Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: When??

2003-03-22 Thread Warly
Greg Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 On Friday 21 March 2003 09:13 am, Brian J. Murrell wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 08:21:48AM -0500, Greg Meyer wrote:
  Maybe there is finally going to be some sanity and the delay of the
  release until the boxes are ready.

 Fair enough.  But if that is the case, they could at least be up front
 with their development partners (read: us) and say so.  Of course,
 they might have already here on Cooker.  I'm afraid at 800 messages a
 day, the volume is _way_ too high for me to read every message.  I can
 only skim, but have not seen any explanation as to when the isos will
 be available.

 Or at least say that they cannot or will not make an announcement at this 
 time, and that more info will be provided in the near future.  Then again, 
 they all could be asleep until Monday.

AFAIK it is in the hand of the marcom dep now and should be OK for next
week.

-- 
Warly



Re: [Cooker] Re: Re: When??

2003-03-22 Thread Francisco Alcaraz Ariza
Warkly

I am according with Greg, at least a message about what the problems are and 
the date of isos avalaiblity ought to be done as a deference to the mandrake 
users.

Also if there are problems, preorder offers to members club shouldn't have be 
done immediately!. I preordered one but now I am wondering if the release 
will see the light anytime :-(

Moreover, I ordered the mandrake guide book on february 28th and still it 
hasn't arrived to me. It seems the delivery of mandrake products is still 
working as it was before: awfull. Haven't you changed the delivery 
department?

I think those things are damaging seriously Mandrake, specially the silence, 
and some potential users could be reluctant to use it. 





 AFAIK it is in the hand of the marcom dep now and should be OK for next
 week.

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Universidad de Murcia
E-30100 Murcia
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[Cooker] Overall Impression Mandrake 9.1 RC2/Cooker

2003-03-22 Thread lavaeolus
Hello,

sorry I don't know if this is the right place to send my mail to, so
please excuse me if it was the wrong place.

I just recently installed Mandrake 9.1 RC2 on two of my machines and the
overall impression is really fantastic ! (I know what Terry
Pratchett says about multiple exclamation marks and sanity ;-))

One Machine is a HP Omnibook 6100 with P III M @ 1133 MHz, 256 MB RAM,
30 GB HDD, DVD, Ati Radeon Mobility M6 w/ 16 MB; this was some
cutting-edge hardware back in the time when I bought it, now its only
old, but still running incredibly fast (punches its way through an
average seti-package in about 6 to 7 hours). This Machine was upgraded
to recent Cooker yesterday (urpmi is great !!! :-)).

The other Machine is a fairly typical box, nailed together from pieces
lying around by my ugly self, consisting of a mobo with via appollo
chipset, ati rage 128 w/ 16 MB, PIII 550 (Katmai), 384 MB RAM, DVD, 4,3
GB HDD (system) on the onboard-IDE and 80 GB HDD (data) connected
through a Promise 100 TX PCI-IDE-Controller, and a Soundblaster 64 
ISA-Soundcard.

I have used Mandrake since 8.1 and so far 9.1 is the best
Mandrake-Release I have seen so far.

But now to the good and (some) not so good things about 9.1 RC2:

Omnibook 6100:

ACPI: seems to work, although there is no /proc/acpi my Battery-Applets
work right, they show me if the Machine is plugged in or not, how uch
capacity is left and so on (APM is disabled !; btw this machine is pure
ACPI, no APM anymore which was really ugly with 8.2 and 9.0); the
CPU-FAN rarely spins up, only when im unpacking my GB-big
wallpaper-archive or my reprogrammed seti-client is searching for
intelligent life in Texas ;-) (you won't overhear this fan, seems it is
a small brother of the big air vent at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory,
maybe the tech who constructed this crazy heat-pipe cooling mechanism on
the OB 6100 went to nvidia and designed some part of the FX ??? :-)),
the machine itself doesn't get very hot, only on the underside, but this
is where the graphic-core lies. Suspend-mode works great, I can put the
OB to sleep by hitting the blue suspend-button above the keyboard, and
wake it back up.

Hardware 3D-Acceleration works only up to 1152 x 864 resolution (my OB
6100 has 1400 x 1050), but this seems to be a general XFree-prob,
because I experienced this under Red Hat 8.0, too.

The screen-resolution cannot be changed in the Mandrake control-center,
on RC2 I could change it at least by using XFDrake, but in cooker it
won't do anything, normally I don't change resolution on my OB, because
lower resolution on a 1400 x 1050 Flat-Panel look really ugly, but I
would like to change my resolution sometimes for playing TuxRacer, which
needs Hardware-3D, but that does only work up to 1152 x 864 as mentioned
earlier, on 9.0 resolution-changing worked fine.

I have some problems with Galeon/Mozilla, after I started Galeon as root
(I know I shouldn't work as root) Mozilla is broken (Menus don't work
anymore), after reinstalling Mozilla everything is fine. I have this
problem  with Galeon/Mozilla since I upgraded to Moz 1.1 on Mdk 8.2, but
since I never wrote a bug-report about it, I cannot blame anyone for it;
btw this is not a big problem, because I rarely work as root, it is more
of a minor nuisance, for the normal user Galeon and Mozilla work fine,
even if used in parallel.

One big complain: the NFS-Server-Wizard is missing in the Control Center
in the actual cooker version, please bring it back, not that I could
live without it, but i am a lazy guy and this is a comfortable little
helper, maybe you could design it like the NFS-wizard in RH 8.0 or in
Netconf, which allows to administer more than one shares at the same
time, on the other hand there is something positive to mention, the
NFS-mount utility in MCC works now, on 9.1 RC2 it bailed out with an
error message.

RP PPPOE works good, although the PPPOE is somewhat unstable at times,
on some occasions I lose my connection and have to restart the network
service to get back online again.

Installation of 9.1 RC2 went smooth, the new installer looks very good,
although I miss a feature of the older versions: the ability to jump
back to an earlier point, please bring that back, because otherwise the
new installer is nearly perfect.

