kellet and location float

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I may be interested Dave

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To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Cc: David Risch 
Subject: Stus-List Free anchor kellet and location float
Date: Wed, 12 May 2021 11:07:04 +


Any takers?   Maybe a bit costly to ship because of the weight (10 lbs).   Pics 
if interested. 
 
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Stus-List Re: 35mk2 3.5" masthead sheaves

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I just got new sheaves from this guy. 
https://www.zephyrwerks.com/masthead-sheaves Great service very fast lead time. 
 Not cheap but, what can you do...  I think I paid $45/sheave Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Shawn Wright via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Shawn Wright 
Subject: Stus-List Re: 35mk2 3.5" masthead sheaves
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2021 17:27:14 -0700


That's a great deal, but mine are 3.5" x 7/16" wide. A guy at our club has 
found me some in nylon that should work. Not as good as Delrin, but they should 
do. Acetal/Delrin material is crazy expensive around here... was going to be 
$90 just for material to make some.--Shawn wrightshawngwri...@gmail.coms/V 
Callisto, 1974 C 35https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto 
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 2:23 PM Bill Coleman via CnC-List 
 wrote:I have a bunch of 4 X 5/8 in Black 
UV Delrin, $8 each without bearings.
 
 
Bill Coleman
Entrada, Erie, PA
 
 
 
From: Shawn Wright via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
 Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2021 4:12 PM
 To: Stus-List
 Cc: Shawn Wright
 Subject: Stus-List 35mk2 3.5" masthead sheaves
 
Has anyone found a source for replacement masthead sheaves? 3.5" OD, 3" pulley 
diameter, 5/8" width, 1/2" bore. Originals are aluminum with a bronze bushing, 
but Delrin or similar would also work. 
 
 
--
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shawngwri...@gmail.com
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Stus-List Re: Even More Atomic 4 Troubles

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Lee, To my ear, the 2nd video is a normal sounding A4.  They sound like a 
sewing machines.  The first time I heard mine run, I had the same reaction. The 
first video, sounds like a normal A4 but there seem to be some kind of movement 
of some kind.  My first thought was that it was in gear and the prop was 
spinning maybe. However, as someone mentioned, that could have been a loose or 
aging engine mount.  I didn't notice any engine movement though. The coils on 
the A4 can be a bit delicate and crack when they over heat.  That could also be 
the source of difficult starting.  Especially, if it started easier cold and 
got more difficult when it was warmed up.  I kept a spare coil, spare carb and 
spare fuel pump on board because these were always causing me trouble.  Well, 
not the fuel pump really but, I figured it was good insurance.  I would try to 
swap out the coil if I had an overheat. As has been mentioned, these are very 
durable engines and don't die easily. Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Lee Goss via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Lee Goss 
Subject: Stus-List Even More Atomic 4 Troubles
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2021 14:03:58 -0500


Ahoy! When our C MK.1 was taken out of the water last season the engine was 
left running... until it eventually just stopped. We've just tried starting it 
for the first time using a bucket of water, and whilst we did get it running; 
it doesn't sound like it use to! Could anyone familiar with Atomic 4's please 
listen to these videos and let me know your thoughts? Link to videos: 
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/19oxLLMBcHKWucEAp5QbH19TYT_PR7eEn?usp=sharing
  Many thanks in advance for any help. Lee C 29 MK.1 Lake Michigan Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4 trouble shootings

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

3 things you need for an internal combustion engine to run. 
SparkCompressionFuel. Check for spark at the plugsUsually , when I had trouble 
with my atomic 4, on my previous boat, it was usually the carburetor.  I had 3 
and kept 1 rebuilt on board, 1 at home either awaiting rebuild or rebuilt, and 
would swap them out.  The ethanol fuel would screw the carb up constantly...I 
also had a nagging problem with the wiring harnessAnother issue was making sure 
the timing was good but, it would usually fire even if it was off a little.  Do 
you have the mechanical fuel pump or the electric?  Has it been converted to 
electronic ignition?  Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: dwight veinot via CnC-List 
 Date: 4/11/21  7:05 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: dwight veinot  Subject: 
Stus-List Re: Atomic 4 trouble shootings Check the points and make sure the gap 
is set rightOn Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 3:36 PM Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
 wrote:Good afternoon gentlemen Does anyone have done a 
overhaul on the atomic 4  I’m trying to start this engine and getting 
frustrated of getting no results I’ve been following the Moyer marine video and 
still no luck Here what I did New spark plug and rotor New dc wiringNew starter 
There spark at the coilI tried many times to do the dead center alignment 
assuming the engine was rebuilt according to universal specs New dip stickI’m I 
missing something I’ve tried gaz in the spark plug hole Results oil and gaz 
shoots out at the flame aresstor Give me a call or text 905 818-1336-- Joel 
Delamirande
www.jdroofing.ca
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Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Edd, That was me, Danny, that mentioned the interest down there Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Edd Schillay 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 11:36:43 -0400


Jeff,
 Buy now  prices are going up, up, up!  Happy to hear. Though still 
relatively new here, I do have a pretty good lay of the land and 
will be happy to answer any questions (off list, of course)  and always 
happy to help out a fellow Cer.  And Im not planning to go 
anywhere list-wise. All the best, Edd  Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship 
EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
On Mar 31, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote:It's a community list of C enthusiasts that 
sometime have side conversations.  I hope Edd stays a part of the community 
even after he moves to a different type of vessel.   Edd, I may be moving to 
your area, in a few years, if all goes well!  -- Original Message 
--From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" To: 
Stus-List Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboatsDate: Wed, 31 
Mar 2021 14:08:26 + Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman1981 
C HarmonyLudington, MI  From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Edd Schillay  Subject: Stus-List 
Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. Weve looked at quite a few boats 
over the past few months and there were several that we didnt like, 
whether its the style, layout, number of levels, engines, etc. Im 
not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels purely from a maintenance 
and safety level.  Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan with Caterpillar 3126s 
has really caught my eye. Also interested in the Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal 
Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have yet to actually get on board 
one  may be too small.) Primarily, we are looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser 
that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast island or for a week or two 
cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas.  Im well aware that, 
especially as a life-long C owner, that there will be compromises and 
disappointments, but Im looking to transition into a less-active form of 
boating where the only winch on board is electric and it drops the anchor.  Now 
that we are here in Florida for good, we cant wait to explore strange 
new worlds, seek out new life and new civilizations. And, our Prime 
Directive will not change  Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly  I just 
want to be at a speed that I wont need to take extra time off.  All the 
best, Edd  Edd M. SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: 
NCC-1701-BVenice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL  On Mar 31, 2021, at 
9:23 AM, Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:I would 
agree with that. The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet 
expectations if you had a C for very long. I worked on all of them and 
delivered some back in the day and unless they got a LOT better than they used 
to be, I can't see a C being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by 
"diesel". Sailors tend to extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel 
powerboats and neither one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high 
output diesels have short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair 
of big block V8s. I worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some 
autopilot calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also 
the layout and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. 
Heck - even the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any 
sailboat without going much faster.  Joe Coquina  -Original Message- 
From: Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]  Sent: Monday, 
March 29, 2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List  Cc: Dennis C. 
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?  Look at the 
Sabre Salons.Dennis C.  On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List  wrote:  Danny,  Possibly, but it would have to 
be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels.   All 
the best,   Edd  
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Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

It's a community list of C enthusiasts that sometime have side conversations. 
 I hope Edd stays a part of the community even after he moves to a different 
type of vessel.   Edd, I may be moving to your area, in a few years, if all 
goes well!  

-- Original Message --
From: "Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List" 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: "Jeffrey A. Laman" 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 14:08:26 +


Thought this was a C sailboat list? Jeff Laman1981 C HarmonyLudington, MI 
 From: Edd Schillay via CnC-List 
 Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2021 10:04 AM
 To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Edd Schillay 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Now best powerboats Joe, Thanks. Weve looked at 
quite a few boats over the past few months and there were several that we 
didnt like, whether its the style, layout, number of levels, 
engines, etc. Im not ruling out gas engines, but would prefer diesels 
purely from a maintenance and safety level.  Right now, a Sea Ray 400 Sedan 
with Caterpillar 3126s has really caught my eye. Also interested in the 
Carver 36 Mariner, the Regal Commodore 4080 and the Meridian 341 (though I have 
yet to actually get on board one  may be too small.) Primarily, we are 
looking for a 16-knot+ cruiser that we could use for a day trip to a gulf-coast 
island or for a week or two cruising to the Keys or even the Bahamas.  
Im well aware that, especially as a life-long C owner, that there will 
be compromises and disappointments, but Im looking to transition into a 
less-active form of boating where the only winch on board is electric and it 
drops the anchor.  Now that we are here in Florida for good, we cant 
wait to explore strange new worlds, seek out new life and new 
civilizations. And, our Prime Directive will not change  
Wherever We Go, We Go Boldly  I just want to be at a speed that I 
wont need to take extra time off.  All the best, Edd  Edd M. 
SchillayCaptain of the Starship EnterpriseC 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-BVenice 
Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL  On Mar 31, 2021, at 9:23 AM, Della 
Barba, Joe via CnC-List  wrote:I would agree with that. 
The Carver/Regal/Sea Ray lineup probably would not meet expectations if you had 
a C for very long. I worked on all of them and delivered some back in the day 
and unless they got a LOT better than they used to be, I can't see a C 
being happy with them. Also do not be fooled by "diesel". Sailors tend to 
extrapolate "lasts forever" and "sips fuel" to diesel powerboats and neither 
one of those things necessarily apply. Many boosted high output diesels have 
short lifespans and "economical" is in comparison to a pair of big block V8s. I 
worked on a SeaRay 55 and I had to run her hard to do some autopilot 
calibrations. I think I was going through 100 gallons an hour! Also the layout 
and décor seemed ideal for bachelor parties - cruising not so much. Heck - even 
the slow Grand Banks trawlers use a LOT of fuel compared to any sailboat 
without going much faster.  Joe Coquina  -Original Message- From: 
Dennis C. via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com]  Sent: Monday, March 29, 
2021 10:39 PM To: Stus-List  Cc: Dennis C. 
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: 40 or 41?  Look at the 
Sabre Salons.Dennis C.  On Mar 29, 2021, at 8:05 PM, Edd Schillay via 
CnC-List  wrote:  Danny,  Possibly, but it would have to 
be a fast trawler. Most likely looking for a sedan bridge with diesels.   All 
the best,   Edd  
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Stus-List Re: water tanks interconnected, or not?

