Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many. Has anyone ever seen one in use? Yeah, on TV shows and in movies, thanks to CGI and animation. Steve Well, it's not quite THAT bad. They do exist, and they are in use. I know that some hotels use them (Sheraton is one). They're also in some Hard Rock Cafes and (I've heard) in Disneyland. MSNBC used one during its election coverage. And, of course, MS uses them in its own retail stores. I've seen them (and used them) myself many times, although not in the wild, only at MS events. If you have $12,500 that you're tired of carrying around, you can buy one today for yourself. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
The second market of aging baby boomers and the greatest generation may be even more significant in that it is mostly untapped. This market has been largely bypassed by the information age. The majority is off the grid and many are computer phobic. The PC or smart phone is not intuitive to them I have to say that I think they are on the mark with this assessment. My husband is fairly computer illiteratehe has a macbook and an iMac but I had to set them up for him and have to answer daily questions on how to accomplish what to me are obvious things. His cell phone is as old as he is (67)g and he really wants to get rid of it because he doesn't need it. But ever since the announcement of the iPad he has bombarded me with questions about it and what it will do (for him). He is a readerwith books lining the walls and every other surface of his officeand is huge on newspapers but is sick of having to throw them out because of the waste. He does crossword puzzles all the time.so for him, the big iTouch is perfect. He couldn't manipulate or see to read on the small version so the big one is the answer. This is the first time Ive ever had to compete with him for first rights to a tech toy! I want an iPad too! Paula Minor raven880atindy.net * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
The possible windows pad is an advertising feint. Just like M$ announced the Surface when Apple's iPhone Buzz sucked all the oxygen out of the market before it's release the pad is a peice of advertising vaporware intended to keep the M$ name in circulation. To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many. Has anyone ever seen one in use? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:05 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: So what is fictitious that you are talking about? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many. Has anyone ever seen one in use? Yeah, on TV shows and in movies, thanks to CGI and animation. Steve * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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I didn't even know MS was working on a pad like device...I know HP has the slate which is a finished product and due soon. There are a lot of devices coming out that are pad like devices, some more expensive than others. I seriously doubt when MS saw the iphone they said to themselves 'holy cow we need to make a multitouch device the size of a small car to fight them!' No one said the ipad was imaginary, making up stuff never helps your case..and have you seen the ipad? It is a big ipod touch. Aside from size, what is the difference? On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:35 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: The possible windows pad is an advertising feint. Just like M$ announced the Surface when Apple's iPhone Buzz sucked all the oxygen out of the market before it's release the pad is a peice of advertising vaporware intended to keep the M$ name in circulation. Exactly. We are a few weeks away from being able to walk into an Apple Store to buy an iPad. M$ is still doodling and has not even settled on the processor necessary to run it. That's a big difference. Apple also has a track record of big successes with this type of product. M$ has a record of failure and vaporware. It is interesting how the WFBs will say in the same breath that the iPad is nothing more than a big iTouch and then claim that it is an imaginary product. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
On Mar 9, 2010, at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo wrote: The possible windows pad is an advertising feint. Just like M$ announced the Surface when Apple's iPhone Buzz sucked all the oxygen out of the market before it's release the pad is a peice of advertising vaporware intended to keep the M$ name in circulation. Exactly. We are a few weeks away from being able to walk into an Apple Store to buy an iPad. M$ is still doodling and has not even settled on the processor necessary to run it. That's a big difference. Apple also has a track record of big successes with this type of product. M$ has a record of failure and vaporware. It is interesting how the WFBs will say in the same breath that the iPad is nothing more than a big iTouch and then claim that it is an imaginary product. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yes the local DMV uses touch screens for their Drivers tests, and one of the Big Orthopedic clinics uses windows touch screen laptops for their staff, medical records. Stewart At 06:47 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote: The possible windows pad is an advertising feint. Just like M$ announced the Surface when Apple's iPhone Buzz sucked all the oxygen out of the market before it's release the pad is a peice of advertising vaporware intended to keep the M$ name in circulation. To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many. Has anyone ever seen one in use? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 8:05 PM, mike xha...@gmail.com wrote: So what is fictitious that you are talking about? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
