Re: [Cooker] WTF?

2002-11-13 Thread Vincent Danen

On Wednesday, November 13, 2002, at 08:21 PM, Oden Eriksson wrote:

[...]

* Wed Nov 13 2002 Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
8.3.3-3mdk
- security fix for multiple flaws in the code (P10) possible addresses;
  CAN-2002-1219, CAN-2002-1220 and CAN-2002-1221, this is something
  for mandrakesecurity to sort out on paid workingtime ;)

Will be out tomorrow.


- updated S6 to _show_ a fake version to fool the script kiddies even
  more, root should change this later to maybe 9.2.2?
  updated root cache file from internic


Why?  They're not going to scan for a version before trying to exploit. 
 They're just going to hammer every DNS server they can find.  I've 
said it before a million times but, let's make it a million and one:  
Security through obscurity is no security at all.

Anyways, bind8 is only in 7.2 and SNF7.2... 8.0+ install bind9 by 
default.  I'm actually impressed that bind9 isn't affected by any of 
this, but it sure makes it easy to support.  Why are you still using 
bind8 (I'm assuming you're not using a 7.2 box since this is on cooker).

Actually, the real question, is why are you still using bind at all?  
ISC screwed the pooch on this one big time...  I wouldn't touch bind 
after this mess with a 10 foot pole.

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Re: [Cooker] new rpm and unpackaged files

2002-11-13 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
Hi,


But this is not possible because building failed now. I want just
confirmation about the better way to build without including this files.


I retranslate my reply. ;-)

make install shall not install %doc files. That's all. So, either you 
remove those files from $RPM_BUILD_ROOT, either you teach make install 
to not install files that you will %doc in filelist.

Bye,
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Re: [Cooker] 2.4.19-19 problems

2002-11-13 Thread Bernard Varaine
Matt Phillips wrote:
> I can't get my wireless card to connect with the 2.4.19-19 kernel, but
> the 2.4.19-18 kernel is fine.  I'm using a DLink Air DWL-650. Normally
> it connects almost immediately, but now it continually blinks, unable 
>to find the base station.  Switching back to 2.4.19-18 works fine.  It
> normally uses the prism2_cs module, however I tried the wavelan_cs and
> wvlan_cs modules as well, but they didn't work either.  It looks like 
>the prism2_cs module was updated between versions (0.1.14 -> 
>0.1.16-pre5)
>but the new version doesn't work?  Is there anything I can do to get a 
>better idea of where it's actually going wrong?  There are no errors 
>reported, it just acts like it can't find the base station.




I just upgraded my cooker from 2.4.19-18 to 2.4.19-19 and as I am also 
runnin a DWL-650 was expecting some problem..
But no everything works fine.
It did even fix some issue I had with wlan0 not being properly configure d

Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: Linux Kernel Card Services Kernel Version
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel:   options:  [pci] [cardbus] [pm]
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: Yenta IRQ list 0498, PCI irq11
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: Socket status: 3010
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: Yenta IRQ list 0498, PCI irq11
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: Socket status: 3006
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0c00-0x0cff: clean.
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0100-0x04ff: excluding 0x258-0x
25f 0x378-0x37f 0x4d0-0x4d7
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: cs: IO port probe 0x0a00-0x0aff: excluding 0xa58-0x
a5f
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: cs: memory probe 0xa000-0xa0ff: clean.
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: init_module: prism2_cs.o: 0.1.16-pre5 Loaded
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: init_module: dev_info is: prism2_cs
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: prism2_cs: index 0x01: Vcc 3.3, irq 3, io 0x0100-0x
013f
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: ident: nic h/w: id=0x800c 1.0.0
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: ident: pri f/w: id=0x15 1.0.7
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: ident: sta f/w: id=0x1f 1.3.5
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: MFI:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x01:var=0x01:b/t=1/1
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: CFI:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x02:var=0x02:b/t=1/1
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: PRI:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x03:var=0x01:b/t=4/4
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: STA:SUP:role=0x00:id=0x04:var=0x01:b/t=1/9
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: PRI-CFI:ACT:role=0x01:id=0x02:var=0x02:b/t=1/1
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: STA-CFI:ACT:role=0x01:id=0x02:var=0x02:b/t=1/1
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: STA-MFI:ACT:role=0x01:id=0x01:var=0x01:b/t=1/1
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: Prism2 card SN: 99SA0100
Nov 14 20:27:44 doit kernel: p80211knetdev_hard_start_xmit: Tx attempt prior to
association, frame dropped.




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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Stephane SOPPERA
> Does Maya have a linux port ?

yes

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer

> reading the configuration files from windows at install of LM isn't as
> simple as it sounds.. with the weirdness in the different windows
> versions. and the xp ntfs that isn't read by linux yet.
ntfs is ready on read only, i use it on a daily basis, no problem.
I even get it to write one day ( by mistake, just delete some useless 
directories ).
Of courses, there is a lot of versions.

But all we need ( i think ) :
1 ) to get the register ( easy, these file are well known , system.dat, and 
user.dat )
2 ) to read it ( difficult part ), and to get the information on a simple 
format.
3 ) To found the useful info. Not to difficult, if we only do some apps.
I mean, it should not be to difficult to extract the info for a internet 
connection, no ? Just take a look at some keys, and get the info. This 
heavily rely on the step 2.
And, as we all know someone who have a windows version, we can get a lot of 
system to test, just grab the files.

But, I think there should be a problem with the fact there is different user, 
whith different configuration, which should be maped to other user on the 
system. Or, some information may be stored encrypted ?

The project should be resurrected, but, i do not have the skills.
But, if someone want windows config files, i can help.


> Jason,
> add Autodesk, Discreet, Mcneel & Associates, Maxon, actually all
> graphics app companies for windows graphics, to your list of arrogant
> windows only companies. ( Autocad, 3D Studio Max & Combustion,
> Rhinoceros Nurbs Modelling, Cinema 4D, the respective apps of the
> companies listed )
Yes , but, there is commercial alternatives under Linux.
Varicad, which seems to be a complete and good replacement for autocad.

3D studio max, and the others, there should be something, if ILM use Linux, 
this means there is software.

Does Maya have a linux port ?

Mick






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Wed Nov 13 20:29 -0800, J. Greenlees wrote:
> reading the configuration files from windows at install of LM isn't as 
> simple as it sounds.. with the weirdness in the different windows 
> versions. and the xp ntfs that isn't read by linux yet.

NTFS can be read fine.  It can't be written.

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Re: [Cooker] [Contrib-RPMS] quakeforge, svgalib, xlogmaster

2002-11-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Maxim Heijndijk wrote:


* Stardate: 2002-11-13 17:03
* Incoming subspace signal from "Adam Williamson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" :

 

On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 16:55, Maxim Heijndijk wrote:

   

Name: xlogmaster   Relocations: (not relocateable)

* do okt 24 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.6.0-7mdk

- Rebuilt for Mandrake 9.0 / MandrakeClub.
- Added BuildRequires for gcc 2.96.
- Fixed bindir.
- Fixed datbase dir.
- Fixed manfile permissions.
- Removed gtkrc files.
 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought nothing was to be built with GCC
2.96 any more but Mozilla (and Galeon etc), which need it for plugin
compatibility.
   


Well, I didn't know that. This one doesn't build with 3.2.

 

could you provide me with the src.rpm meanwhile? I want to take a look 
at those build issues:)

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer
> > On other thing , you can use flash without paying 350 euros to
> > Macromedia, I mean, if you are honest.
>
> search : http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=flash+macromedia§ion=projects
Oh, i'm sorry, I didn't reread my mail, i ve said that you can't do flash 
without paying.
And, in fact, it is not true, you can use ming.

But, flash is very graphic ( didn't say easy ), and i'm pretty sure that a 
good software can do much more than it. I mean, some thing such a scripting, 
plugins, and so on.

Now there is SVG, this type of tools should appear, no ?

SVG norm is very interesting, I hope it will make flash disappear ;)
Maybe in 3 years ?

And, to be honest, most web site do not use Flash.
Web site of web designers, movies, and that's all.
I don't say that it is bad, but it is badly used...

So, the lack of support of flash is not really a problem, and Macromedia is 
offering a plug in ( not a very good one, but it could be worst ).

Some people will always have something to say on Linux, and say that a 
firewall is useless,but  be very happy to have ICF ( Windows XP firewall ).
And say that now, they don't need to switch to linux.
If they pay for crossweavers plugins and for hancom office, they will have a 
better os with almost everything they need.

" But, what ? to pay for a software ? what a crazy idea ! "


Mick




Re: [Cooker] Cooker and ACPI on a ThinkPad A22p

2002-11-13 Thread Randy Welch
Richard Tango-Lowy wrote:

I have an A22p and I'll be happy to try the new kernel to confirm the
behavior you get. Does ACPI give you any working power management?


It doesn't seem do any power management per se.  I haven't verfied that 
screen blanking or disk spindown occours yet.  I'll check.

-randy





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread J. Greenlees
hmm, the lack of graphics problem isn't news to me. ~g~ sure there are a 
lot of graphics apps, but only the gimp is of the same quality as most 
windows based graphics apps.

pointing out that there are roughly an equal number of people using 
linux ( all distros ) and macs to these non linux software companies may 
get them to port, but nothing else will.

reading the configuration files from windows at install of LM isn't as 
simple as it sounds.. with the weirdness in the different windows 
versions. and the xp ntfs that isn't read by linux yet.

Jason,
add Autodesk, Discreet, Mcneel & Associates, Maxon, actually all 
graphics app companies for windows graphics, to your list of arrogant 
windows only companies. ( Autocad, 3D Studio Max & Combustion, 
Rhinoceros Nurbs Modelling, Cinema 4D, the respective apps of the 
companies listed )

ease of installing post market apps is something windows is good for, 
but with most linux apps even the graphical front end to urpmi works 
fine. if linux was only as capable as windows, then it could fit onto 
one cd and there wouldn't be multiple cds involved in installing apps.

just my $0.02

Jason Greenwood wrote:
I agree 100%. I work in an office that does primarily web design and 
hosting. There are Mac Titanium G4's (running OSX) and PC's running 
Windows. This is because about 90% of the work is done in Dreamweaver, 
Freehand, Flash etc. Until there are viable OSS options (or a Linux port 
by Adobe and Macromedia, two of the most arrogant software companies in 
the world) this is how it will stay. I myself run ML because I don't use 
any graphic design software but if I did, I'd be stuck. At home I dual 
boot for this very reason...Sad but true.

My .002c worth.

Jason Greenwood

Faraj Meir wrote:

Before telling what suck  (for win$ user)I would like to tell what to do for
porting them to unix...
Doing better things is essential  but not sufficient since users having
already configured computers
do not want to reconfigure all things again in linux.
I think that porting their configuration to linux option is a good thing:
like their favorite folder , their mails , mail folders , config... ,
shortcut to my Document 
networks setting (adsl connection lan etc)...
User that got all thingy better and unchanged a lot would be ported to linux
smoothlier that not.

second what sucks ?

I ask friends I got some answers :
"il ont essaye avec le srpm

mais bn cest qd meme le bordel"

I think the same it's to hard to install things because of dependancy , told
to windows user : you want to install a dvd prog , with descss enabled go to
plf (is ok) take libdcss go to contrib (what another things to do?)and the
version x is needed for this ... blabla...

it's not ok at all it's to complicate ...

another sucking problems :

do you want to create flash?

excuse me this is a propriatary software and wine will be in version 1.0 in
2030 , it will execute  it by this date smoothly without problem and without
waiting few minute before seeing it in the screen with very bad fontsetc
.

   same things for : dreamweaver , photoshop , kazaa , all adobe and
all macromedia thingy 
   you will said their are some remplacement , I and other windows user
will ask you they sucks...

  I think that when wine will be 1.0 and will be fast in executing
windows program (most windows common program)
  and eay on installation and good integration .
at this time windows user will go out from windows and come to linux ...

Meir Faraj

 

True, but Win's original post was made for a different purpose, contained
   

in
 

these two lines:

   We are talking here about those little annoying things that make
   windows users say linux sucks.

The WINE people are now doing stuff like taking the top downloads from
   

Tucows,
 

installing them on a clean system and seeing if WINE does The Right
   

Thing(tm)
 

with them.

If Mandrake wants to retain a reputation for ease of use, it will also
   

need to
 

retain a propensity for making the tools do The Right Thing(tm) every
   

time.
 

Cheers; Leon



   




 







Re: [Cooker] terminal output from KDE apps

2002-11-13 Thread David Walser
--- Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Le Jeudi 14 Novembre 2002 01:07, David Walser a
> écrit :
> > Hi Laurent, when you run KDE apps from a terminal,
> > they are pretty verbose, you can see for example
> what
> > PIDs are being launched and terminated.  I think
> this
> > is good and useful, but you don't get this
> behavior on
> > other distros.  How did you get your KDE to be so
> > verbose?  It looks like it has something to do
> with
> > kdebug, but I can't quite figure it out.
> Didn't you noticed KDE package are currently even
> larger that usually :-) ?
> They are all build with debug activated, as it is a
> not a final release.

Yeah I noticed that, but does KDE know what compiler
flags it's compiled with and changed the default
kdebug configuration?  I think this is a seperate
issue.  Also, I think Mandrake's KDE packages, even in
stable releases, have generally been this verbose.