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Peter, Something is preventing the free flow of water from one of the tanks. 
 It could be; - a clog in the hose from the tank to the tee, - maybe a valve, 
somewhere in that line that is closed, - it could be the vent is plugged solid, 
creating a vacuum.  Which does not allow the water to flow. Given that there is 
very little head pressure to overcome the vacuum, it wouldn't necessarily take 
too much of a plug on either side to stop the water flow. Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Rick Brass via CnC-List 
To: "'Stus-List'" 
Cc: Rick Brass 
Subject: Stus-List Re: water tanks interconnected, or not?
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2021 23:37:40 -0400


My 38 also has a tank under the port and starboard settees. Each of the tanks 
has a shutoff valve at the outlet. The two drain hoses meet at a T under the 
floorboards, and from this T is the line to the pressure pump.
 
Curiously, there is also a shutoff valve on each side of the T. I could see no 
good purpose for the second shutoff in each supply line (unless it was there to 
stop all the water from leaking out through a broken line), so I left them in 
place when I replaced the hoses a while back.
 
Maybe you have an arrangement like this one?
 
Rick Brass
Washington, NC
 
 
 
From: Adam Hayden via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 7:14 AM
To: Stus-List 
Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com; Adam Hayden 
Subject: Stus-List Re: water tanks interconnected, or not?
 
Peter
Very interesting.  I have the same issue except my port tank drains and the 
Starboard tank does not.
Drives me crazy.  
Adam c 36
Sent from my Bell Samsung device over Canadas largest network.
 
From: Peter McMinn via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2021 3:55:08 AM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
Cc: petemcm...@gmail.com 
Subject: Stus-List water tanks interconnected, or not?
 
I have a 30gal water tank under both settees. The valves for each are set to 
open flow. However, the pump seems to draw only from the starboard side. 
Id assumed that with both valves open, the tanks would equalize, but the 
stbd tank empties and the pump goes dry, while the port tank remains full. Can 
someone venture to whats going on? Ive read this 2015 discussion, 
but the OP then was interested in disconnecting the two tanks. Ill do 
some exploring tomorrow to see what might be preventing the tanks from 
equalizing. Ideas are welcome.
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Stus-List Mast Base Blocks

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hello Again, So, I'm considering replacing all the blocks for the mast base.  I 
currently have 3 for halyards, 1 for mainsheet, 1 for boom furling line and 1 
for center board. I'm was considering Schafer stainless because they look great 
but, I'm now thinking, some kind of plastics would be better for when they fall 
against the new paint. I'm wondering if anyone has any recommendations about 
brands, quality vs cost, etc...   All my existing blocks are pretty old and I'm 
sure, aren't as friction free as they should be.  I've kept the old deck 
organizers and I'm planning on replacing the sheaves.  I've got the new mast 
sheaves on the way.  I ordered them From Zephyrworks. I may have them do the 
deck organizer Sheaves too.  He said he could rebuild any block too.  I think 
I'm going to have him rebuild the 1 Schaefer exit block I needs to be replaced. 
 Thanks again,DannyThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [n ow mast rebuild]

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I had already done all of my standing rigging and having the same done to my 
mast this year!  It looks amazing!  I had to replace my lower spreaders though 
as, one of them had a crack.  36 year old aluminum, I figured it was best to 
replace rather than repair.  I may do the upper spreaders next year. I Already 
went with hella spreader lights, they have a red or white light option, and the 
Lunasea tricolor/strobe/anchor for top of the mast.  The final light, 
masthead/deck, Its looking like I'll go with the Marine beam! Thanks Josh! Danny

-- Original Message --
From: Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
To: Undisclosed-recipients:;
Cc: Stus-List , Josh Muckley 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement [now 
mast rebuild]
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2021 10:45:46 -0400


The yard used awlgrip 2000, pearl gray if I recall correctly.  Stripped all 
hardware and wiring, welded shut vestigial holes, ground them flat and then 
primed and painted.  Re-wired, refitted, replaced all rod rigging. Here is the 
link to the whole 
project.https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=1eSqX7wZP1r77hD84wDmGAQSI0Tqbn9xm
 I pretty sure the next question is going to be "how much?" ~1k for each rod 
and hardware.  I have 4 shrouds on each side plus head and back.  10 total  ~3k 
for the paint job alone All said and done it came to roughly 20k Josh Muckley 
S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD 
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 10:19 David Swensen  
wrote:Josh, Lets talk about your mast and spreaders. What did you use to paint 
them? They look great.
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021 at 9:54 AM Josh Muckley via CnC-List 
 wrote:I replaced my Aqua Signal with the marine beam.  
Perfect replacement fit.  No problem.  Highly recommend.  I also did Aqua 
Signal LEDs on the spreaders.  Very low profile and they work phenomenally - 
almost too bright! 
https://store.marinebeam.com/led-masthead-foredeck-combination-light/ 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CdFzOH89I3fwlZeumTcWlLxQGST9Mn_S/view?usp=drivesdk
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gIzwa9aDe-08QwoXbRkiSKvJpeaHpOkU/view?usp=drivesdk
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ZQiyoFpaXQ5qMJ82CfCZY1GUoUKmx-MM/view?usp=drivesdk
 
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1C9XMVAymHLr3240v5wFePlXiVGKJG6VS/view?usp=drivesdk
  All the best,  Josh Muckley S/V Sea Hawk 1989 C 37+Solomons, MD  
On Thu, Mar 18, 2021, 08:55 Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:Hello all, I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The 
existing Aqua Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off 
at some point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua 
Signal. I've been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all 
the way up to well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at 
about $125 and the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450. I don't want 
to spend unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   It was good 
reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  Of course the 
reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are plenty of bad 
reviews about the aqua signal.   I was hoping some of you could offer some 
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Stus-List Recommended Masthead/Deck Light combo replacement

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hello all, I need to replace my masthead (steaming)/Deck Light.  The existing 
Aqua Signal light doesn't impress me as the deck light lens fell off at some 
point and the deck light didn't work.  So, Staying away from Aqua Signal. I've 
been looking and these light range in price from around $100 all the way up to 
well over $500.  I've seem Marine Beam, with good reviews, at about $125 and 
the Signal Mate, with good reviews at about $450. I don't want to spend 
unnecessarily but, I'm leaning toward the Signal Mate.   It was good 
reputation, been around a while and is supposed to be well made.  Of course the 
reviews on the Marine beam say they are well made.  There are plenty of bad 
reviews about the aqua signal.   I was hoping some of you could offer some 
experiences and advise. Thanks,DannyThanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
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Stus-List Re: Precision Sails

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I got my headsail From Precision.  I'm very happy with the communication and 
work that they did.  In fact, I brought my sail in for storage and inspection 
to the Quantum Loft near by and he even said it was well built sail.   He 
wanted to trash it but as we opened up on the loft floor he kept point to the 
good work they did and in the end said "it's a nice sail" I would go with them 
again if they gave me a good price.  Although, I got a nice quote from Neil 
Pryde on my main, they're only abut an hour away.  Turned out I didn't need a 
new main.  My existing sail is a Neil Pryde so, I sent it to him to have a look 
and he sent it back repaired saying I would get another 5 to 7 years out of it 
no problem.  His price to replace was nearly half what Quantum wanted for the 
same specifications.  I think part of that was that he still had the pattern 
from when he built the first one so, there was no design time involved.  But 
still, half?  I went back to quantum and he tried to say that the sail would be 
inferior and he'd like to see the quote to compare.  So, I sent him the quote 
and he never responded.  Which is sad seeing I'd given him nearly all my 
business over the years.  with the exception of the Precision sail. Danny

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From: Paul Fountain via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Paul Fountain 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Precision Sails
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 16:03:29 +


Lots of sailmakers in the Toronto area  UK, Doyle, North are the big 
ones, and a number of small ones!
 
And had a Haarstick genoa on our 27 great sail, cut at their Rochester loft. 
Assembles at their Hamilton Ontario affiliate (now Bay Sails)
 
From: Della Barba, Joe via CnC-List  
 Sent: March 16, 2021 9:59 AM
 To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Della Barba, Joe 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: Precision Sails
 
Google-Fu shows three sailmakers in Toronto and three more in Victoria. There 
does appear to still be sailmakers in Canada. If you mean literally making 
sails from scratch, maybe not, but they still would repair sails I would hope.
Joe
Coquina
 
Ps  anyone remember Haarstick sails? I still have some of their sails, 
back in the day we really liked them and the furling genoa they made for us was 
great. That thing was the equivalent of a car with 300,000 miles on it when it 
finally went to the great sail loft in the sky.
 
From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List  
 Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2021 8:01 AM
 To: 'Stus-List' 
 Cc: Bill Coleman 
 Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Re: Precision Sails
 
The local loft is now closed- the last one in Canada I think  Right  Now 
where are you going to get your repairs done?
This is the problem, and why Local businesses matter.  
UKNW in Sidney is still open, nice folks.
 
 
Bill Coleman
Erie, PA
 
 
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Stus-List Re: windlass battery under vee-berth

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Tartan put my whole house bank up there under the V-berth.  # group 27s. I'm 
planning on replacing my batteries this year with firefly batteries!  I have to 
get in see the biggest I can fit

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From: Joe Della Barba via CnC-List 
To: "'Stus-List'" 
Cc: j...@dellabarba.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: windlass battery under vee-berth
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2021 13:11:46 -0400


Dont put a battery up there. That is a lot of weight in the wrong place 
and then you have to deal with charging issues.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/TEMCo-2-Gauge-AWG-Welding-Lead-Car-Battery-Cable-Copper-Wire-MADE-USA-/371701459250?var==item952b8102dd
 
 
Joe Della Barba
Coquina C 35 MK I
Kent Island MD USA
 
 
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Stus-List Re: Deck painting

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

On mine, they took the gelcoat texture right down.  They said it was the only 
way to guarantee good adhesion.   The deck was painted during the POs tenure by 
roll and tip method and they tried to just scotch pad it, prime and finish but, 
you could see where the paint was lifting in the lows of the non skid areas.  
It wasn't bad, you could just see the primer in those areas and they were small 
and uniform.  So, the non skid just appeared to be a different shade of white.  
Eventually, the whole paintjob was failing.  I'd say it lasted 10 to 12 years 
though.  Of course, the downside is that it made the next paintjob (this one) a 
lot more difficult... 

