Cocoon 2.1 CVS and Java 1.4.2

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

Just reporting that Cocoon 2.1 CVS run using Sun Java 1.4.2. My config:

Red Hat Linux 9
Java 1.4.2
Tomcat 4.1.24
Cocoon 2.1 CVS

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



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Re: using xsp

[Antonio Gallardo]

Bößem dijo:
> hi,
>
> i am quite unexperienced within cocoon, espacially when it comes to the
> use of java within xsp documents.
>
> anyway, i am trying to do - in the fist step - a simple email
> validation. To test if and how xsp documents have to structured i wrote
> a simle code, to check if it works.
>
> Unfortunatly it doesn't
>
> the xsp code is the following:
>
>   
>   java.util.regex.Matcher
>   java.util.regex.Pattern
>   
>
>  
>   
> String msg = "";
> String input = "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" ;
> Pattern pattern = Pattern.compile("@");
> Matcher matcher = pattern.matcher( input );
>
>   if (matcher.find()) {
> msg = "valide email";
>   }
>   else {
> msg = "not valid";
>
>   }
> }
>   
>   msg

To the last line add some HTML tags, for esample if you wish to see the
result, add something like:


  msg



Also FYI, instead of write your own valitation, check the FormValidator
Action.

A very nice source of info is http://wiki.cocoondev.org/

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



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RE: from an XSP page

[Antonio Gallardo]

hi:

OKAY! I hear your voice :)

I attach 3 files:

1- bienvenidos.xsp  - a welcome page after authentication that get the
user name from the authentication framework. Is an example of how to use
it. Please check the XSP header.
2-XSPSessionHelper1.java - The Helper class that have a helper method for
the  tag.

You need to put this file into your cocoon CVS at:

src/blocks/session-fw/java/org/apache/cocoon/webapps/session/components

3-session.xsp - Include the new tag . You need to
deploy it at:

src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/language/markup/xsp/java

After deploying the "XSPSessionHelper1.java" and "session.xsl" rebuild
Cocoon.

That is it!

You now will be able to use the  from XSP!

BTW, I dont know why does not include this to the CVS. It is nearly a year
since the bug 13070 is there. I am too lazy to do the patch for this tag
again. Sorry.

I hope it would really help.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

> I get the error :
> The prefix "xsp-session" for element "xsp-session:getxml" is not bound
>
> I have a real problem! Because we have two applications with cocoon. I
> developped in XSP and the other with XML-Forms. He made the
> authentification and portal.
> Now in my application (there is a link between the two) I need the user
> name and role. How can I get them if I can't read an xml file???
>
> Help please!
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent:
> Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE:  from an XSP page
>
>
>> So how can I get the user information from my portal?
>
> I dont know. XSP does not support:
>
> 
>
> Because this is a transformer tag. I dont use portal block at all. This
> is
> a good question that I posted last year and appears like nobody has
> interest in use sesion tags with XSP.
>
> I have a code that can help you but I never tried it with a tag like
> you:
>
> 
>
> I wrote the tag to use it just for access the authentication framework:
>
>  path="/authentication/data/nombre_completo"/>
>
> If you are interested in it, let me know and I can send you the lastest
> code that work with current CVS.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
>
>
>>
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>> From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent:
>> Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:58 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re:  from an XSP page
>>
>>
>> The tag is not part of the Cocoon distribution. See error 13070 in
>> bugzilla.
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>
>>> Is it possible (and how) to set >> path="/parameter/role"/> into a variable in XSP? I tried
>>> String role = >> path="/parameter/role"/>;
>>>
>>> But cocoon returns the error
>>> "Type mismatch: cannot convert from void to String"
>>>
>>> thanks
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bienvenidos.xsp
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XSPSessionHelper1.java
Description: Binary data







http://www.w3.org/1999/XSL/Transform";
  xmlns:xsp="http://apache.org/xsp";
  xmlns:xsp-session="http://apache.org/xsp/session/2.0";>

  
  

  

  
org.apache.cocoon.environment.Session
	org.apache.avalon.framework.component.ComponentManager
org.apache.cocoon.webapps.session.components.XSPSessionHelper1
  

  

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Session session = request.getSession();
  

  

  

  

  

  


  
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Re: AW: from an XSP page

[Antonio Gallardo]

Markus Heussen dijo:
> Did you try
>
> String role =  path="/parameter/role"/>.toString();
>
> ?

I dont believe this can work. :(

But you can try! :)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo
>
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> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. Juni 2003 13:53
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> Betreff:  from an XSP page
>
>
> Is it possible (and how) to set  path="/parameter/role"/> into a variable in XSP? I tried
> String role =  path="/parameter/role"/>;
>
> But cocoon returns the error
> "Type mismatch: cannot convert from void to String"
>
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RE: from an XSP page

[Antonio Gallardo]

> So how can I get the user information from my portal?

I dont know. XSP does not support:



Because this is a transformer tag. I dont use portal block at all. This is
a good question that I posted last year and appears like nobody has
interest in use sesion tags with XSP.

I have a code that can help you but I never tried it with a tag like you:



I wrote the tag to use it just for access the authentication framework:



If you are interested in it, let me know and I can send you the lastest
code that work with current CVS.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.


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> -Original Message-
> From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent:
> Thursday, June 12, 2003 1:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re:  from an XSP page
>
>
> The tag is not part of the Cocoon distribution. See error 13070 in
> bugzilla.
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
>
>> Is it possible (and how) to set > path="/parameter/role"/> into a variable in XSP? I tried
>> String role = > path="/parameter/role"/>;
>>
>> But cocoon returns the error
>> "Type mismatch: cannot convert from void to String"
>>
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Re: from an XSP page

[Antonio Gallardo]

The tag is not part of the Cocoon distribution. See error 13070 in bugzilla.

Antonio Gallardo.

> Is it possible (and how) to set  path="/parameter/role"/> into a variable in XSP? I tried
> String role =  path="/parameter/role"/>;
>
> But cocoon returns the error
> "Type mismatch: cannot convert from void to String"
>
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Re: Alias in database descriptor file

[Antonio Gallardo]

Amelie Cordier dijo:
> I want to describe a
> table in two different way and call the first one in one table-set and
> the other one in a second table-set...

Hi, check this:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ModularDatabaseActions

Sorry, I can't explain in more detail this. I am too busy now. :(

Antonio Gallardo




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Re: cocoon2.1 causing ungraceful shutdown on Tomcat4.1.18 ?

[Antonio Gallardo]

e nio dijo:
>   I have cocoon2.1dev and the newer cocoon2.1m2 which I observed
> when deployed on Tomcat 4.1.18, causes Tomcat not to shutdown
> gracefully. I get that status of Servlet did not call
> System.exit().  You can try and verify my observation if you
> have the Tomcat4.1.18 and start it with  ./catalina.sh start
> command. fyi i have jdk1.4.0_01.

There is also the J2SDK 1.4.1_03 it works a little more smooth. I use it
every day and seems to be stable.

>   The only way I can kill the process is via a kill -15
> javathatstartedcocoonpid.

Hey?! are you tried kill -9? This is THE real killer! lol.

>  The effect may not be apparent but it
> was causing a major headache for me because I also have
> Jetspeed1.4-b4 that does not come up on subsequent restart of
> Tomcat due to Tomcat ungraceful exit.
> Anyone else experience this?

Yes, everybody. This is a current bug. In Cocoon:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=18131

A WORKAROUND is at the endo of the link. To developers, please confirm
this bug.

I also noted there is another bug in tomcat, but I am not sure if this is
total related to the above. In Tomcat:
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=17193

I am not a guru to tell if this is the same error.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo




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Re: mod-db - Updating multiple rows

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi Amelie:

Nice example!

This way we better explain things. The words sometimes are not too clear.
Here right now is 4:00 a.m. At 9:00 a.m. comes other people to the office.

We had a similar problem, but to be honest, I dont resolved it. The guru
is my coworker Carlos Chavez. When he comes I will ask him about this
stuff. And I promise to post to the list what he told. Of course he is on
the list too, but never sent a mail. I think he found another solution
using ESQL on XSP. Our problem was more related to insertion of files than
to the update. Anyway when he comes I will ask him about this stuff.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



Amelie Cordier dijo:
> Hi again
>
>> Christian Haul dijo:
>>> One thing is impossible, though: update may not affect key columns.
>>> This
>>>  has been requested by Antonio but he didn't come up with a patch so
>>> far
>>> ;-)
>
> Yes, I read that on the mailing list archive last week :)
>
>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> I dont made the patch since it is posible to create and alias of the
>> table and change the key values. I know this is a hack, but it works.
>> :)
>
> I've tried all the solutions you suggested to me but it doesn't work and
> I can't find anything in the log files :(
>
> I may have badly explain my problem...because I don't want to update a
> key field. As my english is poor, I think that an example is better than
> a long explanation.
>
> In my table I've the following records :
> idA idB idC idD MyString
> 
> 1   3   5   6
> 1   3   5   7
> 1   5   5   9
>
> And after the update, I want something like that :
>
> idA idB idC idD MyString
> 
> 1   3   5   6   hello
> 1   3   5   7   world
> 1   5   5   9   !
>
> The four numbers of each rows are the key of the field and they are
> never modified during an update. Furthermore, during one update, only
> the idD key part varies and, of course, the attribute "MyString"...
>
>
> Here is a sample of code that I've tried. I've put idD either as a key
> or as a value but with no results.
>
>
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> Once again, I'm lost
> Thanks in advance.
>
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Re: mod-db - Updating multiple rows

[Antonio Gallardo]

Christian Haul dijo:
> One thing is impossible, though: update may not affect key columns. This
>  has been requested by Antonio but he didn't come up with a patch so far
> ;-)

Hi!

I dont made the patch since it is posible to create and alias of the table
and change the key values. I know this is a hack, but it works. :)

Intentionally, change the "changing keys" to a "value" attribute. That is
all. It works. for us. Of course you need to use set="master" where you
need.

Another way is to create a special action (maybe an XSP-Action) to do the
work. For more info: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XSPAction

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

For example to delete all the records from a table we did it. Please note
we define the alias just with the fields we are interested in. If a field
is not interesting in a given action just dont write it. The same apply to
the keys.

table name="auth_users_roles">
  

  
  


  

  




  

  

  






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Re: mod-db - Updating multiple rows

[Antonio Gallardo]

Amelie Cordier dijo:
> Hi Antonio,
>
>
> Thanks for your quick response :)
> I've tried your solution but it doesn't work :(
>
> Do I really need to use the sets too?

Yes, of course.

Antonio Gallardo.
>
>
>> Hi:
>>
>> We had the same problem. Create and alias for your table and put the
>> variable keys element not into  tag, but as values. It must
>> work. We have some tables with 5 keys fields and it works.
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>
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Re: mod-db - Updating multiple rows

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

We had the same problem. Create and alias for your table and put the
variable keys element not into  tag, but as values. It must work. We
have some tables with 5 keys fields and it works.

Antonio Gallardo.




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Please take care a virus is near of us!

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

For all Windows users of the list,

Right now, I receved a rare mail from Upayavira. I want to warning all of
you that the mail can be virus. But I am not sure, because I am using
Linux. The topic was interesting since was got from this list.

Of course there was an attach with a .exe extension.

Be aware!

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



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Re: recommed upgrading to Xalan 2.5 when using document() regularly

[Antonio Gallardo]

Joerg Heinicke dijo:
> Do you think the bug is fixed in current Xalan? If it's not we have it
> in  Cocoon 2.0  too ;-)
I am not sure about this, but people was waiting for the new Xalan that
will solve this problem. BTW, there is also a discusion about change Xalan
also in 2.0. I dont use 2.0 then I dont know is there is the same problem.

Antonio.
>
> Joerg
>
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> Joerg Heinicke dijo:
>>
>>>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>
>>>>Joerg Heinicke dijo:
>>>>
>>>>>I upgraded Xalan to 2.5.1 and Xerces to 2.4.0 in the Cocoon 2.0 CVS,
>>>>> so they should be in the next Cocoon 2.0.x release - I guess the 5
>>>>> comes after the 4 ;-)
>>>>
>>>>Cool! I think we can close the bug related to document() function!
>>>
>>>Hello Anotnio,
>>>
>>>to which one you refer?
>>
>>
>> This?
>> http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=20381
>>
>> Antonio
>>
>>>Joerg
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Re: recommed upgrading to Xalan 2.5 when using document() regularly

[Antonio Gallardo]

Joerg Heinicke dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> Joerg Heinicke dijo:
>>>I upgraded Xalan to 2.5.1 and Xerces to 2.4.0 in the Cocoon 2.0 CVS,
>>> so they should be in the next Cocoon 2.0.x release - I guess the 5
>>> comes after the 4 ;-)
>>
>> Cool! I think we can close the bug related to document() function!
>
> Hello Anotnio,
>
> to which one you refer?