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Re: [Cooker] new rpm and unpackaged files

2002-11-13 Thread David Walser
--- Han Boetes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Gwenole Beauchesne ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
> wrote:
> > And who wrote this? Oh yes, Olivier. :)
> >
> > >How do you deal with this type of files, all are
> packaged under %doc,
> > >but rpm-build failed: (actually I `rm` it in
> spec)
> >
> > rm it from where? Under $RPM_BUILD_ROOT? Then
> that's normal, %doc file
> > is not meant to have file "installed" under
> $RPM_BUILD_ROOT.
> >
> > So, if you have in your build dir, saysNEWS,
> simply %doc NEWS, don't
> > install it. This behavior hasn't changed.
> 
> 14:29   mpol| duh, rpm now complains about files
> which are installed but unpackaged
> 14:29   mpol| I never ran into that before. it's
> new?
> 14:34Han| mpol, indeed that is new.
> 14:34Han| The script it not so good. It
> should just warn.

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Re: [Cooker] WTF?

2002-11-13 Thread Ben Reser
On Thu, Nov 14, 2002 at 04:21:53AM +0100, Oden Eriksson wrote:
> Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files 
> /home/oden/RPM/temp/bind-chroot-8.3.3-root
> error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
>/usr/share/man/man3/getaddrinfo.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/gethostbyname.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/getipnodebyname.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/getnameinfo.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/getnetent.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/resolver.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man7/mailaddr.7.bz2
> 
> 
> RPM build errors:
> Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
>/usr/share/man/man3/getaddrinfo.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/gethostbyname.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/getipnodebyname.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/getnameinfo.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/getnetent.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man3/resolver.3.bz2
>/usr/share/man/man7/mailaddr.7.bz2
> Well..., anyway. Those who need this update badly can get the files here:
> 
> http://d-srv.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-chroot-8.3.3-3mdk.i586.rpm
> http://d-srv.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-chroot-utils-8.3.3-3mdk.i586.rpm
> http://d-srv.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-chroot-devel-8.3.3-3mdk.i586.rpm
> http://d-srv.com/Cooker/SRPMS/bind-chroot-8.3.3-3mdk.src.rpm

Mandrake's rpm now checks for files that are installed in the %install
section but are not included in the %files section.  Rather than just
warning you about this.  rpm just flat out fails to build.  Frankly I
think this is an idiotic change.  But I'm really not in the mood to
start the argument about it.  

You can add:
%define _unpackaged_files_terminate_build 0
to your spec file to disable this check.

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Re: [Cooker] new rpm and unpackaged files

2002-11-13 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 23:11:47 +
Olivier Thauvin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> How do you deal with this type of files, all are packaged under %doc,
> but rpm-build failed: (actually I `rm` it in spec)

For those I have built that dup this behaviour I have used
rm -rfd  $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/xx/xx
Done following %install but prior to %makeinstalll


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[Cooker] WTF?

2002-11-13 Thread Oden Eriksson
Hi.

I was about to update my bind-chroot packages, but got this "error":

Obsoletes: bind-devel = 8.3.3-3mdk bind-chroot-devel = 8.3.3-3mdk
Checking for unpackaged file(s): /usr/lib/rpm/check-files 
/home/oden/RPM/temp/bind-chroot-8.3.3-root
error: Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
   /usr/share/man/man3/getaddrinfo.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/gethostbyname.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/getipnodebyname.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/getnameinfo.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/getnetent.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/resolver.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man7/mailaddr.7.bz2


RPM build errors:
Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
   /usr/share/man/man3/getaddrinfo.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/gethostbyname.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/getipnodebyname.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/getnameinfo.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/getnetent.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man3/resolver.3.bz2
   /usr/share/man/man7/mailaddr.7.bz2

Well..., anyway. Those who need this update badly can get the files here:

http://d-srv.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-chroot-8.3.3-3mdk.i586.rpm
http://d-srv.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-chroot-utils-8.3.3-3mdk.i586.rpm
http://d-srv.com/Cooker/RPMS/bind-chroot-devel-8.3.3-3mdk.i586.rpm
http://d-srv.com/Cooker/SRPMS/bind-chroot-8.3.3-3mdk.src.rpm

Changelog entry:

* Wed Nov 13 2002 Oden Eriksson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 8.3.3-3mdk
- security fix for multiple flaws in the code (P10) possible addresses;
  CAN-2002-1219, CAN-2002-1220 and CAN-2002-1221, this is something
  for mandrakesecurity to sort out on paid workingtime ;)
- updated S6 to _show_ a fake version to fool the script kiddies even
  more, root should change this later to maybe 9.2.2?
  updated root cache file from internic
- added debug to S3 (service named-chroot debug) to enable the debug
  channel


Chears.
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[Cooker] gnome desktop redundancy

2002-11-13 Thread aacton


Every time I log into GNOME, I get a new floppy icon and new CD-ROM icon.  They
are named with an incremental number in brackets.

Anyone else have this problem?

Austin
Current Cooker, GNOME only




Re: [Cooker] Cooker and ACPI on a ThinkPad A22p

2002-11-13 Thread Richard Tango-Lowy
I have an A22p and I'll be happy to try the new kernel to confirm the
behavior you get. Does ACPI give you any working power management?

Rich

On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 02:37, Randy Welch wrote:
> Tried cooker out on my laptop and noticed that I could not select any 
> power management items with kde.  When I selected power management kde 
> displayed this:
> 
> Your computer seems to have a partial ACPI installation. ACPI was 
> probably enabled, but some of the sub-options were not - you need to 
> enable at least 'AC Adaptor' and 'Control Method Battery' and then 
> rebuild your kernel.
> 
> Needless to say nothing happens when I close the lid
> 
> I get the following out from dmesg ( ACPI ) related:
> 
> 
> zone(2): 0 pages.
> ACPI: RSDP (v000 PTLTD  ) @ 0x000f7160
> ACPI: RSDT (v001 PTLTDRSDT   01540.04208) @ 0x17ff5309
> ACPI: FADT (v001 IBMTP-A21p  01540.04208) @ 0x17ffeb65
> ACPI: BOOT (v001 PTLTD  $SBFTBL$ 01540.04208) @ 0x17ffebd9
> ACPI: DSDT (v001 IBMTP-A21p  01540.04208) @ 0x
> ACPI: BIOS passes blacklist
> ACPI: MADT not present
> IBM machine detected. Enabling interrupts during APM calls.
> Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=linux ro root=308 quiet devfs=mount 
> hdc=ide-scsi
> ide_setup: hdc=ide-scsi
> Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling.
> 
> 
> ACPI: Subsystem revision 20020918
> PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfd94f, last bus=7
> PCI: Using configuration type 1
> ACPI: Interpreter enabled
> ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
> ACPI: System [ACPI] (supports S0 S1 S3 S4 S5)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11)
> ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (00:00)
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
> ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.AGP_._PRT]
> ACPI: Power Resource [PSER] (off)
> ACPI: Power Resource [PSIO] (on)
> ACPI: Embedded Controller [EC] (gpe 9)
> PCI: Probing PCI hardware
> PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
> PCI: if you experience problems, try using option 'pci=noacpi' or even 
> 'acpi=off
> 
> 
> Nov 12 22:55:01 randyspc kernel: apm: BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 
> (Driver version 1.16)
> Nov 12 22:55:01 randyspc kernel: apm: overridden by ACPI.
> Nov 12 22:55:01 randyspc kernel: Starting kswapd
> 
> Thought you might want to know.
> 
> -randy
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Cooker] Re: perl rpm macrs (was spamassassin-2.43-3mdk)

2002-11-13 Thread Ben Reser
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:04:42PM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> * Wed Nov 13 2002 Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.43-3mdk
> 
> - from  Chris Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :
>   - build cleanly on mdk82, defines for perl_sitelib, perl_man1dir and
> perl_man3dir should be realy in rpm's macrodefs.

perl_sitelib was removed when they switched to perl_vendorlib.  Might be
nice to add it in but I think part of the point is to get packagers to
use vendor instead of the site tree. 

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Re: [Cooker] MU (9.0)

2002-11-13 Thread Ben Reser
On Wed, Nov 13, 2002 at 05:30:21PM +0100, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> Actually, I think a whole dist upgrade was not so much "working"
> before the 9.0 version of urpmi, or at least partially broken,
> that's why.

So doing a distribution upgrade via urpmi from say 8.2 to 9.0 is
supported now?

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Re: [Cooker] terminal output from KDE apps

2002-11-13 Thread David Walluck
Guillaume Rousse wrote:

Le Jeudi 14 Novembre 2002 01:07, David Walser a icrit :


Hi Laurent, when you run KDE apps from a terminal,
they are pretty verbose, you can see for example what
PIDs are being launched and terminated.  I think this
is good and useful, but you don't get this behavior on
other distros.  How did you get your KDE to be so
verbose?  It looks like it has something to do with
kdebug, but I can't quite figure it out.


Didn't you noticed KDE package are currently even larger that usually :-) ?
They are all build with debug activated, as it is a not a final release.


I hate it. I had to uninstall all but the very basic KDE packages 
because they are now much too large now for my hard drive :/

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[Cooker] konqueror crashes visiting http://www.hp.com

2002-11-13 Thread Salane
No backtrace generated on crash but here is the konsole output
The application konqueror crashed and caused the signal 11

konqueror http://www.hp.com
kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( KURIFilter/Plugin, )
kio (KTrader): Returning 4 offers
kurifilter (plugins): (20405) Keywords Engine: Loading config...
kurifilter (plugins): (20405) Internet Keyword Enabled: true
kurifilter (plugins): (20405) Selected IKWS Engine(s):
kurifilter (plugins): (20405) Internet Keywords Fallback Search Engine: google
konqueror: KonqMisc::createNewWindow url=http://www.hp.com
konqueror: void KonqMisc::createBrowserWindowFromProfile()
konqueror: 
path=/home/salane/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles/webbrowsing,filename=webbrowsing,url=http://www.hp.com
kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( Browser/View, )
kio (KTrader): Returning 23 offers
libkonq: ## loaded: 90 entries.
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::enableAllActions false
kparts: MainWindow::createGUI, part=(nil)
konqueror: KonqViewManager::clear
konqueror: Trying to create view for "text/html"
kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( text/html,Application )
kio (KTrader): Returning 7 offers
kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( text/html,KParts/ReadOnlyPart )
kio (KTrader): Returning 2 offers
konqueror: Found requested service khtml
konqueror: Trying to open lib for requested service khtml
kdecore (KLibLoader): library libkhtml.la not found under 'module' but under 
'lib'
konqueror: KonqView::switchView
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/kget_plug_in.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : 
/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/khtmlsettingsplugin.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_babelfish.rc 
!
kparts: found Plugin : 
/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_domtreeviewer.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_validators.rc 
!
kparts: found Plugin : 
/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_webarchiver.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/uachangerplugin.rc !
kparts: load plugin khtml_kget
kparts: load plugin khtmlsettingsplugin
kparts: load plugin babelfish
kparts: load plugin domtreeviewer
kparts: load plugin validators
kparts: load plugin webarchiver
kparts: load plugin UserAgentChanger
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::insertChildView 0x81b6a78
konqueror: Trying to create view for "text/html"
kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( text/html,Application )
kio (KTrader): Returning 7 offers
kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( text/html,KParts/ReadOnlyPart )
kio (KTrader): Returning 2 offers
konqueror: Found requested service khtml
konqueror: Trying to open lib for requested service khtml
konqueror: KonqView::switchView
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/kget_plug_in.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : 
/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/khtmlsettingsplugin.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_babelfish.rc 
!
kparts: found Plugin : 
/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_domtreeviewer.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_validators.rc 
!
kparts: found Plugin : 
/usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_webarchiver.rc !
kparts: found Plugin : /usr/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/uachangerplugin.rc !
kparts: load plugin khtml_kget
kparts: load plugin khtmlsettingsplugin
kparts: load plugin babelfish
kparts: load plugin domtreeviewer
kparts: load plugin validators
kparts: load plugin webarchiver
kparts: load plugin UserAgentChanger
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::insertChildView 0x820f2f0
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::enableAllActions true
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::viewCountChanged
kparts: 0x80dcd90 emitting activePartChanged 0x81b7cf8
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::slotPartActivated 0x81b7cf8 khtml
konqueror: New current view 0x81b6a78
kparts: MainWindow::createGUI, part=0x81b7cf8 KHTMLPart
konqueror: KonqView::setLocationBarURL  this=0x81b6a78
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::setLocationBarURL: url =
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::openURL : url = 'http://www.hp.com'  serviceType='' 
view=0x81b6a78
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::abortLoading()
konqueror: KonqView::stop()
konqueror: setLocationBarURL : url = http://www.hp.com
konqueror: KonqMainWindow::setLocationBarURL: url = http://www.hp.com
konqueror: trying openView for http://www.hp.com (servicetype )
konqueror: Creating new konqrun for http://www.hp.com req.typedURL=
konqueror: [void KonqView::setLoading(bool, bool)] loading=true 
hasPending=false
konqueror: currentView=0x81b6a78
konqueror: docContainer=0x8198c68
konqueror: KonqFrameTabs [KonqFrameTabs pointer (0x8198bf0) to unnamed widget, 
geometry=100x30+0+0] visible=0 activeChild=0x81a4704
konqueror:   KonqFrame [KonqFrame pointer (0x81a4690) to widget KonqFrame, 
geometry=98x28+1+1] visible=0 containing view 0x81b6a78 visible=0 and part 
0x81b7cf8 whose widget is a KHTMLView
konqueror:   KonqFrame [KonqFrame pointer (0x8208c70) to widget KonqFrame, 
geometry=98x28+1+1] visible=0 cont

Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 22:09, Faraj Meir wrote:

> I know I speak for windows user  what do not want to use command line at all
> and
> that do not know what is plf (why ask him to know that plf exist , it is not
> mentionned officially ...)
> contrib 
> it's hard for a windows user it's just the problem ...
> tell me that rpmdrake is searching also @ contrib + plf I will told you it's
> ok witch is not the case
> and not documented in easy help , windows user are user that did not want to
> read long faq etc for viewing only a
> dvd ... or playing a game  etc
> windows user understang get this install execute next next next finish .
> it works .
> it's more simple
> go to plsf tape urpmi.admedia
> missing package (what?)
> Aille you've to add also contrib change 2 time install cd's etc...
> it's too many thing to do for a windows user ...
> 
> It's simply sucks for him...