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From: "Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List" 
To: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
Cc: "Ronald B. Frerker" 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Deck painting
Date: Fri, 26 Feb 2021 19:39:51 + (UTC)


 This brings up a question I've been wondering about:  How does one effectively 
sand non-skid portions of the deck?  I can't see how the sandpaper would get 
into the stipled surface.  Or is there an alternative to sandpaper that I'm not 
aware of?I can scrub with soapy water and power wash, but it seems like sanding 
would only knock the tops off the non-skid.  What gives the "bite" for the 
paint to hold in the depressed parts?RonWild CheriC 30-1STL  On Friday, 
February 26, 2021, 04:37:50 AM CST, Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote: I just had my decks painted this year.  They 
painted each part separately.   Stripped and sanded everything down.  Then 
masked off the non skid areas to prime and finish the smooth areas before 
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Stus-List Re: Deck painting

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Bob, I just had my decks painted this year.  They painted each part 
separately.   Stripped and sanded everything down.  Then masked off the non 
skid areas to prime and finish the smooth areas before masking off the newly 
finished areas and addressing the non skid. I think they felt adhesion would be 
better for each area to have a good base to prime and then the finish to go 
right on the primer.  I'm  sure cost was part of it too.  Why pay for a 
finished coat you'd just have to sand, again, and paint over anyway?  Good 
paint ain't cheap and the extra labor to sand a nice new fished paint job is 
not very efficient. Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Bob Mann via CnC-List 
 Date: 2/25/21  8:05 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stus-List 
 Cc: Bob Mann  Subject: Stus-List 
Re: Deck painting 
  
   I understand about putting on non-skid, but isn't the complete deck painted 
first using the non-skid paint, prior to taping off and painting as non-skid? 
Or is the deck painted completely with one paint, taped off and non-skid 
painted using a different paint?
   
  
    
   
  
   Bob
   
   
   
On 02/25/2021 7:57 PM Peter McMinn via CnC-List  
wrote:

   
 

   
 

   
Charlie,

   
Same question for me (37). The previous owner did wonderful prep and 
taping, but coverage is thin. I’ll probably put on another coat of Kiwi.

   
 
 
 
  On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 4:10 PM cenelson via CnC-List <
  cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
  
  
  
   My deck is mostly covered with non-skid Kiwi-Grip which I had a applied 
by a local yard at least 5 years ago—likely more like 8-10–and it still is in 
great shape. 
   
 

   
OTOH, the non-non skid needs some serious work! However there is so 
little of it, it’s almost like ‘trim’ and taping it off would be time and money 
consuming if done by a yard.

   
 

   
I am considering having it done by someone without taping all the 
non-skid off and using a high quality paint, single or 2 part paint and a brush.

   
 

   
Is this likely to work for a decent 10 ft look or is it likely to be a 
disaster?

   
 

   
Any recommendations on 1 or 2 part paints, manufacturers, etc.

   
 

   
Charlie Nelson

   
Water Phantom

   
1995 C 36 XL/kcb

   
 

   



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Stus-List Re: Atomic 4

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Chances are you will not need a new motor.  This is a very simple motor and you 
could rebuild the thing with basic tools.  There are also lots of parts 
available for this engine. Moyer has a forum you could join and ask all your 
questions there.  My last boat had an A4 and I was on that group.  There are 
threads where people chronicled their rebuild in their basement! I would 
definitely start in the the moyer forums.  I have a bunch of parts laying 
around that I might be able to help you out with.  I actually have a brand new, 
never installed, electronic ignition kit.  I bought it to upgrade my engine 
but, ended up buying a moyer rebuilt that came with that already installed. 
Danny

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From: Joel Delamirande via CnC-List 
To: Stus-List 
Cc: Joel Delamirande 
Subject: Stus-List Atomic 4
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2021 13:49:03 -0500

Good afternoon sailors 
My refit of sailboat is almost doneBefore spring I want to get my atomic 4 
fired up and ready to go, presently the motor is my garage I would like some 
guidance and help where to Go other  than Moyer marine if there another place, 
I love them and appreciate there honesty But need customer service or call back 
I need help with how to get it started, maintainAnd other things I dont 
know about this motor Hopefully I dont have to put a new motor You may 
call or text me at +19058181336 Have a great day --
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Stus-List Re: Maintenance that makes the boat work easier

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Great post Chuck!  It's taken me a while to learn the benefits of all this.   I 
have a seasoned sailor friend that I like to bring sailing on my boat.   He and 
his wife have been at it fever.  I'll let them run the boat and then learn 
lessons by embarrassment!   Whatever they complain about, I know I need to 
address.   Lol!Having come to sailing much later in life, you just don't know 
what you don't know...I think I'm finally  getting close on that list! 
DannyThanks, Danny
 Original message From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
 Date: 1/27/21  12:42 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: "CNC boat 
owners, cnc-list"  Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER 
 Subject: Stus-List Maintenance that makes the boat 
work easier 
  
   I'd like to share something most of you know but some may not and it's 
something I learned the hard way.  Before hoisting sails for the first time 
this season, check that all your blocks and deck organizer sheaves turn 
properly and the sail tracks are clean.   Use a finger to check that the sheave 
turns freely in each block.  Things work easier if everything actually works, 
and if you do this the sails will thank you.
   
  
    
   
  
   Earlier I reported that I raise the mainsail on my 36 ft saiboat by hand.  
Well I couldn't do that when I first got my boat and needed to use a winch on 
halyards.  My sailing friends told me that was normal and winches were always 
necessary to hoist such large  sails.  My mainsail weighs only 55 to 60 pounds, 
so I thought they might be wrong.  Later, I spent some time checking all of the 
mast base halyard blocks and freeing a few frozen sheaves in the deck 
organizer, I found I could raise the mainsail by hand very easily.  These 
sheaves are deceptive when frozen and allow a halyard to pass unimpeded 
initially when there is no load, but once the strain comes on, if they are 
frozen, the halyard becomes bar taught and the job requires a winch.  I also 
learned from reading the winch catalog that the largest loads; the genoa and 
main halyards work best if reeved along the most direct path to the right side 
of a winch drum.  So now I pick the clutch directly in line with the right side 
of the Starboard winch drum for my main halyard.  All my winch drums turn 
clockwise.  My genoa halyard is reeved through the clutch directly in line with 
the right side of the Port winch drum.   I run the spinnaker halyards through 
the outermost clutches and all the other lines have lower loads so can be run 
as you like.  And I label the clutches.
   
  
    
   
  
   I also hoist the Genoa by hand onto the furler and because I clean the foil 
grooves and spray the sail tabbing with MackLube, it goes up pretty easily.  
The lube also allows easy adjustment of the halyard tension when shaping the 
sail while sailing.  I usually pick a lightwind day and extend the genoa 
halyard so I can wrap the tail round the winch drum and lead it to the bow 
where I feed the sail into the groove as I pull the halyard.  I can clear any 
snags as they develop and the sail goes up happy and quick.
   
  
    
   
  
   So clean and lube your winches and the clutches too.
   
  
   Mark your halyards so you can repeat proper settings.
   
  
   These things make operating the boat so much easier.
   
  
    
   
  
   Sorry for the long rant.
   
  
    
   
  
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R, Pasadena Md
   
  
    
   
  
    
   
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Stus-List Re: New sails?????

[Danny Haughey]

John,yes, I have.  I would recommend them.  When I googled the address, in Sri 
Lanka, where the sail came from it showed up as Quantum.The measuring is pretty 
strait forward and they spent a long time on the phone making sure everything 
made sense and compared to photos and talked about design aspects.I got my new 
135 Furling Genoa from them.  I got all the bels and whistles and it still came 
out about 25% cheaper than a lesser spec'd, local sail.  The local lofts have 
complimented the quality when I bring it in for inspection and storage.Danny

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From: John Christopher 
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2020 06:20:04 -0500


Has anyone used Precision Sails out of Vancouver?


C Landfall 38, Hull #155/John
On Dec 16, 2020, at 5:58 AM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List  
wrote:

I have new Quantum sails made in their Sri Lanka factory and workmanship is 
excellentI highly recommend them! Bob

Bob Boyers/v Rainy DaysC Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)(Spending winters in the 
Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the ICW in between)blog: 
dainyrays.blogspot.comemail: dainyr...@icloud.com
On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:26 PM, Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:

Question to the group.  I am getting a new set of cruising sails for our 40.   
My choice is going to be between Doyle or Quantum. I have had Doyle sail before 
and their service and quality were great. Made in St.Pete Fl. right up the 
road. 100 miles. Quantum sails with almost identical specs comes in about 400 
bucks lower but are made in Sri  Lanka. Service is relatively close on on the 
east coast of Fl. Given between the two, what might you buy. Has anybody had 
experience with the SriLanka sails. It's my understanding that several lofts 
and a lot of sails come from there.  Thanks TedS/V Ten-TenPunta Gorda, Fl. 
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Stus-List Re: New sail for 34

[Danny Haughey]

John and MaryAnn, You've got Neil Pryde Sails In CT.  I think Stratford.  Great 
loft!  Bob actually talked me out of buying a new sail and re-stitched mine. 
Said "you're good for another 8 or 9 years with this sail.  They also priced a 
new sail with identical specs to Quantum at about 60% of the cost. This might 
have been because he still had the design file from the 1st sail though. I had 
bought most of my sails from Thurston.  I told him about NP price and at first 
he went on about the quality.  So, I told him it might be because they still 
had the design all done and said, "Let me send you the quote."  He said, that 
would be good to know to compare the 2.  I never heard from him again... I met 
Bob, at a boat show.  He spent time chatting with us there about our sail.  He 
remembered my boat from the PO's work and said.  I can't believe that sail 
needs replacing.  He was right.  Its 3 years later and the sail is still 
great!! I'd give them a call! Danny 

-- Original Message --
From: "John and Maryann Read" 
To: "'Stus-List'" 
Subject: Stus-List New sail for 34
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 19:20:43 -0500


In the market for a new or new to me rolling furler genoa  prefer a 110 
or 115. 
 