This?
http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=20381

Antonio
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Re: recommed upgrading to Xalan 2.5 when using document() regularly

[Antonio Gallardo]

Joerg Heinicke dijo:
> Hello Bruce,
>
> I upgraded Xalan to 2.5.1 and Xerces to 2.4.0 in the Cocoon 2.0 CVS, so
> they should be in the next Cocoon 2.0.x release - I guess the 5 comes
> after the 4 ;-)

Cool! I think we can close the bug related to document() function!

Antonio Gallardo.




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RE: clear cache problems

[Antonio Gallardo]

> cocoon 2.0 and tomcat 4.1.18

Hi:

Try to upgrade to Tomcat 4.1.24. It is better stable than the 4.1.18 I had
many problems related as your with 4.1.18 like yours + others, like blank
pages after a while.

Also java version? We are using 1.4.1_03 and looks pretty stable. Running
since yesterday.

Antonio Gallardo.

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> From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent:
> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:29 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: clear cache problems
>
>
> What versions are you using?
>
> Antonio Gallardo
>
>> no, because if I take Opera and load any page that I have never
>> requested I get the same error!
>> The problem must be on the server. Do I have to reinstall it? I really
>> tried to delete all cache-files! I don't see any other possibility
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:20 AM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: clear cache problems
>>
>>
>> Hi:
>>
>> I saw this problem always in Explorer. Sometimes explorer is too smart
>> that prefer to not download the page. Instead it gets it from the
> local
>> disk cache.
>>
>> I recommend you to change options of how IE manages the cache.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> I have problems with the cache. Sometimes I change a page (eg the
>>> sitemap) and it's still the old page that is displayed! Even if I
>>> restart the server, the computer, the client, IE's cache!
>>>
>>> How is it possible to take the changes
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RE: clear cache problems

[Antonio Gallardo]

What versions are you using?

Antonio Gallardo

> no, because if I take Opera and load any page that I have never
> requested I get the same error!
> The problem must be on the server. Do I have to reinstall it? I really
> tried to delete all cache-files! I don't see any other possibility
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent:
> Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:20 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: clear cache problems
>
>
> Hi:
>
> I saw this problem always in Explorer. Sometimes explorer is too smart
> that prefer to not download the page. Instead it gets it from the local
> disk cache.
>
> I recommend you to change options of how IE manages the cache.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
>
>> Hello,
>> I have problems with the cache. Sometimes I change a page (eg the
>> sitemap) and it's still the old page that is displayed! Even if I
>> restart the server, the computer, the client, IE's cache!
>>
>> How is it possible to take the changes
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Re: clear cache problems

[Antonio Gallardo]

Bertrand Delacretaz dijo:
> The best thing if you're not sure about the browser's cache is to test
> without a browser - use wget or telnet to make requests and check the
> results.
>

hi:

Good advise. I use Mozilla instead! ;)

Antonio Gallardo.



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Re: clear cache problems

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

I saw this problem always in Explorer. Sometimes explorer is too smart
that prefer to not download the page. Instead it gets it from the local
disk cache.

I recommend you to change options of how IE manages the cache.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

> Hello,
> I have problems with the cache. Sometimes I change a page (eg the
> sitemap) and it's still the old page that is displayed! Even if I
> restart the server, the computer, the client, IE's cache!
>
> How is it possible to take the changes
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Re: [HELP]Exception in ServerPagesGenerator.generate()

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Thorsten Bökenkamp dijo:
>
> Description:org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Exception in
> ServerPagesGenerator.generate(): java.lang.RuntimeException: Error
> loading driver: oracle.jdbc.driver.OracleDriver
>
>
>
> Was kann ich tun ???

??? I dont understand, but I guess you are asking, "why?"

Well you need to put your Oracle jar library inside cocoon. Concretly at:

WEB-INF/lib

More info at:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=DatabaseConnectionOverview
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Oracle

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Re: J2SDK 1.4.1_03 avaliable!

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

Cocoon compiled and working on the new Sun j2SDk 1.4.1_03!

My config is:

Red Hat Linux 9
Java Sun J2SDK 1.4.1_03
Tomcat 4.1.24
Cocoon CVS 2.1M3 (downloaded 10 minuts ago.)

Antonio Gallardo.

Antonio Gallardo dijo:
> Hi:
>
> The Sun j2SDk 1.4.1_03 is already avaliable to download. See:
>
> http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html
>
> Best Regards,
>
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J2SDK 1.4.1_03 avaliable!

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

The Sun j2SDk 1.4.1_03 is already avaliable to download. See:

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4.1/download.html

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Re: NullPointerException with action-sets

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

This is an old know bug, please check it at:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=9835

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Re: How to save a session context?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

There is no current built-in solution to your question in Cocoon.

But you can customize the session or authentication Manager to your needs.

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Re: Again: "forgotten" namespaces problem

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

Check:
http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=RemoveNamespaces

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Hello Open Office samples

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

This Hello Office documents samples are great!

I think we can change the name to:

Hello OpenOffice.org

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Re: An IDIOT on WiKi!

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Steven Cummings dijo:
> Of course it really can't be prevented, but
>if a cookie is set and an IP
> grabbed, then perhaps that person can be blocked in the future.

Hi:

First sorry to all the list for the subject of the mail. I was the one
that started this thread. I was very upset because I needed to help
someone pointing to this wiki reference.

Also I dont see fair that some of us spend hours trying to put our best
effort writing the wiki docs and some IDIOT destroy the community work. We
really must take some kind of restriction to make a little bit hard to
this kind of people to enter the system and destroy the community work.

When I started to use wiki. I loved that was freely editable, but after
that I think we must find a mechanism to control contribution. I mean this
kind of nonsense contributions that only destroy the builded work.

What we can do?

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An IDIOT on WiKi!

[Antonio Gallardo]

Please check this page:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/PageInfo.jsp?page=XSPSyntax

Surely an IDIOT was destroying our work. This is not fair. I think we must
take some actions against this type of STUPID things!

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Re: XMLForm Question

[Antonio Gallardo]

I think the problem can be related with the improper shutdown of the
current CVS 2.1 with Tomcat. Try to kill the process after the shutdown.

Antonio Gallardo.

JD Daniels dijo:
> Yes, I guess I should have mentioned that I did in fact delete my tomcat
> work directory, shutdown and startup. It did not make a difference...
> hence my frustration :)
>
> I know that when I get this crap figured out, I will never hack php
> again :D The trick is getting it figured heh heh.
>
> JD
>   - Original Message -
>   From: David Kavanagh
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 9:05 AM
>   Subject: Re: XMLForm Question
>
>
>   I think you just need to restart the container (in your case, tomcat).
> In theory, Tomcat use an adaptive classloader that you can configure
> (in server.xml) to reload classes when they change. I was able to use
> this feature when my web app was simple. Once I started having more
> statefull information in memory, I really needed to restart the whole
> app (and tomcat) when I changed my code.  BTW, If you were to use
> JBoss/Jetty, you should be able to take advantage of the JBoss
> hot-deploy feature. The idea being if you touch the web.xml under
> cocoon, jboss should redeploy the app, and pick up your code change.
> At this point, JBoss exits when I try this. I'm sure I'm doing
> something wrong.
>
>   David
>
>   JD Daniels wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answer Sylvain
>
> That was what I had thought... after I restarted my machine, it all
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Re: Authentication - Accessing The Context

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> Also is it possible to access the information stored in the
> 'authentication'
> context via 'xsp-session' in an XSP.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tony


"Officially" you cannot use the  but if you apply the
path at:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070

you can use the tag in XSP.

By the way, there are rumors that the session support will change sometime
from now, because the new Servlet container specification changes. I am
not aware when the Cocoon developers will do that but as Christian Haul
said:

Sorry - needed to revert (the modified) patch as it conflicts with the
plan to separate XSPRequestHelper and XSPSessionHelper. OTOH applying
it directly would create a dependency to the session-fw block. Next
alternative would be to duplicate the session.xsl functionality or to
create a logicsheet containing only the getxml tag.

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Re: [ANN] sunBow 1.0

[Antonio Gallardo]

wow! Congratulations. I will try it.

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Martin Dulisch dijo:
> The S&N sunBow team are proud to announce version 1.0. This free
> version is available immediately for download at:
> http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/. In addition to numerous bug-fixes,
> the new version now also supports sub-sitemaps and no longer requires a
> licence key.
>
> sunBow is a collection of Eclipse (2.1) plugins that make it easier to
> develop Cocoon based applications and XML solutions in general.
>
>   * XML editor
> - completition proposals from associated schema
> - well formed check on save
> - automatic insertion of closing tags
> - formatting of the XML content
>
>   * XSLT development
> - XSLT transformation
> - transformation trace
>
>   * Cocoon
> - dialog orientated sitemap editor with drag and drop support
>   and validation against a sitemap schema
> - management of sitemap fragments
> - configuration of the log level in logkit.xconf
>
>   * Web application
> - deployment: automatic tracking of changes
> - testing: Apache Latka tests can be executed
>
>
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RE: wml generator ?

[Antonio Gallardo]

OPss, you are right. :-).

I already checked some mail from http://w3c.org. it seems like we need to
find a converter from WML -> XML.

Are you already tried with HTML Generator? Maybe it can work.

Antonio Gallardo.

zze-MORY Nicolas FTRD/DMI/REN dijo:
> Yves, yes we can serialize but my problem is th generato. I think that
> Antonio is rights, there's no WML generator...
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Yves Vindevogel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: vendredi 14 mars 2003 10:50
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: wml generator ?
>
>
>
> Sorry to correct you, Antonio, but yes you can ...
> you can serialize with 
>
> Nicolas: The book "Cocoon, building XML Applications" from Langham and
> Ziegeler (both posters on this community too) has a chapter on it:
> chapter 5.   On page 131 you can see how they do it ...
>
>
>> zze-MORY Nicolas FTRD/DMI/REN dijo:
>> > does exists a WML generator for cocoon ?
>>
>> NO. There is only a HTML and a XML generator
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
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>
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Re: wml generator ?

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zze-MORY Nicolas FTRD/DMI/REN dijo:
> does exists a WML generator for cocoon ?
NO. There is only a HTML and a XML generator

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Re: best Java for RedHat?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

I am happily using Sun JSDK 1.4.1_01 in Red Hat 8.0 without any problem

Antonio Gallardo

Jeremy Quinn dijo:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am setting up Cocoon on a Linux box for the first time (I am new to
> Linux).
>
> Is this a good JVM to be running, or is there a stable 1.4.1 for this
> platform?
>
> % java -version
> java version "1.3.1"
> jdkgcj 0.2.3 (http://www.arklinux.org/projects/jdkgcj)
> gcj (GCC) 3.2 20020903 (Red Hat Linux 8.0 3.2-7)
> Copyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
> This is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is
> NO
> warranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR
> PURPOSE.
>
>
> Thanks for any suggestions.
>
> regards Jeremy
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RE: Forms

[Antonio Gallardo]

The (X)HTML forms can be easily done using Cocoon. You can use the
FormValidator Transformer to Validate the forms.

If you wish database support you can also make use of Modular Database
Actions.