Firewire seems to work on my OB, I plug in my PCMCIA-Firewire-card and
the modules get loaded, but since I don,t have a Firewire-Harddisk
anymore I cannot verify this. Back in 8.2 (didn't really test it under
9.0) I had massive probs with firewire on my OB 6100, although on my
older XE3 it worked perfectly, but as the modules are loading now (they
didn't load under 8.2 on the OB 6100 because of some IRQ-prob), so I
think there is no problem anymore. Maybe there could be a possibility
for TCP/IP over Firewire on Linux (works great under WinXP, but as I
want to get rid of Microsoft, I would apreciate this working under
Linux) ?? If I've overseen it and TCP/IP over Firewire works under

Re: [Cooker] mmx and such

2003-03-22 Thread Giuseppe Ghibò
andre wrote:
On Friday 21 March 2003 15:18, Guy.Bormann wrote:

[snip]


It's not a matter of complaining or not, it's a matter of minimal
support. Mandrake Linux is supposed to run on any i586 or newer
processor. Period.
Even if that means a crazy person is encoding videos on a i586(no MMX),
say, 166MHz (or somewhere near) without hardware acceleration Must be
surely someone with paaaiinnnccce!
Guy
Has a VIA C3 mmx support because 966Mhz doesn't sound slow to me

VIA C3 AFAIK supports both MMX and 3DNOW:

	http://www.via.com.tw/jsp/en/products/C3/VIAC31.pdf

Bye.
Giuseppe.




[Cooker] ISO Images [was: Re: When??]

2003-03-22 Thread Thomas Backlund
Viestissä Lauantai 22. Maaliskuuta 2003 09:34, Duncan kirjoitti:
 On Fri 21 Mar 2003 05:56, Brian J. Murrell posted as excerpted below:
  On Fri, Mar 21, 2003 at 02:42:33PM +1200, Jason Greenwood wrote:
   Will 9.1 Final ISO's hit the mirrors??
 
  I would like to know this too.
 
  Just what are we waiting for?  I don't recall any of this kind of wait
  with past releases.  ISO's came on the heels of the mandrake_release
  RPM finally being updated.

 This is just speculation on my part, but I'm guessing the lack of ISOs has
 to do with the kernel problem folks have mentioned here repeatedly.


IMHO, they are just timing the ISO release to happend at the same time
as the official anouncement for once...

  It seems a security vuln and kernel patch was released at the last minute,
 to late for the normal process of verification and  inclusion on the
 release ISOs.  Never-the-less, the patch was added, and the corrected
 Kernel packages created and delivered.


The patch was small, it did not break anything, and it wasn't last minute,
since it was known in good time before the official security vuln 
announcement...

 The problem appears to be that in the confusion of doing this at the last
 minute, without the normal verification and etc. someone made a mistake,
 and reused a previous kernel release number for the new kernel RPMs.

IMHO it wasn't a mistake, the name was kept to not break the official
ISO build scripts...

 Unfortunately, this means the various automated tools don't see the new
 kernel as a change from the previous one, and don't pick up that RPM.  At
 the same time, the official list along with sizes and probably the MD5
 checksums include and are based on the new kernel version, that the
 automated tools don't pick up, because it looks to them the same as an old
 one.  Thus, there are all sorts of errors.


So do a manual rsync on the cooker tree...
It will pick up the change

 That brings us to the human side.  My guess is that in the work-up to the
 release, days off and other such things were skipped, and as soon as it was
 out the door, pretty much everyone left for the weekend, to catch up on the
 days off and such.  It's also possible that a number of folks were leaving
 Mdk to be effective at 9.1 release, due to the continual streamlining due
 to the financial problems.  These folks will now have cleared out their
 desk and be gone permanently.

 Anyway, the problem is likely that the automated tools can't fix the
 problem as outlined above, and anybody that can do anything about it took
 off until next week.  Likewise, anyone in a position to make an official
 comment on it is off for the weekend, as it was supposed to be all out and
 all good, by now.


Now this is way off ...

IIRC Warly (or another MDK employee) posted a message after 9.0 release how 
the official ISOs gets delivered ...

They don't get posted on the mirrors after a automated iso build,
instead they get built under strict control by Warly, then they get 
distributed among the MDK employees that test the final ISOs, 
and if they are all happy, the ISOs will be posted on the MDK master
server where the primary mirrors can pick them up, and after that
all other mirrors that rsyncs of the primary mirrors...

Of course I don't speak for MandrakeSoft, just for myself...

Thomas



Re: [Cooker] Here's why no Radeon 9500 support in 9.1

2003-03-22 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 21 March 2003 12:01 am, Jan Ciger wrote:
 It is a free software, but having ten
 incompatible versions of XFree or ten versions with ten different fatal
 bugs is not a nice outlook

XFree86 and XFreer86?

As I understand it, the pace (or lack of it) of incorporation of existing 
patches is the main problem, so a fork would be less likely to contain said 
fatal bugs, and a mroe responsive X server would result in NVidia submiting 
more bugs in the first place.

Also, `ten forks' is not a fair representation. All that's been discussed 
AFAICT is a single fork. Maybe XFork? XCutlery (forked, and sharper than 
before? :-)

If they do fork, I most fervently hope that the fork has a different name, 
(even if it is only `XLibre' or something like that) to avoid confusion. 
Dropping the `86' would be good for both original and any fork, since it runs 
on a lot more than x86 architecture and has done for a very long time.

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] dosbox-0.57-2mdk

2003-03-22 Thread Leon Brooks
On Friday 21 March 2003 03:04 am, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
 you forget to check the architecture.
 and, dosbox need libcurses5 to work, and to be compiled.
 the configure doesn't check, but, on the rpm I wanted to submit ( but you
 were faster ) , I wasn't able to compile it without. Here is the relevant
 portion.

Author told me `wait for next version' (less than a month) as much of the 
unix-like-filesystem code was semi-broken in 0.57.

Cheers; Leon




[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] kpopup-0.9.5-0.pre2.1mdk

2003-03-22 Thread Rémi Denis-Courmont
Le Mercredi 19 Mars 2003 17:32, Buchan Milne a écrit :
 I made a package of this a while back, but did not upload it since I
 thought it was too buggy to use. It works fine sending, but I haven't
 got it receiving well (not nearly as well as LinPopUp). I mailed the
 author with some feeback on the issues, but received no reply, so
 wrote it off.

I fixed a security bugs and mailed the whole thing to him. While he 
actually replied, I haven't heard of a new version until then.

 Have you actually tested receiving with this? Does it work well? I
 had it popping up, but not displaying the message, I think cause by
 it setting bad perms on the messages.

It works.

 Also, it popped up full-screen, which is annoying.

That's not fixed yet. I've submitted a patch to the author. Thanks.

 Also, does it remove the message files (usually in /var/tmp)? If not,
 you will want to have the 'message command' clean it up for you.

It does.

 Regards,
 Buchan

Sincerely,

-- 
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[Cooker] [OT] More on XFork86

2003-03-22 Thread Leon Brooks
Link from here...

http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/03/21/2225212

...to here...

http://www.osnews.com/story.php?news_id=3090

Cheers; Leon




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] dosbox-0.57-2mdk

2003-03-22 Thread Michael Scherer
Entête en cours de reécriture, merci de patienter en lisant la réponse au mail 
de Leon Brooks, à Samedi 22 Mars 2003 12:51
 On Friday 21 March 2003 03:04 am, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
  you forget to check the architecture.
  and, dosbox need libcurses5 to work, and to be compiled.
  the configure doesn't check, but, on the rpm I wanted to submit ( but
  you were faster ) , I wasn't able to compile it without. Here is the
  relevant portion.

