Re: [Cooker] kernel install issues

2001-08-09 Thread Cooker System

You are not the only one.  Before I found out it was a fluke in the dev 
package that screwed up my rebooting, I thought it had something to do with 
the kernels due to the error LILO spewed out.

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 10:59 pm, you wrote:
 I have had this problem with every kernel upgrade

 the links to config, system.map and vmlinuz are not
 being linked to the new kernel when installed. I have
 to do this manually. Also initrd.img is not created
 (and therefore also not linked). If there is a lilo
 script that is supposed to run, it obviously fails but
 does not warn the user. This means that any
 unsuspecting user will have their system not boot
 properly after an upgrade!

 Am I the only person experiencing this? If so, how can
 I correct this?

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Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why Linux sucks...

2001-08-09 Thread Terrible Tom

on 8/9/01 12:52 AM, David Walluck at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Terrible Tom wrote:
 
 My vote is for the minimal porn station
 
 We'd best not vote on this unless we want it to end up in the
 distribution, as I'm sure you're not the only one who wants this g
 
 As much as I'd like it, I just don't think it would fly :)


heh :)





[Cooker] Issues in fresh Cooker install Aug 9, 2001 (kernel 2.4.7-12)

2001-08-09 Thread Cooker System

During the boot (I *hate* Aurora BTW), I got the following two errors...

fs type supermount not supported by kernel

couldn't insmod /lib/modules/2.4.7-12mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/sb.o.gz

Attempted to fire up the sound afterward by shelling to root and running 
sndconfig returned the following...

Quote:
The following error occurred running the modprobe program:
 
/lib/modules/2.4.7-12mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/sb.o.gz:
init_module: No such device
/lib/modules/2.4.7-12mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/sb.o.gz: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.7-12mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/sb.o.gz failed
/lib/modules/2.4.7-12mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/sb.o.gz: insmod
sound-slot-0 failed
End quote.

It's a ESS1868 sound card.




[Cooker] Issues in fresh Cooker install Aug 9, 2001 (users listed in KDM)

2001-08-09 Thread Cooker System

Every account was showing up in the graphical login, not just root and wokan.




Re: [Cooker] Issues in fresh Cooker install Aug 9, 2001 (gpa)

2001-08-09 Thread Cooker System

I meant fresh, not free, in the original subject line.  (Insert foot, echo 
internationally.)

On Wednesday 08 August 2001 05:47 pm, you wrote:
 During the install of packages, I received the following (at 15 seconds
 remaining)...
 There was an error installing packages:
 gpa-0.4.1-2mdk.i586
 Go on anyway?

 I did, and Cooker did boot.  Checking my local mirror shows no sign of any
 gpa packages.




Re: [Cooker] kernel install issues

2001-08-09 Thread Pedro Rosa

Well, adding some data to this fire, I  just upgraded to kernel-2.4.7-11 
and links were correctly made. However, the install process seems to 
need of perl-MDK-Common to reload LILO. Well, first perl couldn't find 
some *.pm of this package (yes, I installed it). Second, it started to 
cry wild that it couldn't find what bootloader I had (Grub btw). Well, I 
have a manually redacted menu list to avoid surprises and have an 
nearly all-weather boot process. Boot went smooth and the kernel is 
working perfectly the last 12 hours.

As a matter of fact it is a lot easier to use grub if you know it. At 
least, it a lot much easier to forget checking up the boot 
process/scripts before you boot a new kernel. 

Ektanoor

SI Reasoning wrote:

I have had this problem with every kernel upgrade

[...]








Re: [Cooker] mc with RPM 4

2001-08-09 Thread Grégoire Colbert

Blue Lizard wrote:
 
 When you tap it, watch in stdout what command mc calls (not sure if it
 still echos).  Like, pick a pack, press enter, enter on install or
 upgrade, and look at d command.  look around /usr/lib/mc/.  I love
 midnight commander.  extfs gets messed up sometimes though when big
 upgrade of something.  like ucpio or some...

Sorry, lack of investigation! In fact, you can achieve the result I want 
by pressing Enter above the CONTENTS.cpio file. Then I can see with F3 
the content of any file, just like before. Thank you.

Grégoire
-- 
Any smoothly functionning technology will have the appearance of magic.
-- Arthur C. Clarke





RE: [Cooker] kernel install issues

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

 
 Well, adding some data to this fire, I  just upgraded to
kernel-2.4.7-11
 and links were correctly made. However, the install process seems to
 need of perl-MDK-Common to reload LILO. 

Perl-MDK-common is required by drakxtools since a couple of builds back


Well, first perl couldn't find
 some *.pm of this package (yes, I installed it). 

Yes, mcc is badly broken as of now. I have not yet checked the latest
build (1.1.6-2mdk) but previous is no go.

Second, it started to
 cry wild that it couldn't find what bootloader I had (Grub btw). 


Looks like outdated initscripts. /proc/partitions changed due to devfs. 

 
 As a matter of fact it is a lot easier to use grub if you know it. At
 least, it a lot much easier to forget checking up the boot
 process/scripts before you boot a new kernel.


Does grub finally work reliably on reiser with tail conversion? Last
time I tried it cried loudly that stage2 is not sector-aligned.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why Linux sucks...

2001-08-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Ainsi parlait Pixel :
 the pb is not to provide it. The pb is isn't it too powerful?. There's is
 already 2 simple ways to have minimal install:
 - unselect XFree86-libs
 - load from floppy an empty file
I could be wrong, but as installer doesn't ask confirmation for X 
configuration now, X get installed whatever your initial selection.

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Re: [Cooker] samba in 8.0 is messed up

2001-08-09 Thread S N

This is on 8.0


--- Sylvestre Taburet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
 S N wrote:
 
  Cooker,
  
  I'm trying to install samba on my computer. I've
 been
  SUing to DrakConf then to software manager. I've
 been
  following the advise of Mandrake Campus to
 install. It
  says to install samba-client, then samba, then
  samba-common. Both samba client and samba install
  without a problem. When I try to install
 samba-common
  it won't install. I can start the smb service but
 I
  can't start the swat service. Probably because
  samba-common wouldn't install.
  
  I tried again as root to install the same problem
 with
  samba-common (Unfortunately, some packages were
 not
  installed due to some errors) is the error message
 I'm
  getting.
  
  
  This might be fixed already.
  
  Shad
  
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 What version of samba?
 on which distro? 8.0? cooker?
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Re: [Cooker] samba in 8.0 is messed up

2001-08-09 Thread S N

Mostly because I don't know how to include log errors.
Otherwise I would. Maybe if you have a 8.0 computer
you can install and test it out. sorry if I'm not
helping, I'm trying...

Shad

--- Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (S N) writes:
 
  Cooker,
  
  I'm trying to install samba on my computer. I've
 been
  SUing to DrakConf then to software manager. I've
 been
  following the advise of Mandrake Campus to
 install. It
  says to install samba-client, then samba, then
  samba-common. Both samba client and samba install
  without a problem. When I try to install
 samba-common
  it won't install. I can start the smb service but
 I
  can't start the swat service. Probably because
  samba-common wouldn't install.
  
  I tried again as root to install the same problem
 with
  samba-common (Unfortunately, some packages were
 not
  installed due to some errors) is the error message
 I'm
  getting.
  
