Re: [Cooker] kde3 rpm - trouble with arts
Grab the updated, arts, libarts rpms from, that helps ftp://ftp.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/contrib/texstar/Mandrake-8.2-i586/kde-3.0.0 On Wed, 2002-04-03 at 22:11, Matt and Sarah wrote: I have installed the new kde3 rpms from ftp.kde.org. When i log into kde3, i get a message that the sound server couldn't autodetect which I/O method to use, and nothing running through arts works, although non-kde apps still work ok (xmms, mplayer). Any clues on a fix? Is this a bug in the rpms. I note a couple of other people have had the same issue. Matt _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat
Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Saint-Michel Laurent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [laurent@linux laurent]$ netstat -c -ip Table d'interfaces noyau Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg eth0 1500 0 542 0 0 0 674 0 0 0 BMRU lo16436 0 685 0 0 0 685 0 0 0 LRU ppp0 1500 0 30075 0 0 0 22412 0 0 0 MOPRU Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg Erreur de segmentation strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded since january. florin, could you test on a mdk8.2 ? it works for me with the latest cooker -- Florin http://www.mandrakesoft.com
[Cooker] Cooker iso snapshot ?
What about a cooker iso snapshot with KDE3 and updates ? If no, how to do easyly a cooker iso for install ? Thanks _ MSN Photos est le moyen le plus simple de partager, modifier et imprimer vos photos préférées. http://photos.msn.fr/Support/WorldWide.aspx
Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat
Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [laurent@linux laurent]$ netstat -c -ip Table d'interfaces noyau Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg eth0 1500 0 542 0 0 0 674 0 0 0 BMRU lo16436 0 685 0 0 0 685 0 0 0 LRU ppp0 1500 0 30075 0 0 0 22412 0 0 0 MOPRU Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg Erreur de segmentation strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded since january. florin, could you test on a mdk8.2 ? it works for me with the latest cooker as for me, but in mdk8.2 ? -- Still untested beyond 'it compiles' (davej)
Re: [Cooker] Cooker iso snapshot ?
Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What about a cooker iso snapshot with KDE3 and updates ? If no, how to do easyly a cooker iso for install ? use misc/ scripts :-) -- Still untested beyond 'it compiles' (davej)
[Cooker] X mouse: depends on how X started...
On LM8.2, I've been chasing a strange problem... The mouse worked after 8.2 install; but now, I did what I hate most (reboot) after taking my laptop along on a short trip... Under the following conditions, the mouse *works in VC mode* (gdm); but *not* under X: - booting with or without autologin - init 3 -- init 5 # lsof | grep psaux # *should* give something like: X1905 root 5u CHR10,1 84 /dev/misc/psaux but I get nothing when the problem exists... From a VC, as a regular user, startx and mouse works. Anyone have a hint...? Still looking, Pierre
Re: [Cooker] Does Mandrake include blinux?
Hello Timothy, On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Timothy R. Butler wrote: (http://www.ofb.biz/article.php?sid=75) who asked if Mandrake supported screen readers for the blind/visually impaired. I seem to remember from my I'm not sure this is helpful, but GNOME2 (due out soon) supports a lot of accessibility features. When it is out I'm sure it'll work on Mandrake as well. -- Reinout van SchouwenArtificial Intelligence student email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mobile phone: +31-6-44360778
[Cooker] Kdevelop and htdig are broken.
My previous mail to got no response. It looks like the fix for KDE bug #34152 has not been applied to Mandrake. (kdelibs-devel) and thus using kdoc in kdevelop is broken. And using the documentation creation facility in kdevelop using htdig (either in the options-kdevelopsetup menu or in intaial setup dialog) has been broken in mandrake for as long as I can remember. compalains about not being able to create the index. try it and see. To fix this the kdev_htdig rpm needs create/include the directory /usr/share/apps/kdevelop/htdig/db/ These two kde packages need updating. This allows the creation of the search indexes. I not sure if it allows the searching to work for projects, (Shift F2 in kdevelop still does not work for me) but it is a step closer. It probably needs to be looked at closer. Doing my bit to try and help, thanks, Nick -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Nick Brown, IOS Development UK.
Re: [Cooker] [cdrecord] Support for external Recorder ??
it's a Laptop (HP Omnibook 6000); it doesn't have fireware . but thanks fo your answer;-) - Original Message - From: Tech At Mathco Dot Com [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] [cdrecord] Support for external Recorder ?? There is always firewire pcmcia cards to get if its not integrated. Hopefully cooker has support for them. /Matt - Original Message - From: J.A. Magallon [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, March 23, 2002 5:55 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] [cdrecord] Support for external Recorder ?? On 2002.03.23 Faraj Meir wrote: Hi , There is any know external USB recorder known to work with Linux mandrake . I want to buy a new recorder for my laptop but my preference is for an external one . Meir Faraj I heve used both an HP and a a IOMEGA. Both worked well, just generic usb-storage needed. BUT: if you are going to really _use_ it, not just to burn casual cds, buy an scsi one (I would vote Plextor or Yamaha). oops, it is a laptop...are you so lucky to have firewire ? -- J.A. Magallon # Let the source be with you... mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mandrake Linux release 8.3 (Cooker) for i586 Linux werewolf 2.4.19-pre4-jam1 #1 SMP Thu Mar 21 02:05:01 CET 2002 i686
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake menus in KDE3
Vincent Meyer, MD wrote: Hi, How difficult is it to get the Mandrake menus to work with the kde3 cvs? What code has to be substitued, and is there a relatively easy way to do this? Thanks V. Try == MCC ==System ==Menus == open it/edit to your taste:) == save It works for me for every KDE update, Kde3 included (rpm packages), it may work for you to. Irek
Re: [Cooker] [new SRPM] tightvnc-1.2.3
On Tuesdayen den 2 April 2002 20.07, Han wrote: It is my intend to build a replacing package. (since no one else seems interested...) A while ago I submitted patches to upgrade current vnc with latest tightvnc (patch), but it went unoticed. Also, I experienced very slow performance on windows to windows with tightvnc, I don't know why... -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
[Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. 4) Many other seg faults. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat
Thierry Vignaud [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Florin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [laurent@linux laurent]$ netstat -c -ip Table d'interfaces noyau Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg eth0 1500 0 542 0 0 0 674 0 0 0 BMRU lo16436 0 685 0 0 0 685 0 0 0 LRU ppp0 1500 0 30075 0 0 0 22412 0 0 0 MOPRU Iface MTU Met RX-OK RX-ERR RX-DRP RX-OVR TX-OK TX-ERR TX-DRP TX-OVR Flg Erreur de segmentation strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded since january. florin, could you test on a mdk8.2 ? it works for me with the latest cooker as for me, but in mdk8.2 ? it works fine on an 8.2 too here ... -- Florin http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] mandrake kde3 for 8.2 is a mess !