 Author told me `wait for next version' (less than a month) as much of the
 unix-like-filesystem code was semi-broken in 0.57.

Did you intend too to package dosbox ?
Or i didn't understand ?


-- 

Michaël Scherer




[Cooker] [Bug 3493] [Installation] New: FATAL ERROR during network-installation

2003-03-22 Thread udo
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3493

   Product: Installation
 Component: Installation
   Summary: FATAL ERROR during network-installation
   Version: 1.809
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: blocker
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I just tried to install a computer from the current cooker sources using the
network.img on a floppy.

Installation went fine until package selection. After a couple of minutes of
installation I got a FATAL ERROR indicating that
/mnt/tmp/13-mdkexpert_corporate.png was missing. The only choice I had was to
click OK, which led me back to the package selection screen again.

A workaround for this is to switch to console after the package installation has
started and copy one of the existing .pngs to the missing one.



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[Cooker] [Bug 3488] [kernel] acpi in presario 700

2003-03-22 Thread neutrolio
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3488





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Thank you for your help.

I've seen your page and in some part you make a mention to kacpi, like you 
say in your page kacpi isn't need to acpi work, but it is useful if you 
want to detect acpi interrupts (like pressing «power button», «critical 
battery», and a few more.

Modem - try to use one of the drivers present at 
http://www.mbsi.ca/cnxtlindrv/
it works on my witch has the same descrition has yours.

Bye.



On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 20:16:28 -0500 (EST), snoyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mandrake.com wrote:




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acpi doesn't work. If I remove acpi=off OR I put acpi = on on lilo.conf the 
computer just after booting. Loading linux. BeOS 




I've tried to recompile the kernel but it doesn't work.


The path should be /proc/acpi, but it is only /proc.


The directories created in /proc, that is ac_adapter, battery, button, and 
so on are empty.




Sugestion: use acpi drivers from sf.net/projects/acpi - they work just fine.




The only way of use acpi in my laptop is getting the original kernel source, the 
apply the acpi patch in at http://sf.net/projects/acpi.


Because of that I've to spend much time  I loose supermount from Mandrake.




The procedure above works on every laptops whose persons I've helped to install 
linux (laptops with acpi)




Good luck!



[Cooker] [Bug 3324] [XFree86] laptop acpi/XFree interaction

2003-03-22 Thread fillide
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3324





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I just notice that the problem don't happen when booting on linux-nonfb.
I can switch from LCD/CRT during X sessions.
With linux, as X is started, I can't switch. I try differents kernel with same
problem.

I try XFree86-server-4.3-6.1mdk.i586.rpm from
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2741 but this doesn't fix the bug.



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Configuration: Toshiba 5205-S703 laptop, NVIDIA GeoForce 4 Go card

I am not sure if this is a kernel, XFree or what problem.  But here it
is.

If I turn on the crt_out after loading the toshiba_acpi module, and I am
not running X, everythign works OK -- I get output both to my laptop screen and 
to the crt (which is what you want when giving a presentation at
a podium).  As long as I am at console level, I'm OK.

If I type startx however, the lcd screen turns white and streaky while the 
windowing system displays fine on the crt.  Thus, I can display windows on my 
lcd *or* on the crt, but not both.

In addition, I cannot modify /proc/acpi/toshiba/video while windows is 
running.  I have to get out of X, go back to console, change it there, and then 
get back into windows.



[Cooker] [Bug 3490] [drakxtools] Can't eject cdrom wrong user permissions

2003-03-22 Thread john_goodman53
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3490





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Yes it seems that accessing a cd works in both my drives and I can eject after but if 
I use k3b 
things then get wierd. It won't let me look at files on my dvd drive so I can't copy 
on the fly it just 
says that it can't mount the drive. Also although I ran setup I didn't know if I 
should let it write to 
my fstab (could that mess up supermount) and it still thinks my 48x writer is 4x. 
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I have found that using cdroms when I insert them and use them sometimes I cannot 
eject until I 
reboot. This is ridiculous. KDE can have a device on the desktop it supports mount 
unmount and 
eject and yet the icons that are there in mandrake have the permissions wrong. I have 
everything 
upto date off the cooker. I think the problem is that users don't have the right 
permissions for 
these devices. In my experience this has always been this problem with mandrake 
releases. 
Strangely sometimes just pressing the button on the drive works. I know this isn't a 
problem with 
the drives as they work in Gentoo and WinXP perfectly. 
 
John



[Cooker] [Bug 3483] [xine-ui] xine skins faillure

2003-03-22 Thread waschk
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3483





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Yes, some of the skins are old versions. CelomaChrome, cloudy and xinetic are
OK. I'll fix the rest.



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The xine skins are presents in the package but we can't load them.



[Cooker] [Bug 393] [glibc] libpthread is stripped, preventing debugging of threaded apps

2003-03-22 Thread gbeauchesne
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=393

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I placed temporary packages until more testing is done at:
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gbeauchesne/9.0/glibc/

Please try it out. Thanks.



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gdb (and other debuggers) need to find symbols in libpthread in order to debug  
threaded applications.   /lib/libpthread.so.0 as provided by the glibc rpm has  
no symbols.  
 
i can supply a trivial test case, if desired.



Re: [Cooker] Last cooker cds: anyone capable of creating cds?

2003-03-22 Thread Thomas Green
Quoting Francisco Alcaraz Ariza [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 I have downloaded the cooker from two mirrors and in both cases I had several
 
 errors with packages rejeted from the First cd.
 
 Later, trying to install it I have errors about the installation of the 
 kernel...rpm. The file was included into the cd 1 and seemed not to be 
 damaged.
 
 Does anyone been capable of installing it?
 how?

I downloaded cooker a couple of days ago (the 18th)

I was able to install it and there was nothing special I needed to do.  I had 
the same errors and the program made 4 cds (left it making cds with the default 
options).  Maybe its hardware related, could try copying the file to another 
system and converting it using rpm2cpio to see if the file is 100% ok.

Sorry I cant be much use.

Tom



[Cooker] [Bug 3050] [XFree86] Can't switch off screen (ATI Radeon Mobility 9000)

2003-03-22 Thread zumbi2
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3050





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I've just upgraded to Xfree86-4.3-5mdk.
I still face this issue.

Cheers,

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Hello,

I'm using 9.1 RC2.
My laptop contains an ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 graphics card.