  
  This might be fixed already.
  
  Shad 
 
 what's the use of writing such messages without
 giving any log errors ?
 
 -- 
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[Cooker] vim missing help file

2001-08-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse

vim help refers to a missing pi_spec.txt (the spec file plugin help file). Is 
this a packaging error ?
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[Cooker] 8.1 to come without firewall (Bastille)?

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej


 
 Ainsi parlait Frederic Lepied :
 [..]
  * Thu Aug 09 2001 Frederic Lepied [EMAIL PROTECTED]
0.15-18mdk
 
  - added vc/[1-6] to securetty (devfs)
  - merged back in cvs
 
 Wasn't msec scheduled to be merged with BastilleLinux, and this latest
to
 become official Mandrake security manager ?

May be. Just now Bastille does not  start in cooker at all. It was
reported several time, the fix (to start it I mean) is one-liner patch
that was sent to cooker as well.

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install]

2001-08-09 Thread Grégoire Colbert

(This message seems lost -- I repost a better version)

Thierry Vignaud wrote:

  we do offer a lot of choice (this is a free world); that
  is different than being a fat/slow distro.

Thanks for your message. I understand your point of view. That's a good 
start.

My original idea about the Minimal install is that it would be a 
guided and *precise* installation. OK : I hate the percentage of 
applications thing. It sounds like How many kilos of food do you 
want?. It seems that the installation does not focus on features, but 
on the idea that the bigger, the better.

(...)
  But this is Mandrake's role to choose the most useful tools, no? Or 
  those who have the best ratio 'features/size', in the particular
  Minimal install case.
 
  the minimal install is an install where you've got everything to allow
  the system to boot, having configured hardware, network, ...

Hmmm, it depends what you consider minimal. My definition is :
   Given a task for the machine, install the applications that provide 
the most features in the minimum space.

I personnally dislike to get 5 GUI text editors. Nedit is the best 
choice for what I do (it has a lot of simple yet powerful options, like 
rectangular selections), but if you install Emacs by default, I would 
know that I simply have *one* to delete.

Your definition is : install what the machine requires to boot with 
full hardware support. This is a good option too, only different.

Then what about mixing both our ideas, like this :

  - Choose class of installation:
  * Desktop
  * Server
  * ...
  * Minimal (what you need to boot and install apps yourself)
// This is your vision

and after the choice of the class of installation, say Desktop :
  * Let me select packages myself (like in 8.0)
  * Provide me with the most useful tools (== what I want)
// And this is mine

What do you all think of this?

Grégoire





RE: [Cooker] openssh-client

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

Which is absolutely unnecessary to be able run mcc or any other drak
tool. They su anyway.

-andrej

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:cooker-owner@linux-
 mandrake.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Mullaley
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 3:17 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [Cooker] openssh-client
 
 If you merely had a terminal open and tried to run anything X, it
should
 have failed. As your normal user, do a 'xhost + localhost', then su to
 root.
 After that you need to export your DISPLAY variable ('export
 DISPLAY=:0.0').
 At that point your root terminal session has the ability to run X apps
on
 your local users desktop.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Patrick
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
Of
 Joal Heagney
 Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2001 7:02 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Cooker] openssh-client
 
 
 Florin wrote:
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (S N) writes:
 
   Cooker,
  
   In 8.0 the only way to install openssh-client is to
   install as root. I tried SUing and then DrakConf but I
   couldn't install.
  
   When I logged on and installed as root it
   openssh-client worked.
  
   This might be fixed already.
  
   Shad
 
  usually, one can install packages only as root ...
  --
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 But not everyone operates their X-interface as root, prefering to
 operate as normal user, and dropping into root through a su-ed
terminal
 in order to do system administration.
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[Cooker] Installer loops due to dirty filesystem

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

4Linux version 2.4.7-BOOT4 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version
egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release / Linux-Mandrake 8.1))
#1 Sat Aug 4 21:25:13 CEST 2001
...
4JFS development version: $Name: v1_0_2 $
6Adding Swap: 248968k swap-space (priority -1)
4jfs_mount: Mount Failure: File System Dirty.
4Mount JFS Failure: 22
4jfs_mount failed w/return code = 22
 (repeated several times)
...
* starting step `formatPartitions'
* swapon called with hda6
* mounting /dev/hda7 on /mnt/ as type jfs
* calling mount(/dev/hda7, /mnt, jfs, -1058209792, )
* warning: mount failed: Invalid argument at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm
line 247.
* starting step `doPartitionDisks'
* getFile XXX:
* calling umount(/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /tmp/hdimage: Device or resource busy at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* calling umount(/mnt/proc)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/proc: No such file or directory at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* unmounting all filesystems
* calling umount(/mnt/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/tmp/hdimage: No such file or directory
at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* unmounting all filesystems
* calling umount(/mnt/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/tmp/hdimage: No such file or directory
at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* warning: bad magic number at
/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31.
* found a dos partition table on /dev/hda at sector 0
* test_for_bad_drives(/dev/hda)
* mounting hda7 on /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir as type jfs
* calling mount(/dev/hda7, /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir, jfs, 3236757505, )
* reading fstab
* calling umount(/tmp/inspect_tmp_dir)
* step `doPartitionDisks' finished
* starting step `formatPartitions'
* swapon called with hda6
* mounting /dev/hda7 on /mnt/ as type jfs
* calling mount(/dev/hda7, /mnt, jfs, -1058209792, )
* warning: mount failed: Invalid argument at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm
line 247.
* starting step `doPartitionDisks'
* getFile XXX:
* calling umount(/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /tmp/hdimage: Device or resource busy at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* calling umount(/mnt/proc)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/proc: No such file or directory at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* unmounting all filesystems
* calling umount(/mnt/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/tmp/hdimage: No such file or directory
at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* unmounting all filesystems
* calling umount(/mnt/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/tmp/hdimage: No such file or directory
at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* warning: bad magic number at
/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31.
* found a dos partition table on /dev/hda at sector 0
* test_for_bad_drives(/dev/hda)
* mounting hda7 on /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir as type jfs
* calling mount(/dev/hda7, /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir, jfs, 3236757505, )
* reading fstab
* calling umount(/tmp/inspect_tmp_dir)
* step `doPartitionDisks' finished
* starting step `formatPartitions'
* swapon called with hda6
* mounting /dev/hda7 on /mnt/ as type jfs
* calling mount(/dev/hda7, /mnt, jfs, -1058209792, )
* warning: mount failed: Invalid argument at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm
line 247.
* starting step `doPartitionDisks'
* getFile XXX:
* calling umount(/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /tmp/hdimage: Device or resource busy at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* calling umount(/mnt/proc)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/proc: No such file or directory at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* unmounting all filesystems
* calling umount(/mnt/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/tmp/hdimage: No such file or directory
at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* unmounting all filesystems
* calling umount(/mnt/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/tmp/hdimage: No such file or directory
at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* warning: bad magic number at
/usr/bin/perl-install/partition_table_empty.pm line 31.
* found a dos partition table on /dev/hda at sector 0
* test_for_bad_drives(/dev/hda)
* mounting hda7 on /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir as type jfs
* calling mount(/dev/hda7, /tmp/inspect_tmp_dir, jfs, 3236757505, )
* reading fstab
* calling umount(/tmp/inspect_tmp_dir)
* step `doPartitionDisks' finished
* starting step `formatPartitions'
* swapon called with hda6
* mounting /dev/hda7 on /mnt/ as type jfs
* calling mount(/dev/hda7, /mnt, jfs, -1058209792, )
* warning: mount failed: Invalid argument at /usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm
line 247.
* starting step `doPartitionDisks'
* getFile XXX:
* calling umount(/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /tmp/hdimage: Device or resource busy at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* calling umount(/mnt/proc)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/proc: No such file or directory at
/usr/bin/perl-install/fs.pm line 259.
* unmounting all filesystems
* calling umount(/mnt/tmp/hdimage)
* warning: error unmounting /mnt/tmp/hdimage: No such file or directory
at 

[Cooker] still no nessus 1.0.9 and snort 1.8 in contribs

2001-08-09 Thread Mads Rasmussen


Anyone is working on rpms for nessus 1.0.9 and snort 1.8?