We know all this, but there's nothing to be done about it. Get American
patent laws changed and donate $1m to Mandrake so they can take on all
the people who contribute software full-time. Other than that, we're
stuck.
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] terminal output from KDE apps

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Jeudi 14 Novembre 2002 01:07, David Walser a écrit :
> Hi Laurent, when you run KDE apps from a terminal,
> they are pretty verbose, you can see for example what
> PIDs are being launched and terminated.  I think this
> is good and useful, but you don't get this behavior on
> other distros.  How did you get your KDE to be so
> verbose?  It looks like it has something to do with
> kdebug, but I can't quite figure it out.
Didn't you noticed KDE package are currently even larger that usually :-) ?
They are all build with debug activated, as it is a not a final release.
-- 
Disks are always full. It is futile to try to get more disk space. Data 
expands to fill any void. 
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Re: [Cooker] new rpm and unpackaged files

2002-11-13 Thread Han Boetes
Gwenole Beauchesne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
> And who wrote this? Oh yes, Olivier. :)
>
> >How do you deal with this type of files, all are packaged under %doc,
> >but rpm-build failed: (actually I `rm` it in spec)
>
> rm it from where? Under $RPM_BUILD_ROOT? Then that's normal, %doc file
> is not meant to have file "installed" under $RPM_BUILD_ROOT.
>
> So, if you have in your build dir, saysNEWS, simply %doc NEWS, don't
> install it. This behavior hasn't changed.

14:29   mpol| duh, rpm now complains about files which are installed but unpackaged
14:29   mpol| I never ran into that before. it's new?
14:34Han| mpol, indeed that is new.
14:34Han| The script it not so good. It should just warn.
14:34   mpol| hmm, even when I rm those files it just stops after 
/usr/lib/rpm/check-files
14:36   mpol| trying another package. maybe something is brken here
14:36   mpol| hum, it just works...
14:38Han| it's not broken
14:39   mpol| then something else is broken. weird
14:40   mpol| trying the previous version then
14:40Han| rm -rf /usr/lib/rpm/check-files && ln -s /usr/bin/true 
/usr/lib/rpm/check-files
14:40   mpol| hum, yes, that might be a nice test too.

:)



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[Cooker] terminal output from KDE apps

2002-11-13 Thread David Walser
Hi Laurent, when you run KDE apps from a terminal,
they are pretty verbose, you can see for example what
PIDs are being launched and terminated.  I think this
is good and useful, but you don't get this behavior on
other distros.  How did you get your KDE to be so
verbose?  It looks like it has something to do with
kdebug, but I can't quite figure it out.

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Re: [Cooker] new rpm and unpackaged files

2002-11-13 Thread Olivier Thauvin
Le Mercredi 13 Novembre 2002 23:22, Gwenole Beauchesne a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> > How do you deal with this type of files, all are packaged under %doc,
> > but
> > rpm-build failed: (actually I `rm` it in spec)
>
> rm it from where? Under $RPM_BUILD_ROOT? Then that's normal, %doc file
> is not meant to have file "installed" under $RPM_BUILD_ROOT.
>
> So, if you have in your build dir, saysNEWS, simply %doc NEWS, don't
> install it. This behavior hasn't changed.

I retranslate my question:

%make install install this files on $RPM_BUILD_ROOT/usr/share/doc, but better 
place is in %doc (wich have %version-%release), before latest update of rpm, 
all files in /usr/share/doc was not list in %files section, but we had %doc 
doc/*. But this is not possible because building failed now. I want just 
confirmation about the better way to build without including this files.

Bye, thanks for this quick answer ;)
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Re: [Cooker] new rpm and unpackaged files

2002-11-13 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
Hi,


How do you deal with this type of files, all are packaged under %doc, 
but
rpm-build failed: (actually I `rm` it in spec)

rm it from where? Under $RPM_BUILD_ROOT? Then that's normal, %doc file 
is not meant to have file "installed" under $RPM_BUILD_ROOT.

So, if you have in your build dir, saysNEWS, simply %doc NEWS, don't 
install it. This behavior hasn't changed.

Bye,
Gwenole.




[Cooker] new rpm and unpackaged files

2002-11-13 Thread Olivier Thauvin
How do you deal with this type of files, all are packaged under %doc, but 
rpm-build failed: (actually I `rm` it in spec)

RPM build errors:
Installed (but unpackaged) file(s) found:
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/AUTHORS
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/COPYING
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/MBF.txt
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/MBFFAQ.txt
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/NEWS
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/README
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/README.compat
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/README.demos
   /usr/share/doc/prboom/boom.txt

[nanardon@virgo SPECS]$ rpm -q rpm
rpm-4.0.4-20mdk

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[Cooker] 2.4.19-19mdk & swsusp: one bug

2002-11-13 Thread Joan Tur
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I've found one bug: after resuming from hibernating the laptop the usb devices 
won't work (usbview shows nothing but the hub roots)...
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Faraj Meir


> On other thing , you can use flash without paying 350 euros to Macromedia,
I
> mean, if you are honest.

search : http://freshmeat.net/search/?q=flash+macromedia§ion=projects






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Faraj Meir

> Somoen mentinned a tool called tranfugdrake, which do this.
> After all, it could be a great thing no ?
> At least for some basics things, such a internet connection.
>
yep but not only ...
generaly anything is better that nothing a tool like this will be great
even it's uncomplete...



> even if you say there is remplacement on windows, they will say it sucks.
> Everybody use winzip, and it sucks.
no , I doesn't like at all winzip (on windows I use windows commander) .
it's not true each  version of mandrake I go to it test each beta in hope to
del
the windows partition , I and a lot of other would be glad to do that but
really
linux is not simple as windows and not yet for daily use .

>
> On other thing , you can use flash without paying 350 euros to Macromedia,
I
> mean, if you are honest.
> But most people are not honest.
> Sad but true.
yep crack it ;-) or make your company buy it for you .

> They will use windows, just because everybody do that.
> They use winzip, because everybody use it.
> Of course a cracked version, but they don't mind, they are not alone.
> We can't do a thing for them.
>
> What we can do, is to make our families, our friends, some people who
don't
> use a computer, who don't mind typing their text on word or in abiword.
>
>
>
> >I think that when wine will be 1.0 and will be fast in executing
> > windows program (most windows common program)
> >and eay on installation and good integration .
> >  at this time windows user will go out from windows and come to linux
...
> Forget it.
> I think that Wine will never be ready, or at least never for the last
version
> of windows.
> We need to have native software .
>
>
> Mick
>






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Faraj Meir

very good answer 
windows user you have to call and  ask company to port programs to linux or
port them  ;-)

you will got all windows user with this , really ?

oh yes  , I forgot windows user have a lot of interress to spend time in
supporting linux 

it's just what suck with linux , you want something contribute it !!!
what ?
the windows user MUST be a programmer to use linux ?
or make a call and wait 
(it's what  windows user will understand from youre answers)

really , your serious ?
As I said the only alternative I see is wine going to v1.0 and working...
it really seams to take a while before this to hapen

and for company porting theire apps forget it ...
Linux seems not give them any gains...

Meir Faraj

>
  You pay for that software? if so, call the company you buy it from
  and ask them to port. Outside of that...nothing mandrake, the cooker
  people or any linux people can do about it.

>






Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Faraj Meir

 > you use urpmi.addmedia to add a contrib and plf source to your
 > system, then do "urpmi whateverpackage" and let it deal with the
 > dependancies. I don't see the difficulty in that. (Yes, you can do
 > it with rpmdrake too...just don't ask me how).
I know I speak for windows user  what do not want to use command line at all
and
that do not know what is plf (why ask him to know that plf exist , it is not
mentionned officially ...)
contrib 
it's hard for a windows user it's just the problem ...
tell me that rpmdrake is searching also @ contrib + plf I will told you it's
ok witch is not the case
and not documented in easy help , windows user are user that did not want to
read long faq etc for viewing only a
dvd ... or playing a game  etc
windows user understang get this install execute next next next finish .
it works .
it's more simple
go to plsf tape urpmi.admedia
missing package (what?)
Aille you've to add also contrib change 2 time install cd's etc...
it's too many thing to do for a windows user ...

It's simply sucks for him...






Re: [Cooker] Type in german drakx

2002-11-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Marco Rothley wrote:


Hello!

When I install cooker there is written "Haben Sie noch etwas Gerduld" when it 
is installing the packages. The word Gerduld is wrong. It has to be "Geduld".

Is this list the right place for this or is there an extra list for 
translation issues?

Marco.



 

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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake won't work on exported X display's

2002-11-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:


Per Øyvind Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 

[hawkeye@mainframe hawkeye]$ sudo rpmdrake
This program cannot be run in console mode.
   


the problem is with environment variables transmitted or not by
the sudo program. in particular, a graphical program needs
DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY.


I think those should be right, after all every other program starts, it 
should have gotten the right environment variables via xdmcp, should'nt it?


i've fixed console-helper because it didn't preserve those
variables right, but i haven't looked at sudo (which i don't use
personnally).

 

or when just launching 'rpmdrake' the gtk dialog which asks for
root password shows up, then it'll bitch again when typed the
password...
   


hum, strange, works for me... other graphical console-helper
tools do work right? (mcc, userdrake)


yupp, as I said, rpmdrake from 8.2 worked without any problems 5 min 
earlier, then I upgraded and then it would'nt work anymore...


 

it worked just fine moments ago with the old 8.2 rpmdrake
   



 



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Re: [Cooker] QT AA font's b0rken

2002-11-13 Thread scott chevalley
I'm doing that now... hasn't finished yet, I don't think...

Scott

Brian Smith wrote:


Same thing here. ldd shows that /usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so is not 
linked to libXft.
I just downloaded the source from trolltech and rebuilt with the 
patches I posted a week or so ago, and it seems to be working correctly.

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:37:51 -0500
 Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer


>  I think that porting their configuration to linux option is a good thing:
>  like their favorite folder , their mails , mail folders , config... ,
> shortcut to my Document 
> networks setting (adsl connection lan etc)...
> User that got all thingy better and unchanged a lot would be ported to
> linux smoothlier that not.
Somoen mentinned a tool called tranfugdrake, which do this.
After all, it could be a great thing no ?
At least for some basics things, such a internet connection.


> do you want to create flash?
>
> excuse me this is a propriatary software and wine will be in version 1.0 in
> 2030 , it will execute  it by this date smoothly without problem and
> without waiting few minute before seeing it in the screen with very bad
> fontsetc .
> same things for : dreamweaver , photoshop , kazaa , all adobe and
> all macromedia thingy 
> you will said their are some remplacement , I and other windows
> user will ask you they sucks...
even if you say there is remplacement on windows, they will say it sucks.
Everybody use winzip, and it sucks.
I have seen freeware which were far better (more formats, and so on ).
But everybody still use winzip.


On other thing , you can use flash without paying 350 euros to Macromedia, I 
mean, if you are honest.
But most people are not honest.
Sad but true.
They will use windows, just because everybody do that.
They use winzip, because everybody use it.
Of course a cracked version, but they don't mind, they are not alone.
We can't do a thing for them.

What we can do, is to make our families, our friends, some people who don't 
use a computer, who don't mind typing their text on word or in abiword.



>I think that when wine will be 1.0 and will be fast in executing
> windows program (most windows common program)
>and eay on installation and good integration .
>  at this time windows user will go out from windows and come to linux ...
Forget it.
I think that Wine will never be ready, or at least never for the last version 
of windows.
We need to have native software .


Mick




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Vox

This time Faraj Meir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> I think the same it's to hard to install things because of dependancy , told
> to windows user : you want to install a dvd prog , with descss enabled go to
> plf (is ok) take libdcss go to contrib (what another things to do?)and the
> version x is needed for this ... blabla...

  you use urpmi.addmedia to add a contrib and plf source to your
  system, then do "urpmi whateverpackage" and let it deal with the
  dependancies. I don't see the difficulty in that. (Yes, you can do
  it with rpmdrake too...just don't ask me how).

> same things for : dreamweaver , photoshop , kazaa , all adobe and
> all macromedia thingy 
> you will said their are some remplacement , I and other windows user
> will ask you they sucks...

  You pay for that software? if so, call the company you buy it from
  and ask them to port. Outside of that...nothing mandrake, the cooker
  people or any linux people can do about it.