valter m wrote: when will be fixed the kde3 version for 8.2 installation? thanks, valter _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com It works! Irek
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. == == MCC == System == Menus == open/edit it (if you wish)== save it works after every Kde (2/3) update === 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. 4) Many other seg faults. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! _ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
On Thursdayen den 4 April 2002 16.29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? then you must type man ln. :-) -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
I found a way to make it all work . . . After a fresh 8.2 install - I downloaded the KDE3 (optimized) RPMS from www.pclinuxonline.com (texstar) for 8.2 Then I did the following (outside X in a console screen cntl-alt-F1) In my home directory: $mv .kde .kde_old then su to root and from the kde3 directory do the following: rpm -Uvh lib* rpm -Uvh arts* rpm -Uvh kde* If you have the kdegraphics3 package, then remove the gphoto2 (rpm -e gphoto2) After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control center to recreate the menus under KDE. I also installed the mosfet-liquid theme (which is awesome!) Everything worked beautifully (including sound) and I think KDE3 is much faster and cooler . . I did this on three different machines so far without consequence! Good luck! R.Fox On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. 4) Many other seg faults. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Robert Fox wrote: [] | After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control | center to recreate the menus under KDE. Does: $ update-menus not do this for you much more easily? Buchan, still waiting for our KDE mirror to catch up - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE8rHJArJK6UGDSBKcRAmJKAKCfxSFUl/q/ycLOjAdKP0stKA0ckgCgtZwq F9FBr4F8W+NC5nFHrHDy35E= =XO2T -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
Le jeu 04/04/2002 à 09:29, Joe Simon a écrit : Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. When login from select KDE3 not KDE. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? When running rpm command I got an error not enough space on / so I moved /opt/kde3 (in fact just the kde3 directory and contents) to another file system then made a link in /opt to /NewLocation/kde3. After that every rpm command (re-running the last failed rmp command) succeeded. Now KDE3 is running just fine with some minor problem (I am using it and Evolution to write this message). Used the most updated rpm packages. See www.pclinuxonline.com particularly for arts. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? Neither. How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Without shame but with a lot of proudness... Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! I am not! -- Luc Roseberry Consultant Tivoli certifié / Certified Tivoli Consultant Facilité Informatique Canada
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:49 am, you wrote: Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. == == MCC == System == Menus == open/edit it (if you wish)== save it works after every Kde (2/3) update === Yea that whould be great if drakconf whould even come up. It simply whould not come up on my machine. Also if tried from the command prompt there were no errors. No nothing. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. 4) Many other seg faults. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! _ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 07:36:23 -0800 Brook Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:49 am, you wrote: Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. == == MCC == System == Menus == open/edit it (if you wish)== save it works after every Kde (2/3) update === Yea that whould be great if drakconf whould even come up. It simply whould not come up on my machine. Also if tried from the command prompt there were no errors. No nothing. Then try menudrake instead Charles
[Cooker] Mandrake8.2 server
On this list, somebody wrote few days ago about running Mandrake8.2 server without firewall. As I recall it, link to the web page was provided. Please, email it again. Regards; Irek Stroinski
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake8.2 server
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On this list, somebody wrote few days ago about running Mandrake8.2 server without firewall. As I recall it, link to the web page was provided. Please, email it again. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://www.frozen-bubble.org/
[Cooker] Mdk 8.2 - cannot go into Win2k system directories
Since 8.2 (and the 8.2 betas) I cannot go to system directories like winnt, programs. Win2k (and Win98) are on FAT32 partitions and are correctly recognized by fdsik. I can switch to all normal (i.e. non system) directories and see the contents and I can copy to and from those directories. Since the system branches are not accessable codeweaver wine does not recognize installed windows. Does someone have any hint? Thanks W. Kasberg --
[Cooker] Eclipt Roaster Fix for Mdk8.2 and Cooker
I've been exchanging emails with Martin, the creator of Eroaster, most of the morning and he has now completely fixed the autodetect problem eroast had with mandrake 8.2 and the current cooker. The new tarballs/packages should be uploaded within the next hour. I've tested here and have had no problems. For those that do not want to wait, I've attached the new files. Just untar and place them in /usr/lib/eroaster/ Please note the current rpm ( eroaster-2.0.12-2mdk ) did not correctly fix this due to IO errors. The new version is 2.1.0 -Tim new.tar.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
[Cooker] BUG: drakproxy does not export env variables http_proxy and ftp_proxy
drakproxy should export variables in /etc/proxy.sh, thus the follwing line sould be added to this file export http_proxy ftp_proxy Thanks for the nice work on Mandrake 8.2 and kde3 to all the team and supporters :) Pascal
Re: [Cooker] vim 6.1-1mdk - re-linking message
On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 03:46:29PM -0400, skidley wrote: On Wed, Apr 03, 2002 at 04:12:30PM +0200, Gwenole Beauchesne wrote: for his problem: libncurses does seem to be the only lib used by vim that uses the ospeed symbol. Actually, I don't think that libncurses has the ospeed symbol. That's libermcap2. ncurses defines its own ospeed symbol as _nc_ospeed. upgrading libncurses5 fixed the problem here. Yes, it does. Thanks all for your answers. Laurent. -- Laurent CREPET -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://megrapet.free.fr/
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake8.2 server
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On this list, somebody wrote few days ago about running Mandrake8.2 server without firewall. As I recall it, link to the web page was provided. Please, email it again. http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://www.frozen-bubble.org/ Thanks alot. Irek
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 04 April 2002 09:44 am, Luc Roseberry wrote: Le jeu 04/04/2002 à 09:29, Joe Simon a écrit : 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? When running rpm command I got an error not enough space on / so I moved /opt/kde3 (in fact just the kde3 directory and contents) to another file system then made a link in /opt to /NewLocation/kde3. After that every rpm command (re-running the last failed rmp command) succeeded. I had the same problem, but this is where lvm really shines. I took a chunk of unused space and added it to my mandrake lvm directory and created a /opt ( I created about 1 gig partition and have over 350mg free space left after install) and mounted it (while also creating more room in my /home and/usr directories. It did not take very long to do it and it was working without a rebootsweet. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8rJg8Q3BM1ElJCVIRAhgsAJ9CI+JDOGMA725ILq2kVJJdNSAlCACgz3tp mEuUEmGWsq275LJN2hiuuTU= =boqm -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?