If not, what does it take to do a rpm? Is there a howto?

Regards,

Mads




Re: [Cooker] still no nessus 1.0.9 and snort 1.8 in contribs

2001-08-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Ainsi parlait Mads Rasmussen :
 Anyone is working on rpms for nessus 1.0.9 and snort 1.8?

 If not, what does it take to do a rpm? Is there a howto?

A great one: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/howtos/mdk-rpm/index.html
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Re: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install]

2001-08-09 Thread Grégoire Colbert

(This message seems lost -- I repost it for the third time :()

Thierry Vignaud wrote:

  we do offer a lot of choice (this is a free world); that
  is different than being a fat/slow distro.

Thanks for your message. I understand your point of view. That's a good 
start.

My original idea about the Minimal install is that it would be a 
guided and *precise* installation. OK : I hate the percentage of 
applications thing. It sounds like How many kilos of food do you 
want?. It seems that the installation does not focus on features, but 
on the idea that the bigger, the better.

(...)
  But this is Mandrake's role to choose the most useful tools, no? Or 
  those who have the best ratio 'features/size', in the particular
  Minimal install case.
 
  the minimal install is an install where you've got everything to allow
  the system to boot, having configured hardware, network, ...

Hmmm, it depends what you consider minimal. My definition is :
   Given a task for the machine, install the applications that provide 
the most features in the minimum space.

I personnally dislike to get 5 GUI text editors. Nedit is the best 
choice for what I do (it has a lot of simple yet powerful options, like 
rectangular selections), but if you install Emacs by default, I would 
know that I simply have *one* to delete.

Your definition is : install what the machine requires to boot with 
full hardware support. This is a good option too, only different.

Then what about mixing both our ideas, like this :

  - Choose class of installation:
  * Desktop
  * Server
  * ...
  * Minimal (what you need to boot and install apps yourself)
// This is your vision

and after the choice of the class of installation, say Desktop :
  * Let me select packages myself (like in 8.0)
  * Provide me with the most useful tools (== what I want)
// And this is mine

What do you all think of this?

Grégoire






Re: [Cooker] still no nessus 1.0.9 and snort 1.8 in contribs

2001-08-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse

Ainsi parlait Mads Rasmussen :
 On Thursday 09 August 2001 11:20, you wrote:
  Ainsi parlait Mads Rasmussen :
   Anyone is working on rpms for nessus 1.0.9 and snort 1.8?
  
   If not, what does it take to do a rpm? Is there a howto?
 
  A great one: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/howtos/mdk-rpm/index.html

 Yeah I'm reading this as we speak, but I realized there is a spec file for
 snort1.8p1 on the snort site so it wouldn't take much to create a rpm for
 that.

 Who is the maintainer of snort?
[root@silbermann schema]# rpm -qip 
ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/snort-1.7-1mdk.i586.rpm
Name: snortRelocations: /usr
[..]
Packager: Florin Grad [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Cooker] Strange kernel 2.4.7-10mdk problem -- can't surf the web (SOLVED)

2001-08-09 Thread msh

Your suggestion worked.  I can now surf the web. 

Thanks.  

Also how did you figure out the solution?  I've searched all the
documentation I can think of and non of it contains the string tcp_ecn.

P.S.
The other problems I was having with nfs and ssh (that I mentioned in
one of my posts under the subject Strange kernel 2.4.7-10mdk... ) turned
out to be caused by portsentry adding the my machine IP address
(192.168.0.5) to the /etc/hosts.deny file of the machine I was trying to
ssh into (192.168.0.7).

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
 
 Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  kk1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
[root@b5 msh]# sysctl -a|grep ecn
net.ipv4.tcp_ecn = 1
[root@b5 msh]#
  
   Going to spare one to Chmou.
 
  why? ecn is now a standard.
 
 but all sites are not yet upgraded..




Re: [Cooker] YAIR (Yet Another Installation Report - 09/08/2001)

2001-08-09 Thread Claudio

On Thursday 09 August 2001 17:43, Yves Duret wrote:
 Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  traceroute i'm fixing that. (since all cookerers are traceroute fanatics
  apparently)

 tracepath is installed by default and it is _really_ better than traceroute
 wich is a bit deprecated..

nslookup is deprecated...
traceroute is deprecated...
for 8.2 we shall find a sobstitute for ping too  =;p
C.




[Cooker] bad doc file location

2001-08-09 Thread Guillaume Rousse

[guillaume@silbermann osis]$ rpm -qd apache-conf
/usr/share/doc/README.apache-conf
Should be in /usr/share/doc/apache-conf instead
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[Cooker] icewm-gnome execution script failure

2001-08-09 Thread Frederik Himpe

Hello,

I just installed the new icewm packages on my mandrake8/cooker mixture, and I got this 
error:

icewm-gnome ##
ln: cannot create symbolic link 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/themes/tile/taskbar/windows.xpm' to 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/taskbar/windows.xpm': No such file or directory
ln: cannot create symbolic link 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/themes/tile/taskbar/linux.xpm' to 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/taskbar/linux.xpm': No such file or directory
execution of icewm-gnome-1.0.9-0.pre1.2mdk script failed, exit status 1

Frederik Himpe





[Cooker] Videolan!

2001-08-09 Thread Claudio

From www.videolan.org:
Latest news headlines 
Release: vlc 0.2.82  (7 aug 2001)

We have 0.2.80 that -seen the changelog- is very buggy.
Is it possible to upgrade to the latest version before beta1?
Claudio





[Cooker] Diff-ing (2)

2001-08-09 Thread Grégoire Colbert

I got the following:

+ echo 'Patch #0 (pwm-1.0-patch.bz2):'
Patch #0 (pwm-1.0-patch.bz2):
+ /usr/bin/bzip2 -d
+ patch -p1 -s
missing header for unified diff at line 3 of patch
The text leading up to this was:
--
|--- system.mk  Sat Jul  1 14:37:50 2000
|+++ system.mk.patchThu Aug  9 18:05:06 2001
--
File to patch:



Grégoire







RE: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why Linux sucks...

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

Just remember to make it newt and cmdline urpmi and such, that is the whole point of 
this thread from start.
 
 Yes, Yes, YES!
 