  Vox

-- 
Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs.  Kind
of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_
technology than everyone else.   -- Donald B. Marti Jr.



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[Cooker] [Contrib-RPMS] ecasound, tkeca

2002-11-13 Thread Maxim Heijndijk
Uploaded to incoming and club:

Name: ecasound Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.0_pre5Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 22:32:25 CET
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Sound Source RPM: (none)
Size: 692505   License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.eca.cx/ecasound
Summary : Ecasound - Multitrack audio processing tool
Description :
Ecasound is a software package designed for multitrack audio
processing. It can be used for simple tasks like audio playback,
recording and format conversions, as well as for multitrack effect
processing, mixing, recording and signal recycling. Ecasound supports
a wide range of audio inputs, outputs and effect algorithms.
Effects and audio objects can be combined in various ways, and their
parameters can be controlled by operator objects like oscillators
and MIDI-CCs.

* za okt 19 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.2.0_pre5-1mdk

- /usr/lib/*.a
- 2.2.0_pre5

Name: tkecaRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1.0.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1 Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 18:26:48 CET
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Sound Source RPM: (none)
Size: 13978License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/tkeca/
Summary : Tcl/Tk Frontend for the ecasound audio processing tool.
Description :
This is a graphical frontend to Ecasound.

* wo nov 13 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0.0-1mdk

- 1.0.0.

* vr okt 18 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.8.2-1mdk

- Initial wrap for MandrakeClub.

-- 
Best regards, M@X.

* Climate Control Psychedelic Soundscapes - http://go.to/cchq/
* Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
* Photography Pages - http://home.wanadoo.nl/cchq/photo/photo.html

System is up 12:48




Re: [Cooker] Compiling XFree86 from CVS, building a rpm, failsafe boot

2002-11-13 Thread Harri Pasanen
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 10:23, you wrote:
> Harri Pasanen wrote:
> > So what is the actual difference between the failsafe and the
> > normal boot methods?  I tried editing inittab to have the default
> > runlevel to be 3, and then typing startx, but that also froze X.
>
> Failsafe does not use devfs. But should be that the problem?
>
> Try to change the normal boot entry in lilo.conf to contain
> ("append") "devfs=nomount".
>
> When X works after a reboot normally, then there are some strage
> interactions with devfs.
>

It was devfs, I tried to initialize dri, and I guess with no devfs the 
/dev/dri entry was missing:

drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)

and that saved me from crashing.

Turns out that the /lib/modules/2.4.19-16mdk/kernel/drivers/char/drm/ 
stuff is part of the kernel rpm, although it is built as part of 
XFree86.   This makes uncoupling X upgrade from kernel version harder, 
at least if drm is used.

Wanting to turn on dri, I compiled the kernel drm modules in XFree86, 
and installed those by hand.   Now I still don't have it working for 
some reason, it still fails with:

(==) RADEON(0): Write-combining range (0xe000,0x400)
(WW) RADEON(0): Cannot read colourmap from VGA.  Will restore with 
default
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
drmOpenDevice: minor is 0
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: open result is -1, (No such device)
drmOpenDevice: Open failed
[drm] failed to load kernel module "radeon"
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] drmOpen failed
(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] DRIScreenInit failed.  Disabling DRI.

But now I can at least boot with devfs=mount.
So I don't have 3d acceleration, but everything in 2d seems OK.

Another small problem I have, is that after reboot going to kdm, the 
keyboard is dead, or dies after about 10 keystrokes.   Selecting from 
the KDM menu Restart-X with the mouse cures this - afterwards the 
keyboard works fine without any problems.

Btw. is it so that dri is imported/merged to XFree86 sources on regular 
intervals?  Would I be better of going directly to DRI CVS and building 
from there?

Now it seems I'm rather close at having a working Mandrake 9.0 XFree86 
rpm that groks ATI clones.  Any hints appreciated on what are the 
missing peaces in getting the 3D and the keyboard fully working are 
appreciated.

-Harri











Re: [Cooker] drakconf-themes missing file, and some suggestion for rpmdrake

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer
> So it is actally a PLF RPM, not really maintained, contact the
> maintainer and author, http://damz.net (IIRC).
There was no mention of the authors in the summarry.
But, if you click on get new themes, you have the website.
Sorry, I should have look earlier.


I think that is is important to have theme for mcc, since people would not 
have to "learn" 2 types of icons.
Of course, I may confuse them, if the same configuration icons is at 2 place.
But, far less than having two icon foir the same concept.


> > Btw, another problem is I can't see from where urpmi is downloading file.
> > I didn't found the option to show the media used for urpmi and co.
> > I know that I can force to use some media, but when i search, let's
>
> say gimp,
>
> > I don't know if it come from cooker, or from a mirror, or from a CD.
>
> # urpmq --sources gimp
> (only works as root for some reason).
I did not read the man page well, i was thinking, for some stupid reason, it 
was the same a --src of urpmi.
Thanks for the tips.


> > On mdk8.2, rpmdrake showed the sources, but, it does no more.
> >
> > I think that rpmdrake should have two modes :
> > a simple, the same as now in mdk9, and a experienced one, with
>
> information
>
> > such as files in the packages, dependencies, changelog and so on.
>
> It does. Right-click->Maximum information.
>
> > A simple menu option to switch should be enough.
>
> Context menu good enough?
Didn't see the context menu :(
I should have read the man page.

I was thinking that i knew rpmdrake, no need to read the doc...
Sorry for my question.

Mick





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windows users

2002-11-13 Thread Faraj Meir
lake of ressources ?

> We had once the transfugdrake project, aimed at transfering any
> windows configurations and documents to the linux system, but lack
> of ressources made it stalled.
> 
> -- 
> Warly
> 
> 





Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Jason Greenwood




I agree 100%. I work in an office that does primarily web design and hosting.
There are Mac Titanium G4's (running OSX) and PC's running Windows. This
is because about 90% of the work is done in Dreamweaver, Freehand, Flash
etc. Until there are viable OSS options (or a Linux port by Adobe and Macromedia,
two of the most arrogant software companies in the world) this is how it
will stay. I myself run ML because I don't use any graphic design software
but if I did, I'd be stuck. At home I dual boot for this very reason...Sad
but true.

My .002c worth.

Jason Greenwood

Faraj Meir wrote:

  Before telling what suck  (for win$ user)I would like to tell what to do for
porting them to unix...
Doing better things is essential  but not sufficient since users having
already configured computers
do not want to reconfigure all things again in linux.
 I think that porting their configuration to linux option is a good thing:
 like their favorite folder , their mails , mail folders , config... ,
shortcut to my Document 
networks setting (adsl connection lan etc)...
User that got all thingy better and unchanged a lot would be ported to linux
smoothlier that not.

second what sucks ?

I ask friends I got some answers :
"il ont essaye avec le srpm

mais bn cest qd meme le bordel"

I think the same it's to hard to install things because of dependancy , told
to windows user : you want to install a dvd prog , with descss enabled go to
plf (is ok) take libdcss go to contrib (what another things to do?)and the
version x is needed for this ... blabla...

it's not ok at all it's to complicate ...

another sucking problems :

do you want to create flash?

excuse me this is a propriatary software and wine will be in version 1.0 in
2030 , it will execute  it by this date smoothly without problem and without
waiting few minute before seeing it in the screen with very bad fontsetc
.

same things for : dreamweaver , photoshop , kazaa , all adobe and
all macromedia thingy 
you will said their are some remplacement , I and other windows user
will ask you they sucks...

   I think that when wine will be 1.0 and will be fast in executing
windows program (most windows common program)
   and eay on installation and good integration .
 at this time windows user will go out from windows and come to linux ...

Meir Faraj

  
  
True, but Win's original post was made for a different purpose, contained

  
  in
  
  
these two lines:

We are talking here about those little annoying things that make
windows users say linux sucks.

The WINE people are now doing stuff like taking the top downloads from

  
  Tucows,
  
  
installing them on a clean system and seeing if WINE does The Right

  
  Thing(tm)
  
  
with them.

If Mandrake wants to retain a reputation for ease of use, it will also

  
  need to
  
  
retain a propensity for making the tools do The Right Thing(tm) every

  
  time.
  
  
Cheers; Leon




  
  


  





Re: [Cooker] QT AA font's b0rken

2002-11-13 Thread Brian Smith
Same thing here. ldd shows that 
/usr/lib/qt3/lib/libqt-mt.so is not linked to libXft. 

I just downloaded the source from trolltech and rebuilt 
with the patches I posted a week or so ago, and it seems 
to be working correctly.

On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 15:37:51 -0500
 Jason Straight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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Seems that AA font's don't work now with QT after update 
to final.




Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers[linux , what sucks ?]

2002-11-13 Thread Faraj Meir
Before telling what suck  (for win$ user)I would like to tell what to do for
porting them to unix...
Doing better things is essential  but not sufficient since users having
already configured computers
do not want to reconfigure all things again in linux.
 I think that porting their configuration to linux option is a good thing:
 like their favorite folder , their mails , mail folders , config... ,
shortcut to my Document 
networks setting (adsl connection lan etc)...
User that got all thingy better and unchanged a lot would be ported to linux
smoothlier that not.

second what sucks ?

I ask friends I got some answers :
"il ont essaye avec le srpm

mais bn cest qd meme le bordel"

I think the same it's to hard to install things because of dependancy , told
to windows user : you want to install a dvd prog , with descss enabled go to
plf (is ok) take libdcss go to contrib (what another things to do?)and the
version x is needed for this ... blabla...

it's not ok at all it's to complicate ...

another sucking problems :

do you want to create flash?

excuse me this is a propriatary software and wine will be in version 1.0 in
2030 , it will execute  it by this date smoothly without problem and without
waiting few minute before seeing it in the screen with very bad fontsetc
.

same things for : dreamweaver , photoshop , kazaa , all adobe and
all macromedia thingy 
you will said their are some remplacement , I and other windows user
will ask you they sucks...

   I think that when wine will be 1.0 and will be fast in executing
windows program (most windows common program)
   and eay on installation and good integration .
 at this time windows user will go out from windows and come to linux ...

Meir Faraj

> True, but Win's original post was made for a different purpose, contained
in
> these two lines:
>
> We are talking here about those little annoying things that make
> windows users say linux sucks.
>
> The WINE people are now doing stuff like taking the top downloads from
Tucows,
> installing them on a clean system and seeing if WINE does The Right
Thing(tm)
> with them.
>
> If Mandrake wants to retain a reputation for ease of use, it will also
need to
> retain a propensity for making the tools do The Right Thing(tm) every
time.
>
> Cheers; Leon
>
>
>






Re: [Cooker] QT AA font's b0rken

2002-11-13 Thread scott chevalley
Jason Straight wrote:


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Seems that AA font's don't work now with QT after update to final.

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I don't see is being linked against libXft2.so or libXft.so, which I 
think would break AA in QT.

[root@avalon-xp lib]# ldd libqt-mt.so.3.1.0
   libmng.so.1 => /usr/lib/libmng.so.1 (0x4070a000)
   libjpeg.so.62 => /usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 (0x40752000)
   libpng12.so.0 => /usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 (0x40773000)
   libz.so.1 => /lib/libz.so.1 (0x40799000)
   libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i686/libpthread.so.0 (0x407a8000)
   libGL.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1 (0x407bc000)
   libXmu.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXmu.so.6 (0x407e1000)
   libSM.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libSM.so.6 (0x407f8000)
   libICE.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libICE.so.6 (0x40801000)
   libdl.so.2 => /lib/libdl.so.2 (0x40818000)
   libXext.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 (0x4081b000)
   libX11.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.so.6 (0x4082b000)
   libXrender.so.1 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXrender.so.1 (0x408f6000)
   libfontconfig.so.1 => /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1 (0x408fc000)
   libstdc++.so.5 => /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (0x40927000)
   libm.so.6 => /lib/i686/libm.so.6 (0x409ec000)
   libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x40a0f000)
   libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/libc.so.6 (0x40a17000)
   liblcms.so.1 => /usr/lib/liblcms.so.1 (0x40b37000)
   libXt.so.6 => /usr/X11R6/lib/libXt.so.6 (0x40b57000)
   libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0x40bb)
   libexpat.so.0 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.0 (0x40c0)
   /lib/ld-linux.so.2 => /lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0x8000)

hope this helps...

Scott





Re: [Cooker] kde 3.1 rc3 - ksmserver does not restart kwin on the second desktop - showstopper ?

2002-11-13 Thread Pascal Cavy
I added a note to KDE bug 49596.

Changes submitted for bug 49596
Email sent to: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Pascal
Le Mercredi 13 Novembre 2002 19:57, Pascal Cavy a écrit :
> I waited the rc3 to post this bug, still present in rc3.
>
> I have a Maxtrox G550 - so 2 heads with 2 physical screens
> I run on latest cooker.
> XFree86 is NOT in xinerama mode
> I use service dm with kdm as desktopmanager.
>
> The problem: kwin does not start on one head (no window decoration,
> control...) I have to start a second kwin on the second display to be able
> to work.
>
> Here are the steps to reproduce the problem
>
> 1. create a fresh unix user (to get rid of kde config migration problems)
> 2. start service dm
> 3. at the kdm screen login into kde on the fresh user
> 4. start one konsole per desktop
> AT FIRST START KWIN is started OK on both desktops
> 5. logout of kde requesting to change to another user
> 6. redo step 3
>KWIN is now not started on one of the 2 Desktops...
>
> here is my .ksmserverrc after the problem:
>
> either the session are not properly saved for both screens concerning kwin
> or kwin should manage both screens ... i don't know.