This card is supposed to be supported with Xfree86 4.3.0, but
I can't manage to switch the screen off:

- either through KDE `Power Control - Display Power Control' settings
- or through the below command:
  'xset -display :0 dpms force off'

In both cases, the screen gets black, but not switched off
(backlighting is still on).

This used to work fine on MDK 9.0 on another laptop with an older
Radeon card (ATI Radeon Mobility M6). Unfortunately, I can't test
9.1 RC2 on that laptop.

Hoping this helps.

Cheers,

Michael.



[Cooker] [Bug 3494] [drakxtools] New: Eurokey not supported

2003-03-22 Thread john_goodman53
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3494

   Product: drakxtools
 Component: libsasl2-plug-ntlm
   Summary: Eurokey not supported
   Version: 9.1-26mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: minor
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I have a ps2 keyboard with a euro key and pressing it does nothing in kword. In the 
location bar 
of konqueror I get '0128'. Don't know if it can be made to work but it would be nice. 
I put minor 
severity because I live in the UK but I guess to others it could be important. 
 
John



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[Cooker] [Bug 3495] [kdebase] New: The font selector of KDE do not change font size of some fonts.

2003-03-22 Thread krj
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3495

   Product: kdebase
 Component: kdebase
   Summary: The font selector of KDE do not change font size of some
fonts.
   Version: 3.1-83mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
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ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


The font selector of KDE do not change font size of some fonts, for example the
clean font type, if I change the font size on the selector.



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[Cooker] [Bug 3497] [drakconf] New: SBLive no midi I/O setup and missing Midi devices

2003-03-22 Thread john_goodman53
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3497

   Product: drakconf
 Component: drakconf
   Summary: SBLive no midi I/O setup and missing Midi devices
   Version: 9.1-11mdk
  Platform: Other
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


No midi seems to be set up for my sblive. I can't find sound config in MCC so I don't 
know what to do. I'm using a totally upto date cooker from 22 March. 
 
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Re: [Cooker] mmx and such

2003-03-22 Thread Danny Tholen
On Friday 21 March 2003 18:26, Oden Eriksson wrote:
 
  If this bug hasn't been fixed yet, Pentium compatiblity doesn't seem
  to be that important for Mandrake :-)

 Exactly. And my point is that Mandrake cannot state i586 compability.

runs fine here on a k6-2, which is definately not i686
d.




Re: [Cooker] mmx and such

2003-03-22 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-21 at 14:57, rowland wrote:
 On Friday 21 Mar 2003 10:18 pm, Pierre Jarillon wrote:
  Le Vendredi 21 Mars 2003 18:20, Per Øyvind Karlsen a écrit :
   does this bug applies to other than via c3's? I thought this bug only
   existed in 9.0 due to the kernel detecting via c3 as an i686..?
 
  Look at : http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/errata.php3#viac3
  This bug was reported just after the 9.0 release.
 are you telling me this bug, for bug it is, is still there in 9.1. Mandrake is 
 supposed to be an i586 compatible OS, so it should be a selectable option to 
 load the i686 directory, not load it as standard.

Actually this bug is a bug in the arch of the cpu it reports itself as
an i686 even though it's i586  this is a bug in the hardware not
necessarily in the kernel.

 
 rowland penny 
 




[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hackabiword-1.1.3.1-1mdk

2003-03-22 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:00:59 +0100 (CET)
Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Name: hackabiword  Relocations: (not
 relocateable) Version : 1.1.3.1   Vendor:
 MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk  Build Date:
 Fri Mar 21 00:33:01 2003 Install date: (not installed)  
 Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group   : Office   
 Source RPM: (none)
 Size: 10829782 License: GPL
 Packager: Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED]

%package plugin-xhtml
Summary:Plugin to enable import of arbitrary HTML and XHTML documents.
Group:  Office
Requires:   libxml2 hackabiword
^^^
BuildRequires:  libxml2-devel
Provides:   abiword-plugin-html
^^^
Obsoletes:  abiword-plugin-html
^^^

The above lines for Provides/Obsoletes need to be changed to
hackabiword, as it causes urpmi to install
hackabiword-plugin-xhtml-1.1.3.1-1mdk and hackabiword-1.1.3.1-1mdk if
Any version of abiword-plugin-html is found.
In my case abiword-plugin-html-1.0.4-5mdk 


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Re: [Cooker] mmx and such

2003-03-22 Thread rowland
On Saturday 22 Mar 2003 7:29 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:

 Actually this bug is a bug in the arch of the cpu it reports itself as
 an i686 even though it's i586  this is a bug in the hardware not
 necessarily in the kernel.
ok there is a bug in C3 cpu, but this would not be a problem if an OS that 
claimed to be for an i586 cpu did not have that directory /lib/i686. If the 
directory had not been there in the first place, mandrake 9.0 would not have 
been tried on epia based pc's by newbies and then rejected/badmouthed as 
useless because it will not load without jumping through hoops!
This gives linux a bad name it does not need or deserve.
rowland penny



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] hackabiword-1.1.3.1-1mdk

2003-03-22 Thread Marcel Pol
On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 15:36:59 -0500
Charles A Edwards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 01:00:59 +0100 (CET)
 Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Name: hackabiword  Relocations: (not
  relocateable) Version : 1.1.3.1   Vendor:
  MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk  Build Date:
  Fri Mar 21 00:33:01 2003 Install date: (not installed)  
  Build Host: klama.mandrake.org Group   : Office   
  Source RPM: (none)
  Size: 10829782 License: GPL
  Packager: Marcel Pol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 %package plugin-xhtml
 Summary:  Plugin to enable import of arbitrary HTML and XHTML documents.
 Group:Office
 Requires: libxml2 hackabiword
 ^^^
 BuildRequires:libxml2-devel
 Provides: abiword-plugin-html
 ^^^
 Obsoletes:abiword-plugin-html
 ^^^
 
 The above lines for Provides/Obsoletes need to be changed to
 hackabiword, as it causes urpmi to install
 hackabiword-plugin-xhtml-1.1.3.1-1mdk and hackabiword-1.1.3.1-1mdk if
 Any version of abiword-plugin-html is found.
 In my case abiword-plugin-html-1.0.4-5mdk 

Yes, of course.
Sorry for that.


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[Cooker] [Bug 3498] [drakconf] New: can't mount smb shares

2003-03-22 Thread john-mark
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3498

   Product: drakconf
 Component: drakconf
   Summary: can't mount smb shares
   Version: 9.1-11mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


On RC1 I was able to see and mount the share on my windwows xp pro box. I am no
longer able to see or mount that drive.



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Re: [Cooker] ISO Images [was: Re: When??]

2003-03-22 Thread Duncan
On Sat 22 Mar 2003 03:19, Thomas Backlund posted as excerpted below:
 Now this is way off ...