 -andrej
 





Re: [Cooker] [idea of new package] PWM

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

On 09 Aug 2001 14:37:43 +0200, Grégoire Colbert wrote:
 Hello,
 
 What about including PWM in Cooker? It is a lightweight window manager, 
 yet quite powerful with a very clever all windows in one frame 
 feature. It loads up very fast too. Check out:
 http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/
 
 It is better than twm as a basic window manager, imho.
 
 Grégoire
 
 PS : I did not receive my previous message!?!
 
 

Like blackbox?  I like blackbox.  Just need the 'E' vers of icobox to
add in and you set.  I think I'll check this out.  (blackbox development
will severely stagnate until the two heads find someone to take over, as
they have other jobs).




Re: [Cooker] [idea of new package] PWM

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

On 09 Aug 2001 14:37:43 +0200, Grégoire Colbert wrote:
 Hello,
 
 What about including PWM in Cooker? It is a lightweight window manager, 
 yet quite powerful with a very clever all windows in one frame 
 feature. It loads up very fast too. Check out:
 http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/
 
 It is better than twm as a basic window manager, imho.
 
 Grégoire
 
 PS : I did not receive my previous message!?!
 
 

Could you please upload the already created mdk srpm to /incoming for
contribs?  It'll be built against current cooker i understand.  If you
are puzzled, check the Malison link for mdk rpms.




Re: [Cooker] Issues in fresh Cooker install Aug 9, 2001 (userslisted in KDM)

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

On 08 Aug 2001 18:27:35 -0700, Digital Wokan wrote:
 Every account was showing up in the graphical login, not just root and wokan.
 

kdmrc problem, being worked on.  not _all_ are listed, just qmail and
dns and stuff that weren't listed as noshow in conf.  Should set to show
_selected_ and not all but selected in kdmrc and mdk scripts should add
the username there on (userdrake is it?)




Re: [Cooker] openoffice menus?

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

I'm lost (as usual).  When I installed the openoffice rpm (from mdk),
under the file listing for rpm's contents, it contained only the setup
files.  So...uh...users cannot use it.  This is a problem, no?  BTW,
make sure you include kaffe (is it?) and/or gcc-javathingy (kaffe
complaint from a while back, prob no longer required) as dependencies
for staroffice.




[Cooker] netscape-4.78 language packs?

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

I still cannot update netscape, because

{pts/1}% sudo urpmi netscape-communicator
To satisfy dependencies, the following packages are going to be 
installed (22 MB):
netscape-common-4.78-2mdk netscape-communicator-4.78-2mdk 
netscape-plugins-4.78-2mdk
Is it ok? (Y/n)
installing 
/mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-plugins-4.78-2mdk.i586.rpm 
/mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-communicator-4.78-2mdk.i586.rpm 
/mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-common-4.78-2mdk.i586.rpm
error: failed dependencies:
 netscape-common = 4.77 is needed by netscape-russian-4.77-2mdk
Installation failed

-andrej




[Cooker] MCC Connection sharing and Firewalling font problem

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

In both cases wizard is using West European font (presumably ISO-8859-1) 
for title but tries to translate in Russian. Result is obviously 
unreadable.

-andrej




[Cooker] drakxtools-1.1.6-2mdk - some items still do not start

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

1. Date/Time:{pts/1}% cat ~/.xsession-errors
Gdk-WARNING **: Creating pixmap from xpm with NULL window and colormap
common is not defined in %common::EXPORT_TAGS at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter/Heavy.pm line 75
 Exporter::heavy_export('common', 'main', ':common', ':file', 
':functional', ':system') called at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter.pm line 45
 Exporter::import('common', ':common', ':file', ':functional', 
':system') called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 main::BEGIN() called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 eval {...} called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
file is not defined in %common::EXPORT_TAGS at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter/Heavy.pm line 75
 Exporter::heavy_export('common', 'main', ':common', ':file', 
':functional', ':system') called at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter.pm line 45
 Exporter::import('common', ':common', ':file', ':functional', 
':system') called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 main::BEGIN() called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 eval {...} called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
functional is not defined in %common::EXPORT_TAGS at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter/Heavy.pm line 75
 Exporter::heavy_export('common', 'main', ':common', ':file', 
':functional', ':system') called at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter.pm line 45
 Exporter::import('common', ':common', ':file', ':functional', 
':system') called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 main::BEGIN() called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 eval {...} called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
system is not defined in %common::EXPORT_TAGS at 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter/Heavy.pm line 75
 Exporter::heavy_export('common', 'main', ':common', ':file', 
':functional', ':system') called at /usr/lib/perl5/5.6.1/Exporter.pm line 45
 Exporter::import('common', ':common', ':file', ':functional', 
':system') called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 main::BEGIN() called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
 eval {...} called at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
Can't continue after import errors at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/sbin/clock.pm line 8.

2. By start of MCC:

  Use of uninitialized value in subroutine entry at 
/usr/X11R6/bin/DrakConf.real line 199, VERS line 1.


3. I could not start network connection first but it looks O.K. the 
second time. Funny.

-andrej





[Cooker] Leftover /lib/modules/`uname -r` after removing kernel RPM

2001-08-09 Thread Borsenkow Andrej

rpm -e kernel leaves /lib/modules/`uname -r` behind:

{pts/1}% l /lib/modules
2.4.5-7mdk/  2.4.5-9mdk/  2.4.6-3mdk/  2.4.6-5mdk/  2.4.7-12mdk/ 
2.4.7-3mdk/
2.4.7-8mdk/

Granted, not a big deal, but is confusing and this boot floppy Drak tool 
lists all these versions as available.

This is because directory is created in preinstall script and not listed 
in RPM filelist. Any reason for this?

-andrej




Re: [Cooker] Diff-ing for an RPM

2001-08-09 Thread Marcel Pol

On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 18:38:08 +0200
Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Argh,
 
 Suppose you have two files : genuine.mk and modified.mk. How do you 
 create a patch for RPM to build? I have tried :
 diff -u genuine.mk modified.mk  mypatch
 Then in the Patch: field I put mypatch, but it asks me What file
to 
 patch during %install. Where am I wrong?

I use diff -uNr
I wouldn't exactly know the difference, i guess the man page could
tell that.

I believe the default place for %patch would be after %setup.
You should fiddle with the -p0 or -p1 option, depending on where in
the directory-tree you are.



--
Marcel Pol
[EMAIL PROTECTED]






Re: [Cooker] Issues in fresh Cooker install Aug 9, 2001 (kernel2.4.7-12)

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

why does ess card need sb (soundblaster) module?  or was this during probe?




Re: [Cooker] YAIR (Yet Another Installation Report - 09/08/2001)

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard


 for 8.2 we shall find a sobstitute for ping too  =;p
 C.
 

woh there.  watch yourself.

(thanks yves, I will try tracepath)




[Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Hello All,

Is there a way to get a minimum distro, maybe something  10Meg, of Mandrake
that just has Xwindows running on it?

I would like to put together the smallest distro of Mandrake that I can find?

Any ideas?