-- 
Pascal
Mayyy thhee souuurcee beee with yaaa, Geeekk !




[Cooker] QT AA font's b0rken

2002-11-13 Thread Jason Straight
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Seems that AA font's don't work now with QT after update to final.

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Re: [Cooker] Type in german drakx

2002-11-13 Thread Stefan Siegel
Hello Marco

Marco Rothley schrieb:

When I install cooker there is written "Haben Sie noch etwas Gerduld" when it 
is installing the packages. The word Gerduld is wrong. It has to be "Geduld".

You're right. I'll correct it in the CVS.


Is this list the right place for this or is there an extra list for 
translation issues?

You can mail me in private when you find other typos in the _german_
translations, as I am the current maintainer.

--
_
Tschüss und bis demnächst/à bientôt,  _|_|_
   (")   *
Stefan /v\  /
 »(   )«  Penguin Powered!
 +(m-m)--+





Re: [Cooker] MU (9.0)

2002-11-13 Thread Pierre Fortin
On 13 Nov 2002 17:27:59 +0100 Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > On 12 Nov 2002 19:18:14 +0100 Guillaume Cottenceau
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > 
> > > > MandrakeUpdate simply does not work for me on 9.0; this is on a
> > > > new, freshly installed ThinkPad -- installed 8.2 and used new 9.0
> > > > upgrade procedure.  Using ethereal, I can see MU grab the list of
> > > > mirrors; then it reports a failure, yet it does not even send a
> > > > single packet on the network...
> > > 
> > > What's the error msg?
> > >  
> > > 
> > [Error adding update medium]
> >There was an error while adding the update medium via urpmi.
> >   This may be due to a broken or temporary unavailable mirror, or when
> > your
> >  Mandrake Linux version (9.0) is not yet / no more supported by
> >  Mandrake
> > Linux Official Updates.
> >  Do you want to try another mirror?
> 
> try to launche rpmdrake from console and look at the potential
> urpmi or curl/wget error message on the console, please.
> 

This is after I deleted "update-source" via SSM, then did some updates via
MU...  I have no idea why it should have gone back to complaining about
8.2; but here's the output...

# rpmdrake &
[2] 19356
# unable to take medium "Updates for Mandrake Linux 8.2 (ftp1u)" into
account as no list file [/var/lib/urpmi/list.Updates for Mandrake Linux
8.2 (ftp1u)] exists
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD
1 (x86) (cdrom1).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.Installation CD
2 (x86) (cdrom2).cz]
examining synthesis file [/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.International CD
(x86) (cdrom3).cz]
examining synthesis file
[/var/lib/urpmi/synthesis.hdlist.update_source.cz]




[Cooker] Type in german drakx

2002-11-13 Thread Marco Rothley
Hello!

When I install cooker there is written "Haben Sie noch etwas Gerduld" when it 
is installing the packages. The word Gerduld is wrong. It has to be "Geduld".

Is this list the right place for this or is there an extra list for 
translation issues?

Marco.




[Cooker] kde 3.1 rc3 - ksmserver does not restart kwin on the second desktop - showstopper ?

2002-11-13 Thread Pascal Cavy
I waited the rc3 to post this bug, still present in rc3.

I have a Maxtrox G550 - so 2 heads with 2 physical screens
I run on latest cooker.
XFree86 is NOT in xinerama mode
I use service dm with kdm as desktopmanager.

The problem: kwin does not start on one head (no window decoration, 
control...) I have to start a second kwin on the second display to be able to 
work.

Here are the steps to reproduce the problem

1. create a fresh unix user (to get rid of kde config migration problems)
2. start service dm
3. at the kdm screen login into kde on the fresh user
4. start one konsole per desktop
AT FIRST START KWIN is started OK on both desktops
5. logout of kde requesting to change to another user
6. redo step 3
   KWIN is now not started on one of the 2 Desktops...
 
here is my .ksmserverrc after the problem:

either the session are not properly saved for both screens concerning kwin or 
kwin should manage both screens ... i don't know.


-- 
Pascal
Mayyy thhee souuurcee beee with yaaa, Geeekk !


[$Version]
update_info=ksmserver.upd:kde3

[General]
screenCount=2

[Session: saved at previous logout]
clientId1=11d4d0110e0001037210802022400
clientId2=11d4d0110e0001037210810022411
clientId3=11d4d0110e0001037210826022412
clientId4=11d4d0110e0001037210836022413
count=4
discardCommand1=rm,/home/pascal2/.kde/share/config/session/kwin_11d4d0110e0001037210802022400_1037210926_529830
discardCommand2=
discardCommand3=rm,/home/pascal2/.kde/share/config/session/konsole_11d4d0110e0001037210826022412_1037210926_483181
discardCommand4=rm,/home/pascal2/.kde/share/config/session/konsole_11d4d0110e0001037210836022413_1037210926_483599
program1=kwin
program2=kalarmd
program3=konsole
program4=konsole
restartCommand1=kwin,-session,11d4d0110e0001037210802022400_1037210926_529830,-display,:0.1
restartCommand2=kalarmd,-session,11d4d0110e0001037210810022411_1037210926_482700,-display,:0
restartCommand3=konsole,-session,11d4d0110e0001037210826022412_1037210926_483181,-display,:0.1
restartCommand4=konsole,-session,11d4d0110e0001037210836022413_1037210926_483599,-display,:0.0
restartStyleHint1=0
restartStyleHint2=0
restartStyleHint3=0
restartStyleHint4=0
userId1=pascal2
userId2=pascal2
userId3=pascal2
userId4=pascal2



Re: [Cooker] Obtained Star Office from Mandrake, whear is the advertized Word Perfect filter?

2002-11-13 Thread Brent Hasty
On Tuesday 12 November 2002 08:28 am, SI Reasoning wrote:
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>
> On Tuesday 12 November 2002 10:16 am, scott chevalley wrote:
> > Philip Webb wrote:
> > >02 Brent Hasty wrote:
> > >>The office network I manage has several useres who were word perfect
> > >> users, and have a large resource of *.wpd documents.  We researched
> > >> into staroffice and what we found is that it advertised being able to
> > >> import *.wpd files, ecclent.  We then placed our order for mdk 9 for
> > >> upgrade purposes and because it had star office bundled with it.
> > >>Well I got the staroffice rpms installed and tried opening a
> > >> wordperfect document, well nothing :-(
> > >>I then checked the documentation, and tried a custom install for the
> > >> purpose of selecting the filters I wanted installed.  Unfortunately it
> > >> seems the advertised *.wpd filter was not included.
> > >
> > >just a workaround: can't you copy .wpd -> .doc -> .sxw ?
> >
> > just a thought... current version of Abiword read .wpd files.  I'm not
> > sure how good it does, but it does support it.  perhaps, at the very
> > least, open them in Abiword and save them out at RTF to open in star
> > office... just a thought...
I will agree hear, they are whining bad enough at having to learn a new word 
prosessor with more features than thier wp8 annyway.  waaa the icons have 
different colors I am lost...
I have obtained libwpd and am working on compiling it on my system and 
integrating it into OO, I will probably also give abiword a try to see jsut 
how well it does.  We are trying to standardize our office suite on OO or SO, 
due to thier being avaliable for a wider variety of operating systems, and 
the free avaliability of OO means our documents are portable to customers 
outside of our office without requiring them to go out and pirate or purchase 
a $400 office suite, like MS or Corel, rather they can simply download OO.  
We have a minidisk buisness card, and on it we include OO for our customers 
convienience.

Thanks for the advice all, I lookforward to in time the improvement of 
Mandrake, and associated apps and thier ability to import and convert WP 
documents into a more open and standard format.
>
> The greater question is did StarOffice come with the .wpd filters and
> if not how does one get them? It is challenging in an office situation to
> have to bounce between software designed to do the same thing. The
> resistance and whining factors increase exponentially
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Re: [Cooker] bad packages

2002-11-13 Thread Vox

This time [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) 
becomes daring and writes:

> Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>> > [root@isis rpms]# rpm -Uvh gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
>> > Preparing...### [100%]
>> > package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
>> > [root@isis rpms]# 
>> >
>> >   I'm starting to think it's the mirroring...been having some trouble
>> >   with my link lately, and maybe the rsync got
>> >   interrupted...uhm...worth investingating...I'll get back to you
>> >   'morrow after getting some sleep :)
>> 
>> Ok, the problem was corrupted mirror on my part  Sorry for
>> the false alarm...I'll check that next time before I complain
>> about a problem.
>
> So the package was renamed as 0.21.0 but it still was a 0.18.0 ? I don't see any
> other solution of why the package was still good.

  Seems like the script (troels) was interrupted between the renameing
  of the package and dlding the new one. So...I'm about to kill my
  ISP :)  At least I now know what's causing this (this was the second
  time I saw something like this happening).

  Vox

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Re: [Cooker] drakconf-themes missing file, and some suggestion for rpmdrake

2002-11-13 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 19:36:01 +0200
Buchan Milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I use drakconf-themes-9.0-6.2mdkplf
> Release number is wrong   
 ^^

I had reported that earlier.
The Only drakconf-themes available on Any Mandrake mirror is
9.0-6.2mdkplf
   ^^

Charles

 
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Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Made Easy: a modest suggestion for Windowsusers

2002-11-13 Thread Warly
Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> We have most of the technology, we can do it...
>
> http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/11/04/135233

We had once the transfugdrake project, aimed at transfering any
windows configurations and documents to the linux system, but lack
of ressources made it stalled.

-- 
Warly




Re: [Cooker] [Contrib-RPMS] quakeforge, svgalib, xlogmaster

2002-11-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 16:55, Maxim Heijndijk wrote:

> Name: xlogmaster   Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 1.6.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 7mdk  Build Date: zo 27 okt 2002 10:55:48 CET
> Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
> Group   : MonitoringSource RPM: (none)
> Size: 325385   License: GPL
> Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://www.gnu.org/software/xlogmaster/
> Summary : Quick & easy monitoring of logfiles and devices.
> Description :
> The Xlogmaster is a program that allows easy and flexible monitoring of
> all logfiles and devices that allow being read via cat (like the /proc
> devices). It allows you to set a lot of events based on certain activities
> in the monitored logfiles/devices and should prove very helpful for almost
> anyone.
> 
> * do okt 24 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.6.0-7mdk
> 
> - Rebuilt for Mandrake 9.0 / MandrakeClub.
> - Added BuildRequires for gcc 2.96.
> - Fixed bindir.
> - Fixed datbase dir.
> - Fixed manfile permissions.
> - Removed gtkrc files.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought nothing was to be built with GCC
2.96 any more but Mozilla (and Galeon etc), which need it for plugin
compatibility.
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Re: [Cooker] drakconf-themes missing file, and some suggestion forrpmdrake

2002-11-13 Thread Buchan Milne
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Michael Scherer wrote:
> I use drakconf-themes-9.0-6.2mdkplf
Release number is wrong^^

So it is actally a PLF RPM, not really maintained, contact the
maintainer and author, http://damz.net (IIRC).

>
> drakconf-themes install 2 theme, but kde theme nor gnome theme works.
> And crash mcc
>
> It seem that at least one file is missing :
> resolution-mdk.png
>
> In fact, all these file are missing
>
> ./resolution-mdk.png
> ./tv-mdk.png
> ./webdav-mdk.png
> ./drakperm-mdk.png
> ./backup-mdk.png
> ./web-mdk.png
> ./postfix-mdk.png
> ./ftp-mdk.png
> ./news-mdk.png
>
> I think that mcc should use the default icon if it can't found it in the
> themes directory.
>
>
> Btw, another problem is I can't see from where urpmi is downloading file.
> I didn't found the option to show the media used for urpmi and co.
> I know that I can force to use some media, but when i search, let's
say gimp,
> I don't know if it come from cooker, or from a mirror, or from a CD.

# urpmq --sources gimp
(only works as root for some reason).

> On mdk8.2, rpmdrake showed the sources, but, it does no more.
>
> I think that rpmdrake should have two modes :
> a simple, the same as now in mdk9, and a experienced one, with
information
> such as files in the packages, dependencies, changelog and so on.

It does. Right-click->Maximum information.

>
> A simple menu option to switch should be enough.

Context menu good enough?

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[Cooker] [Contrib-RPMS] quakeforge, svgalib, xlogmaster

2002-11-13 Thread Maxim Heijndijk
Uploaded to incoming and club:

Name: quakeforge   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 0.5.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: vr 25 okt 2002 13:38:59 CEST
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Games/Arcade  Source RPM: (none)
Size: 1680071  License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.quakeforge.net/
Summary : QuakeForge 3D game engine
Description :

* za okt 19 2002 Max Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.5.2-1mdk

- 0.5.2.
- Fixed License.
- Removed Packager.
- Sound segfault patch.
- Merged with new spec from www.quakeforge.net.
- Built for Mandrake 9.0 / MandrakeClub.