MS has released a required set of hardware requirements for their phones and manufacturers are developing said phones at present. Lets be real Tom they may be slow but they are working on it. Not everyone may be a clueless as you are to reality. Stewart At 08:35 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote: Exactly. We are a few weeks away from being able to walk into an Apple Store to buy an iPad. M$ is still doodling and has not even settled on the processor necessary to run it. That's a big difference. Apple also has a track record of big successes with this type of product. M$ has a record of failure and vaporware. It is interesting how the WFBs will say in the same breath that the iPad is nothing more than a big iTouch and then claim that it is an imaginary product. Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
He is up tight because I said it is not reality yet until it hits the shelves. I say that about anything until it hits retail shelves. The Windows Mobile 7 phone is not reality until it hits store shelves. In my opinion the phone I most want to look at the Motorola Devour is not reality until it hits store shelves. (All I can find is a stupid dummy phone to look at.) Stewart At 09:31 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote: I didn't even know MS was working on a pad like device...I know HP has the slate which is a finished product and due soon. There are a lot of devices coming out that are pad like devices, some more expensive than others. I seriously doubt when MS saw the iphone they said to themselves 'holy cow we need to make a multitouch device the size of a small car to fight them!' No one said the ipad was imaginary, making up stuff never helps your case..and have you seen the ipad? It is a big ipod touch. Aside from size, what is the difference? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
Yes the local DMV uses touch screens for their Drivers tests, and one of the Big Orthopedic clinics uses windows touch screen laptops for their staff, medical records. Stewart Rev, I think the question was about surface platforms, which are different from simple touchscreens. They're typically big, expensive tables with touch-sensitive screens that cover most of the surface. At some point they'll be sensitive to more stuff, e.g., you'll be able to just put your camera anywhere on the surface, and the system will recognize what it is be able to do useful things like downloading the pix. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:31 AM, mike wrote: I didn't even know MS was working on a pad like device... Actually two. One based on WINCE 6.5 and one on Zune. The two teams are reportedly spending a good bit of their resources on backstabbing one another. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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There are some out there but I do not know of any. Frankly just look like a big toy to me. Stewart Rev, I think the question was about surface platforms, which are different from simple touchscreens. They're typically big, expensive tables with touch-sensitive screens that cover most of the surface. At some point they'll be sensitive to more stuff, e.g., you'll be able to just put your camera anywhere on the surface, and the system will recognize what it is be able to do useful things like downloading the pix. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Another typical ms blunder. Stand in a circle and develop software..hope to take out your competition...another ms software group. On Mar 9, 2010 9:36 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 10:31 AM, mike wrote: I didn't even know MS was working on a pad like device Actually two. One based on WINCE 6.5 and one on Zune. The two teams are reportedly spending a good bit of their resources on backstabbing one another. * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo johnduncany...@gmail.com wrote: To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many. Has anyone ever seen one in use? Yeah, on TV shows and in movies, thanks to CGI and animation. You mean, like that iPad commercial tat was posted here the other day? I mean seriously, *nobody* holds something *that* still. Especially when they're poking at it. It doesn't move. It looks like two hands (mostly one though) poking at a green screen, with pictures of people holding their iPads and animation added after the fact. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Yes, M$ seems to announce work on a new me-too project every time Apple starts releasing a new product. Thank you, Mark Snyder -Original Message- MS has released a required set of hardware requirements for their phones and manufacturers are developing said phones at present. Lets be real Tom they may be slow but they are working on it. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Reid Katan wrote: You mean, like that iPad commercial tat was posted here the other day? I mean seriously, *nobody* holds something *that* still. Especially when they're poking at it. It doesn't move. It looks like two hands (mostly one though) poking at a green screen, with pictures of people holding their iPads and animation added after the fact. See. As I wrote: true believers believe the iPad doesn't exist. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad COMMERCIALS
Quoting tjpa t...@tjpa.com: See. As I wrote: true believers believe the iPad doesn't exist. Troll, er, Tom, try to follow along. . . On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 7:47 AM, John Duncan Yoyo To be fair there are a few surface' platforms out there but not many. Has anyone ever seen one in use? Quoting phartz...@gmail.com phartz...@gmail.com: Yeah, on TV shows and in movies, thanks to CGI and animation. On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Reid Katan wrote: You mean, like that iPad commercial tat was posted here the other day? No mention of a non-existent iPad. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
It exists, but not in reality yet. The Ipads in the commercials are prototype editions, not consumer versions. They have to be prototype as the commercials had to be in the bag a month ago. Let us see the consumer product and then we can comment. Stewart At 11:53 AM 3/9/2010, you wrote: On Mar 9, 2010, at 12:10 PM, Reid Katan wrote: You mean, like that iPad commercial tat was posted here the other day? I mean seriously, *nobody* holds something *that* still. Especially when they're poking at it. It doesn't move. It looks like two hands (mostly one though) poking at a green screen, with pictures of people holding their iPads and animation added after the fact. See. As I wrote: true believers believe the iPad doesn't exist. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