Lonnie Cumberland
OutStep Technologies Incorporated

URL: http://www.outstep.com
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] icewm-gnome execution script failure

2001-08-09 Thread Frederik Himpe

On 09 Aug 2001 19:43:23 +0200, Yves Duret wrote:
 Frederik Himpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I just installed the new icewm packages on my mandrake8/cooker mixture, and I got 
this error:
  
  icewm-gnome ##
  ln: cannot create symbolic link 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/themes/tile/taskbar/windows.xpm' to 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/taskbar/windows.xpm': No such file or directory
  ln: cannot create symbolic link 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/themes/tile/taskbar/linux.xpm' to 
`/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/icewm/taskbar/linux.xpm': No such file or directory
  execution of icewm-gnome-1.0.9-0.pre1.2mdk script failed, exit status 1
 
 quite strange, i can not reproduce here both on my work box and on my test
 box..
 can you give the output of rpm -qa | grep ice ?
 yves

[root@Jupiter Software]# rpm -qa | grep ice
common-licenses-1.0-4mdk
icepref-1.1-4mdk
icewm-gnome-1.0.9-0.pre1.2mdk
koffice-1.1-0.rc1.2mdk
icewm-1.0.9-0.pre1.2mdk
icewm-light-1.0.9-0.pre1.2mdk
[root@Jupiter Software]#

Frederik





Re: [Cooker] Diff-ing for an RPM

2001-08-09 Thread andre

 
 On Thu, 09 Aug 2001 18:38:08 +0200
 Grégoire Colbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Argh,
  
  Suppose you have two files : genuine.mk and modified.mk. How do you 
  create a patch for RPM to build? I have tried :
  diff -u genuine.mk modified.mk  mypatch
  Then in the Patch: field I put mypatch, but it asks me What file
 to 
  patch during %install. Where am I wrong?
 
 I use diff -uNr
 I wouldn't exactly know the difference, i guess the man page could
 tell that.
 
 I believe the default place for %patch would be after %setup.
 You should fiddle with the -p0 or -p1 option, depending on where in
 the directory-tree you are.
 
 
 
If a may ask a stupid question:where do you find what %setup (and
other%) does?




Re: [Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread andre

 
 Hello All,
 
 Is there a way to get a minimum distro, maybe something  10Meg, of Mandrake
 that just has Xwindows running on it?
 
 I would like to put together the smallest distro of Mandrake that I can find?
 
 Any ideas?
 
 
Kernel-rpm is already 8Meg. Don't think you are going to fit it in 10Meg




Re: [Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Actually, larger than 10Meg is also fine.

I just wanted to find the most stripped down, ans smallest, version of Mandrake
that I could and also one that would only have Xwindows installed even without
the window manager if possible.

I want to be able to add all of the specific applications that I wanted and not
have all of the apps that I generally do not use in there as well.

---Lonnie

Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 
  Hello All,
 
  Is there a way to get a minimum distro, maybe something  10Meg, of
 Mandrake
  that just has Xwindows running on it?
 
  I would like to put together the smallest distro of Mandrake that I
 can find?
 
  Any ideas?
 
 
 Kernel-rpm is already 8Meg. Don't think you are going to fit it in
 10Meg





Lonnie Cumberland
OutStep Technologies Incorporated

URL: http://www.outstep.com
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread Mordechai Ovits

On Thursday 09 August 2001 02:30, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 Hello All,

 Is there a way to get a minimum distro, maybe something  10Meg, of
 Mandrake that just has Xwindows running on it?

Look at jailbait: http://sourceforge.net/projects/jailbait/

Less than 16 MB w/ X and more

Mordy
-- 
Mordy Ovits   Give a man a fish, he owes you one fish. 
Network Engineer   Teach a man to fish, and you give up
Bloomberg L.P.   your monopoly on fisheries.




[Cooker] Rpm problems (resent cuz my isp sux)

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

During cooker fresh install and after get error messages from rpm like
rpmdb: Packages: Unexpected file type or format, Packages: unknown
file format: 0x35, and the like.  There are a couple other messages
that say the same thing.  It all started when...
Main install: okay
Network conf: okay (incl install of dhcpcd)
Summary:
okay
okay
okay
No printer
So I click around installing CUPS and of course nowadays there are 20
packages that must be downloaded and installed.  About 4 from the end
(let's see, printer-filters, foomatic, perl-XML-something, and i think
another perl thing) it gives the error messages about invalid Packages
index.  Skip on to X, dont work still cuz of unable to install, reboot
hoping i can xfdrake from console, get there, still dont work cuz
Packages invalid, kick the box a little, still wont work, send you a
mail, reboot, mail never arrived so a send it again, kick the box to get
the fan going again, click sen




[Cooker] RPM failure in MDK freq 3?

2001-08-09 Thread Mads Rasmussen


Anyone knows of failures in the rpm that comes with Freq3?

rpm-4.0-26mdk
rpmtools-2.3-23mdk
rpmlint-0.30-1mdk
rpm-build-4.0-26mdk

I have a problem when building a rpm (first time so it's possibly me doing 
something wrong) with the %prep part.
When doing a rpm -bi specfile it inserts a ^M at the last line of the prep 
script so that it exits with error and doesn't start to build.

Anyone have seen that before in Freq3 and knows how to handle it?

Maybe it would be better building rpms using a MDK8 clean system?

Regards,

Mads





[Cooker] limiting access

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Hi All,

The small distro link was exactly what I think that I am look for. I will
investigate it further.

I know that you can change permissions on directories to prevent a user from
entering a specific directory tree, but is there a way to prevent a user from
exiting out of a specific directory?

For example, is there a way to prevent the users from leaving their own home
directories?

Thanks Again,
Lonnie


Lonnie Cumberland
OutStep Technologies Incorporated

URL: http://www.outstep.com
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] [idea of new package] PWM

2001-08-09 Thread Grégoire Colbert

Blue Lizard wrote:
 On 09 Aug 2001 14:37:43 +0200, Grégoire Colbert wrote:
 
Hello,

What about including PWM in Cooker? It is a lightweight window manager, 
yet quite powerful with a very clever all windows in one frame 
feature. It loads up very fast too. Check out:
http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/

It is better than twm as a basic window manager, imho.

Grégoire

PS : I did not receive my previous message!?!

 Could you please upload the already created mdk srpm to /incoming for
 contribs?  It'll be built against current cooker i understand.  If you
 are puzzled, check the Malison link for mdk rpms.
 

I grab that file already, but it is not at all a Mandrake compliant Mdk: 
the files get installed in /usr/local. Please let me finish my own RPM, 
I would like to do this myself... I admit that two years without making 
a RPM does not help!

Grégoire






Re: [Cooker] ReiserFS killed my /var

2001-08-09 Thread Nima S. Panahi

I have had mixed results. I tried to keep my mouth shut during the whole
thread, but I can't any longer. I experimented with Reiser since 7.2. All
it did was each my paritions and I think the VIA bug has something to do
with it. But this was not a rare occation, it ate my /home and /var
multiple times and on different machines (all three had some VIA chipset
as I only use AMD). Then, the newer Reiser version cameout and changing
the paritions to those helped but I still saw problems where it reported a
directory to have 2 gigs of data in it when I only had 400 megs!
I must have been smoking something, because for my server, I went all
ReiserFS with the latest 8.0. I was doing a switch from the old server to
a new one and in the excitement I forgot about my ReiserFS problems. I
almost switch back as soon as I realized what I had done. However, I just
bited down and did regular backups waiting for when it went south. IT
NEVER DID! I hope I am not talking too soon, but for a few months it has
been running w/o any problems. I would still waite for it to mature more
or use XFS, which I have used in many of my desktops. IMHO anyways...