* ma aug 27 2001 Max Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.30-4

- Fixed %post to return zero exit status

* do aug 09 2001 Max Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.30-3

- Fixed %post

* vr jun 29 2001 Max Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.30-2

- Added links in /usr/games
- Fixed menu entries
- Added icons
- Patches from Conectiva Linux SRPM.
- Added subpackages common-files, x11, svga.
* do mei 03 2001 Max Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.30-1

- Used spec from sourceforge.
- Added changelog.
- Initial build.


Name: svgalib  Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1.4.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 3mdk  Build Date: za 19 okt 2002 13:38:04 CEST
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : System/Libraries  Source RPM: (none)
Size: 704465   License: GPL style
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.svgalib.org/
Summary : A low-level fullscreen SVGA graphics library
Description :
The svgalib package provides the SVGAlib low-level graphics library for
Linux. SVGAlib is a library which allows applications to use full screen
graphics on a variety of hardware platforms. Many games and utilities use
SVGAlib for their graphics.

You'll need to have the svgalib package installed if you use any of the
programs which rely on SVGAlib for their graphics support.

* za okt 19 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.4.3-3mdk

- Rebuilt for Mandrake 9.0 / MandrakeClub

* wo okt 17 2001 Daouda LO <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.4.3-2mdk

- better libification
- cleanups


Name: xlogmaster   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1.6.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 7mdk  Build Date: zo 27 okt 2002 10:55:48 CET
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : MonitoringSource RPM: (none)
Size: 325385   License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.gnu.org/software/xlogmaster/
Summary : Quick & easy monitoring of logfiles and devices.
Description :
The Xlogmaster is a program that allows easy and flexible monitoring of
all logfiles and devices that allow being read via cat (like the /proc
devices). It allows you to set a lot of events based on certain activities
in the monitored logfiles/devices and should prove very helpful for almost
anyone.

* do okt 24 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.6.0-7mdk

- Rebuilt for Mandrake 9.0 / MandrakeClub.
- Added BuildRequires for gcc 2.96.
- Fixed bindir.
- Fixed datbase dir.
- Fixed manfile permissions.
- Removed gtkrc files.

* za okt 12 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.6.0-6

- Fixed Group.

* ma okt 07 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.6.0-5

- Rebuilt for MandrakeClub.

* ma mei 07 2001 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.6.0-4

- Rebuild with glibc-2.2.2.

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System is up  7:51




[Cooker] drakconf-themes missing file, and some suggestion for rpmdrake

2002-11-13 Thread Michael Scherer
I use drakconf-themes-9.0-6.2mdkplf

drakconf-themes install 2 theme, but kde theme nor gnome theme works.
And crash mcc

It seem that at least one file is missing : 
resolution-mdk.png

In fact, all these file are missing

./resolution-mdk.png
./tv-mdk.png
./webdav-mdk.png
./drakperm-mdk.png
./backup-mdk.png
./web-mdk.png
./postfix-mdk.png
./ftp-mdk.png
./news-mdk.png

I think that mcc should use the default icon if it can't found it in the 
themes directory.


Btw, another problem is I can't see from where urpmi is downloading file.
I didn't found the option to show the media used for urpmi and co.
I know that I can force to use some media, but when i search, let's say gimp, 
I don't know if it come from cooker, or from a mirror, or from a CD.
On mdk8.2, rpmdrake showed the sources, but, it does no more.

I think that rpmdrake should have two modes :
a simple, the same as now in mdk9, and a experienced one, with information 
such as files in the packages, dependencies, changelog and so on.

A simple menu option to switch should be enough.


misc




[Cooker] [Contrib-RPM] PrBooM 2.2.3

2002-11-13 Thread Maxim Heijndijk
Uploaded to incoming:

Name: prboom   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:23:41 CET
Install date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:29:14 CET  Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Games/Arcade  Source RPM: prboom-2.2.3-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 843840   License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://prboom.sourceforge.net/
Summary : An enhanced version of DooM - classic 3D shoot-em-up game.
Description :
Doom is the classic 3D shoot-em-up game. It must have been one of the best
selling games ever; it totally outclassed any 3D world games that preceded
it, with amazing speed, flexibility, and outstanding gameplay. The specs
to the game were released, and thousands of extra levels were written by
fans of the game; even today new levels are written for Doom faster then
any one person could play them.

-- NOTE : YOU NEED TO DOWNLOAD WAD FILES --
http://www.idsoftware.com/

Name: prboom-glRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:23:41 CET
Install date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:29:20 CET  Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Games/Arcade  Source RPM: prboom-2.2.3-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 469305   License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://prboom.sourceforge.net/
Summary : OpenGL version
Description :
This package contains the PrBooM binary that runs accelerated through
OpenGL.

Name: prboom-serverRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:23:41 CET
Install date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:29:25 CET  Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Games/Arcade  Source RPM: prboom-2.2.3-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 16769License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://prboom.sourceforge.net/
Summary : PrBooM game server
Description :
This package contains the PrBooM server binary, that is the program
that passes data between the different players in the game.

* di nov 12 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.2.3-1mdk

- 2.2.3.
- Menus.
- Fixed docs.
- Server subpackage.
- Server initscript.

* do okt 25 2001 Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.2.2-1mdk

- 2.2.2


Why was this removed from contribs ?

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System is up  7:33




Re: [Cooker] MU (9.0)

2002-11-13 Thread Stéphane Teletchéa
Le Mercredi 13 Novembre 2002 17:30, vous avez écrit :
> Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > I found this after searching 30 minutes on the web :
> > >
> > > urpmi.update -a
> > > urpmi --auto-select
> > >
> > > If this work flawlessly, why is it not advertised more ?
> > >
> > > I didn't found any mention of this on Mandrake web site, and I think
> > > this is worth a first page...
> >
> > You're preaching to the choir.  I've always been mystified that Mandrake
> > doesn't tout urpmi more than it does.  It's amazing how many Debian
> > users I've encountered who think that Debian is the only distro with
> > that functionality.  *I* didn't even find out about it until I mentioned
> > that the only thing urpmi couldn't do was do a distribution upgrade on
> > Slashdot and one of the Mandrake developers corrected me (I think it was
> > Chmouel...).
>
> Actually, I think a whole dist upgrade was not so much "working"
> before the 9.0 version of urpmi, or at least partially broken,
> that's why.

But now, it is fairly robust : in the betas processes, as my hardware wasn't 
well recognized, i did a minimal install (65Mo), and i could get up to the 
graphical boot after some urpmi (like urpmi gnome, urpmi X, and things like 
this.) like if i had done a normal install.

Stef




[Cooker] [Contrib RPM]

2002-11-13 Thread Maxim Heijndijk
Uploaded to incoming:

Name: prboom   Relocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:23:41 CET
Install date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:29:14 CET  Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Games/Arcade  Source RPM: prboom-2.2.3-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 843840   License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://prboom.sourceforge.net/
Summary : An enhanced version of DooM - classic 3D shoot-em-up game.
Description :
Doom is the classic 3D shoot-em-up game. It must have been one of the best
selling games ever; it totally outclassed any 3D world games that preceded
it, with amazing speed, flexibility, and outstanding gameplay. The specs
to the game were released, and thousands of extra levels were written by
fans of the game; even today new levels are written for Doom faster then
any one person could play them.

-- NOTE : YOU NEED TO DOWNLOAD WAD FILES --
http://www.idsoftware.com/

Name: prboom-glRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:23:41 CET
Install date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:29:20 CET  Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Games/Arcade  Source RPM: prboom-2.2.3-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 469305   License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://prboom.sourceforge.net/
Summary : OpenGL version
Description :
This package contains the PrBooM binary that runs accelerated through
OpenGL.

Name: prboom-serverRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 2.2.3 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 1mdk  Build Date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:23:41 CET
Install date: wo 13 nov 2002 17:29:25 CET  Build Host: warpcore.positronic.net
Group   : Games/Arcade  Source RPM: prboom-2.2.3-1mdk.src.rpm
Size: 16769License: GPL
Packager: Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://prboom.sourceforge.net/
Summary : PrBooM game server
Description :
This package contains the PrBooM server binary, that is the program
that passes data between the different players in the game.

* di nov 12 2002 Maxim Heijndijk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.2.3-1mdk

- 2.2.3.
- Menus.
- Fixed docs.
- Server subpackage.
- Server initscript.

* do okt 25 2001 Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.2.2-1mdk

- 2.2.2


Why was this removed from contribs ?

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* Linux Shell Scripts & RPM Software Packages - http://go.to/conmen/
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System is up  7:33




Re: [Cooker] MU (9.0)

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > I found this after searching 30 minutes on the web :
> > 
> > urpmi.update -a
> > urpmi --auto-select
> > 
> > If this work flawlessly, why is it not advertised more ?
> > 
> > I didn't found any mention of this on Mandrake web site, and I think this is 
> > worth a first page...
> 
> You're preaching to the choir.  I've always been mystified that Mandrake
> doesn't tout urpmi more than it does.  It's amazing how many Debian
> users I've encountered who think that Debian is the only distro with
> that functionality.  *I* didn't even find out about it until I mentioned
> that the only thing urpmi couldn't do was do a distribution upgrade on
> Slashdot and one of the Mandrake developers corrected me (I think it was
> Chmouel...).

Actually, I think a whole dist upgrade was not so much "working"
before the 9.0 version of urpmi, or at least partially broken,
that's why.

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] MU (9.0)

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 12 Nov 2002 19:18:14 +0100 Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> > Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > MandrakeUpdate simply does not work for me on 9.0; this is on a new,
> > > freshly installed ThinkPad -- installed 8.2 and used new 9.0 upgrade
> > > procedure.  Using ethereal, I can see MU grab the list of mirrors;
> > > then it reports a failure, yet it does not even send a single packet
> > > on the network...
> > 
> > What's the error msg?
> >  
> > 
> [Error adding update medium]
>There was an error while adding the update medium via urpmi.
>   This may be due to a broken or temporary unavailable mirror, or when
> your
>  Mandrake Linux version (9.0) is not yet / no more supported by Mandrake
> Linux Official Updates.
>  Do you want to try another mirror?

try to launche rpmdrake from console and look at the potential
urpmi or curl/wget error message on the console, please.


-- 
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Re: [Cooker] rpmdrake won't work on exported X display's

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau
Per Øyvind Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> [hawkeye@mainframe hawkeye]$ sudo rpmdrake
> This program cannot be run in console mode.

the problem is with environment variables transmitted or not by
the sudo program. in particular, a graphical program needs
DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY.

i've fixed console-helper because it didn't preserve those
variables right, but i haven't looked at sudo (which i don't use
personnally).
 
> or when just launching 'rpmdrake' the gtk dialog which asks for
> root password shows up, then it'll bitch again when typed the
> password...

hum, strange, works for me... other graphical console-helper
tools do work right? (mcc, userdrake)

> it worked just fine moments ago with the old 8.2 rpmdrake


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[Cooker] latext xpdf segfault for undefined colors

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
[guillaume@silbermann OIBC2002]$  xpdf presentation.pdf
Warning: Color name "#eae9e8 
" is not defined
Segmentation fault

[guillaume@silbermann OIBC2002]$ rpm -q xpdf
xpdf-2.00-1mdk
-- 
Disks are always full. It is futile to try to get more disk space. Data 
expands to fill any void. 
-- Murphy's Computer Laws n°4





Re: [Cooker] Packages in main requiring packages in contribs

2002-11-13 Thread Daouda LO
Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Due to insufficient drive space to mirror contribs, I only locally
> mirror cooker main and use a remote mirror for contribs.  Running
> gendistrib to update the hdlists and base files, I've found a few
> packages in main that have requires on packages in contribs, emitting
> warnings from gendistrib.  Isn't Mandrake policy that packages in main
> should not depend on contribs?
> 
> These packages depend on libmpeg2.so.0, which is provided by
> libmpeg2dec0-0.2.1-1mdk (in contribs):
> ImageMagick-5.5.1.5-3mdk
> a2ps-4.13-14mdk
> enlightenment-0.16.5-12mdk
> enlightenment-conf-0.15-20mdk
> a2ps-devel-4.13-14mdk
> a2ps-static-devel-4.13-14mdk
> ethemes-1.1-10mdk
> gphoto-0.4.3-15mdk
> gpr-0.9-2mdk
> perl-Magick-5.5.1.5-3mdk
> plugger-4.0-7mdk

Recompiling ImageMagick (4mdk) without libmpeg2dec0 does the trick. 

thanx.




Re: [Cooker] KDE 3.1 RC3 - "Info Center" menu item

2002-11-13 Thread Laurent Montel
Le Wednesday 13 November 2002 16:13, Pierrot Rey a écrit :
> Le mer 13/11/2002 à 16:08, Robert Fox a écrit :
> > I reported this in RC1 - I'm not sure this is a Mandrake specific
> > problem or a KDE problem.
> >
> > Since I started using 3.1 (betas and RCs) I have a menu item which says
> > "Info Center" on the KDE menu.  When I click on it - nothing happens.
> >
> > It appears to be trying to find an app called "kinfocenter" which
> > doesn't appear to be on the system or in the RPMS.

I know, I will look at it this week.

Regards.