I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but not as a reply. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote: Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 ! When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how dangerous is it really? I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest release of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a cooker package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it seems less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the development of your packages better than me (I guess). So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure cooker system? Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 1) No menu's. Menus came up just fine here. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? Use ln -s /usr/opt /opt (or whereever else you'd like to put it). Overall, this is way better then spewing several hundred megs of files all over /usr. 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. Only the first time... 4) Many other seg faults. Where? Everything is stable here. -Tim - -- - Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz = Christian Web Services Since 1996 == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8rJI0K37Cns9gJ0gRAnHiAJ407Ll1IPY/9aVLweKuwXHiiv3W/ACfSdcw hUg6JwuSBakor4ZlpG+eiHs= =RrIX -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] siag-3.5.1-2
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Description : Siag Office consists of : - the word processor Pathetic Writer, - the spreadsheet Siag, - the animation program Egon Animator, - the file manager Xfiler, - the text editor Xedplus, - the Postscript viewer Gvu. reading this leads to the belief that once saig is installed all the noted apps will be available which they are not. yep, this was the srpm description, i'll move this to siag-common. -- Still untested beyond 'it compiles' (davej)
[Cooker] New S3 Savage driver is out 1.1.23t
http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html This release adds some new card support, but more importantly (for me), it fixed video playback with 24-bit color. -- Steve Fox IBM Linux Technology Center http://www.ibm.com/linux/ltc http://k-lug.org
Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 You would have noticed problems with libpng, which people had when running a hybrid stable/cooker system. This is what can happen, since you may be running two pieces of software which were compiled against two different, and incompatible verions of the same library, thus conflicting. IMHO, if you can't stick with a stable release, then either run cooker (and be prepared for things to break often if you sync often), or rebuild cooker packages on your stable box (which is what I do). Of course, if you rebuild, you might still end up with a broken package, but at least you won't be mixing and matching libraries. Of course, if you try and update something like evolution, you will probably need a new gal, which will need a new bonobo, which will need a new GConf which will need a new However, something like Mozilla (if the stable Nautilus SRPM builds agains the new nautilus, and you are prepared to break Galeon until they release an updated version) shoulnd't be too bad. But don't use cooker packages (without recompiling) on a stable release, unless you know for a fact none of the libraries used have changed (usually quite unlikely). You should never need to use --nodeps when installing RPMs, otherwise you have done something wrong ... That said, I don't have the bandwidth to run cooker, so I could be totally wrong ... Buchan Michael Andreen wrote: | I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in | that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but | not as a reply. | | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote: | |Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 ! | | | When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how | dangerous is it really? | | I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see | that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest release | of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a cooker | package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it seems | less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the | development of your packages better than me (I guess). | | So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest | software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure | cooker system? | | Michael Andreen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | - -- |Registered Linux User #182071-| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone * Work+27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/gpg.key -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE8rJ0erJK6UGDSBKcRAh1sAJ9T2EcuZzkutgnaP2XzME2jXQb++QCcC9RY BjpujqBoll39luHCkVLg2Sg= =/Y0Y -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?
I guess the correct answer would be that it depends on several things. first- Sometimes programs just don't work. second. sometimes the os just doesn't work. usually when some major change in the os like new rpm glibc gcc etc. I am by no means an expert but I have been using it on my home computer since about 7.0. and not that i can say that there have been times that i have resorted to reinstalling the latest stable version until cooker stabilized. I would not recommend running a mission critical server on cooker, but for home use and with some understanding of sometimes things break, go for it and when you find a bug, report it in a non-offending and well elaborated manner. That is what cooker is here for. Salane King On Thursday 04 April 2002 01:15 pm, Michael Andreen wrote: I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but not as a reply. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote: Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 ! When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how dangerous is it really? I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest release of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a cooker package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it seems less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the development of your packages better than me (I guess). So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure cooker system? Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- It is illegal to say Oh, Boy in Jonesboro, Georgia.
Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?
Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure cooker system? Let's be a man. Let's live the hard way. Use cook
Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?