On Wed, 8 Aug 2001, Harry wrote:

 On 8/6/01 2:04 AM, Stefan Siegel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Since then I don't trust ReiserFS = I wouldn't install it
  currently on a critical system, only on playgounds for data loosing ...

 Depending on the nature of your electrical failure, no data is really safe
 if it is preceded by a spike while the drive writes to the disk. In general,
 I have found Reiserfs to be admirably reliable.

 Harry







Re: [Cooker] limiting access

2001-08-09 Thread Mordechai Ovits

On Thursday 09 August 2001 04:18, you wrote:
 I know that you can change permissions on directories to prevent a user
 from entering a specific directory tree, but is there a way to prevent a
 user from exiting out of a specific directory?

No, not really.  There's something called chroot, but it wont do what you 
want.  Think about it:  If they cant leave their home dir, how would they run 
things in /usr/bin ?

 For example, is there a way to prevent the users from leaving their own
 home directories?

Please clarify what you mean by leave?  Do you not want them to be able to 
see the contents of ANY other directory?  And why?!?!? 

Mordy
-- 
Mordy Ovits   Give a man a fish, he owes you one fish. 
Network Engineer   Teach a man to fish, and you give up
Bloomberg L.P.   your monopoly on fisheries.




Re: [Cooker] netscape-4.78 language packs?

2001-08-09 Thread R.I.P. Deaddog

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Borsenkow Andrej wrote:

 /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-plugins-4.78-2mdk.i586.rpm
 /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-communicator-4.78-2mdk.i586.rpm
 /mnt/hd/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/netscape-common-4.78-2mdk.i586.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
  netscape-common = 4.77 is needed by netscape-russian-4.77-2mdk
 Installation failed

Well, this is the proof people are abandoning netscape 4 :)

Abel





Re: [Cooker] limiting access

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Well, I was just thinking back to the days of Novell and seem to remember that
when a user logged in, they were mapped into their own user space and generally
did not have access to other areas.

I though that this was a nice security issue.

Also, the users could run applications by having a local bin link and path
setting.

I was just playing with some ideas and wanted to investigate them.

Cheers,
Lonnie

Quoting Mordechai Ovits [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 On Thursday 09 August 2001 04:18, you wrote:
  I know that you can change permissions on directories to prevent a
 user
  from entering a specific directory tree, but is there a way to prevent
 a
  user from exiting out of a specific directory?

 No, not really.  There's something called chroot, but it wont do what
 you
 want.  Think about it:  If they cant leave their home dir, how would
 they run
 things in /usr/bin ?

  For example, is there a way to prevent the users from leaving their
 own
  home directories?

 Please clarify what you mean by leave?  Do you not want them to be able
 to
 see the contents of ANY other directory?  And why?!?!?

 Mordy
 --
 Mordy Ovits   Give a man a fish, he owes you one fish.
 Network Engineer   Teach a man to fish, and you give up
 Bloomberg L.P.   your monopoly on fisheries.





Lonnie Cumberland
OutStep Technologies Incorporated

URL: http://www.outstep.com
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

This sound interesting

Is this 115Meg size distro part of the current Mandrake install?

Also, if so then is there a way to find out a list of the rpms that are
installed with this distro.

cheers,
Lonnnie

Quoting Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Actually, larger than 10Meg is also fine.
 
  I just wanted to find the most stripped down, ans smallest, version of
 Mandrake
  that I could and also one that would only have Xwindows installed even
 without
  the window manager if possible.

 the minimum is quite big: 115MB (i also added rxvt)
 (a window manager is included as twm is in XFree86 package)

 far from 10MB for sure.

 PS: around 10MB could be removed by removing GL and DRI stuff from
 XFree86...





Lonnie Cumberland
OutStep Technologies Incorporated

URL: http://www.outstep.com
EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 : [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] limiting access

2001-08-09 Thread menola_rh

Sure... remove their mouse and keyboard :)

-jm

On Thursday 09 August 2001 03:18 pm, you wrote:
 Hi All,

 The small distro link was exactly what I think that I am look for. I will
 investigate it further.

 I know that you can change permissions on directories to prevent a user
 from entering a specific directory tree, but is there a way to prevent a
 user from exiting out of a specific directory?

 For example, is there a way to prevent the users from leaving their own
 home directories?

 Thanks Again,
 Lonnie

 
 Lonnie Cumberland
 OutStep Technologies Incorporated

 URL: http://www.outstep.com
 EMAIL: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

  : [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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Re: [Cooker] YAIR (Yet Another Installation Report - 09/08/2001)

2001-08-09 Thread Digital Wokan

Perhaps a symlink from traceroute to tracepath?  Or would that confuse
people too much who want traceroute and not just traceroute
functionality?

Claudio wrote:
 
 On Thursday 09 August 2001 17:43, Yves Duret wrote:
  Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   traceroute i'm fixing that. (since all cookerers are traceroute fanatics
   apparently)
 
  tracepath is installed by default and it is _really_ better than traceroute
  wich is a bit deprecated..
 
 nslookup is deprecated...
 traceroute is deprecated...
 for 8.2 we shall find a sobstitute for ping too  =;p
 C.




Re: [Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Wow this is it!!!

Now for the dumb question, ok.

Where can I get this and do an install to test it out for myself?

Cheers,
Lonnie

Quoting Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  This sound interesting
 
  Is this 115Meg size distro part of the current Mandrake install?

 yep (i've just tested it)

 
  Also, if so then is there a way to find out a list of the rpms that
 are
  installed with this distro.

 yep, here it is:

 ash autologin bash bdflush bzip2 chkconfig common-licenses
 console-tools
 cracklib cracklib-dicts db1 dev devfsd diffutils dynamic e2fsprogs
 etcskel
 filesystem fileutils gcc3.0-cpp gettext-base getty_ps glibc grep
 groff-for-man
 grub gzip hdparm info info-install initscripts iputils isapnptools
 kernel
 ldconfig libbzip2_1 libext2fs2 libglib1.2 libgpm1 libintl1 libnewt0.50
 libslang1 libstdc++2.10 libtermcap2 libutempter0 lilo locales
 locales-en
 logrotate losetup man mandrake-release menu Mesa-common mkinitrd
 mktemp
 modutils mount msec nfs-utils-clients ntsysv passwd perl-MDK-Common
 popt
 portmap procps psmisc pwdb rootfiles rpm rxvt sed shadow-utils
 sh-utils
 syslinux SysVinit tar termcap textutils tmpwatch utempter util-linux
 vim-minimal which XFree86 XFree86-libs XFree86-server XFree86-xfs
 xinitrc
 zlib1

 % rpm -qa --qf %{size} %{name}\n | sort -n | tail
  1935133 console-tools
  2259994 util-linux
  3640938 locales
  3801150 menu
  4080134 rpm
  5706048 XFree86-libs
 13317224 kernel
 16168021 glibc
 18247825 XFree86
 21475298 XFree86-server

 (but beware, rpm size  installed size due to %lang tagged files)





Lonnie Cumberland
OutStep Technologies Incorporated

URL: http://www.outstep.com
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Re: [Cooker] Issues in fresh Cooker install Aug 9, 2001 (kernel2.4.7-12)

2001-08-09 Thread Digital Wokan

I don't know why it uses the sb module.  It just always has.  It's done
so since at least Mandrake 6.0 as far as I can remember.  Maybe I've got
something on it set for SoundBlaster compatibility.