 IIRC Warly (or another MDK employee) posted a message after 9.0 release how
 the official ISOs gets delivered ...

 They don't get posted on the mirrors after a automated iso build,
 instead they get built under strict control by Warly, then they get
 distributed among the MDK employees that test the final ISOs,
 and if they are all happy, the ISOs will be posted on the MDK master
 server where the primary mirrors can pick them up, and after that
 all other mirrors that rsyncs of the primary mirrors...

Cool.  I guess they are testing them now, then?  Maybe something came up and 
they are NOT all happy with them?

Thanks for the info!  All I had was speculation, b4.

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Re: [Cooker] ISO Images [was: Re: When??]

2003-03-22 Thread Sir Pingus
 On Sat 22 Mar 2003 03:19, Thomas Backlund posted as excerpted below:
  Now this is way off ...
 
  IIRC Warly (or another MDK employee) posted a message after 9.0 release how
  the official ISOs gets delivered ...
 
  They don't get posted on the mirrors after a automated iso build,
  instead they get built under strict control by Warly, then they get
  distributed among the MDK employees that test the final ISOs,
  and if they are all happy, the ISOs will be posted on the MDK master
  server where the primary mirrors can pick them up, and after that
  all other mirrors that rsyncs of the primary mirrors...
 
 Cool.  I guess they are testing them now, then?  Maybe something came up and 
 they are NOT all happy with them?

you know, in France we do not work on saturday and sunday. So don't believe that any
iso appear on mirror this week end.

bye Pingus ;-)

 
 Thanks for the info!  All I had was speculation, b4.
 
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[Cooker] some test to do

2003-03-22 Thread Michael Scherer

I have just posted a bug report  for fenris.

I have send the spec file 5 month ago, and lenny rebuilded it.
But, since nobody ever tried it, i was unable to see the bug ( It worked fine 
on my computer, of course :(  until I reinstalled it today )

don't you think we should have a way to see if a package has been used ?
some checks that somebody tested the application ?

by the way, can someone try, confirm the bug and vote for it.
just do 'urpmi fenris'

-- 

Michaël Scherer




Re: [Cooker] mmx and such

2003-03-22 Thread Levi Ramsey
On Sat Mar 22 20:59 +, rowland wrote:
 ok there is a bug in C3 cpu, but this would not be a problem if an OS that 
 claimed to be for an i586 cpu did not have that directory /lib/i686.

And the bug would also not occur if Mandrake dropped Linux and shipped
MandrakeFreeDOS.  The root cause of the problem is buggy hardware.
Period.  End of story.

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[Cooker] [Bug 3499] [suspend-scripts] New: Problem with pmsuspend when using a usbmouse

2003-03-22 Thread neutrolio
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3499

   Product: suspend-scripts
 Component: libsasl2-plug-ntlm
   Summary: Problem with pmsuspend when using a usbmouse
   Version: 1.4-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: normal
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I've noticed a problem when I tried to suspend the system using omsuspend.
I have to make it twice since in the first time it outputs a message mentionig the 
usb.c file (not much more)
If I run it again it works well. When I restart everting works except the sound.

I' ve tried to change the /etc/sysconfig/suspend changing the option: USB_RESTART from 
no to yes. Now pmsuspend works at first attempt, but when restarting usb mouse 
does not works.

Good luck.

My computer:
compaq presario 710 EA
Mouse: logutech cordless mouse (usb)



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[Cooker] mkcd errors from today's cooker (23-03-2003)

2003-03-22 Thread Michael Spivak
I've just mirrored the cooker today from mandrake.redbox.cz server and
got those errors when running mkcd (mkcd  --discsize 700M --catto
mkcd.log -a
/home/cooker/mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker/)

The shadow-utils-4.0.3-4mdk.i586 has error ? it can be a problem .. no ?

ERROR check_version: shadow-utils-4.0.3-4mdk.i586 provides shadow-utils
== 4.0.3-4mdk but util-linux-2.11x-3mdk.i586 needs shadow-utils =
2902-5
ERROR check_version: bind-chroot-utils-8.3.4-2mdk.i586 provides
bind-utils == 8.3.4-2mdk but bind-9.2.2-1mdk.i586 needs bind-utils =
9.2.2-1mdk
ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but
tkinter-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk
ERROR check_version: libboost1.29-1.29.0-4mdk.i586 provides libboost1.29
== 1.29.0-4mdk but libboost1.29-devel-1.29.0-4mdk.i586 needs
libboost1.29 == 1.29.0-boost
ERROR check_version: crossfire-maps-1.4.0-2mdk.noarch provides
crossfire-maps == 1.4.0-2mdk but crossfire-1.0.0-3mdk.i586 needs
crossfire-maps == 1.0.0
ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python ==
2.2.2-6mdk but sip-3.5-1mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2
ERROR check_version: libstdc++2.10-devel-2.96-0.82mdk.i586 provides
libstdc++-devel == 2.96-0.82mdk but libicq2000-devel-0.3.2-4mdk.i586
needs libstdc++-devel = 3.1
ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but
libpython2.2-devel-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk
ERROR check_version: psi-0.8.7-3mdk.i586 provides psi == 0.8.7-3mdk but
psi-lang-pack-italian-0.8.6-2mdk.noarch needs psi == 0.8.6
ERROR check_version: psi-0.8.7-3mdk.i586 provides psi == 0.8.7-3mdk but
psi-lang-pack-japanese-0.8.5-2mdk.noarch needs psi == 0.8.5
ERROR check_version: psi-0.8.7-3mdk.i586 provides psi == 0.8.7-3mdk but
psi-lang-pack-swedish-0.8.6-2mdk.noarch needs psi == 0.8.6
ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but
python-docs-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2-6mdk
ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python ==
2.2.2-6mdk but python-utmp-0.7-1mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2
ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but
tmda-0.67-1mdk.noarch needs python == 2.2.2
ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides
xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but totem-0.95.1-2mdk.i586 needs
xine-plugins = 1
ERROR check_version: python-2.2.2-6mdk.i586 provides python == 2.2 but
xchat-python-2.0.0-1mdk.i586 needs python == 2.2.2
ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides
xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-dvdnav-1-0.beta4.1mdk.i586 needs
xine-plugins == 1-0.beta4.1mdk
ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides
xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs
xine-plugins = 1
ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides
xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-aa-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs
xine-plugins = 1
ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides
xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-ui-fb-0.9.18-1mdk.i586 needs
xine-plugins = 1
ERROR check_version: xine-lib-compat-plugins-0.9.13-11mdk.i586 provides
xine-plugins == 0.9.13-11mdk but xine-vcdx-1-0.beta4.1mdk.i586 needs
xine-plugins = 1
cleanrpmsrate
/home/cooker/mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-devel/cooker/cooker//Mandrake/base/rpmsrate 
- /home/cooker/tmp/build/Cooker/1/Mandrake/base//rpmsrate
build_list group
ERROR: empty rpmlist key (HASH(0x9c41374)) KEYS ERROR processDeps: deps
gnome2-2.2.0-1mdk.noarch rejected, rejecting gnome-telnet-2.4-4mdk.i586
ERROR processDeps: deps gnome2-2.2.0-1mdk.noarch rejected, rejecting
gnobog-0.4.3-5mdk.i586


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[Cooker] [Bug 3499] [suspend-scripts] Problem with pmsuspend when using a usbmouse

2003-03-22 Thread snoyes
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3499

[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

   What|Removed |Added

 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
 Ever Confirmed||1



--- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED]  2003-03-23 00:49 ---
I have experienced exactly the same problems that neutrolio noted above. Compaq 
Presario 732US. 