> >
> > Any feedback would be appreciated.
> >
> > Thx,
> > R.Fox
>
> I have the same problem





Re: [Cooker] KDE 3.1 RC3 - "Info Center" menu item

2002-11-13 Thread Pierrot Rey
Le mer 13/11/2002 à 16:08, Robert Fox a écrit :
> I reported this in RC1 - I'm not sure this is a Mandrake specific
> problem or a KDE problem.
> 
> Since I started using 3.1 (betas and RCs) I have a menu item which says
> "Info Center" on the KDE menu.  When I click on it - nothing happens.
> 
> It appears to be trying to find an app called "kinfocenter" which
> doesn't appear to be on the system or in the RPMS.
> 
> Any feedback would be appreciated.
> 
> Thx,
> R.Fox

I have the same problem
-- 
Pierrot Rey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>





[Cooker] KDE 3.1 RC3 - "Info Center" menu item

2002-11-13 Thread Robert Fox
I reported this in RC1 - I'm not sure this is a Mandrake specific
problem or a KDE problem.

Since I started using 3.1 (betas and RCs) I have a menu item which says
"Info Center" on the KDE menu.  When I click on it - nothing happens.

It appears to be trying to find an app called "kinfocenter" which
doesn't appear to be on the system or in the RPMS.

Any feedback would be appreciated.

Thx,
R.Fox
-- 
Robert Fox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Fox Consulting Services





[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] balsa-1.2.4-4mdk

2002-11-13 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 14:34, Frederic Crozat wrote:
> --=-=-=
> Name: balsaRelocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 1.2.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 4mdk  Build Date: Wed Nov 13 14:39:43 2002
> Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: hp6.mandrakesoft.com
> Group   : Networking/Mail   Source RPM: (none)
> Size: 1985558  License: GPL
> Packager: Mandrake Linux Team 
> URL : http://www.balsa.net/
> Summary : Balsa Mail Client
> Description :
> Balsa is an e-mail reader.
> 
> This client is part of the GNOME desktop environment. It supports local
> mailboxes, POP3 and IMAP.
> 
> --=-=-=
> 
> * Tue Nov 12 2002 Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.2.4-4mdk
> 
> - Recompiled against latest gal/gtkhtml/aspell
> - Fix BuildRequires
> - Patch0: fix compilation with aspell >= 0.50.2

This is another outdated one...for whoever maintains it, 1.4.1 (for
GNOME 1) and 2.0.3 (for GNOME 2) are current versions.

(before someone jumps in with smart comments, I don't have time or
interest to maintain MDK packages, and I don't even use this program.
Just pointing it out.)
-- 
adamw





Re: [Cooker] 76 modules

2002-11-13 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 13 november 2002 16.53 skrev Jean-Michel Dault:
> > > Of course, we can choose what we want to support. We could decide to
> > > support only Apache 2.0 and mod_jk2. But then, I would get hundreds of
> > > complaints from people running Apache 1.3 with mod_frontpage or
> > > mod_auth_external, who have not been ported to 2.0 yet, and are in use
> > > by several big ISPs.
> >
> > apache2-mod_auth_external-2.0.43_2.2.1-*mdk is in contribs.
>
> True, I had completely forgotten about it =)
>
> So there's only mod_frontpage to port. I have gotten to the point where
> it actually compiles and installs, but there are tons of missing
> symbols. I'm backporting some functions from the 1.3 code, a bit messy,
> but the important thing is that it *works*.

Very nice! I didn't know that you knew c. Cool.

> My goal is to use Apache 2.0 for the main and move 1.3 to the Contribs
> for 9.1.

Ahh..., that would be so nice.

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks

Check the "Modules For Apache2" status page at: 
http://www.deserve-it.com/modules_for_apache2.html





Re: [Cooker] 76 modules

2002-11-13 Thread Oden Eriksson
onsdagen den 13 november 2002 16.39 skrev Jean-Michel Dault:
> > > Axkit is pretty cool, but it's really a PITA to make it work:
> >
> > I think I'll have to leave this up to you to decide becasue I'm afraid
> > this is just too complicated for me... But if there's a huge demand for
> > it I guess I could give it a try.
>
> The problem is that even the author himself basically doesn't know how
> he will make it work with Apache 2.0 ;-)

Ha ha ha !!! Funny!

Well..., that's it, then I won't even touch it for now.

-- 
Regards // Oden Eriksson, Deserve-IT Networks

Check the "Modules For Apache2" status page at: 
http://www.deserve-it.com/modules_for_apache2.html





[Cooker] stops at boot

2002-11-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
I just updated a machine at work against cooker today and ran into a 
problem when I rebooted, it stopped when it came to 'init', don't know 
what happened,
the machine responded to sysrq and it was able to read from the disk 
etc. so I suspect there must've been something else than hardware troubles.
I tried to booting with init=/bin/sh and it seemed to work fine and then 
I continued with /etc/rc.sysinit and no problems there either,
but it could'nt open /dev/initctl, don't know if it's related though, 
but I had to start every service manually etc.

This might also just be this stupid compaq presario 5676(I _TRULY_ hate 
it), as it had other weird problems before, but then it has usually just 
totally freezed.

--
Mvh Per Øyvind Karlsen
Delonic Technology Group AS
Sysadmin, developer, greasemonkey
www.delonic.no - +47 41681061





Re: [Cooker] ImageMagick deps on libmpeg2dec0

2002-11-13 Thread Stefan van der Eijk
>> >libmpeg2.so.0 is needed by ImageMagick but the rpm containing it
>> (libmpeg2dec0) is not in Cooker.
>> >If it is in contrib and necessary, it should be brought in.
>> >=-=
>> >kk1
>> >
>> You're right, I'm guilty (I uploaded the package yesterday).
>>
>> We've seen this B4 with xawtv and libdv2. Can the contrib packages
>> PLEASE be deinstalled from the build cluster?
>
> fixed. Nex ImageMagick uploaded.
Good!

On the other hand, has my other suggestion been taken into consideration?

regards,

Stefan van der Eijk






[Cooker] stat problem on xfs partition

2002-11-13 Thread Götz Waschk
Hi,

recently I get more and more problems with my /home xfs partition. du
gives me wrong values for some files. This isn't a problem most of the
time, but building rpm packages often fails. Here's an example:

[root@abgrund i686]# cd /home/goetz/tmp/gst-editor-0.2.0-root/usr/lib
[root@abgrund lib]# ls -l libgsteditor.a
-rw-r--r--1 goetzgoetz 4021912 Nov 12 21:10 libgsteditor.a
[root@abgrund lib]# stat libgsteditor.a
  File: »libgsteditor.a«
  Size: 4021912 Blocks: 4294965512 IO Block: 4096   Regular File
Device: 307h/775d   Inode: 20976440Links: 1
Access: (0644/-rw-r--r--)  Uid: (  501/   goetz)   Gid: (  501/   goetz)
Access: 2002-11-12 21:13:18.0 +0100
Modify: 2002-11-12 21:10:09.0 +0100
Change: 2002-11-12 21:10:09.0 +0100

[root@abgrund lib]# du libgsteditor.a
2147482756  libgsteditor.a


If I umount /home and mount it again, the file is OK. xfs_check
doesn't give me errors. I'm not sure, but I guess this started with
kernel-2.4.19-19mdk. 

CU
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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] abiword-1.0.2-2mdk

2002-11-13 Thread Frederic Crozat
On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 13:35:41 +, Adam Williamson wrote:

> On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 13:31, Frederic Crozat wrote:
>> [Contrib-RPM]
>> 
>> --=-=-=
>> Name: abiword  Relocations: (not relocateable)
>> Version : 1.0.2 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
>> Release : 2mdk  Build Date: Wed Nov 13 14:06:22 2002
>> Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: hp6.mandrakesoft.com
>> Group   : OfficeSource RPM: (none)
>> Size: 15965421 License: GPL
>> Packager: Mandrake Linux Team 
>> URL : http://www.abisource.com/
>> Summary : Lean and fast full-featured word processor
>> Description :
>> AbiWord is a cross-platform, Open Source Word Processor developed
>> by the people at AbiSource, Inc. and by developers from around the world.
>> 
>> It is a lean and fast full-featured word processor. It works on Microsoft
>> Windows and most Unix Systems. Features include:
>> 
>>* Basic character formatting (bold, underline, italics, etc.)
>>* Paragraph alignment
>>* Spell-check
>>* Import of Word97 and RTF documents
>>* Export to RTF, Text, HTML, and LaTeX formats
>>* Interactive rulers and tabs
>>* Styles
>>* Unlimited undo/redo
>>* Multiple column control
>>* Widow/orphan control
>>* Find/Replace
>>* Images
>> 
>> Abiword with the GNOME front-end is part of the GNOME Office Suite.
>> 
>> --=-=-=
>> 
>> * Wed Nov 13 2002 Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0.2-2mdk
>> 
>> - Recompiled against latest gal/aspell
>> - Patch
> 
> Um, Abiword 1.0.3 has been out for a while now, Fred.

I don't maintain abiword.. I'm only fixing the gal/gtkhtml dependencies
problems..

-- 
Frederic Crozat
MandrakeSoft





Re: [Cooker] 76 modules

2002-11-13 Thread Jean-Michel Dault

> > Axkit is pretty cool, but it's really a PITA to make it work:
> I think I'll have to leave this up to you to decide becasue I'm afraid this is 
> just too complicated for me... But if there's a huge demand for it I guess I 
> could give it a try.

The problem is that even the author himself basically doesn't know how
he will make it work with Apache 2.0 ;-)

Jean-Michel




Re: [Cooker] gvim broken

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Mercredi 13 Novembre 2002 14:13, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > > gvim doesn't start anymore. Here is strace output:
> > >
> > > already fixed in 29mdk ...
> >
> > Titi, i love you.
>
> "ca va pas etre possible" :-)
Especially if you don't upload the corrected version quickly...
-- 
Disks are always full. It is futile to try to get more disk space. Data 
expands to fill any void. 
-- Murphy's Computer Laws n°4





Re: [Cooker] gvim broken

2002-11-13 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > gvim doesn't start anymore. Here is strace output:
> >
> > already fixed in 29mdk ...
>
> Titi, i love you.

"ca va pas etre possible" :-)





Re: [Cooker] perl dependencies

2002-11-13 Thread Pixel
"Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> There was some change in packaging perl
> (I think the -4mdk was before change, I have -14mdk, no logs as
> urpmi was broken by the change), and this is not recorded in
> dependencies of packages that use libperl or perl modules (perl-URPM, 
> httpd-perl, vim, etc). The change is incompatible in both ways.
> 
> Upgrading httpd-perl and urpmi made them unusable, after perl upgrade
> vim was unusable. Upgrading everything at once should be fine.

i changed in cooker from 5.8 no thread to 5.8 multi-thread without
adding all the needed dependencies. upgrading from 8.2 to 9.0 or to
cooker should be no pb.




Re: [Cooker] gvim broken

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
Le Mercredi 13 Novembre 2002 11:53, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
> Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > gvim doesn't start anymore. Here is strace output:
>
> already fixed in 29mdk ...
Titi, i love you.
-- 
No matter how good of a deal you get on computer components, the price will 
always drop immediately after the purchase. 
-- Murphy's Computer Laws n°7





Re: [Cooker] Re: urpmi and df

2002-11-13 Thread François Pons
Marcel Pol <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Coda 266 4294920880   1% /coda
> 
> Coda is a distributed filesystem. I'm rather new with coda, but afaik it uses
> 2 kbytes to store metadata of the actual files. Depending on the filesizes
> it can store more or less data. I'm copying rather large files to it now, so I
> assume it calculates that there can be lots of bytes on the filesystem then.
> So the hard limit is only on the metadata.

It could be a problem of Tb (depending on how rpm handle this, but this is
surely fixed now). But it is not appreciable total size being much more less
than available size :-)

François.




Re: [Cooker] urpmi, can't remove media

2002-11-13 Thread François Pons
Per Øyvind Karlsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> yupp, I figured it out, but it should maybe remove the file even if there is no
> list, or at least give some hint about what to do about it?

Yes, but it is a warning message and do nothing with it, because urpmi is able
(for backward compability) to handle medium not described in urpmi.cfg file.

François.




Re: [Cooker] bad packages

2002-11-13 Thread François Pons
Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > [root@isis rpms]# rpm -Uvh gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> > Preparing...### [100%]
> > package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
> > [root@isis rpms]# 
> >
> >   I'm starting to think it's the mirroring...been having some trouble
> >   with my link lately, and maybe the rsync got
> >   interrupted...uhm...worth investingating...I'll get back to you
> >   'morrow after getting some sleep :)
> 
> Ok, the problem was corrupted mirror on my part  Sorry for
> the false alarm...I'll check that next time before I complain
> about a problem.

So the package was renamed as 0.21.0 but it still was a 0.18.0 ? I don't see any
other solution of why the package was still good.

François.




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-4.0.4-20mdk

2002-11-13 Thread Gwenole Beauchesne
Hi,


Great, but it seems rpm doesn't find dependencies anymore. Here is an
rpm which I built on cooker ...


Dependencies are not changed. So they work as before. Look at XFree86 
package built with new rpm, dependencies are all there.

Only find-provides was fixed to not get rid of some files. ;-)

Bye,
Gwenole.




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] rpm-4.0.4-20mdk

2002-11-13 Thread Buchan Milne
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Hash: SHA1

Gwenole Beauchesne wrote:
> --=-=-=
> Name: rpm  Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 4.0.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 20mdk Build Date: Mon Nov 11
18:18:15 2002
[...]
> * Mon Nov 11 2002 Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
4.0.4-20mdk
>
> - Patch49: Add %_unpackaged_files_terminate_build from rpm-4.1 which
>   is now set by default. Aka rpm build will now fail if files are
>   found in $RPM_BUILD_ROOT and not referenced in %files section.
> - Update Patch39 (x86_64) to really leave config files in /usr/lib/rpm
> - Update Patch5 (autoreq): Fix filelist filtering in find-provides
>

Great, but it seems rpm doesn't find dependencies anymore. Here is an
rpm which I built on cooker ...