I've been running cooker myself for a good number of months now - I can safely say, it is dangerous if you want a stable system - I've had it break my xconfig, kdm, loose my mail, and screw up other bits and pieces (through my own dumb-ass fault and cooker been broken) That said, I still run cooker... I make regular backup's of /etc and /home, and I leave mail on a seperate mailserver as a backup. Cooker is a great way of running the very latest bleeding edge software but more importantly, it's a _great_ way of learning about linux. If you spot any bugs in it, by all means report them to the list (but try and be polite about it after it's wrecked something ;¬) btw: More often than not, someone else will have spotted the problem before you, so it's often worth checking back through the archives... that's my excuse for not being able to contribute much anyway ;) On Thursday 04 Apr 2002 7:15 pm, Michael Andreen wrote: I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but not as a reply. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote: Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 ! When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how dangerous is it really? I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest release of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a cooker package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it seems less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the development of your packages better than me (I guess). So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure cooker system? Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
www.pclinuxonline.com ?? I would of thought ftp.kde.org would always have the latest and best RPMS ? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS Date: 04 Apr 2002 16:51:29 +0200 I found a way to make it all work . . . After a fresh 8.2 install - I downloaded the KDE3 (optimized) RPMS from www.pclinuxonline.com (texstar) for 8.2 Then I did the following (outside X in a console screen cntl-alt-F1) In my home directory: $mv .kde .kde_old then su to root and from the kde3 directory do the following: rpm -Uvh lib* rpm -Uvh arts* rpm -Uvh kde* If you have the kdegraphics3 package, then remove the gphoto2 (rpm -e gphoto2) After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control center to recreate the menus under KDE. I also installed the mosfet-liquid theme (which is awesome!) Everything worked beautifully (including sound) and I think KDE3 is much faster and cooler . . I did this on three different machines so far without consequence! Good luck! R.Fox On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. 4) Many other seg faults. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
This address is made from someone called TEXSTAR He makes specially packaged RPMS which are better optimized for Mandrake. If you check his KDE3 RPMS - they are smaller because they are compiled without the debug code and they run leaner. These are NOT the official KDE packages from KDE, but they are specially created and optimized for Mandrake. He's also got some other cool stuff like a Mandrake distribution optimized for Athelon processors . . . FYI Cheers, R.Fox On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 21:08, Joe Simon wrote: www.pclinuxonline.com ?? I would of thought ftp.kde.org would always have the latest and best RPMS ? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert Fox) Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS Date: 04 Apr 2002 16:51:29 +0200 I found a way to make it all work . . . After a fresh 8.2 install - I downloaded the KDE3 (optimized) RPMS from www.pclinuxonline.com (texstar) for 8.2 Then I did the following (outside X in a console screen cntl-alt-F1) In my home directory: $mv .kde .kde_old then su to root and from the kde3 directory do the following: rpm -Uvh lib* rpm -Uvh arts* rpm -Uvh kde* If you have the kdegraphics3 package, then remove the gphoto2 (rpm -e gphoto2) After the install I started KDE3 and ran menudrake from the control center to recreate the menus under KDE. I also installed the mosfet-liquid theme (which is awesome!) Everything worked beautifully (including sound) and I think KDE3 is much faster and cooler . . I did this on three different machines so far without consequence! Good luck! R.Fox On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. 4) Many other seg faults. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
[Cooker] Squiguard setup?
I would usually like to think I'm not completely stupid but how do I setup squidguard? I manually set most of it up but I get cannot access /cgi-bin/squidguard.cgi on this server. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] BUG report for Netstat
Le Jeudi 4 Avril 2002 16:33, vous avez écrit : strange, i cannot reproduce it despite net-tools hasn't be rebuilded since january. I had the same problem with Mdk 8.1 (I j've ust tried on the same computer). The strace outup is not helpfull maybe it is only a hardware problem, but when I do a loop it is working properly (1hour testing !!). So I am confused. I will try tomorrow. What kind of info do you need ? BR Laurent -- Alain Gillot-Pétré(24 novembre 1982) Froid de novembre, cache ton membre, disait Teilhard de Chardin, qui philosophait rarement sans sa soutane en thermolactyl Damart ... -+- P.Desproges Tribunal des flagrants délires (80-82) --- Envoyé par / Send by Laurent Saint-Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Le : jeu avr 4 21:35:23 CEST 2002 Machine : Linux 2.4.18-6mdk i686
Re: [Cooker] mandrake kde3 for 8.2 is a mess !
please tell us how you did that? :) I am quite curious /Jun On Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:43:40AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :valter m wrote: : : when will be fixed the kde3 version for 8.2 installation? : : thanks, : valter : : _ : Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com :It works! : :Irek
Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?
Le Jeudi 4 Avril 2002 21:00, Warly a écrit : Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure cooker system? Let's be a man. Let's live the hard way. Use cook But it is clear that cooker it isn't a stable system to make a really secure server. I use my firewall with strict iptables to compile my package, I try to update the minimum of package to keep my system stable. When I need to test on a real cooker, I have an autoinstall network process, in 1 hours I have a real cooker to compile on an other computer. I have a question about the new RPM (v 4.2). Is the cooker RPM need to build cooker package and is it compatible with Mdk 8.0, 8.1 and 8.2 ? Thanks. -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Running cooker, good or bad?