Nearest sail lofts are in Newport about an hour drive.  North, Quantum, Doyle, 
Jasper & Bailey,  and others.  Also Bacon has a new dacron made by Precision 
with foam luff and UV covers that will fit
 
Any experiences that can be shared?
 
 
John and Maryann
Legacy III
1982 C 34
Noank, CT
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Stus-List Re: New sails?????

[Danny Haughey]

Chuck, Don't forget about Harding Sails in Marion, MADanny

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From: 
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Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 17:38:34 -0500


+1 on the Doyle choice.  Our Doyle loft in Dartmouth, MA just went under after 
over 40 years in the biz which is leaving a big hole in the local sailing 
community.  Yes weve got both North and Quantum if you want to go to 
Bristol or Portsmouth, RI, but there was nothing better than dropping off a 
spinnaker that you managed to rip on Wednesday night beer can race and 
theyd have it for you to pick up on Saturday morning before the weekend 
regatta. 
Keep it local if you can and although were sailors and cheap by nature 
(the wind is free and everything else should be too, right?) the local loft 
cant stay in business if they are being asked to price match an Asian 
made product offered by a big conglomerate company.  Just my .02
Chuck Gilchrest
S/V Half Magic
Padanaram, MA
 
 
From: Edd Schillay  
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2020 5:11 PM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: New sails?
 
Ted,
 
I would go with Doyle. Nothing beats having a local sailmaker to come out and 
measure and adjust after the sails are on  you may need to have a 
spreader patch moved, add tell tales, whatever. Local is best. 

All the best,
 
Edd
 
 
Edd M. Schillay
Captain of the Starship Enterprise
C 37+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
Venice Yacht Club | Venice Island, FL
 






 



 
On Dec 15, 2020, at 4:25 PM, Ted_Relinda--- via CnC-List 
 wrote:
 
Question to the group. 
 
I am getting a new set of cruising sails for our 40.   My choice is going to be 
between Doyle or Quantum. I have had Doyle sail before and their service and 
quality were great. Made in St.Pete Fl. right up the road. 100 miles. 
Quantum sails with almost identical specs comes in about 400 bucks lower but 
are made in Sri  Lanka. Service is relatively close on on the east coast of Fl. 
Given between the two, what might you buy. 
Has anybody had experience with the SriLanka sails. It's my understanding that 
several lofts and a lot of sails come from there. 
 
Thanks
 
Ted
S/V Ten-Ten
Punta Gorda, Fl. 
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Stus-List Re: Sails

[Danny Haughey]

David, I'm curious as to what you said to elicit such a response.  Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: David Risch  
Date: 11/20/20  6:10 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stus-List  
Subject: Stus-List Re: Sails 

Just an FYI…
 
Grew up on LIS.  Foredeck (cow) monkey at 12 (big for my age) on a 35 MK1 and 
thence on a 38 Mk 1.  We had Butch Ulmer aboard many times (who I managed to 
piss off…”son…I have squeezed more water out of my socks than you have been 
over”.  
 Epic)
 
Cost not an issue?  Given the prevalence of C & C s in LIS, go with UK.  Their 
sail making database for C & Cs are,  IMHO, in the States, second to none.  

 
But they are expensive.  Great.  But expensive.
 


From: Ron Casciato  
Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 4:22 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Sails


 
All great questionssomeone in NE PHRF once calculated that for every 100 
lbs  you have on the foredeck, you lose 3 seconds per mile.  And he was the C 
29 winner
 of all time for years…….now long gone, but I never forgot the calculation.  

 
Ron
 


From: nausetbe...@optonline.net 

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 3:15 PM
To: 'Stus-List' 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Sails


 
Blast from the past…  When did that start – early / mid 2000’s? 

 
Anybody have an update on Wally?  Is Stella Blue still in Mexico?  Last I 
recall was a “soap box derby” type of race somewhere in Baja on whatever people 
could create out of locally sourced flotsam…  

 
His website was a fabulous source of how to write ups / photos of various boat 
projects. 

 
Brian
 

From: Dennis C. 

Sent: Friday, November 20, 2020 10:35 AM
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Sails

 


He was looking for the "foredeck cow".  (Long time C email listers will 
understand.)


 


  -- 


Dennis C.

Touche' 35-1 #83


Mandeville, LA




 


On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 9:24 AM Don Kern  wrote:



 Have received photos of the boat racing with suggestions on what I was doing 
wrong (worded as how to improve).  The most notable was a photo with the 
caption: "what is this guy doing standing on the bow?"!
Don Kern
Fireball, C Mk2





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Stus-List Re: SmartPlug sale

[Danny Haughey]

So, I just looked at the sale and compared the price of the stainless 
receptacle by just googling the part number.  Boat ID has the same part for 20% 
less than Fisheries sale price of $102, BoatID has it at $83.  I've used BoatID 
previously and have good experiences but, I am not affiliated with them at all. 
 Just an FYI

-- Original Message --
From: Graham Collins 
To: Stus-List 
Subject: Stus-List Re: SmartPlug sale
Date: Mon, 2 Nov 2020 21:15:36 -0400


Totally agree - it is a great upgrade.  I installed one 8 years ago, and 
reviewed it for Good Old Boat magazine.  Easy to install, and I'm totally happy 
with it 8 years later.  I like that the plug has a double positive lock into 
the socket - the side tabs engage first, and then when you lower the outlet 
cover back down it locks it again.  Nice fat blades on the connections.
Graham CollinsSecret PlansC 35-III #11On 2020-11-02 1:15 p.m., ALAN BERGEN 
wrote:Fisheries Supply in Seattle is having a sale on SmartPlugs until November 
8. If your shoreside power connectors show any sign of burning, or corrosion, 
or if you were planning on replacing your shoreside power cord or connectors, 
now would be a good time to consider the SmartPlug. I replaced mine a couple of 
years ago when I noticed arcing at the AC inlet on my boat. You can learn more 
about SmartPlugs here: 
https://www.fisheriessupply.com/smartplug?utm_source=Fisheries+Supply+Mailing+List_campaign=89845df10e-SPL-SmartPlugSale-20201102_medium=email_term=0_32a7fd0d23-89845df10e-86981669
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Stus-List Re: Painting topside(less non-skid)

[Danny Haughey]

The Viking 33 we used to own had the top sides rolled and tipped before I 
bought it.  It would pass a 5 ft test.  While we owned the boat I had the yard 
paint the boot stripes and they came out beautiful rolled and tipped!  Again, 
wouod pass the 5 ft test. David Rische rolled and tipped his boot stripes a 
couple of seasons ago and they came out great too!   That was a bright white 
against a dark blue hull. The deck on our current boat was rolled and tipped 
with a 2 part paint about 8 years before i bought it and it passed a 2 ft test! 
 Looked really great.  In fact a very seasoned sailor came aboard with his wife 
and the wife commented how good the decks looked.   The husband said, "it's a 
tartan they're just that great, they stay looking good."  I then had to tell 
him that they were painted.   However, that paint job is now failing.   It 
started to lift and peel off after about 12 or 13 years.   I've had the whole 
thing stripped, prepped and sprayed with awlgrip 2000.  This was because the 
decks took some abrasion damage due to a neighboring boat breaking of its 
mooring during a storm,  hitting my boat, hooking my anchor with its bow rail 
and paying out 100 ft of chain across the deck.  I'm in an insurance battle...  
do not use geico marine insurance. I think it's really about the prep and 
getting your technique down.   If you have the time and the patience, it can be 
beautiful right up close. Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List 
 Date: 10/8/20  10:14 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Stus-List Painting 
topside(less non-skid) My 25 year old topside/deck is looking pretty tired—some 
fiberglass is showing through in places.The Kiwi non-skid applied about 6 years 
ago is fine and is easily touched up.I am thinking of doing the non-non-skid 
with a brush and tip method (?) using a 1 part paint, taping the non-skid off. 
My question for the list:Is this a reasonable way to proceed and/or should I 
consider a 2 part paint or gel coat and/or a more costly spray paint job.In 
either case, would a brush/tip job likely pass the 10 ft test?  Charlie 
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Stus-List Re: Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s

[Danny Haughey]

I had a smile like that on my Viking 33.  I had the yard patch it up, when they 
blasted all the old paint off, and it never reappeared during my ownership of 5 
years.  The repair was not at all expensive as I recall.   You'd still do well 
with a good survey if you really wanted to buy the boat. Are there any signs of 
a grounding/?  Were you able to check the bilge?  This is a pretty common 
occurrence I believe.

-- Original Message --
From: 
To: "'Stus-List'" 
Subject: Stus-List Potential "Next" Boat - Keel Issue ?'s
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 2020 16:47:35 -0400


I looked at a boat yesterday that seemed like a good contender for a 
next boat, right up until just prior to leaving I looked more 
closely at the keel and found something that does not look particularly good.  
I am hoping for some sage advice from the list, as in a) walk away, or b) might 
be repaired, and if so what would be entailed and is it worth it.  This would 
have to be on the current owners tab, or a very hefty discount in the 
price. 
 
I tried to attach low res pics but that exceeded the list max message size, so 
here is a link I hope works:
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNHJ22k8kS3ukfBzXz67enViRMDw3GAOASwiS49uupKViTIDFeNzLj1LE_pav81Yw?key=QkR1X0FXWlgyclBzY1JYcUtIckRJRGh3dzIyMURR
 
The keel has a fairly significant crack extending at least 18 aft from 
the leading edge.  [The bottom was recently painted and I did not try to follow 
it further aft.]  That gap [in the attached photos] is at least 3/8 on 
the horizontal axis and about  on the vertical.  The trailing 
edge has some cracks which are not overly visible, again due to the bottom 
paint.  Unfortunately I did not look closely at / around the keel bolts, nor do 
I have any internal photos, as I noticed this after the boat was closed up.  
The boat is 4  hours away so getting more photos is not feasible.  
 