On the other hand. I have no experience in writting XSL-FO forms. I dont
know if we can use the PDF Serializer to create PDF Forms. :-(

I already use XSL-FO but not to create forms.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

Ines Robbers dijo:
> Dear Antonio,
>
> These forms should be available online as well as being printable.
> Depending on the form it can either be filled in and send back online or
> in case of serious issues such as an application the form should be
> printable so that people can send it back by post.
> Only in the future online applications will be allowed when the digital
> signature has been established.
>
> The current format of the forms are pdf (example:
> http://www.uni-potsdam.de/u/studium/formulare/a_wechsel_studiengang.pdf)
>
> I guess it would be nice to have versions in XHTML and PDF at least.
>
> The problem is that I have no idea how Cocoon handles forms and how I
> should go about this.
>
> I'd appreciate your help!
>
> Ines
>
>
> Antonio Gallardo:
> * Please be a little more specific. The forms will be filled
> * online or just printed by your customer and sended back to you via.
>
>
> Ines Robbers:
> * > We want to use Cocoon for our forms (application forms etc.). It  *
>> should be something like a "form center". What is the best
> * > approach to realise this? Are there any examples on the net?
>
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Re: Forms

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

Please be a little more specific. The forms will be filled online or just
printed by your customer and sended back to you via.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

Ines Robbers dijo:
> Hello list,
>
> We want to use Cocoon for our forms (application forms etc.).
> It should be something like a "form center".
> What is the best approach to realise this?
> Are there any examples on the net?
>
> Many thanks!
>
> Ines
>
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Re: AW: AW: AW: encoding and xsp

[Antonio Gallardo]

Nice to hear that!

Thank you too and welcome to Cocoon!

Antonio Gallardo

> Hi, thanks for your hints. It works now. What i have done was to put
> into my main sitemap this:
>
>  name="html" pool-grow="4" pool-max="32" pool- min="4"
> src="org.apache.cocoon.serialization.HTMLSerializer">
>   1024
>   ISO-8859-1
> 
>
> I just changed it within a sub sitemap. Anyway thanks
>
> Best regard to you ;-)
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 14:40
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: AW: AW: encoding and xsp
>
>
> Hi:
>
> Take it easy! This is a standard problem when you start to using Cocoon.
> :-D
>
> What I am trying to said is that only putting the header is not enough.
> Just for reference. I use spanish and I had the same problem as you we I
> started with Cocoon.
>
> I dont use Windows anymore. But I can recommend you jEdit.
> (http://www.jEdit.org) to write XML stuff.
>
> In jEdit you have "buffer options" that allow you to define the
> character encoding for your saved files. That means How the file will be
> encoded BEFORE is saved into the hard disk. Of course the headers are
> importants too.
>
> Please feel free to ask if you have more questions. ;-)
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo
>
>
>> I am not shure what you mean, but i added to the header of all xsp and
>>  xsl document the same encoding sceme!
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 14:27
>> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Betreff: Re: AW: encoding and xsp
>>
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> Please note that you must be sure that you are using the correct
>> encoding to save your files.
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>
>>
>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> thanks for your hints. i tried it, but it still does not work. i was
>>> not sure, if you mean to specifiy it within the , or
>>>  i did it in both. i also specified it within in the
>>> jdbc connection. but no success.
>>>
>>> Is it necessary to specify main sitemap, or is it also possible to
>>> put  it into the sub-sitemap?
>>>
>>> here is how i added it:
>>>
>>>  
>>>   
>>>ISO-8859-1
>>>   
>>>  i did the same for the serializer and
>>> transformer.
>>>
>>> and ...
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>  ISO-8859-1
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ISO-8859-1
>>> 
>>> 
>>>  ISO-8859-1
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> if i read through the outputtet html, there is still a tag like:
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: Andres, Judith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 09:42
>>> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Betreff: AW: encoding and xsp
>>>
>>>
>>> Try specifying an encoding inside the serializer declaration in your
>>> sitemap:
>>>
>>>  
>>> ISO-8859-1
>>>   
>>>
>>> HTH Judith
>>>
>>>
>>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>>> Von: boessem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 09:39
>>> An: Cocoon-Users
>>> Betreff: encoding and xsp
>>>
>>>
>>> hi,
>>>
>>> i do not understand why the encoding works different for words i use
>>> wihtin the xsp document and words i get via the url.
>>>
>>> an example:
>>>
>>> I have got a form, where students should be able to apply for a
>>> specific exame. wihtin this form (a xsp document) there are some
>>> explainations of how to use the form and what to fill in. characters
>>> within these sentences  like ä,ö,ü etc. are
>>> getting  transformed  into html perfectly. (so no trouble).
>>>
>>> but:
>>>
>>> i have got text fields where students are able to fill in their
>>> names.  so if a name uses characters like ä,ö,ü
>>> etc. these  names are  transformed inot funny characters like e.g.
>>> Bößem  into Bößem .
>>>
>>> i tried t

Re: Zip File Generator

[Antonio Gallardo]

>
> Le Vendredi, 7 mars 2003, à 14:05 Europe/Zurich, Sylvain Wallez a écrit
> :
>
>> ...The JDK natively suppors the "jar:" protocol with URLs of the form
>> "jar:!/"(see [1]) and as such is available in Cocoon.
>
> Wow, I didn't know that this was a standard JDK feature, thanks for
> pointing it out!
> Now I understand why I couldn't find the implementation of the jar:
> stuff in in Cocoon ;-)
lol :-D
>
> -Bertrand
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Re: AW: AW: encoding and xsp

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi:

Take it easy! This is a standard problem when you start to using Cocoon. :-D

What I am trying to said is that only putting the header is not enough.
Just for reference. I use spanish and I had the same problem as you we I
started with Cocoon.

I dont use Windows anymore. But I can recommend you jEdit.
(http://www.jEdit.org) to write XML stuff.

In jEdit you have "buffer options" that allow you to define the character
encoding for your saved files. That means How the file will be encoded
BEFORE is saved into the hard disk. Of course the headers are importants
too.

Please feel free to ask if you have more questions. ;-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo


> I am not shure what you mean, but i added to the header of all xsp and
> xsl document the same encoding sceme!
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Antonio Gallardo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 14:27
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: AW: encoding and xsp
>
>
> Hi!
>
> Please note that you must be sure that you are using the correct
> encoding to save your files.
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
>
>
>
>> hi,
>>
>> thanks for your hints. i tried it, but it still does not work. i was
>> not sure, if you mean to specifiy it within the , or
>>  i did it in both. i also specified it within in the
>> jdbc connection. but no success.
>>
>> Is it necessary to specify main sitemap, or is it also possible to put
>>  it into the sub-sitemap?
>>
>> here is how i added it:
>>
>>  
>>   
>>ISO-8859-1
>>   
>>  i did the same for the serializer and
>> transformer.
>>
>> and ...
>>
>>
>> 
>>  ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> 
>>  ISO-8859-1
>> 
>> 
>>  ISO-8859-1
>> 
>>
>>
>> if i read through the outputtet html, there is still a tag like:
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: Andres, Judith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 09:42
>> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Betreff: AW: encoding and xsp
>>
>>
>> Try specifying an encoding inside the serializer declaration in your
>> sitemap:
>>
>>  
>> ISO-8859-1
>>   
>>
>> HTH Judith
>>
>>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: boessem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 09:39
>> An: Cocoon-Users
>> Betreff: encoding and xsp
>>
>>
>> hi,
>>
>> i do not understand why the encoding works different for words i use
>> wihtin the xsp document and words i get via the url.
>>
>> an example:
>>
>> I have got a form, where students should be able to apply for a
>> specific exame. wihtin this form (a xsp document) there are some
>> explainations of how to use the form and what to fill in. characters
>> within these sentences  like ä,ö,ü etc. are getting
>> transformed  into html perfectly. (so no trouble).
>>
>> but:
>>
>> i have got text fields where students are able to fill in their names.
>>  so if a name uses characters like ä,ö,ü etc. these names are
>>  transformed inot funny characters like e.g. Bößem into
>> Bößem .
>>
>> i tried to solve this problem, by adding to the header of the xsp and
>> xsl document the encoding sceme, like > encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>, but still the same problem.
>>
>> does anyone know how to solve this problem.
>>
>> thanks and regards
>
>
>
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Re: AW: encoding and xsp

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi!

Please note that you must be sure that you are using the correct encoding
to save your files.

Antonio Gallardo.



> hi,
>
> thanks for your hints. i tried it, but it still does not work. i was not
> sure, if you mean to specifiy it within the , or
>  i did it in both. i also specified it within in the jdbc
> connection. but no success.
>
> Is it necessary to specify main sitemap, or is it also possible to put
> it into the sub-sitemap?
>
> here is how i added it:
>
>  
>   
>ISO-8859-1
>   
>  i did the same for the serializer and
> transformer.
>
> and ...
>
>
> 
>  ISO-8859-1
> 
> 
>  ISO-8859-1
> 
> 
>  ISO-8859-1
> 
>
>
> if i read through the outputtet html, there is still a tag like:
>
> 
>
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: Andres, Judith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 09:42
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: AW: encoding and xsp
>
>
> Try specifying an encoding inside the serializer declaration in your
> sitemap:
>
>  
> ISO-8859-1
>   
>
> HTH Judith
>
>
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: boessem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Gesendet: Freitag, 7. März 2003 09:39
> An: Cocoon-Users
> Betreff: encoding and xsp
>
>
> hi,
>
> i do not understand why the encoding works different for words i use
> wihtin the xsp document and words i get via the url.
>
> an example:
>
> I have got a form, where students should be able to apply for a specific
> exame. wihtin this form (a xsp document) there are some explainations of
> how to use the form and what to fill in. characters within these
> sentences  like ä,ö,ü etc. are getting transformed into html
> perfectly. (so no trouble).
>
> but:
>
> i have got text fields where students are able to fill in their names.
> so if a name uses characters like ä,ö,ü etc. these names are
> transformed inot funny characters like e.g. Bößem into Bößem .
>
> i tried to solve this problem, by adding to the header of the xsp and
> xsl document the encoding sceme, like  encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>, but still the same problem.
>
> does anyone know how to solve this problem.
>
> thanks and regards




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Re: how to generate random numbers or strings?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hello!

I meet this problem some months ago. I made a solution using XSP. I think
you can easily enhance this piece of code:


String key = ;
while (key.equals("")) {
Random aleatorio = new Random();
int new_key = aleatorio.nextInt(Integer.MAX_VALUE) + 1;
llave = String.valueOf(new_key);
/* Check into database if the key exist into the table */


SELECT table_id FROM table WHERE 
table_id=new_key



key = "";



}

key

best regards,

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The new MS Office 2003

[Ing. Antonio Gallardo]

Sorry, for the SPAM ;-)

But i post this link, because in the first screenshots are some labels
related to XML/XSL stuff :)

http://www.activewin.com/screenshots/office2k3b2/

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Re: How can I handle session expiration event

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>
> Is there a way to handle session expiration events with cocoon ?
>
> I would like to launch some cleaning job when a session expires, is it
> possible ?
>
I think no. :-(

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Re: mod-db postgresql and autoincrement

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi Amelie:

I am glad you got this running. I had the same problems too.

> I think the name of the table "user" should be changed in the mod-db
> example of cocoon because it is a problem for those who want to run it
> with postgresql. And using a trick like "user" to create the table is
> not totally clear.

I totally agree with you. I suggested this too. Some months ago. But there
is still the same code. I think this is not a priority right now...

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[ANN] Hibernator - Eclipse Plugin

[Antonio Gallardo]

Since many people is trying to push the combination of XMLForms with
Hibernate. I think this link can be of special interest :-)

http://sourceforge.net/projects/hibernator/

I hope it will be useful.