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002 20:15:34 +0200 Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I posted this as reply to another thread, but looks like the discussion in that thread is over and noone is planning an answer, so here it is now, but not as a reply. To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Wednesday 03 April 2002 10.29, Laurent Montel wrote: Perhaps you don't know but cooker is DIFFERENT from 8.2 ! When this is up.. It's been said that it's dangerous to run cooker, but how dangerous is it really? I've been idling on this mailinglist for a few months now and I can't see that it's more dangerous than always compiling and running the latest release of everything (which I tend to be doing after a while, or stealing a cooker package once in a while and get it into the stable dist), actually it seems less dangerous since you mdk guys are more experianced and follows the development of your packages better than me (I guess). So what's recommended? Running a stable release and compiling the latest software/ using a few cooker packages in the stable release or running a pure cooker system? Michael Andreen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I run cooker all the time. On a few occasions I've spent 2-3 hours rebuilding a box cause of it. I wouldn't suggest using cooker for anything that needs to be available. Using packages from cooker can be just as bad (search archives for libpng :) For a serious box and reliability - use a release version and let it get out of date except for packages where you NEED the newer features/fixes. -- Murray J. Root Mandrake on irc.openprojects.net: #mandrake #mandrake-linux = help for newbies #mandrakeguru = advanced discussions #mdk-cooker = Mandrake Cooker discussions
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! 1) No menu's. 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. 4) Many other seg faults. Is this just a Mandrake problem or KDE problem? How can kde.org say the following on their web site: On April 3rd 2002, the KDE Project released KDE 3.0, the Third-Generation of the Leading Desktop for Linux/UNIX, Offering Enterprises, Governments, Schools, and Businesses an Outstanding Free and Open Desktop Solution. Can you imagine students in grade 7-9 getting all these seg faults and not having any menu's? I am disappointed! _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com Well, /usr is for software integral to the system, /opt is for add-on software according to FHS 2.2. KDE2.2.2 is part of the system, and KDE3 is regarded as an experimental add-on at this time. If you don't have enough room to make an /opt in /, then mkdir -p /usr/opt ln -s /usr/opt /opt It isn't yet ready for newbie time by a long shot, but you know the clamor when we delay these releases. Turn up your messaging to warning level to catch the KDE warnings and you will get a clue to the segfaults--most are in reference to opening sockets. Drop your security level to 2 with msec 2 and the most of the crashes disappear. Perhaps the KDE team was concerned with desktop and not thinking of settable security or perhaps they decided the distros should make the permissions available (which is going to take some distro-centric engineering) Sound may work on your computer without the sound server in KDE3 functioning at all. There is little new in this. The linux kernel was not really designed for sound, and the problems multiply from that. Civileme
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 04 April 2002 5:23 pm, tester wrote: On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are much better than the ones from kde. 1) No menu's. menudrake can fix this problem, just open as root and click save. I also had to modify the menu style to all applications menu (also called Mandrake menu). This can be done within menudrake under the text menu at the top... Action/Modify Menu Style 2) Installed in /opt rather than /usr (KDE2 is in /usr). The packages are not relocatable. What if someone does not have fs /opt or enough space on / ? I like this, I think more of the larger packages should be installed here personally. It is no big deal to create a link to there or a new /opt partition if you have the space. I think it threw us off a bit having it in /opt since we had no reason to prepare for this when initially setting up our hard drive partitions. 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. this went away with texstar's rpms. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8rOVAQ3BM1ElJCVIRAiC+AJ9y9jjLgDrR3yPMApRLCifR1WZrfwCgxfEH f+ryQ7HHArSJDKhne1dvF6o= =7nKn -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:43 pm, you wrote: On Thursday 04 April 2002 5:23 pm, tester wrote: On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are much better than the ones from kde. KDE Doesn't ship any packages. 3) ksplash seg faults just right after login. this went away with texstar's rpms. Qt bug...
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are much better than the ones from kde. Yes, I found the same thing. Apparently Mandrake missed a few problems when they submitted the packages to the KDE team (KDE does not build the binary packages). -Tim - -- - Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz = Christian Web Services Since 1996 == -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8rPGEK37Cns9gJ0gRAt0QAJ9S0YesX+J1XQy8e+qfcYnmCNZz4QCgmKl3 8oMzSws69+LvBMaxq1zQWzc= =jSFk -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] Question? how to correct No user write to /dev/floppy on msec 3
How do i write to floppy on standard security level? Is that a security risk or something else. I can't change permissions on /dev/floppy which is a link to /dev/floppy/0 and can't change permissions on /mnt floppy even as root. -- And it's my opinion, and that's only my opinion, you are a lunatic. Just because there are a few hunderd other people sharing your lunacy with you does not make you any saner. Doomed, eh? -- Oleg Kiselev,[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 WHAT A MESS
On Friday 05 April 2002 08:23 am, Maks Orlovich wrote: On Thursday 04 April 2002 06:43 pm, you wrote: On Thursday 04 April 2002 5:23 pm, tester wrote: On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 05:29, Joe Simon wrote: Just installed Mandrake's KDE3 packages. This must be the worst yet! I got the ones from texstar via pclinuxonline.com for 8.2 and they are much better than the ones from kde. KDE Doesn't ship any packages. They do make packages available on their mirrors, e.g. http://www.planetmirror.com/pub/kde/stable/3.0/Mandrake/8.2/RPMS/i586/ which AFAIK are actually built by Mandrake. Cheers; Leon
Re:[Cooker] Question? how to correct No user write to /dev/floppy on msec 3
yeah, i'm having errors writing to pretty much any folders outside of my Home dir... i also cannot mnt cdrom, cdrom2, floppy, etc... i'm using Linux Mandrake 8.2 non-beta GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
[Cooker] konqueror3 loses scrollbar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Using both mdk's and texstar's kde3 rpm's on 8.2, I have noticed that konqueror will occassionally lose its right scrollbar, esp if font size is larger than default. It can be regained by maximizing konqueror then when unmax it will have the scrollbar (for a while). -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8rQDXQ3BM1ElJCVIRApBXAJ9SiEsO945XE+bQ1pINsqC9uIYp8wCfeFaL vY7FK2e83CD+nQVJkmDPbNg= =xjl4 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re:[Cooker] KDE3 no sound on startup bug back again
heh, so stick to kde2.2 =-P GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
Re:[Cooker] KDE3 no sound on startup bug back again
I need the new Kmail that supports Auth SMTP since my ISP uses that. Plus Konq is much faster. So I won't go back to kde 2.2.2. I didn't give up before 8.2 and I got it fixed in time for LM8.2 final. I'll get it fixed again. Thanks On April 4, 2002 08:39 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: heh, so stick to kde2.2 =-P GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/.
[Cooker] KDE3 no sound on startup bug back again
In the LM8.2 beta's I complained about no sound in KDE2.2.2 on startup. They fixed it. I was happy. Now with KDE3 there is no sounds on startup again. I have Vendor: Ensoniq Model: 5880 AudioPCI Kernel Module: es1371 Bus Type: PCI The logout sound works, but the startup sound does not work. Yes I have all the sound checked off in the control panel and start sound server and volumes turned up.