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I've noticed a problem when I tried to suspend the system using omsuspend.
I have to make it twice since in the first time it outputs a message mentionig the 
usb.c file (not much more)
If I run it again it works well. When I restart everting works except the sound.

I' ve tried to change the /etc/sysconfig/suspend changing the option: USB_RESTART from 
no to yes. Now pmsuspend works at first attempt, but when restarting usb mouse 
does not works.

Good luck.

My computer:
compaq presario 710 EA
Mouse: logutech cordless mouse (usb)



[Cooker] [Bug 1341] [kdemultimedia] kdemultimedia needlessly conflicts with TiMidity++

2003-03-22 Thread john_goodman53
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1341





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This is still a problem with a completely uptodate version of cooker as of 
March 22nd 2003 unfortunately the button to confirm is missing on the form.



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Could you please rebuild kdemultimedia to eliminate its conflict with
TiMidity++?  The conflict comes from /usr/bin/timidity and (I suspect)
a conflicts declaration in the kdemultimedia's spec file.

I had to rebuilt TiMidity++ and install it in /usr/local to avoid
the conflict, this also requires reconfiguring TiMidity++ so that
it will still look in /usr/share/timidity for the instruments it
needs from the timidity-instruments package.

Thanks much



[Cooker] [Bug 3500] [glibc] New: glibc breaks Lispworks

2003-03-22 Thread tl
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3500

   Product: glibc
 Component: glibc
   Summary: glibc breaks Lispworks
   Version: 2.3.1-10mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P1
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


I am using Mandrake 9.1 RC2.

The same bug has been observed in debian distribution and apparently it was
solved. Debian users pointed me the bug report in debian site :

http://lists.debian.org/debian-glibc/2002/debian-glibc-200212/msg00369.html

According to this bug report, the problem occured with glibc-2.3.1-6 and fixed
on 2.3.1-8 (I do not know if debian and mandrake package version numbers are the
same). 
Maybe it is enough to pack the correct version of glibc in the final 9.2
release. In the meantime if you have a more recent glibc (than 2.3.1-10mdk)
please let me know.

Thibault Langlois

PS: I am not sendind the bug report from the PC where the problem occured.



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[Cooker] [Bug 3501] [libexpat0] New: Segfaults with version 1.95.5

2003-03-22 Thread jeremy.kloth
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3501

   Product: libexpat0
 Component: libexpat0
   Summary: Segfaults with version 1.95.5
   Version: 1.95.5-1mdk
  Platform: All
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: critical
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Expat release 1.95.5 shipped with memory access violations.  The more recent 1.95.6 
has fixed 
those problems.  This becomes apparent when using Fourthought, Inc. 4Suite libraries 
(http://4suite.org).  PLEASE upgrade to the most recent release because 1.95.5 
basically 
makes Python's pyexpat library quite useless.  The only alternative for Python users 
would be 
to require installing PyXML (http://pyxml.sourceforge.net) to fix it. 
 
BTW, keep up the otherwise great work with Mandrake releases! 
 
Thanks, 
Jeremy Kloth



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[Cooker] [Bug 3492] [Installation] Mandrake Linux 9.1 RC2 hangs during install of package makedev

2003-03-22 Thread jjhowejr
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3492





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I decided to re-install MDK-9.0 on this machine.
The installation ran to completion successfully.

One note however is that the IDE connector which
became associated with devices hda  hdb under 9.1 RC2
is associated with devices hde  hdf under Mdk 9.0;
in fact 9.1 RC2 gets it right and Mdk 9.0 gets it
wrong!

What can I do to help?




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description: 
Hardware is Athlon-2100, 512 Meg ram, Gigabyte GA-7VAXP mobo.
There are 2 IDE drives attached to the primary IDE
controller, 2 CD drives attached to the secondary IDE.
There is an Adaptec 2100S RAID device set up as RAID-5
and on /dev/sda.

The installation hangs during install of package makedev;
this is observed by using the details button.

I tried rebooting off the RC2 install CD and using rescue
mode, but it was unable to mount any partitions at all
other than /boot, which seems to be empty.

Mandrake version 9.0 has run on this machine although
with partitions set up differently.

The partitions are as follows:

hda1 /boot25  MByte  ext2
hda5 /350 MByte  JFS
hda6 /proj1   28  Gbyte  JFS
hdb1 SWAP 1   Gbyte
hdb5 /var 2.9 GByte  JFS
hdb6 /proj2   24  GByte  JFS
sda1 /usr 4.8 GByte  JFS
sda5 /opt 1.9 GByte  JFS
sda6 /home9.5 GByte  JFS
sda7 /proj3   9.2 GByte  JFS



[Cooker] [Bug 3502] [Hardware] New: shut down problem

2003-03-22 Thread gcostiga
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3502

   Product: Hardware
 Component: Screen
   Summary: shut down problem
   Version: 9.1-1mdk
  Platform: PC
OS/Version: All
Status: UNCONFIRMED
  Severity: major
  Priority: P2
AssignedTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ReportedBy: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


when shutting down on both 9.0 and 9.1 when u hit the boot splash screen and 
its sending its shutdown commands it starts running a machine language program 
stuck in a loop over and over u have to manually shut the system down with the 
power button thanks again gary



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[Cooker] [Bug 1341] [kdemultimedia] kdemultimedia needlessly conflicts with TiMidity++

2003-03-22 Thread luigiwalser
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1341

[EMAIL PROTECTED] changed:

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 Status|UNCONFIRMED |NEW
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*** This bug has been confirmed by popular vote. ***



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Could you please rebuild kdemultimedia to eliminate its conflict with
TiMidity++?  The conflict comes from /usr/bin/timidity and (I suspect)
a conflicts declaration in the kdemultimedia's spec file.