I'm not trying to use sb.o.gz manually, that's what the sndconfig
program is trying to use and what the installer set up for booting as
well.

Blue Lizard wrote:
 why does ess card need sb (soundblaster) module?  or was this during probe?




Re: [Cooker] limiting access

2001-08-09 Thread Mordechai Ovits

On Thursday 09 August 2001 04:53, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 Well, I was just thinking back to the days of Novell and seem to remember
 that when a user logged in, they were mapped into their own user space and
 generally did not have access to other areas.

you could eset up your linux box to have that proprty.  I dont recommend it 
though.

 I though that this was a nice security issue.

Not really.  Being able to see what's in /usr/bin doesnt really open secirty 
holes.  It does ruin the security aspect called unpredictability.

 Also, the users could run applications by having a local bin link and
 path setting.

No, because links would resolve to directory the user cant access.

 I was just playing with some ideas and wanted to investigate them.

Try this:
-
[movits@movitslinux movits]$ su
Password:
[root@movitslinux movits]# cd /
[root@movitslinux /]# mkdir /test
[root@movitslinux /]# chmod 771 /test
[root@movitslinux /]# cp /usr/bin/tree /test/
[root@movitslinux /]# ls -l|grep test
drwxrwx--x2 root root 4096 Aug  9 17:43 test/
[root@movitslinux /]# exit
[movits@movitslinux movits]$ cd /test
[movits@movitslinux /test]$ ls
ls: .: Permission denied
[movits@movitslinux /test]$ ./tree /

[SNIPPED LONG OUTPUT]
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Understand it?

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Re: [Cooker] netscape-4.78 language packs?

2001-08-09 Thread Stefan Siegel

Hello Pablo,

Es schrieb Borsenkow Andrej:
 
 I still cannot update netscape [to netscape-4.78], because
 [...]
 error: failed dependencies:
  netscape-common = 4.77 is needed by netscape-russian-4.77-2mdk

I've just uploaded a new german version to ftp.linux-mandrake.com/incoming/
(netscape-german-4.78-2mdk.src.rpm). 

Could you please rebuild it?

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Re: [Cooker] limiting access

2001-08-09 Thread Atha Kouroussis

You can run their shell in restricted mode. If the user's shell is bash then 
the restricted counterpart is rbash or bash -r. The user wont be able the 
move outside his home dir. For more info see the man page.

Cheers,
Atha

On August 9, 2001 04:18 pm, you wrote:
 Hi All,

 The small distro link was exactly what I think that I am look for. I will
 investigate it further.

 I know that you can change permissions on directories to prevent a user
 from entering a specific directory tree, but is there a way to prevent a
 user from exiting out of a specific directory?

 For example, is there a way to prevent the users from leaving their own
 home directories?

 Thanks Again,
 Lonnie

 
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[Cooker] moderated cooker mailinglist

2001-08-09 Thread Han

Hi, 

Is it an idea to start moderating this list. Or just have the policy
not to reply to 8.0 support questions. It's about 50% off all the
messages and they do get answered.

Cya, Han.




Re: [Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Please forgive my lack of knowledge in this area as I am new to using Cooker
and am not clear on how to proceed.

I have made a clear partition, /dev/hde6, on my existing Mandrake-Linux 7.2
system and have downloaded the network.img and put it on a blank disk.

Now I looked on there and did not see the auto_inst.cfg, but do think that it
is on the FTP site from which I am supposed to be doing the install from.

do I need to have some other image, or am I missing something here?

Cheers,
Lonnie

Quoting Pixel [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Lonnie Cumberland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  Wow this is it!!!
 
  Now for the dumb question, ok.
 
  Where can I get this and do an install to test it out for myself?

 install cooker.

 at individual package selection, unselect all (easy solution is to use
 the
 Load from floppy, for this put an empty file auto_inst.cfg on floppy)





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Re: [Cooker] Totally failed install as of 09.08

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

On 09 Aug 2001 22:33:05 +0200, Pixel wrote:
 Blue Lizard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  On 09 Aug 2001 15:01:46 +0200, Pixel wrote:
   Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
   
/dev/hda7 / jfs defaults 1 1
   
   for the moment, do not use / on jfs...
   
  
  so the prob is not that it is looking for .i586 and not .i586.rpm?
 
 nope. The message used to be without the .i586 because DrakX was not handling
 multi-architecture. It now does and display the architecture.
 

Related question:
What do you prefer when reporting an install time bug?  I see people
that submit reports from stuff other than simply surfing ttys.  Various
logs and outputs, and of course, whatnot.  How (where?) is this made?  I
certainly would use such with that dang rpm problem (could it be related
to ext3?  I dont think probable, but sorta possible).




Re: [Cooker] YAIR (Yet Another Installation Report - 09/08/2001)

2001-08-09 Thread Blue Lizard

Hey Yves, buddy, since when is tracepath installed?  I cant find it in my 2.4.7-6mdk 
installation but you said it is installed by default...what am i missing?  This a 
newer thing?





Re: [Cooker] small distro

2001-08-09 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Hi again All,

so where do I get this cooker?
 install cooker.

I am currently getting a mirror of the cooker directory onto my local drive.


 at individual package selection, unselect all (easy solution is to use
 the Load from floppy, for this put an empty file auto_inst.cfg on floppy)


I am a little unclear about this part. Could you please explain it more or
direct me to a README file for this?

Cheers,
Lonnie


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RE: [Cooker] [Holy Minimal Install] Why Linux sucks...

2001-08-09 Thread michael

8/8/01 10:23:26 PM, Borsenkow Andrej [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 
  No ! A *minimum* install is an install with *just* urpmi and
draktools
  working... 
Minimal for whom? The end user wanting an HTTP server for example would probably have 
a different 
definition of minimal
 This way you can configure network and adds whatever you
 want.
 
  I missed beginning of this thread, but being unable to install a
server
  without X and a bunch of gnome-related package with 8.0 was
frightening.
 
 Yes, that would be excellent, or a better server install option would
be
 nice. You pick the server(s) and the remote config tools and then
choose
 the
 level of security. No X, Gnome, KDE, no five different text editors,
etc.
 Just solid command-line Linux; no fluff, no bloat.
 

Yes, Yes, YES!

-andrej



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Re: [Cooker] Videolan!

2001-08-09 Thread David Walluck

On 9 Aug 2001, Yves Duret wrote:

 yes it is possible if and only if i can reach the cvs. in fact, RENATER (the
 french research network where videolan is) is down most of the week... it comes up 
few minutes
 then down long hours..
 but the rpm are almost done (i done some from cvs 2 days before 82 release),
 and i need to re-writte my script to remove deCSS from mandrake rpm.. and have
 it apart (it will be in a special library now called libdvdcss)
 you will have it..
 yves

Why is this okay, but you won't except mplayer (et al.) rpms. I don't mean
you personally, but I haven't gotten word from anyone at Mandrake about
this. I still have the SRPMS sitting around. Maybe grousse wants to help
me on this, and then we can upload them to /incoming. I think the GSM
audio codec also needs to be removed, but I'm currently not aware of how
to do this.