[Cooker] Segfault in Mozilla (and my resolution)
Ever since I upgraded to ver 8.2 on my desktop and laptop, Mozilla segfaulted. After trying many different things I finally troubleshoot it to libsafe, I updated libsafe to cooker ver. 2.0.13-1mdk Jose
[Cooker] gimpprint-4.2.0-24mdk
I tested this new package with not much success with my Canon S400. The width is still twice the size it should have. gimpprint-4.2.0-24mdk
[Cooker] KDE3 KDM
Does anyone know how to make the system use KDE3's KDM instead of having to have kde2 installed to use just kdm.. when i uninstall kdebase for kde2 kdm disappears and i can't seem to make it take kde3's kdm*shrugs* i don't konw things are very strange
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 KDM
You can do it with a little hacking. As root, go to /etc/X11, edit the prefdm file, look near the end where it execs the preferred dm and add this line right before it. exec /opt/kde3/bin/kdm $* /dev/null 21 Then you need to create a fndSession file for kde3 to make so that the KDE3 kdm knows what sessions you have. I've attached mine. Install it as /usr/sbin/fndSession3 Then do (still as root): $ init 3 $ /usr/sbin/fndSession3 $ init 5 That's what I did and it works like a charm of course fndSession3 may use something that comes with KDE2 (I still have both installed). If it can't find anything, let me know and I'll send that too. On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 00:01, Jeremy Salch wrote: Does anyone know how to make the system use KDE3's KDM instead of having to have kde2 installed to use just kdm.. when i uninstall kdebase for kde2 kdm disappears and i can't seem to make it take kde3's kdm*shrugs* i don't konw things are very strange -- TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger #!/bin/sh # fndSession (c) MandrakeSoft, Chmouel Boudjnah [EMAIL PROTECTED] ## FindSession for kdm and gdm. [ -x /usr/sbin/chksession ] || { echo I can't find /usr/sbin/chksession echo check your installation exit 1 } if [ -e /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc ];then LIST=`/usr/sbin/chksession -k` perl -pi -e 's|^SessionTypes=.*|$ENV{LIST}|'\ /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc fi
[Cooker] KDE3 and KDM - strange behaviour
I have the KDE3 working just fine on several machines now. One minor annoyance is - under the KDE3 control panel - System - Login manager - I tried to change the KDM settings (using the admin mode) The changes are recorded without problem - but when I restart the session and/or X - the old settings are still there. The changes don't appear to stick. I've also seen others complaining about this for KDM/GDM under plain 8.2 Anyone else experiencing this? Thx, R.Fox
Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac
Sorry, the machine is a powerbook G3 series 266MHz, 96MB RAM walstreet II Thank's! - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2002 6:58 PM Subject: Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac On Wed, 3 Apr 2002, Eduardo Kushima wrote: I downloaded mandrake 8.2beta2 and burned it on my pc using nero and blindwrite, checked the iso and it was hybrid, 2048b/sector, everything ok I think, but mac can't boot from this cd, but can read it normally. Some suggestions? You don't say what kind of Mac, but only NewWorld machines can boot from the CD. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Mac OS gives boot problems
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, Tom Hutchinson wrote: Hi right now i have Mac OS X and 9 on one partition and Mandrake 8.2b2 also installedit works fine except when i tell Mac OS to switch to boot into the other version(ie in OS X say to boot into OS 9 next time) yaboot doesn't come up just booting into mac os is ok but when i switch between the two it makes the computer boot directly into Mac OS so i have to do setenv boot-device hd:9,\\tbxi (which makes things fine again) are you there any apps for MacOS that will let me switch which ide like to boot into safely? is there a yaboot entry i can make to manually saw to boot into OS 9(or X) then i could just leave macos always set on one but when i wanted to boot to the other just select it in yaboot? As far as I know, it only works that way if they are on seperate partitions. I haven't used OSX myself. Have you tried the method of holding down Option at boot and see if OS9 and OSX and Linux are offered? Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Apache+mod_ssl
Hi I have a problem with apache and mod_ssl If i try to start apache with mod_ssl, it just dies, in the log files it says it started ok, but there is no process running. I'm using mdk 8.2ppc beta2 on a Server G4. re Ales Golob
Re: Mac OS gives boot problems
On 4/4/02 9:41 AM, Tom Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I realize that i can make a partition for os 9 and X and it will be fine but i dont use 9 much so i dont like wasting space with a big partition for it(plus it just takes away soem flexibility) -Tom Hutchinson It's probably better to have a separate partition for each. I have three partitions and the OS9 one is only 1gig, OS9 doesn't really need much space. In fact a basic install is only around 3-400MB. This is how I have my ibook (dual usb 500, 384MB, 10GB, CDRW) OS9 =1GB OSX =5GB Mandrake-linux=4GIG This works perfectly for me. Colin
graphical install insight- MacOS influence on Linux
This may be of interest: I generally run everything at the highest resolution possible, to get more stuff on the screen at once. The other day I was collecting some screenshots for Phil in MacOS, and backed down the resolution on the iMac to 800x600, and left it that way when I shut down. Today when I went ot do an install, the graphical install had the weird half-overlap effect some folks have described. It was usable, until I got to partitioning, and then I got too worried trying to select my /boot that I was indeed getting the right partition. I tried various video= options, with no improvement, before I remembered making that change in MacOS a couple of days ago. I went back to MacOS and put it back to 1024x768, rebooted into the installer and things were fine again. HTH, Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Mac OS gives boot problems
As far as I know, it only works that way if they are on seperate partitions. I haven't used OSX myself. Have you tried the method of holding down Option at boot and see if OS9 and OSX and Linux are offered? Stew Benedict Yes - Holding option lets me choose between the current select MacOS and Linux - if i choose linux it takes me to yaboot
Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac
On 4 Apr 2002, Luis M wrote: On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 06:03, Phil Lavigna wrote: Using BootX to install 8.2 PPC: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/temp/tutorialsPPC/Install/pages/install5B.html This first link doesn't show about increasing the RAM disk size ... I had problems with the computer not being able to load the image, then I read the README (usually after having problems we peak at the README and all other stuff in the doc directory :-) ) and I realize I had to increase this from 8MB to whatever the number was ( in my case I had memory so I just put 32768 and that did it ). If you use the Applescript wrapper, you don't need to change the ramdisk size, note the ramdisk_size=34000 in the kernel arguments. BootX does not save that setting, so this was my workaround. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: KDM and ATI Rage 128