I had to rebuilt TiMidity++ and install it in /usr/local to avoid
the conflict, this also requires reconfiguring TiMidity++ so that
it will still look in /usr/share/timidity for the instruments it
needs from the timidity-instruments package.

Thanks much



[Cooker] [Bug 3496] [kdebase] fonts become ugly if I disable anit-aliasing at KDE control center

2003-03-22 Thread aw280
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3496





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fonts become ugly if I disable anit-aliasing at KDE control center.



Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] dosbox-0.57-2mdk

2003-03-22 Thread Leon Brooks
On Saturday 22 March 2003 07:51 pm, Michael Scherer wrote:
 Entête en cours de reécriture, merci de patienter en lisant la réponse au
 mail de Leon Brooks, à Samedi 22 Mars 2003 12:51
 On Friday 21 March 2003 03:04 am, Per Øyvind Karlsen wrote:
 you forget to check the architecture.
 and, dosbox need libcurses5 to work, and to be compiled.
 the configure doesn't check, but, on the rpm I wanted to submit ( but
 you were faster ) , I wasn't able to compile it without. Here is the
 relevant portion.

 Author told me `wait for next version' (less than a month) as much of the
 unix-like-filesystem code was semi-broken in 0.57.

 Did you intend too to package dosbox ?

No, but I did ask the author if it was ready for prime time, and the above was 
the summary of his rapid response.

Cheers; Leon




[Cooker] 9.0 - 9.1 with urpmi - experience

2003-03-22 Thread Adam Williamson
Well, my Dad runs stable Mandrake releases on his system. He was quite
eager to get onto 9.1, so since the .ISOs are delayed we decided to
update his system using urpmi with Cooker sources. I took charge of
doing this tonight.

Overall, I can broadly say...it worked. Good marks for that :). But,
there were some gotchas along the way. First of all there was rather an
annoying problem with openSSL. When I just did an --auto-select, it
failed due to missing openssl-devel. I *think* the problem is the 0.96
(9.0) and 0.97 (9.1) packages don't work well together, and the
--auto-select was just planning on removing the 0.96 packages (or at
least the devel package) without updating to the 0.97 packages. My
workaround was to download and install the 0.97 packages manually. This
caused problems itself, though - manually removing the old packages I
had to use --nodeps, and it couldn't then install the new packages with
urpmi because both curl and wget rely on openssl. So I had to download
the new packages with ncftp and manually install them, then download the
wget package and manually install it. Further, installing the new
openssl packages required the new glibc version, which seemed to cause
problems for the 9.0 programs - I couldn't use rpm -Uvh any more, for
instance, but fortunately urpmi still worked. This is a bit of a mess
that I can see being a problem for anyone trying to update via urpmi.

Secondly, urpmi is still not quite good enough for doing a
between-versions upgrade entirely automatically, because of the problem
of adding new packages. It installed several config files which expected
the Galaxy theme packages, but of course it didn't install these, I had
to do it manually. I also manually installed the zcip and tmdns
packages, because it seems these are necessary for 9.1 machines to work
as simple network clients - if you try and set up a system with
drakconnect without these packages installed, it tries to install them
(which obviously doesn't work if you only have network sources :). If
using urpmi to update is to become a recommended path, as I believe some
people have discussed, I propose it needs some kind of way of taking
into account highly recommended new packages in the new version like
this.

Overall, though, I was very impressed - after I worked around these
niggles, it happily updated the entire distribution (over 600 packages).
I tweaked the surprisingly few config files that installed as .rpmnew,
installed the new Cooker kernel, rebooted and there was 9.1, in all its
glory! Good stuff, it's nice that this pretty much works now :).
-- 
adamw




[Cooker] OT - Anyone building/testing the 2.5 kernel?

2003-03-22 Thread Paul Misner
I'm interested in looking at the 2.5 kernel, but I'm not an experienced kernel 
hacker, and I'm having a hard time getting everything set up properly.  I 
understand from an article in the Linux Journal 
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=6740 that things may be stable 
enough for some testing by someone like those of us who do cooker testing.

The problem is getting everything set up and working.  I hear we already have 
the proper module init tools if we urpmi module-init-tools from a posting 
after the Linux Journal article by Chmouel.  I can get past the initial 
message when the 2.5.65 kernel boots, then my drive light blinks for some 
time, but nothing else ever comes up on the console.

Like I said, off topic for the cooker list, and probably showing my lack of 
knowledge.  It may be something someone here can help with though, either 
from the Mandrake crew (when might the 2.5 series appear in the cooker?), or 
from someone else.

I just figured that now (cooker frozen for 9.1, 9.2 about to start) would be a 
good time to ask.

Paul Misner



Re: [Cooker] mmx and such

2003-03-22 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 12:59, rowland wrote:
 On Saturday 22 Mar 2003 7:29 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 
  Actually this bug is a bug in the arch of the cpu it reports itself as
  an i686 even though it's i586  this is a bug in the hardware not
  necessarily in the kernel.
 ok there is a bug in C3 cpu, but this would not be a problem if an OS that 
 claimed to be for an i586 cpu did not have that directory /lib/i686. If the 
 directory had not been there in the first place, mandrake 9.0 would not have 
 been tried on epia based pc's by newbies and then rejected/badmouthed as 
 useless because it will not load without jumping through hoops!
 This gives linux a bad name it does not need or deserve.
 rowland penny

True but on the other hand without the i686 directory I wouldn't be
sending this e-mail.. I'm running on a celeron 500mhz.  RH SuSE and
Slack all know how to install the i686 optimized kernel and libs so I
work better here.  RH is i386 SuSE is i586 and Slack is well, Slack.
Having the i686 libs if fine and needed if you need the i686 kernel.. I
do.  
 




Re: [Cooker] Here's why no Radeon 9500 support in 9.1

2003-03-22 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 03:49, Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Friday 21 March 2003 12:01 am, Jan Ciger wrote:
  It is a free software, but having ten
  incompatible versions of XFree or ten versions with ten different fatal
  bugs is not a nice outlook
 
 XFree86 and XFreer86?
 
 As I understand it, the pace (or lack of it) of incorporation of existing 
 patches is the main problem, so a fork would be less likely to contain said 
 fatal bugs, and a mroe responsive X server would result in NVidia submiting 
 more bugs in the first place.
 
 Also, `ten forks' is not a fair representation. All that's been discussed 
 AFAICT is a single fork. Maybe XFork? XCutlery (forked, and sharper than 
 before? :-)
 
 If they do fork, I most fervently hope that the fork has a different name, 
 (even if it is only `XLibre' or something like that) to avoid confusion. 
 Dropping the `86' would be good for both original and any fork, since it runs 
 on a lot more than x86 architecture and has done for a very long time.
 