To my untrained eye it appears there was a hard grounding and the keel almost 
seems to have shifted aft in addition to down, based on the angle of the line 
from the fairing of the hull down to the leading edge of the keel.  But there 
does not appear to be any movement aft at the trailing edge, though possibly it 
was punched up.  This does not appear to be along the sump / keel joint as the 
crack is angled upwards and is not horizontal.  The owner claims there have 
been no hard groundings when asked directly, only a handful of soft groundings, 
predominantly in sand, but I have read even that can do damage.  The boat was 
recently under contract and surveyed and that buyer decided against going 
forward. The reasons given by the broker did not include any mention of 
damage revealed during the survey.  I do not have a copy of that buyers survey. 
 
Any thoughts on what would need to be done to remedy this, or am I better off 
to move on and keep looking?  Should the keel be dropped and the keel bolts 
examined?  Or would there be other, less intrusive / expensive fixes which 
would be sufficient and safe?  I realize it is difficult to really determine 
the best repair without physically examining the boat but any advice on what 
likely would be required is appreciated. 
 
Thanks,
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Stus-List Re: FYI - C win in Nyack

[Danny Haughey]

 That's awesome!  Congratulations! I know a guy that dives the hull every week! 
 He's totally hard core!   Was racing the hobie mono hull for a few years on 
Narragansett bay. Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Matthew Schlanger 
 Date: 9/24/20  5:24 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Stus-List 
 Subject: Stus-List Re: FYI - C win in Nyack 
Joel,Yes. Thanks.We added a new #1 to the arsenal which changed things on the 
race course.I recently trashed the spin you had labeled a .75 and are happy 
using the .5 - which is really also a .75 according to my sail maker.I want to 
find a reasonably priced used, but more modern, symmetrical.There’s one on eBay 
that’s a little small.We should speak off-list. I might still have a manual for 
your EPERB.MatthewOn Sep 24, 2020, at 5:08 PM, Joel Aronson 
 wrote:Matt,congrats!  I take it you are enjoying The 
Office!Joel



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On Thu, Sep 24, 2020 at 4:37 PM Matthew Schlanger  
wrote:The Nyack Boat Club (NY) Wednesday night racing season ended last night 
and for both in the spinnaker and non-spin divisions the winners were a C 35 
mk III, 1983 and 1984 respectively. Second place in spin was a C 36/37. These 
are the only two C 35 mk III's racing, and other than these 3 there weren’t 
any other C competing. No it’s not always like this, for one, for several 
years a stripped down Tripp 37 owned by a very talented sailor ruled the 
spinnaker division. 

Or it could also be that these three boats, plus one other, had their hulls 
cleaned more than any others competing.
Hmm, it’s rumored that Tripp 37 had it’s crew dive on the hull every week...

Matthew Schlanger
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Stus-List Re: Stus-ListList upgrade

[Danny Haughey]

I notice that the emails from Stus-List are now "from"  each individual.  
Previously, they all showed "C List" in the "from" field.I'll have to update 
my filter to get them to go to my CnC folder

-- Original Message --
From: David Risch 
To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" 
Subject: Stus-List Re: Stus-ListList upgrade
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 2020 11:12:35 +


All my emails used to go to my C and C foldernow they are all ending up 
in the Junk Folder
 
From: Stu  
 Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2020 4:58 PM
 To: C Email List 
 Subject: Stus-ListList upgrade
 
I am presently upgrading our list programs to the latest versions.  There 
should not be any disruptions and for the most part, no changes that you will 
notice.
 
Once everything is done, I will send out a note with the important changes.
 
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Stus-List 38' C & C 1980 - Landfall 38 up for auction

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Yacht Salvage has a 1980 LF 38 up for auction. 
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Re: Stus-List Teak Maintanance

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I've personally done the heat gun  method on several boards that were about 24 
inches by 11 inches.  It worked really well in removing only the varnish.  The 
key is to stay focused and not burn the teak and holly.  I would not hesitate 
to do it again that way. Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Neil Andersen via CnC-List 
 Date: 8/10/20  5:37 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Neil Andersen  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List Teak Maintanance 




Amen!!




Neil Andersen
Rock Hall, MD 21661




From: CnC-List  on behalf of Joel Aronson via 
CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 5:36 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Joel Aronson
Subject: Re: Stus-List Teak Maintanance
 



Do not use a power sander. 



On Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 5:31 PM Robert Boyer via CnC-List 
 wrote:


You will probably have to sand it down and refinish it with a good marine 
varnish.


Bob

Bob Boyer
s/v Rainy Days
C Landfall 38 (Hull # 230)
(Spending winters in the Bahamas, summers in Baltimore, and somewhere on the 
ICW in between)
blog: dainyrays.blogspot.com
email: dainyr...@icloud.com


On Aug 10, 2020, at 2:55 PM, General Gao via CnC-List  
wrote:





Hi everyone,


Just wondering about the my interior teak maintenance. The picture below shows 
what it looks like now. I tried to use paper towel, teak cleaner, teak oil, did 
not change a thing. Should I use scrubber or I am not on the right track? The 
yellow color seems
 to be from something that "grow" from the wood.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L3b7cvaYxZN8wRMuZiEZhDCDYk5-Pihn/view?usp=sharing





Thank you,


Bo

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Re: Stus-List Teak Maintanance

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

The yellow is moisture under the finish.  You need to strip the finish, carefully and refinish. 


I have an article somewhere that explains a technique using a heat gun and a 2 inch scraper. 


If you're interested I'll try and dig that up.   


It's not really difficult but it is a time consuming project...


Danny


thanks,

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From: General Gao via CnC-List Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020, 4:41 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: General GaoSubject: Re: Stus-List Teak MaintananceHi Neil,Sorry but you lost me there, what am I supposed to do? Could you elaborate?Thanks,BoOn Mon, Aug 10, 2020 at 4:37 PM Neil Andersen via CnC-List  wrote:








Bo,


The discoloring is from water.  Tone need to CAREFULLY get down through the varnish without messing with the holly sole.





Neil Andersen
Rock Hall, MD 21661




From: CnC-List  on behalf of General Gao via CnC-List 
Sent: Monday, August 10, 2020 2:55 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: General Gao
Subject: Stus-List Teak Maintanance
 


Hi everyone,


Just wondering about the my interior teak maintenance. The picture below shows what it looks like now. I tried to use paper towel, teak cleaner, teak oil, did not change a thing. Should I use scrubber or I am not on the right track? The yellow color seems
 to be from something that "grow" from the wood.


https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L3b7cvaYxZN8wRMuZiEZhDCDYk5-Pihn/view?usp=sharing





Thank you,


Bo





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Re: Stus-List Lifting an outboard

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I'm with David, been leaving the engine on the dink...  I do have a cable on it though and belts and suspenders with 2 painters.  


Although, I do use a small mainsheet setup attached to the Bimini with good success when I do want it on the rail.  The Bimini is braced to the stern rail at that location.  So, it seems plenty strong. 


Danny


thanks,

Danny


From: David Risch via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020, 10:30 PMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: David Risch; Len MitchellSubject: Re: Stus-List Lifting an outboard


This may be blasephy, but unless I am crossing the Gulf of Maine (or similar) I leave my engines on.  Not worth all the rigging BS and my hurting my back.




Never lost a rig, in too many to mention years,  up here in the not always tranquil New England. Mind your weather  and your painter.  And if I do lose it? Thats why I have insurance. 






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To: CNC List 
Cc: Len Mitchell 
Subject: Stus-List Lifting an outboard
 


Rock, in a pinch I have used the main halyard for my 76lb 15hp 2 stoke but it’s a 2 person job then, one on the winch. A 5hp 2 stroke is easy! If you aren’t sure tie a safety rope onto the motor, they sink fast. 

Len Mitchell
Crazy Legs
1989 37+ 
Midland On

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Re: Stus-List Over Heating

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Paul,is the valve a bronze Apollo ball valve?  I'm surprised it moves that 
easily and doesn't leak from the packing...Danny

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From: Paul Hood via CnC-List 
To: 
Cc: Paul Hood 
Subject: Stus-List Over Heating
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 2020 22:40:29 -0400

I just had an overheating issue on my A4.  Last year I had the Moyer inline
water alarm purchased and put it on to find the flow was significantly
reduced.  I didn't like that so I removed it.  This year, put the boat in
water, opened seacock valve for cooling and this weekend after many days out
already and numerous hours on the motor, the valve seemed to close after an
hour of straight motoring.  It appears the valve closed on its own.  Not
sure how long its been slowing closing itself but I'm sure nothing could
have inadvertently closed it, I'm sure of it.  I suspect the last bit of
movement went the fastest once it hit the almost horizontal position.  The
handle is very smooth and easy to close and I suspect the vibration from the
engine dropped the handle to perpendicular position of the valve.  I will be
putting the alarm back on in short order.  I also put a small tie around the
handle to keep it vertical.  Still very odd as this has never happened
before.

Paul Hood
C '81 REFUGE


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Re: Stus-List Fwd: Source for long stainless/brass screws

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Jamestown distributers is a really good source for screws. 


thanks,

Danny


From: Mike Taylor via CnC-List Sent: Saturday, May 23, 2020, 7:09 AMTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: Mike TaylorSubject: Stus-List Fwd:  Source for long stainless/brass screwsDid you try Brafasco on TerryFox.MikeBegin forwarded message:From: David Morris via CnC-List Date: May 22, 2020 at 9:14:51 PM EDTTo: cnc-list@cnc-list.comCc: djmor...@djma-ltd.comSubject: Stus-List Source for long stainless/brass screwsReply-To: cnc-list@cnc-list.comI’m having difficulty finding a supplier of the 6” screws - preferably stainless, but will settle for brass - to re-install the interior and exterior handrails on our C 30 MKI. I’m not sure if they are a no. 10 or 12. Recommendations would be much appreciated, preferably in Canada.  David J. Morris, MBAPresident, D.J.. Morris & Associates Ltd.24 St. Paul’s Place, Kingston, ON  K7M 7S3Tel. 613-531-4429email: djmor...@djma-ltd.comMember: Canadian Freelance GuildBlogging at: http://davidmorrisjourneys.wordpress.com/ 



	
		
			

			
		
		
			
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Re: Stus-List Butyl tape

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

you can get the bed-It butyl here. https://shop.marinehowto.com/products

-- Original Message --
From: Steve Thomas via CnC-List 
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Steve Thomas 
Subject: Re: Stus-List Butyl tape
Date: Fri, 22 May 2020 8:57:06 -0400


 I have not tried the "Bed it" brand recommended by others, but I will when I 
find some. The stuff sold by Westmarine is useable but not the same quality as 
that used on our boats originally. Forget about the Homedepot stuff, tried that 
as well. 