https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/~baudens/ppc/ I installed these packages on my PowerBook Pismo with an ATI Rage Mobility 128, commented the DRI modules back into my XF86Config-4, and everything works beautifully now. Tried the OpenGL xscreensaver modules - they run as smooth as silk with hardware acceleration! Amazing... I haven't tried OpenGL on here for some time, so maybe it's been good for a while, but this is the best I've seen it. :-) Peter
Re: Problem burning ISO image on PC and read from mac
:-) but if you don't use the AppleScript (in my case the applescript kept giving me a strange error of not being able to load something, and since this install of MacOS was not a full install, I didn't bother about fixing it). I just wanted to point out that the instructions online for the link mentioned, show the number of the ram disk size to be 8mb which will cause the installer to go bezerk. for other linux distros (ppc) this is fine, but Mandrake ...it's different ;-) On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 16:14, Stew Benedict wrote: On 4 Apr 2002, Luis M wrote: On Thu, 2002-04-04 at 06:03, Phil Lavigna wrote: Using BootX to install 8.2 PPC: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/temp/tutorialsPPC/Install/pages/install5B.html This first link doesn't show about increasing the RAM disk size ... I had problems with the computer not being able to load the image, then I read the README (usually after having problems we peak at the README and all other stuff in the doc directory :-) ) and I realize I had to increase this from 8MB to whatever the number was ( in my case I had memory so I just put 32768 and that did it ). If you use the Applescript wrapper, you don't need to change the ramdisk size, note the ramdisk_size=34000 in the kernel arguments. BootX does not save that setting, so this was my workaround. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/ -- )(- Luis Mondesi System Administrator/Web developer LatinoMixed.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] The trouble with you Is the trouble with me. Got two good eyes But we still don't see. -- Robert Hunter, Workingman's Dead
Re: KDM and ATI Rage 128
Peter R. Wood wrote: https://qa.mandrakesoft.com/~baudens/ppc/ I installed these packages on my PowerBook Pismo with an ATI Rage Mobility 128, commented the DRI modules back into my XF86Config-4, and everything works beautifully now. Tried the OpenGL xscreensaver modules - they run as smooth as silk with hardware acceleration! Amazing... I haven't tried OpenGL on here for some time, so maybe it's been good for a while, but this is the best I've seen it. :-) Peter Yes, i can say the same. I can still only get 16bit color though (ibook2 500). I must say though that the disply is still very nice and crisp and DRI seems to be working very well. Colin
Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....
I am a Linux newbie, but have installed on (perhaps) four machines. Here's my current. PM G4/733 Quick ATI radeon 7500 32M hda = IBM 60gig hdb = WD 20 gig Linux installed in 4 gig partition at the end of this drive logitech wheel mouse SCSI Zip 100 drive Internal CD-RW Apple 1705 multiscan monitor Epson Color SW 740 printer How do I open my CDROM drawer ? It won't open when I press the 'eject' button on my keyboard. It won't open when I click the 'eject' button of the CD player application It won't open when I right click on the CDROM deskop icon and then left click on the 'Eject' option. The device is NOT mounted and evidenced by [root@localhost etc]# umount /mnt/cdrom umount: /mnt/cdrom: not mounted Here's my /etc/fstab file.. [root@localhost etc]# cat fstab /dev/hdb4 / ext2 noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /home ext2 noatime 1 2 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/sda,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/zip2 /mnt/zip2 supermount dev=/dev/sda4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Also why two zip devices? Not sure how that may have happened? I can't seem to mount either... perhaps because disks were formatted on Mac OS8. [root@localhost etc]# mount /mnt/zip [root@localhost etc]# cd /mnt/zip bash: cd: /mnt/zip: Input/output error Thanks for any help provided. In general the 8.2 beta install went fine. Of course, Gnome control panel is fubar, but that has been reported earlier. I needed to fuss around to get 1024*768 resolution configured... thought my monitor specs clearly indicate it's within spec. CUPS did not, initially, install correctly. Had some problems defining my epson printer.. but most bugs have been worked out. Jim
Re: Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, James M. White wrote: I am a Linux newbie, but have installed on (perhaps) four machines. Here's my current. PM G4/733 Quick ATI radeon 7500 32M hda = IBM 60gig hdb = WD 20 gig Linux installed in 4 gig partition at the end of this drive logitech wheel mouse SCSI Zip 100 drive Internal CD-RW Apple 1705 multiscan monitor Epson Color SW 740 printer How do I open my CDROM drawer ? It won't open when I press the 'eject' button on my keyboard. It won't open when I click the 'eject' button of the CD player application It won't open when I right click on the CDROM deskop icon and then left click on the 'Eject' option. The device is NOT mounted and evidenced by [root@localhost etc]# umount /mnt/cdrom umount: /mnt/cdrom: not mounted Here's my /etc/fstab file.. [root@localhost etc]# cat fstab /dev/hdb4 / ext2 noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /home ext2 noatime 1 2 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 Is this the correct device for your CD? You could also try the eject command. By default it tries /dev/cdrom, but you can specify device. Also ikeyd may enable your keyboard eject button. If you try from the command line, you may find the drive is busy, and the GUI is masking that from you. /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/sda,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/zip2 /mnt/zip2 supermount dev=/dev/sda4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 Also why two zip devices? Not sure how that may have happened? I can't seem to mount either... perhaps because disks were formatted on Mac OS8. x86 behavior. /dev/sda4 is the common DOS formatted zip. You'll need to put a disk in and do: pdisk -l /dev/sda and see what partition has the data (there may be some MacOS driver partitions, like on your hard drive) hopefully it's formatted hfs, then you can cahnge the fstab entry appropriately, with hfs as the filesystem type, rather than vfat The raw entry for the whole drive is also something I've seen on the main cooker list, so we apparently just inherited that from x86 too. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
Re: Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....