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[Cooker] xchat-1.8.2-1mdk

2001-08-09 Thread ninetysix

Is it okay if I just upgrade my perl-base rpm and not upgrade perl to 5.601 
itself?  Thanks.

error: failed dependencies:
perl-base = 5.601 is needed by xchat-1.8.2-1mdk






Re: [Cooker] YAIR (Yet Another Installation Report - 09/08/2001)

2001-08-09 Thread David Walluck

On 9 Aug 2001, Blue Lizard wrote:

 Hey Yves, buddy, since when is tracepath installed?  I cant find it in my 2.4.7-6mdk 
installation but you said it is installed by default...what am i missing?  This a 
newer thing?

First of all, what does your kernel version have to do with that? You may
be right, but not for that reason. I personally have not heard of
tracepath, so I can't help you there, except to say that it should not be
part of the kernel package.

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David Walluck
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Re: [Cooker] Videolan!

2001-08-09 Thread David Walluck

On 10 Aug 2001, Yves Duret wrote:

 if you have srpms without any deCSS/divx/win32 dll, and rpms which works alone
 and a way to had deCSS/divx.. support by a simple plug-in or library to add,
 why not..
 where are there ?
 i take care of videolan for very personnal reasons..

I have never posted them for fear they are illegal. I can build RPMS with
NoSource tag... I still prefer that the user have to download the codecs.
Or maybe I just remove the BuildRequires. What is your preference?

I realize videolan may be a personal project for you, but this is good for
me too, if it bring about a Mandrake policy for libcss.

Again, I can't see *removing* libcss for many applications. However, a
NoSource RPM may be provided for it. Again it is up to you.

I was told that lame was illegal. And maybe the audio codecs to mplayer.
But this will being me one step closer to releasing these RPMS. If I can
find a clean way to remove these codecs I will, but I'm not sure that it
will be easy.

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[Cooker] rpminst breaks down during install portion

2001-08-09 Thread SI Reasoning

rpminst breaks down during install portion. I think
what is happening is that the file is getting
downloaded into urpmi, but grpmi is trying to install
it.

root  5279  0.0  0.7  5316 2372 pts/4S   
00:38   0:00 MandrakeUpdate
root  5280  0.0  0.2  2480  928 pts/4S   
00:38   0:00 /usr/sbin/userhelper -d 5,4,2 -w
MandrakeUpdate
root  5281  1.5 25.3 84860 81056 pts/4   S   
00:38   0:06 MandrakeUpdate
root  6898  0.0  1.1  9800 3836 pts/4S   
00:38   0:00 /usr/sbin/rpminst --skip-intro --report
/root/tmp/rpminst.log --packages abiword
root  6907  0.0  1.1  9800 3836 pts/4S   
00:39   0:00 /usr/sbin/rpminst --skip-intro --report
/root/tmp/rpminst.log --packages abiword
root  6908  0.0  1.1  9800 3836 pts/4S   
00:39   0:00 /usr/sbin/rpminst --skip-intro --report
/root/tmp/rpminst.log --packages abiword
root  6909  0.8  3.6 13776 11752 pts/4   S   
00:39   0:03 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/urpmi --X
--WID=44040226 abiword-0.9.0-2mdk
root  6910  0.0  1.2  6296 4008 pts/4S   
00:39   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/urpmi --X
--WID=44040226 abiword-0.9.0-2mdk
root  6911  0.0  1.2  6296 4008 pts/4S   
00:39   0:00 /usr/bin/perl /usr/sbin/urpmi --X
--WID=44040226 abiword-0.9.0-2mdk
root  6913  0.0  1.3 12088 4240 pts/4S   
00:39   0:00 grpmi --WID=44040226
ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/abiword-0.9.0-2mdk.i586.rpm
root  6914  0.0  1.3 12088 4240 pts/4S   
00:39   0:00 grpmi --WID=44040226 
ftp://ftp.wtfo.com/pub/linux/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/abiword-0.9.0-2mdk.i586.rpm

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PMac4400 with G3 upgradecard

2001-08-09 Thread Mikko Västi

Hi, My problem is that when I try to install mandrake(using bootx to boot)
everything else installs just fine, but then it tries to install
bootstrap( a part of yaboot?) and it fails to do it. It didn't even give a
hint what was the problem(no error explanation(or even error type)). So
any hints how to proceed?
Yours. Mikko Västi





Re: PMac4400 with G3 upgradecard

2001-08-09 Thread Stew Benedict

On Thu, 9 Aug 2001, Mikko Västi wrote:

 Hi, My problem is that when I try to install mandrake(using bootx to boot)
 everything else installs just fine, but then it tries to install
 bootstrap( a part of yaboot?) and it fails to do it. It didn't even give a
 hint what was the problem(no error explanation(or even error type)). So
 any hints how to proceed?
 Yours. Mikko Västi
 
 

Surely there was something more to the message?  Something like No room
to make 1MB bootstrap.  Are you starting with Apple_Free space on the
drive?  The installer does not have the capability of resizing MacOS
partitions.  More recent updates are a little more forgiving and let you
past this initial bootstrap error with a warning that you will need to
create one.  Also I now check for OldWorld machines and forgoe the
bootstrap setup in that case.  I did not have access to an OldWorld
machine for testing when the Beta1 ISO's were released. (nor do I now -
but you folks on the list helped out there ;^))

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I think I fell off the List, This is a test

2001-08-09 Thread Larry Blodgett

this is a test
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Mac-On-Linux

2001-08-09 Thread Sylvain OBEGI

Hello
Does anyone have reach make MOL work under Mdk PPC? (Mdk or mol rpm)
I have a _kernel_init() returns an error or something like that..

Sylvain OBEGI
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Re: I think I fell off the List, This is a test

2001-08-09 Thread BX

At 17:41 -0500 08/09/01, Larry Blodgett wrote:

this is a test


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Test failed on section 2, part 1.9
HTML was posted to e-mail server.
Suggested remedy: Turn off HTML posting.

Test failed on section 9, part 6.5.1
Test post sent to active server.
Suggested remedy: Post test posts to admin

Test warning on section 17, part 3
Microsoft product used to post to list
Suggested remedy: Boycott Microsoft. Worship Steve Jobs.

Summary:
Test successfully posted to group 09 Aug 2001 17:41 -0500
2 failure(s) and 1 warning(s)

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Re: Mac-On-Linux

2001-08-09 Thread Brice D Ruth

Hi Sylvain - I was able to get MOL working w/o much of a problem.  I 
might be able to help you a little bit, but your best bet is to post to 
the Mac-on-Linux mailing list - see the homepage for details. 
 (http://www.mac-on-linux.org/

-Brice

Sylvain OBEGI wrote:

Hello
Does anyone have reach make MOL work under Mdk PPC? (Mdk or mol rpm)
I have a _kernel_init() returns an error or something like that..

Sylvain OBEGI
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