I left a roll of butyl tape in the boat in a cupboard under the side deck and 
the heat from the sun melted it so that it does not release from the paper. 
Makes it a PITA to use when that happens. Store it in a more or less cool 
place. 

Steve Thomas
C MKIII
C  

 cscheaffer via CnC-List  wrote: 
I'm rebedding deck hardware and bought Butyl Tape but I'm not convinced this is 
best for me.  Butyl has a cult following but it was not chosen by C during 
the build except for the hull deck joint.  I like 3M 4200 and 4000uv.  Anybody 
have opinions on Butyl being better?Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy 
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Re: Stus-List Wet deck repair

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

 Hi Charles, Mine was a grossly simplified description of the repair.  I was 
just trying to nudge a recollection.  The repair, as far as I recall, was very 
well done, I may be mistaken about the replacement of the anti skid section and 
they may have just used the area as a boundary.  My memory isn't what it used 
to beThanks, Danny
 Original message From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List 
 Date: 5/18/20  8:26 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List Wet deck repair 
  
   Hi Danny,
  
  
   The deck repair you describe sounds very weak since they omitted some very 
important steps.     Slapping the old deck skin down without doing the proper 
bonding will last for a while, but it does not reproduce the strength of the 
original deck and will very likely open up after some foot traffic flexes the 
deck a little.
  
  
   
  
  
   You need to grind a 12:1 bevel around the joint to bond the skins back 
together.  The bevel gets "over filled" with layers of glass cloth.  That gets 
ground flush and then fairing and sanding and fairing and sanding and fairing 
and sanding and finally the painting steps, with sanding between coats, to 
protect the epoxy from UVs.  As the fiberglass guy told me,  "There are many 
steps and you can't skip a step." 
  
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
   Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C 34R Pasadena Md
  
  
    
  
  
   
  
  
   
  
  
   On May 17, 2020 at 5:36 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 wrote: 

   
   
Thankfully this is not for my boat!  
 

   
   
Dennis, although that Issa helpful, it isn't the project I was thinking of. 
 It was a side deck project and I seem to remember he uncovered a previous core 
repair and it was filled with scrap and covered back up... 
 

   
   
He cut the decks at these non skid edges, did the repair and replaced the 
same non skid sections for an undetectable repair. 
 

   
   
Ring a bell with anyone? 
 

   
   
Thanks, 

   
   
Danny 
 
 

   
   

 thanks, 
 


 Danny


   
   
   
   From: Dennis C. via CnC-List  

   Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020, 5:18 PM 

   To: CnClist 

   Cc: Dennis C. 

   Subject: Re: Stus-List Wet deck repair 
   
   
   
Was it this?

 


 https://drive.google..com/open?id=1hAJ2BrQ05fUCGNY5K9GySS2afCubC-2A 
 


 


 Dennis C.

   
   
   

 On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:24 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List < 
 cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 
 


 
  
   Hi everyone, 
  
  
   One of our listers did a really nice deck repair a while back and shared 
some great photos of the repair.  I can't going that thread just now.  I was 
wondering if anyone had that link that I could share with a tartan owner. 
  
  
   

   thanks, 
   Danny
  
 
  
  
  
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Re: Stus-List Wet deck repair

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Thankfully this is not for my boat!  


Dennis, although that Issa helpful, it isn't the project I was thinking of.  It was a side deck project and I seem to remember he uncovered a previous core repair and it was filled with scrap and covered back up...


He cut the decks at these non skid edges, did the repair and replaced the same non skid sections for an undetectable repair. 


Ring a bell with anyone? 


Thanks, 

Danny


thanks,

Danny


From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020, 5:18 PMTo: CnClistCc: Dennis C.Subject: Re: Stus-List Wet deck repairWas it this?https://drive.google..com/open?id=1hAJ2BrQ05fUCGNY5K9GySS2afCubC-2ADennis C.On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:24 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:Hi everyone, One of our listers did a really nice deck repair a while back and shared some great photos of the repair.  I can't going that thread just now.  I was wondering if anyone had that link that I could share with a tartan owner. thanks,Danny

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Hi everyone, One of our listers did a really nice deck repair a while back and shared some great photos of the repair.  I can't going that thread just now.  I was wondering if anyone had that link that I could share with a tartan owner. thanks,Danny

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You might find it more available from a yard that does a lot of painting.  When I got my boat painted, the shop gave me some for a touch up kit.


thanks,

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Re: Stus-List Mooring pendants

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https://marinehowto.com/mooring-pendants-thoughts-musings/
From: David Knecht via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, April 2, 2020, 3:20 PMTo: CnC discussion list CnCCc: David KnechtSubject: Stus-List Mooring pendantsI am planning to get a new pendant for my mooring float and have been reading up on the topic.  I am surprised by the variety of solutions I am seeing and few are complete.  My plan was to put a nylon pendant and luggage hitch on a NE Ropes cyclone dyneema segment on one arm of the double.  The cyclone is 5’ or 8’ long.  My old pendant is 12’ long.  So I am thinking a  5’ cyclone and 7-8 foot nylon/poly 3/4” for one side.  What I am more unsure of is what to do with the other arm of the pendant.  I like the idea of a double as it gives redundancy in the event of a failure at that part of the chain of connections.  Presumable, I would do that in all nylon/poly.  But should it be the same length or longer so it only comes into play in the event of a primary failure.  Alternatives I see are making it the same length or making it shorter so that the dynema arm is the emergency backup.  I thought the science of this would be all worked out by now but it seems not.  The results of the cyclone/dyneema study in the Boston area seems to be pretty strong that it does not fail due to chafe which was the major source of failures in that area.  So perhaps the second pendant is overkill?  Dave


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Re: Stus-List Cruising guides for Nova Scotia

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David,

would love to know your itinerary for that trip!!  How long were out on 
that cruise?


Danny

On 2/25/2020 7:38 AM, David Paine via CnC-List wrote:

Hi Mike,

Last summer we sailed up to Nova Scotia (from RI) and, when we got 
there, we used the CCA guide.  It seemed adequate for the harbor 
hopping that we did from Shelburne to St Petes, Bras D'or Lakes.    It 
is bare bones though -- mostly narrative and none of the illustrated 
charts that are common in other cruising guides I've seen.   There are 
lots of places along the NS coast to drop the hook but if you need 
fuel and supplies (gas in my case as I still have the original Atomic 
4 in my C) the options are limited between Halifax and St Peters.  
 In fact, even Mahone bay, where I thought for sure there would be 
fuel, only had diesel at the gas dock so we had to ferry fuel in jerry 
cans from gas station using the dinghy -- all part of the fun!  
 Luckily the winds were very cooperative so we didn't really need much 
fuel.


David

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 1:24 AM Ken Heaton via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


This one is getting to be quite out of date now but was good when
we first used it back in 2010: Cruising Guide to the Canadian
Maritimes, 1st Edition, 2007 (Capt. Cheryl Barr)

Cruising Guide to the Canadian Maritimes covers ports and harbours
of southern Newfoundland, Cape Breton, Magdalen Islands,
Saint-Pierre-et-Miquelon and PEI. It has sailing directions for
the Bras d'Or Lakes, Great Bras d'Or, Baddeck Harbour.

https://www.landfallnavigation.com/c-g-canadian-maritimes.html

Ken H.

On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 05:00, Headgorilla via CnC-List
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Ok Gang, asking for a friend who plans on sailing north and
invading your Canadian Coastline this Summer.

What is a good Cruising Guide Source for Nova Scotia etc?
there are a couple on Amazon (one put out by CCA) but he tells
me they are terrible.

Any suggestions? Sadly he has an Albin Trawler (so you might
not want his sorry butt in Canada)

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Re: Stus-List New Sails...

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I googled the address that my precision sail came from and the top result was 
for quantum sails oddly enough...Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: David Risch via CnC-List 
 Date: 1/15/20  5:36 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Risch  Subject: Stus-List 
New Sails... 

Hello,
 
I am sure we have been there and done that, but please indulge me…
 
Going through the process of shopping for new sails.   Not a small budget item 
for a 40.   Know the arguments of local vs. national vs. offshore.   Cruising 
with offshore racing and cruising with occasional beer can.   Main and 125%.  
   Leaning toward high quality Dacron cross-cut as they are easier to repair 
and I do not want to get into the laminates.   Blew a big budget on those years 
ago  

 
Specific questions are regarding cloth choices generally and specifically as C 
& C  have tall skinny mains (especially the 40).  What has been your 
experiences with the differing sail lofts?  I am getting prices with 50% swings 
and that
 is a bit mind-boggling as I am getting information that many sails are built 
in the same lofts overseas and re-branded.  I am sure that is an 
over-simplification, but there it is.   Difficult to compare pricing with the 
cloth specs being a foreign language
 to me. 
 
Thanks in advance.
 