 Cheers; Leon
 
Place tongue in Cheek

 Dang I always thought that 86 stood for the last time they updated the
drivers.

/Remove tongue

James

 




Re: [Cooker] ISO Images [was: Re: When??]

2003-03-22 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 14:39, Sir Pingus wrote:
  On Sat 22 Mar 2003 03:19, Thomas Backlund posted as excerpted below:
   Now this is way off ...
  
   IIRC Warly (or another MDK employee) posted a message after 9.0 release how
   the official ISOs gets delivered ...
  
   They don't get posted on the mirrors after a automated iso build,
   instead they get built under strict control by Warly, then they get
   distributed among the MDK employees that test the final ISOs,
   and if they are all happy, the ISOs will be posted on the MDK master
   server where the primary mirrors can pick them up, and after that
   all other mirrors that rsyncs of the primary mirrors...
  
  Cool.  I guess they are testing them now, then?  Maybe something came up and 
  they are NOT all happy with them?
 
 you know, in France we do not work on saturday and sunday. So don't believe that any
 iso appear on mirror this week end.
 
 bye Pingus ;-)
 
  
  Thanks for the info!  All I had was speculation, b4.
  
  -- 


Personally I'm perfectly happy to wait till Warly says go.  I used to
work for a company that over road the build engineer all the time.. for
that matter this is true of all of us ... we used to work for that
company Therefore... I'll be patient.  

James





[Cooker] where is the kde-libs documentation stored?

2003-03-22 Thread Gary Greene
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Re: [Cooker] where is the kde-libs documentation stored?

2003-03-22 Thread Per Øyvind Karlsen
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On Sunday 23 March 2003 08:12, Gary Greene wrote:
 subject asks it all...
rpm -ql kdelibs?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] hawkeye]$ rpm -ql kdelibs|grep doc
/usr/share/doc/HTML
/usr/share/doc/HTML/en
/usr/share/doc/HTML/en/common
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Re: [Cooker] where is the kde-libs documentation stored?

2003-03-22 Thread Quel Qun
On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 23:12, Gary Greene wrote:
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I don't think it's anywhere, there's a defect entered about that.
You need to regenerate them from the kdelibs sources.
And don't forget to complain loudly.
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Re: [Cooker] Here's why no Radeon 9500 support in 9.1

2003-03-22 Thread Vox

This time James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
becomes daring and writes:

 On Sat, 2003-03-22 at 03:49, Leon Brooks wrote:
 On Friday 21 March 2003 12:01 am, Jan Ciger wrote:
  It is a free software, but having ten
  incompatible versions of XFree or ten versions with ten different fatal
  bugs is not a nice outlook
 
 XFree86 and XFreer86?
 
 As I understand it, the pace (or lack of it) of incorporation of existing 
 patches is the main problem, so a fork would be less likely to contain said 
 fatal bugs, and a mroe responsive X server would result in NVidia submiting 
 more bugs in the first place.
 
 Also, `ten forks' is not a fair representation. All that's been discussed 
 AFAICT is a single fork. Maybe XFork? XCutlery (forked, and sharper than 
 before? :-)
 
 If they do fork, I most fervently hope that the fork has a different name, 
 (even if it is only `XLibre' or something like that) to avoid confusion. 
 Dropping the `86' would be good for both original and any fork, since it runs 
 on a lot more than x86 architecture and has done for a very long time.
 
 Cheers; Leon
 
 Place tongue in Cheek

  Dang I always thought that 86 stood for the last time they updated the
 drivers.

  You mean it doesn't mean that? damn! :)

  Vox

-- 
Think of the Linux community as a niche economy isolated by its beliefs.  Kind
of like the Amish, except that our religion requires us to use _higher_
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MOL 0.9.68

2003-03-22 Thread Christian Walther
Stew, what sources are you using to build mol-0.9.68-3mdk.ppc.rpm (and  
-2mdk and kmods for benh-7mdk and benh-9mdk)? I'm having a problem with  
it that its author Samuel Rydh says has been fixed in the release  
0.9.68 version (keyboard behaving as if keys were still down after  
releasing them in Mac OS X, see  
http://lists.maconlinux.org/pipermail/mol-general/2003-March/ 
001368.html).

My original idea was trying to compile the release 0.9.68 myself, but I  
can't do that because I don't have the kernel headers for benh-9mdk in  
/usr/src/linux/include. I've looked at kernel-benh-2.4.20-9mdk.src.rpm,  
but it doesn't look to me as if I could easily get these headers out of  
it (Do all these patches have to be applied? The README says something  
about not placing stuff in /usr/src/linux... is that applicable? I  
don't have anything in /usr/src/linux.).

 -Christian




Re: MOL 0.9.68

2003-03-22 Thread Stew Benedict

On Sat, 22 Mar 2003, Christian Walther wrote:

 Stew, what sources are you using to build mol-0.9.68-3mdk.ppc.rpm (and  
 -2mdk and kmods for benh-7mdk and benh-9mdk)? I'm having a problem with  
 it that its author Samuel Rydh says has been fixed in the release  
 0.9.68 version (keyboard behaving as if keys were still down after  
 releasing them in Mac OS X, see  
 http://lists.maconlinux.org/pipermail/mol-general/2003-March/ 
 001368.html).
 

Saw that post.  It's the tarball Samuel announced, I think.

 My original idea was trying to compile the release 0.9.68 myself, but I  
 can't do that because I don't have the kernel headers for benh-9mdk in  
 /usr/src/linux/include. I've looked at kernel-benh-2.4.20-9mdk.src.rpm,  
 but it doesn't look to me as if I could easily get these headers out of  
 it (Do all these patches have to be applied? The README says something  
 about not placing stuff in /usr/src/linux... is that applicable? I  
 don't have anything in /usr/src/linux.).
 

If you build kernel-benh from the source rpm, and then leave the tree in
your rpm/BUILD dir, the mol-kmods-benh should build against that.  That is
how I've been doing it, since I'm not shipping kernel-benh source or
headers.  All the appropriate srpms should be on my web space.

If you do make any progress with the OS/X keyboard issue, I'd like to hear
about it.  I don't have OS/X myself to test it.

Stew Benedict

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Install parameters

2003-03-22 Thread Alex Horvath



Stew,

RC1, trying to do an FTP install. 
PowerComputing Powercentre 120, 112MB RAM, 2GB HD, onboard net.

First, I can't even get the installer to work 
properly unless I specify root=/dev/ram3

second, if I do that, I get corrupted 
video.

Third, if I put install-text before or after the 
root command, the installer won't work properly (it complains about the FS being 
read only)

Any ideas ?