Best Regards,

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Re: mod-db postgresql and autoincrement

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi Amelie:

Sorry for the delay. I was not clear what was you problem :-(

1-The pointed by Christian is correct, in cocoon.xconf check you have:



  


2-IN order to make use of this module, you must to create on the database
SEQUENCES like this

-- Autonumerico de usuarios
CREATE SEQUENCE usuarios_usr_id_seq
  start 1 increment 1 maxvalue 2147483647 minvalue 1 cache 1;

Please check that the name of the SEQUENCE must be:

tableName_fielName_seq

To follow the example. The table usuarios is create by the following SQL
code:

*
CREATE TABLE Usuarios
  (
usr_id   int4unique not null default
nextval('usuarios_usr_id_seq'),
loc_id   int4not null,
usr_nombre   varchar(20) unique not null,
usr_nombre_completo varchar(50),
usr_password varchar(20),
usr_habilitado int4not null default 1,

primary key(usr_id),

foreign key(loc_id) references Localidades(loc_id) on update CASCADE,

CHECK(usr_habilitado BETWEEN 0 AND 1)
  );

CREATE INDEX UsuariosNDX1 ON Usuarios(loc_id);

***

I hope it will help you. :-D

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



Amélie Cordier dijo:
> Hello everybody
>
> I'm trying to run mod-db example (the one with users and groups) using
> PostgreSQL.
>
> Currently, everything work perfectly except the autoincrement attribute.
>
> The error I have is this one :
>
>  ---
> |org.apache.cocoon.components.modules.output.OutputModule:  ="ERROR:
> parser: parse error at or near "call" "
>  ---
>
> I read in the mailing list archive a lot of interesting things but I had
> not found any clue to solve my problem.
>
> Is there anybody who can help me?
>
> Regards,
>
> Amélie Cordier
>
>
> --
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>
> OS: Debian 3.0
> Tomcat 4.1.10
> Cocoon 2.1-dev (latest CVS HEAD version)
> JDK 1.4
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Re: get sunrise session values from an xsp page

[Antonio Gallardo]

Check this:

http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=13070

Antonio Gallardo

Lionel Crine dijo:
> How can I get sunrise session values in an xsp page.
>
> I'm trying this ?
>
> My login page :
>
> 
>
> 
> 
>
>  login?resource=ixia_demo
>  
>  description="Password"/>
>
> 
> 
>
>
> 
>
> My xsp page :
>
> 
> http://apache.org/xsp";
> xmlns:xsp-request="http://apache.org/xsp/request/2.0";
> xmlns:sunshine="http://cocoon.apache.org/sunshine/1.0";>
>
>
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> xsl document :
>
> 
> 
> 
>
>
> The xsp page does not understand thepath="/parameter/name"/>
>
> I'm kind of lost.
>
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Re: R: MySQL date conversion with modular database action

[Antonio Gallardo]

Christian Haul dijo:
> On 17.Feb.2003 -- 03:31 PM, Marco Taiuti wrote:
>> I have a DatabaseAction with the followed descriptor
>>
>> 
>> 
>>  line_db
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>  
>>   
>>  
>>  
>> 
>>
>> How i can use the DateMetaInputModule or DateInputModule to format
>> date "datpub" to 'dd/MM/'?
>> Thanks,
>
> Short answer: Since you apparently do not use the "modular" database
> actions, you cannot.
>
> Long answer: There are two sets of database actions: one set in
> org.apache.cocoon.acting and another one in
> org.apache.cocoon.acting.modular They are similar to a great deal but
> differ in details. Configuration files from the "original" actions can
> mostly be used with the "modular" ones.
>
> Formating the date is an output issue, which is not handled by the
> actions. At least in case of the modular actions, they return a java
> date object, not a string. Parsing input data is an issue. Of my head I
> believe both Date*Module take a format parameter that is expected to
> conform to the SimpleDateFormat specs. See javadocs for details.

More info at: http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=DatabaseActions

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[ANN] kxmleditor for KDE

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi Cocooners!

I found this XML editor for KDE-Linux and I wanted to share it with you. :-D

http://kxmleditor.sourceforge.net/

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Re: Carriage returns in HTML serialization

[Antonio Gallardo]

Mark H dijo:
> I'm having problems with HTML serialization: it's putting tags on a new
> line which is making a DIV section higher than it should be i.e.

This is a browser issue, not a Cocoon issue. I recently buyed a nice book
of HTML because I getted this kind if "UFO" errors. ;-)

Source:HTML for the World Wide Web with XHTML and CSS: Visual QuickStart
Guide, Fifth Edition from Elizabeth Castro.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0321130073/

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

>
> ...
>
> turns into:
>
> 
> 
> ...
> 
> 
>
> Is there anyway to control the HTML output?
>
> BTW I'm very impressed with Cocoon. XML really is the way to go with
> content heavy websites.
>
> Mark




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Re: DatabaseAddAction and unique or primary keys

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi,

Today morning I told you about the MODULAR Database Actions, also I
pointed you to:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ModularDatabaseActions

There you can find ALL the info about how to do what you mean. Also I can
work with sequence (you told before you use PostgreSQL 7.2).

Sheraz Sharif dijo:
> Hello all,
>
> I have been working on a website for a while.  Here is my problem - I
> can easily verify user input through forms and return any error messages
> through the xsp-formval tags.  After validation, the input is passed to
> the database.  However, I get an SQL exception :
>
> ProcessingException: Could not add record: java.sql.SQLException: ERROR:
> Cannot insert a duplicate key into unique index category_name_key
>
> This is happening because I am attempting to insert a value into a key
> column where that value already exists.  I am looking for a solution
> where cocoon will connect to the database and attempt to retreive the
> key value before the insert.  If it does not exist, it will insert it,
> otherwise it will fail and I can notify the user of the error.

I think you can do a select before and check for the result of the select.
Sorry, I use XSP, but maybe the example will work:


 
SELECT the_key
FROM the_table
WHERE the_key=
  
  


  
INSERT INTO the_table(the_key, the_data1, the_data2) ..
  
  

  
  

  


Best Regards,

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[ANN] - Tomcat /status information disclosure

[Antonio Gallardo]

Title: Tomcat /status information disclosure
 ID: 11218
 Category: Misc.
 URL: http://www.securityspace.com/smysecure/catid.html?id=11218
 Summary: Makes a request like http://www.example.com/server-status



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RE: DatabaseAddAction and unique or primary keys

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi!

The problem is solved using Modular Database Actions. More info at:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=ModularDatabaseActions

Antonio Gallardo

Sheraz Sharif dijo:
> I am using postgresql 7.2..
>
> I am not sure what you mean.  Are you talking about making the database
> run a trigger before the insert happens?  If so, I do not think that
> will solve my problem.  I want cocoon to realize that there already
> exists that specific value in the table, and notify the user to try
> again. I think what I am trying to say is this.
>
> 1. User sends form to cocoon.
> 2. Cocoon processes form values.
> 3. Form values are ok, check the database to make sure primary keys and
> unique keys do not already exist
> 4. on success, insert values into database
> 5. on failure, return failure
>
> I am thinking that I need make some additions to the DatabaseAddAction
> class to make this happen.
>
> Sheraz
>
> On Fri, 2003-02-07 at 05:43, Kazmir, Jaroslav wrote:
>> Which type of database you use? Isn't it easily to use before insert
>> trigger?
>>
>> JayKay
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Sheraz Sharif [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Freitag, 07. Februar 2003 12:19
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: DatabaseAddAction and unique or primary keys
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Sorry if this gets double-posted...
>>
>> I have been working on a website for a while.  Here is my problem - I
>> can easily verify user input through forms and return any error
>> messages through the xsp-formval tags.  After validation, the input is
>> passed to the database.  However, I get an SQL exception :
>>
>> ProcessingException: Could not add record: java.sql.SQLException:
>> ERROR: Cannot insert a duplicate key into unique index
>> category_name_key
>>
>> This is happening because I am attempting to insert a value into a key
>> column where that value already exists.  I am looking for a solution
>> where cocoon will connect to the database and attempt to retreive the
>> key value before the insert.  If it does not exist, it will insert it,
>> otherwise it will fail and I can notify the user of the error.  Have I
>> been verbose enough?  If no solution exists, I am thinking I can
>> either extend or rewrite the DatabaseAddAction class to do this.  Or
>> should I abandon logicsheets all together and move to xforms?  Thanks.
>>
>
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Re: cocoon & struts together

[Antonio Gallardo]

Thanks for the answer. Good speach. I saw you now as a Cocoon fan! :-)
You finally saw the light at the end of the pipeline. ;-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



Robert Simmons dijo:
> Actually I'm an EJB specialist and I don't generally work on projects
> conducive to web interfaces. The complexity level of the stuff I do is
> too high. (Pharmaceutical industry and genetic research). My customers
> generally require a higher range of functionality than a web interface
> can provide.
>
> That being said, I do, however, do some web work which is why I took up
> the idea of cocoon. I use the same technique that I use for GUI
> programming. Basically a command centric architecture. I hate to say
> "struts is for amateurs" but it kind of is. It has low complexity and
> thus low
> functionality. It also has high cost in terms of content delivery and
> maintenance costs. I personally chose to avoid all that and let Java
> objects do all the work and let the framework just concentrate on
> presentation. Enter cocoon.
>
> My programs consist of allot of specially designed generators that
> generate pure data. Then I use XSLT to translate that into the
> appropriate media. I also use XSLT to output the forms though I am
> experimenting with reflexive techniques that I have used in GUI
> applications to make generation of forms be based on reflexive command
> analysis.
>
> Frameworks like struts mix functionality with presentation, which IMHO
> is a very bad thing. Its a high maintenance cost solution with a low
> development cost. That is the wrong way around. To be professional you
> want high development cost and low maintenance cost. This causes your
> feature turn around, post release, to be much faster. Since you are able
> to react quickly to the demands of your users, your company or customers
> win. The guy that slapped it together with low development costs may
> make some sales coming out the door, but will bleed customers as they
> seek more stable solutions with faster turn-around time for new features
> and fault correction.
>
> I guess that is a long way of saying, "put all your work into the back
> end." Cocoon is perfect for this because you can develop custom
> generators to deliver data and let a web designer with a couple weeks of
> training worry about the XSLT translation. In the meantime your valuable
> programmer resources are implementing new features and stabilizing the
> product.
>
> Well that's my opinion on the matter.
>
> -- Robert
>
>
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> Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 11:48 PM
> Subject: Re: cocoon & struts together
>
>
>> Robert Simmons dijo:
>> > I dont think that using struts would be useful within an efficient
>> cocoon site. Cocoon takes another approach to web development that
>> is, in my opinion, superior to the jsp/struts approach.
>>
>> Thanks for the comment. I was trying to start learning about this
>> stuff.
>>
>> As a bean specialist (a book writer) what tools you recommend to
>> manage all the beans stuff (creation, changes, etc.)
>>
>> Thanks for the comments.
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
>>
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Re: cocoon & struts together

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Robert Simmons dijo:
> I dont think that using struts would be useful within an efficient
> cocoon site. Cocoon takes another approach to web development that is,
> in my opinion, superior to the jsp/struts approach.

Thanks for the comment. I was trying to start learning about this stuff.

As a bean specialist (a book writer) what tools you recommend to manage
all the beans stuff (creation, changes, etc.)

Thanks for the comments.

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Re: Building Cocoon 2.1-dev

[Antonio Gallardo]

Please downloaded the lastest version. Today morning Haul resolve the
problem with the sitemap.

Antonio Gallardo.

I am already running the lastest CVS and build fine.

Mark Eggers dijo:
> I just built CVS HEAD yesterday afternoon.  There are
> some problems with sitemap validation, so you will
> have to turn that off (false) in
> properties.xml.
>
> One of the things I have to remember is to clear my
> custom CLASSPATH variable before I start the build
> process.
>
> To build, I do the following:
>
> set CLASSPATH=
>
> build -Dinclude.webapp.libs=yes
> -Dinclude.scratchpad.libs=yes
> -Dinstall.war=%TOMCAT_HOME%\webapps webapp
>
> I've also picked up the extra jars for mail, jta,
> xindice, and logging to enable those optional
> components.  One of these days I'll pick up the php
> servlet jar and see if I can't get that to compile as
> well.
>
> HTH
>
> /mde/
> just my two cents . . . .
>
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Re: IRC, SILC

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Heiko Milke dijo:
> Hey folks,
>
> is there any channel on IRCNet or SILCNET for cocoon?

Good question. ;-)

Antonio
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Re: Battling with null pointer exception

[Antonio Gallardo]

Derek Hohls dijo:
> Antonio
>
> Not sure we have more memory on the server, but I can try...
>
> The current  CATALINA_OPTS looks like:
>
 CATALINA_OPTS='-Xbootclasspath/a:/usr/local/pja/lib/pja.jar
> -Dawt.toolkit=com.eteks.awt.PJAToolkit
> -Djava2d.font.usePlatformFont=false
> -Djava.awt.graphicsenv=com.eteks.java2d.PJAGraphicsEnvironment
> -Djava.awt.fonts=/usr/java/jre/lib/fonts
> -Duser.home=/usr/local/pja -cp /usr/java/jre/lib/ext/pjatools.jar'
>
> Can I just add your parameter to the front or end of these commands?

Yes!

CATALINA_OPTS='-Xmx256m -Xbootclasspath/a:/usr/local/pja/lib/pja.jar
 -Dawt.toolkit=com.eteks.awt.PJAToolkit
 -Djava2d.font.usePlatformFont=false
 -Djava.awt.graphicsenv=com.eteks.java2d.PJAGraphicsEnvironment
 -Djava.awt.fonts=/usr/java/jre/lib/fonts
 -Duser.home=/usr/local/pja -cp /usr/java/jre/lib/ext/pjatools.jar'

Please check that you have memory enough emory. Cocoon is a memory eater.
lol :-D But be carefully to dont give it more memory as you have, because
you can start swaping on the server. If you start swapping => You will see
too slow responses time.