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Re: Stus-List Atomic 4 replacement

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Consider a fresh water cooling kit.  What is the guy replacing on the rebuilt 
engine?  Coil, rebuilding carb, fuel pump?  When I was looking for any A4 
replacement for my Viking there were a few people offering "rebuilt" engines 
but,  all they were doing was wire brushing and spray painting them.I ended up 
going with a Moyer exchange.  That was a true rebuilt with every option Moyer 
sells installed!  EFI and all!Thanks, Danny
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 Date: 12/23/19  10:06 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: cnc-list 
 Cc: Ian Matthew  Subject: 
Stus-List Atomic 4 replacement Hi,After years of abuse and keeping it on life 
support, my A4 finally decided enough is enough.  So now I need to remove it 
and put a replacement back in.  My budget didn't allow for going to a diesel 
but I have a rebuilt A4 coming from a person who rebuilds these as a hobby.  He 
has a very good reputation for the quality of work.I have been persuaded by two 
sailing buddies (both of who race Cal 40's) that this isn't too difficult a job 
and they will help me do the replacement.  I am looking for any tips and 
gotcha's that this venerable group can provide me before I get started.One 
major issue I can see is how to lift the engine off the mounts when the engine 
is under the cockpit.  My engine builder who has done this a few times (but 
can't any more due to his age) suggested I slide a 6x4 under the engine then 
use a 2x4 as a pivot and raise the engine by having someone stand on the 6X4.  
Then once free of the mounts, gently slide it back into the saloon and lift it 
out through the companionway.  Has anyone tried this?I have lots of able-bodied 
helpers to help me so manpower won't be a problem.  I am going to do all this 
at the dock, so no crane to help with the lift.  And while the engine is out, 
I'll remove the fuel tank and clean it out.  I'm sure there's crud at the 
bottom.I'll document the experience for the benefit of others and share it once 
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Re: Stus-List Mantus anchor feedback

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Ok, so I'm pretty set in the Mantus 55lb anchor but have decided against 
stainless.  It just doesn't seem worth the added boat buck. Does anyone have 
any insight on the Mantua bow roller?  My roller got twisted up in the mishap 
and I need to replace it.  I'm wondering if it makes sense to go with a roller 
designed for the anchor? Also, I missed west marine's 15 percent of on 
thanksgiving but they're offering 10 percent tomorrow and that beats the deal 
on the Mantus site.  Go figure...Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/30/19  1:51 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Mantus anchor feedback Hi Dave,  35 is undersized it seems.  I have 
an unused 35lb rocna in my shed as well.  It's from the viking 33 we used to 
own.  Thanks for the offer though!   Especially seeing your right down the 
street! Thanks, Danny Original message From: David Jacobs via 
CnC-List  Date: 11/30/19  11:23 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Jacobs  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Mantus anchor feedback I have a 35 lb  Mantus that was used for one 
week on a cruise (it worked great on my C 35 Mk3) and that’s been sitting in 
my garage for two years. If you’d like to pick it up in Bristol, RI you can 
have it for 75% of whatever you were going to pay for it. Just let me know.Dave 
JOn Nov 29, 2019, at 8:15 PM, sv Rebecca Leah via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hi Danny,I don't have any experience with the 
mantus,  but got the Excel last year and love it. Check out this video, this 
guy has several videos testing many anchors. https://youtu.be/ZuVcCKzdxtUDoug 
Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah C LF39253-208-1412Port Orchard YC wa. 
Original message From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/29/19  15:25  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey  Subject: Stus-List 
Mantus anchor feedback Hi all, Needing to replace my old 35lb CQR.  I'm 
thinking of taking advantage of the black Friday deal for a new stainless 
mantus 55lb.  It's 10 percent of and free shipping.   It seems to have great 
reviews and I like the idea of it breaking down for storage.   Any strong 
feelings either wayDannyTartan 40Mattapoisett, MAThanks, 
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Hi Dave,  35 is undersized it seems.  I have an unused 35lb rocna in my shed as 
well.  It's from the viking 33 we used to own.  Thanks for the offer though!   
Especially seeing your right down the street! Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: David Jacobs via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/30/19  11:23 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Jacobs  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Mantus anchor feedback I have a 35 lb  Mantus that was used for one 
week on a cruise (it worked great on my C 35 Mk3) and that’s been sitting in 
my garage for two years. If you’d like to pick it up in Bristol, RI you can 
have it for 75% of whatever you were going to pay for it. Just let me know.Dave 
JOn Nov 29, 2019, at 8:15 PM, sv Rebecca Leah via CnC-List 
 wrote:Hi Danny,I don't have any experience with the 
mantus,  but got the Excel last year and love it. Check out this video, this 
guy has several videos testing many anchors. https://youtu.be/ZuVcCKzdxtUDoug 
Mountjoy Sv Rebecca Leah C LF39253-208-1412Port Orchard YC wa. 
Original message From: Danny Haughey via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/29/19  15:25  (GMT-08:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Danny Haughey  Subject: Stus-List 
Mantus anchor feedback Hi all, Needing to replace my old 35lb CQR.  I'm 
thinking of taking advantage of the black Friday deal for a new stainless 
mantus 55lb.  It's 10 percent of and free shipping.   It seems to have great 
reviews and I like the idea of it breaking down for storage.   Any strong 
feelings either wayDannyTartan 40Mattapoisett, MAThanks, 
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I was going to go with a rocna at first but really thought the break down 
feature would be nice on a heavy anchor. The charts call for a 55lb anchor for 
my boat but, my boat falls just over the length limit and is right at the 
weight limit for a 45lb anchor.  I thought it might be safer to go bigger but 
the reality is that I'm years away from any lengthy cruising and might even 
trade to a bit bigger boat for that...However, the cost difference isn't that 
big of a deal between the 45 and 55...Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Andrew Burton via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/29/19  10:41 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton  Subject: 
Re: Stus-List Mantus anchor feedback Danny, I replaced my CQR on Masquerade 
with a Mantus Supreme before I went down to the VI last year and was very happy 
with it. And it fit where my CQR had been on the bow. I asked Fatty Goodlander 
what he likes and he said he was smitten with his Rocna. He is currently on his 
third or fourth circumnavigation and is anchored all the time. I don’t see a 
lot of difference between the Rocna and the Mantus.Mind you, on Peregrine I 
never had a complaint about my CQR.CheersAndyAndrew Burton139 Tuckerman 
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 965-5260On Nov 29, 2019, at 21:21, Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 wrote:Stainless is ridiculously expensive. On Fri, Nov 
29, 2019 at 6:26 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List  wrote:Hi 
all, Needing to replace my old 35lb CQR.  I'm thinking of taking advantage of 
the black Friday deal for a new stainless mantus 55lb.  It's 10 percent of and 
free shipping.   It seems to have great reviews and I like the idea of it 
breaking down for storage.   Any strong feelings either wayDannyTartan 
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Yea,  it's $1700 vs $600They look real nice though!  My bow roller needs 
replaced too and I was thinking of going with the mantus roller as well.  I 
thought it would be a nice setup. Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/29/19  9:21 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Joel Aronson  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Mantus anchor feedback Stainless is ridiculously expensive. On Fri, 
Nov 29, 2019 at 6:26 PM Danny Haughey via CnC-List  
wrote:Hi all, Needing to replace my old 35lb CQR.  I'm thinking of taking 
advantage of the black Friday deal for a new stainless mantus 55lb.  It's 10 
percent of and free shipping.   It seems to have great reviews and I like the 
idea of it breaking down for storage.   Any strong feelings either 
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Hi all, Needing to replace my old 35lb CQR.  I'm thinking of taking advantage 
of the black Friday deal for a new stainless mantus 55lb.  It's 10 percent of 
and free shipping.   It seems to have great reviews and I like the idea of it 
breaking down for storage.   Any strong feelings either wayDannyTartan 
40Mattapoisett, MAThanks, Danny

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Re: Stus-List Boat insurance...reimbursement vs. depreciated coverage...

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Geico marine insurance is depreciating my anchor roller, blow pulpit and 
stanchions by 80% because they say those parts are from 1985...Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: ALAN BERGEN via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/10/19  5:27 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: C 
 Cc: ALAN BERGEN  Subject: Re: 
Stus-List Boat insurance...reimbursement vs. depreciated coverage... I have 
Geico Insurance through BoatUS. Agreed value is agreed value. They only 
depreciate items that are depreciable, like sails or the engine. A couple of 
years ago, my boom cracked after getting hung up on a crab pot. Geico paid the 
full cost of replacing the boom - parts and labor, with no depreciation. I 
suspect your new insurance company's policy does the same thing.Alan Bergen35 
Mk III ThirstyRose City YCPortland, OROn Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 1:39 PM David 
Risch via CnC-List  wrote:







I may be repeating myself here, but it bears repeating.  Check your boat 
coverage.  BoatIUS had reimbursement coverage before they switched to GEICO as 
their carrier last year.  Now it is depreciated value coverage.  Reimbursement 
coverage
 pays for replacing damages up to the agreed value.  Depreciated coverage drops 
to 20% over time to where most of our boats would only receive 20% of fixing 
damages!   I switched coverage when I learned of this and I still pay the same 
premium.

 
I bring this up because one of our brethren has been caught by this issue after 
a recent incident.  If your broker cannot find a reimbursement carrier, let me 
know.  I will provide the contact info of my guy. 




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Re: Stus-List Boat insurance...reimbursement vs. depreciated coverage...

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It's actually only on parts you can't prove are not over 20 years old.  Then 
the parts reimbursement starts dropping off.  Labor is covered 100%Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: David Risch via CnC-List 
 Date: 11/10/19  4:39 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: David Risch  Subject: Stus-List 
Boat insurance...reimbursement vs. depreciated coverage... 

I may be repeating myself here, but it bears repeating.  Check your boat 
coverage.  BoatIUS had reimbursement coverage before they switched to GEICO as 
their carrier last year.  Now it is depreciated value coverage.  Reimbursement 
coverage
 pays for replacing damages up to the agreed value.  Depreciated coverage drops 
to 20% over time to where most of our boats would only receive 20% of fixing 
damages!   I switched coverage when I learned of this and I still pay the same 
premium.

 
I bring this up because one of our brethren has been caught by this issue after 
a recent incident.  If your broker cannot find a reimbursement carrier, let me 
know.  I will provide the contact info of my guy. 




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Re: Stus-List Free VHF Cable..

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is that for going up the mast?  so like 58' usable?  I might be able to 
use that


Danny

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I ordered 65’ of LMR-240 Ultra-Flex VHF cable and when it arrived I 
found a casing breach at about 7’ in from one end.  ShowMeCables, to 
their credit, immediately shipped a replacement, at no charge.  For 
shipping and a donation to Stu…anybody want?