On Tue, Mar 9, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Rev. Stewart Marshall popoz...@earthlink.net wrote: Yes the local DMV uses touch screens for their Drivers tests, and one of the Big Orthopedic clinics uses windows touch screen laptops for their staff, medical records. But that sure isn't the surface. I know a Grad student that uses a M$ based tablet but it isn't a NEW iPad competing M$ TABLET (TM). Tablet support was in VISTA. -- John Duncan Yoyo ---o) * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
Stewart Marshall He is up tight because I said it is not reality yet until it hits the shelves. I thought the MS slate/pad/tablet thingie was called the Courier, last I heard it was very much in the prototype stage. I don't know if they're going to run Windows Mobile 7 or Windows 7 on it. I say that about anything until it hits retail shelves. The Windows Mobile 7 phone is not reality until it hits store shelves. In my opinion the phone I most want to look at the Motorola Devour is not reality until it hits store shelves. (All I can find is a stupid dummy phone to look at.) Yup -- Take care | This clown speaks for himself, his job doesn't Wayne D. | supply this, at least not directly My reality check just bounced * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Yes but it still sucks, Just like the iPod and iPhone did. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Well it's possible this could be less of a hit...it is just a big ipod touch, they didn't add anything to it. This is sort of a no brainer product, I'm more intersted what Apple will do with the iPhone for it's next release, I think it's time they do something since it's remained unchanged since it came out and they have MS and Android both releasing strong products. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:36 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 7, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Eric S. Sande wrote: Yes but it still sucks, Just like the iPod and iPhone did. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:36 PM, tjpa wrote: Just like the iPod and iPhone did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDu9qfKpz44feature=youtu.be * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Cool..big ipod touch... On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 10:59 AM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:36 PM, tjpa wrote: Just like the iPod and iPhone did. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDu9qfKpz44feature=youtu.be * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:57 PM, mike wrote: I think it's time they do something since it's remained unchanged since it came out and they have MS and Android both releasing strong products. M$ product is an animation, you can't drive nails with it. Can I pay for it with virtual money? * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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No idea what you are talking about. On Mar 8, 2010 1:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:57 PM, mike wrote: I think it's time they do something since it's remained... M$ product is an animation, you can't drive nails with it. Can I pay for it with virtual money? * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Windows 7 for Mobile for phones is not a released product yet. Until it is released and until someone can actually put it through it paces it is not reality. Sort of like the Ipad right now. Stewart At 02:20 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: No idea what you are talking about. On Mar 8, 2010 1:18 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 12:57 PM, mike wrote: I think it's time they do something since it's remained... M$ product is an animation, you can't drive nails with it. Can I pay for it with virtual money? * ** List info, subscrip... * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Until it hits retail shelves it does not exist. We have only seen Jobs handle it and some after time playing. Same with Windows 7 phone. On April 3 we will see the whole story when it hits the shelves. Stewart At 05:51 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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So what is fictitious that you are talking about? On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 4:51 PM, tjpa t...@tjpa.com wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
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Hardware is different than software. until a piece of hardware hits the retail shelves it is not real, as it can be tweaked played with etc. Software is similar but usually they soak the ground with betas etc. MS is working with phone manufacturers to make sure they meet certain hardware minimums that MS wants. Already they are talking a 1 Ghz processor within the phone. Until the phone meets software we will just have to see. Last night I saw the first ads for the Ipad. Lots of Ad space, but not a real look at it. Until it hits the shelves (it has already been delayed) we wont know real world reviews of it. Lets be honest here. If MS announced a spectacular new piece of hardware/software and did not let you feel it and touch itl, you would cry that it is vapor ware until it actually hit the shelves. I wont go that far with the Ipad. It is not reality until it is in the hands of the consumers and the reviewers (not prototypes, but real actual live Ipads) I already saw where the CEO of ATT was saying most folks do not want to pay for an extra 3G service plan. So he did not expect a huge number of those to be sold. Kind of a strange comment to me. Stewart At 07:06 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: Until it hits retail shelves it does not exist. We have only seen Jobs handle it and some after time playing. Same with Windows 7 phone. On April 3 we will see the whole story when it hits the shelves. Stewart At 05:51 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