By the way currently memory is very cheap. If you can try to config your
sever with 512MB or more. I had the same problem:

A-First we used in production a old machine Pentium III 500MHz. with 128
MB. We always get the Out of memory.
B-Then we upgraded to 384 MB and tweaking the server to use 256MB as I
recommended you. That was a lot of improvement, but sometimes slow. I
think this server can be fineright now with all the performance check and
rewriting we did on the XSP code.
C-Now we are using a PIV 1.8GHz, 512MB and it is very fast and all is OK.
Always we setted for him 256MB for Cocoon. We done some test. If you are
trying to show a table with aprox 10,000 rows. It takes 1 minut.

Also be aware that you must tweak the parameters of you database to get
the best time response.

We are using PostgreSQL 7.2 (on Red Hat Linux 8.0). After tweaking some
params, then the responses does not take more than some milisecs. That
means that all the 1 minut of the HTML table with 10,000 is expended in
XSL transformations.

I will also add that XSL is fine, but try to make the stylesheets the most
simple as you can.

For example: Before we used XSL to build dates from the database format
TIMESTAMP to a more human format: "25/12/2003 8:15". It was taking too
much time.

Then we rewrite the query to let the database to give us the format as we
want.It was a really improvement. Why? simple: The Database Manager code
is compiled to machine code. There is no virtual machine between. Then it
runs faster.

By the way, I saw that this kind of tricks are hidden and almost no where
you can find about it. I spend more than 15 days investigating about
that until I found some trick in a Tomcat book. I own the 3 already
books about Cocoon. The best book that cover the tweaking for production
environment is the book from Lajos and Jeremy. It helps me to understand
all this stuff.

If all this helps, please write a page on wiki about this. ;-)

I hope it will help you.

Best Regards,

Antonio.


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> Thanks
> Derek
>
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> Derek Hohls dijo:
>> I have an XSP page, containing ESQL; it works fine on my
>> test machine which has a relatively small subset of data,
>> but gives errors on the production machine with the full
>> database.
>
> OK. I suppose:
>   1-You have 5,000+ rows in your current DB.
>   2-The code in the XSP page works fine in your develpment machine.
>
> Solution:
>   1-Give more memory to Tomcat and Cocoon.
>
> Detail:
>
>   Suppose you can give 256 MB to Cocoon. then:
>
> 1-For Tomcat, in TOMCAT_ROOT/bin/catalina.sh:
>
>  CATALINA_OPTS='-Xmx256m'
>
>Also you need to tell Cocoon about that. In cocoon.xconf,
> search
> for store-janitor:
>
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>   
>
> More recommendations:
>   1- Upgrade to Tomcat 4.1.18
>
> Finally Restart Tomcat! I hope it will help.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
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Re: Battling with null pointer exception

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Derek Hohls dijo:
> I have an XSP page, containing ESQL; it works fine on my
> test machine which has a relatively small subset of data,
> but gives errors on the production machine with the full
> database.

OK. I suppose:
  1-You have 5,000+ rows in your current DB.
  2-The code in the XSP page works fine in your develpment machine.

Solution:
  1-Give more memory to Tomcat and Cocoon.

Detail:

  Suppose you can give 256 MB to Cocoon. then:

1-For Tomcat, in TOMCAT_ROOT/bin/catalina.sh:

 CATALINA_OPTS='-Xmx256m'

   Also you need to tell Cocoon about that. In cocoon.xconf, search
for store-janitor:


 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  

More recommendations:
  1- Upgrade to Tomcat 4.1.18

Finally Restart Tomcat! I hope it will help.

Best Regards,

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Re: Link Livesites: CBIM (Cocoon 2.1-dev)

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Congratulations Ugo!

First time it takes almost 16 secs. (DNS resolving, etc.)
Second time: 1.9 secs. (I think here was just cache issue.)
Third time: Pressing reload button - 4.95 secs.

I think this are nice times.

I am using Mozilla in Red Hat Linux 8.0.
Location: Managua, Nicaragua, Central America.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

Ugo Cei dijo:
> Our new corporate website http://www.cbim.it/ is running on Cocoon
> 2.1-dev since Feb 1st 2003.
>
> It's only in Italian at the moment, but we plan do deliver an English
> version shortly.
>
> Many thanks to all the Cocoon developers who made this possible.
>
>   Ugo
>
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Re: [POLL] JDK 1.2 Support

[Antonio Gallardo]

1.4.1_01 on Linux

Antonio Gallardo

Litrik De Roy dijo:
> 1.3
>
> Litrik De Roy
> www.litrik.com
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Vadim Gritsenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Cocoon Users" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Saturday, February 01, 2003 8:06 PM
> Subject: [POLL] JDK 1.2 Support
>
>
>> Hi all:
>>
>> To better understand how you are using Cocoon product and serve your
>> needs better ;-)
>> Cocoon developers would like to know how many of our currect users are
>>  deploying Cocoon on JDK 1.2 and why they did not switch to JDK1.3 (or
>>  better).
>>
>> This information will help Cocoon developers community to decide on
>> wether we should switch to JDK1.3 or continue JDK1.2 support for some
>> more time. Thanks for the feedback :)
>>
>> Vadim
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Re: Sitemap.xmap giving ugly errors

[Antonio Gallardo]

Two tips:

move the generators to the first place of the . I dont
know what version you are using, but this was a bug sometime ago.

Also please define a defaul serializer.

Maybe it can helps,

please tell us more info about your problem.

Antonio Gallardo.

Jason Bruce dijo:
> I have atached what I beleive to be a extremly simple sitemap.xmap.  But
> when I try to use it I get an error.
>
> description org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: Language Exception:
> org.apache.cocoon.components.language.LanguageException: Error compiling
> sitemap_xmap: Line 324, column 54: '}' expected Line 63, column 11:
> class org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap should be declared abstract; it
> does not define method
> process(org.apache.cocoon.environment.Environment,
> org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.StreamPipeline,
> org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.EventPipeline) in class
> org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.AbstractSitemap Line 0, column 0: 2 errors
>
> Anyone have any ideas?  If you want to see the error check out
> http://216.87.136.82:8080/cocoon2/20030130.html




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[XML EDITOR] Netbeans

[Antonio Gallardo]

Is anyone here using netbeans? more info at: http://www.netbeans.org

It looks like netbeans has a built-in powerfull XML editor.

Can someone share his own experience with this?

Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



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Re: [OFF TOPIC] Are there any spanish cocoon user|developer?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Thorsten Scherler dijo:
> Hello everyone,
> I would like to know:
> Are there users|developers in Spain which are using|developing cocoon?
> ...I thought this would be the best place to ask. ;-)
>
> King regards
> Thorsten

Hi, I am not in Spain, but Spanish is my first language. ;-)

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Re: Cocoon use worldwide

[Antonio Gallardo]

 the best of
the best. I just pointed that because for this movement Cocoon is not part
of the most important things about the movement. They are most concerned
about the use of Linux as platform in goverments.

I thinked about this, then Java lose power. Why? Simple: "I dont need a
multi OS language or a slow Virtual Machine. I will use only one
plataform: Linux."

But, from my point of view: I choosed Java mainly to let people choose
between Linux and Windows. I always try to setup Linux servers, but if the
people is hardcoded about MS, then I can install the same application on
Windows too. I think this part of the power that Cocoon give us. As
consultor I recommend my clients, but always the final word is from him.

> * Open Source is becoming a theme for large corporations in Europe. When
> we started our humble open source group 2 1/2 years ago - no-one was
> interested. Now the story is very different.

I think this is worldwide too. Just see the Linuxworld expo in NY.

By the way, writting this mail I was starting think about the pure concept
of the Apache Licence, maybe there is where we need to find the answer.
Some people dont like it.

I think the Apache model is somewhere between propietary and truly
OpenSource Licences.

And maybe the people leading the Open Sources movements are more
fundamentalist: "They dont like things 'between', they are truly Open
Source".

I hope this will be usefull too. ;-)

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Re: XML - XSL Editors?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Will you be checking jedit.org? Please almost include it as a "usefull
link". I saw many books about Java and XML and all they use windows. And
they totally ignore some of the wonderfull applications that people can
use for free.

I hope you will speak good about Cocoon and is fabulous community with
7-24 support "on-line". in your book. ;-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

Robert Simmons dijo:
> Hmm, well my book has very little to do with cocoon. Its an advanced
> java book. id be suprised if I mentioned more than a couple pages on
> cocoon. Basically the book will talk about various java enterprise
> programing and I will be using cocoon for the interface to the remote
> ejbs.

>
> -- Robert
>
> - Original Message -
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> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 2:24 AM
> Subject: Re: XML - XSL Editors?
>
>
>> Hey?!
>>
>> Maybe and this article can be usefull for you and your work on the
>> book:
>>
>>
> http://community.jedit.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=news&file=article&sid=
> 202
>>
>> By the way, what is the name of your future book?
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo.
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo dijo:
>> > Robert Simmons dijo:
>> >> What are the best XML and XSLT editors on the market. I'm looking
>> for something that is easy to use and offers the chance to edit XSL
>> in a WYSIWYG style. I tried XML Spy but it is not so easy to use. I
>> couldn't even figure out how to get an XSL preview to work
>> properly. It wanted me to create an sps file in order to show the
>> transformation but in their sps editor I couldn't even tell it to
>> use a file that I had already written. Way weird. I also tried
>> eXcelon with is much easier to use. I want to know what other
>> options are out there.
>> >
>> > I dont know if this is the best. But I use jEdit to write Cocoon
>> projects. It has a plug-in for XML, XSL highlighting and another
>> plug-in for XSLT tranformation that make it very easy to check what
>> your XSLT stylesheet do. Best of all is OpenSource and because it is
>> coded in Java runs in any platform. Also for file Save you can
>> configure the diferents char formats:
>> >
>> > ISO-8859-1, UTF-8 and more.
>> >
>> > There is also a plug-in to manage all your project.
>> >
>> > more info:
>> >
>> > http://www.jedit.org/
>> >
>> >
>> > Antonio Gallardo
>> >
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Re: XML - XSL Editors?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hey?!

Maybe and this article can be usefull for you and your work on the book:

http://community.jedit.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=news&file=article&sid=202

By the way, what is the name of your future book?

Antonio Gallardo.

Antonio Gallardo dijo:
> Robert Simmons dijo:
>> What are the best XML and XSLT editors on the market. I'm looking for
>> something that is easy to use and offers the chance to edit XSL in a
>> WYSIWYG style. I tried XML Spy but it is not so easy to use. I
>> couldn't even figure out how to get an XSL preview to work properly.
>> It wanted me to create an sps file in order to show the transformation
>> but in their sps editor I couldn't even tell it to use a file that I
>> had already written. Way weird. I also tried eXcelon with is much
>> easier to use. I want to know what other options are out there.
>
> I dont know if this is the best. But I use jEdit to write Cocoon
> projects. It has a plug-in for XML, XSL highlighting and another plug-in
> for XSLT tranformation that make it very easy to check what your XSLT
> stylesheet do. Best of all is OpenSource and because it is coded in Java
> runs in any platform. Also for file Save you can configure the diferents
> char formats:
>
> ISO-8859-1, UTF-8 and more.
>
> There is also a plug-in to manage all your project.
>
> more info:
>
> http://www.jedit.org/
>
>
> Antonio Gallardo
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Re: XML - XSL Editors?

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Robert Simmons dijo:
> What are the best XML and XSLT editors on the market. I'm looking for
> something that is easy to use and offers the chance to edit XSL in a
> WYSIWYG style. I tried XML Spy but it is not so easy to use. I couldn't
> even figure out how to get an XSL preview to work properly. It wanted me
> to create an sps file in order to show the transformation but in their
> sps editor I couldn't even tell it to use a file that I had already
> written. Way weird. I also tried eXcelon with is much easier to use. I
> want to know what other options are out there.

I dont know if this is the best. But I use jEdit to write Cocoon projects.
It has a plug-in for XML, XSL highlighting and another plug-in for XSLT
tranformation that make it very easy to check what your XSLT stylesheet
do. Best of all is OpenSource and because it is coded in Java runs in any
platform. Also for file Save you can configure the diferents char formats:

ISO-8859-1, UTF-8 and more.