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Re: Stus-List Boat Selling Tips

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 Jake, Have you gotten any calls at all? If not then your add and/or photos are 
not working.   Was your broker able to give you a sold boats comparison of C 
like yours?   That week help you know if your pricing is reasonable. If you are 
getting calls and showings then, there is something with the boat. Do you have 
maintenance records?  When's the last time the rig was serviced/replaced.  How 
old are the sails, life lines, cushions, head hoses  etc...  clean clean clean. 
 Does it have that gross old boat smell?  Scrub the bilge.  That really helps. 
If the boat needs sails & standing rigging you should adjust your price too 
allow for those or do it yourself and out that in the ad.  I replaced sails and 
standing rigging on a Viking 33 and the cost was almost $6k.  I certainly take 
all this into considering when I've been boat shopping.  So many people defer 
defer defer and then expect high market value. My Viking was clean had new 
everything, including a new engine and I got high market value in 6 weeks on 
the market. I sold it myself.  I listed everywhere.  SailboatOwners, 
sailboatlistings, sailboatdata, Craigslist, anywhere i could find.  I paid some 
for preferred listings.   Take pictures that will show as much of the whole 
interior spaces as possible.   Close ups of the range and locker ands head do 
nothing to paint an overall picture.  Some brokers use fish eye lenses, don't 
do that. Those photos are awful. I can't stress enough that a clean oder free 
boat is essential.  Keep the boat looking as though you just left not like 
you've walked away from a foreclosure.  Take everything off and leave only the 
bare essentials and well organised.  Then, a potential buyer will think, "the 
person who owned this boat was very particular"  So it's either amazing 
condition or great pricing that will attract a buyer.  Thanks, Danny
 Original message From: Jake Brodersen via CnC-List 
 Date: 10/20/19  10:10 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: captain_j...@cox.net Subject: Stus-List Boat Selling 
Tips Hi guys,I’ve been lurking for quite some time, but still have an interest 
for this great group.  Having purchased a larger cruising boat last year 
(Bavaria 44), I have tried for over a year to sell my 1986 C Mk-III.  I 
initially tried to sell it myself.  I listed it on Craigslist, advertised on 
the FSBO web site (for sale by owner), and spread the word through my local 
sailors.When summer turned to fall and no action, I enlisted a reputable local 
broker to list my boat.  After listing it on Yacht World for over a year, we 
have yet to have a single buyer interested enough to even come take a look at 
it.  The boat is well equipped for racing and cruising and comes with a ton of 
equipment.  I’ve dropped the price over $10K and still no interest.  What does 
it take to sell a boat these days?  Any suggestions would be 
appreciated.Thanks,Jake Brodersen1986 C 35 Mk-III“Midnight Mistress”Hampton 
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Stus-List Mattapoisett harbor mishaps...

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Well, I just heard from Peter Costa... another boat, right next to me, 
Panache, broke free of its mooring and slammed into my boat...  
Apparently, his bow pulpit grabbed my anchor and ran off with it, 
slamming into another boat.  pulled the anchor and rode, beat the hell 
out on my pulpit, bent up my stanchions, and scratched the hell out of 
my new paint job...  He said my boat is safe on its mooring at the 
moment but it's still too rough out there to deal with the anchor which, 
is still connected to the boat by the rode but pulled pretty far away 
from it...   He said I'm in for ANOTHER new paint job!



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Re: Stus-List cockpit cup holders

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

we use robocup holders and are very happy with them.  they are a heavy 
spring loaded clamp on style and can clamp on a stanchion, or the 
binnacle guard, or any other verticle 1-1/2 inch or less. They never 
fall off accidentally and we remove them after every sail.  Kind of like 
the instrument covers routine.  The instrument covers come off and go in 
the space where we store the robocups which then go out in the cockpit 
and vice versa.   they are like $20 each but our first one is probably 7 
years old and still works perfectly.  I guess the only downside is that 
the mounting orientation is fixed but, that has never been an issue for 
us as we mount them on the binnacle guard.


funny thing was, I kept eying one in the ships store at our last 
marina.  They had just one, clamped to a shelving rack.  Finally I said, 
I'll have that!  They all started laughing and making fun of me...  
"what the hell are you gunna do with that?!"  they said... We loved them 
so much a bought 2 more and I may buy another one to have 4.  There are 
2 cup-holders per robocup so we have 6 cup holders now and may have 2 
more soon


https://www.therobocup.com/

Danny

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The clamp mounts are too small for our binnacle (which is 1.25") but 
they also come with velcro straps with rubber non-slide that work very 
well.  They also do an admirable job of swinging with the wheel.


Hoping you find this helpful,

Bruce Whitmore

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Re: Stus-List Sailboat surveyor in Salem MA area

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I used George to survey a Catalina 38 a few years ago.  I ended up not 
buying the boat due to his findings.  He did a very thorough survey and 
I would not hesitate to use him again!


George Gallup, AMS®, Accredited Marine Surveyor®
Gallup Yacht Surveying
13 Sherman Terrace, Lynn, MA 01902-4621 USA
Phone 1-781-598-5465
E-Mail geo...@gallupyachtsurveying.com 


Web www.GallupYachtSurveying.com 

On 7/16/2019 9:39 AM, George Cone via CnC-List wrote:


I can highly recommend Tom Ferguson, I don’t know where he is now but 
here is his old address and email


Thomas J. Ferguson

677 Lake Avenue

Manchester, NH 03103

Try – 603-669-0734

TOM FERGUSON t...@prodigy.net 

George Cone

C 40

Killington VT

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Clark via CnC-List

*Sent:* Tuesday, July 16, 2019 8:06 AM
*To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
*Cc:* Blair Clark 
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sailboat surveyor in Salem MA area

Sorry for any inconvenience Salem MA



*From:*CnC-List > on behalf of ALAN BERGEN via 
CnC-List mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>>

*Sent:* July 15, 2019 10:40:46 PM
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*Cc:* ALAN BERGEN
*Subject:* Re: Stus-List Sailboat surveyor in Salem area

Are you referring to Salem, OR, or Salem, MA? If Salem, OR. I can 
recommend Alison Mazon (503) 358-6983 or Joe Derie (503) 953-4008. 
I've used both of them, and they are excellent, reliable surveyors. 
They're both in Portland, but that's only about thirty-five miles from 
Salem.


Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

On Mon, Jul 15, 2019 at 5:37 PM Blair Clark via CnC-List 
mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


Hello,

Does anyone feel confident to recommend a yacht surveyor in the
Salem area? If so who?

Hull, electrical engine.

Thank you,

Blair



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*Cc:* Hoyt, Mike
*Subject:* Stus-List Bulkhead replacement project 

No not on Persistence but on a couple of J22s.  I decided to
document the replacement of the bulkhead on this latest J22 and
post the progress on the web.  If anyone is interested it can be
viewed at http://www.hoytsailing.com/J22Project/J22No6.htm



Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Frers 33 #16

www.hoytsailing.com 

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Re: Stus-List To The Cleaner

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This is exactly why I hate letting people work on my boat...The fact is that,  
had you tried polishing yourself, you may have had similar results.  However, 
you might have stopped after the first one...It really was just a matter of 
time before those parts started looking like that...  I think for your own 
better mental health,  you could come to an agreement with the guy to not have 
to pay and see if he'll pay to fix the Dodger.  Bring it somewhere reputable 
and send the guy the bill.   If the glass wasn't perfect to begin with, maybe 
you could split the cost because you're ending up with better than you had.  If 
your glass was perfect then he should foot the whole bill.  In the end try not 
to get to angry.  Just work with guy and allow him the opportunity to make it 
right.  I've been through 3 much bigger ordeals than this on 2 different boats. 
 My advice is, don't take it personally and just try to fix the issue with as 
little pain as possible and put it behind you as soon as possible.  You'll be 
much happier in the end and enjoy your boat much more!  Keep in mind, this guy 
didn't want this situation as much as you didn't.  Stay calm and try not to be 
angry with him (this is your biggest hurdle! ) and see where he goes with it. 
One ordeal I had was the yard picked my boat up from the prop shaft and lied to 
management about it.  Management sided with their guys and came up with all 
kinds of reasons why my strut broke and why my prop was vibrating mercilessly 
under power, and none of those reasons could be their fault.  So, I addressed 
all their theories one at a time, calmly and never losing my cool.  None of 
their theories solved the issue and in the end they had ri admit they did it at 
haul out.  The owner of the yard apologized and covered all the cost of chasing 
things down, fixed my boat put me back in and I had wonderful season.  It cost 
me about 6 weeks though.  It was the first year I was in before memorial day 
and with all that I was back in just before the 4 th of July.  I shook hands 
with the owner professed no hard feelings and gained a really nice relationship 
with the owner afterwards.The second issue was way worse, same story though.  
The yard screwed up, would not own it made up lots of fantasy scenarios as to 
why it couldn't be their fault.  I had it fixed, during the repairs, their 
mistake was revealed without doubt.  Boat got fixed, gained some good 
relationships along they way and I'm now happy and only feel sorry for the 
jackass that couldn't behave like a gentleman or a professional, and had a huge 
spotlight shined on his failings in the process.  That guy never apologized or 
anything but had to eat crow to not only his regional manager but the three 
vice president of the north east division after all the shit he talked about me 
"just trying to get something for nothing!"  Sorry for the long 
blathering...Thanks, Danny
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Re: Stus-List Holding Tank and Archives

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

I'd start by contacting Holland marine.  That guy has lots of cnc specific 
stuff and good adviceThanks, Danny
 Original message From: Paul via CnC-List 
 Date: 7/3/19  7:53 AM  (GMT-05:00) To: 
cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: paul.h...@rogers.com Subject: Stus-List Holding Tank 
and Archives Hey all, I am looking for info on holding tanks.  I need to 
replace mine asI suspect its very old and is now cracking (fortunately on the 
top side fornow).  The crazing lines in the hard plastic are turning to cracks. 
   I'mlooking for suppliers - maybe even in Canada.  The tank is a 
triangularshaped under the V-berth.  I know we've discussed them before and I'd 
loveto look back at the old archive threads but there are over 160 month 
toindividually walk through.  Side questions - Is there an easier way tosearch 
all of that, maybe a single search button I'm missing? Knowing thatwould likely 
lower the traffic around here.Paul Hood'81 C 34 - Georgian 
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Stus-List Fire Extinguisher on sale

[Danny Haughey via CnC-List]

Hi Guys,

I just saw this on Woot . com.  Thought some might be interested

First Alert Standard Home Fire Extinguisher (2-Pack) 



$39.99$59.9833% off list price

The manual says it is USCG approved.

Marine Type, U.S.C.G. Type B:C, Size I U.S.C.G. Approval Number 
162.028/EX3622 Valid only with Bracket Number P87-0340 or Bracket Number 
B70-0161 and Strap Number S70-0007. Bracket included


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