James M. White wrote: I am a Linux newbie, but have installed on (perhaps) four machines. Here's my current. PM G4/733 Quick ATI radeon 7500 32M hda = IBM 60gig hdb = WD 20 gig Linux installed in 4 gig partition at the end of this drive logitech wheel mouse SCSI Zip 100 drive Internal CD-RW Apple 1705 multiscan monitor Epson Color SW 740 printer How do I open my CDROM drawer ? It won't open when I press the 'eject' button on my keyboard. It won't open when I click the 'eject' button of the CD player application It won't open when I right click on the CDROM deskop icon and then left click on the 'Eject' option. The device is NOT mounted and evidenced by [root@localhost etc]# umount /mnt/cdrom umount: /mnt/cdrom: not mounted Here's my /etc/fstab file.. [root@localhost etc]# cat fstab /dev/hdb4 / ext2 noatime 1 1 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb6 /home ext2 noatime 1 2 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount dev=/dev/scd0,fs=iso9660,ro,--,iocharset=iso8859-1 0 0 /mnt/zip /mnt/zip supermount dev=/dev/sda,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 /mnt/zip2 /mnt/zip2 supermount dev=/dev/sda4,fs=vfat,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync,codepage=850 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0 Also why two zip devices? Not sure how that may have happened? I can't seem to mount either... perhaps because disks were formatted on Mac OS8. [root@localhost etc]# mount /mnt/zip [root@localhost etc]# cd /mnt/zip bash: cd: /mnt/zip: Input/output error Thanks for any help provided. In general the 8.2 beta install went fine. Of course, Gnome control panel is fubar, but that has been reported earlier. I needed to fuss around to get 1024*768 resolution configured... thought my monitor specs clearly indicate it's within spec. CUPS did not, initially, install correctly. Had some problems defining my epson printer.. but most bugs have been worked out. Jim I do this [colin@colinsbox colin]$ cd /mnt/cdrom [colin@colinsbox colin]$ eject should work Colin
Re: Unable to eject CDROM... and why two zip devices....
On Thu, 4 Apr 2002, James M. White wrote: spec. CUPS did not, initially, install correctly. Had some problems defining my epson printer.. but most bugs have been worked out. Forgot this one. I believe I've cleaned up the printer setup today. I don't have any USB printers, mine are networked, but they got setup OK. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/demos/PPC/FAQ/
We have spontaneus reboots
I read some mails (in this ml) about spontaneus reboots. I have 2 blue G3. The first has got MDK8.0 (with 2.4.17 kernel), the secons has got MDK8.2beta1 (with kernel 2.4.18). I registered on eitheir machines spontaneus reboots. In the log I cannot find anything useful, but today morning I saw the monitor: I read something like cua state=idle on the first line. I couldn't read the second line because in few seconds the machine rebooted. It was not a crash, but a regular reboot: something like going in init 6. Any suggestion, now ? Regards, Miguel Beccari
Re: We have spontaneus reboots
it could be a kernel panic. when that happens to my ibook ( when I was using Mandrake's kernels as you are now), my ibook kept panic'ing for no reason. I could not see anything in the logs. It usually happened after being away from it for a long time -- and usually whenever I mounted something, like a NFS drive (I compile my kernel with NFS support builtin, not as a module, just in case -- I use it all the time with the ibook). I thought it was some 'modprobe -r' (cleaning the modules) trying to unload a module or something, and that causing the panic. My solution for it was to get the source for the kernel ( got mine from tuxppc.org because I could not get the kernel-source...rpm to compile in my ibook... well, now I know that I should've used 'make mrpropper', but anyway... ) after compiling the kernel using 2.4.19-pre4 my ibook has been rock solid. On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 03:00, Miguel Beccari wrote: I read some mails (in this ml) about spontaneus reboots. I have 2 blue G3. The first has got MDK8.0 (with 2.4.17 kernel), the secons has got MDK8.2beta1 (with kernel 2.4.18). I registered on eitheir machines spontaneus reboots. In the log I cannot find anything useful, but today morning I saw the monitor: I read something like cua state=idle on the first line. I couldn't read the second line because in few seconds the machine rebooted. It was not a crash, but a regular reboot: something like going in init 6. Any suggestion, now ? Regards, Miguel Beccari -- )(- Luis Mondesi System Administrator/Web developer LatinoMixed.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] FORTUNE'S RULES TO LIVE BY: #2 Never goose a wolverine.
Re: We have spontaneus reboots
Luis M wrote: it could be a kernel panic. when that happens to my ibook ( when I was using Mandrake's kernels as you are now), my ibook kept panic'ing for no reason. I could not see anything in the logs. It usually happened after being away from it for a long time -- Yes. My G3s are servers (file servers) and they reboots on nights or on Saturday and Sunday (I see this with 'uptime') and usually whenever I mounted something, like a NFS drive (I compile my kernel with NFS support builtin, not as a module, just in case -- I use it all the time with the ibook). I thought it was some 'modprobe -r' (cleaning the modules) trying to unload a module or something, and that causing the panic. I want to try this. My solution for it was to get the source for the kernel ( got mine from tuxppc.org because I could not get the kernel-source...rpm to compile in my ibook... well, now I know that I should've used 'make mrpropper', but anyway... ) after compiling the kernel using 2.4.19-pre4 my ibook has been rock solid. OK. So I need just a new kernel. tnx, Miguel Beccari