There is also a plug-in to manage all your project.

more info:

http://www.jedit.org/


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Thanks for the book!

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi Lajos!

I just write you because I got your book on Jan, 20th and is the best of
the three about Cocoon 2. Thanks again to you and Jeremy. You are really
good writers!

I promise to post a review on amazon.com since there still are no one review.

Best Regards,

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Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

[Antonio Gallardo]

enerator, tranformers, serialization. I started to know about it
here. The pipeline concept is the base of all. No Avalon or similars.

When the new users go to .NET and put up hello-world in 20
> minutes, cocoon wont have a chance. So cocoon has really two options in
> my newbie opinion. 1) Start putting in that layer that attracts new
> users.

Maybe yes, maybe not. Who knows? Well, almost every thing in the world
have a cost and as the people are discovering Linux and it good tools they
are tempted to use it. Just see the lastest reports about

2) Die.

Hey?! It is not about money. This is the point that MS people is not
understanding here. This is not the case of Novell: "Stop the selling and
you win". Cocoon as Linux and many other opensources projects started
without millons on bags.

> As for me personally, I'm already far behind schedule now. 2 days of
> dealing with this thing and getting nowhere. Ill give it a couple more
> hours of consideration and if I still cant get a hello-world up without
> knowing a thing about the internal architecture,

> I will move on and implement it all in JSP.

I will recomend you dont do it. Maybe you will save time now and you will
waste it when the changes will come. I really recomend you take a little
more patience and try it out. It is a worth. Currently my last client
asked me some improvements on the plataform and to be serious I am happy
because I know this is very easy now thanks to Cocoon.

When I started researching about a plataform I stoped at JSP too. But the
mess of code and tags take me away. This frustate every body when the
inevitable changes come.

> Scoff all you want. But a JSP hello-world page I was able to get up
> and working in 15 minutes.

Clear, because this is a continuity technology of the same approach. I
think in Cocoon you will start thinking in another way.

At the end, I just want to say that Cocoon is not my baby. I love it
because open a nice door in the current development effort. A
revolutionary effort.

I am not angry after all you are told about this. I dont have a clue why
can I be? ;-)

Every ones have the right to write his opinions. And I thank you because
you let me explain some of the Cocoon points here.

Best Regards,

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Re: Cocoon is complex, HOLD ON, WHY IS THIS BOILING UP ?

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SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous dijo:
> And especially the newbies can give so valuable insight, even if they
seem to be ignorant (they aren't ignorant at all. They are new to this
!!!)

Yes I know this point, but for this reason you cannot just come here and
after 12 hours, start attacking something you dont know. This is the worng
way. In place you can ask in another way.

Also, everyone of us had the same problem and feel when we started at
Cocoon. This is crazy, my first question was: "When can I start?".

But this is not a good approach sign-in on the mail list and start
commenting about this. If you wish a well documented framework wait for
the release of MS .NET of mid 2005 and maybe at that time you will have
something that will looks that the current version of Cocoon. Of course
Cocoon in that time will be light-years ahead! I am not joking. MS already
has started a few months ago a similar project in the .NET arena.

In the OpenSources the things goes a diferent way. This is not a company
where are people getting money to support you. Then the less you can do is
thanks people that use his time to help you. How you will fell if somebody
stop you at the street and start attacking you just because you dont know
where is the street called "X"? This is ridiculous, right? I think some
people here had the same feel.

Nobody is forced to convince you stay and for tis reason I better stay
away of this class of thread. If he does not want to get this nice stuff.
His problem, not mine. ;-) But I bet he will come back. I saw it many
times in the timeline.

At the end,

I remember the times when some people was attacking GUI, just because
there does not understand it. It was at my students days. Some
collegues told things like:

"Windows 3.1 requiere too many recurses and is so slow. This will never be
a good stuff" At that time (1992) a 286 with 1 MB and HD 40 MB was a super
computer for a student like us. i386 was the Opteron of these days (the
new 32-bits technology - wow!, like now is the transition to the new
64-bits technology - wow again! :-).

I remember one teacher that told:

"You think you are the 'great boys' just because you can open 30 windows
in your PC. I dont want to waste my eyes burning it with 640*468 pixel
lightning at my eyes!"

Behind his back we joking if he has a room at his house with his own
saloon computer all just for him!". Because for him our computers was toys
and nothing more.

Maybe you will be loling about this comments. But this was what we meet at
the University at my times. People that all the time used text terminal
and with the GUI revolution just starting they does not understand what
happens around and just attacking GUI.

Another example of this, the long discusion about if Java will survive or
not? We have C and C++!

Well, we are know at the doors of the Web revolution called XML. Please
open your eyes!

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

>
> Maybe we should calm down a bit and take this thread really
> serious. It contains much of material to think about.
> And in many senses the criticism here can't be discussed
> away.

I never got angry. I agree.

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Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

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Robert Simmons dijo:
>No professional dev wants, or has the time, to blow 2 to
> three weeks just to get separation of logic and presentation.

How you think a Professional developer do that? I ended my Master Degree
in Computer Science in 1995 just before Java hits the streets and Windows
95 was just at beta release? How do you think I am here now?

> Too high of a price for too little gain.

Please if you said that phrase you dont really understand what is in the
game. I recommend you to check how this little grain affect totally the
Web machinery at all. I recommend you to read the second chapter of the
Carsten Matthew book:  XML: Building XML Applications. You can find it at
amazon.com

> Powerful? I believe you. I believe its powerful. Scalable? I don't know.

Scalable? Please, just check JBoss.org and answer yourself the question.

> The Wiki page runs very slow for me and a tutorial linked to me from the
> IBM site (which was done in cocoon) was taking 10 to 15 seconds per page
> to render.

This is an issue for your computer and/or Internet connection. I live in
Managua, Nicaragua. Maybe it is so far that you dont know where is it. But
the wiki takes me less that 3 secs. Of course I use Red Hat Linux 8.0 and
Mozilla that is faster than MS IE. Sometimes I go down and use a Windows
machine, but I always use Mozilla, because it is faster.

Check http://www.mozilla.org


> Put that in production and your company can kiss sales
> goodbye. Internet users are impatient and any guy with a DSL isn't going
> to wait 15 seconds for your page.

This is a developers issue, not a Cocoon issue. There are many books
related about web design. How to improve performance using CSS, etc. Take
a look at that technology and tell me how slow it is.

> User friendly? You've got to be joking.

What? Cocoon? Well, here I think you must first understand the philosophy
behind Cocoon and after that we can talk about that.

Windows makes us too lazy, we want to do all just clicking a mouse.

> No, I don't want to take up any more time from folks. I just simply
> don't have the time to mess with it. Reading config files and figuring
> out how the hell to build a new application just isn't what I want to do
> a very trivial part of my project with.

I will see you back again. Maybe the next year, how knows, but if you will
stay at the development arena, you soon or late will be faced again with
this technology. Please, Take a note of that.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.



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Re: Cocoon is complex, but worth it! Some Answers to your dilemma

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You really does dont want the help people give you:

Please just click here:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Tutorials

and you will be ready after 3 hours. Please read just the 1st tutorial
from IBM developerworks.

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Re: A documents repository......

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Julian, thanks for the tip. :-D

Antonio Gallardo

Julian Klein dijo:
> Antonio,
>
> Although my install seems a bit buggy, it may be worth
> your while to look into Slide and the slide webapp
> that is in the cocoon scratchpad.  I am sure it will
> be up to par shortly.  Besides, using different tools
> (e.g. POI), you could convert all your files into XML
> and then transform them as you please.
>
> -Julian
>
> --- Antonio Gallardo
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Yesterday, I was asked to find a solution for
>> document repository and as a
>> Open Source fan I went to sourceforge.net and found
>> Owl Intranet Engine:
>> http://owl.sourceforge.net/
>>
>> But as a Cocoon addict I thinked it is a fine
>> opportunity to test the
>> directory generator and a FileWriter interface that
>> currently is in
>> Cocoon.
>>
>> Can someone point me if this can be really easily
>> done in Cocoon?
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
>>
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Re: WYSIWYG XSLT Editors?

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Franck Lumpe dijo:
> Antonio,
>
> Thanks for the pointers.
>
> Maybe we should set up a page on the Wiki for XML Editing Best Practices
> (solutions for client processing, browser-based solutions, practical
> WebDav, etc.)
>
> Not specifically a Cocoon issue but an important part of the
> implementation process.
> There is no publishing if there is no content!

Yes, it is true. These are the complement to Cocoon. How to tell people
about changing to XML if they does not have a easy way to publish his
work?
I think in this area OpenOffice is making a great job.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo
>
> Regards,
>
> Franck Lumpe
>
>
>>
>> Please check:
>>
>> http://xml.openoffice.org/sx2ml/
>> http://xml.openoffice.org/saxecho/
>> http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/02/07/openoffice.html
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
>>
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A documents repository......

[Antonio Gallardo]

Yesterday, I was asked to find a solution for document repository and as a
Open Source fan I went to sourceforge.net and found Owl Intranet Engine:
http://owl.sourceforge.net/

But as a Cocoon addict I thinked it is a fine opportunity to test the
directory generator and a FileWriter interface that currently is in
Cocoon.

Can someone point me if this can be really easily done in Cocoon?

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Re: WYSIWYG XSLT Editors?

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Franck Lumpe dijo:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>> Well, you can see all the OpenOffice.org products as a big WYSIWYG
>> XSLT editing.
>
> Uh?!
>
> I heard that the data format was XML but nothing more.
>
> As I am too lazy to investigate (and probably its interesting for
> others), could you please give us some hint on what OpenOffice has to do
> with XSLT.

Please check:

http://xml.openoffice.org/sx2ml/
http://xml.openoffice.org/saxecho/
http://www.xml.com/pub/a/2001/02/07/openoffice.html

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RE: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Alireza Fattahi dijo:
> I think cocoon needs some thing like blank web application( if it does
> not already have, I am new to Coocon:) ). There is one in Struts.

please check:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=Tutorials

It will helps you to understand the USER philosophy behind this incredible
web machine in less than 3 hours! (Sams does not publish a similar book!
lol). And you will after that start to build your own web application.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo



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> Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:14 PM
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> Subject: Re: Cocoon is too complex for consumption?
>
> Jeff Turner wrote:
>
>> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=BlocksDefinition
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=101603335007960&w=2
>> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=101732982704553&w=2
>
> oh, but that is unfair since you are a Cocoon committer and you have
> easier access to such things... not! ;-)
>
> 
> --
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Re: WYSIWYG XSLT Editors?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Robert Simmons dijo:
> Greetings,
>
> I have downloaded the evaluation version of eXcelon Stylus Studio and am
> enjoying it. What I wanted to know was who are their competitors for
> WYSIWYG XSLT editing and other XML editing. I would like to see as many
> products as I can before I decide on a purchase.

Well, you can see all the OpenOffice.org products as a big WYSIWYG XSLT
editing.

Antonio Gallardo
>
> -- Robert




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Re: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)

[Antonio Gallardo]

I already tried sunBow and is very fine. Is at his early stages but
promise a good future.

I am also looking for a XSP debbuger. Where I can find it?

Antonio Gallardo.