The new windows phone has been seen, touched and played with much like the ipad was at the announcement. MS just doesn't have the press drugged up on Apple juice. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Hardware is different than software. until a piece of hardware hits the retail shelves it is not real, as it can be tweaked played with etc. Software is similar but usually they soak the ground with betas etc. MS is working with phone manufacturers to make sure they meet certain hardware minimums that MS wants. Already they are talking a 1 Ghz processor within the phone. Until the phone meets software we will just have to see. Last night I saw the first ads for the Ipad. Lots of Ad space, but not a real look at it. Until it hits the shelves (it has already been delayed) we wont know real world reviews of it. Lets be honest here. If MS announced a spectacular new piece of hardware/software and did not let you feel it and touch itl, you would cry that it is vapor ware until it actually hit the shelves. I wont go that far with the Ipad. It is not reality until it is in the hands of the consumers and the reviewers (not prototypes, but real actual live Ipads) I already saw where the CEO of ATT was saying most folks do not want to pay for an extra 3G service plan. So he did not expect a huge number of those to be sold. Kind of a strange comment to me. Stewart At 07:06 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: Until it hits retail shelves it does not exist. We have only seen Jobs handle it and some after time playing. Same with Windows 7 phone. On April 3 we will see the whole story when it hits the shelves. Stewart At 05:51 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
At this point they are prototype phones. No real shelf models. I saw the hardware requirements and it should be powerful platform. I am intrigued, a neat interface, but until it is reality it is not a real product. Stewart At 08:41 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: The new windows phone has been seen, touched and played with much like the ipad was at the announcement. MS just doesn't have the press drugged up on Apple juice. On Mon, Mar 8, 2010 at 7:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall revsamarsh...@earthlink.net wrote: Hardware is different than software. until a piece of hardware hits the retail shelves it is not real, as it can be tweaked played with etc. Software is similar but usually they soak the ground with betas etc. MS is working with phone manufacturers to make sure they meet certain hardware minimums that MS wants. Already they are talking a 1 Ghz processor within the phone. Until the phone meets software we will just have to see. Last night I saw the first ads for the Ipad. Lots of Ad space, but not a real look at it. Until it hits the shelves (it has already been delayed) we wont know real world reviews of it. Lets be honest here. If MS announced a spectacular new piece of hardware/software and did not let you feel it and touch itl, you would cry that it is vapor ware until it actually hit the shelves. I wont go that far with the Ipad. It is not reality until it is in the hands of the consumers and the reviewers (not prototypes, but real actual live Ipads) I already saw where the CEO of ATT was saying most folks do not want to pay for an extra 3G service plan. So he did not expect a huge number of those to be sold. Kind of a strange comment to me. Stewart At 07:06 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: Until it hits retail shelves it does not exist. We have only seen Jobs handle it and some after time playing. Same with Windows 7 phone. On April 3 we will see the whole story when it hits the shelves. Stewart At 05:51 PM 3/8/2010, you wrote: On Mar 8, 2010, at 4:18 PM, Rev. Stewart Marshall wrote: Sort of like the Ipad right now. No, the iPad exists. You can drive nails with it. It is not yet available for retail sale, but that is not the same as being fictitious. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * Rev. Stewart A. Marshall mailto:popoz...@earthlink.net Prince of Peace www.princeofpeaceozark.org Ozark, AL SL 82 * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
[CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
http://www.internetevolution.com/author.asp?doc_id=188456f_src=ieupdate One of the big attractions of the iPod was that it was immediately obvious how to work it. Other MP3 players can still leave one scratching ones head over how to operate them. This article predicts a similar huge market for Apple... The second market of aging baby boomers and the greatest generation may be even more significant in that it is mostly untapped. This market has been largely bypassed by the information age. The majority is off the grid and many are computer phobic. The PC or smart phone is not intuitive to them. The iPad doesn’t feel like a computer. It feels like a tool, such as a TV remote control. It turns on at the touch of a button. It doesn’t take forever to turn on, or require esoteric knowledge or a manual. It’s easy to operate. You don’t need a mouse. The screen is large enough for aging eyes (vs. small screens of smart phones). And users can get 3G continuous Internet access. The iPad for this market introduces online banking, iTunes (music, TV episodes, movies, etc.), YouTube, Facebook, Google, Bing, Hulu, Flickr, and the Web in general easily. And grandparents will finally be able to see pictures and videos of their grandkids instantly while directly communicating with them via email or chat. Apple is tapping a huge greenfield market. * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
Yes but it still sucks, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
Re: [CGUYS] A Multigenerational Look at the iPad
Yeah but, how do you really feel? On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 9:01 PM, Eric S. Sande esa...@verizon.net wrote: Yes but it still sucks, * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** * * ** List info, subscription management, list rules, archives, privacy ** ** policy, calmness, a member map, and more at http://www.cguys.org/ ** *