[bgmilne@bgmilne rpm]$ rpm -qRp
mdk/RPMS.mdk9.1/i586/mysqlcc-0.8.6a-1mdk.i586.rpm
/bin/sh
/bin/sh
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
[bgmilne@bgmilne rpm]$

... from the same SRPM I used to build on 9.0 last night:

[bgmilne@bgmilne rpm]$ rpm -qRp
/mnt/buchanhome/bgmilne/rpm/mdk/RPMS.mdk9.0/i586/mysqlcc-0.8.6a-1mdk.i586.rpm
/bin/sh
/bin/sh
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1
ld-linux.so.2
libc.so.6
libdl.so.2
libfreetype.so.6
libgcc_s.so.1
libGL.so.1
libICE.so.6
libjpeg.so.62
liblcms.so.1
libmng.so.1
libm.so.6
libpng12.so.0
libpthread.so.0
libqt-mt.so.3
libSM.so.6
libstdc++.so.5
libX11.so.6
libXext.so.6
libXft.so.1
libXmu.so.6
libXrender.so.1
libXt.so.6
libz.so.1
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.0)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.2)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.1.3)
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2)
libgcc_s.so.1(GCC_3.0)
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.0)
libpthread.so.0(GLIBC_2.2)
libstdc++.so.5(GLIBCPP_3.2)
[bgmilne@bgmilne rpm]$


[bgmilne@bgmilne rpm]$ rpm -qa 'rpm*'
rpmtools-4.5-3mdk
rpmlint-0.47-1mdk
rpm-build-4.0.4-20mdk
rpm-4.0.4-20mdk
rpm-python-4.0.4-20mdk
rpmdrake-2.0-27mdk
rpm-devel-4.0.4-20mdk
rpm-helper-0.7.1-1mdk
[bgmilne@bgmilne rpm]$

Or is there something new we must do to convince rpm to check deps? I
hope there aren't about 100 packages since rpm that now don't have deps.

I first noticed this yesterday, but I hadn't built rpms on cooker in
about a week (was away for a few days).

Buchan

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[Cooker] perl dependencies

2002-11-13 Thread Michal 'hramrach' Suchanek
There was some change in packaging perl
(I think the -4mdk was before change, I have -14mdk, no logs as
urpmi was broken by the change), and this is not recorded in
dependencies of packages that use libperl or perl modules (perl-URPM, 
httpd-perl, vim, etc). The change is incompatible in both ways.

Upgrading httpd-perl and urpmi made them unusable, after perl upgrade
vim was unusable. Upgrading everything at once should be fine.
-- 
Michal Suchanek
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [Cooker] VNC and the firewall

2002-11-13 Thread Leon Brooks
On Wednesday 13 November 2002 06:14 pm, Florin wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Schonberg) writes:
>> It really would be nice if the Mandrake Control Center Firewall could
>> include a radio button for VNC.  Mandrake ships with the tight-vnc
>> client . . .

> you can use the custom options and enter the right ports by hand ... if
> you know them ...

5900 for Windows, 5901 (or more if not 1st display) for X.

Cheers; Leon





Re: [Cooker] gvim broken

2002-11-13 Thread Thierry Vignaud
Guillaume Rousse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> gvim doesn't start anymore. Here is strace output:

already fixed in 29mdk ...





[Cooker] gvim broken

2002-11-13 Thread Guillaume Rousse
gvim doesn't start anymore. Here is strace output:

[guillaume@silbermann doc]$ strace gvim

stat64("/usr/share/vim/menu.vim", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=32713, ...}) 
= 0
open("/usr/share/vim/menu.vim", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 4
stat64("/usr/share/vim/menu.vim", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=32713, ...}) 
= 0
fstat64(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=32713, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x40023000
read(4, "\" Vim support file to define the"..., 4096) = 4096
read(4, "610 &File.Sa&ve-Exit:wqa\t\t:"..., 4096) = 4096
read(4, ".\\.  :call SearchP()\nan"..., 4096) = 4096
--- SIGSEGV (Segmentation fault) ---
getrlimit(0x3, 0x81ac860)   = 0
mmap2(NULL, 2097152, PROT_NONE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS|MAP_NORESERVE, -1, 
0) = 0x407aa000
munmap(0x407aa000, 352256)  = 0
munmap(0x4090, 696320)  = 0
mmap2(0x4080, 32768, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4080
open("/usr/share/vim/lang/fr_FR/LC_MESSAGES/vim.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No 
such file or directory)
open("/usr/share/vim/lang/fr/LC_MESSAGES/vim.mo", O_RDONLY) = 5
fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=111724, ...}) = 0
mmap2(NULL, 111724, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 5, 0) = 0x407aa000
close(5)= 0
open("/usr/lib/gconv/ISO8859-1.so", O_RDONLY) = 5
read(5, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\300\6\0"..., 1024) = 
1024
fstat64(5, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=5452, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 4368, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 5, 0) = 0x4078f000
mprotect(0x4079, 272, PROT_NONE)= 0
old_mmap(0x4079, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 5, 
0x1000) = 0x4079
close(5)= 0
mmap2(0x40808000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40808000
mmap2(0x40809000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x40809000
mmap2(0x4080a000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, 
MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x4080a000
rt_sigprocmask(SIG_SETMASK, NULL, [SEGV RTMIN], 8) = 0

[guillaume@silbermann doc]$ rpm -qa | grep vim
vim-enhanced-6.1-28mdk
vim-X11-6.1-28mdk
vim-common-6.1-28mdk

[guillaume@silbermann doc]$ rpm -qa | grep gtk+
libgtk+mdk0.1_6-0.1.6-13mdk
libgtk+1.2-1.2.10-29mdk
gtk+mdk-0.1.6-13mdk
libgtk+-x11-2.0_0-2.0.8-1mdk
libgtk+1.2-devel-1.2.10-29mdk
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Re: [Cooker] VNC and the firewall

2002-11-13 Thread Florin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (J Schonberg) writes:

> It really would be nice if the Mandrake Control Center Firewall could
> include a radio button for VNC.  Mandrake ships with the tight-vnc
> client . . .

you can use the custom options and enter the right ports by hand ... if
you know them ...

cheers,
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Re: [Cooker] Fw: Re: ohphone/openh323 in 9.0

2002-11-13 Thread Florin
Hi there,

ohphone does not compile on cooker (and even 9.0, I think) ... I have to
rebuild it again ...  

cheers,

>[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pierre Fortin) writes:

> Can anyone decypher Gwenole's response for me...??  
> 
> I feel like I was accused of doing some bad gcc 2.96 and 3.2 weirdness... 
> 
> 
> This is a NEW laptop, on which I installed LM8.2, ran it for a few days,
> then upgraded with 9.0, after which I did:
> rpm -ivh cd2/Mandrake/RPMS2/openh323_1-1.9.3-2mdk.i586.rpm
> rpm -ivh cd3/Mandrake/RPMS3/ohphone-1.2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
> 
> and ohphone won't start...  somehow, I'm convinced that the above should
> not result in mixed "gcc2.96 and gcc3.2 compiled binaries/libraries" since
> I did not compile anything...  besides, I wouldn't even know how to detect
> the difference between libs from one gcc or the other...
> 
> If LM9.0 upgrade failed to upgrade all the libs, how can I find which ones
> are still gcc 2.96 based -- assUming ohphone/openh323 were distributed
> from gcc3.2...?
> 
> Thanks,
> Pierre
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2002 12:37:34 -0500
> From: Pierre Fortin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Gwenole Beauchesne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: ohphone/openh323 in 9.0
> 
> 
> On Tue, 12 Nov 2002 18:36:17 +0100 (CET) Gwenole Beauchesne
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, 12 Nov 2002, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > 
> > > $ ohphone
> > > ohphone: relocation error: ohphone: undefined symbol: __ti7PThread
> > 
> > That's "PThread type_info node". You are probably mixing gcc2.96 and
> > gcc3.2 compiled binaries/libraries. Please clean up.
> > 
> > Bye,
> > Gwenole.
> 
> This is a newly acquired IBM ThinkPad on which I have installed LM8.2 for
> a few days until I got the 9.0 CDs burned and then upgraded 82->9.0 using
> the new option.  I have not done anything special, other than manually
> installing openh323/ohphone since the install/upgrade no longer lists
> these (since 8.1 IIRC).
> 
> Are you implying that there may be special procedures required to go
> between 8.2 & 9.0...?  That's all I can figure from your answer since it's
> all Mdk install/upgrade that got me here...
> 
> Thanks,
> Pierre
> 

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[Cooker] draksound won't load a new driver for a second soundcard - ML9.0

2002-11-13 Thread Andreas Weiss
as i couldn't turn off my broken onboard soundchip in BIOS i had to add 
a new second soundcard. harddrake recognised it at once with the right 
driver, but sounddrake didn't show me the new sounddriver for 
configuration. so i had to add it by hand in the /etc/modules.conf like:
...
alias sound-slot-0 snd-emu10k1
above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
...

and only after that draksound presented me the drivers for both 
soundcards for configuration.

regards,
andreas




Re: [Cooker] bad packages

2002-11-13 Thread Vox

This time Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> This time [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) 
> becomes daring and writes:
>
>> Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>>
>>>   The versions mentioned as already installed are the ones
>>>   installed. The thing that surprised the hell out of me is that the
>>>   versions mentioned as already installed are *not* the versions that
>>>   the new packages have. That makes no sense at all.
>>
>> Does rpm work the same or only urpmi has problem (if it is a problem of urpmi?)?
>>
>> I don't see anything else wrong, once the error reappears, check with rpm on the
>> file in the cache directly.
>
>
> [root@isis rpms]# rpm -Uvh gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
> Preparing...### [100%]
> package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
> [root@isis rpms]# 
>
>   I'm starting to think it's the mirroring...been having some trouble
>   with my link lately, and maybe the rsync got
>   interrupted...uhm...worth investingating...I'll get back to you
>   'morrow after getting some sleep :)

Ok, the problem was corrupted mirror on my part  Sorry for
the false alarm...I'll check that next time before I complain
about a problem.

Vox

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[Cooker] rpmdrake won't work on exported X display's

2002-11-13 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
[hawkeye@mainframe hawkeye]$ sudo rpmdrake
This program cannot be run in console mode.

or when just launching 'rpmdrake' the gtk dialog which asks for root 
password shows up, then it'll bitch again when typed the password...
it worked just fine moments ago with the old 8.2 rpmdrake

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Delonic Technology Group AS
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Re: [Cooker] ALSA and kernel src.rpm...

2002-11-13 Thread Alexandru Onea
Has anyone tried to do this integration labour for alsa-driver-0.9.0rc5?
I tried like Thierry said, but I obtain plenty of errors in "make
modules" stage.

On Tue, 2002-11-12 at 13:24, Thierry Vignaud wrote:
Alexandru Onea <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The actual src.rpm of the kernel contains alsa-driver-0.9.0rc3 and I
> want to integrate alsa-driver-0.9.0rc5. Could you tell me, please,
> how can I do this?

just update the alsa tarball in extracted juan tarball, redo juan
tarball and voila








Re: [Cooker] drakconf problem

2002-11-13 Thread Maxim Heijndijk
* Stardate: 2002-11-13 04:17
* Incoming subspace signal from ""francesco.melo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>" :

> when i try to start drakconf it returned this message and close
> 
> 
> Wed Nov 13 04:15:23 2002 Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) 
> pointe   r to `GtkObject' at /usr/sbin/drakconf line 850.
> Wed Nov 13 04:15:23 2002 Gtk-WARNING **: invalid cast from (NULL) 
> pointe   r to `GtkObject' at /usr/sbin/drakconf line 851.
> Can't call method "set_active" on an undefined value at 
> /usr/sbin/drakco   nf line 423.
> 
> some help?
> some tips?

http://www.mail-archive.com/cooker@;linux-mandrake.com/msg79408.html

The update does not work. The only way I can get it to work is bij doing a su -c mcc, 
or sudo mcc, or kdesu -c mcc.

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Re: [Cooker] bad packages

2002-11-13 Thread Vox

This time [EMAIL PROTECTED] (François Pons) 
becomes daring and writes:

> Vox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
>>   The versions mentioned as already installed are the ones
>>   installed. The thing that surprised the hell out of me is that the
>>   versions mentioned as already installed are *not* the versions that
>>   the new packages have. That makes no sense at all.
>
> Does rpm work the same or only urpmi has problem (if it is a problem of urpmi?)?
>
> I don't see anything else wrong, once the error reappears, check with rpm on the
> file in the cache directly.


[root@isis rpms]# rpm -Uvh gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.21.0-1mdk.i586.rpm 
Preparing...### [100%]
package gdk-pixbuf-loaders-0.18.0-3mdk is already installed
[root@isis rpms]# 

  I'm starting to think it's the mirroring...been having some trouble
  with my link lately, and maybe the rsync got
  interrupted...uhm...worth investingating...I'll get back to you
  'morrow after getting some sleep :)

  Vox

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