Martin Dulisch dijo:
> sunBow (a plug in for eclipse) has a XSLT Trace feature. It is not
> binded to cocoon. But it is very helpfull to find bugs in stylesheets.
> You can find it here: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/
>
> Martin
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 12:20 PM
> Subject: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)
>
>
>> >AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
>> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>>
>> Where can I get hold of a XSLT debugger to use with cocoon? a lot of
> times
>> cocoon doesn't provide much debugging information when there is
> something
>> wrong with your stylesheets.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: 23 January 2003 17:09
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: RE: .Net port of Cocoon
>>
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:05 PM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: .Net port of Cocoon
>>
>> > >
>> > >Granted, there is no debugger in Cocoon,
>> > >
>> >
>> > ... and shoud not be: all IDEs as well as JDK has debuggers. Use
> them
>> > remotely or start your servlet engine from under it - in either
> case you
>> > can put breakpoints and debug your Java.
>> >
>> > /me goes back to lurking
>> > Vadim
>>
>> Vadim,
>>
>> let's get this straight: since Cocoon is composed of many
> technologies, a
>> Java debugger alone cannot do the work.
>>
>> I'd like to debug my XSLT, see the parameters' values as they flow
> from the
>> sitemap to the XSLT, check every stage's XML output, set
>> breakpoints in Actions... and more: this is what an ideal Cocoon
> debugger
>> should do.
>>
>> AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers,
>> one for XSLT, one for Java...
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> -
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Re: XSLT debugger (was RE: .Net port of Cocoon)

[Antonio Gallardo]

Check:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/transformers/log-transformer.html

Antonio

Mark H dijo:
>>AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
> Where can I get hold of a XSLT debugger to use with cocoon? a lot of
> times cocoon doesn't provide much debugging information when there is
> something wrong with your stylesheets.
>
> Mark
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Luca Morandini [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 23 January 2003 17:09
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: .Net port of Cocoon
>
>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 5:05 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: .Net port of Cocoon
>
>> >
>> >Granted, there is no debugger in Cocoon,
>> >
>>
>> ... and shoud not be: all IDEs as well as JDK has debuggers. Use them
>> remotely or start your servlet engine from under it - in either case
>> you can put breakpoints and debug your Java.
>>
>> /me goes back to lurking
>> Vadim
>
> Vadim,
>
> let's get this straight: since Cocoon is composed of many technologies,
> a Java debugger alone cannot do the work.
>
> I'd like to debug my XSLT, see the parameters' values as they flow from
> the sitemap to the XSLT, check every stage's XML output, set
> breakpoints in Actions... and more: this is what an ideal Cocoon
> debugger should do.
>
> AFAIK, there is no single debugger like this, only a patchwork of
> debuggers, one for XSLT, one for Java...
>
>
> Regards,
>
> -
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RE: Cocoon Portal Framework for production use?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Carsten Ziegeler dijo:
> Martin Schimak wrote:
>>
>> I have a new Intranet project (In July 2003, a very first release
>> should be ready) and
>> would like to use Cocoon 2.1 with Portal Framework to implement  it. I
>> would like to know
>> your personal opinions: Is it safe now to use 2.1 for production?
>
> Personally, I see no problems in using 2.1 in production environment, we
> are using it and many others here on the list are using 2.1
> in production environments for many months.
> But, as 2.1 is currently alpha, you might have to deal with
> incompatible changes which might occur in the next weeks until
> a beta is available.

We are already using 2.1 in production environment since Octuber 2002. Now
it is very stable. I only recommend you that before changing from version
to the next CVS version, you must be carefully to test it before deploy it
in production.

The application in question is a Database Webapp in an Intranet
Environment, that currently has 45 users. The core of the application is
Cocoon 2.1 CVS (20-Ene-2003).

>
>> I understand that End
>> of February 2003 2.1 Beta 1 is available. Does exist a possible
>> release day for 2.1-final?
>>
> No, there are no real dates - the date for the beta 1 is currently only
> a wish - we will see by then if we can make it. But I think
> the beta will come in the next two or three months (but don't
> quote me on this).

I hope it! ;-)

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo
AG Software, S. A.
>
> HTH
> Carsten
>
> Carsten Ziegeler
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RE: Logicsheet problems - global XSLT variables

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Mark H dijo:
> Thanks Antonio, I'll try it out. How does the reload-method="synchron"
> improve things?

It will check if there are some changes before serving the request. For
development environment it is fine since we are always changing the
sources.

Antonio Gallardo.
>
> -Original Message-----
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> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Logicsheet problems - global XSLT variables
>
>
>> Also, do others find working with Cocoon very frustrating? When you
>> make a change it takes forever for the web-app to reload and
>> re-compile the java class, espcially when it takes up so much memory.
>
> You need to add in your cocoon.xconf file:
>
>  config="resource://org/apache/cocoon/components/treeprocessor/treeprocessor-
> builtins.xml"
> file="context://sitemap.xmap" logger="sitemap"/>
>
> Search for the  tag and add the attributes:
>
> reload-method="synchron"
> check-reload="yes"
>
> Antonio Gallardo
>
>>
>> Thx in advance,
>> Mark
>>
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RE: cvs2.1 snapshot download date jan 22 2003 - gives me out of memory error

[Antonio Gallardo]

Geoff Howard dijo:
>
> Antonio, you've hit on an interesting issue.  I am still using a 1.4.0x
> version of java.  I have 1.4.1 downloaded but haven't even bothered to
> extract it yet.  I wonder if there's something there?
>
> Geoff

I think yes, there must be "something" bacause if you check the released
notes there are many bugs patched since the first version of 1.4. I can
said that it looks stable now thanks to the lastest Carsten patch to the
cache in Cocoon 2.1 dev (mid of January 2003). Now, I can run Apache
Tomcat 4.1.18 all the day without restarting every midnight.

I encorage you to upgrade to Java 1.4.1_01 if you are experience some
unexplained errors. I am using it since it was posted on sun web site.

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RE: cvs2.1 snapshot download date jan 22 2003 - gives me out of memory error

[Antonio Gallardo]

Are you done a:

./build.sh clean

before you started? I ask because some sources was changed of place.

Antonio Gallardo

e nio dijo:
>Thanks for the responses.  My compile was getting stuck near
> the very end, creating the war file.  Anyhow, after setting the
> env varexport ANT_OPTS="-Xms100m -Xmx228m"   and rerunning
> same build command i had earlier, worked.  Fyi, the war file
> created is now25245720 Jan 23 17:25 cocoon.war.. this is
> huge, 25meg.  Not all samples work still, and like the slide
> show which was working for me not too long ago. Oh well.
>
> Regards,
> enio
> --- Antonio Gallardo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Just for the register:
>>
>>
>> I am using Red Hat Linux 8.0 and Java 1.4.1_01 and dont need
>> to use:
>>
>> ANT_OPTS=-Xms100m -Xmx228m
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
>>
>>
>> Geoff Howard dijo:
>> > There are some changes happening in the build (blocks,
>> validation, etc)
>> > that are taking more memory these days.  You should search
>> the archives
>> > (dev archive will have more I think) for recent postings on
>> the subject.
>> >  For instance, see
>> > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10432127333&r=1&w=2.
>> The brief
>> > summary of suggestions is :
>> >
>> > 1) Increase the amount of memory available to the build jvm
>> by setting
>> > the ANT_OPTS environment variable to as large as you can.
>> >  ANT_OPTS=-Xms100m -Xmx228m is what I'm currently using.
>> > 2) Reduce the amount of things the build has to do at once.
>> For
>> > instance, use webapp-local to skip building the war.
>> Disable javadocs.
>> > Disable validation.  Options for the build can be set by
>> modifying
>> > properties.xml, or by using a .ant.properties file to
>> override the
>> > defaults.  You can add skipped steps back in later after the
>> compiling
>> > is already done.
>> >
>> > I only needed step one, but depending on your systems memory
>> you'll have
>> > options.  There is also a very recent (within the last 12
>> hours) patch
>> > that may make these steps less necessary, though I haven't
>> tried it yet.
>> >
>> > Geoff Howard
>> >
>> >> -Original Message-
>> >> From: e nio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 23, 2003 6:19 PM
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>> >> Subject: cvs2.1 snapshot download date jan 22 2003 - gives
>> me out of
>> >> memory error
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>   Anyone else experiencing this OutOfMemory when compiling
>> the
>> >> development snapshot dated Jan 22 2003 -
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Re: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi, I think that Xforms will be mainy used for web DB app.

I am using this opensource tool that can be extended to build other
formats from an database design. His name is Druid you can find it at:

http://sourceforge.net/projects/druid

I  can said that I already build my postgresql database using this
excelent tool.


Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

Josema Alonso dijo:
>> Excelent document.
> Thank you.
>
>> I would like to suggest a slight improvement.
>> The Model part can be improved quite a bit if you use a DOM object
> directly
>> instead of a JavaBean wrapper.
>> more specificly:
>> ...
> Wow. It sounds very very good. I really need to learn much more about
> JXPath.
> I'll try to code it this weekend or early next week and update the Wiki
> accordingly.
>
> I'll post my results and/or doubts here, too.
>
> Thanks a lot for your help.
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RE: cvs2.1 snapshot download date jan 22 2003 - gives me out of memory error

[Antonio Gallardo]

Just for the register:


I am using Red Hat Linux 8.0 and Java 1.4.1_01 and dont need to use:

ANT_OPTS=-Xms100m -Xmx228m

Antonio Gallardo


Geoff Howard dijo:
> There are some changes happening in the build (blocks, validation, etc)
> that are taking more memory these days.  You should search the archives
> (dev archive will have more I think) for recent postings on the subject.
>  For instance, see
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10432127333&r=1&w=2.  The brief
> summary of suggestions is :
>
> 1) Increase the amount of memory available to the build jvm by setting
> the ANT_OPTS environment variable to as large as you can.
>  ANT_OPTS=-Xms100m -Xmx228m is what I'm currently using.
> 2) Reduce the amount of things the build has to do at once.  For
> instance, use webapp-local to skip building the war.  Disable javadocs.
> Disable validation.  Options for the build can be set by modifying
> properties.xml, or by using a .ant.properties file to override the
> defaults.  You can add skipped steps back in later after the compiling
> is already done.
>
> I only needed step one, but depending on your systems memory you'll have
> options.  There is also a very recent (within the last 12 hours) patch
> that may make these steps less necessary, though I haven't tried it yet.
>
> Geoff Howard
>
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>> development snapshot dated Jan 22 2003 -
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>>
>> ./build.sh  -Dinclude.webapp.libs=yes
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RE: XMLForm Xindice Howto added to Wiki [please, att. Ivelin]

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi!

I strongly believe in XForms, but the sample you pointed show that the use
with Java Beans for DB connectivity and data validation is currently too
complex. I am thinking in what will happen if every form will be code like
the example in a huge application? What about changes in the large DB
application?

Can a generator build the Java Beans automatically what about the Action
automatically generated? Maybe we can find the answer in this area.

Please dont take this email in the wrong sense. I know this is a very new
technology and you are doing your best effort to get it run under Cocoon.

But maybe we can find another way to make it easier.

If this is the currently way to work with the XForms with Db connectivity.
I think many people will stay at the current model:

XML Form + stylesheet + validation form + DB modular actions.

Maybe we can find something similar.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.

P.D: I know this is a cruel critic to the current work developed in this
area. But I think it must to be told. Please dont take me bad. I strongly
believe in Cocoon.


Sorry

Josema Alonso dijo:
> Ouch...I forgot to include the URL. I'm sorry.
>
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=XMLFormXindice
>
> Thanks :)
>
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Re: AW: AW: XSP Redirection HELP!!!

[Antonio Gallardo]

Marco Rolappe dijo:
> well, it does work, I tried it out.
>
> only one generator per pipeline, that's right (only one generator can be
> set at pipeline setup time). but in this case, there is only one
> pipeline, that is the ServerPagesGenerator. the redirect is to another
> pipeline.

Sorry I dont know and I think that as you told. This is a ugly solution.
And I dont know if the code can be used in future releases of Cocoon.

Anyway I recomend to use the correct approach. Solutions are always many,
but we need to use the best.

The Cocoon gurus said that the XSP-Action for databases is not the best:

http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/userdocs/concepts/databases.html

"Actions are especially great for inserting, changing, or deleting data.
Employing the pipeline-switching features of actions will simplify your
pages. Such actions are concerned with only one view: either the success
or failure of an operation.

ESQL is great when reading data from a database. However, it is less
attractive to use when it has to react to operation failures. This is due
to the fact that it adds a layer of complexity to an XSP file, making it
more difficult to understand and maintain. "


Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo

>
> anyway, I can imagine the use of XSP actions for prototyping (apart from
> generating and using XML fragments).
>
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>
>
> This will does not work because you have one generator in the pipeline.
> A strict rule in any version af Cocoon told:
>
> "Just ONE generator for pipeline"
>
> then the another generator on the target of the redirection will not be
> loaded. I think it will throw a Exception. (Gurus, please shine us and
> tell us what will happen). I never tried to do somethig like this. See
> more comments down.
>
>>
>>
>> another alternative would be to use your xsp via the already mentioned
>> ServerPagesAction (if you must use xsp):
>>
>>  
>>
>> in your sitemap:
>>
>>  
>>  
>>  ...
>>  
>>
>> for this, you must have the serverpages action declared in the
>> sitemap. then you can redirect via  in the sitemap or
>> you can redirect from within the xsp via action:redirect-to (action
>> logicsheet).
>>
>> third alternative would be to directly code the action, invoke it in
>> your 'save-form-data' pipeline, after which you redirect.
>
> I think this is a good aproach too. But I dont see why to waste a XSP
> when any flavor of Database Action (Original or Modular) can do this for
> you. Listen:
>
> If you think you need your special XSP page because you need to validate
> the form data that you received from the user request. The answer is:
>
> Why reinvent the cool water? There is another fine action that can do
> this for you, please check the following snip from my sitemap:
>
> 
> 
>   
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
>   
> 
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
>
> For more info about form Validation Action, please check:
>
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FormValidationUsingCocoon
>
> I hope it will help you. ;-)
>
> Antonio Gallardo
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Re: AW: XSP Redirection HELP!!!

[Antonio Gallardo]

Marco Rolappe dijo:
> are you using your xsp as an action via ServerPagesAction?
>
> are you using your xsp as the target for the form action? like this:
>
>   
>
> in your sitemap:
>
>   
>   
>   ...
>   
>
> you could redirect after the generation step via  but
> this is kind of ugly.

This will does not work because you have one generator in the pipeline. A
strict rule in any version af Cocoon told:

"Just ONE generator for pipeline"

then the another generator on the target of the redirection will not be
loaded. I think it will throw a Exception. (Gurus, please shine us and
tell us what will happen). I never tried to do somethig like this. See
more comments down.

>
>
> another alternative would be to use your xsp via the already mentioned
> ServerPagesAction (if you must use xsp):
>
>   
>
> in your sitemap:
>
>   
>   
>   ...
>   
>
> for this, you must have the serverpages action declared in the sitemap.
> then you can redirect via  in the sitemap or you can
> redirect from within the xsp via action:redirect-to (action logicsheet).
>
> third alternative would be to directly code the action, invoke it in
> your 'save-form-data' pipeline, after which you redirect.

I think this is a good aproach too. But I dont see why to waste a XSP when
any flavor of Database Action (Original or Modular) can do this for you.
Listen:

If you think you need your special XSP page because you need to validate
the form data that you received from the user request. The answer is:

Why reinvent the cool water? There is another fine action that can do this
for you, please check the following snip from my sitemap:



  
  
  




  

  


  




For more info about form Validation Action, please check:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FormValidationUsingCocoon

I hope it will help you. ;-)

Antonio Gallardo

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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I am sorry I framed my question wrong.
>
> I am already successfully saving my form data to oracle using esql:query
> in my xsp page.
>
> What I need to know is how I can send/redirect the user to the home
> page, after I close the esql:connection.
>
> Thanks
> Raj
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about instrumentation client.

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi Marcus!

Thanks again!

I am back for some advise from the instruments guru. ;-)

Where I can find some explaination about the aditional info in the
instrument manager?

For example the authentication manager has:

authentication-manager
  pool  - The pool of the manager
blocks  - ?
creates - Create() a component in the pool
decommissions   - Destroy() components in the pool
gets- Already created and getted?
puts- Already in the pool and returned?
ready-size  - ?
size- ? in KB or number of components?
  gets  - ?
  puts  - ?
  references- Sum of the calls to
manager.lock(auth-manager.ROLE) in the code.

I know that the components must be declared as "instrumentable". But I
think currently there are no many components declared as needed.

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Re: XSP Redirection HELP!!!

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Rajasekhar Atchutuni dijo:
> Hi,
>
> I am sorry I framed my question wrong.
>
> I am already successfully saving my form data to oracle using esql:query
> in  my xsp page.
>
> What I need to know is how I can send/redirect the user to the home
> page,  after I close the esql:connection.
>
> Thanks
> Raj

Hi again!

Yes, but in order to do that you need to use and action. Can you send the
snip of your code? It is still dont clear to me.

There are 2 approach:

A- One page:

** 1 page that is always called and show the data (edit mode).

B- more pages:

** 1 for show a clean form (insert)
** 1 for show the data in a filled form (edit mode)
** 1 for confirm

Can you tell me what approach are you using?

Antonio Gallardo
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>  > Hi,
>  >
>  > I am using cocoon 2.0.3 with tomcat 4.1.
>  >
>  > In my xsl form submit I call an action that generates an xsp. The xsp
> writes the form data to sql; After this I need an auto redirect to
> the home  page.  How do I do this?
>  >
>  > Thanks for the help.
>  >
>  > Raj
>
> Hi:
>
> I understand that you generate a request that use the XSP Generator.
> (Please, dont get me wrong here. I am just trying to explain what I
> understanded from your mail). If this is true
>
> You can change the pipeline to make the update to the SQL database using
> Database Actions (there are two flavors) and after sucessfull update,
> you redirect the page where you need it.
>
> Any Action is executed inmediately as they are readed from the sitemap.
> Please read between lines:
>
> "before the selected pipeline is executed".
>
> For more info about Database Actions see:
>
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=DatabaseActions
>
> By the way, If you can, update to 2.0.4 that is more stable...
>
> Note: I dont know if Modular Database Actions works in 2.03 I think no,
> but check for some examples if this flavor of DB Actions are included or
> not. Original Database Actions are fine too.
>
> I hope It will helps you.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Antonio Gallardo.
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Re: XSP Redirection HELP!!!

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Rajasekhar Atchutuni dijo:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am using cocoon 2.0.3 with tomcat 4.1.
>
> In my xsl form submit I call an action that generates an xsp. The xsp
> writes the form data to sql; After this I need an auto redirect to the
> home  page.  How do I do this?
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> Raj

Hi:

I understand that you generate a request that use the XSP Generator.
(Please, dont get me wrong here. I am just trying to explain what I
understanded from your mail). If this is true

You can change the pipeline to make the update to the SQL database using
Database Actions (there are two flavors) and after sucessfull update, you
redirect the page where you need it.

Any Action is executed inmediately as they are readed from the sitemap.
Please read between lines:

"before the selected pipeline is executed".

For more info about Database Actions see:

http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=DatabaseActions

By the way, If you can, update to 2.0.4 that is more stable...

Note: I dont know if Modular Database Actions works in 2.03 I think no,
but check for some examples if this flavor of DB Actions are included or
not. Original Database Actions are fine too.

I hope It will helps you.

Best Regards,

Antonio Gallardo.


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Re: Running instrumentation-client....

[Antonio Gallardo]

Really I dont know what happened but after reading your mail and starting
Tomcat I runned again the CVS version and it works!

I dont know why yesterday it does not work. I think Java sometimes retain
the jars on memory and this cause some errors.

Antonio Gallardo.

Marcus Crafter dijo:
> Hi Antonio,
>
> On Mon, Jan 20, 2003 at 02:19:22PM -0600, Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>> Hi.
>>
>> Can someone help me to make run again the instrumentation client?
>
>   Yes, I'll help you get it running. :)
>
>> I had it running before the lastest CVS updates (end of dic-2002). I
>> downloaded the new excalibur CVS, because the once that is in Cocoon
>> CVS run for me, but does not connect to the servlet.
>
>   Your configuration looks ok, but according to the avalon-dev
>   archives, you'll need to run the instrumentation client from the
>   Cocoon CVS in tools/instrumentation when connecting to the Cocoon
> webapp. The issue lies in the altrmi jars.
>
>   According to the archives the -common.jar needs to be the same on  both
> the server and client, which is the change I made recently
>   (and an update to the latest code).
>
>   Does the instrumentation client work correctly when you run the
>   runclient.sh script from tools/instrumentation/bin in Cocoon CVS ?
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Running instrumentation-client....

[Antonio Gallardo]

Hi.

Can someone help me to make run again the instrumentation client?

I had it running before the lastest CVS updates (end of dic-2002). I
downloaded the new excalibur CVS, because the once that is in Cocoon CVS
run for me, but does not connect to the servlet.

Also it does not write nothing on the output console. Just said:

[Not Connected]

I have configured the web.xml:


  enable-instrumentation
  true



  instrumentation-config
  /WEB-INF/instrumentation.xconf


And of course the default instrumentation.xconf file is placed it this
place. What can be my fault?

I am using:

Red Hat Linux 8.0 (full patched).
Tomcat 4.1.18
Java 1.4.1_01
Cocoon 2.1 CVS (lastest).

Thanks in advance,

Antonio Gallardo.




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Re: 10 basic survival tips for cocoon users (was: Logicsheet problems - global XSLT variables)

[Antonio Gallardo]

Its. OK.

Start an "XML-authoring tools".

Antonio Gallardo



SAXESS - Hussayn Dabbous dijo:
> hy Antonio;
>
> What about adding your contrib directly to
>
> http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=SurvivalTips
>
> or related pages ;-) ?
>
> Maybe you could contrib a link to jEdit.org ?
> Maybe it is even worthwhile to add a new wikipage for
> "XML-authoring tools" ...
> What do you mean ?
>
> regards, hussayn
>
>>
>> 9.01) I use jEdit.org to all my development in Cocoon. jEdit has a
>> plugins called XML and XSLT. The XML plugin helps writing XML stuff
>> checking the tags. The XSLT pluging helps to see the results of
>> applying 1 or more Stylesheets to a page. This is useful to check what
>> are the stylesheets doing.
>>
>> 
>> I think it will be fine to write a survival guide in wiki. :-)
>> 
>>
>> Antonio Gallardo
>>
>>
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RE: Not loading the HSQLDB?

[Antonio Gallardo]

Stephan Michels dijo:
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Geoff Howard wrote:
>
>> Sorry you never got an answer here - I don't have much to add but the
>> following:
>>
>> 1) I don't think HSQLDB is necessary for proper internal working of
>> cocoon. 2) I'm pretty sure I managed to disable it by modifying
>> cocoon.xconf (and maybe something else).  Unfortunately, I don't have
>> time to track down what I did.  If you provide more information on
>> what's happening when cocoon does not "work properly" that may help
>> me/others figure out what's happening. For instance, if you've removed
>> the jar from WEB-INF/lib but failed to remove the reference to the
>> hsqldb class in web.xml you may have problems right there.
>>
>> HTH,
>> Geoff Howard
>>
>> > -Original Message-
>> > From: Mark Horgan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 10:13 AM
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Not loading the HSQLDB?
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I'm trying to not load the HSQLDB on startup to save memory. I've
>> tried commenting the  tag in cocoon.xconf but it
>> still loads and causes cocoon not to work properly. Is HSQLDB
>> required for proper/internal working of cocoon and if not how does
>> one not load it?
>
> Do you also removed the entry in web.xml?
>
> Stephan.

And after that you can remove the .jar from the WEB-LIB.

Antonio Gallardo
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Re: serializing inside a transformer

[Antonio Gallardo]

hi:

I am not a pro in Cocoon. How do this the log transformer? check the
sources of

org.apache.cocoon.transformation.LogTransformer

And maybe there you can found your answer.

Antonio Gallardo.

Oskar Casquero dijo:
> Hi,
>
> I would like to serialize SAX events to a file inside a transformer, so
> that I can validate the file with the parser. The problem is that I
> don't how to set the serializer in order to make it able to receive the
> SAX events which the transformer is receiving from the previous
> component (a generator or another transformer). Here is a code snippet
> that shows what I'm trying to do: public class MyValidationTransformer
> extends AbstractSAXTransformer {
>
> XMLSerializer serializer = (XMLSerializer)
> this.manager.lookup(XMLSerializer.ROLE);
>
>FileOutputStream fos = new FileOutputStream(/tmp/tmp.xml);
>
> serializer.setOutputStream(fos);
>
> /*???
>
> HOW TO SEND THE SAX EVENTS THE TRANSFORMER IS RECEIVING TO THE
> SERIALIZER
>
>  *???/
>
> FileInputStream fis = new FileInputStream(/tmp/tmp.xml);
>
> InputSource is = new InputSource(fis);
>
> Parser parser = (Parser)this.manager.lookup(Parser.ROLE);
>
> boolean validation = parameters.getParameterAsBoolean("validation",
> false);
>
> parser.myParse(this.inputSource, super.xmlConsumer, validation);
>
> }
>
> Oskar




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RE: XSP : control structures

[Antonio Gallardo]

"XSP should at most be used to transfer data from request attributes into
to the SAX stream."

> Artur...

Good point! I do the same too.

Antonio Gallardo.



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